WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:04.280 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:05.960 KFI AM six forty. 3 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:07.839 Let's talk a little bit about tech. 4 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:09.759 We're going to talk a little bit about tam MoU 5 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:12.880 and more with Marshall Collier, who joins me in studio 6 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:14.160 as she normally. 7 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:15.960 Does on a Thursday. Could even me, Marshall Callier. 8 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:17.839 I am, We've got my favorite topic. 9 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:19.359 Didn't we talk about this? 10 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:21.600 I mean we kind of like previews, We were like 11 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:23.480 a psychic or something clairvoyant. 12 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:26.640 We mentioned both Shine. I guess that's how they pronounced it. 13 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:27.039 Shine. 14 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:29.839 Yes, Shine, Shane ran it through a shine. 15 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:32.320 Yeah, I ran it through a thing ye okay, Shine 16 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:33.200 and Timmy. 17 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:37.920 We talked about them being questionable last week sketchy, and 18 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:42.799 yesterday two leaders of the US Consumer Product Safety Commission 19 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:47.119 are calling for the agency to investigate both Shine and 20 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:52.840 tim after quote unquote deadly baby and toddler products were 21 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:57.960 sold on both websites. We knew that they were questionable, shady, sketchy, 22 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:01.159 but now we're not the only ones saying that they're questionable, 23 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:02.119 shady and sketchy. 24 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:05.400 Well, I wanted to add a little something that isn't 25 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:09.400 in the news that we know about and it goes on. 26 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:14.359 You know, they said that they sold cushions for cribs 27 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:20.519 right now, don't you know that the companies who had 28 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:25.239 these cushions for cribs sold them off somewhere. Obviously the 29 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:29.719 Chinese manufacturer kept making them, but before the rule is passed, 30 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:34.120 they're often them off to dollar stares. Where do you 31 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:36.280 think some of that merchandise comes from? 32 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:40.120 Also, that's how they can sell products for ninety nine 33 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:41.920 cents or a dollar wink. 34 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.280 Wink, Well no, not even wink wink. You know, and 35 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:47.319 it's a pretty good deal. But when you look at 36 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:51.200 some of the dangerous products. And we're talking about Shine 37 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:56.120 and Timmu, which let's take it for granted. Let's talk 38 00:01:56.159 --> 00:02:00.599 about Amazon for a second. I love shopping Amazon. I 39 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:06.560 love unique fashion. That's why I've never downloaded Shane's Shine 40 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:11.800 Shane Shane. Yeah, I've come back, Shane. I've never downloaded 41 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:14.280 their app. But my husband can tell you that I 42 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:18.280 have bought what looked like good fashion. I'd open up 43 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:23.960 the plastic bag and a stench of chemicals would seriously, 44 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:27.000 I meanlie so bad. I'd have to close it back 45 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:30.639 up and I'd try to right back to Amazon Fresh, 46 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.360 and you know, of course they didn't care. But the 47 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:38.319 point is when the merchandise gets to Amazon. Let's say 48 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:43.680 you're an Amazon FBA seller. An FBA seller is somebody 49 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:48.439 who buys a bulk of merchandise, they ship it to Amazon. 50 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:54.560 Amazon charges them rent for the storage square footage, and 51 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:57.000 then they'll ship the items for you. 52 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:01.719 Okay, not bad. It sounds sounds like a good deal. 53 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:04.199 Yeah, well, I except they keep raising the rent for 54 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:06.319 the square footage, so it's a really bad deal. But 55 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.240 so a lot of these people look for real bargains 56 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:13.520 so that they can make a big profit on Amazon. 57 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:17.840 Now I'm not saying that anybody is selling deadly baby, 58 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:23.159 baby and toddler products, but in the entire world of 59 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:28.439 dangerous products, somehow I might think, where does it all go? 60 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:33.080 Does it just vaporize? Somebody buys it. That's called liquidation. 61 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:39.240 There'll be a liquidation sale and somebody will say, Okay, 62 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:44.439 I'm buying it for recycling quote unquote right, and turn 63 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:48.360 around and sell it, maybe on Amazon. Because Amazon does 64 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:51.000 not inspect everything that walks through the door. 65 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.159 No, that's why they just guarantee right the product. But 66 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:55.240 they're not going to expect. 67 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:57.719 It right, and the seller will get in trouble if 68 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:00.840 they have too many complaints against them. And you notice 69 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:04.080 that because the sellers will off and write something. If 70 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:07.719 you have a problem, come to us directly, blah blah blah. 71 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:08.960 So just know. 72 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:14.080 China for a while, I would say about five years ago, 73 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.680 was on the road to making really good products. They 74 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:22.319 had good electronics, they had good things. But because of 75 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:26.800 relations between our country and China, there was an embargo. 76 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:32.759 And when the embargo happened, they no longer had the 77 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:36.480 market for the higher line goods. So there they go 78 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:41.000 back to their roots of making cheaper China goods which 79 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.199 they used to make. I mean, there was a book written, 80 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:46.959 no Longer Cheaper China as they were doing their rise, 81 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:49.839 and I was there then and it was they were 82 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:56.480 making great products, but no Shanghai incredible stuff, but we 83 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:00.199 blocked it. Other countries blocked it. So now they went 84 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:01.959 back to their roots. Do you know there's a city 85 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:07.959 in China. I've been there. I love art. It's a 86 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:12.920 little city of painters and they have stalls one after 87 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.439 the other. And one stall is a guy who paints 88 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:20.439 Van Go, and there's Van Go's sunflowers. There's another guy 89 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:25.160 who does Picasso's whatever, and they each specialize in a 90 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.319 couple of different paintings, and you can go there and 91 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:31.319 these guys will paint you. I have one too at 92 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:39.360 my house tomorrow. Lumpika copies that are beautiful, and that's 93 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:45.360 what they did. China has always been entrepreneurial, but because 94 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:50.120 there is no regulation, they can put out crap and 95 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:50.839 get away with it. 96 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:53.600 So that's why when I go down to let's say, 97 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:59.680 the garment district, and I can get Louis Vitan, but 98 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:01.240 it's not exactly Louis Vutan. 99 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:05.439 Well, I do have to tell you something. This is terrible, 100 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:08.920 but thank goodness, and I miss you, Barbara. Sorry, I'm 101 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:12.720 going to tell you the story. So Barbara Walters and 102 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:16.000 I grew up in the same area. She's much more 103 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:19.199 mature than I was. And I was on the Today 104 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:22.759 Show with her and she had one of those air 105 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:26.839 Mais purses, one of those sixty thousand dollars jobs, and 106 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:29.680 I sat there and she said, oh, here, take it, 107 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.040 look at it, you know, And I'm playing with her 108 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.199 purse and the whole thing, and she turns to me 109 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:38.000 and she taps my shoulder and says, really it's a 110 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:43.959 waste of money. Go get a good copy in China. 111 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:48.120 And that's the truth. And I've seen actually the counterfeits 112 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:53.399 in China come in different grades. It's a whole thing. 113 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:53.879 There is. 114 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:58.959 I think it's the night crew from the purse manufacturing company. 115 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:02.240 Just sorry to jumping in it. But it's not just China. 116 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:04.160 Well, I was just in Insann out of Mexico and 117 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:10.120 you can find counterfeit passable, not high quality, the passable 118 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:14.800 counterfeit versions of just about every bag from Coach chanell 119 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:16.920 on down. Don't ask me why I know that. But 120 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:21.720 I'm saying it's not just China. It's a cottage industry. 121 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:28.160 Oh it's But like you say, there's there's different qualities 122 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:32.319 and some of the quality that I have seen because 123 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:34.079 I know the different things to look because I've been 124 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:36.439 an eBay seller and I you know, looking for bargains 125 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:40.959 and things like that. I wouldn't sell them. But yeah, 126 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:44.639 there are really good qualities. And I have a couple 127 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:47.120 of fake bags and now I can't tell the difference 128 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:49.399 between the royal ones and the I can. 129 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:53.439 It's called the price, the forty dollars, that's the difference. 130 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:55.519 It's when they're sitting in the closet for a while. 131 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:57.439 You know, you don't know. 132 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:02.519 But the whole thing is I wonder what genius it 133 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:07.319 was that figured out that toddler hoodies with a string 134 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:10.680 to tie around the net would be a strangulation issue. 135 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:14.279 What genius was that? Why did we have to pick 136 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.519 on China for that. I've seen little babies running around 137 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:18.439 those things. 138 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.360 On they are kind of popular. 139 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:25.040 Yeah, And why is that the part of the core 140 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:30.680 of the Consumer Product Safety Commission? I mean, my goodness, 141 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:35.679 why aren't they protecting us from those things in the US? 142 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:37.480 I suspect that you have an answer for that, and 143 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:38.799 you're going to tell us on the other side of 144 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:39.840 the break, Yeah, I do. 145 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:44.159 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from 146 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:45.840 KFI AM six forty. 147 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:49.480 Marshall Collier joins me in studio on this Tech Thursday, 148 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:54.840 and we were talking about the questions sketchiness of Temu 149 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:58.919 and Shine. They're very popular sites in this online marketplace 150 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:01.919 and people sometimes from what I hear, you can get 151 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:05.120 some tremendous deals. There are questions about the quality and 152 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:08.039 obviously safety of some of the products which are being 153 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:11.720 sold and Marshall Callier, I bow to you on this 154 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:15.120 because you have far more experience in this than I do. Well. 155 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:18.519 I've written since nineteen ninety eight on e commerce. I 156 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:22.039 wrote the first eBay for Dummies book and the tenth edition. 157 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:25.480 So this has been my research for years and years 158 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:29.440 and years, and I do know there's a markup in everything. 159 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:35.840 And like I said, when markets lose a product, they 160 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.000 have to sell it to someone. It gets liquidated to someone. 161 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:44.080 And now we have the little street vendor places who 162 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:47.120 are selling it. You know, everybody says, no, it's all stolen. 163 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:51.600 It's not all stolen merchandise. It's all merchandise that has 164 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:56.039 been liquidated to the penny. Or they've bought a palette 165 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:00.559 of let's say, broken vacuum cleaners, and they know how 166 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:03.679 to fix the vacuum cleaners. They fix them and they 167 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.799 sell them. I mean, this has all been going on. 168 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:12.120 And just because you know, somehow we crack down on 169 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:16.600 china for little hoodies for toddlers because it has a 170 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:19.120 string around it. And how many of those of you 171 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:25.279 seen since this is forever since forever, right, but you 172 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:30.679 know it's it's bad. We shouldn't allow it in this country. 173 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.200 But let's use another country, and I'm not even saying China. 174 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:41.039 Let's use a competing marketplace to make the bad guy, 175 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:45.399 and kind of that's what we're doing now. 176 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:46.159 Again. 177 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:49.120 I gotta tell you a lot of the merchandise from 178 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:53.720 China is really cheap garbage. But the dress you can 179 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:58.000 buy on Shine for ten bucks, you can go to 180 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:00.240 Amazon and buy for thirty bucks because you you have 181 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:03.679 a couple of steps. Now you see somebody has imported it, 182 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:06.799 you know, bought them by the dozen. Then they sell 183 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:10.879 them on Amazon and it's a whole new product. You 184 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.240 ever noticed those weird product brand names? 185 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:16.919 Yes, I do. From where do you think they come from? 186 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:17.120 Right? 187 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:20.480 Right? But I kind of maybe it's just me, But 188 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:26.200 I don't have high expectations on certain types of products 189 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.399 that I'm buying. If I can get it off Amazon. Like, 190 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:33.320 for example, I bought this tripod for to hold my 191 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.559 phone ten dollars. It's going to arrive at my house tomorrow, 192 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:40.679 I don't have high expectations. If it can do what 193 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:44.600 I needed to do, then fine, But I don't expect 194 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:47.080 it to be of high quality. If I wanted super 195 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:52.200 high quality, I would have gone to a legitimate retailer 196 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:55.360 locally and physically put hands on it and then made 197 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:55.919 that purchase. 198 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.000 Yeah, And I mean I have bought you know, the 199 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:01.919 circle lights, Yes, five those ring lights, right, I have 200 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:04.840 those at home. I have the desk one. So whenever 201 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:07.080 I do a video, I have the right lighting. 202 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:09.000 I don't know. 203 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:11.799 And then I go do a professional interview with somebody 204 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:14.360 and they have the square led lights and I said, 205 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:18.080 they the crazy cubes and everything. The heck, let's make 206 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:19.480 the person look really bad. 207 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:20.039 Folks. 208 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:21.600 Let me tell you, if you're doing your own video 209 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:23.399 at home, you need the circle light. 210 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:24.000 You really do. 211 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:27.720 But another thing our government came up with about China 212 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:31.840 which made me laugh so hard. This is part of 213 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:35.799 the big drum that they're beating. The reason they can 214 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:40.440 sell ten dollars dresses to the United States is because 215 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:45.720 of the deminimous Duty program. Explain that, please, right, and 216 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:50.639 what is that. I'll give you a real easy way. 217 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:52.080 You've ever been out. 218 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:54.120 Of the country, Yeah, just got back last. 219 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:56.279 Week, you know, and you fill out that little form 220 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:59.799 I have bought, you know, to declare yeah, declaire right, 221 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:05.519 And there's a number eight hundred dollars that if you 222 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:08.840 buy more than eight hundred dollars, or you declare more 223 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:11.559 than eight hundred dollars that you have to pay something 224 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.279 like a three percent tax up up to one thousand, 225 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:18.080 and then it goes. That's all it is. This eight 226 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:23.080 hundred dollars magic number is nothing new again, which all 227 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:26.919 of a sudden we are jumping on. People have been 228 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:31.440 using that eight hundred dollars for years. Twenty years ago 229 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:34.799 in my eBay business, I used to order from a 230 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:40.320 manufacturer in China some photography equipment we were talking about, 231 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:44.279 and I would sell it online and I'd order a 232 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:46.759 palette and I'd be darn sure that my order was 233 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.759 under eight hundred dollars. Everybody's known this, it's been no 234 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:52.320 secret for years. 235 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.440 But you could do that in perpetuity. Just make sure 236 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:56.720 each order is under eight hundred dollars and you're good 237 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:57.080 to go. 238 00:13:57.360 --> 00:13:57.440 Now. 239 00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:04.200 Can you imagine how much stuff TAMU you'd have to buy. 240 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:05.840 To get an eight hundred You can start your own store. 241 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:08.960 Right exactly, you know, and you're talking. You talked about 242 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:13.799 getting that camera holder. We have honestly switched to brand 243 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:17.159 names again, not Bill and Howell, because I don't know 244 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.559 what the heck happened with that company. If you're seeing 245 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:20.279 their ads on. 246 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:22.720 TV, I'm not having. 247 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:24.320 I know, somebody bought the name and here's the bill 248 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:27.919 and hole thermometer. Now it's what I thought it was 249 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:33.679 a camera, but no, it's really really interesting. You're gonna 250 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:37.320 have to start believing in brand names again because too 251 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:42.120 many times that you're burned on cheap purchases. You're finally 252 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:45.799 gonna say, I'm gonna buy from Zappo's. 253 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:47.320 Yeah, but see, I don't spend me. 254 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:53.120 I don't spend large quantities of money on non brand names. 255 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:56.000 Like if I'm gonna buy that phone, I'm gonna buy 256 00:14:56.000 --> 00:15:00.080 it from the legitimate Google, you know, distributor. Or if 257 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:01.720 I'm going to buy a laptop, it's going to be 258 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:05.279 a think Pad or something like that. You know, these 259 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:07.240 are brands that I can trust. 260 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:10.240 I agree one hundred percent. Well, you know, And it's funny. 261 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:13.440 I was listening to talk radio this weekend and somebody 262 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:17.080 went on this long rant about how they bought an 263 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:20.000 iPhone off eBay and it wasn't what it was and 264 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.200 though they were ripped off and oh how horrible, and 265 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:23.879 this is why you shouldn't shop on eBay. 266 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:27.360 Hello, I would never buy an iPhone on eBay. 267 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:33.200 You're safe because eBay has a one hundred percent money 268 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:36.519 back guarantee. All you have to do the minute you 269 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:39.320 do it is you go to the transaction on eBay, 270 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.360 you click a link, it takes you to a thing, 271 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:46.120 you upload a picture, and bingo, I get money. 272 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.559 I'm with you. I'm saying I know that I'm safe 273 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:51.399 on eBay. I'm saying I'm not going to make a 274 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:53.320 seven eight hundred dollars purchase. 275 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:59.399 Okay, on eBay, I have I sold a four thousand dollars. 276 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:00.200 We'll talk about. 277 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:02.279 Ooh, we got to do that one next week. 278 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:07.519 Then my eBay history is hysterical. But hey, so much 279 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:09.480 to talk about when it comes to ecut this kind 280 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:12.399 of stuff. But just remember this eight hundred dollars has 281 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:15.480 been around forever. Now we're using it as a target 282 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.000 against whoever it is. I think they need to come 283 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:19.360 up with some better stuff. 284 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:23.759 So the I guess the takeaway is stay away from shine, 285 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:25.000 stay away from Exhambo. 286 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:26.559 Don't even put it on your phone. 287 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:29.840 Folks, really, but if you are going to use them, 288 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:32.919 know what you're getting and where it probably came from. 289 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:35.600 And it's probably of lesser quality and. 290 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:38.879 Know you're paying with your data when that app is 291 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:39.559 on your phone. 292 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:41.399 Marshall call, You're always great to see you. 293 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:42.559 I love talking to you. 294 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:42.679 MO. 295 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:44.200 We should do this again next week. 296 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:44.759 Let's do. 297 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:49.200 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 298 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:50.840 KFI AM six forty. 299 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:54.960 And if you're a sports fan like me, you know 300 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:02.120 you know college football has started. Professional football started tonight. 301 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:06.000 As a matter of fact, Kansas City and Baltimore they're 302 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:09.640 playing right now on Thursday Night football. And if you 303 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:15.519 have direct TV, and if you're living in Chicago, New York, Philly, 304 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:20.359 San Francisco, or here in LA, you probably are struggling 305 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:22.759 to see these games. I say struggling because there are 306 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:25.400 other options, but you're not going to watch it via 307 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:28.319 direct TV. You might have heard of this story, but 308 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:30.599 I want to give you the latest. Let me just 309 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:35.279 start off, though, with the basics surrounding it. DirecTV and 310 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:41.079 Disney they're struggling to negotiate a new contract following direct TV, 311 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:44.519 satellite and streaming services which includes AT and t's U 312 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:50.960 Verse and others to broadcast ESPN, the Disney Channel FX 313 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:59.160 and other Disney owned networks which include ESPN two, ESPN Deports, ESPNU, 314 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:06.039 ESPN News, ACC Network, SCC Network, Disney Junior, and National Geographic. 315 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:10.880 All of those channels are blacked out right now. That 316 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:13.279 is if you have direct TV. There are ways that 317 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:19.319 you work around it, but not through DirecTV. Now, what 318 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:22.720 can you do to get your Thursday Night football or 319 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:25.079 Monday Night football, or if you want to see the 320 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:30.279 games on ABC on Saturday or Sunday, the college football games, 321 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:32.920 pro football games on Monday Night football. 322 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:35.640 Here's what you need to do first. 323 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:37.200 You just got to keep listening to the later with 324 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:39.200 Mo Kelly because we talk about this stuff. 325 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:40.880 All the time all the time. 326 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:46.319 You can get a direct a digital antenna and those 327 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:49.119 are like maybe seven or eight dollars. You can plug 328 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:51.880 that into your TV stick it near a window, and 329 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:54.279 you can get all your local channels for free. 330 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:56.960 Well, Mo, what local channels are you talking about? I'm 331 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:59.400 talking about some seventy local channels. 332 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:04.880 It's probably more than that, where you'll have your customary two, four, five, seven, nine, eleven, thirteen, 333 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:08.279 but you also have these substation channels where they show 334 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:12.240 old movies, classic movies. It'll be like four dot one, 335 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:16.559 four dot two right after NBC which is four channel four, 336 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:20.519 and you can watch local programming in that way. 337 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:22.359 That will give you your ABC channel. 338 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.160 Or if you want to stream, you can obviously get 339 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.960 ESPN Plus. You can just get a short time subscription 340 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:32.559 there and by the time that, let's say you have 341 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:35.640 a seven day trial subscription, you can try that and 342 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:39.200 hopefully the next week DirecTV will have come to some 343 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:41.200 sort of deal. Or you could do it like me 344 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:45.519 and just move your whole life to a streaming service 345 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:49.480 because I left direct TV many years ago. I got 346 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:52.279 tired of dealing with DirecTV and everything that they did. 347 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:55.920 So I have Sling TV and I absolutely love it. 348 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:00.240 And I went to Sling because I wanted Lives sports 349 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:03.440 and they have some great sport packages and you can 350 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:04.920 get all of these channels. 351 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:06.960 I think it's an add on. 352 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:09.599 I think it's maybe ten or fifteen dollars, So you 353 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:12.160 could probably have Sling and this add on for like 354 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:14.519 thirty five dollars at most if you want to keep 355 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:16.720 it for the whole month, and then you can watch 356 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:19.079 all of the channels that I just told you. 357 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:20.839 Now, if you're Mark Ronner, you don't give a damn 358 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:21.480 about any of this. 359 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.160 But if you're a sports officionado a true fan I know, 360 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:28.559 which is short for fanatic like me. Then you have 361 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:31.279 to be able to watch your Thursday night football, which 362 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:34.119 is going on right now, your Monday night football. You 363 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:37.680 got to watch your SEC football on Saturdays. You got 364 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:41.319 to watch USC football Big ten. You have to watch 365 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.039 all of your sports and we get that's not even 366 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:47.000 talking about like the Major League Baseball Game of the week, 367 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:49.640 which may be on. This is how you have to 368 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:52.920 work your way around it. Direct TV is not the 369 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.559 way to go. And Stephan, are you still with cable 370 00:20:56.920 --> 00:20:58.160 or have you completely left? 371 00:20:58.680 --> 00:20:58.799 No? 372 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:01.759 No, I have had a saying like you. I haven't 373 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:05.319 had DirecTV in probably four maybe five years. 374 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:06.519 Yeah. All streaming. 375 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:09.920 Yeah, I've been streaming I want to say for about 376 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:15.480 twelve thirteen years. And in terms of entertainment choices, is 377 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:17.279 the best decision I've ever made. 378 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:19.160 I was gonna say there was a time where I 379 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:21.079 was had a little bit extra money. I thought, you 380 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:22.880 know what, let's see and my dad still has it. 381 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:25.559 But I'm going through it and I'm like, I think 382 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:28.240 about how I am at home. I can choose exactly 383 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:30.319 what I want to watch when I want to watch it, 384 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:32.799 versus waiting for them, whether it's a rerun or not. 385 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:35.440 I just wait, Oh it's premiere tomorrow, okay, And I 386 00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:38.359 watch it late night, early morning, and I'm like, yeah, 387 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:42.079 this doesn't It's not worth it. The Direct TV model 388 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:46.319 is not It is just nonsensical. 389 00:21:46.440 --> 00:21:46.680 Now. 390 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:49.119 What I mean by that is, I don't know if 391 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:51.160 they still charge for it, but I know, up until 392 00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:53.599 very recently, I know they did where they would charge 393 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:57.480 you for HD. You can get a digital antenna and 394 00:21:57.519 --> 00:22:02.279 get HD right now for free, for free. And the 395 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:05.240 fact that the people pay for it, it's just mind boggling. 396 00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:09.240 And I know they still charge for their DVD or 397 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:11.960 you know, their digital DVD. I don't know if they 398 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.680 have a physical or or excuse me, digital recorder. Oh yeah, 399 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:20.000 a digital recorder. You I have mine for free with 400 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:20.640 Sling TV. 401 00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:21.640