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going to bring you this week's episode of Danger with Granger.

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the Clever Criminologist.

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Speaker 2: Danger with Stranger. This is Granger.

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Speaker 3: The place is my apartment on aleven thought I was

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in mes It's a woman, white faced.

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Speaker 2: And tenth.

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Speaker 4: Midnight. This waiting Granger. I can't stand it any longer.

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Speaker 3: Jo Missy should have taken a sleeping telet, got some rest.

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Speaker 4: I can't. There's always a chance of something like a

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wrong at the last minute.

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Speaker 3: I hardly think so. You know, Hello, Yes, this is

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Steve Granger. Of course he's been here since ten o'clock.

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Speaker 2: I see that's it done. Yes, I'll tell her.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, Missus milroyan your husband went to the electric

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chair exactly eleven forty five pm. The attending doctor has

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just pronounced him that. This is Steve Granger, private detective

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with a story about a man who believed he could

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get away with murder and very nearly did. In just

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a moment, I'll take you back to one of my

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most interesting casess Granger. The story began the name missus

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Elwood Milroy walked.

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Speaker 2: Into my office.

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Speaker 3: She was tall, slim and beautiful, with red hair and

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brown eyes which looked even brown because they were circled

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with worry.

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Speaker 4: Mister Granger, I've come here because there's something terrible and

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unbelieve all taking place. I don't know how to start

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telling you.

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Speaker 2: From the beginning's always a good place.

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Speaker 4: It concerns my husband.

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Speaker 2: Ellwood Milroy. Hey, he's a well known criminologist.

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Speaker 4: Right, yes, and he intends to kill somebody.

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Speaker 2: No kidding. Who's the intenent victim?

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Speaker 4: A very good friend of mine named Newman, Peter Newman, boyfriend,

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mister Granger, I might as well be frank with you.

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I've been married to Wellwood Milroy for fifteen years. I

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realized after it was too late that I should never

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have married Elward. I've known Peter for many years, so

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this isn't just a summer romance. If that's what you're thinking.

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Speaker 2: I don't handle divorce cases, Missus Milroy.

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Speaker 4: That's not what I want you to do. The divorce

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does come into it. My husband's been quite agreeable that

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one until lately he saw me lunching with Peter Newman.

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He was waiting when I arrived home. There was a scene.

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He changed his mind, said that would never be a separation.

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Speaker 3: Missus Milroy told you, I don't meddle in divorce cases.

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Speaker 4: I know that what I want you to do is

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to stop my husband from committing a murder.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you go to the police.

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Speaker 4: Do you think they believe me? I can't even tell

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whether you do.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take your case, Missus Milroy. How and when

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do I start?

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Speaker 4: My husband is delivering a lecture this evening at an

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Uptown auditorium. I'm going and I have an extra ticket.

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I thought you might like to attend. It might give

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you something to work on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it might have DoD I'll be there missus Milroy.

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Speaker 4: One thing, mister Granger, my husband is to know nothing

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about conversation.

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Speaker 3: At eight o'clock that night, I was seated near Missus

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Milroy in an auditorium on Upper Broadway. A husband wound

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up his lectured at exactly ten pm.

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Speaker 2: All fashioned methods of crime detection are no longer usable

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when one deals with a modern criminal. At times has advanced.

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The criminal has also advanced, and you were a specialists

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in the field of criminology, must anticipate these advances. I

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thank you.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll eat it, my dear.

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Speaker 2: They expected you to attend another one of my lectures.

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Surely you've heard them so often you must know them

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Speaker 4: I always attend your lectures, Albert, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Of course, so you do. Oh excuse me, mister Milroy.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to come over and tell you how much

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: In a small way. I'm in the same business you are.

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Oh really, my name's Granger, Steve Granger.

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Speaker 2: Of course a private eye, isn't that the phrase? Oh

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my dar, permit me, Steve Granger. My wife, Edith, Hello,

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how do you do? So you enjoyed my lecture? Did

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you thoroughly. Well, that's rather a strange Granger. I understand

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that you were one of the old school type.

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Speaker 3: If you mean I chase them until I catch him.

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You're right, and that's what i'd heard about you.

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Speaker 2: It's too bad that men of your type don't realize

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that progress is here. Even in the criminal field. You'll

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run into one of the new crop of criminals, Granger.

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And when you do, where will your old fashioned methods

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take you? You'll be as outmoded as a horseless carriage.

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I don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 3: I go in for the scientific stuff too, the fingerprints, ballistics,

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all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Use them because you hope to reven all made a blunder.

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Speaker 3: But in the final analysis, it's the old fashioned bloodhound

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with its nose to the ground who comes up with

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've heard all that, and you confirm. But

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I've heard about you. Oh someone I must have a

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word with. Excuse me, won't you? Nice guy?

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Speaker 3: What's the idea of little pills? He popped about three

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of them Intes's mouth and as many minutes.

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with him?

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Speaker 6: Is he sick?

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Speaker 4: No? But he's a confirmed hypochondriact. Oh well, Granger, he

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knows I've spoken to you.

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Speaker 2: I mean you've told him, of course not, but he

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sensed it. I'm sure he has take it easy enough.

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It's just nerves. No, he knows. I just don't he knows.

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Speaker 3: I hung around the auditorium for a while, then wandered

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Odd's side. When Elwood mill Run his wife left the place,

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I followed them home. Then I loitered around a few

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minutes and went back to my apartment. I was just

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putting the key in my door when I got a surprise.

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Speaker 2: One moment, please, mister.

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Speaker 3: Milroy, Well, well, I didn't know you lived in this building.

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Speaker 2: And you know it, and I came to see you. Why.

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I don't like talking in car doors. Can we go in?

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Speaker 6: Of course.

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Speaker 2: After you, mister Milroy Granger, I'm not going to beat

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around the bush with you. You followed me home tonight?

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Did I stop evading me? You were in a cream

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colored taxi. The number was six seven three. You dismissed

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the cab half a block down the street. You lighted

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around for a while, and then you left.

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Speaker 3: How do you know all, miss Milroy? You're waiting for

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me when I walked into this building.

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Speaker 2: That was simple. I slipt out the back door of

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my place, watched you for a moment, got a cab,

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and anticipated your next move. I was right. You came here,

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nice going, simple deduction. Now in Granger, why were you

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following me. I'm not at liberty to tell you what

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died my wife. I told you. I'm not at liberty

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to tell you, Oh it was my wife. Granger, I'm

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going to tell you something. He'd have suffers from a

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persecution complex. She seems to be on the impression that

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I'm going to kill her. If you know all this,

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why come up here? Because I will not be trailed around.

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I am not a criminal. I've done nothing wrong. Also,

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if my wife is your client, and I'm reasonably sure

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she is, I'll tell you something more. I intend to

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give her the divorce she wants. Have you told her all?

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I shall in good time? So, Granger, let me repeat,

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leave me alone, or I shall take steps.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and until tomorrow you can take steps. Right the

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second through that dorm is the crime expert. I suppose

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I choose not to leave right this is my home.

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You're an intruder, and in soulting intruder, I might say

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I'd be justified in throwing in your fame might be justified.

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Speaker 2: But could you do it? Mil Roy?

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Speaker 3: I've taken all I'm going to from you. You've slung

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a lot of fancy phrases around a lot of nasty cracks.

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So have you forgotten what you said at the auditorium?

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I remember everywhere I get out of here, I'll toss

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you right out.

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Speaker 2: Like to see that? Okay you will? Ah? That was

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a scientific little move taken from the book of Judo Granger.

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It wants and more.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think I.

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Speaker 2: Really I'd better leave a little notes with you explaining

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what that was. We call it a rabbit punch.

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Speaker 3: I'll continue with this interesting story in a minute. When

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I came to I felt like somebody had played the

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flight of the bumblebee on the back of my neck

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with a mallet. I staggered to my feet, slashed water

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over my skull, and weaved back into the living room.

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Milroy had gone. I went to bed. The following morning

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at the office, an early visitor made an appearance.

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Speaker 4: Mister Granger, did my husband come to see you last night?

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I was afraid of that. He's terrible. He looked at

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me this morning and said it was all fair, all set?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you what happened. It was about nine

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this morning. I tried to.

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Speaker 5: Avoid him, but he called me.

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Speaker 4: It is come in here please.

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Speaker 2: I don't't have to talk with you.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather not listen if it means another scene.

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Speaker 2: I think you'll hear what I have to say or

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it will be unpleasant consequences, said Dan.

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Speaker 4: Very well, what is it?

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Speaker 2: Why did you employ a private detectives follow me? I

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don't have to lie, please? You hired Steve Grainger?

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Speaker 4: Why because of the way you've been acting? Ill word?

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Speaker 2: How else can a husband act? Who is about to

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be discarded? All world?

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Speaker 4: I don't want to go over it again. You're grossly

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jealous of You don't want to stay married to me,

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and you also don't want me to marry anybody else.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to marry Peter Newman. He's a fool. I

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refuse to let you make it stupid Blundy.

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Speaker 4: It may seem a blunder to you, but it'll seem

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like paradise for me.

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Speaker 2: Ask you once more to reconsider. I know that you've

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consulted an attorney. You'll try to assume me if I

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don't go ahead with our original agreement.

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Speaker 4: That is correct.

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Speaker 2: You've forced me to be plain. I'll get the divorce,

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not you, and I'll get it when, where and if

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I want it. If you start in the action against me,

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you'll regret it for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 4: There is the gist of what was said, mister Granger.

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Speaker 2: What can I do, missus Milroy. I'm not a lawyer.

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I'm a private investigator.

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Speaker 3: And the more I hear about this fight between you

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and your husband, the less I don't want any part

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of it.

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Speaker 4: You mean you don't want to go ahead and work

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for me?

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Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense. You think your husband is going

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to kill your friend? Have you any proof of that

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at all? Any evidence besides your imagination.

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Speaker 4: Mister Granger. When my husband called on you, he intimated

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that I was unbalanced, didn't he I wouldn't say that

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he did something of the kind I know he did.

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That's why you're acting the way you are.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, missus Milroy, but I don't think there's anything

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to this idea You've got very well.

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Speaker 4: I leave, but when you remember this conversation, you'll be sorry.

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Speaker 3: Edith Milroy swept out the door, gave me a curtain

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nod and disappeared down the hall. It was pleasant to

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forget her get into something that had less of an

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odor about it. I got engrossed in some other work.

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At five that afternoon, the phone rang Steve Granger's thinking,

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what is.

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Speaker 2: It now, Missus Milroy? And no, why anybody look for

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you up here? No?

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Speaker 3: Why where are you, Missus Milroy? Why you think your

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husband said the kelly, Missus Milroy, maybe you had better

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come up here right now. I'll take it on the

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police headquarters. You can hand your ideas to hamas Missus Milroy,

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listen to reason. Missus Milroy, where have you been all afternoon?

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Were you at Peter Newman's apartment? Missus Milroy?

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Speaker 2: Dame is a little lot of rocker.

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Speaker 3: Well, I ask you, wouldn't you think the same? Even so,

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there was a kind of funny, nagging feeling at the

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back of my head. It might have been just the

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echo of the rabbit punch delivered my friend Milroy. And

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again it might be the feeling that Missus Milroy had

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been right all along.

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Speaker 2: And just a moment, I'll bring you the of the case.

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Speaker 3: After Missus Milroy's mysterious phone call, I was curious enough

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to go downstairs and pick up a late act. In

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an addition, I was still carrying it when the door

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of cal Hendrick's apartment shut behind me. The newspaperman wasn't surprised.

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Speaker 2: To see me.

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Speaker 3: Well, Steve, what's the good word today? Why do you

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know about Elwood Milroy? He's a criminologist, one of the

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best in the business.

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Speaker 2: What else do you know about him personally?

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Speaker 7: I mean not much as an accurate disposition, not the

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type who fundles children.

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Speaker 2: Hey, why the interest in mister Milroy?

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Speaker 7: You think you're taking a short course in scientific crime

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to take my mind?

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Speaker 5: So you are?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 6: Jay?

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Speaker 2: Can't you know Lieutenant Rank and Caroll?

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Speaker 7: I know him, but I can't say it's a place

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sure at the comedy newsboy and Grangeer, I want a

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word with you.

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Speaker 5: When you went at your office, I figured you'd be here.

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Speaker 2: And what's up? Lieutenant?

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Speaker 7: Seeing the papers, we'd a bet a man named Peter

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and Newman getting shat earlier today.

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Speaker 3: I might have noticed that of the light him.

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Speaker 2: Why did Missus Milroy retain you grangers?

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Speaker 7: Missus Milroy, you have information that Missus Melroy came to you.

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Speaker 3: Why why does anyone come to a private investigator. Come on,

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come on, stop stolen Granger. Why did you employ you?

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Was it because she was afraid of her husband?

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Speaker 7: Did she have an idea that her husband was going

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to kill Newman? Maybe you know where missus Milroy is now? No,

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you see, Granger, she's involved in this killing up to

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her ears. The gun that did the killing belonged to

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her husband.

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Speaker 5: It was by the door.

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Speaker 2: How do you tie in missus Milroy?

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Speaker 7: An informant told us that she was at Peter Newman's

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apartment about the time the killing would place, and speaking

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of fingerprints, they were a woman's. We'd like to have

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a little chat with missus Melroy. They were hers. Knowing

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that you cooperate to the fullest extent with the police department,

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we wouldn't like to entertain a notion that you might

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be hiding in suspect.

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Speaker 2: Dear boy, I wouldn't dream of it.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad to hear you say that, Granger.

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Speaker 4: Mister Granger, I've been looking all over for you. I

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went to your office and at the man next door

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tome you might be here.

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Speaker 3: I am so what I've got to talk.

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Speaker 4: To you privately. The police have identified the gun that.

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Speaker 6: Killed Peter Grange.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, do you mind if I into this charming little group.

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I'd like to meet this lady.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad to oblige, Missus Milroy. Let me present

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Lieutenant Rankin of homicide.

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Speaker 4: You're a police officer.

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Speaker 7: I am Missus Melroy, and you and I are going

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downtown's little chat.

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Speaker 4: But I haven't done anything. I'm not guilty.

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Speaker 2: I Stranger, help me please.

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Speaker 7: If he doesn't, he'll be abstracting justice. And if he

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does that, he like your hire us out too.

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Speaker 5: Come on, Missus Melroy.

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Speaker 2: Interesting little scenes.

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Speaker 7: See, Yeah, wasn't it going to help Missus Milroy out?

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Speaker 2: Why should I because you're the gallahead type kids. Yeah,

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I guess I am at that.

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Speaker 3: I got on the phone and tried to trace Ellwood Milroy,

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but I was out of luck. Then I went down

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to the police headquarters and had a few words with

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Lieutenant Rankin. As a result, I was granted an interview

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with Missus Milroy in her cell.

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Speaker 4: Mister Granger, please help me. I'm not guilly of murder.

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I'm not guilly of anything.

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Speaker 3: Missus Milroy was seeing going into the building where Peter

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and Human lived, but It doesn't mean I killed him,

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That's only something. Why were your fingerprints on that murder weapon?

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Speaker 4: It must have been my husband's gun. He headed out

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a few days ago. They'd been follows in the neighborhood,

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he said, and he wanted me to be able to

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use it if necessary. He showed me how to handle it. Well,

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don't you see Elbert killed Peter and made it look

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like I did it?

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Speaker 2: Well, Granger, I don't know, Jake. It looks un good

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for her, Granger. She was seen going in on Newman's

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place about the time he was killed. And what about

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her husband?

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Speaker 5: Elwert Melroy was working like a troacher.

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Speaker 2: Of course, when'd you see it before you came down?

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Has he got an alibi?

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Speaker 5: And unbreakable one?

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Speaker 2: Granger? He did his club for lunch, twenty members saw him.

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Speaker 5: He went to an alley movie.

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Speaker 7: The Yesha remembers him sounds on us two perfect. There's

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no almost about it, Granger.

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Speaker 3: Jake, how about letting me examine the apartment where Peter

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Newman loves killed with pleasure?

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Speaker 2: Pal, I love watching you squirm. As a matter of fact,

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I'd go along with you. It's sort of the guided tour.

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Oh thanks, this is his apartment, Granger, how come it

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doesn't see you? I forgot to tell you her husband

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is up here working the Great Milroy himself.

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Speaker 3: Euh, okay, come on, give me a breakdown on what

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you found.

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Speaker 2: The newman was lying over there alongside the davenport.

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Speaker 5: The gun was here by the.

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Speaker 3: Door, so he didn't shoot himself and throw the gun away.

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Speaker 2: Hello, lieutenant, and it's mister Granger, isn't it. Yeah, you

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two know each other quite well, don't we, Grangeer, I've

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got a good no shit, I got that out, Granger.

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Speaker 5: What's the matter with you?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Granger is a trifle annoyed. We played a little game

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last night. He lost all right there, So again, if

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you'll excuse me, I'll get back to my work. Wise guy,

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what happened, Well, he came up to my place. I

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tried to throw him out. You what, he's one of

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the country's foremost exponents of judo.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry, I found it out. Let's go the something here. Okay, Hey,

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do they have a dorman in this building?

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Speaker 2: They do. He's got a little office just inside the door.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead it yeah, yeah, I want to ask you

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some questions about Peter Newman.

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Speaker 7: I don't know about Matt's all right, Smith, you can

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answer them.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see you there, Lieutenant. What is it there?

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Were you on Judy?

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Speaker 3: When Peter Newman was shot? I was now how many

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people came to see him?

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Speaker 2: He had only one visitor, that Missus Melroy.

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Speaker 3: She came to see him.

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Speaker 2: Nobody else. Huh no, sir.

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Speaker 3: How about deliveries of one kind another, like laundry or groceries.

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Speaker 2: Well, now that you mentioned that there was one delivery

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he made a messenger he was had a box of candy? Messenger?

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Speaker 5: What do he look like?

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Speaker 2: Rather old? I'd says he was very gray, had kind.

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Speaker 5: Of a stoop.

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Speaker 2: Was this his usual delivery? Never saw him before?

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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, rack, and let's go back to Newman's apartment.

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I want to find that box of candy. Be a

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Newman's apartment yielded the box of candy one piece was gone.

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Gave me an idea one that took me back downtown

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the police headquarters and another quick visit with Missus Edith Milroy.

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Speaker 2: Mister Granger, Missus.

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Speaker 3: Milroy, how well did you know Peter Newman's.

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Speaker 4: Habits bad habits? Mister Granger?

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Speaker 2: Well, for instance, if it you had gone, or if

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he had candy.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that Peter was very fond of candy.

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Speaker 3: Well, even the type of person to have a box

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of candy sent to his apartment rather than go out.

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Speaker 2: And pick it up in person.

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Speaker 4: That's a strange question. I wouldn't know.

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Speaker 2: One more thing.

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Speaker 3: When you were in Newman's apartment, did you notice a

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freshly opened box of candy?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: And what's the box of candy got to do with?

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Speaker 7: This?

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Speaker 3: Probably spells the difference between life and death for you,

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missus Milroy. I went back to Rankin's office and found

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him working like a beaver with a leak in his dam.

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The request I made was barely out of the ordinary.

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Speaker 7: A granger, we've gone through you things. What makes you

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think you'll find something?

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Speaker 5: Loll twunt.

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Speaker 3: This is a routine request. I want to look over

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his clothes, all.

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Speaker 7: Right, all right, but you're wasting my time, which is

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paid for with the taxpayer's money.

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Speaker 3: Which is my money because I'm a taxpayer. So come on, servant,

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show me Peter Newman. Stop Rykan took me down to

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the morgue, where I poughed over Peter Newman's belongings. It

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was the usual wallet, the usual identification cards and whatnot.

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I went over his suit with great care, even pinching

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the buttons. When I got to the cops on his trousers,

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I found a little something, a little something that sent

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me on an errand that took me first to a druggist.

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Speaker 7: Why yes, sir, I can't identify this pill. It's a

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prescription for one of my customers.

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Speaker 2: You are limited to tell me who this customer is.

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I'm not sure if I can divulge that information or not.

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Speaker 3: If it's a matter of police business. Could you in

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that event? I'm sure I could. The druggist gave me

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the first solid clue, Then I added for certain movie.

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The cashier at the theater, bright eyed and sharp, gave

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me the second. When I'm finished with her, I got

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ranking to meet me at a certain address.

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Speaker 5: So this is where the Melroy's live.

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Speaker 2: Right, you're not trying to tell me that.

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Speaker 5: Elwood Melroy killed Peter Newman.

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Speaker 2: Wait and find out. Well, how do you do?

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Speaker 5: Gentlemen?

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Speaker 2: Come in? Thanks to what do I owe the pleasure

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of this visit?

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Speaker 3: Ellwood Milroy, and you shot and killed Peter Newman, then

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framed your wife.

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Speaker 2: Please grange, you don't be silly. Excuse me a second.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm getting a good night forgett.

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Speaker 3: I know what he's looking for, Jake his pills. What's

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a madam Milroy?

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Speaker 2: Nervous? Get a couple of your pills to study it down?

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Their prescription. My doctor told me to take them.

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Speaker 3: I know your druggist told me about the druggist. That's

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why I made your prist mistake, Milroy. That in one

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other place, the theater, the cashier saw you go in,

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but nobody so Lee.

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Speaker 2: Obviously there was a crowd leading with me the picture

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was over. You left before the end of the picture. Really,

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And how is that? I can recite the.

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Speaker 3: Movie's entire plot because you went on the same theater

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the day before. The cashier remembers that visit.

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Speaker 2: But that wasn't your biggest mistake, Milroy, isn't it. When

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did you see Peter Newman last two weeks ago? Oh?

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Speaker 3: No, it was much more recently today. In fact, you

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walked into his apartment disguised as a messenger. And I

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know you were there, mister crime, come judo expert, because

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you keep flipping those pills of yours and I found

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one of those pills in the dead man's trouser cuff.

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He must have been a bit nervous and dropped one.

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Funny how often little thing will fall into a guy's

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trouser cuff.

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Speaker 2: How does that prove I saw him today? It happened

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two weeks ago. Bad luck, Milroy.

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Speaker 3: Humuldn have had his suit clean the day before. Yet, Milroy,

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you laughed at me because I'm the type who runs around.

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Speaker 2: With his nose to the ground.

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Speaker 3: But if I hadn't, I would never have found a

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clue that busted your perfect crime. A little send you

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to the chair, you, you dirty soap.

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Speaker 2: I'll kill you like look up, he'll get away, old friends.

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That's the story.

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Speaker 3: I'll be back to wrap up the case in just

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a minute. Elwood Milroy went to hospital with the bullets

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through the arm. With evidence piling up against him. He

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was accused of killing Peter Newman. Ulimately he was convicted.

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I better call on my friend Lieutenant Jake Rank at

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his office.

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Speaker 7: Well, Granger, you might be interested. Elwert Milroy was sending

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for the chair this morning.

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Speaker 3: So much for his two perfect alibi, right, Jake, and

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for old fashion.

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Speaker 2: The detective methods.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you see, missus Milroy saw.

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Speaker 2: Just an hour ago. You saw me too, with a

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neat check complete with numbers.

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Speaker 5: You know you were lucky fine in that pill.

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Speaker 2: How'd you ever dream it up?

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Speaker 3: Because I'm no great hand at criminology, I just run

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around with my nose to the ground.

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Speaker 5: Would you do that in here?

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Speaker 2: Hardly? This joint's got sawdust on the floor.

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Speaker 7: In that case, you won't mind if I pick up

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that five dollar bill down there where?

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, that's mine. I mean many to have that

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hole in my pocket sewn up?

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Speaker 5: Too bad?

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Speaker 2: Gums you I had my nose to the ground that time.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's one for the books. The flat foot was

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his own blood ound.

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Speaker 2: Steve Granger.

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Speaker 3: Again, You've just heard one of the most interesting cases

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in my files, and I'll have another one for you,

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so be around next time.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I actually enjoyed this one. It had me

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guessing a little bad well. I did have a lot

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of suspicions towards the husband. I did also find myself

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wondering whether the wife might have been playing Granger somehow

524
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the way things were set up. Now, of course, this

525
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is a title that probably should have quotes around it

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because while the criminologists might be well respected and might

527
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have a lot of theoretical knowledge of crime, as a murderer,

528
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he committed a crime that could only really be called sloppy.

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The theater might have been an instance of him disregarding

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the importance of like work in the movie beforehand. Was

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not a bad idea, and certainly there are plenty of

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stories of police usualing knowing or not knowing the details

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of a movie as an indication of whether somebody actually

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went to say it, although you don't hear that sort

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of thing in modern crime dramas. And the bigger tell

536
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was the evidence he left at the scene of the crime,

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and his idea that it might have just been sitting

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in the pants leg for two weeks is kind of

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absurd and really weak sauce, but it shows ultimately a

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failure of imagination to imagine, Okay, if I were a criminal,

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what would be my distinguishing characteristics? What evidence might I

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tend to leave on the basis of my habits and patterns?

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And how can I avoid doing that? Because so many

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of the scientific methods that particularly those that were coming

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into place in the mid nineteen fifties, came down to

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the sort of things that might be left at the

547
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scene of the crime unintentionally, But instead of identifying that

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critically and looking at himself, he just kind of concludes, Ooh,

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I'm so clever, so I'm going to get away with this,

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And Granger is able to defeat or villain through nothing

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more than basic detective work and taking advantage of the

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villain's utter arrogance. Now, one thing that was said when

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Granger's client got arrested that made me kind of do

554
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a double take was this whole question of it was

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a woman's fingerprints, because it kind of struck me that

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fingerprints really had never heard of them being able to

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prove sex, and they can't prove it definitively. But doing

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some research, there are tendencies of male and female fingerprints.

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The big one is ridge density. Men tend to have

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lower ridge density and there's more space in general between

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our ridges. Women tend to have higher rege density, as

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women tend to have more ridges, but they tend to

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be a bit finer. This is a tendency. It's not

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an absolute rule. But if you did find fingerprints that

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match the typical file for a certain gender, you would

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expect the perpetrator to be of that gender, but you

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know it might be someone with an atypical print. In

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this case, they could really only say for certain it

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was a woman's print because they were able to match it.

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The other thing, I was glad that it turned out

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our criminologist was also a judo champion.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because when I first heard that scene, I was

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embarrassed for Granger. It's like, you're a tough guy, detective

575
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and you get taken down by a hypochondriac academic. But

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our guy did have a lot of facet to his character.

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None made him a person who could truly pull off

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the perfect murder. Well, now we turn to listener comments

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and feedback, and we have a comment from Harrison regarding

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the episode Out of Jail for Christmas. Uh, And he writes,

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He's been a friend for years, but I had no

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idea he had a family some detective. I think, yeah,

583
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that's a fair point, Harrison. I just tended to think

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that with Granger it was just a case of him

585
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being one of those people who uses the term friend

586
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rather loosely, because there are a lot of people who

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use friend when the more appropriate word would be acquaintance,

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which that's kind of how I took it, But thanks

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so much. Appreciate the comment, Harrison. Well, now it's time

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to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, and I

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want to thank Peter, Patreon supporter since April twenty twenty,

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currently supporting the podcast at the shawmus level of four

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dollars or more per month. Thank you so much for

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your support, Peter, and that we'll do it for today.

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make YouTube channels grow. We will be back next Monday

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with another episode of Danger with Granger, but join us

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back here tomorrow for the big story where.

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Speaker 8: You're very kind to see me.

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Speaker 2: Mister Miller.

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Speaker 6: You read the stories I wrote on your son, didn't

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you missus?

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Speaker 5: Mantell, Yes, I did.

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Speaker 9: You know just how I feel. I'm only sorry you

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didn't get twenty five years.

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Speaker 8: I'm not a proud woman, mister Miller. If to get

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to the truth, I have to scrub floors or take

611
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a little insult a mother doesn't mind that, mister Miller.

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Speaker 6: Oh, look, what do you got to say.

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Speaker 8: Joey didn't do it anymore than I did.

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Speaker 6: The jury thought otherwise.

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Speaker 8: Joey wasn't there, He wasn't near the store that night.

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Speaker 6: You said that in court. Well, what do you want anyhow?

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Speaker 9: Man gets a trial, a fair trial, a jury of decent,

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honest people find him guilty.

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Speaker 6: What more do you want, mister Miller.

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Speaker 8: I'm a reader of your paper fifteen years. I like

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the way you write. No, that's not flattery, it's the truth.

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You remember the Sullivan boy about eight years ago, mister Miller.

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He was found gilly by a jury of honest people, too,

624
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,440
but you wrote about it, and you helped prove that

625
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he was innocent. The Ginsburg girl that was about four years.

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Speaker 6: Look, look, I studied your son's case.

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Speaker 9: The only thing that makes me saw was that they

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didn't catch the other crook, and your son only got

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fifteen years.

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Speaker 6: Those people were in their sixties.

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Speaker 8: Missus Mantel, I'm sixty seven, mister Miller, sixty seven. A woman,

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don't lie. My boy was home in the garage fixing

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the car.

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Speaker 6: Why was he fixing a car in the evening?

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Speaker 8: Because when a boy wants to make a new start,

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he don't care if it's afternoon or evening.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime,

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send your comments to Box thirteen at Greatdetectives dot net,

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