Speaker 1: Eight oh five. Here fifty five KRCD talk station, Happy
Speaker 1: Friday tgif bottom of the hour, we're gonna hear from
Speaker 1: Lori Flake. She's with the Karen Wellington Foundation. They're doing
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Speaker 1: to fund to fun events, fun things to do like
Speaker 1: skydiving and other things, and of course the charity funds
Speaker 1: that work. So Laurie at the bottom of the are.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I am so happy to have in studio.
Speaker 1: What an inspirational guy. Truth to power. Andre Ewing a
Speaker 1: n d are e Ewing e wyng. I say it
Speaker 1: and spell it out loud, because I want you to
Speaker 1: head over to his Facebook page. Just search for Andre Ewing.
Speaker 1: You'll see him. You'll see Curse Breakers three hundred. You
Speaker 1: always mentioned Curse Breakers three hundred. Andre. Welcome back, man,
Speaker 1: It's so cool to see you.
Speaker 2: Hey, brother Brown's so happy to be here. I'm excited
Speaker 2: and once again on fire.
Speaker 1: Okay, real quick, here put some context before we start
Speaker 1: diving into this. If you've been ranting about it of late,
Speaker 1: and Lord knows you have enough subject matter to go
Speaker 1: on a rant. Curse Breaker three hundred, what's that all about?
Speaker 1: What's behind that moniker?
Speaker 2: It developed through the prison system of trying to help
Speaker 2: returning citizens. So even as a police officer, I got
Speaker 2: tired of dropping them off at the justice center and
Speaker 2: that was it. So I wanted to assist and help
Speaker 2: them to get out. So I was trying to let
Speaker 2: them know that you can break these strongholds on your life.
Speaker 2: So I would go inside the prisons and tell them
Speaker 2: you can identify the curse. You can confront this curse
Speaker 2: and have the power once you identified it and you've
Speaker 2: confronted it to overpower this stronghold on you be able
Speaker 2: to move it out the way and then destroy it.
Speaker 2: And there is Cursebreakers three hundred. It goes with Gideon's
Speaker 2: three hundred actually from the Bible Judges seven seven people
Speaker 2: related to the movie to three hundred. But it shows
Speaker 2: that this is an elite group and together we can
Speaker 2: defeat and beat Millias if necessary.
Speaker 1: Well, that's beautiful. You know the idea that you know
Speaker 1: thirty years as a police officer and again thanks to
Speaker 1: your service to the community over all those years. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you have stories that we could talk about for
Speaker 1: hours and hours of what you've seen and lived through
Speaker 1: as a police officer. But the idea that you would,
Speaker 1: you know, move from your role as a law enforcer
Speaker 1: locking people up, to go into the lock up and
Speaker 1: try to get them from stopping from preventing them from
Speaker 1: being a recipibus criminal. You know, when you get out,
Speaker 1: there's a better path. I wish more officers would would
Speaker 1: go down that road. Do you think it really does
Speaker 1: some good?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it does some good. Excuse me.
Speaker 2: One thing that was interesting in that journey is that
Speaker 2: a lot of negativity, obviously that the inmates would have.
Speaker 2: And I was doing a series there on forgiveness, and
Speaker 2: for at least two months they actually did not know
Speaker 2: who I was being inside the prison because I was
Speaker 2: engaging with them, going through church service with them, and
Speaker 2: I actually said, you've never asked, and I never told
Speaker 2: you what my profession is. Didn't now I'm a uniform
Speaker 2: off So I sat there and told them, look, I said,
Speaker 2: I'm a Cincinnati police officer. And at that time you
Speaker 2: could have heard a pin drop, and they looked at
Speaker 2: me and said, no, brother Dre, you're not because you've
Speaker 2: treated us fair, You've washed our feet, you showed us love.
Speaker 2: You sat in here with us as if nothing was wrong.
Speaker 2: And I said, this is the way. I know you've
Speaker 2: been offended in certain cases. I know you've gotten extra
Speaker 2: charges on you, but I'm showing you forgiveness is the
Speaker 2: right way. And when a young man stood up and said,
Speaker 2: when I was going to leave here, I was going
Speaker 2: to assassinate a police officer until you were here, and
Speaker 2: now I am not, it showed the impact that there
Speaker 2: needs to be serious conversations and these inmates say, who
Speaker 2: have been done wrong? But police officers, we can together
Speaker 2: by the power of God.
Speaker 3: It shows that we can heal well.
Speaker 1: And you also you pointed out through illustration that the
Speaker 1: police officers, generally speaking, aren't bad people.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 2: Correct, I mean there's this entire narrative that every police
Speaker 2: officer is bad. Right, No, I mean I've worked with them.
Speaker 2: Are there bad cops? Absolutely absolutely? And have how I identified
Speaker 2: and even spoken out on these things. And this is
Speaker 2: why in the past I ran for Sentinel president that
Speaker 2: would have a voice to address these matters.
Speaker 3: Of civil rights and equal rights.
Speaker 2: But the peers felt that I was too vocal and
Speaker 2: they didn't want somebody vocal to speak out on the
Speaker 2: behalfs of police officers.
Speaker 1: I understand that, and you are outspoken, Like I said
Speaker 1: Andre Ewing on Facebook, You'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: All right now, pivoting over your most recent rant, some
Speaker 1: strong words directed at Iris Rawli now having been a
Speaker 1: police officer, she was recently involved in a bit of
Speaker 1: a a verbal altercation with the police officer. Was she
Speaker 1: preventing him from performing his job? And isn't that a
Speaker 1: citable offense when you look right, when you look at it.
Speaker 1: What's your take on that most recent interaction with this
Speaker 1: insane police Police Department officer?
Speaker 2: First of all, was a from my it was officer.
Speaker 2: Her a female and she apparently works down at Finley Marketing,
Speaker 2: does a phenomenal job. I heard She's only been on
Speaker 2: about four years and she works the community. She's out
Speaker 2: on foot and she's trying to make sure that the
Speaker 2: streets are clear and when she gets complaints, and based
Speaker 2: on this interaction, Miss Rowley approaches her during this investigation.
Speaker 2: She already knew the subject. The subject was calm, and
Speaker 2: she still interfeares and she asks, ma'am, could you please
Speaker 2: just stand over there? She said, I don't absolutely have
Speaker 2: to do nothing. I'm going to follow you. And she
Speaker 2: was right in between the subject and the police officer,
Speaker 2: which is extremely dangerous.
Speaker 1: That's outrageous. Yes, now, could the officer have cited her
Speaker 1: for that because she was performing her duty as a
Speaker 1: police officer and Irish really got in between her and
Speaker 1: I don't want the subject the purp whatever, but that
Speaker 1: impeded her ability to do her job and complete the investigation.
Speaker 2: Absolutely obstruction of official business. And this officer was totally professional.
Speaker 2: They were polite, they were on point, and showed high
Speaker 2: integrity and that's what should be praised even in this moment.
Speaker 2: But there's things that need to be identified or you
Speaker 2: going to be an activist or you going to be
Speaker 2: a representation even for the public. But your words is
Speaker 2: that you need to put an officer on your list,
Speaker 2: and they get on your list, then you may be
Speaker 2: able to get them fired. How does that boost the
Speaker 2: morale of police officers? Knowing that this individual is working
Speaker 2: in city council.
Speaker 1: Well, she has been an outspoken critic of the police
Speaker 1: department generally speaking, I mean speck since the riots, that's
Speaker 1: where she came to prominence.
Speaker 2: Correct, Correct, And I've always said that that Irish Rollie
Speaker 2: has done some great work. There were some things that
Speaker 2: were needed and necessary in the city and in dealing
Speaker 2: with policing.
Speaker 3: I agree with that, but collaborative. Correct. But when you
Speaker 3: move to this.
Speaker 2: Degree, what exactly is your motive at this particular point.
Speaker 2: We need to understand that if you, as a city leader,
Speaker 2: are telling everyone that police are no good, we don't
Speaker 2: need police disregard what they say, and this is a
Speaker 2: leader who has a high influence on the community, then
Speaker 2: we need to redirect our energy and find out what
Speaker 2: exactly is going on here because this does not help
Speaker 2: police relations well certainly.
Speaker 1: And circling back to your interactions with the folks that
Speaker 1: have been arrested. We're in the prison system. A guy
Speaker 1: wants to get out of jail and kill a police officer.
Speaker 1: Andre Ewing shows up and shows a different side of
Speaker 1: the police department and a different side of who these
Speaker 1: officers are, and you completely change his heart and mind. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Iris ROLI's out there maintaining that sort of broad brush
Speaker 1: perception of the police department, suggesting that all of them
Speaker 1: are bad.
Speaker 3: Correct, correct, and this helps no one.
Speaker 1: No, and that this is what Smithman screams about all
Speaker 1: the time. How come are elected officials, the council members,
Speaker 1: city manager not elected, I understand, but the mayor aren't
Speaker 1: coming out in more strongly saying positive things about the police,
Speaker 1: you know, like you do pointing out the contrary narrative.
Speaker 1: This is what role models should be doing in order
Speaker 1: to bring about the better sense of saya and a
Speaker 1: greater willingness of everybody within the city to work with
Speaker 1: the police and not consider them an enemy from the
Speaker 1: get go. Yes, that silence is a really terrible thing.
Speaker 1: Iris is saying it out loud, but the silence from
Speaker 1: the elected officials sort of adds to it. Oh, it
Speaker 1: must be true what Iris is saying. The mayor hasn't
Speaker 1: come out and said anything to the contrary exactly.
Speaker 2: And I've always stated this, Every elected official on council
Speaker 2: should do a ride along with the police at least
Speaker 2: once once a week, at least once a week, and
Speaker 2: rotate on different shifts every week, because it amazes me
Speaker 2: how you quarterback the job, but you refuse to get
Speaker 2: in the seat to see exactly what we do. And
Speaker 2: I've challenged individuals on that. I've even when I was
Speaker 2: on the force, I had told the city manager, please
Speaker 2: ride along because there are things that you just don't
Speaker 2: know about that you sit in this seat, then your
Speaker 2: optics will be completely changed. So don't quarterback an officer's
Speaker 2: position until you get in that hot seat on a
Speaker 2: regular basis, because I can say that Smitherman years ago
Speaker 2: did ride along with me, and he had a different
Speaker 2: perception on certain circumstances where he even said, I can't
Speaker 2: believe you didn't taste that guy, because I wouldn't taste
Speaker 2: said exactly looking different in the eyes of a police officer.
Speaker 1: Will continue with Andre Ewing again. Head on to the
Speaker 1: Facebook and check him out and some of the rants
Speaker 1: he goes on. You're gonna love what he has to say.
Speaker 1: Eight to sixteen. Will continue with Andre after these brief words.
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Speaker 1: This eight nineteen on a Friday. Happy Friday to you
Speaker 1: extra special Happy Friday. Andre Ewing in studio after thirty
Speaker 1: years of service the Cincinnata Police Department, engaging in community
Speaker 1: activistm like he did when he was on the police force,
Speaker 1: going into the prisons and trying to talk how to
Speaker 1: break the curse, this concept of curse breakers three hundred
Speaker 1: das behind. But we're pivoting over to some of the
Speaker 1: issues he's been on a ramp about of late. You know,
Speaker 1: iris Roli be included among those. She I guess she's
Speaker 1: serving no other role with the Pervoll administration as than
Speaker 1: some sort of paid advisor Andre if I got that right.
Speaker 2: That is what I've been told is she's a paid advisor,
Speaker 2: and she works as an advisor for the mayor, the chief,
Speaker 2: and the city manager.
Speaker 1: As a consultant, okay, and obviously not being consulted to
Speaker 1: smooth things over with the police department, considering she's going
Speaker 1: after them all the time. And I know you've given
Speaker 1: her props for her work dealing with the collaborative agreement
Speaker 1: after the riots, and she has some you know, some
Speaker 1: good points under her name, But in her role right
Speaker 1: now as an activist, and considering the direction she goes
Speaker 1: with her activism, I got to imagine the only purpose
Speaker 1: she serves with the with the Pervoll administration is that
Speaker 1: she's got such a profound, strong voice within the black
Speaker 1: community that she gets in votes.
Speaker 2: Well how can I say it that Brother Smithman said
Speaker 2: it the best. What exactly is your role? You're getting
Speaker 2: paid by the city tax dollars? What is your role?
Speaker 2: Right and until the city administration allows it to be
Speaker 2: very clear and what she can and cannot do, this
Speaker 2: will be a mystery to city tax payers at this
Speaker 2: particular time.
Speaker 1: And Ken Coober, the FOP president, did file a complaint
Speaker 1: against her for some of the things she said out loud,
Speaker 1: but the city just issued a report giving her a
Speaker 1: pass saying no, this was not in her role in
Speaker 1: any capacity with the city Erico, she said these things
Speaker 1: and her role as a private citizen. Nothing to see here.
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure that I buy that anyway. One
Speaker 1: of the things we talked about off break or on
Speaker 1: the break, you wanted to bring up the whole idea
Speaker 1: of District five and the elimination of District five and
Speaker 1: how that actually impacts the former District five residents.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 2: Correct, And I just want to ask first thing, deepest
Speaker 2: condolences to Krishanda Sierra Wynn, who lost her life I
Speaker 2: made to a tragedy shooting. And to say that this
Speaker 2: is not a threat to the public or community. If
Speaker 2: the individuals or individuals have not been found, then it's
Speaker 2: still a threat.
Speaker 1: As of right now, the best of my knowledgy, they
Speaker 1: have not gotten the person who's responsible for killing her.
Speaker 3: Absolute tragedy. It really is so understand.
Speaker 2: That District five was located at A ten twelve lud Low,
Speaker 2: Okay right at during nineteen fifty seven to twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: Now it was moved due to.
Speaker 2: Complaints about it was cramped and unhealthy conditions, which I
Speaker 2: can speak for because I worked at District five and
Speaker 2: it was cramped and it was unhealthy. So now it's
Speaker 2: occupied by the park board and been renovated.
Speaker 3: But now let's move further.
Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three, District five moves to
Speaker 2: fifty eight to thirty seven Hamilton Avenue.
Speaker 3: So you have them from.
Speaker 2: Ludlow that was close to right there, to UC that
Speaker 2: needs the police as well. You move them a little
Speaker 2: further way up on Hamilton Avenue. Now they say this
Speaker 2: was a citywide redistricting plan that consolidated police district.
Speaker 3: Now listen to this.
Speaker 2: District five Serve College Hill, Mount Airy, North Side, Camp Washington,
Speaker 2: Whitten Hills, Spring Grove, Village, Clifton, and the cuff.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's gone now.
Speaker 2: Now District three had to take over College Hill, mount Airy,
Speaker 2: north side of Camp Washington. District three is on Ferguson Avenue,
Speaker 2: Price Hill area, deep west side. Now imagine the officer
Speaker 2: leaving that location trying to find the best route to
Speaker 2: get to College Hill Man Montanare Queen City's erect bootn
Speaker 2: is crowded, Glen Way is cloud crowded. So you're trying
Speaker 2: to get down to Montana and to work your way
Speaker 2: up Coraine and cross over to get to Hamilton.
Speaker 3: Imagine the time it takes. And now the officer.
Speaker 2: Gets there, does a police report, realizes hey, I got
Speaker 2: to do this report, file some property and do extra
Speaker 2: work and.
Speaker 3: Drive back to District three.
Speaker 2: And people wonder why these issues and police times are
Speaker 2: are are now getting less and less on.
Speaker 1: Time longer and longer. Yes, sir, well, that's explained that completely,
Speaker 1: and all the officers added in the world can't change
Speaker 1: that reality if they got to make that trip.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 1: So not only short officers, we got them like ten
Speaker 1: gazillion miles away from where something might have happened.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, so when we have people say what took you
Speaker 2: so long? Why do you get here? Trust me, officers
Speaker 2: want to get here. But what's interesting is data analysis
Speaker 2: and efficiency. According to the city manager stated that this
Speaker 2: shift presented.
Speaker 3: The best permanent solution for.
Speaker 2: The department moving forward, and the chief stated a response
Speaker 2: time have been carefully analyzed and would not be neglatively affected.
Speaker 1: Come on blind, because you say it out loud doesn't
Speaker 1: make it true.
Speaker 2: Now look at it again right now, and from this leadership,
Speaker 2: this is what we see is a travesty on why
Speaker 2: our police cannot get to locations on time. You just
Speaker 2: do not remove an entire police district from a community
Speaker 2: and say safety is my number one priority.
Speaker 1: And it would know better than someone who did it
Speaker 1: for thirty years, that man Andre Ewing in studio speaking
Speaker 1: truth to power and putting some solid ideas behind what
Speaker 1: he's saying. Andre Ewing on Facebook, you got a spot
Speaker 1: here in the morning show. Andre I love hearing from you,
Speaker 1: and you're always welcome to come in and chime in
Speaker 1: on your thoughts and comments.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure having mate to have a fantastic weekend.
Speaker 1: It's eight twenty six right now, fifty five ks to
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Speaker 1: Flori Flake's gonna tell us all about the Karen Wellington
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
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