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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back everybody, It's Friday. You made it to the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the week. Congratulations. And to close us out

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<v Speaker 1>this week, there was an incident at Pride parade in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>John has the details about it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Pike's Peak Pride Festival recently was held in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>Participating in the parade and festival was a splinter group

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<v Speaker 2>of the Satanic Temple, the Satanic Colorado. During the parade parade,

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<v Speaker 2>the announcer read the submitted description of the group passing by,

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<v Speaker 2>which was submitted in their application. I would assume that

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<v Speaker 2>the city had vetted the statements submitted, did they? The

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<v Speaker 2>pearl clutching moment happened at the end of the announcement

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<v Speaker 2>about a seven second announcement of Satanic Colorado. The ending

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<v Speaker 2>salute on the submitted form was the common hail Satan.

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<v Speaker 2>Terror on the city council. Let the fear mond entering

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<v Speaker 2>begin and with that. This is a story from the

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<v Speaker 2>friendly atheist Metha on June twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Eli awesome, Thanks John, so so you gave us a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of background in your interest, so I just

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<v Speaker 1>to get a little bit more context for our audience

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<v Speaker 1>about kind of leading up to this moment in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the festival, how did this kind of play out?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the Pride fessals herald every year in June, which

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<v Speaker 2>is Pride Month. As everybody knows, Satanic Colorado is a secular,

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<v Speaker 2>non religious group that advocates for separation of church and state.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been participating the Pride Festival for many years in

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<v Speaker 2>support of the LGBTQ plus community. The city council chowse

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<v Speaker 2>this time not to issue any kind of proclamation honoring

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<v Speaker 2>Pride Month, despite doing so for the last three years.

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<v Speaker 2>They justify that move by saying that they no longer

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to engage in identity based or political gestures, and

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<v Speaker 2>so they've refused to. You know, most city councils will

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<v Speaker 2>give up acknowledgment to the days or the months assigned

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<v Speaker 2>to a particular group of people, but hey, not this time,

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<v Speaker 2>not this year. It's sort of like refusing to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>this systemic bop up words in justice spanning centuries. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, it can be argued that MLK Day is

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<v Speaker 2>both identity based and political, so you know, put that

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<v Speaker 2>as a reference. But what else will fear keep from

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<v Speaker 2>justice a good question. Calling the Satanic Colorado Hail Satan

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<v Speaker 2>announcement and incident is an exaggeration and a little hyperbole

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<v Speaker 2>by the city council people. Extreme emotional reaction to a

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<v Speaker 2>harmless two word phrase. This is stirred up by the

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<v Speaker 2>usual They did this after the usual Nazi people on

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<v Speaker 2>you TikTok had taken it up and showed the video

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<v Speaker 2>of this happening and everybody laughing and cheering as a

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<v Speaker 2>way of, you know, trying to other people, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course the city coward in the face of a little

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<v Speaker 2>backlash from the internet. Cowards is the right appellation, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I don't use it lightly, but yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>were pretty much yellowbillied, So I like that. Hemmett calls

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<v Speaker 2>out that the libs of TikTok who started this as

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<v Speaker 2>stochastic terrorists because they really are. They really are. What

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<v Speaker 2>they are is they're using their platform to instigate more

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<v Speaker 2>harm to groups of people or individuals. So yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 2>terrorists and they should be labeled as such and called

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<v Speaker 2>out as such. The city council should be singled out

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<v Speaker 2>as collaborators and bigots. So the cowardly caved into a

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<v Speaker 2>small group of wanna be influencers. Perhaps we need one

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<v Speaker 2>of our influencers to call them out the way they

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<v Speaker 2>are and with.

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<v Speaker 1>That strong yeah, strong words, UH for the city council.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you you pointed something out that and that

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<v Speaker 1>they said they didn't want to participate in political gestures

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<v Speaker 1>or identity based or political gestures, which I'll talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about later. But I wondered too, and and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think about it until now, but I wondered if they

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<v Speaker 1>put out a statement regarding you know, men's Mental Health

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<v Speaker 1>Awareness Months, which also I've seen posts about us, so

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<v Speaker 1>I believe is taking place in June. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that for certain, but I think it's it's it's something

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<v Speaker 1>that people are posting about in June, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's maybe some attempt to do that in like to

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<v Speaker 1>to take attention away from Pride Months, which not thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>with if that's the case, but I don't know that,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd be curious to know if the if the

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<v Speaker 1>City Council made any statements in that regard UH as

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<v Speaker 1>far as not engaging and identity politics. But Damien, like

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan haven't matter. The author had a pretty strong opinion

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<v Speaker 1>about the social media page that kind of checked their

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<v Speaker 1>all off. Did you disagree with them on that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, I'm going to very politely counter Jonathan's point

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<v Speaker 3>about Libs of TikTok being a stochastic terrorists. I do

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<v Speaker 3>think that some words, that some terms that we use

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<v Speaker 3>nowadays in the modern social media age can be overused

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<v Speaker 3>or lose their original meaning, and so I think sarcastic

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<v Speaker 3>terrorists may be one of them. Now, I personally don't

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<v Speaker 3>agree with everything Libs of TikTok says, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan's a bit like that. But however, I don't remember

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<v Speaker 3>any specific incident where Libs of TikTok has incited harm. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>insight ridicule of certain positions, but I think it becomes

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<v Speaker 3>terrorism when there is calls to harm people, And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember Libs of TikTok ever, actually calling for harm

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<v Speaker 3>to be done to specific people, whereas I could point

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<v Speaker 3>out early this year when there was a wave of

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<v Speaker 3>people defacing keing smashing in Tesla's and there was a

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<v Speaker 3>whole social media movement about that. So I'm just findly

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<v Speaker 3>interesting that you know, we call Limbs of TikTok sechastic terrorists,

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<v Speaker 3>even though they haven't to the best of my knowledge anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm very happy to be corrected on this. Libs

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<v Speaker 3>of TikTok haven't called for anyone to be harmed or

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<v Speaker 3>any violence, whereas we've had a whole wave of people

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<v Speaker 3>keen Tesla's to the point that there are prank videos

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<v Speaker 3>of people setting up cameras and sewerage systems inside Tesla's

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<v Speaker 3>to catch people defacing Tesla's and like that somehow isn't

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<v Speaker 3>or not really thought of a stochastic terrorism. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit no, sorry, it is okay, cool, So

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<v Speaker 3>were we agree on that? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>When you cause harm or property damage to somebody, but

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<v Speaker 2>harm can be defined in many, many different ways. I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of use a broad use of it. When you

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<v Speaker 2>are when you are specifically causing a city council to

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<v Speaker 2>withhold support for something they've been supporting, you are damaging

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<v Speaker 2>a subset of the population, and I call that horme.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, But do we know that Lynette crow Iverson, who

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<v Speaker 3>is the president of this of the of the Colorado

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<v Speaker 3>Springs City Council, do we know that she was specifically

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<v Speaker 3>influenced by by libs of TikTok because Hemmet Metha. Whether

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<v Speaker 3>you like the way he writes or not, he is

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<v Speaker 3>He's right, he writes one after the other, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just wondering if we're falling into the fallacy of after

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<v Speaker 3>this therefore, because of this, so Hemma Metha is writing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, sychastic terrorism of libs of TikTok, and then

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<v Speaker 3>two paragraphs down he's got if the location was that

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<v Speaker 3>the city council was no longer inclusive, President Lynet crow

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<v Speaker 3>Ovison having that point home by lushing out against parade organizers.

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<v Speaker 3>I was wondering, like, there's nothing I've read that indicates

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<v Speaker 3>that President Lynet crow Ovison is on social media to

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<v Speaker 3>see limbs of TikTok, to be influenced by them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, yeah, I think I think I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>this the way him it is, which is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different from and of course I'm not in his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't speak for him, but how I view it.

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<v Speaker 1>And as far as stochastic terrorism, because I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that meant I mentioned earlier before the recording, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was just him being funny because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the word terrorist, like I said, earlier. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's not used enough in hyperbole to its comedic potential,

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<v Speaker 1>but and I do love some good hyperbole when it's appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>But so here is the idea of stochastic terrorism. Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily that something that the person who is performing it

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<v Speaker 1>says causes harm or something that they do causes harm.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is too in the context of libs of

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok published content reinforce opinions or generate generates not the

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<v Speaker 1>word I was looking for, cultivate an environment in which

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<v Speaker 1>harm towards a specific group becomes more likely. It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't predict when or where the harm will take place.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is the stochastic nature, which is the random,

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<v Speaker 1>probability based nature of stochastic terrorism. But it is that

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<v Speaker 1>because of what libs of TikTok publishes and what they do,

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<v Speaker 1>that increases a likelihood that harm will take place.

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<v Speaker 2>So when they.

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<v Speaker 1>Because at first there wasn't any reaction to this announcement,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like you mentioned, I think I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was John that one of you mentioned the video that

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<v Speaker 1>at the end they were cheering, people were clapping, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the video last twenty six seconds and twenty seconds

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<v Speaker 1>of it is thennouncements, and then for the last four

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<v Speaker 1>of it, it's people cheering and clapping. Nobody is upset.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Libs of TikTok finds the video, they say,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they say about it, I don't watch their video.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to give them the traffic.

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<v Speaker 3>They basically said that the whole thing, the thing was demonic.

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<v Speaker 3>They literally use the word demonic in there. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just bringing up the.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that doesn't cause harm to anybody who's in that parade, now,

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<v Speaker 2>does it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's not that necessarily, it's that because Libs of

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok published it and they have a wide audience, it became,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was it was sensationalized, and that's sensational

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<v Speaker 1>That sensation is what put the pressure on the city

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<v Speaker 1>council to then respond with a statement.

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<v Speaker 3>A statistical organization walked in the Pike's Peak Pride parade

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<v Speaker 3>as an announcer yells Hail Satan, and it's met with cheers.

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<v Speaker 3>Demonic that's literally, and then there's a then there's a

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<v Speaker 3>click of the video.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and I think so it does it does

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<v Speaker 1>imply that everybody that is represented in the video is demonic,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think some might probably call that defamation, But

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<v Speaker 1>then what it does is it's that reaction from that

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<v Speaker 1>page's audience that created the pressure on city council, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they then responded, because they didn't respond to

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<v Speaker 1>the event until it had all this sensation, all of

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<v Speaker 1>this attention. So that's that's sort of my take on

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I think that the idea of still stochastic

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<v Speaker 1>terrorism and the city council being impacted by by that,

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<v Speaker 1>is that making.

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<v Speaker 2>Sense an event that has been going on with this

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<v Speaker 2>group's participation for many, many years, and every year they

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<v Speaker 2>have something similar as far as an announcement for as

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<v Speaker 2>the parade proceeds, and then this time it was they

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<v Speaker 2>needed to help create the environment of other men and

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<v Speaker 2>the environment of saying these people are not normal, the

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<v Speaker 2>environment of saying they're not part of our society. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the thing is that when you were in when

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<v Speaker 2>you were inflating and causing people to think of your

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<v Speaker 2>group as those guys over there, those evil people over there,

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<v Speaker 2>you're basically creating an environment where they have to survive

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of negative people around them. And since

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<v Speaker 2>queer people have had that problem, for the last thousand years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big deal when somebody comes out and tries

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<v Speaker 2>to create you're not part of our society message. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it hurts, it's painful, just you know, and people who

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<v Speaker 2>aren't queer don't understand that. They don't understand that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can just laugh it off. Well yeah, but why

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<v Speaker 2>why should we have to laugh it off? It hurts?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Why do I have to take the heat

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<v Speaker 2>for that when they're the ones doing it. I could

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<v Speaker 2>get into a whole bunch of other stuff with it.

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<v Speaker 2>As a queer individual myself, I get really pissed off

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<v Speaker 2>wars people, they think it's fun that make their money

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<v Speaker 2>by degrading people. That's fine, they have a right to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. There is free speech. I don't think free

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<v Speaker 2>speech encompasses that kind of terroristic activity. And I call

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<v Speaker 2>it terrorism because it is. And you know, however, people

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<v Speaker 2>not normal and that I'm sorry I'm getting so demonstrative,

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<v Speaker 2>but I really really just resent lives of TikTok for

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<v Speaker 2>I am, but I really resent them for what they are,

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<v Speaker 2>what they're causing to happen to me and other queer people,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in this day and age when bigotry is okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I was raised in the sixties and seventies where bigotry

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<v Speaker 2>in the last ten years, fifteen years, and i've seen

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<v Speaker 2>in all the time before that. Wow, So I'm done over.

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<v Speaker 1>No, And I think with good reason, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it is ironic to look at the fur. The majority

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to be their authentic selves happily and comfortably and safely,

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<v Speaker 1>and how they really just want like everyone to have

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<v Speaker 1>a generally decent time. And then they take this video

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<v Speaker 1>and because of two words at the end, they're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is demonic, Like it's it's demonic for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to want peace and just like happiness for people. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the City Council coastlines that and says, yeah, peace

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<v Speaker 1>and happiness for everybody, regardless of who they want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>That does not allow with our values. And I can

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely see how that might, you know, come across as

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<v Speaker 1>someone who was experiencing what you were describing, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>that that might, you know, seem like just a really

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<v Speaker 1>shitty thing, just to put it bluntly, And that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, if if you had the same announcement for

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<v Speaker 1>would there have been any like, any response to that whatsoever?

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<v Speaker 1>If it was like, oh, they would assume No, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just what Christians do. Christians just want goodness for everybody

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<v Speaker 1>and they say praise God at the end. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>response from that. But but just because it was different

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<v Speaker 1>sounds at the end, it's this group and I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to ramble. I'm gonna let you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, finish it out with your thoughts here in

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<v Speaker 1>the minute. But this group doesn't actually believe that Satan

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<v Speaker 1>really exists and and it it's said that explicitly, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh in the description they're non theistic group. Satan

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<v Speaker 1>is their guy is a Christian. Does exactly two belief

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<v Speaker 1>systems in the world that that recognize or believe that

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<v Speaker 1>Satan is a real guy. We're just making fun of him.

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<v Speaker 1>And you'd think that not taking the bad guy seriously

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<v Speaker 1>would resonate with like people who believe in in an

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<v Speaker 1>unshakeable or have unshakeable faith in an omnipotent God, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's it's it. They're just playing into

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<v Speaker 1>the same joke every time they get upset about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Hal Satan or Satan, Satanic temple or whoever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I and I almost want them to get it, But

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<v Speaker 1>I I because I think uh gen Z Christians would

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<v Speaker 2>So that doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like some someone would do a pretty good job.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got a couple of minutes here left. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have any any thoughts you wanted to close

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<v Speaker 1>with Damien.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I'm in no way trying to diminish Jonathan's personal experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Just from my I suppose foreign perspective. I will make

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of quick points. Firstly, is that Christian I

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<v Speaker 3>suppose ultra conservatives have been doing this sort of dumb

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<v Speaker 3>think it was a late nineties where there was a

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<v Speaker 3>Christian group that tried to have the word Hello renamed

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<v Speaker 3>Heaven oh because Hallo had h E double L in

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<v Speaker 3>the name Ohga. So you know, it's like this, like

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<v Speaker 3>this is nothing new under the sun, you know, for starters,

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<v Speaker 3>And look, it's a I do get where Jonathan's coming

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<v Speaker 3>from with regards to lives at TikTok. And I'm actually

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<v Speaker 3>going through the quote tweets of the original posts and

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<v Speaker 3>there's only a couple that actually mention Colorado, that actually

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<v Speaker 3>tang the Colorado government Twitter account. So I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 3>there's a massive pilon that was caused by this, or

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<v Speaker 3>if there is, it's done done by the means. But

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<v Speaker 3>also I'm just looking at all of the hate that

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk and Donald and Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth

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<v Speaker 3>and all these high profile conservatives, right right wing figures get,

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<v Speaker 3>and I without trying to be accused of what about ism,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just interesting that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like we.

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<v Speaker 3>We are. I suppose condemning lived at TikTok for this,

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<v Speaker 3>for this, But then I could also point out, just

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<v Speaker 3>from my foreign perspective, that there's a lot there's also

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<v Speaker 3>the same kind of thing on the other side. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I think it's not so much that bigotry has

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<v Speaker 3>has increased. I think it's just this general lack of

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<v Speaker 3>civil discourse that has that has increased. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>the sooner that we learn to handle disagreements better rather

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<v Speaker 3>than make it personal and oldest kind of thing. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>what this is kind of in line with what the

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<v Speaker 3>Attanic Temple want is, you know, you know, being mature

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<v Speaker 3>humans that you know, I suppose how I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>put it, you know, we can live in pace with

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<v Speaker 3>respect and dignity as their authentic selves. And that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of what I want for everyone. And yeah, that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of my my final points, Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think I could get into a long

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<v Speaker 2>discussion about about that. And I can disagree with you

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<v Speaker 2>on certain points. I never wanted my diatribe to make

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like you were the target of that in

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<v Speaker 2>any way. I understand you're from another country, and I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that your perspective is valuable. So I actually I

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<v Speaker 2>like the fact that you gave that perspective because I

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<v Speaker 2>would not have thought about it that way. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's an important thing. That's why we're here. We're here

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<v Speaker 2>to have a different perspective. May not seem like it

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, but we do argue about these things.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, uh, the next time I'm in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll look you up. We can have that discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>That way.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, no, I mean, you know, there is something

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<v Speaker 2>about isn't But it's always about uh look shiny, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>trying It gets to be a distraction from the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to have, you know, you know, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>why that's why I that's where I would go with that,

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<v Speaker 2>is that we want to get to the facts, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to get to the discussion why this is

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<v Speaker 2>here at all? You know, why why do people hate age?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, why are they so why is this? Why

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<v Speaker 2>are they so putting us down all the time. Why

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<v Speaker 2>can't we just have a parade without everybody clutching their

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<v Speaker 2>pearls and screaming through bullhorns at us. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole that's a whole nother show that we can

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<v Speaker 2>have sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to point out. So I do want

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<v Speaker 3>to point out that, well, I think there was a

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<v Speaker 3>councilor said that we don't want to sponsor anything that's

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<v Speaker 3>personal or political or you know, into identity. But then

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<v Speaker 3>it was talking about like military like I think parades

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<v Speaker 3>for veterans and all this, all this kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like, well that that is a that is

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<v Speaker 3>a identity based thing, you know exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's says flip flopping back and forth. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>say anything to cover your ass, but don't worry if

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<v Speaker 1>it even makes sense, or worry about it later or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever will make up something else later. They said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we chose not to engage in identity or based or

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<v Speaker 1>political gestures, which is city council Like, I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>They're politically. Yeah, here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say I was shocked, says City council

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<v Speaker 3>member Dave Donaldson. Veterans Day Parade will get nothing this year.

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<v Speaker 3>The Festival of Lives will get nothing, but that celebration

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<v Speaker 3>got sixty thousand was a fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Increase sixty thousand for what front for.

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<v Speaker 3>The Pride Peaks, Pride Parade.

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<v Speaker 1>God, that's aure that is hard. Even a person's comment

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<v Speaker 1>even relates to it though, like one time, right, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is what about is? Well what about them getting all

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's what about? Is that we we really

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<v Speaker 3>need to stop. It's like, yeah, that's stuff and that's

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<v Speaker 3>just everything sponsor everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not to push it even further, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it is what what about it?

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<v Speaker 1>But it is to say that if they're gonna, if

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to choose to avoid identity based gesture or

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<v Speaker 1>political gestures, then they should avoid them and not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wait until it's like, oh well this is against Christianity

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're going to get involved. Because Christianity is

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<v Speaker 1>very much an identity. I mean, if if, if your

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<v Speaker 1>beliefs are certainly you know, a part of your identity,

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<v Speaker 1>and Christianity is a belief So believing in Satan is

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<v Speaker 1>a feature of like I said earlier, those two belief systems.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking a stance on Satan is an identity based gesture.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you know that Christianity is persecuted in America.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I mean it's not it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, you know, gay or something. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're persecuted more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And not only is it an identity based gesture,

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<v Speaker 1>but since they're the government and it's a religious identity,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also an illegal gesture. Well what are you gonna

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