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<v Speaker 1>Eight oh five. Here fifty five KRCD talk station, Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Friday tgif bottom of the hour, we're gonna hear from

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<v Speaker 1>Lori Flake. She's with the Karen Wellington Foundation. They're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a five K coming up. Karen Wellington, the victim of

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<v Speaker 1>breast cancer. Just love to have fun, and apparently that's

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<v Speaker 1>what she was all about. So in her name, they've

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<v Speaker 1>been well sending folks that are struggling with cancer diagnosis

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<v Speaker 1>to fund to fun events, fun things to do like

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<v Speaker 1>skydiving and other things, and of course the charity funds

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<v Speaker 1>that work. So Laurie at the bottom of the are.

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, I am so happy to have in studio.

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<v Speaker 1>What an inspirational guy. Truth to power. Andre Ewing a

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<v Speaker 1>n d are e Ewing e wyng. I say it

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<v Speaker 1>and spell it out loud, because I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>head over to his Facebook page. Just search for Andre Ewing.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see him. You'll see Curse Breakers three hundred. You

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<v Speaker 1>always mentioned Curse Breakers three hundred. Andre. Welcome back, man,

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<v Speaker 1>It's so cool to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, brother Brown's so happy to be here. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 2>and once again on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, real quick, here put some context before we start

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<v Speaker 1>diving into this. If you've been ranting about it of late,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lord knows you have enough subject matter to go

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<v Speaker 1>on a rant. Curse Breaker three hundred, what's that all about?

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<v Speaker 1>What's behind that moniker?

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<v Speaker 2>It developed through the prison system of trying to help

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<v Speaker 2>returning citizens. So even as a police officer, I got

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<v Speaker 2>tired of dropping them off at the justice center and

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<v Speaker 2>that was it. So I wanted to assist and help

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<v Speaker 2>them to get out. So I was trying to let

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<v Speaker 2>them know that you can break these strongholds on your life.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would go inside the prisons and tell them

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<v Speaker 2>you can identify the curse. You can confront this curse

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<v Speaker 2>and have the power once you identified it and you've

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<v Speaker 2>confronted it to overpower this stronghold on you be able

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<v Speaker 2>to move it out the way and then destroy it.

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<v Speaker 2>And there is Cursebreakers three hundred. It goes with Gideon's

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred actually from the Bible Judges seven seven people

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<v Speaker 2>related to the movie to three hundred. But it shows

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<v Speaker 2>that this is an elite group and together we can

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<v Speaker 2>defeat and beat Millias if necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's beautiful. You know the idea that you know

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years as a police officer and again thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>your service to the community over all those years. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you have stories that we could talk about for

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<v Speaker 1>hours and hours of what you've seen and lived through

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<v Speaker 1>as a police officer. But the idea that you would,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, move from your role as a law enforcer

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<v Speaker 1>locking people up, to go into the lock up and

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<v Speaker 1>try to get them from stopping from preventing them from

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<v Speaker 1>being a recipibus criminal. You know, when you get out,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a better path. I wish more officers would would

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<v Speaker 1>go down that road. Do you think it really does

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<v Speaker 1>some good?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, it does some good. Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that was interesting in that journey is that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of negativity, obviously that the inmates would have.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was doing a series there on forgiveness, and

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<v Speaker 2>for at least two months they actually did not know

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<v Speaker 2>who I was being inside the prison because I was

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<v Speaker 2>engaging with them, going through church service with them, and

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<v Speaker 2>I actually said, you've never asked, and I never told

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<v Speaker 2>you what my profession is. Didn't now I'm a uniform

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<v Speaker 2>off So I sat there and told them, look, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Cincinnati police officer. And at that time you

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<v Speaker 2>could have heard a pin drop, and they looked at

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<v Speaker 2>me and said, no, brother Dre, you're not because you've

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<v Speaker 2>treated us fair, You've washed our feet, you showed us love.

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<v Speaker 2>You sat in here with us as if nothing was wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, this is the way. I know you've

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<v Speaker 2>been offended in certain cases. I know you've gotten extra

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<v Speaker 2>charges on you, but I'm showing you forgiveness is the

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<v Speaker 2>right way. And when a young man stood up and said,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was going to leave here, I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to assassinate a police officer until you were here, and

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<v Speaker 2>now I am not, it showed the impact that there

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be serious conversations and these inmates say, who

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<v Speaker 2>have been done wrong? But police officers, we can together

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<v Speaker 2>by the power of God.

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<v Speaker 3>It shows that we can heal well.

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<v Speaker 1>And you also you pointed out through illustration that the

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<v Speaker 1>police officers, generally speaking, aren't bad people.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, I mean there's this entire narrative that every police

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<v Speaker 2>officer is bad. Right, No, I mean I've worked with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there bad cops? Absolutely absolutely? And have how I identified

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<v Speaker 2>and even spoken out on these things. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>why in the past I ran for Sentinel president that

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<v Speaker 2>would have a voice to address these matters.

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<v Speaker 3>Of civil rights and equal rights.

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<v Speaker 2>But the peers felt that I was too vocal and

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't want somebody vocal to speak out on the

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<v Speaker 2>behalfs of police officers.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that, and you are outspoken, Like I said

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Ewing on Facebook, You'll see exactly what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>All right now, pivoting over your most recent rant, some

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<v Speaker 1>strong words directed at Iris Rawli now having been a

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<v Speaker 1>police officer, she was recently involved in a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a a verbal altercation with the police officer. Was she

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<v Speaker 1>preventing him from performing his job? And isn't that a

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<v Speaker 1>citable offense when you look right, when you look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your take on that most recent interaction with this

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<v Speaker 1>insane police Police Department officer?

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, was a from my it was officer.

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<v Speaker 2>Her a female and she apparently works down at Finley Marketing,

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<v Speaker 2>does a phenomenal job. I heard She's only been on

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<v Speaker 2>about four years and she works the community. She's out

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<v Speaker 2>on foot and she's trying to make sure that the

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<v Speaker 2>streets are clear and when she gets complaints, and based

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<v Speaker 2>on this interaction, Miss Rowley approaches her during this investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>She already knew the subject. The subject was calm, and

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<v Speaker 2>she still interfeares and she asks, ma'am, could you please

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<v Speaker 2>just stand over there? She said, I don't absolutely have

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<v Speaker 2>to do nothing. I'm going to follow you. And she

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<v Speaker 2>was right in between the subject and the police officer,

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<v Speaker 2>which is extremely dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>That's outrageous. Yes, now, could the officer have cited her

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<v Speaker 1>for that because she was performing her duty as a

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<v Speaker 1>police officer and Irish really got in between her and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want the subject the purp whatever, but that

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<v Speaker 1>impeded her ability to do her job and complete the investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely obstruction of official business. And this officer was totally professional.

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<v Speaker 2>They were polite, they were on point, and showed high

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<v Speaker 2>integrity and that's what should be praised even in this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's things that need to be identified or you

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<v Speaker 2>going to be an activist or you going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a representation even for the public. But your words is

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<v Speaker 2>that you need to put an officer on your list,

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<v Speaker 2>and they get on your list, then you may be

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<v Speaker 2>able to get them fired. How does that boost the

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<v Speaker 2>morale of police officers? Knowing that this individual is working

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<v Speaker 2>in city council.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she has been an outspoken critic of the police

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<v Speaker 1>department generally speaking, I mean speck since the riots, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where she came to prominence.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, Correct, And I've always said that that Irish Rollie

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<v Speaker 2>has done some great work. There were some things that

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<v Speaker 2>were needed and necessary in the city and in dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with policing.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with that, but collaborative. Correct. But when you

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<v Speaker 3>move to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Degree, what exactly is your motive at this particular point.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to understand that if you, as a city leader,

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<v Speaker 2>are telling everyone that police are no good, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>need police disregard what they say, and this is a

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<v Speaker 2>leader who has a high influence on the community, then

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<v Speaker 2>we need to redirect our energy and find out what

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<v Speaker 2>exactly is going on here because this does not help

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<v Speaker 2>police relations well certainly.

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<v Speaker 1>And circling back to your interactions with the folks that

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<v Speaker 1>have been arrested. We're in the prison system. A guy

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<v Speaker 1>wants to get out of jail and kill a police officer.

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Ewing shows up and shows a different side of

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<v Speaker 1>the police department and a different side of who these

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<v Speaker 1>officers are, and you completely change his heart and mind. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Iris ROLI's out there maintaining that sort of broad brush

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<v Speaker 1>perception of the police department, suggesting that all of them

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<v Speaker 1>are bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, correct, and this helps no one.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and that this is what Smithman screams about all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. How come are elected officials, the council members,

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<v Speaker 1>city manager not elected, I understand, but the mayor aren't

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<v Speaker 1>coming out in more strongly saying positive things about the police,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you do pointing out the contrary narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what role models should be doing in order

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<v Speaker 1>to bring about the better sense of saya and a

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<v Speaker 1>greater willingness of everybody within the city to work with

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<v Speaker 1>the police and not consider them an enemy from the

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<v Speaker 1>get go. Yes, that silence is a really terrible thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Iris is saying it out loud, but the silence from

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<v Speaker 1>the elected officials sort of adds to it. Oh, it

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<v Speaker 1>must be true what Iris is saying. The mayor hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>come out and said anything to the contrary exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've always stated this, Every elected official on council

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<v Speaker 2>should do a ride along with the police at least

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<v Speaker 2>once once a week, at least once a week, and

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<v Speaker 2>rotate on different shifts every week, because it amazes me

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<v Speaker 2>how you quarterback the job, but you refuse to get

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<v Speaker 2>in the seat to see exactly what we do. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've challenged individuals on that. I've even when I was

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<v Speaker 2>on the force, I had told the city manager, please

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<v Speaker 2>ride along because there are things that you just don't

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<v Speaker 2>know about that you sit in this seat, then your

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<v Speaker 2>optics will be completely changed. So don't quarterback an officer's

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<v Speaker 2>position until you get in that hot seat on a

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<v Speaker 2>regular basis, because I can say that Smitherman years ago

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<v Speaker 2>did ride along with me, and he had a different

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<v Speaker 2>perception on certain circumstances where he even said, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe you didn't taste that guy, because I wouldn't taste

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<v Speaker 2>said exactly looking different in the eyes of a police officer.

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<v Speaker 1>Will continue with Andre Ewing again. Head on to the

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook and check him out and some of the rants

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<v Speaker 1>he goes on. You're gonna love what he has to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight to sixteen. Will continue with Andre after these brief words.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty five krc our higher.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's your Channa nine first one in wabolecasts hot, humid

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<v Speaker 4>and a chance of afternoon range eighty nine for the high,

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<v Speaker 4>sixty nine over night with a few clouds, ninety for

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<v Speaker 4>the heigh tomorrow with mostly sunny skies. Hot humid and

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<v Speaker 4>the afternoon ninety one for the high sixty nine. Right now,

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<v Speaker 4>let's get a traffic update.

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<v Speaker 5>Chuck from the UCU Transit Center near the sixty percent

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<v Speaker 5>He's found seventy four shut down due to an accident.

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<v Speaker 5>Before you get to the state line, traffic is back

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<v Speaker 1>This eight nineteen on a Friday. Happy Friday to you

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<v Speaker 1>extra special Happy Friday. Andre Ewing in studio after thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years of service the Cincinnata Police Department, engaging in community

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<v Speaker 1>activistm like he did when he was on the police force,

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<v Speaker 1>going into the prisons and trying to talk how to

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<v Speaker 1>break the curse, this concept of curse breakers three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>das behind. But we're pivoting over to some of the

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<v Speaker 1>issues he's been on a ramp about of late. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>iris Roli be included among those. She I guess she's

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<v Speaker 1>serving no other role with the Pervoll administration as than

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of paid advisor Andre if I got that right.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what I've been told is she's a paid advisor,

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<v Speaker 2>and she works as an advisor for the mayor, the chief,

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<v Speaker 2>and the city manager.

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<v Speaker 1>As a consultant, okay, and obviously not being consulted to

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<v Speaker 1>smooth things over with the police department, considering she's going

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<v Speaker 1>after them all the time. And I know you've given

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<v Speaker 1>her props for her work dealing with the collaborative agreement

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<v Speaker 1>after the riots, and she has some you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>good points under her name, But in her role right

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<v Speaker 1>now as an activist, and considering the direction she goes

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<v Speaker 1>with her activism, I got to imagine the only purpose

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<v Speaker 1>she serves with the with the Pervoll administration is that

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<v Speaker 1>she's got such a profound, strong voice within the black

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<v Speaker 1>community that she gets in votes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well how can I say it that Brother Smithman said

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<v Speaker 2>it the best. What exactly is your role? You're getting

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<v Speaker 2>paid by the city tax dollars? What is your role?

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<v Speaker 2>Right and until the city administration allows it to be

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<v Speaker 2>very clear and what she can and cannot do, this

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<v Speaker 2>will be a mystery to city tax payers at this

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<v Speaker 2>particular time.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ken Coober, the FOP president, did file a complaint

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<v Speaker 1>against her for some of the things she said out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>but the city just issued a report giving her a

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<v Speaker 1>pass saying no, this was not in her role in

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<v Speaker 1>any capacity with the city Erico, she said these things

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<v Speaker 1>and her role as a private citizen. Nothing to see here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not quite sure that I buy that anyway. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things we talked about off break or on

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<v Speaker 1>the break, you wanted to bring up the whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>of District five and the elimination of District five and

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<v Speaker 1>how that actually impacts the former District five residents.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, And I just want to ask first thing, deepest

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<v Speaker 2>condolences to Krishanda Sierra Wynn, who lost her life I

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<v Speaker 2>made to a tragedy shooting. And to say that this

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<v Speaker 2>is not a threat to the public or community. If

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<v Speaker 2>the individuals or individuals have not been found, then it's

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<v Speaker 2>still a threat.

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<v Speaker 1>As of right now, the best of my knowledgy, they

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<v Speaker 1>have not gotten the person who's responsible for killing her.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolute tragedy. It really is so understand.

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<v Speaker 2>That District five was located at A ten twelve lud Low,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay right at during nineteen fifty seven to twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it was moved due to.

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<v Speaker 2>Complaints about it was cramped and unhealthy conditions, which I

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<v Speaker 2>can speak for because I worked at District five and

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<v Speaker 2>it was cramped and it was unhealthy. So now it's

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<v Speaker 2>occupied by the park board and been renovated.

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<v Speaker 3>But now let's move further.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three, District five moves to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty eight to thirty seven Hamilton Avenue.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have them from.

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<v Speaker 2>Ludlow that was close to right there, to UC that

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<v Speaker 2>needs the police as well. You move them a little

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<v Speaker 2>further way up on Hamilton Avenue. Now they say this

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<v Speaker 2>was a citywide redistricting plan that consolidated police district.

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<v Speaker 3>Now listen to this.

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<v Speaker 2>District five Serve College Hill, Mount Airy, North Side, Camp Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>Whitten Hills, Spring Grove, Village, Clifton, and the cuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's gone now.

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<v Speaker 2>Now District three had to take over College Hill, mount Airy,

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<v Speaker 2>north side of Camp Washington. District three is on Ferguson Avenue,

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<v Speaker 2>Price Hill area, deep west side. Now imagine the officer

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<v Speaker 2>leaving that location trying to find the best route to

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<v Speaker 2>get to College Hill Man Montanare Queen City's erect bootn

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<v Speaker 2>is crowded, Glen Way is cloud crowded. So you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get down to Montana and to work your way

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<v Speaker 2>up Coraine and cross over to get to Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine the time it takes. And now the officer.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets there, does a police report, realizes hey, I got

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<v Speaker 2>to do this report, file some property and do extra

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<v Speaker 3>Drive back to District three.

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<v Speaker 2>And people wonder why these issues and police times are

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<v Speaker 2>are are now getting less and less on.

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<v Speaker 1>Time longer and longer. Yes, sir, well, that's explained that completely,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the officers added in the world can't change

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<v Speaker 1>that reality if they got to make that trip.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So not only short officers, we got them like ten

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<v Speaker 1>gazillion miles away from where something might have happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, so when we have people say what took you

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<v Speaker 2>so long? Why do you get here? Trust me, officers

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<v Speaker 2>want to get here. But what's interesting is data analysis

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<v Speaker 2>and efficiency. According to the city manager stated that this

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<v Speaker 2>shift presented.

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<v Speaker 3>The best permanent solution for.

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<v Speaker 2>The department moving forward, and the chief stated a response

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<v Speaker 2>time have been carefully analyzed and would not be neglatively affected.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on blind, because you say it out loud doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make it true.

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<v Speaker 2>Now look at it again right now, and from this leadership,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what we see is a travesty on why

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<v Speaker 2>our police cannot get to locations on time. You just

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<v Speaker 2>do not remove an entire police district from a community

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<v Speaker 2>and say safety is my number one priority.

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<v Speaker 1>And it would know better than someone who did it

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty years, that man Andre Ewing in studio speaking

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<v Speaker 1>truth to power and putting some solid ideas behind what

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying. Andre Ewing on Facebook, you got a spot

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<v Speaker 1>here in the morning show. Andre I love hearing from you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're always welcome to come in and chime in

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<v Speaker 1>on your thoughts and comments.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a pleasure having mate to have a fantastic weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's eight twenty six right now, fifty five ks to

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