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Speaker 2: is Dan Ray. I'm the host of Nightside here every
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: Rob Brooks is in the control room as he is
Speaker 2: every night with me. Hello, Mustard, I want you all right,
Speaker 2: you sit right here. Okay, that's perfect, that's perfect with
Speaker 2: us is doctor ephrin Flores. He is a theoriatric radiologist
Speaker 2: at the Massachusetts General Hospital. Doctor Flores, welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
Speaker 3: Thank you for welcoming tonight. Pleasure and an honor to
Speaker 3: be here talking with you and everybody who's visiting to us.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. World Lung Cancer Day is
Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about, which comes up on
Speaker 2: August the first. But I guess only about six percent
Speaker 2: of Americans who are eligible for screenings actually get them. Now,
Speaker 2: most of us do all sorts of medical visits during
Speaker 2: the year. Why such a low number of lung cancer
Speaker 2: screenings and what does a lung cancer screening involve? Is
Speaker 2: it necessarily an X ray or is it something a
Speaker 2: little a little easier than an X ray?
Speaker 3: Well, now, thank you so much for asking the question.
Speaker 3: And the low participation rate is something that we always
Speaker 3: try to better understand from the patient perspective, and we
Speaker 3: think about providing care like a team support. Basically, the
Speaker 3: patient is their control of their health, and what we're
Speaker 3: trying is to support them along their journey to achieve
Speaker 3: better help. And when I think about lung cancer screening,
Speaker 3: which is done using a CT or a scan or
Speaker 3: what we call CAT scan more commonly, which is more
Speaker 3: advanced type of chess X ray or X ray or
Speaker 3: catscan of your lungs. It's to look for early detection
Speaker 3: like small lung nodules that may potentially be lung cancer
Speaker 3: early lung cancer. But those are are something that we
Speaker 3: look for patients that are at a higher risk of
Speaker 3: developing lung cancers. So the criteria for being eligibly ages
Speaker 3: fifty and older, people that have smoked the equivalent of
Speaker 3: one pack a day for twenty years or more. And
Speaker 3: those are and people that are either currently smoking or
Speaker 3: have quit within the past fifteen years. But we always
Speaker 3: tell patients that if they think that they potentially meet
Speaker 3: ability criteria or if they are uncertain, to have a
Speaker 3: conversation with their doctor because the most important thing is,
Speaker 3: like we see lung cancer screening with cash can as
Speaker 3: an opportunity to take control of your help for our patients.
Speaker 4: Either.
Speaker 3: We understand that some people may be currently smoking and
Speaker 3: it's hard to quit, so we don't have to have
Speaker 3: a patient that quits smoking in order to get long screening.
Speaker 3: We can certainly support them through that journey if they
Speaker 3: desire to quick because there are a lot of benefit
Speaker 3: that you get from from smoking and also from early
Speaker 3: detection of lung cancer. You get more options and what
Speaker 3: we want to work hand in hand with our patients
Speaker 3: to achieve their overall health goals and take control of
Speaker 3: their of their health through early detection.
Speaker 2: So a cat scan is uh, it's it's not an
Speaker 2: invasive procedure. You're I assume you're in one of those
Speaker 2: metal tubes. Was that the way that the cat scan
Speaker 2: would be done?
Speaker 3: Well, it's almost like I would say, I wouldn't say
Speaker 3: you are a fool too, but it's almost like a
Speaker 3: metal doughnuts because you go.
Speaker 2: In and out.
Speaker 3: Basically you take a deep resting and the actual image
Speaker 3: acquisition are getting the images takes Uh, it's shorter than
Speaker 3: me saying lung cancer squating. You take a few seconds.
Speaker 3: There's no needle, painless, very quick and easy. It's probably
Speaker 3: take more time filling out the paperwork to get their.
Speaker 5: Cap can that the actual cat can itself.
Speaker 2: Now, is is this covered by insurance or is there
Speaker 2: is there a that is the the cost that's prohibitive
Speaker 2: and that's discouraging people. What is it? Do you have
Speaker 2: to be a certain age in order to uh, you know,
Speaker 2: to be covered.
Speaker 3: So you have to it's away covered by insurance for
Speaker 3: both Medicaid and Medicare patients. These are cover no additional costs.
Speaker 3: And it's something that if you meet the criteria. If
Speaker 3: you're older than fifty and you smoke the equivalent of
Speaker 3: more than a pack or more a day for over
Speaker 3: twenty years, and you currently are smoking or have smoked
Speaker 3: and quit within the past fifteen years, you should you
Speaker 3: should be eligible and covered by your insurance. I think
Speaker 3: that some of the concerns is that we always think
Speaker 3: about the word cancer and we associate it with there
Speaker 3: has a lot of negative common patient.
Speaker 2: And understandably so, doctor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so. But there are many options for treatment
Speaker 3: for our patients, and that's the way way that patient
Speaker 3: will have more options to treat it and potentially cure
Speaker 3: it is through early detection and that where lung cancer
Speaker 3: screaming becomes an incredible tool that we want all patients
Speaker 3: to benef We want no patient left find.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people in my generation. I'm a
Speaker 2: baby boomer. We learned early on in nineteen sixty four
Speaker 2: before many of us had developed the habit. When the
Speaker 2: surge in general made the announcement that smoking causes lung cancer.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of us, including me. I've never smoked
Speaker 2: a cigarette in my life, never had a desire to
Speaker 2: smoke a cigarette in my life. So I'm assuming if
Speaker 2: you were my doctor and I said, gay, just for
Speaker 2: the fun of it, I'd like to get a lung
Speaker 2: cancer screening. I'm not eligible.
Speaker 3: That incre You will not be eligible because would not
Speaker 3: be considered with what it seems to be a population
Speaker 3: of high risk. I know that there are other potential
Speaker 3: exposure factor BO those are not not yet covered by
Speaker 3: health insurance because the information on the research is not
Speaker 3: there yet.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you the smallest decision medically, decision that
Speaker 2: I made in my life. My dad had been a
Speaker 2: two pack of day smoker. I hated the smell of
Speaker 2: cigarette smoke and and I just had no interest in it.
Speaker 2: I was involved in a lot of sports and wanted
Speaker 2: We were told smoking stunted your growth, and I didn't
Speaker 2: want to have that impact on me. So that's that's.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of vices out there, you know.
Speaker 2: I like my cores beer and my red wine and
Speaker 2: things like that, But cigarettes were never an attraction and
Speaker 2: if you if you qualify, talk to your own your
Speaker 2: your general care practitioner UH and see if if you
Speaker 2: qualify for this testing. Because it sounds like an easy test,
Speaker 2: non invasive, not unpleasant physically or anything like that. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of other tests that you know, colon oscopy's
Speaker 2: come to mind, which which can be not the not
Speaker 2: a fun day, but they're they're necessary as well. Doctor Flores,
Speaker 2: you explained it so well. Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: your time tonight, and thank you so much for what
Speaker 2: you do.
Speaker 3: Oh no, thank you so much. Pleasure of mine and
Speaker 3: really an honor to be here and thank you for
Speaker 3: a great evening and have a great risk of your show.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much again, Thank.
Speaker 2: You, doctor Flores. Thank you very much, Doctor Efrin Flores,
Speaker 2: thorriat thoracic thoracic radiologist at the Massachusetts General Hospital. When
Speaker 2: we get back, we're going to talk about a big
Speaker 2: lawsuit in Ohio dealing with bowlless chicken chicken wings. We're
Speaker 2: going to talk with Professor John Rizzby, he's a patent professor.
Speaker 2: This is a fun story, but it just shows how
Speaker 2: sometimes issues end up in court that probably shouldn't be
Speaker 2: in court. We'll be back right after this.
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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm telling you Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. I also want to welcome back
Speaker 2: patent law professor John Risvey.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: He has been with us before. Professor Risvey. Welcome back
Speaker 2: to Night sid How are you?
Speaker 4: Yeah good, It's always a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: So this is the case of the boneless chicken wings
Speaker 2: that can have bones after all, and this got all
Speaker 2: the way to the Ohio Supreme Court. Are we wasting
Speaker 2: courtroom time on fun issues like this? Give us the
Speaker 2: background brief it for us, if you will, and let's
Speaker 2: have some fun with it.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, yeah, sure. So the plaintiffs is an individual.
Speaker 4: His name is Michael Berkheimer, and he went to dinner
Speaker 4: with his wife and some friends at a restaurant in
Speaker 4: Ohio called Wings on Brookwood. He ordered boneless wings with
Speaker 4: garlic sauce, and three days later he had a fever.
Speaker 4: He was vomiting. He went to the emergency room and
Speaker 4: it turned out that he had a thin bone that
Speaker 4: tore his esophagus and caused an infection. So he sued
Speaker 4: claiming that the boneless wings were not boneless and there's
Speaker 4: a bone in them, and it sued for damages. So
Speaker 4: the court looked at this and they said that the
Speaker 4: basically common knowledge that chickens have bones, and that the
Speaker 4: reasonable consumer would not understand boneless to be one hundred boneless.
Speaker 2: So well, particularly with I am not a big chicken
Speaker 2: wing guy. Okay, I don't know that I've ever had
Speaker 2: a chicken wing for the very reason that I don't
Speaker 2: like to deal with anything that's bony. I mean in
Speaker 2: the sense that I don't I'm not interested in the
Speaker 2: turkey leg of Thanksgiving, thank you very much. If I'm
Speaker 2: going to have a chicken, I wanted to be a
Speaker 2: breasted chicken. Better if it's covered with parmesan cheese and
Speaker 2: tomato sauce. But no bones. This guy, obviously, you know,
Speaker 2: he suffered an injury, There's no doubt about it, and
Speaker 2: there probably was a relationship, as you said, with the
Speaker 2: injury that the dining at the restaurant. Is this a
Speaker 2: guy who was just out looking to you know, I
Speaker 2: guess he probably really honestly felt that that he was
Speaker 2: injured and that that somehow he had a legitimate cause
Speaker 2: of action. I guess for it to get to the
Speaker 2: Ohio State Supreme Court, you wonder why I wasn't laughed
Speaker 2: out of court below.
Speaker 4: Well, and you know, I've been looking at a lot
Speaker 4: of these cases. So when you look at them, you know,
Speaker 4: when you look at a lot of them, something up
Speaker 4: being more sympathetic than others. This is a case where
Speaker 4: the guy actually is suing for an injury case, a
Speaker 4: legitimate injury. Now, there's been all kinds of other cases,
Speaker 4: like you know, when does for example, when does you
Speaker 4: know if pistachio ice cream if it just has flavoring
Speaker 4: and no pistachios, Uh, that's a different you know. That's
Speaker 4: the case that was brought. There's a case, several cases
Speaker 4: brought against Starbucks because their mango dragonfruit has neither mango
Speaker 4: noragon fruit. It's just mango dragon fruit lemonade.
Speaker 3: Uh. And they you know, and they thought it was
Speaker 3: going to have that.
Speaker 4: There's also there's also uh gosha there. Uh. Like vanilla,
Speaker 4: for example, is when does vanilla just mean a flavor
Speaker 4: versus when is it an actual ingredient in the course
Speaker 4: of hell that vanilla is, uh, is a flavor. And
Speaker 4: then the tougher cases, so, okay, vanilla is just a flavor.
Speaker 4: What about something that's that's a strawberry, like a strawberry
Speaker 4: daker or something doesn't have to actually contain any strawberries
Speaker 4: or a strawberry, just a considered by consumers a flavor.
Speaker 4: So ultimately it comes down to what what do what
Speaker 4: does the reasonable consumer expect from, you know, from the.
Speaker 2: Reason the reasonable person standard that we all learned about
Speaker 2: in law school at some point. But you think, you tall,
Speaker 2: you think some of these cases over time. The one
Speaker 2: that I always intrigued me was the person who who's
Speaker 2: who spilled? I was at hot coffee from McDonald's. Uh.
Speaker 2: I think it was a woman in her lap and
Speaker 2: and she sued McDonald's. I think it was I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure it was McDonald's.
Speaker 4: So it was McDonald's, and she sewed that the coffee
Speaker 4: was extraordinarily hot, uh, you know, and that that that
Speaker 4: almost became the that that case became the symbol for
Speaker 4: an outcry from people asking for reform, right saying that
Speaker 4: these lawsuits have gotten out of control.
Speaker 2: But but in that particular in that particular case, if
Speaker 2: her reasoning had been that led us and I think
Speaker 2: it was a drive through. If I'm not mistaken that
Speaker 2: if the stybrophoone cup had not had the cap put
Speaker 2: on properly, I could see that, and someone you know,
Speaker 2: took the coffee and put it in there, and then
Speaker 2: it was like it was a flaw in the cap.
Speaker 2: That would be a more legitimate argument, I think, well,
Speaker 2: potentially more legitimate argument than that the coffee was too hot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again there's uh, there's this distinction though between people.
Speaker 4: There there's no question in that case that she was injured,
Speaker 4: and the same thing with this guy with the chicken,
Speaker 4: with no question that they're injured. The tougher ones are
Speaker 4: where they claimed they didn't get what they thought they
Speaker 4: were getting. There's a Nissan, the Nissan Frontier, uh was
Speaker 4: shown in an advertisement like basically driving almost driving up
Speaker 4: the side of a like a hill, like a dune
Speaker 4: buggy almost and and and they were sued. It was
Speaker 4: thrown out of court. But the person that suit claims
Speaker 4: that he was under the impression that the vehicle was
Speaker 4: able to maneuver like that. Uh, And who knows maybe
Speaker 4: that's why we see a lot of these car commercials
Speaker 4: with you know, with these disclaimers that pop up like
Speaker 4: you know, professional driver, closed course or whatever, so that
Speaker 4: people don't say that, you know, they thought that's what
Speaker 4: it's going to be.
Speaker 3: Taco Bell was.
Speaker 4: Sued because there someone actually took the posters and the
Speaker 4: advertisement showing the size of some of their uh, you know,
Speaker 4: food to be reflective, and there's lawsuit was that they
Speaker 4: didn't get what they thought they were getting. Those like that.
Speaker 4: Oh in this case, yeah, I remember now I was
Speaker 4: a Mexican pizza and they said the pizza that they
Speaker 4: received had a lot less fewer toppings than what was
Speaker 4: shown in the ad. Those that don't have as much
Speaker 4: sympathy for there's no there's no there's no personal injury.
Speaker 4: They didn't go to the hospital, they weren't burned, they
Speaker 4: weren't didn't get their esophagets cut. They simply didn't get
Speaker 4: what they assumed or thought they were getting. But of
Speaker 4: Chicken Wings, getting back to that, I know you're not
Speaker 4: a big fan, but there's a case where Buffalo Wild Wings,
Speaker 4: the restaurant was sued. The chain was sued by a
Speaker 4: man who said that the wings that they weren't wing meat,
Speaker 4: and that he thought chicken wings, boneless chicken wings, were
Speaker 4: boneless chicken winged meat, but instead it was breast meat.
Speaker 4: And you might say, okay, so if it's you know,
Speaker 4: what's the harm? How is he? How is he injured?
Speaker 4: He claims his injury or his harm or damages so
Speaker 4: to speak, was that that he paid that that wing
Speaker 4: meat is should be way more expensive than chicken breast meat.
Speaker 4: And his injury is that he overpaid because he wouldn't
Speaker 4: that he wouldn't have purchased the chicken wings, the boneless
Speaker 4: chicken wings, if he knew it was really breast chicken breast,
Speaker 4: he would have purchased nuggets and nuggets. He would have
Speaker 4: paid a lot less for chicken nuggets.
Speaker 2: Really, I hope, professor, that a lot of these cases
Speaker 2: of block pro say because I can't imagine who the
Speaker 2: lawyers are. Seriously, there's almost an abusive process argument here,
Speaker 2: frivolous claims in some respects in court. And I understand
Speaker 2: that there's a wide opportunity for people to go in
Speaker 2: and assert a claim, but oh man, yeah, a lot.
Speaker 4: Of these cases the defendants counter sue for legal fees sure,
Speaker 4: of course, asserting that the case is frivolous and that
Speaker 4: they should have their attorney fees covered because they had
Speaker 4: to go through and and and defend something that never
Speaker 4: should have been brought. Subway in fact, and I don't
Speaker 4: know if they were successful or not, but they saw
Speaker 4: it almost seven hundred thousand dollars in legal fees against
Speaker 4: a woman who claimed who sued claiming that their tuna
Speaker 4: subs did not contain tuna, so she brought the lawsuits,
Speaker 4: went quite a bit forward with it, and then withdrew.
Speaker 4: But even though she withdrew, Subway was like, hey, wait
Speaker 4: a minute, we've been harmed. We spent all this money
Speaker 4: defending something that shouldn't have been brought, and then it
Speaker 4: got a lot of negative publicity and a lot of
Speaker 4: our consumers started doubting whether to know was rail just
Speaker 4: because somebody brought a lawsuit. And sorry, you can't just
Speaker 4: say never mind, I would draw the suit, you know,
Speaker 4: never mind, just kitty kidding or whatever. No, you brought
Speaker 4: the lawsuit, We spent this money defending it. We were harmed,
Speaker 4: and they sued almost you know, suit her for seven
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars, and I don't know what the court
Speaker 4: ended up deciding.
Speaker 2: I might that did not have deep pockets.
Speaker 4: That that's the real worry that even if they win now,
Speaker 4: Subway may have brought the countersuit just for to recover
Speaker 4: their reputation right in front of their consumers.
Speaker 2: Professor, always a pleasure to I enjoy every time we
Speaker 2: get a chance to talk. And you're a font of information.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you keep all these cases in
Speaker 2: your head, Professor John Risby, the patent Professor, Thanks so much, professor.
Speaker 2: We'll talk again.
Speaker 4: Okay, Oh, it's a pleasure. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Right back at you. Here we go, come, here comes
Speaker 2: the newscast, and I'm not going to be talking with
Speaker 2: Bill Dendy. He's a financial strategist. Seventy percent of parents
Speaker 2: this summer say back to school shopping is too expensive.
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. We've had twenty percent inflation.
Speaker 2: We'll talk with Bill Deandy on the other side of
Speaker 2: the news break right here one night.
Speaker 1: Side night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back everybody. School. I hate to say this.
Speaker 2: In July, school is right around the corner. I should
Speaker 2: have I should have said, look, if there are any
Speaker 2: teenagers listening, please get them away from the radio, or
Speaker 2: I need school children. This was always a bad time
Speaker 2: of year when when I was in school, because it
Speaker 2: was like, what is that?
Speaker 6: July's old Nick August, and it's back to school with us,
Speaker 6: as Bill Dendy, So the shock of going back to
Speaker 6: school is now not.
Speaker 2: Only impacting the students who are currently enjoying a summer vacation,
Speaker 2: but also the parents who are doing back to school shopping.
Speaker 2: Bill Dendy, Welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 7: How are you hey, You're exactly right.
Speaker 8: It's good to be with you.
Speaker 7: But you hear the parents now complaining and woesing as
Speaker 7: much as the students because everything costs so much more money,
Speaker 7: and the kids need the new shoes, they need the clothes,
Speaker 7: they need the backpack, they need the notebooks, and it's
Speaker 7: all costing like twenty five percent more than what it
Speaker 7: costs three years ago. And for people whose budgets are
Speaker 7: already kind of tight, this extra punch right here at
Speaker 7: the end of the summertime puts a lot of people
Speaker 7: into a little bit of debt and hope to get
Speaker 7: paid off by the holiday season to go back into
Speaker 7: dead again for the holidays and get that paid off
Speaker 7: by I don't know, a do it all over again.
Speaker 2: Well, then then you got to deal with Uncle Sam
Speaker 2: who wants to pick your pocket for some money on
Speaker 2: tax day. Oh, it's never un excited.
Speaker 8: Like we never get out. It seems like we're almost
Speaker 8: out and then they hit us again.
Speaker 2: Yeah and okay, so the wait is that now, First
Speaker 2: of all, there there were some important facts of life here.
Speaker 2: The kids who were going from the first to the
Speaker 2: second grade, or the second to the third, or the
Speaker 2: third to fourth grow every year and they grow out
Speaker 2: of the clothes that they could have born last year.
Speaker 2: So this is it isn't a question of why don't
Speaker 2: you just recycle the old clothes, because now you got
Speaker 2: to buy the kid's new clothes because you got to
Speaker 2: kind of keep up with the Joneses or whatever. But
Speaker 2: more importantly, you're got to have the kid wearing clothes
Speaker 2: to fit. So what's it cost? Is there the quote
Speaker 2: unquote average ca lost for one student going back to
Speaker 2: grammar school or worse yet, junior high school, or even
Speaker 2: worse yet where fashion becomes very important in high school.
Speaker 2: What are parents spending these days.
Speaker 7: Bill Well, parents on average spending two to three thousand
Speaker 7: dollars as a little bump in the budget as they
Speaker 7: get the supplies and get the clothing in the center.
Speaker 8: One kid, and yeah, a couple thousand dollars for the kid.
Speaker 7: Now, the supplies themselves, three hundred dollars is not beyond
Speaker 7: the expectation. It's the clothing and the other accessories that
Speaker 7: go along with it. And as they start packing the
Speaker 7: kids up to do high school in college, a lot
Speaker 7: of parents are throwing in the computers and other more
Speaker 7: expensive items, so that number can get quite high.
Speaker 8: But you know, as you say, it's not a surprise.
Speaker 8: We've been doing this for some time.
Speaker 7: We should know by now that these things happen. And
Speaker 7: it sure enough is proven out that those who do
Speaker 7: a little bit of plan pay a whole lot less
Speaker 7: for the same goodies as those who don't, because there
Speaker 7: are a lot of resources now to help us out,
Speaker 7: a lot of choices of where we go get these supplies,
Speaker 7: and those who will take the time to plot a
Speaker 7: course then oftentimes fay significantly less than those who just
Speaker 7: show up the day before school starts and says, what's
Speaker 7: the list, let's go get it all. So I think
Speaker 7: that the key here is that even these higher calls
Speaker 7: can be somewhat controlled with those who will take a
Speaker 7: little time to plan and to budget.
Speaker 2: Okay, so look, we know that inflation's are huge factor,
Speaker 2: as you said, twenty five percent up from you know,
Speaker 2: four or five years ago. But I also believe, and
Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong here, but I also believe that the
Speaker 2: days of when well, I know, when I was again,
Speaker 2: I'm a baby boomer hand me downs. You know, your
Speaker 2: your older brother or your older sister wore those clothes
Speaker 2: two years ago. They didn't get thrown out. Particularly if
Speaker 2: your parents were born during the depression, it was no
Speaker 2: big problem. You would you wear the clothes that your
Speaker 2: brother or whatever your sister wore a couple of years before.
Speaker 2: I wonder if stylistically now kids have been because of
Speaker 2: the parents are just you know, it's an avalanche back
Speaker 2: to school ads, and the kids see the back to
Speaker 2: school ads and they want the latest, greatest type of cloth.
Speaker 2: You know, is that a fact?
Speaker 7: Parents surrendering?
Speaker 8: And truly you said it's so much better than I did.
Speaker 8: Go ahead, you know, you know we had we had
Speaker 8: bigger families too. I mean if you were the youngest kid, that.
Speaker 7: That clothing may have gone through three or four passes
Speaker 7: before you got it, and you might, you know, get
Speaker 7: lucky if it was totally worn out and you go
Speaker 7: get something new, but it was Families are smaller, hand
Speaker 7: me downs don't flow as well, and I and I
Speaker 7: don't think you need to do all that, but I
Speaker 7: do think that you need to be judicious at the
Speaker 7: dollars you spend and not go buy a T shirt
Speaker 7: for seventy dollars when the same T shirt is five
Speaker 7: dollars elsewhere because of a brand name. And I see
Speaker 7: a lot of the stealth wealth thinking coming about in
Speaker 7: these younger children, where it's got the sticker on it
Speaker 7: that only a few people would know that's a very
Speaker 7: expensive T shirt. It looks a whole lot like something
Speaker 7: else you get elsewhere, but it's got the right sticker
Speaker 7: on it. I think that that controlling those It's not
Speaker 7: even a it's not even a reasonable want. It's a
Speaker 7: desire to more than keep up with the joneses at
Speaker 7: a young age. I think people do better when they
Speaker 7: don't take the kids when they go shopping for the
Speaker 7: school supplies. I think I think with the clothing maybe,
Speaker 7: but for the school supplies in general.
Speaker 8: Get the list and keep to your list.
Speaker 7: Know what your real needs are there.
Speaker 3: Look at different.
Speaker 7: Places to shop, from the office supply stores to online
Speaker 7: shopping to some of the superstores that will take very
Speaker 7: little profits and school supplies just to get you into
Speaker 7: the store. And sometimes their deals are the best. And
Speaker 7: it's like a big game of chicken between the retailers
Speaker 7: and the consumers because the retailers don't want to get
Speaker 7: stuck with things on their shelves, but they don't want
Speaker 7: to lower the prices too fast and misprofit. But then again,
Speaker 7: if they do lower the prices now and they can
Speaker 7: sell some other things, that works too. So you might
Speaker 7: end up having a low price for these items here,
Speaker 7: but the much higher price for everything else. Okay, here's
Speaker 7: a question you're in comparison.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's a question. We all know about the after
Speaker 2: Christmas sale and after Halloween sale. You know, all the
Speaker 2: candy is cut in half. Should parents say that the kids, look,
Speaker 2: we'll get you the latest and greatest, but instead of
Speaker 2: getting it on September first, we're going to wait to
Speaker 2: September fifteenth. Is that a strategy than what parents should
Speaker 2: be thinking about.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but that is that game of chicken between you
Speaker 7: and the retailers because you kids and you kids, you
Speaker 7: might just be left with the door the Explore lunch
Speaker 7: box for your thirteen year old, and the door is
Speaker 7: no longer cool, so you might not have the selection.
Speaker 7: But yes, there are times, and there are certain staples
Speaker 7: that you know we're going to do almost every year
Speaker 7: that you can go ahead and bulk up on those
Speaker 7: in between the seasons and you don't have to do
Speaker 7: it all day one, especially in clothing because their level
Speaker 7: of grown other two inches for Christmas.
Speaker 2: The other thing which is interesting to me is I
Speaker 2: can understand where, you know, kids want to wear the
Speaker 2: jerseys of their famous sport, their favorite sports teams. Here
Speaker 2: in Boston, Red Sox T shirts are pretty cool because
Speaker 2: everybody's a Red Sox fan. But what I always love
Speaker 2: is there's a whole bunch of these big named clothing
Speaker 2: companies all like south Face. I'm just making a name up,
Speaker 2: you know, just maybe making up a name of a
Speaker 2: company self face, and you pay a lot for that clothes,
Speaker 2: for that type of clothing, but on the back of
Speaker 2: you know, in this hypothetical company that I'm referring to
Speaker 2: you will walk around as an invert, as an advertiser
Speaker 2: for that company every time you wear the piece of
Speaker 2: clothing you bought.
Speaker 7: If you get my drift, Well, it's been going on
Speaker 7: for generations now. I can remember the alligator when I
Speaker 7: was in school. You had to have the eyes odd
Speaker 7: and you're just advertising more alligators.
Speaker 5: But it's what we do, and it's it's it's.
Speaker 7: Worked for the retailers, it's worked for the fashion designers,
Speaker 7: and as a social status symbol, I guess it's worked
Speaker 7: for people as well. But it is interesting how those
Speaker 7: things come and go on popularity, and it is amazing
Speaker 7: to me the same product a couple of months later
Speaker 7: and behalf the price.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I still have some of those alligators.
Speaker 2: Sure it's if I'm not mistake. Hey, Bill Dandy, thank
Speaker 2: you very much. As always, you enjoyed great guests. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 7: God bless you always a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Back at you so again. Parents, Maybe pick up on
Speaker 2: a little bit a couple of those tips and save
Speaker 2: yourself a few dollars. We get back and talk about
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of games going on in Paris. We're
Speaker 2: gonna learn about them. I think they're international games. They're
Speaker 2: called the words kind of have to pronounce called. They
Speaker 2: called the Olympics. We're going to talk about some New
Speaker 2: England athletes who have either some local roots or college
Speaker 2: dies as and some of whom I think have already
Speaker 2: won medal. So we're going to be talking with a
Speaker 2: mean Tory, Boston Globe multi platform editor and red producer
Speaker 2: right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World,
Speaker 1: Nice Sight Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, I think most of us know that the Olympics
Speaker 2: are going on in Paris. Okay, they could have been
Speaker 2: in Boston. Oh would have been great if they had
Speaker 2: been in Boston in twenty twenty four. I'm sure Boston
Speaker 2: could have handled it with us. Is a mean toy.
Speaker 2: She's a Boston Golale multi platform editor and web producer
Speaker 2: and mean Welcome to night Side. I guess we have
Speaker 2: about forty athletes in Paris this summer who have local
Speaker 2: roots or college ties or maybe professional sports ties to
Speaker 2: the greater Boston area. That's a pretty good showing, I think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me, Dan, Yeah, it's not bad.
Speaker 5: We've got a whole score of rowers, mostly from Harvard
Speaker 5: and Dartmouth and Brown. We've got some really impressive track athletes.
Speaker 5: We've obviously got some of the Celtics involved. We've got
Speaker 5: what seems like the entire Harvard fencing team. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I think we ended up with something like fifty one
Speaker 5: or fifty two athletes that we ended up with on
Speaker 5: our list of locals who were you know, some of
Speaker 5: them are native Vermonters that went to u H. Some
Speaker 5: of them are folks that just ended up going to
Speaker 5: Harvard or BU and some of them are you know,
Speaker 5: the Jason Tatum's and jew Holidays of the world that
Speaker 5: just called Boston home these days. So it's it's it's
Speaker 5: been cool to see people with with local ties on
Speaker 5: the biggest stage of it.
Speaker 2: Well, it was interesting. I was listening to a interview
Speaker 2: with Steve Kerr last night and I guess, uh, Tatum
Speaker 2: was a d n P coaches decision in the first
Speaker 2: game against Serbia, which to me it seems crazy. Well,
Speaker 2: Tatum would not have gotten some time out there that
Speaker 2: you know, curse and oh yeah, he'll play before before
Speaker 2: the tournament is over. I guess they have they have
Speaker 2: a tough game coming up against celt Sudan. I didn't
Speaker 2: even know there was a celt Susann Sudan. I knew
Speaker 2: there was a Sudan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's the it's the world's youngest country. I
Speaker 5: think it'll be became a country Circle of twenty eleven.
Speaker 5: So the more you know, I think I think it's
Speaker 5: a younger country than Lebron James's on Brownie. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: know that was That was definitely a big surprise around here.
Speaker 5: I think the the Twitter sphere went a bit nuts
Speaker 5: with it, and I think people were just mostly surprised
Speaker 5: to see so much playing time for Drew Holliday and
Speaker 5: Derek White, who are obviously not considered the big stars
Speaker 5: of the Celtics like Jason Tatum is, and for a
Speaker 5: guy that's made three consecutive you know, all NBA first teams,
Speaker 5: you'd think you'd be, you know, one of the first
Speaker 5: guys out there. But you know, I got to save
Speaker 5: him for South Sudan. I gotta save him for the Dator.
Speaker 2: So I I'd love to know what the point spread
Speaker 2: is on South Sudan. I can't think of any player
Speaker 2: who would be in the NBA from South Sudan.
Speaker 5: Think, well, you must have missed the exhibitions, because South
Speaker 5: Sudan was was one possession away from beating the US
Speaker 5: and the exhibitions last week of the week before, I
Speaker 5: think they were up fifteen at some point.
Speaker 3: So hey, you never know, you never know.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you if they if if the this
Speaker 2: collection of NBA All Stars were to lose to South Sudan,
Speaker 2: I just you know, I don't know. I mean, I
Speaker 2: have no idea what the population of South Sudan is,
Speaker 2: how prevalent basketball is there. But I'm going to have
Speaker 2: to do some research on that. The fencing teams from
Speaker 2: was at Harvard, they have, they have, you know, I
Speaker 2: guess some great fencing teams, and I think that if
Speaker 2: there's one young guy from Sherman, I think, is that Ethanowitz. Sorry, OK,
Speaker 2: I mean you just.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I was just saying that, you know, kids play soccer
Speaker 2: and Pop Warner and Little League and all of those,
Speaker 2: and you know basketball. But I mean, take up fencing
Speaker 2: at a young age and fall in love with this
Speaker 2: and you end up maybe on a medal stand and
Speaker 2: at the the Olympics.
Speaker 5: It's not bad, you know. Eli Derschwitz ended up he
Speaker 5: had a pretty rough go of it in Paris as
Speaker 5: he did in Tokyo. He went out i think in
Speaker 5: the round of thirty two yesterday in the in the
Speaker 5: men's saber, and you know, he won a world title
Speaker 5: in between those two things, but just couldn't piece it
Speaker 5: together at the Olympics. But some other members of that
Speaker 5: Harvard fencing team, in particular Lawrence Scruggs, you know, a
Speaker 5: rising senior at Harvard. I think she's twenty one years
Speaker 5: old from Queens, New York, and she won a silver
Speaker 5: medal in the in the women's spoil yesterday, which was,
Speaker 5: you know, absolutely remarkable to watch. And I think, you know,
Speaker 5: it hurts me to see people who are just you know,
Speaker 5: I'm twenty five, just four years younger than me, just
Speaker 5: winning Olympic silver medals. And she lost to Lee Kiefer,
Speaker 5: who is, you know, maybe the greatest American fencer of
Speaker 5: all time, who is also in medical school at the
Speaker 5: University of Kentucky. So some people are just accomplishing more
Speaker 5: than you and I are in this life, damp But
Speaker 5: that's okay.
Speaker 2: It's tough for us to deal with that. I got
Speaker 2: to tell you, I mean, I didn't realize that Eli
Speaker 2: was already out. I'm sad to hear that, because I mean,
Speaker 2: the Olympics just started. I mean to be out that quick.
Speaker 5: I did know it went by so quickly. Yeah, the
Speaker 5: fencing was like one of the very first events, and
Speaker 5: they go through it so fast like they It's kind
Speaker 5: of happens over like just two days right at the beginning,
Speaker 5: and you know, Loan Scruggs wasn't a round of sixteen
Speaker 5: match on Saturday, and suddenly she was in the final
Speaker 5: on Sunday afternoon. So it all moved, It all moved
Speaker 5: very very quickly.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: The other the other disappointment for me is to see
Speaker 2: baseball being it was put in as an Olympic sport
Speaker 2: and now it's been taken out as an Olympic sport.
Speaker 2: If I'm not.
Speaker 3: Mistaken, Yeah, no, you're right.
Speaker 5: I think it's set to come back in twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 5: and it had been gone for a while, but it.
Speaker 7: Just seems it kind of hinges.
Speaker 5: On whether the Olympics are being played in the country
Speaker 5: that's interested in baseball. The Japanese, i think specifically asked
Speaker 5: for it to come back in twenty twenty or in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, and the same thing will happen in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty eight in Los Angeles. But yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 5: it's been such a yo yo. It's seeing, it's out,
Speaker 5: it's in, it's out. It just can't seem to kind
Speaker 5: of hold down a permanent, a permanent spot in the Olympics.
Speaker 5: For whatever reason. I'm glad that we have the World
Speaker 5: Baseball Classic back in our lives to have a little
Speaker 5: bit of fun international baseball. I thought that was fantastic
Speaker 5: last year. But it's also you know, it's tricky when
Speaker 5: it's happening in the middle of the Major League Baseball
Speaker 5: season and they're not going to release players in the
Speaker 5: way that city NHL does for the Olympics.
Speaker 3: So it's it's tough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then of course we could have it could
Speaker 2: have been. We could have had it here twenty in
Speaker 2: this year. I mean, they could have run the marathon
Speaker 2: like on Route three or something like that in the morning.
Speaker 2: What I mean they could they could They could have
Speaker 2: had you know, some the swimming events in the Muddy River.
Speaker 2: This would have been. It would have been think about
Speaker 2: what we missed A mean toy. You got a good
Speaker 2: sense of humor I like that. I like that, so
Speaker 2: love to have you back here. Thanks very much. You're
Speaker 2: a young guy and you're making your way with the
Speaker 2: Boston Globe. Someday you'll be the publisher. I'm sure.
Speaker 5: Okay, hang in there, he'll take Thank you, Dan, I appreciate.
Speaker 3: You having me.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you having me with us a mean Tory.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. All Right, we get back. We
Speaker 2: are going to get to the to the the issues
Speaker 2: of the day. Our senior Senator Elizabeth Warren is talking
Speaker 2: about a pathway to citizenship for eleven million migrants. I
Speaker 2: think that's going to cause some different points of view,
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about it on the other side of
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