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Speaker 2: App Live in Chicago for the Democratic National Convention Day three.
Speaker 1: Did you know that every state delegation had its own
Speaker 1: walk up song last night? Some of them making sense,
Speaker 1: some of them not making sense. We'll get into it.
Speaker 1: For example, Arkansas's walk up song was Don't Stop by
Speaker 1: Fleetwood Mac reference to President Clinton, who used this as
Speaker 1: a campaign song in nineteen ninety two. A little call
Speaker 1: back there, of course, Clinton coming from Arkansas. One that
Speaker 1: did not make as much sense. Sweet Home Alabama for
Speaker 1: Alabama by Lynyrd Skinnyard. It's a nice name, it's a
Speaker 1: nice tune, but the lyrics were in response to a
Speaker 1: song by Neil Young that decried the legacy of slavery
Speaker 1: in the Jim Crow South.
Speaker 3: So I don't know many leave that one out.
Speaker 4: They didn't read about that.
Speaker 2: Tonight, of course, is going to be a huge coming
Speaker 2: out party for Governor Tim Walls, for him to introduce
Speaker 2: himself not just to Democrats, but Independence and anybody who
Speaker 2: will listen.
Speaker 1: He seems like he's going to be the attack dog
Speaker 1: for the Democrats joining.
Speaker 2: Us now to talk more about this and what other
Speaker 2: things we can expect tonight. Alex Gangatano from the Hill. Alex,
Speaker 2: thanks again for taking time for us today.
Speaker 5: Hi from Chicago. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: It sounds like you're right next door to us, and
Speaker 2: you probably are so so Tim Walls, I read this
Speaker 2: earlier today. Tim Walls had to tell the Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: campaign that until they called him, he had never used
Speaker 2: a teleprompter before in any speech that he's ever given.
Speaker 2: What are we going to expect from from the governor tonight?
Speaker 5: That's right, His stories like that are you know. I
Speaker 5: covered Tim Wats when he was a member of Congress
Speaker 5: years ago, and I was covering Congress and he was
Speaker 5: someone who would talk to the press and he would
Speaker 5: always be chatting with other lawmakers. He really is just
Speaker 5: authentically Tim Wallas and is happy to just chat with
Speaker 5: whoever you know, wants to hear from him. And so
Speaker 5: I'm not surprised by that telepropter comment because he just,
Speaker 5: you know, speaks like a He's a teacher and a
Speaker 5: coach and someone who just speaks off the cups. So
Speaker 5: you know, tonight he'll have to practice his telepropter skills
Speaker 5: before his big speech. But I think it's going to
Speaker 5: be a mix of both his authenticity, his Midwestern charm tonight,
Speaker 5: but also this attack dog role that he's taking on.
Speaker 5: I think Harris really wanted him on the ticket because
Speaker 5: of the way that he can just simply and bluntly
Speaker 5: talk about Donald Trump and Senator Vance, you know, calling
Speaker 5: them weird. Like he doesn't get too in the weeds
Speaker 5: about you know, policy or or why he you know,
Speaker 5: uh thinks these people are a threat to democracy or
Speaker 5: whatever else, which is kind of the tactic that Biden
Speaker 5: had taken on against them, but instead just uh try
Speaker 5: to just attack them on really you know, simple terms
Speaker 5: that he hopes that Americans can resonate with. So we'll see,
Speaker 5: you know what his introduction also of to America is
Speaker 5: this is like one of the first times a lot
Speaker 5: of voters are going to hear from him. And so
Speaker 5: how much will he explain his background? I think they're
Speaker 5: going to play up that he was.
Speaker 6: A coach a lot.
Speaker 5: That's something that they find really fun, his Midwestern background
Speaker 5: and just again try to be as you know, charming
Speaker 5: and authentic as he can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the themes here has been happy warriors.
Speaker 1: When we went to the California delegates breakfast yesterday, that's
Speaker 1: a phrase we kept hearing repeatedly from people.
Speaker 3: We're all just happy warriors, and so he's got to
Speaker 3: kind of be a happy attack.
Speaker 5: Dog, right, That's right, that's his thing. He's joyful. He's
Speaker 5: a happy warrior. But he's also someone who's not afraid
Speaker 5: to call out, you know, something from you know, Vans,
Speaker 5: and so it's a balance that he's been able to strike. Whereas,
Speaker 5: you know, I think it also power back lence is
Speaker 5: Harris a bit. You know, Harris is.
Speaker 7: Serious and wants to show that she's focused on policy
Speaker 7: and she's you know, focused on preserving democracy, which is
Speaker 7: something that her boss Center or President Biden was so
Speaker 7: is so focused on as well, Whereas Walls.
Speaker 5: Can be kind of this you know, joyful warrior, happy
Speaker 5: warrior persona, and so far, I think it's working for them.
Speaker 5: When you see them on the trail together, they do
Speaker 5: kind of balance out one another.
Speaker 2: You said that he seems to be the one that's
Speaker 2: going to go after h Trump in vance, and he's
Speaker 2: going to use the words like weird and creepy and
Speaker 2: not get bogged down with policy discussions if you know him,
Speaker 2: is he capable of having those policy discussions?
Speaker 4: Is he, you know, a policy wonk when he needs
Speaker 4: to be?
Speaker 5: You know he is. During the Obama administration, when he
Speaker 5: was serving in Congress, he was from a heavy agriculture
Speaker 5: district in Minnesota and was really serious about, you know,
Speaker 5: pushing back on some more progressive climate agenda items that
Speaker 5: Obama was pushing at the time, ones that you know,
Speaker 5: he wanted to push back on them in order to
Speaker 5: defend farmers from his district. So he definitely when it's
Speaker 5: time to get in the weeds when it comes to
Speaker 5: defending his district in particular, Minnesota now in particular, and
Speaker 5: then I guess the whole country if he becomes vice president,
Speaker 5: he does get into the weeds. I think we're going
Speaker 5: to hear him talk a lot about what he's done
Speaker 5: in Minnesota for migrants. He made college tuition free for immigrants,
Speaker 5: what kind of you know, standards he expects that should
Speaker 5: happen across the board nationally to support immigrants. And then
Speaker 5: we are going to hear him talk a lot about
Speaker 5: reproductive rice. He's talked about his imfertility challenges yes, he
Speaker 5: did mention that he him and his wife went through
Speaker 5: IVF when really they went through another form of infertility treatment.
Speaker 5: Whereas that's something that now he's been attacked from Republicans on.
Speaker 5: So I think he's going to get a little more
Speaker 5: in the weeds about that to try to defend that,
Speaker 5: but also in the weeds about you know that we
Speaker 5: need more legislation to support women who are having fertility challenges.
Speaker 5: Just across the board.
Speaker 1: Alex Gangitano is our guest. She writes for The Hill
Speaker 1: White House Correspondent. And do you think anyone's going to
Speaker 1: bring up Gaza tonight or tomorrow?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a big question. So tomorrow, I think that
Speaker 5: Vice President Harris definitely has to bring it up. I
Speaker 5: think she will in short term.
Speaker 6: We in a short.
Speaker 5: Kind of quick way of doing it. We heard from
Speaker 5: President Biden when he brought it up. It was like
Speaker 5: two or three lines on it. He said that he,
Speaker 5: you know, respects the protesters outside in Chicago during his speech,
Speaker 5: but also that you know, before the ceasefire deal has
Speaker 5: to be you know, agreed to so that this war
Speaker 5: can end. I think we're going to see Harris acknowledge it.
Speaker 5: Do that same kind of in that same kind of way,
Speaker 5: but at the same time, she doesn't want to distract
Speaker 5: from other issues like the economy and abortion that she's
Speaker 5: really ready to talk about.
Speaker 1: Not for her.
Speaker 5: If we will hear Tim Walls talk about it, he's
Speaker 5: definitely in a phase right now trying to navigate how
Speaker 5: to discuss it. Minnesota is a big Arab and Muslim
Speaker 5: American population state, and he's, you know, navigating how to
Speaker 5: speak about it in broad terms nationally when he's used
Speaker 5: to knew Minnesota politics. But you know, we could maybe
Speaker 5: hear a Bill Clinton talk about it, or another more
Speaker 5: seasoned Democrat who can speak, you know, in broad terms
Speaker 5: on a national level about it. So I'm sure it
Speaker 5: will come up in one sense, but I think if
Speaker 5: it doesn't tonight, it definitely will tomorrow with the Vice President,
Speaker 5: because I do think she just has to address it.
Speaker 2: Alex, great stuff, Thanks for taking time for us today.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Alex Agan Chatano there again from the bill she mentioned.
Speaker 2: Tim Walls, of course, is going to be the keynote.
Speaker 4: She mentioned.
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, former president is going to speak. Transportation Secretary
Speaker 2: Pete Bootage is going to speak boot Edge Edge, I
Speaker 2: don't know if this brings as much energy as last night.
Speaker 1: No, it does not. Nothing's going to compare to the Obama.
Speaker 4: There's got to be a drop off.
Speaker 2: Yes, tonight here in Chicago, and a longtime friend of
Speaker 2: the show, I like to say, Oh, Kennedy. I hear
Speaker 2: Kennedy Saves the World podcast and all over Fox products,
Speaker 2: and she's here as well to will for moral support.
Speaker 4: I assume for us that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice when we see friends here and we
Speaker 1: can just grab them and then it feels like home,
Speaker 1: right because we get to see you all the time
Speaker 1: on television. Also feeling like home. And when you're away
Speaker 1: in a foreign city for many.
Speaker 3: Days, did you bring your passport? A little?
Speaker 5: Home?
Speaker 3: Feels good?
Speaker 1: It really does it, does it?
Speaker 4: Does you know?
Speaker 1: I saw Morgan Wood from the Black Information Network this
Speaker 1: morning in the lobby and she was eating a a
Speaker 1: cup of noodle and I said to myself, gosh, darn,
Speaker 1: that looks delightful.
Speaker 3: It looks like comfort.
Speaker 1: And you right now are the physical form of the
Speaker 1: cup of noodles. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Less sodium slightly.
Speaker 8: You know, it's higher than you'd think, but lower than advertised.
Speaker 4: So we've okay, we've been talking before.
Speaker 2: Yesterday we actually talked with former mayor Lori Lightfoot.
Speaker 4: She was describing what she saw.
Speaker 2: On Monday Night's events, that the tablet of speakers and
Speaker 2: how energetic the room was.
Speaker 4: Last night.
Speaker 2: The Obamas speak and they take it up a little
Speaker 2: bit more from what Monday Night was. I don't know
Speaker 2: if Tim Wallas is going to bring the same kind
Speaker 2: of energy tonight.
Speaker 3: What are we folks?
Speaker 4: What do we take?
Speaker 3: I have a fun Tim wall story.
Speaker 8: Okay, So there is a Pennsylvania delegate who does not
Speaker 8: live in Pennsylvania and is not from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's legal.
Speaker 1: She didn't seem to think it was legal.
Speaker 8: And she told a crowded vehicle full of people that
Speaker 8: she was a dee I hire for the Pennsylvania delegation.
Speaker 8: And then someone showed her a picture and said, is
Speaker 8: this Tim Walls? And she said, I don't really know
Speaker 8: what he looks like. To me, He's just the generic
Speaker 8: white guy.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that brings true for me for every protest
Speaker 1: I've ever covered with labor organizations, where you go and
Speaker 1: they're all wearing the same T shirt and they have
Speaker 1: the same box lunch and you're like, hey, what are
Speaker 1: you doing here? What are you fighting for? And they're like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just got on the bus here.
Speaker 1: I was just lost here. I have no idea what
Speaker 1: I'm doing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, they've just been It's like those buses are
Speaker 8: the small intestine of the progressive movement. They just sort
Speaker 8: of move the crap around from one convention to the
Speaker 8: next protest.
Speaker 1: But the optics are good because when you see those
Speaker 1: protests with everyone in the same T shirt, you think, wow, unity,
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what this whole thing has been
Speaker 1: this week is just optics and the movie that they're
Speaker 1: screening for the whole country.
Speaker 3: And it's so joyful.
Speaker 8: It's so joyful, and those policy positions are just impressive,
Speaker 8: really drilling down on the economic message.
Speaker 4: When is she going to do an interview? When is
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris going to do an interview with anybody?
Speaker 8: Well, you know, we hear she's not doing the Fox
Speaker 8: News debate, which I think would be very very good
Speaker 8: for her to expose herself to those critical independent voters
Speaker 8: in swing states who hate.
Speaker 3: Everyone and they don't know where they land to be.
Speaker 3: We're not getting any exposure at all.
Speaker 1: She's not exposing her forearms to us now, Like she
Speaker 1: came out on.
Speaker 4: A political birkop it is and.
Speaker 3: It's hot in here.
Speaker 1: August eighth, she came out and she said I'll do
Speaker 1: it by the end of the month.
Speaker 3: That was on the eighth, Like, that's ridiculous, it's now
Speaker 3: the twenty first.
Speaker 1: Just sit down, just run to a microphone anywhere and
Speaker 1: just get it out of the way. Yes, I mean,
Speaker 1: don't you think that she's been like in a boot camp,
Speaker 1: like figuring out how to answer questions.
Speaker 3: Off the cuff.
Speaker 8: Yes, And so they have these prepackaged, scripted teleprompter events
Speaker 8: so people her surrogates can come out and go, I
Speaker 8: think she's doing amazing, right, Like she's better on the
Speaker 8: stump than I've ever seen her. And it's like yes,
Speaker 8: because she has freestyle one sentence about Joe Biden getting
Speaker 8: some hostages released.
Speaker 4: From Russian prisons.
Speaker 8: It was it was like a sentence and a half
Speaker 8: and she still managed to completely biff that.
Speaker 2: I wonder she's looking for the boys bathroom to put
Speaker 2: those tampons.
Speaker 1: No tapsco run, Wait, what's wearing on? Where are the fellas?
Speaker 1: Oscar go find out what's going on with those tampons.
Speaker 8: Seriously going to I hope she's a rabble rouser and
Speaker 8: during the Walls speech she's gonna be like she's just
Speaker 8: going But you know what, this, this this ticket is
Speaker 8: leaning so much into they're probably going to have dancing
Speaker 8: male tampons on the stage during his speech and it's
Speaker 8: probably going to.
Speaker 3: Be that French pole vaulter if you know what.
Speaker 1: Man, that was a lot okay, really was.
Speaker 2: But in the event that, are you going to stick
Speaker 2: around for Tomorrow night too?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: I will be here.
Speaker 8: I'm actually I'm covering this for the Daily Mail, where
Speaker 8: I'm a Cools.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 1: I love the Daily Mail the joy it brings to
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: Then did you think they messed up I having Biden
Speaker 2: go on Monday night as opposed to Thursday night to introduce.
Speaker 4: I think that.
Speaker 1: I think that Joe Biden isn't happy with that.
Speaker 8: I think everyone else is pretty delighted because, like Kamala's
Speaker 8: first interview, they just wanted to get that one out
Speaker 8: of the way.
Speaker 1: Hey Kennedy, who was more pissed off Biden or Gavin
Speaker 1: Newsom last night? Oh my gosh, I mean, did he
Speaker 1: not just look pissed off.
Speaker 8: So his whole thing like he has to pretend like
Speaker 8: he's really excited for Kamala I win. There is no
Speaker 8: one in the country who is more excited about the
Speaker 8: prospect of a Kamala Harris lost, maybe Donald Trump or
Speaker 8: Don Trump Junior, like he really wants her to lose.
Speaker 8: Gavin Newsom is crossing his fingers and his toes and
Speaker 8: his veneers like anything he can well.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why he went to that encampment in
Speaker 1: La and started ruining that must man's.
Speaker 3: Life is because he needs attention. You know, he's throwing
Speaker 3: a tantrum.
Speaker 1: It's like he the idea that they could win, Kamala
Speaker 1: could win, and then sitting there for another four years,
Speaker 1: his window is closing.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that's that's eight years of irrelevancy because after her,
Speaker 8: because I.
Speaker 3: Think she has a very good chance of winning.
Speaker 8: After her, there they will need a palate cleanser, so
Speaker 8: they will need like the canalope sorbet after Kama hair
Speaker 8: So a Republican will absolutely be elected probably for eight
Speaker 8: years after her. So Newsome, if she wins, he has
Speaker 8: done done. Yeah, And it's like I know he's like
Speaker 8: young by comparison.
Speaker 3: But he's just insufferable.
Speaker 4: Oh, he's horrible.
Speaker 1: Who is that person?
Speaker 3: Even? Like, who is that guy?
Speaker 8: I don't know if it goes She's the guy who
Speaker 8: closes school for everyone, but sends his kids to school.
Speaker 8: He's the guy who closes restaurants for good, so mom
Speaker 8: and pop restaurants go.
Speaker 3: Out of business.
Speaker 8: Forever, so he can eat his his flog with pineapple
Speaker 8: foam at the French laundry, which is joke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, singer is like a nineties reference.
Speaker 4: This is this is my vineyard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got a vineyard because that's such a man
Speaker 3: of the people. He had a pet order for christ Sike.
Speaker 3: Can I say that on the radio?
Speaker 4: Which one the order?
Speaker 3: The Christ part?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And you can here you can, okay, well for Christi
Speaker 2: Kennedy Oliver Fox. You can also find the column on
Speaker 2: a dailymail dot com.
Speaker 4: Thanks appreciate it.
Speaker 8: Great to see an action.
Speaker 3: Look at Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1: Great to see you.
Speaker 4: That's thanks.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: Looks like.
Speaker 2: Gary and Shannon kf I am six forty live everywhere
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Speaker 1: One of my girlfriends that I went to college with says,
Speaker 1: I watched your guys's news Nation interview. Loved it, but
Speaker 1: I love that you took Gary into the gender neutral
Speaker 1: bathrooms even more.
Speaker 4: And by the way, haven't been back, have not been back.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've got this.
Speaker 2: We've got a kind of a secret bathroom that's back
Speaker 2: here in the corner that nobody really goes to. Every
Speaker 2: time I've gone in there, it's been empty, at least
Speaker 2: the men's side.
Speaker 3: Yesterday.
Speaker 1: The women's was not empty when I went in there.
Speaker 2: Some stories that are going on outside the United Center
Speaker 2: here in Chicago. Pro Palestinian protesters are expected to continue today.
Speaker 2: Last night, at least seventy two people now arrested at
Speaker 2: the protests. The Chicago Police superintendent has said that somewhere
Speaker 2: between fifty and sixty were arrested during this morning, sorry,
Speaker 2: during this briefing this morning, but a bunch of them
Speaker 2: came from out of town.
Speaker 4: They said. Three journalists were among those.
Speaker 2: Arrested, and the Chicago chapter of the National Lawyers Guild
Speaker 2: said that the police officers acted aggressively. Yeah, that the
Speaker 2: police response was aggressive, and that people were surrounded, corralled,
Speaker 2: and that it was nearly impossible for them to leave.
Speaker 1: Kelly Meyer is the Washington correspondent for News Nation covering
Speaker 1: the White House, the campaign trail, the Pentagon spaced out
Speaker 1: of DC and Kelly, it seems like you've been able
Speaker 1: to dig up some information about what we could see
Speaker 1: leading up to Tim Walls's remarks tonight.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, and you can probably hear some of it here.
Speaker 6: I'm inside the United Center in Chicago where the DNC
Speaker 6: is taking place, and right now they're going through Mike
Speaker 6: checks and walkthroughs of the performance tonight. So that's what
Speaker 6: happens through today here as we're doing live shops for
Speaker 6: News Nation, this is happening behind the scenes. We've already
Speaker 6: seen Marylynd Governor West Moore come up and kind of
Speaker 6: do his walkthrough. Cindy Kaling is the celebrity host for tonight,
Speaker 6: but the main headlines here are former President Bill Clinton
Speaker 6: will be speaking there tonight, and then Tim Walls, the
Speaker 6: running mate for Kamala Harris, will be introducing himself to
Speaker 6: the country. He's the governor of Minnesota and this certainly
Speaker 6: be the biggest stage of his political career and of
Speaker 6: his life that he will be speaking on here tonight.
Speaker 2: One of the expectations is that Tim Walls does basically
Speaker 2: do this introduction to not just the members of the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party who may not be very familiar with him,
Speaker 2: but also independent voters and anybody else who might still
Speaker 2: be looking for a candidate to support.
Speaker 4: Is he good at that? Is he good at introducing himself?
Speaker 4: Does he have that personality? Yeah, that's the big.
Speaker 6: Question because a lot of people know Kamala Harris because
Speaker 6: she was introduced to the country as vice president with
Speaker 6: President Joe Biden. A lot of people don't know who
Speaker 6: Tim Walls is. So this is his chance to not
Speaker 6: only introduce himself his resume. He was a former high
Speaker 6: school social studies teacher, He was a former high school
Speaker 6: football coach. He had twenty four years of Army reserve.
Speaker 6: He also was a public sermon in the House for
Speaker 6: twelve years and then now as governor of Minnesota in
Speaker 6: his second term. But as you mentioned, how is he
Speaker 6: also going to talk to those independent models voters. So
Speaker 6: when he was in the House, he won that seat
Speaker 6: which was held by Republicans for over one hundred years,
Speaker 6: so he had experience in kind of making compromises being
Speaker 6: a blue congressman in a very red district. So how
Speaker 6: can he bring that to the table and maybe also
Speaker 6: reaching to bring in more, you know, white men who
Speaker 6: the Democratic Party may have trouble or have had trouble
Speaker 6: bringing kind of in in the last couple of years
Speaker 6: as they've kind of moved over more towards Trump.
Speaker 1: Kelly, we're kind of on the concourse here at the
Speaker 1: United Center. It seems like it's not as buzzy as
Speaker 1: it was yesterday ahead of the Obamas coming to town.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that got a lot of attention, especially,
Speaker 6: you know, I was inside the room as it was happening.
Speaker 6: As Michelle came out, the room rose to their feet,
Speaker 6: loved her speech, and then obviously former President Barack Obama
Speaker 6: followed her and said he made the mistake of following Michelle.
Speaker 6: So they got a lot of attention, a lot of applause,
Speaker 6: a lot of excitement. And that's interesting because especially what
Speaker 6: they were trying to hit on was trying to hone
Speaker 6: in on the same energy that they brought when they
Speaker 6: came in two thousand and eight. They said they're feeling
Speaker 6: that same thing right now, so they're really trying to
Speaker 6: bring back that Obama era excitement into the party and
Speaker 6: kind of inject that in, which is an interesting take
Speaker 6: on all of this because you do still have President
Speaker 6: Biden you know here and Harris serving in that administration,
Speaker 6: but also doing this delicate dance of trying to push
Speaker 6: the party forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this, and to your point, I think this is
Speaker 2: the letdown day it could be. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know what Tim Wallas is going to bring, but I
Speaker 2: don't see the Bill Clinton, Pete buddhaj Edge, Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 2: lineup as being as exciting as the Obamas were last night.
Speaker 6: Well, you know what I was talking about Bill Clinton
Speaker 6: on News Nation today and kind of going back through
Speaker 6: his old speeches, he has I think the most reps
Speaker 6: on this stage. This is his twelfth consecutive Democratic Convention speech.
Speaker 6: He has a lot of famous ones. Obviously he's older.
Speaker 6: Now we'll see how he delivers this one, but he
Speaker 6: always has delivered very famous speeches here at these conventions.
Speaker 6: So I'm interested to hear what he has to say
Speaker 6: and if he kind of bring that energy out here tonight.
Speaker 6: But he's been speaking here since nineteen eighty eight, over
Speaker 6: the last thirty six years, and then of course Tim Walls,
Speaker 6: he does have that energy people are seeing on the trail.
Speaker 6: We'll see if he brings that here tonight and gets
Speaker 6: the same kind of reaction, But to follow the Obamas
Speaker 6: is definitely had a hard task.
Speaker 1: Kelly Meyer, Washington correspondent for a News Nation. Excellent reporting
Speaker 1: per usual. Thanks for your time, Thank.
Speaker 2: You guys, and when you get a chance, come out out.
Speaker 4: And say hi.
Speaker 2: We'll be out here on the concourse, live everywhere on
Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. We're live at the United Center in
Speaker 2: Chicago for day three of the Democratic National Convention. We
Speaker 2: saw the Obamas, both Michelle and Barack last night speaking
Speaker 2: and very well received. I guess you could say because
Speaker 2: of the audience's reaction to them was pretty amazing. Tonight,
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be somewhat of a letdown,
Speaker 2: at least from those two speakers. Because Bill Clinton, Pete Bootage,
Speaker 2: Edge Governor Tim Walls, of course the vice presidential nominee,
Speaker 2: he will be the keynote speaker.
Speaker 4: We'll see what he brings.
Speaker 2: I've never seen him probably, Kelly mentioned Kelly Meyer from
Speaker 2: News Nation. This is arguably the biggest speech is given
Speaker 2: in his life, so we'll see.
Speaker 4: How he brings it tonight. A couple developing stories.
Speaker 2: Number one is that former President Trump and his vice presidential.
Speaker 4: Running mate j A.
Speaker 2: D Vance are in North Carolina today giving an outdoor
Speaker 2: rally and a speech specifically dedicated to national security.
Speaker 3: You've seen all.
Speaker 1: The bulletproof glass that surrounds the former president.
Speaker 3: You've seen the memes.
Speaker 1: Well, it looks odd, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me of the setup for the inauguration
Speaker 2: when they've got a bulletproof glass in front of the
Speaker 2: President and.
Speaker 4: Vice president there on the steps of the Capitol.
Speaker 2: This obviously not the steps of the Capitol, but basically
Speaker 2: surrounded by bulletproof glass. The other story is Robert F.
Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior on Friday is going to make a speech
Speaker 2: about his path forward in the presidential race.
Speaker 3: So we'll pick his horse, which will be Trump.
Speaker 4: Sounds like it.
Speaker 2: The Press Secretary Stephanie Spear for the Kennedy campaign posted
Speaker 2: the announcement, said the present historic moment and his path
Speaker 2: forward on social.
Speaker 4: Media will come. The announcement comes just.
Speaker 2: After yesterday when we talked about it in the twelve
Speaker 2: o'clock hour. Kennedy's running mate, Nicole Shanahan blasted Democrats, saying
Speaker 2: that she fully supports a role for Kennedy in a
Speaker 2: future Trump administration and hinted that they could end their
Speaker 2: campaign and throw their support entirely behind former President Trump.
Speaker 1: Well, in keeping with our we're not going to talk
Speaker 1: about politics this entire show theory AI theory. AI researchers
Speaker 1: are calling for personhood credentials as bots are getting smarter this.
Speaker 2: When I was reading through this, I remembered that blade
Speaker 2: Runner was one of the I guess, the early introductions
Speaker 2: for a lot of us into what an AI future
Speaker 2: might look like. When Philip K. Dick wrote Do Androids
Speaker 2: Dream of Electric Sheep? Which eventually became blade Runner, there
Speaker 2: were questions about how can a human determine if they're
Speaker 2: speaking to another human or if that's a robot AI whatever.
Speaker 1: Researchers from the tech industry and academia have warned in
Speaker 1: a new paper that AI and the advances of AI
Speaker 1: could mean that AI bots will overwhelm the Internet in
Speaker 1: the years to come. This was published online last week.
Speaker 1: It's a group of thirty two researchers from OpenAI, Microsoft,
Speaker 1: Harvard other institutions calling on the technology world and policymakers
Speaker 1: to develop new ways to verify humans without sacrificing people's
Speaker 1: privacy or anonymity is it would be personhood credentials. People
Speaker 1: would prove offline that they physically exist.
Speaker 3: Is that like the thing where it's like, prove you're
Speaker 3: not a robot? Pick the boxes with the car.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2: One of the things that there is a there's a
Speaker 2: commercial that's on right now. I don't even remember what
Speaker 2: the product is for. But Jennifer Coolidge, you know Stiffler's mom. Sure,
Speaker 2: she is on the phone with somebody and you know
Speaker 2: this helpline basically, and it's a human that she's talking to.
Speaker 2: But she says, you know, she have jokingly says, you know,
Speaker 2: you robots sound so realistic, and she says.
Speaker 4: I'm not a robot.
Speaker 3: And then oh yeah, she asked.
Speaker 2: How would I prove I'm not a robot? That's what
Speaker 2: this is talking about. Yeah, you require a user to
Speaker 2: submit a selfie or solve one of those capture puzzles.
Speaker 2: They said that those things are becoming increasingly inadequate because
Speaker 2: of the sophistication levels of AI, and they said even
Speaker 2: holding a video chat with somebody soon might not be
Speaker 2: enough to tell whether or not they're a functioning, breathing,
Speaker 2: living human being.
Speaker 4: That's pretty crazy. Are you am I?
Speaker 3: AI?
Speaker 4: Am I?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 2: On the other hand, they said that ID verification systems
Speaker 2: that link your identity to your online activity could then
Speaker 2: risk your security, your personal privacy, your free expression rights.
Speaker 2: Researchers are looking at potential these personhood credentials that would
Speaker 2: allow you to interact online anonymously, but without having your
Speaker 2: activities tracked constantly.
Speaker 1: So you and I were trying to stay awake because
Speaker 1: we woke up in the middle of the night, and
Speaker 1: so we did a lap around the United Arena here,
Speaker 1: just the area where the media is. And yesterday I
Speaker 1: was saying something to the effect of, I'm surprised or
Speaker 1: not more shows because from our vantage point we can
Speaker 1: only see a.
Speaker 3: Handful of them.
Speaker 4: Many of them we've never heard of.
Speaker 3: Many of them.
Speaker 1: We've never heard of.
Speaker 3: But then we took a lap a little.
Speaker 1: Bit ago and we found a new room with a
Speaker 1: bunch of blathering radio people K pooh from San Francisco.
Speaker 3: Phoenix.
Speaker 2: There is literally a K pooh radio right kp oh
Speaker 2: out of San Francisco. I have no idea, but why
Speaker 2: they wouldn't change that kind of blows me a why, But.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are a lot of places here.
Speaker 2: This by far, though, this is by far the best setup.
Speaker 2: All those other people they've got, they've got card tables
Speaker 2: basically laid out with stuff on them. Ours is an
Speaker 2: actual raised stage and the best part about it. And
Speaker 2: credit Dave Weese for this the plastic. I heart that
Speaker 2: spin on the top of those columns.
Speaker 1: I mean, I am very impressed with what Dave and
Speaker 1: I heart radio media We're able to do here.
Speaker 3: This is this is, this is the best there is.
Speaker 3: K POOH is a community radio station in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: They broadcast from the Fillmore and the station is owned.
Speaker 3: By Poor People's Radio.
Speaker 4: Okay, so that makes sense.
Speaker 1: It does, But you would think, you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like when you're naming your kid and you think
Speaker 1: about all the issues that could come with Like you
Speaker 1: were going to name your kid Calvin Jack's.
Speaker 3: Right, which would have been a.
Speaker 1: Hard sell with your last name. So you kind of
Speaker 1: envision what's going to happen when you name something right.
Speaker 1: And if you are naming your radio station after Poor
Speaker 1: People's Radio and all you get are three letters, you
Speaker 1: know it's going to be Pooh and you're in San Francisco.
Speaker 3: It just fits the first air date was.
Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy two though, so I mean that was a
Speaker 1: golden age of San Francisco.
Speaker 4: Back when there was much less pooh.
Speaker 1: And now pooh, pooh pooh everywhere you go.
Speaker 4: Earlier, we talked with Kennedy.
Speaker 1: Gosha interviewed by Kennedy. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 5: That was priceful, just referring to some who's just so
Speaker 5: angry bent and that at the world.
Speaker 1: He actually comes.
Speaker 6: Around, starts doing his job.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, priceless.
Speaker 1: And one of my buddies, Dave, texted me, I love
Speaker 1: this lady that you just had on.
Speaker 4: This lady, This lady lady.
Speaker 1: I don't think Dave listened to or watched MTV in
Speaker 1: the early nineties.
Speaker 4: Oh well, if I was.
Speaker 1: To profile him, I would not have profiled him that way.
Speaker 4: That's not what he did. No, you've been listening to
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