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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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<v Speaker 1>this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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<v Speaker 1>something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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<v Speaker 1>quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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<v Speaker 1>To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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<v Speaker 1>just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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<v Speaker 1>So stay with us, all right, pick the Society. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got the privilege of talking to Greg Helton today. Greg

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<v Speaker 1>is out there in the great state of Washington. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a listener of the show and also a few other things.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an Army veteran, a writer, an artist. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>YouTuber as well, and he's had some interesting things happen

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bigfoot subject over the years in a few

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<v Speaker 1>different states. So welcome to the show. Greg. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing today, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good. It's a nice, beautiful morning up here.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally, normally it's nice and great and overcast it and rainy,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's actually sunny in shiny today.

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<v Speaker 1>That is great, And yeah, that's probably when you get

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<v Speaker 1>those days out there in the Pacific now northwest. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to definitely not taken for granted. We're thankful that

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<v Speaker 1>you're choosing to spend us some time with us today

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<v Speaker 1>here on the show. But I know a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about your accounts, and from what I know, Greg, they

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<v Speaker 1>sound extremely interesting. I'd like to make the best use

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<v Speaker 1>of our time today. Feel free to take us back

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<v Speaker 1>to when this whole deal started for you. What was

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing that you had experienced.

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<v Speaker 3>My first experience, I was ten years old and I

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<v Speaker 3>was living in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little town called Manitou Springs.

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<v Speaker 3>Colorado, a beautiful little town right nestled it right at

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<v Speaker 3>the rocky Mountains No. One Mountain from Pike's Peak, and

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<v Speaker 3>there's a canyon called Williams Canyon. And if you google

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<v Speaker 3>YouTube tear Doctor Rights, that's the video.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the canyon that they swing over. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>ten years old and.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom let me climb all over the mountain as

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<v Speaker 3>long as I wasn't causing trouble in the streets. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting there climbing along and was up in the

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<v Speaker 3>Williams Canyon and I was grabbing slate rock and throwing

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<v Speaker 3>them down off one of the cliffs. Didn't really think

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<v Speaker 3>about it until the third rock I threw down because

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<v Speaker 3>there was a movement to my left and the purple

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<v Speaker 3>vision and I look over and there's.

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<v Speaker 4>A young slender I'm thinking maybe six foot tall female sasquatch,

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<v Speaker 4>holding like an infant, right or one or two year old.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's trying to push him up into one of.

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<v Speaker 3>These caves so they they're out of the way of

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<v Speaker 3>having rocks chucked on doom.

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<v Speaker 2>And it tripped me out because I.

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<v Speaker 3>Seen the legend of Boggy Creek when I was a

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<v Speaker 3>little kid, and so instantly recognized what they were.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh my gosh. And then to

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<v Speaker 2>my right and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit deep in the bushes basically, and to my right

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<v Speaker 3>these bushes started shaking violently. Now, knowing animals growing up

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<v Speaker 3>in Colorado and learning all the animals over there, I

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<v Speaker 3>know no animals shakes bushes just to shake a bush.

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<v Speaker 3>Only two things do that. That'd be a human or

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<v Speaker 3>a primate, and that's to scare the.

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<v Speaker 2>Heck out of you.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was pretty intense. Right there and I ran away.

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<v Speaker 3>I was ten years old.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the next sighting was a few years later,

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<v Speaker 2>and me and my two buddies, Greg Godell Piano and

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Flanagan decided.

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<v Speaker 3>We were going to go camping for the night right

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<v Speaker 3>and were we packed up our stuff and we hiked

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<v Speaker 3>along Bar Trail, which is at the southwest end of

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<v Speaker 3>Manitou Springs and it's there's like a train track that

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<v Speaker 3>goes up to the top of Pike's Peak called the

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<v Speaker 3>cog Railway, and we basically camped right near there. There

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<v Speaker 3>we found this little pool that's by about six feet deep.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because there's a natural creek running down the area

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<v Speaker 3>that we were camping at.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were sitting there as a couple.

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<v Speaker 3>Of kids and talking talking about girls and stuff like

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<v Speaker 3>that got really dark and late at night, and so

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<v Speaker 3>we decided to go to bed right now. We only

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<v Speaker 3>had one of the little pup tents that you have

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<v Speaker 3>that was triangular, not the kind that are now that

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<v Speaker 3>are domed everywhere, and so it was Greg on the right,

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<v Speaker 3>Sean on the left, and I was in the middle,

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<v Speaker 3>and we had left the zipper opened right so air

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<v Speaker 3>and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fire had died down, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>The fire got rekindled, and that's what woke me up.

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<v Speaker 2>And I looked down at my feet and there's this

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<v Speaker 2>huge shadow.

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<v Speaker 3>Covering the entire tent right And I looked down and

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<v Speaker 3>there's these two gigantic harry legs between us and the campfire.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh gosh, And I knew they

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<v Speaker 3>weren't bears of bear legs, because bears are love study

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<v Speaker 3>little things. And I shook my two friends awake and

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<v Speaker 3>then put my hands over their mouths because one of

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<v Speaker 3>them made a sound, and the legs turned and we

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<v Speaker 3>were all three laying down. The next thing I know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's about eleven in the morning, dish, so it's been

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<v Speaker 3>several hours, and we all three were in the sitting

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<v Speaker 3>position with our backs pressed against the tent. So the

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<v Speaker 3>only thing I'm thinking is the asquatch probably looked into

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<v Speaker 3>the tent, scared us to death, and we all just fainted.

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<v Speaker 3>I got out of the tent by f Greg got

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<v Speaker 3>out of the tent, and he was.

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<v Speaker 2>So anxious to just get out of the area.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like throwing stuff all together. My friend Sean

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<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't even get out of the tent. He was

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<v Speaker 3>that terrified and that we had to basically drag the

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<v Speaker 3>tent off of him. And Sean was from New York

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<v Speaker 3>City and his parents. His mom sent him to his

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<v Speaker 3>dad in Colorado to get him away from all the

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<v Speaker 3>gangs in the nineteen eighties. And basically the next day

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<v Speaker 3>I go to see Sean.

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<v Speaker 2>To talk about it, and his dad had.

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<v Speaker 3>To send him home to New York City because Sean

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<v Speaker 3>thought it would be safer to be in New York

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<v Speaker 3>City than in Colorado with the Bigfoot and my friend Greg.

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<v Speaker 3>He literally refused to talk about it. He was that terrified.

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<v Speaker 3>I did have one possible encounter when I was a

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<v Speaker 3>teen in.

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<v Speaker 2>The same city. I don't know if it was actually

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<v Speaker 2>a Sasquatch or not, because what I did not.

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<v Speaker 3>See was solid black And I'm walking a girl home

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<v Speaker 3>up in Crystal Hills, and as I'm walking back home,

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<v Speaker 3>there's this large I think it was a Rottweiler, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's not on a leash, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>like on his way home or something, and he sees

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<v Speaker 3>me but doesn't even worry about me, right, And then

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden he goes out of the street

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<v Speaker 3>light land from under the street light, and he looks

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<v Speaker 3>to his right and freaks out, and he goes running

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<v Speaker 3>and hides behind me. And I was just like, and

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<v Speaker 3>I heard a sun shuffle. So we do have black bears,

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<v Speaker 3>but generally when a dog sees a black bear, they

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<v Speaker 3>start barking. When the sasquatches come around, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>dogs just freaking shut up and run away. Okay, then

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<v Speaker 3>we'll go to That was my Colorado incidences. Then I

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<v Speaker 3>went to the Army, and then I moved to Oregon

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<v Speaker 3>shortly afterwards, and I was up in the Regency apartments

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<v Speaker 3>up by COCC Central Oregon Community College, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>with a friend and we see this large mass walking

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<v Speaker 3>across like our window.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was like one of the things.

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<v Speaker 3>So it looked like a sasquatch in the shadow, but

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't make a sound, and where its head would

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<v Speaker 3>be would have had it been about eight feet high

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<v Speaker 3>from where we were and the wind how far the

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<v Speaker 3>window is off the ground. But most of my sightings

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<v Speaker 3>were over on the western side of Oregon. Most of

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<v Speaker 3>them were actually in Lane County. One of them, I

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<v Speaker 3>was driving home from a friend of mine's house in Marcola,

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<v Speaker 3>and they actually have a big history of sasquatches walking

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<v Speaker 3>through the creeks in their town, really tiny world town.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm driving home and it's twilight and I see something.

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<v Speaker 3>For some reason, my brain thought it was a broken

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<v Speaker 3>telephone pole because it was half the size of the

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<v Speaker 3>actual telephone pole, so it wasn't the fifty foot telephone poles.

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<v Speaker 2>This one was probably about.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty five hit the most, and I'm like, oh, they

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<v Speaker 3>replace a telephone pole. And that was What's stuck in

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<v Speaker 3>my head for a split second. As I'm driving past,

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<v Speaker 3>I realized it wasn't the telephone pole. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>sasquatch just standing there quietly waiting for a few cars

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<v Speaker 3>to pass by before it walks across the road.

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<v Speaker 2>And as it passed.

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<v Speaker 3>My behind my van, I look behind over my left

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<v Speaker 3>shoulder and I see it walking up to the spob

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<v Speaker 3>wire fence. And I went there the day afterwards, and

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<v Speaker 3>the bob wire fences like up to my hip and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm six to one and this bob wire fence was

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<v Speaker 3>at its knees, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>How big it was. It just stepped over like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was nothing and just kept going and that was a freaky,

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<v Speaker 3>freaky one on my point because that because it was

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<v Speaker 3>only just a few miles from Springfield, Oregon, it was

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<v Speaker 3>really weird. Then I was up in Shock or the

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<v Speaker 3>Shotgun Creek area of the Wirehouser Tree farm area, which

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<v Speaker 3>is right by Marcolo, and I just witnessed or watched

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<v Speaker 3>and investigated this bronco had been.

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<v Speaker 2>Overturned in this area.

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<v Speaker 3>And I went through that area several times, and the

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<v Speaker 3>bronco had been flipped off the road, like something came

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<v Speaker 3>to the side of it and flipped it off the rope.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I investigated the first time, the window looked

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<v Speaker 3>like someone had put a shotgun up to the windshield

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<v Speaker 3>from the end. I fired out, and this thing had

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<v Speaker 3>been rolled off the thing because the way the tracks were,

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<v Speaker 3>you could just see the pivots in the dirt where

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<v Speaker 3>something just flip the truck off the road.

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<v Speaker 2>And I go back there a couple days later, and

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<v Speaker 2>now that bronco is another one hundred yards into the

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<v Speaker 2>woods and had been flipped over a a three foot

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<v Speaker 2>thick fallen tree.

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<v Speaker 3>So that freaked me out a little bit, but I

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<v Speaker 3>kept going. And so I go to this one area

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<v Speaker 3>and I was just like, Okay, this is a good area.

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<v Speaker 3>I see some trees here, there's a fallen tree over here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to put up an apple trap. And something

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<v Speaker 3>just told me this was like a really good spot.

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<v Speaker 3>And this happened almost every time I had my sasquatch

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<v Speaker 3>experiences in Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I noticed as I got out that.

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<v Speaker 3>There was these large footsteps imprints in the grass going

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<v Speaker 3>from the clearing where I was to where the fallen

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<v Speaker 3>tree was right and I had a hop from one

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<v Speaker 3>step to the other, and it looked like something had

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<v Speaker 3>literally broke a lot of the branches off underneath and

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<v Speaker 3>slept there. And I was just like, wow, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So I go over to the other area where to

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<v Speaker 2>Between these trees. One of them is a really large.

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<v Speaker 3>Pine tree, I think it's like a ponderosa pine tree,

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<v Speaker 3>and the other there was another one, and then there

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<v Speaker 3>was a smaller pine tree that was just covered in

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<v Speaker 2>But when I walked under there, there.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a ton of baby pine netals branches. Someone went

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<v Speaker 3>like a Mattie right, and you could see in the

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<v Speaker 3>impressions that there were two small, all humanoid impressions and

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<v Speaker 3>two large impressions, all like in the fetal position. Now, Dear,

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<v Speaker 3>don't do that. Dear, won't collect stuff and put it

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<v Speaker 3>but the camera I had was like everything was blurry

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<v Speaker 3>so I went and started doing the apple trap just

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<v Speaker 3>and I was hearing a stifled breathing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like when you're hiding and playing hide and

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<v Speaker 2>You're excited, but you're trying to stifle it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was just like, I finished the apple trap,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I walked.

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<v Speaker 2>Off to go to my camera or my car to get.

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<v Speaker 3>A camera, right, and this time I bought just one

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<v Speaker 3>of the little clicky throwaway cameras because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>And I knew.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking there's probably a sasquatch or at least

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<v Speaker 3>a black bear. And I see this dough prancing, literally

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<v Speaker 3>prancing the beautiful days. She's doing the whole peppy of

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<v Speaker 3>the pew skunk prancing thing, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to take a picture of this really quickly,

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<v Speaker 3>and she freezes and looks at me because I'm in.

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<v Speaker 3>And she looks down at my hands and notice there's

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<v Speaker 3>no gun or boat or anything like that, just a camera.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think she's seen enough hunters to recognize I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't the threat. And she starts prancing around the same

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<v Speaker 3>trees I was just at and I go around to

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<v Speaker 3>get a better picture of her, and just as I

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<v Speaker 3>was about to click the photo, she looks up to

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<v Speaker 3>the tree where the breathing was coming from. She stopped

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<v Speaker 3>dead in her tracks, looked up, her eyes just went wide,

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<v Speaker 3>and she dropped her ears, spun her and then bolted.

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<v Speaker 3>She's looking back at what's up in that tree and

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<v Speaker 3>not knowing what she's running at. She was that terrified,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was running at me, and I had to

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<v Speaker 3>over by a dough.

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<v Speaker 2>And as soon as I looked when she was running,

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<v Speaker 2>I hear this bo I mean, something like seven eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred pounds just fell out of the tree and landed

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground. And I turned and I see this

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<v Speaker 3>And I raced to the hill because it's a large

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<v Speaker 3>slope that goes down about seventy yards and then there's

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<v Speaker 3>and there's just nothing but like fern bushes, and then

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<v Speaker 3>there's the tree line, and most of the trees right

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<v Speaker 3>at that area are about ten fifteen foot tall saplings,

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<v Speaker 3>pine trees, and all of a sudden, and when I

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<v Speaker 3>got there, I looked up to the tree line and

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<v Speaker 3>I see this big black mass that as tall as

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<v Speaker 3>those trees barreling into them. And it wasn't a bear

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<v Speaker 3>because it wasn't on a time on its fore legs,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's how bears run. And this thing was fully upright,

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<v Speaker 3>and its shoulders had to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be oh geez, at least four feet wide.

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<v Speaker 3>At the most, or not the most, but just at

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<v Speaker 3>least that this thing was massively cute. That was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the other encounters I had, which was pretty trippy

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<v Speaker 3>in my point of view about a quarter mile to

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<v Speaker 3>the south of that. Me and my son at that

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<v Speaker 3>time were I was explaining how to do some tracking

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<v Speaker 3>here and there and stuff, and showing them what kind

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<v Speaker 3>of bushes and what kind of things plants that are

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<v Speaker 3>around that Deer would he eat, bears would eat stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that, And this area has been known for also.

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<v Speaker 2>People shooting guns.

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<v Speaker 3>And we hear this gun shot right and I was

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<v Speaker 3>just like, what the heck was that? And then all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, from the tree behind us, we hear

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<v Speaker 3>this foo foom boom running away from us. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was with my son and I was like, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to go chase the sasquatch because I knew

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<v Speaker 3>it was probably one, but he was young enough I

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<v Speaker 3>still didn't want to do anything. So that was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the possible encounters. A year or so later, he

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<v Speaker 3>got older, he had a friend, so I took them

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<v Speaker 3>down to the see I think it was the Blue

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<v Speaker 3>School Mountain area.

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<v Speaker 2>It's now no longer dense tree land and stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 2>overgrown with houses and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And I took them to this area to teach them

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<v Speaker 3>how to track animals.

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<v Speaker 2>And as we're going along.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm explaining, if you guys see bears, don't overreact get

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<v Speaker 3>near me, blah blah blah. You see elk or beer,

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<v Speaker 3>don't piss off the buck because they will stomp on you.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's see if there's a sasquatch, do not screaming.

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<v Speaker 2>Point right.

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<v Speaker 3>I iterated that to him so much, and I left

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<v Speaker 3>a big pile of dried cranberries near our van just

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<v Speaker 3>so I could possibly get some footsteps or footprints and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And we walked off and then we're coming back an

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<v Speaker 3>hour later. And I just felt there was a like

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<v Speaker 3>this presence around us that when I go camping, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't carry guns. I usually carry a sword and a teaser, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because with the taser you could clack it in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've driven bears away from me instantly with those

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<v Speaker 3>things because they can feel the electricity in the air

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<v Speaker 3>and everything knows.

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<v Speaker 2>What lightning is, and they run away. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>pulled out my sword and I started walking ahead to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure the coast was clear. And that's when I

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<v Speaker 2>hear my son's friend Russell greg there.

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<v Speaker 3>Is any points and I'm seeing this black mass disappeared

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<v Speaker 3>into this sappening, right, and this thing is at least

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<v Speaker 3>eight feet high, and for I do not know what

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<v Speaker 3>came over me, but I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Charged right at it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was instant chasing this thing because it was near

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<v Speaker 3>my kid, and the parental instinct just kicked in right,

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<v Speaker 3>So I went charging in and I realized after about

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<v Speaker 3>twenty feet in that, oh god, I just left my

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<v Speaker 3>son on the road back there, the little dirt road.

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<v Speaker 3>And I look behind me and here he is right

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<v Speaker 3>on my butt when he has this camping knife I

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<v Speaker 3>got him. That's like about eighteen inches long.

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<v Speaker 2>That of the blade is that was like a scimitar sheet.

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<v Speaker 2>He has that thing out like a swordies chasing me,

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<v Speaker 2>and he.

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<v Speaker 3>Told me if anything would have attacked me, he would

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<v Speaker 3>have just instantly came in at it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought that was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But we I break through the tree line and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a ditch running alongside the road where like when water

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<v Speaker 3>runoff goes, that's the way it goes. And it's about

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<v Speaker 3>a twenty foot distance from where I was to the

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<v Speaker 3>actual road, and I look over and I could see

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<v Speaker 3>that something had literally landed like two gigantic feet like

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<v Speaker 3>a broad like when you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>The running jumps in track. It just two feet landed

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<v Speaker 2>and the dirt was still going and I can hear

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<v Speaker 2>it off into the bushes. That was another sighting.

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<v Speaker 3>Then there was one where I got word from some

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<v Speaker 3>people about the guy and his buddies used to go

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<v Speaker 3>hunting in a certain area until a bunch of sasquatches

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<v Speaker 3>scared him out of the area.

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<v Speaker 2>And these guys go bear hunting all the time. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's just okay, awesome, I'm going to go that way.

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<v Speaker 3>So I take these young eighteen year old kids with me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like teaching them about all sorts of things,

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<v Speaker 3>and we went up found like this fallen true that

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<v Speaker 3>was like an island inside these like thirty foot deep

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<v Speaker 3>BlackBerry bushes. Anyways, there was like about eight deer that

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<v Speaker 3>looked like they've been dismembered, the bones not on, and

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<v Speaker 3>they were in different stages of decomposition, right, and so

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<v Speaker 3>we're like, oh, that's pretty trippy. So I grabbed a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of bones to take to a biologist. And then

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<v Speaker 3>on our way back, right, we hear this thumping sound

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<v Speaker 3>because we're actually on a concrete road of forest road,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a hill to the right of us, like

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<v Speaker 3>a berm about oh, twenty five feet high, and I

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<v Speaker 3>can hear something paralleling us, and these are large bipedal footsteps.

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<v Speaker 2>So I pulled the guys to stop for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>There's stop.

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<v Speaker 3>We kept walking, then stop the footsteps stop. So that

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<v Speaker 3>kept on for a while until we got to the car.

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<v Speaker 3>And then everybody's taking their cigarette break and I have

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<v Speaker 3>my video camera and I'm filming this huge clearing that

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<v Speaker 3>they had just tree cutted a couple of weeks early.

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<v Speaker 3>And I looked down and apparently there was a young sasquatch,

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<v Speaker 3>probably fifteen years old, like kicking back behind one of

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<v Speaker 3>these stumps, using it as like a pillow, and it

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<v Speaker 3>got up until and peered over the stump to see

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<v Speaker 3>what was all the noise.

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<v Speaker 2>Because apparently a lot of these creatures have no clue

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<v Speaker 2>what a human is. It freaks them out just as

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<v Speaker 2>much as it does us, and it sees us. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, I turn around and I go, okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>don't freak out. Don't look all over the place. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's a sasquatch behind that stump. And they all looked,

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<v Speaker 2>and when I look, it's no longer there.

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<v Speaker 3>We went down there, and it's no longer there, so

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<v Speaker 3>it must have probably linked off and bolted or something

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<v Speaker 3>because it was gone. It was like a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>weeks later, I took those same guys and girl to

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<v Speaker 3>just a couple of miles south of Odell Lake in Oregon.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's say about thirty miles east of where we

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<v Speaker 3>were at Myrtle Point. And so I'm teaching them more

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<v Speaker 3>about tracking and stuff, and there was like this big

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<v Speaker 3>termite raiding log just sitting there, and so I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to explain to them how like a sasquatch would get

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<v Speaker 3>at the termites comparedtive to a bear, Right, I'd say

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<v Speaker 3>a bear would just rip open the thing with its

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<v Speaker 3>claws and then just lick up the termites as it goes,

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<v Speaker 3>where a sasquatch would probably rip out a chunk with

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<v Speaker 3>its hands and then use sticks to lure them on

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<v Speaker 3>and then eat them.

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<v Speaker 2>And as in then I'm explaining.

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<v Speaker 3>The tree fall, like all those people who have this

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<v Speaker 3>is a bigfoot home, that's just natural tree fall. I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen it so many times and they're not actual sasquatch ones, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like explaining how like the differences of markings

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<v Speaker 3>and like how you could tell that one sasquatch had

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00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:18.119
<v Speaker 3>went through and was smashing down trees on one area

427
00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:21.400
<v Speaker 3>compared to it to the rest, we're all natural tree

428
00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:26.759
<v Speaker 3>fall and weathering and winter had waited. And we hear

429
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:34.119
<v Speaker 3>this behind us, and I turned and looked, and there's

430
00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:39.279
<v Speaker 3>this about three and a half foot sasquatch standing there

431
00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:41.759
<v Speaker 3>in these mans Anita bushes, just looking at it.

432
00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.039
<v Speaker 2>It's like completely oblivious to what we were and he's

433
00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>completely curious.

434
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:50.480
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, guys, and they all look too,

435
00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:53.400
<v Speaker 3>and it realized we were staring at it, and it

436
00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:56.720
<v Speaker 3>doved and dived, but it squatted behind the bushes, and

437
00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:57.559
<v Speaker 3>as a little.

438
00:24:57.400 --> 00:24:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Kid, it's still curious and it still wanted to see

439
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:00.599
<v Speaker 2>what was going on.

440
00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:02.880
<v Speaker 3>So it was kind of like peeking over the top

441
00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:04.720
<v Speaker 3>of the bushes, but we could still see the top

442
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:09.039
<v Speaker 3>of its head easily. And then one of the guys, Noah,

443
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.680
<v Speaker 3>did the old stupid thing from the Ghostbusters movie, the

444
00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.440
<v Speaker 3>original where they yells.

445
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Get it to the ghost. That's what he tries to

446
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:23.279
<v Speaker 2>do to this creature. Now yells out the large whooping sound,

447
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:27.799
<v Speaker 2>really loud for such a little creature, and that's when

448
00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:31.200
<v Speaker 2>we hear this thump coming over the hill side, and

449
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I realized that as a pissed off parent, and we

450
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<v Speaker 2>are all going to die.

451
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.039
<v Speaker 3>So I grabbed the guys and just started throwing them

452
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<v Speaker 3>basically towards the car in the same run, because that's

453
00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:46.440
<v Speaker 3>the last thing I wanted to be able to explain

454
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:48.920
<v Speaker 3>to a shriver. Yeah, they got stopped by a bigfoot.

455
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<v Speaker 3>We all ran down to the car, got into Bronco,

456
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:57.359
<v Speaker 3>and then drobble. So they were explaining how heavy the

457
00:25:57.400 --> 00:25:59.920
<v Speaker 3>footsteps were. The rest of the people where we lived.

458
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<v Speaker 3>And the fat guy that was with.

459
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Us, he's I could got four hundred pounds, and he

460
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:08.759
<v Speaker 2>was amazing how fast he ran. I will tell you

461
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:09.640
<v Speaker 2>that right now.

462
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:12.200
<v Speaker 3>But he's trying to like jump up and stomp up

463
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:15.039
<v Speaker 3>and down and stuff like that, and he didn't even

464
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.519
<v Speaker 3>get close to the sound of the weight. Then one

465
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<v Speaker 3>of the other incidents is I had I was going

466
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:25.640
<v Speaker 3>out and I was going on my way to investigate

467
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:27.599
<v Speaker 3>another bigfoot site.

468
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 2>And I had to stop and urinate.

469
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:35.559
<v Speaker 3>So I was driving along and I see this little

470
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.920
<v Speaker 3>clearing in the trees right alongside the road, and I

471
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:42.839
<v Speaker 3>got pulled my Bronco off the road and this is

472
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:48.200
<v Speaker 3>like a dirt forest road and there's a little outcropping

473
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<v Speaker 3>cliff right there.

474
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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, Okay, I'll just pee off the cliff,

475
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:57.279
<v Speaker 2>no big deal. And so I decided as I started to.

476
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<v Speaker 3>Urinate, and the cliff is probably about fifteen feet down,

477
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:05.720
<v Speaker 3>and then it's a slope, a good sixty degree slope

478
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:07.599
<v Speaker 3>for another one hundred and fifty yards, and then it's

479
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:11.160
<v Speaker 3>another forestry clearing where they had cleared out the logs

480
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:12.119
<v Speaker 3>and trees and stuff.

481
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:17.920
<v Speaker 2>And as soon as I started peeing, I goes literally

482
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:20.720
<v Speaker 2>that was the sound, and I'm like, oh, I think

483
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I peede on something. And I looked down and here's

484
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:27.160
<v Speaker 2>this sasquatch, all pissed off and looking at me like

485
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>you just peed on me.

486
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.519
<v Speaker 3>And we then it only it was like just a

487
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.240
<v Speaker 3>split second, and then we both realized what we were

488
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:42.680
<v Speaker 3>looking at. And the creature, the sasquatch, forced himself against

489
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:47.359
<v Speaker 3>the cliffs so he couldn't be seen. And I'm sitting

490
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 3>there and I basically just stopped urinating of what just happened,

491
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.359
<v Speaker 3>and I moved to the left, and like I said,

492
00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:58.200
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like an outcropping and it sees me

493
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 3>and it shone over to the right side and I'm like, oh,

494
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:05.319
<v Speaker 3>I gotta go get my video camera. And that's when

495
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I started hearing the loud whooping sound. And I looked

496
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.400
<v Speaker 3>to my right or my left as I turned to

497
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.759
<v Speaker 3>go get my camera, and here's another sasquatch running.

498
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Up the hill.

499
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:20.000
<v Speaker 3>And this one is a very slender one, probably about

500
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:24.680
<v Speaker 3>five feet tall i'd say maybe two hundred pounds right.

501
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:27.680
<v Speaker 3>And I know it's not the one down below the

502
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:30.160
<v Speaker 3>cliff because I just had.

503
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Turned and I was running towards the car.

504
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:38.839
<v Speaker 3>Realized that I had not finished taking care of myself,

505
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 3>so I had to do that really fast.

506
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's when I hear this sounded like King Kong

507
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.759
<v Speaker 2>running down the mountain side towards me in my vehicle,

508
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.680
<v Speaker 2>and it was like no roaring or anything, just stomping

509
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>and smashing trees. And I was like freaking out and

510
00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 2>I drove away. That one was a very intensive experience

511
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:08.119
<v Speaker 2>on that one, okay, and then what was that other one?

512
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Talking about those.

513
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:14.240
<v Speaker 3>Ones just made me forget that last one. But anyways,

514
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 3>is there any questions you got?

515
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

516
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, My goodness, Craig, that's some amazing accounts.

517
00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:22.440
<v Speaker 2>And that's not even the other paranormal stuff I had

518
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>to deal with.

519
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm absolutely sure that there's other stuff. If you're experiencing

520
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:29.599
<v Speaker 1>this stuff on the big foot side, there's probably a

521
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of other stuff too. When you had your ten

522
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:37.319
<v Speaker 1>year old experience, what year was that? Approximately nineteen eighty?

523
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool?

524
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Great about your your experience with you and your buddies

525
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Greg and Sean. Have you or them ever gone through

526
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:53.759
<v Speaker 1>any hypnosis to try to unlock what happened that night?

527
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.319
<v Speaker 3>No? Actually I never have, but I've been wanting to

528
00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 3>think of it. I was like trying to think about

529
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:01.119
<v Speaker 3>maybe I should.

530
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>But as I think about it now, I think I

531
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:05.680
<v Speaker 2>know what had happened.

532
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:09.920
<v Speaker 3>But I actually have not gone through hypno's therapy to

533
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>get the memories unlocked.

534
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Gotcha?

535
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Have you talked to either of those friends later on

536
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>in life as adults.

537
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.720
<v Speaker 3>No. I lost contact with Sean as soon as he

538
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:27.599
<v Speaker 3>left Colorado because I was a young boy and his

539
00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:29.759
<v Speaker 3>dad was so upset with us.

540
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:31.839
<v Speaker 2>Or drew guards to him.

541
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:35.000
<v Speaker 3>He demanded to go back home immediately, and I was

542
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:38.079
<v Speaker 3>just like, I tried to explain him to him what happened,

543
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.400
<v Speaker 3>and he basically took it like a grain of salt.

544
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 3>He was just like, Okay, and then Greg his family

545
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 3>had left Colorado for a few years. He came back

546
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:54.319
<v Speaker 3>when I was like about sixteen, and then I tried

547
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:57.000
<v Speaker 3>to talk to him about it, and he's like looking

548
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.559
<v Speaker 3>at me like he's upset, pissed off.

549
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you need. I don't want to

550
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 2>talk about that kind of attitude.

551
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:08.319
<v Speaker 3>I just dropped it from there, and that was with him,

552
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.240
<v Speaker 3>and then I lost contact with him when I was

553
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 3>about seventeen because his family moved out of Colorado again.

554
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, when you were walking that girl home? Was that

555
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>on Crystal Hill Boulevard in Manitou Springs.

556
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>I think so it was. Let's see, it was a

557
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 2>very dimly lit. It was like it was the one

558
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>main road.

559
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.480
<v Speaker 3>That kind of went up and I was about half

560
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 3>mile to a quarter mile up the hill from when

561
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:42.039
<v Speaker 3>it turned off from Manitou Springs Boulevard.

562
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, Yeah, because if you look at a map of it,

563
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.359
<v Speaker 1>it looks like that one road goes right up into

564
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.799
<v Speaker 1>the woods and there's even a trailhead at the end

565
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>of it where.

566
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there, it goes all the way up. And we've

567
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>been up to some of the cabins that are up there,

568
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:01.799
<v Speaker 2>and if I remember there was a pond up there,

569
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:04.559
<v Speaker 2>and this is all before the actual trailheads and stuff.

570
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:08.359
<v Speaker 3>Man two has definitely changed a lot since I was

571
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.319
<v Speaker 3>last there. It's just some many of the things I

572
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 3>grew up with aren't there anymore, or buildings now cover

573
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 3>up half the mountain and just so I'm just like, oh, okay,

574
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 3>Like the cog railway's gone, but they left.

575
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>The stairway nice.

576
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:32.039
<v Speaker 1>That's weird. What campus specifically of Central Oregon Community College was.

577
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:36.240
<v Speaker 2>That it was the one in West Bend.

578
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 3>So there's a city called Bend, Oregon, and it was

579
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:46.200
<v Speaker 3>on the western side of it, and at that point

580
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 3>in time, that was the west of the city. There

581
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 3>was no buildings or houses west of that. Now there's

582
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:57.559
<v Speaker 3>all sorts of communities out there.

583
00:32:57.640 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 2>It just ease, but it was.

584
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:03.480
<v Speaker 3>We just called it it was the Central Oregon Community College.

585
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.279
<v Speaker 3>But it's I think there was a circle k you

586
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:13.960
<v Speaker 3>went off of what was that road, Oh, not Kingston Newton.

587
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:18.319
<v Speaker 3>I think it started with an N. But you drive

588
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.440
<v Speaker 3>down that road and there was a circle k, and

589
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 3>then you took a right and it's a road that

590
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.680
<v Speaker 3>goes up a hill and then that's where the community

591
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:29.960
<v Speaker 3>of college was and you went through the college area

592
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.920
<v Speaker 3>on that one road and there was an apartment complex

593
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 3>called the Regency Apartments.

594
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:37.160
<v Speaker 2>And that's where me and my friend lived.

595
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha? And what year would that have been approximately?

596
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>That was I think nineteen eighty.

597
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Eight, gotcha? Okay. Then we mentioned Marcola for quite a bit,

598
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>which has come up on the show at least once.

599
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Speaker 1>So I talked to a older into visual about he

600
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 1>had similar things happen. So everything that you mentioned about Marcola,

601
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.039
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Yeah, this totally tracks. It's out in

602
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:10.039
<v Speaker 1>the sticks right north of Yeah.

603
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 2>When I was Yeah, when I was out there, it's

604
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 2>like northeast or northeast by east of Eugene Springfield about

605
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:21.679
<v Speaker 2>I think it's fifteen miles or something like that. It

606
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.079
<v Speaker 2>takes you a while to drive out there.

607
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 3>And like I used to talk to my friend and

608
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 3>their neighbors, their dogs would be barking and barking because

609
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:33.440
<v Speaker 3>they'd hear something in the creek.

610
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 2>And when it gets closer, the barking stops and then

611
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the whining starts.

612
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.199
<v Speaker 3>And we had one evening where me and my friend

613
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.440
<v Speaker 3>are in his house and we're talking and he has

614
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 3>to take his pit pull outside because the dog is.

615
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Not well human trained at all.

616
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 3>It'll tear up dogs, it'll tear up a bear, It'll

617
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 3>tear up humans if it can. They trained it to

618
00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:00.639
<v Speaker 3>be literally a hyper aggressive attack dog. So when we

619
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:04.719
<v Speaker 3>come over, he has to go put it in its cage.

620
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:08.320
<v Speaker 3>It's not like a small pen. It's like a fifteenth

621
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:12.880
<v Speaker 3>by fifteen foot fence that's about ten feet high, right,

622
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:17.400
<v Speaker 3>just chain link fence. And we're sitting there watching the show,

623
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:19.159
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, you hearing all the dogs

624
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.360
<v Speaker 3>start barking right, and then all of a sudden, you

625
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.920
<v Speaker 3>hear his dog barking and then instantly goes to a

626
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:30.280
<v Speaker 3>like a yelping whine, like he is terrified. And next

627
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.599
<v Speaker 3>thing you know, as you hear in him trying to

628
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.559
<v Speaker 3>scramble over the chain link fence, and then we hear

629
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:39.800
<v Speaker 3>the stump and then he's scratching at the door, so

630
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:44.760
<v Speaker 3>he was terrified. I did have one other encounter down

631
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.800
<v Speaker 3>in Phoenix, or not Phoenix, but a cave creek, Oregon.

632
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it was a sasquatch or not.

633
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of weird paranormal areas that were down

634
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:58.000
<v Speaker 2>in the area. And me and two other friends.

635
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:04.599
<v Speaker 3>Our forefronts were actually there's me, Tim and Jason, and

636
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:08.000
<v Speaker 3>we were down at the base of this thing called

637
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:14.199
<v Speaker 3>what was that canyon called Christopher Creek I think is

638
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:16.320
<v Speaker 3>what the actual creek was, because there was all these

639
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 3>waterfalls that you can do, you can cliff jump off

640
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.199
<v Speaker 3>and stuff, and that's why we go there. And we

641
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 3>were camping in one area by there and he, my

642
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 3>friend Tim, the second Tim actually had about a two

643
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 3>hundred pounds show. Now, this dog was not afraid of anything.

644
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:38.039
<v Speaker 3>He would go after habilinez, he go after anything, and

645
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:41.400
<v Speaker 3>he was a big tough dog. We're sitting all in

646
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.519
<v Speaker 3>the tent talking and stuff, and next saying we know

647
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 3>we hear this kind of like thumping sound around the tent,

648
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:53.880
<v Speaker 3>but it was in the good distance away, and that's

649
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:57.719
<v Speaker 3>when the chow just busts right through the tent and

650
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:01.559
<v Speaker 3>starts hiding behind his master, trembling and whining.

651
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:06.239
<v Speaker 2>So that was it for that one. But continue with

652
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:06.840
<v Speaker 2>your questions.

653
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>That's very interesting because before you brought that up, literally

654
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>like half a second or half a minute, I had

655
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:18.079
<v Speaker 1>written down ask about Green Peter Reservoir, which is in

656
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the same area, but that it's further.

657
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Out than Green Peter in Arizona.

658
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>No, you were talking about Were you talking about Cave

659
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Creek Organ.

660
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:29.400
<v Speaker 3>No?

661
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you were talking about Cave Creek, Arizona.

662
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.880
<v Speaker 3>No, Crystal Creek, Arizona. It's a creek in by paysin Arizona.

663
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay.

664
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:41.639
<v Speaker 3>So if you drive up from Phoenix and you go

665
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.519
<v Speaker 3>to Payson, there's a main road you take right going

666
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 3>east and it takes you east and then there's a

667
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.400
<v Speaker 3>road like it was a dirt road that take you

668
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.920
<v Speaker 3>off and down into the mountains or down to the creek.

669
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:57.800
<v Speaker 3>But now and you look at the maps, it's kind

670
00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 3>of filled with houses and stuff like that.

671
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.039
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. So that's actually closer to the Grand Canyon.

672
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:08.840
<v Speaker 3>It looks like, I show, don't know, let's see where

673
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:13.480
<v Speaker 3>was Grand Canyon compared to Phoenix, because it's like you

674
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.079
<v Speaker 3>go up out of the actual because if you've ever

675
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:21.559
<v Speaker 3>been to Arizona, right, you got the mountain green mountains

676
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:23.679
<v Speaker 3>like thing, and then it just you go to this

677
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.760
<v Speaker 3>edge and it literally looks like the mountain the land

678
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:31.480
<v Speaker 3>has dropped a few thousand feet, like just sheer cliffs.

679
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:31.840
<v Speaker 2>All the way down.

680
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.280
<v Speaker 3>You go for miles and miles and then that's where

681
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 3>the Desert of Phoenix and all that stuff is interesting.

682
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, very cool, very cool. Let me see here. Okay,

683
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:49.679
<v Speaker 1>the question I had put down about Marcola is you

684
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 1>had mentioned there was a history of other people in

685
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the town seeing sasquatch. Yes, Are there other things then

686
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that you've heard about experiences in that area?

687
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:03.880
<v Speaker 2>No, not really.

688
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.679
<v Speaker 3>I've heard of the just the Sasquatches from a few

689
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.400
<v Speaker 3>of the people I've talked to, and they're like, my friend.

690
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Over here, they saw one crossing their yard and that

691
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:14.519
<v Speaker 2>sort of stuff.

692
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 3>But I mainly was going out there to pick him

693
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:22.639
<v Speaker 3>up and then going up down up to the wirehouserd

694
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 3>Tree Farm, which is the Shotgun Creek area of Oregon

695
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:31.760
<v Speaker 3>up by Marcola, to go do my experiments in my

696
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 3>walking around and all that stuff in research, because like me,

697
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:38.400
<v Speaker 3>I was a big fan of Jane Goodall.

698
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I watched all the documentary's writer books, and the one

699
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 2>thing that was persistently there was her persistently going into

700
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.199
<v Speaker 2>areas before she even got to know any of the

701
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:54.639
<v Speaker 2>chimps and just sit there and watched and listened.

702
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.320
<v Speaker 3>And then the chimps started coming around because they grew

703
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:03.840
<v Speaker 3>call and confident with her presence that she wasn't a threat.

704
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.159
<v Speaker 3>And that's basically what I kept going up there for

705
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.480
<v Speaker 3>was to make sure that I was at a calm

706
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:14.719
<v Speaker 3>presence and stuff I'd bring up, like a radio with

707
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Didi do music, different kinds of musics to try to

708
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.719
<v Speaker 3>lure animals out. And the one that lured deer out

709
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:28.199
<v Speaker 3>left and right was bagpipe music. Don't ask me why,

710
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:33.280
<v Speaker 3>just remember played the bagpipe music and within twenty minutes,

711
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:34.840
<v Speaker 3>just like I heard of deer coming up.

712
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.159
<v Speaker 2>What does that sound out here? And it's just I

713
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:41.440
<v Speaker 2>wonder if they're like thinking, Hey, that's cousin, Jed, that's funny.

714
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>How long do you think it took, let's say, using

715
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:50.239
<v Speaker 1>that that Jane Goodall method of just hanging out in

716
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>an area before you started to have some activity, if any.

717
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:59.199
<v Speaker 2>Most of them were me just driving up into that

718
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:03.840
<v Speaker 2>area and over again. And the spread of the areas

719
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>themselves I would say was probably a few square miles.

720
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 2>But they were like different, I mean, they had to

721
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 2>be different sasquatches because the size and the proportions of them,

722
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:19.519
<v Speaker 2>what they looked like.

723
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh there was one other sighting that I did forget

724
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 3>to mention and that was the day I saw another one,

725
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.920
<v Speaker 3>but this one was so fast. It was incredibly fast,

726
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:34.920
<v Speaker 3>and I had camouflage my bronco, like with Army Camo.

727
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:38.159
<v Speaker 3>And I'm driving up the road and there's.

728
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 2>This sasquatch sitting on the side of the road.

729
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 3>And it's like a three foot burm that he's on

730
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.920
<v Speaker 3>and he's looking at an area where you can see

731
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.760
<v Speaker 3>it's a large deer trail. The herds go up and down,

732
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:53.159
<v Speaker 3>and he looks over and he sees my bronco because

733
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:56.480
<v Speaker 3>it's out of the movement of his eye, and he

734
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 3>basically didn't think about it because I had camouflage. All

735
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 3>the chrome, the bumpers, everything was Army camo, not the

736
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:10.960
<v Speaker 3>new single digital camouflage, but the old green brown, tan

737
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:15.440
<v Speaker 3>light green loam, that kind of painting. And I've actually

738
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:18.000
<v Speaker 3>drove it up to were deer in the road and

739
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:20.119
<v Speaker 3>they just stop and there like looking at me, and

740
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 3>then they see me as a human and then they

741
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:24.280
<v Speaker 3>run off. But he just kind of took one look,

742
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:27.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't think about it for about a second and a half,

743
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:28.599
<v Speaker 3>and then he looked and noticing that.

744
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:31.800
<v Speaker 2>The bushes driving up the road, and that's when he

745
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:33.199
<v Speaker 2>got up and took off.

746
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 3>And ran, and he must have did one hundred yards

747
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:38.239
<v Speaker 3>in about five seconds.

748
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 2>It was that fast. And that thing was probably it

749
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:48.000
<v Speaker 2>did seven feet tall, so you.

750
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Actually got to see it cover one hundred yards in

751
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:55.280
<v Speaker 1>a few seconds. How would you describe how would you

752
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>describe the way that it was running.

753
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:03.360
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of fallen logs everywhere, and like I

754
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:07.280
<v Speaker 3>said it, there's a lot of old growth. And because

755
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:10.280
<v Speaker 3>it had longer arms, it would run on off on

756
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:13.360
<v Speaker 3>its hind legs. As soon as it got near a

757
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.599
<v Speaker 3>log it's it would just like instantly kind of curl

758
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 3>his legs up for a split second as he uses

759
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:22.199
<v Speaker 3>those arms to go straight over it, and then instantly back.

760
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.199
<v Speaker 2>But the thing was is that they didn't run with

761
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:26.760
<v Speaker 2>their arms like what we do.

762
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.480
<v Speaker 3>If you ever see like those marathon runners where they're

763
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:33.039
<v Speaker 3>so exhausted, their arms are just kind of like hanging

764
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.079
<v Speaker 3>at their waist, but they're still going back and forth

765
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:36.480
<v Speaker 3>a little bit.

766
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:38.159
<v Speaker 2>And that's the way this thing ran.

767
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:41.719
<v Speaker 3>But it was so fast because I had raced up

768
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:46.079
<v Speaker 3>to where he was and he was only about thirty

769
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:48.679
<v Speaker 3>yards for me, and I was in my broncos so

770
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:51.920
<v Speaker 3>I went as soon as he started going, I stopped

771
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:55.199
<v Speaker 3>and I tried to get a picture with this crappy

772
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:57.840
<v Speaker 3>camera that I was telling you about that like everything's

773
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.119
<v Speaker 3>blurry and so oh.

774
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.199
<v Speaker 2>I got a picture of just at the back of

775
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:05.239
<v Speaker 2>his head. And it was that fast. It was just

776
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:07.840
<v Speaker 2>like so quick. It was insanely fast.

777
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Could you notice any specific movements that were being done

778
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:17.320
<v Speaker 1>by its legs while it was running.

779
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:22.639
<v Speaker 3>For those that like second and a half that I

780
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 3>actually saw. Yeah, his legs were not like chimp feet

781
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:32.960
<v Speaker 3>or legs. They weren't like normal apes. These were designed

782
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:36.840
<v Speaker 3>for walking a long periods like arms, and its legs

783
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 3>were probably i'd say about two thirds the length of

784
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:46.800
<v Speaker 3>their arms. And he just he didn't have a motion

785
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:50.039
<v Speaker 3>like most people say they have this broken gate kind

786
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.199
<v Speaker 3>of thing where their legs are always bent.

787
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.920
<v Speaker 2>No, this thing was so fast. It was just like

788
00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:56.920
<v Speaker 2>it was gone.

789
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>A lot of witnesses we'll say something to the effect

790
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>of it seemed to be gliding or making a gliding

791
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>motion when it was moving. Was there anything like that present?

792
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:16.519
<v Speaker 2>No, No, it was like it's like its head didn't

793
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:19.599
<v Speaker 2>like bob up and down. But it was so fast,

794
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:20.840
<v Speaker 2>and it just.

795
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Moved so quickly that the only thing I could think

796
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 3>of is when, like we would if I ran that territory,

797
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:31.559
<v Speaker 3>that straight line, I would have actually had been jumping

798
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:36.119
<v Speaker 3>over a man's needed bushes, jumping over logs and stuff

799
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 3>like that, and this thing just went straight through him

800
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:39.719
<v Speaker 3>like it was nothing.

801
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:45.519
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that would be fantastic to see. At any point

802
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:48.440
<v Speaker 1>during any of these stories, there's a few times when

803
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:52.119
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned like you're trying to get video or photographing photos.

804
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Were you able at any point to get any video

805
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:58.679
<v Speaker 1>footage or photos of what.

806
00:45:58.800 --> 00:45:59.639
<v Speaker 2>You really did?

807
00:45:59.800 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Have?

808
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:04.360
<v Speaker 2>One video that I had, which was the one behind

809
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:08.039
<v Speaker 2>a stump. Now here's the weird thing is about three

810
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:11.519
<v Speaker 2>days after that, apparently I forgot to lock the house.

811
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Me and my wife and kids had went out for

812
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:17.880
<v Speaker 2>lunch and then hang out the arcade at the mall.

813
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 3>We came back and here's this one guy. His name

814
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:26.400
<v Speaker 3>was Scottie, and he's not all the way there in

815
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:32.800
<v Speaker 3>the head, right, but he's extremely nice person and very trustworthy, right,

816
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:39.400
<v Speaker 3>and he's got like a split personality issue. But he's

817
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:42.199
<v Speaker 3>like sitting it right in front of my house on

818
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.039
<v Speaker 3>the curb, and I was like, what's up, Scotty's I

819
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 3>came over to talk to you. I knocked on your door.

820
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Before I knocked on your door, I seen your door open.

821
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.159
<v Speaker 2>I didn't go inside. I wanted to know if you

822
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.480
<v Speaker 2>were homeshow. I said, oh, you there, Greg, but you

823
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:56.719
<v Speaker 2>want homeshow. I decided to sit here and make sure

824
00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 2>nobody got in your home.

825
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:02.159
<v Speaker 3>And I was just like, oh okay, So we instantly,

826
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:05.079
<v Speaker 3>me and my wife walked in and started looking at

827
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:09.280
<v Speaker 3>all the Valueles TVs there, the Xbox is there, the

828
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:14.440
<v Speaker 3>PlayStation's there, or all her jewelries there. Nothing had been ransick.

829
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:18.920
<v Speaker 3>The only thing that was gone was the one videotape

830
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:21.400
<v Speaker 3>that I made of the bigfoot thing.

831
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:27.679
<v Speaker 2>But I do have the one photo of the one

832
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:30.519
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch that ran off so fast and I got the

833
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:33.559
<v Speaker 2>back of his head. Cau It's like I said, I

834
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 2>had this little camera. I'm pretty sure it was called

835
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 2>the Phaser, even though I can't find it online anywhere anymore.

836
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:44.840
<v Speaker 2>But this thing was a ten dollars pos and you

837
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 2>just pointed and shoot.

838
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:48.480
<v Speaker 3>There's no focus, sing or anything like that. It looks

839
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:53.199
<v Speaker 3>like a little laser gun. That was the one actual

840
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:54.920
<v Speaker 3>photo I actually was able.

841
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 2>To take of it. And then yeah, it was so

842
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I got that. But what I did was I drew

843
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.360
<v Speaker 2>and the sketches of a lot of the actual incidentss

844
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 2>of what I saw.

845
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:15.719
<v Speaker 3>And I've been interviewed by the Southern Texas Bigfoot company

846
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 3>or group, and I.

847
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Gave them the sketchings. I gave sketchings to this other

848
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 2>film company.

849
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Then Charles Sasser contacted me because he was commissioned from

850
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.480
<v Speaker 3>his publisher to write a foot or a book about

851
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot and the people who researched them.

852
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:36.800
<v Speaker 2>And he contacted me and asked if he can do

853
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.760
<v Speaker 2>he can get an interview. So I did that and

854
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:44.400
<v Speaker 2>then sent him copies of those of the sketches as well.

855
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.000
<v Speaker 2>And then there was another two people that interview viewed

856
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.920
<v Speaker 2>me for YouTube that I did as well.

857
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.400
<v Speaker 3>And so I'm willing to send you the copies of

858
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:57.679
<v Speaker 3>those sketches and the photo if you want.

859
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would absolutely love that. I think that would

860
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.840
<v Speaker 1>be cool to put in the YouTube version. I don't

861
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:04.840
<v Speaker 1>know if you'd be okay with that.

862
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be funny. Like I said, the more people know,

863
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 2>the better it is. Now. I do have a few.

864
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:19.639
<v Speaker 3>Suggestions for the people who are researchers now and people

865
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:23.880
<v Speaker 3>who are wanting to research. One thing is get yourself

866
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:28.679
<v Speaker 3>a three sixty camera. Stop relying on cell phones, stop

867
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.519
<v Speaker 3>relying on just normal video cameras, because when you're moving

868
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:36.400
<v Speaker 3>that video camera around and that sasquat sees you pointing

869
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.320
<v Speaker 3>at it, it might think it's a weapon or something

870
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:42.840
<v Speaker 3>and hide. But now if you actually have a three

871
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.880
<v Speaker 3>sixty camera, like the one I have is an Insta

872
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 3>three sixty x three. They got better versions now, But

873
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.800
<v Speaker 3>what it does is it shoots film in two one

874
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 3>and eighty degree camera angles right one on.

875
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:00.760
<v Speaker 2>The front, one on the back. You just either put

876
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:01.960
<v Speaker 2>that on your head.

877
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Or you carry us the selfie pole that it has.

878
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.480
<v Speaker 3>And then they got a studio that you can just

879
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:13.000
<v Speaker 3>have it for automatically format to three sixty video and

880
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:16.639
<v Speaker 3>then you can go back to saying, okay, I'm starting

881
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:20.159
<v Speaker 3>it at this time on this date. And then and

882
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.760
<v Speaker 3>let's say you heard like a sasquatch or something. Instead

883
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.400
<v Speaker 3>of you looking at it and scaring it off, you

884
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.320
<v Speaker 3>can sit there and stop, have people pull out a

885
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:33.000
<v Speaker 3>little bit of food or something, and then just hold

886
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 3>the pole or set it up somewhere to where it's.

887
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Just watching a three to sixty.

888
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:41.559
<v Speaker 3>Video, and then you can go back and move your

889
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:45.920
<v Speaker 3>camera angle around via your screen by locking onto it,

890
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:49.159
<v Speaker 3>moving it around, and you'll be able to see the

891
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:53.679
<v Speaker 3>saucequatch chairs or whatever that's in that vicinity without actually

892
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:57.559
<v Speaker 3>having to turn. The other one is if you are

893
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.920
<v Speaker 3>with a large group of people, Okay, you're not going

894
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:03.840
<v Speaker 3>to see a saucequatch. Okay, those things are going to

895
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:07.079
<v Speaker 3>hear you coming and they're going to hide, they're going

896
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 3>to leave. I think they can smell gun oil and

897
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:13.880
<v Speaker 3>that's why they hunters rarely see them.

898
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:18.440
<v Speaker 2>But the best groups to have is about four people.

899
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Having a female in the group as well, I think

900
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:27.679
<v Speaker 3>is a very beneficial thing because I think her voice

901
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.639
<v Speaker 3>will basically drop down.

902
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Their defenses and they won't be uptight like there's about.

903
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.559
<v Speaker 3>The hunters and they'll be like, oh, there's a woman there,

904
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:41.079
<v Speaker 3>so let's check it out. But the biggest thing is

905
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:49.559
<v Speaker 3>if you hear a saucequatch miry, okay, stop, sit down, relax,

906
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 3>and then pretend to groom each other like what chimps

907
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:56.519
<v Speaker 3>and gorillas do, going through their hair and pretending to

908
00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:59.239
<v Speaker 3>pick out little mites and gnats and stuff like that

909
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:05.440
<v Speaker 3>and eat them. And to primates that's there. That's a

910
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:10.280
<v Speaker 3>mark of relaxation, like total relaxation. They're comfortable, they're relaxed

911
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.400
<v Speaker 3>in this area. So the sasquatch is going to see that.

912
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:17.920
<v Speaker 2>And be more relaxed because now you guys are relaxed,

913
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:20.880
<v Speaker 2>and heck, you may get lucky and have one come

914
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:22.599
<v Speaker 2>up and lay next to you and want to be

915
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:25.519
<v Speaker 2>groomed itself. That would probably be a big first on

916
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:29.920
<v Speaker 2>saftquatch research. But the largest one out of all is

917
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.800
<v Speaker 2>don't screaming point, because that's the worst thing you can do,

918
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.639
<v Speaker 2>is screaming point. Because you stare, you scare it, it's

919
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:40.239
<v Speaker 2>and then basically it's gone.

920
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 1>The that's some great advice. The grooming advice is very interesting.

921
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Is that something that you had figured out yourself from

922
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.039
<v Speaker 1>maybe your your research into Jane Goodall or is that

923
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:57.280
<v Speaker 1>something that you had picked up from another researcher.

924
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Actually it's a culmination of Jane Goodall's research, Diane Fosse's research.

925
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:08.880
<v Speaker 3>You probably no more of her work from the movie

926
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Gorilla in the Midst But then also all the other

927
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:18.960
<v Speaker 3>documentaries I have watched where the chimps or gorillas orangutans,

928
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:22.519
<v Speaker 3>any primates even in baboons. Once they get to an

929
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:26.719
<v Speaker 3>area where they feel comfortable and relax that's when they

930
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:31.119
<v Speaker 3>start grooming each other. And this one is helping build

931
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:36.280
<v Speaker 3>up bonds with each other, social hierarchy, in building up

932
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:39.400
<v Speaker 3>friendships and just getting those bugs out of your hair.

933
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:41.880
<v Speaker 2>But it's also a comforting factor.

934
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:44.519
<v Speaker 3>It's just like when women go to a beauty salon

935
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.639
<v Speaker 3>and getting their hair done and it's being washed and

936
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:51.559
<v Speaker 3>dried and relaxed. These women, and I'll tell you the truth,

937
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:53.719
<v Speaker 3>I've gone to a couple of the swans and with

938
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 3>my wife and did the same thing. It's very relaxing.

939
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:01.320
<v Speaker 3>So this is the way that you will be able

940
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:06.719
<v Speaker 3>to draw sasquatches out more because they will be relaxed

941
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:11.079
<v Speaker 3>showd knowing you're relaxed, you're not hunting, and they can

942
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:15.400
<v Speaker 3>come up closer and get a better view because one thing,

943
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:16.480
<v Speaker 3>they're curious.

944
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:17.920
<v Speaker 2>They are very curious.

945
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:21.960
<v Speaker 3>So if you have a three sixty camera that you're

946
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:25.360
<v Speaker 3>doing and then you hear this creature, if you could

947
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:28.559
<v Speaker 3>put it on a small tripod from between all of

948
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:30.920
<v Speaker 3>you guys while you're sitting there pretending to be grooming,

949
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:33.920
<v Speaker 3>you might get some extremely good.

950
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Footage and that is really good. That's really solid advice.

951
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:41.800
<v Speaker 1>That's probably some of the more solid advice you've gotten

952
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:44.199
<v Speaker 1>on this show. Thank you. I would love to hear

953
00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:49.199
<v Speaker 1>if anyone ever tries that and is successful. A few

954
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:54.000
<v Speaker 1>locations that came to mind that are in the general

955
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:58.920
<v Speaker 1>vicinity of the encounters that you've talked about. So maybe

956
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:01.519
<v Speaker 1>here at the end, let's throw some of them out

957
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:04.719
<v Speaker 1>here and see if you've ever heard anything about these areas.

958
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:07.760
<v Speaker 1>And if not, that's no problem. Fall Creek.

959
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:12.039
<v Speaker 2>That sounds really familiar.

960
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>That's by Lowell in Windbury in Lane County.

961
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Is that an Oregon or Washington?

962
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's an organ it's if you take fifty eight

963
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:27.400
<v Speaker 1>out of Eugene and then you go down to oak

964
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Ridge area.

965
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, yeah, No, I've never had that any sightings

966
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:36.320
<v Speaker 3>in that area.

967
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Like I've talked to people before.

968
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 3>The Bohemian Mining district I know, has a good rich

969
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:49.159
<v Speaker 3>history of Sasquatches there, Mountain ape devils is what some

970
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.760
<v Speaker 3>people have called them. One instant I was took my

971
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:56.400
<v Speaker 3>kid up to the top of the Bohemian Mountain. They

972
00:55:56.440 --> 00:55:59.000
<v Speaker 3>have a fire watch tower there and a big picnic

973
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:02.239
<v Speaker 3>table and we went up there a couple of different times,

974
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:05.559
<v Speaker 3>and the picnic table is a good six hundred pounds.

975
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:09.239
<v Speaker 3>These logs are six by six or six by fours.

976
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:13.880
<v Speaker 3>The whole thing is just solid. And I noticed one

977
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:17.119
<v Speaker 3>day when we had went up there that the table

978
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:20.599
<v Speaker 3>looked like it had been just completely flipped off the area,

979
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:25.920
<v Speaker 3>onto the cave, onto almost the road below, because if

980
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:28.480
<v Speaker 3>you had a bunch of people picking it up and

981
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:31.159
<v Speaker 3>trying to shuffle and chuck it, you would definitely see

982
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.239
<v Speaker 3>their footstep shuffling. There's sometimes I'm just walked up and

983
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:37.639
<v Speaker 3>just flipped it off, But that's not the real thing

984
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:38.000
<v Speaker 3>was that.

985
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:42.519
<v Speaker 2>I drove up there and I spoke at a conference in.

986
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Hillsboro about the differences of species of sasquatch, because there's not.

987
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Just one roaming around in America, but there's several.

988
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:56.239
<v Speaker 3>And I was talking to them about it, and my

989
00:56:56.400 --> 00:57:00.599
<v Speaker 3>kids bought a bigfoot sticker that said Bigfoot Live and

990
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:03.440
<v Speaker 3>put it on the back of my bronco without me

991
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:06.440
<v Speaker 3>knowing it, and I didn't take it off. I was like,

992
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:09.079
<v Speaker 3>the kids spent their hard earned money on one, so

993
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:12.960
<v Speaker 3>that's fine. And I drove up and there was this

994
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:18.000
<v Speaker 3>group of people that drove up on quads and the

995
00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:22.800
<v Speaker 3>one of the guys is about six foot seven and

996
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:26.440
<v Speaker 3>he was a big guy. And they're all talking, and

997
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:29.519
<v Speaker 3>they're all standing in a line, and they're like standing

998
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:33.320
<v Speaker 3>side by side, and I'm talking to him and I saw, like,

999
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:36.800
<v Speaker 3>any of you guys heard anything about tossquatches around here

1000
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:38.920
<v Speaker 3>or anything and the incidences.

1001
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:41.440
<v Speaker 2>And they're like why, And I was like, oh, if

1002
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:44.199
<v Speaker 2>you notice that bumper sticker, I do research.

1003
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:48.079
<v Speaker 3>And the guy's just, oh, I got an incident, And

1004
00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:51.960
<v Speaker 3>right before he could really say that, the others started sniggering.

1005
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:55.360
<v Speaker 3>They're like, and he raised his hand, I will slap

1006
00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:58.400
<v Speaker 3>all of you, and they're like, oh Jesus, guy has

1007
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:01.440
<v Speaker 3>never acting like that towards He's like, let me tell

1008
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:02.119
<v Speaker 3>you something.

1009
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:06.599
<v Speaker 2>And he was talking about one of the roads around there.

1010
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what forestry number it was, but him and.

1011
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 3>His buddy drive up there like a few months before

1012
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:16.800
<v Speaker 3>elk season and deer season so they can get a

1013
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:19.840
<v Speaker 3>scout into the land. And this time they drove up

1014
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:24.159
<v Speaker 3>in his friends ranchero and they see this huge, gigantic,

1015
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:30.280
<v Speaker 3>fur covered human, solid black covers the entire forest road

1016
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:34.000
<v Speaker 3>in two steps right, and he's like, it takes me

1017
00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:35.920
<v Speaker 3>six just to walk across the road.

1018
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:40.159
<v Speaker 2>So this thing was huge, and they stopped the vehicle.

1019
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:44.119
<v Speaker 3>They got out to go and investigate more, and he

1020
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.880
<v Speaker 3>got about fifty feet into the woodline when he had

1021
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:51.079
<v Speaker 3>this overwhelming sense of fear and he realized that his

1022
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:55.320
<v Speaker 3>forty four magnum pistol wasn't going to be enough.

1023
00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Protection to protect him.

1024
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:01.480
<v Speaker 3>So he started running back for the jaro, and his

1025
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:05.039
<v Speaker 3>friend was already in it and had started driving off

1026
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:07.400
<v Speaker 3>because he was that terrified, and he had to literally

1027
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:12.679
<v Speaker 3>dive into the back of the ranchero. Okay, Then that

1028
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:15.679
<v Speaker 3>same day I met two guys just kicking back in

1029
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:18.760
<v Speaker 3>the back of their truck and asked them about the area,

1030
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:22.159
<v Speaker 3>and one of them giggled and the other.

1031
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:24.199
<v Speaker 2>One got pissed. He's like, dude, you don't know anything.

1032
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Remember my grandpa. He's yeah, he's this a World War

1033
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.320
<v Speaker 3>two vet is. He had an incident here, and it

1034
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:35.400
<v Speaker 3>reminded me so much of the Albert Oatesman experience, not

1035
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:39.559
<v Speaker 3>being kidnapped, but being chased by him. He was hunting

1036
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:42.039
<v Speaker 3>an animal, I think the guy said it was a deer,

1037
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:46.800
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden he hears these rocks being

1038
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:51.480
<v Speaker 3>landed by him, and he sees like four saucequatches when

1039
00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:53.880
<v Speaker 3>he freaked out and fired at a couple of them,

1040
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:57.760
<v Speaker 3>and they started hooting and chucking rocks harder at him,

1041
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:00.599
<v Speaker 3>and that's when he started running out of the the canyon,

1042
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:04.039
<v Speaker 3>and they kept up with him for about a mile

1043
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.719
<v Speaker 3>and then he just got into a vehicle and hauled butt.

1044
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:11.639
<v Speaker 3>But the biggest incident there was a historical record from

1045
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:17.599
<v Speaker 3>the Sheriff's department nineteen sixties. A biker gang robbed a

1046
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 3>gas station and their local haunt was the Bohemian mining area.

1047
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:25.719
<v Speaker 3>The sheriff gathered a posse together to go bring these

1048
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:29.119
<v Speaker 3>guys to justice. And as they're driving up towards the

1049
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:34.079
<v Speaker 3>mining district, all these motorcyclists or bikers are driving down.

1050
01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Now they have stuff hanging off their motorcycles, tents. It's

1051
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:40.920
<v Speaker 3>like some of them just drove through the tents, you know,

1052
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:43.800
<v Speaker 3>and these guys are freaking out. They got off the

1053
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.599
<v Speaker 3>motorcyclist and they ran up to the sheriff and repleting

1054
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:52.639
<v Speaker 3>to save them because gigantic, hairy monsters came in and

1055
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:54.400
<v Speaker 3>attacked their camp.

1056
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:57.199
<v Speaker 1>That's incredible. That's Bohemian Mine area.

1057
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:03.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's all sorts of failed mines where people dig

1058
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:07.039
<v Speaker 3>in about like fifty feet and there's nothing, so.

1059
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.039
<v Speaker 2>They go to another area. Go to another area. A

1060
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<v Speaker 2>lot of black bear live in there.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of deer, some pumas, some wolfs, all

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01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:21.480
<v Speaker 3>sorts of floor and fauna for a bear to be

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01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:25.239
<v Speaker 3>able to eat, and also creeks to get a fish

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<v Speaker 3>out of.

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<v Speaker 1>Last location area I'll ask you about is have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard anything about the Union Creek or Prospect area?

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<v Speaker 1>The Union Creek, yeah, Union Creek or Prospect is west

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<v Speaker 1>of Crater Lake.

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<v Speaker 2>Prospect.

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<v Speaker 3>No, But I've heard people talk about incidences in Crater

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01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Lake or the camping areas that are surrounded. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 3>most of them were vague, like people are camping and

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01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:03.199
<v Speaker 3>they hear dick snapping and they see this large bipedal

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01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:07.760
<v Speaker 3>creature in the tree lines, but not really doing anything.

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01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:11.960
<v Speaker 2>And I've had people, you know, ask me, people who.

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01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:15.159
<v Speaker 3>Want to do research and stuff to look in their

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01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:17.400
<v Speaker 3>areas where it would be.

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01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:22.119
<v Speaker 2>A good area to go researching. And so I like

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01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:26.199
<v Speaker 2>scour Google Earth or the map sections and then look

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01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:29.800
<v Speaker 2>for areas that would be really good for these researchers

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<v Speaker 2>to go look at.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the best way to the calculation is the less

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01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:38.480
<v Speaker 3>humans accessible, the better.

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01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Right if you have to hike a couple of miles

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01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:45.280
<v Speaker 2>off of a road, the better. A lot of flora

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01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:46.760
<v Speaker 2>that they can.

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01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Eat, a lot of fauna, chipmunks, birds, good deer population,

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01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:56.280
<v Speaker 3>even if it's like a mountain goat population, and then

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01:02:56.519 --> 01:03:00.480
<v Speaker 3>adequate water sources. That's the biggest thing right there, because

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01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:04.519
<v Speaker 3>all life is drawn to water. So if you can

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01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:09.239
<v Speaker 3>find creeks, you can find not really huge lakes that much,

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01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:14.239
<v Speaker 3>but rivers, creeks. A lot of these places are are

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01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:19.559
<v Speaker 3>really good hotspots to get sastquatches. They'll eat crayfish, They'll

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01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:22.320
<v Speaker 3>eat any type of shellfish they can get their hands on,

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01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:27.280
<v Speaker 3>they'll get they'll eat chipmunks. I read reports of people

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<v Speaker 3>coming up and seeing these gigantic holes in the ground

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01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.880
<v Speaker 3>and all these boulders stacked up, and people couldn't understand why.

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01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:39.280
<v Speaker 3>And one guy witnessed these sauscequatches moving these boulders and

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01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:43.039
<v Speaker 3>grabbing bowls and just popping them in their mouth and

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01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:44.480
<v Speaker 3>just chewing them up and eat them.

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01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:47.679
<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of I researched a lot. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I still have the map of Washington, Oregon area

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01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.679
<v Speaker 2>that I can send you as well. That is, like

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01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:57.639
<v Speaker 2>I did a blotter map of about one hundred and

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01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:01.960
<v Speaker 2>fifty years worth of sightings Native Americans.

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01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:08.280
<v Speaker 3>To whites and whatever, from police to researchers to campers

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01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:13.920
<v Speaker 3>and so. Like the red ones are hostile. These are

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01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:18.159
<v Speaker 3>just straight up hostile sightings. They chuck rocks at people,

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01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:22.559
<v Speaker 3>they chase them, roar at them. And but no, I

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01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:28.679
<v Speaker 3>think there was only six fatalities I researched, and most

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01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:29.800
<v Speaker 3>of these were because.

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01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Someone shot at them or shot up. Then the other

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01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:37.840
<v Speaker 2>ones are blue. Those are semi aggrasive.

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01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:41.440
<v Speaker 3>To passive, you know another words, they see you when

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01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:44.559
<v Speaker 3>they run away, or they stand there and watch you,

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01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:49.280
<v Speaker 3>maybe menacely, growl a little bit, and then you walk

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01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:50.199
<v Speaker 3>off or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are about it. So the larger the dot, the

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01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:57.039
<v Speaker 2>more sightings that are in that area, and some of them.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the trippiest incidents as I researched, which was

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01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:05.840
<v Speaker 2>over in Sandy, Oregon. A guy and his wife have

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01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:10.280
<v Speaker 2>a land out there and they hear some gunshots off

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01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:13.679
<v Speaker 2>of the distance, and so the wife goes out of

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<v Speaker 2>the door first. The husband want to do get his

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01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:19.760
<v Speaker 2>rifle they go out there. He comes out of the

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<v Speaker 2>door and his wife.

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<v Speaker 3>Was standing at the edge of their property, which is

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<v Speaker 3>fifty yards from their house, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>what he sees the gigantic like eleven foot tall, hairy man,

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01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:36.239
<v Speaker 3>just fur covered, looking at his wife with such intense

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01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:40.960
<v Speaker 3>hatred picture up and the throws her about forty yards

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<v Speaker 3>into BlackBerry bushes and him and his friend actually had

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<v Speaker 3>to have other people come out and carve a path

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<v Speaker 3>to get her out of the BlackBerry bushes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she needed like one hundred and twenty two stitches.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you actually interview this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of these research it from the books that

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01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:05.000
<v Speaker 3>have been published. Oh okay, yeah, and also the Bigfoot

1140
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Mapping Project and also the BFRO. Absolutely, because I've actually

1141
01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:14.719
<v Speaker 3>talked to some of the investigators of the BFRO and

1142
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:18.639
<v Speaker 3>they're very intelligent. Two of them were law enforcement, so

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01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:21.280
<v Speaker 3>they really you back and forth. I trust and make

1144
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:22.960
<v Speaker 3>sure that your story straight.

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01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:25.679
<v Speaker 1>The investigators are good. I've talked to a lot of it.

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01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, wow, Greg, what has it been an incredible

1147
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:31.239
<v Speaker 1>chat with you? Thank you for taking the time to

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01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:35.960
<v Speaker 1>share what you've experienced and answer all the questions that

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01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I've had. I really appreciate it. I want to make

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01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:42.519
<v Speaker 1>sure if there is anything that you want to have

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01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:46.559
<v Speaker 1>people check out, feel free to share that. At this time,

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01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:53.679
<v Speaker 3>One me and my wife run a gluten free lifestyle

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01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:57.800
<v Speaker 3>YouTube channel, and this is for people who know people

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01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:00.320
<v Speaker 3>are silias or have to be gluten free, or they

1157
01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:04.519
<v Speaker 3>are themselves. It's good by Gluten, and it's the word good.

1158
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:10.320
<v Speaker 3>There's a dash and then bye and then gluten afterwards.

1159
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.800
<v Speaker 2>And if you pop up a YouTube channel that has

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01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:18.559
<v Speaker 2>an orange background ish with like chopsticks and forks and

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01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:23.480
<v Speaker 2>spoons and stuff that's hard. We do all sorts of recipes.

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01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:25.559
<v Speaker 3>Food product reviews, and I will tell you most of

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01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:29.039
<v Speaker 3>the food I tried that were gluten free are good,

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01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:31.880
<v Speaker 3>and then there's some that it says, oh, why didn't

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01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:34.480
<v Speaker 3>my kid make me eat this? Then I also have

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01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 3>another YouTube channel that actually has all sorts of movies,

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01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:44.840
<v Speaker 3>video gaming, but it has me talking about my encounters

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01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:49.639
<v Speaker 3>of Sasquatch with the actual maps of the area and

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01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:54.320
<v Speaker 3>with the sketches and photos the actual.

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01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Areas that I did.

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<v Speaker 3>And the YouTube channel is called Chaos entertainment, and that's

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01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:03.039
<v Speaker 3>aos and entertainment.

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01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:05.199
<v Speaker 2>But you have there's a couple of them.

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01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:07.519
<v Speaker 3>Mine's the oldest, but you have to look for the

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01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:11.000
<v Speaker 3>ones that have green and yellow lettering and like a

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01:08:11.119 --> 01:08:16.039
<v Speaker 3>space looking weird background, and that's mine. Let's see what

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01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:22.159
<v Speaker 3>else is there. There's links to like my books and

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01:08:22.359 --> 01:08:24.880
<v Speaker 3>my artwork that are there. Because one of my actual

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01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:31.119
<v Speaker 3>books is called Scions of Michael, and there's actually Sasquatches

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01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:35.439
<v Speaker 3>in there, a ton of them. Actually, Michael, the archangel

1181
01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:39.560
<v Speaker 3>comes down to Earth to protect the New Mary, ends

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01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:43.880
<v Speaker 3>up meeting a family of Saucequatches and then leading an

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01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:49.920
<v Speaker 3>army of Sasquatches into Seattle, all adorned with angelic armor

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01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:51.640
<v Speaker 3>and weaponry to fight.

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01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Demons and monsters. So it's a pretty good book for

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01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:57.359
<v Speaker 2>a good read.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Well to link that for sure in the

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01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:02.279
<v Speaker 1>show notes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because that you can buy that on Amazon or

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01:09:07.239 --> 01:09:08.960
<v Speaker 3>order it out from Barnes and Noble.

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01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool.

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01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:13.119
<v Speaker 3>I have a couple other Bigfoot the books out there

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01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:15.000
<v Speaker 3>that are like, one's a short story.

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01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I just forgot what the book was called.

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01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:21.640
<v Speaker 3>It's linked up in my Amazon page, and that actually

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01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:27.039
<v Speaker 3>has a sauce squatch story, let's see, And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's about it for right now.

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01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:33.039
<v Speaker 2>I've been pretty busy working on my new Caramel coin company, so.

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01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:37.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm tending to get back out into research as soon

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01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:40.079
<v Speaker 3>as I can, because the only reason why I stopped

1202
01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:45.359
<v Speaker 3>it was because I got really sick from my allergies

1203
01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:49.439
<v Speaker 3>and the immunity system got so compromised that literally I

1204
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:53.920
<v Speaker 3>was bedridden for several months and so I couldn't Yeah,

1205
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:57.079
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't leave the bed. I was wanting to just

1206
01:09:57.319 --> 01:10:00.680
<v Speaker 3>die because I felt so horrible. And that's when how

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01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:04.039
<v Speaker 3>I got silliac and we had to be gluten free.

1208
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:06.760
<v Speaker 3>And then I moved up to Washington healed up a

1209
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:10.560
<v Speaker 3>lot better. So now I'm ready to take my eld

1210
01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:14.279
<v Speaker 3>my youngest son out who's now twenty five, and go

1211
01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:16.520
<v Speaker 3>do researching and stuff like that.

1212
01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:21.880
<v Speaker 2>And got a lot more equipment. I got it myself,

1213
01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:26.239
<v Speaker 2>a nice drone three sixty camera. Hopefully my drone won't

1214
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:29.680
<v Speaker 2>get attacked by one video I saw where the dude's

1215
01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:31.640
<v Speaker 2>drone flying over and all of a sudden, you just

1216
01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:35.680
<v Speaker 2>see this giant stick just fly up and the yep,

1217
01:10:36.520 --> 01:10:37.600
<v Speaker 2>yeah nice, just like.

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01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Greg, Thank you so much. Definitely listeners check all that

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01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:46.159
<v Speaker 1>out in the show notes, keep usending a loop. If

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01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:48.640
<v Speaker 1>anything else does happen in the future, Greg would love

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01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:50.920
<v Speaker 1>to hear about it. But thank you so much for

1222
01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:53.359
<v Speaker 1>coming on the show. I greatly appreciate it.

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01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you for having me and text me that

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01:10:57.359 --> 01:10:58.720
<v Speaker 2>email so I could send you all that.

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01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely before we wrap this episode, I want to say

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01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:07.239
<v Speaker 1>something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if

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01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you've seen something that no one can explain, or if

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01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:17.079
<v Speaker 1>you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been

1230
01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:20.119
<v Speaker 1>told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's

1231
01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:23.600
<v Speaker 1>seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're

1232
01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:27.199
<v Speaker 1>with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and

1233
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:30.119
<v Speaker 1>you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.

1234
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:33.399
<v Speaker 1>And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue

1235
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:37.319
<v Speaker 1>responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

1236
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:41.239
<v Speaker 1>If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil

1237
01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:44.479
<v Speaker 1>field or a trucker with government contracts and you've had

1238
01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:48.159
<v Speaker 1>something happen that you've never told a soul, And if

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01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you're a biologist a wildlife specialist or a field researcher

1240
01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:55.560
<v Speaker 1>under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1241
01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:58.640
<v Speaker 1>If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1242
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:02.119
<v Speaker 1>spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1243
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:05.960
<v Speaker 1>or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

1244
01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:09.359
<v Speaker 1>anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1245
01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:14.119
<v Speaker 1>then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:19.279
<v Speaker 1>You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1247
01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:22.319
<v Speaker 1>The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

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01:12:22.399 --> 01:12:27.119
<v Speaker 1>carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1249
01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:32.560
<v Speaker 1>We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 1>you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

1252
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:41.039
<v Speaker 1>bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1253
01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:44.000
<v Speaker 1>is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:46.840
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the

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1257
01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:55.479
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<v Speaker 1>if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting,

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01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:10.800
<v Speaker 1>please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

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01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:14.319
<v Speaker 1>at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

1264
01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:17.159
<v Speaker 1>the conversation. If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check

1265
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:21.000
<v Speaker 1>out our membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society

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01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:24.000
<v Speaker 1>podcast dot com and that's where you can hear tomorrow's

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<v Speaker 1>episode today early in ad free and members only episodes

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<v Speaker 1>every week. Also, it's a place to connect with other

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<v Speaker 1>people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

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<v Speaker 1>you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>Society until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

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<v Speaker 1>and never stop asking what else might be out there?

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<v Speaker 1>And see you in the woods.
