WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:07.519 We choose to go to the moon and diss decay 2 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:10.880 and do the other things not because they are easy, 3 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:15.880 but because they are hard, because that goal will serve 4 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:20.719 to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, 5 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:24.039 because that challenge is one that we're willing to accept. 6 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:28.760 One we are unwilling to postpone and one we intend to. 7 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:38.240 Win, and the others do ignition sequence side six five 8 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:46.920 four three two one zero All engine running, LIFTB. We 9 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:50.039 have a liptob thirty two minutes past the hour. 10 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:52.240 Lift up and Apollo eleven. 11 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:56.479 Are plan. 12 00:00:57.320 --> 00:00:58.240 We're going to roll from the. 13 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:02.439 Given U. 14 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:06.680 The ankle A. 15 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:09.519 Landed right at twin crank quiality. 16 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:10.920 We got be on the ground. 17 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:13.400 You got a bunch of guys about turned blue. We're 18 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:14.920 breathing again. Thank the lot. 19 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:32.480 At one fall step for man. 20 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:36.000 Are you? 21 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:44.159 This is Event Horizon and I'm your host, Mark Anthony Peterson. 22 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:48.239 This is the podcast where we take a walk into 23 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:53.239 the paranormal with a splash of conspiracy. This is the 24 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.079 podcast that would be born if David Ike and the 25 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:03.920 X Files had a baby. Guys, Welcome to episode ninety 26 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:15.680 six entitled Are We Real or just In PC's non 27 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:20.960 player Characters Unplugging from the Matrix with my first cousin, 28 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:26.520 Chandre Polmiz. Yeah, it's a family affair. In this episode, 29 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:31.879 my cousin and I sit down and talk about simulation 30 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:38.680 theory in PC's the Matrix and everything in between. And 31 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:43.680 it was a fun episode to record with her, and 32 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:47.919 I think you're going to enjoy it too. All of 33 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:52.919 this started after I heard a clip that I'm going 34 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:56.800 to play for you shortly. But before I play the clip, 35 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:00.400 you know what I have to do. I got to 36 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:05.639 give you the disclaimer. I am not a religious expert, 37 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:08.520 far from and I've been thrown out of more churches 38 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:12.439 than I've been welcomed into. I'm not a physicist, theoretical 39 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:15.639 or otherwise. But I stayed at a holiday and express 40 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:17.960 and I think that gives me the right to do 41 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:21.560 a little research, apply first principles, and bring what I've 42 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:31.719 learned back here to you. Cool. So I mentioned earlier, 43 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:36.520 I was doing a little research on simulation theory and 44 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:39.840 I came across this clip. Some of you may have 45 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:44.199 heard it if you've listened to every episode of this podcast, 46 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:51.120 but doing more research, I came across it again and 47 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.439 this time, I wanted to talk about the implications with 48 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:59.400 someone else, so I reached out to my first cousin 49 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:04.159 and said, what do you think about the matrix? What 50 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:08.000 do you think about simulation theory? Are we real or 51 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:13.240 are we just n PCs? And that started the conversation 52 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:17.360 that you're going to hear today. But first, let me 53 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:18.040 play the clip. 54 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:23.959 So where has this pursuit taken you? Oh my god, 55 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.319 where have you landed? Why would you ask that? I'm 56 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:28.600 asking you that here and now? It's New York City, 57 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.160 it's Mark seven. Well, partly it's taken to these very 58 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:34.519 strange images that are behind your head right now. These 59 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:36.160 are pictures of equations. 60 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.079 I've been for the last fifteen years trying to answer 61 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:42.519 the kinds of questions that my colleagues have been raising, 62 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:44.879 and what I've come to understand is that there are 63 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:48.759 these incredible pictures that contain all the information of a 64 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.439 set of equations that are related to strength theory. And 65 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:54.120 it's even more bizarre than that, because when you then 66 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:56.680 try to understand these pictures, you find out that buried 67 00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:00.079 in them are computer codes, just like the type that 68 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.360 you find in a browser or you go surf the web, 69 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:05.920 and so I'm left with the puzzle of trying to 70 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:08.120 figure out whether I live in the matrix or not. 71 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:11.920 Right, you're blowing my mind at this moment. 72 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:15.480 So you're saying, are you saying your attempt to understand 73 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:19.480 the fundamental operations of nature leads you to a set 74 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:23.639 of equations that are indistinguishable from the equations that drive 75 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:27.160 search engines and browsers on our computers. 76 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:28.000 That is correct. 77 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:31.759 So the way I'm still like, I have to just 78 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:35.800 be silent for a minute here. So you're saying, as 79 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:44.480 you dig deeper, you find computer code writ in. 80 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:48.759 The fabric of the cosmos into the equations that we 81 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:52.519 want to use to describe the cosmos. Yes, computer code, 82 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:56.279 computer code strings of bits of ones and zeros. It's 83 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:00.480 not just sort of resembles computer code. Say it is 84 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.720 computer code. It's not even just is computer code. It's 85 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.800 a special kind of computer code that was invented by 86 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:09.879 a scientist named Claude Shannon in the nineteen forties. That's 87 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:13.399 what we find very very deeply inside the equations that 88 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.800 occur in string theory and in general and systems that 89 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:18.879 we can call say are supersymmetric. 90 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:26.040 Okay, time to go home. 91 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:27.600 I think I'm not to where are we going to go? 92 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:27.759 At? 93 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:33.240 For those of you who don't recognize the voices, of course, 94 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:37.519 one was doctor Neil deGrasse Tyson, who was the host 95 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:42.480 of the event, and the doctor who discovered this code 96 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:46.439 written into the fabric of the universe is doctor James Gate, 97 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:50.639 leading quantum physicist. I'm going to put a link to 98 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:53.480 this YouTube video in the show notes and let you 99 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:58.959 go back and listen to the entire discussion, because every 100 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:02.519 time I listen, blows my mind. So it'll be in 101 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:05.399 the show notes. You listen to it and see if 102 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:08.560 it does the same thing to you. So this clip 103 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:13.319 was the inspiration for the discussion I had with my 104 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:18.360 first cousin, Chandrell. Why did I want to talk to 105 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:21.040 her about it? She and I are about the same 106 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:25.279 age and we grew up with our great grandmother Jane, 107 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:30.560 who I talked about in early episodes of the podcast, 108 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:33.839 who really opened my eyes to a number of the 109 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:38.800 paranormal theories that I share with you guys on this podcast. 110 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:44.040 So I wanted to get her perspective. I also wanted 111 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:48.959 to get her perspective because she's an EmPATH and these 112 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:52.759 topics mean a lot to her as well. So sit 113 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:57.720 back and relax and enjoy our discussion. Guys. Welcome back 114 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:02.000 to the podcast. Guys, we are uh, we're getting ready 115 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:05.600 to have a lot of fun. We're still in the 116 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:11.160 middle of our conspiracies chapter of the podcast and I 117 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:14.800 am just overjoyed to have my first cousin join me 118 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:19.279 in this episode where we're going to talk about simulation. 119 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:23.920 Simulation there are we living in the matrix and uh, 120 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:28.839 we've talked before the before we started recording, and it's 121 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:31.720 an entire hour and a half has gone by with 122 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:34.799 us just talking about all the experiences that she and 123 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:39.759 I have had over our lives in terms of this reality. 124 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:45.039 So I know you're gonna enjoy this episode. Enjoy talking 125 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:50.519 with my paternal first cousin, Sodra Poldness. Chandra, tell the 126 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:53.240 audience a little bit about yourself before we get into 127 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:53.720 the topic. 128 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.519 Well, hello, Mark, and thank you for having me on 129 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:02.000 your show today. Well as you, I am Chandra Opponents 130 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:06.120 and I am your first cousin, paternal first cousin. I 131 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:11.919 have been experiencers since childhood and I am an impath, 132 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:17.840 a dancer, a writer, amateur sky photographer, and I spend 133 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:22.919 my free time researching and listening to podcasts on spirituality 134 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:27.799 and other phenomenal events. So I am super excited to 135 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:30.639 be here with you and your audience today and let's 136 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:32.200 have some fun and kick it off. 137 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:37.679 That's right now, before we jump into simulation theory. An impath, Yes, 138 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:39.840 you thought you were the only one in the family 139 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:40.759 for a while there. 140 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:41.000 Didn't you? 141 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:43.879 Yes? I did, and I'm so happy. 142 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:46.200 Tell us a little bit about that. What what? What? 143 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.159 What were you feeling and sensing as you learned about 144 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:52.759 that ability that you that you. 145 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:59.159 Have, Well, I discovered that being an impath, you're very 146 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:05.279 sensitive to the environment around you. You're extremely ex sensitive 147 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:08.360 to other people's thoughts and how they feel about you 148 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:12.519 and their energy level. Because we're all energy being, we 149 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.240 all have our own certain frequency. So over the last 150 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:22.360 few years, I've been able to really just walk into 151 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:26.679 that path of being an impath and using that to 152 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:31.639 propel my life forward and sometimes help people and share 153 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.320 with them my experiences. So I like being an impath. 154 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:39.720 This is my first time actually saying this out in 155 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:44.360 public to you and your audience, So yeah, I mean, okay. 156 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:49.559 Yeah, it is a wonderful journey when you can connect 157 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:54.840 with those types of emotions and confidently act off of them. 158 00:10:55.559 --> 00:11:00.159 And that's one of the inspirations for the podcast, that 159 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:04.039 all of this energy is a part of us. It 160 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:09.879 connects us, it guides us, and you know, being event horizon, 161 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:14.200 you know, is that point where we all began and 162 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:18.480 where we were all in that light will eventually get 163 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.240 sucked back in, recycled and restarted, but we will still 164 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:26.440 maintain all those connections. And that's some of what we're 165 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:29.279 going to talk about here today. When we are looking 166 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:32.879 at the reality that we think we live in, there 167 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:35.840 have been those that have argued that it is a simulation. 168 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:39.360 Like the movie The Matrix, there was one reality and 169 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:45.240 one digital reality, and going back as far as Plato, 170 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.919 the arguments have been made that we're living in a 171 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:54.679 reflection of reality. And I know I've talked about it 172 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:57.320 a lot in the podcast of saying there was a 173 00:11:57.440 --> 00:11:59.919 point where we could walk with God in the Guard 174 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:04.080 and there wasn't a point that there was a separation. 175 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:09.360 And so if walking with God and is the reality, 176 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:12.919 what we're living here has to be a simulation, has 177 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.879 to be something other than being with God directly. So 178 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:22.919 Plato said Plato's view was looking at the material world 179 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:25.840 is like looking at a shadow cast on the wall 180 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:29.679 of a cave, while the real world is the one 181 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:34.080 that's out there where all the ideal forms of objects 182 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:36.559 come from. So he's saying, there's a real world, then 183 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:40.200 there's the shadow cast on the cave. And for me, 184 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:44.600 when I read that the first time, it gave me 185 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:50.200 the sense that we that we have a universe that 186 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.919 circles another universe, a dark energy that casts light onto 187 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:58.159 the cave that becomes a simulated world that we're living in. 188 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:00.799 But what are your that's that's going through your thoughts 189 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:02.919 on this, because you know we've talked about it a 190 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:05.879 little bit and then you know we'll dig further down 191 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:08.360 the rabbit hole. But what are your thoughts? 192 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.960 Well, I'll bring up two points. I'll share my experience. 193 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:18.519 You mentioned the movie Matrix, and excuse me, when it 194 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:22.240 first came out, I hadn't seen a lot of the 195 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:25.440 press chunking about it. I saw a couple of trailers 196 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:28.279 and I was all excited because I'm a huge sci 197 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.320 fi fan. So and at the time I was living 198 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:34.919 in New York. I'd gone to bought tickets to a 199 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:39.639 low theater and went to see it by myself. The 200 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:44.799 theater was packed and I was mesmerized. I thought, this 201 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:47.840 is the best sci fi movie they've put out ever. 202 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:54.080 But years later, as the other series came out and 203 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:57.480 the other three movies came out, I began to look 204 00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:04.320 at the movie differently, was really going on underneath the 205 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:10.720 love story of Neo and Trinity, and how it impacted 206 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:15.600 my own reality. And this brings me to the experience 207 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:20.879 I had actually a couple experiences I had upon wakening 208 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:25.320 in the morning. Normally, when a person wakes up, the 209 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.480 eyes are usually still closed and any stretched and prepared 210 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:33.200 to get out of bed. But this particular morning, as 211 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:39.159 I opened my eyes, what I saw was a black 212 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:49.600 room with buckets or pockets of outline neo green blocks. Right, 213 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:52.120 so you have this room and these blocks are set. 214 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:55.519 I didn't really think anything of it. I thought maybe 215 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:58.720 I was to read me Well. Several years later it 216 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:04.320 happened again, but upon examining it, I realized these blocks 217 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:08.679 were orange. So it's like, okay, what's really going on 218 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:15.000 those few moments that I awake where my consciousness is 219 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:18.639 not fully in my body, It's like, okay, what's going on. 220 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:24.120 So those events like that makes me believe or think, 221 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:30.960 are we living in assimilated reality? And how is that 222 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:36.120 impacting everything across my life, whether it be work, whether 223 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:40.440 it be events that I go to? What is really 224 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:45.039 going on? So I always ask a lot of questions 225 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:51.399 if we are or as we are, what's going on 226 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:59.480 behind the scenes? How are we sitting in this simulated reality? 227 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:05.159 What are the benefits? What are the disconnects? How is 228 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:10.720 that affecting our body because we are physical beings? And 229 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:14.679 how do I want to move forward in my life 230 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.559 knowing this wonderful, beautiful truth? 231 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:20.440 Yeah, it is. 232 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:24.960 It is a powerful question. And as you talk about 233 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:30.840 the movies, the characters before they actually realized there was 234 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.559 a matrix, they were trapped, you know, kind of in 235 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:37.799 these bubbles where they felt like they were living a reality, 236 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.559 but they were actually a physical prisoner in this human 237 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:48.000 form that connected them physically to this matrix right right, 238 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.960 And so it does beg the question are we part 239 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:55.559 of an experiment like that? Like you said, you wake 240 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:58.440 up and you get a glimpse of something different than 241 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:01.320 it kind of kicks in is the matrix? You know? 242 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:03.759 Did I see behind the curtain? Really quick? And they 243 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:08.319 pulled it back. Or am I a physical prisoner within 244 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:15.279 a technical infrastructure that's broadcasting a reality, a network reality 245 00:17:16.039 --> 00:17:20.240 to me? And you know, certainly arguments can be made 246 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:27.319 for that that we are ourselves fast approaching. Maybe the 247 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:32.279 next wave of that got the oculus headsets that people 248 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:38.720 are now using, and the the what you see is 249 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:41.519 so close to what reality looks like when you have 250 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.640 those oculus headset on. Even the manufacturer says, hey, don't 251 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:51.079 wear this too much because you will get uh, you'll 252 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:54.839 develop a view where you don't know reality from this 253 00:17:55.119 --> 00:18:01.559 from this virtual reality. And so imagine, if the computing 254 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:05.200 power continues at the rate it is going, at some 255 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:09.160 point in the future, you'll have the ability to fully 256 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:13.680 recreate a one for one scale of the entire planet 257 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:18.440 that you can experience through one of those headsets. Now, 258 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:22.119 if you're born with that on, how do you know 259 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.319 the difference between that reality and the reality that we 260 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:28.400 call the simulated universe that we're in now. 261 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:34.319 And also how would that affect your consciousness and your 262 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:40.279 own personal vibration if you can't distinguish between the truth 263 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:46.599 or between the two. Because I've seen people with those 264 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:54.960 oculus on and it. They seem disconnected from reality from 265 00:18:55.039 --> 00:19:01.119 the outside because they're making weird gestures, they're looking across 266 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:04.079 the room, and they're falling out of chairs. It's like, 267 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:07.720 that doesn't look very safe. And I had the opportunity 268 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:15.359 to experience one several years back in twenty sixteen at 269 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:22.200 Alien Con and it was very disconcerting because it cut 270 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:26.000 off my peripheral vision. You're kind of and it probably 271 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:29.440 have improved the technology since then, but I got a 272 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:33.839 sense of this is not real, and I felt exposed 273 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:37.960 and unsafe because I couldn't see the outside world. I 274 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:40.240 couldn't tell if I was sitting on a chair or 275 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:44.759 sitting by a river. So it's just very interesting. I'm 276 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:50.519 not that excited or thrilled to take on that experience 277 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:51.119 just yet. 278 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:57.880 There are people who will say this current reality feels 279 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:02.400 the same way. They don't feel safe, that they feel 280 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:06.920 like there's something they're missing when they wake up every 281 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:11.880 day and try to tap into that consciousness that you 282 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:16.920 refer to earlier, that there's a barrier between them and 283 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:20.440 that reality, and that the only escape they get is 284 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:26.000 when they dream that they can then suddenly sense or 285 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:28.920 tap into what they think is real. In those moments, 286 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:33.880 and that's why I've argued on this podcast dreams are 287 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:41.160 our reality. Our reality is our dream because our reality 288 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:46.799 has a certain mathematical element to it that it's predictable, 289 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:52.640 it's measurable, and it's constraining. And when we look at 290 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:55.720 the Bible and they say we're made in God's image, 291 00:20:55.799 --> 00:21:02.400 with God's capability and given dominion originally over all there 292 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:08.400 there is that was made. The constraints that we're talking 293 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:11.440 about here that we feel in this reality shouldn't exist. 294 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:13.559 I agree. 295 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:18.519 So I'm just from that view alone of what you're 296 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:24.079 saying about the oculus headset. I believe someone decided we 297 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:27.759 needed a set of oculus headset when there was the 298 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:32.559 schism between us and God, that original sin. Someone said, Okay, 299 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:36.319 at this point, guys, there's gonna be some mathematical constraints 300 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:41.480 on you and your ability to commune with God, and 301 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:43.279 we're only going to give you one path back, and 302 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:48.359 that's when you separate yourself from the physical being. That's 303 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:53.680 your path back to that communion that we started calling Heaven, 304 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:56.920 that you'll leave us and go to Heaven in the 305 00:21:57.039 --> 00:22:00.240 in the in the physical form or what so it 306 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:02.720 may call the digital form. If you're trying to compete 307 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:06.160 a develop a competing reality to what God has built, 308 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:10.799 that a spiritual form can travel across those planes back 309 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:14.400 into that world where there are no limits. But right now, 310 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:19.599 this reality, we have an oculus headset on that limits 311 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:22.920 us to a set of rules that someone has programmed, 312 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:23.720 at least in my. 313 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:29.480 Opinion, right And I'd also like to add that to 314 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:33.920 your point, the oculus is probably attached to our DNA 315 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:40.160 or what the scientists will say telemeters that cut off 316 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:46.680 that connection with the divine God the universe where we're 317 00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:50.440 only limited a certain amount of brest. On this plane, 318 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:56.559 we're only limited to an amount of wear awareness unless 319 00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:59.480 you're one of those souls that come in with everything 320 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:03.920 that you need to be a productive citizen in this plane. 321 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.559 And they talk and I talked about the sixth and 322 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:14.000 seventh sense, which are senses beyond the site to taste, feel, 323 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:21.160 and sound. So yeah, that's that's very interesting about the telemeters, 324 00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:25.920 and it makes me question how great would we be 325 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:30.920 if we didn't have the oculus on in this dimension 326 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:36.200 and the dream world, that's that's pretty interesting. 327 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:41.160 Well, the dream world, we are all powerful and when 328 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:43.720 you when you realize your dreaming and you start to 329 00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:47.160 control your dreams. And I've talked about that, uh in 330 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:50.200 the number of podcast episodes. In a blink of an eye, 331 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:54.119 you can go from California, San Francisco to Atlanta. You 332 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:58.519 can pick up cars, you can fly, you can whatever 333 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:02.559 you allow you yourself to do in the dream, it 334 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:05.920 becomes capable you can do it. In the physical world. 335 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:14.160 There is again rules, there's gravity, there's mathematical designs that 336 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:20.519 constrain you, and there are rules that can be broken 337 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:23.480 or bent. Like they say in the matrix, that a 338 00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:27.160 greater glimpse of what's behind the curtain. And like you said, 339 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:30.839 there are some souls that come in that I think 340 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:35.240 carry forward knowledge from a previous time on this plane 341 00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:38.680 and can get a head start on figuring out what 342 00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:43.960 those rules are. And you know, and some of them 343 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:48.079 just ball back down to the basics, eating better right, 344 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:54.599 eating the right foods, because I've become more convinced of 345 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.440 something we heard every day when we were going up. 346 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:02.400 You are what you eat. And so the religions, if 347 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:06.680 you talk about being kosher, or if you're talking about 348 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:12.319 with Geovah witnesses not wanting blood transfusions. Like you said, 349 00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:15.359 it gets back to the DNA gets back and you 350 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:20.839 can contaminate the DNA, disrupt or corrupt the DNA, and 351 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:24.960 it limits your ability to process the millions of points 352 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:30.200 of information that bombard us every second. Right. Yes, our 353 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:34.960 brain is the decoder. It's the browser, sir, that lets 354 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:41.160 us see what's out there. It's a very limited browser, right, 355 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:43.359 It's like the early versions of the browsers that came 356 00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.880 out when the Internet first came out, everything was kind 357 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:49.440 of one dimensional, right, mostly text on the website. You 358 00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:54.000 couldn't process any images. That's what our brains can process 359 00:25:54.079 --> 00:26:01.200 and handle right now, as we operate as a as 360 00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:06.319 a laptop, basically as a laptop, right, if you were 361 00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:10.839 to process the amount of real data that's out there 362 00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:14.640 that comes at us, we'd see more dimensions, we'd see 363 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.480 more objects, we'd see there's a ton more. We only 364 00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:21.680 can process ten to twelve pieces of information per second 365 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:27.920 with our current configuration. But if we were existing in 366 00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:31.519 a higher plane like Edgar Casey, the guy we talked 367 00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:33.599 about earlier before the podcast, the guy who could go 368 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.960 into a trance and suddenly tap into the brains of 369 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.039 people around the globe or people even around the universe 370 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:43.440 to come up with answers. If we existed like that, 371 00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:47.400 we're not limited to the processing power of a single brain. 372 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:51.000 We all become a collective brain, and it allows us 373 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:54.880 to see the realities that are out there. So that's 374 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:58.000 why I think the prison is almost a one that's 375 00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:01.599 a glass door. We can see through certain things, but 376 00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:03.880 until we realize who we are, we can never get 377 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:04.279 out of it. 378 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:11.240 Correct. And I'd also like to mention about our vision 379 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.400 on this plane. I believe the study said that we 380 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.599 see less than point zero zero percent of the visual spectrum. 381 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:24.920 So my question is always what else are we missing 382 00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:31.119 in that ninety nine percentage that's outside of that field? 383 00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:36.759 And some of us can see beyond that zero zero 384 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:42.240 point percentage and get a sense of Okay, there's more 385 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:45.279 to life than just human beings, and here there are 386 00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:52.240 other dimensions that are present and that are existing in 387 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:54.119 multiple dualities. 388 00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:58.559 Yeah, And I think when we talk about the infinite 389 00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:01.880 nature of our universe, part of what should be assumed, 390 00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:05.599 and that is what you just said. In the space 391 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:11.759 we're sitting in right now, there are other energies that 392 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:14.680 coexist with us right now, and the only thing that 393 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:21.960 separates us is this artificial notion of time. If you 394 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.519 believe that that is not a true reality, then all 395 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:30.400 of us are stacked inside the same space that we're 396 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.599 in right now, with all those other entities that may 397 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.599 be there. And that gives us that another view of 398 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.279 kind of thinking about the energies that exist. There are 399 00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:44.279 times when that veil is weakened and we can sense 400 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.000 what's going to share that space where our own energies 401 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:51.799