Speaker 1: Daily Beloved.
Speaker 2: We are gathered here today to get through this thing.
Speaker 1: Called but Surely you can't be serious podcast.
Speaker 2: We are so excited today we are going to do
two gigantic projects from nineteen eighty four. We are going
to look at Princess Purple Rain movie versus the Footloose movie.
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna look at the Footloose soundtrack and
the Purple Rain album.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a little bit tricky because we're going
to try and stay distinct between all the projects.
Speaker 1: In other words, we're gonna want to talk about the
music really really bad. We're talking about the movies, but
we are going to try our best to wait until
it's album time to talk about the music. But since
these movies are both so music centric, it's gonna be hard.
It's gonna be hard, right, Okay.
Speaker 2: Our executive producer today is one of my best friends
in the entire world, mister Chris Bauer.
Speaker 1: Chris Bauer, thank you so much for subscribing through Patreon.
We appreciate you and your wonderful ideas. He's given us
some stuff that I'm like, oh, we need to try
to do that.
Speaker 2: Still, the funniest guy I've ever met in my entire life.
We used to call him Bomber in high school.
Speaker 1: So thank you, Bomber, executive producer for the show, Bomber Bomber,
Thanks buddy. So remember that this is the Summer of
nineteen eighty four series, and as a reminder, these two
albums were among the only five albums of the year
to be a number one spot. Like we had, Thriller
got knocked out of its place by Footloose the soundtrack,
and then along came Huey Lewis and knocked it Out,
which we've covered just recently, which was then knocked out
by Bruce Springsteen born in the USA, which we compared
to Huey Lewis, and then of course Bruce Springsteen was
ultimately knocked out by Purple Rain. Now I've already done it,
I've already started talking albums. But it's important to know
that these albums wouldn't be the same without the movies.
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 2: And before we go too far down the road, yeah,
you mentioned all the number one albums of nineteen eighty four. Yes,
Prople Rain took over in August and Reign Supreme through
the end of the year. Yes, do you know the
album that knocked it out of its number one spot.
Speaker 1: No, what was it?
Speaker 2: It was born in the USA by Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 1: Oh he made it comeback nice. Well, let's get into
the movie, shall we yes? Kick off your Sunday shoes
and here we go. You could fly if you'd only
cut loose.
Speaker 2: Let's go footloose.
Speaker 1: Okay, So our story on Footloose starts back in the
night tenth century. I know, right, this is amazing. So
we have a unique circumstance. Here we are guys who
are recording from Oklahoma and Elmore City was the inspiration
for this movie Footloose.
Speaker 2: Elmore City, Oklahoma is a small town. My son's high
school football team has played Elmore City.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when I was when I first started in
the DA's office, Elmore City is in Garvin County, which
is where I was, So I was very familiar with
Elmore City. It was one of the cities that I
had and I didn't know until pretty far on in
my career that, oh hey, Elmore City is the inspiration
for the movie. Footloose. Had a girl who worked in
the office, Chryl god Rest her soul. She was from
Elmore City. And then another guy that I've brought up
several times who's been my friend for years now. Mister
Arlin Bullard also grew up in Elmore City. Okay, that's fantastic. Okay.
So Elmore City was founded back in eighteen ninety eight,
and that is when they put the law into effect
that there was no public dancing allowed in the city.
It was religious based. You'd still hear talk back in
the seventies of you know, if this is the Bible belt,
Elmore City is the buckle, sure, right. And so in
the late seventies, some high schoolers like who they were
freshmen at the time, they started saying, hey, you know,
we don't want to just have a banquet, We want
to have a prom. But you couldn't have a prom
because public dancing was outlawed, right right. And so what
they did was they did like a lawyer would do,
and they worked their way around the law. It was
this moment in the city council that there was some
magic that was worked. But I can tell you this.
The trick was the wording of the law said you
couldn't have public dancing. So what they said was, well,
how about we have a private dance? And the only
way that they could do that was to go through
the school. So the city council said, hey, if it's private,
it's not against the law. Do what you want to do. So,
unlike the movie where they had to go and fight
the city council on this, what they had to do
in real Elmore City was they had to fight the
school board. The school board did not want to have
a private dance. The religious feelings were still strong in
the seventies and dancing could lead to you know, sex
is lusty desires, absolutely right. So there were a couple
of people, Mary Temple Lee whose dad was actually on
the school board, and a guy named Leonard Coffee who
still works down at the at Rural Electric and Lindsay,
which is a town near Elmore City, and another guy
named Rex Kennedy. And the character Wren is a combination
of Rex and Leonard. It's those two guys. That's fantastic, right,
And then Mary Temple was kind of because her dad
was on the school board, She's kind of that inspiration
for the aerial character wait wait wait wait, wait wait ahead.
Speaker 2: Rex and Leonard became Wren. Yes, because I was thinking
to myself, I'm watching footlers so I'm like, Wren cool name.
Speaker 1: Never met any one in my life name Wren other
than the partner of Stempy. Yes, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Okay, Rex and Leonard keep going, Okay, Okay, So this is.
Speaker 1: The information that I got from Arlen. All right. So
they actually started petitioning the school board a couple of years,
like in like nineteen seventy eight, when they were freshmen.
The way it works is the juniors were the ones
that would host the prom for the seniors, but we
wanted to be in by the time we are seniors.
And so this is the story that Arln told me.
His dad is a member of the school board. It's
a five person school board, okay, yeah, And so his
dad is a member of the school board. And he
says the first year that they came and petitioned, it
was like unanimous, No, you cannot have a dance. They
were not deterred. Next year they came back, okay, and
it was like okay. One guy finally was like, okay,
you know what, I don't care. They can have it, right.
But the way it works is a five person and
the like the head, the guy who is Mary Temple's father,
He doesn't vote unless he has to be there for
a tiebreak. And so second year three to one, Yeah,
no dance that year. Third year comes along and another
guy falls off and says, you know what, I'm going
to say that it's okay that they have a dance.
And so Arlen has this wonderful story of his dad
being one of the only two holdouts to say, heck no,
I don't want to let him go dance. So they
have a two to two matchup, right to have voted yes,
let him dance, to have voted no. And who is
the tiebreaker. It's Mary Temple's father, Raymond Temple Lee, and
he says, let him dance. I thought that was a point.
Speaker 2: Let's dance, all right, that's fantastic.
Speaker 1: So there's a great news story that came out in
nineteen eighty and that spawned so much interest that there
ended up being a People magazine article. It was several
different magazines just this, hey, this, you know, hick Town
finally said let the kids dance, and so it made
a lot of national news. And that is what inspired
our dear friend, mister mister Dean Pitchford to write a movie.
That is great story, great story, so tell me about
Dean Pittford.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, so here's what I know about Dean Pitchford.
Dean Pittford is a guy who was born in Hawaii.
You know, he was an actor, a singer, dancer. In
nineteen seventy one, he was cast in a play called
Godspell in New York City.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And so he goes to New York City and he
starts to kind of rise in the rinks right there.
Speaker 1: Yeap. He actually got caught cast by Bob Fosse, who
we've talked about before.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was cast as Pippen in the Broadway
production of Pippen by Bob Fosse. Okay, Okay, Well this
is a guy.
Speaker 2: He's been in tons commercials, right, like mainstream commercials, yeah,
like Doctor Pepper and emin M's and like laized potato
chips McDonald's. Okay, So he was of this upcoming star, right.
Speaker 1: I wonder if he was in the singing McDonald's commercial
with John.
Speaker 2: Amos, that would be fantastic mop and a bucket baby.
So he starts working with other songwriters and he gets
invited to help sort of write these songs for this movie.
Speaker 1: Called Fame I'm on a lift. That's his.
Speaker 2: So he writes three songs. He he and this other.
Speaker 1: Guy whose name I didn't write now Michael Guys name
is Michael Gore.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he and Michael Gore they collaborate on three
songs for the movie Fame.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: One of them is called red Light, one of them
is I Sing the Body Electric, and one of them
is Fame, the song that everyone knows from Irine Care
listen to it right here.
Speaker 1: That song won him a it won him a Oscar,
and it won him a Golden Globe, So not bad. Yeah,
So he gets together with a guy named Kenny Loggins
and another guy named Steve Perry. Wait wait, wait wait,
Kenny Loggins and Steve Perry, yes together again for the
first time. Not Logins and Mestina, just Kenny by himself
and not Journey, but Steve Perry by himself, and they
write a song called Don't Fight It, which ends up
being a top twenty hit, also Grammy nominated, and he
co wrote the theme song for Solid Gold.
Speaker 2: Solid Gold was the TV show I used to watch.
Oh yeah, I mean it's kind of like a b
substitute for MTV, you know, right, Hey, you know, he
wrote a song for Melissa Manchester. People have kind of
forgotten this one over. It's kind of been buried in
the course of time.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. But it was a big hitting's one I
know very well.
Speaker 4: It's called you should Hear How She Talks about You.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: For me, that's a little kid, top down, turn up song.
Speaker 1: Awesome. So he reads the story about Elmore City, Oklahoma
and the People magazine. He goes down and he talks
to some of the folks down there and gets this
idea for a script. And so what Arlen told me
is that he believes that the character of Preacher was
inspired by this guy named Larry Kern. And Arlan said,
Larry was just the nicest guy in the world, Like
he wanted to take care of everybody, was looking out
for everybody. Just the best guy. But he was somebody
who was preaching against dancing from the pulpit, right like
that every preacher in town was at that point. And
he said, he said that his wife was even nicer
than he was, like she would just love on every
human being, like was her own child. They had this kid,
it was kind of close to Arlen's age that had
a pig in the in the four age competition, and
they would they called the pig Chip because they would
feed Chip chocolate chip cookies. And Chip did fantastic in
the four age and then poor missus Larry Kern cried
her eyes out when the competition was over and Chip
became picking.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, hey, listen, one thing we want to
be real clear and real gentle about.
Speaker 1: These are salt of the earth people.
Speaker 2: I think the movie does a really good job of
respectfully talking about these are solid people with morals, not
against people that don't have morals. But these are two
people with differing philosophies. Yeah, but they're both good people.
Speaker 1: You know, they're all good people. Well, I mean, let's
I mean to be frank. When I watched this movie
when I was a kid, I despised I thought I
despised the reverend leader. I did not like John Lythgow's
character as a grown man, and I'm not you know,
I certainly don't mind dancing, but as a grown man
watching this, I'm like, he actually was really trying to
do what he thought was best for these people. He
wasn't like, he wasn't this mustache twirling villain he was
somebody who was trying to do what was right and
was moved by a very impactful moment in his life.
So we can get into that here in a little bit.
But it's important to note that, yes, this story was
based on real people, and those real people were not
bad people. No, no, absolutely not. So. Pitchford writes the
screenplay for the movie that will become Footloose. He collaborates
on nine songs with Kenny Loggins, Eric Carmon, Jim Steinman,
Sammy Hagar. We have talked about nearly all of these guys.
I believe we have talked about every single one of them. Yes,
maybe not Eric Carmon, but yeah.
Speaker 2: One of these days when we talk about dirty dancing,
his name's gonna come up, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's an intes point, you know. We when we
originally talked about doing Footloose, we talked about comparing it
to dirty Dancing because it's kind of the guy girl
perspective on these two, you know, forbidden dance movies. But
I really like the way that we fell out and
landed on this versus purple ring. Yep, me too. So
he writes the script and the film lands with film
director herb Ross. Now we talked about the fact that
Dean Pitchford was a song and dance man. I mean
he was singing and dancing and acting. Herb Ross also
started off as a dancer turned choreographer turned Broadway director
turned film director. He directed a bunch of Neil Simon
stuff Iota be in Pictures. He directed Pennies from Heaven
had Steve Martin in it. He directed Max Dugan Returns,
which we talked about. Matthew brodricks first movie, Yes, and
then he has his first really huge hit with Footloose. Okay.
So here's the deal with Herbert Ross. So he's directed footage.
Speaker 2: He's in charge, and he's getting it ready, and he's
picking locations and he's involved in the casting and everything's happening. Well,
he gets a call from Warren Batty, and Warren Batty says, hey,
I like.
Speaker 1: What you've done.
Speaker 2: Why don't you come and direct my movie called Mermaid?
Speaker 1: So he leaves Footloose.
Speaker 2: When Herbert Ross gets to the set of Mermaid, he
realizes that he's not really wanted to be the director.
Warren Baty wants to direct the movie, okay, and so
it's one of those where there's too many chiefs and
you know, and he realizes that, man, this is not good.
And in the meantime, Footloose hires a guy named Michael Samino.
And when he comes on board, this is the guy
who directed the Deer Hunter in Heaven's Gate. So, but
he takes over, he starts to try to take it
down a darker path and he wants to change it
all up, rewrite the entire script. And so they said, listen,
this is not working out, so.
Speaker 1: They let him go.
Speaker 2: Well, in the meantime, Herbert Ross leaves Mermaid Mermaid, not
the Little Mermaid Mermaid right, different area.
Speaker 1: Different area. Good, that's funny.
Speaker 2: So he calls being pitch for and he says, listen,
I want to come back, and they're like, come on back.
Speaker 1: Good timing, we just fired the other guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Herbert Ross comes back and takes over Footless. Right,
let's flip over to the inspiration and the beginnings of
proble Rang.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, if you haven't caught our Sign of the
Times episode, we do some history on Prince. Yeah, we're
not going to go revisit that. If you want to
hear it, go listen to that episode. It's pretty darn good,
if I do say so myself. But I got to
dive a little bit deeper. I read a couple of
books on Prince. One called The Beautiful Ones, which I
encourage everybody to take out, a guy who basically had
no qualification to write a book that Prince handpicked to
write a book. Unfortunately he picked him about three months
before he passed away tragically. So that's an interesting one.
It's called The Beautiful Ones. And then a book called
What's Crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read Let's Go Crazy. It's written by a
guy named Alan Light. Yeah, and lots of inside information,
lots of tidbits.
Speaker 1: If you're a Prince fan, you definitely want to pick
this one up. So in our old episode on Sign
of the Times, I talked a little bit about Prince
being inspired by getting to see James Brown on stage. Right. Yes,
so I think his stepdad, I think, yeah. Yeah. So
there's three. There's like those three imprint moments that people
have in their lives sometimes, and so first imprint moment
for Prince is seeing his dad Prince Rogers no that
was his stage name. See seeing his dad in a
recording studio where it's got all these chairs and the
lights are on him, and he's got these beautiful girls
dancing behind him. That's inspiration point number one. Inspiration point
number two is after his parents end up divorced and
his mom remarries, his stepdad takes him to see James Brown.
Is rumored that he actually got went to go and
dance on stage a little bit, which is how he
got to see stuff going on backstage with the again
pretty girls. Right. And then this is a fascinating one
for me. He and his father did not get along
especially well, but he got along better with his dad
than he did with his mom once they had been divorced, Okay,
And so at some point he says to mom, Hey,
I'm gonna go live with dad. I can't handle stepdad anymore.
I can't handle you anymore. I'm gonna go live with him.
And so he's living with him. And at some point
he says, they're having woodstock and I really want to go,
and his dad says, I'll take it really yes, wow,
And so it's you know, they but his dad. One
of the things that you got to know about his
dad is that he's hyper religious. Right. That was the
big conflict between prince's mom and his dad is that
his mom wanted to go out and have a good
time and party and do crazy stuff. She wanted to
go crazy and and his dad wanted her to be
there and taking care of things and not live in
this wild, crazy lifestyle, and that led to their abusive relationship.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is he's a little bit like
his mother. She's never satisfied, and he's a little bit
like his father too.
Speaker 1: Bold. Yeah, something like that. That bomb nugget, Well that
was what I was leading up to you. Oh, okay, sorry,
I keep going, and so he can still you know, Sorry,
I lost my train. Sorry, sorry, that's right. So his dad,
being this ultra religious guy, they got to go to
church on Sunday, like, and the concerts over the weekend.
So he's like, no, and he's only going to get
to go to the last day, and so he's like,
why is church taking so long today? You know it's
long anyway, right, If you went to church in the sixties,
seventies or eighties, you know that church went way longer
than it ever should, right, And so it's taken an
extra long time today. And then they have to go
home and change clothes and he's just you know, jumping
up and down next to the car. But his dad
takes him out there and he gets to see Jimmy
Hendrix and Wowstone and third imprint moment of his life. Wow,
that's fantastic Pool. By the way, on the Jimmy Hendrix note,
Jimmy Hendrix most famous song, Yes, the Purple One.
Speaker 2: The Purple One, There you Go, which also appears in
the end of I Want a New Drug.
Speaker 1: Yeah, flashback here you lose yep, yep. Okay.
Speaker 2: So junior high and high school come around for Prince.
He grows up in Minneapolis and he forms his own band.
This band is called Grand Central. Okay, Prince is out front,
He's got this drummer behind him. Yeah, his name is
Morse Day.
Speaker 1: I've heard of that guy. Yeah. Yeah. They were a
cover band. Later on he changed up the band. They
started doing original stuff. But yes, it's interesting to note
Morris Day was the original drummer for Prince's very first band.
Speaker 2: Like their high school band. Of course I could play
drummer with Prince, and you know you could.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's give that. Okay, So he obviously goes on.
We talked about this in our past episode. He gets
himself a record deal. He makes sure that he's producing.
He demonstrates that he's got the chops to play all
the instruments and produce, and his first album doesn't really
do that great right. But one of the singles off
of that first album is Soft and Wet Yes, which
he releases on his twentieth birthday. So that song made
an imprint for a couple of other folks. One of
them's name is Wendy Melbourne, Whndy was thirteen. She said,
I can remember the day I'm thirteen, I'm underage in
this dance club in La and i hear this song
Soft and Wet start playing and I'm like, oh my gosh,
and i run over to the DJ and I'm like,
who is this girl? Who is this girl? She's like
that moment is a vivid memory for me, and I
became a huge Prince fan. This is long, long before
they ever meet, but that seed is planted and impactful
in her life. The other person that had imprinted was
Susan Rogers, who was also She was in West Hollywood.
She's on a bus and she hears this boombox coming
from the back some kid in the back of the
bus as his boombox playing soft and wet, and she's like,
I got to know more about who this guy is.
And of course she goes on to be the producer
of a huge body of his work. Yeah. We talked
about her in our Sign of the Times episode Yep. Okay.
So the other thing about that first album, though, is
it was a part of a three record deal that
he had signed right right, and they had given him
one hundred and eighty thousand dollars to record those first
three albums and he spent one hundred and seventy of
it on the first album. Oh yeah, and so he's
not doing too well.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It wasn't as big as success. Even though it influenced
those girls, it wasn't a big success for him. His
management gets bought out by these guys named Bob Cavallo
and Joe Ruffalo buy it out for fifty thousand dollars.
Cavallo and Ruffalo managed Earthwind and Fire and Ray Parker Junior,
who came up last episode if you'll remember, Yep. And
one of the guys that had working for him was
a guy named Steve Farknoley and he was just an
employee at the time, but he had worked with Sly
and the Family Stone, which Prince was a huge fan of,
and so they hit it off, and so Steve Fagnoli
became like Prince's day to day business manager and eventually
became partners with Cavallo and Ruffalo. So this is early
eighties by this time, and we've almost reached a pinnacle
point and that is the album nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Okay, so most people were familiar with nineteen ninety nine.
He had had some success off of Dirty Mind and Controversy,
but nineteen ninety nine is really where he came into
the mainstream, right, right, So he had the big hit
nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Well maybe like when it first.
Speaker 2: Got when it first came out, right, it didn't really
do that well, it's crazy. And then he puts out
Little Red Corvette and that blows up.
Speaker 1: Little Red Corvette blows up, and so they re released
nineteen ninety nine and that's when then.
Speaker 2: That blows up. Yeah, I remember sitting like riding my
school bus to like the yellow bus to school.
Speaker 1: Huh, I'll the short one, the long one.
Speaker 2: Right into school, hearing the song nineteen ninety nine and
going Wow. In the year two thousand, I'll be you know,
twenty seven, and.
Speaker 1: I think I've talked about it before, but I remember
very vividly seeing the video for Little Red Corvette. The
first time. It was when we were driving out to
California in nineteen eighty three. Yeah, yeah, to where I
watched all the Booby movies. But on on the hotel
stop along the way, the TV they had in the
hotel had MTV turned it on. There was Prince singing
Little Corvette and his boots off over as Dickerson's guitar.
Speaker 3: So up. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he's had some success, yeah, but he's not really
like movie star material, right. But he comes to the
end of this three record deal and he goes to
Bob Cavallo and he says, I want you to get
me into a movie.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Bob Cavalla is like, we've made you, like we're a
big part of why you are successful in nineteen ninety nine,
and now you're going to give us ultimatums like I've
got to get you in a movie. Yeah yeah, And
he's like, yeah, I'm not sign another deal until you
get me a movie. He's like, I don't want to
be one of your you know, mafia kind of deals.
He's like mafia. Listen, man, I owned a nightclub. I
went to Georgetown University. Okay, I'm not mafia.
Speaker 2: I read an article where Matt Fink, doctor Fink, the keyboardist,
is like talking to Prince saying, are.
Speaker 1: You sure we're big enough to do this? They're not.
They're not, they are not. I mean, if you look
at me back then it doesn't make any sense other
than Prince is Prince, and he's just determined to do it.
And so Prince had this little notebook that he would
write in and I've seen it in The Beautiful Ones.
If you want to go check out that book, you
can look at every single notebook page where Prince has
written out the story of Purple Rain. So here's the
first lines that he writes, this is the story of
the dreams and aspirations of three individuals. And then he
goes on to introduce Morse, Day, Vanity and the kid. Yeah,
you read the story, and he's got the story mapped out.
Now it is darker. His story is darker. And one
of the fantastic parts about the darkness of the story
is his parents are already dead in a murder suicide, right, yes,
and so he will have these flashbacks to the fights
that his parents were having, and in his flashbacks he
is the person playing the part of the father and
the mother, like he sees himself as father and he
sees himself as mother. And yes, go ahead.
Speaker 2: So maybe he's just like his father, like two bold,
maybe he's just like his mother.
Speaker 1: She's never satisfied.
Speaker 2: Bob Cavallo says, Okay, I'll see what I can do. Right,
So they bring in this guy named William Blynn. Yes,
he wrote for the TV show Fame. Yes, so both
of these movies have roots in Fame, correct, Yes, Okay,
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Speaker 2: So William Blynn says, okay, I'll meet with him. We'll
talk about some stuff. So he sits down with Prince.
Prince didn't talk very much. He's naturally very shyper, which
is strange when you see him on.
Speaker 1: Stage and he's sizing you up. If I've learned anything
on these first meetings that he has with people, he's
sizing them off.
Speaker 2: Well, and he does stuff to intentionally piss.
Speaker 1: You off and mess with you. Yes, for sure.
Speaker 2: So they tease out some stuff about the murder suicide
with his mom and dad. They just kind of get
an outline, and so William Blinn says, Okay, I'll go
away and I'll work on this. And he comes back.
So he keeps calling Prince saying, hey, I've got some
ideas we need to get together and write, and Prince
keeps like not just putting him off, but making appointments, canceling,
ghosting him, dodging him. So he finally gets him. He says, look,
we got to get together, and Prince says, okay, well
let's go see a movie.
Speaker 1: So he's like, fine, let's go see a movie. So
they go see a movie. They sit down twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: And Prince gets up and walks out. So William Blinn
is like, that's it. I'm out, I'm done. I'm done
with this. Well, Prince calls him later and he's like, well,
what's the problem, you know, and he's like, man, what
are you talking about? I can't work this way, and
so Prince says, look, I'm sorry, basically talk him in
coming back, right, So William blank comes back. He works
on the screenplay and when he turns it in.
Speaker 1: It's called Dreams Dreams, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Based on that first sentence that he wrote on right.
Speaker 1: So they've got the writer, but they don't have a director, right,
And Cavallo is like, he's got at least a little
bit of experience, and you know, he's done some movie
work in the past, but not much, right, But he
keeps sending it to director after director and they keep
turning him down and he's getting frustrated, and so he
ends up going to screen this movie of maybe a
potential director and the movie is called Reckless. Yeah. So
he sits down to watch this movie, Reckless.
Speaker 2: It has Aiden Quinn and Daryl Hannah. It's this kind
of James Dean type of film noir movie from the
early eighties.
Speaker 1: By the way, Daryl Hannah was one of the potential
aerial possibilities. That's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he sits down to watch this movie.
Speaker 1: He's the only one in the theater.
Speaker 2: He watches Reckless just to take a break, gets up
and as he's walking out, this young guy comes up
to him and says, well, what do you think? And
he's like, you know, I mean it's okay. I mean
it was you know, it was edited. Well, I mean
it's all right, you know, and.
Speaker 1: The kids like I did that.
Speaker 3: That was me.
Speaker 2: I'm the editor, right right. So the kid's name is
Albert Magnoli.
Speaker 1: Right, So this guy is fresh out of UC film school. Yeah,
he had he had done well, like he had, he
had directed a short film that actually won a student
oscar whatever that is. But he literally is wet behind
the ears as far as the film industry goes. This
is his first experience in film and he was the
editor and the movie's not that great.
Speaker 2: Right, right, So Cavoli's talking to him, He's like, well
it was edited, well, it seems pretty impressive. How would
you like to be associated with Prince's most picture project?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like, fantastic. I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 2: I would love to be involved the director of Reckless.
He would love to direct and will edit and it'd
be fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fully James Fully, James Fully was the director. By
the way, side note written by Chris Columbus. Get out Nope,
I'm serious, like it was. It came out just before Grimlins,
so it technically was Chris Columbus's first producer wow script.
But anyway, Yes, So James Foley, He's like, I'm excited
to work with James Foley again. So he calls up
James Foley to go, hey, I've got this guy who
wants to put us on the Prince movie. And James
Foley's like, who's Prince?
Speaker 2: Making a movie about a guy where directors are saying
who's Prince?
Speaker 1: That tells you what's going on. I mean, James Foley'
is an old guy, right, He's been directing a lot
of movies that were much older than this. But he's
like okay, let me just you know, let me get
the script for you and you can read it. And
so he gets the script, he sends it over to
James Foley. James Foley calls him back the next day.
He's like, have you read this? This is terrible. I
am not going to make this movie. Yeah. So Albert
Magnoli goes back and conveys this information to Bob Cavallo,
and Bob like throws a fett. He's like, what the heck?
You know what am I doing wrong? You know, it's
just rejection after rejection. Yeah, I think I know what
I'm doing. And he's like, well, you know, I can
take a look at it, and yeah, how about me
loongo bango?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Good for him. And so he comes back and there's
a couple it's the story is varied here. But he's like, hey,
you know, i'll pay you seventy five thousand dollars to
direct this movie. And Albert Magnall's like nope. He's like,
are you freaking kidding? Yeah, He's like, are you serious?
Right now? He's like, okay, well, I'm not going to
direct it the way that it's written. Here's my idea,
and he says, what the way he puts it is,
remember the end scene of The Godfather. Yeah, and it's
not really the end scene. It's a mid scene, but
the baptism scene for those Godfather fans out there, where
you're seeing Michael Corleone getting his child baptized, and while
all that's happening, hits are happening from person to person,
and he says, it's going to be that kind of
same like musical underlying thing, which, by the way, that
was what tied that scene together. Like Francis Fort was
about to kick that scene, but the music. I was like,
why don't you put in like organ music over the
top of all of this, And that's what made this
scene such an impactful scene. And so he says, what
we're going to do for the intro to Purple Rain
is that same idea. We're starting with the song, and
the song is going on while we're introducing all of
our characters. In these shot by shot presentations, we see
Morris Day pimping up and getting ready to come out
of his house. We see Prince on stage lighting up
the crowd, and we see Appollonia coming out of the
taxi fresh into the city and sneaking carefully into the nightclub.
Speaker 2: She bails on the cab driver and races off to
go try to get in the first albute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he won't let her. He's like, She's like,
I have a meeting with the manager, and he's like,
the manager doesn't have meetings. You're full. Yeah, and she's
like oh, and he gets distracted and she runs a
store bolts in and it's great. It's a great. That
opening scene is fantastic. I mean, you're right. You get
introduced to all.
Speaker 2: Three characters, you know who they are, you know what
they're doing, and the song is phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but we can't get into it yet. Let's not
talk about that. Before all of this happens. Obviously, while
they're still preparing, they bring Albert Magnoli over to talk
to Prince for the first time. And as far as
Prince knows, like the idea is, this is a new
director and so he's not going to be in any trouble
and he's going to shoot the script the way that
the script is written. And so when they sit down
to dinner for the very first time, Prince is like,
so what do you think about the script? And Albert
Magnoli's like, I hate it. I don't want to shoot
that movie. I would like to shoot a different movie.
And he's a very excited, like animated guy, and he
launches into what his story idea is for the movie
and goes through all of it, and Prince is like,
everybody leave and it's like, oh crap, and so like
everybody leaves and he's like, you come with me, and
they get in the car and Prince is driving silently
with Magnoli in the car and he's just like, what's
going on here? And then they take this exit like
into this pitch black you know, middle of the downtown.
You know, who knows what's going on? Prince Park's the
car and he's like what do you know about me?
And he's like what. He goes, what have you learned
about me? And he's like, I don't know what you're
talking about. He goes, listen, you just told my life
story in ten minutes, and I want to know how
you know it. And Alvin Mangler was like, it's just
the story that I had. And that is how he
became the for sure director of this movie.
Speaker 2: I thought you were getting ready to tell me that
he made him purify himself and the honors of lake manattaka.
Probably that's a fantastic story. So I've got this funny
little nugget. This is so cringe worthy I can barely
get it out of my mouth. Okay, So when the
executives are getting together to discuss the production of Purple Rain,
there's this guy named Mark Kenton, who is a Warner
Brothers executive VP at the time, and he's sitting in
this meeting and he makes the comment that, you know,
I kind of can get behind this movie Purple Rain.
I don't think Prince is big enough. How about on Travolta.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, Yeah, they bail. They're like, this is
exactly why we didn't want to do this in Hollywood.
Knew this crap would happen. And he they bail, and
they call him back and be like, we're sorry, come back,
will will be good, we promise, and so but it was.
It's something. It's interesting that at that point, despite the
fact that they had all kinds of odds against them,
I mean, not that famous yet, shooting in Minneapolis of
all places, no veteran actors in the winter, Yeah, no
veteran actors in the movie and a pretty thin script
and a brand new director. This movie should not have
seen the light.
Speaker 2: Of day, and if it did see the light of day.
Speaker 1: It should not have been a success. But it was.
Speaker 2: Well, it's because we all didn't realize who Prince was
until yeah, ple rainy. Okay, So at this point, let's
flip back to Footloose and talk about casting.
Speaker 1: That's great, Okay. Before we do that, though, I.
Speaker 2: Wanted to make mention Footloose was originally called cheek to cheek.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like an old forties like Fred Astaire
gender roches cheek.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kick off your Sunday shoes. No, I don't think
so either, But I mean really that was just kind
of a working title until they came up with footloose
and fancy free, right, and then they just you know,
shortened it down to footloose and it's perfect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah. So casting, okay, So they almost.
Speaker 2: Got Tom Cruise as Ray McCormick.
Speaker 1: And if you're forgetting that scene from Risky Business that
we all watched in nineteen eighty three where he dances
in his underwear, he might have been a phenomenal rent.
I think he could have been great.
Speaker 2: I mean, Tom Cruise, one of the biggest movie stars
of all died.
Speaker 1: But he's almost too pretty for the partner, right, and
you know who else was also pretty almost the guy too,
Rob Low, Rob Low. Rob Low pulled something like injured
himself and couldn't do the dances in his ACL.
Speaker 2: So listen to this, So they bring in Tom Cruise.
He convinces them I can do this dancing, which I'm
not sure that Tom Cruise could do the dancing, but
you know, good enough, I guess.
Speaker 1: So Tom Cruise was shooting all the right moves.
Speaker 2: He had bulked up to play a football player, and
there was some you know, additional scenes that they had
to shoot and stuff like that and would have delayed
production on Footloose. They only had a small window of time,
so even though they wanted Tom Cruise, they couldn't really
take the chance on the movie not getting made at all.
So they bring in Rob Low and he shows off
and looks good, of course and hugely charismatic actor of
our time. And he hurts his ACL injures it where.
Speaker 1: He can't dance, can't do it.
Speaker 2: So they carry him off and they're like, he's out right,
So they start looking around. Christopher Adkins, the guy from
the Blue Lagoon, almost got the part, and some say
he did get the part, but he showed up high
on the set one day and so they said, I
don't think that's a good idea. So they're bouncing around
on who to play Red. They go to a screening
the movie Diner right, which stars Kevin Bacon.
Speaker 1: Now, Kevin Bacon we've talked about before because like one
of the first things we wanted to do was do
the you know, six degrees of Kevin Bacon, because he's
become that guy. But back in nineteen eighty three, when
they're putting this movie together, he really hadn't been in much.
He was in National Lampoon's Animal House, but that was
seventy eight, yeah, and so he hadn't done a whole
lot since then. In eighty he was in Friday the Thirteenth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets a spear through the throat, right right.
Speaker 1: He was doing some stage work, and in eighty two
he ended up winning an Obie Award for forty deuce
and was in a Broadway play called Slab Boys with
a couple of guys who were unknown at that time
as well named Sean Penn and Val Kilmer. Wow, right,
that's pretty cool. And so he ends up from that
getting this part in Barry Livinson's Diner, and he's acting
with Steve Gutenberg, Daniel Stern, Mickey Rourke, Tim Day, and
Ellen Barkin. So they go see the movie and they
like you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They think he's got the right charisma, the good sort
of all Americans, sort of neutral, look what they're looking for, right,
And they're like, well, great, let's find out if he
can dance.
Speaker 1: So they call his agent and they say can he dance?
She says no. She says no, what kind of agent
are you? You're supposed to get me jobs? The answer
is yes, whatever it is, it's yes.
Speaker 2: So she says no and they say, well not even
a little, Like can we teach him? And they're like, no,
he can't dance at all. So they're like, man, back to.
Speaker 1: The drawing board.
Speaker 2: So they're they're fretting and thinking and looking around. I
can't find w Rent. And Dean Pittford has a conversation
with somebody who's like, I just can't find Rent. And
the person says, independently without this knowledge, says, well, have
you thought about Kevin Macon and he says, well, yeah,
well we thought about it, but he can't dance. He's like,
what do you talking about? I was at a party
last night. He's dancing his re rock the whole time, and.
Speaker 1: He's like, what are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they go and they rekindle those convers stations
with Kevin Bacon.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the only problem is, at this point, Kevin Bacon
gets cast as the lead role in Christine the Stephen
King Car Movie, Car Movie. Yes, And so he gets
this lead role and then they offer him a screen
test for Footloose. So the producers have to convince him
it's smarter to turn down this sure thing lead role
just to be in an audition for our maybe movie
that's remarkable. Yeah, And so he does it and thirty
seconds into the audition they said, you're our guy. And
the only problem is one of the studio producers for Paramount,
Sherry Lansing, who is an She's an icon as far
as producers go, like first woman to do one hundred
thousand things in Hollywood. But she's like, he's not sexy.
I'm not putting him in this movie. And they're like,
what we just convinced him to drop a sure thing
role he's our guy, and she's like, nope, not doing it.
Not sexy. So herb ross for like weeks has to
convince her that he's sexy, and so he does screen
test after screen test, screen test, and finally she's like, okay, fine.
Speaker 2: So the screen test, okay, yeah, let's talk about that
for a second.
Speaker 1: I thought this was remarkable.
Speaker 2: So they go and they get him some high fashion
nineteen eighty four clothing, they dress him up, they gave.
Speaker 1: Him a fifteen hundred dollars haircut.
Speaker 2: Kevin Bacan's like, what, well, what fifteen hundred bucks in
nineteen eighty three, they get the guy that's like haircut
Guy of the Stars, right, and they want to make
him look like Sting.
Speaker 1: Sting. Yeah, flashback to our Synchronicity episode.
Speaker 2: And they set the screen test to beat it by
Michael Jackson. So he's dancing around with the sting haircut
with his high fashion clothes, and that's when they're like, okay,
yeah he's it was he wearing skinny tie.
Speaker 1: Probably, And here's the deal.
Speaker 2: They had already agreed that if they don't cast Kevin Bacon,
we are not making this movie.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, it was a do or die. That's awesome.
Everything was on the line all in. So we've got
our male lead. Now we need our Angenoux, right, we
need our young Ariel.
Speaker 2: Yes, so Lurie Singer is the person that ended up
getting the role. Madonna auditioned for this. Daryl Hannah was
she in that Mermaid movie that you're talking about earlier? Yes,
it was not that Mermaid. She's in a different Mermaid
movie called Splash. Daryl Hannah almost got the part. Jennifer
Jason Lee almost got this part. Havelan Morris, if you've
ever seen sixteen Candles, Elizabeth McGovern, Melanie Griffith was interested,
Michelle Pfeiffer was interested. Nice Jamie Lee, Curtis, Meg Tilley,
Heather locklear Brookshields, Diane Lane, Lori Laughlin, Phoebe Kates all considered.
Speaker 1: So Lurie Singer her dad was a conductor and she
was a musical prodigy. She debuted as a cellist with
the Oregon Symphony when she was thirteen years old, and
then got accepted to Juilliard, where she became, like her
the youngest graduate from Juilliard. And then she decides, hey,
I'm going to do some modeling, and the modeling turns
into getting cast in this tea TV series that we
just mentioned a couple times called Fame. It all goes
back to Fame. She plays the part of Julie Miller,
who is a teenage dancer and cellist from nineteen eighty
two to nineteen eighty three, and that is what gets
her in front of them to be our aerial fantastic.
Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned Sean Penn earlier. Yep, the part of
Willard goes to Chris Penn, Shawn Friend's brother.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: The funny thing about this he cannot dance, not.
Speaker 1: At all, not a lick, not a bit like Kevin
Bacon was said not to dance. He really can't dance
like Kevin Bacon said that. He showed up to the
dancing class with a cigarette in one hand and a
Pepsi in the other, was trying to do the dances,
and they're like, could you put that out? She was seventeen, Wow, seventeen, which,
by the way, I think Kevin Bacon was twenty four
when he did this. Right, in seventy eight, he's playing
a college kid, and in eighty before he's playing a
high school. The fact that he couldn't dance was made
a part of the movie. That's great, and it's possibly
the best part of the movie. I mean, it's it's
iconic that time that they're training him, the montage scene
where they're teaching him how to dance. I mean, that's huge.
That's a huge part of the whole storyline.
Speaker 2: And I think it's huge because for guys like me
who can't dance, Yeah, there's somebody in the movie that
I can relate to and be a part of and
take the ride with.
Speaker 1: Yep. Okay, so we've got our male lead, we've got
our female lead, we've got our best friend, and now
we need our quotation Mark's villain. And so for that
part we have John Lithgow. Here's what I know about
that part. Okay.
Speaker 2: So Dean Pitchford went and saw this play on Broadway
called Beyond Therapy, Okay, and that starred John Lithgow and
Diane Weist, and Dean Pitchford loved their chemistry on stage together,
and he's like, I got a perfect thing. We'll get
both of those as the preacher and his wife.
Speaker 1: Brilliant. And I didn't realize what a stud John lithgow
Is I mean beyond the fact that you know Harry
and the Henderson's and Third Rock from the Sun and yeah,
I mean all of those movies obviously. But he graduated
from Harvard with an ab Macna Coomb Laudie what He
got a full right scholarship, and he had a chance
to go to the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art.
From there he went to train in New York stage,
beginning a distinguished career on Broadway. In seventy three he
got his first Tony Award, and then in seventy nine
he was cast in one of his earliest screen roles,
All That Jazz by our friend Bob Fosse. Real quick
on Diane Weist.
Speaker 2: Yes, she does a wonderful job of being strong but
sort of in the background, supporting her husband, supporting her
daughter and doing what's right. Diane Weist flashback to Our
Lost Boys episode. Ye, he's almost unrecognizable Preacher's wife. Okay,
one more quick one, I want to talk about real
quick before we move on. Sarah Jessica Parker plays the
part of Rusty.
Speaker 1: You met a woman named Rusty?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't either, okay, but that part originally went
to Tracy Nelson, who was her co star on the
show Square Pegs.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Apparently Tracy Nelson had some sort of family difficulties back home,
and when they got on set, they realized pretty quickly
she needs to be back home. They called Sarah Jessica
Parker and she said, great, all right, let's flip back
to Purple Rain and talk about casting for Purple Rain.
Speaker 1: Right, So, the part of the kid was to be
played by Prince now John Travolta, not John Travolta, you guys,
I'm going home. So and the part of Morris Day
they found a guy with the exact same name who
happened to know Prince, So that was lucky.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yes, And then the part of Apollonia was supposed to
be played by Vanity. Vanity was Princess's girlfriend at the time. Yep.
Speaker 2: She had been involved in his rock group called Vanity six,
who had a couple of hits, and.
Speaker 1: We talked about her in a little bit of detail
on our Motley Cruz did do a good episode right
there's she plays a prominent part in Nicky Six's heroin Diaries.
By the way didn't occur to me the whole time
that I read that book. They were engaged. Had she
married Nicky six, she would have become Vanity six. That
would have been pretty cool. That had been a little weird.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, like you said, the miraculous journey that Purple
Rain makes from paper to screen, it's really amazing because
you finally convinced a writer to come up for Yep,
you finally convinced somebody to produce this thing. Prince is like,
I want to be a movie star, and they're like okay.
And then as soon as you get like the plane
is coming off the ground and.
Speaker 1: We're actually going to do this, the leading lady quins, Yeah.
She and Prince were obviously having a fallen out, which
was a part of it. But she had had acting experience, right,
she had been in a few movies. This is kind
of this weird situation where this kind of bit part
player is the one with the most experience of that
they got that they've got there, and so she was like,
I need more money than you guys are offering me,
and I're like, you're not that good, right, And there's
talk that she was supposed to play Mary Magdalen in
the Last Temptation of Christ, which I mean, yes, if
you're going to go work with Martin Scorsese as opposed
to the first time director out of us college. Yeah, yes,
you would go do that. But I think it was
just kind of talks and then that didn't happen. So yeah,
so she missed out. Yes, and let's not forget she
was also drug out a little crazy.
Speaker 2: Here's her quote regarding Prince in Purple Rain. Yeah, I
needed one person to love me, and he needed more.
So now they're on the look for who's going to
play the leading lady, right, So they audition up to
five hundred actresses. But this includes people like Jennifer bils
From who had done the movie Flash Dance, right, Na,
people's Gina Gersham.
Speaker 1: All of these people look very similar, dark hair, dark eyes, well,
Gina Gershon. Gina Gershon wasn't anything at that point either. No,
she's mega hutt. Yeah she still couldn't say Showgirls though, No,
she couldn't. No, no she could.
Speaker 2: So they auditioned this girl named Patricia Kotero, who had
been a La Rams cheerleader.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd been in a couple of movies and again.
Bit Parts was married at the time, but was also
having a pretty interesting romance with our friend David Lee
Roth flashback to our Van Halen episodes. Yeah, and so
she was bound and determined to become a movie star.
But for this part, unlike everyone else who showed up
in you know, eighteen inch heels and skin tight leather,
she showed up in jogging pants and no, maga, I
don't really understand that. But okay, yeah, but they're like, Okay,
this girl is different and looks good, and so let's
have her meet Prince. Her parents are both immigrants from Mexico,
so she's fluent in Spanish.
Speaker 2: So after her audition, Prince likes her and they fly
her out to Minneapolis. Well, his bodyguard's name is Chick.
Speaker 1: He's a big guy. He's actually in purple rain. You
can see him a couple of times.
Speaker 2: And he goes to her and he says he likes your,
like he really likes you, and she's like, wow, you
really think, I mean, is this gonna happen?
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, he wants to take you out.
Speaker 2: So they go out and go dinner and dancing, and
so they go to First Avenue.
Speaker 1: Uh, huh. And when they get there, I guess who's there? Vanity?
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, oh crap, Vanity's here.
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen? Is she gonna freak out go crazy?
And no, just stood there glaring from the side.
Speaker 2: So Prince was wanting to see how she was going
to react, probably messing with Vanity as well. After that
night out, He's like, this is my girl.
Speaker 1: I can work with this girl. Sidebar, sidebar. So she
ends up seeking out Vanity to make friends with her, right,
and they become friends and at some point they get
together for lun and Vanity is like, so, you know,
are you doing any more movies? What have you got
going on? And she's and Apollonia is like, oh yeah,
I got the female part in this movie called The
Last Dragon. And Vanity's like, it's up. What walks over
to the phone and she's like she could hear her
screaming at somebody on the phone, comes back, sits down
and as it turns out, she didn't have that part
because Vanny got it. Yeah. By the way, we should
back up. Her name is Patricia.
Speaker 2: She went by Patty Yeah, Patti Cato, not quite as
strong a stage name as Apollonia.
Speaker 1: Right, Apollonia again comes from Godfather. Godfather. Yeah, the pretty
Italian bride that Michael Corleone had unfortunately gets blown up.
Speaker 2: So he goes to Patty Yeah, and he's like, I
see you more as a one name type of girl.
So last name gone.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna call you Apollonia. She's like, whatever you
say sounds good, sounds good. Let's do this. So Appollonia's
six initially had this song that you might have heard
of called Manic Munda.
Speaker 3: Was just sing.
Speaker 1: You know, I listened to it on the way here today.
Yes to that version.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a demo, so it's not polished like it
should be. But the Bengals is way better, especially the
bridge in the middle.
Speaker 1: Well, she just did an interview last month and for
the first time she came out and said, I helped
Prince write the song Manic Monday. She's gotten no writing credits, like,
I never asked for it and never wanted it. He
was going to do things, he was going to fix things.
Just before he died. Who knows I've gotten you know,
It's it's suspicious to say the least, but it's interesting
that in their interactions together she comes up with this
and that Appolonia six records a version of it. But
she also said she's the one that turned Prince onto
Susanna Hoffs for the first time. Yeah, like she was
a Suzannah Hoffs fan, enjoyed her music. And of course
when he sees Suzannah Hoffs like in the video, she's
wearing like this made uniform or whatever, and he's like, oh, yeah,
I can work. So that was that was how he
took that song and gave it to the Bangles. Oh yeah,
there are a couple more casting things that we need
to talk about. So the only actors that had acting
experience in this movie Apollonia, Yes, and the mom and
the Dad. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say Apolloni was in a
TV show that I used to love as a kid
that I barely remember. But it's based on Raiders of
the Lost Ark. It's called Tales of a Gold Monkey.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that show? No, So mom is played
by Olga Carlatos who really hasn't been in much else
but the dad. The dad is Clarence Williams, the Third
who just last week passed away tragic, but he was
link on the mod Squad. He was the cool guy
on the mod squad, Lincoln whatever his last name was Link. Yeah,
he was just this just cool dude. And I gotta
say his performance in this movie is Oscar worthy in
my opinion. It's really he does such a good job
with this movie.
Speaker 2: He adds the depth and the emotion and the anger
and the rage that this really the crux of the
story depends on. Yeah, and the scene where he's slapping
the mom around, which as a kid, of course, I
saw it a thousand times because I watched the Wind
Doves Cry video a billion times. Right, he's like slapping
her around. Prince comes in and he shoves him to
the floor. At the time, I remember thinking, man, he's
really beating her up.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's just very intense acting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you can't actually beat the actors up. They
don't like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's it for this week's episode, Purple Rain
versus Footloose.
Speaker 1: Come back next week. Yeah, be sure, right now, right now,
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That's right.
Speaker 2: We only have three weeks left on our summer of
eighty four after this week.
Speaker 1: Next week we're going to finish.
Speaker 2: Up the movie comparison, and then we're going to go
track by track through both of these albums.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah's the mojogl Jana
Speaker 1: Jungle