WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.120 --> 00:00:04.360 Disclaimer. We'd like to know before the start of this 2 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:06.960 interview that the opinions about to be expressed by the 3 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:10.160 guest of tonight's Getting Salty Experience Podcast are that of 4 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:13.160 the guest and do not directly or necessarily reflect the 5 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:17.440 views of the host of the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 6 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:34.799 You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 7 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:46.439 Hello, Hello, twenty one truck teleman joining us in the 8 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:49.119 chat again tonight. The little guy gotten missed it for 9 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:51.119 a while, Now he's back. Welcome back to the Getting 10 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:53.640 Salty Experience Podcast. You only want to bring to the 11 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:58.920 fire house kitchen table to you. Ruffy's got the grizzly Adams. 12 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:03.000 Look going on. Bro Gonzos ten, me too. 13 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:09.840 Just came back from Mexico. Baby, Yeah, straight face on 14 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:10.239 the beach. 15 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:13.359 Straight what to you putting? 16 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:17.879 Yeah, well you got your picture. I'm not too uh, 17 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:20.400 I'm not a barrass of this, but you know, at 18 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:22.840 one point I did black out on a beach chair 19 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.719 and uh, first, as you can see, first you put 20 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:28.719 it in my mouth, then it was on my shoulder, 21 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:30.359 then he stuck it in my nose, and then you 22 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:32.799 put it on my I never felt the thing. Bro 23 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:35.799 out for two hours, woke up there was nobody there. 24 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:39.599 Oblivious when you go for the colonsay, that's that's how 25 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:41.319 you felt, right, Oh yeah. 26 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:43.879 Yep, what we've done already woast Yeah. 27 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:46.959 My daughter says, Dad, is that straight vacua in that gliss? 28 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.159 I'm like, yep, And that's the last thing I remember 29 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:53.480 that was it? Good times? But you know when you're 30 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:55.760 away your son and your daughter and they can drink 31 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:58.040 now and you can do that bonding time, bro, you know, 32 00:01:58.840 --> 00:01:59.799 and the little guys and the. 33 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:03.079 Pull alcohol and family, it's always good. 34 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:07.280 Always good. My sister came with kaids good time, good 35 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:08.400 time to be had by all. 36 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:09.360 Yeah? 37 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:09.960 Is it me? 38 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:10.280 Or is? 39 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:14.000 When Mikey's reading that disclaimer, he sounds like he's just 40 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.520 like exhausted almost like when he's reading. 41 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:18.759 It he's busy again. Man, you know, he's very He's. 42 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:22.280 Like, he's like the thoughts and of of our guests 43 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.520 are not of that getting this all the experience. 44 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:31.240 And maybe he was, you know up late, you know 45 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:34.560 what I'm saying. Where was he? He wasn't in it. 46 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:36.719 He wasn't in the pre show tonight. Where is he tonight? 47 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:38.639 No? No, he's been on the hiatus, as he says, 48 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:41.840 he's he's on hiatus now. I don't know what he's 49 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:43.120 doing right now. 50 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:45.280 He's in the three four corner doing something, you know, 51 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:46.439 overhaul or something. 52 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:49.080 Right, isn't he doing? Is he on the driver? Nah? 53 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:50.800 Not yet. He didn't go on the academy yet. 54 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:52.400 Nope, he's still waking. 55 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:53.879 How was your cruise? Guns? 56 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:56.919 It was actually it was actually pretty good. My wife 57 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:00.400 gets some feedback now on the face book, and a 58 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:02.960 bunch of people got COVID. So think I didn't. 59 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:07.960 I mean throat is that still around Trump's at office? COVID? 60 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:11.400 I'll still think? Yeah, but all all is good? I 61 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:12.840 mean one of these guys, one of the guys will 62 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:13.120 joined me. 63 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:16.199 He went on the upside down Pineapple cruise, right, that's where. 64 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:19.919 On every cruise. That's the sign. 65 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:23.159 He's Did you get the JAB? 66 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:27.120 No, I don't mean that jab. 67 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:27.719 I mean. 68 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:30.000 COVID shot. 69 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:33.560 No, No, that's what he meant. I met the other jab. 70 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:36.159 Oh you know what I mean? You know, you. 71 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.280 Know there's always a little something like hey, you know, 72 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:40.360 we gotta be careful because they can hear you next door. 73 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:41.919 Who cares? 74 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:42.039 All? 75 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:42.319 Right? 76 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.879 Quiet, It's a place of commercials. We have to get 77 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:49.759 the cap kept you tolling in here? Yes, I mean 78 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:53.120 so rough is uh. He officially got his fifteen point 79 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:55.240 I told him today the rest of his gravy, bro 80 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:57.719 he's going to Illinois or whatever like. He let him 81 00:03:57.759 --> 00:03:59.759 pass him right up. You know, if he gets a 82 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:01.439 little tire and his I will lump in his throat 83 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.240 and he doesn't want to kill somebody, I'll let this 84 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:04.599 one go. 85 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:07.639 You know, was a buddy of mine. What's hot dogs? 86 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:10.919 So I gotta I gotta, oh Brown, If you don't 87 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:12.639 have enough, you better kill something else because I need 88 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:14.840 some hot hot dogs. 89 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:16.360 I got you all right? 90 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:19.040 All right, We're gonna check out on new ad have 91 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:19.439 a new air. 92 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:21.279 We got a new sponsor. Love these guys. 93 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:23.399 These guys will do some good work. 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Well here it 159 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:14.680 is coefficient. Didn't I tell you to edit that part out? 160 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:21.600 Yes? I was. 161 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:23.720 By the way, the guys from Capitol Helmet. That guy 162 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:28.160 has his own towel Procachine around Procaccino was driving that 163 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:29.160 thing like he stole it. 164 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:32.559 Broy call him up. Tell him you code salty. You 165 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:36.200 want to ride to your next U dinner with your wife? 166 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:40.759 Yeah, listen with Vince too. Did you see the logos free? 167 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:42.080 You get it? You get it in your fire house. 168 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:44.159 He gives you all the logos on the floor for free. 169 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:48.840 That's right, fireman's favorite word. Free. All right, let's go 170 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:50.080 if you bring the man in here? 171 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:50.919 All right? 172 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:51.320 You ready? 173 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:52.720 Guns, Yes, let's do this. 174 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:53.559 All right? 175 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:57.720 Coming to the stage, our longtime friend F D n 176 00:08:57.840 --> 00:08:58.919 Y Captain Timmy Grant. 177 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:11.759 Well, what are you sipping on over there? Cape cap? 178 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:13.159 What do you got there? What are you sipping on? 179 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.200 I can't hear you. Oh that's a little bourbon, that's 180 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:16.879 a little. 181 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:18.679 Burb What you got? 182 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:23.720 I got a little red breast robin redbreast Irish whiskey 183 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:24.639 from my Irish friend. 184 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:27.320 That's not because they've been smacked around a little bit. 185 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:31.759 But I'm six, I'm out. I'm going through with girls 186 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:36.279 right now. I can't drink another thing. I swear. I 187 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:38.360 thought about it when he raised that glass before the 188 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:39.600 captain like, oh man, that was good. 189 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:42.879 I can't do it. I got more poison in my 190 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:43.480 body than you. 191 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:48.720 Yeah, shaking, Let's get patriotic before you dive into the 192 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:49.480 captain's career. 193 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:50.440 There we go. 194 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:57.200 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 195 00:09:57.480 --> 00:10:01.159 of America and to the report public, for which it 196 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:09.919 stands One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice 197 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:10.559 for all. 198 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:22.919 And there you go. So before we get started with 199 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.000 the captain's career, I'm gonna throw this out to the chat. 200 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:29.080 I want them to play detective tonight and maybe they 201 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:33.360 can take two things and figure out how they go together. 202 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:35.919 I'm not going to say, but the first one in 203 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.840 the chat to say, maybe how Captain Grant maybe got 204 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:43.200 some places that he got. You put the two things 205 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:45.879 together and you say it up out of the chat, 206 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:49.600 and we'll send you some free stickers that you got. No, 207 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:56.039 not even that. No, no, no, Well anyway, cat, welcome 208 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:57.320 to this ridiculous show. 209 00:10:57.320 --> 00:10:59.200 Thanks for coming on, Thank you, thank you. 210 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:02.320 Let's uh, let's go back to the early days of 211 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:05.159 the Grants. Where are you, where you're born, where you're from? 212 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:07.679 What's the family like family life back then? 213 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:13.360 Well, Uh, my father claims that the whole planet is 214 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:17.919 originally from the Bronx. I'm sure there's a lot of 215 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:21.279 Brooklyn people that would think differently. But I was actually 216 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:25.519 born in Manhattan. My mother lived in the Bronx. But 217 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:28.159 then right after I was born, we moved up to Carmel. 218 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:31.639 So I grew up in Carmel, New York. It's about 219 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:33.919 an hour north of the city. I think a lot 220 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.159 of you guys know Carmel. Some people say Carmel, but 221 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:39.279 people that live in Carmel say Carmel. 222 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:42.440 Carmel. Yeah, Carmel is that close to you. 223 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:50.600 But he went to school with Yo, it's my cousin Yrdies. 224 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:54.639 Oh right, yeah. We went to Jamie Yeah, yeah, yeah, 225 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:56.960 Jamie was closer to my age, and then I think 226 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:58.320 Mike was maybe two. 227 00:11:58.320 --> 00:11:59.519 Or three, a couple of years old. 228 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:03.159 Yeah, yeah, yep, yep. We figured that out one day 229 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:07.279 when we were sitting there bs and right, yes, yeah, yeah, 230 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:12.519 So your father was from the Bronx then, yeah, parents, Well, well, 231 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.519 my whole family is originally from the Bronx. I mean 232 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:19.840 before Ireland originally, but then everybody was in the Bronx. 233 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:24.240 And but uh yeah, I went to Carmel High School. 234 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:28.360 Family, brothers and sisters. 235 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:32.720 I have one. I got one brother who's on the job. 236 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:36.559 He's he's still working. He's he's a little bit younger. 237 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:40.120 He's five years younger than me. He was in forty 238 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:43.000 seven forty seven engine, then he went to one thirteen 239 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:46.320 trucks as a lieutenant. Now he's in the Marine division. 240 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.480 Now whole family. 241 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:56.639 Was data fireman, no nor fire department. 242 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:00.480 I knew nothing about the fire far I mean, absolutely 243 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:02.639 zero about the fire debarm. When I when I was 244 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:05.360 in high school, my friend Vinnie came into school with 245 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:08.799 all the applications for everybody, you know, and there was 246 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:11.159 like twelve of us that went down and took the 247 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:14.759 test together. And uh, you know, if you look back 248 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:16.720 in time, now was I was the only one that 249 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.080 took the fire department. Vinnie became a Putnam County Sheriff, 250 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:24.440 and I was the only guy that became a farreman. 251 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:27.360 But I knew, I mean, and when I was in 252 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:30.240 Proby school, you could tell I knew nothing. Man, I 253 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:33.519 was just absolutely clueless about the. 254 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:36.480 Entire I think our our careers I was when he 255 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:39.799 sent me his timeline. Our career is pretty mirrored. Like 256 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:41.919 he got on just I think he got on the 257 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:42.600 class after me. 258 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:43.639 He got on. I got out. 259 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:48.360 Did you have Kiaren Browsan in your class? 260 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:51.919 Yes, Karen sat next to me. He was the three truck. Yes, 261 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:53.879 I remember that seventy five. Yeah he was, he was 262 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:54.720 the seventy five with me. 263 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:57.120 Yeah, he sat right next to me. Good friend of mine. 264 00:13:57.320 --> 00:13:58.639 How did he get the thirty three truck? 265 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:05.519 Just you know, we don't know anything. We don't know that, we. 266 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:05.879 Don't know that. 267 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:08.559 Remember that, I've never done this before. 268 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.679 Yeah, so did that have a broken everything? Was he 269 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:14.039 right from Ireland? 270 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:15.000 That? 271 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:17.120 Did your dad speak with a Brogan every? 272 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:17.360 No? 273 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:19.519 No, no, no, my dad's not from Ireland. No, his 274 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:22.519 his parents from Ireland, all right, both to his parents. 275 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:27.120 So I'm actually in the process of getting my Irish 276 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:29.039 citizenship now because. 277 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:31.000 All the time, I mean since I know him, he's 278 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:33.279 been going Uh really yeah, I. 279 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:36.039 Go along a part of Ireland. 280 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:41.360 I go all over Ireland. I mean I have to. 281 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:44.559 I'll text text you a picture. Well I had just 282 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:47.360 had a just did up a whole map of all 283 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.879 the pubs I've been to and uh, my last trip, 284 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:53.320 I just celebrated one hundred and fiftieth pub in Ireland. 285 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:57.080 Crap, that's some pub crawl, man. 286 00:14:57.240 --> 00:14:59.639 You always you always get a Guinness, you always get 287 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:00.120 at it. 288 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:03.720 There, Tim, you always get a guinness when you go there. 289 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:09.559 Oh yeah, so much better over there. It really does. 290 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:11.159 I don't know if it's in my head or what, 291 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:14.639 but it does so good when it touches your lips. 292 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.960 If any of my Irish buddies are listening on this, 293 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:21.960 they're gonna be a saying, of course it's better. Of 294 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:24.360 course it's better, exactly alright. 295 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:26.799 So ninety three, what were you doing before you got 296 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:27.320 on the job. 297 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:32.720 Uh So, right after high school I went to I 298 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:37.039 went to Courtland. Uh for five years. I finally got out. 299 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:41.840 That's like jail. No, that was not jail. That was 300 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:46.120 not jail. I love. So I went to Courtland. And 301 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:49.320 then after Courtland, uh, me and a bunch of guys 302 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:52.200 went out to the Hampton's for the summer. I got 303 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:54.440 a house out there. As soon as the summer was over, 304 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:57.320 I went out to Vail to ski for the winter. 305 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:00.879 And and while I was out there, they I got 306 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:04.279 the call to that they call you. The first thing 307 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:06.840 they do right before you get hired is the psychological right. 308 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:09.279 Is that when they do the psychologist correct I have. 309 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:12.519 I'm having a lot of issues with remember and stuff sometimes. 310 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:17.240 But yeah, so they may the psychologic crawl to the Yeah, 311 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:24.639 that was so I got called back for the psychological 312 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:27.919 and I took that psychological test. That was actually interesting 313 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.200 because you know, you you remember that thing, right, it's 314 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:32.080 like seven hundred questions, but there's only like. 315 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:37.519 Yeah, five ye, fifty million times, fifty bun times. 316 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.240 So so just as a as a you know, prior 317 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:43.480 to me even getting on a fire depart when I 318 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:45.399 was in high school, we used to we used to 319 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:49.519 go to these this trestle by a reservoir and we jump, 320 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:51.879 you know, in the summertime, we would jump off into 321 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:53.519 the water and you know, you used to have to 322 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:58.279 climb up really high. And one of these psychological questions 323 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:01.759 was do you like to jump from places? I'm reading 324 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:03.639 this like, all right, I'm going to be a fireman, 325 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:06.079 and they're asking me I'm afraid of heights, Like that's 326 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:08.480 how I was taking it. So I answered, yes, I 327 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:10.599 like to jump from places. 328 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:16.160 So they met on the concrete like from a fifty 329 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:16.839 story building. 330 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:18.359 Off yourself. 331 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:22.880 So I get called back for a second psychologist then 332 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:25.079 calling back and they're like, so you like to jump 333 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:28.480 from my places? I had to explain that, you know 334 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:30.799 what what I uh, I used to do because we 335 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.920 used to do that a lot because right by where 336 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:36.759 I lived, it was, you know, it was you had 337 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:41.519 to you had uh, lakes that had big heights, diving 338 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:45.920 rocks that you could jump off of. So we were 339 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.240 always doing that growing up as kids. So I took 340 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:49.319 the question the wrong way. 341 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:51.039 You read into the question. 342 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:57.359 First learning thing and taking a fire Department test. 343 00:17:58.359 --> 00:18:05.880 Flying to anybody. Any notables in your Probo class with you? 344 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:06.880 Uh? 345 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:12.079 Yeah, I had. I had Bronco. It was Bronco. Uh, 346 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:17.640 Maddie Long, Uh, Jimmy Brosie. Jimmy Brosi was my Uh. 347 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:19.839 We shared the locker right next to you. The only 348 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:22.599 thing I remember about Proby School, and this is no joke. 349 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:25.960 I don't remember anything about Brob School. I remember is laughing. 350 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:30.000 All I did was laugh and and Jimmy Brosie made 351 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:32.559 me laugh constantly. That guy was so funny. 352 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:35.559 Uh. The soccer mono out there when you were there. 353 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:38.960 Yeah, but Junkin was my favorite guy out there. 354 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:39.599 Nick Junkin. 355 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:41.319 Yeah, he was freaking awesome. 356 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:48.759 He was great. The little guys, Yeah, he was good. 357 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:50.119 He was great. 358 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:55.720 Uh. I'm trying to think who else from my Proby class. Uh, 359 00:18:55.759 --> 00:19:04.319 you know, Mike Caine, Chris Jensen, Chris Burreck. Uh, those 360 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:06.720 are the guys that I kept in touch with over 361 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:07.079 the is. 362 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:10.119 So you're going there, you know absolutely nothing, And they 363 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:11.240 picked that out right. 364 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:13.920 Away, like I knew nothing. I knew, I knew nothing. 365 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.319 But you know, you just you just close your mouth 366 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:18.640 and you know, right, all. 367 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:21.599 Right, So here comes to I knew was gont. 368 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:25.640 Go ahead? Go ahead? 369 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:29.000 How in God's name for a guy who knows nothing? 370 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:33.519 Who his friend Vinnie gave him a cheat sheet? Goes 371 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.240 to seventy five engine at a Proby school. 372 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:41.240 Forget about it. My father worked My father had a 373 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:43.839 friend of his that worked out at the gym with 374 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:46.920 Mike Everett, and I gotta. 375 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:50.559 Mike Everett was the connection, one of my favorite guys, 376 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:51.640 cat memory. 377 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:53.480 And and you know what it's it's the way it 378 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:55.799 worked out. I went, I went to seventy five and 379 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:58.799 he was in thirty three. Uh. He got promoted a 380 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:01.960 couple of years after I was there, and then we 381 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:04.240 worked together back in forty one. I was a lieutenant 382 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:05.519 there he was, he was captain. 383 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:06.640 What a guy? 384 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:08.559 Didn't you go to forty four to though? 385 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:11.200 Like I was the best story ever, that was the 386 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:13.559 best story ever. He's like, I was beating thirty three, 387 00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:16.000 and then he's like, where I would kill people when 388 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:18.039 I was at thirty three with thirty three or nothing. 389 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:19.720 Then I get promoted. 390 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:22.039 I go over to forty four, which was the arch enemy, right, 391 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:24.839 and now I'll run thirty three off the road. 392 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:25.119 Right. 393 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:28.640 It's like the best. 394 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:31.440 Oh, it's the best story ever. Yeah, it's so true. 395 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:35.119 Wherever you're at, and you know, you know Shakey Kevin 396 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:38.640 o'han he's in the pipe band. He I think he 397 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:42.480 used to drive ever Crazy Ever called. I think Everyett 398 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:44.279 was working in the engine one day. I might have 399 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:46.200 this story wrong, but I think he was working in 400 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:48.960 the engine one day and they needed the suction. Uh 401 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:50.839 you know it was an EMS run and they needed 402 00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:58.839 the suction and Kevin walked up with the suction. I 403 00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:03.880 might have that story. He's going his mouth, this is 404 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:05.119 the stuff I forget. 405 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:07.000 So you get over to seventy five. 406 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:10.279 What was it like walking in at a first day? 407 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:14.119 You know what, I'll remember, I'm coming out of Provy school, 408 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:16.000 you last day, and you're going to visit the firehouse 409 00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:18.279 for the first time. And I remember coming down, I 410 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:20.799 remember driving down the concourse, and I knew that area 411 00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:23.359 of the Bronx because that's where my grandmother lived. So 412 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:27.720 I'm driving down the concourse and seventy five engineers going 413 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:30.880 the opposite way, flying on a run, and I see 414 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:35.119 the American flag flying behind the rig, and it just 415 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:37.440 I was like, wow, that's where I'm working. I know, 416 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:39.920 it's just something about the flag. And at that time, 417 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:43.079 I'm fairly sure that's the only rig that had the 418 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:46.599 American flag flying behind it. It wasn't that wasn't a 419 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:50.000 thing right it Actually it became it became a thing 420 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:54.559 they actually were trying to I don't know if it 421 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:57.279 was when I first went to seventy five, if Jerry 422 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:00.480 Hall was the captain, and then Dennis Devon became captain. 423 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:03.519 Dennis Devin passed nine to eleven, but Dennis was the 424 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:06.960 captain and he was ordered by one of the days 425 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:09.440 I'm not going to say anything, get off right. He 426 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:13.240 was ordered to take it off. And everybody they said 427 00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:16.720 it was improper display of the American flag. But I remember, Dennis, 428 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:20.279 do you remember that? So Dennis actually went to some 429 00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:25.039 like National I don't know if it's the VFW or 430 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:28.279 he went to some organization that would know the rules 431 00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:31.440 for that, and he came back that it was it 432 00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:35.559 was being displayed properly. And then you saw a flag. 433 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:38.559 I remember when I was at Once seventeen. I remember 434 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:41.079 when we put that rig on. We had two little 435 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:43.519 ones that were on the handholds in the back, and 436 00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:46.440 I remember every time you would come back, like one 437 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:48.119 would you know, over time, a couple of weeks, it 438 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:49.720 would fall, you know, get ripped or something, and we 439 00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:52.079 would put new ones on there all the time after that. 440 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:54.720 I remember, I loved it, man, I mean, it was 441 00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:56.759 the first time I ever seeing seventy five. I don't know, 442 00:22:56.839 --> 00:22:58.519 but I don't even know where I'm going, you know, 443 00:22:58.599 --> 00:23:01.680 I'm driving. We didn't have GPS back then, Like okay, 444 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:03.759 one hundred and eighty third Street, I make it right here, 445 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:05.880 you know. I never went south to briggs Am, and 446 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:09.240 you know that's where where my grandmother lived. 447 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:12.640 They just recently had that again when they forced the 448 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:14.839 companies to take that off the rate like with. 449 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:16.079 I don't know if that was true. 450 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:19.160 It was the blue line flag, I think or something, 451 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:21.079 and it was oh yeah, yeah, sumptionnantis. 452 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:23.160 I don't know if that was entirely true. 453 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:25.160 The post had in the newspaper. 454 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:27.480 Yeah, I don't know if that was entirely. 455 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:32.839 Right. So you walk in the firehouse and who was there? 456 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:33.519 Who the first guy? 457 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:36.880 Well, so another guy from my probay class was Jay Walsh, 458 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:38.640 and we both went to seventy five. There was two 459 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:40.799 of us that went to seventy five. And he knew. 460 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:43.480 Jay knew a lot more about the job than I did. 461 00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:45.839 He was a fireman, he was a I think he 462 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.119 was a lieutenant. He might he might have been. I 463 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:50.839 don't know if he was a lieutenant. But he worked 464 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:53.519 in Connecticut and he and he came to New York. 465 00:23:54.759 --> 00:23:57.240 He was a big buffy. Used to ride with Rescue 466 00:23:57.240 --> 00:23:59.880 three or you know, I guess years ago. I never 467 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.960 even understood any of that. You know, right, what do 468 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:06.400 you mean you ride? I had no no clok for free? 469 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:10.839 And Jay also used to have He was a photographer 470 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:12.480 and he's taken. I don't know if you remember. It 471 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:14.319 used to be a calendar that came out every year. 472 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:16.319 He was pretty good at that. I think he used 473 00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:18.519 to sell a lot of calendar. Anyway, he med and 474 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:19.559 him were. 475 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:19.839 Both in it. 476 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:20.720 What's that? 477 00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:22.759 No? I Thinklewin Coops were both in it. 478 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:27.119 So we went We went to seventy five together and 479 00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:29.119 we were mutual partners, you know, because we were both 480 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.359 probi's and I don't you know Kieran went there that 481 00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:34.599 Kieran went to pro school with you. But I think 482 00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:37.200 you know, between Kieran and me and Jay, it was 483 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:39.559 like the first probes that went there in a while, 484 00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:43.079 if I remember correctly. You know they all went to 485 00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:47.559 the engine. What's that they all went to the engine? Yeah, yeah, 486 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:49.640 there was there. There was three of us there. You know, 487 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:53.480 Kieran was had three more months than us. Who's in 488 00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:56.880 that picture? This is a little bit later. This is okay, 489 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:01.799 this is like ninety seven. I'd say, uh on the 490 00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:03.680 all the way on the right there, that's Burger. Burger 491 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:08.519 just passed away. He was he was my he was 492 00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:10.160 my button man. I was. I was one of the 493 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.839 pall bears at his funeral, that was that was. 494 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:16.759 Are you in this picture second from the left, yeah, 495 00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:19.160 second from the left, oh ship right? 496 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:23.160 Yeah? Yeah, And that's Tony Kremik there, he was a proby. 497 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:27.960 There that's me and Matt Hanson, Dave O'Donell, Tony Ventrella 498 00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:29.400 and Burger. 499 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:31.519 How long did it take. 500 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.000 Burger. Let me tell you something, man, is you know, 501 00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:37.559 the job had lots of guys that could break balls. 502 00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:40.640 That guy was like a master. And I you know, 503 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:43.359 being in the bank pipe in it was guys there too. 504 00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.880 We'll get to that. But you know, in my career, 505 00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:50.920 I definitely had the pleasure of being around the guys 506 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:54.680 who were so good at breaking balls. And it's just, 507 00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:58.000 you know, whether it was or anybody else, you you 508 00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:00.640 weren't hanging out if you had thin skin with these people, 509 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:04.160 you know, but it was uh and. 510 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.720 That's legit, like you could say that, but that's like legit, 511 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:09.640 like you were not hanging out with some of these 512 00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:12.680 guys if you a lot of kitchens. 513 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:15.640 Oh yeah, yeah, I don't think. I think it's just 514 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:16.240 different today. 515 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:18.319 I honestly, you know, you hate to say, oh yeah today, 516 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:20.839 you know, you know when I was on, but there's 517 00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:23.400 no comparison. I don't think to how the kitchen was 518 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:25.279 then to to you know, and forget. 519 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:27.799 About different, all different. You know, it's so many things. 520 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.000 A lot more ship than you can't you can now. 521 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.920 Obviously, so many things are different now. But you know, listen, 522 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.720 you know guys are always saying, oh change you know, 523 00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.319 everything is changing no matter where you're at at any 524 00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:41.480 point in time. You know, I came up, we came 525 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.880 on ninety three, right, think about like we were. We 526 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.759 were doing really good with fires. But every single person 527 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:50.240 that you met there, that you know, that was there 528 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:52.480 ten years before that, they're like, so you should have 529 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:53.519 been here ten years ago. 530 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:57.039 Yeah you're late, Yeah exactly. 531 00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.079 You know, so you get used to what you have 532 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.839 and everything isative, man, everything is relative. I said, don't 533 00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:05.119 be afraid of the change. It happens. You know, hopefully 534 00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:07.640 it's going to change slow, but you got to realize 535 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:08.599 change happens. 536 00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:12.039 Yeah. But for the normal people, they don't really they 537 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:14.720 can't grasp what it's like to be at the kitchen table, man, 538 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:18.240 of what they just don't get it. 539 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:23.279 It's yeah, yeah, yeah. I know a couple of guys 540 00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:25.400 you know that have said told their wives a couple 541 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:28.119 of things, and they they just don't get that. What 542 00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:33.279 do you so funny about that house? 543 00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:34.799 You know? 544 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:36.880 When I was in college, you know, I played rugby 545 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:38.599 in college and there was a thing we had cold 546 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.480 spoon fights, and you know it's it's it's a pretty 547 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.720 good gimmick, you know, like everybody's in on the joke 548 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.359 except for the one guy that's not in on a joke. 549 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:51.759 And so I kind of brought that into the bagpipe man. 550 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:54.640 And I remember we did it too, Uh we were 551 00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:57.079 we were out in Dallas. I'm kind of jumping ahead here, 552 00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:57.759 but it's. 553 00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:59.079 All right, we'll get back to it. 554 00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:04.920 We're in Dallas for the Dallas Giant game and we 555 00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:06.880 have a big tailgate and we end up doing this 556 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.880 spoon fight things and it's Mike mcpoulland's son, Mike mcpoland, 557 00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:13.960 who's in forty four truck. So it's it's two guys. 558 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:17.039 It's it's the spoon fight champion who I was the 559 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:20.839 champion And everybody knows, you know who the champion is. 560 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:24.359 The guy who doesn't, Mike mcpon knows nothing about it. 561 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:26.799 And you're hitting each other on the head with a spoon, 562 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.359 and it is doesn't you can't hurt somebody hitting them, 563 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:36.240 you know, the spoon is in your mouth, but mean, yeah, meanwhile, 564 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:40.279 Leam Flawherty's later in the back of the head. Everybody. 565 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:43.079 Oh, but then he has to do it to you, right, 566 00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:44.559 to me, He has to put the spoon in his 567 00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:45.839 mouth and hit you on the head. 568 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:46.880 And then turned around. 569 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.880 And every time he hits me, I go, ah, oh, 570 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:50.720 a man, that hurts. 571 00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:54.799 You know, uh, I've never heard of that. 572 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.519 If you are, it is on YouTube, if you I think, 573 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:01.240 if you look up, yeah, yeah, you know, I doubt you. 574 00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:03.640 Watch the guys kept You put the like a woodspoon 575 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:05.680 and you go and you know, you can only do it, 576 00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:08.279 like you said, it's only somebody. 577 00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:11.599 But I had a little gimmick. I had a little 578 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:13.599 I used to have. It was it was actually a 579 00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.400 piece of cancer that they took off eventually, but I 580 00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:18.480 had this bump on the top of my head and 581 00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:21.279 I would I would know sometimes if that spoon came 582 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:23.680 in the right way, it could cut. It could cut 583 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.640 that thing. So I would make it bleed. And now 584 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.319 I'm like, I'm like, holy shit, this guy's good. You know, 585 00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.000 he's making me bleed. And everybody's going you got you 586 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.599 got Tommy killing in the background, taking he's taking bets. 587 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:37.160 They got. 588 00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:40.839 The bare knuckle fight. 589 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.680 The only person that does not know what's going on 590 00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:44.799 is the the. 591 00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:46.640 Guy. 592 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:47.000 Yeah. 593 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.680 So it's it's pretty funny, man. But but going back 594 00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:52.759 to why I brought that up is, you know, there's 595 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:56.039 like some guys have said to their wives or or 596 00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:58.839 I don't understand, how is that funny? 597 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:04.440 Yeah, they don't get it. Clown as if you walked 598 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.519 into one twenty fourth kits the first thing you did 599 00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:07.440 was cover your nuts. 600 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:13.759 Uh what a guy. 601 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.000 When you first got there, it stuck out to you 602 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:17.119 a lot, like who are you. 603 00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:18.839 Working in seventy five and thirty three? 604 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:19.359 Yeah? 605 00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:26.359 Uh you know, Louis, I really I can say this honestly, everybody, 606 00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:31.160 everybody stuck out, everybody had I loved working there. I was. 607 00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:34.599 It was such a as they say in Ireland, it 608 00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:39.640 was a it was brilliant. It was a brilliant brilliant No, 609 00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:43.680 it was it was absolutely You know, you have a 610 00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:49.279 guy like Burger who who controls the tempo. I'm not 611 00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:52.799 saying only him is everybody had their their place, you know, 612 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.279 and you had the guy that really put the hammer 613 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.680 down when it needed to be put down. But you 614 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.240 it's just like the way everything just worked. I would 615 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.680 say I was there for nine years before I got promoted, 616 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:13.440 and those nine years to me, like everybody got along. 617 00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:17.279 And another thing about those nine years, it seemed there 618 00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:20.720 was really really not a lot of turnover. You know, 619 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:23.880 there a lot. It was definitely a big study house. 620 00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:27.680 But one lieutenant's list had just sort of like ended, 621 00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:31.039 kind of like Everett and Brian Fink, and there was 622 00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.440 a certain group that had just gotten quoted off that 623 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:35.519 last list, you know, the screwed up tist with the 624 00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:40.960 eight hundred million questions and then and then, I don't know, 625 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:43.240 it was like nine years of like working with the 626 00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:45.799 same guys, and you know how awesome that is. It 627 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.160 was very rare you had a new guy come in awhere. 628 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:50.960 But I always say, me and Tony Vinchella always had 629 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:55.359 this conversation. It was that this some group and I'm 630 00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.640 sure every every every you know, five years later, ten 631 00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:01.960 years the guys were saying the same thing about their 632 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:05.000 little niche. But for me, from my point of view 633 00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:10.400 and my perspective, every single guy in their house stuck 634 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:13.640 out because it was just a great place to work. 635 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:20.480 A great firemanney crazy. Yeah, my first year was the 636 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:24.240 busiest year. It was absolutely the busiest year. And I 637 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:29.720 mean talk about great fireman. You know, you know how 638 00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:33.440 some guys remember, like they can remember, oh this address 639 00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:35.920 that they had this fire at and it was on 640 00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:39.319 this day I only have one fire that I actually 641 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:42.359 know the address, the date, to time, everything, and it 642 00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:44.599 was when I was proby. It was twenty one to 643 00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.319 seventy University Avenue and I almost I almost died. We 644 00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:50.759 were in a flashover. But and Kevin Kallon, who was in, 645 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.319 he was, he was in, he was in the engine 646 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:55.720 at that time. He went to the truck layer. He 647 00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.000 I had the nozzle and he was backing me up 648 00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.319 and we lost water in the fire department and flashed 649 00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:05.079 and Kevin had me by the ankle and our chins 650 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:08.559 were on the floor and we inched out. You know, 651 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:11.039 it was a very very long It was a project 652 00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:15.880 type building, so getting out of that hallway was tough. 653 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:20.960 And here Burger I told this story at Burger's funeral. 654 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:23.960 Burger never went to Metal Day, and he should have. 655 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:27.279 For that particular fire. He had the he had the 656 00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:31.599 door position, and he held that position at the door 657 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:35.039 and he got everybody out of that hallway. And if 658 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.039 he if he was not at that door position and 659 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:41.319 reaching in to get everybody out because it was you know, 660 00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:45.240 it was very day. It was January thirteenth. It was 661 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:48.240 freezing cold out like three o'clock in the morning and 662 00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:51.160 when we right before we as soon as I got water, 663 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.960 the OV took the window. The wind came. This was 664 00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:57.759 like wind driven fire to a tee took the window. 665 00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:00.599 We lost water. It just had you know what just 666 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.519 happened like that. I'm a proby. I'm thinking, all right, 667 00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.200 I guess this is the way all fires go. I 668 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:11.239 don't know know, but but Kevin Callon and especially Burger 669 00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:15.280 being in the right position, they saved I I've said 670 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.880 it my whole career. They saved my life. My helmet 671 00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:23.119 was absolutely cooked, like cooked pieces and I was a proby. 672 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.639 Three weeks after that fire was the uh maybe it 673 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.280 was four weeks later it was the Hunter Mountain ski races, 674 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:33.960 and I'm going to show up there. I'm going up 675 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:36.519 the jail lift and going up the jailer for the 676 00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.159 guy that I don't even know. And he looked over 677 00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:42.559 him and he says, uh, so, uh, how many years 678 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:47.199 have you been a proby? His helmet was like completely cooked, 679 00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:49.679 and I said, I was just it was. We had 680 00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:56.119 a bad fire. But yeah, everybody in that house great fireman. 681 00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.719 And you know what, I'll say this today they are 682 00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.639 still great fireman. I know, I know that for a fact. Man, 683 00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.719 they have great freaking officers. It's just a great house. 684 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.920 I don't know. I can't even say anything more about 685 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.039 it makes me feel proud. You go, we go back 686 00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:12.280 to our Christmas reunion. 687 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.119 Every I was gonna ask you to go back. 688 00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.920 Yeah, yeah, First the first since I've been in the company, 689 00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:21.559 the first Friday of every December is our is our reunion. 690 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:24.320 And you get anywhere from one hundred and twenty to 691 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.079 one hundred and fifty guys that show up, And that 692 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.960 tells you something right there, right addition, right then, but 693 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:33.159 the guys, you know, the officer, Brian Coverage, for one. 694 00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:36.800 You know Brian, you know he he wants to make 695 00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.639 it a point to talk to guys that were in 696 00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:43.480 that house before, to explain to them how well they're 697 00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.119 doing and how they how great the guys are, and 698 00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:48.599 how great the fireman are, you know, and you know 699 00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:52.280 how great that is. I I mean, it's it fills 700 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.760 you with pride, knowing that that's where you came from. 701 00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:57.639 You know, I put my paper for thirty three truck. 702 00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.440 Did you know that that's gonna blurt that out? 703 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:04.079 Real? I guess, I guess I went to see I 704 00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:05.199 guess it was before you knew. 705 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:09.280 Yeah, I went to see Captain Finnemore twice. 706 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:12.679 Actually what makes to call him fun no more or 707 00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:13.920 something like yeah no more? 708 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:16.960 Yeah, but uh, and then the squad thing came up, 709 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.239 so I went with that. With that, otherwise I think 710 00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:20.159 I would have probably went. 711 00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:21.400 I went to the truck at some point. 712 00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:25.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So actually, so when I was studying 713 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:30.960 for lieutenant, I started studying. I guess you know that 714 00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.400 was when when was our lieutenant's test? That was in 715 00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:39.239 ninety seven, ninety seven. So so I'm studying in ninety six, 716 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:41.119 we get we get on the job in ninety three. 717 00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:43.920 Now I'm studying for lieutenant ninety six. I had a 718 00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:46.559 great study group, but it was run by Billy McGinn. 719 00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:50.559 Billy McGinn was uh he was a lieutenant forty eight 720 00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:55.159 engine and he was studying for captain. So he ran 721 00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.639 our study group. And it was five of us. It 722 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:03.719 was me, Kiaren Brosnan, Jerry Tucker, Patty McNally and Steve 723 00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:08.440 de Lockry. We we uh we met every we we 724 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:10.639 weren't fire at tech guys. I didn't even know where 725 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:16.079 fire attack was. Uh. We met every Thursday night never missed. 726 00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.559 We never missed a Thursday for an entire year. And 727 00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:21.960 Billy McGinn was the guy that got us promoted. He 728 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.719 was very very sharp, and you know, you know he 729 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.639 went to Squad eighteen and ended up dying on nine 730 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:31.199 to eleven. But great freaking guy, very very sharp. 731 00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:35.760 So you spent the quite a while in the engine. 732 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:37.000 H seventy years in the engine. 733 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:39.280 How was Eddy g Man? How was the Z Man 734 00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:39.639 over there? 735 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:40.400 Man? 736 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:42.079 He was absolutely. 737 00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.639 Back then he was he was even notudler than he 738 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:49.159 is now. He was nuts man, he was nuts. I 739 00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:51.679 was doing uh, I think I was doing my thirty 740 00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.360 day detail. Either it was my I think we did 741 00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:57.679 a thirty or sixty day detail in the Yeah, thirty 742 00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:01.719 day detail. And we were up on the Grand Concourse 743 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:06.119 and the officer was, uh, Jimmy Gill, you know, and 744 00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.960 some some firemen rub officers, you know, they could they 745 00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.480 could rub the rub them the wrong way sometimes. And 746 00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:17.079 Z Man used to get under Jimmy Gills, uh, under 747 00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:20.800 his nerves. We're we're we're going down the Grand Concourse 748 00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.679 and z Man climbs up. We're driving. I don't know, 749 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:28.400 you know, we're not responding to anything, but he goes up, 750 00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.159 he gets up on the roof of the cab and 751 00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:32.119 he leans down. 752 00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:40.400 Gods, that didn't happen in f l A is it? 753 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:41.079 Oh? 754 00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:42.360 Hell no? 755 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.960 And we pulled up, and we pulled up. There was 756 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.079 like a carnival going on, and he's also getting on 757 00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:51.679 the first wheel that you know, and it's in the 758 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:53.920 middle of it's in the middle of there's like two 759 00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:56.480 h type buildings right next to each other, the first 760 00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.039 wheels right in the middle. And so you're going up 761 00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:01.079 and like you could look in windows and there's people 762 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:04.039 like looking out and z Man, you know, just because 763 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.199 he's he's the z Man. 764 00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:06.880 I love him. 765 00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:08.920 I love him, but he's he. It's me and him 766 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:11.400 in the car and every time the first we love 767 00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:14.079 he's screaming at the top of his lungs, like like 768 00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.960 he's scared, you know, he's not. He's screaming at the 769 00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.559 top of his lungs. And all these people, all the 770 00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.480 all these people are out at the windows like what's God, 771 00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:27.239 that's awesome, so funny, that was great. 772 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:28.960 I said, before you went to the truck door. You 773 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:32.760 got in the band, Yeah, in ninety five, Yeah, I 774 00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:33.480 got in the band. 775 00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:37.039 Really, so I couldn't. I couldn't learn while I was 776 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:39.719 on probation. So right after I came out of probation, 777 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.159 I bought my chanter and I started. I got a 778 00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:50.639 private instructor and and you know, I put, I really 779 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.320 like practiced a lot, and I got in the band. 780 00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.480 Pretty cool. I was in the I bought my chanter 781 00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:00.000 in August, and I my audition was in January. That January. 782 00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.480 Is that how it worked? You auditioned for the band? 783 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.800 And yeah, it usually takes It can take anywhere from 784 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.840 you know, it could take a year, two years, some people, 785 00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:14.519 some people more, but I did. I did start learning 786 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:16.760 the chanter when I was a kid, so that kind 787 00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:20.360 of helped a little bit. But once you discovered girls, 788 00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:24.719 it wasn't a chance. I wasn't playing the chanter anymore. 789 00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:27.920 So did you always know that you wanted to be 790 00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:28.960 in a bando since you got on. 791 00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.719 I always liked the bagpipes. I remember, even when I 792 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.559 was in college, I had an artist draw a leprechaun 793 00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:37.679 playing the bagpipes and I was gonna get it on 794 00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.400 my leg, but I ended up not getting it. But 795 00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.960 I always liked the bagpipes and my growing up, my 796 00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.519 father had the original record of the Bagpipe Band and 797 00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:49.800 he used to play it all the time with his 798 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:54.199 Irish music on a Friday night, and so I kind 799 00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:57.559 of knew all of the songs in my head. I 800 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.920 got a private instructor. He says, all right, what song 801 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.039 do you want to learn first? And I hummed the 802 00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:05.239 song to him, the one that goes on, you know, 803 00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.639 and uh so we started learning that it was good 804 00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:11.760 to have a private instructor because it definitely helped me 805 00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:12.639 learn a lot faster. 806 00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.679 What what's it like like being in that? 807 00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.039 Like, first you're in the FDNY, for God's sakes, right, 808 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.679 and and like you said, the pride that comes along 809 00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:23.440 with that and that. 810 00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:26.159 Whole Anthony right, it's like incredible. 811 00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:30.119 And then to be in the pipe band in the Emeralds, 812 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.599 you know, the Emerald Society pipe band in the FDNY, 813 00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:35.920 and then starting to do parades and doing that ship. 814 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:40.840 I mean, he's dreaming as a Talian dude. 815 00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:43.199 But I used to see the fucking pipe band coming 816 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:46.119 no matter where I was, if it was unfortunately at 817 00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:48.800 a funeral, if it was at Saint Patti's day, if 818 00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:50.480 it was the fucking pipes were coming. 819 00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:50.719 Bro. 820 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.679 My hash stands up and that's how it's just a prideful. 821 00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:54.679 Thing, right. 822 00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:57.039 So yeah, it has to be incredible for you to 823 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.159 watch people looking at you with that pride, right. 824 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:01.000 I mean, it's got me. 825 00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:03.159 It's kind of what got me to do it. You know. 826 00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:06.360 The first time I saw Jimmy Corker and marching into 827 00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.360 one of our I don't know if it was a 828 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.480 Memorial Day or a. I think it was Memorial Day, 829 00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.719 it probably was. It was probably when we came on 830 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.239 and I went to seventy five in October of ninety 831 00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:21.960 three after graduating Provy School. 832 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:23.440 That first then. 833 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.159 That would that would have been that would have been 834 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:27.599 the first Metal Day Memorial Day that I would have went. 835 00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.440 Because he passed away to following you, right, he. 836 00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:33.079 Passed away in March of ninety five. All right, so 837 00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:33.880 it's been a year. 838 00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:34.119 Yea. 839 00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.960 So my actually my first parade in Saint Patrick's State 840 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.639 Parade was his last. He died in my first parade. 841 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.000 It's tradition for us to bring a bottle of whiskey, 842 00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:49.239 you know, to celebrate your you know, coming into the band. 843 00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:53.440 We always do that, and all my whiskey we were 844 00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:55.719 we were toasting to Jimmy because he died at the 845 00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:56.599 end of the parade. 846 00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.039 I remember I was at the what was that at 847 00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:00.559 the Armory, right or something like that. 848 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.400 Yeah, we used to have the Yeah, we used to 849 00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:05.480 have our party at the Armory. And uh, you know 850 00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:07.880 when we got back to the armory after the parade, 851 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.840 because he had passed away on the platform of the 852 00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:15.480 subway station, you know, before coming making his way down 853 00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:15.760 to the. 854 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:18.639 Trying And I remember hearing all that when we were but. 855 00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:22.239 Anyway he was. It was when it was seeing him 856 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:27.239 marching in with the band. Uh that Otober and then 857 00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.599 and I said, I gotta do this. That that was 858 00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:31.639 kind of what set that ball of motion. And then 859 00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:34.159 I see Bronco. You know, I'm friends with Bronco. We 860 00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.480 went to prov school together. I see him. Bronco was 861 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:41.079 a drummer, and he was already in the band because 862 00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:45.039 by Metal Day, by the following July, which is the 863 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.760 time we just came off probation, right, Wait, is medal 864 00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:53.639 day June June or July. That's June June June. Yeah, 865 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:57.079 So regardless, Bronco was already in the band, and he 866 00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:01.199 had already been in a bagpipe band to being in 867 00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:04.840 our band. So he you know, he had an actually 868 00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.639 up so I spoke to him and he introduced me 869 00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.079 to Tommy McEnroe, who was the pipe major at the time, 870 00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:13.400 and and that was how I got the ball rolling 871 00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:17.000 to get in. But but what I said before about 872 00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:21.199 seventy five thirty three and the tightness of the guys. 873 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:23.559 Oh my god, that's so those guys are so tight. 874 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:26.079 That's how I felt in the band. So now like, oh, 875 00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:31.639 I'm overwhelmed with freaking greatness. I mean, the people, the guys, 876 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:38.079 you know, just Geene Freyer, Jean Jean Freyer was you 877 00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:41.119 know I speak about I speak very highly of Burger 878 00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:44.639 and you know his ball breaking ability and everything. Jeane Freyer. 879 00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:46.719 I'll go on the record right now, is I know 880 00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:49.199 there's a lot of funny men on the fire. I 881 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:52.840 know there's been extremely funny people on this job. I 882 00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.480 will go on record saying that man was the funniest 883 00:44:55.480 --> 00:45:00.719 man I ever because he was It's not a not 884 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.840 only was he like talented it at just breaking people's walls, 885 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:09.119 but he was that guy that could say anything anywhere 886 00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:13.119 to anybody and get away with it like he he we. 887 00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:14.920 I remember one time we were up in Albany and 888 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:18.159 there's all big wigs at this thing, everybody except the governor. 889 00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:22.280 And he was roasting everybody at the table and and 890 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.559 and everybody's laughing. You know, he just from Jimmy. 891 00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:27.559 What company was he from? 892 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:28.440 Well? 893 00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:32.360 Was I know, like I remember, I know that he 894 00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:34.280 was an eighty one engine a long long time ago, 895 00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.519 but then he retired as a fire marshal. He was 896 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.760 a fire marshal when he retell. He was a lot older. 897 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:43.840 He's passed. He died just before nine to eleven, like 898 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:48.639 months before nine to eleven. Wow. But he you know, 899 00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:50.880 when I came in the band, there was a certain 900 00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:54.840 group of guys that he took under his wing. And 901 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:58.800 I talk about being proud again, I mean he it 902 00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:01.760 was it was myself. Uh, I don't want to get 903 00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:03.159 into that, but you know it was it was a 904 00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:06.079 group of guys that he just kind of you know, 905 00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.679 younger guys, and he took it. He was the older guy, 906 00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:10.880 and he took us on our way and just felt 907 00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:15.199 really good, you know that to be part of something 908 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:15.480 like that. 909 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:18.639 But it wasn't just him. It was I mean, you 910 00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:23.719 had I mean, just who was the guy who was 911 00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:26.280 the crazy guy Coobs, I had the tattoo mctigue. 912 00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:30.960 That's Tommy mctigue. Tommy mctigue. So Tommy mctigue's son, Tommy 913 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.719 got in the band with me. He you know, so 914 00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:38.039 we have a thing in the band. You're a son 915 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:40.320 of a member. If he's not on the fire from me, 916 00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:42.119 a son of a member can be in the band. 917 00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:46.880 So Tommy mctigue's son, who was in the military time 918 00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.079 he was at I think he he was, Uh, he 919 00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:52.599 graduated from West Point. I didn't know that it was 920 00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:55.119 he was think it was a hell. I don't know 921 00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:56.159 if he was a helicopter I think it was a 922 00:46:56.159 --> 00:47:02.079 helicopter pilot. But Tommy unfortunately had look got leukemia. He 923 00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.159 had beat it the first time, but it got him 924 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.679 the second time. And uh, but he was my age 925 00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:11.360 and and we had got got in the jubb. But 926 00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:16.920 Tommy is he was he was another he's another crazy one. 927 00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:21.840 He went. Did you ever see his drive around a 928 00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.079 little volks He was the rescue three guy and he 929 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:25.519 used to drive he had. 930 00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:27.480 When he came. 931 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.079 And it had a freaking scaling ladder hooked at the 932 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.679 time and we were at one medal day. It was 933 00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:39.159 one medal day and he pulls up and he grabs 934 00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:41.360 Van Is the commissioner at the time. He grabs Van 935 00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:44.559 and throws him in the car, gets in the car 936 00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:48.360 with him and they're flying down the road Riverside Avenue. 937 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.960 He came on the bathroom in the bathroom. 938 00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:54.519 Yeah, yeah, he had to show him. 939 00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:55.519 He came on in the bathroom. 940 00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:58.480 Oh, he's He's great. 941 00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.719 That's a big commitment though it right, I mean a 942 00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:01.960 lot of. 943 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:06.280 Time, huge, especially for the younger guys and everything. You know, 944 00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:08.039 like I still go to stuff, but I'm I don't. 945 00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:11.920 I'm not at I try to go to a couple 946 00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:16.719 of things when I can. Now I got But it's 947 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:21.000 a great, great organization. I'm very proud to be part 948 00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:22.880 of it, and the guys are. 949 00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:25.360 Liam has done an incredible job too, right, I. 950 00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:30.119 Mean Liam's you know when when Jimmy Corkoran passed away, 951 00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:34.119 you know it was kind of we had a we 952 00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:36.880 had a tryout for you know, who's going to be 953 00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:39.920 the next guy, and you know it had to be Liam. 954 00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:42.800 You know, it had to do big dude. There was 955 00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.239 a million reasons. He's a big dude. He's got presence. 956 00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.199 He he at the time at the time he was 957 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:50.840 he had the most we had. We used to have 958 00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.840 points for you show up at things. You know. Liam 959 00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:56.519 Hay had the most points. He probably was the most 960 00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:00.519 Irish guy in the band. Both of his parents from Ireland. Uh, 961 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:03.239 you know, travel to Ireland all time. I actually been 962 00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:06.239 to Ireland with him to his mother's houses. I met 963 00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:11.400 his grandmother numerous times. Uh, you know, passed by now, 964 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:16.119 but yeah, he was, he was the right choice. That 965 00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:22.400 was an interesting night too, It was that was pretty funny. 966 00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.199 Those guys in the band. Did they play an instrument, 967 00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:26.199 Those guys will. 968 00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:30.400 Become to that position that Liam is a piper. 969 00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.320 Okay, so they're already in the band and they play 970 00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:36.159 something and then they moved to that next progression. 971 00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.400 Well that that was I mean the pipe the drum 972 00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:42.639 with Liam Lilliam's the drum major. Right, So that position 973 00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.119 is a lifelong position. That's you know, as long as 974 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:48.159 he wants. That's not a part of the board, right. Uh, 975 00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:51.280 So that's that's he's that's his position. You know. 976 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:54.639 I remember watching the video of the documentary when you 977 00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.880 guys reached whatever was it fifty years or something like, 978 00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.920 you guys just had had a f here. What a 979 00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:03.119 what a documentary that was? I don't remember. 980 00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:06.440 Good Timmy Garritty did a great job with that. Ye Timmy, 981 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.039 that's that's one of Timmy is like into the whole 982 00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:11.039 video production thing, even before the job. 983 00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:13.920 Yeah, I'm trying to get Edett Garritty. I've been trying 984 00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:15.079 to get ed on the show. 985 00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:16.360 Oh he's great. That's his dad. 986 00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:18.760 Yeah, yeah, we're trying to get him on the show. 987 00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:20.480 A little it's a little bit of a hight difference set. 988 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.880 Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm good for I'll work with Beatty. 989 00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:28.800 Oh yeah yeah, yeah. Good people. 990 00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:33.960 So let's get back to get over to thirty three 991 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:38.280 truck in ten thousand. A lot of guys slide across 992 00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:39.920 the floor. He just felt that he was your time 993 00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:40.519 to go there. 994 00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.079 Well, I was on the litle Tennis list, so you know, 995 00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:45.800 it was just kind of the thing you wanted to, 996 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:48.280 you know, try and get some truck experience before you 997 00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:52.559 get promoted. Now that's actually interesting, uh that I you know, 998 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:57.079 I get over there and the list is moving, it's 999 00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:01.199 going nowhere. That list was going absolutely. You know, I 1000 00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:04.079 did not think, well, Louis, you're the same. We got 1001 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.719 promoted together, so were the same. I did not think. 1002 00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:09.719 I did not think that we were getting promoted at all. 1003 00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:11.440 So I actually started buddying again. 1004 00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:15.199 We were doing we were doing the uh, what's the 1005 00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:16.000 thing the coalition? 1006 00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:16.239 Right? 1007 00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:19.519 We used to have the when you were on the list, Right, 1008 00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:20.480 you used to do the. 1009 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.400 Oh what the hell did they call that? Yeah? 1010 00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:27.559 You Eddie Balls was right. I came on with Eddie, 1011 00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:29.360 so I was close with him. He started the. 1012 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:34.920 What is that called the the provisionals, you know, Yeah. 1013 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:36.559 Like when you're gonna get you you're on the list 1014 00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:38.719 and you're trying to get promote everybody. 1015 00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:40.880 You're bucking up money so that you if you have 1016 00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.159 to hire a lawyer or something to fight to right. 1017 00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.639 Or you would go to like these political things so that, 1018 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:48.440 you know, you would go give out flyers for these guys, 1019 00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:51.760 so that they would push for the list to get 1020 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:55.679 to the end, because the eligibles, the eligible eligible. 1021 00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.239 Son of them. Bitch, I'm getting old, some ship. 1022 00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:04.239 So I never thought. I didn't even think we were. 1023 00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:06.440 I didn't think I was gonna get promoted. Actually at 1024 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:08.559 that time too, I was thinking about going to Rescue 1025 00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:12.119 four because at the time, you know me, me Liam 1026 00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:15.039 and Bronco we were all really tight in those days, 1027 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:18.679 and and they weren't Rescue four. So I was thinking, 1028 00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:23.719 I'm not getting promoted. I had talked to, uh, you know, 1029 00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:26.000 some of the guys there. John Gain was the senior 1030 00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:29.000 guy there, and I talked to him about it. And 1031 00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:33.559 then and then nine to eleven happens, and then that's 1032 00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:36.679 you know, that changed everything. They started promoting, you know, 1033 00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:39.880 we me and Louis got promoted. Was it like eight 1034 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:41.360 or nine months after nine to eleven? 1035 00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:47.800 There was July of two, June June second, oh two, 1036 00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:48.800 that's when we got Yeah. 1037 00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.960 So we had a lot of guys. We had a 1038 00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:55.840 lot of classes, right, we had a lot of guys. 1039 00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:59.159 I remember George Johnson was up in the upstairs session here. 1040 00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:01.800 I figured who else was up with him. 1041 00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:04.719 We had Billy Ryan, We had a lot of Ryan. Yeah, yeah, 1042 00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:07.760 we had a bunch of Billy Redden was in there. 1043 00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:09.159 Oh, Billy Redden. 1044 00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:11.400 So this was this is something I remember. I don't 1045 00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:13.639 even know if Timmy remembers this, but we had so 1046 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.440 many sock guys that and we were you know, again, 1047 00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:18.280 it was ball breaking all the time, right, and you'd 1048 00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:20.320 have to stand up and pick a thing out of 1049 00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:22.079 the can and you know, you'd have to talk about 1050 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:23.559 something for three minutes. You didn't even know what the 1051 00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:25.400 hell you were going to pick out right right and 1052 00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:28.760 stand up in front of the thing. And Tim would 1053 00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.960 break balls about the sock guys, right, he was a 1054 00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:34.079 he was a Brox guy, you know, thirty three truck. 1055 00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:37.440 He would break sock ball. Oh, socks, socks, sock you know, Oh, well, 1056 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.360 whatever you know, I'm available ten eight, whatever you know, 1057 00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:43.840 don't you know? Like after I go I go to 1058 00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.800 tow ninety in December of two, all of a sudden, 1059 00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:48.000 I see this son of a bitch. 1060 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:48.599 What the sock? 1061 00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:56.480 He didn't break the balls, but he already knew, right, 1062 00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:57.199 he never let on. 1063 00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:57.760 He was good. 1064 00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:05.440 Well, in my defense, I did have I was told 1065 00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:08.840 early in my career that you don't even think about 1066 00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:12.000 going to SoC have ten years on a job, right, 1067 00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:17.000 So that was that was my ball breaking thing? 1068 00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:20.920 Was No, I got you. Yeah, I do remember that 1069 00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:21.480 seeing you. 1070 00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:24.079 I don't remember. We'll go through the timeline. It's coming up, 1071 00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:25.039 but I do remember. 1072 00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:27.679 Yeah, that was. That was a weird time. 1073 00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:31.239 We actually took Timmy we took did you you didn't 1074 00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:33.320 get promoted off of that did you take that test, 1075 00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:34.760 which the Captain's Test. 1076 00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:35.880 We took the Captains test. 1077 00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:37.840 Oh, we took the Captains test while we were in flips. 1078 00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:39.320 Did you did you get on the list? 1079 00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:41.880 No? No, and yeah, And I didn't get promoted off 1080 00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:45.360 the next I took three Captains tests. The one after that, 1081 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:47.599 the one that I did study for, was the one 1082 00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:53.599 that the men who we will not shall not name 1083 00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:58.360 wrote that bullshit test and it was like you know 1084 00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:03.920 past tests where uh, there was your handful of gimmes, 1085 00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:08.039 then you had your handful of like real you know, 1086 00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:12.920 like hard hard questions, and then there was your your 1087 00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:14.880 fluff in the middle. You had to be a study here. 1088 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:17.960 But they weren't, you know, they were straightforward questions. But 1089 00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:19.880 that one test. 1090 00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:22.920 Yeah, was so hard and the test that we would 1091 00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:23.960 have ever. 1092 00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:26.159 Wrote that test. I feel like the guys that were 1093 00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:29.760 tested every single question, they said, how can we screw 1094 00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:31.440 them here? How can we screw them here? How can 1095 00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:33.880 we screw there? It was such a hard test and 1096 00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:38.079 only two hundred people passed it and with ties, I 1097 00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.760 think it was two ten to Dominic Bertucci was the 1098 00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:43.559 last guy to get promoted off that list, right, I 1099 00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:45.960 think his list number was two ten something like that, 1100 00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:49.840 and you know normally they would promote four hundred. 1101 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:54.360 Yeah, that that that test in school that time. That 1102 00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:57.440 was like again, nobody was really studying. I mean we 1103 00:55:57.440 --> 00:55:59.519 were down at you know, down to ground zero all 1104 00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:02.719 that stuff, but there were guys studying for that test. 1105 00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:06.400 You know what I mean, Like, yeah, I didn't. 1106 00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:08.519 I mean I think I got like a sixty something 1107 00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:10.599 on that test and I didn't even study one minute. 1108 00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:12.519 But we had to take it because we were promoted 1109 00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:14.679 one day. As long as you were promoted one day 1110 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:16.960 and rank you could take the test. And I think 1111 00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:18.679 it was like a week or two later or something. 1112 00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:21.440 Well, the third one that I took, the third after 1113 00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:25.039 the hard one, you know, which was only two years 1114 00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.400 later because they only had two hundred people to promote 1115 00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:31.079 on that one. Two years later, they gave another test 1116 00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:33.480 that one I didn't. I barely studied for, but that's 1117 00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:36.440 the one I got promoted off. But I remembered everything 1118 00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.280 from the first time. I said, you know, and the 1119 00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.480 guys that were in my study group break my balls 1120 00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:44.639 because they say, I, you know, I decided to renovate 1121 00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:49.559 my kitchen at the same time, and which dayline I said, 1122 00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:53.920 day line day, All right, you cat could all work out. 1123 00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:55.280 When you went over to the truck. Do you catch 1124 00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:56.519 good work before you got promoted? 1125 00:56:57.239 --> 00:56:59.239 While I was in the truck, and the whole time 1126 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:02.159 I was there, I always I always did very well. 1127 00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:07.119 I did well there. I probably got more job. My 1128 00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.639 first part of my career in seventy five is when 1129 00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:15.320 I got the most work, because things started to tell 1130 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:20.039 a little fizzle off a bit. But yeah, it was 1131 00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.679 in the beginning there when it was still crazy. You know, 1132 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:27.079 Wayne Hollerin was a senior man. I respect Wayne more 1133 00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:31.559 than he even knows. But I remember him saying that 1134 00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:35.840 the years of the Animal House where it was absolutely 1135 00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:39.280 insane was seventy five to eighty five. Those were that 1136 00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:42.159 was the time frame where it was just because prior 1137 00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:43.159 to that it was a camp. 1138 00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:45.000 Was it really? 1139 00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:48.360 Yeah? Yeah, prior to that I was total camp. People 1140 00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:50.599 used the companies used to interchange there. 1141 00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:54.079 Wow, isn't that crazy to think that in ninety three, 1142 00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:57.159 thinking all the work you went to and that's not 1143 00:57:57.239 --> 00:57:58.519 even in that guy's. 1144 00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.000 Ball in is we all? 1145 00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:03.360 No? I was going we were doing six thousand runs 1146 00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:05.920 a year, I think sixty five runs a year. They 1147 00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:08.599 were doing over ten thousand runs a year in that time, 1148 00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:14.199 and they didn't, I don't they didn't have two sections. 1149 00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:16.199 Yeah right, that's a weird thing that those guys didn't 1150 00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:17.239 have a second section there. 1151 00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:20.280 Yeah, but I think what I read somewhere was that 1152 00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:25.519 the Warriors, uh well earlier in uh like Halem and 1153 00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:28.320 Brooklyn and a little bit later on in the Bronx, 1154 00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.719 like the mid seventies, it was still going on in 1155 00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:33.360 the eighties. We're in the in Brooklyn. It was slowing 1156 00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:35.400 down in the eighties, but it was still rocking in 1157 00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:35.920 the bar. 1158 00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:37.079 Yeah. 1159 00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:40.360 Yeah, Well the vacant buildings, you know, that was a big, 1160 00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:43.800 big thing, and and and and what was I think 1161 00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:46.559 what made it so, you know, when I first got 1162 00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:50.760 there so busy still was the crack. The crack epidemic was. 1163 00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:53.599 You know, it was terrible. And as a matter of fact, 1164 00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:57.039 I tell people my whole first year as a proby 1165 00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.320 and and and after until the crack thing, you know, 1166 00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:05.199 Giuliani really cleaned things up. But we're seventy our old firehouse, 1167 00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.880 the old because now seventy five is on Cameron Place, 1168 00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:12.440 they're two blocks away. But the first you know, our 1169 00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:14.760 the old firehouse was on Jerome and one hundred and 1170 00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:18.519 eighty third Street. When the doors opened up, one hundred 1171 00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:20.760 and eighty third Street was right, you know, right front 1172 00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:22.360 of you. So if you had to go up to 1173 00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:24.599 the Grand Concourse, you were shooting right out of the 1174 00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:26.480 fire house and going straight up hundred eighty third Street 1175 00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.960 when the apparatus doors opened at any point of the day, 1176 00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:33.760 I don't care whether the way the wind always blew. 1177 00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:37.159 Everything blew into the fire so potato chip bags where 1178 00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:40.519 you know, we went to fireout, including all of the 1179 00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:44.960 crack files. Now, you couldn't walk on the street in 1180 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:47.119 that hole there. You couldn't walk on the sidewalk without 1181 00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:49.840 stepping on an empty crack file. There was that much crazy. 1182 00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:50.800 That's the old firehouse. 1183 00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:52.079 That's what's there now. 1184 00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:56.239 Cap It's an EMS station. Actually, that's a whole nother story, 1185 00:59:56.360 --> 01:00:00.599 is is it's I'm I'm really upset that it was 1186 01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:04.079 nice to go into a brand new firehouse, but they 1187 01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:07.199 Dennis Devon was the captain at the time, and the 1188 01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:11.440 city it was the worst living firehouse in all of 1189 01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:14.719 New York City at this time. There was two different 1190 01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:17.000 times where a rat jumped on me while I was 1191 01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:24.880 on a on a house swat. What's worse is there 1192 01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:27.159 was uh and this is what this was the story 1193 01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:30.559 that broke Camel's back. There was twelve guys that were 1194 01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:35.599 on medical leave with flea bites from the rats. Oh 1195 01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:38.800 my gosh, Rick COMISKI great guy right there. He was 1196 01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:41.719 captain in thirty three when I was there, and then 1197 01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:43.480 he became a nineteenth battalion. 1198 01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:44.320 Was there right? 1199 01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:49.079 How was? Somebody asked me for uh, what's his name? 1200 01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:51.519 I totally just got off topic. 1201 01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:55.280 That's all right. Garrett was Garrett, Garrett Garrett. 1202 01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:58.119 So Garrett was a sign that when I was there, 1203 01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:01.920 he was still a sign there. And but he wasn't there. 1204 01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:04.400 I don't know. Oh, I think he was in rescue three. 1205 01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:05.199 Didn't you go to rest. 1206 01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:09.840 H Yeah, I haven't seen him in the chat. 1207 01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:12.320 While I think I wrote his check home once or twice. 1208 01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:14.159 He lived by me. 1209 01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:18.760 Yeah, that placed. Uh, that was some place man. Still, 1210 01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:21.159 like you said, it's still if there's work anywhere. 1211 01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:24.719 Prince the Prince was my lieutenant when I first got there, 1212 01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:27.039 and and he I was in group eighteen. He was 1213 01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:31.639 in group eighteen, and John Halpin was in group five. 1214 01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:34.679 And I told you Jay Walsh, Yeah, He was the 1215 01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:36.719 other guy I went to from probaby school. We went 1216 01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:39.559 we went to Semi five together. He was in Group five. 1217 01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:43.320 So we only worked with those two officers. I always 1218 01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:46.760 worked with either the Prince or John Halpin, and you 1219 01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:50.920 couldn't have asked for two better officers. I mean, just 1220 01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:54.000 it was, it was. It was great. The Prince was 1221 01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:59.360 a character. You know, between the Prince and Burger, they 1222 01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:03.239 did nickname everybody. Everybody had a nickname. I actually write 1223 01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:05.480 that was one of the things I wanted to I 1224 01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:09.519 actually wrote down there a bunch of them. Here's a 1225 01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:14.480 handful of the nicknames from the Animal House, Lucky, Burger, 1226 01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:21.800 Wayne and I, the Deuce, the Ace, Missus Mellon, the 1227 01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:27.039 Polish Prince, Sparky, Morty. You know Mordy right, Remember you 1228 01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:31.880 know Morty from Rescue for he was no no Morty. 1229 01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:37.760 Dave Winthrop Marty, Oh my god, Prince gave him that name. 1230 01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:42.679 The background behind that is his name is Dave Winthrop 1231 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:56.880 right Winthrop translating to win Thorpe from oh my god, 1232 01:02:57.480 --> 01:02:58.760 that's the evolution of Morty. 1233 01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:01.440 I gotta hit him with that horsehead. 1234 01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:05.320 The Swede, dell Wood and the blue Falcon are the 1235 01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:11.280 same person the goose Great Fireman. That was Gary mcclink, 1236 01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:16.880 Gray Fireman. Uh k Rock White Rock, Shanny O'Donnell. That's 1237 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:21.039 another story, Uh Doc. We had the good roach and 1238 01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:24.679 the bad roach. Of course had the gimph hardball as 1239 01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:29.920 hardball happened. Rest of Saul, the Commission, svend Baby, the 1240 01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:35.360 pest panties, Ayatola. The icon, Oh, the icon. I'm gonna 1241 01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.800 tell you I have another story about the icon trigger 1242 01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:42.360 frog balls now frog balls is the nickname that Prince 1243 01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:49.079 called everybody a frog bulls, big Bird, little Ricky Topper. 1244 01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:53.719 And my favorite is Jay Walsh who came to seventy 1245 01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:56.719 five with me from Proby School. He had no nickname, 1246 01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:02.639 so the Prince called him no nickname. That was his 1247 01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:03.360 that was. 1248 01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:05.079 Did he stay there his whole career? 1249 01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:08.440 He got promoted, Uh yeah, Jay went. He also went 1250 01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:10.159 to thirty three and then he got promoted and he 1251 01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:12.039 went to lieutenant. He was a lieutenant and fifty nine 1252 01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:15.079 injured for a long time. He retired a couple of 1253 01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:15.559 years ago. 1254 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.119 When you leave him off that list is who are you? 1255 01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:24.199 I was I said that before. My name is Tim. 1256 01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:30.519 Yeah yeah, So who was the guy who just wanted 1257 01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:31.039 to talk about. 1258 01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:33.119 There was a guy that you saw the icon. That's 1259 01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:39.400 that's Jimmy Dotty. Jimmy Dotty was a lieutenant and uh again, 1260 01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:41.639 I don't know, I can't, I can stop. I can't 1261 01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:43.880 stop saying that this is this guy's the nicest guy. No, 1262 01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:46.280 this guy's the nicest guy. It was like one of 1263 01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:48.639 the nicest far You know, John Ivolo, we all know 1264 01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:50.800 is the nicest fireman that ever was on New York 1265 01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:55.440 City fire But the icon it was Jimmy Dotty, great guy. 1266 01:04:55.960 --> 01:05:00.800 Every meal, every single meal that was the best, that 1267 01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:09.199 was best meal. But Jimmy Dotty. And this is I'm 1268 01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:11.519 gonna make it. This is a very short thing. But 1269 01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:15.480 I actually I have a sister that I never knew about. 1270 01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:19.599 And I found out about her because Jimmy Dotty grew 1271 01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:22.800 up he knew my I have. I never met my 1272 01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:27.360 biological father. Another story. But Jimmy grew up with this 1273 01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:31.480 guy and when he first started working in my firehouse, 1274 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:34.719 I just happened to mention, did you know this guy 1275 01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:38.480 Tommy Diamond who was from Park Chester in the Bronx 1276 01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:41.480 And he said, he said, my dad and him are 1277 01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:46.320 best friends, and so fuck and then and then he 1278 01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.320 ended up dying. And when he doted, and I didn't 1279 01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:53.039 talk about my biological father. Guy I never met. I 1280 01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:56.800 find out through the mutual friend with Dottie that I 1281 01:05:56.840 --> 01:06:00.159 have a sister, and to this day we have an 1282 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:01.599 unbelievable relationship. 1283 01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:02.840 Wow. 1284 01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:05.119 We met. She was living in North Carolina, but she 1285 01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:06.880 moved back to New York when she found out she 1286 01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:08.920 knew nothing about me. I knew nothing about her. 1287 01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:11.199 Wow, that's a great story. 1288 01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:14.480 When she got married. I was just at her house 1289 01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:16.239 last weekend with one of her kids. 1290 01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:21.079 Uh, this is all from this guy that was working that. 1291 01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:25.440 Imagine if it didn't even work, If he didn't that's 1292 01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:29.559 meant he was covering at the time too. He didn't 1293 01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:32.880 have the spot there. This is what a special thing 1294 01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:34.960 that is. Yeah, it was very It's very good. Me 1295 01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:36.760 and him, that is a special thing. Me and him 1296 01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:42.519 both shares so good stuff. Good stuff on my mind 1297 01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:43.840 right now, good stuff. 1298 01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:44.440 Yep. 1299 01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:45.880 Wow. 1300 01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:49.679 As you get promoted in two thousand and two and 1301 01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:52.239 then assigned to the third division. 1302 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:56.360 Yes, I went to the third division. I went to Uh. 1303 01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:59.719 But again remember this is like shortly after nine to eleven, right, 1304 01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:02.559 there were spots everywhere, So I did. I probably did, 1305 01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:10.119 like maybe two vacations. I never was essay once as 1306 01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:13.000 a lieutenant. I was never ever essay, not even once. 1307 01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:17.440 I went to fourteen Truck and I was there for 1308 01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:22.199 I think six or seven months UFO. But then that's 1309 01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:27.679 when I went I ended up. Jerry Mirtha asked me 1310 01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:29.679 if I was interested in going to socc. 1311 01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:31.760 This is when the band comes in rough. 1312 01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:35.400 Not the band thing. Listen. I know you don't like 1313 01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:38.199 to say that, but it's it's it's I like to 1314 01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:39.960 say that I got to places on my own merit, 1315 01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:42.239 and I say that. 1316 01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:44.280 I did work with three you know, the animal House. 1317 01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:46.079 I meant story. 1318 01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:51.800 I like to say I got places on my own merit. 1319 01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:56.000 But so so there was. 1320 01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:56.440 A lot of things. 1321 01:07:57.239 --> 01:08:03.239 Jerry right, So so Jerry call too, and I said, yeah, definitely. 1322 01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:03.800 I knew. 1323 01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:07.079 Jerry knew that I was trying before the whole promotion thing, 1324 01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:09.559 before nine to eleven. He knew that I was thinking 1325 01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:13.239 about going to rest before. So that's when he said, 1326 01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:15.079 you know, that's why he came up to me. He's 1327 01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:17.560 still interested in going because they needed officers, you know, 1328 01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:21.079 it was every everybody needed everything. So so I can't 1329 01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:24.600 I I went uh. John Norman called me at home 1330 01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:26.840 and I had to He said, I had to go 1331 01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:29.800 to Hazmat school first, because I guess that's something that 1332 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:32.239 an officer has. You have to be hasmat trained before 1333 01:08:32.239 --> 01:08:34.720 you can work in socc So I went right to 1334 01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:37.800 Hazmat school and then I was covering in SoC So 1335 01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:40.960 it was it was definitely interesting because it was I 1336 01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:44.039 wasn't aware. I didn't know that, you know, officers could 1337 01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:46.760 be not you know, like I thought it was guys 1338 01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:48.880 that had to be in soccer before or whatever. But 1339 01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:53.199 it worked out. They worked out for me. I was 1340 01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:57.600 very happy. And then and then I saw I saw 1341 01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:01.199 Billy wall Billy wallfs was captain of forty one. I 1342 01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:03.960 had covered their vacation or something, and I pulled them 1343 01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:07.479 aside one day and I said, listen, I don't care 1344 01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:10.359 how long it takes. I said, but this is where 1345 01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:13.399 I want to work. So I'm just letting you know 1346 01:09:13.479 --> 01:09:15.840 that I don't care how long it takes. I'll cover 1347 01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:17.479 for as long as it takes. 1348 01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:17.960 What was it? 1349 01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:21.159 What was it about that place? 1350 01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:26.760 I'll say this keV I loved. I loved when I 1351 01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:31.319 went to the third division to cover, it was something 1352 01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:34.000 different you know, Manhattan was you know, because the third 1353 01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:36.960 Division is from like I don't know what streets start saying, 1354 01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:39.119 but like sixty five Engine's part of the third Division, 1355 01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:42.279 so that that is where I worked on one like 1356 01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:45.720 vacation spot, or maybe it was just a couple of tours, 1357 01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:48.680 but it was interesting, you know, it was it was 1358 01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:53.000 really cool to be out of the ghetto and in 1359 01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:56.920 in being inserted like that. But then I started, now, 1360 01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:59.199 I'm I'm working at twenty six truck one day, and 1361 01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:01.159 I'm like, you know, I feel a lot better here. 1362 01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:06.239 I just I liked being in, you know, and it 1363 01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:10.119 was a lot of it was the buildings, you know, 1364 01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:13.920 like you feel comfortable. I felt very, very very comfortable 1365 01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:17.079 in a five story walk up, you know. The tenement 1366 01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:19.079 to me is like a walk in the park, and 1367 01:10:19.439 --> 01:10:22.479 that's where I felt really comfortable. Now I know. I 1368 01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:26.039 actually had a conversation with kill Duff about this. I 1369 01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:32.039 understand that I understand the idea of you know, diversifying, 1370 01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:34.640 you know, going to different areas of the city, and 1371 01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.359 and I get that. But I'm just saying how I 1372 01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:41.119 felt when I came back, when I came back to 1373 01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:44.920 the Bronx and I'm covering in forty one Engine Squad 1374 01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:52.239 forty one. Uh, it just felt great, It felt like comfortable, 1375 01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:54.239 and I was I was just happy to be there. 1376 01:10:54.800 --> 01:11:01.199 And again here we go again. Every freaking guy. It's awesome, 1377 01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:05.640 every freaking guy that works there, you know, so. 1378 01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:07.880 And they do a ship ton of work. 1379 01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:10.279 And they were just rebuilding too. I mean obviously they 1380 01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:12.640 were just rebuilding everything. 1381 01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:16.720 Really, I mean they lost yeah, yeah, it's it's it was, 1382 01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:19.880 it was, it was. I was happy to be there, 1383 01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:25.199 and I'm not I loved working in every uh squad rescue. 1384 01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:26.960 I loved working in every part of the city and 1385 01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:29.720 in those companies. It did. I will say I was 1386 01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:33.359 a little uneasy at first, because you know, you're I 1387 01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:34.800 don't know if guys looked at you and say, oh, 1388 01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:36.720 this guy was never in soccer before or whatever. But 1389 01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:39.279 you know, I just kept my mouth shut and just 1390 01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:43.840 you know, just did my thing and and it all 1391 01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:47.960 worked out and I got along with everybody, and you know, 1392 01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:50.840 but going to forty one was just it was just 1393 01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:52.359 I was really really comfortable. 1394 01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:54.760 So too, Tool is dad, but he is speaking of 1395 01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:57.079 Timmy fucking Timmy o'tool. 1396 01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:00.600 When I when I, uh, the whole time I was 1397 01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:02.159 UFO there and then when I got there, me and 1398 01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:04.279 Timmy were in the same group, and Timmy lives near 1399 01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:08.079 me here, so we we carpooled together. We were you know, 1400 01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:10.800 we always worked here. It was it was either Timmy 1401 01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:12.640 or Owen mcgovernor that I was working with. 1402 01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:15.319 Oh I love fucking Owen. Fucking another Owen fucking. 1403 01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:19.319 I tell you my brother, My brother's Owen too. 1404 01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:22.319 It's Barrett, right, Is that Barrett. 1405 01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:24.439 That's uh so on all the way on the left, 1406 01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:27.479 that's Scott Hickey than John Barrett. The guy that's on 1407 01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:30.439 the left that's cut off though, is that's Jerry Kennelly. 1408 01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:35.279 I love working with Jerry. I love working with a guy. 1409 01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:38.479 I love working with a guy that's got an Irish accent. Yeah, 1410 01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:40.000 and you know what maybe he used to make me 1411 01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:45.640 laugh is nobody can understand anything he said. Some you know, 1412 01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:49.039 some Irish accents are stronger than others. And Jerry's from 1413 01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:52.319 Limerick and they have a very strong Irish accent and 1414 01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:56.319 sometimes people couldn't quite you know, get what he said. 1415 01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:58.239 I remember we were at a job one time. We 1416 01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:00.840 were coming down actually we I think we were just 1417 01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:04.640 doing a secondary at a project in Manhattan and the 1418 01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:09.000 Jerry's coming downstairs. Somebody said, Jerry, where are you on 1419 01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:14.560 the radio, and Jerry, what Jerry said was I'll be 1420 01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:17.560 right down. That's what he said on the radio. But 1421 01:13:17.720 --> 01:13:29.960 what everybody heard was French Toast breakfast. So so yeah, 1422 01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:32.760 there was I don't know who it was. I think 1423 01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:39.199 it was Mike. He was so funny. I think it 1424 01:13:39.359 --> 01:13:41.880 was either him or CC. Forget what he was gonna 1425 01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:45.560 do it. We're gonna do a shirt, make his shirt, Jerry, 1426 01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:48.800 you know, uh, French Toast breakfast and on the back, 1427 01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:52.680 I'll be right down, Simmy. 1428 01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:56.920 Timmy Mark is in the chat, he says, Jerry only 1429 01:13:56.960 --> 01:13:58.560 said f you came. 1430 01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:01.199 Yeah. 1431 01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:03.760 Who was the guy in rescue one who had the 1432 01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:04.720 brogue all the time? 1433 01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:05.600 Was it Cummins? 1434 01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:07.279 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 1435 01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:10.000 He was another guy you could never understand. He would 1436 01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:10.640 be story. 1437 01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:13.680 Have you ever heard the story of Amon Killian? 1438 01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:16.319 I know, do you know? 1439 01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:18.880 Do you know? Uh? 1440 01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:22.319 Tommy Killian. Tommy killing was in fifty six trucks. He's 1441 01:14:22.439 --> 01:14:24.239 he was, he was in the band. He hasn't been 1442 01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:26.880 around a band of years. But Tommy's father was a 1443 01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:30.279 battalion aide. I think in the third battalion. I know, yeah, 1444 01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:35.239 it was the third battalion, I think, And I guess 1445 01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:38.399 the dispatchers. They're at a job and the dispatcher's egging him. 1446 01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:40.119 You gotta give me, you got it? 1447 01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:41.520 What do you got? What do you got? 1448 01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:43.279 I need a size up at the building. I need 1449 01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:44.640 to size up at the building. 1450 01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:45.800 A little bit. 1451 01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:49.000 Yeah, he says, He says, Oh the sight, he says, 1452 01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:55.960 it's massive. 1453 01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:00.079 Send more lads, Send. 1454 01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:02.079 More lads, more fucking lads. 1455 01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:04.880 I love working with a guy with that Irish accents. 1456 01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:07.279 Great, that's true, I have to say that's not Uh, 1457 01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:08.039 it's pretty good. 1458 01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:10.039 Great to hear on the radio. I just I don't 1459 01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:13.079 know whatever it is. I love it. But yeah, great 1460 01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:14.279 guys in forty one. 1461 01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:16.560 Man, how long do you have to wait before you 1462 01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:17.159 got that call? 1463 01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:18.079 Two years? 1464 01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:21.880 For two years? Yeah, it was two years. I covered 1465 01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:24.800 for two years, right, roughly. This is as much as 1466 01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:28.560 I can remember. Again, my my memory is shocked. But 1467 01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:31.319 two years and I was at. 1468 01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:34.840 I was at the rocket. Billy came up to me 1469 01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:38.119 and he said, uh, time to go, Bubby. That he 1470 01:15:38.159 --> 01:15:42.439 always used that word bubby. Yeah, yeah, you're coming over, Bubby. 1471 01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:44.880 And it's because of what you said to me two 1472 01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:46.520 years ago. I think that's how I know it was 1473 01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:49.520 two years because he knew I wanted I was waiting 1474 01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:50.920 and I wanted to go there. Wow. 1475 01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:54.119 And motherfucker too. That guy's funny as hell. 1476 01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:56.520 Man, Oh he was. He was great. It was great 1477 01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:59.560 working with him. I worked with three captains. There was 1478 01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:02.119 him and ever it came, and then Larry Thompkins. 1479 01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:04.840 We're gonna have Larry on in a couple of weeks. 1480 01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:07.239 Larry's Larry is one of my favorite guys too. 1481 01:16:08.199 --> 01:16:11.399 You know what's funny, cap you had just said that 1482 01:16:11.479 --> 01:16:13.560 you kept like when you first got there. He didn't 1483 01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:17.720 talk much, he kept a low profile. So Louis said, hey, yeah, 1484 01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:20.000 we're having Tim Grandall. I'm like, I don't think I 1485 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:21.680 ever talked to that guy. And all the time he 1486 01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:23.720 seemed like a really quite guy. I don't know how 1487 01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:26.840 good guess he's gonna be and who knows, look at 1488 01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:31.680 this guy. 1489 01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:32.640 I know, I know. 1490 01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:36.079 So you know, we didn't talk about this tim when 1491 01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:39.399 when I was me and Roe in like the late nineties, 1492 01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:40.640 we started like a wedding. 1493 01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:45.399 Favorite thing, Italian favorite. Oh yeah, Timmy started and Irish. 1494 01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:48.920 You know, Louis Louis, I can't even there. I lost 1495 01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:53.000 a freakingunt of money, lost a lot of money. We tried, 1496 01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:55.720 we tried to work. Bad business decision. 1497 01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:57.520 But I remember talking to him a lot about this. 1498 01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:00.600 Only Guineas can make wedding favors, bro the Irish. 1499 01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:02.600 Yeah still does she still do that? 1500 01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:02.880 I know? 1501 01:17:03.039 --> 01:17:06.479 No, we got it basically dried up. But you know, 1502 01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:07.039 probably like. 1503 01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:10.399 Very the whole wedding market thing is yeah, yeah. 1504 01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:14.920 Now it's all T shirts baby, Yeah, let's go. 1505 01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:18.720 Great guys in forty one, man, I got it. You know, 1506 01:17:18.840 --> 01:17:22.680 I could mentioned everybody there, but uh, you know, just 1507 01:17:23.319 --> 01:17:26.319 Timmy and Owen. You know, those are the guys that 1508 01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:29.840 I drove me so was always work them. 1509 01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:31.880 They were Is that the guy? Owen was the one 1510 01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:34.560 who went out. He moved out to Oregon. Yeah he's 1511 01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:38.840 out in Oregon. Yeah he was, he was originally. He 1512 01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:40.760 still sends me messages every once in a while. 1513 01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:41.560 He watches the show. 1514 01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:43.039 I talked to him on the phone every once in 1515 01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:43.279 a while. 1516 01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:43.720 Yeah. Yeah. 1517 01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:48.760 He was a good kid, great great. All the chauffeurs 1518 01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:50.640 man were freaking yeah, everybody's great fun. 1519 01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:54.640 He was a chauffer right a chauffer. Yeah, Owen, yeah, 1520 01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:58.239 was he was. Yeah, so I worked there. I covered there. 1521 01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:01.000 It had to be him. I'm I'm ninety percent sure. 1522 01:18:01.720 --> 01:18:04.960 And we responded to I was covering there for just 1523 01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:07.560 for the tour. We respond to a gas leak. I 1524 01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:11.119 think we're second due or third due. Yeah, And it 1525 01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:14.279 hits the brake and I opened the door and. 1526 01:18:14.199 --> 01:18:17.159 He goes no, no, no, no, no, oh yeah, yeah. 1527 01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:18.800 We don't get we don't get out right. 1528 01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:20.359 I turn around. I'm like, what are you talking about. 1529 01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:21.960 He's like, no, no, Lou, we don't get out. We 1530 01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:24.960 don't get off. I'm like, bro, I gotta get off. 1531 01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:27.479 He's like, no, Lulu, we don't we over here. We 1532 01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:29.079 don't do that. I understand, but we don't do that. 1533 01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:31.399 I said, are you fing with me? He's like no, no. 1534 01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:34.079 I said, all right, when in Rome, you. 1535 01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:37.479 Right? And that's exactly right. And you know what, I've 1536 01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:40.560 had people arguing me, oh no, no about listen. The 1537 01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:44.199 right way to operate is the way that company operates. 1538 01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:44.720 Correct. 1539 01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:48.399 That's how you operate as an officer. That would be 1540 01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:51.800 a good tidbit for any officer. You go there, you 1541 01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:53.359 operate the way the company operates. 1542 01:18:53.399 --> 01:18:54.279 Yeah, but he did. 1543 01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:56.199 He had to tell me like two or three times, like, dude, 1544 01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:58.319 I'm getting off. He's like, no, no, Lou, we don't. 1545 01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:00.399 We don't do that here. You know, like it'll be 1546 01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:02.840 like almost like disrespectful if you got off or something 1547 01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:03.079 like that. 1548 01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:04.720 I guess. So I said, all right, I'll stay on 1549 01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:04.960 the rick. 1550 01:19:05.359 --> 01:19:06.560 I no, no, you've been gone a while. 1551 01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:10.479 Maybe he didn't get over that, but I was. 1552 01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:11.359 I was golfing. 1553 01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:14.680 Oh Sully was there too, Stevie. 1554 01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:19.560 Uh oh, Steve Sullivan was there, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1555 01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:23.279 but I was golfing just last week. 1556 01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:26.039 Uh, with a buddy of mine I got with all 1557 01:19:26.079 --> 01:19:29.600 the time. He's a suffer cop and he he's he 1558 01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:31.600 says he's got two other guys that he was that 1559 01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:34.920 he was a cop with. So my buddy's retired now. 1560 01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:37.920 But he I'm talking to this guy Sean, and he says, uh, 1561 01:19:38.279 --> 01:19:41.159 I said, I asked him where he worked as a cop. 1562 01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:44.840 You know what unity is he's in whatever, and uh 1563 01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:46.960 he you know, he's telling me where he works. But 1564 01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:50.479 he said that my buddy Kenny, when they work together, 1565 01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:56.319 they he made my buddies job easy. This This is 1566 01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:59.399 what my buddy Keny says that these two guys they 1567 01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:03.159 made my easy. And I said the thing I said 1568 01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:05.199 right to him, right to him back, You're going to 1569 01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:09.279 work in Squad forty one, and every single guy in 1570 01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:11.680 that fly house made my job easy. 1571 01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:13.520 And make me look like a star. I told him 1572 01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:15.840 to make me look like a star. Yeah, it's like 1573 01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:16.560 Disney World. 1574 01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:19.199 It is just I want, I want you. 1575 01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:21.199 To start taking the china, but you can't use any tools, 1576 01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:21.800 use your team. 1577 01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:26.800 One particular person that was just it just don't do 1578 01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:28.920 anything for you the right freaking place at the right 1579 01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:31.800 time was Mike Lindy. Mike Lindy was a great for him. 1580 01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:32.880 It was a good fireman. Mike. 1581 01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:36.600 Every time when he was you know, he would I would. 1582 01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:38.800 He wouldn't drive me that often because it was either 1583 01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:40.479 to me your own because they were the same group. 1584 01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:42.680 We were in the same groups. But every once in 1585 01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:45.439 a while I get microft. So now we're at a 1586 01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:48.640 job or something like I need an extra I was 1587 01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:50.079 just going to say, I need an extra hook, and 1588 01:20:50.119 --> 01:20:51.439 Mike's right there, you know, he. 1589 01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:56.640 Just always on point, maybe on point on point man. 1590 01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:00.920 Maybe it was uh he was a thinking maybe allegedly 1591 01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:02.079 could have been a Connecticut guy. 1592 01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:04.920 But he hooked me up like he was like a seaport. 1593 01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:06.880 Guy over there when I went on vacation, Oh, only 1594 01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:09.239 way to go and do all that stuff, whatever that 1595 01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:09.960 places over there. 1596 01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:12.399 Forget what that hackens. Everybody goes over there. 1597 01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:13.600 To look at the old ships and stuff. 1598 01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:16.399 When you mystic when. 1599 01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:18.720 You first got into sock, didn't take you a while 1600 01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:22.399 to adjust to the you know, not first do mindset, 1601 01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:24.800 Like a whole different mindset being in sock, right, you're 1602 01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:26.520 coming in after the fact for the most point. 1603 01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:31.560 Well, uh yeah, there's that's a whole different mindset of operations. 1604 01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:34.119 But you know, in forty one, we actually did have 1605 01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:35.239 a lot of first do work. 1606 01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:36.720 You guys did over there, no doubt. 1607 01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:40.760 Yeah, So that was that's a shithole over there, My goodness, 1608 01:21:41.199 --> 01:21:42.920 it was still a shithole. 1609 01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:46.560 Pretty good, Yeah, But but I did get a lot. 1610 01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:49.199 I got a lot of you know, quality work there, 1611 01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:55.199 quality work. One of my worst nights was, uh, I 1612 01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:57.279 don't know if it was all over the news that 1613 01:21:57.359 --> 01:22:00.119 one night that there was like eight or nine and 1614 01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:02.479 kids that died and that that fire was up up 1615 01:22:02.479 --> 01:22:05.079 by Yankee, stay off of it wasn't Ogden Avenue it 1616 01:22:05.119 --> 01:22:09.199 was a Woody Crest, this fire on Woody Crest Avenue. 1617 01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:13.479 It was it was terrible. It was like a brownstone 1618 01:22:13.479 --> 01:22:18.000 building and just like nine kids died. It was terrible 1619 01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:21.239 that saying. That night, though, we had three other jobs, 1620 01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:24.720 so it was four jobs that were all kick ass, 1621 01:22:25.159 --> 01:22:30.199 and I remember being the most spent. You know, if 1622 01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:33.399 anybody's listening to this, that worked, going back to the 1623 01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:36.000 whole point of reference thing they worked back, you know, 1624 01:22:36.119 --> 01:22:39.159 back in the in the eighties, in seventy five. I 1625 01:22:39.239 --> 01:22:41.239 know for a fact that they're laughing at me because 1626 01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:44.279 that's what they were doing every night. But right, it's okay, 1627 01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:52.359 it's okay. I'm comfortable with it. Very I'm really comfortable 1628 01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:53.119 being retired. 1629 01:22:53.720 --> 01:22:55.960 I was just gonna ask you it don't suck. 1630 01:22:57.960 --> 01:22:59.840 It's it's great. It is good. 1631 01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:04.880 I mean, he's stripped around the world, that guy man. 1632 01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:11.359 Yeah, excellent, get promoted to captain. You spent the let's 1633 01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:15.279 see you there, Oh you went forty one as a 1634 01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:16.319 lieutenant for a long time. 1635 01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:19.000 Huh yeah, I was there for like nine years. I think. 1636 01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:22.760 Yeah, Wow, I didn't know that. Wow looking a long time. 1637 01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:24.279 Quiet. 1638 01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:25.520 That was quiet. 1639 01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:27.880 I told you I was quiet. You see the guy 1640 01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:30.199 you never talked, and look at this personality bubbling out 1641 01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:31.479 of him. It's coming out of nowhere. 1642 01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:35.119 No, it's it's low a great thing. And and you 1643 01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:39.640 know what, that's another place it's changed again. But that 1644 01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:42.520 was another place where a lot of the guys we 1645 01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:46.800 in those we'll call it nine years. For the most part, 1646 01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:50.319 it was the same guys we had. We really had 1647 01:23:50.359 --> 01:23:52.640 a great Especially you go to when how great is 1648 01:23:52.680 --> 01:23:54.960 it You go to a job and like when guys 1649 01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:57.560 are talking to radio, you you know who they are, right, 1650 01:23:57.760 --> 01:23:59.199 not only do you know who they are, but you 1651 01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:01.479 know where they are because you know how they operate. 1652 01:24:01.560 --> 01:24:02.000 You know on that. 1653 01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:03.199 It's just. 1654 01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:07.720 It was a great you know, going back to seventy 1655 01:24:07.720 --> 01:24:13.039 five and thirty three, that that firehouse. The day I 1656 01:24:13.159 --> 01:24:16.039 got promoted, I went to the member in the kitchen, 1657 01:24:16.359 --> 01:24:19.039 you had the where the phone is. There'll be all 1658 01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:21.720 a telephone list of everybody in the company. So it's 1659 01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:23.760 a double house. So let's just say there's fifty people 1660 01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:25.960 in the house. Right the day I get promoted, I 1661 01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:28.319 looked at the phone list and I counted how many 1662 01:24:28.399 --> 01:24:31.760 guys are still in the house. Now the damn get promoted? 1663 01:24:32.039 --> 01:24:34.640 That were there when I went there as a prob 1664 01:24:35.359 --> 01:24:38.319 and it was twenty five guys. So it it changed 1665 01:24:38.520 --> 01:24:40.479 in the nine years I was at seventy five and 1666 01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:45.840 thirty three, the house had changed by half, right, half 1667 01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:49.239 the house had changed. A year after I got promoted, 1668 01:24:49.479 --> 01:24:51.279 I went back to seventy five and thirty three, I 1669 01:24:51.319 --> 01:24:55.640 looked at that same list and it changed a half again. Wow, 1670 01:24:56.199 --> 01:24:59.000 it's so what it took me to do in the 1671 01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:01.520 nine years that I was there. In only one year, 1672 01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:04.239 it the half of the guys that were there from 1673 01:25:04.279 --> 01:25:07.720 that changed. And that's you know, that's promotions as guys 1674 01:25:07.800 --> 01:25:10.479 retire and everything. And it's the same thing with forty 1675 01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:12.439 one we I was when I was there, we had, 1676 01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:15.279 you know, for them. I would say it was me, 1677 01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:19.239 Mickey and Sean the whole almost the whole time as 1678 01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:27.720 lieutenant's there, right, uh yeah, mister Happy and Genevie's want 1679 01:25:27.720 --> 01:25:33.920 to come on to recue three. And then you know, 1680 01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:36.840 I'm forgetting my timeline here. I forget if Mickey went 1681 01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:39.800 after I got promoted, or I think he went after 1682 01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:40.000 I go. 1683 01:25:40.119 --> 01:25:41.840 I don't think he went after you got promoted. 1684 01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:45.000 He probably got Yeah, So it was sewn there for 1685 01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:50.279 the whole the whole time I was there, Mickey went. 1686 01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:53.000 I think Mickey went to forty one a year before me, 1687 01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:56.399 because I was I was covering there. I was UFO, 1688 01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:01.760 and two spots had opened. John Hogan got promoted and 1689 01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:07.720 John Flatley got promoted. Jack Flatley h So those are 1690 01:26:07.760 --> 01:26:10.159 the two spots. So Mickey got the first one that opened, 1691 01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:12.760 and I got the second one that opened. But I 1692 01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:15.079 was UFO because John Hogan was on medically for a 1693 01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:17.920 long time, so I was. I was there for I 1694 01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:19.439 think it was two years UFO. 1695 01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:25.560 So I say all the time like that. My best 1696 01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:27.720 times was when, like you were saying, when you're working 1697 01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:29.520 with the same guys, Like if I work with the 1698 01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:32.199 same offices and I had the same guys work with me, 1699 01:26:32.279 --> 01:26:34.960 there's a level of confidence that you have, and there 1700 01:26:35.079 --> 01:26:38.000 is you feel you make a huge impact at a 1701 01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:40.399 job because you know where the other guys go and 1702 01:26:40.479 --> 01:26:42.520 you know what they're thinking. So I always said, when 1703 01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:44.840 this certain group of guys work together all the time, 1704 01:26:45.239 --> 01:26:47.159 those are my best times. I think, Yeah, I. 1705 01:26:47.279 --> 01:26:49.439 Agree, and you know, and I understand the other side 1706 01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:51.800 of the corn. When you get another guy in, especially 1707 01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:53.880 a newer guy, and you got you know, and you're 1708 01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:59.119 you're trying to you're trying to train that guy to 1709 01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:02.239 be that that that next guy. Right, So there's you know, 1710 01:27:02.319 --> 01:27:05.880 there's that level of it can't always be the same guys. 1711 01:27:07.119 --> 01:27:08.640 And with a new guy, now you have to think 1712 01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:10.800 about him because he is new, and so he's also 1713 01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:14.159 distracting you from what you know, maybe you would be doing. 1714 01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:15.960 If it was all guys that you had to you 1715 01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:17.319 didn't have to worry about it all because you know 1716 01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:18.159 where they were gonna. 1717 01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:19.319 Be, what they were doing normal. 1718 01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:21.439 I mean, even though I didn't work with like let's 1719 01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:24.840 let's say Phil z Ice, phils Ice, uh, because I 1720 01:27:25.039 --> 01:27:27.239 always work remember I said, I always work with Timmy 1721 01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:31.000 and Owen. But every once in a while Mike Lindy 1722 01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:32.880 would drive me or Phil z Ice would drive because 1723 01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:37.039 those were the other chauffeurs. Phil's Phil's Ice. Another great 1724 01:27:37.079 --> 01:27:42.760 another great fireman, thank you for your service. Just a 1725 01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:47.399 great guy. You know Jimmy would yeah, yeah, yeah, he 1726 01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:50.800 was good man. He's good fireman, great fireman. 1727 01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:51.239 Uh. 1728 01:27:52.319 --> 01:27:56.239 I mean I I John Barrett, John Barrett was a 1729 01:27:56.279 --> 01:27:59.239 great fire and and so I remember he was so 1730 01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.199 now he's like the seasoned veteran there you know, but 1731 01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:07.399 I remember him just being the conscientious new guy that 1732 01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:11.079 wanted to do every single thing right. You know, it's 1733 01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:13.119 and he did. He was he was always in the 1734 01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:15.279 right place at the time he was learning. He was 1735 01:28:15.479 --> 01:28:20.199 he was down in the basement building collapse simulators and 1736 01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:26.039 doing the guy was very, very handy. Scottie Oltman. I 1737 01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:32.600 loved working with Mike Leo. You know, I'm really sorry 1738 01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:36.960 if I miss guys. I hope I don't every like 1739 01:28:37.119 --> 01:28:38.840 That's why I said everybody I worked with. 1740 01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:40.880 I think what a firehouse like. 1741 01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:44.239 If you're a fireman, I know how it was for me, 1742 01:28:44.600 --> 01:28:47.520 and you had the same bosses for a long time. 1743 01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:50.479 You know when I say long time five years or more, 1744 01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:52.199 if you're if you stayed in the same place or 1745 01:28:52.239 --> 01:28:56.039 something like that, that was that was a positive things 1746 01:28:56.079 --> 01:28:58.399 for the fire That was like a comfort thing. That 1747 01:28:58.720 --> 01:29:02.760 was it was just a good thing because you had consistency, right, 1748 01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:05.560 you knew the same. If you had a firehouse that 1749 01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:09.119 the boss has turned over rapidly, I think that that 1750 01:29:09.399 --> 01:29:12.439 was where you the firehouses lose their identity a little bit, 1751 01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:15.479 where they either yeah, they just run into problems like 1752 01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:17.279 you you know, you need guys that if you had 1753 01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:19.760 a captain that's in a place for ten years or more, 1754 01:29:20.159 --> 01:29:22.039 or a boss like you know, to me, I was 1755 01:29:22.119 --> 01:29:24.000 in TO eighty eight for nine years. Right, if you 1756 01:29:24.079 --> 01:29:26.600 have a boss that stays there for that long, you 1757 01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:31.239 actually see it. Yeah, I mean, forget all of those guys. 1758 01:29:31.279 --> 01:29:31.920 Look at Sarno. 1759 01:29:32.640 --> 01:29:34.840 Sarno was in some something. My cousin's in what thirty 1760 01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:38.479 two twenty years? Yeah, he's in one thirty two truck 1761 01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:40.640 for twenty years. I just was talking to him. 1762 01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:45.520 Yeah, it just reminded me of a right when I 1763 01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:49.840 got promoted to lieutenant, obviously, I'm coming out of the 1764 01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:53.279 nineteenth Battalion. Forty two engine was in the nineteenth battalion. Also, 1765 01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:58.680 Roy Levec was a lieutenant forty two engine for at 1766 01:29:58.760 --> 01:30:02.800 least twenty years. He retired, and I'm I'm still in 1767 01:30:02.960 --> 01:30:05.600 flips now. I know I'm not going. I know I'm 1768 01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:08.079 not going to the nineteen battalion out of the coming. 1769 01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:10.399 You know, I'm not gonna They're not gonna give me 1770 01:30:10.479 --> 01:30:12.039 to me. But I went to the captain time I 1771 01:30:12.079 --> 01:30:14.399 think it was I think it was uh Hervey Penner, 1772 01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:17.079 I think, and I told him, I said, listen, cap 1773 01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:19.520 you know, I know this spot's going to open there, 1774 01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:21.079 and I know I'm never gonna get it, but I 1775 01:30:21.159 --> 01:30:23.760 am going to put my paper in just out of. 1776 01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:28.199 You know, your luck here, not not your luck. 1777 01:30:28.319 --> 01:30:30.399 It wasn't it wasn't a look just at a precedent, 1778 01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:32.680 you know, just out of uh, what's the word I'm 1779 01:30:32.680 --> 01:30:36.640 looking for, just that principle, because the place was a 1780 01:30:36.720 --> 01:30:40.319 great place. I love. We used to I worked there 1781 01:30:40.319 --> 01:30:47.000 a lot. Oh, uh, seventy five engine when I first 1782 01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:49.560 went there was a four man engine. Actually forty two 1783 01:30:49.640 --> 01:30:53.840 engine was the only five man engine. Uh, So we 1784 01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:56.720 would get detailed there a lot. You know, if we 1785 01:30:56.800 --> 01:30:58.720 had five guys coming in, you know, you always a 1786 01:30:58.800 --> 01:31:00.359 lot of guys were always going to forty So I 1787 01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:03.479 got you know, the whole time I was in seventy five, 1788 01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:06.680 you really got to know guys in uh, forty two 1789 01:31:06.920 --> 01:31:09.079 and a lot forty three and fifty nine, And worked 1790 01:31:09.079 --> 01:31:11.800 there a lot too, but probably mostly in forty two 1791 01:31:11.880 --> 01:31:14.079 because they needed the extra that extra guy. 1792 01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:16.359 What did he say to you when you went there? 1793 01:31:17.039 --> 01:31:19.800 Was he like, yeah, what do you mean when you 1794 01:31:19.880 --> 01:31:21.800 went to when you told the captain you're gonna put 1795 01:31:21.800 --> 01:31:22.319 the paper. 1796 01:31:22.159 --> 01:31:24.399 In for that Oh, oh, he said, no, no problem 1797 01:31:24.479 --> 01:31:27.600 to me, you know, no problem to you know. But 1798 01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:29.640 I just told him, I said, it's just out of principle, 1799 01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:32.680 great place I put my paper in. I know, I'm 1800 01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:35.560 not getting it. They probably didn't even look at it. 1801 01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:37.279 You know, they probably took that and throw it right 1802 01:31:37.279 --> 01:31:37.880 in the garbage. 1803 01:31:37.920 --> 01:31:43.439 But like a yeah, actually you get promoted captain now 1804 01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:46.520 after you there for a while. Uh, and he gets 1805 01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:48.520 sent to the fourteenth. Right. 1806 01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:54.039 So so I went to the fourteenth and I went 1807 01:31:54.079 --> 01:31:59.079 and saw a chief forean and he straight out said 1808 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:02.640 to me, are you going to go back to SOCC 1809 01:32:03.439 --> 01:32:07.359 And I said, uh I, I have intentions on going 1810 01:32:07.399 --> 01:32:10.760 back to soccer. So he said, well that's I appreciate 1811 01:32:10.840 --> 01:32:15.520 your honesty. And he said, he said, I can't give 1812 01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:17.520 you like a UFO spot or anything. I said, how 1813 01:32:17.520 --> 01:32:19.600 about the AR Group? I said, I'll take the R group. 1814 01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:21.600 He said, you want the AR group? I guess they 1815 01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:24.159 hadn't given anybody our group in years. 1816 01:32:23.880 --> 01:32:24.439 There or whatever. 1817 01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:29.600 I said, he said, it's yours. So now I'm working 1818 01:32:29.640 --> 01:32:33.199 in uh two eighty seven, what their six? Two eighty nine, 1819 01:32:33.319 --> 01:32:36.399 what's thirty eight? You know, like they're great companies. So 1820 01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:40.039 I loved you know. That was that was that was good. 1821 01:32:40.399 --> 01:32:44.960 And I did that for six months and then down 1822 01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:47.680 He called me and asked me if I wanted to 1823 01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:51.880 come offline and do the Governor's Island drill. Louis, you 1824 01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:56.359 were the legit logistics for that rock. Yeah, for the 1825 01:32:56.520 --> 01:33:01.399 art task for US. So so I came offline and 1826 01:33:01.479 --> 01:33:03.560 then I was there was a little it was a 1827 01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:05.880 little kind of cue. He Downey wanted to make me 1828 01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:12.239 a logistics officer for the FEMA team and then or 1829 01:33:12.520 --> 01:33:18.840 or the Sockcask Force and then I'm losing my train 1830 01:33:18.920 --> 01:33:21.439 throwt here. Oh, but I was doing planning for the 1831 01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:25.640 Governor's Island drill. So the Governor's Island drill was they 1832 01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:31.079 took the the mirakel On husson the plane crash. They 1833 01:33:31.399 --> 01:33:34.239 they redid this scenario and said, all right, it's the 1834 01:33:34.319 --> 01:33:37.399 same exact scenario, but they're going to crash the plane 1835 01:33:37.439 --> 01:33:40.760 on Governor's Island, a populated area. And at the time, 1836 01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:44.439 Governor's Island was wiping away all these old military based 1837 01:33:44.439 --> 01:33:47.199 buildings that they had, all the residential buildings. 1838 01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:48.840 That they had, I forget what they were now. 1839 01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:51.079 Yeah, they were like two or three story residential buildings. 1840 01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:57.359 So they wanted to recreate the that plane crash and 1841 01:33:57.520 --> 01:34:00.880 make it a three day drill. There was gonna be 1842 01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:04.079 a has meat incident there. There was gonna be dive 1843 01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:07.319 incidents mostly collapsed. They were going to get the robots 1844 01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:13.279 involved from Hasmat. We had drones from the FBI. This 1845 01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:16.479 was in twenty fourteen, so drones weren't There was no 1846 01:34:16.640 --> 01:34:19.239 drone unit back then. Actually that's kind of how it 1847 01:34:19.359 --> 01:34:23.119 got started. But so so I got involved with that 1848 01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:27.439 and that was that was working with the IMT. So 1849 01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:31.159 that was three months to get that. It was three 1850 01:34:31.199 --> 01:34:33.520 months of planning and it was that was cool. That 1851 01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:35.439 was a whole different you know. I never did anything 1852 01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:37.640 like that before, so that was cool. It was a 1853 01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:41.960 different part of my career. That was interesting and challenging, 1854 01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:46.600 you know, and you're a different rank now, so it's 1855 01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:51.479 it just it was pretty cool. And then after that 1856 01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:58.199 Garyty said you're back, and then I said, well, no, 1857 01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:00.439 I had I had to be his exo a year 1858 01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:02.560 and then I was back covering. 1859 01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:05.239 Were you you were in the I M T. 1860 01:35:05.439 --> 01:35:06.880 You were in the I M No. No, I was 1861 01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:10.399 never your no, but it was it. But but that 1862 01:35:10.680 --> 01:35:15.199 drill was specifically planned by the I N T and 1863 01:35:15.319 --> 01:35:16.359 the Sock Task Force. 1864 01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:22.600 Yeah, so you're bouncing around and had not many times, 1865 01:35:22.720 --> 01:35:24.640 is it? Well Ralphie just did it though he's a 1866 01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:26.600 lieutenant fireman and now he. 1867 01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:29.039 So you go back? 1868 01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:30.960 How old? Wait you have to wait to get to 1869 01:35:31.119 --> 01:35:33.039 the cat Well you UFO in forty one? 1870 01:35:33.119 --> 01:35:39.079 Right? You never got the went back? What did I 1871 01:35:39.239 --> 01:35:42.239 gave you the year? Right? Uh? I don't even know. 1872 01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:45.119 Does it just says like sixteen? 1873 01:35:45.199 --> 01:35:49.399 Maybe it says twenty sixteen, twenty thirteen assigned to fourteen 1874 01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:53.039 six months later back in Sock and it doesn't get 1875 01:35:54.880 --> 01:35:55.079 I was. 1876 01:35:55.359 --> 01:35:58.960 I was Garretty's XO for a year and then uh, 1877 01:35:59.600 --> 01:36:00.520 and then I went and. 1878 01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:03.520 I was. 1879 01:36:03.720 --> 01:36:05.600 I did a couple of vacations, but then I ended 1880 01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:06.640 up backing forty one. 1881 01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:10.079 And then I didn't realize you were there for that long. 1882 01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:12.119 Nine years is a long time to be. 1883 01:36:12.159 --> 01:36:14.640 Over there, man, And I was probably the UFO was 1884 01:36:14.680 --> 01:36:16.560 the captain there for over a year. 1885 01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:20.479 Whose spot was that? They who left when he went there? 1886 01:36:20.560 --> 01:36:28.399 That was Larry Tompkins, Oh, Larry Tomkins, Yeah, it's house. Yeah, 1887 01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:30.920 So I was, Uh, I was excited to be back, 1888 01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:35.720 and I think even for a little while there we 1889 01:36:35.840 --> 01:36:40.000 were they were in with they were renovating the house, 1890 01:36:40.079 --> 01:36:46.479 so they they were in with sixteen seventeen for over 1891 01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:46.880 a year. 1892 01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:52.840 What was that like, It's cool, you know what. 1893 01:36:53.039 --> 01:36:55.279 I love working with a lot of guys. You know, 1894 01:36:55.439 --> 01:36:59.560 like it's uh, dinner. 1895 01:36:59.359 --> 01:37:01.239 Time, you know, you have there's a lot of guys. 1896 01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:02.520 Yeah, yeah, we'll. 1897 01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:05.000 Break and it was it was great. I do like 1898 01:37:05.079 --> 01:37:06.159 those guys are great. 1899 01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:08.960 Well, personalities what bulls to break more? 1900 01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:10.039 Just yeah. 1901 01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:11.680 I think if you were in a single engine and 1902 01:37:11.720 --> 01:37:13.720 you only got four guys, you know, people. 1903 01:37:14.159 --> 01:37:15.199 You could guys. 1904 01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:18.439 One guy's on the watch, one guy's studying, and then uh, you. 1905 01:37:18.479 --> 01:37:21.840 Know, going back to what I was saying about forty 1906 01:37:21.880 --> 01:37:25.000 two engine, that's not how that house was. Forty two engine. 1907 01:37:25.079 --> 01:37:27.680 Those guys were always together, you know, it was. It's 1908 01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:31.119 actually interesting. That house is massive. It's a there used 1909 01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:33.359 to be you know, it used to be fifty six 1910 01:37:33.399 --> 01:37:34.920 truck used to be in there years and years and 1911 01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:39.920 years ago. So it's a big freaking firehouse, three story firehouse, 1912 01:37:40.119 --> 01:37:43.359 massive firehouse, but just the one engine company and they 1913 01:37:43.479 --> 01:37:45.840 only ever really hung out in the kitchen. Their beds 1914 01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:48.479 were in the kitchen. Everything was in the kitchen, and 1915 01:37:48.800 --> 01:37:51.079 uh what a tight firehouse. If you were if you 1916 01:37:51.159 --> 01:37:53.319 weren't working, you were at the ski race, you know, 1917 01:37:53.439 --> 01:37:55.760 like if the ski racers. That's a great place in 1918 01:37:55.840 --> 01:37:58.840 that company was at the ski races unless you were working. 1919 01:37:59.680 --> 01:38:03.600 Uh off wall, same thing they were all together. They're 1920 01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:07.640 big in Their big thing was whitewater rafting. They used 1921 01:38:07.640 --> 01:38:08.960 to do white water rafting trips. 1922 01:38:09.439 --> 01:38:10.359 One house, one mission. 1923 01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:13.920 Yeah, God, let's go to some of the pictures. We 1924 01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:14.439 didn't get to. 1925 01:38:17.079 --> 01:38:17.560 You muted. 1926 01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:20.159 Oh damn, sorry about that. I want to hear a 1927 01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:20.920 story behind this one. 1928 01:38:21.680 --> 01:38:24.399 So, uh there was a hint. The guy on the 1929 01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:29.720 left there is Jimmy Graeney, great fireman, probably been the 1930 01:38:29.760 --> 01:38:33.880 Middle Day four times, I'd say, all freaking legit au 1931 01:38:35.279 --> 01:38:38.800 grabs he had. He's a great great firemen And uh, 1932 01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:41.279 you'll never see him wear anything on his jacket either, 1933 01:38:41.279 --> 01:38:47.680 because he's a humble, humble human being. Jimmy was involved 1934 01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:54.439 with acting, not not necessarily acting, but he did extra 1935 01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:56.640 works and stuff like that. But not only that, he 1936 01:38:56.880 --> 01:38:59.119 owned like I don't know, fifty years, I don't know 1937 01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:02.399 how many cars he owned, like fifty like old time 1938 01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:05.760 cars and from all different eras. So the movie the 1939 01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:08.600 movies knew about his little business that he had going, 1940 01:39:08.720 --> 01:39:11.359 and they like like you know the movie the Bronx 1941 01:39:11.439 --> 01:39:14.640 Sale and they read your car or something. It's set 1942 01:39:14.680 --> 01:39:17.000 in a different time. You know, those are all his cars. 1943 01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:20.359 Every car that movie is his car. And so he 1944 01:39:20.479 --> 01:39:22.600 used to do that with a lot of movies. But 1945 01:39:22.720 --> 01:39:25.039 he also got involved with you know, being an extra, 1946 01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:27.720 so he got there was probably at one time there 1947 01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:29.640 was probably like eight or nine of us, maybe ten 1948 01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:33.760 of us that we were extras in movies. This is 1949 01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:38.520 at the filming of die Hard three. It was filmed 1950 01:39:39.279 --> 01:39:42.520 I think this was in Washington Heights. It was at 1951 01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:45.720 a school and it was apparently you know, Bruce Willis 1952 01:39:45.800 --> 01:39:48.279 had ab there was a bomb in one of the schools. 1953 01:39:48.399 --> 01:39:51.600 Oh yeah, yeah, yep, that this is where. This is 1954 01:39:51.640 --> 01:39:55.159 where that was for Diehard three. It was a good 1955 01:39:55.199 --> 01:39:56.840 little you know, we would do it every once in 1956 01:39:56.880 --> 01:39:58.840 a while. And what made it fun is that it 1957 01:39:58.960 --> 01:40:01.479 was you know, it was all you know, everybody together. 1958 01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:03.920 I kind of felt bad for all the other people 1959 01:40:03.960 --> 01:40:05.880 that were doing extra work because like they were all 1960 01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:07.039 like struggling. 1961 01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:11.800 People trying to you don't make much money, you don't 1962 01:40:11.840 --> 01:40:14.720 make much money. No, but we were doing it as fun. 1963 01:40:15.359 --> 01:40:18.000 And you know, we all because we were in two 1964 01:40:18.119 --> 01:40:21.000 movies and you know, yeah, I think the rule was 1965 01:40:21.039 --> 01:40:23.000 you had to be in two movies and then you 1966 01:40:23.119 --> 01:40:27.000 could get your card. Yeah, we were all insane. So 1967 01:40:27.159 --> 01:40:29.279 then we're all now we're all getting our you know, 1968 01:40:29.359 --> 01:40:33.239 getting our head shots done and trying to get other movies. 1969 01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:34.079 So we were all doing it. 1970 01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:37.199 Dude, that's hilarious, Like, well, you never know like what 1971 01:40:37.319 --> 01:40:39.600 guys are doing right, like in each firehouse, there's so 1972 01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:42.600 many different avenues guys, but we're The fun. 1973 01:40:42.560 --> 01:40:45.119 Is because we all did it together. You know. That's 1974 01:40:45.159 --> 01:40:48.920 what made it so much fun. You know. Uh it 1975 01:40:49.039 --> 01:40:52.039 was that's that's me and Nicole Kidman. That that was 1976 01:40:52.119 --> 01:40:55.880 the peacemaker. Uh I forget what you hear? 1977 01:40:55.920 --> 01:41:01.159 That is she hot, like really hot up close, very skinny. 1978 01:41:01.159 --> 01:41:04.399 Very thin. You know the movies you think, yeah, the 1979 01:41:04.520 --> 01:41:09.039 movies does put weight on you? She was very thick. 1980 01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:13.680 Look at him, Yeah, give it a stiff. Did you 1981 01:41:13.720 --> 01:41:14.920 sniff her up there or anything? 1982 01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:23.640 I know? It was those were they were they were fun. Fun. 1983 01:41:23.920 --> 01:41:27.000 Actually that set, I did meet a girl and take 1984 01:41:27.079 --> 01:41:29.039 her out on the date and she ended up being 1985 01:41:29.079 --> 01:41:31.239 a lush we were at the we were. I took 1986 01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:35.760 it to some place in Irish. What's that place? What's 1987 01:41:35.800 --> 01:41:41.199 that place in Manhattan that's right uh, across from across 1988 01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:43.279 from where the U N is. It's kind of like 1989 01:41:43.399 --> 01:41:47.479 sits up high. So no, no, no, it's it's it's 1990 01:41:47.520 --> 01:41:48.760 an area of Manhattan. 1991 01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:51.159 We were. 1992 01:41:51.239 --> 01:41:57.399 We were city. No, no, city brunch, not co Op City. 1993 01:41:57.520 --> 01:41:58.880 It's uh, what the hell is the name of that 1994 01:41:58.960 --> 01:41:59.520 place over there? 1995 01:41:59.520 --> 01:41:59.960 I know where it is? 1996 01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:02.560 Well, it doesn't matter. That's what he lived over there. 1997 01:42:02.880 --> 01:42:07.159 But we went to some Mexican place and she got stewed, 1998 01:42:07.560 --> 01:42:09.800 and she's getting up to go use the bathroom, bumping 1999 01:42:09.840 --> 01:42:10.840 into tables. 2000 01:42:10.520 --> 01:42:15.520 And I'm like, she was like, Skytown? Is it town? 2001 01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:15.760 No? 2002 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:17.800 That Stytown's all the way downtown. 2003 01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:21.920 Yeah, what do you know? What do you know in town? 2004 01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:24.600 Though I forget the name, it doesn't it doesn't matter. 2005 01:42:25.039 --> 01:42:28.199 It's drunk irrelevant, drunk in town. 2006 01:42:28.279 --> 01:42:30.159 She was from drunkingantytown. 2007 01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:34.399 Oh God, give me another one. 2008 01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:35.239 Here we go. 2009 01:42:36.520 --> 01:42:36.640 Uh. 2010 01:42:36.920 --> 01:42:39.600 So that's I was in forty one there. That's when 2011 01:42:39.640 --> 01:42:42.760 they were tearing down the old stadium. So they uh, 2012 01:42:43.880 --> 01:42:46.760 they built the old, they built the new stadium first 2013 01:42:47.399 --> 01:42:50.279 just north of the old Yankee Stadium, and then when 2014 01:42:50.279 --> 01:42:52.600 they were done building a new one, they started tearing 2015 01:42:52.680 --> 01:42:55.560 down the old one. So we got really tight with 2016 01:42:55.680 --> 01:42:58.039 the safety company there. I can't remember the name of 2017 01:42:58.079 --> 01:43:01.760 the safety company, but the guy there was top notch 2018 01:43:01.800 --> 01:43:03.960 and he always let us come in and you know, 2019 01:43:04.159 --> 01:43:06.039 just kind of watch how they were doing it. You 2020 01:43:06.119 --> 01:43:09.560 can see how that section like they were the whole 2021 01:43:10.119 --> 01:43:14.960 uh row of seating. There's like they're in sections and 2022 01:43:15.039 --> 01:43:17.680 they would cut the concrete go all the way down 2023 01:43:18.520 --> 01:43:20.760 and then they put in the see that crane there. 2024 01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:22.840 They they'd have like five or six of those things 2025 01:43:22.880 --> 01:43:25.880 in a couple of excavators and they would put cables 2026 01:43:26.079 --> 01:43:29.760 on top on the cement and then pull the entire 2027 01:43:29.920 --> 01:43:33.159 section into the middle until it just collapsed. And then 2028 01:43:33.199 --> 01:43:36.439 they would you know, demo it and carry it away. 2029 01:43:36.520 --> 01:43:39.479 But that's how they pulled it, pulled it apart. Was interesting, 2030 01:43:41.600 --> 01:43:44.199 but it was sad. You know, I'm a great stadium. 2031 01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:48.640 It was a great stadium. Any seats I asked not 2032 01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:52.279 grab any seats. I haven't asked me that before. 2033 01:43:52.439 --> 01:43:56.439 I got a couple from Shay one actually one remember 2034 01:43:56.479 --> 01:43:58.560 if they had a pile like a mountain high. Were 2035 01:43:58.600 --> 01:43:59.560 you there then when. 2036 01:43:59.439 --> 01:44:01.880 They Yeah, I was off that day. 2037 01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:04.119 And then guys brought a whole bunch back and I said, okay, 2038 01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:06.960 I'm gonna take one, and then they were all gone, everybody, yeah, 2039 01:44:07.199 --> 01:44:07.880 that's taking them. 2040 01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:10.600 I just took one seat and one set of seats 2041 01:44:10.600 --> 01:44:13.039 and I put them to give it to my son. 2042 01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:17.319 But as you know, some of them a bitch, greedy bastards. 2043 01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:22.800 Oh Water Rescue nice, Yeah, that was swift Water. 2044 01:44:23.199 --> 01:44:27.680 Swift Water training that was in You know, when you're 2045 01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:31.439 going down ninety five through like going into Baltimore and 2046 01:44:31.640 --> 01:44:36.640 is that huge bridge, we just think it's that's Quhana River. Maybe, yes, 2047 01:44:36.720 --> 01:44:38.560 I think that's that's where that was. We were doing 2048 01:44:38.640 --> 01:44:39.600 training on that river. 2049 01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:45.199 Mikey Wood in the corner the roof bro that was. 2050 01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:48.119 That Freddy Hill there on the right and Mike Wood. 2051 01:44:49.159 --> 01:44:51.960 Wouldn't you that's some tough training man. 2052 01:44:52.439 --> 01:44:52.640 Yeah. 2053 01:44:52.720 --> 01:44:54.359 Yeah, not hotter than. 2054 01:44:55.520 --> 01:44:58.039 Actually, somebody can actually ty that. There's no doubt. 2055 01:44:59.439 --> 01:44:59.800 What was that. 2056 01:45:00.640 --> 01:45:02.880 Somebody could die at swift forward to training. When you're 2057 01:45:02.920 --> 01:45:04.880 doing that, there's no doubt somebody could die. 2058 01:45:05.640 --> 01:45:09.560 It's no joke. Some people are not some people don't 2059 01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:13.479 so that so this picture is actually a little bit 2060 01:45:13.560 --> 01:45:16.680 more recent. This is right after Joe Murphy, who's in 2061 01:45:16.760 --> 01:45:19.520 the bagpipe band, passed away. This is right after his funeral. 2062 01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:24.640 The guy right to my left, that's John Daly from Ireland, 2063 01:45:25.720 --> 01:45:27.600 and Damien is all the way to the right. These 2064 01:45:27.640 --> 01:45:31.800 are two guys that are in the Dublin Fibergate Bagpipe Band. 2065 01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:37.479 We've been friends with these guys since I'm since I'm 2066 01:45:37.600 --> 01:45:40.640 in the band, I mean thirty thirty years I'm in 2067 01:45:40.680 --> 01:45:43.279 the band, so I've known this guy for thirty years. 2068 01:45:43.279 --> 01:45:45.199 I met him right out of the gate. We've been 2069 01:45:45.359 --> 01:45:51.880 great friends the whole time. And it's just it's nice 2070 01:45:51.960 --> 01:45:58.680 to have these acquaintances. You know, across the pond, who's 2071 01:45:58.720 --> 01:46:01.439 the tall guy in the middle people, that's Tommy Kneen. 2072 01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:04.880 He's the captain seventy five engine right now, all right, 2073 01:46:05.439 --> 01:46:09.359 that's familiar. And then is that the guy is now Bronx, 2074 01:46:09.840 --> 01:46:11.439 the Brooklyn Borough commander. 2075 01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:14.199 Is that the guy who said that you said, the 2076 01:46:14.319 --> 01:46:15.920 gout on a plane from Florida to go back to 2077 01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:19.039 the island. Then he found out somebody waiting, jump back 2078 01:46:19.079 --> 01:46:20.359 on a plane and came back. 2079 01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:24.079 Right So John the guy right to my left. He 2080 01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:28.279 was in Florida with his family on vacation and he 2081 01:46:28.439 --> 01:46:32.359 flies home to Ireland and he lands in the airport 2082 01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:36.920 and gets a message that Joe Murphy passed away. He 2083 01:46:37.039 --> 01:46:38.960 gets right back on a plane and flies back to 2084 01:46:39.039 --> 01:46:39.439 New York. 2085 01:46:39.680 --> 01:46:42.000 Wow, that's a brother for you. 2086 01:46:42.520 --> 01:46:45.760 Yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah for sure. 2087 01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:50.279 While we're in the band, so the band used to 2088 01:46:51.119 --> 01:46:54.399 go to Ireland every other year. Billy Hopkins is the 2089 01:46:54.439 --> 01:46:58.960 guy with the suit on in the back there or 2090 01:46:59.039 --> 01:46:59.960 the jacket and the shirt. 2091 01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:01.039 Uh. 2092 01:47:01.159 --> 01:47:03.880 He used to organize these trips every other year for 2093 01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:07.079 the band. And this this is nineteen ninety seven. This 2094 01:47:07.199 --> 01:47:10.399 particular year is the year that we went in memory 2095 01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:12.840 of Jim Corkoran. It was kind of like an in 2096 01:47:13.039 --> 01:47:16.039 memory of Jim Corkoran trip to Ireland. So we went 2097 01:47:16.079 --> 01:47:21.760 to Scotland first and we competed in the World Bagpipe 2098 01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:25.439 Championships in ninety seven, and then we were only in 2099 01:47:25.479 --> 01:47:27.239 Scotland for three days and then we came back to 2100 01:47:27.319 --> 01:47:31.319 Ireland and then I decided to propose to my wife 2101 01:47:31.479 --> 01:47:34.199 on equipse some more there. So that's that's that picture 2102 01:47:35.279 --> 01:47:38.439 in this picture, Liam all the way over there the 2103 01:47:38.520 --> 01:47:43.439 right limb. There's the guys that are no longer with us. 2104 01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:48.159 You got well. Left to right you have Billy Duffy 2105 01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:52.439 just passed last year, and Tommy McEnroe Sr. Has his 2106 01:47:52.560 --> 01:47:55.439 hand on my shouldered air behind my head. There that's 2107 01:47:55.520 --> 01:47:58.760 Joe Murphy who's passed. Jimmy Guinty died a couple of 2108 01:47:58.840 --> 01:48:02.960 years ago. Bronco was passed. And the guy, the guy 2109 01:48:03.039 --> 01:48:07.760 next to him is Tommy mctigue Jr. That's Tommy Mctigue's. 2110 01:48:07.279 --> 01:48:10.319 Song looks just like that's half the guys. 2111 01:48:10.399 --> 01:48:16.720 Man. Yeah, sad crazy there said that. You know, it's like, 2112 01:48:17.239 --> 01:48:19.479 you know, this is it's it's part of your family. 2113 01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:22.640 You know, the fire departments are family. The band is 2114 01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:25.399 part of the family, and it's it's it's sad to see, 2115 01:48:26.359 --> 01:48:27.159 you know, but that's life. 2116 01:48:27.560 --> 01:48:31.159 Yeah, you know that. We gotta say congratulations. You're a 2117 01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:33.359 part of the I Married Up Club too, just as 2118 01:48:33.399 --> 01:48:35.760 I am. And Louis is so good for you. That's up, 2119 01:48:36.479 --> 01:48:42.600 I Married Up club. What else you got, oh some hockey? 2120 01:48:42.680 --> 01:48:45.000 Nobody cares about hockey? Uh you know what. 2121 01:48:47.880 --> 01:48:55.039 Nobody That Burger on the right, that's Burger yeap on 2122 01:48:55.079 --> 01:48:57.680 the bottom of the right and then Dennis Devlon is 2123 01:48:57.760 --> 01:49:01.600 in between me and Burger. Dennis was my captain. Uh 2124 01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:06.119 Dennis Dennis, Uh, he got promoted to battalion chief right 2125 01:49:06.199 --> 01:49:11.199 for four nine to eleven, and he ended up dying 2126 01:49:11.199 --> 01:49:13.279 on nine to eleven. Now this is kind of a 2127 01:49:13.359 --> 01:49:18.479 crazy story, but uh, September eleventh, you know, we were 2128 01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:23.479 down there. I was at my firehouse and we all 2129 01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:25.159 loaded in the back of my pickup truck and we 2130 01:49:25.279 --> 01:49:26.039 went down there. 2131 01:49:27.760 --> 01:49:28.000 After. 2132 01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:30.880 You know, we got down there around three o'clock in 2133 01:49:30.920 --> 01:49:35.640 the afternoon, and we were doing our thing, you know, 2134 01:49:35.800 --> 01:49:38.359 searching on the pile the whole night. And then the 2135 01:49:38.479 --> 01:49:41.880 next morning we go back to the firehouse. As soon 2136 01:49:41.920 --> 01:49:44.720 as we get to the firehouse, we there's a call 2137 01:49:45.359 --> 01:49:51.199 from Dennis Devlin's wife to the firehouse. She's saying that 2138 01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:55.560 she has Dennis on the phone and he's trapped and 2139 01:49:55.680 --> 01:49:59.680 he's under the foot bridge and Edie wants a turkey 2140 01:49:59.760 --> 01:50:02.359 Sam lunch in water, which is something he would have done, 2141 01:50:02.479 --> 01:50:05.760 like I could pay. Dennis was he was a uh 2142 01:50:06.239 --> 01:50:08.640 he was an iron worker. Uh not in Iowa. He 2143 01:50:08.760 --> 01:50:14.560 was a sandhog freaking you know, u larger than life 2144 01:50:16.039 --> 01:50:16.600 human being. 2145 01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:17.520 Uh he was. 2146 01:50:17.640 --> 01:50:21.640 He was a great captain. I but we all we're 2147 01:50:21.640 --> 01:50:25.119 all like, this is like crazy, He's she's got him 2148 01:50:25.119 --> 01:50:29.960 on the phone. So now everybody's getting there. Now we're 2149 01:50:29.960 --> 01:50:33.279 get back in and now we're driving back down we 2150 01:50:33.399 --> 01:50:36.079 had just got back. We're driving back down there now 2151 01:50:36.439 --> 01:50:38.399 and we're going under the footbridge. Now we're trying to 2152 01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:41.359 get communication with his wife, Like, what is there any 2153 01:50:41.399 --> 01:50:43.800 more information? She's still on the phone with him. What's 2154 01:50:43.880 --> 01:50:46.039 going on? You know, this is what we're talking about. 2155 01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:49.720 Less than twenty four hours after, you know, or just 2156 01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:56.279 just over twenty four hours after the collapse. So nothing, 2157 01:50:56.680 --> 01:50:59.680 There was no more communication, no more nothing. And what 2158 01:50:59.800 --> 01:51:01.600 we find out I don't know if we found out 2159 01:51:01.640 --> 01:51:06.680 that night or the next day. What happened was Jimmy McClusky, 2160 01:51:07.520 --> 01:51:13.039 who is Dennis's best friend, had Dennis's cell phone in 2161 01:51:13.159 --> 01:51:17.000 his back pocket and he was at a deli a 2162 01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:22.399 turkey sandwich and water. Somehow redial must have you know, 2163 01:51:22.800 --> 01:51:26.960 so the phone his self, Dennis's cell phone is called 2164 01:51:27.039 --> 01:51:32.680 the wife in Jimmy McCluskey's bound. Oh, it was such 2165 01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:35.600 a it was such a crazy story, such a really 2166 01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:36.880 really weird. 2167 01:51:36.680 --> 01:51:39.560 I don't think I ever heard something like that that's yeah. 2168 01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:41.680 Crazy, you know, like there was such a window there 2169 01:51:42.239 --> 01:51:46.239 that we had hope, you know what I mean. And 2170 01:51:46.319 --> 01:51:49.279 it was so early, and you don't know what, never 2171 01:51:49.359 --> 01:51:56.760 wind up finding him, you know what. I'm embarrassed to say. 2172 01:51:56.800 --> 01:52:01.039 I actually we don't remember half this either, man. I 2173 01:52:01.119 --> 01:52:01.800 don't remember that. 2174 01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:03.680 It's all a blur. 2175 01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:07.079 In fact, I had a lot of guilt with his funeral. 2176 01:52:07.119 --> 01:52:10.279 I remember when they finally had his funeral with the 2177 01:52:10.319 --> 01:52:12.800 bagpipe and we're trying to play it all these different things, 2178 01:52:12.880 --> 01:52:17.880 and I believe it was Dennis. His His funeral was 2179 01:52:17.920 --> 01:52:19.840 the same day as Tommy Foley, and I was good 2180 01:52:19.880 --> 01:52:24.880 friends with Tommy. And I had to go to the 2181 01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:29.079 beginning of one funeral and then leave, and then to 2182 01:52:29.279 --> 01:52:31.600 to get to the end of the the next funeral. 2183 01:52:32.039 --> 01:52:34.760 And I was guilty that I wasn't at both for 2184 01:52:34.840 --> 01:52:35.960 the whole thing, you know. 2185 01:52:36.720 --> 01:52:40.239 But you guys were spread thin back then. Bro Oh 2186 01:52:40.319 --> 01:52:41.119 my god. Yeah. 2187 01:52:41.720 --> 01:52:41.920 You know. 2188 01:52:43.800 --> 01:52:48.560 Wally Blum, you know, talk about its ebody a Wally 2189 01:52:50.279 --> 01:52:52.039 Wally Blum, you know he was he was always at 2190 01:52:52.079 --> 01:52:53.359 the rock and he did so. 2191 01:52:53.800 --> 01:52:53.920 Uh. 2192 01:52:54.319 --> 01:52:57.079 I had gotten in touch with Wally and while I 2193 01:52:57.159 --> 01:52:59.720 asked him if we could get vans for the band, 2194 01:52:59.840 --> 01:53:03.640 so that so that we could you know, spread out 2195 01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:07.359 guys going to all the different funerals. And while he 2196 01:53:07.399 --> 01:53:09.119 gave us five, he was he was the guy in 2197 01:53:09.239 --> 01:53:13.319 charge of getting vans out to companies and you know everything. 2198 01:53:13.399 --> 01:53:15.960 So he got us five vans and there were two 2199 01:53:16.039 --> 01:53:19.039 on Long Island, one upstate, and two in the city. 2200 01:53:19.880 --> 01:53:22.840 And that's how we got guys to go to all 2201 01:53:22.880 --> 01:53:24.399 the you know, different funerals. I mean, we had a 2202 01:53:24.439 --> 01:53:25.479 department van to do it. 2203 01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:28.039 M But. 2204 01:53:30.119 --> 01:53:31.119 I can't believe that story. 2205 01:53:31.760 --> 01:53:33.399 You got two of them. Well, he's got the one 2206 01:53:33.439 --> 01:53:34.800 with his sister and now this one. 2207 01:53:35.319 --> 01:53:35.880 What's that? 2208 01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:39.119 You got two crazy stories? The one we you met 2209 01:53:39.159 --> 01:53:43.199 your sister and now this one. Yeah, would have known 2210 01:53:43.279 --> 01:53:44.920 this would have been such a crazy show tonight. 2211 01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:46.600 Oh, I know, I know, I know you knew. 2212 01:53:46.920 --> 01:53:49.119 I was like, well, the guy never said hello to me. 2213 01:53:50.319 --> 01:53:52.520 Well, you know, when you're a seventy five and the 2214 01:53:52.720 --> 01:53:54.239 thirty three and then you know, you don't talk to 2215 01:53:54.279 --> 01:53:56.000 the MEA Pitton's on the job, you know what I mean? 2216 01:53:56.439 --> 01:53:58.119 That works maybe so. 2217 01:53:58.159 --> 01:54:00.079 Maybe I'm lucky that he's still talking to me. A 2218 01:54:00.159 --> 01:54:00.960 big one on three. 2219 01:54:00.880 --> 01:54:06.479 Guys, you know, can we do. Uh can we do 2220 01:54:06.600 --> 01:54:10.479 a uh you want, Cap, I'd like to uh toast 2221 01:54:11.479 --> 01:54:15.600 to uh Tony MSTRELLI. Tony passed away. 2222 01:54:16.520 --> 01:54:16.640 Uh. 2223 01:54:16.960 --> 01:54:20.920 His funerals this Wednesday. A great guy. I went to 2224 01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:23.439 college with him. We both were in Courtland together. 2225 01:54:24.479 --> 01:54:24.640 Uh. 2226 01:54:24.920 --> 01:54:26.880 I played football my first year while I was there. 2227 01:54:26.920 --> 01:54:29.039 He was. He's the only guy that remembers that I 2228 01:54:29.079 --> 01:54:29.640 even was there. 2229 01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:31.319 Uh. 2230 01:54:31.920 --> 01:54:36.439 But a great man, a great human being, a teddy bear. 2231 01:54:37.319 --> 01:54:37.479 Uh. 2232 01:54:37.880 --> 01:54:39.880 We're all gonna miss him. Such a great guy. 2233 01:54:40.840 --> 01:54:42.000 And he just retired too. 2234 01:54:42.119 --> 01:54:45.239 Huh yeah, yeah, what did what did he have? 2235 01:54:45.359 --> 01:54:45.880 Yeah? Cancer? 2236 01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:46.399 What did he have? 2237 01:54:46.760 --> 01:54:47.399 Pancreatic? 2238 01:54:48.159 --> 01:54:51.239 Oh goodness, gracious m hm, that sucks. 2239 01:54:51.279 --> 01:54:53.199 I'm gonna give him the five bells line of duty. 2240 01:55:05.279 --> 01:55:06.119 Wow, that's crazy. 2241 01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:07.279 Another one? 2242 01:55:08.600 --> 01:55:09.920 You got some other shoutouts? 2243 01:55:10.039 --> 01:55:10.199 Rough? 2244 01:55:10.319 --> 01:55:11.479 Hold on, we got to get the guys. 2245 01:55:12.039 --> 01:55:16.479 Oh my goodness. You know what time it is? What 2246 01:55:16.600 --> 01:55:18.960 time is at a time for shoutouts? I can tell 2247 01:55:18.960 --> 01:55:20.199 you that much time for what. 2248 01:55:20.520 --> 01:55:28.760 Is time for? Alright? Cap? 2249 01:55:30.119 --> 01:55:33.159 Now you can take it away, old skip tip of 2250 01:55:33.239 --> 01:55:39.319 the day. All right, Well, I hope that we'll you 2251 01:55:39.479 --> 01:55:44.159 never ever have to give a May Day. But this 2252 01:55:44.319 --> 01:55:46.039 is this was a tip that was given to me, 2253 01:55:46.159 --> 01:55:49.119 I think actually Liam Flowherty might give me this tip 2254 01:55:49.239 --> 01:55:56.279 twenty five years ago, but practice giving yourself a may day, uh, 2255 01:55:57.600 --> 01:55:59.319 in your car and your way home from work, on 2256 01:55:59.399 --> 01:56:02.239 your way to where go through the whole thing. 2257 01:56:03.119 --> 01:56:03.279 Uh. 2258 01:56:03.560 --> 01:56:06.199 You want to be concise in your may day if 2259 01:56:06.359 --> 01:56:08.800 if you ever have to give one for yourself, so 2260 01:56:09.279 --> 01:56:11.960 make sure it rolls off your tongue without you even thinking. 2261 01:56:12.840 --> 01:56:17.359 I know it's a lot easier to say, but it's 2262 01:56:17.680 --> 01:56:20.720 I think it's a good practice to every once in 2263 01:56:20.760 --> 01:56:23.399 a while just practice giving yourself a may Day. That's 2264 01:56:23.560 --> 01:56:29.720 that's uh. That's number one. Another another little tidbit. This 2265 01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:34.319 was I'm gonna go back to Dennis Devlin. This this 2266 01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:38.960 is more for the officers. But Dennis Devlin, when when 2267 01:56:38.960 --> 01:56:42.079 I was in seventy five, we had a we had 2268 01:56:42.119 --> 01:56:47.119 an operation one day where we I don't even remember 2269 01:56:47.159 --> 01:56:49.880 what we did, but it was something that it didn't 2270 01:56:50.680 --> 01:56:53.680 it didn't like we weren't going to get a unit 2271 01:56:53.720 --> 01:56:56.720 citation or anything like that. But Dennis wrote a nice 2272 01:56:56.840 --> 01:56:59.359 note to the whole to all the guys that work 2273 01:56:59.439 --> 01:57:01.159 that day, and he he pinned it up in the kitchen, 2274 01:57:01.880 --> 01:57:05.279 and you know what, to me, that felt better than 2275 01:57:05.319 --> 01:57:08.199 getting a unit citation that he just you know, acknowledged 2276 01:57:08.399 --> 01:57:11.199 the work, the job that we did at this particular job. 2277 01:57:11.720 --> 01:57:15.399 So I always remembered that little tidbit and when I 2278 01:57:15.560 --> 01:57:17.640 was when I I'm not going to say we're company 2279 01:57:17.720 --> 01:57:20.439 because there's some other stuff involved, but I did that. 2280 01:57:20.560 --> 01:57:25.039 One day we had an operation and it was in Manhattan, 2281 01:57:26.079 --> 01:57:30.199 and I wrote a note. They the guys did a 2282 01:57:30.239 --> 01:57:32.800 great job, not a unit citation, they just did a 2283 01:57:32.880 --> 01:57:36.119 great job, and I wrote it. I just wrote a note. 2284 01:57:36.159 --> 01:57:37.359 I put it up in the kitchen. I was a 2285 01:57:37.399 --> 01:57:42.119 covering officer. But I gotta tell you that those guys 2286 01:57:42.199 --> 01:57:47.279 that were working, they respected that so much. And any 2287 01:57:47.439 --> 01:57:52.680 time I ever worked with them again, it was I 2288 01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:56.239 can't even explain it, like these guys were they felt, 2289 01:57:56.960 --> 01:58:00.159 you know, that it was the right thing, and you know, 2290 01:58:00.199 --> 01:58:03.000 it wasn't a unit citation, but it meant more to them. 2291 01:58:03.159 --> 01:58:06.479 So you know, give the guys sometimes less is more, 2292 01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:10.039 you know. And I always said it's the little things. 2293 01:58:10.119 --> 01:58:13.960 The little things matter the most. And one last thing 2294 01:58:15.439 --> 01:58:21.319 is communication. I think everybody probably always brings up communication, 2295 01:58:21.479 --> 01:58:26.319 but if we lose communication, everything falls apart. So we 2296 01:58:26.439 --> 01:58:30.199 want to always keep our reports concise. Concise is really 2297 01:58:30.279 --> 01:58:33.520 the key. That's the that's the key to keeping the 2298 01:58:33.600 --> 01:58:39.960 information good. And have big ears and a small mouth. 2299 01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:46.319 Somebody yelling on the radio. I always feel it's it 2300 01:58:46.520 --> 01:58:49.800 just causes it causes havoc. So big ears, little mouth. 2301 01:58:49.880 --> 01:58:51.680 You got to say something. You're obviously going to say it, 2302 01:58:51.920 --> 01:58:55.560 but say it calmly and say it concisely. And that's 2303 01:58:55.600 --> 01:59:01.359 all I got, right, I did rough. 2304 01:59:01.439 --> 01:59:03.520 I told you before that there was two guys and 2305 01:59:03.600 --> 01:59:06.880 the other guy was your former captain from Tablada one seventeen. 2306 01:59:07.079 --> 01:59:12.680 Captain Flood passed away last week too. Yes, him the 2307 01:59:12.720 --> 01:59:14.800 five bills, I said, it was a lot of duty, 2308 01:59:25.000 --> 01:59:27.279 all right, roofie my god. 2309 01:59:28.000 --> 01:59:31.760 I I have two quick shout outs. Uh you got 2310 01:59:31.960 --> 01:59:34.479 uh the gofund me there? 2311 01:59:35.239 --> 01:59:36.960 Which one do you with? The baby? 2312 01:59:37.359 --> 01:59:38.680 The baby baby kier. 2313 01:59:40.039 --> 01:59:40.560 I pulled up a. 2314 01:59:40.560 --> 01:59:41.399 Picture, O, my god. 2315 01:59:41.479 --> 01:59:43.960 So this We got quite a few of these, but 2316 01:59:44.159 --> 01:59:45.560 some of them just stick out to me. This is 2317 01:59:45.880 --> 01:59:48.479 Timmy Sullivan from one hundred and eight truck said this 2318 01:59:48.640 --> 01:59:53.039 to me, just uh a member of the company. Obviously, 2319 01:59:53.279 --> 01:59:56.079 Uh it looks like they're raising they already reached a goal, 2320 01:59:56.560 --> 01:59:58.880 but uh, just something to take a look at Uh. 2321 01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:02.680 I guess UH had a tough time since the daughter 2322 02:00:02.840 --> 02:00:05.560 was born a couple of months ago emergency C section. 2323 02:00:05.960 --> 02:00:09.399 She's up in Boston now receiving specialized care. So he 2324 02:00:09.520 --> 02:00:11.039 had sent this out to me to give the guys 2325 02:00:11.319 --> 02:00:13.199 a shout out for one hundred and eighth truck and 2326 02:00:13.399 --> 02:00:16.199 if you can help out, help out. It's a little 2327 02:00:16.239 --> 02:00:19.520 bit counts brother fund, the first fund first dot com 2328 02:00:19.720 --> 02:00:22.680 and it's helped baby Kira Adams. 2329 02:00:23.039 --> 02:00:26.600 And then I'll post it the chat, thank you, thank you. 2330 02:00:26.760 --> 02:00:33.039 And then I have my boy Bobby Benome. Yeah oh. 2331 02:00:34.439 --> 02:00:38.000 Yeah, yeah, so Humble Heroes, these guys, they were on 2332 02:00:38.079 --> 02:00:39.960 the show. I think probably it's probably like three or 2333 02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:44.159 four years ago. Yeah, he gets he gets stressed up 2334 02:00:45.119 --> 02:00:48.159 and he goes to the hospitals, to to the pediatric 2335 02:00:48.399 --> 02:00:49.880 ICU at Saint Luke's Hospital. 2336 02:00:50.399 --> 02:00:50.520 Uh. 2337 02:00:50.600 --> 02:00:53.520 They partnered with Hot nine to eleven Foundation and they 2338 02:00:54.039 --> 02:00:56.479 they basically do a lot of great stuff for these 2339 02:00:56.560 --> 02:00:59.960 kids that are really at uh. You know, I guess 2340 02:01:00.199 --> 02:01:04.520 maybe don't have much hope. So he's always done this. 2341 02:01:04.600 --> 02:01:06.319 He always sends me to pictures all the time. He 2342 02:01:06.399 --> 02:01:10.039 did say, hey, if you could go to go to 2343 02:01:10.159 --> 02:01:15.640 their humble heroes. I think it's hh what's the website 2344 02:01:16.159 --> 02:01:20.680 hhfdny dot org. And if you donate right now, they 2345 02:01:20.760 --> 02:01:23.960 have a donor who has pledged to match all their 2346 02:01:24.039 --> 02:01:27.960 donations within the next one hundred days. So he was 2347 02:01:28.000 --> 02:01:30.800 pretty excited about that. So, you know, he always sends 2348 02:01:30.840 --> 02:01:33.520 me to stuff I always enjoy. Around this time he goes, 2349 02:01:34.119 --> 02:01:38.399 you know, to visit the kids during the holidays. So yeah, 2350 02:01:38.720 --> 02:01:39.520 he does a great job. 2351 02:01:39.600 --> 02:01:39.720 Man. 2352 02:01:39.760 --> 02:01:42.680 Good for him doing the Lord's work. 2353 02:01:43.239 --> 02:01:48.439 That's it, baby. 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Tip of 2386 02:03:57.840 --> 02:04:00.760 the day is we always talk about we actually we're 2387 02:04:00.760 --> 02:04:03.039 just talking about this in the pre show, right, Kap 2388 02:04:03.680 --> 02:04:06.159 getting early detection with Rob Brown going to get everything 2389 02:04:06.239 --> 02:04:08.199 taking care of it. But we always speak that me 2390 02:04:08.279 --> 02:04:10.399 and a little But what I'm gonna tell you also 2391 02:04:10.640 --> 02:04:15.000 is very important because it happened to my dad. Before 2392 02:04:15.359 --> 02:04:17.840 God forbid, they do pick something up on you, you 2393 02:04:17.960 --> 02:04:21.119 need to get your finances in order, as in an 2394 02:04:21.199 --> 02:04:24.359 insurance policy for your wife and kids, because after they 2395 02:04:24.399 --> 02:04:26.119 picked something up, it's a hell of a lot more 2396 02:04:26.159 --> 02:04:29.159 difficult to get that insurance policy once you have something 2397 02:04:29.239 --> 02:04:33.520 that's diagnosed. So get out there and get yourself checked 2398 02:04:33.560 --> 02:04:35.520 out early, but also take care of your wife and 2399 02:04:35.600 --> 02:04:38.760 kids and get the insurance policy before they diagnose you 2400 02:04:38.840 --> 02:04:42.159 with something. And that's all I got. Kap, thank you 2401 02:04:42.279 --> 02:04:45.479 so much, great stories, great career, Thanks for coming on 2402 02:04:45.600 --> 02:04:48.880 the show. Thank you, Thank you guys, Ruffie, thanks for 2403 02:04:49.000 --> 02:04:50.640 finding this gem here. Good for you. 2404 02:04:52.319 --> 02:04:52.760 To find them. 2405 02:04:53.119 --> 02:04:55.399 Yeah, and don't forget to send your stuff please for 2406 02:04:55.479 --> 02:04:58.279 the cup of Joe and fuego to Coub's podcast at 2407 02:04:58.399 --> 02:05:00.880 gmail dot com. That would be you. I wrap cabbage. 2408 02:05:00.880 --> 02:05:03.079 I saw you, and I keep sending them in. I 2409 02:05:03.239 --> 02:05:05.079 just got something from tivodal rough. 2410 02:05:06.159 --> 02:05:11.960 We're talking about, oh my god, the next I will. 2411 02:05:11.800 --> 02:05:15.920 See you guys next week. All right. Until then, you 2412 02:05:16.000 --> 02:05:18.079 know what I always say, stay low and yo. 2413 02:05:18.680 --> 02:05:21.000 All Right, everybody, Timmy, thanks a lot. We'll see at 2414 02:05:21.000 --> 02:05:21.800 the big one, everybody. 2415 02:05:22.279 --> 02:05:24.600 All right, guys, we'll catch you on the top floor 2416 02:05:24.680 --> 02:05:24.960 this time. 2417 02:05:25.039 --> 02:05:25.479 How about that. 2418 02:05:29.720 --> 02:05:32.359 I don't have a top floor right here anyway. Good Night,