Speaker 1: My Billy Cunningham, the great American. Of course, one story
Speaker 1: that's kind of surprising and shocked many in the Tri
Speaker 1: State is what's happening in northern Kentucky. A condo there
Speaker 1: project which appears to be somewhat old, I'd say ten
Speaker 1: to twenty years or the residents were told on Friday
Speaker 1: to evacuated to an active landslide, and the residents of
Speaker 1: Woodland Hills condominium in Southgate don't know what to do
Speaker 1: and where to go. And of course, Todd Dykes, you
Speaker 1: talk about four horsemen of the apocalypse at Channel five.
Speaker 1: If you take Brian Hamrick and Karen Johnson and John
Speaker 1: London and Todd Dykes, those are the four horsemen of
Speaker 1: news apocalypse and Todd Dikes welcome again to the Bill
Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. Do you feel like you're part of a
Speaker 1: of a local news apocalypse at Channel five with those
Speaker 1: four horsemen of the apocalypse?
Speaker 2: What do you think? Well? That is how I praise
Speaker 2: to be group with those three colleagues. They're amazing and
Speaker 2: I'm grateful be along for the ride for sure. And
Speaker 2: I tell you, as you noted, Bill, this situation with
Speaker 2: this Condomanium complex just came out of the blue to
Speaker 2: a lot of the folks who live in the affected building,
Speaker 2: and certainly to me too, So covered it yesterday, and
Speaker 2: it's just a really difficult situation for sure.
Speaker 1: As far as locating it, is that by the old
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Supper Club. If you go up four seventy
Speaker 1: one coming out of the city, where is the Woodland
Speaker 1: Hills Condo?
Speaker 2: Where is that? Yeah, so it's in that vicinity for sure.
Speaker 2: You know, as you're heading south on four seventy one,
Speaker 2: I think it's And I travel this way a lot
Speaker 2: because I live in in northern Kentucky, maybe a half
Speaker 2: mile a mile a mile or so south on four
Speaker 2: seventy one before you get to the two seventy five split,
Speaker 2: So it's in Southgate. You know, you're you're you're peeling
Speaker 2: off the four seventy one. It's close to Jeff Wiler
Speaker 2: Chrysler Dodge Jeep dealership, and yeah, so it's and it's
Speaker 2: a place I'd never been before. So you know, always
Speaker 2: say to people when I'm covering new stories of if
Speaker 2: I've never been there, that's probably a good sign because
Speaker 2: nothing bad. But that's not the case here, unfortunately. For
Speaker 2: these property owners.
Speaker 1: Well, talk about tell us about sanitation District number one.
Speaker 1: I know on the Kentuki. I guess they were developing
Speaker 1: an expansion of the sewer project south of one of
Speaker 1: the condo buildings, which is a good thing. Nonetheless, how
Speaker 1: did this start yet?
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing yesterday and the reporting that
Speaker 2: I that I did it noted that it looks incredibly serene.
Speaker 2: It was a very peaceful afternoon. You know, it rained
Speaker 2: a little bit after as we were there, off and on,
Speaker 2: as it was doing elsewhere. But so, you know, you
Speaker 2: look at it, it's it I liken it to. It's
Speaker 2: a condominium complex, but more kind to apartments in some ways.
Speaker 2: But these individual owners have their condos inside this building
Speaker 2: number thirty. That's a collective building. It's twenty eight, thirty
Speaker 2: and thirty two. And those are the folks who were
Speaker 2: told that they, you know, advise any to leave on
Speaker 2: Friday night. They're getting this letter at their door or
Speaker 2: by being notified in person, and so maybe gosh, thirty
Speaker 2: forty fifty feet on the back side of the building,
Speaker 2: there's a slope that goes down a little hill side
Speaker 2: and then you see a lot of so obviously that's
Speaker 2: where the sewer line project has been going in to
Speaker 2: try to you know, have better flow or whatnot from
Speaker 2: Sanitation District one of Northern Kentucky. And that's the agency
Speaker 2: that handles wastewater and stormwater for the counties in Northern Kentucky.
Speaker 2: So you know, you can see where the work had
Speaker 2: been done or because there's a grass seed down and
Speaker 2: all the hay and the light, so that clearly the
Speaker 2: neighbors are arguing, and there's been a class action laws
Speaker 2: we filed this morning by an attorney based in Covington,
Speaker 2: arguing that the work that was done by Sanitation District
Speaker 2: one cruise somehow calls the ground to shift. And now
Speaker 2: that the language that I'm reading is that there was
Speaker 2: an active landslide happening both behind on this kind of
Speaker 2: the sloping hillside heading down toward that project and under
Speaker 2: this building thirty. So you know, you look at it
Speaker 2: and you think everything looks completely fine, but clearly you
Speaker 2: get inside some of the units and you see cracks.
Speaker 2: We saw a floor that was basically separating, you know,
Speaker 2: two or three inch crack, and you see some bowed walls,
Speaker 2: warped walls, and so forth. So it is Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: not a good situation for the for the folks that
Speaker 2: owned those condos, and.
Speaker 1: Todd Dykes should Channel five. And it looks like these
Speaker 1: condos are worth two fifty to three hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. They look like apartment buildings, but they converted
Speaker 1: to condos with all the fees that might be involved
Speaker 1: with that. So this is not Charlwick. This is a
Speaker 1: middle class to upper middle class area and the place
Speaker 1: looks very safe and very secure. So you observed cracks
Speaker 1: and separating floors, many of the issues the neighbors. And
Speaker 1: then before we get to the sanitation district and maybe
Speaker 1: their several responsibilities, how were the residents notified that they
Speaker 1: should evacuate their own homes? How'd that happen?
Speaker 2: Well, that was yeah, that was one of the things
Speaker 2: that seemed so startling. There was a gentleman that we
Speaker 2: interviewed yesterday, Greg Marshall, very nice man. He and his
Speaker 2: wife and ironically, if that's the right word, they had
Speaker 2: just paid off their mortgage a few weeks ago, so
Speaker 2: that only added to their to spare. So he said,
Speaker 2: you know that they came home on Friday night where
Speaker 2: they had been. They came home to a letter on
Speaker 2: their door, and so like old fashioned ways, you know, hey,
Speaker 2: you need to leave. That were at least advising if
Speaker 2: it wasn't an order, but you know, and he said,
Speaker 2: he made the comment to me, it's like Friday night.
Speaker 2: What Who's going to help figure this out? This is
Speaker 2: kind of wild. So clearly a lot of folks stayed
Speaker 2: there were I did talk so and it seems like
Speaker 2: so if you think of this building all, all the
Speaker 2: twenty thirty thirty two, they're in one building, thirty is
Speaker 2: the middle part that seems to be the most affected.
Speaker 2: And there was a woman yesterday who told me, and
Speaker 2: she the comment on the story that was on Channel five.
Speaker 2: You know, she said, I've been crying and crying and
Speaker 2: crying for the last several days, and her anxiety was
Speaker 2: through the roof. She said that there have been people
Speaker 2: in that unit who left on Saturday because they were
Speaker 2: so concerned. And if I can look at my notes,
Speaker 2: she made a comment like the one of our neighbors
Speaker 2: said they were looking down from her window and it
Speaker 2: had separated or something. And I'm very quickly, oh gosh,
Speaker 2: they woke up this quote. They woke up and their
Speaker 2: window is actually disconnecting from their wall. And this was
Speaker 2: and so they moved out either Saturday or Sunday, but
Speaker 2: they quickly bolted premises. But others, you know, they were
Speaker 2: really like, what do we do? So I will say
Speaker 2: on that front, and I think it's important to note
Speaker 2: I had a conversation with Sanitation District number one communications
Speaker 2: director Chris Cole. Had known Chris for a while, used
Speaker 2: to work at NKU, an honest broker. Chris, you know,
Speaker 2: faced the cameras and just said, you know, we know
Speaker 2: that there will be issues on down the road, but
Speaker 2: the most important thing from their advantage point, according to Chris,
Speaker 2: was to make sure those residents were able to relocate
Speaker 2: to safety and without a financial hardship. So, you know,
Speaker 2: and in trying to identify all the needs. If you
Speaker 2: have pets, do you have eighty eight compliance issues, et cetera. So,
Speaker 2: and the one thing that I would just I'm filling
Speaker 2: this out there if they are residents still that haven't
Speaker 2: heard this. And it's interesting in today's time and age,
Speaker 2: if you get an unknown phone number, you want to
Speaker 2: answer that number. If you're living this building thirty that's
Speaker 2: the collective known as Building thirty because it's not spam.
Speaker 2: It hopefully as a relocation specialist that can help with
Speaker 2: the process of moving somewhere else temporarily.
Speaker 1: Here's a big question, Todd, do show you're ready for
Speaker 1: the big question? Fire Away Bill Sanitation District number one
Speaker 1: of Northern Kentucky SDI one. Have they said we will
Speaker 1: take responsibility, it is our problem. We'll make everybody whole again?
Speaker 1: Have they said that yet?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that. That language, you know is
Speaker 2: obviously a fairly quick interview yesterday, just to understand what
Speaker 2: was happening and so forth. I will stay and I'm
Speaker 2: looking at my notes very quickly. They don't think this
Speaker 2: is going to be a month and months and months
Speaker 2: type situation. Maybe a month or two to stabilize, put
Speaker 2: some kind of a pier wall to support the ground
Speaker 2: that shifted, and get everything back in working order for
Speaker 2: the folks hopefully to come back. Now, the repair work
Speaker 2: inside these condo units and everybody's identifying things all a
Speaker 2: metal take, I have you know who knows, so you
Speaker 2: know it's one of those I think that's prioritizing the
Speaker 2: immediacy of the issue at hand and then let the
Speaker 2: cards fallow where they may un down the line. Tender
Speaker 2: will certainly be covering built for sure, So this.
Speaker 1: Might be millions and millions and millions of dollars if
Speaker 1: you have to either clear. And then at this point
Speaker 1: here we sit on on Tuesday afternoon, thinking Okay, life
Speaker 1: is good. I look at the story of this one
Speaker 1: guy who just paid off a student loan debt and
Speaker 1: he celebrated by getting out a debt of his student loans.
Speaker 1: So what he did then was by a condo in
Speaker 1: this project in November, and he's being told now to leave.
Speaker 1: He's got a cat. It's hard to find a hotel
Speaker 1: room that'll take a cat. And he said, I have
Speaker 1: no family in the area to move to. And he
Speaker 1: finds a letter from wood Lamping on the doormat when
Speaker 1: he took his trash out on Wednesday. And I imagine
Speaker 1: the private law firm has found a deep pocket in
Speaker 1: the sewer district to go after. But I would think
Speaker 1: I'm thinking on behalf of the district. Can someone prove
Speaker 1: it was their work and their work alone that caused
Speaker 1: the slippage? Was there some other failure?
Speaker 2: Well? And it's interesting in reading the class action suit
Speaker 2: that was filed this morning. Under the facts header, it says,
Speaker 2: upon information of belief the defendants of undertaking a project
Speaker 2: note as quote phase two of the Licking River Siphon
Speaker 2: Conveyence upsizing project. That's quite a bureaucratic title. Adjacent to
Speaker 2: the planet's properties. And then it goes on to talk
Speaker 2: about conducted set excavation and other earth moving activities in
Speaker 2: a negligent and improper manner and consistent with industry standards,
Speaker 2: you know, et cetera, et cetera. But this is just
Speaker 2: in a lawsuit. These are just allegations and assertions, as
Speaker 2: you know. So, yeah, I'm reading language about sub adjacent
Speaker 2: and a removal of lateral and subjacent and support and
Speaker 2: actually looked at a YouTube video. I'm like, what does
Speaker 2: that mean? But yeah, so this is going to be
Speaker 2: a high level lawyering and you know, excavation experts getting
Speaker 2: into court room.
Speaker 1: I think you know Todd Dyson Channel five, I could say,
Speaker 1: millions and millions of dollars, and the lawyers for the
Speaker 1: Metropolitan for the School for the Sewardness. You're gonna say,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that wasn't us, that was somebody else.
Speaker 1: When you buy a home, on a hill these things.
Speaker 1: I bet they have experts on both sides. The experts
Speaker 1: will fight it out in court with expensive lawyers, and
Speaker 1: who pays for all.
Speaker 2: That well, and I will say, Bill, I think it's
Speaker 2: important just to get a visualization for your listeners. I
Speaker 2: thought maybe it would be like out on fifty East
Speaker 2: and the hillside issues that that he has with these hills.
Speaker 2: That early car it's been precariously located right on the
Speaker 2: edge of it, almost like a cliff. It's not that,
Speaker 2: it's just, you know, it's a building that looks like
Speaker 2: it's been there for many years, and it's just this
Speaker 2: gentle rolling kind of a sloping downward hillside, you know,
Speaker 2: in the then it goes into some shrubbery, wooded type area.
Speaker 2: So you know, it wasn't like this, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: you should never have been built here. It seemed pretty
Speaker 2: normal to me, you know. So, But to your point,
Speaker 2: I mean, I told a lot of the folks I
Speaker 2: talked to yesterday, said, yeah, I live in Northern Kentucky,
Speaker 2: emerate payer, and you know, s you one of has
Speaker 2: always been seemingly a outstanding agency, I guess if you
Speaker 2: will so, But now you know it's going to probably
Speaker 2: coustant pain points in some pocketbooks all over the northern
Speaker 2: Kentucky region. If, however, this thing shakes out, we shall see.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that Chris is a good guy. But
Speaker 1: when the lawyers get involved on the sanitation district, you
Speaker 1: may be looking at tens of millions of dollars of damages. Yet,
Speaker 1: and I would assume these condos have no value at
Speaker 1: this point. Who who could list their condo and say yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll buy that. And they were selling their two fifty
Speaker 1: and that's not going to happen.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. You you empathize so much, just
Speaker 2: property rights and so forth, and you're like, gosh, just
Speaker 2: the name recognition and the reporting on it and all that.
Speaker 2: And I was so grateful. Everybody was really lovely yesterday,
Speaker 2: very kind, you know, And yet I'm also gosh, if
Speaker 2: this from my house, and this the fell out mentioned earlier,
Speaker 2: the mister Marshall, he said they loved that place and
Speaker 2: and just now this and it's like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So it's you know, you just empathize a lot with
Speaker 2: anybody in this situation. Hopefully they get to the bottom
Speaker 2: of it, they fix it, people get back in and
Speaker 2: this just be comes yesterday's news. But you know that goes.
Speaker 2: We'll be on it for a while. It's it's just unfortunate.
Speaker 1: Thanks gret. I couldn't live in a place that was
Speaker 1: slipping down the hill. And yeah, I couldn't. I look
Speaker 1: at those homes when you come over the big Mac Bridge,
Speaker 1: look up on your right. I see these beautiful million
Speaker 1: dollar homes built on a cliff. And you're saying, this
Speaker 1: is not that circumstance.
Speaker 2: It's not. It's not that circumstance, thankfully. So you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're from the letters that I've seen
Speaker 2: in the language from the engineering you know, the engineer
Speaker 2: who filed the report, whose report was included with a
Speaker 2: letter that residents got or property owners got on Friday night,
Speaker 2: talked about contacting a peer wall contractor immediately to be
Speaker 2: engaged to get this thing going out. But it said
Speaker 2: a may quote and may take some time for the
Speaker 2: contractors to become available and the equipment to the site.
Speaker 2: You know, so the parts are moving. But you know,
Speaker 2: now you're into the land of construction experts and are
Speaker 2: they available and get them out asapp And yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just yeah, like I say, I think the word is
Speaker 2: just sort of disheartening, and you hate that this has happened.
Speaker 2: And these are really nice people who liked where they
Speaker 2: lived and now they're having to deal with all the
Speaker 2: headaches are relocating. And you know, you mentioned a fellow
Speaker 2: who had the cat I talked to the world yesterday,
Speaker 2: had five cats. She and her daughter live in have
Speaker 2: one of the units, and you know, she's like, what
Speaker 2: am I going to do with these cats? Who's going
Speaker 2: to so? But but I will say Chris did with
Speaker 2: f st One said. Those are all the kinds of
Speaker 2: things that the compliant or the relocation folks are trying
Speaker 2: to assess. So hopefully there will be places for people
Speaker 2: to get to rather quickly and you know, get settled
Speaker 2: as best they can.
Speaker 1: Todd Diykes will be watching tonight The Power of Five.
Speaker 1: Todd Diykes one of the horsemen of the Apocalypse, along
Speaker 1: with John London and Carrie Johnson and of course, of
Speaker 1: course the great Brian Hemery can We'll see what happens
Speaker 1: down the road. But this is an unbelievable story. No
Speaker 1: one did anything wrong and suddenly their life is in
Speaker 1: a paper bag. Shook up. The lawyers are involved, the
Speaker 1: engineers are involved, the Serra districts involved, plasters, dry walls,
Speaker 1: here we go, and now the wood lampings involved. Lawyer
Speaker 1: up and see what happens. Todd Diykes once again, great
Speaker 1: reporting and thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Todd Well.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the opportunity, and again you know you feel
Speaker 2: for everybody involved here. Hopefully they get it figured out quickly.
Speaker 2: So have a good afternoon, Bill, good to talk to you.
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