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<v Speaker 1>Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence, and is

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<v Speaker 1>not intended for all audiences.

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<v Speaker 2>Listener discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 3>If I weer nlessues do the sounds, and I would

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<v Speaker 3>have let myself go stad before her.

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<v Speaker 1>At just twenty years old, Brianna Berozini could pass for

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager, but today in the courtroom, she looks even younger.

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<v Speaker 1>Her blonde hair falls straight down her back, framing a

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<v Speaker 1>face strained of color. She stands motionless before an Ohio judge,

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<v Speaker 1>a shadow of fear flickering behind her solemn eyes. The

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<v Speaker 1>room is silent, racing for the words she's about to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>words that seal her fate. Brianna is here to plead

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<v Speaker 1>guilty to killing her former friend Aliah Culbertson.

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<v Speaker 4>You're now pleading guilty, or admitting that you committed this crime.

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<v Speaker 4>When you plead guilty, you waive or give.

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<v Speaker 5>Up constitutional rights. Do you understand each and every right?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes? Sure?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you waiving those rights?

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<v Speaker 4>And are you pleading guilty knowingly, intelligently and voluntarily?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes? Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Only a year has passed since Heliah was killed. It

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<v Speaker 1>all happened so quickly on that March evening of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. It's been a year of legal battles, spawn hearings,

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<v Speaker 1>and fear on both sides. But today Brianna is admitting

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<v Speaker 1>to what she did and she will face consequences for

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<v Speaker 1>Helia's death.

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<v Speaker 4>Prosecution's going to push for prison. Your lawyers asking for probation.

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<v Speaker 4>I indicated I would likely send you to prison with

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<v Speaker 4>the ability maybe to get out early.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that your understanding of the discussions?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, sure, a right, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I've made no commitment. I get to review the pre

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<v Speaker 4>sentence investigation.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll listen to both sides, but I'm inclined to do

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<v Speaker 4>what I've told you, and you understand that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>On the benches behind Brianna and her lawyer, the split

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<v Speaker 1>is as old as the feud itself. Helia's family is

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<v Speaker 1>on one side and Brianna is on the other. The

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<v Speaker 1>bad blood didn't start with Helia's death, but it's curdled

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<v Speaker 1>into something much colder now. Each side sits stiff waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for what comes next.

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<v Speaker 5>When you plead guilty, it is a complete admission. You're guilty.

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<v Speaker 4>You're going to be convicted today, and you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>be sentenced on July the eleventh, it'll be on your record.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a nonexpungable offense.

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<v Speaker 4>It carries up to three years in prison and a

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<v Speaker 4>fine of up to ten thousand dollars. Do you understand

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<v Speaker 4>the nature of the charge to which you're pleading guilty

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<v Speaker 4>and what the maximum penalties are?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>That is it a maximum sentence of maybe three years

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<v Speaker 1>and ten thousand dollars for Jeliah Culbertson's life.

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<v Speaker 4>You have any questions for me about anything that we've

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<v Speaker 4>gone over, because if you do, now is the time

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<v Speaker 4>to ask me. Are you pleading guilty to this crime

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<v Speaker 4>I've outlined for you because you did, in fact commit

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<v Speaker 4>that crime.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, all right, have a seat, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Brianna has no questions. This plea deal is the best

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<v Speaker 1>outcome she could have hoped for. Because Brianna killed Heliah Culbertson.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a fact. But what that fact leaves out

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<v Speaker 1>is everything that led up to it, what was said,

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<v Speaker 1>what was seen, what was feared, and whether what Brianna

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<v Speaker 1>did that night was premeditated or panicked intent. Brianna stole

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<v Speaker 1>Helia's life, but now she gets to wait for her

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<v Speaker 1>sentence from the comfort of her family's home in Westerville, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>For the next month, Brianna will sleep in her own bed,

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<v Speaker 1>eat her favorite meal, scroll through her phone, and take

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<v Speaker 1>long hot showers. She's free for now. Helia, on the

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<v Speaker 1>other hand, is dead and her family lives inside a

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<v Speaker 1>grief that has no end. Even if Brianna gets the

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<v Speaker 1>maximum sense she could be out by the age of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. She will step into a future where most

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<v Speaker 1>people will never know she's a murderer. So carry on

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<v Speaker 1>with the very life she stole. No one in the

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<v Speaker 1>courtroom is satisfied. No one truly understands how it came

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<v Speaker 1>to this. If Brianna had stayed at home that night,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Helia would still be alive. Whatever happened between those

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<v Speaker 1>two girls, it didn't start that night, but it did

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<v Speaker 1>end in murder. Now, let's rewind to about a year

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<v Speaker 1>before Brianna stood in the courtroom, March twenty sixth of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, the evening Helia died.

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<v Speaker 6>From her unc I'm going on, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 9>My friend sat down at once to two one c

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<v Speaker 9>stop carry out.

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<v Speaker 5>So one one that's the tree once one carry out? Stop?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh stop, okay, calm down.

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<v Speaker 10>So one one.

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<v Speaker 5>Carry out blow stop.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm a.

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<v Speaker 1>Night. It was almost midnight in Columbus, Ohio. Such a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful place, Ohio, is, I always say? In the desolate

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot of a strip mall, Heliah Culbertson's best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>Kenzie Adrian called nine one one, desperate for help. Helia

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting in the front seat of a jeep that

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<v Speaker 1>belonged to their other friend, Dalon Barritte. Heliah took labored

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<v Speaker 1>breaths as blood spilled down her neck and onto her

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<v Speaker 1>orange tank top and pants.

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<v Speaker 11>Sure I know who stabbed it.

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<v Speaker 12>I know, free of your.

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<v Speaker 11>Ergie, Brianna okay waiting.

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<v Speaker 8>She watched and I don't know if he had, but

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<v Speaker 8>the closed.

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<v Speaker 1>Up Kenzie couldn't get the information out faster. She needed

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<v Speaker 1>it to be known. Brianna Barrowzini stabbed Heliah. They all

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed it.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, this memory with me.

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<v Speaker 13>We're gonna get you well throughout and health you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Dalen wrapped his shirt around Heliah's neck, pressing hard to

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<v Speaker 1>stop the bleeding. Kenzie clutched her hand, whispering to Haliah.

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<v Speaker 1>They waited, their ears straining for sirens, hearts pounding. Kenzie

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<v Speaker 1>and Dalen were paralyzed by the helplessness of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the police swarmed it.

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<v Speaker 12>Get back, boss, get back, I know, I know, I

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<v Speaker 12>need you to stay back.

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<v Speaker 10>All right.

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<v Speaker 11>Hey, you gotta let them do their work. Okay, come on, guys,

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<v Speaker 11>let's get back back.

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<v Speaker 14>Let's get back.

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<v Speaker 11>Come on, come on, I understand.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's get back here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna get your information.

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<v Speaker 15>Did you see it?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Who saw it?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay?

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<v Speaker 11>Okay in the red hoodie?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to get in the cruiser for me.

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<v Speaker 16>Okay, I'm gonna have to get you off your phone.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I.

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<v Speaker 12>Understand that, but I need you Okay, I need you

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<v Speaker 12>to get in the cruiser.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm to the phone. The parking lot was utter

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<v Speaker 1>chaos as police quickly assessed the situation amongst these crying,

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<v Speaker 1>red faced teenagers. The paramedics scooped up Palia into a

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<v Speaker 1>stretcher and whispered to the nearest hospital. Dalen and Kenzie

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<v Speaker 1>were left in the parking lot, shaking from adrenaline and terror.

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<v Speaker 1>The police officer guided Kenzie to his squad car, instructing

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<v Speaker 1>her to hang up her cell phone and sit down.

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<v Speaker 11>I have a seat. Is that you said, that's your friend.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, that's my best friend.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, what's her name?

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<v Speaker 5>Jelia?

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<v Speaker 7>H A l I ah, I know it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenzie sat looking up at the cop her eyes wide

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<v Speaker 1>and teary. She stroked the end of her long ponytail

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<v Speaker 1>like a child with a security blanket.

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<v Speaker 11>Do you know where she lives?

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<v Speaker 17>Yes?

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, very Ohio, but I don't know exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, Actually, I need you here.

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<v Speaker 12>We need to have I need you get that guy

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<v Speaker 12>in the red hoodie he saw it, and.

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<v Speaker 11>That's not I'm here.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm here, just sitting down.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to tell them what happened.

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<v Speaker 12>I need to separate you guys like that's fine, just

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<v Speaker 12>for integrity of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>The parking lot pulsed with street lights and the flashing

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<v Speaker 1>blue of cop cars. Dyalen storm towards Kenzie, begging to

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<v Speaker 1>sit with his sister, but an officer blo locked him.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knew exactly what had happened yet, and right

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<v Speaker 1>now they needed call not a shirtless panic Dayalen tearing

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<v Speaker 1>through the scene.

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<v Speaker 11>All right, what happened?

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<v Speaker 16>Brie Barzini stabbed her. They were getting into a fight,

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<v Speaker 16>and I was sitting in the jeep because I cannot

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<v Speaker 16>be around brie bar Zini, because her baby, her brothers

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<v Speaker 16>and my baby, dad and me and her at issues.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know b a r z z I n.

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<v Speaker 16>I I am I okay Pine Oak or at Western

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<v Speaker 16>Ohiots where she lives. She lives in West you think, wes,

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<v Speaker 16>I know she lives. Into a fight and Jelia walked

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<v Speaker 16>to the front door of the jeep. I saw she

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<v Speaker 16>had a gash on her. She got in the car

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<v Speaker 16>and she goes, I'm getting aschers. I hopped out the car.

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<v Speaker 16>I called hermong much because I didn't see the fucking fight.

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<v Speaker 16>I was sitting in the jeep looking away.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenzie was in shock, scrambling with her words. But what

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<v Speaker 1>she knew was that Brianna Berezini that stabbed Heliah. Kenzie

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<v Speaker 1>had issues with Brianna from the past, so she stayed

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<v Speaker 1>away from the fights between the girls. The next thing

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<v Speaker 1>she knew, Alia was bleeding from the neck.

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<v Speaker 11>You didn't see the actual fight, No, but I.

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<v Speaker 6>Know who Briberzini is.

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<v Speaker 8>I know her mother, and I know her address.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, all right, hang out for me, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>As Kenzie nervously puffed on her nicotine vape. The officer

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<v Speaker 1>marched towards another kid who had witnessed the fight.

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of fault.

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<v Speaker 12>I didn't see if her gets stabbed at all.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, it just looked like they were throwing punches.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know either of them?

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<v Speaker 12>I know her, that was a who.

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<v Speaker 11>Jaliah the one that got stabbed. You know her, But

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<v Speaker 11>you don't know I barely, Like I know.

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<v Speaker 15>I worked with Danielen for a little bit and I

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<v Speaker 15>was hanging out with them.

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<v Speaker 5>Deny it, I need, I need you. Where did it

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<v Speaker 5>happen at?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>You take that right here in the front.

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<v Speaker 12>Like in the front of the smoke shop, Yes, sir, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The off are continued collecting pieces of the story in

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<v Speaker 1>fragments from the teenagers. The fight had happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>strip mall, outside of a smoke shop that sold vapes, snacks, drinks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all the things that keep teenagers alive. Next,

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<v Speaker 1>the officer headed to the store, kicking oblivious customers off

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<v Speaker 1>the property as he made his way inside.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, guys, I have to shut this off.

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<v Speaker 12>Somebody just got stabbed and I need to basically close

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, even better, just don't let anybody come out this way.

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<v Speaker 1>The officer closed the smoke shop and patrolman started taping

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<v Speaker 1>off the entire parking lot. Outside another police vehicle a

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<v Speaker 1>few yards away from where Kenzie sat waiting, Dylan was

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<v Speaker 1>pacing towards another officer.

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<v Speaker 5>You're staying it right there, All right, okay, all right?

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<v Speaker 5>This is your sister they got.

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<v Speaker 11>Is not blood related, but I'm not. He was fucking twelve.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a good friend of yours. Yeah, what's your first name?

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<v Speaker 1>Dalen's bare chest was covered in Helia's blood. He cried

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<v Speaker 1>as he walked with the officer giving him all the

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<v Speaker 1>information without question. He kept calling Haliah his sister, even

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<v Speaker 1>though they weren't actually related. It's the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>that made sense in his world, where closeness didn't need

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<v Speaker 1>which for some like Dalen felt like forever, long enough

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<v Speaker 1>for him to believe he had a duty to protect her.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, What did you see what happened?

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<v Speaker 11>On video?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Dalen stood up and pulled out his cell phone, holding

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<v Speaker 1>up the screen for the officer to see. He had

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<v Speaker 1>the entire fight on video. Every brutal second. He even

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<v Speaker 1>posted it on Snapchat. Dylan, her self proclaimed brother, thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was protecting her, but what he didn't realize was

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<v Speaker 1>that he may have helped to get her killed, because

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<v Speaker 1>buried in the footage, beneath the shouting and the blood

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<v Speaker 1>was something that no one had noticed, something that changed everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside of a smoke shop in a strip mall in Columbus, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>on opening that clearly tells you nothing goods coming, eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old Brianna Berezini had stabbed seventeen year old Haliah

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<v Speaker 1>Culbertson during a fight. When police arrived on the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>they found a group of distraught teenagers who had witnessed

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<v Speaker 1>the brawl, and one boy, Dalon Barritge, had filmed the

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<v Speaker 1>entire thing on his phone. Brianna had fled the scene

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<v Speaker 1>after the fight, and as another troop of officers headed

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<v Speaker 1>to her house to track her down, the ones on

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<v Speaker 1>the scene continued talking to the witnesses, Alia's best friends,

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<v Speaker 1>Daylon and Kenzie. After all, Dalen had the whole fight

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<v Speaker 1>on his cell phone. Through tears, he passed his phone

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<v Speaker 1>over and started playing. In the clip, you see Heliah,

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<v Speaker 1>she towers over Brianna by about a foot. Aliya is

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<v Speaker 1>walking towards Brianna with her arms out, shouting, you wake

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<v Speaker 1>it up.

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<v Speaker 3>My sister.

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<v Speaker 7>Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Alia charges towards brin on a yelling who's obsessed? Over

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<v Speaker 1>and over. Brianna backs up. She's got two canned drinks

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<v Speaker 1>in her hand, and her boyfriend is beside her. He

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<v Speaker 1>holds her arms and tries to guard her, being cautious

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<v Speaker 1>not to touch Haliah at all. In the background, Dalon

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<v Speaker 1>starts to tell him to get off his sister.

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<v Speaker 15>Yay, if you touch my sister and I'll have to put.

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<v Speaker 5>My phone down.

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<v Speaker 15>Bro Heliah cuntra ass to get it over way, Bro

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<v Speaker 15>contra ass to get it overway, Helia.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh great more thug culture. Helia keeps charging forward, screaming

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<v Speaker 1>in Brianna's face as Dalen keeps yelling. That's when some

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<v Speaker 1>say Brianna pulls out a knife from her pocket. Others

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<v Speaker 1>insist it was already in her hand. Heliah keeps thundering

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<v Speaker 1>towards her. That's when Heliah's open hand slaps Brianna across

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<v Speaker 1>the face. The fight ignites.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, countra ass, Helia cuncherr ass, Helia, dress you better

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<v Speaker 15>get your girl before she gets fucked up even more as.

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<v Speaker 1>The motion is lightning fast. But that's when Brianna swings

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<v Speaker 1>the knife up and slashes Helia across the throat. But

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<v Speaker 1>Heliah doesn't stop. She keeps yelling, She keeps swinging her

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<v Speaker 1>fists and throwing her body towards Brianna as blood spills

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<v Speaker 1>and can drinks go flying out of the pavement and explode,

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<v Speaker 1>which raises a chilling possibility. Did Brianna even realize the

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<v Speaker 1>knife connected? Did anyone? For a moment it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>no one had been hurt at all. The fight breaks

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<v Speaker 1>up and Brianna's boyfriend pulls her away. Helia stumbles towards

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<v Speaker 1>Dalan and the video cuts out. The fight is crystal clear,

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<v Speaker 1>despite how short and frenzied the whole ordeal was. But

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<v Speaker 1>what isn't clear is why it all started. But for

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<v Speaker 1>that information and the officer's first turn to Dayalen.

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<v Speaker 5>What did all start over?

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<v Speaker 8>So?

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<v Speaker 11>All right?

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<v Speaker 12>So Kenzie, Kenzie's baby dad is Breeze older brother.

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<v Speaker 11>Right, who's Kenzie the one in that.

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<v Speaker 5>All right here? The blonde? The blonde?

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<v Speaker 12>So her brother, her baby dad is her brother and

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<v Speaker 12>her Okay, Kenzie's baby dad. Yes, Kenzie's baby dads here

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<v Speaker 12>and she has a baby dad. And baby dad is

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<v Speaker 12>Bree's older brother, older brother. Got they've had beef for

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<v Speaker 12>the The child's going to four years old, so they've

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<v Speaker 12>had beat for almost five years.

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<v Speaker 1>Type shit, you know what I'm saying, Like Brianna's older

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<v Speaker 1>brother is the father of Kenzie's child. This relationship went

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<v Speaker 1>very sour. Helia, being Kenzie's best friend, sided with her

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<v Speaker 1>and developed a hatred for the entire Berazini family, as

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<v Speaker 1>did Dalen. After all, Heliah and Kenzie were his so

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<v Speaker 1>called sisters.

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<v Speaker 12>I look at Kenzie's mother adopted me, like, not legally,

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<v Speaker 12>but my mom teaching me out from the ages of

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<v Speaker 12>fourteen to seventeen, and Kenzie's family took me the fuck

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<v Speaker 12>in Okay, So I'm very protective over Kenzie and whoever

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<v Speaker 12>Kensey affiliates with.

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<v Speaker 1>Dalen was a classic latch key teen, untethered looking for

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<v Speaker 1>something to hold on to after his own mother kicked

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<v Speaker 1>him out. He found a sense of belonging in Kenzie's world.

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<v Speaker 1>Her family became his anchor, and he clung to that

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<v Speaker 1>feeling of home with everything he had fiercely loyal but

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally adrift, Dalen absorbed every ripple of drama between Kenzie

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<v Speaker 1>Aliyah and the Berezini family. To most adults, it would

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<v Speaker 1>have seemed like none of his business, but to Dalen,

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<v Speaker 1>it was everything. He didn't just insert himself. He dug in,

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<v Speaker 1>rooted himself in the chaos, convinced that was where he

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<v Speaker 1>was meant to be and wasn't just going along for

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<v Speaker 1>the ride. That night, he was steering the ship and

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<v Speaker 1>when the fight broke out, he didn't step back. He

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<v Speaker 1>stepped in. He stepped up, I guess you would say,

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<v Speaker 1>with his cell phone in one hand and vicarious vengeance

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<v Speaker 1>in his heart.

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<v Speaker 12>But like, that's my little sister and I've I've always

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<v Speaker 12>been protective over her and ray bear Zini. She she

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<v Speaker 12>the girl who did this hit. She just always runs.

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<v Speaker 12>She's assists here and she talks shit, She talks and

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<v Speaker 12>I saw, I saw the knife fucking drop, but I

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<v Speaker 12>didn't did she not used bro Brie and Healia were

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<v Speaker 12>supposed to be fighting while they were in the Columbus

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<v Speaker 12>thing or what.

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<v Speaker 11>No, it was random as fucks. He came in while

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<v Speaker 11>we came in.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole fight was spur of the moment. Aliah and

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<v Speaker 1>Brianna had known beef for months. According to Kenzie, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a normal evening at the smoke shop, joking

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<v Speaker 1>around with the store's owner that they all knew. Then

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<v Speaker 1>Brianna and her boyfriend walked in.

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<v Speaker 10>Three walks in with her friend, and I didn't notice

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<v Speaker 10>until Julia goes, that's brief, fucking Barrizini. I said, oh God.

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<v Speaker 6>I turned around, my saw her. She looked at me.

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<v Speaker 6>I looked at her. I turned around.

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<v Speaker 10>I know Brie because she's my baby dad's sister. Okay,

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<v Speaker 10>and I've known Brie since middle school, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 10>allowed legally. I don't go around her or her brother

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<v Speaker 10>or her family. I was fifteen and her brother was

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<v Speaker 10>nineteen when I got pregnant.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>When Kenzie had a relationship with Brianna's older brother, she

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<v Speaker 1>was a minor and he was legally an adult, which

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<v Speaker 1>made the situation a problem, A big one.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, because I didn't know he was nineteen. He told

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<v Speaker 10>me he was seventeen to figure out he was turning eighteen,

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<v Speaker 10>and then he turned he was already eighteen. Then he

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<v Speaker 10>turned nineteen, and I got pregnant when I was fifteen

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<v Speaker 10>in April when he was nineteen that year, so I

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<v Speaker 10>was like.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, this is great.

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<v Speaker 1>When Kenzie's family found out Brianna's brother was nineteen, they

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<v Speaker 1>filed criminal charges against him. This caused a major rift

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<v Speaker 1>between the two families. Still, Kenzie allowed Brianna and her

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<v Speaker 1>parents to visit the child on one condition. The child's

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<v Speaker 1>father was not allowed to visit. Everything was going all

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<v Speaker 1>right until they disrespected the rule and allowed Brianna's brother

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<v Speaker 1>to sneak a visit.

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<v Speaker 10>Because before noon they would be like yeah, and they'd

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<v Speaker 10>come over and I'd see her, or they would drop

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<v Speaker 10>stuff off.

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<v Speaker 6>But they just obeyed everything.

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<v Speaker 10>And I caught them in a line and they saw

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<v Speaker 10>them out in public with him, and I picked up

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<v Speaker 10>my daughter and I said, you are all fucked in mind,

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<v Speaker 10>and they.

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<v Speaker 6>Were like, you can't tell me what to do.

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<v Speaker 10>I said, this nineteen year old is going to tell

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<v Speaker 10>your thirty five year old asked what I can do?

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<v Speaker 6>Put my daughter in my corn.

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<v Speaker 7>I left.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when Kenzie banned anyone from the Berezini family from

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the child, including Brianna. Resentment grew between the two girls.

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<v Speaker 10>She isn't like because I don't let her, her family

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<v Speaker 10>see my daughter. I guess her brother's not a good person.

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<v Speaker 10>I have a restraining order on him.

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<v Speaker 6>He's legally not allowed to be around me or my family.

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<v Speaker 1>This battle of custody, restraining orders, and accusations had been

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<v Speaker 1>going on for years. So when Kenzie saw Brianna enter

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<v Speaker 1>the smoke shop on that March evening, she immediately wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get as far away from her as possible, but

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<v Speaker 1>Helia had other plans.

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<v Speaker 10>Her and Brief start going at it because Brie gets

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<v Speaker 10>behind us in line and Julia goes, you're obsessed or what?

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<v Speaker 10>Because breposts tiktoks about Alio all the time. I'm just

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<v Speaker 10>saying like they were friends at one point. I don't

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<v Speaker 10>really know what happened there together. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 10>issues they have, but they have like like they hate

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<v Speaker 10>each other. Something Priest called Julia cocaid. Julia called Bria

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<v Speaker 10>cocade and was talking about her abusive brother and was

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<v Speaker 10>talking about her family being city, and then bri was

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<v Speaker 10>talking about Julia's mom and then Helia was like, well,

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<v Speaker 10>I'll catch you outside then come outside, and is all right, bet,

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<v Speaker 10>I'll be outside then. So I got into the cheap

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<v Speaker 10>in the front seat, and I was looking forward because

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not part of this fight.

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<v Speaker 18>So that all happened in the store, yeah, where they

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<v Speaker 18>were where Brief was like, come.

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<v Speaker 6>On outside, and Hellia was like, I'll be outside.

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<v Speaker 10>Brie said, she'll be outside. Julia to her to come outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll catch you outside, all right, bet? Why do kids

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<v Speaker 1>sound like retards these days? We've already got a language.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to make up new definitions for existing

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<v Speaker 1>words just to make yourself feel special. You're already plenty

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<v Speaker 1>plenty special. Trust me. Anyway, According to Kenzie, it was

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<v Speaker 1>that simple. Brianna and Helia started arguing, and the store

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<v Speaker 1>then agreed to continue things outside. Kenzie said that Brianna

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<v Speaker 1>had posted nasty things to TikTok about Heliah, that their

429
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<v Speaker 1>feud may have been fueled by Helia's loyalty to Kenzie

430
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<v Speaker 1>and her situation, but that they had their own fight

431
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:06.079
<v Speaker 1>independent of her problems with Brianna's family. This wasn't a

432
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<v Speaker 1>premeditated showdown. It was a chance encounter that spiraled fast.

433
00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.079
<v Speaker 1>But even in spontaneous fights, there's a history, and this

434
00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:18.759
<v Speaker 1>one had years of its simmering just below the surface.

435
00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:23.279
<v Speaker 1>No one's saying Helia deserved what happened, but this wasn't

436
00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a clean cut case of victim and villain. Both girls

437
00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:32.599
<v Speaker 1>carried grudges and when the moment came, they each brought

438
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:36.799
<v Speaker 1>their rage with them. Helia and her friends waited outside

439
00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:39.160
<v Speaker 1>in the dark, while Kenzie sat in the jeep to

440
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<v Speaker 1>distance herself from Brianna.

441
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<v Speaker 10>They were outside of the cheap and I was like,

442
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<v Speaker 10>I'm not part of this shit because I'm going fucking car.

443
00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:48.279
<v Speaker 10>May can do another fuck you one, but I'm not

444
00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:52.839
<v Speaker 10>part of this shit. And then all I heard wasn't fighting.

445
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:57.480
<v Speaker 10>I didn't really see anything. I didn't see anything at all.

446
00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:00.000
<v Speaker 10>On te Kelly was walking up to the front door,

447
00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:04.279
<v Speaker 10>thank to the driver door of the car, and all

448
00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.519
<v Speaker 10>I can see is that she's bleeding. I'm holding her

449
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:09.680
<v Speaker 10>wrists and I'm trying to check for a pulse and

450
00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:13.000
<v Speaker 10>she peed her pants in her eyes.

451
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<v Speaker 6>She was non responsive. Did you see Hellia with any weapons?

452
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.839
<v Speaker 10>No, she didn't have anything. I had all of her stuff.

453
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:23.640
<v Speaker 10>I had her pepper sprare, I had her keys, I

454
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.680
<v Speaker 10>had it all. She didn't have anything on her except hands.

455
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<v Speaker 1>Kenzie and Dalen told the same story. The fight wasn't planned.

456
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:35.279
<v Speaker 1>It started in the smoke shop, just another chance encounter

457
00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:38.559
<v Speaker 1>that got out of hand. Brianna agreed to meet Helia

458
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:42.799
<v Speaker 1>outside to finish what they had started. Brianna had a

459
00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>hidden knife, Helia had nothing but her two hands. She

460
00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:51.559
<v Speaker 1>looked like a victim of an unfair fight. But looks

461
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:55.200
<v Speaker 1>can lie because at the same moment, another group of

462
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:59.279
<v Speaker 1>officers were at Brianna's door. They had found her and

463
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:03.920
<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend inside. Brianna had showered and her bloody clothes

464
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>were in the wash. The knife was hidden upstairs at

465
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<v Speaker 1>the station. Brianna his boyfriend sat down with the police

466
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to talk.

467
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:15.000
<v Speaker 11>Or just started like, how did you get up there?

468
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:15.880
<v Speaker 11>Who were you with?

469
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:16.799
<v Speaker 13>So?

470
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<v Speaker 18>I was with Brite and we headed there just right

471
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<v Speaker 18>after a car meet.

472
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:23.799
<v Speaker 11>We were there.

473
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<v Speaker 18>We got there around eleven thirty eleven forty.

474
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.640
<v Speaker 11>Since we got in, we noticed.

475
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:34.720
<v Speaker 18>Heliah and a girl named Kenzie and some guy that'll

476
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:35.839
<v Speaker 18>never seen before.

477
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<v Speaker 11>We tried to move out the way.

478
00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:42.000
<v Speaker 18>Because there's always been issues between us ever since.

479
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.640
<v Speaker 11>November, between who specifically.

480
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:49.599
<v Speaker 18>So it's always been issues between me, Brite and Helia.

481
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<v Speaker 11>Okay, Kenzie has had some you know, long term issues

482
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<v Speaker 11>with with family.

483
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:59.880
<v Speaker 18>Have Yeah, Haliah said something pretty called or obsessed, and

484
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:05.720
<v Speaker 18>then it started an argument. The guy over over the

485
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:09.880
<v Speaker 18>counter Ben He said he doesn't want anything to do

486
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:13.319
<v Speaker 18>with this, so he got Haliah Kenzie and her friend.

487
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 11>Outside, and then Halia was yelling a lot and then breathe.

488
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:21.880
<v Speaker 11>The whole time was just you know, just trying to say,

489
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:24.160
<v Speaker 11>I don't want to fight you, Brianna.

490
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>His boyfriend had a feeling there would be trouble when

491
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:31.039
<v Speaker 1>he saw Heliah Kenzie and Dalon, so they tried their

492
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>best to avoid them, but Heliah started shouting at Brianna,

493
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>instigating a loud and vicious confrontation. The cashier kicked Heliah,

494
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Kenzie and Dalon out of the store. When police spoke

495
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>with him, he confirmed this. The cashier told police that

496
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>when the altercation in the store heated up, he knew

497
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>he had to take action and remove Jalia and her friends.

498
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:56.440
<v Speaker 5>So I told my coworker like, I'm going to defuse this.

499
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 11>So I stepped outside and was talk from to her.

500
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.799
<v Speaker 12>She which.

501
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:08.559
<v Speaker 11>And when I got sagged the one that got sad.

502
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:09.440
<v Speaker 11>You were talking to her.

503
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.279
<v Speaker 19>I was trying to tell her like I got got

504
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 19>his business, but just go.

505
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>But they didn't go. Dylan started egging Haliah on, riling

506
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.880
<v Speaker 1>her anger into a frenzy. He pulled out his phone

507
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:25.279
<v Speaker 1>and started filming.

508
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 19>He's standing right there and he's recording everything. And so

509
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:33.279
<v Speaker 19>she's getting upset thinking the two telling me to.

510
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:34.279
<v Speaker 11>Go out there to stop her.

511
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:37.279
<v Speaker 19>One really is I don't want no incident to have

512
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:38.079
<v Speaker 19>her here, period.

513
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:39.920
<v Speaker 5>Carly Blanking was recording.

514
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 6>Was he with the girl that got staffed?

515
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:43.799
<v Speaker 7>Yes, he was with her, Okay.

516
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:47.720
<v Speaker 19>So he instigated it when I just calmed everything down.

517
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 11>Even though she was still upset.

518
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:55.519
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, really yeah, and recording everything.

519
00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 1>So footage of the Smoke Shops outdoor camera showed Heliah, Dalon,

520
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:05.039
<v Speaker 1>and Kenzie being escorted out of the store. They disappeared

521
00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 1>into the parking lot. Then about two minutes later, you

522
00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:11.319
<v Speaker 1>see Heliah come back to the front of the store.

523
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:15.839
<v Speaker 1>She's pacing like a bull, yelling and waving her arms,

524
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:20.039
<v Speaker 1>taunting Brianna. From outside. In the corner, you could see

525
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Dalen following her around with a cell phone filming. Here's

526
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.359
<v Speaker 1>that recording, Halia, what you want to do?

527
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 5>Bro?

528
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Where's she at?

529
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Bro?

530
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:33.759
<v Speaker 7>Where's she up?

531
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:34.079
<v Speaker 11>Bro?

532
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 3>She's scared, Bro, She's scared. Alias should drag her at

533
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 3>the store. Buzz, No, we waiting right here till you

534
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 3>get your ones.

535
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 5>I've been waiting to see her.

536
00:29:53.519 --> 00:30:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Ask a beeper a minute, Bro, you should get arrested

537
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>just for that laugh. That's when the cashier came outside again,

538
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.839
<v Speaker 1>telling Heliah and Dalen to go home.

539
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:10.240
<v Speaker 11>So he wasn't helping the situation.

540
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 19>Nobody was hoping, No one like it was a dead silence.

541
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:17.519
<v Speaker 19>The two girls was talking to me, the other two

542
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:23.359
<v Speaker 19>was shopping, and once they had their words exchanged, nobody

543
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:25.880
<v Speaker 19>was trying to say, chill, calm down, no nothing. I'm

544
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:29.160
<v Speaker 19>the only one telling nobody just just go chill out.

545
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:30.680
<v Speaker 19>Go ahead, go leave a store.

546
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:34.839
<v Speaker 1>According to the smoke shop cashier, it was Dalon who

547
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>took the situation from bad to worse. The boy who

548
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 1>was so hell bent on protecting his soul called sister

549
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>was the one who egged on the needless fight that

550
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>ended in murder. Breon his boyfriend said the same thing.

551
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.799
<v Speaker 18>The male who was with her just kept instigating, just

552
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:54.720
<v Speaker 18>trying to make them fight.

553
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:56.680
<v Speaker 11>I try to push.

554
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:01.119
<v Speaker 18>Away Bertie and Julia because I'm sort of like, I

555
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.200
<v Speaker 18>don't have a person like Kalia, but I don't have

556
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:06.319
<v Speaker 18>the biggest problem with her. Yeah, just trying to basically

557
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 18>end things without you know, getting anybody hurt.

558
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>You've heard the video anytime that Brianna's boyfriend tried to

559
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:19.039
<v Speaker 1>pull the two girls apart, Dalen inserted himself and threatened violence.

560
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 1>If you touched my sister, gonna have to put my

561
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 1>phone down.

562
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:27.480
<v Speaker 15>Bro Heliah Contra asked to get it over waight, bro

563
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Speaker 15>Contra has to get it over with Heliah.

564
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.920
<v Speaker 11>But he's basically saying don't don't touch her or yeah, and.

565
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:35.359
<v Speaker 18>The whole time, I don't know if the video shows this,

566
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 18>that I was trying to back.

567
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:38.599
<v Speaker 11>Them up, yeah, from each other.

568
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:44.680
<v Speaker 18>It was polite, like the back of the hand, so

569
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.920
<v Speaker 18>obviously you didn't like it. So I tried to plumb

570
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 18>breathe enough and everything escalated. Basically that if he didn't

571
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:57.200
<v Speaker 18>instigate Helia start to fight, none.

572
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 11>Of this would have happened.

573
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Brian, his boyfriend, said that the state happened so fast

574
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.039
<v Speaker 1>he barely realized it until he noticed a sticky liquid

575
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>on his own body. Still, the police needed to know

576
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:13.279
<v Speaker 1>why Brianna brandished that knife, Why was she even carrying

577
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 1>one in the first place?

578
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 11>When did you know that Brie had a knife. She's

579
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 11>been carrying knives she always carries. She always carries knives because.

580
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.559
<v Speaker 18>Just a lot of people try to, you know, attack

581
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 18>her or just try to.

582
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 11>Come up to her. Because the issues with.

583
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 18>Heliah and Brie has always been a thing since November.

584
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:39.799
<v Speaker 18>What happened in November, Haliah was just using me and brite,

585
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.839
<v Speaker 18>you know, saying she has a kid, she doesn't have

586
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:48.039
<v Speaker 18>a kid, basically using that as it excuse to get

587
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 18>money or anything, really to just get as much money

588
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 18>as she can. Uh, saying she needs to pay for

589
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.480
<v Speaker 18>gas and she doesn't even drive.

590
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:01.960
<v Speaker 11>It just became a whole mess. We just loved it

591
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:03.839
<v Speaker 11>that and every.

592
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:06.880
<v Speaker 18>Once in a while, either Helle would call me I

593
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 18>would typically ignore, or she would just message Brie on Instagram.

594
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 11>Just talking crap.

595
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 18>It just happens like every couple of months, just randomly

596
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:20.400
<v Speaker 18>starts calling it again.

597
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>No one could really explain what had gone down between

598
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Brianna and Heliah to make their friendship curdle into hatred

599
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and violence. But it was all petty, silly teenage stuff, lies, manipulation,

600
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Instagram dms and TikTok gossip, bullshit.

601
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:43.519
<v Speaker 17>Did Hell have any any weapons or anything, Does she

602
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:44.599
<v Speaker 17>have a knife out or anything.

603
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.400
<v Speaker 18>I don't recall she had a knife out, but I

604
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.000
<v Speaker 18>know she does carry typically typically carries a knife. And

605
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 18>then she always talks about carrying guns and all that.

606
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:56.039
<v Speaker 11>That's why we take.

607
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:58.960
<v Speaker 18>Her threats to very seriously because she always talks about

608
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 18>either how having guns, hanging out with people that have guns,

609
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 18>saying that she can kill us.

610
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:08.320
<v Speaker 11>Is it's been a home best.

611
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Pelia may have used big, bad threats about knowing friends

612
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>with guns and saying she was going to kill Brianna,

613
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>but Brianna was the one who brandished the blade and

614
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:25.760
<v Speaker 1>sliced it across Hillia's neck. But Brianna's boyfriend said there

615
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:29.519
<v Speaker 1>were many reasons why Brianna always carried a knife.

616
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.320
<v Speaker 18>Another reason is that her ex boyfriend is abusive, always

617
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.679
<v Speaker 18>pulls up her own what's sixty one and just that

618
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 18>what sixty one is not the best area to be in.

619
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 18>So she always carries in her knife because first of all,

620
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:49.320
<v Speaker 18>she's small shoes and can't really protect herself in any

621
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 18>other way. And the way most of these people fight now,

622
00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:57.599
<v Speaker 18>they fight to kill.

623
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 1>After the fight was over and her boyfriend left the scene,

624
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>they drove back to brionn his house where her brother

625
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:10.159
<v Speaker 1>was waiting, the one who fathered Kenzie's child. Brion, his boyfriend,

626
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>said that he washed the knife and gave it to

627
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:13.519
<v Speaker 1>her brother.

628
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:16.960
<v Speaker 18>So I took to the bathroom because it was still

629
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:20.800
<v Speaker 18>dripping blood, cleaning as much as possible.

630
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 11>Uh, and then I gave to Cameron in the living room.

631
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:28.599
<v Speaker 11>He gave the knife to Cameron. Uh, so you mean

632
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 11>actually cleaned it up.

633
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:32.559
<v Speaker 18>So, yeah, cleaned it up some because it just kind

634
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:34.840
<v Speaker 18>of dripping off the acteley knife and they were godn't

635
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:36.400
<v Speaker 18>want to get it all over the place.

636
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Brion, his boyfriend and brother had hidden a murder weapon,

637
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:45.199
<v Speaker 1>but no one knew Heliah was dying. After the stab,

638
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:49.599
<v Speaker 1>she kept swinging and screaming. She didn't stop or surrender.

639
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Not until Brianna was gone and she sank into Dalon's

640
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.599
<v Speaker 1>car did her friends realize how deep the damage went.

641
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Dalan's phone marked the fight at eleven forty eight pm.

642
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<v Speaker 1>By twelve twenty four, am Aliah was pronounced dead at

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital. According to the autopsy, the knife struck a

644
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>critical zone and Heliah's clavigal, damaging a major artery, over

645
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>half a gallon of blood poured into her chest. She

646
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't stand a chance. Still, Brianna insisted her violence was

647
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:29.639
<v Speaker 1>all a panicked reaction to Heliah's confrontation. It was all

648
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 1>just a blur. She premeditated nothing.

649
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:35.519
<v Speaker 7>And they're screaming at me.

650
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 2>And then the dude tells Helia to run up on me,

651
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 2>and she's walking up and I keep telling her, I'm

652
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.599
<v Speaker 2>not fighting you back up, so you're not worth it.

653
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Keep telling her to back up, and I get my

654
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.639
<v Speaker 2>knife out in my hand and I'm holding and I

655
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 2>said back up, and she attacks me. She first slapped me.

656
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:00.800
<v Speaker 2>She was pushing me well before that.

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<v Speaker 15>Ye.

658
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:02.719
<v Speaker 7>I was trying to push her away from me.

659
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.280
<v Speaker 2>But the other guy said was stealing to end up

660
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 2>to touch her orse he was going to do something

661
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>to him. I don't know what exactly had happened, but

662
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I went like this and.

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<v Speaker 7>Then she dragged me by my hair on the ground

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<v Speaker 7>and like there was just blood in my eyes. I

665
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<v Speaker 7>couldn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 15>Contrast, Aeliah, fuck her up. You better get your girlfore

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00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 15>she gets fucked up even more.

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<v Speaker 2>H I don't think I hit her or anything, because

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the ground getting blood out of my eyes.

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<v Speaker 7>I had no idea what was going on. I was

671
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:40.039
<v Speaker 7>just in shock at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>It's chilling how clear it is on video. Heliah charges

673
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 1>at Brianna, who retreats, murmuring that she doesn't want to fight,

674
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:54.360
<v Speaker 1>but Helia keeps coming. Dalen records it all, his voice

675
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.800
<v Speaker 1>rising with every shout, not warning them, not breaking it up,

676
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>just feeding the fire. Dylan wasn't a bystander, he was

677
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:08.639
<v Speaker 1>the catalyst. But then Brianna flashes the knife. Helia slaps her.

678
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:14.039
<v Speaker 1>Brianna swings and blood splatters all over the paper. Still,

679
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Heliah yanks her to the ground and Unlicia's brutal blows,

680
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:22.360
<v Speaker 1>dragging her like a rag doll. Had she survived, there's

681
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<v Speaker 1>no question Helia would have won that fight. She kicked

682
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Brionna's ass, even with a hole in her neck. Now

683
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<v Speaker 1>I'm turning, Ghettu.

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<v Speaker 7>So during the.

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<v Speaker 11>Fire, when she was hitting you, what happened with a knife?

686
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:37.280
<v Speaker 11>During that time?

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<v Speaker 2>It had dropped on the ground. Okay, it wasn't no

688
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:40.679
<v Speaker 2>longer in my hand.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you know she had been cut?

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<v Speaker 13>At that point, I didn't know if it was many

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00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.000
<v Speaker 13>or heard because they were yelling, saying that, they were laughing,

692
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.599
<v Speaker 13>saying that she maybe bleed, so I was like, maybe

693
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.559
<v Speaker 13>there's a cut on me, But then I was looking

694
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 13>all over myself when we got in the car, it

695
00:38:57.679 --> 00:38:59.599
<v Speaker 13>was like, it's I don't think it's me.

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<v Speaker 5>What is this?

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<v Speaker 7>All stuffs animosity? Heliah used to.

698
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Be a really good friend of mine, and then I

699
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:14.039
<v Speaker 2>found out a lot that she's just a really bad person.

700
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<v Speaker 2>So I stopped being friends with her, and my friend

701
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Yed stopped talking with and then after that she pretty

702
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 2>much just went crazy, like saying she was going to

703
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:26.639
<v Speaker 2>kill us and slash his tires and do all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>And like she does to most people, to her friends,

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00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Heliah was fearless, the kind of girl who would never

706
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:38.559
<v Speaker 1>back down. To Brianna, she was dangerous and unhinged, two

707
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 1>versions of the same Helia told by people who loved

708
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.559
<v Speaker 1>her and people who feared her. Was Brianna the victim

709
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:51.639
<v Speaker 1>of Heliah's rabid aggression. Was this simply self defense? But

710
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>there was one thing no one had seen yet, not

711
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:58.760
<v Speaker 1>even the police. It was something buried in the digital

712
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:02.760
<v Speaker 1>noise from two weeks before the fight. A text message

713
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.320
<v Speaker 1>from Brianna to her friend tossed off like a joke,

714
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:10.119
<v Speaker 1>maybe even forgotten After a long rant with her friend

715
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:14.119
<v Speaker 1>about Halia's behavior, Brianna signed off with this message, I

716
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>would sooner slice Halia's throat if he comes near me again.

717
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Just words, just teenage anger. But now with Haliah dead

718
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>from a single stab to the neck, these didn't feel

719
00:40:27.000 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 1>like just words anymore. Seventeen year old Heliah Culbertson had

720
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.119
<v Speaker 1>died from his single stab wound to the neck during

721
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:10.840
<v Speaker 1>an impromptu street fight with her former friend, eighteen year

722
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:16.079
<v Speaker 1>old Brianna Brenzini. The two girls had been feuding for months,

723
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>each claiming the other was just a bad person, but

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00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Helia's friend Kenzie also had big problems with her and

725
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:28.320
<v Speaker 1>her family. Kenzie had become pregnant when she was fifteen

726
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:32.599
<v Speaker 1>with Brianna's older brother, who lied to her and told

727
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:36.159
<v Speaker 1>her he was a miner two when he was not.

728
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Drama ran through that friend group like a river, a

729
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:45.199
<v Speaker 1>big river, and on the night of Helia's murder, it

730
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.840
<v Speaker 1>finally overflowed. Brianna was arrested on March twenty seventh for

731
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:53.039
<v Speaker 1>the murder of Helia. She was taken to the county

732
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:57.719
<v Speaker 1>jail immediately following her police interview. The Baronzini family quickly

733
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:01.039
<v Speaker 1>took action and obtained a lawyer named Craypants.

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<v Speaker 20>For the last twenty years, I bet at criminal defense attorney,

735
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:09.000
<v Speaker 20>practicing out of Columbus, Ohio, trying cases in state court,

736
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:14.039
<v Speaker 20>federal court, and representing people charged with really everything from

737
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:18.480
<v Speaker 20>speeding tickets to aggravated death penalty murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Brionna's bond was set at seven hundred and fifty grand,

739
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:26.519
<v Speaker 1>but she only spent two days in jail. Her family

740
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>bonded her out as fast as they could, and she

741
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 1>went home under strict conditions from the court. That's when

742
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Bob stepped into the picture and got to know her

743
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:37.519
<v Speaker 1>side of the story.

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00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.480
<v Speaker 20>When the family came in and then Brionn had a

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00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:46.000
<v Speaker 20>chance to explain what happened in her from her viewpoint.

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<v Speaker 20>You know, there's a lot of thoughts to kind of

747
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 20>go through your head, first one being you know, how

748
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:53.760
<v Speaker 20>accurate is this account and what other evidence is he

749
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:56.320
<v Speaker 20>going to be out there. I never really believe I

750
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:58.920
<v Speaker 20>think that a client comes in and tells me one

751
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:02.239
<v Speaker 20>hundred percent of the accurately, not because they're lied, but

752
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:06.760
<v Speaker 20>they remember it a certain way. But my initial thought was, Wow,

753
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.760
<v Speaker 20>this sounds to me like it was a self defense

754
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:14.679
<v Speaker 20>and more of an accident and unintentional, but also just

755
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:18.559
<v Speaker 20>a tragedy. Just a young girl sitting in front of me,

756
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:24.960
<v Speaker 20>very very young, and another young woman dead. So it

757
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 20>was just I hate to say senseless, but even at

758
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:29.880
<v Speaker 20>the first moment, I thought, this is just tragic.

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00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:33.920
<v Speaker 1>It was tragic the fight that never should have happened.

760
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Brianna may have been fortunate enough to have been bonded out,

761
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>but when she met her lawyer the first time, the

762
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:43.760
<v Speaker 1>prospect of going to prison for the rest of her

763
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>life wait on her heavily.

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<v Speaker 20>My memories, it was a Saturday morning in my office

765
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.559
<v Speaker 20>and she was there with her family, very quiet, very timid.

766
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 20>You know, she didn't just gush out with the account.

767
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:59.320
<v Speaker 20>I had to kind of, you know, ask specific questions

768
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:04.880
<v Speaker 20>and she would get to it, but very quiet, very scared,

769
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:09.599
<v Speaker 20>very concerned, very you know, overwhelmed. I mean, she had

770
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<v Speaker 20>just been released from the jail I suspect within a

771
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.639
<v Speaker 20>day of coming to my office, and her whole family

772
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.519
<v Speaker 20>just supportive, was scared and appreciative of just how serious

773
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:21.000
<v Speaker 20>this was.

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<v Speaker 1>And what about that text message, the one where Brianna

775
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:27.679
<v Speaker 1>said she would slice Helia's throat if she came after

776
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:31.679
<v Speaker 1>her previous tests showed that Brianna was upset because Helia

777
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:35.760
<v Speaker 1>had allegedly been driving past her house and making threats

778
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:39.800
<v Speaker 1>against her. Bob argues that the text had nothing to

779
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:41.159
<v Speaker 1>do with what happened that.

780
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<v Speaker 20>Night, and would argue to the jury that's irrelevant to

781
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:47.800
<v Speaker 20>what happened that night. It would be relevant if my

782
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.280
<v Speaker 20>client went looking for It would be relevant if my

783
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.039
<v Speaker 20>client said, there she is, I'm going to do what

784
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.280
<v Speaker 20>I said I'm going to do in that text, But

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<v Speaker 20>she didn't.

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<v Speaker 11>Go looking for.

787
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:59.360
<v Speaker 20>They ran into each other purely by accident, bad luck,

788
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:05.840
<v Speaker 20>just by answer. So despite the text, those words, her

789
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:10.400
<v Speaker 20>actions that I spoke louder, she backed up, She said

790
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:11.239
<v Speaker 20>I didn't want to fight.

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00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:12.679
<v Speaker 11>She tried to avoid it.

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<v Speaker 1>Brianna may have been backing away as Helia charged, screaming,

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<v Speaker 1>but according to Lee Detective Timothy Pribe, Brianna made one

794
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<v Speaker 1>move that raised questions. She had a weapon. Aliah didn't,

795
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.559
<v Speaker 1>and what Brianna did with that weapon gave the police

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00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:33.639
<v Speaker 1>pause when it came to her innocence.

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<v Speaker 17>Haliah was unarmed. She was clearly unarmed. She did assault

798
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<v Speaker 17>Brianna one time open handed smack, and then she turned

799
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<v Speaker 17>and she walked away. I believe it was Brianna pulled

800
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 17>out her knife ten to fifteen seconds prior to the smack,

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00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:59.039
<v Speaker 17>so there's there's more of an intent to harm on

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00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:02.559
<v Speaker 17>her part. And if she's pulling out a knife with

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00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:05.760
<v Speaker 17>an intent to do harm, that's a felonious assault, and

804
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<v Speaker 17>then that harm causes a death, that's a murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Pribe says that when they watched that video of

806
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the fight relentlessly, and not just their investigative team, but

807
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Pribe's boss and his boss's boss analyzing every millisecond to

808
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:24.559
<v Speaker 1>make sure they weren't seeing things the wrong way. He

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<v Speaker 1>says that Brianna pulled the knife out prior to being

810
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<v Speaker 1>slapped by Heliah. She holds it close to the side

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<v Speaker 1>of her thigh and the blade is out of the switch.

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<v Speaker 1>That made all the difference in his eyes.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, she keeps it concealed down at her leg mostly,

814
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:48.840
<v Speaker 17>she pulls it out in a very comfortable manner and

815
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<v Speaker 17>holds it down, and then after she slapped and Heliah

816
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:59.039
<v Speaker 17>is walking away, that's when.

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<v Speaker 11>She charges her.

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<v Speaker 17>The key portion of this incident or this altercation, is

819
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<v Speaker 17>that Afterjlia slaps her, she turns and starts to walk away,

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<v Speaker 17>and that's when Brianna then you know, starts to swing

821
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:18.960
<v Speaker 17>her knife, and she swings and misses, and then then

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<v Speaker 17>you see her come over the top and you know

823
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<v Speaker 17>hit her right, you know, right at the top of

824
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 17>the chest.

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Pride says that it wasn't the fact that she

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<v Speaker 1>had a knife that showed intent, but the manner in

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<v Speaker 1>which Brianna used it.

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<v Speaker 17>She doesn't want people to see that she has a

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<v Speaker 17>weapon out and ready to go. That's how I'm looking

830
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<v Speaker 17>at it, because she's not threatening her with it. She's

831
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<v Speaker 17>not trying to back her off with it. You know,

832
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<v Speaker 17>she's not protecting herself with it. She's initiating the assault

833
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<v Speaker 17>with a weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>You can watch the whole video in our bonus content,

835
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and we encourage it to. The footage of Helia's death

836
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<v Speaker 1>is hunting, but it also brought clarity. Every second of

837
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the raw, unfiltered truth was captured for both sides to examine.

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<v Speaker 1>The state indicted Brianna on three charges murder, murder committed

839
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<v Speaker 1>during a felonious assault, in voluntary manslaughter. She was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at fifteen years to life for the murder charges and

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<v Speaker 1>another three to eleven years for the manslaughter. As the

842
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 1>media grabbed hold of this sensational girl fight and did

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<v Speaker 1>what they always do, Bob worked on his defense, preparing

844
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<v Speaker 1>for an intense and very public trial.

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<v Speaker 20>When I first look at it, I say, this is

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<v Speaker 20>pretty classic self defense. Now, Ohio law changed somewhat recently.

847
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<v Speaker 20>It used to be that to claim self defense, the

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<v Speaker 20>defense would then have the burden of proving that the

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<v Speaker 20>person was in fear of imminent serious, farbly harm or

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<v Speaker 20>death and that you know, they did not use disproportional

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<v Speaker 20>force to repel the attack, and that was the burden

852
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:13.639
<v Speaker 20>of the defense. That changed Back in twenty and nineteen

853
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 20>there was a hospital that passed and signed by the governor,

854
00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:22.719
<v Speaker 20>and as a result of that, the prosecution now has

855
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.440
<v Speaker 20>the burden of proving that it is not self defense.

856
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Ohio was the thirty seventh state to pass this law,

857
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.599
<v Speaker 1>switching the burden of proof in a self defense claim

858
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 1>from the defense to the prosecution. To compound matters legally,

859
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Ohio passed another law in twenty twenty one concerning self

860
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 1>defense cases.

861
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:48.199
<v Speaker 20>And that was a change in the law regarding your

862
00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:52.039
<v Speaker 20>duty to retreat. It used to be that if you

863
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 20>had at you had a duty to retreat, unless, of course,

864
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 20>you're in your home or your vehicle, then you did

865
00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:59.960
<v Speaker 20>not have a duty. But otherwise you had the responsible

866
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.400
<v Speaker 20>if you could safely get away from the situation, you

867
00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:06.920
<v Speaker 20>had to get away from the situation. And if a

868
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:11.599
<v Speaker 20>jury determined that, yes, you were in fear of imminent

869
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:15.199
<v Speaker 20>serious bodily harm or death, yes you used reasonable force

870
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:18.519
<v Speaker 20>to repel the attack. Yes, you did not cause the

871
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:21.960
<v Speaker 20>situation that gave rise to the affray, but you had

872
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:24.519
<v Speaker 20>an out. You could have left out the back door

873
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:26.679
<v Speaker 20>of the bar you were in, or you could have

874
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:28.840
<v Speaker 20>run across the street from the field you were in.

875
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:32.320
<v Speaker 20>If they found that you had the opportunity and ability

876
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:36.000
<v Speaker 20>to escape without exposing yourself to more harm, you could

877
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:41.199
<v Speaker 20>not claim self defense. Between those two changes again fairly recently,

878
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:46.000
<v Speaker 20>you know, it's a It changes the dynamic a little

879
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 20>bit about how you look at self defense cases because

880
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.079
<v Speaker 20>now a jury is going to be instructed they are

881
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:57.159
<v Speaker 20>not even to consider whether or not the person could

882
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:00.239
<v Speaker 20>have escaped, could could have left, could have fled the situation.

883
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.360
<v Speaker 20>It's nothing for them to consider. They don't get to determine. Well,

884
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.280
<v Speaker 20>cheese that didn't have to happen. She could have left. Nope,

885
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:09.119
<v Speaker 20>she doesn't have a duty anymore.

886
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:13.320
<v Speaker 1>These changes to Ohio law were a clear win for

887
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the defense. Now it was the state's burden to prove

888
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:21.679
<v Speaker 1>that Brianna wasn't acting in legal self defense, and the

889
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.719
<v Speaker 1>jury couldn't fault her for staying in the parking lot

890
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:28.719
<v Speaker 1>before Helia struck first. With the video of the fight

891
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and the cascade of witnesses who all told the same story,

892
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:37.000
<v Speaker 1>it was looking like Brianna had a solid self defense case.

893
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Tensions were high as Bob worked on his defense and

894
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:45.599
<v Speaker 1>the prosecution prepared their arguments. Aliah may have started the fight,

895
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:49.800
<v Speaker 1>but she didn't walk into it expecting to die. No

896
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:53.599
<v Speaker 1>one ever does. I guess she didn't think Brianna would

897
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:56.800
<v Speaker 1>swing a knife. Who knows what was running through her

898
00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:00.280
<v Speaker 1>mind when she slapped Brianna across the face, but I'd

899
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:02.760
<v Speaker 1>bet the last thing she imagined was dying in a

900
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.199
<v Speaker 1>hospital less than an hour later, Because, like Brianna's boyfriend

901
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:10.639
<v Speaker 1>told the detective, a fight isn't just a fight anymore,

902
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:13.679
<v Speaker 1>not these days, that is, And.

903
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:18.519
<v Speaker 18>The way most of these people fight now, they fight

904
00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 18>to kill.

905
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Helia's family was grief stricken, giving very few interviews to

906
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:28.519
<v Speaker 1>the media. Kenzie posted videos on TikTok about how much

907
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:32.400
<v Speaker 1>she missed her best friend. The guilt must have weighed

908
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:35.840
<v Speaker 1>so heavily on her. Could she have done something to

909
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:39.199
<v Speaker 1>stop this? Maybe if she'd been the only friend with

910
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Helia that night, none of this would have happened. As

911
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:47.159
<v Speaker 1>for Dalen, he was quiet all of a sudden, but

912
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Brianna's lawyer, Bob was zeroing in on him because Bob

913
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.840
<v Speaker 1>had reviewed the case inside and out, and according to him,

914
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Dalen held as much responsibility in Helia's death as Brianna did.

915
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:04.440
<v Speaker 20>But I recognize right away that this dayling kid who's

916
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:10.000
<v Speaker 20>recording this and encouraging it, it may not have happened

917
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:12.840
<v Speaker 20>had he not been doing what he was doing. People

918
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.400
<v Speaker 20>don't act the same when they know they're being videoed.

919
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:21.239
<v Speaker 20>They perform okay. And you know, this young man was

920
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:25.679
<v Speaker 20>the oldest of anybody there, and he could have stopped

921
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:28.920
<v Speaker 20>us so easily, But he egged it on while they

922
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.199
<v Speaker 20>were waiting for Breonn to leave the store. He egged

923
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:35.480
<v Speaker 20>it on while it was happening. This process of events,

924
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:38.679
<v Speaker 20>all of these little decisions that were made in the

925
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 20>span of call it ten minutes that evening. At any

926
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:46.079
<v Speaker 20>given point, one different decision, and this doesn't happen. Aliah

927
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:46.840
<v Speaker 20>is alive today.

928
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:49.719
<v Speaker 1>If Aleah had been alone in the store that night,

929
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:53.000
<v Speaker 1>she might have just flipped Brianna off and gone home

930
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the rant about it on social media. But she wasn't alone.

931
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:05.719
<v Speaker 1>She had Dayalen, self proclaimed brother, her hype man, her

932
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:10.239
<v Speaker 1>fierce defender, her peanut gallery. I could go on and on,

933
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:15.639
<v Speaker 1>and with him by her side, everything changed. Dalen, with

934
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:20.440
<v Speaker 1>his tears and loyalty, his dramatic storytelling and ride er

935
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Die energy. He was the one who hit record. Heleia

936
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:28.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just showing off for Dalen and his phone. She

937
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:32.360
<v Speaker 1>was performing for the entire internet. That's a lot of people.

938
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:35.400
<v Speaker 1>She knew this clip would hit social media. She knew

939
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 1>this would be on sortain scale. Now she didn't, but

940
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:41.679
<v Speaker 1>you get my draft. She wasn't just in a fight.

941
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:46.119
<v Speaker 1>She was on a stage with an invisible crowd ready

942
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to judge her, mock her, and meme her. Y'all motherfuckers

943
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:55.719
<v Speaker 1>are vicious. That kind of pressure warps everything in anything.

944
00:54:56.679 --> 00:55:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why she didn't back down, even when knife

945
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:03.960
<v Speaker 1>was flashed inches from her face. Maybe that's why she

946
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:08.880
<v Speaker 1>kept threatening Brianna, acting harder than she felt, because fear

947
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:13.960
<v Speaker 1>in a viral video looks like weakness, and nobody wants

948
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 1>to be weak. And Brianna, maybe you shouldn't pull that

949
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:20.480
<v Speaker 1>knife out to win the fight. Maybe she pulled it

950
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:24.639
<v Speaker 1>out because she knew losing would be captured, replayed, and

951
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:29.480
<v Speaker 1>ridiculed endlessly. Maybe the blade wasn't about fear of Helia.

952
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was about fear of becoming a joke on

953
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:36.599
<v Speaker 1>the internet, the girl who got wrecked and went viral

954
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>for all the wrong reasons, that sort of thing, and

955
00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:47.039
<v Speaker 1>it still happened anyway. But by hitting record, Dalen changed

956
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:50.519
<v Speaker 1>the entire course of these girls' lives.

957
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:52.920
<v Speaker 20>All it takes is for a friend to say, hey,

958
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.119
<v Speaker 20>you know what, let her go, let's get in the car,

959
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:58.119
<v Speaker 20>or I'm gonna put my phone away, I'm not gonna

960
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:01.679
<v Speaker 20>do this, or you know what, Halih, let's go. You

961
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.199
<v Speaker 20>know whatever, She's not worth it. One person says that,

962
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:09.280
<v Speaker 20>and maybe it derails the whole thing. Maybe the decision

963
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:11.519
<v Speaker 20>by mind client preant to stay in this store longer.

964
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:11.719
<v Speaker 10>Now.

965
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:13.480
<v Speaker 20>I don't know if she even knew Hilia was waiting

966
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.920
<v Speaker 20>for or when she did see her, maybe retreat back

967
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:20.199
<v Speaker 20>into the store, or don't pull the knife out of

968
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:23.960
<v Speaker 20>my pocket, or don't open the knife. Okay, I mean

969
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:27.039
<v Speaker 20>there's many, many decisions that were made by multiple people,

970
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:30.719
<v Speaker 20>and any one of them a different decision. I think

971
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 20>this thing goes a different direction.

972
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:34.800
<v Speaker 11>Look at the Brian, his boyfriend.

973
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:36.800
<v Speaker 17>I mean, yeah, he was standing next to her the

974
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:40.559
<v Speaker 17>whole time, and he was kind of sort of trying

975
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:43.480
<v Speaker 17>to stop it. But if he was the biggest dude

976
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:46.239
<v Speaker 17>out there, I mean, if he could have just walked

977
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:47.719
<v Speaker 17>her to the car and put her in the car,

978
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:51.840
<v Speaker 17>that was always an option, you know, But they stood

979
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:55.159
<v Speaker 17>out there, and I get it. It's it's a situation

980
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:58.559
<v Speaker 17>that you can't you know, you necessarily don't know what

981
00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:00.480
<v Speaker 17>you're going to do when you're in that situation. But

982
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:05.159
<v Speaker 17>so many things that people could have just made decisions

983
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.800
<v Speaker 17>to step in and de escalate it.

984
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Many people could have stepped in, but they didn't. It

985
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.800
<v Speaker 1>really came down to Haliah, Dalen, and Brianna, who each

986
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:20.159
<v Speaker 1>played a part in how this night unraveled. They all

987
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:23.719
<v Speaker 1>had choices, and they all made the wrong ones, feeding

988
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:28.719
<v Speaker 1>off of each other's fear, ego and adrenaline idiots wilden

989
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:32.519
<v Speaker 1>on TikTok so much. Should really do a study on

990
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:36.559
<v Speaker 1>how much harm and literal death social media has inadvertently caused.

991
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:40.679
<v Speaker 1>The results are probably terrifying, which is why we'll never

992
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:43.960
<v Speaker 1>get one. That and the fact that morons love to

993
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.599
<v Speaker 1>change the meaning of words, kind of like these kids

994
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:51.119
<v Speaker 1>often to suit their own narrative. So harm, what harm?

995
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:53.800
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean by harm? Never heard of it?

996
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:59.480
<v Speaker 1>What's your definition of harm? That sort of thing? Utter bullshit.

997
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:03.920
<v Speaker 1>The whole mess was a chain reaction. Aliah paid with

998
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:09.400
<v Speaker 1>her life, Brianna faced prison, and Dalen Well, that innocent,

999
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:12.880
<v Speaker 1>doe eyed stoner boy with a magical cackle that resonates

1000
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:15.719
<v Speaker 1>throughout the vape store, strip mall parking lot and a

1001
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:20.280
<v Speaker 1>heart of gold. Well he walked away scott free, like

1002
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:25.719
<v Speaker 1>just another witness. When Bob said, he was so much more.

1003
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:29.159
<v Speaker 20>So when I look at who's responsible or who played

1004
00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:32.559
<v Speaker 20>a part in his death, I look at him and say,

1005
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:35.719
<v Speaker 20>you know what you had? You had such a role

1006
00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:38.360
<v Speaker 20>in this thing, and it was so unnecessary, and it

1007
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:41.400
<v Speaker 20>was so childish, and it's so dangerous, and it's just

1008
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:45.320
<v Speaker 20>so maddening that right away I'm thinking you know. I

1009
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:50.119
<v Speaker 20>can understand Alia, I can understand Brianna. I can't understand Dalen.

1010
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:54.199
<v Speaker 1>We looked up Dalen's record. Of course, by twenty one,

1011
00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:59.280
<v Speaker 1>he'd racked up nine arrests drunk driving, assault and firearm charges.

1012
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:03.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, like a gangster. Half came before Helia's death

1013
00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 1>and the other half came after, like clockwork. Dalen was astray,

1014
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:11.800
<v Speaker 1>cut loose by his own family, absorbed into Kenzie and

1015
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Helia's orbit like a ticking time bomb. Maybe he knew

1016
00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:20.519
<v Speaker 1>what he did. Maybe the arrests, the violence, the reckless spiral,

1017
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:27.639
<v Speaker 1>they weren't just all accidents. They were confessions written and chaos.

1018
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:30.360
<v Speaker 20>I'll be honest. When I first met with the prosecutor,

1019
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:33.280
<v Speaker 20>my first suggestion was to charge that guy. But they

1020
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:36.559
<v Speaker 20>felt that, Yeah, after interviewing all the other windowses, they

1021
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:38.199
<v Speaker 20>felt that, you know, Halia was going to do what

1022
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:41.159
<v Speaker 20>Halia was going to do, and he did really spill

1023
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:45.760
<v Speaker 20>the blame over to Dalen. I see it differently, but

1024
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:51.440
<v Speaker 20>you know, that's that's not unusual to me. There's some responsibility.

1025
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:54.480
<v Speaker 20>This should have been placed at his feet, but.

1026
00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:58.880
<v Speaker 1>That wasn't going to happen. Still, Brianna was the killer,

1027
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:03.280
<v Speaker 1>not Dylan. She was on trial for murder, and Bob

1028
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:05.840
<v Speaker 1>had a big task ahead of him. Despite the law

1029
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:10.679
<v Speaker 1>changes that swayed in his direction, Brianna made the choice

1030
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:15.159
<v Speaker 1>to pull out that knife and swing it. She killed Aliyah.

1031
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:16.760
<v Speaker 1>End of story.

1032
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:21.159
<v Speaker 20>You know, I thought we had a problem with the weapon,

1033
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:23.800
<v Speaker 20>and I also thought that we had a problem or

1034
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:28.760
<v Speaker 20>difficulty with just the sadness of the thing. There is

1035
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:32.159
<v Speaker 20>a there is a family who is grieving, and rightfully so.

1036
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:37.039
<v Speaker 20>There's a girl there who is young and dead, and

1037
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:41.679
<v Speaker 20>it's it's horrible, and juris feel that they see sympathy,

1038
01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:45.079
<v Speaker 20>and it's it's normal as humans, we want somebody to

1039
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:48.800
<v Speaker 20>answer for this tragedy. We want somebody to be responsible

1040
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:55.400
<v Speaker 20>for this tragedy, and the only person on trial is Brionna.

1041
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:58.599
<v Speaker 20>My whole approach was my client didn't want to fight,

1042
01:00:58.920 --> 01:00:59.880
<v Speaker 20>She wanted to back up.

1043
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:01.119
<v Speaker 11>She kept backing up.

1044
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:04.000
<v Speaker 20>She wanted to get out of there, and that you know,

1045
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:07.119
<v Speaker 20>at some point I would have argued to the jury

1046
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:09.800
<v Speaker 20>that you know, the most timid of animals, when you

1047
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.960
<v Speaker 20>corner it, it has no choice what to lunch forward,

1048
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:15.519
<v Speaker 20>to do something to try to get out of that situation.

1049
01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:20.480
<v Speaker 1>But the trial would never come because in early June

1050
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty four, just before Brionna's murder trial was

1051
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:27.039
<v Speaker 1>set to start, the prosecution suddenly dropped the charges and

1052
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:31.159
<v Speaker 1>offered Brianna the chance to plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter.

1053
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:34.519
<v Speaker 1>That was the plea you heard her accepting in the

1054
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:38.199
<v Speaker 1>beginning of this episode. The evidence was too strong for

1055
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the defense to argue that this was intentional murder. It

1056
01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:45.039
<v Speaker 1>was very clear that no one went to the smoke

1057
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:48.760
<v Speaker 1>shop that evening with the intent of Helia losing her life.

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01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:53.719
<v Speaker 1>When that fateful sentencing day came, Helia's family huddled on

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01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:57.000
<v Speaker 1>one side of the courtroom while the baron Zenies were

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01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:59.800
<v Speaker 1>on the other. Brianna stood in front of the judge

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01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and accepted her guilt for Helia's death. Before the judge

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01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:07.519
<v Speaker 1>relayed her punishment, Helia's family had a chance to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenzie stood up first, barely able to get her words

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01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:16.280
<v Speaker 1>out between sobs. After describing what a tough yet sensitive

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01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:19.840
<v Speaker 1>girl Heliah was, she got into how this had all

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01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:21.599
<v Speaker 1>changed her life.

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<v Speaker 8>I'd rather be standing at her wedding and giving a

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01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:31.599
<v Speaker 8>speech or her graduation, but I'm here and I know Julia,

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01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:36.440
<v Speaker 8>and I know her killer. The best six years of

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01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:42.159
<v Speaker 8>my life, I've dealt with her killer, her family. And

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<v Speaker 8>when I finally thought I was getting away away from

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01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:48.400
<v Speaker 8>these people, and I finally got my family away from

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01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:55.559
<v Speaker 8>these people, Helia's killer did this to the most important

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01:02:55.599 --> 01:02:59.119
<v Speaker 8>person in my life. That night, I felt a part

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01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:02.320
<v Speaker 8>of my soul, more like all of it left when

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01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:07.559
<v Speaker 8>Helia left. I hope that her killer gets the maximum sentence.

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<v Speaker 8>I hope you realize or understand somewhat.

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<v Speaker 6>Who Helia what was really was in this world.

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<v Speaker 8>A daughter or sister, a cousin, a friend, a student,

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01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:21.719
<v Speaker 8>a coworker, a granddaughter and niece aunt. She was someone's

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01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:24.800
<v Speaker 8>child that got taken too soon, and she's now forever

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01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:25.840
<v Speaker 8>seventeen years old.

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<v Speaker 1>The blame that Heleia and her supporters placed on the

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01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:35.239
<v Speaker 1>entire Baronzini family was palpable, especially when Helia's mother got

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01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:35.920
<v Speaker 1>up to speak.

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<v Speaker 9>In most scenarios, bringing a knife to a fistfight is

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01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:47.400
<v Speaker 9>considered unethical, illegal, dangerous. It's crucial to approach conflicts with

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01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:51.280
<v Speaker 9>a mindset of de escalation and consider the potential consequences

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01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:56.360
<v Speaker 9>of introducing a weapon into a physical altercation. The right

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01:03:56.440 --> 01:04:01.360
<v Speaker 9>course of action usually involved seeking a nonviolent resolution to

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01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:05.760
<v Speaker 9>ensure your safety through legal and ethical means. Here we

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01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:10.480
<v Speaker 9>have a smart, college educated four point zero student with

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01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:14.280
<v Speaker 9>so many recommendations from friends and family for the pre

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01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:18.440
<v Speaker 9>sentencing investigation. That sounds like someone that should know the

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01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:22.079
<v Speaker 9>difference between right and wrong. Maybe she's just smart enough

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01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:22.880
<v Speaker 9>to play us all.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Bob said, in a senseless tragedy like this, everyone

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01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:31.920
<v Speaker 1>is searching for someone to blame. Eliah's family blamed Brianna,

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01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:36.199
<v Speaker 1>and Brianna's family blamed he Leah, but both girls for

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01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:40.559
<v Speaker 1>some responsibility for the way that that night transpired. That

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01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:44.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't make it fair, but it was the cold, harsh truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the judge relayed his decision, the prosecution made one

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01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:53.079
<v Speaker 1>last plea to the courtroom, arguing that Brianna reacted with

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01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:56.920
<v Speaker 1>disproportionate rage and intent not fear.

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<v Speaker 14>It is reasonable that those actions would anger Brianna Barzini. However,

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01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:08.559
<v Speaker 14>none of those actions justified Brianna Barzee taking a knife

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01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:13.079
<v Speaker 14>and plunging it into Holi as clavigal. Rather, that is

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01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:19.159
<v Speaker 14>an act of unjustifiable rage, as stabbing is a disproportionate

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01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:21.159
<v Speaker 14>response to a slap.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutors asked for the maximum sentence. Brianna stood up

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01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:29.360
<v Speaker 1>and apologized for what she did, saying that she will

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01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:31.079
<v Speaker 1>live with the guilt for the rest of her life.

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01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Then the judge reminded the court that she was facing

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01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:38.159
<v Speaker 1>three years in prison and a ten thousand dollars fine.

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01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:43.239
<v Speaker 1>That was the maximum. Then he gave it to her,

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01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:48.440
<v Speaker 1>reminding her to stay out of trouble. Behind bars. Brianna

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01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:50.599
<v Speaker 1>was taken away to prison.

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<v Speaker 17>When it comes down to it, all in reality should

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01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:57.760
<v Speaker 17>have been was just a fight, just you know, if

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<v Speaker 17>his fight of some sorts, and then the guys would

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01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:02.599
<v Speaker 17>have stepped in, hopefully and just broke it up, and

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01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:04.199
<v Speaker 17>they would have yelled each other, they would have went

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01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:06.840
<v Speaker 17>on their way, you know, and there you know, nobody

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01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:08.719
<v Speaker 17>would have lost their life out of it. Cops probably

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01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:11.559
<v Speaker 17>wouldn't even have been called for it. But you know,

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01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:15.519
<v Speaker 17>Brianna chose to bring out a weapon and then to

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01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:20.079
<v Speaker 17>use that weapon in the course of that assault, so

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<v Speaker 17>she escalated it, and that's that's how I look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>The video Dalen captured still haunts Holiah's family. These were

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01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:32.519
<v Speaker 1>her final moments and they were nothing like the Heliah

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01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:38.599
<v Speaker 1>they knew and loved. And then she was gone. Brianna

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01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:42.599
<v Speaker 1>currently sits in jail. She filed a motion of early

1133
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:46.119
<v Speaker 1>release and it's been granted this August, which means she

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01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:49.320
<v Speaker 1>will have only served one year for the death of

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<v Speaker 1>Heliah Culbertson one year. Detective Pride knows that what happened

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01:06:57.280 --> 01:06:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that night was a series of bad choices by every

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01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:04.280
<v Speaker 1>person in that parking lot, but he believes Brianna got

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01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:05.079
<v Speaker 1>away with murder.

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<v Speaker 17>She's the one who brought a weapon into the fight.

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01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:10.039
<v Speaker 17>She brought a knife into a fistfight, and I think

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01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:11.880
<v Speaker 17>that there should have been more consequences for that.

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01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:15.360
<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of bad decisions made that night.

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01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Aliah made one when she escalated the argument with a slap,

1144
01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Brianna made one when she pulled out a knife in

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01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the middle of a fist fight. And Dalen, well, Dalen

1146
01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:30.400
<v Speaker 1>made his when he chose to hype up Palia and

1147
01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:35.239
<v Speaker 1>film the fight instead of stopping it. Because Dalen is

1148
01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:41.079
<v Speaker 1>an asshole. Once that camera comes out, everything changes. This

1149
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:44.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just a fight anymore. It was a show, and

1150
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:47.559
<v Speaker 1>all three of them knew it. They weren't just teenagers

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01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:50.199
<v Speaker 1>in a parking lot, finally forced to face their internet

1152
01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:54.280
<v Speaker 1>fights in the real world. Now they were performers playing

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01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:58.159
<v Speaker 1>to an invisible audience on social media, a bunch of

1154
01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:02.840
<v Speaker 1>board assholes that are taking a shit. That's what raised

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01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:08.039
<v Speaker 1>the stakes. Social Media didn't kill Heliah, That's not what

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01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:12.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. But it created the environment for her to die,

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01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:17.640
<v Speaker 1>a changed behavior. It added pressure, It made everything feel

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01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:22.039
<v Speaker 1>dramatic and impossible to walk away from. A modern teenager's

1159
01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:27.359
<v Speaker 1>world is already so insular, impulsive, and emotional, trapped behind

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01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:31.840
<v Speaker 1>a screen where reality is half baked. But when performance

1161
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:36.960
<v Speaker 1>becomes instinct, and every reaction is subconsciously shaped for an audience,

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01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:40.760
<v Speaker 1>even real danger can feel like just another scene to

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01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:46.000
<v Speaker 1>play out. And in the end, Helia died, Brianna went

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01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:49.760
<v Speaker 1>to prison, and Dalen walked away with no charges whatsoever,

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01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:54.319
<v Speaker 1>just a ghost in the margins of a murder. He

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01:08:54.479 --> 01:08:58.479
<v Speaker 1>helped set an emotion. No one wins in a story

1167
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:02.039
<v Speaker 1>like this, because the truth is it didn't have to happen.

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01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:06.199
<v Speaker 1>But when teenagers are raised in a world where everything

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01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:10.720
<v Speaker 1>is filmed, where attention is currency, and where the pressure

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01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:14.399
<v Speaker 1>to show off never shuts off, even a fistfight can

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01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:19.840
<v Speaker 1>turn into a performance. This time that performance ended in death.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just tragic. That's the cost of a culture

1173
01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:48.840
<v Speaker 1>that values footage more than the fallout. Speaking of footage,

1174
01:09:49.239 --> 01:09:52.680
<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of it. Sword and Scale Television

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01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:54.079
<v Speaker 1>available at swordscale dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>I know you want it, you cheap fuck go get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only twenty bucks and you can get twenty episodes

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01:09:59.840 --> 01:10:02.600
<v Speaker 1>right now. They're an hour long each. That's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of true cry