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<v Speaker 1>Oh better that are.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm. Trigger Warner. This podcast may include explicit content

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<v Speaker 2>that will take you out of your comfort zone and

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<v Speaker 2>make you question reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Listener's discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome back to this second episode of Into

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<v Speaker 2>the culti Verse. I have, of course my co hosts

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<v Speaker 2>with me, Colby. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Fantastic? Super excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be too excited now, don't get away from yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>This one is actually gonna be a cool episode because

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<v Speaker 2>we gave a little teaser in the last one. You said,

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Fauci with a smile, and I said, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the og cults going all the way back to the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of time. So we'll see you volunteered as a

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<v Speaker 2>tribute to go first.

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I figured since you went first last week,

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<v Speaker 3>it's my turn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So did you look into the Solar Temple

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<v Speaker 2>anymore after that episode? I did not, Okay, I did,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just wanted to include for the listeners who

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<v Speaker 2>may have went and looked up some stuff on the

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<v Speaker 2>Solar Temple. I did find that Joseph Demombro and Luke

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<v Speaker 2>Geri and their families they unlived themselves in their home

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<v Speaker 2>in Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>Canada, and Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was France, Switzerland and Canada and they

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<v Speaker 2>had timed explosives that went off.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Canada just loves helping people kill themselves these days.

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<v Speaker 2>So is that where doctor Kavorkian was from.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, anyways, I just wanted to add that as a

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<v Speaker 2>cool tidbit because I didn't mention it in the last episode.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, well I also forgot about Chuck Diedrich taking LSD.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Chuck Diedrich from Michael Sennon of lat Week.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't say his government name. His name is Big Daddy's.

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<v Speaker 3>Big Daddy took LSD and it inspired a whole new

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<v Speaker 3>twist on the game, and they called it the Trip,

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<v Speaker 3>and he would like, make these people go three days

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<v Speaker 3>without sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that in the sixties, Yeah, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was near the beginning, so definitely somewhere in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just seems like that was the thing to

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<v Speaker 2>do back then.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he also was I don't know if this was

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<v Speaker 3>MK ultra stuff, but it was Sidney Cohen overseeing these

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<v Speaker 3>LSD experiences and he did one and then he wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to recreate that without sharing the drugs. So anyway, that

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<v Speaker 3>was a little thing I forgot last week.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you think the series is going good so far?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel more educated already?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you do. I've been meaning to expand my cold knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, okay, well all right, give me some tidbits

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<v Speaker 2>on who and what you're covering today.

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<v Speaker 3>My cult this week is Happy Science.

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<v Speaker 2>And Happy Science Cult.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I had heard this one just briefly in passing.

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<v Speaker 3>I had never really looked into it. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's all sorts of podcasts out there that focus primarily

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<v Speaker 3>on cults, and they tend to have it in there.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll just say from the beginning, little spoiler alert,

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<v Speaker 3>this one does not end in death and destruction.

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<v Speaker 2>But ah, come on.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some weird shit along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>No no bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the guy does die, but does he deserve it?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I wouldn't say so.

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<v Speaker 2>But so it's sad and there's no body count.

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<v Speaker 3>Never said it sad, I said it was happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well technically all right, So where does our story begin?

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen fifty six, July seventh, at seven am sharp,

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<v Speaker 3>which this guy his name is.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is the time listed?

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<v Speaker 3>Because this guy puts a lot of emphasis on it

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<v Speaker 3>and his name the boy that came into the world

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<v Speaker 3>on July seventh of nineteen fifty six. His name is

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<v Speaker 3>Rioho Okawa Okawa, and I don't think that was his

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<v Speaker 3>birth name. I think he changed it somewhere along the line.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, he just kind of was an ordinary

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<v Speaker 3>kid born in Japan, and when you look into his life,

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<v Speaker 3>the stories are different if they come from him, which

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<v Speaker 3>he had numerous autobiographies and lectures alluding to this. He

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<v Speaker 3>was a fucking genius. He was loved by everyone. His

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<v Speaker 3>parents were so happy and proud of him, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you look into like other people's accounts, and he was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like insecure, and he really yearned for his

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<v Speaker 3>father's approval. He had an older brother who many called

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<v Speaker 3>a prodigy, and he was like a star athlete, and

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<v Speaker 3>poor Riyojo was always in his brother's shadow, so much

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<v Speaker 3>so that when he does talk about his childhood and

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<v Speaker 3>in his autobiographies, he claims to be an only child.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was born July seventh. Yeah, he sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>a cancer emotional little.

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<v Speaker 3>Dipshits no offense. Mom, that's actually my mom's birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it really? Would you say she's some bosts?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Not? Really, she's kind of like me. She doesn't get

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<v Speaker 3>excited too easily.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where you get it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I'm so emotional. He claims that he was

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<v Speaker 3>the top of his class in grade school, which I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even know they kept track of that kind of shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe Japan's different.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably.

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<v Speaker 3>He also said that his second grade teacher told him

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<v Speaker 3>that he was as smart as a twenty year old man,

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<v Speaker 3>and he claimed to have an IQ of two hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Would any of this verified?

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<v Speaker 3>It was all verified to be bullshit, Okay. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>there's two areas where you can look into his early life,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's his version against the truth. The truth was

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<v Speaker 3>he was not exceptional in school. In fact, he kind

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<v Speaker 3>of struggled. He also did not have an IQ of

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred. I mean two hundreds, Like you know, whether

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<v Speaker 3>you think Einstein's real or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Einstein and Stephen Hawking fucked, and somehow that baby, oh

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<v Speaker 2>really like that baby fuck Tesla's baby, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>and then that baby fucked Elon's baby. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>baby's fuck baby fucking. It's the product of baby fucking.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. I know you're in the program

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<v Speaker 3>to kill and all that, but that doesn't come to

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<v Speaker 3>this story. So he was always kind of just in

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<v Speaker 3>the shadows and not really popular. But also, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say he was bullied by any means, but

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<v Speaker 3>he was a pudgy kid, and he was told that

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<v Speaker 3>he looked like a suma wrestler because he was. He

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't that tall, but he was very rot and he

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<v Speaker 3>even tried suma wrestling at some point and failed at it,

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<v Speaker 3>and that one's not easy to find. I did hear

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<v Speaker 3>some people talking about it, and apparently he wanted approval

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<v Speaker 3>so much that he kind of tried to live into

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<v Speaker 3>the sumo thing. But we'll flash forward here a few years.

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<v Speaker 3>He gets into high school. Of course, at some point

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<v Speaker 3>he's not an exceptional student. To contradict what he would say.

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<v Speaker 3>He got into college, but he had a gap year

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<v Speaker 3>because he tried to get into Toko University and he

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<v Speaker 3>felled the entrance exam, and I think he was shooting

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<v Speaker 3>for some top tier major, but he took a year

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<v Speaker 3>off and then he slid into the liberal arts program

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<v Speaker 3>of Tokyo University. So he did get in, and that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Where they put all the fat sumo kids with that

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<v Speaker 2>are barely average. They put them in the liberal Arts program,

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<v Speaker 2>making clay pops.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you can't get into a liberal arts college,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't you're not even trying.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying, is like, I know he's got

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<v Speaker 2>this whole heart on for his own life, but it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds to me like he was just a average Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>well chubby Buddha.

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<v Speaker 3>I would disagree, Well, you're getting ahead of me here.

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<v Speaker 2>What.

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<v Speaker 3>So he took a year off, got into the lib

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<v Speaker 3>Arts program, and during his second year of school, he

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<v Speaker 3>had what he called his first stage in quote awakening

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<v Speaker 3>of wisdom end.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote making Clay pots.

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<v Speaker 3>No. So he was kind of the kid who walked

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<v Speaker 3>around reading poetry and writing love letters to girls never

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<v Speaker 3>received well. He started to model himself after some great philosophers,

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<v Speaker 3>and Manuel Kant in particular, and he had this schedule

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<v Speaker 3>where he would walk around writing poetry at three pm,

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<v Speaker 3>and then by five pm he was in a bath

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<v Speaker 3>house where he would sit for an hour and reflect

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<v Speaker 3>on his day, and then he would go home buy

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<v Speaker 3>a cheap meal and two books at a used bookstore.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said he claimed that he read thousands of

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<v Speaker 3>books in amount of time that isn't possible. So once

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<v Speaker 3>again he's embellishing.

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<v Speaker 2>So he liked bath houses, like Jeffrey Dahmer.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess at bath houses sometimes you just go

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<v Speaker 3>to actually do the thing that they're built for. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. There was no talk. In fact, he was

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<v Speaker 3>a little homophobic, which you know, you know my theory

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<v Speaker 3>about that. During his third year he changes his major

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<v Speaker 3>politics and starts studying in law, and he ends up

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<v Speaker 3>failing the judicial exam.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a judicial exam?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming it's like their version of passing the bar.

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<v Speaker 2>So the can you just change your major from clay

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<v Speaker 2>pots to law?

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<v Speaker 3>You can do whatever you want? Really school, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, I would just think if you were doing finger painting,

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't then suddenly.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, we were making fun of this guy

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<v Speaker 3>early on, But I would say he wasn't an idiot.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't a good student, but he's also very preoccupied

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<v Speaker 3>by image and this grander purpose that he always thought

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<v Speaker 3>he had for himself. He wasn't dumb. In fact, his

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<v Speaker 3>dad really liked the philosophers, and they kind of had

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<v Speaker 3>a religious household. He said that his parents loved both

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<v Speaker 3>God and Buddha.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever that means tangent for a second. Sure, do you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I've interrupted you too much already?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you ever feel like the people who say stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that about themselves are like the worst losers on earth,

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<v Speaker 2>the ones who are like I knew from an early

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<v Speaker 2>age I was gonna be somebody, and I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be famous, and I was gonna do this, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna do that. And it's like, dude, you're a

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<v Speaker 2>forty year old crackhead living with like ten roommates in

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<v Speaker 2>your house, you have five listeners to your podcast, and

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<v Speaker 2>you just knew you were gonna be Like why pat

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<v Speaker 2>yourself on the back in this way? Like I've never understood.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never wanted to be friends with people who talk

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<v Speaker 2>about themselves like that. I've never identified with people who

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<v Speaker 2>talk about themselves like that. It's just like, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a level of like psychopathy and like delusion. You

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<v Speaker 2>knew from an early age you were gonna be somebody

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<v Speaker 2>them and make them a psychopath. But that's how that's

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<v Speaker 2>how the psychopaths think of themselves as like they have

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<v Speaker 2>no remorse. They just think they should be able to

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<v Speaker 3>And well now you're like moving into a whole other category.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Selves is like above everyone, like they're superior.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean thinking that you have a grand purpose

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<v Speaker 3>Those aren't the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, you just rode a slippery slope. I would

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<v Speaker 3>say that some people have like superiority complexes and some

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever listen to a John Wayne Gacy interview?

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<v Speaker 2>That motherfucker well literally thought he was like a god.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of them just start cults like this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but you know what I'm saying though, right? It

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<v Speaker 2>where are you getting this idea? Like you're gonna I

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think there's people that thought that about Jesus?

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<v Speaker 2>Did he say like because he said.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm literally the son of man, I'm the son of God? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but I have a doing miracles and shit.

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<v Speaker 2>He like backed up his talk. He was like walking

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<v Speaker 2>on water and shit. I think I'd believe somebody if

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<v Speaker 2>they could at least back it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean we think that let's just say that

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<v Speaker 3>he did, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't that make you get on board? It would me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, oh shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you could just read a book that's really old

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<v Speaker 3>where people say that he did that stuff and then

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<v Speaker 3>you could believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're splitting hairs here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying I'm taking your argument and saying I

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<v Speaker 3>never saw Jesus walk on water.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but you remember that other cult that we covered

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<v Speaker 2>that that blind half blind guy? Yeah, Okahara what was

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<v Speaker 3>Well he comes into this story too.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but anyways, he had people convinced that he could

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there weren't people with smartphones around when Jesus was

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<v Speaker 3>saying this shit. And I'm not like throwing shade on Christianity.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying there's a lot of people throughout the

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<v Speaker 3>ages who felt like they were destined for something. I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't say that makes them psychopaths myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just ran into a few people recently. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you'd say that spout ridiculous shit off like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, bro, can you slow your role? You li?

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<v Speaker 2>You literally have ten listeners to your podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know who you're talking about, but I

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, But what I'm saying is I've never identified with

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<v Speaker 2>that mindset of like, look at me, everybody should like

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<v Speaker 2>worship me, and everybody should congratulate me and look at

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<v Speaker 2>how amazing I am. If anything, it makes me uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 2>when people compliment me, because for me, it's always just

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<v Speaker 2>been like I just want people to learn stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>it's less about me and more about the information. But

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<v Speaker 2>these people, it's the exact opposite. It's like their podcast

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<v Speaker 2>isn't even very good, but it's like, buy my T shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>You get what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're gonna name names?

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<v Speaker 2>No, okay, I'm classy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well back to Reojo.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he have T shirts?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? I'm sure at some point. I mean I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>at some point they had also merch with a beaker.

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<v Speaker 3>So after his fourth year, or after his third year

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<v Speaker 3>and failing the judicial exam, he switches his focus to metaphysics,

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<v Speaker 3>and he couldn't get into graduate school because of his grades.

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<v Speaker 3>into the finance world. So he goes from liberal arts

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<v Speaker 3>to political slash law to finance and he gets a job.

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<v Speaker 3>And while he's working there, he has what he calls

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<v Speaker 3>and this is in nineteen eighty one, he has what

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<v Speaker 3>he calls Buddha enlightenment, and he contacts a divine spirit

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<v Speaker 3>and the spirit was Niko Shonen, who was like a

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<v Speaker 3>well known Buddhist monk. And he feels the urge to

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<v Speaker 3>grab a pencil and he starts channeling, and his hand

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<v Speaker 3>moves and he writes good news, good news, good news,

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<v Speaker 3>over and over. And when I was looking into this,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought of Futurama.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, is there a scene like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really watch Futurama like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Professor, he always says good news everyone. Oh, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>like every time he gathers them anywhere. That's where my

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<v Speaker 3>mind went. It also went to psychic driving, where that's

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<v Speaker 3>what I thought. He's having like a sirhan sirhand moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he read Catcher in the Rye?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this was nineteen eighty one, so he could have.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And he communicated for months, but with this spirit Nico

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<v Speaker 3>just saying good names. No, I mean they had full

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<v Speaker 3>on conversations, I guess. And he was told by Nico

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<v Speaker 3>that he was to save the world by preaching a

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<v Speaker 3>certain doctrine.

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<v Speaker 2>And you don't think this crosses over into psychopathy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you went from people wanting attention to chopping

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<v Speaker 3>up people in.

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<v Speaker 2>Their bathtub or people think in their Buddha.

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<v Speaker 3>Aren't we all Buddha? Though? Anyway, Nico informed Riojo that

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<v Speaker 3>his life purpose was to save the world by teaching

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<v Speaker 3>love others, nurture others, forgive others. All right, so he's

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<v Speaker 3>dusting off some classics here, but apparently he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the one to change the world. In June, he

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<v Speaker 3>was told by not just Nico, but of a list

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<v Speaker 3>of old spiritual leaders that he was also channeling, that

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<v Speaker 3>he should start a new religion, and he did. A

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<v Speaker 3>month later his own father joined this religion, so he finally,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, gets the approval of his dad. Congrats, and

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<v Speaker 3>over the next few months he channels confucious Jesus on

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<v Speaker 3>a popsicle stick, Christ shut up, Moses, Moses, and Noster Damas.

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<v Speaker 2>My goodness, what a star studed cast of characters.

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<v Speaker 3>And so how this is sick? Oh, I just doubted

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<v Speaker 3>that his father would tape these sessions and he would

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<v Speaker 3>talk to his son, who was no longer his son.

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<v Speaker 3>He was channeling these old figures that I just listed,

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<v Speaker 3>and they actually started publishing this shit. Now, throughout the years,

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<v Speaker 3>he was said by some accounts, I've seen the number

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<v Speaker 3>as high as twenty five hundred books that he published

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<v Speaker 3>throughout his life. I've seen the numbers low as five hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>but a lot of these were said to have been

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<v Speaker 3>just transcribed and published. I guess seances were he's channeling

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<v Speaker 3>these people and his dad's asking him questions. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about that for a second. If you break

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<v Speaker 3>the timeline down from where he started publishing until he

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<v Speaker 3>stopped his it was like an average of fifty something

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<v Speaker 3>books a year, and there was one year at the

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<v Speaker 3>peak of this where he did one hundred in a year,

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<v Speaker 3>and that would be publishing two books a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Like pamphlets.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, sure. I mean that's like some seances. Yeah, just

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<v Speaker 3>his religious musings or his channeling sessions.

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<v Speaker 2>And who's reading it just his dad, well, his followers.

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<v Speaker 2>How many followers he's got.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're going to get into that.

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<v Speaker 2>What year are we talking right now?

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<v Speaker 3>So it started in nineteen eighty five, and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>originally called Happy Science. It was like the Institute of

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<v Speaker 3>Happiness Research or some shit, but he ends up changing

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<v Speaker 3>it to Happy Science when it takes off. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty six, he gave his first sermon to eighty followers.

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<v Speaker 3>By March of eighty seven, he was speaking to four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred people. At the end of nineteen eighty nine, he

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<v Speaker 3>announced that he was, in fact, the reincarnation of Buddha.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the Dhali Lama has to say

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<v Speaker 3>about this, because that's apparently what he's supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 3>By nineteen ninety, he was speaking to packed houses of

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<v Speaker 3>ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this verifiable?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Ten thousand?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this part's verifiable. He claimed at certain points that

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<v Speaker 3>he had like over a million and you can't you

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<v Speaker 3>can't find the PAPERWCK for that.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's the reincarnation of Buddha. But he lies, like

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<v Speaker 2>literally all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this goes on. He claims he was the reincarnation

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<v Speaker 3>of many including like an ink in God, and he

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<v Speaker 3>said from seven thousand years ago. Now if you believe

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<v Speaker 3>in history, which you know, I think is kind of spotty,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's another episode. The incings were like six hundred

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, not seven thousand, so he kind of gets

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<v Speaker 3>his numbers wrong. He was also the reincarnation of the

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<v Speaker 3>spiritual leaders of Blumeria and.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, I've Atlantis. I've listened to podcast episodes

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<v Speaker 2>with people just like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well he also Canny Channel P Diddy. I'm sure he could.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to get into some of the people he changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Just can't with this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So he in nineteen ninety one, let's well, let's talk

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit about the beliefs of this, because I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really get into all that. I mean, I did

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<v Speaker 3>track some of it, but he claimed this is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like scientology. In fact, when you look into this guy,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people call him the el Ron Hubbard

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<v Speaker 3>of Japan.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, he acts like he's like Avatar, the

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<v Speaker 2>Last Airbender.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, oh, we'll get into Avatar. L Ron Hubbard was

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<v Speaker 3>also a novelist before he became, you know, the grand

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<v Speaker 3>master of scientology. But he'd published thousands of books in

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<v Speaker 3>his day. Would I think there was probably a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more too what Elron was put nowt but in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety. Oh yeah, let's get into his beliefs. So

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<v Speaker 3>he believed that there was a race on the planet

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<v Speaker 3>Venus and they were told that there was a cataclysm coming,

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<v Speaker 3>and the souls escaped and somehow made their way to Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this sounds a lot like scientology.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds a lot like the Law of One if

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever read that.

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<v Speaker 3>I never read it, I know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was also inspired by entities that call themselves raw.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So if you want to get into more of

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<v Speaker 3>the beliefs of the cult or religion of Happy Science,

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<v Speaker 3>it's out there. They have very active websites to this day.

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<v Speaker 3>You can go find all this stuff. But we won't

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<v Speaker 3>focus too much on that. It's just very science fiction

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<v Speaker 3>e slash scientology. There's even some Mormon stuff in there,

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<v Speaker 3>like he believed there was nine dimensions of the afterlife.

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<v Speaker 2>And Dante's Inferno type shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, not necessarily. I think it's more like what the

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<v Speaker 3>Mormons believed like the celestial Kingdom, celestial and all that shit,

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<v Speaker 3>but you had to do certain things. And he called

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<v Speaker 3>this to get to the ninth dimension, and this existence,

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<v Speaker 3>this realm on Earth, is soul training. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly a lot of this stuff I can see

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<v Speaker 3>being possible, but he gets so weird with it, as

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00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:06.000
<v Speaker 3>they always do.

429
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I just want you to know this is much

430
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:16.559
<v Speaker 2>more interesting to me than the Cinnamon Group. Okay, I

431
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know why, but it's just hitting me as like

432
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>really interesting.

433
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it gets weirder just even.

434
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Though you said there's no body count, I'm already in tree.

435
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Well there is no body count, but there's some brushes

436
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:33.799
<v Speaker 3>with death. Okay. So when this thing first started in

437
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.799
<v Speaker 3>the mid eighties, he was a little selective on who

438
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:40.839
<v Speaker 3>could join. He had already written ten books about his teachings,

439
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:43.920
<v Speaker 3>and he would hand these books out to the people

440
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 3>who wanted to join, and he would say, I want

441
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:50.519
<v Speaker 3>you to read these and then write an essay on

442
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:53.759
<v Speaker 3>what you think. So I mean, this is just him

443
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:56.359
<v Speaker 3>sticking his finger up his ass and smelling it like

444
00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:59.559
<v Speaker 3>who's gonna love what I say? And so he would

445
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.039
<v Speaker 3>let in people that he knew were really into this

446
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 3>enough to read the shit and then write an essay

447
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.000
<v Speaker 3>on it. And he was getting, like I said, he

448
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:10.599
<v Speaker 3>was getting some following. But by the time it's into

449
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:13.839
<v Speaker 3>the nineties, he decides, if you read our newsletter, then

450
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:14.559
<v Speaker 3>that's enough for me.

451
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:16.839
<v Speaker 2>He hasletter.

452
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, he had a newsletter, and if you were

453
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 3>subscribed to it, then you were considered a member of

454
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Happy Science. So you see, like he's speaking to tens

455
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:31.079
<v Speaker 3>of thousands, and he's wanting this thing to grow. He's

456
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:34.920
<v Speaker 3>told by Nico that he's going to save the world

457
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:35.519
<v Speaker 3>with this shit.

458
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's told by the hot air coming out of

459
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>his ass.

460
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:44.359
<v Speaker 3>So in the March of nineteen ninety one, Happy Science

461
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 3>attains legal status as a religion. And it's a little

462
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.799
<v Speaker 3>bit of a different process in Japan, but from what

463
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.720
<v Speaker 3>I understand, a lot of it's similar. Like he was

464
00:28:55.920 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 3>getting tax exemptations and all that kind of stuff, tax exemptions.

465
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:06.400
<v Speaker 3>So at a festival in nineteen ninety four, he announces

466
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:10.599
<v Speaker 3>to fifty thousand people that he is el Canare.

467
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:12.960
<v Speaker 2>What's this?

468
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 3>It's Spanish and it means he who sings. But maybe

469
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 3>there's some translation here that I don't understand, but that

470
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 3>is Spanish. Elkinari baby.

471
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 2>This is what happens when you have mental illness, you

472
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>just start singing stuff.

473
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:34.839
<v Speaker 3>So Elkentari is the grand spirit of the Terrestrial Group. Basically,

474
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 3>he is not just Buddha, but he's all these other things,

475
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.039
<v Speaker 3>and if you translate it into our culture, he's just

476
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:49.240
<v Speaker 3>basically saying he is the embodiment of God from what

477
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I can tell. So, yeah, you mentioned Shoko Asahara, the

478
00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:01.279
<v Speaker 3>cult leader of the Buckers that had VX gas.

479
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.119
<v Speaker 2>That was what when did we cover that in the

480
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:06.599
<v Speaker 2>nineties episode? Right? Yeah?

481
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so they come back here and this this wasn't

482
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:16.799
<v Speaker 3>mentioned in the research we did. But yeah, so apparently

483
00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 3>in post World War two Japan it was just ripe

484
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:24.880
<v Speaker 3>with all these new movements to start religions. I mean,

485
00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 3>they were a culture.

486
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 2>So what was that guy's name, Shoko.

487
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:33.359
<v Speaker 3>Shoko, Shoko Asahara.

488
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:35.960
<v Speaker 2>So that was going on around the same time, right.

489
00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:38.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, this was in the nineties and so in the

490
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:43.519
<v Speaker 3>early nineties Riojo, I don't know if he just mentioned

491
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.640
<v Speaker 3>this in passing or he went out of his way

492
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.240
<v Speaker 3>to say that that guy was no good and he

493
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.839
<v Speaker 3>was as soon as he did that this rivalry started,

494
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Speaker 3>and it was basically it seemed like a rap battle

495
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:00.839
<v Speaker 3>like it wasn't you know, they weren't on down, they

496
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:05.119
<v Speaker 3>were just talking shit to each other. But nineteen in

497
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:13.319
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety four, uh Shoko adds Riojo to his hit

498
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:18.279
<v Speaker 3>list and they actually tried to put VX gas in

499
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:23.160
<v Speaker 3>his AC unit of his car. And just as we

500
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 3>established when we talked about these guys before, they weren't

501
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:30.160
<v Speaker 3>the most efficient, they fucked up. I heard Janet deplorable

502
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Janet shout out to talk about how this shit's not

503
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.640
<v Speaker 3>airborne and that's the reason that this whole thing was

504
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.200
<v Speaker 3>basically just like a scare tactic that the stakehold Yeah

505
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.160
<v Speaker 3>so v specifically yeah VX gas the reason.

506
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 2>So she brought up the stakeholds.

507
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:50.119
<v Speaker 3>She talked about this on I think it was cult

508
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:54.519
<v Speaker 3>the conspiracy actually when she was not her her little

509
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:58.200
<v Speaker 3>show she does heard show, No, she was just that

510
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:00.960
<v Speaker 3>came up somehow and she was saying it was a

511
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.079
<v Speaker 3>lot like the anthrax scare, like this stuff isn't airborne.

512
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.039
<v Speaker 3>You actually have to touch it. Many people to this

513
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 3>day think that it's airborne.

514
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.519
<v Speaker 2>So isn't it odd? How like multiple things that we

515
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 2>cover in our episodes and even other people like it's

516
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>all like connected in some weird spiderweb.

517
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's crazy. No, it all connects when you

518
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 3>look into enough of this.

519
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Yet thing about the Happy Science cult when you.

520
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Picked it, no, I didn't.

521
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:36.720
<v Speaker 2>So it's just like such an odd coincidence, if you will,

522
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>if you believe in that.

523
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we had this major rivalry in Japan, like whose

524
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 3>cult is the fucking coolest? Well, fuck you, I'm gonna

525
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 3>take you out. And that failed. And then he claimed

526
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:56.119
<v Speaker 3>that he foresaw this VX attack in the subway stations

527
00:32:56.240 --> 00:33:01.000
<v Speaker 3>and or the seren gas and that he he warned

528
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:03.440
<v Speaker 3>the authorities about it, but they wouldn't listen to him,

529
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 3>and it was just another way that he was grandstanding.

530
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.359
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, if you were going.

531
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:13.119
<v Speaker 2>To pick a cult to belong to, are you picking

532
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Rocho or Shoko?

533
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:16.279
<v Speaker 3>Rocho?

534
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:23.119
<v Speaker 2>What's his name? Rioho or Shoko? Who's your cult leader?

535
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:25.759
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm obviously going with Happy Science.

536
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.559
<v Speaker 2>Really I'm getting I'll be a member of the Doom

537
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.759
<v Speaker 2>Mistake Cult. Okay, I want to be a member of

538
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 2>the Doom Mistake Cult because they at least killed some people.

539
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, there was some doomsday stuff in the teachings of

540
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:42.759
<v Speaker 3>Rio Hoo. So he said, well, let's just call him

541
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:46.079
<v Speaker 3>Elkantar from now on, because we're far enough along in

542
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:48.160
<v Speaker 3>the story that that is what he goes by now.

543
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Speaker 3>So Elkintari. He had very Japanese nationalistic views. He hated China,

544
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:03.799
<v Speaker 3>he hated Korea with Korea, and I mean, dude, racism.

545
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I have never seen such strong racism as Asians against

546
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 3>other Asians. I mean Asian they hate each other. And

547
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:15.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I'm like generalizing just with the

548
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.440
<v Speaker 3>people I've met, but I have a cousin who's half Korean,

549
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 3>and if he's ever called Filipino or Japanese, he fucking

550
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:24.320
<v Speaker 3>flips out.

551
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:27.360
<v Speaker 2>That's so crazy because it's like, how could you eat

552
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 2>general soap chicken and not love the Chinese.

553
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, if we're going off of that, I.

554
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 2>Don't like them, and I love sushi.

555
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Well that's Japanese.

556
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm saying, how could you pick between them?

557
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:41.079
<v Speaker 3>They're both rock I would go with Japanese.

558
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Food really sweet and sour chicken.

559
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fuck all that, Just give me sushi soup. Come on,

560
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:54.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, all Asian cultures have their various forms of soup. Yeah,

561
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 3>and saying I'm going Japanese.

562
00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:59.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm going both. I don't want to juice.

563
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:05.199
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, he was very nationalistic. He was told by

564
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.519
<v Speaker 3>some of the people he channeled, which we'll get into there,

565
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:11.920
<v Speaker 3>that China was a huge problem, the United States were

566
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:16.039
<v Speaker 3>a huge problem. I mean, being Japanese and thinking America sucks,

567
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 3>I can totally understand that they fake nuked them twice.

568
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean they firebombed the fuck out of them. And

569
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 3>he was told that he had to bring down America, Russia,

570
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:33.599
<v Speaker 3>and China. So Japan was actually, in his view, supposed

571
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 3>to be like the superpower of the world, which they

572
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:42.960
<v Speaker 3>did try that at one point. Yes they do. We're

573
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.440
<v Speaker 3>just going to fast forward because this like goes through

574
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.280
<v Speaker 3>the nineties. In the nineties, not a lot of exciting

575
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 3>stuff happened aside from his little rivalry. But you get

576
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 3>into the late two thousands, two thousand and eight, and

577
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 3>he shifts into like political views again, and he did

578
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.480
<v Speaker 3>sides to start his own party, and so in two

579
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:08.840
<v Speaker 3>thousand and nine he officially launches the Happiness Realization Party

580
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:12.960
<v Speaker 3>and he puts his wife in charge. His first wife,

581
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:20.800
<v Speaker 3>who was, as he claimed, the reincarnation of Aphrodite, of course. Well, yeah,

582
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:25.199
<v Speaker 3>if you're the reincarnation of Buddha and Lumar and Jesus

583
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:29.000
<v Speaker 3>or lou whoever the Lumerian guy was, you got it.

584
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:33.039
<v Speaker 3>You can't just like get the fucking reincarnation of some

585
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:37.559
<v Speaker 3>fucking barmaid from Ireland. You have to you gotta go

586
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:38.400
<v Speaker 3>for Aphrodite.

587
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Hell.

588
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 3>So this is in two thousand and nine. He puts

589
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:47.760
<v Speaker 3>her in charge of the party and they actually didn't

590
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.880
<v Speaker 3>do bad. They had some pretty close elections where they

591
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:56.440
<v Speaker 3>almost got some seats. They never did, but they ended

592
00:36:56.519 --> 00:37:00.719
<v Speaker 3>up kind of like crossing streams with some other parties

593
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:03.320
<v Speaker 3>and they did get some huge attention.

594
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Was he like the Bernie Sanders.

595
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:11.559
<v Speaker 3>No, he's the opposite. He's nationalistic. He's pretty pro fucking war.

596
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 3>From what I could tell. He did say that they

597
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:19.480
<v Speaker 3>needed the nuke China, China and Korea, And to me,

598
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 3>it's like, if you believe nukes are real, you're gonna

599
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.960
<v Speaker 3>just start chucking nukes at your fucking neighbors.

600
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he's so peaceful in happiness and love. Remember

601
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 2>such a This is what you got to admit that

602
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:40.119
<v Speaker 2>these people have a level of psychopathy. He's He literally

603
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:44.239
<v Speaker 2>started a religion, but behind what were the principles? Love,

604
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>happiness and nurture each other forget, but he want yeah,

605
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:51.360
<v Speaker 2>and he wants to kill all the Chinese and Korean

606
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:55.719
<v Speaker 2>people just because. And he also hates America, so fuck

607
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:56.280
<v Speaker 2>them too.

608
00:37:56.719 --> 00:38:00.599
<v Speaker 3>That's funny because he got into an exchange when he

609
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.000
<v Speaker 3>was working for that stock trading corporation and he got

610
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.599
<v Speaker 3>to live in New York for a while. And this

611
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:11.159
<v Speaker 3>is funny to me. This just shows his self image.

612
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:16.079
<v Speaker 3>He met a student who was Taiwanese and she was

613
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:20.000
<v Speaker 3>pretty high advanced in her classes and also spoke really

614
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 3>good English, and he decided to drop out of the

615
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:27.639
<v Speaker 3>program because of that because him and she intimidated him.

616
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:31.159
<v Speaker 2>So this is what I'm talking about. They have like

617
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:37.000
<v Speaker 2>a God complex and they're like insecure little third people.

618
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:47.079
<v Speaker 3>Okay, third people. In twenty eleven, his wife, she started

619
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 3>to see that this shit was getting out of hand.

620
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how she made it up to this point,

621
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:57.400
<v Speaker 3>but she and their oldest son, who were staunch members

622
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 3>of the movement and the religion and the cold they left,

623
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:10.400
<v Speaker 3>and his son had a YouTube channel started saying, my

624
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 3>dad's making all of this up. He doesn't believe in

625
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:19.119
<v Speaker 3>any of it. Y'all being played right, And I think

626
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.800
<v Speaker 3>he said it just like that, y'all bleed plage y'all

627
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 3>and his riojo El Cantare he disavowed both his well,

628
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 3>his ex wife is understandable, but yeah, he wrote off

629
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:40.280
<v Speaker 3>his son over this and it kinda There's not a

630
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:46.000
<v Speaker 3>lot now, but will fast forward to COVID. I actually

631
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.639
<v Speaker 3>do remember hearing this. This is probably the first time

632
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:51.320
<v Speaker 3>I ever heard of the Happy Science cult. So throughout

633
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:55.519
<v Speaker 3>the nineties they spread and their first like out of

634
00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:00.960
<v Speaker 3>country base was in Honolulu, Hawaii. Not surprising there, Japanese

635
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 3>people love Hawaii, and he ended up. I think they

636
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:13.320
<v Speaker 3>had shit in New York and overseas. I think in

637
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:17.599
<v Speaker 3>the UK they had some branches. Yeah, and they were

638
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:21.119
<v Speaker 3>businesses too, and they did have religious exemption in their

639
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.760
<v Speaker 3>home country. I don't know if that carried weight wherever

640
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:27.840
<v Speaker 3>else they went, but I mean they weren't small. He

641
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:33.159
<v Speaker 3>said they had twelve million members. When his wife left

642
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:37.119
<v Speaker 3>him and his son was talking shit. She also said, like, no,

643
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:41.800
<v Speaker 3>it's thirty thousand. There's thirty thousand members. I mean that's

644
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 3>still pretty big, but no, twelve mili. So when COVID happened,

645
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:54.039
<v Speaker 3>they got attention because they protested the lockdowns and said that,

646
00:40:55.079 --> 00:41:00.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, you can't stop worship, and I think New

647
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:04.000
<v Speaker 3>York they were protesting Japan and over in the UK

648
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:08.599
<v Speaker 3>the New York Times started exposing this cult for what

649
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.599
<v Speaker 3>it was. And you know, I don't you can I

650
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:16.320
<v Speaker 3>trust the New York Times. Operation Mockingbird's main arm in

651
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:19.559
<v Speaker 3>this country. But they did some good work exposing this guy.

652
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:27.360
<v Speaker 3>And this is the best part. They offered spiritual vaccines

653
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:32.079
<v Speaker 3>and anywhere from a sliding rate of one hundred to

654
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.760
<v Speaker 3>four hundred dollars, you would pay for this spiritual vaccine

655
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 3>and they would just pray for you, and that was

656
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:40.920
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be enough to protect you.

657
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 2>So you didn't know any of this when you said,

658
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Fauci with a smile, last time, did you?

659
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, I remember hearing about this, but it didn't click

660
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.519
<v Speaker 3>until I was researching it that they did get a

661
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:55.920
<v Speaker 3>lot of press during COVID.

662
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:58.519
<v Speaker 2>That is so freaking hilarious.

663
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:00.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just said, Anthony, out you with a smile,

664
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:02.519
<v Speaker 3>because I am the science.

665
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 4>Yes, you criticize me, You criticize science, and he you know,

666
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:14.199
<v Speaker 4>he's happy smiling. He's like, I have almost decimated all

667
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 4>the homosexuals.

668
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:18.000
<v Speaker 2>So did they give you So if you paid four

669
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks for a spiritual vax, would they give you

670
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:22.639
<v Speaker 2>a card with a smiley on it?

671
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Or he's probably a free donut in a Bloomberg or

672
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:30.480
<v Speaker 3>not Bloomberg. Who was the cheeseburger guy in New York?

673
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:36.440
<v Speaker 2>No, it was they gave out cheeseburgers.

674
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 3>You don't remember. He's like, he's eating a cheeseburger during

675
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:43.559
<v Speaker 3>the press conference. He's like, you're telling me you can

676
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:45.719
<v Speaker 3>get a cheeseburger. It's ten am. Is it too easy

677
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:48.719
<v Speaker 3>for you could get this? Am? I? Is there a

678
00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:50.719
<v Speaker 3>fry option? You don't remember that video?

679
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know what. I probably saw it because

680
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:58.599
<v Speaker 2>I was I was watching INFO Wars all during COVID,

681
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.360
<v Speaker 2>so I'm sure he had a peace on that. But

682
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.320
<v Speaker 2>do you I mean, I remember the dance brigades and

683
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:08.880
<v Speaker 2>that I'm vaxed, I'm waxed, and whatever the fuck else

684
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 2>they were saying. But yeah, I mean, it was mayhem,

685
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:16.079
<v Speaker 2>it was madness. It was riding in the streets.

686
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:19.199
<v Speaker 3>Happy science was right in the middle of all that.

687
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:23.280
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. I thought you were gonna say, like, I

688
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.119
<v Speaker 2>was so sure you were going to say, like they

689
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 2>disbanded in the nineties and that guy just went into oblivion, and.

690
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:33.920
<v Speaker 3>No, there's still this is still going on to this day.

691
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:38.639
<v Speaker 3>So he died two years ago at sixty six, which

692
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 3>sucks because he kind of said when two years.

693
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Ago three twenty twenty three.

694
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 3>March second of twenty twenty three, he had some kind

695
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:49.880
<v Speaker 3>of heart.

696
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Thing, I think, and he was still in charge. Yeah,

697
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 2>two years ago. Yeah, so this is like a recent cult.

698
00:43:56.280 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 3>I think it's still going Who's leading them? I don't know, but.

699
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Somebody took up the torch and became Buddha and Jesus

700
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:05.039
<v Speaker 2>and Mohammed.

701
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.159
<v Speaker 3>Well maybe someone's channeling him.

702
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh my, my my, would you say Confucius.

703
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:20.199
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, nos Domises, the Lumerian god, the Incan guy.

704
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the fucking list goes on, it on. But

705
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:23.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get to like some of the people

706
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:28.159
<v Speaker 3>he's channeled, and I expect you to have some pushback here.

707
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:33.440
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, so some of their tactics where he purchased

708
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:38.599
<v Speaker 3>an animation company and there's like I don't remember but

709
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:42.280
<v Speaker 3>ZIB Studios. No, it's not that high up, but I

710
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.599
<v Speaker 3>guess the animation is great, but the story suck, and

711
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:50.000
<v Speaker 3>it's just like prepackaged propaganda to jam happy science.

712
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:54.119
<v Speaker 2>They said Gibili Studios would have had a whole entire No.

713
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:59.360
<v Speaker 3>They had movies and anime ship made for for their message.

714
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:03.840
<v Speaker 3>I didn't watch any of them. I didn't think that

715
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.320
<v Speaker 3>was necessary. I'm kind of curious, though, I might go,

716
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 3>like check some of it out. I just want to

717
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.559
<v Speaker 3>see what it is, because you know, I mean, if

718
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:18.199
<v Speaker 3>it's good, there might be some HINTI some tentacle.

719
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 2>That stuff, that octopus depositor in the harems of twelve

720
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:25.360
<v Speaker 2>year old girl.

721
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:30.840
<v Speaker 3>I think you're confusing me for your second husbands. So

722
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:34.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to tell you some of the people he channeled,

723
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:41.280
<v Speaker 3>and some of them you've already heard. Others Jesus, Moses,

724
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:54.360
<v Speaker 3>Mohammed Shakespeare, Allah Allah himself, Isaac Newton m mao mao,

725
00:45:54.800 --> 00:46:01.599
<v Speaker 3>mm hmm. So he channeled the enemy, Winston Churchill, Random,

726
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Walt Disney, Stephen Hacking, Oh God, John Lennon. I'm gonna

727
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:12.960
<v Speaker 3>skip this one to save it for last, because there's

728
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:18.840
<v Speaker 3>gonna be questions. Socrates, Barack Obama.

729
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 2>He's still alive.

730
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Good good catch. Margaret Thatcher, Angela Merkel, Vladimir Putin also

731
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 3>still alive. He also has several books about Trump where

732
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:38.280
<v Speaker 3>he's channeled Trump. So what the way he gets around

733
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:44.320
<v Speaker 3>channeling people that are still alive, He's channeling their spirit guides. Honey,

734
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 3>this now, this dude loved Donald.

735
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Trump, and did he cross dress.

736
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:55.079
<v Speaker 3>Trump's fucking stance on China? You know, kind of kind

737
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 3>of checks out there. But yeah, where he's channeling. So

738
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:03.239
<v Speaker 3>I mentioned Margaret Thatcher, he had a fucking like, I

739
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:05.360
<v Speaker 3>don't know what I would call it, but it was

740
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 3>like a sold out venue where he channeled Margaret Thatcher

741
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.599
<v Speaker 3>less than two weeks after she died, and she was like,

742
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:14.960
<v Speaker 3>I see that. The only way out of this is

743
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:16.360
<v Speaker 3>you got to nuke China.

744
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:17.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what he said.

745
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:22.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm paraphrasing. Freddy Mercury was the one that

746
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:27.920
<v Speaker 3>he that I saved for last really and when he

747
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.880
<v Speaker 3>channeled Freddy Mercury, he was like, Yeah, I did a

748
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.000
<v Speaker 3>lot of good in the world, but I'm only in

749
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 3>the eighth dimension because I'm gay.

750
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, stop it.

751
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Like I spread so much happiness and you know, I

752
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:44.360
<v Speaker 3>nurtured everybody.

753
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.920
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just believe in this stuff.

754
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:50.719
<v Speaker 3>Anywhere from thirtyzery to twelve million people depending on who

755
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 3>you talk to. Gosh, well, so this is funny, he said,

756
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:58.440
<v Speaker 3>he he was. This just reminds me of South Park

757
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:04.559
<v Speaker 3>so much to trying to channel Michael Jackson and his son.

758
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.199
<v Speaker 3>This was before his son left, so this was probably

759
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 3>after Michael Jackson died. I think that was nine, and

760
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:13.519
<v Speaker 3>his son and him had a falling out in twenty eleven,

761
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't you.

762
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:15.760
<v Speaker 2>His dad's a laughing stock.

763
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:18.920
<v Speaker 3>So he was trying to channel Michael Jackson or he

764
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:24.039
<v Speaker 3>was practicing, and he did they and he said that

765
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:28.079
<v Speaker 3>it sucked so bad that he was afraid he was

766
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:30.559
<v Speaker 3>going to make his son do it. And he was like,

767
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:32.280
<v Speaker 3>back then, I was so into it that I would

768
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:34.519
<v Speaker 3>have done it for him. But yeah, oh my, he's

769
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:36.920
<v Speaker 3>blaming that his dad knew this was all bullshit.

770
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.519
<v Speaker 2>So this is literally like the episode of Dead Celebrities.

771
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:44.519
<v Speaker 3>That's what I was saying South Part. Yeah, when Ike

772
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:45.880
<v Speaker 3>channels Michael Jackson.

773
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:48.480
<v Speaker 2>No, it's like the only person on that list you

774
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 2>didn't mention is Billy Mays here with the happy Science

775
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:58.039
<v Speaker 2>cult hate Chinese people and by this sham wow.

776
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.000
<v Speaker 3>So yeah. I mean, that's it in a nutshell, that's

777
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:04.719
<v Speaker 3>gist of happy science. I would I would suggest, you know,

778
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:08.320
<v Speaker 3>we could do hours and hours and talk about all

779
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:11.079
<v Speaker 3>the stuff I saw, but I tried to package it

780
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:12.559
<v Speaker 3>up neatly for Mike.

781
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I loved that presentation.

782
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:20.199
<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you, I was like, I was, actually, Chaneline.

783
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.280
<v Speaker 2>How many happy faces are you giving it?

784
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Out of ten faces? I'd give it a seven, seven

785
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.199
<v Speaker 3>happy faces, happy scientific faces.

786
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:37.280
<v Speaker 2>What would have pushed it to ten for you bodies?

787
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just it's interesting. It definitely peaked

788
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 3>my curiosity. The more I found out, the more I

789
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:50.159
<v Speaker 3>wanted to know. But just as a whole, I mean,

790
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:53.159
<v Speaker 3>you got it. I don't know. As a cult, you

791
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:55.079
<v Speaker 3>got to check all the boxes.

792
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:57.280
<v Speaker 2>To be a ten dead bodies.

793
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:03.840
<v Speaker 3>For me, Cia infiltration, a jolly West sticking his finger

794
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:05.360
<v Speaker 3>up someone's ass at some point.

795
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:09.119
<v Speaker 2>At some point, I really liked that one.

796
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Don't thank you?

797
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I can get you to ten happy faces on mine.

798
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:20.440
<v Speaker 2>My cult is called the Sad Vagina Cult.

799
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:22.800
<v Speaker 3>And a member.

800
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Are you?

801
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:29.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm a sad Vagina?

802
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Would you join a cult that was called that? Would you?

803
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:36.079
<v Speaker 3>I already said I'm a member.

804
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not called the Sad Vagina Club. But anyways,

805
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:47.199
<v Speaker 2>this cult, actually my favorite, has a body count in

806
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:55.199
<v Speaker 2>the millions. Would you believe that your favorite hi body count? Okay,

807
00:50:55.519 --> 00:51:00.199
<v Speaker 2>I just feel like you can't be an infamous cult

808
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.239
<v Speaker 2>without a high body count. But this one, oddly enough,

809
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.519
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, isn't talked about even though they've got

810
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:12.000
<v Speaker 2>a body count in the millions. So it's called the

811
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:16.599
<v Speaker 2>Thuggie cult. And they existed all the way back to

812
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:18.960
<v Speaker 2>seventeen sixty.

813
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:22.360
<v Speaker 3>You said, the beginning of time.

814
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I'm going to get into that. So we're

815
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:34.760
<v Speaker 2>traveling to Bangalore, India circa the thirteenth century, where most

816
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:39.159
<v Speaker 2>of the debauchery happened. So before I get into this,

817
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:41.000
<v Speaker 2>you have never heard of the Thugie.

818
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:44.719
<v Speaker 3>I have, but I couldn't tell you where it came up.

819
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:46.800
<v Speaker 3>But what's wheird?

820
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Didn't come from, right, that's just like you've heard about

821
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:55.519
<v Speaker 2>it in Passing. Yeah, so in the thirteenth century, this

822
00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:59.239
<v Speaker 2>is when they say he was the devil incarnate. His

823
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:05.320
<v Speaker 2>name was Burne. But yes, he became the leader of

824
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the Thuggie And according to the Guinness Book of Records, Burram,

825
00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:15.840
<v Speaker 2>the Indian thug holds the record as the most prolific

826
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.719
<v Speaker 2>murderer who has ever lived. Isn't that crazy?

827
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:22.760
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was Hitler, You would think.

828
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Hitler even has numbers as high, does he?

829
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:29.199
<v Speaker 3>No? Sam Tripley has a good joke that if you

830
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:32.280
<v Speaker 3>took up all the modern day genociders and put him

831
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:36.119
<v Speaker 3>on a basketball team, Hitler would not even come off

832
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:39.079
<v Speaker 3>the bench as sixth man. He would be like seven.

833
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:42.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm picking Burrom.

834
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:46.239
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that he was the most prolific murderer.

835
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, so he saw his murders as an act

836
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:56.199
<v Speaker 2>of divine devotion, and he led the Thuggie who were

837
00:52:56.440 --> 00:53:01.119
<v Speaker 2>responsible for the strangulation of millions of hell plus victims,

838
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:07.679
<v Speaker 2>and it's referred to as history's deadliest cult. It's also

839
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.639
<v Speaker 2>on an episode of Ancient Aliens.

840
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:12.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm all in now.

841
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:17.400
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's just it's odd to me, how

842
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I watched they did like a five second

843
00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:25.000
<v Speaker 2>thing on it on Ancient Aliens, but it's like what

844
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:27.360
<v Speaker 2>they got out of this and what I got out

845
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:29.760
<v Speaker 2>of this is? I mean? And you can tell me

846
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.280
<v Speaker 2>at the end who he thinks, right, But can I.

847
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Tell you now? I'm not a fan of Ancient Aliens.

848
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah know me either.

849
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:41.039
<v Speaker 3>When it first started, I would get really stoned and

850
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:46.239
<v Speaker 3>watch it. Even then I was like, hmmm mm hmm.

851
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Now Stephen Greer, Dimmi Levato.

852
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:56.800
<v Speaker 2>They're on Ancient Aliens or some shit like a spinoff.

853
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Well it's it's all Ancient aliens sake. And the one

854
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:08.320
<v Speaker 3>guys have that ranch in North Carolina, the blood SOEs.

855
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:11.239
<v Speaker 3>They're doing History Channel shit now too.

856
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, why don't somebody hire me? Is it because

857
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:20.679
<v Speaker 2>I have a foul mouth and I don't believe in aliens?

858
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:22.480
<v Speaker 3>They're damons?

859
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Well you know what, This is a side tangent, but

860
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:28.360
<v Speaker 2>that one show we was watching called Crimes of the

861
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Paranormal on Hulu, there is an alien episode that really

862
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:34.079
<v Speaker 2>got me stumped.

863
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:37.039
<v Speaker 3>Free plug. Yeah, suckers.

864
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:41.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't usually jump on board the extraterrestrial train,

865
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:45.400
<v Speaker 2>but that one episode, I'm still spinning. I don't know

866
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:49.400
<v Speaker 2>what happened. You have to watch it. It's pretty cray. But so,

867
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:56.920
<v Speaker 2>there was a thuggie his name was Golum Hassen who

868
00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:59.960
<v Speaker 2>was caught in the early eighteen hundreds, and he stayed

869
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:06.320
<v Speaker 2>that his accomplices believed that the thugs had existed all

870
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:09.360
<v Speaker 2>the way back to the time of Alexander the Great?

871
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Is that the beginning of time?

872
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:15.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I say the beginning of time, but

873
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's pretty fucking far back as far

874
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:19.440
<v Speaker 2>as colts go, don't you.

875
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I.

876
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Probably should have. I'm not talking like Garden of Eden shit,

877
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:31.320
<v Speaker 2>but I'm like Alexander the Great, that's pretty far the

878
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:36.960
<v Speaker 2>fuck back. So you may be wondering, with a colt

879
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.559
<v Speaker 2>that's run on for that long, with a body count

880
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:43.880
<v Speaker 2>in the millions, where are the victims? They're buried in

881
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:49.360
<v Speaker 2>mass graves all over India and it's like Holocaust two

882
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:51.880
<v Speaker 2>point zero, like just a mass burial.

883
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.840
<v Speaker 3>So who was being strangled? Just anybody?

884
00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Well I'm gonna get into that here in a second,

885
00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:02.039
<v Speaker 2>but I guess you just anywhere you go in India,

886
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:06.079
<v Speaker 2>you could just be walking over huge mass graves of strangled,

887
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:10.760
<v Speaker 2>thuggy victims and that's just like a normal It's like,

888
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:13.039
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, there's another mask grave over there.

889
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:16.079
<v Speaker 3>We are on stolen lands.

890
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:21.519
<v Speaker 2>But so, why in the motherfuck were they doing this? Right?

891
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Right?

892
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:28.880
<v Speaker 2>So, according to colonial sources, Dougie's believed that they played

893
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.119
<v Speaker 2>a positive role in saving human lives.

894
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:33.880
<v Speaker 3>What's a colonial source?

895
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:40.800
<v Speaker 2>That's what the article said. Okay, what I just somebody

896
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:45.119
<v Speaker 2>asked a motherfucker and he was colonial, and he said

897
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:48.559
<v Speaker 2>that they believed they were playing a positive role in

898
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:49.880
<v Speaker 2>saving human lives.

899
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:53.079
<v Speaker 3>I always believe in the colonial source, yes, above all

900
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:54.199
<v Speaker 3>other sources.

901
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:58.559
<v Speaker 2>And he said they thought that without the thugs sacred service,

902
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Goddess Calli would destroy all of mankind. And a direct

903
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:12.599
<v Speaker 2>quote from Brahm is God isn't all for good and evil,

904
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:19.880
<v Speaker 2>and God has appointed blood for Collie's food, So feed

905
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:21.920
<v Speaker 2>thou upon blood.

906
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.880
<v Speaker 3>So why were they strangling? Shouldn't they be the chains

907
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:29.559
<v Speaker 3>on motherfuckers up? So if she wants blood?

908
00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:34.000
<v Speaker 2>They said that these were blood sacrifices to the god Cali.

909
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:37.280
<v Speaker 2>And if you've ever seen depictions of her, she's got

910
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:40.039
<v Speaker 2>like fangs and like a long tongue that comes out,

911
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:42.880
<v Speaker 2>like a very serpentine look a tongue that comes out.

912
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:48.880
<v Speaker 2>And to preserve every drop of blood for her, they strangled.

913
00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh, so they didn't want to spill them.

914
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.159
<v Speaker 2>They didn't want to spit waste anything.

915
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'd like to dig some of these motherfuckers up

916
00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:58.559
<v Speaker 3>and see if they've been drained yet you said she

917
00:57:58.639 --> 00:57:59.639
<v Speaker 3>had vampire teeth.

918
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, she's got vampire teeth, and she's got like a long,

919
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:03.800
<v Speaker 2>serpentine like tongue.

920
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:08.719
<v Speaker 3>And so would anybody do is a sacrifice to Kelly?

921
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Or did they?

922
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:12.960
<v Speaker 2>They had a little bit of a moral compass. It

923
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:17.719
<v Speaker 2>was pretty loose, but I mean they tried to avoid

924
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:22.239
<v Speaker 2>killing women and children, but it tried. Yeah, they still

925
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:25.159
<v Speaker 2>killed a lot of women. And if they found that

926
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:29.639
<v Speaker 2>the children were moldible, they would just raise them and

927
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 2>turn them into future thuggies. But they they tried not

928
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:38.280
<v Speaker 2>to kill women and children, but they still did sometimes,

929
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:49.239
<v Speaker 2>but it was mostly men in traveling like yeah, But

930
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.360
<v Speaker 2>so I wrote in my notes that I think it's

931
00:58:52.400 --> 00:59:01.239
<v Speaker 2>interesting with everything we know about California, the name California,

932
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:07.960
<v Speaker 2>when californicates, I feel like that's gotta be something significant.

933
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:10.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean this today, I could.

934
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:13.639
<v Speaker 2>See that, like this colt has a body count and

935
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:17.719
<v Speaker 2>the millions, and they're doing this for this Cali. And

936
00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:23.519
<v Speaker 2>then I mean, if you think about it, California, I

937
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:26.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know, that's where all the bad shit goes down,

938
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:33.360
<v Speaker 2>all the Laurel Canyons and the Sunset strips and whatever.

939
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:38.320
<v Speaker 3>The Bay Area, that's where Cali likes to take a bath.

940
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:43.000
<v Speaker 2>All the mc martin preschools and the Presidio base and

941
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:47.920
<v Speaker 2>the Zodiac Killer and fucking all that came from California.

942
00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:53.119
<v Speaker 2>So the Thuggie were diverse, but it ended up expanding

943
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:58.440
<v Speaker 2>to Muslims and seeks all worshiping the one who fell

944
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:04.239
<v Speaker 2>from the stars and transcends religion. That's how they described Cali,

945
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:10.960
<v Speaker 2>and so they reportedly operated as gangs of highwaymen who

946
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:15.639
<v Speaker 2>tricked and murdered their victims by strangling. To take advantage

947
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:19.280
<v Speaker 2>of the victims, the thugs would join the travelers and

948
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:23.119
<v Speaker 2>gain their confidence, which would allow them to surprise and

949
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:28.079
<v Speaker 2>strangle a motherfucker with whatever they had handy, most of

950
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:30.559
<v Speaker 2>the time a handkerchief, sometimes a noose.

951
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:33.119
<v Speaker 3>Why can't they just use their hands?

952
01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Because they're Indian, Okay, they gotta be ceremonial about the shit.

953
01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. So one of the Thuggie would befriend

954
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the potential targets, even to the point of assuming their

955
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:51.559
<v Speaker 2>religion and accompanying them for a little while to assess

956
01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:56.960
<v Speaker 2>their potential wealth and then eventually to.

957
01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Do with it.

958
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, they rob them, these travelers for Kelly, Yeah, Well

959
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:05.639
<v Speaker 2>to keep the to keep the cult going, because there

960
01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:08.119
<v Speaker 2>was they were there were so many of them, and

961
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:10.800
<v Speaker 2>they'd rob these guys and I mean.

962
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:12.159
<v Speaker 3>I guess, if you're gonna kill him, you might as

963
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:17.440
<v Speaker 3>well take the resources. Hell yeah, they also we're targeting

964
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:18.559
<v Speaker 3>more wealthy people.

965
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:21.239
<v Speaker 2>That's what it seems like to me, because it's like

966
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:23.760
<v Speaker 2>to befriended.

967
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:25.559
<v Speaker 3>Them for a while, then find out.

968
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Gain their trust. Yeah, how many scarfs they have? I

969
01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:35.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's valuable to Indians?

970
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Curry?

971
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:43.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was insensitive, it though I love Curry, I.

972
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Do too, Kurkumin, turmeric smosas.

973
01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:51.079
<v Speaker 2>I love those.

974
01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:54.639
<v Speaker 3>I like mimosas.

975
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I know you do. So Eventually, as one thug managed

976
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:04.000
<v Speaker 2>to distract the victims by engaging them in conversation, the

977
01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:07.079
<v Speaker 2>other members who were tasked with killing, would strangle them

978
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:14.360
<v Speaker 2>swiftly from behind. After the murder, they sometimes mutilated the

979
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:22.239
<v Speaker 2>corpses to hide evidence, but always buried their remains, and

980
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:27.159
<v Speaker 2>although strangulation was their favorite and most recognized method of murder,

981
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:32.000
<v Speaker 2>they weren't against using blades and poison on occasion.

982
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:34.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, how would Cali drink the poison blood?

983
01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. They did it though, So the poisonous

984
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:44.400
<v Speaker 2>ingredients which were prepared by the Thugie consisted of something

985
01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:51.639
<v Speaker 2>called dietura. Mattel, shut up, it's called the Indian thorn apple.

986
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Well say it again. Is Detura's something else? Mattel de

987
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:03.000
<v Speaker 3>terra was like one of the old hallucinogen.

988
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what it says. It says the Indian thorn apple,

989
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:12.800
<v Speaker 2>a poisonous plant sacred to Shiva with powerful delirient properties,

990
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:18.079
<v Speaker 2>which was used by the Thuggies to induce drowsiness and stupefication,

991
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:21.480
<v Speaker 2>making it much easier to strangle their victims.

992
01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh, so they would get them tripping and then choke them.

993
01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, isn't that cray, cray? Why not just it's like

994
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:30.679
<v Speaker 2>you said, why not just choke them out?

995
01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, it'd be way easier to fucking the guys in

996
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.559
<v Speaker 3>a detera hole and then you choke them. It's probably

997
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:38.280
<v Speaker 3>way easier.

998
01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, the reason why their main method of killing the

999
01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:46.559
<v Speaker 2>victims was strangulation, but then they started using like blades

1000
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and cutting them up and doing this thorn apple and all.

1001
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:53.519
<v Speaker 2>This is because they're over this span of many many

1002
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:59.039
<v Speaker 2>years that Thuggie had different leaders and they all kind

1003
01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:04.719
<v Speaker 2>of had their own signature move, I guess, and like Barram,

1004
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:09.639
<v Speaker 2>he mostly strangled his victims to save the blood for Collie.

1005
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:13.880
<v Speaker 2>But there were others who would use this thorn apple

1006
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.639
<v Speaker 2>and strangle. Some of them had swords, some of them

1007
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:21.960
<v Speaker 2>had would cut them up and bury the pieces. And

1008
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:25.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean there were there were more. It was more

1009
01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:28.840
<v Speaker 2>than just Barram. But he was the most notorious because

1010
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:32.719
<v Speaker 2>his body count alone was like nine hundred and twenty

1011
01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:37.480
<v Speaker 2>eight just him. So that's pretty cray crazy to me.

1012
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:43.679
<v Speaker 2>He was arrested in eighteen forty and he was executed,

1013
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:49.039
<v Speaker 2>but it was only after years and years so of.

1014
01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:54.840
<v Speaker 3>His body count because you said it was in.

1015
01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:58.760
<v Speaker 2>The millions, No, the Thuggie all together was so what

1016
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:04.400
<v Speaker 2>was what was nine hundred and something alone?

1017
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:05.599
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty impressive.

1018
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why he's called like the deadliest killer of

1019
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:13.519
<v Speaker 2>all time because even though the the Thugy cult as

1020
01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:19.480
<v Speaker 2>a whole, over the span of six centuries killed two million,

1021
01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Baram was responsible for almost a thousand just himself. There.

1022
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:27.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was the thug.

1023
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:31.360
<v Speaker 2>But it the reason why Baram is most known is

1024
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:37.039
<v Speaker 2>because after he was executed, the Thugie disbanded. After six

1025
01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:44.159
<v Speaker 2>centuries of wreaking havoc across India, and today their reputation

1026
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 2>lives on obviously in their namesake, because it's a term

1027
01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:55.480
<v Speaker 2>that we use now to discribe like criminals, thugs or

1028
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:59.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was even pop culture for a while.

1029
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:01.119
<v Speaker 2>It was like a thing to be a thug.

1030
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1031
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:07.320
<v Speaker 2>But this is why I picked this cult and why

1032
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:10.679
<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting, because there's this side of this

1033
01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:14.639
<v Speaker 2>cult that ancient aliens in the History Channel will tell

1034
01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:17.800
<v Speaker 2>you abopaam and they killed two million and it was

1035
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:18.960
<v Speaker 2>for Cali, Right?

1036
01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:21.599
<v Speaker 3>Can I ask about that, Like, what was the context

1037
01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:24.760
<v Speaker 3>of the alien ancient aliens where they brought these guys in.

1038
01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:30.039
<v Speaker 2>They said that Cali was ancient alien and that they

1039
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:33.039
<v Speaker 2>had channeled her and that she requested of them to

1040
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:34.000
<v Speaker 2>do this for her.

1041
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:39.599
<v Speaker 3>So they're on board with this at the History Channel.

1042
01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, they're on board with saying that these they really

1043
01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:47.840
<v Speaker 2>channel They were channeling a very real extraterrestrial that was

1044
01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:53.840
<v Speaker 2>blood thirsty. A lot of the old gods were blood thirsty,

1045
01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:56.039
<v Speaker 2>though it wasn't just Cali.

1046
01:06:56.039 --> 01:06:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Your god Old Testament style.

1047
01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh come on, why out a job like that.

1048
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:03.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, I agree.

1049
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about like the aztects and shit with the

1050
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:11.679
<v Speaker 2>blood letting and the cutting hearts out and shit and

1051
01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:13.000
<v Speaker 2>the strangulations.

1052
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.800
<v Speaker 3>You know that people volunteered for that.

1053
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:18.559
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying, is because they wanted to please

1054
01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:23.199
<v Speaker 2>the gods. They say that all the time in ancient Aliens,

1055
01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:25.440
<v Speaker 2>like it's like something to be proud of, like they

1056
01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:27.880
<v Speaker 2>were doing some good thing by doing that.

1057
01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:33.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, it is the history channel they like to plant

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01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:34.039
<v Speaker 3>certain seeds.

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01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, this is where this is where cosmic peach

1060
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:44.239
<v Speaker 2>and ancient aliens always diverges. And you can tell me

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01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:47.920
<v Speaker 2>what you think, right, Because they're saying that these thuggie

1062
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:51.039
<v Speaker 2>were channeling Cali and that she was an extraterrestrial and

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01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:55.840
<v Speaker 2>she was blood hungry and she wanted all these bodies, right,

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01:07:55.920 --> 01:08:01.519
<v Speaker 2>that's why they say he did this for Cali. Many

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01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:07.320
<v Speaker 2>have actually speculated that this cult originated as assassins under

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01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:16.239
<v Speaker 2>the employ of one Brahman family, you know, the Brahmans. Yeah, okay,

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01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:21.640
<v Speaker 2>that shouldn't surprise anyone, seeing as how Kamala Harris isn't

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01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:26.880
<v Speaker 2>just black and Indian, but she's Brahman Like, this is

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01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:31.640
<v Speaker 2>like the royal bloodline of India.

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01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, I believe that just because of the Knights Templar

1071
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:40.359
<v Speaker 3>shit that Kamala was into. Yeah, Nick from a colt

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01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:44.199
<v Speaker 3>rejects and headless giant, and I think it was more

1073
01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:48.840
<v Speaker 3>headless doing the presentation about this weird Knights Templar shit

1074
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:52.000
<v Speaker 3>that they had their own police force and they were

1075
01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:55.800
<v Speaker 3>operating in Mexico. It's crazy like.

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01:08:55.840 --> 01:08:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Da Vinci code stuff.

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01:08:57.279 --> 01:08:58.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, so this Brahmin It's interesting because I read an

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01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:06.720
<v Speaker 2>article just on Kamala and it says many have dissected

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01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:11.279
<v Speaker 2>the presidential candidate's background this election, yet most ignore her

1081
01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:18.840
<v Speaker 2>cast cste cast and so I got to look it

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01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:23.960
<v Speaker 2>into it and it says Harris's family from her mother's

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01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:30.640
<v Speaker 2>side belongs to India's Brahmin caste. And it says, in

1084
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:35.760
<v Speaker 2>contrast to the history of black people's slavery under white oppression,

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01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:42.000
<v Speaker 2>the history of Brahmin's is underwritten by centuries of enslaving

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01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:47.039
<v Speaker 2>many millions of others. They believe they are superior to

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01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:50.640
<v Speaker 2>literally all humankind through their birthright.

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01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Sweet.

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01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:58.600
<v Speaker 2>So there is speculation that the Thugie were under the

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01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:04.640
<v Speaker 2>employ assassins to the Brahmin family and that they were

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01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:09.039
<v Speaker 2>like exterminating people like literally like a genocide type thing

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01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:11.680
<v Speaker 2>since Alexander the Great, Well, if you.

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01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Go back to where you were talking about, it seemed

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01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:19.199
<v Speaker 3>like they were trying to rip or they were trying

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01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:24.560
<v Speaker 3>to wipe out rich people that were beneath them. No,

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01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:29.600
<v Speaker 3>I would assume that it was if it's the Brahmins,

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01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:33.800
<v Speaker 3>more like take out the competitors.

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01:10:34.119 --> 01:10:36.359
<v Speaker 2>But the reason why I say.

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01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:40.279
<v Speaker 3>That is why, I mean, blood is blood, right, Yeah,

1100
01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:44.119
<v Speaker 3>if it's all the callie thing, But if you're talking

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01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:48.359
<v Speaker 3>about assassins, assassins for a certain dynasty.

1102
01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:50.479
<v Speaker 2>And why they were able to get away with it.

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01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:55.399
<v Speaker 3>Why would poor blood be any less valuable than rich blood.

1104
01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:59.520
<v Speaker 3>But if that's the cover story and there's you know,

1105
01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:02.560
<v Speaker 3>all this pillaging taking place, and they're like how much

1106
01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:05.680
<v Speaker 3>money do you make? Mm hmm, it seems like it's

1107
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:07.720
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more leaning towards that.

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01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, And think about it, hunt, how many colts do

1109
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:13.600
<v Speaker 2>you know that can run rampant this way for six

1110
01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:20.680
<v Speaker 2>centuries if they weren't like under the protection of someone

1111
01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:28.640
<v Speaker 2>on high. Yeah, I mean it's like, yeah, nonviolent colts

1112
01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:32.239
<v Speaker 2>can go on for a long time, several years, six centuries,

1113
01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, oh, we just can't stop them. They

1114
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:39.439
<v Speaker 2>just they just keep strangling people and poisoning them.

1115
01:11:39.479 --> 01:11:41.439
<v Speaker 3>That is giving Christianity a run.

1116
01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:43.399
<v Speaker 2>For its money six centuries.

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01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:46.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean, if you want to go to

1118
01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:48.560
<v Speaker 3>longevity there, But it's.

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01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:52.560
<v Speaker 2>The way that it's the way that it's presented to

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01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the public is that these were just crazy people who

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01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:59.720
<v Speaker 2>were doing this bloodlust thing for Cali.

1122
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:02.479
<v Speaker 3>And then that would explain why the History channels leaning

1123
01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:03.760
<v Speaker 3>into that and this.

1124
01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Whole extraterrestrial bowl. And then you really start looking into

1125
01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:10.279
<v Speaker 2>it and it's like the Brawnan family is involved, Like,

1126
01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:15.359
<v Speaker 2>come on, this has got way more sinister undertones than

1127
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:18.880
<v Speaker 2>just like some History Channel. Shit, I've never heard a

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01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:19.920
<v Speaker 2>podcast if.

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01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:24.960
<v Speaker 3>The History Channel comes in and shifts the narrative. That's

1130
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:30.039
<v Speaker 3>what they do. I mean history in general, like mainstream history,

1131
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:33.800
<v Speaker 3>is just that's what they do. So you get the

1132
01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:36.760
<v Speaker 3>History Channel and they're like, yeah, they were channeling Collie

1133
01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:41.399
<v Speaker 3>Eat More Popcorn, you fucking retards. I mean, it's the

1134
01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:45.720
<v Speaker 3>History Channel. But yeah, yeah, I didn't see it going

1135
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:47.600
<v Speaker 3>this way. When you start talking about it.

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01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the whole reason why I think it's interesting.

1137
01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:54.479
<v Speaker 3>And so did you know that before you start researching it?

1138
01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:58.359
<v Speaker 2>I knew that it was kind of interesting based on

1139
01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the extraterrestrial angle, but then if you really look into

1140
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:03.359
<v Speaker 2>it and.

1141
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:05.119
<v Speaker 3>You find out and stuff.

1142
01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:08.319
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know about the Brahmin thing. I thought it

1143
01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:13.680
<v Speaker 2>was gonna be more like, I don't know. I just

1144
01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get on board with the extraterrestrial thing, so

1145
01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I tried to find what the real angle on it

1146
01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:22.439
<v Speaker 2>could be, because they always obscure that, and then you

1147
01:13:22.520 --> 01:13:24.279
<v Speaker 2>find out what it is, and then it's like, well,

1148
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:29.000
<v Speaker 2>this is way more fucking interesting than extraterrestrials. So you

1149
01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:31.159
<v Speaker 2>know that girl, I'm always talking about that. I just

1150
01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:35.239
<v Speaker 2>did an episode on Tuesday World. She's descended from the

1151
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Boston Brahmins.

1152
01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:39.119
<v Speaker 3>Where are the Boston Bromins?

1153
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:44.279
<v Speaker 2>So the Boston Brahmins were basically the Brahmin family that

1154
01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:51.039
<v Speaker 2>came to America and they're on this So jj Vance

1155
01:13:51.439 --> 01:13:54.359
<v Speaker 2>and I would both put them in the same category

1156
01:13:54.399 --> 01:14:00.239
<v Speaker 2>as the Rockafellers. They're like American royalty, but they're blood

1157
01:14:00.279 --> 01:14:02.560
<v Speaker 2>liners going all the way back. They like, came over

1158
01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:04.520
<v Speaker 2>on the Mayflower and shit like that.

1159
01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:08.000
<v Speaker 3>They like, and they established themselves in Massachusetts.

1160
01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, So prominent individuals associated with the Boston Brahmins

1161
01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:23.520
<v Speaker 2>include President Calvin Coolidge and Franklin Roosevelt, poets Ts Eliott

1162
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:31.760
<v Speaker 2>and Ralph Waldo Emerson, and statesmen like Henry Cabot Lodge

1163
01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:36.920
<v Speaker 2>and also Samuel Adams and John Adams, founding Fathers of

1164
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:41.520
<v Speaker 2>the United States are also connected to the Boston Brahman lineage,

1165
01:14:42.640 --> 01:14:47.560
<v Speaker 2>and they have highlighted the group's historical roots, so it's

1166
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:52.680
<v Speaker 2>like they're proud of it. And other prominent figures include

1167
01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:58.680
<v Speaker 2>John Kerry, the former US Secretary of State and John F. Kennedy,

1168
01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:02.800
<v Speaker 2>the thirty fifth President of the United States, who, while

1169
01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:08.520
<v Speaker 2>not traditionally Brahman, was associated with the group through family

1170
01:15:08.600 --> 01:15:09.960
<v Speaker 2>connections and wealth.

1171
01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:13.439
<v Speaker 3>Do you know the connections, Well.

1172
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:17.439
<v Speaker 2>Didn't his dad get involved with a bunch of Boston

1173
01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:19.800
<v Speaker 2>stuff in order to get elected?

1174
01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:21.560
<v Speaker 3>No, it was Chicago.

1175
01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was Chicago.

1176
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:26.399
<v Speaker 3>But they are from I mean they're from Boston. They

1177
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:30.479
<v Speaker 3>got that Boston accident. Yeah, they're Boston there that you know,

1178
01:15:31.399 --> 01:15:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Irish Catholic.

1179
01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:37.199
<v Speaker 2>That he was associated with the group through family connections

1180
01:15:37.239 --> 01:15:42.840
<v Speaker 2>and wealth. So it's like the Brahmins also started Harvard

1181
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:48.399
<v Speaker 2>University MM and all of the it's like founding fathers,

1182
01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:54.319
<v Speaker 2>presidents of the United States, Kamala Harris, who she likes

1183
01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:58.479
<v Speaker 2>to pretend like she's not fucking Indian. And that's something

1184
01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:01.319
<v Speaker 2>that's always bothered me, is how she's tried to hide that.

1185
01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:04.359
<v Speaker 3>And she's always swinging.

1186
01:16:04.039 --> 01:16:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Towards the black part, because if people found out this

1187
01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:10.399
<v Speaker 2>weird stuff about the Brahmins and how they enslaved people

1188
01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:13.039
<v Speaker 2>for years, it would be a little bit contradictory.

1189
01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:18.239
<v Speaker 3>I think she would go Indian in certain groups. But yeah,

1190
01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:25.920
<v Speaker 3>she's typically claiming to be black, which her dad was Jamaican.

1191
01:16:25.960 --> 01:16:28.800
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think her dad was black. I don't know.

1192
01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:31.199
<v Speaker 3>We just looked it up and Kamala Harris's dead does

1193
01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:32.399
<v Speaker 3>look black to me.

1194
01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

1195
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:36.439
<v Speaker 3>He don't look, you know.

1196
01:16:37.439 --> 01:16:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Very gently. Maybe he's yellow yellow.

1197
01:16:42.119 --> 01:16:47.000
<v Speaker 3>No compared my story most Kamala Harris.

1198
01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:54.000
<v Speaker 2>She's Brahman. She is Indian royalty. If you look, actually,

1199
01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:58.239
<v Speaker 2>because I put it in Wikipedia, I told you all

1200
01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:01.119
<v Speaker 2>the Americans of the Boston if you look at the

1201
01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:09.359
<v Speaker 2>lineage of the Brahmins in India, it's like physicists and

1202
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:22.359
<v Speaker 2>like high ranking government officials, actors, actresses. I mean, it's crazy.

1203
01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:25.359
<v Speaker 2>There are there are well, I mean it goes all

1204
01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:27.800
<v Speaker 2>the way back in time. But I mean it's just

1205
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:32.159
<v Speaker 2>they always managed to find themselves in like a high

1206
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:33.239
<v Speaker 2>ranking position.

1207
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:39.079
<v Speaker 3>And we'll look at the tech industry Indians. I'm not

1208
01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:44.359
<v Speaker 3>saying we're all worried about China taking over, but if

1209
01:17:44.399 --> 01:17:51.520
<v Speaker 3>you look at infiltration and that bill that Ramaswam kind

1210
01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:53.880
<v Speaker 3>of was in the Trump administration and then he got

1211
01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:56.760
<v Speaker 3>kicked out because I got to remember the name of

1212
01:17:56.800 --> 01:18:00.560
<v Speaker 3>the bill, but it was basically trying to get Indians

1213
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:07.640
<v Speaker 3>over here to get into these you know, upper echelon positions.

1214
01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:10.560
<v Speaker 2>M Well, what do you think, like with this Brahm

1215
01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:11.800
<v Speaker 2>and Thuggie connection.

1216
01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:14.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's interesting.

1217
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:18.359
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know very many colts who can rep

1218
01:18:18.439 --> 01:18:23.359
<v Speaker 2>six centuries of like just getting away with it mass.

1219
01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:24.239
<v Speaker 2>It's literally like.

1220
01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:28.479
<v Speaker 3>But the main guy, the main guy did go down eventually, Yeah,

1221
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:30.439
<v Speaker 3>after almost filling a thousand people.

1222
01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:33.319
<v Speaker 2>They say he did, you know, it's like they always do.

1223
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Though It's like, well, I.

1224
01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:37.359
<v Speaker 3>Mean I assume that after if he was under the

1225
01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:45.439
<v Speaker 3>employee of some super dynasty that once his usefulness were off,

1226
01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:48.159
<v Speaker 3>they would throw them to the wolves.

1227
01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Maybe, But you know, to me, it's like six centuries

1228
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:57.960
<v Speaker 2>of this and uh, it's like the Indian Hitler. They've

1229
01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:01.640
<v Speaker 2>got mass graves just all over India of just hundreds

1230
01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:05.520
<v Speaker 2>of bodies of these the victims of this Thuggie cult,

1231
01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:09.720
<v Speaker 2>and they were just so elusive they could never be stopped.

1232
01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:14.680
<v Speaker 2>That just I don't know. To me, I smell fish

1233
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:18.359
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to this whole. You think it was

1234
01:19:18.399 --> 01:19:19.239
<v Speaker 2>just blood.

1235
01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Blood letting, do I?

1236
01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, Okay, well then we can be on the

1237
01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:27.600
<v Speaker 2>same page. I know that was a short presentation, but

1238
01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting.

1239
01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:31.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it was short.

1240
01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I saw two other podcasts that covered the Thuggie and

1241
01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:39.159
<v Speaker 2>it was exactly the like, almost word for word, off

1242
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:43.159
<v Speaker 2>the History Channel. They didn't even get into the extraterrestrial angle.

1243
01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:48.920
<v Speaker 3>They just said, I still don't see the extraterrestory angle like.

1244
01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:54.399
<v Speaker 2>That, that Cali was a flesh and blood fucking being

1245
01:19:54.560 --> 01:20:01.840
<v Speaker 2>that was walking around and fucking I guess, requiring blood sacrifices.

1246
01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:03.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, does that have to do with aliens?

1247
01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:09.000
<v Speaker 2>That they missed? They mistaken her for a god when

1248
01:20:09.039 --> 01:20:10.960
<v Speaker 2>she was just an extraterrestrial.

1249
01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:14.079
<v Speaker 3>Okay, but see that's what they do.

1250
01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:17.159
<v Speaker 2>In ancient aliens. You know, I did mention her in

1251
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:21.439
<v Speaker 2>the I did mention Cali in the Vampire episode two,

1252
01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:22.760
<v Speaker 2>because that.

1253
01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Makes more sense than she's an alien.

1254
01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:30.399
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, like they say this this extraterrestrial just showed

1255
01:20:30.479 --> 01:20:32.439
<v Speaker 2>up when and it's like she doesn't even have any

1256
01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:35.720
<v Speaker 2>cool powers. They said she like killed infants in their

1257
01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:36.920
<v Speaker 2>crib and stuff.

1258
01:20:37.439 --> 01:20:40.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if Ancient Aliens goes on long enough, my

1259
01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:46.359
<v Speaker 3>dog Dexter's asshole is gonna be an alien in some episode.

1260
01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1261
01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:49.920
<v Speaker 3>With those poopours, they're running out of shit.

1262
01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:52.479
<v Speaker 2>They really are. Have you seen some of the stuff

1263
01:20:52.520 --> 01:20:53.760
<v Speaker 2>they've been putting out lately.

1264
01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:56.640
<v Speaker 3>It's like Kookie, it was always Cookie.

1265
01:20:56.720 --> 01:20:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Well okay, can we just say on a side tangent.

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01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:01.279
<v Speaker 2>When it came out, it was cool.

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01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was like bringing this pan spermiat all

1268
01:21:08.039 --> 01:21:10.439
<v Speaker 3>the rage shit to mainstream.

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01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:16.399
<v Speaker 2>I okay. Tell me though, when that first season dropped

1270
01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:20.560
<v Speaker 2>and they were talking about there's no way that slaves

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01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:24.439
<v Speaker 2>with ropes and pulleys built the pyramids.

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01:21:24.279 --> 01:21:25.399
<v Speaker 3>So it was Aliens.

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01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:28.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, I'm just saying I hadn't heard anybody say

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01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:29.119
<v Speaker 2>that on TV.

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01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:31.720
<v Speaker 3>You hadn't heard anybody say it on TV. But there

1276
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:35.520
<v Speaker 3>was a lot of people like Fingerprints of the Gods.

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01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:37.479
<v Speaker 3>This was in the lexicon for sure.

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01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:40.000
<v Speaker 2>It's the Chariot of the Gods.

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01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:43.479
<v Speaker 3>Well which one is which I was getting mixed up?

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01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:45.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, they're both really good books.

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01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:48.680
<v Speaker 3>So Graham Hancock is Fingerprints of Yes, yeah, Chariots of

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01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:50.279
<v Speaker 3>the Gods, thank you, that's the one.

1283
01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:54.439
<v Speaker 2>I was Chariots of the Gods is that Van danikin Guy? Right?

1284
01:21:54.479 --> 01:21:57.880
<v Speaker 3>But this isn't an idea, that's just being recycled and

1285
01:21:57.960 --> 01:21:59.960
<v Speaker 3>dumbed down, and that's where the history chame.

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01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:04.039
<v Speaker 2>But that I think you're older than me, so maybe

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01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:07.439
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't and you're not very easily excitable, as we know.

1288
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:11.439
<v Speaker 2>But when that first season dropped, I was creaming my

1289
01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:15.239
<v Speaker 2>fucking panties because I was in like fourth grade, and

1290
01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:17.319
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was so cool because it was stuff

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01:22:17.359 --> 01:22:19.680
<v Speaker 2>that like me and my mom had talked about but

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01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:23.359
<v Speaker 2>it had never been on TV before. And they were

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01:22:23.359 --> 01:22:28.399
<v Speaker 2>like showing like go Back La Tepe and and that

1294
01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:32.359
<v Speaker 2>one that was supposed to be Inca. I mean, I

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01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:35.119
<v Speaker 2>see the appeal and it was like, there's no way

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01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:37.720
<v Speaker 2>they could have carved these out. They would have had

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01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:41.319
<v Speaker 2>to have laser precision, and it looks like the rocks

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01:22:41.359 --> 01:22:43.880
<v Speaker 2>were melted and then like formed into play. And I

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01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:46.960
<v Speaker 2>was like what the fuck? This is amazing?

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01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, it just takes me back to another South Park

1301
01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:52.520
<v Speaker 3>episode where they're making fun of ancient aliens, and my gosh,

1302
01:22:52.560 --> 01:22:57.119
<v Speaker 3>they're like, there's no proof that aliens weren't present at

1303
01:22:57.119 --> 01:23:00.800
<v Speaker 3>the first Thanksgiving dinner and then they like show recreation

1304
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:04.880
<v Speaker 3>photo of it and there's aliens with the Pilgrim hats on.

1305
01:23:05.279 --> 01:23:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I get it that they push the alien

1306
01:23:07.760 --> 01:23:10.520
<v Speaker 2>thing super hard, but when you do look at these

1307
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:14.039
<v Speaker 2>ancient structures, there's no way the story that history gives

1308
01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:14.880
<v Speaker 2>you is accurate.

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01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:18.039
<v Speaker 3>There's just zero chance just say it was aliens.

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01:23:18.319 --> 01:23:22.720
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm just saying, before we started podcasting and podcasting

1311
01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:25.319
<v Speaker 2>was even a thing, we had ancient aliens. Whether you

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01:23:25.399 --> 01:23:26.439
<v Speaker 2>agreed with it or not.

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01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:28.239
<v Speaker 3>I agree with it, but I think there was way

1314
01:23:28.279 --> 01:23:32.560
<v Speaker 3>cooler shit out there. I mean, you look at the

1315
01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:35.800
<v Speaker 3>stuff that the History Channel and the Learning Channel are

1316
01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:39.680
<v Speaker 3>doing now, and it's these guys shitting their pants over

1317
01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:42.960
<v Speaker 3>ghosts that they don't see. Oh my neck got really hot.

1318
01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Do you guys see that red mark on my neck?

1319
01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Like it's an upside down cross on my neck? Just

1320
01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:56.199
<v Speaker 2>now they all want to get molested by ghosts. I

1321
01:23:56.239 --> 01:23:58.760
<v Speaker 2>love Ghost Adventures.

1322
01:23:58.199 --> 01:24:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I know, you do know it's fake whoa, that's on record.

1323
01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:06.640
<v Speaker 2>But I mean it's like, I think that Zach guy

1324
01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:11.119
<v Speaker 2>has tapped into some dark shit though. He's got some

1325
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:16.600
<v Speaker 2>weirdness about him. There's a weirdness about him and a

1326
01:24:16.640 --> 01:24:17.359
<v Speaker 2>weird darkness.

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01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's a fucking charlatan. Of course he's got weirdness

1328
01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:23.319
<v Speaker 3>about him.

1329
01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:26.560
<v Speaker 2>He's got weird He's gotten himself into like some weird

1330
01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:30.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff about like wanting to get possessed and like channel Yeah, he.

1331
01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Wants he wants to get possessed by your fat and

1332
01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:34.640
<v Speaker 3>dirty dollar.

1333
01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>So come on, you're going off another South Park episode

1334
01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:41.279
<v Speaker 2>where they make fun of the gost.

1335
01:24:41.560 --> 01:24:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that guy's legitimate.

1336
01:24:44.239 --> 01:24:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying he's legit. I'm saying yeah, but he's

1337
01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:48.960
<v Speaker 2>himself into some weirdness.

1338
01:24:49.279 --> 01:24:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he sold his soul to have a famous TV show.

1339
01:24:54.239 --> 01:24:56.319
<v Speaker 3>That's as far as I'll go with his weirdness.

1340
01:24:56.600 --> 01:25:02.000
<v Speaker 2>But so I think I Oh, and that the one

1341
01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:04.720
<v Speaker 2>guy off Ghost Adventure's wife tried to hire a hitman

1342
01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:07.119
<v Speaker 2>to kill him. I mean, there's some weirdness with them.

1343
01:25:08.119 --> 01:25:10.119
<v Speaker 2>He kicked one guy completely off.

1344
01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:12.159
<v Speaker 3>The show Drama.

1345
01:25:13.239 --> 01:25:16.279
<v Speaker 2>That was a long time ago, but Anyways, there was

1346
01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:18.880
<v Speaker 2>an episode where they met this crack headed guy in

1347
01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma and his double wide.

1348
01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:22.920
<v Speaker 3>That's probably hard to do.

1349
01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:27.039
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe they even aired this episode because it

1350
01:25:27.079 --> 01:25:27.680
<v Speaker 2>was so hilarious.

1351
01:25:27.720 --> 01:25:29.159
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe they've aired any of it.

1352
01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:35.039
<v Speaker 2>They went to this this crackheaded guy in Oklahoma's double wide.

1353
01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Crackheaded guy, Yeah, and they they bought they got this

1354
01:25:39.239 --> 01:25:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Ouiji board out and he said he could channel the

1355
01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:45.279
<v Speaker 2>spirit of Zozo And they were all getting down in

1356
01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:48.159
<v Speaker 2>the floor and they were summoning the thing and it

1357
01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:51.800
<v Speaker 2>was moving all over the place and Zach and the

1358
01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:55.520
<v Speaker 2>guy's wife was clear that she started taking her pants off.

1359
01:25:56.079 --> 01:26:00.000
<v Speaker 3>What you did say he was a crack headed guy.

1360
01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:02.479
<v Speaker 3>Chances are he had a crack headed wife.

1361
01:26:03.479 --> 01:26:05.840
<v Speaker 2>He took off the seven eleven in the middle of

1362
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:06.680
<v Speaker 2>the episode.

1363
01:26:06.960 --> 01:26:09.760
<v Speaker 3>She needs that slur gosh.

1364
01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Some of the early episodes were kind of just absolutely laughable.

1365
01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:19.840
<v Speaker 2>But they've they've improved, like the quality of the show

1366
01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:23.199
<v Speaker 2>as where they go to more famous places and they

1367
01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>have I think they have people like throwing ship around

1368
01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:28.279
<v Speaker 2>and doing stuff so they.

1369
01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Can say, no, it's all real.

1370
01:26:31.119 --> 01:26:33.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying they try to My neck.

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01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Got warm, did you, guys, do you see a mark?

1372
01:26:37.760 --> 01:26:40.520
<v Speaker 3>My neck is warm right now. Just as she was talking,

1373
01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:41.920
<v Speaker 3>my neck just started burning.

1374
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:44.039
<v Speaker 2>What about your bee hole?

1375
01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, i'd throw some bee hole into.

1376
01:26:46.760 --> 01:26:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Its paranormal activity.

1377
01:26:50.600 --> 01:26:52.479
<v Speaker 3>I've had paranormal experiences.

1378
01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Because if you're gonna say I have.

1379
01:26:55.199 --> 01:26:58.880
<v Speaker 3>The no, just because I fucking say that. The ghost

1380
01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:04.920
<v Speaker 3>adventures guys shills, I don't believe in paranormal activity. Well,

1381
01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:10.199
<v Speaker 3>if that's the measure, yeah, But having experienced my own

1382
01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:13.520
<v Speaker 3>paranormal shit, I do think it's real.

1383
01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Did you get molested?

1384
01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:16.279
<v Speaker 3>Probably?

1385
01:27:19.079 --> 01:27:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Did you see a ghosts?

1386
01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:25.439
<v Speaker 3>I've seen ghosts, yes, with your own eyes. Well, they

1387
01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:29.079
<v Speaker 3>weren't anybody else. I don't remember this. I was two,

1388
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:32.880
<v Speaker 3>but my mom and my dad told me the story,

1389
01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:37.359
<v Speaker 3>and I do believe it. I've had out of body experiences.

1390
01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:43.439
<v Speaker 3>I know that's true, paralysis and astral projection. Shit. I

1391
01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:46.359
<v Speaker 3>believe all of this stuff. But I'm not trying to

1392
01:27:46.439 --> 01:27:51.000
<v Speaker 3>go on TV and say, my next burning there's ghosts

1393
01:27:51.039 --> 01:27:51.399
<v Speaker 3>in here.

1394
01:27:52.199 --> 01:27:58.760
<v Speaker 2>So because you've had like sleep paralysis and stuff, and

1395
01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:03.439
<v Speaker 2>you've some of the stuff you described to me sounds horrifying.

1396
01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:07.520
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like that hill House show we watched on

1397
01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Netflix with the bentneck lady. But or insidious.

1398
01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they tried to describe it and insidious. That's not

1399
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:21.119
<v Speaker 3>what it's like to me.

1400
01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:25.680
<v Speaker 2>But sure, you don't ever get scared. You said you've

1401
01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>had things come and sit on your chest.

1402
01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:29.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I used to get scared.

1403
01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>What happened?

1404
01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:34.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's been going on for years and I'm

1405
01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:34.760
<v Speaker 3>still alive.

1406
01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:38.920
<v Speaker 2>So you just stopped? Did they still come sit on you?

1407
01:28:38.960 --> 01:28:41.760
<v Speaker 3>No, that was early on. But I mean we can

1408
01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:44.079
<v Speaker 3>talk about that on one of your Friday Fright nights

1409
01:28:44.159 --> 01:28:44.720
<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

1410
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:48.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, so you believe in this, well, for sure.

1411
01:28:48.520 --> 01:28:51.199
<v Speaker 3>I believe in it. That's why when I see these guys,

1412
01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:55.079
<v Speaker 3>obviously they're hucksters and they're making a buck off of

1413
01:28:55.119 --> 01:28:59.960
<v Speaker 3>this shit, it's not convincing to me in one fucking iota.

1414
01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

1415
01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:02.000
<v Speaker 3>It's just.

1416
01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Is it entertaining?

1417
01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:05.960
<v Speaker 3>No?

1418
01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:07.159
<v Speaker 2>I think it is.

1419
01:29:07.399 --> 01:29:10.560
<v Speaker 3>I know you do, And do you judge me? No,

1420
01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:13.079
<v Speaker 3>I'll make fun of you while you're watching it, but

1421
01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:16.800
<v Speaker 3>I watched stupid shit do well?

1422
01:29:17.039 --> 01:29:19.199
<v Speaker 2>You know? Just a shout out before I ask you

1423
01:29:19.279 --> 01:29:24.479
<v Speaker 2>a concluding question. Have you been liking that dan Ackroid

1424
01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>show on Netflix? I think it? Or no? It's Hulu. Right,

1425
01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:30.119
<v Speaker 2>it's on Hulu. I think it's pretty good.

1426
01:29:31.319 --> 01:29:38.199
<v Speaker 3>What's it called Unbelievable, Yeah, it's I like dan Akroyd.

1427
01:29:40.079 --> 01:29:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I do think he's kind of slid into this useful

1428
01:29:43.039 --> 01:29:48.800
<v Speaker 3>idiot role, which he's dan Akroyd. I wouldn't judge him

1429
01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:53.079
<v Speaker 3>unless he was part of the club, which you know,

1430
01:29:54.079 --> 01:29:57.920
<v Speaker 3>du trou and all that. I don't think he's in there.

1431
01:29:59.399 --> 01:30:04.960
<v Speaker 3>I think that he's capitalizing on his fascinations which have

1432
01:30:05.079 --> 01:30:07.720
<v Speaker 3>become mainstream since he first started doing it. I mean,

1433
01:30:08.119 --> 01:30:12.439
<v Speaker 3>the guy wrote Ghostbusters. I love Ghostbusters, wanting too, the

1434
01:30:12.479 --> 01:30:14.960
<v Speaker 3>part where the ghost is giving him a blowjob that

1435
01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:16.880
<v Speaker 3>was based on a real experience he had.

1436
01:30:17.199 --> 01:30:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just I just like telling people what

1437
01:30:20.399 --> 01:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching recently, and we've been watching Crimes of the

1438
01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Paranormal on Hulu, which I think was good, at least

1439
01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:28.520
<v Speaker 2>most of the episodes.

1440
01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:31.640
<v Speaker 3>I started both of these shows while you were asleep. Well,

1441
01:30:32.119 --> 01:30:33.279
<v Speaker 3>I like him taking over.

1442
01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:38.239
<v Speaker 2>And we've been watching Unbelievable, and we've been watching The

1443
01:30:38.279 --> 01:30:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Fall of the House of Usher on Netflix.

1444
01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anything Mike Flannagan does is worth checking out.

1445
01:30:44.319 --> 01:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I love it all. Midnight mass Hill House, I gotta

1446
01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:51.359
<v Speaker 2>get you to watch Blind Man or after this. But

1447
01:30:53.680 --> 01:30:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I did want to say, just as a little quick

1448
01:30:55.760 --> 01:31:01.560
<v Speaker 2>thing that's completely unrelated. I fell asleep watching the Vincy Code.

1449
01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:03.439
<v Speaker 3>That's what that's good for.

1450
01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:06.479
<v Speaker 2>And I woke up in the second movie was on.

1451
01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:10.439
<v Speaker 2>It's called Angels and Demons. It's the both of them

1452
01:31:10.479 --> 01:31:11.760
<v Speaker 2>are Ron Howard.

1453
01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:14.680
<v Speaker 3>But based on the Dan Brown novels.

1454
01:31:14.920 --> 01:31:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but so they got Tom Hanks playing the Robert

1455
01:31:18.279 --> 01:31:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Langdon or whatever. Perfect accething that I write something that

1456
01:31:23.119 --> 01:31:27.479
<v Speaker 2>I never noticed in the second movie that just quit

1457
01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:28.880
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy shout.

1458
01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:31.039
<v Speaker 3>Out toddlers and in the background. No.

1459
01:31:31.399 --> 01:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>So the second movie is all about the Illuminati and

1460
01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>they go back in time and like explain it all

1461
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:39.760
<v Speaker 2>and like where the origins come from and like why

1462
01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:44.479
<v Speaker 2>it's significant whatever. During the movie, Tom Hanks checks his

1463
01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:48.159
<v Speaker 2>watch several times because it's like a pope's supposed to

1464
01:31:48.199 --> 01:31:51.079
<v Speaker 2>die every couple hours and he's always like checking his watch.

1465
01:31:51.399 --> 01:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>He's wearing a Mickey mouse watch the entire movie.

1466
01:31:56.560 --> 01:31:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh, Ron Howard, and I so loved you.

1467
01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:02.680
<v Speaker 2>It's isn't that interesting to you? There's no way that

1468
01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>was in the Dan Brown novel. Oh it was that

1469
01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:08.239
<v Speaker 2>he had a Mickey mouse watch that.

1470
01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:12.039
<v Speaker 3>Was probably Tom Hanks's suggestion, I'll do this sequel. I

1471
01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:13.520
<v Speaker 3>have to wear my Mickey.

1472
01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:19.399
<v Speaker 2>And then he goes on to play Disney.

1473
01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Another perfect selection.

1474
01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Didn't you Wouldn't you think that was his idea though,

1475
01:32:23.520 --> 01:32:24.840
<v Speaker 2>to wear a Mickey mouse Watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably he probably was wearing it anyway, and he was like,

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01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:30.760
<v Speaker 3>why do I need a prop? Can I just use

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<v Speaker 3>this right?

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01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Because they show it several times that he's wearing this

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01:32:35.920 --> 01:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Mickey mouse Watch. Interesting anyways, would you join the Thuggy Cult?

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<v Speaker 3>No, but I do give it a nine out of

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<v Speaker 3>ten Thuggies.

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01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Nine out of ten? What would have made it a

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01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:48.800
<v Speaker 2>ten for you?

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01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm, Jolly West?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, you're shooting for the impossible.

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01:32:56.640 --> 01:32:59.239
<v Speaker 3>There are some colts that will follow under this, I'm

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01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:04.640
<v Speaker 3>telling you, like, stay tuned for next episode. I don't

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01:33:04.640 --> 01:33:06.960
<v Speaker 3>think Jilly West is gonna make an appearance, but maybe

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<v Speaker 3>in the bonus.

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<v Speaker 2>So for my next cult. For the third installment.

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<v Speaker 1>The cult is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

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01:33:24.880 --> 01:33:30.239
<v Speaker 1>eight nine ten eleven words long is the name of

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01:33:30.279 --> 01:33:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the cult.

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01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>They weren't trying to be subtle at all, like, can't

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01:33:35.800 --> 01:33:39.439
<v Speaker 2>you shorten it eleven words long?

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes? Is this a translation. No, so this is an

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<v Speaker 3>American or at least Western civilization.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I can't tell you any more than that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like if I were gonna, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Thuggie happy sign in cinnamon. Uh well, what

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01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>did I cover? Oh, solar temple. I mean that's shit

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01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:11.039
<v Speaker 2>that you can remember. You name a cult something that's

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01:34:11.079 --> 01:34:13.640
<v Speaker 2>eleven words long, you might as well just fucking give

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01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:15.600
<v Speaker 2>up before you get started.

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<v Speaker 3>My hint is the phoenix rises only to get eaten

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01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:22.560
<v Speaker 3>by the viper.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Lord, that sounds ominous, ton is, Well, thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>joining me for another amazing episode of Into the CULTI Verse.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's see if people are amazed.

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01:34:37.279 --> 01:34:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Don't get too excited.

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01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:39.720
<v Speaker 3>Always do.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that being said, there is one very important

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01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>vital piece of information I need you to learn just

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01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:59.560
<v Speaker 2>as soon as humanly possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Without going out of my dog.

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01:35:31.479 --> 01:35:40.279
<v Speaker 3>I can know things on without looking out of my window.

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<v Speaker 3>I can know the.

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<v Speaker 4>Ways of Mather, the father want travels

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<v Speaker 3>The less one, The less one really no, oh