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Speaker 3: Stand hi and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.
Speaker 3: I'm your host, Deplorable Janet, and today I have my beautiful,
Speaker 3: lovely bestie, bestie, doctor Shannon back on the show. It's
Speaker 3: been a hot minute, but she is a very busy woman,
Speaker 3: very hard to get a hold of at some times,
Speaker 3: but she is here today and we are going to
Speaker 3: blow the lid off the cortisol topic. So, without further ado,
Speaker 3: welcome Miss Shennon.
Speaker 4: How are you well?
Speaker 2: Thank you, I'm fantastic, I have no complaints and I
Speaker 2: am super happy to be back with you. As always,
Speaker 2: We're a good.
Speaker 4: Time, I know on screen and in person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the truth.
Speaker 3: We do need another one of those outings because that
Speaker 3: was very enjoyable.
Speaker 2: Totally agree, and I have the perfect one. I think
Speaker 2: it starts late August, but I'm not sure if you
Speaker 2: saw it Vegas at the Sphere Wizard of Oz baby,
Speaker 2: and it's happening late August through like the whole month
Speaker 2: of September, which happens to be my birthday month.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go watch Wizard of Oz in the Sphere.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 3: Hopefully the tickets are not ridiculous when.
Speaker 2: They're like one hundred and thirty eight or something, which
Speaker 2: I don't think is that bad to go to the Sphere,
Speaker 2: but I don't know.
Speaker 3: I and my husband some people he works with, were
Speaker 3: just out there for conference and they had who was it, Oh,
Speaker 3: Gwen Stefani Oh was performing a special show at the
Speaker 3: Sphere just for the conference people because it's like a
Speaker 3: nation of my conference or whatever. And the tickets were
Speaker 3: so retarded. It was like almost three hundred bucks for
Speaker 3: a ticket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's nuts. But I think old school is.
Speaker 2: And it's like the original. This is no Wicked, Okay,
Speaker 2: Like this is like old school. So I know every word.
Speaker 2: I've already I already feel bad for whoever I'm gonna
Speaker 2: sit by because I will not shut up, like I
Speaker 2: will say the whole movie.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say that whoever it is that is
Speaker 3: by you is going to have a really good time,
Speaker 3: whether they want to or not. In fact, oh boy,
Speaker 3: so doctor Shannon, tell people what the heck it's cortisol?
Speaker 3: And why is it such a hot topic right now?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I hope we're going to be on this
Speaker 2: for a few because I actually, over the past year
Speaker 2: have gone down my own court all journeys, so I've
Speaker 2: learned a lot about what it is, how it works,
Speaker 2: and I mean, it is the bitch of all bitches.
Speaker 2: And so I think it's a hot topic right now,
Speaker 2: and I think it's honestly very timely because I'm gonna
Speaker 2: just say what has what soapbox I've been on lately,
Speaker 2: especially with women. But what I see as our modern
Speaker 2: world progresses and we are not seeming to slow down
Speaker 2: at all, is just that we need to slow the
Speaker 2: f down and we need to stand up and take
Speaker 2: a stand for rest within our day recovery time, especially
Speaker 2: after a certain.
Speaker 4: Age, which is.
Speaker 2: Forty, so especially once women go over the age of forty.
Speaker 2: And this is for men too, but like especially women,
Speaker 2: because of how it's connected to hormones and where it's
Speaker 2: at in the hormonal hierarchy. I would say that that
Speaker 2: is one of the most timely reasons why this is
Speaker 2: a big hot topic. The other thing is is that
Speaker 2: our world is not getting more antiquated or ancient. It's
Speaker 2: getting more modern by the second. But the last I remember,
Speaker 2: we don't have sabertooth tigers running around, and so I
Speaker 2: wish that that's what cortisol is meant for. Is if
Speaker 2: you're running for your life because you're going to get
Speaker 2: started by a sabertooth tiger. There is not much that
Speaker 2: happens in our world apart from you know, let's say
Speaker 2: you're an active part of a crime or a robbery
Speaker 2: or something like. In those types of moments, your cortisol
Speaker 2: is meant to serve you, and the body is made
Speaker 2: perfectly for that to serve you. But when you're just
Speaker 2: at work, what you getting stressed out for? Like what
Speaker 2: is the fear? And I can honestly track that back
Speaker 2: to a completely different topic, which is money, and that's
Speaker 2: probably a different show altogether. So cortisol, we kind of
Speaker 2: let be the boss of us. And when you really
Speaker 2: kind of pare it down and look at what it's
Speaker 2: doing to us first and foremost. But when you put
Speaker 2: apply a little logic to it, which I know is
Speaker 2: sort of few and far between these days, but if
Speaker 2: you apply that logic to it, it's like, what the
Speaker 2: hell are you so stressed out by?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: And I like to take people through an exercise where
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, so what happens if you don't get
Speaker 2: that work assignment done? Your boss gets mad? Okay, then what?
Speaker 2: And then what? And then what? And but are you
Speaker 2: gonna die? The answer is no, you might be out
Speaker 2: of a job. And that's where that money connection piece
Speaker 2: comes in. But the rest of it, I feel like money,
Speaker 2: and unnecessarily so, because money's just an energy. So we've
Speaker 2: got we've got some mental mindset stuff that we've got
Speaker 2: to work out about cortisol as well. But once you
Speaker 2: kind of figure out how it really works in the
Speaker 2: body and how you can actually control it for yourself,
Speaker 2: and you get that under control, then you start to
Speaker 2: be able to think more level and clear headed because
Speaker 2: you're no longer in fight or flight mode all of
Speaker 2: the time. You're chill. And that's because when you're in
Speaker 2: fight or flight, your brain completely shuts down. You can't
Speaker 2: think or you can't think clearly, you have no clarity
Speaker 2: and son, then we once the cascade has begun, then
Speaker 2: what we start to do is we go on the
Speaker 2: hunt for supplements. Oh I need this from a memory.
Speaker 2: Oh I need that. No, honey, you're overwhelmed because you're
Speaker 2: in fight or flight mode, and oh I'm gonna need this.
Speaker 2: Court is all blocker. Why you could just breathe, you
Speaker 2: could just slow the fuck down? Can I swear on this? Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure I'm being but like,
Speaker 2: slow the fuck down and take a minute, take a beat, Like,
Speaker 2: who is genuinely the boss of you? I mean, didn't
Speaker 2: we kind of go through this during COVID where we
Speaker 2: were like, you can't tell me what to do?
Speaker 4: What happened to that?
Speaker 2: What happened to that? And all the people? So okay,
Speaker 2: long winded point short hair. I definitely think that it's
Speaker 2: because we haven't figured out how to slow down, and
Speaker 2: if we don't make time for it, then it's going
Speaker 2: to become the boss of us. Truly, that will be
Speaker 2: the boss of us, and they will deteriorate. I call
Speaker 2: this our earth suit, it will deteriorate this body so
Speaker 2: fast you won't even be done with your mission on
Speaker 2: Earth before you're gone. So we really kind of owe
Speaker 2: it to ourselves and to our life really to like
Speaker 2: take care of this body so that it doesn't wear
Speaker 2: out prematurely, right, And I would say that's one of
Speaker 2: the bigger pieces of it. But you have to understand
Speaker 2: the hormonal hierarchy about that too.
Speaker 3: So for people who don't know where does cortisol come from.
Speaker 2: Cortisol comes from your adrenals, which are I call them
Speaker 2: the little hats on your kidneys. It's like these little
Speaker 2: triangular hats and it's part of the sympathetic nervous system.
Speaker 2: So it's a nervous system trigger. And when your body
Speaker 2: gets in constant stress mode, your your adrenals start to
Speaker 2: produce a lot of cortisol because that's what you get
Speaker 2: along with the adrenaline that tries to help calm you down.
Speaker 2: It also dumbs you down. Though it dumbs you, it
Speaker 2: makes you go straight into your reptilian brain, straight into survival.
Speaker 2: That's what you're just like freak out and run and
Speaker 2: try to save yourself. You know. It's what people do
Speaker 2: when they get in a panicked situation, and you know,
Speaker 2: if you're trapped with lots of people, like everybody just
Speaker 2: shuts down, freaks out, panics, and then tramples each other.
Speaker 2: So your cortisol. Let me back up a step and say,
Speaker 2: the human body actually is its own pharmacy. It is
Speaker 2: perfectly and brilliantly created to give you every single medicine
Speaker 2: that your body actually needs to survive, to thrive, to
Speaker 2: be happy, to be sad, to like handle any situation
Speaker 2: that occurs. And so this is one of those kind
Speaker 2: of medications or drugs that your body produces in order
Speaker 2: to help you in a situation where you can't like
Speaker 2: stop and pause and think like, hmm, how do I
Speaker 2: get out of this situation? It's like just go, just go.
Speaker 4: Somebody's chessing me. Whatever should I do?
Speaker 2: While while they're like right in front of you. And
Speaker 2: so this is a natural response to the body. But
Speaker 2: we have seen in our modern conveniences that that has
Speaker 2: completely flipped to where we are on stress mode all
Speaker 2: the time. One of the things that I did to
Speaker 2: control my cortisol is I did get the aura ring.
Speaker 2: And that was the biggest reason why I got it,
Speaker 2: because I had heard that it tracked that data, and
Speaker 2: I wanted to know where my stress was hitting during
Speaker 2: the day, and so that I could kind of it
Speaker 2: allows you to put these little tags, like what was
Speaker 2: going on that hour when you spiked into that stressed mode.
Speaker 2: And here's what I found. I was a stressed out sleeper.
Speaker 2: And people do not think about this at all, but
Speaker 2: your recordisol could be spiking in your sleep.
Speaker 3: I think that is probably a good summation of me.
Speaker 3: Because I get so hot and I flip off the
Speaker 3: covers and I'm like, oh my god, I can't sleep
Speaker 3: because I'm so hot. And then I'm like, okay, now
Speaker 3: I'm cold, and then I cover up and then I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh my shoulder heerd s Nope, I better turn over.
Speaker 3: And it's like constantly disturbing me, or because we have
Speaker 3: animals and they disturb me while I'm sleeping, or you
Speaker 3: know whatever. Like right before I go to bed, I
Speaker 3: like to call it my Jesus dump because I'll be
Speaker 3: trying to say my prayers and then all of these
Speaker 3: stupid things that I've not thought about at all ever
Speaker 3: pop into my head and I'm like, what do I
Speaker 3: need to know about?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: Carrots right now. I wasn't even thinking about carrots. And
Speaker 3: it's like all this stupid stuff just randomly like pops
Speaker 3: in while I'm praying, and I'm like, what the heck?
Speaker 3: And that it causes me to not not get to
Speaker 3: sleep like I should.
Speaker 2: And isn't that the big conundrum because we all know
Speaker 2: that having great sleep is how you lose weight or
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say release weight. I'm gonna keep catching myself.
Speaker 2: I'm training myself to stop saying lose because ain't nobody
Speaker 2: want to find that again? You know, right, but if
Speaker 2: your cortisol is high while you're sleeping, that's a double whammie.
Speaker 2: You're not You're not only are you not going to
Speaker 2: gain weight or reduce the weight, but you're gonna gain
Speaker 2: it potentially because you're still stressed out. And I used
Speaker 2: to joke and say, well, whatever I'm doing in the
Speaker 2: night seasons is like I must be going to battle
Speaker 2: or something, because I would even wake up like I
Speaker 2: don't know what the f I just did, but I
Speaker 2: did not sleep.
Speaker 4: But I'm sorry everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a thing, and so what I not only
Speaker 2: did I get this all under wraps, but I sleep
Speaker 2: with two wiener dogs and another adult in the same bed,
Speaker 2: and I get optimal sleep every night. And I blamed everything.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm of that age. Must be perimenopause,
Speaker 2: you know, it must be my hormones there. And I
Speaker 2: am not kidding. I do believe my hormones were starting
Speaker 2: to cascade. I do think that that had that was
Speaker 2: the trigger for me. I am somebody who definitely listens
Speaker 2: to my body. I'm aware when my body makes even
Speaker 2: the strangest, little minutest little change, I'm like, what's that,
Speaker 2: you know? And then I then I go to fit
Speaker 2: try to figure it out. And so I have. And
Speaker 2: it It's taken me over the course of the year
Speaker 2: to really realize, like, the control and the power to
Speaker 2: reduce the cortisol level is mine. I ultimately have the
Speaker 2: control over that. And it took the form of me
Speaker 2: making time to just stop and breathe, stop and meditate,
Speaker 2: to just do nothing sometimes just sit and read. Whereas
Speaker 2: before I would be like, oh, I'm too busy, I
Speaker 2: can't sit down and read even five pages right now,
Speaker 2: I would I would force myself to sit down and
Speaker 2: read one chapter of a book just because it gets
Speaker 2: you into restoration mode. So this ring really gives you
Speaker 2: some great information. And so if I have a particularly
Speaker 2: busy day. So I recently went to Japan to visit
Speaker 2: my daughter who is studying abroad there for the year,
Speaker 2: and I'm telling you, we averaged eighteen thousand steps a day.
Speaker 2: It was like, you're walking.
Speaker 4: Everywhere, everywhere.
Speaker 2: It was all walking, all the time, walking to the buses,
Speaker 2: even which you know, that's another story. But so my
Speaker 2: ring was like, ah, you had a lot of activity yesterday,
Speaker 2: perhaps today you want to just rest and not do much,
Speaker 2: you know. So it's kind of fun because it's giving
Speaker 2: you the permission to like, maybe not go do your
Speaker 2: workout today because you worked out way too hard. So
Speaker 2: let's just talk about that connection, because that's the other thing.
Speaker 2: And I'm probably gonna not make friends on this. The
Speaker 2: friends that I do have, Janet, you haven't divorced me yet,
Speaker 2: but now most of them are like, you ruin everything
Speaker 2: that's good, you know, And I'm like, well, I know
Speaker 2: I ruined the fast food and I ruin stuff, but
Speaker 2: here I might ruin a lot of people. And I
Speaker 2: taught this to a whole bunch of fitness instructors, So
Speaker 2: you can imagine I was like ready to be tard
Speaker 2: and feathered at the end of it, But I said,
Speaker 2: you guys are working out way too much, and especially
Speaker 2: once you're over forty, when everybody thinks societal society says
Speaker 2: that it is normal to hurt yourself because that means
Speaker 2: your muscle fibers are tearing and they have to rebuild
Speaker 2: and that's a normal part of it. And it's like, well,
Speaker 2: that's not actually true. More lactic acid you have probably
Speaker 2: not good, but you're actually causing in in the body.
Speaker 2: And we do know that inflammation is probably the culprit
Speaker 2: behind every thing. Ye everything, okay, And guess what causes
Speaker 2: inflammation of corse. So cortisol is running rampant when you're
Speaker 2: when you have tendon itis or itis of anything, you've
Speaker 2: got any kind of autoimmune or chronic condition. I'm going
Speaker 2: to tell you to look in word and figure out
Speaker 2: like where your inflammation is at, because that that is
Speaker 2: the hidden trigger that tells you that cortisol's taken over
Speaker 2: your your entire body. So after age forty and I
Speaker 2: had to get myself used to this, which, uh, for
Speaker 2: the most part, I really dedicated myself to this. Last
Speaker 2: year when I was trying to figure this out. I
Speaker 2: used to be a runner and I really genuinely enjoyed
Speaker 2: it because I I used to be a pretty type
Speaker 2: a personality and it would clear I was like a labrador.
Speaker 2: I just had to get rid of that energy.
Speaker 4: You know, you're brain very high energy people, and I
Speaker 4: can tell you now the.
Speaker 2: Energy is very different. So I still have a lot
Speaker 2: of it. But when it's time for me to go
Speaker 2: to bed, I'm appropriately ready to go to bed, and
Speaker 2: it's not just jacked all the time, and like, oh,
Speaker 2: I got to go expend some energy. And so I
Speaker 2: used to run a lot, and I forced myself to
Speaker 2: change how I think about exercise because at my age,
Speaker 2: I really don't I don't need it, and I think
Speaker 2: that you know, we know we've been lied to about
Speaker 2: almost everything, right, absolutely, why would this surprise people? Right?
Speaker 2: Because this is taking now the fitness industry and what
Speaker 2: they're telling you, and it's completely flip flopping that on
Speaker 2: its head. You do not need more than thirty minutes
Speaker 2: of working out a day, and most of it should
Speaker 2: be in strength training, and why because you are protecting
Speaker 2: your bones? Could re stop with this calcium bullshit? So
Speaker 2: I'm not denying that calcium is an aid that helps,
Speaker 2: but by over for age four, that calcium's not helping
Speaker 2: you get strong bones. Your bones are as strong as
Speaker 2: they gonna get. But in order to protect what you
Speaker 2: have and to keep them strong, you've got to now
Speaker 2: build muscle, and you've got to have proper lean muscle mass.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you're ripped or anything. As long
Speaker 2: as you have good ratio of lean body muscle mass,
Speaker 2: then that is actually what protects you from the osteoporosis
Speaker 2: the most. And so it's funny people always want to
Speaker 2: ask me for the supplement recommendation, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I would not actually tell you to take calcium at
Speaker 2: your age, you know, if it's somebody over forty, and
Speaker 2: even sometimes not really before that. So I use calcium
Speaker 2: for a whole different reason for people, and that's to
Speaker 2: restore pH balance to their gut and their internal environment,
Speaker 2: not to protect their bones. Calcium also helps the uptake
Speaker 2: of other minerals and vitamins, but it's not what at
Speaker 2: this point in your life is making your bone strong.
Speaker 2: So let's knock that off so you know it's it, really,
Speaker 2: but you only need thirty minutes a day and thirty minutes,
Speaker 2: sure you might get lightly sore, but it should be
Speaker 2: gone by like, you know, midpoint next day. But it
Speaker 2: should be that good kind where it doesn't hurt you
Speaker 2: to sit down on the toilet your arm, to drink
Speaker 2: your coffee or something like. That's that's inflammation. So now
Speaker 2: what you're doing, you are stressing your body out and
Speaker 2: cortisol floods in because stress, right, stress, stress, stress, So
Speaker 2: your body is now freaked out in stress because you
Speaker 2: just fucked it the other day and you're all like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I just got ripped. I just did the work, like
Speaker 2: two hour workout, and it's like, okay, that doesn't impress
Speaker 2: me at all because you just made your body cry,
Speaker 2: and your body is going to first heal itself. Your
Speaker 2: body always does that first. Your body's constantly working to
Speaker 2: survive and to keep you alive, and that means healing cuts,
Speaker 2: healing scrapes and bruises and injuries, and it's always working
Speaker 2: to repair first. So then the question becomes, you know,
Speaker 2: do you have the proper nutrition in terms of keeping ligaments, tendons,
Speaker 2: and your collagen stuff in shape. But that's another topic.
Speaker 2: So your body's going to try to rid itself of
Speaker 2: the inflammation before it gets down to other business like
Speaker 2: reducing weight. So you're now you've now distracted your body.
Speaker 2: And again, guess who's king? Court is all but in
Speaker 2: the hormonal hierarchy, guess who should be king? It's oxytocin
Speaker 2: and oxytocin. When I saw this, and you can pull
Speaker 2: up a diagram anywhere on Google, it's called the hormonal hierarchy,
Speaker 2: and oxytocin is at the very top. And oxytocin is
Speaker 2: what you get when you're snuggling your pets or you're
Speaker 2: doing something squishy and you're just joy. It's just like
Speaker 2: it makes you happy. Right. That means you get out
Speaker 2: of bed in the morning and you do a little
Speaker 2: dance and that's how you start your day and you
Speaker 2: love it. Do that. For me, what that looks like
Speaker 2: is I get up, I grab my cup of coffee,
Speaker 2: I return to my bed, and I snuggle my waiter
Speaker 2: dogs while I'm drinking my coffee in silence where no
Speaker 2: one else is at me for a decision or anything else.
Speaker 2: I can just quietly drink my cup of coffee, snuggle
Speaker 2: my fur babies, and that if I don't start my
Speaker 2: day that way. It kind of makes me struggle a
Speaker 2: little bit because that's just how I calm, and I
Speaker 2: start my day calm.
Speaker 3: I'm glad to you said that, because I'm a huge
Speaker 3: firm believer in the fact that you have to have
Speaker 3: your morning routine every day and what you do and
Speaker 3: how you start it. And if you ever notice, like
Speaker 3: if you're one of those people that like, this is
Speaker 3: what I do every day and order and how it goes.
Speaker 3: But say you got up really late and you can't
Speaker 3: do all of those things, you should typically fill your
Speaker 3: body starting to stress out. Yeah, because it's used to
Speaker 3: that routine. Like for me, it's the same thing every
Speaker 3: single day. I get up, I go to the bathroom,
Speaker 3: I feed the cats, I go outside and sit outside
Speaker 3: and enjoy that fresh air and stuff. And if there's
Speaker 3: ever a time where I can't do, especially the allowed
Speaker 3: amount of time, it throws my whole day off. And
Speaker 3: I don't do social media and I don't get into
Speaker 3: end depth conversations in the morning with people who are
Speaker 3: having a existential crisis with something.
Speaker 4: I just don't do that.
Speaker 3: I shut off that communication pathway until my morning routine
Speaker 3: is done.
Speaker 4: And I'm ready yep.
Speaker 2: And your cortisol typically spikes within two hours hours of
Speaker 2: waking up, and that's normal, so it's supposed to because
Speaker 2: you're up and moving and at that point you know
Speaker 2: your your body. But when you're spinning on like what
Speaker 2: do I gotta do today, and you don't have that
Speaker 2: morning ritual, and it's just chaos your alarm. First of all,
Speaker 2: let's start at the alarm, because I know some people
Speaker 2: can't help having to wake up to an alarm. I
Speaker 2: am very blessed these days that I don't. However, I'm
Speaker 2: still up in the five am hour at like work.
Speaker 2: It's my chronotype and I'm a morning person, and so
Speaker 2: I don't. Actually, my body wakes up when it needs
Speaker 2: to at the appropriate time. And if it wakes up,
Speaker 2: if my body wakes up late, I needed that sleep.
Speaker 2: So if at all possible, if you don't have to
Speaker 2: wake up to an alarm, don't, because what that alarm
Speaker 2: is doing is it's shocking your nervous I was.
Speaker 4: Just gonna say that I hate a lot yep.
Speaker 2: And then you have to take a BE complex, a
Speaker 2: methylated be complex, because you got to regulate your nervous
Speaker 2: system and with all of the blue light technology we have,
Speaker 2: the iPads, the cell phones, the all the things and stuff.
Speaker 2: Now I am a gadget girl. I literally just bought
Speaker 2: myself some meta sunglasses. I couldn't help it. I love gadgets.
Speaker 2: I had to. I had to see what they were like,
Speaker 2: the ray band ones, you know, they're so much fun.
Speaker 2: It's They're the simplest little things. But I'm having a
Speaker 2: grand old time with it. But we have so much
Speaker 2: blue light technology that that that cause it that. I
Speaker 2: love that you said that you don't do social media
Speaker 2: or anything like that in the morning, because when you
Speaker 2: start to poison yourself with that first thing in the morning,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, and you're already jacked from an alarm. Now
Speaker 2: you're gonna go give yourself some coffee, which already makes
Speaker 2: a lot of stemulant. You're just jacked before you even
Speaker 2: and then after that some people go and work out.
Speaker 2: Now you're seeing the domino and how we're piling on
Speaker 2: the activity that's causing this cortisol to be just stupid,
Speaker 2: stupid levels of cortisol, and your body actually can get
Speaker 2: to a point where it's sort of like an alcoholic
Speaker 2: in a way, like it gets used to the amount
Speaker 2: of cortisoult and it just keeps producing more and more
Speaker 2: and more and more and more, and then your body
Speaker 2: it's gonna take a lot more for your body to
Speaker 2: actually get to that point. So it seems that with
Speaker 2: a lot of our typical morning ritual behaviors, that is
Speaker 2: causing the stress load to start before you even get going,
Speaker 2: before you get to work, before any of that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. So I always tell people, start your day
Speaker 2: with something that you love to do. Don't tell me
Speaker 2: you just love to grab your phone and see, like
Speaker 2: what shit is on Facebook? Right?
Speaker 4: What can piss you off first thing in the morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or you can't wait to get jacked because you're
Speaker 2: an opinionated person and you have to see what somebody
Speaker 2: said about the you know, commander in chief.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm so right at this point.
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you right now, there's Once I
Speaker 2: got this under control, I started to discern what is
Speaker 2: distraction and what is something that I need to focus
Speaker 2: on doing well. Boy, then that took me down a notch,
Speaker 2: right because I stopped getting triggered and hooked by a
Speaker 2: shit that like is just a distraction. It means nothing.
Speaker 2: It means absolute, and so you know, I I think
Speaker 2: we have to so oxytocin. I'm going back to that hierarchy.
Speaker 2: Oxytocin is king if you don't keep oxytocin at the
Speaker 2: forefront doing things that you love to do. And I'm
Speaker 2: not talking necessarily about work, but you got to fit
Speaker 2: in some things like whether it's a hobby or something
Speaker 2: that you genuinely love to do. And if that's something
Speaker 2: that you're not doing, I will say, get make time
Speaker 2: for that too. And I have an example of that
Speaker 2: that I did as well. But you have to you
Speaker 2: have to be able to figure out what brings you joyce,
Speaker 2: so that so that not only are you lowering your cortisol,
Speaker 2: but you're spiking the oxytocin. So because oxytocin is first,
Speaker 2: then cortisol, and so cortisol can gain control really quickly
Speaker 2: because of its positioning in this right. And then the
Speaker 2: third one is insulin. Well, guess what insulin shrinks when
Speaker 2: cortisol is big.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say it's directly related to that. Yes,
Speaker 3: all of the people that have UH, pancreatic insufficiency, insolent intolerance,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah, all the new terminology out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just put a new label on it. But
Speaker 2: really it's because you're stressed, right, stress, honey, calm down,
Speaker 2: and you know you're not quite diabetic. They're not even
Speaker 2: gonna give you like the borderline diabetic. We're not going
Speaker 2: to put you on met foreman. I mean, god forbid
Speaker 2: you try burberine verst. But like before any of that,
Speaker 2: what it's doing is it's causing insulin resistance, which I
Speaker 2: was also starting to experience. I was starting to have
Speaker 2: all of the hormonal signs, all of the you know,
Speaker 2: every single sign. When I started digging at this, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, it's cortisol. And I being
Speaker 2: the type a person that I was, and I say
Speaker 2: it was because I kind of don't feel like I'm
Speaker 2: that way anymore. And I'm a virgo. I mean, like,
Speaker 2: if if anything, I like me a plan and I
Speaker 2: like to be organized. I like to know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: And I can still be that way, but be chilled out.
Speaker 2: You know, it's thunderstorm season where I live, and we
Speaker 2: get golf ball sized hail, and honestly, I can tell
Speaker 2: you I don't even care if it hits my car,
Speaker 2: and yet there's so many people that are freaking about
Speaker 2: where do I freaking out about where do I park
Speaker 2: my car? Oh my god, I have to get my car.
Speaker 2: And it's raining, it's raining, it might and I'm just like, well,
Speaker 2: I can't control that. Actually, I mean technically you can,
Speaker 2: but that's another podcast. But like, I don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: It's a car, and you know it's I don't care
Speaker 2: about the vehicle that I drive other than that it works.
Speaker 3: I mean, and you know that is that is like
Speaker 3: so key for a lot of people because they'll say,
Speaker 3: I'm not stressed out, but it's literally like you worry
Speaker 3: about everything. If you are a worri or a worry wart,
Speaker 3: yes you are, whether you realize it or not. Because
Speaker 3: you're worried about what to make for dinner, you worried
Speaker 3: about what other people think of you, You're worried about this,
Speaker 3: you're worried about that, and your Cortisol goes absolutely berserk.
Speaker 2: Yep yep, and it's killing you.
Speaker 4: Oh we're dumb stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh, we're dumb stuff. And that's I think you hit
Speaker 2: the nail on the head because at a certain point
Speaker 2: you and I was guilty of it too. I said,
Speaker 2: I'm not stressed out. I don't feel stressed out, And
Speaker 2: it's like I was used to being in that state
Speaker 2: at all times, so I didn't realize what stressed out was.
Speaker 2: Even though you couldn't pinch a trap to save my life.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was like cement in there, you know.
Speaker 2: And what I've noticed now is, and especially because I
Speaker 2: started a massage school, so I, you know, teaching it
Speaker 2: and showing other people, it's like, my muscles are way
Speaker 2: more pliable.
Speaker 4: They should be able to be needed, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Kate n e a d ed needed and mine weren't.
Speaker 2: They were rock hard, and not because I was ripped,
Speaker 2: because I was not. So I you know that that
Speaker 2: kind of is a dead giveaway. Where do you keep
Speaker 2: your tension? Where do you keep your stress? Most people
Speaker 2: lit's neck and shoulders right, and where are shoulders like earrings.
Speaker 2: I can't even wreize my shoulders as high as I
Speaker 2: used to before because I just I don't know. They
Speaker 2: just fall now.
Speaker 3: That's because you're calm, And that's that's the one thing
Speaker 3: I'm like about the workout. When you were talking about that,
Speaker 3: if if you literally look into fat burning and stuff
Speaker 3: like that it's a slower pace to actually burn fat,
Speaker 3: which people don't realize. So they get on the treadmill
Speaker 3: and they just absolutely gun it and they run and
Speaker 3: they've got it up to you know, four point eight
Speaker 3: or whatever, and they're just as fast as they can.
Speaker 3: That's not your fat burning face like at all, No
Speaker 3: walking is. And one, like you had mentioned, women more
Speaker 3: so than men. Women are so much more likely to
Speaker 3: have cortisol issues. And why because we are the nurturers, right,
Speaker 3: and so it is our job as people to constantly
Speaker 3: try to organize to you know, put things in order
Speaker 3: to worry about this person that person.
Speaker 4: Do the kids have lunch, do we have dinner?
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah, all these things, and then
Speaker 3: what if people do before they go work out. One
Speaker 3: of the things that it's super popular is supplementation before
Speaker 3: and after workouts, which also affects your freaking cortisol level. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: it's the stimulator of your cortisol which is going to
Speaker 3: leave you almost like you're still running on the treadmill
Speaker 3: even though you haven't been on the dreadmill for eight
Speaker 3: hours yep.
Speaker 2: And how much of that is placebo effect? Because I
Speaker 2: do pH testing in my practice, and if you are
Speaker 2: not at a proper balanced pH level internally, then supplements
Speaker 2: you're just peeing it out, that's all you're doing. And
Speaker 2: I heard this saying one time, where Americans have the
Speaker 2: most expensive PA and it's because we're cramin all these
Speaker 2: supplements down our bodies. We're not paying any attention to
Speaker 2: the fillers that are in them or whether they're actually
Speaker 2: effective and why are they effective. This is one of
Speaker 2: the reasons that I love quantum medicine so much, because
Speaker 2: that's what I do. Also is I'll just deliver you
Speaker 2: a frequency of a vitamin C I am printed into water,
Speaker 2: and I just make you drink some water to take
Speaker 2: your medicine, which is frequency imprinted into water molecules. And
Speaker 2: it's no different than having the actual substance, even though
Speaker 2: the substance, you know, eventually will just pee out of
Speaker 2: your body. The frequency you hold until your body can't
Speaker 2: sustain it, and then you either like optimize and come
Speaker 2: up to that level or you're gonna need another hit
Speaker 2: of it. So you know, there's something to be said
Speaker 2: for for However, many people, and a lot a lot
Speaker 2: of people old and new, have said it. The future
Speaker 2: of medicine is frequency, So calm down on the supplements too,
Speaker 2: Like you can muscle test yourself and figure out what
Speaker 2: supplements your body is really needing because our bodies don't.
Speaker 2: Our bodies are trying to tell us I don't need that,
Speaker 2: I don't need that, but we are not listening. We
Speaker 2: are not listening to what the body is saying. So
Speaker 2: I heard this recently. I don't know if you know
Speaker 2: who Dolores Cannon is. I really am loving her. Gosh,
Speaker 2: she's oh. I love listening to her stuff. But she
Speaker 2: even said one time, tell your body that you love it.
Speaker 2: Your body loves to hear that you love it. Tell
Speaker 2: your lip that you love it. Tell your organs that
Speaker 2: you love them, and you're There is something to be
Speaker 2: said about delivering the tone of your voice, your actual identity,
Speaker 2: the voice that you have, which is as unique as
Speaker 2: your fingerprint. Is right if you if you look at
Speaker 2: the frequency of everyone's voice, not one voice is the same.
Speaker 2: And your body resonates with what you tell it, and
Speaker 2: just like you're subconscious right, Well, tell your body that
Speaker 2: you love it. Tell your body that you appreciate what
Speaker 2: it does for you. And there is this Like a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't think that they're that that's a
Speaker 2: different thing. But you're you're a consciousness that's living in
Speaker 2: this That's what it is. Your your consciousness living in
Speaker 2: this body. So and this body is a living entity.
Speaker 2: So without your without your spirit in it, it's not
Speaker 2: you know, it obviously doesn't have the brain function, but
Speaker 2: it is serving you to be able to be on
Speaker 2: earth because we have to be able to breathe in
Speaker 2: this atmosphere, and that's what the carbon based system does,
Speaker 2: et cetera. But tell your body that you love it
Speaker 2: and that you appreciate what it does, and that's that's
Speaker 2: a better start than going, Huh, I'm going to go
Speaker 2: to Walmart and pick me up this giant jug of
Speaker 2: vitamin C.
Speaker 3: Mostly, you know, or people that constantly go, man, I
Speaker 3: have a headache. Man, my back hurts, man like everything hurts,
Speaker 3: and they focus on that and repeat it repeatedly, And
Speaker 3: what happens.
Speaker 4: Does it go away? No, it doesn't go away, gets worse, right.
Speaker 2: Because you're focusing on it constantly. What you focus on gross.
Speaker 2: And I heard a gal recently say that she had
Speaker 2: this random lower pain in her back and she said,
Speaker 2: I get that occasionally. And you know, normally I just
Speaker 2: send white light to the area in meditation and it
Speaker 2: typically will go away. And she said, but this time
Speaker 2: it wasn't really working, and I thought, hmm. So she said,
Speaker 2: I focused on the actual pain and like the sharpness
Speaker 2: of it, and I really I just kind of paid
Speaker 2: like supreme attention to it. And she said, it immediately left.
Speaker 2: And your body. And I tell this to people, to
Speaker 2: a lot of my clients, I don't have to be
Speaker 2: a psychic or a prophet. Your body keeps the score
Speaker 2: and I know how to read it if you know
Speaker 2: where your body stores things and what your body is saying,
Speaker 2: like when you have something specifically that is not an injury,
Speaker 2: but it hurts, right, So if you didn't injure your
Speaker 2: left knee and it hurts, that is a forgiveness issue
Speaker 2: that you have with a female person. And that part
Speaker 2: most people know who they need to forgive or what
Speaker 2: the issue is. And you should see their faces when
Speaker 2: I tell them that stuff. They look at me like,
Speaker 2: how on earth did you know that? And I'm like,
Speaker 2: but your body, your body's telling you. I am kind
Speaker 2: of like the translator right now telling me your body's
Speaker 2: been telling you this for it. We call it a
Speaker 2: body signal. Your body is signaling you now if you
Speaker 2: have pain, you have let it go too far. You
Speaker 2: have ignored your body for so long. Your body tells
Speaker 2: you every time if you just pay attention to it. Right, So, yeah,
Speaker 2: when you focus on oh well that hurts, that hurts wow,
Speaker 2: Or you go and try to numb it with the
Speaker 2: tailenol and the advil stuff, that wouldn't be the first
Speaker 2: thing I would grab for.
Speaker 4: In fact, it's saying I.
Speaker 2: Go to essential oils before I go to any of
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff unless it's like such a bad
Speaker 2: headache that's kind of running away from me, and that
Speaker 2: rarely happens. It just rarely, does you know. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we've got to start listening to our bodies more. Our
Speaker 2: bodies are they It's like, have you ever thought about
Speaker 2: how your body knows to just heal and it knows
Speaker 2: how to take care of you, and it knows how
Speaker 2: to produce what chemical to make you feel happy or
Speaker 2: whatever whatever you need in that moment. Your body produces
Speaker 2: it like that. Well, it is a very like omniscient
Speaker 2: sort of computer system, right, an organic system that's so
Speaker 2: have you ever wondered like, maybe my body knows more
Speaker 2: than me trying to.
Speaker 4: Force it one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Yes, force your body, you're causing inflammation, You're like making
Speaker 2: it do something against its will or ability. And so
Speaker 2: becoming one with yourself. I know that sounds really kind
Speaker 2: of like no, no.
Speaker 4: It doesn't.
Speaker 3: And let me say this before before you finish that thought. Like,
Speaker 3: for me, I cannot take naps. I have the worst
Speaker 3: time in the world ever taking a nap. And if
Speaker 3: I get to the point where I'm sitting in the
Speaker 3: chair trying to relax or something and I get uber sleepy,
Speaker 3: I will actually let my body take over and make
Speaker 3: me take a nap because I know my body's telling me, Hey,
Speaker 3: you have to you have to have this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 3: Restore and regenerate without whatever my body's telling me I need,
Speaker 3: whether it's peace and calm, whether it's he's shutting my
Speaker 3: phone off for a couple hours so nobody bothers me,
Speaker 3: or whatever whatever it is.
Speaker 4: I always have to listen to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have to become one with your body,
Speaker 2: as weird as that might sound, but what that looks
Speaker 2: like is getting in tune with your consciousness. And like
Speaker 2: we have this separation issue right now where people think
Speaker 2: God or the higher Power, whatever they want to call it,
Speaker 2: is outside of us. Well, I'm sorry to tell you,
Speaker 2: but it's part of you. You are it. You are source.
Speaker 2: I call it Gus now, God, Universe source. You know,
Speaker 2: you are a fractionated image of Gus. And it's like
Speaker 2: God had a thought and you became He like mad
Speaker 2: made it into you. And so he's in you. He's
Speaker 2: the interstitial spaces between your cells and your lungs. He's
Speaker 2: the breath of your lungs. Right, So you're not separated
Speaker 2: from him. You don't You're not a sinner and you
Speaker 2: don't like have to. You're not a bad person, is
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say. Like we were taught that
Speaker 2: for so long. You're not bad and you're and he's
Speaker 2: not going, okay, now I'm I'm pushing away from you
Speaker 2: because you were naughty. Now that's just not how it works.
Speaker 2: You are him. You are him, and you're just an
Speaker 2: infinite different face that he has like made himself into
Speaker 2: so that he could have this human experience. I have
Speaker 2: found so much gratitude lately for being in this human experience.
Speaker 2: It's for the suffering that.
Speaker 4: We go through, for the hunting through.
Speaker 2: It's like, nowhere else in the universe do they have
Speaker 2: the duality that we have on the Earth, where it's
Speaker 2: there's suffering, but there's supreme joy and there's light and
Speaker 2: there's dark, and we get to experience it all. But
Speaker 2: we're here to learn. It's like kind of getting our
Speaker 2: PhD or our yeah, our PhD and spirituality. Really we're
Speaker 2: here to figure out these these wonderful lessons, but in
Speaker 2: such a way that like it makes it tough. It's
Speaker 2: almost like we did it on purpose because it's the
Speaker 2: hardest school ever.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm a bit of a school addict, and I
Speaker 2: you know, I'm getting my PhD. But then I couldn't
Speaker 2: stop there. I had to create a school too. I'm justased,
Speaker 2: but I love learning.
Speaker 4: I can't sit still. Personality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and as far as my my knowledge, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever heard of human design,
Speaker 2: but my human design personality is knowledge and truth. So
Speaker 2: I it's what brings me joy is to study and
Speaker 2: to learn and then to share it with people and
Speaker 2: to teach what I'm doing. And so I that that's
Speaker 2: all I want to do, and and I can feel truth.
Speaker 2: I can actually feel truth as a frequency that I
Speaker 2: know when it resonates in a certain place in my body,
Speaker 2: which it's right in the fear center, the sacral, which
Speaker 2: is your fear center and mine it doesn't have much
Speaker 2: fear these days, but that's where truth resonates hard. So
Speaker 2: I can I know when I'm on the right track
Speaker 2: with something, right. So you know, it's it's all about learning,
Speaker 2: it's all about being ingratitude. But you got to listen
Speaker 2: to your body. Your body's telling you everything. You don't
Speaker 2: have to suffer to the point where it can't be helped.
Speaker 2: You ultimately have control over your entire situation. You are
Speaker 2: happening to this reality versus your external circumstances happening to you, right.
Speaker 3: And you know the funny thing about that is that
Speaker 3: so many people feel like they're like imprisoned or locked in,
Speaker 3: like this is my life and this is the way
Speaker 3: it's going.
Speaker 4: To be you always. You have free will.
Speaker 3: You have the option to make those difficult choices to
Speaker 3: change jobs to you know, cut off somebody that is
Speaker 3: sucking the life out of you, or you know whatever.
Speaker 3: All of those choices are on the table for you.
Speaker 2: You just have to have that.
Speaker 3: Discernment and bravery to decide you're going to make those
Speaker 3: choices and to do something different. If it's not working,
Speaker 3: stop doing it.
Speaker 4: Why beat your.
Speaker 3: Head against the wall every single day? And so many
Speaker 3: people like work and finances.
Speaker 4: Are a huge thing, especially with the Cortisol.
Speaker 3: They hate their job so much that when they pull
Speaker 3: into the parking lot, they get physically sick, they feel
Speaker 3: like they're going to vomit.
Speaker 4: What do you think that is?
Speaker 3: That is Cortisol telling you, you know what, I hate
Speaker 3: this job.
Speaker 2: It can I share a story that just recently happened
Speaker 2: to me, and this, just like you said, this is
Speaker 2: attached to both finances in the Cortisol situation. And I've
Speaker 2: been in positions before where I should have learned the
Speaker 2: lesson because my head neew, my head knew the knowledge,
Speaker 2: but it hadn't, you know, like become coherent with the
Speaker 2: heart space yet. And that's typically for me.
Speaker 3: How it happens like I know you're you're loyal, And
Speaker 3: I think that's what a lot of people's issue is.
Speaker 3: They can't leave a job that they hate because they're loyal.
Speaker 2: Yep. And at this point it had become abusive. So
Speaker 2: I got back from Japan on April fifth, and about
Speaker 2: six weeks later, I had not had one day off
Speaker 2: of work. They were making me work from sun up
Speaker 2: to sundown essentially and putting all the responsibility on me.
Speaker 2: I finally came to my senses and I said, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this anymore. And I actually walked away
Speaker 2: from the job and with nothing like I don't have
Speaker 2: this amazing savings plan and all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I just knew, well, I better get to work fast
Speaker 2: and figure it out because I need to figure out
Speaker 2: my finances. So now I jump from one stressful situation
Speaker 2: kind of into another because now I have no money
Speaker 2: coming in and I have to produce that and I
Speaker 2: have to figure it out. So what are my skills?
Speaker 2: And I think, okay, I'm going to start a massage
Speaker 2: school because the tuition money pretty much comes upfront, and
Speaker 2: I just think to secure enough to get me through
Speaker 2: the rest of the year. The program is a six
Speaker 2: month program, not a problem. I can do this. I
Speaker 2: figure out how many students I need. My head noodles
Speaker 2: out every last detail of it. I start advertising for
Speaker 2: students and I got two but I needed at least four,
Speaker 2: if not five, maybe six, but four was kind of
Speaker 2: that sweet spot number for me. So I've been really
Speaker 2: working on how I speak. So rather than saying I need,
Speaker 2: I want, I'm saying I am ready now to have
Speaker 2: a fourth student. I'm ready now to have that third
Speaker 2: student show up. So nothing seemed to be breaking loose.
Speaker 2: I was getting frustrated by the second. I'm like, what
Speaker 2: have I done? I've done this again?
Speaker 4: What was I thinking?
Speaker 2: And so now I'm stressed out because I can't strive
Speaker 2: enough to force this whole situation. So I am very
Speaker 2: connected to the universe, and I I remember like so
Speaker 2: I always talk like God has these conversations with me,
Speaker 2: and he's quite sarcastic with me, because that's he and
Speaker 2: me both.
Speaker 4: He's like, okay, now I'm a bed listener at times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think sometimes he just laughs at me
Speaker 2: because it's so terrible to me. But he's probably just
Speaker 2: laughing at me because it's like, well, she won't let go.
Speaker 2: When she lets go, I'll take care of this. So
Speaker 2: I got finally got to this place where I couldn't
Speaker 2: noodle it out anymore. And I'm a smart cookie, like
Speaker 2: I could not figure out my next move, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: the clock is ticking. I don't know what to do here.
Speaker 2: So finally I said, I am ready now for whatever
Speaker 2: you provide for me. And it became this like sort
Speaker 2: of I remember it was not long ago. It was
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, and I just was like
Speaker 2: in this, I got humbled, and I finally I said,
Speaker 2: you know what, I surrender. I know that I know
Speaker 2: what lesson. I knew what lesson I was trying he
Speaker 2: was trying to teach me. I knew what lesson I
Speaker 2: was in the middle of. And that's what most people
Speaker 2: don't know, is what do you want me to get
Speaker 2: from this? Well? I knew, and you know, I even
Speaker 2: tried reasoning with him. I said, listen, you created me
Speaker 2: a virgo. Why would you do that if you were
Speaker 2: going to make the eleven hours to show up, because
Speaker 2: us virgos don't like the last minute kind of thing.
Speaker 2: We want to know ahead of time. Am I going
Speaker 2: to be secure or not? Right? And a couple of
Speaker 2: friends I said that too. They were like, Shannon, you
Speaker 2: do not get to tell that to God. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: but come on, I mean, he knew I was a virgo, Like,
Speaker 2: how was that fair? And I said, but I get
Speaker 2: it fine. Whatever. So after I pitched my fit, I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I'm done fighting. I have no energy
Speaker 2: left to fight this. I can't do this by myself,
Speaker 2: so I surrender. I know that you're trying to put
Speaker 2: me through it, so because the only way out of
Speaker 2: it is through it. So I am open and ready
Speaker 2: for whatever you have for me now, and wait until
Speaker 2: you hear what happened. I don't even think it was.
Speaker 2: Two days later, I am at my office. I have
Speaker 2: a biocharger machine and I had a client sitting at
Speaker 2: that machine with me, and we were chatting about everything
Speaker 2: except my business. And she said, hey, whatever happened to
Speaker 2: that one student you had that was interested in coming?
Speaker 2: Did she ever get her financing? And I said no,
Speaker 2: but I got to check in just to be sure.
Speaker 2: She would have been my third student and I really
Speaker 2: really really needed it. And this lady says, well, I
Speaker 2: would like to finance her. And I said what, and
Speaker 2: she's like, and I might even start crying, and I
Speaker 2: hope not, because I've told this story enough. But man,
Speaker 2: it gets me every time because that second, that you
Speaker 2: let go.
Speaker 3: Right second you let everything good comes.
Speaker 2: He shows up, but not just like here's some money
Speaker 2: for you. It's he shows up in a major way
Speaker 2: and he shows you how it's done with flair. And
Speaker 2: she says, I want to finance this student for you.
Speaker 2: And I was like, are you kidding me? And so
Speaker 2: I got to be the person to call that student
Speaker 2: and say somebody has stepped forward because a bank wouldn't
Speaker 2: secure her alone. Her credit score wasn't good enough. And
Speaker 2: this lady said to me, she said, I believe that
Speaker 2: in order to heal this world, we need to be
Speaker 2: doing this kind of stuff for other people. Do something
Speaker 2: good with her massage, and I believe in her and
Speaker 2: I want to help her. And I'm like, this is insane.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't even believe how perfectly this happened.
Speaker 2: And the second that I let go and was like, hey,
Speaker 2: do it for me because I can't write. But I
Speaker 2: let go, there was no cortisol. I wasn't still stressed.
Speaker 2: I literally stopped thinking about it for a couple of days.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, I'm testing the theory right like.
Speaker 2: And that's the one area in scripture that he says
Speaker 2: to testament. Just if I won't open the floodgates for
Speaker 2: you when you let me have the control of this
Speaker 2: right so and so right, so, then it gets better.
Speaker 2: I'm flying high. My daughter had just come home for
Speaker 2: a quick visit because my son was graduating high school,
Speaker 2: and we went to Costco and I was buying a
Speaker 2: water thing for the office, and I'm telling her this story,
Speaker 2: and I'm of course like crying my pansy ass off
Speaker 2: in Costco because it's so like moving to me. And
Speaker 2: I think it happened, and I can't believe I was
Speaker 2: part of it. It was amazing. And I get this
Speaker 2: text from a woman who she's my colonics lady actually,
Speaker 2: and her daughter had had a bad experience in a
Speaker 2: previous massage school and never finished and she always wanted
Speaker 2: to go back and finish well. I had asked her.
Speaker 2: I reached out to her twice and she told me no,
Speaker 2: her daughter wasn't interested and couldn't do it. Well. Here,
Speaker 2: I am flying high from this third student thing, and
Speaker 2: that lady called that lady texts me she's like, my
Speaker 2: daughter wants to do school? Is it too late? And
Speaker 2: I said no, So I get on the horn with
Speaker 2: our daughter. That day, she goes and gets herself alone,
Speaker 2: and I have a fourth student. So then I'm like, even,
Speaker 2: I'm flying even higher at this point. Right and We're
Speaker 2: at home and I'm fixing my lunch and I said, well,
Speaker 2: I'm open and ready for a fifth one if you listen,
Speaker 2: you know, And I was like just stoked. That lady
Speaker 2: texts back and she says, this lady I work with,
Speaker 2: she wants her son to take the massage school too.
Speaker 2: Is that okay? Can I give her your info? And
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yes, and she she actually didn't end
Speaker 2: up reaching out to me, but just like right after
Speaker 2: I go I'll take a fifth another potential opportunity showed up.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, I'm getting this now, like I'm
Speaker 2: getting it. But the thing is is I think what
Speaker 2: it took was me to humble myself and say, look,
Speaker 2: I know that this lesson is one of the hardest
Speaker 2: ones for me because I grew up in a poverty
Speaker 2: mindset and very very scarcity mindset, and that is probably
Speaker 2: worse than Candida trying to get rid of is that
Speaker 2: lack scarcity mentality, And so I knew it was a
Speaker 2: big lesson for me. I knew it was a huge one,
Speaker 2: and so I finally was like, you know what, as
Speaker 2: painful as this might be for me, I accept. I
Speaker 2: accept going through this. Whatever you're gonna do, whatever is
Speaker 2: gonna happen, because I know that it's only meant for
Speaker 2: my good, It's only meant for my highest good and
Speaker 2: I and I, so let's go, let's do this. But
Speaker 2: you don't like to do hard things.
Speaker 3: Everybody that I know that calls me to talk about
Speaker 3: their problems, that is the main thing is the control,
Speaker 3: and can't give up control. And you have to control
Speaker 3: everything in your household, and you have to control how
Speaker 3: people act, and you have to everybody has to do
Speaker 3: everything the way that you would do it and whatever.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you are creating so much undue stress
Speaker 3: in your body, hence the chaos going on in your system,
Speaker 3: and you're feeling all these kind of ways because you
Speaker 3: can't stop to think that that letting go of that
Speaker 3: is going to make things better. Because when you are
Speaker 3: trying to control everything, you make terrible decisions.
Speaker 4: Yep, everybody does.
Speaker 3: And it's like, I'm going to control how my husband
Speaker 3: talks to his daughter. I'm going to control her behavior
Speaker 3: with me.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make.
Speaker 3: People respect me regardless. You cannot have that control over
Speaker 3: other people and expect your life to be sunshine and rainbows.
Speaker 3: You have to let go of that and you have
Speaker 3: to let God come in. I call it divine interceding
Speaker 3: because when that happens, he does show up and he
Speaker 3: does things that we could not even fathom.
Speaker 2: Better than way better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like we don't have the capacity and our tiny
Speaker 3: little brains, And so was he moving you all along
Speaker 3: in this direction for this particular purpose.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but some sometimes I'm not not calling you out.
Speaker 3: Some of us are very stubborn and very hard to hit,
Speaker 3: and it's like, I want things my way, and I
Speaker 3: have to like plan all of this. But the best
Speaker 3: moments from God are things that we could not possibly plan,
Speaker 3: and him moving us wherever.
Speaker 2: A year ago, I left a six figure income to
Speaker 2: go into business for myself because wellness, natural wellness has
Speaker 2: always been my thing. And by June, that was January
Speaker 2: to June, I had no business. It wasn't working out.
Speaker 2: And rather than let go and let God, as they say,
Speaker 2: I knee jerked and I went and got a day job.
Speaker 2: And then I said to myself what most people say, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'll work on it in the evenings and I'll still
Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to continue to do it.
Speaker 4: But that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: I didn't because I got so I was a salaried position,
Speaker 2: and I got so wrapped up into like working overtime,
Speaker 2: doing more and more and more and more, that there's
Speaker 2: no boundaries you can set when you're when you are salaried.
Speaker 2: And so he had set it all up for me before,
Speaker 2: and I was like, no, I want to go back
Speaker 2: to the safety of this paycheck, which isn't safety at all.
Speaker 2: That's the big thing. It's not safety at all.
Speaker 4: That's your stressor.
Speaker 3: That's a big stressor, because again you're letting somebody else control.
Speaker 4: Your life and your mood and your daily outcomes.
Speaker 2: Right, And so I think for me, I don't. I
Speaker 2: couldn't tell you if what I'm doing right now is
Speaker 2: what I was meant to do. Maybe it's the way
Speaker 2: I was supposed to start doing what I'm meant to do.
Speaker 2: It's definitely within the natural wellness realm. However, what I
Speaker 2: think it was more about for me was the lesson
Speaker 2: because you're going to keep repeating things until you can
Speaker 2: figure out the lesson. But I can tell you with
Speaker 2: my last child in the throes of graduating, like weeks
Speaker 2: away from graduating, my daughter living in an other country
Speaker 2: halfway around the world that have active volcanoes and tsunamis,
Speaker 2: and I had to get her home for a five
Speaker 2: day stint. Your brother graduate and I walked away from
Speaker 2: the job, started my own job. I had my fair
Speaker 2: amount of stress. I had my fair amount of stress. Also,
Speaker 2: what we don't talk about and probably should is all
Speaker 2: of us whose last child or only child or whatever
Speaker 2: he was, my last one is now graduating, and your
Speaker 2: brain has to go through a chemical change there that
Speaker 2: has been happening for the past year where I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh god, what am I gonna do when they're gone?
Speaker 2: Oh God, what am I going to do when I
Speaker 2: don't have to like do this day to day stuff
Speaker 2: with them anymore. That's a real thing, right, And they're
Speaker 2: gonna both live with me while they go to college,
Speaker 2: So I'm not technically an empty nester. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, they're not in the same need that they
Speaker 2: were in when you know, I was supposed to get
Speaker 2: them through. So I had my amount of stress in
Speaker 2: the past two months, and what it took and what
Speaker 2: moved it faster than I've ever seen in my life
Speaker 2: is just letting go.
Speaker 4: Yep, letting go.
Speaker 2: And this is a little zippy and unexpected twist of irony.
Speaker 2: My son just got the part of Olaf in Frozen
Speaker 2: at the local community theater here and let it Go
Speaker 2: as the main song of that. So I think that's
Speaker 2: just kind of fricking.
Speaker 4: That's that's a god laughing at you, going, man, that's.
Speaker 2: How it rolls. Yeah, and my son is literally like
Speaker 2: the happy character, like the snowman the dark, you know,
Speaker 2: so that I just now thought of that. That's hysterical,
Speaker 2: but it's I'm telling you, like ever since that moment,
Speaker 2: it changed me. And that's what that's the perfect thing
Speaker 2: that happens too, is when you can release that. Because
Speaker 2: my cortosol levels, apart from that day job I had,
Speaker 2: I've started to feel them get high again because I
Speaker 2: I could tell the difference. I had had them under control,
Speaker 2: and then this day job was getting out of control
Speaker 2: right and I was starting to feel myself real again,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh man, I got to get
Speaker 2: back on top of this because I don't want my
Speaker 2: health going downhill. So all of this stuff ensues, and
Speaker 2: now I can tell you I wake up every day
Speaker 2: just so grateful to be awake and alive and ready
Speaker 2: for the day. I say, thank you for this day.
Speaker 2: What's my assignment today? What do you have for me today?
Speaker 2: Because this shit's fun. Now, man, I'm like, okay, last
Speaker 2: time I said whatever you bring it, and you did
Speaker 2: well listen heard Yeah, So now I'm like, okay, now
Speaker 2: who can I touch today? Who can I heal today?
Speaker 2: Who can I help and minister to? Or what's next?
Speaker 2: You know? What have we got going on today? But
Speaker 2: what's really cool is like the lesson that you learn
Speaker 2: in the meantime once all of this, because I don't
Speaker 2: think I could have learned it with my cortisol all jacked.
Speaker 4: Up, right, because you don't think straight when that happens.
Speaker 2: Right, And typically it actually happens in the unseen realm
Speaker 2: around us, the biofield, before it hits the physical body.
Speaker 2: So those But but the thing is is what happens
Speaker 2: to us happened here first. So it's it's like it
Speaker 2: from any disharmony that I had up here that went
Speaker 2: out and attracted disharmony to come back to me, and
Speaker 2: I would say that that's also what stress does.
Speaker 4: This is the part.
Speaker 2: Nobody's talking about either, unless you're a quantum doctor, you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, listen, you are getting what you are
Speaker 2: putting out into that absolute frequency is going out there
Speaker 2: and picking out its match and bringing it back to you.
Speaker 2: And I know that that's a trigger warning for a
Speaker 2: lot of people. They're going to be like, well, you
Speaker 2: think that I'm causing all of this? Yeah, yes, I
Speaker 2: actually do. And I will tell you I have cause
Speaker 2: all of the stuff around me and my world too,
Speaker 2: and it is a mirror and other people are mirrors
Speaker 2: to me into a douche. I have to look at me.
Speaker 2: Was I a douche? Because that is a reflection of me?
Speaker 2: Rarely is it just some random happenstance that you're having
Speaker 2: an actual interaction with a person that is negative that
Speaker 2: you did not somehow push out in your you know,
Speaker 2: if you're like, h, I don't like today, that you know,
Speaker 2: and if you get all in your feels, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying don't feel the feels, but you are going to
Speaker 2: attract that energy back, right, except that if your energy
Speaker 2: is cortisol energy, you're gonna be in chaos just.
Speaker 3: And it's perfect that you said that, because, like I
Speaker 3: said that, a lot of people that I talked to
Speaker 3: throughout the day that have the control issues and stuff,
Speaker 3: they're grumpy, they're angry, they're always stressed out, and it's like,
Speaker 3: remember about this person and maybe about that person, and
Speaker 3: I hate this and I hate that and I feel
Speaker 3: like crap and blah blah blah, and then they wonder
Speaker 3: why their life is literal chaos Yep all the time. Yep,
Speaker 3: it's because when what's the last time that you had
Speaker 3: a positive, good thought that you put out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, or even about yourself, because if you're not thinking
Speaker 2: your body, you're hating on it, calling yourself stupid, calling
Speaker 2: yourself an idiot. Like how I hear that so much?
Speaker 2: Like it's starting to like really bug me now when
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, I'm such a and I don't
Speaker 2: even like to say it. For phaxies. If somebody says
Speaker 2: that that phrase, I say, no, you're not, stop that,
Speaker 2: Like that's just a distraction. Knock that off.
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny that you said that, because my
Speaker 3: favorite thing to say is that I'm tech retarded, But
Speaker 3: now I say I'm tech challenged.
Speaker 4: And I would honest I'm a work in progress.
Speaker 2: I would honestly, Janet, I would honestly flip it and say,
Speaker 2: I'm a tech genius.
Speaker 3: Go, yeah, but like I have been lately, which is
Speaker 3: impressive and why because I changed how I was approaching that.
Speaker 4: And then I'm like doing things that I'm like, I
Speaker 4: had no.
Speaker 3: Idea I could ever do that. Yeah, Oh wow, that
Speaker 3: was cool. Let me try those too.
Speaker 2: No, I can't find something. I will go to where
Speaker 2: I just have this gut intuition telling me where it's at.
Speaker 2: And I walk in that room and I go, I
Speaker 2: know where it is. I know where it is, and
Speaker 2: I just start saying it like with conviction, like I
Speaker 2: know where this is. I know where I put that,
Speaker 2: instead of like where is it? Oh my god, ah,
Speaker 2: because I know I didn't lose it. I just put
Speaker 2: it somewhere that I couldn't remember. And so I start
Speaker 2: to come in and I go, I remember what I
Speaker 2: did with it, And seeing that positive phrase has like
Speaker 2: I've recovered it every time quickly quickly, because it's like
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I'll have the full on memory
Speaker 2: of how it got where it was, and I'm like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 5: I put it there because because I thought that I
Speaker 5: would absolutely remember where this was because I was going
Speaker 5: to go get sweetener or whatever.
Speaker 2: And so now I genuinely have changed how I say things.
Speaker 2: So I try to really take stock of if I'm
Speaker 2: saying need or want, because that denotes lack and you know,
Speaker 2: growing up in that that's just what I was taught
Speaker 2: to say. But if you want to truly walk in abundance,
Speaker 2: you have to take captive every thought and every word,
Speaker 2: because your deeds will follow. Your actions will then follow.
Speaker 2: And I would say that that's probably the number one
Speaker 2: spot to start, is you know what is stressing you out?
Speaker 2: You've got to take stock of what your thoughts are.
Speaker 2: If your thoughts are in fear of your boss, your job,
Speaker 2: the money, the health, whatever, everything that could.
Speaker 3: Affect you in the outside world that you cannot control.
Speaker 2: Right, then you have to like start logic. And that's
Speaker 2: what I had to do with myself, is I had
Speaker 2: to say, wait a second, does this even make sense?
Speaker 2: Let's let's look at it. Can I control this? No?
Speaker 2: All right, well crap, why do I want to Why
Speaker 2: do I want to hold onto it so bad? Why
Speaker 2: do you know what is it that I've got that's
Speaker 2: connecting me so strongly to it? And why do I care?
Speaker 2: And when I really ask myself the proper questions, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's dumb, okay, and well.
Speaker 3: And to that point, a lot of people that have
Speaker 3: like the the need or ambition to control things. It's
Speaker 3: a protective mechanism, yes, And so it relates back to
Speaker 3: you know, a trauma or you know, not having food
Speaker 3: or something like that. And so that's what it emotionally,
Speaker 3: subconsciously triggers as to like have to have that need
Speaker 3: to control everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just think when we can let ourselves
Speaker 2: off the hook, and we can, we can genuinely say like,
Speaker 2: I don't need that control that is that is too
Speaker 2: much energy. I don't have time, nor do I want
Speaker 2: to hold that. The other thing that I have been
Speaker 2: trying to go through is I've been try. I don't
Speaker 2: even want to say try because Yoda goes through my head,
Speaker 2: right do or do not? I am tired of the protections.
Speaker 2: I'm tired of myself protecting myself. I get it, I
Speaker 2: get why she needed to do that for the younger self,
Speaker 2: but right now I want to get raw. I want
Speaker 2: to let it all out. I want to get out
Speaker 2: the ugly. I want to go through that hard stuff
Speaker 2: because there is nothing but healing on the other side
Speaker 2: of that. And how can I help heal others if
Speaker 2: I'm not completely and I don't have to be like
Speaker 2: a you know, completely transfigured person in order to help somebody.
Speaker 2: I get that because we help people that are going
Speaker 2: through what we've just been through. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: it's like, I mean, I expect some high level shit
Speaker 2: out of myself, and by that I mean, and I
Speaker 2: say this a lot, this is actually how I would
Speaker 2: love to get before I exit this planet. But in
Speaker 2: the Bible, when Peter is walking past the man that's
Speaker 2: asking for alms and his shot, his shadow heals the man.
Speaker 2: It wasn't his shadow because it was a sunny day.
Speaker 2: It was his biofield. It was his aura. His aura
Speaker 2: was so high vibing that just in walking past this
Speaker 2: man that healed him. And Peter said to him, silver
Speaker 2: and gold have I none, But what I do have
Speaker 2: I give freely, and I that is what I want.
Speaker 2: I am ready. Well, I would like to say I'm ready,
Speaker 2: but I know I have some lessons, So I'm going to.
Speaker 4: Say, I am ready now in progress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am ready now for that to take place.
Speaker 2: Anytime where I just walk past somebody and my unconditional
Speaker 2: love and gratitude just for all things is so high
Speaker 2: amped that it heals people just me walking past them,
Speaker 2: that that is such a beautiful thing to me. So
Speaker 2: that's my ultimate goal spiritually speaking. So I'm like, what
Speaker 2: do I have to lose. I'm ready to let this
Speaker 2: get ugly if it needs to, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I also, this is an interesting thing, not completely on topic,
Speaker 2: but I thought it was interesting when you take your
Speaker 2: birth day, like the month and the day and the
Speaker 2: current year in numerology, you kind of get it down
Speaker 2: to where it's like a single digit between one and nine.
Speaker 2: There's and I don't know all of them, but I
Speaker 2: heard this gal talking about if you're in a nine year,
Speaker 2: which is a this is a nine year for me,
Speaker 2: you're actually going through a death and rebirth process. And
Speaker 2: that I was like, my mouth was open. I was
Speaker 2: on a walk and my mouth just draws open because
Speaker 2: I have already recognized that I am going through my
Speaker 2: rebirthing process now because I'm divorce a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: Like was the death, and I have been in that
Speaker 2: process of trying to like rise from the ashes. I
Speaker 2: didn't expect it to take as long as it did
Speaker 2: because it wasn't the person that I missed. It was
Speaker 2: the reinvention of who I was because I was with
Speaker 2: him for so long, and now it's like, who am
Speaker 2: I really? Who do I want to be? I get
Speaker 2: to create this person. I get to love me because
Speaker 2: it wasn't possible, you know, and I was seeking it
Speaker 2: from him, which I never should have. So there has
Speaker 2: been so many like awesome things I've learned about myself
Speaker 2: and how to love myself truly. And so I am
Speaker 2: currently in my rebirth year, which I thought was so cool.
Speaker 2: And you can google this, So yeah, you just take
Speaker 2: like if my birthday month is September, so zero nine
Speaker 2: is a nine, then the sixteenth is nine plus one
Speaker 2: plus six, which is sixteen, and then and that you
Speaker 2: add the numbers of the twenty two or twenty twenty five, right,
Speaker 2: and then you add the you keep adding all of
Speaker 2: the digits until you get the single one. And so
Speaker 2: what whatever process you're in, there's I think three or
Speaker 2: six is the year of creativity where you're just making
Speaker 2: stuff and.
Speaker 4: You're that's definitely me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so cool, So we'll do it. And I don't know,
Speaker 2: like I don't know what people believe or think about
Speaker 2: that stuff, but I just thought, huh, that is I.
Speaker 3: Would say, I would say that's pretty spot on because
Speaker 3: not only are you figuring out who you are as
Speaker 3: a person, but look at the lesson that you just learned.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying that, Like Kay has
Speaker 3: been trying to teach you for a really long time,
Speaker 3: but we are bad listeners sometimes and he could literally
Speaker 3: hit us over the head with a frying pan and
Speaker 3: we're still like, Nope, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to do that. By way better, I
Speaker 4: know better, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so for the cortisol, like we talked about it,
Speaker 3: you got to get your stress under control and follow
Speaker 3: the daily routine, get good sleep, all of that stuff.
Speaker 3: But what does it do to your metabolism? How does
Speaker 3: it affect your metabolism?
Speaker 2: So when we got to go back to that hormonal
Speaker 2: hierarchy and look at how it is above insulin. So
Speaker 2: when cortisol is in large amounts, it will slow insulin down.
Speaker 2: So what does insulin do? We know, insulin comes from
Speaker 2: the pancreas and it regulates our blood sugar levels. So
Speaker 2: if you eat a bagel which is higher around the
Speaker 2: glycemic index, it will help that to slowly process into
Speaker 2: your blood. So I mean some people get a spike
Speaker 2: and then a rapid drop. Blood sugars aren't stable and level.
Speaker 2: But if you are not producing enough insulin to take
Speaker 2: care of the amount or the type of food that
Speaker 2: you're eating, then your body's just going to go into
Speaker 2: storage mode because it doesn't know what to do with
Speaker 2: it or how to process it properly. So that ends
Speaker 2: up causing the weight gain after a while. Is it's
Speaker 2: trumping that insulin because in the hormonal hierarchy, it's above it.
Speaker 2: If you can keep your cortisol level where it should
Speaker 2: be everything and only active when it should be, then
Speaker 2: it doesn't interfere with insulin. So there's a couple of
Speaker 2: ways that you can work to reduce it if that's
Speaker 2: the case. And I know this is strangely a hot
Speaker 2: topic now, but I mean it is an ancient thing
Speaker 2: that people have always done for tail as old as
Speaker 2: time is intermitt and fasting. Our bodies are not meant
Speaker 2: to eat all day long, and the Bible is chuck
Speaker 2: full of instances of fasting, especially if you want higher
Speaker 2: spirituality and all of that kind of stuff. But if
Speaker 2: you really think about what it does for your body,
Speaker 2: your entire body, especially on twenty four hour fasts, you
Speaker 2: get into autophagy and you're basically what happens is your
Speaker 2: body starts to turn on the bad cells within it,
Speaker 2: and it starts to eat up the bad cells, and
Speaker 2: your cells then restore it in a higher state because
Speaker 2: it's not constantly being overloaded and bombarded with that food
Speaker 2: that you're putting in there. If your if your insulin
Speaker 2: is not if your pancreas is not creating enough insulin
Speaker 2: to handle the amount or the type of food you're eating,
Speaker 2: that needs to be The first thing that you control
Speaker 2: is timing, Like what do I really need to eat?
Speaker 2: What should I be eating? Should it be sugar is
Speaker 2: not the answer? Right?
Speaker 6: And no, our alcohol which is foods right, because most
Speaker 6: all of it I could go sugar, sugar carbs, right,
Speaker 6: It all kind of you know, reduces down to sugar
Speaker 6: and that causes inflammation.
Speaker 2: Then you know there's gonna be people that are like,
Speaker 2: but what about that good carbs. Well, I'm not entirely
Speaker 2: convinced anymore that the grain good. The good carbs that
Speaker 2: are grain like brown rice and regular rice, I think
Speaker 2: once in a blue moon is okay. But the carbs
Speaker 2: I'm talking about that are good are gonna be uh,
Speaker 2: grapefruit and the carby sort of vegetables that grow from
Speaker 2: the earth. Those are the true good carbs that are
Speaker 2: going to serve your body a lot better. And so
Speaker 2: when your body is getting the proper amount of nutrition,
Speaker 2: those carbs are not gonna spike the glycemic index, right
Speaker 2: The bagel carbs will, the even quin wa carbs will
Speaker 2: spike the glycemic index point. So I've really kind of
Speaker 2: taken that into consideration, and I don't eat that stuff
Speaker 2: as often as I used to. I'm currently following an
Speaker 2: eating plan that wraps all this up together, and it's
Speaker 2: you know, inner and fasting mixed with only eating protein,
Speaker 2: fruit and vegetables. That's it, not even oils or fats.
Speaker 2: And I've lost thirteen pounds in like twenty days. So
Speaker 2: that's the other thing that they tell us is that
Speaker 2: it's not healthy to lose weight fast. Well, it's not true.
Speaker 2: That's a lie. And what the misnomer is here, is
Speaker 2: that human beings think, oh I can get fast weight
Speaker 2: loss and just go right back to what I was
Speaker 2: doing before, and.
Speaker 4: I should be funey can't.
Speaker 2: No, you can't. And the thing is is like the
Speaker 2: fast weight loss doesn't give you enough time to change this,
Speaker 2: and your brain is not changing and saying, Okay, this
Speaker 2: needs to be how I am now. And the older
Speaker 2: we get, the less food we need and the less
Speaker 2: heavy dense foods that we need. But again, you know,
Speaker 2: I know everybody's like, but I want it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: But the thing is is, and I'm not saying don't
Speaker 2: enjoy food. I'm just saying we get so attached to food, right,
Speaker 2: it goes beyond emotional eating. It's like everybody. If anybody
Speaker 2: says to me like, oh I just can't give up
Speaker 2: my you know, my crembreulet after whatever dinner, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 2: you're emotionally attached to food. And it has nothing any
Speaker 2: food person that tells me they're a foodie unless it's
Speaker 2: like for the sheer benefit of your your earth suit
Speaker 2: to survive and be you know, have enough nutrition, then
Speaker 2: you are emotionally attached to food because it is if
Speaker 2: you can like intermittent fast for well, I only eat
Speaker 2: between twelve and eight during the day, and I can
Speaker 2: tell you that my stomach definitely about an hour and
Speaker 2: a half after I'm done with that lunch meal, I'm
Speaker 2: ready to eat, but I don't eat until about five
Speaker 2: five thirty. But I'm not. I never get angry because
Speaker 2: my blood sugar levels are under control.
Speaker 3: So Lendy Mommy ask you this because there is death
Speaker 3: definitely conflicting information out there about women, especially fasting and
Speaker 3: doing intermittent fasting, and how it can you know, make
Speaker 3: your quarters all levels go crazy and stuff, and you
Speaker 3: should always eat breakfast, especially if you're female. And that
Speaker 3: may be because everybody's body's different. There needs, dietary needs
Speaker 3: are different. But how how true do you think that is?
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's not one hundred percent true for everybody.
Speaker 2: And when somebody makes statements like that, they're basically putting
Speaker 2: every single woman in the same class, and we're all different,
Speaker 2: just like you said, So I think what's the goal, right, Like,
Speaker 2: if your goal is to be nourished and you don't
Speaker 2: have weight to lose, definitely you should be eating a breakfast,
Speaker 2: but maybe not until ten. It doesn't have to be
Speaker 2: at five in the morning when you wake up, right,
Speaker 2: so you still have a little bit of a fast
Speaker 2: in there. And actually the science shows that intermittent fasting
Speaker 2: reduces cortisol, it does not jacket the I think where
Speaker 2: intermittent fasting gets under question is in the lean muscle mass.
Speaker 2: They think that you're it's eating away your muscle masks
Speaker 2: master than your fat. And that's well, and I.
Speaker 3: Will say that right there is a big thing for
Speaker 3: people that like dos specific diets or whatever. But it's
Speaker 3: not the diet that's at fault. It's you that's a
Speaker 3: fault because you're under eating. You're not eating enough to
Speaker 3: keep your body nourished so that it's not breaking down
Speaker 3: your muscles.
Speaker 2: Yes, and so the plan that I'm on to release weight,
Speaker 2: and I do a lot of things. This is also
Speaker 2: in my human design, which is kind of funny. I
Speaker 2: experiment and I do things on purpose, like I did
Speaker 2: a three day water fast in January, which I had
Speaker 2: never done before. One of the hardest fucking things I've
Speaker 2: done in.
Speaker 4: My life now that would kill me.
Speaker 2: I was doing the glucose monitoring and making sure my
Speaker 2: blood levels were good so I was taking good care
Speaker 2: of myself, drinking electrolytes throughout the process and making sure
Speaker 2: that I did not drop below a certain blood sugar level.
Speaker 2: But the reason I did that was because I wanted
Speaker 2: my cells, the cells of my body to restore and rejuvenate.
Speaker 2: And it takes seventy two hours to hit the point
Speaker 2: where one hundred percent of your cells have completely restored themselves,
Speaker 2: and like your body turns on the bad cells and
Speaker 2: so like if there were cancer cells floating around somewhere,
Speaker 2: like they're gone, right, because your body is beautifully created
Speaker 2: to take care of itself like.
Speaker 4: That, right, absolutely not meant to eat all day.
Speaker 2: We were not. So now I'm now I'm doing this
Speaker 2: because I do have a little extra fluff that I
Speaker 2: could lose reute release and that's my goal here and
Speaker 2: it is working. But what I will but what I'll
Speaker 2: tell you is is no, it's a very low calorie
Speaker 2: thing because it's just protein, vegetables and a piece of fruit. However,
Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to exercise either. Walking is about the
Speaker 2: most that I can do, and one day I walked
Speaker 2: way too long because I think I can just go
Speaker 2: for five miles and it ain't no thing because I
Speaker 2: have energy and eating like this. Oh my gosh, the
Speaker 2: energy's insane, by the way. But I overdid it and
Speaker 2: my body gained because it was holding water because I
Speaker 2: was inflamed because I did too much. So you have
Speaker 2: to understand like why and how to do this properly.
Speaker 2: And this is only for forty days, it's not It's
Speaker 2: not like how Shannon's eating for the rest of her life.
Speaker 4: Right, I will I will move.
Speaker 2: There is like a gradual move through a little tiny
Speaker 2: bit of regular keto and then kind of eighty twenty
Speaker 2: lifestyle sort of a thing. But again, I like to
Speaker 2: do this stuff so that I can coach others because
Speaker 2: my sister, who she probably won't be watching this, so
Speaker 2: I can I can care. But she probably has over
Speaker 2: one hundred pounds to lose, and she has already lost
Speaker 2: about thirteen herself in about the same length of time,
Speaker 2: and this has been extremely difficult for her. Her mindset
Speaker 2: was not.
Speaker 4: Where it was supposed to.
Speaker 2: I'm never a bity partner, right, so like every day
Speaker 2: we're checking in, how are you, did you lose? What's
Speaker 2: going on? And we decided, you know, we we both
Speaker 2: have had frustrations on this already her especially she she
Speaker 2: has caused herself to have what's called the keto flu,
Speaker 2: and that is like, you know, headaches, diarrhea, dizziness, like
Speaker 2: every day and she's miserable. And I said, well, that
Speaker 2: tells me that you went off the carbs way too fast.
Speaker 2: This was way too harsh, right, So I put her
Speaker 2: on a little tiny bit of carb for her first meal,
Speaker 2: and I said, just do this for the first meal.
Speaker 2: So you are giving yourself the energy because your body
Speaker 2: got too extreme too fast. So you know, if you're
Speaker 2: going to do something like this, get a coach or
Speaker 2: somebody that knows what the hell they're talking about and
Speaker 2: go through it. Because I can tell you if this
Speaker 2: was dangerous or not safe, I would not be continuing
Speaker 2: it myself. For me right now, I feel amazing. The
Speaker 2: intermittent fasting is working really really well for me because
Speaker 2: my body. And I've said this, you could probably go
Speaker 2: back on our other podcast, like I don't like food
Speaker 2: in my body. I feel so good when there is
Speaker 2: no when I cannot feel a gut full of food,
Speaker 2: I work out better, I have better energy, And it's
Speaker 2: because your food is only supposed to be fuel. It's
Speaker 2: not supposed to sit like a rock in your gut,
Speaker 2: you know, And I just function better. I sleep better.
Speaker 2: So even though I can eat and tell eight in
Speaker 2: my window, I'm done by about six six thirty usually
Speaker 2: because my food will not digest if I eat it
Speaker 2: at eight, it will not digest in time for me
Speaker 2: to go to bed at eight forty six, by the way,
Speaker 2: and I cannot sleep with a gutful of food, and
Speaker 2: that's not a good thing either. It causes weird dreams
Speaker 2: and like you're hot and it's uncomfortable. So I have
Speaker 2: to be fully digested before I go to bed too.
Speaker 2: And that's just me because I know my body. But
Speaker 2: this is just you know, this is a safe way
Speaker 2: to do it, as long as you're not going to
Speaker 2: the extreme. That being said, the protein piece of this
Speaker 2: is where all of the calories come in, so it's
Speaker 2: it's a fairly low protein. I took the liberty of
Speaker 2: adding myself a couple ounces of protein rather than just
Speaker 2: four ounces, I'm giving myself six, which is still a
Speaker 2: deficit for me because I'm a high energy burner. And
Speaker 2: so you know, knowing that, you know, it's like you
Speaker 2: got to have all of the facts. You can't just
Speaker 2: go into it willy nilly. That's why most of this stuff.
Speaker 2: People want to do it for free. People want to
Speaker 2: do it like and want to have success at it,
Speaker 2: but either their mindset isn't ready for it and they
Speaker 2: need a coach to like keep them accountable, or they
Speaker 2: don't know what's happening to their body and they go, oh,
Speaker 2: that's unsafe because it didn't work for me. It doesn't
Speaker 2: mean it's unsafe. You caused a Harkshomer response.
Speaker 4: You're right like freaking out one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And that's what a lot of people, no matter what
Speaker 3: kind of diet they start, whether it's carnivor keto, whatever, whatever,
Speaker 3: you have to be ready to make a change, and
Speaker 3: you have to know in your mind, Okay, I'm going
Speaker 3: to give up whatever it is, sugar carbs, blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: and you have to do it at the level that
Speaker 3: you're comfortable with. Wait, if you're if you're like a
Speaker 3: go getter person and you don't have an addictive personality
Speaker 3: and you can stop like all sugar cold turkey, great
Speaker 3: for you if you have that mindset.
Speaker 4: But some people don't, and they have.
Speaker 3: To ease, and so you have to ease in with
Speaker 3: like three days a week for so long and then
Speaker 3: go to four or five days a week or whatever
Speaker 3: so that your body doesn't freak out.
Speaker 2: My favorite thing is when people say I've tried everything.
Speaker 2: I keep this around for that exact situation when you
Speaker 2: have exhausted all possibilities, remember this you haven't, because I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure I said that a time or two and
Speaker 2: I was just saying this was hormones. And but I
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a natural path and I am as
Speaker 2: fluffy as I was. I was at an all time
Speaker 2: high for me, and I'm like, uh, this isn't okay.
Speaker 2: Like I'm helping people with their health, and like, look
Speaker 2: at me, and now I know I don't have to
Speaker 2: be the skinniest thing on the face of the planet.
Speaker 2: I get that. I'm I feel like I have that control.
Speaker 2: But like I had said, I had tried everything. I
Speaker 2: have paid three hundred and fifty dollars a month for
Speaker 2: fuelings on one plan and it worked until it basically
Speaker 2: taught my metabolism to stop and I retrain my metabolism.
Speaker 2: I have done the healthy eating. I haven't eaten fast
Speaker 2: food in seventeen years right, Hey, Oscar, quick, Oscar, Oscar,
Speaker 2: he's such a jerk. Sorry, if you can hear him,
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's barking at. But it's moving.
Speaker 2: You can get so you haven't tried everything, and sometimes
Speaker 2: you just need a tailored program for you, for you.
Speaker 2: But that's what I love about what I'm doing is
Speaker 2: it's a mixture of a couple of different things. It's
Speaker 2: not just this like new fad thing. And the other
Speaker 2: thing I love about it is that it's not forever.
Speaker 2: Because I have always said, if somebody tells you to
Speaker 2: do something for life, run you shouldn't know anything. Your
Speaker 2: body's changing, everything's shifting and changing, and I think we
Speaker 2: also this might kind of flip us into that conspiracy side,
Speaker 2: but I don't care. I think it's truth. We have
Speaker 2: to also look at what's happening in how the energy
Speaker 2: of the earth is shifting. It is the human resonance
Speaker 2: is definitely shifting. We've got more solar activity than we've
Speaker 2: ever had, and I think more is coming, and it's
Speaker 2: just fucking with things like hard. But we're in this
Speaker 2: place where we're like, Wow, I don't understand, is it
Speaker 2: a full moon like, No, it has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with the moon, by the way, which I will reserve
Speaker 2: my comments about that. But you know, there is a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff that we're shifting through as a collective
Speaker 2: that we have to look at that is changing how
Speaker 2: we are supposed to eat. So if you continue to go, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I need to go back to, you know, the meat
Speaker 2: and potatoes like I was raised on, because I was
Speaker 2: so thin back that, well, your meat and potatoes didn't
Speaker 2: have all the crap in them that they have today.
Speaker 2: So not only do we have to think on our
Speaker 2: feet because they are trying to poison us in this country.
Speaker 2: We're headed in a good direction so far, finger crossed.
Speaker 2: Let's hope it continues. But our food isn't what it
Speaker 2: was when most did and so we have to start
Speaker 2: looking at what EMF radiation is doing, what the solar
Speaker 2: energies are doing, the consciousness of Earth, what the earth
Speaker 2: resonance is doing. Like we're shifting and a lot of
Speaker 2: people can't eat like they used to anyway, and I
Speaker 2: don't I think we need to stop normalizing saying it's
Speaker 2: our age. I've had so many people say, oh, well,
Speaker 2: you know, once you hit forty that's when it all
Speaker 2: goes downhill, and I'm like, I'm almost forty six, and
Speaker 2: I feel like the best in the best condition of
Speaker 2: my life because this is like getting square in addition
Speaker 2: to me getting the physical down, you know, and getting
Speaker 2: it like cohesive, and I feel amazing.
Speaker 4: So I can say that too. And I am literally
Speaker 4: a very short.
Speaker 3: Few months away from the discount on the senior menu.
Speaker 2: I can't wait for that. Actually, that's awesome. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we need to stop saying age is a culprit. It's not.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be at all, but so is
Speaker 2: the This is the big thing I think when you
Speaker 2: I think, this is what everyone watching this needs to
Speaker 2: first consider. When you're thinking about doing any kind of
Speaker 2: a plan or correcting corsel, whatever you're doing, you need
Speaker 2: to sit with your thoughts and think, Okay, what do
Speaker 2: I know now? Oh? Well, I know that they whoever
Speaker 2: they are, it's arbitrary. But whatever they say that it's
Speaker 2: not safe for this, I'm gonna say, stop right there
Speaker 2: and challenge that thought. If you don't start taking captive
Speaker 2: of your thoughts and challenging it, you're never gonna get
Speaker 2: past it because it's not true. There are more truths
Speaker 2: out there that we never even can considered before. There
Speaker 2: are true ways of doing things that we haven't even
Speaker 2: heard of yet. And as we shift, we have to
Speaker 2: be doing new things anyway. So why would we be like, oh,
Speaker 2: that doesn't work. I just know that doesn't work. How
Speaker 2: the fuck do you know?
Speaker 3: Well, again, that's a control thing, right, because you think
Speaker 3: that you are the genius of the universe, and you
Speaker 3: know more than God who created your body system in
Speaker 3: the first place, to work perfectly.
Speaker 4: We're the ones that screw it up.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: And why is that?
Speaker 3: Like you talked about supplements earlier, how many people do
Speaker 3: you talk to that literally take like twenty five silplementths
Speaker 3: a day, oh or more most everything. I need one
Speaker 3: for this, and I need one for that, and I
Speaker 3: heard this on a show, so I better get that,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to do this and this and this.
Speaker 3: I don't feel good on a lot of supplements.
Speaker 4: I just do not.
Speaker 2: Like we should be getting all of that from our
Speaker 2: food anyway. You have supplements. In biblical times, they used oils,
Speaker 2: you know that That was their everything. That was their medicine,
Speaker 2: That was the way that they kept their frequency lifted.
Speaker 2: That was everything and it all came from plants, it
Speaker 2: all came from the earth.
Speaker 3: But it's so easy for us to dismiss everything and
Speaker 3: even the way that our bodies intended to work, because
Speaker 3: we're looking for that uber fast, quick fix, like I have.
Speaker 3: I'm going to take this injection because it's guaranteed I'm
Speaker 3: going to lose weight uber fast. Yeah, but what is
Speaker 3: it doing to your organs? And how is that going
Speaker 3: to shut your body down permanently?
Speaker 2: On another level, anything that they have created, I don't trust, no,
Speaker 2: same don't. I am heartbroken that I keep seeing people
Speaker 2: talk about the injection stuff, because I've also seen pictures
Speaker 2: of somebody who is struggling because like now they can't
Speaker 2: even gain weight and their stomach is completely paralyzed and
Speaker 2: they've ruined themselves. Yeah, I just it's so sad to me.
Speaker 2: It's so sad what we're watching. It's like, rather than
Speaker 2: being grateful for the human experience and being a human,
Speaker 2: it's like people want to look robotic. They inject their face,
Speaker 2: they fix their face, and it's like that number one
Speaker 2: tells me that you don't love yourself if you have
Speaker 2: to fix anything about your face. And I'm sorry I'm
Speaker 2: sorry because a lot of women are like, oh, but
Speaker 2: I don't want the wrinkles, and it's like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: then quit stressing out, because that's what's causing your damn wrinkles.
Speaker 2: So you stress out, you're now injecting those wrinkles to
Speaker 2: try to get them to go away. And now you're
Speaker 2: just gonna chase your tail. And honestly, we're meant to
Speaker 2: grow old start embracing this stuff. But we don't have
Speaker 2: to grow old that fast. We can still live forever.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's such a sad thing like that just
Speaker 2: tells me the state of the mental health.
Speaker 4: Right, That absolutely happened.
Speaker 3: So, but that's a good point because with the cortisol
Speaker 3: and it affecting mental and emotional state, right, it affects
Speaker 3: our constant need to be in an emotional state of
Speaker 3: panic and stress, and whatever affects our sleep and our
Speaker 3: ability to release the chemicals that we're supposed to to
Speaker 3: heal while we're sleeping metabolic so you're not processing your
Speaker 3: food or you're having gi issues, upset stomach bouts of
Speaker 3: crazy nauseat of nowhere and stuff. You talked about the
Speaker 3: bone health and the muscles and.
Speaker 4: Stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But it affects, like you said, your skined, your hair,
Speaker 3: your nails, literally, your heart, your immune system, all of that.
Speaker 3: Because if your body loves homeostasis right, loves the normal
Speaker 3: balance of things, and so if we are screwing ourselves
Speaker 3: by doing things that we shouldn't be doing to keep
Speaker 3: ourselves in that constant state of fight or flight, and
Speaker 3: your body's like in a panic mode because it doesn't
Speaker 3: know which way to go. So people can get in
Speaker 3: cortisol dysregulation where it's backwards, like it's supposed to be
Speaker 3: highest in the morning to help you get up and
Speaker 3: wake up and whatever, but instead it's flipped and it's
Speaker 3: really low in the morning, so you have no energy,
Speaker 3: you can't move, and at night it spikes crazy high.
Speaker 4: That would be me. I don't know why I haven't
Speaker 4: figured it out.
Speaker 3: Yet, because I'm not a stressed person. I don't worry
Speaker 3: about all the other stuff. I ground myself, I take
Speaker 3: time for myself. I don't worry about what this person said,
Speaker 3: that person said. I don't control other people's whatever. I
Speaker 3: don't drink, you know, so me, my culprits are probably
Speaker 3: smoking and caffeine because I love tea, but I do.
Speaker 3: I do do the adrenal booster cocktails. I do that,
Speaker 3: you know, and and all of this stuff I eat clean.
Speaker 3: I don't do processed foods and all of that stuff.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I don't know what all it could be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but my body's like still I'm backwards.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, just shy of telling you to go
Speaker 2: get yourself an or ring. If you notice the time,
Speaker 2: if you if you could look at the chart and
Speaker 2: see when your cortisol is spiking specifically, you would know
Speaker 2: what at what point in your day something had happened
Speaker 2: or whatever it was that was occurring at that point
Speaker 2: in time, and that that helps kind of tip you
Speaker 2: off to what stresses you out.
Speaker 3: But I'm usually like, so chill though, I don't let
Speaker 3: anything bother me. I gave all that up because I
Speaker 3: used to be used to be at a.
Speaker 2: Chart and it's you know, really you know, it's jiggly
Speaker 2: and it kind of spikes, and sometimes it'll spike with me,
Speaker 2: like running around the kitchen trying to pack a lunch
Speaker 2: to leave the house fast. If you're if you do anything,
Speaker 2: like you know, in a hurry, ever, like even just
Speaker 2: randomly that spikes me.
Speaker 4: I'm a sloth when it comes to doing things in
Speaker 4: a quick manner.
Speaker 2: The other thing could just be locking down the sleep
Speaker 2: and working on getting better.
Speaker 4: I think that's my biggest issue, is.
Speaker 2: Not sleeping causes stress too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that's probably like my biggest thing.
Speaker 4: But I am. It's in that weird stage where I'm like.
Speaker 3: Hot flashes at night and you know whatever, and then
Speaker 3: I'm like I get up and go to the bathroom.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh Jesus, it's cold in here. I love
Speaker 3: just just sleep in the cold so hot in bed.
Speaker 3: And then when I get up, I'm like, burr, I'm cold,
Speaker 3: and then I'll cover up when I go back to bed.
Speaker 3: That's how I was getting and then later on like
Speaker 3: I'm kicking the covers off because I'm burning alive again.
Speaker 2: I was waking up like having to change my pajamas,
Speaker 2: just drenched. But it wouldn't I wouldn't wake up hot.
Speaker 2: I would wake up after like it was almost like
Speaker 2: after a fever when you when your fever breaks and
Speaker 2: you just start sweating like crazy. That's what I would
Speaker 2: wake up, and I'd be like, dang it again, I'm
Speaker 2: tired to waken up drenched, and so again it was
Speaker 2: like whatever whatever I was doing in the night season,
Speaker 2: But that's when all of my symptoms were starting to
Speaker 2: look like it was a hormonal imbalance, and so I
Speaker 2: was working on correcting that as well, and the sleep
Speaker 2: and then the I think the calming down aspect really
Speaker 2: really did the most for me. And so it was
Speaker 2: in that moment where I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I've got to start teaching women like you've got to
Speaker 2: stand up for this. You have to say I need
Speaker 2: to take a break. I have to have one every day.
Speaker 2: Let's stop say and we don't take eat lunch at
Speaker 2: our desk while we're working. Stop it. Why, I mean,
Speaker 2: is it really worth the hourly wage that you're getting paid,
Speaker 2: or if you're salaried, why the fuck are you giving
Speaker 2: them all of your time? Like that? Draw boundaries, you know,
Speaker 2: take your time. Breathe. I have a little device called
Speaker 2: a moon bird and it was so cute. I got
Speaker 2: it at the Biohacking conference a year ago. And it
Speaker 2: has wings that kind of come out when you breathe in,
Speaker 2: and then the wings will go down when you're supposed
Speaker 2: to breathe out, and it teaches you different breathing techniques
Speaker 2: and you're just holding it like a little bird in
Speaker 2: your hand. When you feel the wings come out, that
Speaker 2: triggers you to breathe, and so you don't have to
Speaker 2: think about it up here because in your hand it's
Speaker 2: kind of making you go, oh, okay, I need to
Speaker 2: breathe in now. It teaches you like the box breath
Speaker 2: and different styles of breathing, and that's where I started.
Speaker 2: That's where I started to really like calm down and
Speaker 2: like bring that HRV level down.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and save for me like at night because
Speaker 3: you know, my husband goes to bed earlier than I do.
Speaker 3: I have that time by myself at night where I
Speaker 3: just like sit and you know, relax and whatever. And
Speaker 3: you know, I go outside a lot, and so like
Speaker 3: I'm constantly like you know, getting fresh air to nature
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and so I'm very good about like
Speaker 3: taking a break, grounding stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Is just.
Speaker 4: Trying to get the sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it might be a hormone thing, you know,
Speaker 2: just like trying to balance that, which you can do
Speaker 2: with herbs. I think you're an herb person. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: there's lots of different herbs that you can use to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so that's what I want people to know that,
Speaker 3: Like it can be really high for you all the time,
Speaker 3: it can be really low for you all the time.
Speaker 3: And there's different problems that come along with you know,
Speaker 3: each one of the things. But you can also be
Speaker 3: a critter like me where mine is just just regulated
Speaker 3: and flip flopped from the way it's supposed to work.
Speaker 3: And you know, so there's all kinds of people and
Speaker 3: everybody's very very different about how you know, they can
Speaker 3: do it. Like if it's really high, you're going to
Speaker 3: have that problem with the weight gain and no matter
Speaker 3: what you do, you're still going to gain weight type
Speaker 3: thing which is a lot of women because you're not
Speaker 3: treating your body properly. You're not doing the things that
Speaker 3: you need to do to stop causing all the inflammation
Speaker 3: and stuff in there.
Speaker 2: And it's a balance. And you know, without living with
Speaker 2: a person, I can't say what each person needs to do.
Speaker 2: But it's different for everybody. I mean, you know, like
Speaker 2: I would tell you most women are working out too
Speaker 2: hard for them. You know, are we paying attention to
Speaker 2: the products that we're putting on and in our body
Speaker 2: which causes hormone disruption, So your hormone disruption could be
Speaker 2: from something else, but then causing the sleep issue. And
Speaker 2: it's then this cord is all spikes and you're actually
Speaker 2: spiking backwards, whereas oxygen and should be first, and then
Speaker 2: you know, should take care of that hierarchy. So I
Speaker 2: started just focusing on it, because what you focus on grows.
Speaker 2: I started focusing on things that brought me joy. And
Speaker 2: one of the things that I this is so funny,
Speaker 2: I knew brought me the most you.
Speaker 4: Thought about me, and then you were like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I'm so.
Speaker 2: Happy I did. And then the second thought that I had,
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I love theater. I should
Speaker 2: go and try out for a play. And it was
Speaker 2: funny because right after I had said that to myself,
Speaker 2: Facebook roles that the community theater was having these tryouts.
Speaker 2: I didn't tell anyone that I knew. I went by
Speaker 2: myself because it was only for me. I was only
Speaker 2: doing it because it brought me joy, and I thought,
Speaker 2: if I get a part, whatever, but I want to
Speaker 2: go and do this for me and be happy that
Speaker 2: I put myself out there to try out for a play.
Speaker 2: It was a very small cast, of like five total people,
Speaker 2: and I got in and what I realized when I
Speaker 2: was there is my ring was showing me that my
Speaker 2: cortisol levels were tanking. When I was there. I would
Speaker 2: be on my feet acting in a scene that caused
Speaker 2: me to move around a lot, and my cortisol would
Speaker 2: be super low, and I'm like, okay, okay, now I
Speaker 2: can identify what Shannon's issue is. So it could just
Speaker 2: be a matter of you needing to do something that
Speaker 2: lights your heart up because it's producing oxytocin, not the cortisol.
Speaker 3: But do you know what I'm saying, Like, you know
Speaker 3: what's funny about that is what brings me happiness and
Speaker 3: joy is helping other people, which I literally do.
Speaker 4: All day long, every day.
Speaker 3: But also with that comes emotion and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: That's why the constant need for you know, my downtime
Speaker 3: at rest and relaxation and stuff like that, because people
Speaker 3: bring a lot of emotions and I have to make
Speaker 3: sure that those are not attaching to me in the
Speaker 3: way that I'm internalizing those as my own because they're
Speaker 3: definitely not. Yeah, it's very mindful of that.
Speaker 2: You're an EmPATH, and so that's where that gets really tricky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's that's my thing, is that's what makes
Speaker 3: me happy, or animals make me very happy. That Hen's
Speaker 3: why I'm outside a lot. But when I leave the house,
Speaker 3: because of the area that we live in, there's like
Speaker 3: a lot of farms and stuff around here. So I
Speaker 3: can literally drive down the street and see goats and
Speaker 3: cows and horses and donkeys and more cows and more goats,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I roll down the window and I talk.
Speaker 4: To them, and I'm like, I'm like, I love you goats.
Speaker 4: I go to goats. I having a good day. I
Speaker 4: talked to the I talk to birds and stuff that
Speaker 4: come in the yard.
Speaker 2: Yep. My neighborhood as well. There's cows on the back
Speaker 2: side of it, and when you walk around this loop
Speaker 2: you can see them and a lot of times they're
Speaker 2: at the fence and I call them moo moose. I'm
Speaker 2: like kimomo. And then we also get occasional mountain lions.
Speaker 2: We get snakes. Unfortunately, yeah, those don't.
Speaker 4: That doesn't bring me joy.
Speaker 2: No, that does not bring me joy either. But we
Speaker 2: get bald eagles occasionally. We get a lot of the
Speaker 2: a lot of the wildlife, deer, are always in my neighborhood,
Speaker 2: so yeah, it's kind of it's kind of fun. I
Speaker 2: saw a fox once to come through, so but yeah,
Speaker 2: I kind of feel the same way because animals have
Speaker 2: this really great energy and they're super sensitive to frequency,
Speaker 2: and they they know more than we give them credit for,
Speaker 2: I think, and so it's just kind of fun. So
Speaker 2: I love connecting with animals myself, and I totally talk
Speaker 2: to him like they're people.
Speaker 3: I'm totally like, my goal in life is to have
Speaker 3: a farm, so I can have all the animals that
Speaker 3: I want on my farm and just go outside and
Speaker 3: pet them and cuddle with them and whatever.
Speaker 4: That's my thing.
Speaker 2: I want horses so bad.
Speaker 4: My husband would not like that. He's allergic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know a lot of people around here call
Speaker 2: them hay burners, and I think that's disrespectful. It is.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be on them. I want to
Speaker 2: be around them.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this question, since we're talking
Speaker 3: about like being outside and with frequency and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: how do you feel that sunlight factors into the whole
Speaker 3: cortissol thing?
Speaker 2: So sunlight is necessary. That was another thing that I
Speaker 2: that I worked on. Another unpopular thing is I don't
Speaker 2: wear sunscreen unless not even not even that. I don't
Speaker 2: ever unless I'm going to be outside for like four
Speaker 2: to eight hours, then I will. But if I'm going
Speaker 2: on a walk and I'm exposed for an hour and
Speaker 2: i get a little sun kissed, I'm not gonna worry
Speaker 2: about it because there's nothing on my skin that's going
Speaker 2: to burn me, which is what sunscreen does. But we're
Speaker 2: blocking the sun. Block for sure blocks the sun and
Speaker 2: it's nutrients from our skin. So we need it for
Speaker 2: a couple of different reasons. Sunlight helps with cholesterol and
Speaker 2: maintain a manageable level, which we need so that our
Speaker 2: arteries stay soft and pliable. And that's created in the liver.
Speaker 2: So when your doctor wants to put you on a statin,
Speaker 2: it's say no, it's fucking up your liver and you're
Speaker 2: not getting especially if it's for cortisol reasons.
Speaker 4: That's dumb.
Speaker 2: Get outside. The sun is one of the natural doc
Speaker 2: There is nutrients. There are nutrients to be gained from
Speaker 2: the sun. You can do sun gazing, which is at
Speaker 2: sunrise or sunset, and I mean like the seconds as
Speaker 2: the sun is setting and the seconds as it's rising,
Speaker 2: where you stare at it without blinking, and you do
Speaker 2: have to be careful so that you don't burn your retinas.
Speaker 2: But that is part of like regulating the circadian rhythms
Speaker 2: of your body. But you do get nutrients in your
Speaker 2: eyeballs when you do that. I'm sorry, it's just a fact,
Speaker 2: Like that's what happens. The sun is is something that
Speaker 2: gives us life, just like photosynthesis to a plant, we
Speaker 2: also go through our own version of photosynthesis when the
Speaker 2: sun is on us. Vitamin D is a hormone. Actually
Speaker 2: it is not a vitamin. It is produced by the
Speaker 2: melatonin system in the pineal gland. Blah blah blah. Well,
Speaker 2: so last year, maybe it's been two years now, I
Speaker 2: stopped wearing the sun block on my walks. I would
Speaker 2: go for like an hour walk every day, and I
Speaker 2: noticed that my skin, which I'm a pasty Irish girl,
Speaker 2: I stopped getting red and I actually started to tan,
Speaker 2: which I've never seen in my entire life, Like how
Speaker 2: does a person white sea through invisible to now carrying
Speaker 2: a tan? I realized it was because anytime I put
Speaker 2: sun block on, it was burning my skin, turning me
Speaker 2: to lobster color. And then that healed, it went straight
Speaker 2: back to white. And now I actually like I can
Speaker 2: take my watch off and I've got.
Speaker 4: A you got a tadline.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my natural color right there, not TRANSLUSA anymore.
Speaker 2: Not. But then I went to have my hormones checked
Speaker 2: in just you know, a regular blood draw and I
Speaker 2: actually didn't need to. I was not told to take
Speaker 2: vitamin D. And this was this was in my forties, Like,
Speaker 2: this is not this, this is very recent. So the sun,
Speaker 2: we we need the sun in so many ways. I
Speaker 2: try to get outside every single day for a minimum
Speaker 2: of twenty minutes minimum. And so yeah, you absolutely need it.
Speaker 2: You need the vitamins, the nutrients. I can't say enough
Speaker 2: about it. It's so what's killing you?
Speaker 3: So how do you feel because a lot of this stuff,
Speaker 3: when they talk about cortisol levels, they suggest like adaptagen
Speaker 3: specific herbs or supplementation of some kind that's along those lights.
Speaker 4: How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3: Do you feel like it's necessary or could be beneficial
Speaker 3: to someone?
Speaker 2: No, I think people need to learn to breathe. That's free.
Speaker 2: You don't have to grow it. You don't have to
Speaker 2: wait for it to grow. You don't have to wait
Speaker 2: for it to ship. You don't have to pay for it,
Speaker 2: you don't have to make it into a salvage.
Speaker 4: I'm all about free.
Speaker 2: What's that.
Speaker 4: I'm all about free?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think that breathing is a lost art.
Speaker 2: We don't I mean, I don't even have great posture
Speaker 2: right now. I could sit up straight, but I'm leaning
Speaker 2: on my chair here. But we are not taking full,
Speaker 2: full breaths. Most people are breathing quite shallow, and a
Speaker 2: lot of that has to do with the stress level
Speaker 2: that they're under. And that's probably what you know how
Speaker 2: the or ring really kind of detects that too, is
Speaker 2: whether you're getting all of the oxygen saturation that you
Speaker 2: need in the breath that you're taking. So practicing breath work,
Speaker 2: which that sounds if you think about it, that's dumb
Speaker 2: for people in the modern world to have to go
Speaker 2: to a breath class when we were born to fucking breathe.
Speaker 2: So I feel like we need to go back to like.
Speaker 4: Our baby state.
Speaker 2: Babies knew what to do. Babies did it. But yeah,
Speaker 2: like we need to take deep breaths, pause for five
Speaker 2: minutes just to deep breathe. You could do fire breathing.
Speaker 2: You could learn the different types of breathing that there is,
Speaker 2: because it all does something completely different. I did a
Speaker 2: program one time on my oh brain tap, and it
Speaker 2: put me into fight or flight. But that was on purpose,
Speaker 2: I guess, and I didn't know this when I first
Speaker 2: started the program, and it was my first experience with
Speaker 2: fire breathing, which is like almost panting, but for long
Speaker 2: periods of time to wear your body. It's they're trying
Speaker 2: to trigger your fighter flight on purpose. I'm serious. I
Speaker 2: was freaking out. I started panicking and there were a
Speaker 2: couple times I would take a deep breath to regulate
Speaker 2: myself because I was freaking out.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: And so finally, like I just kept getting through it,
Speaker 2: getting through it, because I'm like, God, this is only
Speaker 2: a twenty minute program. Surely I'm not going to die.
Speaker 2: But by the end of the program, they ended up
Speaker 2: walking you through this shadow self exercise thing and it
Speaker 2: was so beautiful. But like, I wouldn't have gotten there
Speaker 2: had I not done the fire breathing to prepare me,
Speaker 2: to get me ready to enter into that level of
Speaker 2: brain wave state that I could manage that and go
Speaker 2: back to the previous shadow you know. Blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: but so breathwork I think is highly underrated. We need
Speaker 2: to breathe, breathe.
Speaker 3: So breathing reducing stress, trying to regulate your sleep and
Speaker 3: wake cycle, because you you literally cannot sleep until noon
Speaker 3: and then get up and then go back to bed
Speaker 3: and do that on a regular basis to have a
Speaker 3: good circadian rhythm.
Speaker 4: Right, eating for fuel and not for piggy anything else.
Speaker 2: Get something that fasting really does reduce cortisol. It really does. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, I know people are at that, but I
Speaker 2: that's one of the things I deployed and it worked
Speaker 2: for me. So intermittent fasting can do that for you.
Speaker 2: You just have to be smart about it and make
Speaker 2: sure that you know you don't take it too extreme.
Speaker 2: If you're the type of person that has to weigh
Speaker 2: yourself every day and you get obsessive about number, don't
Speaker 2: maybe don't intermittent fast because it'll never be enough for you.
Speaker 3: You have to get this right first, right, And just
Speaker 3: because you're not seeing a drastic change in your numbers
Speaker 3: on the scale every day does not mean that it's
Speaker 3: not working, especially if you are doing some kind of
Speaker 3: physical activity. It doesn't have to be or not running
Speaker 3: a marathon or whatever. But if you're doing you know,
Speaker 3: the light workout and you know, alternating days and then whatever,
Speaker 3: you're gaining muscle mass. So you're obviously not going to
Speaker 3: be dropping like insane amounts of weight while you're gaining
Speaker 3: muscle because your body's doing that so that you're getting healthier.
Speaker 4: And it's not abou breaking the numbers.
Speaker 2: It's not about the number on the scale, your measurements.
Speaker 2: Your measurements could get smaller and you haven't dropped a
Speaker 2: pound for that exact reason. There's a really cool meme
Speaker 2: that shows like six or seven different women lined up
Speaker 2: that are all different heights and different body shapes that
Speaker 2: are all one hundred and fifty pounds. So your one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty might be you know, big for you
Speaker 2: because of your height, but my one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: might be a little bit different looking, and I mean
Speaker 2: visually because I'm taller and we all hold it differently.
Speaker 2: So really, weight is arbitrary in terms of the number. However,
Speaker 2: I will say that I think our society has gone
Speaker 2: way too far in this whole normalization of like the
Speaker 2: fat shaming thing or whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 2: Like saying that big is beautiful. I'm not saying y'all
Speaker 2: aren't beautiful. I'm saying that we need to stop making that,
Speaker 2: like stop worshiping that that is unhealthy. It's an unhealthy state.
Speaker 2: Like I know that BMI and all of that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff can also be a little.
Speaker 4: Bit not garbage.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, but the thing is is, like you you
Speaker 2: should be able to bend over and tie your shoe
Speaker 2: without having to hold your breath, or you should be
Speaker 2: able to bend over entire shoe and reach it, do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like that was my sister
Speaker 2: said when she even just lost this first little bit
Speaker 2: of weight. She's like, I could see my feet, Shannon,
Speaker 2: and I just ab outride she could see her feet.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that that was her view, that all
Speaker 2: she saw was her stomach and stuff that I was
Speaker 2: taking for granted. Every day she could bend over entire
Speaker 2: shoe and it didn't cause her like pain or you know,
Speaker 2: like to be out of breath by doing it. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, like these are what we
Speaker 2: call the non scale victories. And I was I'm just
Speaker 2: I've been so proud of her. But it's the perspective
Speaker 2: that we don't see. But you know, it's like, what
Speaker 2: are you getting healthy for? You have to want it,
Speaker 2: and you have to you have to want it to
Speaker 2: sustain it. But you have to go through all of
Speaker 2: the skeletons in the closet up here, because they're gonna
Speaker 2: come out and it's going to make you want to
Speaker 2: eat more. And large amounts of weight is not healthy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm saying that people aren't beautiful, but
Speaker 2: it's not healthy.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 3: And you know, it depends on what your what your
Speaker 3: personal reason is for diet, exercise, blah blah blah, Like
Speaker 3: we started our you know, exercise program at the gym
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 4: But my goal is not to be a.
Speaker 3: Fitness model, right, That's not me, uh, not into that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. I don't want to look like I
Speaker 3: have doot muscles.
Speaker 4: That's not for me.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: My thing is to get especially with my antiquated bodily age, right.
Speaker 3: My thing is to be able to improve my balance, okay, right,
Speaker 3: And so muscle tone and balance is what I care about,
Speaker 3: and so those are the things and that doing things
Speaker 3: like that is going to make me happy instead of
Speaker 3: making a super unrealistic goal where I'm like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna like fill out and now I'm gonna have these
Speaker 3: big bulging muscles and whatever, because I know that's not
Speaker 3: what I want. So you have to really stop and
Speaker 3: think about is you want to feel better, but you
Speaker 3: want to feel better.
Speaker 4: In what aspect?
Speaker 3: And for me that's it because being that I am older,
Speaker 3: balance is super important.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, or having the the muscle endurance to be
Speaker 3: able to like move ourselves to college soon. Yeah you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, without like dying of panting or yeah, whatever.
Speaker 4: So that's the thing. It's not about.
Speaker 3: It's not about anything other than just protecting those things.
Speaker 2: For me, I think often this might be a bit extreme,
Speaker 2: but it's kind of sometimes how I think my daughter
Speaker 2: calls it existentialist. But you know, if the shit does
Speaker 2: hit the fan, because we're looking at some shit in
Speaker 2: the country right now, right like everybody's kind of on
Speaker 2: edge about it, I honestly don't really care. To a point, however,
Speaker 2: the reality might end up that we are off the
Speaker 2: grid and we have to live off the land or
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna go there. Right Let's say you
Speaker 2: end up in that place where okay, now it's survival
Speaker 2: of the fittest. You got to live off the land
Speaker 2: and protect what you have because people will come and
Speaker 2: take it from you. I don't know if you saw
Speaker 2: the movie and now I'm going to forget what it's called,
Speaker 2: but it's basically about that where there's a big like
Speaker 2: the made a nuke on the shores of California. It's
Speaker 2: a newer movie that just came out, And so they
Speaker 2: end up going to Colorado to this compound and they're
Speaker 2: having to defend all that they have and they've kind
Speaker 2: of hunkered down with some Marines who are securing the border.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Well, anyway, if that, if that is
Speaker 2: the future, I want to be healthy enough. I don't
Speaker 2: give a shit what I look like, but I want
Speaker 2: to be healthy enough to be able to like work
Speaker 2: the land if I need to. If you're so overweight
Speaker 2: that you can't even like, you know, rake a garden
Speaker 2: or you know, like bend over to pick up the
Speaker 2: chicken at I was.
Speaker 3: Going to say, walk five steps without getting winded.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then that's a problem. So for me, it's kind
Speaker 2: of like I want to be prepared and I want
Speaker 2: to be fit enough that you know, walking up a
Speaker 2: set of stairs isn't going to kill me, because I
Speaker 2: might have to be hiking or trying to survive or
Speaker 2: climbing a tree. I don't even know how I would
Speaker 2: climb a tree, first of all, like this would be
Speaker 2: a really funny story if they actually did, right. But
Speaker 2: you know, I have the gumption in the will. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I suppose I should probably take some survival classes, but like,
Speaker 2: I want to be able to do it and not
Speaker 2: have an issue bending over or picking up what if
Speaker 2: you have to carry water? You know, I think about
Speaker 2: some of the other cultures and third world countries where
Speaker 2: they have to literally carry their water and a jar
Speaker 2: on their head, and I'm like, yeah, I mean, think
Speaker 2: about how pampered we are, and so I guess ultimately
Speaker 2: that's what my goal is I want. And then I
Speaker 2: also think about my one hundred and twenty year old self,
Speaker 2: because that's going to be when I die. I think
Speaker 2: about her, and I'm like, well, I got to do
Speaker 2: this now for her, you know, so that I can
Speaker 2: make it there, first of all, but also so that
Speaker 2: by the time I get there, it's not the dementia
Speaker 2: and the Alzheimer's and that kind of stuff that's taking over.
Speaker 2: But that it's like because that's when I have decided
Speaker 2: to die, you know, and not for any other reason,
Speaker 2: like think about your future self.
Speaker 3: Right, And to your point, you know, like we were
Speaker 3: talking about like eating and cholesterol and things like that,
Speaker 3: and cholesterol is really really necessary for brain function because
Speaker 3: it's a neuroprotectant. So with all of this, you know,
Speaker 3: everybody's going to be on a statin and all of
Speaker 3: that stuff. It's just lowering that which is also increasing
Speaker 3: your cortisol, which also affects your brain. So where do
Speaker 3: you think all this massive uptick in Alzheimer's and dementia
Speaker 3: and all of those things come from. It's because we're
Speaker 3: not living according to the way God created us. We're
Speaker 3: living according to what the medical industrial complex says is
Speaker 3: good for us, which if if you're smart about things,
Speaker 3: you know that they don't tell you anything that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, we're not living according to the natural laws
Speaker 2: that were set in place for this earth. We're living
Speaker 2: in a modern society and with that comes a lot
Speaker 2: of heavy metals and a lot of things that you know,
Speaker 2: our soil is not even rich anymore, it's useless and
Speaker 2: so the food that is growing and said soil has
Speaker 2: to be genetically modified because regular stuff can't even grow
Speaker 2: in it. And right, we're really doing ourselves a disservice.
Speaker 2: And I know some people have secured you know, organic
Speaker 2: seeds or whatever, and that's great, and I love that
Speaker 2: I have like one of those hydroponic sort of things
Speaker 2: that you can do inside the house. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's we're definitely not living according to the way that
Speaker 2: God set it up, and we're not living off the
Speaker 2: land anymore. And we're not even living in trade with
Speaker 2: one another, you know. I think back to where people
Speaker 2: probably traded like I'll go shoot this deer if you
Speaker 2: will cure the meat for me, you know, or neighbors
Speaker 2: helping neighbors, and that kind of a thing. We rely
Speaker 2: on having to buy our food prepackaged or like adding
Speaker 2: hot water.
Speaker 3: To like, you know, because because we're lazy, right, And
Speaker 3: so we again want that instant gratification thing because it
Speaker 3: makes us feel good not to have to spend any
Speaker 3: time doing something that for me, like being able to
Speaker 3: create that stuff on my own, yes, is what makes
Speaker 3: me happy. And so like spending that extra time to
Speaker 3: make food, you know, with love and whatever is so
Speaker 3: much better and so much more rewarding to me than
Speaker 3: going to through a drive through.
Speaker 2: I don't do that, yep, And people are figuring it out.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of things are. People are trying
Speaker 2: to get back to that. But but then you know,
Speaker 2: you still have the people that are knee jerking and
Speaker 2: trying to get medications to fix them instantly rather than
Speaker 2: eat a diet that is worthy of you, and I
Speaker 2: mean it worthy of you, and you will completely change.
Speaker 2: Your whole body will heal itself when it gets what
Speaker 2: it needs. So I mean, if you have to be
Speaker 2: people don't want to be uncomfortable. That's just what it
Speaker 2: comes down to. But nothing changes in a comfort zone.
Speaker 2: And so I like, I actually crave the discomfort sometimes
Speaker 2: because I know being on the other side of it
Speaker 2: is when the victory takes place and you feel amazing.
Speaker 2: At that point, you've learned another lesson. So going through
Speaker 2: the hard shit sucks during that time, but once you're
Speaker 2: out on the other side of it, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm ready for the next one now. And yeah, some
Speaker 2: days you need a couple of days to process that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, give me, just not bring something right now,
Speaker 4: that would be excellent.
Speaker 2: Just give me two days and then let's go.
Speaker 3: But you know, like we talked about like dieting and
Speaker 3: stuff and trying to control you know, cortisol levels through
Speaker 3: the way we eat and stuff. But I would say also,
Speaker 3: like as far as easing into things, right, if you
Speaker 3: are somebody that has never exercised or has an exercise
Speaker 3: for a really long time, ease into stuff. It's okay
Speaker 3: to go slow. If you're lifting weights, you don't have
Speaker 3: to go into the gym and automatically think one hundred
Speaker 3: and seventy pounds because everybody else is doing it. Start slow,
Speaker 3: baby steps at a time. If you are really large
Speaker 3: and you have joint issues and stuff like that, do
Speaker 3: chair yoga to start, do you know, get one of
Speaker 3: the stretching bands and do exercises in your chair until
Speaker 3: you build up that ability in that stamina to take
Speaker 3: it a step further.
Speaker 2: And I have learned too that the older that I get,
Speaker 2: not that age is the reason, but the older that
Speaker 2: I get, the flexibility thing becomes more important too, Like
Speaker 2: my workouts will kill me if I don't warm up
Speaker 2: and stretch and even stretching afterwards to get kind of
Speaker 2: roll out the blactic acid and stuff like that just
Speaker 2: directly after the workout, and then I hurt for days afterwards,
Speaker 2: and then you don't want to work out on top
Speaker 2: of that hurt, you know, So knowing how to like
Speaker 2: get if your body stays mobile and flexible, then your
Speaker 2: workouts shouldn't be a problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's where I'm at, and I'm happy
Speaker 3: that I'm at that place. I don't need to go in,
Speaker 3: you know, and and bench press a large amount or
Speaker 3: anything like that, because, like I said, my goal is
Speaker 3: not to body build. My my goal is to strengthen. So,
Speaker 3: you know, so mess Shannon, thank you so much for
Speaker 3: joining me. I know, it's fabulous. I hope everybody learned
Speaker 3: a lot of cool, super duper tips on things. So
Speaker 3: where can people find you at?
Speaker 2: They can find me on Instagram and Facebook at Creative
Speaker 2: Light sixteen, and then my website is www dot Creative
Speaker 2: Light Wellness dot org.
Speaker 3: Okay, and so, folks, for me and for Shannon, thanks
Speaker 3: for tuning in to another episode. We hope you guys
Speaker 3: have an amazing, amazing day and we will check you
Speaker 3: next time.
Speaker 4: Have a good one.