Speaker 1: Paul Buler calm Bacon on the table. The Brutal Murder
Speaker 1: of Mamie Sherman a true crime short story by Richard O. Jones.
Speaker 1: Mamie Sherman was not anxious to share the news with
Speaker 1: her husband. She had gotten a job offer to be
Speaker 1: a telegraph operator at the Cincinnati, Hamilton and Dayton Railway,
Speaker 1: the c CH and D station in Glendale, a job
Speaker 1: that paid twenty five dollars a month and a chance
Speaker 1: for advancement, but she worried, knowing that her husband would
Speaker 1: not take it well. She had only been married to
Speaker 1: Charles Victor Sherman for just over a year, but she
Speaker 1: knew that he was a jealous man and did not
Speaker 1: want her to work. They'd been going around and around
Speaker 1: about it, and she'd been trying to find a good
Speaker 1: way to break the news to him. When the iceman,
Speaker 1: William Brock came around about ten am to make his
Speaker 1: daily delivery, Mamie was not at home. He found her
Speaker 1: a few doors down talking to a neighbor, and they
Speaker 1: walked back to her house together. She seemed angry about
Speaker 1: something and remarked, there will be hell here again tonight.
Speaker 1: What do you mean The Iceman asked, and she told
Speaker 1: him about the job offer. He told her, you should
Speaker 1: just stay at home. Then Charlie makes money enough. I
Speaker 1: don't care what he thinks, she said. Brock noticed that
Speaker 1: the hatchet the Shermans normally kept near the ice box
Speaker 1: was not in its usual spot. He didn't see it anywhere.
Speaker 1: Mamie did not have to worry about how to break
Speaker 1: the news to Charlie. You already knew Sherman was a
Speaker 1: Sherman was a switchman at the ch and d Yard
Speaker 1: in Hamilton, Ohio, a few blocks from where they lived
Speaker 1: at four to one seven Sycamore Street, just around the
Speaker 1: corner from where Alfred Knapp had strangled his wife Hannah
Speaker 1: in her sleep two years earlier. About two pm on
Speaker 1: the afternoon of August twenty fourth, nineteen oh four, two
Speaker 1: days after Maymie's thirty first birthday, and a week after
Speaker 1: Napp had paid the price for his crime in the
Speaker 1: electric chair at the Ohio State Penitentiary, Sherman was working
Speaker 1: in the yard when he received a message from the
Speaker 1: chief dispatcher in Dayton, Joe Hoffman, asking if Mamie would
Speaker 1: consider taking a job as the second operator at the
Speaker 1: Hamilton station instead of going to Glendale. He knew from
Speaker 1: the message that Mamie had gone behind his back looking
Speaker 1: for work, and he didn't like that. For one thing,
Speaker 1: her ex husband, Charles Steddding, was a telegraph operator at
Speaker 1: the Glendale station, and he didn't want her being around him.
Speaker 1: He didn't want her to be around any other man.
Speaker 1: She was his wife now, and he insisted that she
Speaker 1: would keep his house. He made a good seventy five
Speaker 1: dollars a month, sometimes more. There was no need for
Speaker 1: her to work. Sherman would later say, I walked up
Speaker 1: to the telegraph office and told the operator that I
Speaker 1: could answer that message myself and say no, she couldn't work.
Speaker 1: He then walked the block to their house and found
Speaker 1: Mamie standing at the back fence talking to a neighbor,
Speaker 1: Mabel Bunning. He asked her, why do you persist in
Speaker 1: wanting to work when you know I don't want you to.
Speaker 1: She said, we need the money, and the twenty five
Speaker 1: dollars would be as good for me as for anybody.
Speaker 1: He shouted at her, I can't keep you from working.
Speaker 1: If you go over there, you will be working for yourself.
Speaker 1: He wanted to fuss some more, but he heard his
Speaker 1: train coming from the south. They would talk about this later.
Speaker 1: He told her, Yeah, work to do. He ran to
Speaker 1: catch the trae and rode across the belt line to
Speaker 1: the Champion Coated paper Mill. There will be trouble here tonight,
Speaker 1: Mamie told missus Bunting. So she decided to cook a
Speaker 1: nice dinner of his favorite foods, fried bacon and stewed corn.
Speaker 1: She had the table nicely set and placed a cloth
Speaker 1: over the dishes on the table to await his arrival.
Speaker 1: Mamie was a pretty brunette, but a big girl, a
Speaker 1: muscular five feet nine inches one hundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 1: Her neighbors knew or as a good housekeeper who kept
Speaker 1: their home neatly furnished and immaculately clean, always in the
Speaker 1: best of order. Born Eva May Connery and Buyer's Junction,
Speaker 1: Jackson County, Ohio, her father was the postmaster and station agent.
Speaker 1: She picked up the nickname Mamie at age twelve and
Speaker 1: started using it as her proper name. She was married
Speaker 1: briefly to a boy named Dobbs at sixteen, but returned
Speaker 1: home a month later, and before she turned seventeen. Her
Speaker 1: father trained her in the telegraphy trade. When she was
Speaker 1: twenty four, she came to Cincinnati to work. She married
Speaker 1: Charles Stettings, a coworker at the Eighth Street Telegraph Office.
Speaker 1: They were happy for a few years. Then she took
Speaker 1: a job at the Hamilton Depot and found a room
Speaker 1: in a boarding house on Fourth Street, between Sycamore and Ludlow.
Speaker 1: There she met Charles Sherman. Stettings agreed to an amical divorce.
Speaker 1: He and Mami got along well, but he could see
Speaker 1: that she was infatuated with this other man and he
Speaker 1: did not want to impede her happiness. Mami and Charles
Speaker 1: Sherman married on June seventeenth, nineteen o three. They were
Speaker 1: both thirty years old. Steadings helped her pack and moved
Speaker 1: to Hamilton in a house at East Avenue in Chestnut Street.
Speaker 1: The Shermans moved to the Sycamore Street house on January
Speaker 1: twenty first, nineteen oh four, and that's when their troubles started.
Speaker 1: As neat and tidy as Mamie was, Sherman demanded more.
Speaker 1: While changing clothes one night after work, he berated her
Speaker 1: about the sloppy way she made the bed. If you
Speaker 1: don't like it, find yourself someplace else to sleep, she said.
Speaker 1: As she stormed down the stairs. She snapped, I'm getting
Speaker 1: tired of you anyhow. If you don't leave, I might.
Speaker 1: Sherman finished changing his clothes and followed her to find
Speaker 1: she had locked herself in the kitchen. He went out
Speaker 1: the front door and walked around the house to come
Speaker 1: in through the back door. As he walked in, she
Speaker 1: brandished a poker at him. What are you going to
Speaker 1: do with that, he demanded. I'm going to kill you
Speaker 1: if you lay hands on me. She yelled. What have
Speaker 1: I done that you treat me like this? He asked.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of the way you treat me, she said,
Speaker 1: putting down the poker and sitting in a chair, exasperated,
Speaker 1: You're always finding fault with me. Sherman went to her,
Speaker 1: got on his knees and asked her not to leave him.
Speaker 1: He told her that they got along together and he
Speaker 1: would do more to help her out, sweet talking until
Speaker 1: he got her in a better mood. Then they went
Speaker 1: upstairs for sex, but she was still distant and didn't
Speaker 1: speak to him for the rest of the night. Along
Speaker 1: about May and June, Sherman's mother, Mary, came for a
Speaker 1: long visit, but she and Mamie didn't get along. They
Speaker 1: eventually came to blows. Sherman was walking home after work,
Speaker 1: and as he turned the corner onto Sycamore Street, Mami
Speaker 1: came running out of the house. She cried, vic, either
Speaker 1: me or your mother's got to leave for good. She
Speaker 1: hit me over the head with the club we're at,
Speaker 1: Sherman asked suspiciously. She pulled the hair back off her forehead. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't see anything. Well, either she goes or I do,
Speaker 1: Mamie said. In recounting the story later, at his trial
Speaker 1: for his wife's murder, Sherman said that he reassured her
Speaker 1: that if anyone would go, it would be his mother.
Speaker 1: As much as he loved his mother, he said his
Speaker 1: loyalty would always be to his wife. When they got
Speaker 1: back in the house, Sherman asked his mother about the trouble.
Speaker 1: Mother laid it all on Mamie, saying that they got
Speaker 1: into a fuss about how to beat a carpet. She
Speaker 1: said Mamie pushed her down and hit her with the club,
Speaker 1: breaking her arm. He examined it. The arm was bruised,
Speaker 1: so Sherman took her to see a doctor, and then
Speaker 1: called his brother ed in Indiana to come and get
Speaker 1: their mother take her back home. While Mami busied herself
Speaker 1: making some of her husband's favorite foods in the hope
Speaker 1: of mending the rift between them and getting his permission
Speaker 1: to take the job, Sherman got the engine back in
Speaker 1: his house and got back to the yard about five
Speaker 1: thirty pm. He confronted the telegraph operator, Campbell. What did
Speaker 1: my wife telegraph to Hoffman, he asked. Campbell said he
Speaker 1: did not know that he was in the baggage room.
Speaker 1: When she answered, Sherman gave Campbell a tearing out for
Speaker 1: helping his wife look for work, told him to mind
Speaker 1: his own business. When his shift ended at six pm,
Speaker 1: he went straight home, eager to put an end to
Speaker 1: this nonsense. Mamy did not come out to meet him
Speaker 1: as she usually did, and that just made him matter.
Speaker 1: He walked around back and entered through the kitchen door,
Speaker 1: took off his coat and shoes, and put on his
Speaker 1: house slippers. He started across the kitchen to wash up
Speaker 1: at the sink and heard his wife call out from
Speaker 1: the parlor asking if he was ready for supper. Not yet,
Speaker 1: he shouted back. He dried his hands and walked into
Speaker 1: the dining room just as Mamie walked in the other door.
Speaker 1: Are you ready for supper? She asked again? Not yet,
Speaker 1: he said again, well, hurry up, she said she wanted
Speaker 1: to go to the Eagles picnic at Lindenwall Park. He
Speaker 1: wanted to finish the fuss he had started earlier. Why
Speaker 1: do you persist in wanting to work when you know
Speaker 1: I don't want you to, he asked her again, exactly
Speaker 1: as he had that afternoon. Did you give him an answer? Yes,
Speaker 1: she said, I'm taking the job and it's none of
Speaker 1: your business. I told you not to work, he said, now,
Speaker 1: I will show you. During his confession in the hospital
Speaker 1: later that night, perhaps before he had time to think
Speaker 1: about illegal defense, Sherman told Least Chief Sip that she
Speaker 1: didn't say anything, but gave him a look that he
Speaker 1: took as a sneer, and that was all he could take.
Speaker 1: He hit her in the face with his fist as
Speaker 1: hard as he could. Mami fell to the dining room floor,
Speaker 1: and he went after her, striking her again and again
Speaker 1: in the face until he felt it in his knuckles.
Speaker 1: Then he started to choke her. She kicked and sputtered,
Speaker 1: and after a long, painful moment, he let her go
Speaker 1: while he paced the floor fuming. She struggled to her feet.
Speaker 1: Before she could get all the way up, Sherman picked
Speaker 1: up one of the oak dining room chairs and struck
Speaker 1: her with it. She went back down, and he hit
Speaker 1: her with the chair until it broke into pieces. In
Speaker 1: this version of his story, Sherman was still boiling and
Speaker 1: stormed out of the house and to the coal shed
Speaker 1: out back. He grabbed a hatchet and came back into
Speaker 1: the dining room. Mamie was leaning back in a corner
Speaker 1: between the dish closet and the clothes closet. He struck
Speaker 1: her on top of the head. When she fell forward,
Speaker 1: he hit her again at the base of her skull.
Speaker 1: The corner would later say that either of the blows
Speaker 1: would have been sufficient, but Sherman was still in a rage.
Speaker 1: He said he did not remember taking a pocket knife
Speaker 1: from his work pants, nor stabbing his wife several times
Speaker 1: in the back, nor rolling her over to slash each
Speaker 1: side of her throat. He said he did not remember
Speaker 1: taking the knife to himself. The battle in the Sherman's
Speaker 1: dining room had caused enough of a ruckus to attract
Speaker 1: the neighbors, and missus Eee ran to the home of
Speaker 1: Mayor Charles Bosch on South fourth Street to block away,
Speaker 1: just next door to the house where Alfred Knapp strangled
Speaker 1: his wife. The mayor and his wife were sitting on
Speaker 1: the porch and watched missus Eee run past the house,
Speaker 1: coming to a sudden stop when she realized she had
Speaker 1: passed her destination and turned around excitedly telling the mayor
Speaker 1: that her neighbor was either killing or had killed his wife.
Speaker 1: Bosh grabbed his coat and hat and ran ahead of
Speaker 1: missus Eely. He knocked at the front door of the
Speaker 1: Sherman home, but the house was dark and no one answered,
Speaker 1: so he went to the side door and then tried
Speaker 1: the windows, all the time trying to get the attention
Speaker 1: of someone inside. He went all the way around to
Speaker 1: the kitchen door, who was unlocked, but just as Boss
Speaker 1: turned the knob and started to push it open, Jack Walsh,
Speaker 1: one of the neighbors in the crowd that had gathered
Speaker 1: around the yard, said don't go in there, Mayor, you
Speaker 1: don't know what might happen. I'd stay out. It sounded
Speaker 1: like good advice, so Bosh asked where he could find
Speaker 1: a telephone. Next door, said someone else, and without looking
Speaker 1: for a gate, Boss jumped the fence, went directly inside
Speaker 1: and called up police headquarters and ordered a wagon with
Speaker 1: as many officers as were available, without giving any details.
Speaker 1: But the alarm had already been raised, and when Bosh
Speaker 1: returned to the Sherman House, patrolman Joe Kramer and John
Speaker 1: Dooley had just derived. Bosh told Dooley to cover the
Speaker 1: back door while he and Kramer went in the front.
Speaker 1: The parlor was empty, the dining room, curtains drawn, was
Speaker 1: empty and in total darkness. Dooley came in from the kitchen,
Speaker 1: paused his eyes adjusting. Bosch spied a pair of legs
Speaker 1: lying alongside the dining room table. Here it is boys,
Speaker 1: strike a match, he said, as he fished one out
Speaker 1: of his pocket. He and Cramer both lit matches, enough
Speaker 1: light for them to see a man lying in a
Speaker 1: pool of blood, apparently dead. In the opposite corner, a
Speaker 1: woman was sitting on the floor, leaning back against the wall,
Speaker 1: definitely dead. Her hair disheveled and matted with gore partly
Speaker 1: covered her face, but he could see her mouth hanging open.
Speaker 1: Dripping blood, her hands folded in her lap, her clothes
Speaker 1: were soaked, her dress drawn up to her knees, and
Speaker 1: the walls surrounding her streaked and splattered with blood nearly
Speaker 1: to the ceiling. Maimie Sherman's injuries were frightful. Her face
Speaker 1: was a battered mass of bone and bruised tissue, her
Speaker 1: nose mashed in even with the blackened eye sockets, and
Speaker 1: her right eye dangling on her cheek. Long gashes marred
Speaker 1: the top and back of her head. The post mortem
Speaker 1: would reveal she had four fractures of the skull, any
Speaker 1: one of which could have caused death, along with seven
Speaker 1: knife wounds in her back under the right shoulder blade
Speaker 1: and a slash on each side of her throat. Her
Speaker 1: arms were blue from the elbow down, probably from trying
Speaker 1: to deflect blows. Her hands slashed and stabbed through as
Speaker 1: if she had grabbed the blade. As Mayor Bosh took
Speaker 1: in the horror, he heard the rumble of the police
Speaker 1: ambulance coming up in front of the house. He also
Speaker 1: heard the voice of Charles Sherman saying, isn't this a
Speaker 1: nice thing to walk into? Just then, Police Chief Jacob's
Speaker 1: Sip and police surgeon doctor William C. Houston entered the
Speaker 1: room with lanterns. The doctor took charge of the scene,
Speaker 1: putting pressure on Sherman's profusely bleeding wounds. See what jealousy
Speaker 1: will do. The bleeding man said, this happened because I
Speaker 1: didn't want her to take a job she was well
Speaker 1: provided for, but she just wouldn't listen to me. Coroner
Speaker 1: Thomas D. Shark He soon arrived, pronounced Mamy Sherman dead
Speaker 1: and instructed the drivers to take her remains to Albert
Speaker 1: Wagner's morgue on Ludlow Street. Before they carried his body out,
Speaker 1: Charles Sherman told Chief Sip, I hit her with my fist,
Speaker 1: I hit her with a chair, and then I hit
Speaker 1: her with a hatchet. The chief asked, did you use
Speaker 1: a knife? Sherman replied, I think I did. Doctor Houston
Speaker 1: accompanied Sherman on the ride to Mercy Hospital, keeping his
Speaker 1: hands on the dead man's throat wounds. Is my wife,
Speaker 1: he asked? Yes. Houston said she's dead, then there's no
Speaker 1: sewing me up. He said, I might as well be
Speaker 1: dead too, Yes, you might as well be dead. The
Speaker 1: doctor said, they'll get you Anyhow, Sherman looked down at
Speaker 1: his hands covered with blood and clumps of his wife's
Speaker 1: hair matted with gore. When the ambulance arrived at the hospital,
Speaker 1: he handed the clump over to an attendant. In the
Speaker 1: good light of the hospital, Doctor Houston took inventory of
Speaker 1: Sherman's wounds, finding them not as serious as they first appeared.
Speaker 1: Five stabs in the left breast over the heart, and
Speaker 1: a puncture wound on each side of the throat. Although
Speaker 1: there was a lot of blood, the cuts were all
Speaker 1: shallow and none of them serious. After his wounds were dressed,
Speaker 1: Coroner shark He ordered that he'd be placed in a
Speaker 1: strait jacket to keep from from doing more damage to himself.
Speaker 1: At ten pm, Chief SIPs summoned police clerk Frank Clements
Speaker 1: to take down Charles Victor Sherman's confession. Sherman's attorneys, Bickley
Speaker 1: and Bickley made the unusual decision to claim the brutal
Speaker 1: murder was an act of self defense. Attorney U. F.
Speaker 1: Bickley always referred to the victim by her birth name,
Speaker 1: Eva May Connery, and called witnesses, some from her hometown
Speaker 1: of Buyers Station and some former co workers, who said
Speaker 1: that she was a woman of high temper, of a
Speaker 1: violent quarrelsome disagreeable disposition, and of questionable moral character. According
Speaker 1: to the Hamilton Daily Republican, there were animations that she
Speaker 1: drank to excess, but objections to that sort of testimony
Speaker 1: were consistently sustained. No one testified to the contrary. Other
Speaker 1: witnesses testified as to the upright character and even temperament
Speaker 1: of Charles Victor Sherman, that he was a perfect gentleman,
Speaker 1: known as a peaceable, quiet and law abiding citizen, though
Speaker 1: most of them admitted under cross examination that they did
Speaker 1: not know anything about the defendant's home life nor his
Speaker 1: relationship with the victim. During his testimony, Sherman told a
Speaker 1: story that matched his earlier confession until he got to
Speaker 1: the part about their dining room showdown. Mami was impatient
Speaker 1: because she wanted to go to the Eagle's picnic, and
Speaker 1: when he brought up the subject of the job, she
Speaker 1: struck him on the nose with her fist, then picked
Speaker 1: up a poker from the stove and came at him swinging.
Speaker 1: He caught a blow on his arm and she swung
Speaker 1: it again. This time he grabbed it and punched her
Speaker 1: in the face. They exchanged blows again and she fell
Speaker 1: to the ground. He grabbed her by the throat and
Speaker 1: told her to drop the poker. I won't drop it
Speaker 1: until I kill you with it. She croaked, and he
Speaker 1: tightened his grip until she dropped it. When he let
Speaker 1: her go, she ran to the sideboard and grabbed a
Speaker 1: straight razor. They wrestled over that for a while, and
Speaker 1: he finally got it away from her and put it
Speaker 1: back in the drawer. While he was doing that, she
Speaker 1: grabbed the hatchet from the ice chest and came at
Speaker 1: him again. He grabbed one of the kitchen chairs to
Speaker 1: protect himself, but then she made as if to throw
Speaker 1: the hatchet, so he swung the chair at her, but missed,
Speaker 1: and the chair shattered to pieces against the stove. Mamie
Speaker 1: swung the hatchet at him again and connected with a
Speaker 1: glancing blow to the side of his head. He succeeded
Speaker 1: in knocking it out of her hand, and when he
Speaker 1: went to retrieve it, she picked up the poker again.
Speaker 1: He testified quote, she started at me, and when I
Speaker 1: grabbed her, shoved into the corner. Her head struck a
Speaker 1: door jam and she sank to the floor. I took
Speaker 1: out my knife, cut my throat on one side, and
Speaker 1: went out on the porch and called missus Bunning. Then
Speaker 1: I went back into the room cut my throat on
Speaker 1: the other side, and that's the last thing I remember.
Speaker 1: Sherman testified that he could not remember anything that happened
Speaker 1: after attempting to cut his own throat, neither in the
Speaker 1: home nor in the hospital. He said that coroner's shark
Speaker 1: he came to him the next day with a typewritten
Speaker 1: piece of paper, and that he said was his statement.
Speaker 1: Sherman said he refused to sign it, and his legal
Speaker 1: counsel advised him not to say anything else until the trial,
Speaker 1: and that's why he never mentioned that his wife attacked him,
Speaker 1: and he was only defending himself. During cross examination, his
Speaker 1: most frequent answer was I don't remember, particularly in regard
Speaker 1: to his earlier confessions. He did not remember seeing the
Speaker 1: corner that night and did not remember talking to the
Speaker 1: chief of police in the presence of a stenographer. He
Speaker 1: denied ever striking his wife over the head with the
Speaker 1: chair and denied having struck her with the hatchet. He
Speaker 1: could not account for the cuts on her back and throat.
Speaker 1: The Daily Republican News wrote quote remarks dropped in the
Speaker 1: course of the cross examination and afterward by persons present,
Speaker 1: seemed to show that the general impression was that Sherman's story,
Speaker 1: while well adhered to, was rather thin unquote. The defense
Speaker 1: called doctor G. A. Herman to the stand to testify
Speaker 1: about tending to the broken arm of Mary Sherman, who
Speaker 1: he guessed was sixty five to sixty eight years old.
Speaker 1: The mother only testified through deposition. Doctor Herman said that
Speaker 1: he was dressing it as he would any ordinary fracture,
Speaker 1: and overheard Maimie and Charles fussing that settles it. He
Speaker 1: heard made me say, I am not going to live
Speaker 1: with you. If anyone leaves, it will be mother, Sherman said.
Speaker 1: Sherman had the doctor make arrangements to send the old
Speaker 1: woman to the hospital in Oxford, where another of her
Speaker 1: sons would pick her up. The jury deliberated for five hours,
Speaker 1: rendering a verdict of guilty of second degree murder, having
Speaker 1: found no proof of premeditation. Charles Victor Sherman received a
Speaker 1: life sentence for the murder of his wife, but he
Speaker 1: did not stay in jail long. He was never granted
Speaker 1: another trial, but his friends and family lobbied hard to
Speaker 1: have him pardoned. In nineteen eleven, just six years after
Speaker 1: his conviction, Ohio Governor Harmon named Charles Victor Sherman his
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving pardon as the result of a plea submitted by
Speaker 1: his family and endorsed by several well known Indiana politicians,
Speaker 1: including the sitting lieutenant governor and a former congressman. The
Speaker 1: press release announcing his pardon was filled with factual airs
Speaker 1: and painted the man in quite a different light than
Speaker 1: the reports of his arrest and trial. Describing the murder
Speaker 1: thus quote, one evening, he attempted to caress her, and
Speaker 1: she struck him. A quarrel ensued, during which he picked
Speaker 1: up a chair and felled her. The blow killed her unquote.
Speaker 1: The conviction, the press release said, was the consequence of
Speaker 1: the backlash over the crimes committed by the strangler, Alfred Knapp. Quote.
Speaker 1: Sherman's trial occurred when the public mind was inflamed, and
Speaker 1: as a consequence, he was convicted of a more serious
Speaker 1: degree than he would have been at some other time,
Speaker 1: it said. The evening journal reported that local officials quote
Speaker 1: did not look upon the part Garden with much favor,
Speaker 1: Sherman did not come back to Hamilton. By the time
Speaker 1: World War I came around, Sherman was out of prison
Speaker 1: and registered for the draft. At the time, he was
Speaker 1: living with his sister in Lansing, Michigan, and working for
Speaker 1: an autobody company. He had already served in the infantry
Speaker 1: for seven months in eighteen ninety eight during the Spanish
Speaker 1: American War. It's not clear whether he saw any action,
Speaker 1: but he did enter a home for disabled veterans in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles in nineteen twenty eight, citing asthma and poor
Speaker 1: hearing when he was fifty five years old. Two years later,
Speaker 1: during the nineteen thirty census, he was living in a
Speaker 1: military home in Montgomery County, Ohio. Sherman died at age
Speaker 1: eighty in nineteen fifty three in Los Angeles, California, and
Speaker 1: is buried in the Veterans section of the National Cemetery there.
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