Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the four hundred
and eighty six episode of the Geek First podcast. Actually,
no sorry, eighty seven because of me and Dan did
the Smargain sets. I am the No Questions tras now
and I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: The cloone Kirkland Plantzer.
Speaker 3: Uh the doctor Grant taylor Field.
Speaker 1: One of those looking taylor nicknames. Just take a character's
name or nickname, doctor Grant Taylor. Yeah, yeah, the panotolia
of the Paleontologist, you know, doctor taylor Field. But no,
here we are, and uh yeah, we're here reviewing her
a little bit later because it has been away all week,
but we're here nonetheless review one of the biggest movies
gonna be a summer already. The Thursday night opening had
the top five of the Pandemic was just under top
Gun Maverick. So big movie making money. Not that we
are surprised and anything like that, but you know, it's
been a big thing as well this week here Geek First,
because we've had newscasts, we've been one. We've missed Marvel.
I just did the Boys. Me and Dylan did the showcase,
which was you guys were find out to be on
that cast because man, what a bummer. But me and
Dylan had a really good time. Me and Delle's cast
just alone is like worth it to listen to us
talk about the Rock and everything like that. Have you
guys seen the rock segment from Summer Games Fest? No,
we gotta, we gotta either, because we're recording originals this
week for Patreon cheap Plug. Maybe we'll bring up there
something you guys go watch. It's one of the most
awkward things ever.
Speaker 4: It was. It was just so strange. We'll get in
another but.
Speaker 1: Listen, toe, Yeah, it was, and it's the Rock and
it's not even like he wasn't in on it. That's
what was weird about it. So, yeah, we had a
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gotta start off with Taylor feel because I just want
to hear the excitement of Taylor. You know, I'm very jealous.
I've not got to see a movie in Imax in
quite a while now, so and this was your first
time I think in an imax, was it.
Speaker 5: I've I've been to imax before, like at the Bank
Victoria Museums, all documentary stuff.
Speaker 1: Like not the same though not the same fish the
other fish fish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, so this is something special.
Speaker 1: Oh you see it penetration.
Speaker 3: But this was yeah, this was next level.
Speaker 5: So just like getting getting in and I didn't know
what to expect, but I saw like people were lining
up getting like the big bin of the popcorn, you
get the candy and you get the two cops.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's a sould already. So we got that
and we.
Speaker 1: Saw When we saw that, Emily was like, Taylor's gonna
have to get this like that big bin.
Speaker 3: Was it at the theaters here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And that's where I'm like, oh, well, you sing a Vancouver,
So I'm not sure if it's there because what was
the theare chain you saw was the Cineplex? Yeah. Yeah,
I can't say a thing for us, but someone did
drop their bin during the movie and it was at
an action part, so I thought it was in the movie,
like these speakers are really fucking good, Like it sounds
like it's right here, and then you're like, no, Jimmy,
pick it up, Jimmy pick it up, and like, oh,
it's a bucket, okay. But get to look at his
twitters and whatnot. You got that nice.
Speaker 3: It's a nice posted to the Twitter. I don't think
I did posted on the you.
Speaker 4: Did because they did that for the Batman.
Speaker 1: They did that for them. I haven't jumped into the
steel can like tin business yet because I just don't
know if they.
Speaker 2: Looked as profitable. Sounds like you're like speculating a business
deal here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the crypto NFT potential is,
but no, I just don't know if that is. Like
what it's like in my home is gonna be nice
and rusty if you watches later, if.
Speaker 5: They fill it up like really good popcorn we were
eating at the whole drive home.
Speaker 3: We're just scooping popcorn and just eating it. So nice.
But but it was great.
Speaker 2: It's just like fucking bloody from all the butter and
popcorn and just muddy.
Speaker 3: I feel like you get butter with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that just makes it worse, I feel because like
the salt that just never mind, go on with your
We don't.
Speaker 1: Have little melves like you, so we can eat food
regularly overflowing with popcorn.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was just it was great.
Speaker 5: Like we got into our seats there moves just about
to kickstart, and then it was like again, this is
a whole new experience for me and for medicine, because
she hadn't seen IMAX either, and so it's just like
the sound kicks in and our seats were prime and
it was like experience like like this world and it
experienced it ten times over an imax and universes and galaxies.
Speaker 3: Then it was like it did like ten nine all
the way to want and.
Speaker 5: Like Madison's like I got goosebumps, like she's freaking out
and I'm freaking out. And yeah, then in the wrong theater,
it's more than.
Speaker 1: Dinosaur fuck. But the movie's been out since March and
it's like everyone it's great. Yeah, I would have.
Speaker 3: Left for sure.
Speaker 5: But uh, yeah, I mean initial thoughts, Uh, did you
get a Minius Caesar?
Speaker 3: I didn't get a Minions Caesar mentioned.
Speaker 2: Dude, I had an I had a Nope trailer for
like the Jordan Peele movie, and then after the new one, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That sucks. I avoid that because we're on newscasts. I'm like, yeah,
you know, so that's a three minute trailer. That's a long.
Speaker 2: It was long, and it's like still pretty freaky like
the first one is, and then it definitely showed a lot,
So avoid that trailer. But yeah, then right after that
was a Minions trailer, and then right after that was
like a special Jurassic World Minions trailer. It's just like
this is such a weird like spectrum of like audiences
that they're going for these trailers like super Kitty Minions
that like super Kitty humor that like majority of people
weren't laughing at to like nope, where I.
Speaker 1: Was universal, right, that's why they're just the movies.
Speaker 2: Is still weird though when I see stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I was looking at the show notes. I didn't see
Calm was in the chat. So when you just said
did you get a Minions seasoner? Like what the fuck
is Kurkling asking did you get a Minions teaser? Like? Okay?
Either way, we were asking like why is he so specific?
Like did you guys get Minions teazer? And everything like that?
But no, I didn't know what I got because we
were we were very very close to being late. We
were right on the Cuspike. Yeah, but we got out
there luckily, but we did not see any trails because
we got our own pop. We're no buckets.
Speaker 4: But I'm sure man, that would make sense because it's coming.
Speaker 1: Out July and Universal. So but yeah, Tao, people don't
know what do you think of the movie?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, gosh, the first fifteen minutes I
cried about three times. I actually had like tears pouring
down my face, like it was. It hit me and
then like I'll say this, I definitely had tears again
at the end. But this movie was was it? Is
it like a Jurassic Part one?
Speaker 2: No? Is it?
Speaker 3: Definitely?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: Is it better than the previous install in the franchise?
I will say for sure, definitely it is. I think
there were so many moments that I could ride along
with and I can think, Okay, I love this because
it's a good callback and there's other things here. I
got nervous because I was sending you screenshots of people's
reviews and stuff like that, like non spoiler reviews.
Speaker 4: Does that ever stopped? I was twenty six on made.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just I got I got kind of nervous
and I was just reading into it a little too much.
But yeah, when it came to enjoying the film, I
enjoyed the storylines, I enjoy the characters we got to meet,
and for the most part, it was just it was
a it was a good movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Is it the best movie of all time?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: I'm gonna try and go in here like being I'm biased,
as I possibly can't even though I showed up with
a fucking Jurassic.
Speaker 3: Geep, the T shirt, the fucking tin bucket, like.
Speaker 2: You got, like the ring tone of his lover hardware story.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but overall it was I really really did enjoy
this movie and I definitely will be seeing it again.
Speaker 1: And don't say where it ranks, because we're doing a
separate I won't where.
Speaker 5: No, definitely not every like I have Alan Grant biased
and so everything with Alan Grant, I was just eating
it up.
Speaker 3: I loved it. It just had me.
Speaker 5: There were so many things that I just thought, this
is just so Alan Grant.
Speaker 3: I love this stuff. And yeah, just it was. It
was good. It was definitely good.
Speaker 1: It's definitely good. Well, I'll go next because I feel
like with Kirkland Snickers, I want to leave him last
because I feel like keeps the keeps the audience guessing.
Because I've actually been hit up quite a bit of
people be like, oh, what do you think about it?
Because honestly, Jurassic World Fun Kingdom was like an infamous
review for Geek first, and I've had some bold claims
about that movie about you know where ranks as far
as blockbus.
Speaker 2: I never got to be on that.
Speaker 1: And I didn't get the review strange things season three.
All shit happens, you know. But anyways, so where do
I fall on this one? So? Yeah, Taylor, the thing
all grew Taylor. It's not Jurassic Park one. I agree
that that's the most trust.
Speaker 3: Thing I think on this cast.
Speaker 2: It's not Dress Park one. What about a second statement though?
Speaker 1: What was it said?
Speaker 2: It was a step up from the last movie Kingdom?
Speaker 1: Yes, so two statements, I will agree.
Speaker 2: Two statements were very like easy to vote with. You know,
It's like, Okay, he's covered a lot of grounds here,
but yeah, okay, I agree with him.
Speaker 1: I agree with the Fallen Kingdoe, but not by too
much for me. I rewatched Fallen Kingdom and try, but
I think for me, and this is where it's a
bit of a cheat. And this is where I will
say that I'm very curious what happens to Colin Chavarro's
career after this, because Hollywood is a place where it
doesn't matter as long as you make money, that's what happens, right,
And you have this guy who was supposed to direct
episode nine and then he put out a bad movie
and that didn't happen. And I remember me and Taylor,
we did a cast when the script leaked and we
talked about like, oh, would we want you know this
versions to the JJ version, And I'm somebody like I
don't really enjoy Rise of Skywalker that much, but after
seeing this and his writing, I think I'm pretty happy
with Rise of Skywalker that he didn't get to do
it because I think he should.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's a bad director, I wouldn't
say that. I think that.
Speaker 1: I know he does the story and screenplay with other people.
I think he just needs someone else, or maybe he
just doesn't need this story by just because writing is
not his particular strong suit here. And I think what
was strange for me is at least for the pros
cast is good. I actually think for some reason, Chris
Pratt was like the weakest in this movie. It kind
of felt like he's just happy to do these movies
and get a paycheck and be like there's some acting
that I didn't feel was top tier from him, but
he didn't bring it down. Just felt like it kind
of wasn't bringing as much. But if you are looking
for this movie to deliver on the original characters returning,
I think they deliver that in ten fold as far
as the actors, I think those are the people that
save it because I think there's some good quality content
with there. I think their interactions are good, and I
guess you could say some of the writing, but for me,
the writing is very shoddy. It is those three together,
their charisma, and they haven't done like sure they've been
in sequels and whatnot, but and maybe they've been friends
over the years, but what they haven't been in the
movie together since nineteen ninety three, so it's not like
the Avengers cast. It's like been together for ten years.
They've nailed down the chrisma. So for them just to
get back into it and you feel like you haven't
missed a beat. You feel like these characters are the
exact same way. For me, which was very strange, my
theater from enjoy of the film was silent. I remember
fal Kingdom. I was somebody who was like, Oh, I'm
in a crowd of people that I really like this
movie and I'm not really enjoying it. Where this was strange.
There was like lots of jokes that were happening and
no one was laughing until Goldland got on the screen.
He's one of got the most laughs whatnot, and Golden's
my MVP. Like I'm Mota where I think Doctor Grant's
probably my favorite character, but I maybe guys i'm older,
I've I don't. Here's the difference. Doctor Grant's my favorite character,
but Golden's my favorite performance. And what I liked about
this is we talked about this in Jurassic Park, where
he's weird, but he's not overly too weird in this movie,
like he reins it back. He tries to be Ian Malcolm,
which I like because most roles you see Golden nowadays,
he's always just super kooky and super weird, which I like.
But it's kind of like Christopher Walking, where they just
do the thing like you're funny and weird and stuff.
Speaker 4: So I think he's great.
Speaker 1: Lord Duran's great, Doctor Sam Neil's He's pretty good. You
can tell, Like I feel like he does not act
as much as the other guys. And I also think
it's just that he gets a lot of the really
like some really cheesy lines, and he tries his best
to sell him and God love I almost hold him
Neil Grant, Sam Neil. What I think the biggest negative
for me is just the plot overall of I said,
I remember when we did the review for Fallen kingdomor said,
did not like this movie at all. But where it
left us is in a very interesting place. What happens
when the world is overrun by dinosaurs again and this
movie decides to not get into that really at all.
Speaker 4: It's about like six.
Speaker 1: Different things, and I feel like the dinosaurs kind of
take a back seat. They are literally in this way,
I feel like just to be scary or the monster,
you know, I feel like there it's almost like we
talked about in our obi Wan can always reviews where
it's like you had, you know, Revenge of the Siff,
and that happens, and then the next day it's like
everything's stripped to look like a new hope. That's where
this is where it feels like there's a movie missing
in between, where there's certain elements added that I don't
want to say and spoilers about the dinosaurs in the world,
where it's just like, how did this happen? And I
want more context about because these movies are about the
idea of dinosaurs and should we have brought them back?
Should we live with them? What now?
Speaker 4: And the movie and again it's expectations, but the movie.
Speaker 1: I was always hoping, like, man, we're gonna plan the
apes with giant dinosaurs.
Speaker 4: That's definitely not happening with these films.
Speaker 1: And this is very scife like it's sci fi in
the way of like kind of sharp Nato sort of
like the things they do with these dinosaurs and the
tech they're using with some of them. There's no hybrids,
but there's some things that I almost think are just
as bad with what they do with them. My last
point is I shuddered. I shuddered fear when the guy
who's playing a certain character walked on screen, who's playing
the villain of this movie, because I do not like
that actor, and oh man did he deliver in that
category again because he plays the dad an amazing spider Man,
and man, I don't know if they thought it was
gonna be funny, but me and I had a good
time within like the room way, but it was such
a weird choice. And that's I'd say this movie has
a lot of weird choices, which could have been an
easy layup. But yeah, I think for me what takes
us down is the plot. It's a movie I didn't
really want to see. And then so like it's a
concept I didn't want to And it's kind of like
what we talked about obi Wan, where it's like, Okay,
now you gotta sell me on it. Obi Wan sold me.
This did not once we got into it. I'd say
the third act is where I actually started enjoying the
movie the most act one, act two, when the characters
were kind of separated. I was just kind of getting
through it. So a little bit of the Fallen Kingdom.
It's gonna make a lot of money, so we'll get more.
But if the original characters aren't there, I guess I
like Bryce and Chris Brad enough. But I yeah, I
thought it was an alright effort, but not not not
great Bob not great. So Kirk compats are famously Yeah,
he didn't get to be on the review.
Speaker 2: But you don't even know my thoughts on Falling Kingdom.
You do.
Speaker 4: You've said it so many times.
Speaker 3: You know you rate A.
Speaker 2: It's basically like eternals level for me, honestly.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No. I first of all, I agree with Taylor's statements.
Speaker 3: Both of them good.
Speaker 2: This is not Jurassic Park one, and this is in
my eyes, definitely better than Fallen Kingdom, you know, if
we were doing our retros and then we were like,
we watch Durssic World one, so it's like, fuck, well,
I got to just watch Fallen Kingdom again. I haven't
seen it since that first like viewing, and yeah, oh
my gosh, that movie's hard to get through. I feel
like there was moments of the movie that I kind
of forgot about because I probably just like wiped them
from my mind, and then I'm like, this actually isn't
that bad. And then it would get to near the
end of the film and it's just like, God, what
are they doing here? And that's a long one too.
I don't even remember how long it is, but in
my mind it's like three hours. It's probably like two.
It's probably close to this one, because this one, I
think is like two and a half hours. But yeah,
going into this one, I had I had like floor expectations,
like literally the bar was on the ground. It was
no expectations whatsoever other than just like, I hope the
original trio is really fun to see and I hope
the Diamonds are cool. I feel like that was kind
of my expectations going into this one, which helped me
for sure, because I actually enjoyed this movie for the
most part. I think I think the big standout for
me is like the Dino sequences. I feel like those
were just really awesome to see, like in theaters, Like
I can only imagine what it was like in Imax
Taylor's That's I'm envious of you there, because just being
in like the extreme theater, like I just the audio everything,
like I was totally immersed and it was really really
fun and I haven't had that since I guess Fallen
Kingdom and that was just such a negative experience. So
this is like a positive Dino experience for me, which
was awesome. I agree a lot of what you guys said,
like character wise, like the original trio, like they were
so fun. I could have just taken like the whole
movie with them, But I don't want to like completely
disregard like Pratt and Bryce because I did really like
them too. I like the new the new addition to
the crew.
Speaker 4: I have her name, so, yeah, the actress I forgot
to see is.
Speaker 2: Kayla Watts is her name in the movie.
Speaker 1: But yeah, kid Watson for that same statements is like
a mini split. At one point, she looks at Chris
Pratt and she says, you know, do you want to
ride or do you want me to answer questions? And
that's what I kind of think about this movie, you know,
just like do you just wanna do you want to
ask questions?
Speaker 4: Do you just want to ride? And like if you
want to ride, this is for you.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was good. So, like I I really liked.
Speaker 1: The guy who was the Ramsey. I actually really liked it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't remember the actor's name, but
Ramsey was really good. Travis doing a little wardrobe change
there for the audio listeners, I gotta do some describe video,
but Jesus Christ, oh I love that. But yeah, I
I feel like the villain was so fucking god awful
like that. Like I know we're not even the spoiler section,
but I couldn't believe some of the stuff that was
going on with this guy. Like there was moments that
I'm like, hey, they're making him really quirky and weird
for like a reason, Like there's gonna be some weird
explanation that he's also like again, spoiler free section, but
like he's there's gonna be something with him, and like
he's just a weirdo.
Speaker 1: In the moment when he shook around.
Speaker 2: Like he's glitching out like the chip and working. Yeah, exactly,
And don't worry.
Speaker 4: Folks, there's no payoff with him, Like there's nothing.
Speaker 1: Like he's just a fucking.
Speaker 4: Weirdo, like a weird Yeah, we gotta. I think we
gotta start.
Speaker 1: With him toils and get him out the way when
we get there, because I have so much to talk
about him.
Speaker 2: But no, he he was totally something kooky, but I
like for me, honestly, I think like he definitely is
noticeable to take down some marks on this movie for me,
But I think I could still rewatch this and and
not like turn it off when he's on screen, because
there's some really fun dino stuff, like I feel like
we've never seen like so many like new kinds of
dinos too before, which was really really cool to see.
Like you have your classic long necks. Again sorry for
not the proper terminology here, but like your t rex
is the raptors, like you have like the really iconic
ones ankleosaurus, you know, if you're a g like me,
likes those guys. But like there was some that I
I don't think i've know I've even heard of them before.
It's not a spoiler because it was in the trailer,
but like the one with on the ice Taylor, do
you know what type of dino that is? Like really
cool colors and had feathers and everything.
Speaker 5: On the top of my hat, I want to say,
it's a power raptor, but that's fucking dope ass name
right there.
Speaker 3: It's a power raptor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. So, like, I just love seeing more
dinos than what we'd already seen before. And because you know,
we're in twenty twenty two, Like the CG Island look,
the CGI look on them just looked phenomenal, Like it
was really well done in my eyes. And yeah, like
I think the plot could have been a lot better
for sure. And I didn't really know what it was
going to be going into this movie, just because of
where Fallen Kingdom left off of like just dinos are
out in the world, Like I didn't exactly know what
the plan was going to be. Uh, Like there was
a couple of trailers of just Pratt on a motorbike
getting chased by raptors, so I kind of just assume
there's gonna be chaos in the real world, and I
think the plot wasn't really what I was expecting, but
it was all right for me, honestly, so all in all,
like without giving a number rating right now, like I
would definitely pass this movie. I actually hadn't looked at
like any like reviews or anything before this, so when
I googled, I was actually kind of surprised honestly to
see where like the general feel of the movie was
just because like you, yeah, just like the crew I
went with quite enjoyed it. Actually they had fun and uh,
like I understand I guess on like the critical side
of it, like the critics reviews, Like, I guess I
can understand that more, but I don't know, Like I
was riding pretty high on it today, like I saw
it last night and just all day. I was maybe
not the most like thumbs up memorable movie, but still
like there was some good moments I could call back to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the It'll be interesting if you
ever watched it again, because I think this is gonna
be a movie that will not age well and stuff
like that. And I see, yeah, I'm not to you know,
spoil my exact memory, but I'm in that fail category.
Speaker 4: There's not I there's in this.
Speaker 1: It's like I I like moments, but it's almost just
like a best of like I would watch go to YouTube,
you know, YouTube these people's great moments, and that's about it.
Because the movie, like I feel like, once like I know,
maybe you're not gonna fail it, but once we break
down some of these certain plot points, it's just fucking wild.
Like I'm so surprised that they kind of not let
this happen because Colin did Drastic World, but it's just
I just don't I do think it is very much
like Transformers, where they're making a lot of money now,
but I think they are gonna hurt the franchise and
at one point they're gonna put out a drastic movie
and it's not gonna make money, and they're gonna be like,
I wonder what the fuck happened, and it's gonna like, well,
you kind of let this guy. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I won't say bachelize the franchise, but just something.
Speaker 1: Like if you just were imagine if you woke up
from a coma and you watch Durassic Park and then
you went to go see this movie, and it's just
like man, look where we've been, Like, look where it's gone,
look at what it's become. Like it's just and I
think the other thing that maybe made it worse for
me is the fact that we just saw Top Gun
and I know that we have other like sequels already
for Drastic Park, but that's like a legacy like character
is coming back, and we talk about the how, oh
it's so emotional and there's so much character journey. There's
a little bit that little bit of that in here,
but when you come pair of the two, it's night
and day. In my opinion, like quality of like you're
looking at legacy sequel characters coming back between Maverick and
this and that show is like what they like, you
can do it, you can do it successfully. And the
good thing is like I don't think the actors are bad.
They give them some good moments, but I don't know
how it's gonna age. That's my thing. Because it was
fun for a first watch. I'll definitely watch it again,
but I think when I watch it again there'll be
tons of phone moments. I'll honestly probably just skip Fallen
Kingdom and just go World and then Dominion. I don't
need I watched it again one more time. That's the
only time I've rewatched it. I think that's enough for me.
But to see these characters back, so yeah, anything else nonspores.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: There was a yeah, no, never mind, that's spoiler calling.
Speaker 4: The big yoshas. What do y'all think of practical facts?
Speaker 1: I could tell they used more than they did in
the other movies, And yeah, I think that's tough because
I knew going in that they're doing that. But I
think there's definitely some shots that looked a bit better.
But I think it's like we talked about in the retros.
But you go check out if you've never listened to
Keeper's podcast reviewed every Drastic World again. It's just like
none of them always looking is to go to Jurassic Park.
And that's just something really weird to say for you know,
what about to be thirty year old movie next year.
Like like, there's certain dinosaurs that come back in this
where I think, look fine, but there's certain dinosaurs that
come back from the first one. Again where it's just
like these actors are acting against great people and it's
it's not the greatest you know, we're draft like, but
that's a problem. We've gone to the scope where these
movies are so big and so you know, like er
Shatter am big events, you can't do them practical, you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I definitely noticed there was more practical like
dinos in there, like animatronic ones. But there's still many
moments where I'm like this, like they could do an
animatronic dino right here, like in this specific scene. So
I still think that they could have gone more in
that direction. Like I don't I'm not a CGI person,
so I don't know how easy it is. It just
felt like personally like it was a little bit lazy
in certain scenes where they just were relying on the
CGI as opposed to where they could have like an
easy stand in for an animatronic dino, but you know
for splitting hairs here.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get into so we're gonna take our first
ad break if we've not seen Jurassic World Dominion or
if you do not care, we will be right back
with a bag spoyls breakdown and we're back. So yeah,
let's let's get that villain out of the way, because
I want to start them because I feel like we're
already waiting to get the spoilers. So I want to
start with you, what do you feel about when we
got the name drop, because that was I like, I
likes lookout, Paul Dano, you got some competition this year.
Speaker 3: I like the name drop.
Speaker 5: I thought like like, I was like, okay, this is
all in line here with what's going on. It makes
sense to bring him back as like the fill and
the void villain.
Speaker 2: I have a question before you keep going, this is
like who Newman was going to be selling dinos too? Right? Okay, yeah,
that's what I was telling everyone that was asking me.
So I was hoping that was.
Speaker 1: The kid Dodson.
Speaker 5: We got dods in here, Yeah, same guy. So I
was expecting some kind of.
Speaker 3: Payoff with how quirky he was.
Speaker 5: I thought, okay, yeah, obviously there's something off here, and
they make a point of there being something off with
the way the characters, the main legacy characters react to him,
so I was anticipating that. But it was just like, Okay,
we're steering down the rabbit hole and making it blatantly
obvious that he is just a bad guy, which again
we would have known from the first movie anyways. But
I mean, all in all, like he was just he
was weird. And I guess if you make if you do,
it's weird to do a villain at this point because
you make them like the standard villain like we've seen before.
Speaker 3: He was just kind of reminding me of literally.
Speaker 5: The definition of you and Malcolm saying a kid that
found his dad's gun, Like, he's just he's harnessed all
this power, and he has all this money and everything,
and he just has no discipline on how to use it.
He's just he's an idiot who's got money backing him
up and investors. And I think that was just he
was used in the context of showing how shitty humans
are in these positions where they have tons of money
and they're doing things they shouldn't be and he's dabbling with,
you know, these extinct locusts that he shouldn't have been
dabbling with stars.
Speaker 2: I was not expecting to have a big emphasis on
locus in a Jurassic World movie.
Speaker 3: No, but yeah, he just I think he was just
a fill in that void.
Speaker 5: I will say his death was just fit if it
perfectly in with just how I I really thought it
was gonna go. I thought because when he opened up
the tunnel, from the train. I thought, okay, this is
like this The only thing that would.
Speaker 3: Be in line here would be cool is like, okay,
if he gets killed by a Deloficsaurus and the barber
cl canfrolls like Dennis Edgrie did in the first one,
And I thought, holy shit, they actually did it. I'm
glad they did.
Speaker 5: I'm glad that they set up because I was like,
this is fucking terrifying to be stuck in here with
these things.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of that. It was just that
that's where we got to the point of like, Okay,
I get this servicing, but just it's exact. It's tough,
right because we talk able the whole time in Star
Wars of like what fan service works and what does
And I guess that one didn't for me because also
it's like how these dying was getting here, you know,
like it just felt so random in the fact.
Speaker 2: They were just that's a running thing when all the
Draassic Parking World person park.
Speaker 3: Travels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's selfy, the guy he's working. Yeah, I
I that's like one egregious thing in Jurassic Park where
these are just I don't this is a lockdown, tunnel off.
So you have these other past and it just felt
just way too similar. There's certain you about fast travel.
Speaker 4: There's some weird stuff where like Rams he has a
meeting with Dots.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay specific yeah.
Speaker 1: So he like we're jumping all over. That's what this
movie is. This movie is chopped the fuck like two things. One,
I do think there could have been more with dots
and and they cut it. And two I actually think
that Rams was maybe a dots and clone and they
cut that too because dots and drops he dropped so many.
He's just like me and every other way, except he's
a little taller and a little fitter. He didn't say
he's more blacker, so I thought that's the way he
was gonna go because he's like and he's more a
lot more.
Speaker 2: Gonna get out like humor with that guy.
Speaker 1: Like and even when that whole like turning happens when
he finds out, Oh god, he's such a bad actor,
this guy. Oh he's you're the whole like, oh god. Anyway,
he's like the scene happsens with Ramsey and he's just
like you had everything. I didn't like, he's talking to
him like he would be a son or like a clone.
So I think there's something that was cut more maybe
all around with this villain. Would it save it for me?
Not exactly, because here's the thing where it's like, okay,
Emily said it, and I think we're all kind of
thing that they're talking about jeans and they're like, the
whole movie is about uh, actually, I don't know. Fuck,
it's about many things. It's about we gotta get a
clone to get fixed this locust. There's also this new
biosen kind of park like thing. There's so much storyline
on we've got black markets, but we're gonna get there.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a wild ride. But either way, for
this scene, it's about Maze.
Speaker 1: She has those genenics that can like maybe help people, right,
And Emily said the same thing where it's like maybe
he has something missing in him and that's why he
needs his help or he needs these genes to fix them.
Speaker 4: Now, if they cut that, then.
Speaker 1: It makes less sense and it doesn't work. And even
if that was the story, I was like, Okay, it
could be, but I just think they went way too far,
Like he was distractingly, he felt like a scary movie villain.
Like that's what was weird. He felt like he was
in a parody. If you next year were to see
the parody of Jurassic World Dominion, it'd be the same performance.
And I'm not trying to be mean, but like this guy,
I don't know how he still gets work. One time
he was in House of Cards and he actually wasn't
bad there, But there's been so much stuff I've seen
him that he's.
Speaker 4: Just he's very wooden.
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna get a guy to play this
very eccentric, weird type of character, you need to get
a really specific actor for that type of role to
pull it off, and this did not. And he is
just such a distraction in this movie. Every scene he's in,
he's he's a quiet, low spoken guy, but he's loud,
Like his performance is loud, and it's just weird, Like, Yeah,
that moment when they tell him that they have to
evacuate the park and he's shaking in the air, I
thought I was watching the fucking exercise, Like what's going
on here?
Speaker 4: Like there's so many moments there's.
Speaker 1: Just weird lines like win those dinosaurs attack on the
he just looks at a dinosaur and says, what's your story? What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Who is writing this?
Speaker 4: Why is this happening?
Speaker 1: Why calling Tivarro? Why? He's like, what's your story?
Speaker 4: And he looks like good, like everything about him?
Speaker 1: I have nothing redeeming, and they just this is where
for me, the movie got way more generic and like
the sci fi B movie because he's just a generic
bad guy villain, Like he's just every villain we've seen
before in Dressers Park has had that at times, but
I think because he was just over the top so much,
it kind of made it worse. But uh, yeah, no,
I I was gonna say this because I think you've
talked to me about this before that there's some can reason.
Colin says not to mention how they even find that can.
It was buried on the island that blew up. Isn't
there some sort of cannon thing that they got off
the island or something, or there was their video game or.
Speaker 5: Something the Yeah, there's a video game that kind of
covers that. But I mean, how they got the can,
you could use it up to your imagination. There was
like what twenty to thirty years of time that they
could have gone in and found it. So, I mean
he had other agents go when looking for it.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna get the prequel Lewis Dodson movie
where the DH is accurate, scho.
Speaker 5: We got the original trilogy with the sequel trilogy. We
need the prequel trilogy.
Speaker 1: So oh, it's all about Lewis Doddson, the same guy
d aged. Oh my god. But Taylor, I feel like,
you know you're pretty puzzle.
Speaker 2: On the movie.
Speaker 1: I've seen you shake your head in agreeance a couple
of times. What do you think about this villain?
Speaker 3: Like you already talk about the villain?
Speaker 1: I did, but I meantmore is like did it were you? Like?
Speaker 2: Was it as egregious for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Did it? Bu like does it a here's thing?
Does it take points down for you in your score
the villain? That's what I'd say.
Speaker 5: Uh, I want to say like if it, if it did,
it would be like a point five because I really
like I was honestly, I was honestly just like more
or less like entreat you to figure out and it
was just the payoff wasn't there Because at one point,
like you're right, I thought, oh, he's probably a clone
like the old amazing.
Speaker 3: Storyline we got or like they're probably dabbling in some
other sinister things.
Speaker 5: But I just was wanting more of a payoff as
to what was really going on. But he just, to
me at the end of the day, felt like just
some rich moron that just wanted to just get ahead
with technology and advancements to make more money.
Speaker 3: And I think he paid.
Speaker 5: Off for me in that regard, like I didn't need
anything more from him, because we've seen all these other
rich people try and make money off the dinosaurs, or
open the theme park to make money up the dinosaurs,
all these different aspects, so this is just another different
perspective on that front. And he was just like, I
keep I mentioned this already, but it's just a kid
that found his dad's guy and he just had the
dinosaurs and it was just running with it, I guess.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I meant to was too,
Like when you rewatch this movie, because the whole time
you watch this you're like, oh, there's something up with
this guy. So now when you go and watch it
back and you know there's nothing on this guy, it's
just the performance. You know, Kirk combatser gold Geek come
into this guy.
Speaker 2: It's a good heads up just on the second rewatch
is I'm like, I didn't go see this with Shake.
She was working last night and we did the whole
marathon up until so now it's like I feel like
we gotta go see it again, so I'll be looking
out for these things that maybe just went over my
head the first time around. Stay tuned for part two
of the review. But yeah, I mean, like I agree
with everything Travis that I feel like there was no
redeeming factor for him, as you mentioned, like I was
waiting for some sort of like gene explanation to why
he's acting this way, but he like there there there
was no satisfying answer. There wasn't even like an unsatisfying answer.
There was no answer. He was just he's weird. He's
completely he's just a weird dude. I think when he
was first and like shown, it's just just like super
super white dude. That's like, okay, this like he's.
Speaker 1: Playing Steve Jobs at first.
Speaker 2: Literally no, that's what I kept thinking, Like this is
like Tim Cook or whatever the guy is who's like
the new Steve Jobs at Apple, Like this is literally
who this person is and they better not make him
just a super stereotypical villain, like almost mushtas totally with
like how over the top he was at moments, and
that's exactly what happened. And I was so upset by that,
Like I thought that they were again gonna like throw
me for a loop on like Okay, this is what
you're gonna think he is. And then he actually has
like a good motive or something. He's like a well
written character, and that never happened. His death was so
oh my gosh. And that was a long sequence too
of him, like in in the tunnel, lots of smoke
even before that, like when it just like it dies,
He's just like oh no, no, no, no, no, what's
going on here? And then yeah, he just wanders out.
And I think like the first showing of the Bibles
of the Barber sal Can with like the what is
it the embryos or whatever it is, Like I think
that was a really fun moment and like a cool,
cool Easter egg, but like just cut it there, like
they had to, as you mentioned, Travis, like just really
pour it down our throat, like, hey, this is from
the first Drassic Park. Remember this this krusty Barbasol said, It's.
Speaker 4: Like if you didn't have a friend with you at
that moment you finally got it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's the guy. That's the guy from
the first one, you know. But it's just like I
feel like, one you don't actually need to know what's
the guy from the first one, just like a fun
fan service sort of thing, because he's never been a character.
It's not the same actor. So I thought that was
great where we talked about again like oh we won,
where it's like C three P in the backgrounds, like, oh,
that's cool. He has this like thing of trophies and
even if he puts it in his bag, okay, that's cool,
has like a keepsake. But then once yeah, just to
pretty much recreate the scene again was a little a
little much for me, a little gregious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what do they call it?
Speaker 1: Delaphosaurus the scars from the fucking world. That's oh yeah,
exorusis the way they know. Basically, they're just like shit, it'll.
Speaker 2: Probably turn its head around in like a three sixty,
like the exist.
Speaker 1: I absolutely hated how they had Chris practice Manhattan one
of those things.
Speaker 2: It was a just moment because I was even going
to shout out, like the use of them in that
scene was actually really fun until yeah, you just have
macho man come out of the woods and just.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And that's where it's just it's like, that's
where it's so funny. It's like the Tale of Two
movies where I feel like the original casts and even
though I don't really like the Ellie Grant doing the
stuff for Locus, it's like, Okay, I like see them
together and it just feels like you can see the
differences of the generations of like they're sneaking around, they're scientists,
they got molds and Chris Patch's going up choking fucking
dinosaurs and like not let it. It's just like and
even the girl like and I actually same thing with
Ramsey and uh, what was her name, Kayla in the
movie The New Yeah, I like the actors. It was
just some of the dialogue stuff they have to do.
Even her, she was just a fucking call duty character,
ripped out and put in this movie like that. And
I guess they tried to at the end try and
be like, Okay, she wanted to turn leaf and be good,
but when she's risking everything playing all this stuff, and
like I said, Chris Pat's like, why you say no,
She's like you want to ask questions or you want
to ride. It's like, all right, that's that's what we're
doing here. Like she's just this type of character. And
when she's just saying like, oh, dinosaurs and shit, like
there's so much dude, BROI stuff happening in this movie.
That's the stuff where I kind of went. That's where
I was like, I I like Bryce styles hard still,
but those other characters brought on an element that as
I was watching, I was like, oh, you know what,
I don't like this as much as I thought I
maybe in Drastic World there was a Jurassic World if
like had a better bounce. But between Fall and Kingdom
and this, it feels way too you know, fuck up
dinosaurs and you know, like like and they're not even
too violent dinosaurs. They fuck up that big one. But
it's just a certain vibe. It's that I'm not a
big fan of. No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he said it well too on like
like because I really like the actors' performances of those characters,
as you mentioned, Like I liked Kayla as just being
like a charismatic character, like when they're in the biosen,
Like what is that like safe Haven? I guess for
Dino's like when they're just kind of trapped in the
forest there in their own little Jurassic park. Like she
was really fun, but I kind of forgot about it
because at that moment I was liking the character, but
earlier on I felt like her motivation to even just
like take the job, and like you took the job,
but like like when she takes the job and like
is just like going from this like cold mercenary that
just does things for money, It's just like, yeah, now
let's just do it. Like it just felt like such
a quick shift, and I feel like initially it kind
of bugged me, and then afterwards it's like, okay, let's
just kind of handwave that and then just go on
this adventure. And I think I feel like when I
was on the adventure, it was kind of it was
kind of working until I would get brought back to
I mean, the villain, for sure, he brought me back
to reality every single time in there, and then but like, yeah,
like even the Ramsey thing, like I think there was
a lot of mysterious aspects to him where I really
thought he was like a villain character, and then when
he was like on their side, I'm like, oh no,
there's gonna be still something more with this guy, and
then it just never really happened. Like I still think
that they they fell flat with even the stuff they
did pretty well on like the original trilogy, Like I
I mean you mentioned like there the little quests that
they're on with the Locusts, Like, Okay, we just needed
like a reason to get these these people like involved
with our new our new crew of Chris Pratt and
brace Dell's Howard. I think that like the writing there
could have been better, but like when they're actually on
the mission, I was enjoying it. So again, I guess
that's where like a second viewing those moments will really
stand out of like uh this is this is dog
water here of like dog water, just just certain occasions
on how they get going, Like it was just really
weird for me, for like Kayla, I want to know
the actress's name, it's not because that's my sister's name.
So every time I see it say that, it just
feels weird.
Speaker 1: But she was originally Monica Rambo or Maria Rambo. Yeah,
but she had to lose out because of scheduling purposes
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So she did this instead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, paid out. She could she get it in Doctor Straange.
She could have been Captain Marvel and here she is here,
but she'll be in the franchise going forward. It's you know,
there was no way. And credits scene is so weird
because I looked it up my phone and people are like,
well because if said it's the end of the Drastic series,
there would not be an in credits scene. And she's
like the producer a few weeks goes like this is
not Drastic Glass movie, Like we're making TONSI So it's
like fuck off, Like I don't know what characters are
coming back. I will get into I guess once we
get the original characters. But yeah, I think she'll be
at the real plane.
Speaker 2: She's ready for new Dyno mission too.
Speaker 1: Oh man, what was I gonna bring up to about
we were talking about these characters and stuff like that. Shit.
Speaker 4: Oh Ramsey.
Speaker 1: The second I knew he was the good guys when
he's like, yeah, and that haul down there is where
you don't want to go, and.
Speaker 4: So like, okay, he's in on it.
Speaker 1: Because it's just like he's like specifically telling them without
telling like what you need is over there and stuff
like that. And I didn't mind because I liked the actors,
so I was happy that he was a good guy.
I've not seen him in anything else, so I hope
to see him on other stuff because I liked him
for a character that's just very one note. There's not
much there. I think there could have been a little
bit more with him and Dodson, but that would have
meant more dots, and so it's a double edged sword.
Dotson just reminds me of like Jared Lell's Joker and Squad,
where it's like you need more story to make the
character better. But do I want it? I don't know,
Like it's such a double edged sword. So uh but yeah,
I like those new actors.
Speaker 2: If you get more of it, it's possible you just
have more bad and I like, I don't think I
want to take that gamble. No. Exactly, in that moment
when he was like guiding them like to where to go,
I'm like, this is an ambush, Like don't fucking trust
this guy, Like, like I was so on the camp
of he is a bad guy here. It makes sense
obviously in retrospective when that was happening. But yeah, and
then like I think, when it worked out, I'm like,
what the fuck is this movie? Everything's just working out
so easily for these characters, like they're they just they're
they have a safe pass to go and everything. But
it makes sense Ramsey was on their side, and I
like how like it wasn't even like Ian who was
initially in the mastermind of it.
Speaker 1: No, they're like, oh Ian gots this information. She's like, yeah,
you got it from me, you know, and stuff like that.
And I felt like, I don't know. Again, with the
kind of lazy writing, the fact that Dotson never picked
up Ramsey was in on this, it was like everything
bad was happening around like what Ramsey was doing, and
he would I thought when he because he's like, get
me a doctor, Malcolm am Ramsey like, oh he has
some bow figure, yeah, and he's gonna call him like
they're both fucked.
Speaker 4: Like that's where I thought, because how they get.
Speaker 1: Screwed up, it's so annoying. The writing how they get
screwed is like you said, Crookland, where everything goes right.
The only thing that goes wrong is somehow when they
burn these locuses, which we'll get into. There happens to
just be faulty air. Faulty air, and the room fucking
breaks and they break through glass. This is a trillion
dollar corporation, and they did not have like steal over
the glass.
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 4: What's happening?
Speaker 1: And that's where it's like, if that didn't happen, they'd
be completely fine. They would have got either. So it's
not like you could take out dots in of this movie,
like once he fires Ian, you can just take him
out because he does nothing.
Speaker 4: He does nothing.
Speaker 1: Because even with Ian, he at that moment that's when
he shut down the train and everything like that.
Speaker 4: Once that happens, you're done.
Speaker 1: Like you don't need dots in anymore because everything that
else happens is like park or just a disaster and
stuff like that. But that frustrated me so much that
these locusts got out because there was glass above them.
Speaker 4: You gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1: I know some might be like, oh, well they need
the sun, that's fine, But if you're gonna burn these things,
you tell me, like my fucking car has a thing
that comes over the roof and covers the glass, you're.
Speaker 4: Telling me they didn't have anything for this. This is
like it's so frustrating.
Speaker 1: But that's where when he called them both and I'm like, oh,
this is where it's gonna show some of the villains
smarts because he figured it out. But no, he just
acts like a fucking child when he figures out Ramsey
and Ramsey. It was weird that I think it's not
acting pure directing that they're just like, hey, we want
you just to stand there and take it and not
say anything.
Speaker 4: Like he doesn't really say much and he just like
he's like with like.
Speaker 1: An awkward like smile, like, yeah, I fucked you over that.
Speaker 4: That's just about it.
Speaker 1: It was a weird circulation events when the locus has escaped,
you know, cool imagery of like the looks on fire
And it doesn't make much sense that that big what
was the t rex that was going after everybody Taylor
or not the big like the biggest game larg whatever
it was.
Speaker 3: The what is that?
Speaker 2: We don't talk about Bruno parody there Trevis I do.
Speaker 1: That's a home joke with me and Emily, So I
can't get him that full story, but that's what I thought.
So it's a guy Gantosaurus guy Ganotosaurus. So I'm just
gonna call him the guinosaurus. It's like so he is like,
I don't know. It's so at one point I just
had to bring this girl forget it. There is a locus.
It's completely on fire.
Speaker 2: He heats it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's young.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: Later on we got Jeff Golden who takes a locus
and throws it in that same dinosaur's mouth and it
like de buffs and deepowers the door.
Speaker 3: No, because he takes up a spear and like, uh.
Speaker 1: But that the spears him because when the fire hits it,
he's like like he's like the dinosaurs has such a
hard time, but he just.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of like if you have a like
a hot pepper and you were to like bite into
it with your teeth and like get into it, like
you could probably manage that, but if you just like
put it right in the back of your throat on
your uvula, like you're gonna fucking feel that.
Speaker 3: That's last thing.
Speaker 4: I just wish they didn't do it before where it
was like just don't make them eat the fire thing,
you know. So, but yeah, I want your breakdown.
Speaker 1: Tell us about this Locus because this is the main
I did not think out of all it's so funny,
what the journey we want? Right? Some of the nons
boys where when we got the Fund Kingdom, like, man,
it's goin this movie. The next one's gonna be about
dinosaurs in the world. This could be great. It's not
about that. We got the preview and we're like, oh man,
this movie's actually about Chris Bratt just trying to get
Blues Baby back. I was like, uh, not really a
fan of that, man, Dude, I maybe wish that was
just the full movie, because no, what the movie's really
about is biosid has created the well you go ta
because I want you to explain to all scientists.
Speaker 4: But Locus's locuses are the main plot of this movie,
what's driving the entire part. We got our characters back
together and I was just when she Ellie threw the
locus on doctor Grant's desk, I was like, what the
fuck's going on here? Like why is this like?
Speaker 1: And this is where like, oh, it's just a sci
fi B movie, So ty, what what is buzzing up
to in this movie?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 5: I mean with with these things, they were just trying
to create more purely dred percent genetically authentic creatures, just
so they could tap into it and just come up
with new ways of curing humans and human people, I guess.
Speaker 1: But you're missing one part too with the crops. But
the crops, well, they were taking on other people's crops
because they're like.
Speaker 5: That was a very loose like squat like because they
tapped that at the beginning and I understood it, but
then they didn't kind of come full circle on.
Speaker 3: That, so I kind of like just put it off
to the side. But that is one of the plot
points for sure.
Speaker 1: Their plot point was to take other people's crops so
they could make more money off selling food because doctor
Grant's like, well, you know, what's a few that million
people hungrier? It means more money and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the dude from Tom Rader there, that's.
Speaker 1: What doctor Grant sound like, give one life for a million.
Speaker 5: It definitely was, uh, just another shady thing that they
were doing, and I like, I actually liked the conspiracy aspect,
like the locus.
Speaker 3: Are definitely a huge factor, and.
Speaker 5: Like what I wanted less locus, Like sure, I always
like trade more dinosaurs for locus for sure, but I'm
definitely not like taken aback by it.
Speaker 3: Or anything along those lines.
Speaker 5: I thought, Okay, like I can run with this because
it's definitely them, just like it's I think it was
Ian Malcolm calls it in the last movie, like its
genetic power has been unleashed, just out of the box,
and like all these companies just going crazy creating these
things and just taking full advantage of this genetic power,
and now you have these things that they definitely frightened
me because I just I was thinking like, eh, this
is this is terrifying.
Speaker 3: And that whole scene with the kids was super fucking freak.
Speaker 2: That was a choky scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know, it definitely worked for me.
Speaker 5: I like them kind of using that as a narrative
to connect our characters, the two main storylines between the
Legacy and the new characters. I guess, like you have
Blue and Mazie and then the Locus. I liked how
they used that to kind of tie and not and
bring them together. I think it worked for me in
terms of timing.
Speaker 3: And development, but the Locus themselves as this main kind
of like plot line. Yeah, I didn't mind it. I
didn't mind it at all.
Speaker 1: Actually, so I gotta give call him big props because
I didn't even think about this, but he's like dead on.
Didn't even feel like a dress part movie, more like
a Bond movie featuring dinosaurs to me, and man, that
that's really like the locuses is really that all the
game is called Travar the luckiest filmmaker in the world.
He I understood how Michael Bay kept getting away with
doing Transformers movies because he's Michael Bay. I don't know
how Colin Tabarro is if you want to I hate
say this, but if you want to use the example
of like white privilege in Hollywood, my god, like, I
don't know how he's doing these movies and get like
and he's probably gonnan't get to do another one too,
like for once, you know, I'll give Cat saying, you
know what, you made a really good call making sure
he didn't get to touch Kylo rehtt like imagine what
he did with Dots and then Kylo like we could
have been in this era, you know, and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But just very cast Kylo ren with that Dotson.
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, yeah, tell you go before I talk about
the locusts, Well, I just I just.
Speaker 5: Wanted to point out because on the topic of James
Bond feeling, I actually thought that woman in white, that
pawn broker check, I thought she was actually the pump
up from Mission Impossible. It was like, really fun, is
this the same universe? I was like, Ethan Hunt, is
he gonna like swing in here?
Speaker 1: Like yeah? That was That's probably my least favorite portion
of this movie. That first half of getting to the
Island not good stuff, but yeah, the locus is I
mentioned a little bit. That's where it's like, Okay, you
guys really like that the children thing. I think it's
like it's probably like it's a good scene in a
different movie for me. That's the problem where I just
think none of this fit. It felt very off. Like
I said, I didn't like the sci fi ron, I
did not like the plot and then what they gave
like I thought we could have gone so many different ways.
And that's where it's like, I guess I can't transition
where dinosaur are just in the world.
Speaker 4: You know, they're just all in the game.
Speaker 1: You can go back. Well, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: I Kirkland and Taylor.
Speaker 1: What do you like more this or Rise of Skywalker
I'm definitely Rise of Skywalker and I'm not even saying
I can like Rise of Skywalker that much.
Speaker 2: I'd pick this probably this, I think, Wow, yeah, it's
been a while since I've seen rid Skywalker though.
Speaker 1: Yes, so these guys are definitely on the wrong side
of history. So there you go, everybody.
Speaker 2: But I will just like to add to that.
Speaker 5: I would say this because it still has like the
elements and components to conclude elements of this story for
these characters, where I mean Rise of Skywalker was like
we're regoing back on things and kind of going crazy,
which they did in this movie. They definitely went back
on Mazie a little bit with her history and everything,
actually heavily, but at least it felt like the tracking
of it was a little bit more cohesive than Rise
of Skywalker.
Speaker 3: So that's why I give it the edge.
Speaker 1: But even then, they kind of do the same thing
where they like, we wanted it, but they almost try
to like let's just make sure Grant and Elliot are
to get there, like let's break them off off screen
everything like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how's your husband.
Speaker 4: Oh Mark, Yeah, oh we're not together.
Speaker 1: I literally like that.
Speaker 2: It was good.
Speaker 4: I did guy in the theater.
Speaker 1: I was like yes, and Emily just looked at me
like yeah, fuck them, like they shouldn't be together.
Speaker 4: That was a big mistake that I did.
Speaker 2: I literally, yes, yours, you said somebody in the theater.
Speaker 1: No, I did that.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: When she said we're not again like yesorn too.
Speaker 4: That was a mistake.
Speaker 1: In three, they should have found a way to put
them together and go back to our three retrospective. I
talked all about that, but yeah, the locus is I
just not a fan of any of that. Again, it
put the dinosaurs out a back seat. And that's where again,
the dinosaurs were kind of already in the world. They're
already in black markets. People are like breeding them and stuff.
There's all these things that have developed with dinosaurs that
I feel like we completely missed out on, Like how
did this all happen? How did we wrangle them all up?
And it really like I guess I thought about where
it's like, Okay, if these slex amount of dinosaurs the
world got together, could we like wrangle them up and
take them sure? I guess they just make it feel
really easy at the end, where it felt like such
a huge threat that dinosaurs are in the Living. It
really didn't feel like the way. It's like, no, we
locked them all up. We are already using them as
like sports jackets and rugs, and we're eating them and
the only other place where they run wild has brought biosen.
It's like, okay, and what was super annoying. This is
where I feel like it's kind of like Rice Skywalker
where the way when Rice Skywalker ends and it's like, oh,
we're just kind of we finished the original trilogy again. Great,
this movie ends with okay, and all these dinosaurs are
on this island and it's their own sanctuary.
Speaker 3: Well they're not on an island, they're still in it.
Speaker 1: Whatever. But that that line of like reasoning is the
same thing we got in Drastic like World and stuff
like the Lost World and Durstic World. Like there's so
many fucking names here, but they.
Speaker 2: Were never gonna stop having these movies for these reasons.
Speaker 1: It was just the same thing, Like that's how these
dinosaurs were left last time, right, And then it's like, well,
the volcanoes coming, so we gotta figure them out.
Speaker 4: But it's the exact same. It's exact same. We're leaving
these dinosaurs alone for themselves.
Speaker 1: We get like nature take its course, Like no you're not,
We've done so it's just like again, it's just recycling
similar plots, and then the new plots are bringing aren't
that great. So one the Locus, I thought, like I said,
they made the dinosaurs a bag, they just made them
a monster traction. That's why I think for curricular tear.
It sounds like you guys enjoyed the dinosaurs scenes a
lot more. I like them, but that's where it just fuck.
They just popped up when they need and like, oh,
we need to scare here, we need to scare it
where they didn't really feel that essential to the plot,
which really sucks when it's a Jurassic movie. And then
the Locus is just kind of bore me overall. But
it got the team together, so I guess it's fine,
you know, but.
Speaker 2: I think, like also another like plot point negative point
I have is like from Fallen Kingdom, Like probably my
least favorite part of that entire movie is like the
whole emphasis on like gene split scene, and I understand
that's been like an emphasis like it's been around since
the first Jurassic Park. That's how they got dressed like
the dinos in the first place, but like they just
they just are like amping it up by like one hundred.
Like in Falling Kingdom we got introduced to Maze, who's
like literally just a human clone. And then I think
when I because this movie had been in the works
for so long, like I remember the comments of like
no more, no more hybrids, like we're not any of this,
and it's like, okay, nice, some positive news. And then
in this one, Okay, we don't really have hybrids, but
we still have these like killer raptors that are just
like you laser point and they'll just hunt you down.
And then we're still getting like a huge emphasis on
like the gene stuff of like uh with the locusts,
Like that's literally what that whole plot line is there
is they're they're manipulating like the food supply. I don't
remember the full explanation of it, but.
Speaker 1: That's something because every crop that gets attacked it's not
bos and crops, so they're just like targeting anything that
they make more money.
Speaker 2: And like all of that stuff is just getting like
further away from the dinos, and like what Travis is saying,
like it just makes the dinos this monster threat as
opposed to making them like a center piece of the movie.
And like, I don't think I'm fully in your camp, Travis,
of like like I still think they do have a
like a relevant space in the movie, but I think
we could have just had a plot line around them
as opposed to just being sworn by dinos.
Speaker 5: To counter that, I would say, like Michael Crichton at
his core, like for being like the father of these,
the author, this friend, the author, I wish you could
see this movie.
Speaker 3: Well, I think I wish he would. But the thing
about that as well as like these, these movies aren't always.
Speaker 5: Supposed to come back down to two dinosaurs and like this,
dinosaurs run around with people. Like the big thing with
Michael Creichton and his writings is that it's the immaturity
of humans and their errors in creating and tapping into
things that they shouldn't be that could lead to significant
human extinction and dangerous events and horrible cataclysmic things of
occurring on this planet. And that's one of his most
reoccurring themes in several of his other books. So when
you have a theme like this where you have human corruption,
genes and all that stuff, and just the greedy, horrible
aspects of humankind, just reaping the rewards of these things
that I think that kind of goes more in line
with what Michael Crichton would be aiming for.
Speaker 1: I guess how many Drassic books were there though too.
Speaker 5: That you only did the two, and so this was
like the second one was what Dodson was up to.
I can see where their ties connecting. This again, they
don't have actual written content to run with, but when
you look at that second book Dodson, you can see similarities,
not in.
Speaker 3: How he acts, that's the actor's thing, but in what.
Speaker 5: They're trying to do with like the company and everything
along those lines. And then again you can't pair it
up against his other novels, but his other novels and
certain themes that they tackled. This again kind of shifts
in line with how he handles his writings.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 1: But I think my problem is in these movies they're
just line drops. It's ian Malcolm says a few things
in a speech, and then we got big moorcycle chase.
Because if we talk about in the first Drassic Park
that works, and even I think to Lost World where
we have big action scenes, but they have moments of
dialogue and they're talking about these things. You get a
moment of dialogue and then there you'll so what it is.
Let's say there's a thirty minute scene. Two to five
minutes of that scene is about the moral morality of
life and what's going on, and then twenty five minutes
is motorcycle chase, gun shooting raptors. And that's where it's
like what we talked about the first Drassic Park, the action,
the chase scenes, the dinosaur fere it's probably pretty minimal
when you look at screen time because the actual conflict
is about what you're talking about, Taylor. That's my problem
is the dinosaurs represent that conflict where I thought this
movie could have been, Hey, these dinosaurs are in our world,
what do we do? And then you could really talk
about that, But they just skip that to get to
like the cool fighting. They skip that to get like
what Kirkland point out. I think it's a complete like
cop out to be like, yeah, we don't have hybrid dinosaurs,
but we have laser tracking killer raptors now, and it's
like that's just the same thing. That's the same thing.
You're just saying, like oh, we found a way. And
it's like, I know he could say, well in this
universe owned Grady trade in them.
Speaker 4: He did, but it's very loose.
Speaker 1: Every time when Brady sees blue, he's still just like
everyone fucking get ready, Like he's never calm. He's only
like we could fucking died at any moment, like look
out here. Like so, but the fact that these these
raptors and it was weird too, like that scene with Barry.
I like that Barry came back. That's great. He's like,
so there's this one raptor that's tracking him right, and
they're gonna do this whole you know, roll and get
him in the locker.
Speaker 4: That's all good. I like the chemistry.
Speaker 1: I think they bro hugged way way too many one times,
just like yes, and they're just like right after it's like, man,
there's still fucking gun shooting going on, like let's focus
up here. But he does that, and then at one
moment he tells that lady to put it like see,
I put your hands up. She puts her hands up
and she hits like prat with the tracker. So what
were those dinosaurs? They're just chilling there the whole time,
just like they're just waiting for their call for the
next tar. Yeah, so either one that is like okay,
that's how they work it. Like I said, that's like
a lame hybrid with or just bad editing. And they're
just like they come like raptors.
Speaker 4: She clicks her she.
Speaker 5: Clicks her bracelet and it kind of pulls them towards her.
Rememberhen Bryce Stylice Howard had her there, and she clicked
it and it sent out a signal.
Speaker 1: To what were those raptors doing before while Barry and
Chris Pratt were doing their thing. Because she hits it
and those raptors running from out of nowhere in the
same area where.
Speaker 3: Were they they're probably chasing the other dudes.
Speaker 5: She no, nor from that far they were on Chris Pratt, No,
but no, but she like, well they.
Speaker 3: Run really fast. I mean they're keeping up on bike
seeing those things could run. Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 1: That's where Yeah, it's just again where I agree with
you too, that there's moments where they try to hit
on that. Like even at the end, right, they try
to make it not just about global warm but I
feel about everything where it's like, hey, we can face extinction,
but the biggest thing is we have to work together.
We have to coexist, whatever problems is. We have to
find things. One people are gonna watch a drastic movie
and take that from it. But why that's not gonna
happen because the movie is not about that. Jurassic Park
is about that. This is about let's have a fun
time with a bunch of chaos. And that's where I
think they had a chance. And I think even Jurassic World,
the first one has a bit more of those shades
of going too far, the like commercialization of things, because
there is a lot of action Drastic World, but we
get a lot of like I think, like the moments
in Drastic World, we get i don't know, half an
hour to forty five minutes before shit really hits the fan.
Shit's him the fan fifteen minutes in this movie with
those locus and stuff, right, So there's not a moment
to breathe. And I think they just do that, in
my opinion, because they don't know, Like the writers can't,
they can't tackle what they're not Steven Spielberg, you know
that's and it clearly shows in my opinion of like
you or not, And yeah, that's a big thing to
come up to, like, yeah, you're not one of the
Grace directors of all time. But that's why he made
that work. That's why he made Drastic Park. And I
still think Lost World. I think Lost World is fucking
like the Godfather compared this like work because he's still
touching upon those aspects. For this movie has some line drops,
but is not about, in my opinion, those things. And yeah,
that that power broker lady or whoever she was, man,
I did not I didn't like anything. I didn't like
the black market. I didn't like the selling of people.
Jessic Smith was back. I was glad they didn't make
him yellow bunch, you know, like good for him and stuff.
Speaker 2: I have like a different voice too. I swear he
was talking all like deeper and manly, or they gave
him a beard. It's like this guy's all grizzly now
working for the CIA.
Speaker 1: Where actually the fuck we didn't do that. But let's
take an ad break right now, and then maybe we'll
talk about the original characters.
Speaker 4: Talk about some good stuff here because we haven't touched
upon them, so.
Speaker 1: We will be right back, all right, Taylor Field, you
started off, how did it feel seeing doctor Grant again.
Oh man again.
Speaker 3: That was one of the scenes that made me tear up.
It it hit me right in the fields.
Speaker 5: I really liked him just he just he just fit
back into this theme like it was yesterday and yeah,
he just his dialogue worked for me when he just
starts talking to Ellie Sadler and then Ian Malcolm gets
back in there and Ellie Sadler's like, oh, he's slid.
Speaker 3: Into my DMS and he's like you what, Like he
just is hilarious. I love I love that that.
Speaker 5: Innocent humor of those one liners, because like he's not
to me, he's not tech savvy, and like, holy shit,
he just.
Speaker 3: He reminds me so much of my dad. It's unbelievable,
especially in this And I think just sam Neil, I
didn't I didn't need like a whole adventure like Dress
Park one or three with him and this.
Speaker 5: I just I just needed to have him back in
this role and I got that, and just him him
having these moments of weakness with Ellie Sadler.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, this is cool. Or's just working there.
Speaker 5: You know, when you're when you're old and you have
a love that's lost, but she comes back or he
comes back, and you just like you got you don't.
Speaker 3: Got to give any fox. It's like, let's just go
for it. And there they were all inexperienced Taylor, uh
not old yet, but but yeah, they're just they're just
going at it. And I loved it. There's these passionate moments.
Speaker 1: Okay, please pause for real, have not seen the movie.
Speaker 4: They're not going at it.
Speaker 1: They're not.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, when they fell then they fell the locust
the pen and their clothing was all ripped and they
were ready to pounce.
Speaker 1: On each other at the end, and the rest is
longing looks, which I all like. But I would not
classify this as going at it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: We looked up that term their mad amazing. They're like, oh,
ship back there.
Speaker 2: I gotta I have to say, you're fucking on the flooring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my, my.
Speaker 5: Another scene that brought tears to my eyes was I
really liked when they found Beta and Mazy put her
hand up.
Speaker 2: I just thought this is super cool that she just
she just like pulled that out, did.
Speaker 1: That, and then.
Speaker 5: Chris Pratt kind of gave direction and then Alan put
his hand up and then he was doing the control thing,
and he started to move off to the side and
he was just doing the thing, and I started to
tear up.
Speaker 3: I thought, Holy funk, like.
Speaker 5: This is our our raptor expert, our dinosaur man and
he's actually doing this. I'm almost tearing up right now
actually thinking about this again, but like he just pulled
it off. And I love seeing that just come full
circle where he's been terrified of these things.
Speaker 3: Like you remember this sounds same comes remember that.
Speaker 1: He's telling everybody, you guys, remember the fucking sounds about
to make one lives with me.
Speaker 2: God, I was chuckling too, because before they got to
that moment when they like corner Beta there and then
Pratt takes the shot, they're like walking down He's like
watch the.
Speaker 1: Sides that they always come with the sides, and when
he just.
Speaker 2: Has these like lines of like he had like the
original experience.
Speaker 3: He was talking about, like oh, and then we realized
like no, they go for the throat and every like
he's just he's so good with that. I love it.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, Oh yeah, I know, he's fantastic. And even then,
like I'm not sure if he knows this, but when
they do the three of them. It's the reverse scene
of Chris Pratt from Jurassic World right where he has
his hand up three raptors.
Speaker 4: The time it's one raptor and three humans. So it
shows that I.
Speaker 1: Thought the gun was risky because I remember in Jurassic
World he specifically said, if you shoot this animong and
lose trust of it, So I was kind of surprised
he was gonna shoot Beta and I don't know, like
I know, maybe it's young enough, no impressiable enough, but
I was surprised that that was the way.
Speaker 5: I don't think he's caring. I don't think he's caring
about like first impressions with this thing. I think he
just needs to get it out. It's a wild animal.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: At this point, he brings it back to Blue. Beta
tells Blue what happens? They just fuck up the whole family.
Speaker 4: That that was the dark ending.
Speaker 1: Chrispats looking there like like like smiling in the truck,
and Blue and Bay just run back and just fucked
them up and that was the end. Like I would
that would have been so bold, but obviously not.
Speaker 2: But go getting another another Jurassic World movie with this cast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, they didn't want to come back. But uh,
you spoke a little bit about Kirkan, but yeah, doctor Krant,
we snirt with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I I thought that moment was was good.
Like I feel like just some of the like the
dialogue they had to get I think it could have
just been a little bit better. Honestly, I don't know.
Maybe I just had like because I knew they were
coming back, and I like I loved the chemistry and
like the lines that they had in those Durrassic Park movies. Like,
I think the chemistry was there, It's just some of
the lions were just lacking a little bit for me personally,
Like I felt like Laura Durham was very like like
charismatic and like I don't know the best way to describe,
like she just she just seemed really like joyous and
like pumped. And then it just felt like certain moments
like Sam Neal was just like it was just like
going through the motions again, Like I I feel like
it was just like the script there because like later
on when he was just being Alan Grant again, like
I was totally in on it. I swear this guy
should just be Indiana Jones. Honestly, when he like had
the torch like down in the caves. He just he
had the look. It's on the poster too for the movie.
I'm like, this guy is just Indiana Jones.
Speaker 4: Now he looks fantastic, but he looks fantastic.
Speaker 2: No, he looks fantastic. And I think, like all the
callbacks to the Jurassic Parks, whether it's his experience and
says like I was kind of joking about the line,
but like it was still really good, like in the
moment again, just to like have him there, like with
the new cast, I think, like those moments are really good.
Speaker 1: And see that's the stuff I prefer over the dots
and can stuff of like he's talking about the come
from the sides, but that doesn't feel like it's it's
an easter anyway because he's talk about it before, but
it's not out of context because like they're in the
middle of hunting a raptor. He would explain this too
brazy or something like most of the I think fans
server stuff they gave the o G characters for the
most part pretty much worked like even then, like wait,
it was a little egregious when Ian Malcolm shirt was
like a little button and he's like, oh sorry, but
like that still that's don't work for me. Like I
still think that's on the line of the good side,
you know, where it's like Okay, it's situational, and I
think they nailed that stuff with them.
Speaker 4: It's the other stuff in the movie where it's.
Speaker 1: Like, hey you remember remember this can remember Dodson, remember Newman, you.
Speaker 4: Know, like they do that not too much.
Speaker 1: It's not as bad as some other like some of
the Star Wars stuff we got, but I agree where
those lines I think worked for me, like the callbacks
because they were situation. They're callbacks because unfortunately he's in
the same situation again, you know.
Speaker 2: They didn't have a raptor calling a thank yeah what
else with him?
Speaker 1: Like I I.
Speaker 2: Like getting back to that when Laura Jeez, Ellie Elly.
Speaker 1: Nelly, when like.
Speaker 2: They're in his tent, not not getting all hot and
heavy as Taylor was described again, like when she was
just talking about like this new chapter of her life,
like her kids are grown, she's like single, like she
can just be She's like excited again to like be
in this line of work. And then she's like I'm
living the.
Speaker 1: Allan down Grant life.
Speaker 2: The Allen Grant life. And then he's just like it's lonely.
It's lonely Ellie, Like he's just like living this really
recluse life. Like I think I was just chuckling just
because like from him, he just he's been alone, Like
he doesn't have kids, he doesn't have a significant other,
unless he's just cheating on her with Ellie. As soon
as Elie comes back.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have an awkward conversation when we get bad,
but it's gonna be fine, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I I honestly, I feel like, out of
the three original characters, I feel like, honestly, sam Nea
was the lowest out of the three, and I feel
like I was expecting more. And it's not like he
was bad, It's just I had my expectations is so
high because he is the lead and like that first
one right even in the third, So I I think
he was like I don't even want to necessarily say
I was let down. It was just like I was
hoping for more from him specifically. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think there's even I think it's mostly dialogue because.
Speaker 1: I guess there it's weird because I've seen him and
other stuff recently, like the Tyking, like like the wild
People and stuff like that, I'm screwing up the title
where the wild people go? Or where who? God, I'll
look the wilder people, Wilder People, thank you?
Speaker 4: Like he still has it, and it just felt like
maybe he was.
Speaker 1: I just feel directed poor the Organs because was these
dialogues where even the where she's like oh at the end,
like oh, I'm you're gonna go back to your tendon
to come with me, and he's just like, I'm going
with you. But it's like that's all you can think of,
like he did, like there's nothing clever, There's nothing, And
I feel like that's the problem that other than the
lines that he has that are kind of having some
tributes and I think that he has again charisma and
good chemistry with or Durn, but it's just that I
think they just gave him, I don't know, not the
greatest script for him to work off of, unfortunately, but
he still brings it, you know, And I think, Yeah,
I still like that he's always annoyed with Ian Malcolm,
Like I love that they're always is, but I like
that he saves them later on and the last shot
of them two together is them talking and he kind
of like doesn't have his hand over him, but he's
like grounding his shoulder and stuff like that. So I
like that. It's again it's it's fun. He's like, oh,
I haven't seen him in years, and him and Allie
have been talking for pretty much that whole time, So yeah,
he is wondering. Like I agree with you, like all
that innocent humor works with it because that's I think
again that's where I attribute to that's sam Neil's like
face reactions, you know, like he's good at selling that stuff,
and of course we set it up for that. But again,
I don't attribute that much to the directing. But yeah, no,
I love sam Neil and almost anything, so it worked
for me by grief you that I would rank them
the lowest. And Laura turns always great, Like I think
she's the best actor out of the three, and you
just kind of see that there, like she's just like
she always feels like a bear, and I love Golblum,
but I feel like she can just do certain things
that those two can't, and I like that she was
like the.
Speaker 4: Charge of the mystery. Yeah, it's a little weird that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I need you to come here because people are
gonna trust you and stuff like that. But that's where
it's another thing that I don't like about the plot,
where their mission kind of feels pointless at the end
because everyone would believe them after this because everybody turns
on Biosin at the end. It's not like I wish
that biosin like it gets destroyed. And the thing is,
I guess you want to do the whole thing where
Dodson gets the bad death and he gets teared apart
by dinosaurs, but there's no come up in form really
there's like his biggest fear to me was being outed,
being no like he deleted files, they were burning the
things he didn't want to evacuate the park and stuff
like that. To me, the biggest fear was the world
knowing that you are a piece of shit that have
been like like taking food away from people and like
that's prison time that stuff like that. But he just
gets to die and none of that happens. And that's
where it's at the end where the movie's plot was, Okay,
we gotta get which it feels like it got so
off to a different realm. But Ellie and Grant got
to get to this laboratory get DNA from the slowas
because they can prove that these are powered by biosin
and they're doing the trouble right jumped the end this movie,
You're going around this area field, multiple people doing interviews,
somebody how bad biosin is all this stuff, and then
Lord is like, well, we gotta get this DNA to
the last like it's proven. It's all like everyone's gonna
already know Bioson's a bad guy, Like everything's gonna be
in there, and I guess the DNA just like like
double confirms it. So I thought that was kind of
weird that I wish that Dodson maybe didn't get killed
by those dinsaers and thought he got away with it,
and Ellie having this DNA would've been like no, like
fuck you, like you deleted everything and got with that stuff,
but this proves a right here and like you're going
to prison or something. But no, they just went with
like the very action near thing, So I think they
kind of took that away from her. I thought she
could have had a big moment because I just laughed
when she's like, oh, I got this DNA it's like,
for what what does it do now? Like it's it's over.
It's like, cool, you came here for nothing, Like apparently
all we had to do was just break the glass
where the locuses and everything would have fell apart.
Speaker 2: So they could have just fucking hit that button without
like doing anything, like it would have just ended all
the bios you know.
Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah, it would have breaked out. But so that's
where I liked that she started the mission. I just
wish they would have kind of had her finish it.
But then they again, they do this thing like Fallen
Kingdom where they're gonna go to court and they're gonna
talk about all these things, but they skip over that stuff.
They're like, oh, the audience isn't gonna care about people
talking about real world stuff.
Speaker 4: It's like, no, like that's why I like dress Park.
Speaker 1: But yeah, alas, that's uh, you know what happens. So
but she was great and I really liked her team
ups with Bryce Souse harrowa who have not talked about
I think add a new people. Bryce house Horr's act.
She also the best I've liked her arc of where
we went from world to where she is now and
we see a lot of like her taking chances.
Speaker 4: But especially in that way.
Speaker 1: It's so cool where you think about Steven Spielberg directed
the first one. Steven Spielberg and Wrong Howard are good friends,
so you have like Laura Durn working with Ron Howard's
daughter here like in real world stuff. It was just
cool to see these like people literally of the old
school of Hollywood and new school were like working together,
people that have worked like she's worked with his dad,
like all this stuff. It's really cool stuff. But I
just liked them as a team up together. There's some
cheesy one liners in the middle of the dark Locusts
stuff that I don't know if like when they break
the powers to call that feels good. It's like, all right,
I don't know if I needed all that, like some
of the one liners that are met. But overall, Laura
Durn was great.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. What was I gonna say, Oh, yeah, you brought
up a good point on like how Laura Dern's character
started the whole mission with the locusts, and I think,
like how that ended. It just goes to show like
how bad of a point that actually was, because like
nothing even came of it at the end, like it
literally was just to get them to biosin to interact
like with our new crew. That's something that like I
didn't really even steal on honestly until we were starting
to talk about it. Now is just like I already
didn't like like the locust plotline, but now it's just
like it doesn't make any sense because like, hey, I
got this DNA sample and like we're totally gonna ruin biosen.
It's like that was yesterday's news, Like they're already done.
They kind of shot themselves on the foot just and.
Speaker 1: That's what I said on rewatches, like I don't know
where it's gonna go, oh my god. And that's where
it's interesting though, where if you want them to get
to bios And I just feel like again in the
writer's room, they couldn't think of anything to get like
even using Mazie somehow, Like I'm not sure how they
could have done it. I'm not sure again, Like it's
just even they could have got a call being something
like hey, like Golden feels like they're shady and use
some sort of other reason why they're being shady with
the dinosaurs or maybe they've all.
Speaker 4: No they could have done.
Speaker 1: It's just been like, hey, you have biosin that's like, oh,
we're safe for dinosaurs. And then know what's shown is
they are in the black market. They're working with people,
they're taking these dinosaurs. That could have been your plot
right there of Hey, this group that's showing that they're
supposed to be people or dinosaurs. They're like helping breed dinosaurs.
They're like killing dinosaurs off, they're selling them for all
this money. And Ali Grant or Foot well, I guess
she could be Ali Grant now and the next one.
But like you know, Ali Sadler and doctor Grant could
go there to investigate Maze's already going there because the
cloning stuff, right, And he even said, which we'll get
into fucking doctor Wooh my god, what a.
Speaker 2: Character want to come in to Jesus moment that guy.
Speaker 1: The weird thing was he says like, Okay, we could
use this a fist locus. And then also what he
says is every generic back guy says like, oh, we
could fix cancer, Alzheimer's, but it's already there. They could
already want Mazie to come back because they want to
fix those things. So you could take the locus out
of this movie. Make a few adjustments, and it could
be the exact same, if not better, because you could
be shorter or focus on more other side.
Speaker 4: But though the I want to know where that.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for interviews to see like where that
locus idea came from? Like what inspired them from that?
You know, so Tarrifield, Ian Malcolm or if you want
to mention anything on locuses, if you have any counteracts.
Speaker 3: I mean again, I was just locus. I didn't mind it.
Speaker 5: I with the whole thing with Ellie Sadler. I loved
her in this movie too. She was awesome. I thought
her set up with Bryce Alis Howard doing the power
grid thing down below was a good callback.
Speaker 3: To the first movie as well. Ian Malcolm kind of
guiding them over the radio.
Speaker 1: But that was so good. All that stuff for me
worked when like he was not wrong when he's like
it's four from the bottom and she's like, you'll be
more specific, and he's like three from the top, like
I don't know if you could do it, and then
Ramsey's like it says this thing and then they hit
it like oh right, and he's like, yeah, that's what
I meant like.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's so good.
Speaker 1: But all that humor for me was when there in
the Yeah, I went in the control room, like we'll
get to him, but fucking Goldwland knocked all that stuff
out of the park.
Speaker 5: But but yeah, I I I take it again, not
as too much of a red flag where she went
there with this mission and.
Speaker 3: There's still biles in execs.
Speaker 5: They got to lock up the corruption, as that guy
said and everything like that, so there's still.
Speaker 3: Work to be done, I guess.
Speaker 5: But I just took it and say, this is their objective,
and their objective got them to the island.
Speaker 3: That was good enough for me.
Speaker 5: I didn't really need anything more than that, just that, Okay,
they need to get Henry Wu out of.
Speaker 3: Here to do what he's got to do.
Speaker 5: But I'm a little more lenient, Like it's different for
the GA and you guys, because with Henry Wu, I
feel a little more lenient on his change because of confrontatious. Again,
that's a whole other ballpark and I can't have that
kind of factor into like the majority of this kind
of this perspective of his character because all you see
looking at these movies is his first appearance in the
first movie, then Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom, and he's
always playing the same part.
Speaker 3: And I liked how Ian Malcolm was like, oh no, no, no,
what is he doing here? It all starts with this guy,
like he just wants to make right and this guy's
just Malcolm's just putting him in the corner.
Speaker 4: But doctor Grant, He's like, I remember you.
Speaker 1: I liked all that.
Speaker 3: That was so good.
Speaker 4: Yeah for me, Oh go ahead and keep going.
Speaker 3: Uh, just I'll cap off with you in here. Like
he he really delivered again in this week.
Speaker 5: I put the whole Legacy cast just like together, like
Henry wu Is in his own different category. But like
the Trio, the Trio, the Trio Legacy characters, they're all
on the same pedestal for me, I love them so much.
And Ian Malcolm was just a he's just a delight.
I loved again we got another like story about like
the familial bond. He's like, I had a dog once,
a pump in my leg I had to wear a cast.
Speaker 3: I just it's so random. I like that a lot.
Speaker 5: And again I liked I just love his lines. He's
just he's freaking hilarious. He's so freaking hilarious. He's just
poking holes in people's story like, oh, you made a
promise with a dinosaur, like, oh, you call the diner,
you give the dinosaur a name.
Speaker 3: Like He's just so freaking fun.
Speaker 1: He was snacking like the first one again, he's uh,
he was stuff. Yeah, it's funny. You show the dog line.
That's the only gold one that didn't work for me.
I was like, Okay, I don't I don't know if
I need that one. But he saw it out work
for me. He did. I was like, I don't know
if I need a dog humping joke here, but no,
everything worked here. I liked at the beginning where it's
like I knew he wasn't gonna be shady, but he's
just playing off like no mappy except the money, and
you know we're all gonna die. So I'm just trying
to live the best life possible. I got five kids,
so I'm just I'm just doing what I can here.
Speaker 4: And I like the actual.
Speaker 1: Introduction scene where he's giving that speech and they come
in and he kind of sees them and stuff. So
I liked all that. I love.
Speaker 4: I actually really liked doctor.
Speaker 1: Grant getting the argument with the coffee guy.
Speaker 3: I just I was kid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the back and forth because again that's just
Sam Nearly just.
Speaker 1: Sound like I just don't want anything, like he's just
a crumpy old man. I love it. But yeah, and
again he's like the inside spoty talk about that he
hands it off and all his dialogue and that's definitely
the theater my feel likes. It was pitch quiet for
that movie, but they woke for or Ian Malcolm and
Golden still has it.
Speaker 4: He's the same thing. He's looking great and uh yeah
he I was happy.
Speaker 1: Again. If we don't see these characters ever again, I'm fine.
But it was like a good close out. But it
still shows that if they want to do more, like
these guys, all these guys in this gal still they
all got it. They still got like those they know
the repertoire and yeah, he he's a plus. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I said this still like I.
Speaker 1: Don't know if I'm gonna fight from harder than the Year,
but like I could like maybe maybe see myself given
like the fifth slot of Best Supporting Actor in Golden
Geeks to Golden because he was so good. We'll see
because it's a stacked year, but he was that good
where I thought, man, he he's somebody that really delivered
on all that stuff.
Speaker 5: So yeah, when he got fired by Dodson, I loved
his dialogue, just like a re on them out like oh,
you know, he looks at all the staff, He's like,
you know, all these guys, they just promote you with
all these promotions, and you just ignore, turn a blind
eye and just go ahead and do Like he just
starts shitting on everyone, and I love that so much,
And then.
Speaker 2: You have like a Dodds then just like stop that,
like like like talking a terrible fucking villain. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Also I also another thing I like is when he
gets the gate and they're at the cave, which I
just that's one part where I question. I'm like, I
don't know, you guys are gonna just go explore around
here like all right, like people should just sat in
their fucking tram cards and mid okay, But either way
they end up fine. At the gate. I love when
he's like there could be nineteen million like that or
nineteen thousand possibilities and he just starts like plugging away
at them, just hoping one's gonna.
Speaker 4: Be right, and obviously Ramsey does.
Speaker 5: One, but he's like, I think I think he got
the one right because he did the same two numbers
that Ramsey did, and I think he was.
Speaker 3: Doing the right code.
Speaker 1: No, I don't have the probability.
Speaker 2: I think it's just like, ah, it worked out, I
got it. Well, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And he's just because it always feels like he's off
the side saying some.
Speaker 2: Of this, oh yeah, like he's got like a different
gain on his MIC than everybody.
Speaker 1: And he feels like he's a great like NPC character
you have with you the whole time, and he's like, fuck,
I love I need a Jeff Gold m PC. But
the only reason I think it's Ramsey because why else
would you have that scene of Ramsey doing it? If
because it would. I feel email was a smart guy.
But I don't think he's going to figure out this code.
You know, you'll have to, you know on the rewatch
Kirkly when you see it.
Speaker 4: Pause, have you seen this one more time before it
goes out of theaters.
Speaker 5: I'm probably gonna see it two more times. I'm gonna
take my sister and then I'm gonna go take my dad.
So two more times reminded me one more thing. I
just want to shout out that back to Alan Grant.
That cave seem when uh, they're all trying to escape
from the Demetrodons, which is absolutely fantastic. I love seeing
the Metrodonns live action. That was super cool.
Speaker 2: Climbed the ladder, that was like one moment maybe jefft
but the dude in front of me, yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 4: I looked at him like, what did you say? Thing
with you two? What do you expect? Was given me
this fucking line.
Speaker 3: I don't know he was like looking.
Speaker 5: I thought like, oh, maybe it's like okay, It's just
it happened really quick that I didn't have time to
like brace myself because yeah, he just like throws up
and and then they all started coming out everywhere.
Speaker 3: It got me real good.
Speaker 5: But I loved when he leans back and he's hatless.
That's the first thing I realized, like, oh fuck, where's
his hat?
Speaker 1: And he looks for his hat and Ellie's like leave
that hat.
Speaker 3: He reaches out and grabs it. I love so much,
Like I was afraid he was gonna die. I was
afraid Ellie. I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't have any fear of dying, but Grant, I
was afraid, and then Ian, I really was afraid he
was gonna die. At that scene, I.
Speaker 1: Thought Ian was a gone er. Yeah when he yeah,
the scene I did like when I didn't like with
the fire, But I thought he was just gonna do
a self sacrifice because at first I swear I was.
I definitely was wrong. I thought I heard the car
honking in the scene when the dinosaur was attacking him,
but it was not the case. But I thought he
was gonna pull the trigger. I thought he and it
made sense like he'd be the one because yeah, he
does have the five kids, but like I'm sure they're
all grown up.
Speaker 4: It would be tragic, but like I'm sure he's like Sam.
Speaker 2: Neil would be the one to die out of anyone there.
Speaker 3: No, that's what you thought initially I did.
Speaker 1: But when when we first meet him and they're hitting hard,
the oh wouldn't have been great if we fell in
love together, if that same scene in the beginning would
have played, and it would have been like, you know,
Mark's great, the kids are great, but I really need
your help. Then I'd say, okay, the plays you take
out Sam Neil. But the second. The second he walks
in that room and he's like, oh, I got to
clean up, and I love the touch. Actually he takes
the photo off the wall of him and Ellie together
when they're younger. That's when my mind changed, like, no way,
he's dying because they got to put them together. They
were just hitting hard that they missed out. These guys
were the people that were supposed to be together because
he didn't want to have kids.
Speaker 4: They could have not just work three. They should have
not have done any of that shit.
Speaker 1: But that's where I thought, Okay, once we met the characters,
he was the one to go because he's making all
this money, he has the five kids.
Speaker 4: We got to get Ellie and Grant together, at least
the kiss.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If the kiss had happened already at the midpoint, then
I'd say, okay, maybe Grant could go. Because they're holding
out for that kiss to the very last bit. It
it's like, no, there's there's no way. It's it's Grant
or Elly. And but Malcolm I thought he was he
was gonna go. And we know we got everybody, We
got everybody still there. You know, we have our fifty
million white people and the one two black characters. But
you know, you know it's all good. But I just
like because when it was just her and everybody else
was white, I was like, man, like, haven't got.
Speaker 3: The Asian chap two be uh uh Winery Woo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they made the one Asian.
Speaker 3: He trustworthy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they made a very untrustworth all.
Speaker 2: He's a spiritual now he's got long hair, holy when
he first strolled in, So she's like with where he
was and like the previous Drassic worlds where he's like
a turtleneck wearing like super quiff like James Bond villain
type guy.
Speaker 5: Right, he's just a slave being passed around from one
rich dude to and his body is all abused.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm sorry, and Donthan's like it always works out,
like you know that. He's just like this is why
it works. He's like we have It's like fuck man.
But at the same time, it's like because Woo's done
all this terrible shits, like I don't care about him,
Like I'm like, yeah, sure, be shitty too him because
he's like they made him in Jurassic World and then
Falk Kingdom, so like over the top villainy.
Speaker 4: This like good guy turned for.
Speaker 1: Me was a bit too. We talked about the trailers,
was like, oh, I've done so much bettuff, It's like
I needed a little bit more for him to like
have that good guy turning man. Like Emily hadn't seen
the trailer, so when we saw his look, she's laughing,
and then I started to laugh because it just it's
just so funny. But a man at the end when
he does that thing with Locus and he like releases
and he's just like looking like simple wu over here
and he's just like simple cheering with locas as fuck,
like he I hope the world does some great meme
stuff with Henry wo for this movie because and like
I just love when we talked about Ray but when
they're ready to leave and he just appears in the shadows.
Speaker 5: Like, oh fuck, I totally forgot about him at this point,
and I was like, who's coming out?
Speaker 3: Like I thought he was wearing a hood and everything.
I was like, this is a mysterious character, and yeah,
Henry we was just Saunders. I was like, well, I
was not expecting that.
Speaker 5: Then he like trips and like breaks his arm outside
like when they're running into the coffer.
Speaker 1: I know, I know this is a bad time, but
I need Mazie to fix the stram.
Speaker 3: He's like yeah, he's like hugging his briefcase hard there.
Speaker 1: He's just like, man, I just wanted Chris bad to
turn on just fucking shoot him in that moment, so bad,
not with the trenk, with the real gun. Like it
was just like I wanted them to leave him so
bad because that's the only reason they didn't, because it's
this mazy vouch from my Oh he can fix things,
but he just came out of nowhere from the shadows
and we meek joked about this, but we didn't get
too because we talked about dots and the Ramsey fashionable
thing was so weird. The editing in this movie multiple
times is really really bad. And that's why, like I said,
I have to fail because just like on a movie standpoint,
it's just I can't. I can't personally pass it. So
I have the scene where Ian's met it with the crew.
They got out of that cave thing and then they
run this uh this you know beacon and they're up
top and we get that big dinosaurs seing Donostarsy dinosaurs,
seen lots of action, right, it's happening. They finally get
a moment. They're making their plan. I don't know how
fucking happens. Ramsey has a scene with Dots and oh
it was you all along. Yeah, I'm gonna stand here
and smile. And then literally the next scene, the exact
next scene, Ramsey walks in the center and say, hey, guys,
what's up? What's going on?
Speaker 3: Like, no, I can clarify this, no, but.
Speaker 1: It's the exact same scene.
Speaker 4: It happens right after he literally walks in the room.
Speaker 1: How did he get there so fast?
Speaker 3: To the tower they were at? Yeah, they weren't at
the tower.
Speaker 5: Remember, they actually went underground and there was that scene
was actually going in the tunnel and they walked to
the command center and that's where Ramsey met them. The
buildings look very much similar, like same setting.
Speaker 3: How he gets there so fast?
Speaker 1: So it literally he walked at Dots in the office
into their room, That's.
Speaker 3: What he felt like.
Speaker 5: But it was just it was just it's just the
same like a small compound headquarters like area. But like
they went for the main characters went from that tower underground,
went to that command center and then I mean, like
he just told it. It's like, if you want to
go bad editing, I would say, okay, Like the woman
is flying the wrapt Or on the plane Kayla, and
then she just shows up next to like seconds later
and she's just chilling in the black market under her.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that didn't make sense.
Speaker 3: So there's that.
Speaker 1: But I think the way they edited Ramsey going over
he didn't make any sense. It felt like because we
didn't see them travel that much and just felt like
he just showed up randomly and he just knew where
they are. So it was it was strange that a
lot of fast travel happens in this In this movie,
the plot fast travels, and the characters are just they got.
Speaker 2: A bunch of pounds used to the Dino's fast traveling.
But now it's the actual humans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they've evolved. Let's take our another ad break
and then we'll be right back. And we're back, So
where are we going to go?
Speaker 2: I didn't give my thoughts on Ian other than just
joining in on you guys, but I basically agree with
everything you said. Like I think he was ten. He
was so good like all of his little as you said,
Travis who hides off into the shadows as he does
another wardrobe change. Like I just loved all of his
lines when he was just like speaking kind of in
the background but like not really doing like not really
adding to a conversation, just like giving his little two
cents as if he's talking to himself. Like I think,
I think he's just like a master at that. Like
it's probably so hard to like teach that type of
like timing on like line delivery, but like it's just
Jeff Goldbloom being Jeff Goldbloom in those scenes and he's
he's so good. I left so hard though, because like
when you first get introduced to him and he's doing
like that that lecture or whatever in the lecture hall
at biosin like in my mind, I'm like, this is
just this is probably just Jeff Goldbloom, Like he doesn't
know he's being filmed right now. They're just like recording
him behind the scenes. He's just like giving this really
like deep talk just like how humans are just destroying
the world. It's just like I feel like there was
something specific to like Dino's, but honestly, he could have
just been Jeff Goldbum just going on a rent there,
but all in all, like I think he was fantastic.
I definitely thought he was gonna die. He had like
a Rambo moment of just like throwing the flaming javelin
into the mouth of the the what's it called, the
World's Giant penis?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the seven wrapped.
Speaker 4: You're gonna think about that next thing you hear about
I ruined you the same way.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know he was. He was fantastic.
Speaker 4: When you watched The Batman and you hear this.
Speaker 2: Co yeah, you're ruined that for me too. But I
don't know where to transition to Mazie. We haven't really
talked about her. She's having her her teen angsty years,
just getting a little bit control issues from her parents.
Just wanted to bike to the local lumber yard and
just I.
Speaker 1: Feel like it's a pretty like I know, he's like,
I remember how we were at this age. They make
naze you pretty smart. So I just feel like if
you were explained, Hey, you go out there and you
get known, you're gonna get fucking killed, maybe get experimented on.
It's a pretty good reason.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Claire, like we gotta hid her up. But it's just
like we don't know the situation, what's going on completely here,
So it got us from even then. I don't know
if it was needed that much because she gets I
don't know, she gets kidnapped.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's fine, yeah, what about the uh the fucking kidnapper.
When they first like zoomed to that guy, I completely
forgot about him till now. That goes show how the
impact he had on me. But like when they first
go to him, he is like this, like I think
it's like a tear drop tattoo or something. At first,
like the angles at I thought it was the Jurassic
Park logo, and I'm like, this is our this is
her picture here he has a drastic park like tear
takes a seriously, yeah, he just looks like a fucking
serious his forehead. I would have been the cherry on
top for me.
Speaker 1: The part that was super strange is when they get
Beta and Chris Pratt sees him. They stare at each
other for like ten seconds. Pratt does not movie. She's
like like breathing heavily. And I think Chris Prat's worst
acting in his creervers when he gets when we say, Claire,
get the guns getterer.
Speaker 2: Then we gotta go. It was I was like, you
really ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah, do we not got a take? We got another
take here we could do. It was it was really strange. Yeah,
those those those poachers, man, they were.
Speaker 2: But when they first showed the poacher, like I said,
I pictured the dress Park logo, and they just had
this like very stereotypical like bad guy like theme song
music that like like quickly shot. It's like a just
like a rant, you know, just to like have like
a threat on screen. And I like, I literally just
chuckled out loud like when they showed like this poatry guy,
I'm like, hey, he's fucking a bad guy. He's definitely
not a good guy looking looking up for Blue and Beta.
Speaker 1: Here him and every.
Speaker 4: Wound just looking like the worst people in the world,
you know, and one of my touches too.
Speaker 1: Because at this point they know Chris Pratt has seen them, right,
and for some reason, when they get mazy, they just
cut to the guy who has the Jurassic Part tattoo
and he's just like whipping the bike off the bridge,
and it's just like you can't cover this up. Like
it's like they we know they know that you got mazy,
so it's like, I guess I'm a big wolves in
the bay of the vehicle.
Speaker 4: It's like they have a massive truck. And it was
just funny. This cut of this really bad teachers, like, fuck,
he's just like just bad. He's bad to the bow.
Speaker 2: Man made me thinking Anchorman Jack Black, like, no, Boxter,
I love that bike more than anything in the world.
Speaker 1: Bad.
Speaker 4: So she's like, you know, we gotta go to show
up and get a new bike.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, honestly, I don't have much that amazing.
Speaker 1: I agree with you that it was. I thought it
was a strange retcon to be like you actually weren't
a clone. You were like, she's a clone, but like
you weren't like a test tube clone, like your mom
did birth you, and like I have a mom like
they did this reveal. It's like, yeah, but mom's still dead,
Like it doesn't matter that much. Like the point was, Okay,
you have this genetic thing that you fixed. She added
disease or she died and she fixed you that way,
But you could have still done that without her still
being a clone.
Speaker 4: So I like the thing is that again, what is
good about this the cast? I was good.
Speaker 1: Same thing with fall On Kingdom this. I like the
girl that plays her. I think she does a good job.
She's not like a bad chold actress. I'm down to
see her in more different things in the future. I
just don't have much add with Mazie. She acts with
the cast. Fine, she acts with Chris brad and Price
house Hard Fine.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, No, I put it all down to
the writing. I chuckled there when you're talking about that scene,
because I completely forgot like when like this, like I
literally was like I chuckled. I don't want to say
I laughed out loud, but I definitely chuckled out loud
to the point that like people could probably noticing the
scene when Henry is like talking about like no, like
you weren't just born in the test like again, I
don't remember your mother made with herself. And then it's
like the same thing that blued it, and like it's
just I think I was just still so blown away.
But like the other side of the spectrum of Henry
wu from like where he is a Fallen Kingdom of
like the turtleneck, he's got the long hair now like
he's wearing a shirt probably made out of hand sh yeah,
like he probably grows pot now, Like he's just totally
hippie compared to where you know that that.
Speaker 1: Guy shooting harrowin just to get through the night man,
he's like Jesse and breaking beat and like, oh I
can rest. That's all. That's how big Dad. Big Daddy
needs his mad. I thought it was gonna happen when
he's like, oh you like you weren't made that way.
I thought for sure he was gonna say I made you.
I thought that's what we're going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was like, oh, please, no, don't dude.
I'm glad they didn't go that way. And even though
he was firm, God.
Speaker 1: I'm your father, mazing fuck, that would have been some.
But no, but even then they like they you know,
put him in the background of her studies. I was
glad they didn't go that route that he didn't like
tube or something and were like, I'm the one that
raised you into your grand particularly.
Speaker 2: No, I think they were like leaning in this route
of like he was like in love with Charlotte or something,
and it was just it was a lot of Henry
Wu in that moment, and it was just tough. It
was tough. Because he was changing like outcomes of the
last movie, right, like like the words that he was
saying is like, no, she wasn't just made by her grandfather,
Like it was actually Charlotte who was the one like
hands on making her to fix her so that she
live a full life. And then like later on when
you get like the line I think it's Laura Dern
actually when she's interfaced with Mazie and like that was
like that was ten out of ten. Honestly for me,
I'm just like again a little bit lucky that she
just knew her mom and that instant.
Speaker 1: That happens a lot of this movie, oh yeah, eight
years ago.
Speaker 2: But like, like for me, it worked in that moment
I credited to Laura Dearn Honestly, on that whole moment,
I just like she wanted you to live a full life.
And I'm like, holy shit, I'm almost tearing up here,
like this is really good. And then you go back
to like Henry Wu speaking a very very similar moment
like your mom fixed you so you could live a
full life. And it's just it was so hard for
me to take it seriously because Henry Wu is the
dude that was like a total villain in the last
Jurassic World movie, not even just the last Yeah, not
even just the last one, Like since Jurassic World happened,
he was this bad guy.
Speaker 1: It feels like we're, in my opinion, always, we're missing
a movie that there's something in between where you saw
a lot of the changes happened. And this is where
for me again back to all the game's question of like,
which is worse for me? This Arris Skywalker. The reason
I have this is worse is we're talking about like
to mention that too with this shot thing. Maybe get
wreckcons a few things. Colin Trovarro wrote the last movie.
He wrote that movie. This is He's He's written all
three where from it went from JJ to Ryan to JJ.
So it was like, oh, clearly that's why, because there's
a big miss up, there's different writers happening. Colin have
this in mind.
Speaker 4: Is this like such a big plot point change up
that it really points me?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I just kind of went to sign like, Okay, when
I rewatched this movie again, I'll have my phone out,
I'll go get some food or something like that. Like
I don't care about any of this stuff. But it
is all like the change up of Wou like such
a hard like quick changeup, and this Mazy storyline kind
of randomly when I don't think he really needed to.
I don't think he needed to do this, and he's
the one that wrote the last movie, so I don't know. Again,
it's I agree with all the game where he said
this way earlier, but BA said following this new trilogy
and book of Henry which don't watch book Henry Contravel
must be sent back to any world for a number
of years. Please keep him away from large budget productions.
That's the problem on Hollywood. They're gonna look at this
and made a lot of money. Well, he's doing something right,
and I don't think he will be. But yeah, I
think he does need that because I just I don't know.
I'm not I'm not confident in his writing ability and
going forward. So Taylor Mazy Charlotte, well you got it.
You had on a little bit early when you're talking
about like some of the wreck coon, but anything specific
pros Conto.
Speaker 2: You mentioned some crustaceous things like is he a relevant
character in that.
Speaker 5: Henry Wood becomes kind of more prominent later on, just
with certain kind of like getting more of his research
and everything like that.
Speaker 3: The whole thing with him in.
Speaker 5: This movie and his turnaround kind of perspective Again, I
I kind of run with it because those other movies
like I don't get across around his neck now, Yeah,
like he just totally felt like he like went to.
Speaker 1: Does he actually have a crossround?
Speaker 2: No? No, I was joking.
Speaker 3: You can believe that though he comes.
Speaker 1: Out where in the corner he's just rocking back and
forth his prayer beads. Yeah, yeah, fuck, But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't see him as uh it's perspective
and those other movies like is he is he? Is
he evil? I won't say he's evil.
Speaker 5: I think he's just at the expense of uh these
maybe evil people and then people that are just again
I say it again. They found their dad's gun and
he's just all he wants to do. And they reiterated
that in this is that he just wants to create
his days. He just he's like Frankenstein, like doctor Frankenston.
He loves these creations.
Speaker 1: I think the only thing that doesn't line up with
your cantercation stuff is that could be the right motives,
but I think it's the way that what's his name again?
Who who plays the actor? Who is the guy that
plays them? Shit is Beadi Wong right? Bed? Yeah? Would
you agree though that at least in the movies Jurassic World.
In fall Kingdom, he plays him in a villainous way,
like his persona is very kind of Bond villain as
I will.
Speaker 5: Well like Bond villain as sure, but I don't see
him as being a villain. I just seem as being
protectable for what he created. Especially in Fallen Kingdom that
just seems even more amplified, where it's like, no, hey,
like I made these things like again, like oh you did,
like a transfusion of blood transfusion, Like are you kidding me?
And then even then when he's selling this dinosaur that's
not a perfect specimen that it could be if one
of his creations, like it's like, no, this is outrageous.
Speaker 3: Like you can't do that.
Speaker 5: Like he's just he's primarily always concerned with what he's created.
So in this context, yeah, he's just he's filled with
regret and he's being baited by the carrot of your diamond.
Your diamond dinosaurs all be taken away and be gone
if you don't keep doing this for us, so.
Speaker 1: Like, why does he care at this pointing where I
guess that's the other thing. We just don't know enough.
Speaker 5: You know, it's a scientist, and I often meet a
scientist and ask, yeah, hey, do.
Speaker 1: You relate to this guy in the movie? Do you
relate to?
Speaker 2: And just the sweater man, like the Cardigan just doesn't.
Speaker 1: Even here though he looks like a fucking villain, Like
he looks like he's planning to kill James Bond.
Speaker 2: This looks like he's in like a Predator movie or
something like does look like the face the face huggers
oh Man.
Speaker 1: One thing I was gonna mention, are we done with Mazie?
Speaker 3: And uh Henry woo with Mazie.
Speaker 5: I I did really enjoy your character a lot more
in this than I didn't fall in Kingdom. I liked
the dynamic of her going into town. And again that
was another scene I cried when she walked into town
and the I'm just gonna roll with it a patosaurus,
but don't quote me on it, that's actually what it was.
But when it was just kind of lingering there and
the people just the music kicked in, the people got it. Out,
another one popped up and they both sunned it off.
Just beautiful scene, and yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Think she did good.
Speaker 5: I liked how she was learning more about her lineage
and everything along those lines. I liked how she had
her scenes with Beta she's learning. I liked her scenes
with Beta a lot that really jibed with me, and
uh yeah, overall, definitely improvement from the last movie.
Speaker 2: Do you think at any time that she's just seen
like a t rex just fucking murk, like a full
family of whatever. She's just like, yeah, I did that.
I'm literally the direct cause to all of them.
Speaker 4: They didn't get into any of that thought they would
kind of touch.
Speaker 5: Up, well those weren't those weren't all the dinosaurs right, Like,
she's not literally the only cause because they said like,
oh we pulled all the sore and a dinosaurs too.
Speaker 2: She's like, you think that was one of mine?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's keeping a.
Speaker 1: Tally like ray like her parents coming back, which is
like the people she kills, like fuck yeah, Like, oh,
let's take a probably the last ad break, because then
we'll get into I think it's just a bunch of
maybe random things to shout out smaller characters moments, so
we'll be right back. And we're back, So I just
want to quickly shout this out because I will forget
about I did all like notes for this movie. So
there's a scene where planes going down got attacked by
terror Dactyl's you know, to beat Billy didn't come back.
A lot of characters came back. No Billy in this one.
So Billy, he's probably dead somewhere. You know, he's gotten
some trouble.
Speaker 2: Imagine he's in some Mexican prison.
Speaker 1: So anyways, so stealing or something. He's on that black
market for sure. There. Yeah, anyways, that would have been
a great moment of granting this black market. Just sees
Billy there like some druggy there with the dinosaurs.
Speaker 2: He's looking fucking terrible, dude, like he's either the terdactyl
poop like that was just white all around his lips.
Speaker 1: And he has like the same vest that doctor who
does all the turning good guys have that vest. But anyways,
I gotta take this picture, but just showed one last
time before I delete it from our stream years doctor
Wood there, because we'll never use it again. It's haunting.
It's fucking haunting. It's gone.
Speaker 4: Was the plan's going down?
Speaker 1: I only got one shoot bold for Kayla to be like, yeah,
it's fine, I don't need to use the shoot, you know,
I only plan for one, but whatever, Okay, cool she
used the brave badass and they tell Bryce Douse Howard
Claire like you're gonna go you know, she needs her mom,
and I just again it didn't happen, but I just laugh.
They sent her up there, really cool shot of but
like the chairs going, it's from that perspective everything, and
she pulls the shoot. Second she pulls the shoot, the
terran actors is going fucked her up, and I would
have just laugh.
Speaker 4: In the world they're watching like, oh, Clear's up there
and she just got.
Speaker 1: And that's why they sent her out there because like
oh the tear do like we don't want to go
like deter them.
Speaker 4: It was so funny.
Speaker 1: I like, this was like she's going because this was
the safe plan, but it was like almost the worst
plan because she just out there and just got demolished.
And then she goes down there and I like that
scene where she's signed the water, but I just laugh
for like, what a way to go? You thought you're
gonna be sick. That'd be a terrible way. But yeah,
I wound very funny. I was chuckling in the theaters
one percent.
Speaker 2: Like it led to great sequence. It was like that
poster sequence right with her, like crawling in the water.
Did you already answer this? What that dinosaur was? The
Edwards one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Freddy Krueger's Madison called it. There is a
no saurus.
Speaker 2: I believe it is, Okay.
Speaker 1: Did you like when they teamed up at the end
of the t rexidim to kill him, they did a
Colmo move?
Speaker 3: I like that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: I love that got me. That got me good.
Speaker 2: So I would have predicted that, and Travis wouldn't have
liked it. So yeah, like what fall? It was great.
But as soon as like she lands, she went through
that horrific moment of like basically dying multiple times, and
then she just like sees the command center like like
ten kilometers away, like bare minimum, Like it is so
fucking far away, and she's just like in between many
light jog yeah, many many dinos between there and her,
and then it's just like, oh, well, like the smoke
is like where safety is basically, and that's where Chris
Bratt and uh Kayla, I forget the actor's name was.
I was just like, man, what a terrible plan that was,
but I don't know led to some good entertaining moments
at least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys think you could have held your breath
that long under there?
Speaker 2: Fuck no, I am not a strong swimmer nor like
lung capacity person, so yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Could have done it. I just would worry, like when
do you come up?
Speaker 1: Like you never know when it's gonna be good to
come up, right, you gotta hope that it's gone and
look up, but still like that's some muddy water.
Speaker 2: It's gonna you're like, yeah, you're choking out, losing your
last air. You just it's just staring at you, is
just waiting for you, Like what do you do? Do
You just stay in the water and like drown.
Speaker 1: I'd probably rather drown and then get like, even if
you're not fully dead, you'd probably die in your sleep
by killing you.
Speaker 4: I'd rather die from drowning than that, so.
Speaker 2: Fair enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I just stopped talking because my headphoness made
a really weird I was wondering what that noise was,
but you heard it, okay, because I was like, what
the fuck is that needs.
Speaker 2: Me or something? It's it's time to wake up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1: I think you guys might talk and shout some things up,
but I think I covered most of stuff. I just
really want to stress that I really hated the black Market,
the Mission Impossible character stuff like that did not work
for me at all. And that was the lowest point
in this movie. That's where I was like, this is
that was fallen Kingdom. Like for me, that was that
same territory of man. And that's where I think the
third act when they get together is when the movie
goes up. I think Act one and two are pretty
similar for me. But that was the lowest of the
low even though Berry was back and I liked him enough,
But yeah, you guys made show some stuff up. I
think that's most of the random stuff I have.
Speaker 2: Like the the fake White Widow, the Vanessa Kirby want
to be character. It's like the parents are here and
she's calling Dodson. It's like, oh, you take care of it.
It's like for whatever, free enough for free, and then
he just like takes the phone down, just get done.
Speaker 3: It's just like, really, like do we need this people?
Speaker 2: Did we need this at all? Like we didn't even
need her to call Dodson, let alone, like have more
just screen time of this fuck god here.
Speaker 5: After seeing like more of her, she's still her glasses on,
I was like, is this aquafina? And then she's glasses
I was like, Okay, no it's not, but I thought
it was after after thinking like, oh is it Vanessa
Kirby the aquafina to not just being a different actress.
Speaker 1: So, and I still don't know where she's from because
me and I'm looking at right now the whole time
like we've seen her and something we've seen her, but
I have not figured that out. So I'll probably reveal
that at the end here.
Speaker 5: So the sequence of them being in the I love
the black Market setting. I love seeing the different dinosaurs
just like on like one dude's got one of those
aerial ones Camember the name of it, but on his
like on his wrist, and all the little dinosaurs, the
fight pit going on, everything like that. I thought it
was really good, just cool. It almost felt like a
weird moss Icily equivalent Star Wars. And I definitely enjoyed
what we got because I mean this is a shitty
part of what people would do with these exotic creatures.
And I guess moving on from that when we got
to the other stuff with the agents, I actually liked
it because this I like the mission impossible vibe that
was kind of coming from it, and it just for me.
It was cool because we haven't had this in a
Drastic Park film ever before. Like it's such an eventful
spy action thriller packed.
Speaker 1: I think it was asked for. I think that's why
we haven't gone yet. But you know, yeah, I'm happy
you enjoyed it because it's your franchise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cofully Taylor. In that moment with like the black Market,
when all Hill is going loose, t Rex is like
basically fighting each other, I just laughed so hard of
he like, there's still dudes just like like gambling.
Speaker 3: Money, yes, throwing more money, and.
Speaker 2: They're getting all jazz, mean while there's just a giant
carnivore like right behind them. They were dedicated that their
rent was probably on that game, so they didn't matter
if if life was going oh yeah, mayhem behind them.
Speaker 5: That one guy went out really shitterly. Both his arms
are being eaten and he's just stuck there.
Speaker 1: Fuck Taylor, big thing, Where did you get? We did
a newscast on this. Do you feel justified or satisfied
the answer of Scooter Guy? Because I was looking out
for that because in the trailer there's that moment where
Scooter Guy is going, and we've talked on everything like that.
I feel like it's even worse that he was still
scootering around with these dinosaurs were loose, because like, clearly
the town was already ruckus and he was just scootering
in the middle these dinosaurs and he got a know.
I was worried they got taken out because it wasn't up,
but no, he just got he got aid and and
he's that guy's a fucking idiot.
Speaker 3: He's so I let it slide. Kick again these dinosaurs
Fast Travel.
Speaker 5: I let it slide in the moment because like it
was just all hell was breaking loose and he didn't
know what the fuck was going on.
Speaker 1: I believe in the Fast Travel Jean he did.
Speaker 5: I believe he's the guy too that won the contest
where you get eaten by dinosaur, and so that was
his uh, he wanted to be and I think that's
what it was associated with.
Speaker 4: I thought your toe on real word, like that was
the thing in black Market you could bet on, like.
Speaker 1: Who wants me fucking dinosaur?
Speaker 4: Okay, that's cool, that's fun.
Speaker 1: That'd be awesome mm hmm.
Speaker 4: At least memorable eat.
Speaker 3: You know, it was definitely a memorable eat.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was like all over the trailers too,
marketing material.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: A couple of the things I want to shout out
was I was really afraid that the queen of easily
new bloody t Rex is gonna actually die at the
end of this because that I can't remember if it
was Collin Tomorrow who was saying it, but it was
gonna be a very fitting end for the dinosaur, and
that had me kind of a little bit alarmed because
I was thinking, like shit, I don't want her to die,
and seeing her have that little tussle with the Guyanotosaurus,
initially I thought like fuck I it just bit down
on it, like the front of its face. That's brutal.
But it saundered off and I'm looking for the distinctive
marks in the neck to make sure it is the
same t rex because I know that there's other ones.
Speaker 3: It's Precamp Cretaceous.
Speaker 5: But thankfully like that well that yeah, thankfully it's alive
or she's alive. But that scene where it got like
she got whipped up on the side of that slab
and just.
Speaker 3: The helicopters flying up, and I thought, fuck, she's dead.
This is brutal.
Speaker 5: Then we're zooming in on it and it's like the
ceremonious kind of like close out, I guess, and then
the other dino pops into Freddy Krueger to kill all
the Guyganotosaurus And when it.
Speaker 1: Hmm, I was just gonna say, what was the fitting
ending then? With her?
Speaker 5: The fitting ending that I really liked was when she
was saundered, Like I love that she like snapped out
of our unconscious state and fought back.
Speaker 3: That was great.
Speaker 5: But the fitting ending for her that I really liked
was that she was walking around in the resort area,
the sanctuary and these two other t rex when I'm
I get to see live action three t rexes, which
was the three Tyrannosaurus rexes, which is fucking fantastic, and
I full on attribute it to those being the same
ones from Soorna And there's no one that can say
otherwise because when they.
Speaker 3: Said the movie brought dinosaurs from a sona.
Speaker 5: I just love the idea, Like, hey, we got the
two from Lost World, and we got the original one
from the first Jurassic Park. Just like here they are
and even their colors distinctively looked and resembled that where
at Easel Newblars was much more of a brownish color
and these were more like a greenish gray in their
skin tone. And I just really appreciated it. I thought
it was just again, I loved that moment so so, so,
so so much. It was a nostalgic kick.
Speaker 1: Very nice. Glad you got the fitt of ending anything
else to shout.
Speaker 5: To there that pyro raptors scene, again, I really enjoyed it.
When it went under the water and it was soup
and around and Chris Pratt fell through and then it
like jumped up and it was just chasing them.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it was just it was freaky. It was
a very freaky dinosaur.
Speaker 2: I think that would have been so much better if
they kept that out of the trailer because it would
have just been such a chakra. If it just went
in the water there, it would have been so much
more y. Yeah, but I agree, So I still love
the scene. Like I mentioned the non spoiler, I think
of just like the design of the Dina was really cool,
had the feathers and everything. I wanted to shout out.
I think it's it's like when we have like the
Days of Future past moment and like the old crew
meets the new crew and it's just really awesome and
then they kind of they're kind of saved from some event.
I don't even remember what it was specifically, but then
I swear it was like a mixture of like the
original theme and like the new like sort of dress
like world like modern theme of like the dress up
part theme. It was just it was really cool again,
like all of them were kind of just like sitting
there together and then you had that play in the background.
It was just a really cool scene.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Was good to The score was fantastic. It kicked in
some moments in the high Gear that I loved.
Speaker 3: Oh god, what was that other moment when uh they
were finally talking.
Speaker 5: It was after they escaped the guy gan out to
Saurus and they were just having their dialogue and Olwen's
like finally like, oh you know, yeah, you're Alan Gratz
and they start talking and having that moment. I really
like that and the kind of like you trained raptors,
tell me the sounds you did the.
Speaker 1: Joke with me what they sound like?
Speaker 4: And he pulls up the Billy things like.
Speaker 2: I got you remind me that was actually in the
movie the resonated the resonating chamber camp in his tent. Yeah,
he had it like behind him.
Speaker 1: I did you see that Billy there too?
Speaker 2: That was pretty sad. It's just like a skeleton of
him like in the Jurassic Park three you have, like
that's what he wanted. What's like the husband that she
didn't give a fuck about when he was Mark Mark
the new boyfriend?
Speaker 1: Was that Mark too? No, No, Kirklin's referring to the Kirbys,
that husband, like the new.
Speaker 2: Guy she was dating.
Speaker 3: Oh, Ben Hildebrand, Yeah that's Billy.
Speaker 1: He's just like you hung from like a parachuting thing
in his office. Lord Lord, Oh that's Billy.
Speaker 2: You didn't get me a white ship, always lips.
Speaker 1: He was a man, love Billy. One thing I liked
quickly in that same scene is when he was explaining
the dig because people could do tours. There's just people
on their phone not giving a fuck about what I
was talking about in nice touch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, jumping back to when they're like comparing careers, you trained,
you trained, wrapped? Fuck No. I love when Owen was like, oh,
you know, I I loved your book. I read your book.
He's like on tape. Yeah, it was just a quick line,
but it made me laugh.
Speaker 1: So one thing they didn't get into is she I
thought they're gonna a little bit when they're talking about
that and then they Claire was like, oh, a Jurassic
World and then Gome's like, oh Drassic World. Huh not
big fan. And I thought they're gonna get into some
more awkwardness that she was one of the big runners
that park, but that was kind of it. They didn't
really touch upon that. Again, she's a ball from that,
so I don't think it's like, oh, you needed it.
But just because Goldbham said that, it's all because she
didn't really like specify that she was like one of
the lead people there. She's like, yeah, it was a
Jurassic World. In the second gold And said, I was like, well,
I'm gonna shut the fuck up about that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, just before I forget, like, I haven't even
mentioned Bryce els Howard. I think since like the beginning,
and like I liked her performance for sure, I just
feel like her general role was definitely more of a
like less forefront character because she was just like she
was just like a mom in this one, right, like
trying to get her daughter, and I think she killed
at like at those moments, like when she was really
worried about Mazie at the end when they're all like
by the campfire, Like, I really liked that. But yeah,
I wanted to shout her out because I I liked
what part of me. I liked what I saw of
her in this movie, but it was just obviously less
than the last two because she had to share screen
time with the original three.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh yeah, you know I still like her, but yeah,
it's once you got those three are gonna spread a
lot more time around.
Speaker 5: So yeah, a couple of the East eggs on the
shutout when Chris Pratt was running through the black Market
and all the compies jumped on him.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 5: I felt like a little Nods Lost World and the
compies are all on you and he's ripping them off
of his body. Yeah, and then again we had oh,
what was that one scene when Bryce Alas Howard was
she parachuted down that I kind of a trope to
the Ben Hildebrand thing where she managed to like get
out of it.
Speaker 3: But he didn't.
Speaker 2: Know that kid was supposed to come back fromhim. It's like, hey,
go find something to get me down from here. Just
fucking kept running.
Speaker 4: I found food.
Speaker 2: And t rex piss.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a great meal for Alan Grant
bird shit in the t Rex piss man.
Speaker 3: It's a good day.
Speaker 5: I have to rewatch it to kind of pick up
a more easter ekes because it was just also the
time just like absorbing everything about this film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the biosin like architecture was pretty fucking cool. I'm
not gonna lie like that that central square they had
or not square more more cylindrical shape, I guess I
could say, but which is really cool design. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's it. We covered everything. I think, So
all right, I'll go first, because I know I got
the lowest score. I think I'm gonna go, excuse me,
I'm gonna give this a three point five out of ten. I,
like I said, I had moments that I liked, and
I think that I had more fun talking about with
you guys, I think funk Kingdom. I gave like a
one or two or something like that. But yeah, I
just there there is stuff, but I think there's sometimes
I always say that this comes out with enjoyability, but
sometimes as a film has a lot of bad things,
I get told with editing the plot, it just does
override where the more critical side of me goes. No,
I just I can't pass this. It's the same with
Rise of Skywalker that I wish I had that score
back because I probably would have failed that too, And
but I just bring that because it's similar things. And
that's where I just knew that that last act is good,
had some fun with it. But overall, when I rewatched
this again, there's gonna be a lot to truck through
to get to that third act again. And yeah, there's
just lots of stuff that I think won't be good
on rewatch. The plots messy, the dialogue's met editing is
not good. So yeah, I know I would. I would
fail this one till and asked me. And luckily it's
been a good year. But don't ask me anything. I'm
gonna have to watch it on for golden geeks. I
my guy, I don't think so, I don't think you're
gonna have to worry. And yeah, it's just it's just
because we've gone so many good movies this year. Me
and Emily saw everything everywhere all once, like for my
second time again, so that was good. And then, like
I said just a few weeks ago watching topic on Maverick,
I know that we can do these huge blockbusters and
be better at them. And that's what was kind of
disappointment this, especially with I would I will watch this
again because those original characters, but I would just love
them would be in a much better movie. And I
think they all deserve better, and hey, they deserve betters
for as they're gonna be getting paid. Well that's fine,
but uh yeah, and I don't know where the franchise
goes next. You talk about an everything I think, and
to make all you mentioned that while I'm speak about
how long until a reboot, I do agree with Tovarro
that way, where he says the reason it probably won't
get rebooted is because no one wants to remake Drastic Park.
And I think what they just do is just you
maybe remake Drastic Park like fifty six years from now.
But I think you just keep it's just gonna get
more actiony. It's not gonna I don't think you'll be rebooted.
I think Chris Bratt and at least Bryce EU's Howard
will be back. I think these are easy paychecks for them,
the original cast. Sure would I like them back to
see some stuff, Yeah, but at the same time, I wouldn't.
I think these are good ending points, and I was
happy for them to return because if we bring them back,
we get in that territory of like you gotta kill
them off or do certain different things. And I'm fine
with them getting happy ending these characters. So yeah, that's
that's where I am on Jurassic World Dominion, which they
did say in the movie. He said he said Dominion.
So there you go.
Speaker 2: I'll go next. I'll ramp us up to the highest
rating guy over here. But I man, what a journey
just this review has been for me, like where my
score was, like during the talks and just fucking talking
about Dodson and talking about some other mister Wu stuff
like when.
Speaker 1: We watched your Assic Park and Newman's like Dodson, Dodson's here,
We're gonna think about this character now We're gonna make man.
Look at what Dodson becomes. You know.
Speaker 2: Fuck, some questions don't need answers. But like, honestly I
still stand where I was on, Like I will pass
this movie. It's definitely over fifty percent for me. I
think the theater experience really boosted for me. Like if
I saw an Imax like Taylor, I can only imagine
how much more intense those moments would have been. Just
to thing too, I was like literally like a week
away from seeing Batman in Imax. I was in Victoria
and they had Batman coming soon. I'm that'll be like forever,
big regret just couldn't go one week one week later
on the vacation. But that's not what this is about.
Was about Jurassic World. So I loved the Diyno moments again,
like seeing new dinosaurs that was awesome, and like the
original cast was it was. It was a great just
nostalgia like thing of having those characters back. And like
I said, like I think out of those three, Samuel
was the lowest for me, but like he was still fantastic,
Like it was still just so great to have him
like be that paleontologist person again. You know, so it
was really fun, but yeah, there was some definitely egregious
moments that I think rewatching this, I'm I'm gonna be
thinking those moments are like Fallen Kingdom level for me personally.
So I think I'm gonna give this one a six
and a half out of ten. Just the dods and
stuff was so bad for me, like really like we
could have done anything better here, and the locusts, Like
I honestly like almost completely forgot about the locusts, like
entering like this review now, and like the whole Henry
Wu thing was so weird to watch, and I think
just like some convenience things kind of bring it down
a bit for me too, but overall like it it
was still up there. I'm very curious to see what
my feelings are on the second one, like if I'm
happy where my rating is, if it's lower, if it's
maybe a little bit higher. I feel like like the
thing that could make it higher is those like epic
scenes and be like, oh, they just take my breath
away kind of like like when I left like Popka
Maverick and was just like holy fuck, like like I
felt like I was in the pilot's seat there, like
that's what that experience was not quite there maybe if
I saw this on Imax. But nonetheless, I'm gonna leave
this six and a half, which is a big step
up for Fallen Kingdom. I don't know. Yeah, I'm curious
to just talk to more like everyday people that I
just just happen to see and like what their thoughts
are on it when they when they see it, because yeah,
I was. I was honestly surprised when I first saw
like the the Rotten Tomato square. I don't even think
that's set in stone or anything.
Speaker 1: Is it like if it's a soon or well, no,
there'll be more, but it's just gonna drop at thirty
two percent lowest Durassic Park whatever Francis all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have at all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't get Yeah, I'm not surprised, it's yeah,
I think people are just kind of it's like it's
getting to be like Transformers, where it's almost like Fallen
Kingdom is met and then if this one's again, people
are like over it. They're like, Okay, what's what's going
on here? And see I've had the exact difference where
the people I've talked to that I've seen it that
are like whether it's like online people whatnot. I've had
that where people like, yeah, this is not I haven't
had anybody I've talked to where I was surprised. I
was surprised you were a six even not six, I'm
surprised by the point five. But I've had the exact
opposite where it's like, yeah, that was an Emily and
I didn't enjoy our time as far we enjoyed it
because we had a fun time together. We had a
like we got two popcarts the other We had a
great time. But like the movie, yeah, I've I've I've
had a different one. But that's gonna be the biggest
thing because next week is light Year. That's big for kids.
But I am really interesting word of mouth because it's
gonna make a bunch of money. It's gonna be a
top five opener. But it's gonna see like, now, what's
the second week and drop, Like the word of mouth
is gonna be really big. But I still think that
draws the original character. You want to go back and
see it because it could be a once in a
lifetime thing, you know, and at the end the day,
even if you don't like it. It's like, well you
had you went two hours and you know, did something.
So I still think it's not gonna be I would
be interested to see if they do a whatever drastic
seven and it doesn't have the original characters back. That
is well one I would say, I don't know how
that's gonna do because like people might not be a
little high on it, and you don't have that selling
of lower Durn Sam Neill. You know, there's no one
to bring back now, you know that's the thing.
Speaker 4: It's like Bill elite but Bill, yeah.
Speaker 1: Fuck.
Speaker 4: At least even though.
Speaker 1: They were all in the first one with Star Wars,
it was always like okay, but Mark Hamill's gonna have
a huge role in this one. Lea was supposed to
have a huge role that or this was they kind
of shot their load, right, But we'll see it makes money.
We're gonna get more and see what happens. For sure Field,
what do you think of this one? Though? Was your
final score? So we know you're down at point five?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know where it.
Speaker 5: Stands in my rankings, but that's say it for another
episode with that, but it's uh.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 1: It did a lot of.
Speaker 5: Things that I really appreciated and I liked, and it
just it hits so many nostalgic triggers for me being
a fan of this franchise.
Speaker 3: That being said, it's not a perfect movie.
Speaker 5: You guys highlighted so many things that again I I
let slide on my viewing I didn't mine. But then
other things that are totally problematic. I will give this
a nine out of ten, and I know that's still
very high, but it's.
Speaker 1: Expecting the nine point five, so it's actually lower than
what was the point five because we know Dogs' is
a point five? What's that other point five?
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, yeah, no, Billy, that's definitely a point five
doc there for me, But no, the other point five just.
Speaker 1: I have like.
Speaker 5: It's hard for me to explain it. I I just
it's missing, it's missing something. Yeah, I would probably feel
more like I could attribute words to it after a
few more viewings of the movie, once I kind of
come to terms with that. But at this point it's
I would still highly recommend that you go see it
in theaters. I think that this and maybe because I
saw an imax, I'm I'm just saying that, but you're
getting dinosaurs see it on the big screen, because it's
definitely an experience in itself.
Speaker 3: To enjoy that.
Speaker 5: But at its core this movie it brought me many
emotions of happiness and nostalgia that I really appreciated experiencing.
Speaker 3: And just the visuals alone were just gorgeous.
Speaker 5: I loved how they closed out the movie with those
different scenes, but the use of practical effects and animatronics,
I am so happy with that. They finally amped it
up and delivered on a whole new front compared to
the other movies.
Speaker 3: The way that the lighting was in this movie as well.
Speaker 5: We didn't get overly heavily used CGI in very bright
light spaces like the previous like Jurassic World, Dress Will
Fall and Kingdom Employed, and I'm happy about that because
it just made these dinosaurs seem a little bit more realistic.
It's something I've always attributed that the first Drassic Park
did very successfully was using those darker environments to its advantage.
Now again with this movie, I love a lot of
the tributes to Michael Crichton's kind of thought process and
his writings, especially to the books. I credit them on
how they were trying to veer off and maybe that's
where I kind of like draw the line a little
bit with my writing as the source material, Like I
feel like these people didn't well Collin Trevorrow in terms
of him writing this they could he could have done
a little bit better on trying to really understand the
messaging behind Michael Crichton's thoughts and his work.
Speaker 3: That being said, like.
Speaker 5: I'm trying not to like contradict or counteract what I'm
trying to say, Like the writing could have been better
on that front, but it's still delivered on aspects of
what Michael Crichton kind of stands for. And I liked
how the movie makes you feel, and I mean this
in a positive way, insignificant. I liked how it closed
out saying, like life, it says this bubble as its
done on this planet for over one hundred million years
in humanity is just like a small.
Speaker 3: Fraction of a fraction of a fraction of that.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 5: And I loved how the dinosaurs again just reaffirmed this
kind of foundation and seeing all the new species is great.
Speaker 3: The callbacks was great.
Speaker 5: It's uh as soon as that steel book drops, like
I'm gonna snag it when they drop that six pack
I'm gonna snag the six pack.
Speaker 1: Like all the other movies, and like steelcases, what you
need the six packs.
Speaker 3: I don't have any steelcases for the movies. Actually I
need to get that. But I have the on DVD.
Speaker 5: I have the first trilogy, and then I have just
like the Blu ray DVD combo of the first and
second Drastic World. So I want that steelcase of Dominion,
and then I want to get the six pack collection
of all the movies. It's my guilty pleasure.
Speaker 3: But definitely, what's that.
Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna get it. You know it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna happen. So go see this movie in theaters. Definitely,
and uh yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we did it.
Speaker 1: We reviewed Drastic World Dominion. That was a fun one.
I had a good time there. Yeah. Our next big
review next weekend will be a light Year. Meantire doing
that on the Sunday because I one has a dance recital,
so I won't be seeing that the Thursday or the Friday,
so I have to do the dad duties. But we'll
be doing that. And then in a couple of weeks
we got Black Phone coming up and then after that
a couple of weeks we'll be thor So we got
a good weeks of some good bangers about to happen here,
and plus we got fucking obi Wan Kenobia Miss Marvel
every week and stuff like that. It'll be exciting to
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obi Wan when you get to jump back into them
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