WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:06.879 Big Food and Beyond. 2 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:10.960 With Cliff and Bulbo. These guys are your favorites, so 3 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:13.160 like to subscribe and read it. 4 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:16.199 Five Stock and Me. 5 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:25.480 Grates on Yesterday and listening watching Lim always keep it Squatching. 6 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.399 And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James booble Fay. 7 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:32.600 Hey Bob, So what's happening man? 8 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:37.280 Oh, not much, just uh getting ready for a pod. 9 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:39.600 Getting ready for a pod. Yeah, Well, we have a 10 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:43.240 little bit more sad news to uh spread this week. Unfortunately, 11 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:47.240 good friend of ours, great bigfoot researcher, guy who's been 12 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:50.359 in the game a long time, super enthusiastic, super active, 13 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:53.000 Scott Violette, has passed away. Unfortunately. 14 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:56.920 Yeah, it's terrible, man. He's a great guy. Him and 15 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:59.920 his wife Hannah had that Squatch America that were going on. 16 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:02.200 We had him on the show. I mean they were 17 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:06.439 guests on here, and well, I just feel terrible for Hannah. 18 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:08.799 And he was I mean, he was he knew his stuff, 19 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:11.719 he was level headed, I mean, he was open minded, 20 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:13.920 he was he was just a really good dude and 21 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:15.239 truly dedicated. 22 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:17.480 Yeah, and outside of the bigfoot world, he was a 23 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:19.719 veteran of course, I think he served in Afghanistan if 24 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:23.480 I remember correctly. And yeah, and he was just a 25 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.359 great dude to be around. Who I mean, the entire community. 26 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:29.200 If you knew the guy, your bundy's gone. I mean 27 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:31.200 it's the bottom line, Like, this's not like anybody didn't 28 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:34.239 like the guy. He was beloved wherever he went, you know. 29 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.280 So he's huge loss for the Bigfoot community. Super sad 30 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:37.840 to see him go. 31 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:40.359 It just like a week and a half after Jeff. 32 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:42.519 I mean, it's just they go in threes. It's like 33 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:45.439 God just dreading if someone else is going to pop 34 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:48.920 up now. Yeah, well this is for you, Scott. 35 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:51.560 Yeah, and then for it's worth you know, to help 36 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:54.319 Hannah out throughout this time. And she has a GoFundMe 37 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:56.400 going Prude'll put that in the show notes. If you 38 00:01:56.439 --> 00:01:58.920 have an extra buck, like even a dollar, if you 39 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:00.599 have one hundred dollars, come my gosh, give it, but 40 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.680 an extra dollar. If if half of our listenership did that, 41 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:08.039 she would be very very much better off than she 42 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:11.360 is right now. So give what you can help help 43 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:16.240 Hannah out in Scott's memory, And yeah, but we don't 44 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:19.400 want to dwell too long on the sad news. What 45 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:20.360 have you been doing bobs. 46 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:23.560 Uh when I went to get my phone again in 47 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:26.000 the day, but it ended up pouring Like they said 48 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:27.599 it was gonna start raining kind of light and the 49 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:31.400 late after early afternoon and then pick up this you 50 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:33.360 know later than that you really start raining. But it 51 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:36.159 was dumping about like eight thirty nine this morning was 52 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:40.479 like fully just pouring rain. So we uh made it 53 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:42.080 a tempt but it was just it was so wet. 54 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:45.240 It was like, no way, it's it's gonna be too 55 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:47.000 like we you know, were supposed to go down like 56 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:48.280 the hill side and stuff. It was gonna be like 57 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:50.919 way too muddy slippery. So supposed to rain for a 58 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:52.879 couple of days, like another day or so and then 59 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:54.719 wait till it drives up a little bit and go 60 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:55.560 back up there again. 61 00:02:56.199 --> 00:02:58.560 And you need the phone now for what reason? Is 62 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:00.639 it just just the pictures and stuff fun there because 63 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:04.680 it's been this deactivated, right, yeah, but it's. 64 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:08.319 Still it's still getting my messages for to open up 65 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:11.319 my online accounts. Most of them are still going, like 66 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:13.879 the banking stuff are still going to that other phone. 67 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:16.639 Okay, well, it seems like that could be taken care 68 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:17.479 of on the back end. 69 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:19.680 That's a long story. I'll tell you later. 70 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:22.599 Okay, very good, very good. Well you've been out of 71 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:24.360 the field at all, you've been doing anything interesting like that, 72 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:26.759 any bigfoot stuff. You said there were some tracks or 73 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:27.759 something right there. 74 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:31.599 That got rained out this morning too. We're gonna go. 75 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:33.960 We're gonna go. Look. But the guy was, he was 76 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:35.759 his job was he was in charge of the guys 77 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:38.479 monitoring the fire old fire lines up there from the fire. 78 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:41.680 But they all they didn't they bounced today because it 79 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:43.639 was poor and run. They just didn't even come into work. 80 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:45.879 Well, they're in the area. It's a good place to go. 81 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:48.000 I guess we'll probably leave some more prints. 82 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:49.759 Doug and Todd we're sitting on the side of the 83 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:53.319 road on the Go road on Donahue Flat intersection there, 84 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:56.039 you know, like six miles up whatever that is. And 85 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:57.560 this guy pulls because you guys, all right, you need 86 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:59.680 help anything like now, we're just chilling, you know, hang, guys, 87 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:01.159 what are you doing here? They're like, oh, we're looking 88 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:02.759 for big fist. If he goes, no way goes. Check 89 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:04.759 this out. He jumps out of his truck, shows me 90 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:06.639 we had his on a cell phone. He found tracks 91 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:10.520 the day before offtime. He fled along along the cut line. 92 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:13.319 He was hiking it. There was prints coming down. I 93 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:16.480 guess they're not much bigger than mine, probably my shoe, 94 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:19.079 But there came they weren't They weren't huge. I could 95 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:22.839 be twelve thirteen inches, it looked like. And they the 96 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:25.839 guy uh took pictures, like just two photos, one of 97 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:27.639 the track line, one of one of the tracks up close, 98 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:29.839 so you could see all the toes, like the detail 99 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:32.839 like it was in kind of like the sophom like 100 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:36.000 kind of half dried mud. They said it looked really good, 101 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:37.759 and they waited. He said, he goes, hey, I gotta 102 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:39.199 do something for ten minutes. I'll be right back. I'll 103 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.319 take you guys right to it. Jumped in his truck, goes, 104 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:43.439 wait here, I'll be back on ten, and took off 105 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:45.360 and never came back. They waited over two hours. The 106 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:46.319 guy never showed up. 107 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:50.399 That's unfortunate. I assume they didn't find it. 108 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:52.600 They didn't even look, dude, they didn't know it was 109 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:54.000 somewhere along the burn line. 110 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:56.079 No, that's the kind of dangerous if you're going to 111 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:58.480 go play around in those areas. I guess, well, cool, 112 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:00.600 Well I got out a little bit. My brother was 113 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:05.399 in town. My brother showed up last Wednesday, Rob Rob exactly. 114 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:07.439 So he showed up Wednesday night. I picked him at 115 00:05:07.439 --> 00:05:10.040 the airport, you know, and I've made some dinner at 116 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:12.519 the house, just hung out. Thursday, took them out to 117 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:14.279 the woods all day just to say, hey, this is 118 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:15.639 this is what your brother is up to. This is 119 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:18.160 what I do at least once a week, because that's 120 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:20.240 it had been a while as well. I've been pretty 121 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:23.279 tied up with some other way more important stuff unfortunately, 122 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.079 dealing with like the meldrum stuff, that all that sort 123 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:30.399 of thing. But I did get out to the woods 124 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:32.480 on Wednesday for the first time in a couple of 125 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:35.240 weeks and went to some of the regular spots, you know, 126 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:37.319 the outer rim. Basically, I'm not you know, I'm not 127 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:40.000 really going to the other spots so much at this point. 128 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:43.040 So I'm trying out some new regular spots because I 129 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:45.319 have like four or five spots I try to frequent, 130 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:49.480 some kind of diversifying my locations. 131 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:49.480 At the moment. 132 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:51.600 Because of those fake tracks that were found out there 133 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:54.800 and at one of my regular spots in July, so 134 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:58.560 I'm leaving that one alone for from now on, basically, 135 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.319 because the other spots are just as good and nobody 136 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:02.959 knows where those are, and I don't have to be 137 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:06.399 concerned about infiltrators and hoaxers and all that sort of stuff. 138 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:08.160 I'm not sure how word got out on that one, 139 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.279 but somebody told somebody and told somebody else sort of thing. 140 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:14.199 So anyway, but sure enough I found tracks. I found 141 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:19.279 a fourteen inch track that wasn't too old, I'm guessing 142 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:22.240 within a week or so, maybe two, because I want 143 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:24.800 to show my brother some tracks in the ground, you know. So, 144 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:29.800 and I located a trackway of three different individuals. Back 145 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:32.279 in June, I was out there with my buddy Kelly 146 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:33.879 the mue and that guy from buck Cherry, you know. 147 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:37.639 And so I took him out there and we found tracks. 148 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:43.240 That day, I visited again with I think I went 149 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:46.279 out with Less Stroud. Next we did this little filming 150 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:48.480 out there for his documentary. So I put him on 151 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:52.720 a trackway and you know, film some stuff, cast a 152 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:54.879 couple of them. A couple of them came out pretty 153 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:57.839 okay too, not the usual blobso plaster. And then I 154 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:00.879 brought Darby out there when he visited July, and so 155 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:02.959 I figured, you know what, tracks round here can last 156 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:05.439 a long time. So I went out to the outer 157 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:07.720 rim in hopes of finding one or two that were 158 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:09.600 still in okay shape so I can show my brother 159 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:13.160 some tracks in the ground. And we got out there, 160 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:15.000 there was nothing new going on. We looked to change 161 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:16.800 the cameras out that we have out there and stuff. 162 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:19.199 Didn't find any other tracks. Didn't go to the swamp 163 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.000 that would have been some pretty rough, you know, hiking 164 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:25.319 from my brother. But we did locate the trackway and 165 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:28.360 there was a handprint there that still looked okay. You 166 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:31.240 can see all the fingers and stuff. And then that 167 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:33.160 was on the berm going up on the side of 168 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.000 the abandoned logging road that we were walking on. And 169 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:38.360 then I showed him with a couple of tracks, a 170 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:41.000 couple of tracks that we had already cast, and then 171 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:42.920 we went off in the woods. I did find a 172 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:45.680 track that I had not cast or done anything with 173 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:47.639 that the big toe and that couple of the other 174 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:50.920 toes impressed into the moss a little bit and had 175 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:53.279 a nice heel, So I got to show him that, 176 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.000 which is nice. And then we went back to the 177 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:00.120 car and to get some water, and then I said, well, 178 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:01.680 you know, let me go look down this other side 179 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:04.079 road that I almost never go on, but I have 180 00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:07.079 found tracks down there one other time. I found the 181 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:10.360 seventeen incher down there one time. We nicknamed that Sasquatch 182 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:14.360 Jaba because we nicknamed this whole place the Outer Rim. 183 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:17.319 So last year I did find a track one time 184 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:19.800 down the side road, so I said, let's try that. 185 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:22.639 Let's go down there. My brother decided to stay at 186 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:24.439 the car and kind of poke around and just enjoy 187 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:26.839 the silence, because you know, he lives in Long Beach, California, 188 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.399 within hearing distance of the freeway and stuff, so he 189 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:34.360 really enjoys the silence of coming up to Oregon to 190 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:36.840 visit his little brother. So he stayed at the car, 191 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:40.120 and I walked down the road this other trail thing 192 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:44.840 about ten minutes down and towards the end, probably within 193 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:48.159 fifty yards of where we found Jaba's track. Last year, 194 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:50.799 I found this other track. It seemed to be of 195 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.679 the fourteen inch individual. It was on a slight incline, 196 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.720 like maybe a thirty degree slope, and it was walking 197 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:02.440 alongside the slope to the point where it The only 198 00:09:02.440 --> 00:09:04.960 reason I really even noticed it because the impression wasn't 199 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:07.159 deep at all, and that's kind of a one of 200 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:10.120 these myths about the bigfoot tracks is that they're insanely 201 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:13.200 deep because they're super super heavy, and yeah, that can 202 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:15.120 be true sometimes, but I don't find that to be 203 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:15.879 true most of the time. 204 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:16.320 Honestly. 205 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:19.840 The only reason I noticed this one it had a 206 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:22.399 pretty nice heel and then a couple of the toes 207 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:26.399 impressed really nicely. Not deep though, because what happened here 208 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:30.080 is that the foot pushed down and then slid slightly 209 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:35.120 sideways a little bit to the left. And what that 210 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:38.039 did is it disturbed the top layer of soil and 211 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:43.399 exposed a slightly moisture layer underneath, so you could see 212 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:46.120 the darkness of the soil. It was a darker color 213 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:48.639 than the stuff that was you know, sun bleached and 214 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:51.559 bone dry up on top. And so you can actually 215 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:55.200 see all four or five toes in there. Beautiful heel. 216 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:57.919 It measured about fourteen inches long, and there were some 217 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:00.240 other scuffs nearby, but that was the only track that 218 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:03.320 you can really make things out of, you know, And 219 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:05.480 the rest of this stuff was, Oh, I can tell 220 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.279 something walked here because the ground was disturbed, but you could. 221 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:11.799 You couldn't really nail any shape or anything down. So 222 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:13.799 I did send you a picture of that one, right, Yeah, 223 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:14.000 I was. 224 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:16.159 Gonna say, I got the picture of that. Yeah, that's cool. 225 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:19.120 How those those ones that aren't how do they shop 226 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:20.600 with a three D scan of the show up on 227 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:22.279 the app? You got? Not? 228 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:26.200 Well? Not well? But I believe me, check real fast 229 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:28.200 on my phone right here. I'm pretty sure I scanned 230 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:32.440 that one mostly the scans on my phone. At least 231 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:34.879 they have the GPS coordinates on it, because you know, 232 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:38.480 I keep the uh my e x IF information on 233 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:40.840 the download there. I don't really, I don't. I don't 234 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:45.000 show the locations on my photographs, you know, because it's 235 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.120 nobody's business where on Bigfoot as far as I'm concerned. No, no, 236 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.519 they It turned out okay. But you know, I can 237 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:52.120 export it as a little movie and I'll send it 238 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:53.879 to you. Maybe Matt Proute'll put it on the members 239 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:56.440 or something like that for you. So maybe that's a 240 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:58.440 good way to go with it. But yeah, yeah, So 241 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:00.679 I found a pretty cool track this this this week. 242 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:03.919 It's nice to getut in the woods, and honestly, I 243 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.080 mean it's a weird thing to say. My young Cliff 244 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:08.399 would never ever say this, but I'm kind of looking 245 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.200 forward to the end of summer here and you know, 246 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:15.200 the onset of fall and winter, because the tracking is 247 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:17.600 so much better during those months, even though a lot 248 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:20.600 of the area is inaccessible because of snow, especially once 249 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:23.440 winter hits, but the tracking is just so much better. 250 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:26.679 And in the ground, you know, the ground's all dry 251 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:29.120 and crusty during the summer, it's like, yeah, this sucks, man, 252 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:31.200 Let's let's give me some mud. 253 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.639 That's always the best. Have it rained early in this 254 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:36.600 like a late Indian summer kind of rain thing, and 255 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:39.679 then then you get like another four or six weeks 256 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:42.360 of dryness. But there was enough to like make tracks 257 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.919 possible for a few days, and they're preserved for a while, 258 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:47.039 like not like in the winter, like there's tracks and 259 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:49.440 they're washed out like two days later or something. You know. 260 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:53.519 Yeah, and the forest Duff doesn't hold stuff very well. 261 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:56.200 You can't cast in it. And yeah, I'm ready. I'm 262 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:58.000 glad falls here. You know, the trees are starting to 263 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:00.440 turn and stuff. I'm looking forward to getting out woods, 264 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:02.919 but that's got to wait a few weeks because I've 265 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:04.399 got to go to New York in a couple of 266 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:07.720 days for the first ever New York Bigfoot conference. So 267 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:09.840 I'm gone till Sunday, and then I'm home for a 268 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:12.399 couple of days, and then I'm gonna head down to 269 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:14.759 Willow Creek to help out with their museum thing a 270 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:16.799 little bit, to help help them with their display stuff. 271 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.480 And I hear some folks might be in town and 272 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:21.480 around that time, try to rally with them, or maybe 273 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:24.519 try try to rally with you. Drop by Humble State 274 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:27.360 University to check out the archiving out down there. So 275 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:29.399 a lot of stuff to do, a lot of stuff 276 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:30.679 to do here in the next couple of weeks. But 277 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:33.720 after that, towards the end of October, I actually have 278 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:37.200 some breathing room in my schedule for probably the first 279 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:39.919 time since June. So I'm looking forward to that. 280 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:41.000 Cool. 281 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.720 Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and beyond with Cliff and Bogo. 282 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:54.639 We'll be right back after these messages. But were you 283 00:12:54.720 --> 00:13:00.519 starting to notice a thinning hair? Who me, maybe a 284 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:05.559 little a little hair left or a little thinning hair both. Well, 285 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:08.480 I've got good news for you. 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Matt Pruit, 318 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:48.039 Do you have some questions for us? 319 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:48.799 We do. 320 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:50.799 We got a number of questions here, but as usual, 321 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:53.000 we'll start with the voicemails, so let me cue the 322 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:53.799 first one up for you. 323 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:58.320 Hey Cliff, Heybomo. Big fan of the show is Dan 324 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:03.279 from Mesa. First of all, with how accurate Bigfit have 325 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:07.600 been seen to throw rocks not just small pebbles, but 326 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:10.639 large bowlders as well. Do you think they can use 327 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:15.200 these rocks as tools for hunting, say an ambush and 328 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:20.360 throwing a rock at high velocity breaking legs and necks 329 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:23.440 of deer? Love the show? Thanks? 330 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:26.080 Yeah, I definitely got a lot of stories better than 331 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:28.679 throwing Rocks. Mean, there's a story of not hunting with them. 332 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:32.200 But Derek Randalls saw him throwing when he got chased 333 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:36.480 off the Olympic Peninsula about thirty something years ago. It 334 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:39.879 was they were throwing kind of like a almost like 335 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:43.120 an underhand softball pitcher, but more side arm to it, 336 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:46.840 you know, with their with their fist facing you, coming 337 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.759 like the backhand of their hand facing then flicking it 338 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:53.919 like flicking it kind of side under arm. And he 339 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:56.960 said that I was throwing it with pretty good accuracy. Personally, 340 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:58.720 I've been hit with pebbles a couple of times. I've 341 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:02.159 seen someone get hit holding a camera a recorder in 342 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:05.320 New Mexico that Hiccaria one in two thousand and four. 343 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:10.000 Right before before I saw that one, we were walking 344 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:14.279 around and Chris was holding the camcord in two times 345 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:16.720 in like five minutes. I know. It was right after 346 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:18.440 I saw the way it was right, that's right. It 347 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:20.000 was like minutes after I saw. We were out there 348 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:25.039 with the cameras and you know, infrared floodlight whatever and spotlight, 349 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:28.039 trying to do it the old Sony cam. And then 350 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:30.279 he added up to his eye walking around and twice 351 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:34.360 pebble's bank hit the you just cracked, like you hear 352 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:39.240 the pebble, you know, little rock small maybe marble size, 353 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:43.080 hit right hit the camera exactly and just you know, 354 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:45.000 you're just like WHOA Like the thing I had such 355 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:46.679 good and it was we never saw it, but it 356 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:51.480 was obviously nearby. I've heard of the people described them 357 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:54.039 throwing the same way and throwing rocks and like just 358 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:57.440 throwing something the size of a candlope, just blasting a 359 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:01.200 deer in the ribs and just just you know, knocking 360 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:03.159 it down and knocking the wind out of it, you know, 361 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:05.240 breaking its ribs and they jump out and then snap 362 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:08.119 its neck. I mean, I've I've heard him throw things. 363 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:10.279 I've seen it. I've seen rocks come flying out over 364 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:14.279 tree lines and landing behind us on Bluff Creek. But 365 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.839 then uh yeah, then there's the classic store. Was this 366 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:21.519 guy the Navy, the Navy seals all these these wing 367 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:24.839 inflatable boats are like the best inflatable They're like kind 368 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:27.000 of like a zodiac. They're like a like a high 369 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:31.640 custom made zodiacs soft soft shell boats. And it was 370 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:33.759 they test them on the rivers up here and all that, 371 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.279 like that's how I got to go look for tracks 372 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:37.960 for my buddy. Used to be the test platform back 373 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:42.119 in the late nineties early two thousands. But anyways, the 374 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.319 owner of that guy, Bill Wing, he was a kid 375 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:46.839 growing up in the sixties. His dad, he stick came 376 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:48.640 to his brother out and dropped off separate places and 377 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:51.079 they have to go for two weeks every summer and 378 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:53.960 he's cash food for him and like supplies. They had 379 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:57.359 a hike all through the Trinity Outs right where our 380 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:00.119 classic I think it was episode fifty five. I think 381 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.119 that was one of the most popular ones. That forester 382 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:05.440 that had that experience, which she was nineteen backpacking at 383 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:08.839 ran Byron the night right right right like within like 384 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:10.559 three miles there was with this guy. This happened like 385 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:13.599 thirty years earlier, but he was he got there about 386 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:16.640 there's a little airstrip up on top of this like plateau, 387 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:18.880 and his dad was going to pick him up there. 388 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:21.440 So he was sitting there waiting and was back against 389 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:23.599 He was in this old clump of old growth trees 390 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:25.240 on the edge of a on the edge of a 391 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:27.599 canyon up on top. He sitting there with his back 392 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:31.240 like five six foot you know, diameter old growth furze 393 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:33.839 all a sudden boom, the tree just explodes behind him, 394 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.960 like just the whole tree shakes. So what that? Then 395 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:41.640 another one boom just he looks over about one hundred 396 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:43.400 and eighty yards away because his dad was measuring it 397 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:45.480 from there. When they got in the plane, there was 398 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:48.480 like an eight nine ten foot he couldn't tell, he said, huge, huge, 399 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:51.559 bigfoot flinging rocks the same way he described as Derek 400 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:53.799 Randalls at one hundred and eighty yards or swinging like 401 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:57.599