WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:07.120 It's time for Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:14.640 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. All right, 3 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:16.920 our number two here on a hump day, thanks for 4 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:18.960 hanging out with us. Here on Sports Talk seven ninety 5 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:21.760 it is Coffee and Company, fuel by Thornton's Nick Coffee, 6 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:24.800 the company man, mister John all on alongside, taking you 7 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:28.480 up until six o'clock. Hopefully everybody is having a good day. 8 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:32.479 I'm sure there are some that are having really good days, 9 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:35.119 days where they're you know, a day where they feel 10 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:37.240 like they're you know, in celebratory mode. And then there's 11 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:41.320 some that are probably really bummed and probably surprised. I 12 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:43.359 guess maybe they didn't they didn't see it playing out 13 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:46.560 the way that it did. But yeah, I'm just glad 14 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:50.439 that it's over. And clearly there's still going to be 15 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:54.039 some lingering things that they take place throughout the process 16 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:56.119 when you do, in fact, you know, put a new 17 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:58.399 president in office. But I don't know. Am I crazy 18 00:00:58.399 --> 00:00:59.759 to think that maybe the process will be a little 19 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:02.439 quick because this is a guy that you know, has 20 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:04.879 been president before, which makes the whole thing kind of weird, 21 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:08.120 But yeah, I could as the day went on yesterday, 22 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:10.760 not even like even when I'm not around people, I 23 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:16.040 could I could just feel tension and just people a 24 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:18.840 little bit uneasy. In fact, I know some people who 25 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:22.120 just you know, they didn't want to consume any of it, 26 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:25.200 so they just tried their best to distract themselves from it. 27 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:26.879 And if that's how you know that, if that worked 28 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:30.159 for you, then you know, good for you. All right, 29 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:33.319 let's bring him in. He is Zach Garnett of FootballScoop 30 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:35.560 dot com. He joins us each week to talk some 31 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:39.040 some college football before we get into the first look 32 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:42.680 at the college football playoff ranking. Zach, So, I was 33 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:45.040 a little surprised, and maybe it's just because I'm an idiot, 34 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:48.920 but they gave us rankings and then a bracket. However, 35 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.480 the rankings it isn't the exact bracket because of how 36 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:54.599 it's laid out, Like, could they have done that better? 37 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:56.599 Would it? Would it have been weird to give us 38 00:01:56.680 --> 00:02:00.400 the bracket and then rank everybody else after that that's 39 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:01.560 still in the top twenty five? 40 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:06.359 Uh yeah, I think so, to be honest with you, 41 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:12.280 I did. I was following via Twitter last night, so I. 42 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:13.479 Was there something else going on other than the college 43 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:14.479 football playoff rings. 44 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:18.360 Yeah, so I actually I had nothing to do with that, 45 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:23.199 but anyways, Yeah, I don't think you were alone in 46 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.919 being confused. And how ESPN presented. 47 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:27.960 That, Yeah, I mean, I don't know, but I just 48 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:29.919 thought it was it could have been like because if 49 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:31.919 you were wanting to bring you know, people into college 50 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:34.719 football because of a of a new bracket and all 51 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:37.159 the suspense, I feel like, you know, it made sense 52 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:38.680 once you give it some thought. But I was like, 53 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:40.199 wait a second, how could this work because you can't 54 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:41.719 have two Big ten teams and you know, the top 55 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:42.879 four seeds. 56 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:46.479 Yeah. No, I think that there's been a lot of 57 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.680 public education about how this is going to work, and 58 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:54.159 they're continuing. There needs to be more, and I'm sure 59 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:56.479 on selection Sunday there will be a lot of people 60 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:58.879 still confused about how this thing is gonna work. So 61 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:01.919 it's a job of all of us really to educate 62 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:03.319 the public on how this is gonna work. 63 00:03:03.919 --> 00:03:08.599 Well, I'm hopeful that the twelve team playoff ends up. 64 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:11.000 You know, obviously, if you've got a team that you're 65 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:13.080 a big fan of. Obviously, if your team's alive and 66 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.280 they're in the race, like Obviously, that's gonna be a 67 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:17.000 fun thing for you, and it'll be a heartbreaker if 68 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:18.919 you don't end up getting in. But I think, just 69 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:22.039 from the average college football fan out there, I'm starting 70 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:25.000 to wonder if this thing is couldn't meet the hype 71 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:27.080 that's there, because I feel like when you think of 72 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:30.759 home games in college football that are part of the 73 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:34.680 new college football Playoff, you actually have a legitimate bracket now, Like, 74 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:36.919 I feel like this is going to be something that 75 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:38.960 everybody thinks, Man, they should have done this from the jump. 76 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.680 Twelve teams makes it so much more exciting. I mean, 77 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:43.000 I don't know if you're hearing the same thing or 78 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:44.319 if you feel the same thing, but I think this 79 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:45.120 is gonna be awesome. 80 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:46.719 Yeah. 81 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:49.800 And I think I think, combined with two other topics 82 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:52.280 that are divisive and no one really wants to give 83 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.919 them credit for, I think the poral in NIL, combined 84 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:58.000 with the twelve team playoffs have all kind of hit 85 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:01.120 at the perfect time to give us what's looking like 86 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:03.199 it's going to be a wide open playoff. Like for 87 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:06.879 years and years and years it was, you know, there's 88 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:09.800 only really five teams competing for four spots, and then 89 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:12.159 when the playoff was announced, it was like, well, we 90 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:14.400 know the same teams are gonna win the national championship, 91 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:18.519 but at least it'll put more teams in the conversation. 92 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:21.600 And now I don't know who's gonna win this thing. 93 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:26.759 Ohio State and Georgia are the most talented teams, but 94 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:29.120 in a lot of ways, especially in Georgia, they're winning 95 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.680 in spite of their quarterback, not because of their quarterback. 96 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:35.680 And there's not I guess, other than cam Wardon maybe 97 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:40.319 Sheder Sanders, there's not a transformational quarterback out there. And 98 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:42.879 if the right quarterback on the right team gets hot, 99 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:45.959 then that team could come from anywhere to win this thing. 100 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:48.839 You just laid out what makes this all as far 101 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:52.199 as timing really exciting that I haven't heard many people 102 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:54.439 bring up. I don't remember being this late into the 103 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:56.040 year where you get your first look at the college 104 00:04:56.079 --> 00:05:00.160 football playoff rankings and nobody really having a clue who, 105 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:03.399 in fact, this national championship is to lose, if you 106 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:05.399 know what I'm saying. And for I feel like for 107 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:07.720 well over a decade, like you have a good idea 108 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:10.079 at this point in the season who the two best 109 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:11.480 teams are. It's gonna come down to these two. It's 110 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:13.199 gonna come down to these three or maybe hey, it's 111 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:15.639 just this team and if they somehow mess up, you know, 112 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.720 if they don't mess up, then then they're gonna win it. 113 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:19.759 I think it's you're right. I mean, I don't remember 114 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:20.839 what it's been this wide open. 115 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:25.120 Yeah, I think Ohio State and Georgia certainly have the 116 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.839 highest ceilings. You can maybe throw Texas in there as well, 117 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:32.839 although we saw Georgia at their best was much better 118 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:37.360 than Texas on that night. Oregon probably has the highest floor. 119 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:41.079 Dylan Gabriel is not the most talented quarterback that's going 120 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:44.279 to be in this field, but he plays close to 121 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:48.439 his best more often, and that offense is kind of 122 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:52.480 like starting every inning on second base, so that gives 123 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:56.920 them an advantage. But I mean, the most talented quarterbacks 124 00:05:56.920 --> 00:05:59.879 in this just in terms of raw talent are Nico. 125 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.319 I mean, if Tennessee gets hot at the right time, 126 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:06.160 making when this thing, if Lsu gets hot at the 127 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:08.439 right time, making when this thing same. I mean saying 128 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:11.519 for Texas, Miami looks like they're gonna be in a 129 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:14.240 great spot where they would have to win three games. 130 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:14.480 Instead of two. 131 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.759 To win the national championship. So it is kind of 132 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:18.600 the perfect storm. 133 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:22.720 Yeah, I mean Indiana, I mean, their schedule is what 134 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:24.879 it is. But like if Kurt Signetti just keeps beating 135 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:26.879 everybody's ass, can we say we're shocked at the end 136 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:28.759 of the year when they've got hardware. I mean, I'm 137 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:30.879 not saying I expect it, but each week it kind 138 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.279 of feels like maybe they'll have a letdown. They don't. 139 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:36.920 Yeah, everyone was kind of waiting for that to happen 140 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:42.600 this week because you're playing, You're coming off of two 141 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:44.639 emotional home games, now you're going on the road. 142 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:46.040 It just felt like the leadown game. 143 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:49.680 Yeah, and for a moment there it did. It was 144 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:51.639 ten to nothing, and then it was forty seven to ten. 145 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:54.959 And once again I repeat my talking point that if 146 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:58.160 Indiana was wearing Michigan's uniforms, they would have been ranked 147 00:06:58.240 --> 00:06:59.920 number two in the. 148 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:02.639 No doubt about it. And I don't know how anybody. 149 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:04.759 I mean, if you asked the committee that they would 150 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.040 say no, but I think every other human being would say, yeah, 151 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:09.040 there's no doubt about it. That would be that would 152 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:11.560 be the case. Speaking of the committee, if you got 153 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:15.360 one one question, you know you only had one team 154 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:17.560 you could present to them and say, tell me how 155 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:20.839 you did this, tell me what you used upstairs in 156 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:23.000 your brain to put this together? Where this team would 157 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:25.120 be ranked here, Rather it's somebody who's ranked way too 158 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:27.879 low or somebody ranked way too high. Who do you what? 159 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:29.959 What did you see last night as it was unveiled 160 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:31.759 that you just think, Okay, why the hell the hell 161 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:32.319 they come up with that? 162 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:36.600 It was pretty frustrating to see Penn State at six. 163 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:40.319 That's a program that for years has existed on a 164 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:42.759 non existent metric of the quality loss. 165 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:46.000 They continue to make you look smart, Zach. 166 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.519 Yeah, they don't win any games that matter, and yet 167 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:53.480 they're ranked number six. They're going to make the playoff 168 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:57.839 and quite possibly host a playoff game. Uh, and their 169 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:00.959 best win will probably be a Wisconsin that finishes what 170 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.519 eight and four? At best, they're not going to have 171 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:10.079 even they did beat Illinois, but I mean that's gonna 172 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:12.040 be their best win. And I know you can make 173 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:15.120 the same argument right now about Texas, but at least 174 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:17.560 Texas has the opportunity to win their way in at 175 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:21.240 Texas A and M and possibly the Big twelve, the 176 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:24.360 Big feve the SEC championship. Penn State's not making their 177 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.319 conference championship game. They're going to win with a pillowsoft 178 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.319 schedule and be rewarded for it. The other team, I 179 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:35.000 think is BYU and Warren Manuel was asked about them 180 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.559 and he said, the eye test is why they were 181 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:40.399 ninth in Miami's fourth Well, the eye test saw me 182 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:43.879 saw I. BYU went on the road at SMU, which 183 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:47.480 no one else has done. They beat the tar out 184 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:50.360 of Kansas State at home, and I know those aren't 185 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:53.320 blue blood programs. With their both top twenty teams in 186 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:56.080 the committee's own estimation, which is more than like the 187 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.600 decks five teams have in front of them combined. 188 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:02.320 I'll give word Manuel some credit because he actually at 189 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:05.480 least he's wrong, but like at least what he provided 190 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:07.799 is the reason. Like you can't like you can say 191 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:10.080 you disagree, but like he's just our I test. You 192 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:11.679 just throw the eye test out there. People. You know, 193 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:13.840 there are some times where they give an answer that 194 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:15.840 makes no sense when it comes to their you know, 195 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:18.960 being questioned about certain certain teams being ranked at certain spots. 196 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:19.879 But I'm with you BYU. 197 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:20.440 I mean. 198 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:23.720 They've they've had a I mean if BYU had a 199 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:25.679 different brand, maybe in a different conference, I think it 200 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:27.519 would look a little bit different. What do you think 201 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:29.720 of SMU. I mean, I don't want to sound like 202 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:33.080 an ACC hank here because I think, honestly, like Clemson 203 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.879 shouldn't be ranked right now. But when it comes to SMU, 204 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:37.960 I mean, their only loss is a team that the 205 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:41.000 Committee tells us is a top ten team, and they 206 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:44.519 lost to them in a close game. They beat Louisville 207 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:46.440 at Louisville, a team the committee thinks is a top 208 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:49.120 twenty two team. They beat Pitt, who's ranked eighteenth. Like, 209 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:52.039 I think SMU again they're at number thirteen, but like, 210 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:53.639 how how are they behind Boise? 211 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:57.960 Yeah? I think this is a complete team. 212 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:00.240 And I mean they didn't just beat Pitt. They beat 213 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:01.039 the dog at a pit. 214 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:05.799 Yeah, and they lost that YU game. 215 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:09.440 They made a quarterback change since then and are undefeated. 216 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:13.279 And on the one hand, the committee's in an impossible 217 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:15.879 spot because if you're going to do human rankings, there's 218 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.559 no way to rank twenty five teams in an entirely 219 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:21.960 logically consistent way. On the other hand, they just don't 220 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:24.440 think SMU is that good, largely because they're SMU. 221 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:26.840 Yeah, but they never say it, but I guarantee that's 222 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:27.440 exactly it. 223 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:32.159 Yeah, And I mean I had SMU in the top 224 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:34.960 ten on my own ballot. They weren't, you know, number 225 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:36.279 five or anything like that. I think they're eight or 226 00:10:36.360 --> 00:10:38.879 nine or something like that. But I think from what 227 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:41.279 we've seen so far, this is the top ten team. 228 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:47.200 Yeah. I hadn't thought about it until earlier this earlier today. 229 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:48.759 I was just looking at some of the reaction out 230 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:51.600 there and you mentioned it a moment ago. SMU since 231 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:55.039 they made a quarterback change, is undefeated and like they look, 232 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:57.279 they look, they look pretty complete. You know, we'll see 233 00:10:57.279 --> 00:11:00.240 if they get humbled at some point throughout. But I 234 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:04.159 think the ACC, you know, having what is it, four 235 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:06.600 or five teams ranked, I mean again, they're probably only 236 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:08.559 going to get one team in the playoff. I would imagine. 237 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:12.879 Maybe I'm wrong, But is an ACC fan, meaning my 238 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:14.559 team that I'm a fan of is in the ACC 239 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:17.399 as of now? Is it safe to say that the 240 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:20.039 league did get better this year? Maybe not by much, 241 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:21.480 but like it's it's it's improving. 242 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:23.799 Yeah, I think that's fair. 243 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:28.679 Imagine if Florida State was at least decent oh yeah. 244 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:32.240 And then another note on SMU, just because it's it's 245 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:36.159 uh topical here is I don't think people are mad 246 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:39.559 enough about what RTT lastly did to bench his quarterback 247 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:42.919 Preston Stone. That was a a lot of what what 248 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:44.919 Teddy Bridgewater meant to Louisville. 249 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:47.360 That's that was Preston Stone, at least for a time. 250 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:49.159 Yeah, he had a lot of hype heading into this 251 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:50.159 first year in the ACC. 252 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:51.320 Yeah. 253 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:53.679 He he's a Dallas area kid, and I know Kevin 254 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:56.799 Jennings as well, but he's from Dallas proper. He committed 255 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:00.440 to SMU as a junior on the Army you know 256 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:04.039 the US Army National All American Game broadcast as a junior, 257 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:08.919 like he was their franchise quarterback and led them to 258 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:13.200 a conference championship and then h RTT Lashley bench them. 259 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:15.240 That could not have been easy. That took some real 260 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.720 Stones to do that. And since then they're undefeated. 261 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:19.279 So I think. 262 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:27.039 They've certainly helped the ACC's brand. Clemson, Uh, I don't 263 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:29.080 think he is a top twenty five team, as you 264 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:33.120 as you said, but Louisville's a good team. Miami and 265 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.080 cam Ward and Mario Cristobal have done a lot of 266 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:40.840 good for the ACC. I think Syracuse has played really 267 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:43.840 good football so far this year as well. Although that 268 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:44.879 pit loss was awful. 269 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:47.919 Yeah, that was a disaster. That was actually that was 270 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:49.879 one of those things you couldn't stop watching. I mean 271 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:51.440 it was not competitive, but man, it was like a 272 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:53.879 car wreck. You just couldn't you couldn't, couldn't look away. 273 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.120 All right, I've got some rapid fire questions for you 274 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.600 before we say goodbye here, Zach thoughts on Kirk kurb 275 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:04.080 Street taking his dog everywhere? Are you are you over it? 276 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:05.360 Do you think it's adorable? 277 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:05.879 Are you? 278 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:07.120 Do you not care at all? 279 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:13.240 I'm in the middle of not caring, Anthony. It's adorable. 280 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:18.120 I have two dogs, two pugs, and they're they're God's 281 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.200 worst creations. But if they weren't, if I could get 282 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:21.519 away of taking them everywhere, I would. 283 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:25.919 Okay, that's a good answer. I think it's it's sweet, 284 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:28.159 but I think at times it's like a little too proppy, 285 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:30.600 if that makes sense, Like we get it, like you know, 286 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:36.559 I don't disagree with that, all right? Will we see 287 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:37.919 at the end of this year. And I think we've 288 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:40.120 already discussed this a little bit earlier in the season. 289 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:44.240 But when it comes to coaching turnover, do we see 290 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:47.919 do we see an unexpectedly light year with that? And 291 00:13:47.960 --> 00:13:49.840 what I mean is I feel like before the season started, man, 292 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:51.519 there was a handful of coaches that you just thought, Okay, 293 00:13:51.559 --> 00:13:53.279 they need to be really, really good or they're going 294 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:55.720 to lose their job. But as the season's played on, 295 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:57.679 I don't. I don't feel like there's there's been a 296 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:00.759 coach from a big program, especially that you're like, well, 297 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:02.919 it's about to happen in any moment. Obviously Billy and 298 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:05.559 Napier it could still happen, but they've been They've been 299 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:08.519 rather competitive in some of their games. So do you 300 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:11.200 think we'll end up with a pretty active coaching caroussel 301 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:12.919 or maybe maybe not as much. 302 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:17.080 I've kind of thought that things would be light for 303 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:17.519 a few. 304 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:20.080 Years in a row, and I've been proven wrong at 305 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:23.200 every turn. But at the same time, we did set 306 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:24.879 a record last year. I don't know the number, but 307 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:27.759 I do believe we set or tied a record last year, 308 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:30.000 So that would tell you that this year has to 309 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:31.679 be a little bit lighter. I think it'll be a 310 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:35.759 lot quite a bit delayed. I mean it's already been delayed, 311 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:38.159 but I think we'll continue to see that, just because 312 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:41.279 we're going to have more teams playing in delay to 313 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:44.720 sidburn games that matter, more teams playing January games no matter, 314 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:46.720 and even into January twentieth. 315 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:48.960 I think that's going to slow things down and draw 316 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:49.759 them out quite a bit. 317 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.679 Well, we see any coaches from the Power four level, 318 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:56.720 and again this is just a guess, I'm asking you 319 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:59.120 to just guess, but you'd be more plugged in to 320 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:02.480 make a more educated guests than most of us. Power 321 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:05.399 for coaches that just kind of walk away, not because 322 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:08.600 their seats super warm, not because they're ancient in age, 323 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:12.159 but the job has changed a lot. You're seeing coaches 324 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:14.759 not really be able to hide the fact that they're 325 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:17.000 miserable and look, a lot of it's because the results 326 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:19.240 aren't there, but again, the job has changed. I don't 327 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:20.279 have a lot of sympathy for them. They make a 328 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:21.720 whole lot of money. They can lose every game and 329 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:24.799 still take millions. But do you think we'll see We've 330 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:28.200 seen it in basketball more frequently, and obviously Tony Bine 331 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:29.840 just did it. But that's something that you don't really 332 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:31.519 ever think about happening. But when it does happen this 333 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.320 day and age, with there being so much change in 334 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:35.399 college sports, you think, well, okay, I guess it kind 335 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:36.960 of makes sense. You think we see that in the 336 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:40.200 power for somebody just kind of unexpectedly saying yeah, I'm out. 337 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:41.240 I don't want to do this anymore. 338 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:46.200 I know Oklahoma State is praying that Mike Gundy walks away. 339 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:51.720 Interested in twenty twenty four started with admitting that he's 340 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:53.279 driven drunk a thousand times. 341 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:56.840 I've done it a thousand times. 342 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:58.559 And he had to move a press conference to zoom 343 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:02.399 because he got, I believe, headbutted by one of his 344 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:06.679 cows during his off week, and then this past week 345 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:09.240 he said that he or he said that all of 346 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:10.200 his critics are poor. 347 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:12.840 Yeah, poverty, poverty people. They don't know anything. 348 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:16.320 And in the meantime, all he's done is complain about 349 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:19.279 the portal and nil, which on the one hand, I get. 350 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:21.360 On the other hand, it's your way of life now, 351 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:23.159 in your chosen profession that you're paid a lot of 352 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:23.639 money to do. 353 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:25.960 And he's also lost six. 354 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:28.039 Games in a row and staring at its season ending 355 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:30.000 nine game losing streaking face. 356 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:34.159 Man, they're easily the most disappointing team outside of Florida State, right, 357 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:36.279 like they have to be. I forgot that they had 358 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:39.279 some real momentum heading into this year with Ali Gordon 359 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:40.519 back and everything. They're terrible. 360 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:45.600 They played for a conference championship last year and beat Oklahoma, 361 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:49.200 and it seems like Mike Gundy spit all of his 362 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:52.360 juice that he had left on beating Oklahoma and is 363 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:53.679 now just kind of quite quit. 364 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.320 Yeah. Mark Stoops is somebody around here. I don't see 365 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.919 it happening, but there are some Kentucky fans that just 366 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.679 believe that he's he's just burned out and really and 367 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.240 he's somebody that I can actually I appreciate his honesty 368 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:09.000 about the whole thing, Like he didn't even had it 369 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:11.880 at SEC media days that he's burned out. I mean 370 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:14.200 he flat he flat out said it in a different way. 371 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:17.000 And obviously they're having a season that's you know, they've 372 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.160 had seasons like this before in their in their existence, 373 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:21.640 but not with Stoops in this position where they clearly 374 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:24.519 just should be better than they are. I mean, you 375 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:26.759 think there's any chance that would have I just think 376 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:29.160 it's unlikely for somebody, even though it's been difficult and 377 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:30.880 they've gone through a rough stretch here, do they just 378 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.200 you know, they decide to call it quits. 379 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:37.200 Well, I know, Bob walked away out of the blue 380 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:40.880 when he I don't know the exact age gap between 381 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:42.720 Bob and Mark off the top of my head, but 382 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:45.480 they were around the same age, and Bob walked away 383 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:47.519 because their dad died of a heart attack when he 384 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:51.839 was that same age. So obviously they had a profound 385 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:54.480 effect on Bob and one would assume it would have 386 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:57.279 an effect on Mark. So if he did, it would 387 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:01.759 not surprise me. All though at the same time, eleven 388 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:04.799 months ago or whatever it was, he was the Texas 389 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:06.640 A and M head coach for like two hours. 390 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:09.000 I mean, he committed to them, he was on his 391 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:10.759 way out, and then you know he got told sorry, 392 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:12.720 we're not gonna be able to make it happen. So, yeah, 393 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:14.480 he's just a year. We're not even a year removed 394 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:16.839 from him committing to a whole new adventure that would 395 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:18.720 really be a different world for him compared to where 396 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:19.480 he is in Lexington. 397 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:24.799 Yeah, and I certainly he wouldn't be walking away if 398 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.880 that were to be the case. But you know, things 399 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:31.839 change and if he did walk away, it would not 400 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:33.400 it would not stun me. 401 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:37.000