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Speaker 1: what a day it is today. All the stuff you
Speaker 1: would expect, which is about as interesting as it gets,
Speaker 1: and then some new stuff that just kind of blows
Speaker 1: the roof off. And the new stuff is Colorado's Secretary
Speaker 1: of State. Great work by the Colorado GOP which detected
Speaker 1: that the Colorado Secretary of State is this hyper partisan
Speaker 1: lefty Jenna Griswold who kind of undermines confidence and election
Speaker 1: integrity just with their hyperpartisanship. Is out there always bragging
Speaker 1: about how we're quote the gold standard. And then what happens,
Speaker 1: Colorado GOP discovers she's posted online. Her office has posted
Speaker 1: online passwords, passwords, important passwords to our election systems. And
Speaker 1: so we're talking about that breaking news this afternoon and
Speaker 1: what needs to happen next. Heidi Ganaal from Rocky Mountain Voice,
Speaker 1: who's done some very important reporting on election integrity related issues,
Speaker 1: joins us to say, Hey, at this point, Hedi says,
Speaker 1: we need to hand count the ballots, because how can
Speaker 1: we have enough confidence in the security of the system
Speaker 1: at this point given this revelation and some other things
Speaker 1: Heidie's reported on. And so my point is, Hey, my
Speaker 1: gut tells me there's probably no criminal conduct here, but
Speaker 1: I can't be sure. I think for the sake of
Speaker 1: public confidence we've all seen, right, especially over the last
Speaker 1: four years, sake of public confidence in the system, which
Speaker 1: translates into the willingness of public to vote, you have
Speaker 1: to be perfect when it comes to this stuff. So
Speaker 1: we need an outside prosecutor, high level prosecutor, independent prosecutor
Speaker 1: with forensic experts who can do a full report getting
Speaker 1: to the bottom of this. And my gut tells me
Speaker 1: won't find any criminal conduct, won't find any intent, but
Speaker 1: we'll probably find a shocking, stunning, dangerous level of recklessness.
Speaker 1: But we need to know whatever the truth is. We
Speaker 1: need to know it. It cannot just be covered up
Speaker 1: here for political reasons on the left. Some great reporting
Speaker 1: by Kyle Clark, and then we'll go to our fiery
Speaker 1: phone lines. Kyle Clark has reported on this that in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Griswold removed then Masa County Clerk Tina
Speaker 1: Peters from her role supervising elections after a leak of
Speaker 1: Masa County's BIOS passwords that's Bios BIOS passwords. Peters was
Speaker 1: recently sentenced to nine years for her role in breach
Speaker 1: of her county's voting systems. Clark further reports when the
Speaker 1: BIOS passwords were leaked in Masa County, Griswold called it,
Speaker 1: quote a serious breach of voting system security protocols, and
Speaker 1: Clark then quotes a release from the Secretary of State's
Speaker 1: office back at that time. The posted images depict the
Speaker 1: BIOS passwords specific to the individual hardware stations of the
Speaker 1: Mesa County's voting system. The public disclosure of the BIOS
Speaker 1: passwords for one or more components a Mesa County's voting
Speaker 1: system alone constitutes a serious breach of voting system security protocols. Well,
Speaker 1: if the release of the BIOS passwords at that point
Speaker 1: in time constituted a serious breach alone, without regard to
Speaker 1: any other passwords, any other layers of security, well, then
Speaker 1: the same must be true here, right, But of course
Speaker 1: you have Griswold's office now trying to downplay it, say
Speaker 1: another multiple layers of security. I don't doubt any of
Speaker 1: that's true. But if back when they were trying to
Speaker 1: nail Tina Peters they says no alone, these bios passwords
Speaker 1: are a serious breach, then they must be here as well.
Speaker 1: Let's go to our fiery phone lines. I'll get to text. Also,
Speaker 1: we'll start in Larimer County with Richard. You're on the
Speaker 1: dan kaplash.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Well, Hi Dan, Yeah, I appreciate you taking my call. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just voted today, and I'm having some flashbacks from
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. The same thing happened back with that election
Speaker 2: as far as my mail in ballot.
Speaker 1: What happened with your mail in ballot in twenty Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, I live out in rural Larimer County, and
Speaker 2: I never got a mail in ballot, so I called
Speaker 2: in and asked for a replacement. Never got that one. Fine,
Speaker 2: So I went in and I voted in person. And
Speaker 2: you know at the administrative building there used to be
Speaker 2: the courthouse, and anyway, while I was there, I went
Speaker 2: to the clerk and Recorder's office and just on a lark,
Speaker 2: asked them to pull up my mail in ballot and
Speaker 2: see if they'd received it, and sure enough they had
Speaker 2: received it and it had been counted.
Speaker 1: Well, then they allowed you to vote as well.
Speaker 2: They allowed me to vote as well.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, yeah, there's no I can't figure out the
Speaker 1: explanation for that.
Speaker 2: Well, what they told me, quote was that it was
Speaker 2: a known, widespread statewide issue and that was supposed to.
Speaker 1: Well and it should not have Richard, thank you for
Speaker 1: that call.
Speaker 3: It was easy to vote in Colorado. Dan. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's becoming real clear now right is we've known for
Speaker 1: a long time we have a hyperpartisan secretary of state,
Speaker 1: which is very unfortunate for this state because we need
Speaker 1: to have confidence in the system. And listen, as I
Speaker 1: sit here today, if I had met my house, I
Speaker 1: would bet you that we do not have any widespread
Speaker 1: corruption in Colorado elections. But that shouldn't be the standard.
Speaker 1: The standard should be none, The standard should be perfection.
Speaker 1: But we've got this hyperpartisan secretary of state who buy
Speaker 1: her very hyper partisan political actions such as depriving the
Speaker 1: people of the state of the chance to even vote
Speaker 1: for the leading presidential candidate. And Donald Trump Yeah, just
Speaker 1: undermines confidence and election integrity. I believe because you look
Speaker 1: at her and say do you trust her individually? And
Speaker 1: you know who would say yes? At least what Republican
Speaker 1: would say yes to that. Now again, in terms of
Speaker 1: the system itself, I have no evidence based reason to
Speaker 1: believe that there's widespread fraud. But these bizarre, preposterous claims
Speaker 1: from her that were the gold standard. Give me a break.
Speaker 1: And Heidi Ganals talked about some I think important facts
Speaker 1: this revelation today, great work by Colorado GOP that you
Speaker 1: had all these passwords posted online. No, I mean it's
Speaker 1: a hyper partisan it's a hyper partisan pr campaign bye
Speaker 1: by Jenna Griswold, that we are somehow quote the gold standard.
Speaker 1: If this is the gold standard, then the whole country's
Speaker 1: very serious trouble. Texter says Dan, I nominate George Brockler
Speaker 1: to invest investigate the Colorado voting scandal on eleven, six,
Speaker 1: twenty four. You know, I'll text George during the breaks
Speaker 1: if he wants to pop on to talk about this, Dan,
Speaker 1: how does one inadvertently post passwords online? Great question. That's
Speaker 1: why we need an independent prosecutor. Not that I believe
Speaker 1: crimes have been committed, I would guess not. But we
Speaker 1: need an independent prosecutor using forensic experts to get us
Speaker 1: the full, unadulterated not a politically whitewashed version, full unadulterated truth,
Speaker 1: so we can make sure this never happens again.
Speaker 3: There's two things, and I think it was on Dan
Speaker 3: Bongino's program today, Dan an election expert that was quoted
Speaker 3: as saying, there's two things that need to happen with elections. One,
Speaker 3: they must be free and fair, but they also must
Speaker 3: be perceived to be free and fair. And Dan, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I don't trust Jenna Griswold as far as I can
Speaker 3: throw her. She's corrupt, she's an she's some combination of
Speaker 3: the two. This is ridiculous. We're a joke. And I
Speaker 3: want to go back to paper ballots day of election
Speaker 3: day voting. This all mail in system doesn't work. And
Speaker 3: now we're going to add ranked choice voting to this crap.
Speaker 3: I just go back to voting in Michigan, where we
Speaker 3: didn't have this and you had to specifically request an
Speaker 3: absentee ballot. They weren't just sent out willy nilly. And
Speaker 3: we see what this leads to Ever since this has
Speaker 3: been implemented, Dan, all mail in voting, Republicans have tanked,
Speaker 3: Democrats have dominated. I don't think that's a coincidence.
Speaker 1: Well, there can be an innocent explanation also, right, which
Speaker 1: is Republicans have an easier time getting their voters to
Speaker 1: the polls and Democrats do. So you could have a
Speaker 1: system with no corruption, no fraud, no cheating, and mail
Speaker 1: in balloting is still going to be an advantage to Democrats. Right,
Speaker 1: But listen to the point here is and it goes
Speaker 1: to a text we have, right, Ryan goes to a text, Dan,
Speaker 1: why did you say Colorado's election system is the gold standard?
Speaker 1: So derisively? You and de Quadams have praised our election
Speaker 1: and says Christine, which is it? No, that's a false
Speaker 1: dichotomy there, my friend. What I have said repeatedly, and
Speaker 1: I stand by as we sait here today, is I
Speaker 1: have never seen any evidence that we have a level
Speaker 1: of fraud in Colorado that would change the outcomes of
Speaker 1: these races we're looking at. Does that mean that we
Speaker 1: should tolerate any fraud?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: And That's what I've always said. So I think we're
Speaker 1: in a situation now where it is crystal clear that
Speaker 1: we do not have the quote gold standard or anywhere
Speaker 1: close to it. We have some real problems. They need
Speaker 1: to be cleaned up, and you can't let the left
Speaker 1: intimidate people from pointing out the problems and demanding they
Speaker 1: be cleaned up. That's where we're at right now. But
Speaker 1: there's a difference between that and saying, hey, there's evidence
Speaker 1: we have enough fraud to be changing the outcome of
Speaker 1: these elections. I think the reason the GOP is losing
Speaker 1: elections in this state right now is as other causes
Speaker 1: that we need to fix for the sake of the state.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we can walk in chew
Speaker 1: gum at the same time and make sure we get
Speaker 1: to the truth about the flaws in the Colorado voting
Speaker 1: system and fix it. Eight five five for zero five
Speaker 1: eight two five five the number.
Speaker 3: Get back to our.
Speaker 1: Text phone lines and some hot sound at the day
Speaker 1: when it comes to polling, because you know, these lefty
Speaker 1: heads exploding, the panic on the left. It's only going
Speaker 1: to get worse and more fun as Trump continues to
Speaker 1: do and it's you know, incremental, but you'll take anything
Speaker 1: you can get right now, better and better in the polls.
Speaker 1: You're on the Dan Caplis.
Speaker 3: Show and now back to the Dankaplis Show podcast, Harry CNN.
Speaker 5: That's all we hear about, Oh, Donald Trump's going to
Speaker 5: outperformance polls. So I went back and checked out whether
Speaker 5: or not a party outran the polls three presidential election
Speaker 5: cycles in a row, and the key battleground states.
Speaker 3: It's never happened.
Speaker 5: It's never happened zero times, zero times since nineteen hundred.
Speaker 3: So if the polls are.
Speaker 5: Going to underestimate Donald Trump once again, that would be
Speaker 5: historically unprecedented. Now, maybe you want to make the argument
Speaker 5: that Donald Trump himself.
Speaker 3: Is historically unprecedented.
Speaker 5: But what normally happens is the posters catch on, hey,
Speaker 5: we're underestimating, We're not taking into account some part of
Speaker 5: the electorate. They make adjustments, and I think that helps
Speaker 5: to explain why we have never seen that the same
Speaker 5: party has been underestimated three times in a row in
Speaker 5: presidential elections, at least of the last fifteen year.
Speaker 1: I was soprised surprised to hear this from Harriet, and
Speaker 1: because he has been on CNN a pretty straight shooter
Speaker 1: on this, and I think for political reasons and that
Speaker 1: is just you know, trying to rally, trying to rally
Speaker 1: the left and say, well, wait a second, no, Trump
Speaker 1: can really win this thing. And that's why I think
Speaker 1: all along he's been emphasizing, you know, how well Trump
Speaker 1: has been doing in the polls. I think now though,
Speaker 1: I think now they're at a point and he's still
Speaker 1: politically motivated. I like watching his stuff. He's a good entertainer,
Speaker 1: but still politically motivated. Because now he's at the point
Speaker 1: where way does that caond? And the left has to
Speaker 1: be really concerned about some of their people not voting
Speaker 1: because they're so discouraged because they think Trump has this one.
Speaker 1: So I think now he's on this kick of oh no, no, no, wait,
Speaker 1: wait a second, these poles, all this result, the history
Speaker 1: of it that that's not telling us Trump has this
Speaker 1: locked up. So it's real nice to see the left
Speaker 1: now at the point where they're really worried that their
Speaker 1: voters are going to be discouraged. But the bottom line
Speaker 1: point on all of this is, let's assume Ryan, all
Speaker 1: these poles are completely accurate, right, Let's assume they are
Speaker 1: not undersampling Trump, which they almost certainly are. Give me
Speaker 1: a break when you come out and your whole point
Speaker 1: is a party, and Kamala Harris is about to go
Speaker 1: out on the mall once again in DC and say
Speaker 1: Trump and all of his supporters are Nazis. Right, that's
Speaker 1: the clear implication if you, as a party, and this
Speaker 1: goes back now a year and a half, two years,
Speaker 1: if you as a party are labeling the people who
Speaker 1: support Donald Trump as Nazis and threats to democracy. You
Speaker 1: don't think that's going to suppress the number of people
Speaker 1: who tell pollsters they want to support Trump. But here's
Speaker 1: my point. Let me get to the key point, which
Speaker 1: is this, my friend, even assuming these poles are all
Speaker 1: correct and there's no undersampling of Trump, the difference maker
Speaker 1: is enthusiasm. It's the intensity of support for Trump versus
Speaker 1: the intensity of support for Harris. Now you can say
Speaker 1: there's another element of intensity of opposition to Trump, and
Speaker 1: you'd be correct. But now we can see in these
Speaker 1: same polls, and for darn good reason, there is an
Speaker 1: equal intensity of opposition to Harris. And so that's why
Speaker 1: I believe Trump's going to win, and it's likely to
Speaker 1: be a bigger margin than people expect.
Speaker 3: You said the keyword, I'm not even sure you're focusing.
Speaker 4: On of it.
Speaker 3: To me, that'd be onet brilliance suppress. I think Harry
Speaker 3: Enton's got his head in the clouds. I love him.
Speaker 3: I think he's a good guy. He's funny, he's entertaining,
Speaker 3: and he's usually right. But you got to look at
Speaker 3: this jaundiced. I logically, do these pollsters want to be right?
Speaker 3: Are these poles that are meant to refort what's actually
Speaker 3: happening out there or to push people in a certain direction.
Speaker 3: Rush Limbaugh always theorized it was the latter, and especially
Speaker 3: in the case of Donald Trump, who is a unique
Speaker 3: creature who the press and the media and everybody, I
Speaker 3: would think in most of these polls hates and doesn't
Speaker 3: want to win, and therefore wants to give some basis
Speaker 3: of hope to Harris voters, and they don't want to
Speaker 3: reflect the real number. For instance, Dan, I've got numbers,
Speaker 3: I've got receipts on this morning Consult poll recently released
Speaker 3: showing Harris with a plus three lead a nationally fifty
Speaker 3: to forty seven. However, that poll Dan showed Harris leading
Speaker 3: with men. There is no way in hell, Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: is leading with men. That is fake news, that is false,
Speaker 3: that is phony, that goes to sampling, that goes to
Speaker 3: biasing these polls in a way that does not reflect
Speaker 3: like a mirror, but is shining like a light, and
Speaker 3: is trying to be a push poll to give people
Speaker 3: that want to support Harris hope and reason to show
Speaker 3: up and vote for and not get discovered.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, And it's like the Washington Post poll on Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: the last poll before the twenty twenty race, that showed
Speaker 1: Biden up seventeen. Right, any won by a handful of votes,
Speaker 1: and that probably costs Trump Wisconsin because you see Biden's
Speaker 1: up seventeen, You're going to have some Republicans or Trump
Speaker 1: supporters who don't show up. All I'm saying is is
Speaker 1: I've given you the reasons why I'm so optimistic now
Speaker 1: about a Trump victory. Could it go the other way, Sure,
Speaker 1: but I think far more likely if there's going to
Speaker 1: be a surprise, it will be the size of Trump's win,
Speaker 1: which excites me because the bigger the margin of victory
Speaker 1: for Trump, that then the better the chance we have
Speaker 1: to start uniting this country moving at least in the
Speaker 1: direction of unity. God Left laugh at the CNN headline,
Speaker 1: and we'll bring you some of this sound as it
Speaker 1: happens minutes away major Harris speech. Up to fifty two
Speaker 1: thousand people expected anytime they use that up to language, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that could be anywhere between zero and fifty two thousand.
Speaker 1: But since this is her major closing argument, right and
Speaker 1: it's on the mall, it's in friendly DC, when they
Speaker 1: have to use up to fifty two thousand language, that's
Speaker 1: not a good sign for her, right because if you
Speaker 1: have that kind of support for her out there right now,
Speaker 1: if you had that kind of intensity along with the
Speaker 1: political organization and everything that they're doing, and she has
Speaker 1: all the money in the world, right, they've been printing money,
Speaker 1: you would have a lot more than fifty thousand people there.
Speaker 3: And it's in d C. What is she doing? And
Speaker 3: two more factors. I've seen this doubly source and reported
Speaker 3: Dan that the Kearras campaign is close. It as is
Speaker 3: in North Carolina, and I think she's got a real chance,
Speaker 3: a better chance than she should there. They're pulling AD
Speaker 3: dollars out of there and putting them into Virginia. Another
Speaker 3: fact on the campaign trail right now, Donald Trump is
Speaker 3: planning a rally in Albuquerque, New Mexico. This state should
Speaker 3: not be in play, apparently according to Trump's internal polling.
Speaker 3: It is. So you look at Virginia, you look at
Speaker 3: New Mexico, you could see where this election is heading
Speaker 3: based on where the footsteps are going from either the
Speaker 3: Harris campaign or the Trump campaign.
Speaker 1: And the other thing that's been hilarious to watch is
Speaker 1: as maddening as it is to me that they let
Speaker 1: that blank hole so called comedian on the stage Sunday
Speaker 1: and he caused the harm he did. Is the left
Speaker 1: now climbing onto all this will save us with Latinos.
Speaker 1: It just goes to show they don't understand Latinos. They
Speaker 1: don't understand what's driving the Latino vote. They don't understand faith.
Speaker 1: The New York Times admitted that the day after the
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election, they don't understand faith. And you look
Speaker 1: at the Latino community, and you look at how vibrant
Speaker 1: and active Latinos are, for example, in the Catholic community,
Speaker 1: and you really think that people who have decided no
Speaker 1: that they are going to support Donald Trump because he's
Speaker 1: been a champion for life and he's been a champion
Speaker 1: for family, that all of a sudden, now they're going
Speaker 1: to abandon that and vote for this abortion worshiping you know,
Speaker 1: up to the moment of birth Democratic Party because some
Speaker 1: stupid comedians said some horrible joke. They just don't understand.
Speaker 1: They don't understand Latinos, they don't understand working people, they
Speaker 1: don't understand other people of faith, and that's good. The
Speaker 1: longer they don't understand it, the more likely they are
Speaker 1: to lose. And we like that. You're on the Dan
Speaker 1: Capla ship.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 6: Do you think you just fell out of a coconut tree?
Speaker 5: You exists in the context.
Speaker 3: Of all in which you live and what came before you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a surprise that Donald Trump is highly likely
Speaker 1: to be declared the winner a week from tonight. And
Speaker 1: I know we're expecting returns to take longer, and it's
Speaker 1: smart to expect them to take longer. I just think
Speaker 1: that on this trend line, for all the obvious reasons,
Speaker 1: I think President Trump is going to win, and win
Speaker 1: bigger than people expect. Right now. We will find out together,
Speaker 1: by the way, Kamala Harris delivering quote closing argument of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election on the mall in DC. Will
Speaker 1: pop into that live in a bit. What a shock
Speaker 1: Trump equals bad man. But how remarkable and how politically
Speaker 1: stupid I think for your closing remark in a campaign
Speaker 1: where people are telling focus groups everywhere we don't know
Speaker 1: enough about her that instead of talking more about you
Speaker 1: and what you're going to do. Instead another opportunity to
Speaker 1: tell people that Trump is Hitler when wait a second,
Speaker 1: Trump was president and he didn't act like Hitler and
Speaker 1: everybody knows that. But knock yourself out, Kamala. I want
Speaker 1: to go to the VIP line and welcome doctor Tom
Speaker 1: Prell back to the Dan Kaplis Show. And doctor has
Speaker 1: been kind enough to join us before. And the words
Speaker 1: that he has to share, actually the facts he has
Speaker 1: to share, I think are so penetrating on this issue
Speaker 1: of Amendments seventy nine, which would put in the state
Speaker 1: constitution the so called right to kill healthy maybe from
Speaker 1: a healthy mother at full term taxpayers have to pay
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 3: All sorts of.
Speaker 1: Other problems with seventy nine. But doctor Prell can speak
Speaker 1: from a medical standpoint as to the reality of what
Speaker 1: the left wants to put in the Colorado constitution. This
Speaker 1: so called right to kill a baby at nine months,
Speaker 1: to kill a baby late term, healthy baby, healthy mother. Doctor,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the Dan Kapli Show.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me and doctor I just.
Speaker 1: Want to give the warning to folks in the audience,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate your willingness to speak this truth, this
Speaker 1: factual truth, because I'm sure it's upsetting to you to
Speaker 1: have to relay this. But the truth doctor Prell is
Speaker 1: about to tell from a medical standpoint about late term
Speaker 1: abortion and what it is that the left wants to
Speaker 1: enshrine in our constitution is a truth that needs to
Speaker 1: be heard. But if you have young kids in the car,
Speaker 1: other folks, heck, anybody right, this is so horrific and
Speaker 1: so gruesome. Fact, we have to give a warning before
Speaker 1: the doctor tells the truth about what late term abortion involves.
Speaker 1: Just proves it should not be in our constitution. But doctor,
Speaker 1: with that warning, would you please share with people the
Speaker 1: reality of what happens in late term abortion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, mostly in Colorado. Don't realize that late abortions after
Speaker 4: the lower limited field viability when the baby could survive
Speaker 4: it born prematurely are very common in Colorado. There's approximately
Speaker 4: five hundred that occur each year, and which is about
Speaker 4: three point two to three point four percent of all
Speaker 4: the abortions. That's probably very conservative estimate based on figures
Speaker 4: from Gutmacher, which surveys all the abortion clinics in Colorado,
Speaker 4: and the abortion clcs are more compliant with their surveys.
Speaker 4: But the reil it is common, and what people don't
Speaker 4: realize is that most of these are occurring on healthy
Speaker 4: babies in healthy women. And the manner in which it
Speaker 4: happens is particularly gruesome and really challenges the people of
Speaker 4: Colado in a way that a few other things can.
Speaker 4: And it appeals to you how compassionate and how human
Speaker 4: are we and to let late abortions occur. And let
Speaker 4: me tell you a little bit about how it happens.
Speaker 4: In the second trimester, the most common procedure is called
Speaker 4: the D and E dilation and evacuation, in which the
Speaker 4: cervix is dilated with the instrument and then a four
Speaker 4: steps like device is inserted through the cervix into the
Speaker 4: uterse and grabs the first thing it can, which is
Speaker 4: usually an appendage armor leg, and the abortion provider just
Speaker 4: pulls until it just articulates or just members the baby,
Speaker 4: and the baby dies from this moment, you know, inreinates,
Speaker 4: and you can imagine how painful it will be. We
Speaker 4: used to think that these babies didn't experience pain until,
Speaker 4: you know, the third trimester, but science since the early
Speaker 4: two thousands have demonstrated that as early as twelve weeks
Speaker 4: a fetus can respond to pain, and we know by
Speaker 4: observing premis as early as twenty two weeks and even
Speaker 4: twenty one weeks now in some centers in the country,
Speaker 4: we've seen that they experience pain in every way that
Speaker 4: we do. They grimace, they cry, they they withdraw, and
Speaker 4: you know, it's really hard to imagine what it would
Speaker 4: feel like for that fetus to be in utero and
Speaker 4: to experience the dismemberment, which represents a DNI abortion. You know,
Speaker 4: in the third trimester, the baby's just too big to
Speaker 4: pull up heart. And so what they do is they
Speaker 4: dilate the cervix over several days, and on the first
Speaker 4: day they inject typically a drug called the Jockson, which
Speaker 4: slows the heart but does not stop the heart. It
Speaker 4: slows the heart and as the heart slows, acid builds
Speaker 4: up in the blood, and the acid further slows the
Speaker 4: heart and eventually the heart stops. But this can take,
Speaker 4: depending on how it's administered, up to twenty four hours
Speaker 4: to kill the fetus. In the meantime, we know de
Speaker 4: jockson overdoses and infants, children and adults, causes you know,
Speaker 4: intense nods of vomiting, abdominal pain, delirium, and so this
Speaker 4: is not a painless death. This is an excruciating, anguishing
Speaker 4: death that occurs after the injection and five percent of
Speaker 4: the time hasn't worked the first time and they have
Speaker 4: to do the whole process again. So you know, if
Speaker 4: this was happening in any situation where animals while the
Speaker 4: young animal, we would be in a corporate but for
Speaker 4: some reason, with regards to abortion, we seem to be
Speaker 4: immune to the details of what's happening.
Speaker 3: Doctor Tom prowe after the babies.
Speaker 4: After the in the search, mister off the babies, after
Speaker 4: it's killed, then it's extracted and sometimes that damage is
Speaker 4: the appendages as well, but occasionally can be intact. So anyway,
Speaker 4: that's the that's the grim reality of late abortion here
Speaker 4: in Colorado.
Speaker 1: Well, and thank you for coming on to tell people
Speaker 1: the truth about that, because doctor I have to believe
Speaker 1: that across that the political spectrum, including a lot of
Speaker 1: people who would disagree with me on abortion policy and
Speaker 1: want there to be legal abortion, there are still going
Speaker 1: to be many people who say, no, that that is
Speaker 1: a bridge way too far. What we cannot put something
Speaker 1: like that in our constitution.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in my experience, we've been I'm also you know,
Speaker 4: President Democrats for Life, and we've been going downtown Boulder
Speaker 4: and Denver in the most progressive part of our cities
Speaker 4: and distributing brochures that provide this kind of information not
Speaker 4: only about late abortion, but elimination of printal notification, the
Speaker 4: inability to provide pudent health and safety regulations pertaining to
Speaker 4: second and third semester abortion clinics. And when I give
Speaker 4: that distribute those brochures people, you know, some people to me,
Speaker 4: I'm a Democrat, I'm going to vote. Of course, I'm
Speaker 4: going to vote to put this in the constitution. Then
Speaker 4: I mentioned these areas and they recoil, and these are
Speaker 4: people who are pro choice, but they realize that this
Speaker 4: is a step too far right.
Speaker 1: And we had a great guest on yesterday, Gennessee Jensen,
Speaker 1: who was talking about how seventy nine amendments seventy nine
Speaker 1: helps human traffickers, because human traffickers then are able to
Speaker 1: get abortions for these girls who they've enslaved as sex slaves,
Speaker 1: and they're trafficking, able to get abortions without the kind
Speaker 1: of incree, without a duty to rapport, a duty to
Speaker 1: require in choir that's more likely to be present if
Speaker 1: there can be more regulation in place, But under seventy nine,
Speaker 1: it's going to be very, very hard for any type
Speaker 1: of regulation to be put on this mass killing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the American College of Status and Gynecology is on
Speaker 4: the record saying that parental involvement is an impediment to
Speaker 4: abortion access. And so if seven Night passes, it's going
Speaker 4: to either pernal notification will be struck down by the
Speaker 4: courts or the legislature will doublify the existing prontal notification law.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's a tragedy, not only because it'll
Speaker 4: enable traffickers, but can you imagine, you know, your fright
Speaker 4: frightened fifteen year old daughter, you know, experience, you know,
Speaker 4: having an unplanned pregnancy and afraid, even though she is
Speaker 4: living parents, afraid to tell her parents, and then being
Speaker 4: more influenced by peers or counselors or other people, and
Speaker 4: then having a complication the parents aren't aware of until
Speaker 4: it could be a life threatening complications. It's just unimaginable.
Speaker 1: It really is. And again to enshrine this kind of
Speaker 1: barbarity in our constitution. We're just a better people than that.
Speaker 1: And thank you for your courage and being Democrats for
Speaker 1: Life and taking that message. My belief is that there
Speaker 1: are a lot of Democrats for Life and a lot
Speaker 1: who just don't feel comfortable speaking up about it. So
Speaker 1: thank you for being proNT and center, particularly as an MD,
Speaker 1: when you can speak to the reality of late term abortion. Yeah, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: thank you, my friend, sure appreciate it.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, thank.
Speaker 1: You, thank you. That's doctor Tom Prell. He is a
Speaker 1: president of Democrats for Life. So when we go back,
Speaker 1: if you just joined us, thank you. I want to
Speaker 1: update you on this very important story Colorado GOP broke it.
Speaker 1: Did a great job with that. Kyle Clark has done
Speaker 1: excellent work on KUSA about the Colorado Secretary of State
Speaker 1: so called gold standard hundreds of passwords for our election
Speaker 1: system reportedly published online. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. Look,
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 7: There for about six hours yesterday. First thing I've got
Speaker 7: to say, Carl B. Sen Madison Square Garden was packed.
Speaker 7: People waited hours to get in. They sat through hour
Speaker 7: after hour of this rally. They were fervent in their
Speaker 7: devotion to all things Trump.
Speaker 3: Trump has created a movement. There is no doubt.
Speaker 7: I cannot think of another Republican figure of my lifetime
Speaker 7: who could have come into a democratic city like New
Speaker 7: York and put together anything like that.
Speaker 3: Amen.
Speaker 1: And I think this is across the country right now.
Speaker 1: So Kamala Harris, it's her big closing argument tonight on
Speaker 1: the mall. Fascinating to me that she decides to focus
Speaker 1: not on the voters, not on answering these key questions
Speaker 1: about herself the voters have said over and over they
Speaker 1: need answered, but instead attacking Trump. Oh yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that nobody remembers anything about January sixth, Right, and nobody
Speaker 1: remembers wait a second, Democrats, so they say Trump's hitler,
Speaker 1: this and that. That's all they've been talking about. So
Speaker 1: to use this this valuable time and to use this
Speaker 1: platform tonight to just do that over again I think
Speaker 1: it goes to my theory that there's a greater chance
Speaker 1: now that she knows she's likely to lose, and she's
Speaker 1: trying to position herself for her next career after politics,
Speaker 1: certainly not being president, right, and that she's just using
Speaker 1: it for those kind of purposes and gratiate herself with
Speaker 1: the people who have the ability to give you a
Speaker 1: TV show, book deals be in the high levels of society.
Speaker 1: And I put that in quotes, etc. Because I don't
Speaker 1: think this makes sense right now as a political strategy.
Speaker 3: Eight five for zero five A two five five.
Speaker 1: If you're just joining us, thank you. Very big story
Speaker 1: breaking today, great work by the Colorado GOP and really
Speaker 1: good reporting by Kyle Clark on this and that is
Speaker 1: or Secretary of State Jenna Griswold, right. She likes to
Speaker 1: brag about how her office is the gold standard for
Speaker 1: the nation. Well, I think it's some other substance standard
Speaker 1: now because in addition to other reporting recently, we get
Speaker 1: this today and again Klera d R GFP broke the
Speaker 1: story that apparently the reporting is six hundred passwords to
Speaker 1: our sensitive election, highly secret election systems posted online by
Speaker 1: the Colorado Secretary of State's office, and here's part of
Speaker 1: the clerk commentary. In twenty twenty one, Griswold's office said
Speaker 1: the disclosure of Mesa County's voting system passwords quote alone,
Speaker 1: was a serious breach of voting system security protocols. Griswold
Speaker 1: told me today that her office's leak of passwords was
Speaker 1: not a serious breach. Yeah, so you see what's going
Speaker 1: on there. We need an independent investigation. We need very
Speaker 1: high powered, so involved a prosecutor, very high powered prosecutor,
Speaker 1: outside special prosecutor, with all of the tools made available,
Speaker 1: including forensic experts, to get to the bottom of this,
Speaker 1: what really happened, make the whole truth known to the public,
Speaker 1: and in a hurry. I'm not suggesting anybody committed any crimes.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that the public needs to have confidence
Speaker 1: in the system. The full truth needs to be told.
Speaker 1: There can't be the perception of a political whitewash by
Speaker 1: having a political ally do the investigation. Let's go to
Speaker 1: Kevin in Boulder, Colorado. You're on the Dan Kapli Show.
Speaker 1: Welcome Kevin.
Speaker 6: I'd like to know what party she's with, But you know,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of really good Christian films with unique
Speaker 6: stories and Hollywood production standards, with good directing and good acting.
Speaker 6: And I played this movie recently, a true story about
Speaker 6: a high school girl who got a job in an
Speaker 6: abortion clinic in her hometown.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 6: She stayed with it for a few years, and then
Speaker 6: eventually she fought against it after she became director, and
Speaker 6: she got it closed down. But in one of the
Speaker 6: part one of the aspects of the story is that
Speaker 6: after they have brought the baby, they have to go
Speaker 6: into the counting room with it and put the parts
Speaker 6: together to make sure they're all there. And you know,
Speaker 6: a Bible prophecy says in the Last Days, child sacrifice
Speaker 6: will be a major factor of American life.
Speaker 1: Kevin appreciate the call on that. Trying to get everybody in,
Speaker 1: including Rosiel, who's been kind enough to hold for about
Speaker 1: three days. Now, Rosiel, you're on the dan Kaplas.
Speaker 2: She'll welcome again.
Speaker 8: I'm just going to make this really quick. I think
Speaker 8: there's a whole story with Jennicker's vote goes way beyond
Speaker 8: her pay grid because she is not that smart to
Speaker 8: orchestrate such abomination. What's our electoral process?
Speaker 1: Rosie Ill appreciate the call, thank you. Hey, We're going
Speaker 1: to be all over this story tomorrow as we get
Speaker 1: more information. And the very interesting important thing to watch
Speaker 1: right is whether this story is now going to be buried,
Speaker 1: whether it's going to be a one day story, because
Speaker 1: we know if this was a Republican secretary of state,
Speaker 1: this would be the story every single day until we
Speaker 1: had a full accounting, a full independent investigation. Howdigan All
Speaker 1: said earlier that hey, she says that the ballots have
Speaker 1: to be counted by hand now, because how can we
Speaker 1: have confidence in the system. So is that what you
Speaker 1: believe as well? We'll be following up on all sorts
Speaker 1: of different angles on this tomorrow, including of course the
Speaker 1: presidential right not less than.
Speaker 3: A week away.
Speaker 1: As of tomorrow, we'll have all the latest polling, early
Speaker 1: data returns, etc. And again, think about how exciting this
Speaker 1: stretch run is going to be.
Speaker 3: Can't wait.
Speaker 1: Ryan, Thank you so much, Alexa, thanks for all your help.
Speaker 1: Join us tomorrow on the Dan Kapla Show.