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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 2>App Live in Chicago for the Democratic National Convention Day three.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that every state delegation had its own

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<v Speaker 1>walk up song last night? Some of them making sense,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them not making sense. We'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, Arkansas's walk up song was Don't Stop by

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<v Speaker 1>Fleetwood Mac reference to President Clinton, who used this as

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<v Speaker 1>a campaign song in nineteen ninety two. A little call

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<v Speaker 1>back there, of course, Clinton coming from Arkansas. One that

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<v Speaker 1>did not make as much sense. Sweet Home Alabama for

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama by Lynyrd Skinnyard. It's a nice name, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice tune, but the lyrics were in response to a

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<v Speaker 1>song by Neil Young that decried the legacy of slavery

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<v Speaker 1>in the Jim Crow South.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know many leave that one out.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't read about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Tonight, of course, is going to be a huge coming

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<v Speaker 2>out party for Governor Tim Walls, for him to introduce

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<v Speaker 2>himself not just to Democrats, but Independence and anybody who

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<v Speaker 2>will listen.

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<v Speaker 1>He seems like he's going to be the attack dog

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<v Speaker 1>for the Democrats joining.

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<v Speaker 2>Us now to talk more about this and what other

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<v Speaker 2>things we can expect tonight. Alex Gangatano from the Hill. Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks again for taking time for us today.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi from Chicago. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like you're right next door to us, and

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<v Speaker 2>you probably are so so Tim Walls, I read this

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<v Speaker 2>earlier today. Tim Walls had to tell the Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>campaign that until they called him, he had never used

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<v Speaker 2>a teleprompter before in any speech that he's ever given.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we going to expect from from the governor tonight?

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<v Speaker 5>That's right, His stories like that are you know. I

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<v Speaker 5>covered Tim Wats when he was a member of Congress

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<v Speaker 5>years ago, and I was covering Congress and he was

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<v Speaker 5>someone who would talk to the press and he would

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<v Speaker 5>always be chatting with other lawmakers. He really is just

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<v Speaker 5>authentically Tim Wallas and is happy to just chat with

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<v Speaker 5>whoever you know, wants to hear from him. And so

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not surprised by that telepropter comment because he just,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, speaks like a He's a teacher and a

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<v Speaker 5>coach and someone who just speaks off the cups. So

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<v Speaker 5>you know, tonight he'll have to practice his telepropter skills

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<v Speaker 5>before his big speech. But I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be a mix of both his authenticity, his Midwestern charm tonight,

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<v Speaker 5>but also this attack dog role that he's taking on.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Harris really wanted him on the ticket because

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<v Speaker 5>of the way that he can just simply and bluntly

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<v Speaker 5>talk about Donald Trump and Senator Vance, you know, calling

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<v Speaker 5>them weird. Like he doesn't get too in the weeds

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<v Speaker 5>about you know, policy or or why he you know,

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<v Speaker 5>uh thinks these people are a threat to democracy or

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<v Speaker 5>whatever else, which is kind of the tactic that Biden

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<v Speaker 5>had taken on against them, but instead just uh try

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<v Speaker 5>to just attack them on really you know, simple terms

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<v Speaker 5>that he hopes that Americans can resonate with. So we'll see,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what his introduction also of to America is

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<v Speaker 5>this is like one of the first times a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of voters are going to hear from him. And so

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<v Speaker 5>how much will he explain his background? I think they're

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<v Speaker 5>going to play up that he was.

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<v Speaker 6>A coach a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>That's something that they find really fun, his Midwestern background

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<v Speaker 5>and just again try to be as you know, charming

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<v Speaker 5>and authentic as he can.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of the themes here has been happy warriors.

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<v Speaker 1>When we went to the California delegates breakfast yesterday, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a phrase we kept hearing repeatedly from people.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all just happy warriors, and so he's got to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of be a happy attack.

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<v Speaker 5>Dog, right, That's right, that's his thing. He's joyful. He's

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<v Speaker 5>a happy warrior. But he's also someone who's not afraid

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<v Speaker 5>to call out, you know, something from you know, Vans,

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<v Speaker 5>and so it's a balance that he's been able to strike. Whereas,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I think it also power back lence is

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<v Speaker 5>Harris a bit. You know, Harris is.

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<v Speaker 7>Serious and wants to show that she's focused on policy

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<v Speaker 7>and she's you know, focused on preserving democracy, which is

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<v Speaker 7>something that her boss Center or President Biden was so

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<v Speaker 7>is so focused on as well, Whereas Walls.

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<v Speaker 5>Can be kind of this you know, joyful warrior, happy

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<v Speaker 5>warrior persona, and so far, I think it's working for them.

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<v Speaker 5>When you see them on the trail together, they do

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<v Speaker 5>kind of balance out one another.

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<v Speaker 2>You said that he seems to be the one that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to go after h Trump in vance, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to use the words like weird and creepy and

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<v Speaker 2>not get bogged down with policy discussions if you know him,

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<v Speaker 2>is he capable of having those policy discussions?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he, you know, a policy wonk when he needs

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<v Speaker 4>to be?

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<v Speaker 5>You know he is. During the Obama administration, when he

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<v Speaker 5>was serving in Congress, he was from a heavy agriculture

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<v Speaker 5>district in Minnesota and was really serious about, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>pushing back on some more progressive climate agenda items that

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<v Speaker 5>Obama was pushing at the time, ones that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he wanted to push back on them in order to

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<v Speaker 5>defend farmers from his district. So he definitely when it's

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<v Speaker 5>time to get in the weeds when it comes to

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<v Speaker 5>defending his district in particular, Minnesota now in particular, and

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<v Speaker 5>then I guess the whole country if he becomes vice president,

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<v Speaker 5>he does get into the weeds. I think we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to hear him talk a lot about what he's done

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<v Speaker 5>in Minnesota for migrants. He made college tuition free for immigrants,

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<v Speaker 5>what kind of you know, standards he expects that should

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<v Speaker 5>happen across the board nationally to support immigrants. And then

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<v Speaker 5>we are going to hear him talk a lot about

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<v Speaker 5>reproductive rice. He's talked about his imfertility challenges yes, he

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<v Speaker 5>did mention that he him and his wife went through

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<v Speaker 5>IVF when really they went through another form of infertility treatment.

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<v Speaker 5>Whereas that's something that now he's been attacked from Republicans on.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think he's going to get a little more

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<v Speaker 5>in the weeds about that to try to defend that,

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<v Speaker 5>but also in the weeds about you know that we

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<v Speaker 5>need more legislation to support women who are having fertility challenges.

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<v Speaker 5>Just across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>White House Correspondent. And do you think anyone's going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up Gaza tonight or tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's a big question. So tomorrow, I think that

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<v Speaker 5>Vice President Harris definitely has to bring it up. I

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<v Speaker 5>think she will in short term.

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<v Speaker 6>We in a short.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of quick way of doing it. We heard from

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<v Speaker 5>two or three lines on it. He said that he,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, respects the protesters outside in Chicago during his speech,

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<v Speaker 5>but also that you know, before the ceasefire deal has

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<v Speaker 5>to be you know, agreed to so that this war

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<v Speaker 5>can end. I think we're going to see Harris acknowledge it.

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<v Speaker 5>Do that same kind of in that same kind of way,

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<v Speaker 5>but at the same time, she doesn't want to distract

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<v Speaker 5>from other issues like the economy and abortion that she's

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<v Speaker 5>really ready to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Not for her.

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<v Speaker 5>If we will hear Tim Walls talk about it, he's

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<v Speaker 5>definitely in a phase right now trying to navigate how

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<v Speaker 5>to discuss it. Minnesota is a big Arab and Muslim

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<v Speaker 5>American population state, and he's, you know, navigating how to

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<v Speaker 5>speak about it in broad terms nationally when he's used

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<v Speaker 5>to knew Minnesota politics. But you know, we could maybe

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<v Speaker 5>hear a Bill Clinton talk about it, or another more

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<v Speaker 5>seasoned Democrat who can speak, you know, in broad terms

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<v Speaker 5>on a national level about it. So I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 5>will come up in one sense, but I think if

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<v Speaker 5>it doesn't tonight, it definitely will tomorrow with the Vice President,

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<v Speaker 5>because I do think she just has to address it.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex, great stuff, Thanks for taking time for us today.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Agan Chatano there again from the bill she mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Walls, of course, is going to be the keynote.

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<v Speaker 4>She mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Clinton, former president is going to speak. Transportation Secretary

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Bootage is going to speak boot Edge Edge, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if this brings as much energy as last night.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it does not. Nothing's going to compare to the Obama.

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<v Speaker 4>There's got to be a drop off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, tonight here in Chicago, and a longtime friend of

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<v Speaker 2>the show, I like to say, Oh, Kennedy. I hear

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy Saves the World podcast and all over Fox products,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's here as well to will for moral support.

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<v Speaker 4>I assume for us that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's nice when we see friends here and we

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<v Speaker 1>can just grab them and then it feels like home,

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<v Speaker 1>right because we get to see you all the time

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<v Speaker 1>on television. Also feeling like home. And when you're away

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<v Speaker 1>in a foreign city for many.

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<v Speaker 3>Days, did you bring your passport? A little?

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<v Speaker 5>Home?

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<v Speaker 3>Feels good?

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<v Speaker 1>It really does it, does it?

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<v Speaker 4>Does you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Morgan Wood from the Black Information Network this

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<v Speaker 1>morning in the lobby and she was eating a a

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<v Speaker 1>cup of noodle and I said to myself, gosh, darn,

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<v Speaker 1>that looks delightful.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like comfort.

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<v Speaker 1>And you right now are the physical form of the

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<v Speaker 1>cup of noodles. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 4>Less sodium slightly.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, it's higher than you'd think, but lower than advertised.

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<v Speaker 4>So we've okay, we've been talking before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday we actually talked with former mayor Lori Lightfoot.

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<v Speaker 4>She was describing what she saw.

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<v Speaker 2>On Monday Night's events, that the tablet of speakers and

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<v Speaker 2>how energetic the room was.

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<v Speaker 4>Last night.

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<v Speaker 2>The Obamas speak and they take it up a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more from what Monday Night was. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if Tim Wallas is going to bring the same kind

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<v Speaker 2>of energy tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>What are we folks?

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<v Speaker 4>What do we take?

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<v Speaker 3>I have a fun Tim wall story.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, So there is a Pennsylvania delegate who does not

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<v Speaker 8>live in Pennsylvania and is not from Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's legal.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't seem to think it was legal.

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<v Speaker 8>And she told a crowded vehicle full of people that

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<v Speaker 8>she was a dee I hire for the Pennsylvania delegation.

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<v Speaker 8>And then someone showed her a picture and said, is

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<v Speaker 8>this Tim Walls? And she said, I don't really know

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<v Speaker 8>what he looks like. To me, He's just the generic

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<v Speaker 8>white guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that brings true for me for every protest

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever covered with labor organizations, where you go and

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<v Speaker 1>they're all wearing the same T shirt and they have

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<v Speaker 1>the same box lunch and you're like, hey, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing here? What are you fighting for? And they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just got on the bus here.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just lost here. I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, No, they've just been It's like those buses are

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<v Speaker 1>But the optics are good because when you see those

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so joyful.

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<v Speaker 8>It's so joyful, and those policy positions are just impressive,

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<v Speaker 4>When is she going to do an interview? When is

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, we hear she's not doing the Fox

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone and they don't know where they land to be.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not getting any exposure at all.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not exposing her forearms to us now, Like she

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<v Speaker 4>A political birkop it is and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hot in here.

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<v Speaker 1>August eighth, she came out and she said I'll do

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<v Speaker 3>That was on the eighth, Like, that's ridiculous, it's now

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<v Speaker 1>Just sit down, just run to a microphone anywhere and

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<v Speaker 1>don't you think that she's been like in a boot camp,

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<v Speaker 3>Off the cuff.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, And so they have these prepackaged, scripted teleprompter events

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<v Speaker 8>so people her surrogates can come out and go, I

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<v Speaker 8>think she's doing amazing, right, Like she's better on the

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<v Speaker 8>stump than I've ever seen her. And it's like yes,

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<v Speaker 8>because she has freestyle one sentence about Joe Biden getting

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<v Speaker 8>some hostages released.

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<v Speaker 4>From Russian prisons.

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<v Speaker 8>It was it was like a sentence and a half

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<v Speaker 8>and she still managed to completely biff that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder she's looking for the boys bathroom to put

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<v Speaker 2>those tampons.

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<v Speaker 1>No tapsco run, Wait, what's wearing on? Where are the fellas?

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar go find out what's going on with those tampons.

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<v Speaker 8>Seriously going to I hope she's a rabble rouser and

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<v Speaker 8>during the Walls speech she's gonna be like she's just

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<v Speaker 8>going But you know what, this, this this ticket is

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<v Speaker 8>leaning so much into they're probably going to have dancing

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<v Speaker 3>Be that French pole vaulter if you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that was a lot okay, really was.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the event that, are you going to stick

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<v Speaker 2>around for Tomorrow night too?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I will be here.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm actually I'm covering this for the Daily Mail, where

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the Daily Mail the joy it brings to

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<v Speaker 2>Then did you think they messed up I having Biden

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<v Speaker 2>go on Monday night as opposed to Thursday night to introduce.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Joe Biden isn't happy with that.

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<v Speaker 8>I think everyone else is pretty delighted because, like Kamala's

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<v Speaker 8>first interview, they just wanted to get that one out

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Kennedy, who was more pissed off Biden or Gavin

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<v Speaker 1>Newsom last night? Oh my gosh, I mean, did he

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<v Speaker 8>So his whole thing like he has to pretend like

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<v Speaker 8>he's really excited for Kamala I win. There is no

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<v Speaker 8>one in the country who is more excited about the

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<v Speaker 8>prospect of a Kamala Harris lost, maybe Donald Trump or

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<v Speaker 8>Don Trump Junior, like he really wants her to lose.

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<v Speaker 8>Gavin Newsom is crossing his fingers and his toes and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why he went to that encampment in

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<v Speaker 1>La and started ruining that must man's.

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<v Speaker 3>Life is because he needs attention. You know, he's throwing

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<v Speaker 1>It's like he the idea that they could win, Kamala

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<v Speaker 1>could win, and then sitting there for another four years,

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<v Speaker 1>his window is closing.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, that's that's eight years of irrelevancy because after her,

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<v Speaker 8>because I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think she has a very good chance of winning.

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<v Speaker 8>After her, there they will need a palate cleanser, so

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<v Speaker 8>they will need like the canalope sorbet after Kama hair

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<v Speaker 8>So a Republican will absolutely be elected probably for eight

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<v Speaker 8>years after her. So Newsome, if she wins, he has

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<v Speaker 8>done done. Yeah, And it's like I know he's like

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<v Speaker 3>But he's just insufferable.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, he's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is that person?

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<v Speaker 3>Even? Like, who is that guy?

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know if it goes She's the guy who

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<v Speaker 8>closes school for everyone, but sends his kids to school.

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<v Speaker 8>He's the guy who closes restaurants for good, so mom

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<v Speaker 8>and pop restaurants go.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of business.

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<v Speaker 8>Forever, so he can eat his his flog with pineapple

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, singer is like a nineties reference.

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<v Speaker 4>This is this is my vineyard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he got a vineyard because that's such a man

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<v Speaker 3>of the people. He had a pet order for christ Sike.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I say that on the radio?

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<v Speaker 4>Which one the order?

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<v Speaker 3>The Christ part?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And you can here you can, okay, well for Christi

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 8>Great to see an action.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at Hillary Clinton.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to see you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's thanks.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary and Shannon kf I am six forty live everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>One of my girlfriends that I went to college with says,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched your guys's news Nation interview. Loved it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you took Gary into the gender neutral

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, haven't been back, have not been back.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've got this.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a kind of a secret bathroom that's back

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<v Speaker 2>here in the corner that nobody really goes to. Every

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<v Speaker 3>Yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>The women's was not empty when I went in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Some stories that are going on outside the United Center

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<v Speaker 2>here in Chicago. Pro Palestinian protesters are expected to continue today.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night, at least seventy two people now arrested at

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<v Speaker 2>the protests. The Chicago Police superintendent has said that somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>between fifty and sixty were arrested during this morning, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>during this briefing this morning, but a bunch of them

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<v Speaker 4>They said. Three journalists were among those.

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<v Speaker 2>Arrested, and the Chicago chapter of the National Lawyers Guild

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<v Speaker 2>said that the police officers acted aggressively. Yeah, that the

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<v Speaker 2>police response was aggressive, and that people were surrounded, corralled,

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<v Speaker 2>and that it was nearly impossible for them to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Meyer is the Washington correspondent for News Nation covering

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<v Speaker 1>the White House, the campaign trail, the Pentagon spaced out

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<v Speaker 1>of DC and Kelly, it seems like you've been able

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<v Speaker 1>to dig up some information about what we could see

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<v Speaker 1>leading up to Tim Walls's remarks tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, yeah, and you can probably hear some of it here.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm inside the United Center in Chicago where the DNC

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<v Speaker 6>is taking place, and right now they're going through Mike

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<v Speaker 6>checks and walkthroughs of the performance tonight. So that's what

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<v Speaker 6>happens through today here as we're doing live shops for

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<v Speaker 6>News Nation, this is happening behind the scenes. We've already

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<v Speaker 6>seen Marylynd Governor West Moore come up and kind of

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<v Speaker 6>but the main headlines here are former President Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 6>will be speaking there tonight, and then Tim Walls, the

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<v Speaker 6>running mate for Kamala Harris, will be introducing himself to

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<v Speaker 6>the country. He's the governor of Minnesota and this certainly

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<v Speaker 6>be the biggest stage of his political career and of

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<v Speaker 6>his life that he will be speaking on here tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the expectations is that Tim Walls does basically

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<v Speaker 2>do this introduction to not just the members of the

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<v Speaker 2>but also independent voters and anybody else who might still

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<v Speaker 4>Is he good at that? Is he good at introducing himself?

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<v Speaker 4>Does he have that personality? Yeah, that's the big.

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<v Speaker 6>Question because a lot of people know Kamala Harris because

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<v Speaker 6>she was introduced to the country as vice president with

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<v Speaker 6>President Joe Biden. A lot of people don't know who

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<v Speaker 6>Tim Walls is. So this is his chance to not

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<v Speaker 6>only introduce himself his resume. He was a former high

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<v Speaker 6>football coach. He had twenty four years of Army reserve.

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<v Speaker 6>He also was a public sermon in the House for

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<v Speaker 6>twelve years and then now as governor of Minnesota in

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<v Speaker 6>his second term. But as you mentioned, how is he

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<v Speaker 6>also going to talk to those independent models voters. So

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<v Speaker 6>when he was in the House, he won that seat

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<v Speaker 6>which was held by Republicans for over one hundred years,

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<v Speaker 6>so he had experience in kind of making compromises being

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<v Speaker 6>a blue congressman in a very red district. So how

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<v Speaker 6>can he bring that to the table and maybe also

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<v Speaker 6>reaching to bring in more, you know, white men who

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<v Speaker 6>the Democratic Party may have trouble or have had trouble

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<v Speaker 6>as they've kind of moved over more towards Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly, we're kind of on the concourse here at the

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<v Speaker 1>United Center. It seems like it's not as buzzy as

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<v Speaker 1>it was yesterday ahead of the Obamas coming to town.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think that got a lot of attention, especially,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I was inside the room as it was happening.

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<v Speaker 6>As Michelle came out, the room rose to their feet,

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<v Speaker 6>loved her speech, and then obviously former President Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 6>followed her and said he made the mistake of following Michelle.

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<v Speaker 6>So they got a lot of attention, a lot of applause,

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<v Speaker 6>came in two thousand and eight. They said they're feeling

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<v Speaker 6>that same thing right now, so they're really trying to

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<v Speaker 6>kind of inject that in, which is an interesting take

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<v Speaker 6>on all of this because you do still have President

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<v Speaker 6>Biden you know here and Harris serving in that administration,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this, and to your point, I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>the letdown day it could be. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what Tim Wallas is going to bring, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't see the Bill Clinton, Pete buddhaj Edge, Nancy Pelosi

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<v Speaker 2>lineup as being as exciting as the Obamas were last night.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know what I was talking about Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 6>on News Nation today and kind of going back through

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<v Speaker 6>his old speeches, he has I think the most reps

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<v Speaker 6>on this stage. This is his twelfth consecutive Democratic Convention speech.

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<v Speaker 6>He has a lot of famous ones. Obviously he's older.

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<v Speaker 6>Now we'll see how he delivers this one, but he

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<v Speaker 6>always has delivered very famous speeches here at these conventions.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm interested to hear what he has to say

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<v Speaker 6>and if he kind of bring that energy out here tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>But he's been speaking here since nineteen eighty eight, over

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<v Speaker 6>the last thirty six years, and then of course Tim Walls,

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<v Speaker 6>he does have that energy people are seeing on the trail.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see if he brings that here tonight and gets

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<v Speaker 6>the same kind of reaction, But to follow the Obamas

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<v Speaker 6>is definitely had a hard task.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Meyer, Washington correspondent for a News Nation. Excellent reporting

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<v Speaker 1>per usual. Thanks for your time, Thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys, and when you get a chance, come out out.

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<v Speaker 4>And say hi.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be out here on the concourse, live everywhere on

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<v Speaker 2>the iHeartRadio app. We're live at the United Center in

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago for day three of the Democratic National Convention. We

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<v Speaker 2>saw the Obamas, both Michelle and Barack last night speaking

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<v Speaker 2>and very well received. I guess you could say because

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<v Speaker 2>of the audience's reaction to them was pretty amazing. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be somewhat of a letdown,

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<v Speaker 2>at least from those two speakers. Because Bill Clinton, Pete Bootage,

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<v Speaker 2>Edge Governor Tim Walls, of course the vice presidential nominee,

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<v Speaker 2>he will be the keynote speaker.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see what he brings.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen him probably, Kelly mentioned Kelly Meyer from

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<v Speaker 2>News Nation. This is arguably the biggest speech is given

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<v Speaker 2>in his life, so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>How he brings it tonight. A couple developing stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one is that former President Trump and his vice presidential.

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<v Speaker 4>Running mate j A.

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<v Speaker 2>D Vance are in North Carolina today giving an outdoor

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<v Speaker 2>rally and a speech specifically dedicated to national security.

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<v Speaker 3>You've seen all.

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<v Speaker 1>The bulletproof glass that surrounds the former president.

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<v Speaker 3>You've seen the memes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it looks odd, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it reminds me of the setup for the inauguration

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<v Speaker 2>when they've got a bulletproof glass in front of the

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<v Speaker 2>President and.

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<v Speaker 4>Vice president there on the steps of the Capitol.

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<v Speaker 2>This obviously not the steps of the Capitol, but basically

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<v Speaker 2>surrounded by bulletproof glass. The other story is Robert F.

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy Junior on Friday is going to make a speech

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<v Speaker 2>about his path forward in the presidential race.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll pick his horse, which will be Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds like it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Press Secretary Stephanie Spear for the Kennedy campaign posted

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<v Speaker 2>the announcement, said the present historic moment and his path

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<v Speaker 2>forward on social.

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<v Speaker 4>Media will come. The announcement comes just.

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<v Speaker 2>After yesterday when we talked about it in the twelve

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour. Kennedy's running mate, Nicole Shanahan blasted Democrats, saying

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<v Speaker 2>that she fully supports a role for Kennedy in a

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<v Speaker 2>future Trump administration and hinted that they could end their

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<v Speaker 2>campaign and throw their support entirely behind former President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in keeping with our we're not going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about politics this entire show theory AI theory. AI researchers

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<v Speaker 1>are calling for personhood credentials as bots are getting smarter this.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was reading through this, I remembered that blade

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<v Speaker 2>Runner was one of the I guess, the early introductions

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of us into what an AI future

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<v Speaker 2>might look like. When Philip K. Dick wrote Do Androids

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<v Speaker 2>Dream of Electric Sheep? Which eventually became blade Runner, there

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<v Speaker 2>were questions about how can a human determine if they're

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<v Speaker 2>speaking to another human or if that's a robot AI whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Researchers from the tech industry and academia have warned in

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<v Speaker 1>a new paper that AI and the advances of AI

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<v Speaker 1>could mean that AI bots will overwhelm the Internet in

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<v Speaker 1>the years to come. This was published online last week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a group of thirty two researchers from OpenAI, Microsoft,

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<v Speaker 1>Harvard other institutions calling on the technology world and policymakers

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<v Speaker 1>to develop new ways to verify humans without sacrificing people's

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<v Speaker 1>privacy or anonymity is it would be personhood credentials. People

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<v Speaker 1>would prove offline that they physically exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that like the thing where it's like, prove you're

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<v Speaker 3>not a robot? Pick the boxes with the car.

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that there is a there's a

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<v Speaker 2>commercial that's on right now. I don't even remember what

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<v Speaker 2>the product is for. But Jennifer Coolidge, you know Stiffler's mom. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>she is on the phone with somebody and you know

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<v Speaker 2>this helpline basically, and it's a human that she's talking to.

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<v Speaker 2>But she says, you know, she have jokingly says, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you robots sound so realistic, and she says.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not a robot.

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<v Speaker 3>And then oh yeah, she asked.

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<v Speaker 2>How would I prove I'm not a robot? That's what

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<v Speaker 2>this is talking about. Yeah, you require a user to

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<v Speaker 2>submit a selfie or solve one of those capture puzzles.

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<v Speaker 2>They said that those things are becoming increasingly inadequate because

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<v Speaker 2>of the sophistication levels of AI, and they said even

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<v Speaker 2>holding a video chat with somebody soon might not be

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<v Speaker 2>enough to tell whether or not they're a functioning, breathing,

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<v Speaker 2>living human being.

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<v Speaker 4>That's pretty crazy. Are you am I?

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<v Speaker 3>AI?

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<v Speaker 4>Am I?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, they said that ID verification systems

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<v Speaker 2>that link your identity to your online activity could then

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<v Speaker 2>risk your security, your personal privacy, your free expression rights.

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<v Speaker 2>Researchers are looking at potential these personhood credentials that would

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<v Speaker 2>allow you to interact online anonymously, but without having your

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<v Speaker 2>activities tracked constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>So you and I were trying to stay awake because

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<v Speaker 1>we woke up in the middle of the night, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we did a lap around the United Arena here,

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<v Speaker 1>just the area where the media is. And yesterday I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying something to the effect of, I'm surprised or

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<v Speaker 1>not more shows because from our vantage point we can

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<v Speaker 1>only see a.

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<v Speaker 3>Handful of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Many of them we've never heard of.

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<v Speaker 3>Many of them.

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<v Speaker 1>We've never heard of.

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<v Speaker 3>But then we took a lap a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit ago and we found a new room with a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of blathering radio people K pooh from San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 3>Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 2>There is literally a K pooh radio right kp oh

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<v Speaker 2>out of San Francisco. I have no idea, but why

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't change that kind of blows me a why, But.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there are a lot of places here.

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<v Speaker 2>This by far, though, this is by far the best setup.

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<v Speaker 2>All those other people they've got, they've got card tables

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<v Speaker 2>basically laid out with stuff on them. Ours is an

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<v Speaker 2>actual raised stage and the best part about it. And

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<v Speaker 2>credit Dave Weese for this the plastic. I heart that

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<v Speaker 2>spin on the top of those columns.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I am very impressed with what Dave and

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<v Speaker 1>I heart radio media We're able to do here.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is, this is the best there is.

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<v Speaker 3>K POOH is a community radio station in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>They broadcast from the Fillmore and the station is owned.

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<v Speaker 3>By Poor People's Radio.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It does, But you would think, you know, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like when you're naming your kid and you think

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<v Speaker 1>about all the issues that could come with Like you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to name your kid Calvin Jack's.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, which would have been a.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard sell with your last name. So you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>envision what's going to happen when you name something right.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you are naming your radio station after Poor

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<v Speaker 1>People's Radio and all you get are three letters, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's going to be Pooh and you're in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 3>It just fits the first air date was.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen seventy two though, so I mean that was a

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<v Speaker 1>golden age of San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 4>Back when there was much less pooh.

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<v Speaker 1>And now pooh, pooh pooh everywhere you go.

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<v Speaker 4>Earlier, we talked with Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Gosha interviewed by Kennedy. Thank you, guys.

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<v Speaker 5>That was priceful, just referring to some who's just so

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<v Speaker 5>angry bent and that at the world.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually comes.

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<v Speaker 6>Around, starts doing his job.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, priceless.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of my buddies, Dave, texted me, I love

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<v Speaker 1>this lady that you just had on.

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<v Speaker 4>This lady, This lady lady.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Dave listened to or watched MTV in

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<v Speaker 1>the early nineties.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, if I was.

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<v Speaker 1>To profile him, I would not have profiled him that way.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not what he did. No, you've been listening to

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<v Speaker 4>The Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 2>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
