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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome. I am Kerry Anne and you're listening

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to Seventh Sanctum and this is yours hours Halloween Special

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as normal. I'm joined by my co ghost co hosts

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Fight Narlie Ghost. I wouldn't be the first person to

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say that, but you know what special, it's special both both.

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How are you? I'm all right? Thank you, speaky as

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usual this evening we'll be enjoying by Jade. Jade is

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someone that we interviewed at the beginning of the year.

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I think it was Yield Gough Witch. Welcome Jade again.

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Thank you so much for coming back.

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Speaker 2: You guys are the very first podcast I was ever on,

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so that's why I was so happy to come back

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and do this again.

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Speaker 1: Have you done more podcast then?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Several. Actually, I think this is going to be

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my fifth, fifth or sixth podcast interview, but you know,

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you guys were my first, so I'm just more than

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happy to do it.

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Speaker 1: Do you reign Supreme?

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Speaker 2: You reigned Supreme?

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Speaker 1: We others?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the first time we did it, we had

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so many we had technical difficulties. Yes, yeah, because I

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was downstairs at first and didn't hear the phone ringing,

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and then somebody, somebody couldn't connect and then we didn't

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have so this one went nice and smooth.

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Speaker 1: Both are so good. I also Yeah, commented on this

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as well. Great observation because we we love agremlin in

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the works that there always seems to be really something

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on my end, isn't it to be fair? I think

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I'm not the co ghost, I'm the co gremlin. I'm

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the gremlin works here. Yeah, I'm reading reading Harry.

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Speaker 3: I'm rereading the Harry Dresden books The Wizard for Hire,

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and he has a problem with technology, so I reckon

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I must just be a closet wizard and not realize it.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm rereading the Mayfair Witch's series from Man right.

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Speaker 1: Ah, I need to read.

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Speaker 2: Very Dresden ones because I haven't read any of them yet.

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Speaker 1: But oh yeah, you read them.

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Speaker 2: Every time I go to read them, I find another series,

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I find a series I want to reread, you know,

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because I'll reread a series five or six times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you definitely, you definitely need to go for

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Harry Dresden. It's definitely worth, definitely worth it. I just think,

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as we're sharing books, I'm going to tell you the

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book that I'm reading, but I've a really story as

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well that's related to it. So I recently went to

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Crime con UK, which is a big convention of true crime.

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There was a guy there and he is he wrote

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a book around John Wayne Gacy. So he is an

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ex Chicago detective and he has some really impressive ghost

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stories linked to when he would go to crime scenes.

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And I never really considered it before. I've never really

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considered that.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's funny you brought up John Wayne Gacy.

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I just watched an amazing documentary about that pertains to

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John Wayne Gazy the other day. I ordered it on

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Amazon Crime. I had to buy it. It's called The

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Clown and the Candy Man. It's based on a podcast asked,

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but it's about how John Wayne Gacy maybe tied to

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this other unknown serial or this other kind of lesser

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known serial killer that happened about ten years before him called.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had literally the same modus, the same like

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mo everything, and it's crazy the connections they had. But

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it's funny you brought up Gaizy because I was literally

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just watching that last night while we were talking about

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doing this.

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I would highly recommend reading this guy. He's

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got but I will share this onto the page as well.

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He has his own podcast, the author, but the book's

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really good. But I started talking to him he was

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doing a book signing, so when a fan girls a

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little bit and got my book signed, and yeah, he

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has some really interesting paranormal experiences relating to that. But

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there was also with John Wayne Gacy. Wasn't there another

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serial killer that was linked to him as well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dean the one that the only one that I

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know is Dean Coral, which Dean Coral they called the

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Houston mass murderers, but he was him and his accomplishments

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killed like thirty five boys and they buried them in

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like in this boat dock or something, and there's they

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both like they disposed of that. They're victims the exact

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same way Coral told his accomplishments or accomplices. He was

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part of this organization. And then Gasey had also talked

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about this organization and it's really it was really well

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put together, but it's called The Clown and the Candy Man,

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and I it was a documentary that they based off

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of a podcast.

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Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, they I think they're just really horrific,

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horrific stories, isn't it. Really. I think a lot of

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the time when I kind of explore these these cases,

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it's always looking from the psychological perspective of why people

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do what they do and looking at that in all

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kind of nurture versus nature kind of way. Yeah, kind

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of Obviously you're never going to be understanding I'd be

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able to understand that kind of frame of mind because

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it's not the norm, obviously, but just looking at those

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components that all need to kind of be put in

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place for this to occur. It's it's a horrific but

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I will share. I will send you the book link, Jade,

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I will do that. I will also share this author

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I would love it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, so we want to sound the glitch again.

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I was like, here we go. We should have done

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this before the show was recorded. Were you tempted them?

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They say, you know, cool on him and he will appear.

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But yes, So we're talking about Halloween and we were

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thinking a little bit about what this might look like.

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We went on a little bit of a side discussion there,

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but I think a really good place to start is

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actually the first show that me and Natalie ever did

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together was a Halloween special. It's the first one that

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actually was published. We'd had done some before that, but

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the first one we published was a Halloween special, and

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we found some really interesting facts around Halloween and some

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traditions and stuff. So I think I think the best

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place to really start is knowing a little bit about

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more about you J. Just revisit that and obviously what

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you do on social media, and then looking a bit

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more about Halloween and Soowyn what that means to you.

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Speaker 2: Well, my name is Jay. My DJ name was DJJ Marvallo,

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which is why I went by that for my social

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media stuff. But you can find me on TikTok, Instagram,

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and Facebook as the Old Gothwitch. And I was literally

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raised in a family of witches. When the old woman

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walked in the room my nana, the temperature changed. I mean,

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you just she was from so far up into the

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mountains of eastern Kentucky that she said going to the

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nearest store was an eight mile walk. And her mother

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was a witch, and her mother was a witch before her.

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It's just kind of my family legacy. It's, you know,

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because the Appalachian Mountains have been there since before the

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birds were in the sky. Literally, they were there when

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the continents were all joined together as Pangaea. And you

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can ask any geology student that they'll tell you the

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exact same thing. And it doesn't take but thirty seconds

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standing there to know that you're standing someplace very, very old.

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I inherited, this old hillbilly form of witchcraft, where you know,

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you use your intentions and what you've got in the

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lore of the area.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and you talk about the mountains, I've actually seen

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there's been a few things that I've seen about everyone's

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shutting their curtains and their blinds at dusk of those mountains.

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Why do people because.

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Speaker 2: You don't you don't look out in the you don't

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look out in the tree line at night in the mountains,

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because you never really know what's looking back out at you.

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I mean, it's it's weird because the old Nanna used

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to say there were old gods in the mountains that

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we'd forgot their names and faces, and there were there

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was things out there that we'd forgotten about, and and

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so you're never quite sure what's looking back at you

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when you look into the tree line in Appalachia, you know,

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you too, so it's better off just not to do it.

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I mean, that's always called superstition. Drawing the curtains at night,

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not looking off into the tree line, not whistling into

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the woods if you hear somebody calling your name of

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the woods. No you didn't. It's just the lore of

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the area, you know. And a lot of those old

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superstitions are based on Scottish, Irish and English superstitions, because

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that's pretty much the inhabitants of the area. We're a

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mixed breed.

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Speaker 3: I have to admit I always place I don't understand,

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you know, these modern houses with the big glass everywhere,

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and there isn't a curtain in sight, and I've been like,

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shut the curtains and then nothing could look in. Even

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when I've been like four flights up, I'm like, you

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never know what's looking in shut curtains.

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Speaker 1: So it's probably some ancessional memory card I.

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Speaker 2: Have cooked up. Everywhere in here, everywhere I lived, there

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are curtains up. There are no welcome mats. Welcome at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was thinking that today as well, about

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the welcome mats, because I was looking at the mats

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and I was like, I'm not putting a welcome in

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front of my dogs.

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Speaker 2: You're never it's going to take that as an invitation

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of walk in and make itself at home.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm picking up. I'm picking up,

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I'm picking up the vibes there. Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 2: Well, in all stories of the fae, the little folk,

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the good neighbors, they have a weird way of taking things,

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you know, like they have a weird way of seeing things.

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And there's a lot of things in this world that

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may not communicate the same way that you and I do.

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So extending an open invitation to whatever it wants to

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walk in my damn house is not my idea of

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a good time. So no, I want a math that

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says go away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've turned into so much of a recluse. Like

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I'm living my best life in my little antique apartment.

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I'm in here baking muffins and you know, making coffee

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and watching whatever I want and having the time of

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my life.

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Speaker 3: Do you know It's I've been on my own for

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twenty years, and I can't imagine sharing a space with somebody.

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Speaker 1: It's just I don't know how people do it. I

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really don't know how people do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm two years old and I'm a bachelor because of

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you know, my relationship ended by my choice, and I'm like, wow,

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why did I ever do anything different? I love being

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by myself, you know, I don't have to clean up

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my own mess. But yeah, that's you know, everywhere I've

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ever lived, though i've had curtains, I've always drawn the

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curtains at night, and that was always the logic I

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heard from it growing up. You never know what might

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be looking at or what might be looking back out

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at you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's curious. So I've always done that and like say,

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for that reason, but without knowing the folklore behind it,

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so I find it kind of Yeah, and especially like

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just lately, we've been having a lot of like bigfoot

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and dog man thing and we've got woods near me,

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obviously not nowhere near as wild as yours, but at

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the same time, like you hear things like say about

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not inviting them in and not giving them food or

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they'll follow you home, and it's just sort of like thinking,

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I'm definitely shooting the curtains just in case. Yeah, And

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I think what were you thinking little about where they

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come from. I know that you said Jay that that

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a lot of the things that you do now come

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from the things that you were taught your grandma and

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in your family. But the origins being Celtic as well

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is really interesting. Sowyn is obviously a Celtic festival originated

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in Ireland and the Celtics. So what does with that

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in mind, what does sooury mean to you?

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Speaker 2: You know, Sowyn Halloween, whatever you want to call it.

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the way I've always felt it is it's the day

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of the year where the barrier between this world and

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the world beyond is the absolute finest, and which is

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Druid's Bards. Of its great thinkers throughout the centuries have

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always said that about that time, that time of year,

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I mean, because All Saints Day is the very next day.

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And it's to me, I've always felt it's the day

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where you are most likely to have some sort of

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paranormal experience, you are most likely to see activity in

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some area, and I think it's I think it goes

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back to that whole thing about witchcraft and the paranormal

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being an undiscovered science. And I think that it's just

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that's the one day of the year where things are

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that the veil is the thinnest, the wall is the

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thinnest by so many spooky things happen on Halloween, and

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you know, everybody's got a good ghost story on Halloween

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and that, and on a personal level, it's just, you know,

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it's that it's like creepy Christmas. I mean, who doesn't

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want you know, who doesn't look forward to saloeen every

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year Halloween?

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, creepy Christmas. I love that. I like that.

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And there's been a real emergence with these boo baskets

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as well, which I am awful by the way, for those.

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Speaker 2: Next year, I'm actually just going to go ahead and

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make a Halloween tree. We're just gonna decorating out.

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Speaker 1: What about you, Natalie, What does it mean for you?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, because around here I get hit by

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a shed load of paranormal activity in September. I always

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get psychic attacks, entities, ghost spirits, everything goes hey why

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around here in September, and then it goes quiet towards October,

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so come Halloween, I'm normally breathing a sigh of relief

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because it's gone quiet. So it's like, and I still

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can't really figure out what it is around here in

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September that sets everything off. So to me, I mean

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when I was young, I mean I suppose we were

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in the middle of Wales in the mountains, so we

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didn't go trick or treating, so I don't have that

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tradition sort of like set through my childhood.

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Speaker 1: So it was more a case of, you know, it's Halloween.

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That's great because it suits my goth nature.

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Speaker 3: But same time, it's never been much different. But one

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thing I've been really bad for Halloween is like with

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a lot of people, it's like buying Halloween decoration things

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to have in the house all year round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, home to course shopping, that's the other. Yes, I've

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got a flying pig hanging up in here that I bought,

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And the best day to do it here is actually,

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uh November first, because everything goes on clearance.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you go to almost like o'clock at

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night the night of Halloween, you can buy all kinds

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of stuff for fifty off.

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Speaker 1: Haven't you got those shops out there, like I can't

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remember what they called the dedicating Halloween stuff Halloween Spirit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called Spirit Halloween. What happens is they'll lease

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out an abandoned store for the season and it'll be

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this giant halloween store for like two months where you

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can buy costume, shotglasses, cups, all kinds of it.

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Speaker 1: Just we need one of those. Do you have one?

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We have one. We have one. It's closer to you

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than it is to me. Oh is it? Yeah? I

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want to say it's in the Midlands.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I have one of the Spirit Halloweens

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literally right around the corner right now. But it was

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in November.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's bad temptation. That is.

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Speaker 2: Temptation. I have to stop myself from running over there

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every other day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I came home today, I went to the garden

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center and came home with a light up ghost ornament

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and a bat tanking my cup.

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Speaker 2: I went to home Depot, which is what you would

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call a garden center today and I almost bought all

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kinds of stuff. I was like, oh man, I was like, no, no, no,

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you came in here for one thing, one thing only.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is some strange ade. Yeah, restraint.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got this. It's like a ten foot tall

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plague doctor that moves and I was like, oh, I

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have like twelve foot ceilings. I could put that in

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the living room.

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The thing is is I would love to do all

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this kind of stuff, but I do share my home

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with my my children, and I think sometimes they're all

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for it until they're not. So I have to be

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mine and full of what I've got. I've got one

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area that I can do, and I do, but.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise that it does phase them.

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Speaker 1: Now not fair, that's fair. Okay. So one of the

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things is, well that is really good for Halloween is

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what we you know when you say about the fat

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the vow thin in is communication with the spirits? Yes,

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so how do you commune? What is your go to?

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And and if you was to call in the spirits

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right now, how would we do that?

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Speaker 2: I don't. Here's the thing. I've been seeing and speaking

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to the dead literally since I was a child. They

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had me, my parents had me tested for schizophrenia. I've

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had myself tested a couple of times. When they're ready

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to talk, they just start talking to me. I actually

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made content about how we found this out. I ran

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into the the spirit of my great grandmother on the

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edge of the woods when I was a child, and

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it's I don't necessarily have to call them in. I mean,

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they just kind of show up when they're ready to talk.

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Speaker 1: If you was to lead communication, So if you was

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to so obviously Mina and Natalie we have a paranormal

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team and sometimes we go to locations and we might

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support people to open communications.

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Speaker 2: I think for like on a location or something like that.

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My favorite is the pendulum Okay. I have a pendulum

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board I take with me and a necklace I use

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for like location just trying to see, you know, what's

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out there and what's going on. I'm not much into

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Wiji boards. I never have been. I honestly think Wigi

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boards are too much of an open channel. I've seen

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two of them work and was not thrilled by the experience.

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Speaker 1: So there are stars do not recommend.

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Speaker 2: I personally do not recommend. I've seen two of them

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work and they didn't come out of a a Milton

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Bradley box and they didn't come off the shelf at

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a record store. The two I've seen work were very old,

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had a stone plant sheet and the letters were burned

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into the board.

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Speaker 1: It's very very elemental boards.

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Speaker 2: All very yeah. So you know it's I've always tried

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to stick with a pendulum when I'm trying to open

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communication somewhere. But typically, I mean, my my honest experience

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with it, I guess I'm just kind of a magnet

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for it. I walk in places and things have started

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happening just because I walked in. There. There's a bar

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down the street that's haunted. I've had a very nice

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conversation with the ghost in the bathroom and there his

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name's Gary.

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Speaker 1: Carry the ghost in the bathroom. We have a Gary ghost.

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But were going from B and M's. We got a

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bottle and they called it Garry the ghost. So why

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are there always toilets, do you? I know, it sounds

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a bit of a weird question. Boy, it does seem

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to be quite popular.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's the first one. I mean for some reason.

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You know, you're in the bathroom, you've got your guard down.

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That's just the perfect place for it to happen. If

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that's how it happened to me. There I was in

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the bathroom. You know, it was a it was a

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golf night, the music was going, the DJ was there.

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I'd had several rounds, and the next thing I know, Gary,

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the ghost who used to frequent the building when it

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was a closet gay club back in the seventies, came

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out of the wall and started having a conversation with me.

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And I'm like, correct that not only am I in

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the bathroom with the ghosts, there's people standing outside wondering

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who I'm talking to, maybe a full on conversation, like

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you couldn't have picked a better.

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Speaker 3: Time, you know, specially Yeah, we might try talking to

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you in the club, but with the music being a

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bit loud, you might not.

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Speaker 1: Have heard him. The bathrooms have the conversation. Yeah, And

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also you have that running water as well. Water is

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an amplifier, isn't it, So you've got that water element.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's actually the point I was just about to

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make their Carrie about the bathroom. You know, running water

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attracts spirit activity. Flowing water is a conduit for it.

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So that's probably another reason why spirit activity always likes

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to happen in the bathroom. That it's a small space.

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You've got lighting, you got electricity, obviously, there's outlets, and

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you have you know at least one or two sources

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of water, so it's actually kind of the perfect storm

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for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting thought. Yeah, carry the ghost to

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Where did you investigate?

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Speaker 2: Love?

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Speaker 1: Where was the last place that you've had And I've gone.

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Speaker 2: An investigation in a while. I've had so much going

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on this year that i just have not been able

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to do it. I'm trying. I want to go up

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to Skaya Took, which is about forty five minutes up

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the road here, the Hillside Mission Cemetery. I'm going to

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take a friend of mine up there. It is the

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most haunted cemetery I've ever been in. I've been in

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it several times in the I feel like we may

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have actually talked about this the last time I was on.

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But there's this weird grave out there called the Witch's Grave,

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and it's got a whole weird story behind it. But

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you can see the lights moving and things going bumping

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the night out there.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we have had this story we want

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to know about Natalie. Have we? Okay, No, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and Skaya Took is about

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forty five minutes up the road. It's a farming community.

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It's a big one, but it's a farming community. There's

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just not a whole lot there. So you take a

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left and you go about fifteen more minutes through all

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this farmland, and it's farmland, farmland, farmland, farmland, farmland, farmland.

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And then all of a sudden, there's this very old cemetery.

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And if you were facing north on the north south

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path through it, and you go all the way to

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the end, and then go to the right. Underneath the tree,

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there is this weird grave that looks like a cigar. Okay,

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the way I heard this story and the way I

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looked it up, now, I didn't prepare any notes for

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this or anything, so don't quote me chapter and verse.

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This woman's husband died at some point, and she kept

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digging him up because she said she could bring him

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back to life. And she did it a couple of times.

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And this happened in either the nineteen hundreds or the

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nineteen twenties. And finally the city of Sky took put

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twelve foot of concrete over and that's what you're looking at.

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And if you look at the side of this thing,

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you can see where somebody scratched into it in a

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very crude manner, but it's still there. This Bible verse

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from the Book of Ruth about Jesus raising Lazarus from

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the dead, okay, and people leave pennies on this grave.

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Or I've been out there at night. I've seen orbs,

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I've seen shadows moving around out there. You can hear

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voices that sound like I don't know if you guys

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have it over there, so I don't know what to

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compare it to, but am radio over here. It's like

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low power radio where you can hear a bunch of

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different things at once and you have to tune it

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in and it's all staticky, that's what it's. You'll hear

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things out there like that a lot, like you're hearing

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voices but you can't make out what it's saying. There's

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a bunch of people bear out there that died in

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the Spanish Influenza. There is a kid that died on

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the path out there on the road in an accident,

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and you can see his legs out there walking around.

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You can see half of them because evidently he felt

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that the color and was cut in half.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's it's my is on my armor.

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Standing up just talking.

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Speaker 1: About it, starting to feel a little bit spooked.

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Speaker 2: Ever been to this place? Something crazy he has happened? Wow, Yeah,

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it's It's one of those places that just standing there,

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you know, you're standing someplace different.

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Speaker 3: It's a coincidence, you know, because it's in the middle

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of nowhere. Do you think it's more active because there's

474
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,839
less interference or do you think it just happens to

475
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:56,920
be there because subconsciously people like you say, have picked

476
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,160
a sight that's different and that I.

477
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,559
Speaker 2: Think it's a combination of a lot of all of

478
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:07,240
those things. To be perfectly honest with you, I think

479
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:10,480
it's a combination of all of those things. I think

480
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:13,799
there are just some places on earth that are made different.

481
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,440
I think there are just some places on earth that

482
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,960
are just you know, the expression we use in Kentucky

483
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:22,799
was cut from a different cloth, you know.

484
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:30,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think that you know these haunted cemeteries?

485
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,079
Would you ever want to This sounds a little morbid,

486
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:35,880
but would you ever want to be buried in a

487
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,559
cemetery that was that haunted? You know, because would you

488
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,160
be worried that you wouldn't be able to pass on?

489
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,119
Or do you think it would.

490
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,839
Speaker 2: Mean, I think I'm going to pass on anyway, so

491
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,839
it didn't matter to me really. You know, I told

492
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,359
my kids I'm going to go back and haunt their cats.

493
00:29:54,079 --> 00:30:01,960
Why the cats, because it would be funny. Anyway, it's

494
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,799
been after torturing my daughter's cat just to see you,

495
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,000
just to get on her nerves.

496
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:14,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm covering my cat's ears. Maybe it's why cats

497
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:16,880
who get a bit freaked out because it is all

498
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,000
these ghosts of people that don't like cats going around going.

499
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I've always good animals could see ghosts way before

500
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:24,880
we could.

501
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:31,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, Yeah, my horses definitely see things.

502
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:38,839
Speaker 1: They definitely saw things. M Yeah, I had to. I've

503
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,640
got one now. He's psychic, but he's more sort of

504
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,559
like telepathic psychic. I don't think.

505
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:46,279
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure how spiritually is. But my last

506
00:30:46,319 --> 00:30:50,400
two both definitely one of them saw them. The other one,

507
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,400
I think knew they were there but didn't see them,

508
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,039
so he was a lot more spooky. But they were

509
00:30:56,039 --> 00:31:00,440
definitely tuned in into stuff like that. They were really

510
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,400
one of them was really spiritual in his nature anyway.

511
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,920
But yeah, they definitely were aware because whenever I had

512
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,720
something of the field once in the dark, and I

513
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:13,559
was standing there looking at doing the wrong thing, looking

514
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:16,400
in the hedgerow, and I had this black shadow thing

515
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:19,279
shoot out of the headerow. It looked like a dementor

516
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:22,480
out of Harry Potter, and it came out shot towards me,

517
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:23,359
and I was that shocked.

518
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,519
Speaker 1: I just didn't move. Both of my horses had been

519
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:29,000
standing behind. Mean, they both scarp it and they were

520
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,720
like eating, we're going started.

521
00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:37,359
Speaker 2: You said you made the mistake of staring into the headerow.

522
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:39,920
That's the exact same thing about staring off into the

523
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,000
tree line and the apple at cham close our windows

524
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:44,400
because things like that happened.

525
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:47,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm quite glad that I must learn not to

526
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,680
do it. It's like I don't whistle in the woods

527
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,599
and I look where I'm going when I'm walking, but

528
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,519
I do tend to look up because I get hyper

529
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:59,039
vigilant sometimes and it's like, yeah, I can't help myself,

530
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:01,119
and I'm looking to see what there. And it's like,

531
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:03,640
like you say, it's it's a bad habit. I mean,

532
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,880
at this point in time, it was my horse's field,

533
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,720
and I was actually checking the psychic boundaries of it

534
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:10,759
because they hadn't been there for very long, so I

535
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,960
negotiated with the thing that spooked them that. I was like,

536
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:15,680
you can come into this field as long as you

537
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,200
mean no harm. So in a way, I was looking

538
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,000
at a headerow because I was looking to see what

539
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:23,359
was there because my horses were bothered about it, so

540
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,160
I was just want them to be safe. But yeah,

541
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,440
it is a bad habit of mine as looking into

542
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,680
the Yeah, I've had it happened a couple of times

543
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,839
now in hedgerows actually not forest hedgerows, and the shadow

544
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:47,640
things come out. It's quite disconcerting. But don't Yeah, I

545
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,079
must learn not to because, like I say, we think

546
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,079
possibly we've got dogmen and bigfoot in the woods near

547
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,039
us or some English version of it. So I must

548
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,559
learn not to horse.

549
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't horses at all, but.

550
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very changed in. There are a lot more

551
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,480
chuned in than people think horses are. And it's like

552
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,559
with cat I mean, I think cats ribes are a

553
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:17,480
bit weird anyway, and I'm not entirely convinced they're not aliens.

554
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,799
But but yeah, but yeah, horses have definitely got a

555
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,279
very spiritual dimension to them. I would definitely pay attention.

556
00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:29,119
If my horses were paying attention to something, I.

557
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: Take your word on that. When I have no interest,

558
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,519
I mean anywhere near a horse.

559
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,799
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Jade looks like he is not

560
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,240
a fan of this whatsoever.

561
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: It's funny because you know, the guy that will teach

562
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,039
you how to curse your neighbor on the internet for

563
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,000
Funds has studied witchcraft his entire life and talks to

564
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:55,480
the dead. I have so many phobias, like I'm absolutely

565
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,559
It's like I'm scared of everything but the occult.

566
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:07,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, that's a bit. Yeah, contraries.

567
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: Would get you more confident in the world than you

568
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,920
really in a weird kind of way sort of.

569
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: I don't leave my house. I have no business near

570
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:21,159
a horse. I don't like water, I don't like heights,

571
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,599
I don't like spiders, I don't like pothoms, I don't

572
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:24,480
like raccoons.

573
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,639
Speaker 1: With you guys near the woods, that's a little bit

574
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:30,920
of it.

575
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: In the woods, see goes practicing witchcraft with his grandmother.

576
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,440
You would be surprised how neurotic I really am.

577
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,519
Speaker 1: Oh that fair. I remember a few years ago I

578
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:52,039
did I did an investigation at the London homes which

579
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,320
during the day is open to public to go in,

580
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,920
and they have actors that will dress up in outfits

581
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,679
so have machine chained saws and stuff like that. And

582
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,880
they were doing a little walk around that guys were

583
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,920
taking us around and I was like, what is that

584
00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:11,800
and they said it's a chainsaw. What have you got chainsaw?

585
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:13,360
Literally in the middle of the room. I was like,

586
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,760
why have you got chainsaw? And they said because the

587
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,159
actors dress up, and then they turned them to change

588
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,119
saw on as part of there. I was like, no,

589
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,480
that's that's horrific. And they were like, you're here to

590
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,280
look for ghosts. I was like, yeah, but ghost an't

591
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,559
going to cut me up with a chainsaw.

592
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not going to trample me like a horse.

593
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,039
A ghost is not going does not have a mouthful

594
00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:40,639
of razor sharp teeth like a parsa.

595
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:47,519
Speaker 1: It's all rational, Jade, It's all rational. I completely. I'm

596
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:48,559
there with you.

597
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,639
Speaker 2: Ye around chasing ghosts. You know, the ship's not going

598
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:56,960
to sink. Well, I'm ghost hunting, you know, because I

599
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:57,960
don't do boats either.

600
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,079
Speaker 1: I think maybe some CBT might be uh, maybe some

601
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:11,920
CBT might help Jade with that. Yeah, it comes in

602
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,719
favor therapy. Let's face some fears. I say that, absolutely

603
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,400
petrified of heights and refusing to go on anything that

604
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:22,320
is a foot off the ground. So you know, ironically,

605
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,719
you know, they say the past life baby is very

606
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,719
often past lives. You must have had a lot of

607
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,800
bad past lives with animal accidents in them.

608
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: This is the thing about Okay, this is to think

609
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,360
about past lives and I'm not this I'm speaking completely

610
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,440
from my experience. Okay, if past lives and reincarnation are

611
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,719
a thing, this is my first go round. Yeah, to

612
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,719
the best of my knowledge. If this is if past

613
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,679
lives and reincarnation are a thing, and I'm not knocking anybody,

614
00:36:55,679 --> 00:36:59,039
I'm not saying they're not. This is my first go around.

615
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: Okay, what makes you say that then, Just I.

616
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,119
Speaker 2: Have absolutely no memories of any other I've gone through

617
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,599
the past life regression therapy, I've gone through all that.

618
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:11,199
I have absolutely no memories of a past life. Okay,

619
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:19,559
I never get woo anything like that. Yeah, it's something

620
00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:24,239
I personally put a lot of energy and I'm into exploring,

621
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:29,079
and this is my first go around.

622
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,679
Speaker 1: Ex Actually that you've been elsewhere and this is your

623
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:36,440
first time on it incarnated.

624
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 2: Rather than very well be. But I've been through the

625
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,000
past life, I've been through the sessions all trying to

626
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:46,679
because I want to know. Yeah, came up with nothing.

627
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,199
Speaker 1: So wow, I bet this is a bit confused by that.

628
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been it was an experience, but yeah, I

629
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,039
went to past life regression therapy that all that, and

630
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,239
there was nothing came up.

631
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: It's like, I've got nothing.

632
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: Nothing.

633
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: He's like.

634
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,039
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, it's skeptical towards or anything.

635
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:16,039
Speaker 3: It's just I was just thinking if you were used

636
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:19,039
to being a metaphysical being, then that would explain why

637
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:19,760
you find.

638
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,559
Speaker 1: The physical world a little bit more scary than the

639
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:26,000
metaphysical will in a way way.

640
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: My ex actually said that to me. She's like does

641
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:32,519
She's like, literally everything but witchcraft makes you nerve.

642
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, wow, but talking to witchcraft, I think

643
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,639
this would be a really good point to interject. So again,

644
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,800
we're doing it Halloween special with that in mind, what

645
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,960
kind of spell work could people do on Halloween? What

646
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,800
would you recommend?

647
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: Halloween is a Halloween and all Saints dy are great

648
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:58,280
times to start new practices. Okay, it is a great

649
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,679
time if there's something you were like, if there's a

650
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:05,039
new form of devnation you're wanting to work with something

651
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:09,679
like that. It's a great time to start working with

652
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,800
things like that because it is the time when the

653
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:17,400
veil is the thinnest. So, in my personal opinion, you

654
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:21,239
have a higher chance for success for things like new

655
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,320
forms of devnation that you're trying. Say, there's a complicated

656
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,400
spell your work you've been thinking about doing, or a

657
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,679
complicated working Halloween and All Saints Day are the perfect

658
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,400
days to do things like that because you have a

659
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,679
great chance for success on that one. I'm always a

660
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:44,639
fan of the Halloween house cleaning too. I'm Selene Halloween

661
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,760
this time of the year, I always clean my house

662
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,840
really really well. That way that anything that may be

663
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,119
lingering has a chance to go ahead and leave and

664
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,400
you know, move on, and it's it's just a great

665
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,800
time to really start doing This is the best time

666
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,559
of the year for spell work period. In my opinion,

667
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,280
if you want to if you want to curse somebody

668
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,760
by all means allowayne, Halloween is the best night of

669
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,000
the year to curse somebody. You got somebody on your mind,

670
00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:22,679
you've got somebody that's bothering you. Curse the ship out

671
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:27,079
of the Halloween Night. I mean A for the aesthetic

672
00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:30,000
and B just for the likelihood of success.

673
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, the aesthetic of Yeah, I suppose

674
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,719
it would put you in the you know, in that

675
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,800
frame mind better, wouldn't it in a weird kind of

676
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,280
way at night?

677
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:47,159
Speaker 2: Curse the crap out of your ops Halloween night for

678
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:50,400
the plot alone, the.

679
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:53,519
Speaker 1: Lightning ground and.

680
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: Well, and you really mean it, get all the spooky

681
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:03,639
stuff out light your cans, really put some effort into it,

682
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:08,360
you know. I personally recommend nightmare jarring people on Halloween.

683
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:10,320
Did that one one time?

684
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,039
Speaker 1: Explain that was not mad jarring.

685
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:19,039
Speaker 2: I have this video up that got like eighty thousand

686
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:23,519
views and it's six minutes long. It's a spell I

687
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:26,079
did where I made a nightmare jar for somebody that

688
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:29,320
had really made me mad. They had really screwed me

689
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,079
over on something, and it was one of the old

690
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:37,199
witch's tricks. I did it to my brother one time

691
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,719
over something when we were when I was a teenager,

692
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,880
and he woke up in the middle of the night

693
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:43,960
scream me, it will give you night. It can get

694
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,400
people no care so bad. It's pathetic. And it's but yeah,

695
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,400
I made a video about it. It's called the Nightmare Jar.

696
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,760
It went viral. It was six minutes long, which was

697
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,039
why I was shocked it went viral because it's not

698
00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:59,920
an easy one to do. But I was so mad

699
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:03,239
about the way this went down. I was like, I'm

700
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:09,760
making content about this, but it involves a few different things.

701
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,199
It's not an easy one to do. Matter of fact. Well, no,

702
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,559
it's in the other room. I was about saying, I'd

703
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:15,320
go grab it and show it to you, but it's

704
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,519
down the hall. But Halloween's a great night to perform it.

705
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:22,360
And if you're interested, you can find it on my

706
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,599
TikTok and on my my YouTube.

707
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: I think I put it up on Okay, perfect, thank

708
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:37,119
you for that. Okay, So moving into the spookier element,

709
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,119
I think it'd be really good if have you got

710
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:43,920
any really interesting ghost stories or stories that have happened.

711
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,199
They're a bit speaking.

712
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,039
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, like I was Tony at

713
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:49,239
the beginning. I literally grew up in a haunted house.

714
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,440
My dad wanted We moved from Kentucky to Florida when

715
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,039
I was eleven. My dad wanted to move to a

716
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:03,000
warmer climate, guys. He had breathing issues from the Vietnam War,

717
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,280
and so he had a brother that lived at Florida

718
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,320
and we wound up down there living out or He

719
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,320
wanted to move out into the swamp, so he went

720
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,880
down to the courthouse and bought this house that was

721
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,199
owned by a contractor before that it went into foreclosure

722
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,679
or something. So we picked it up dirt sheeap and

723
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,480
it had an extension onto it, and you know, he

724
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,880
needed some work, but my dad was really handy and

725
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,519
so were my brothers, and they were going to build

726
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:32,480
a new house on it anyway, So they got land

727
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:37,239
house everything for cheap. We went out there to take

728
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,360
a look at it, and me and the old man

729
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:42,760
are walking around this place and I walked into the

730
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,039
back bedroom, which was the master bedroom, and I watched

731
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:49,599
the bathroom door slam shut. There was nobody in the

732
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:51,000
house but me and Pop and he was on the

733
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,639
other end of it. I was the only other one

734
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:57,039
down there, and that was my first experience with this house,

735
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,639
watching that door slam shut. It wasn't long after we

736
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:05,800
moved in that the nightmare started. Nana still lived with

737
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,039
us at the time. She was still alive and She

738
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:12,320
used to say, whatever's here has been here a long time.

739
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,559
I used to see I would wake up in the

740
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:19,159
middle of the night and see a man standing in

741
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:22,039
my room in a hat and a suit with no face.

742
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:26,840
That one on my TikTok one day. One night, I

743
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,079
woke up in the middle of the night there were

744
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:30,679
faces in my TV's screens staring at me, and the

745
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,400
TV wasn't on.

746
00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:35,039
Speaker 1: Now that would freak me out. That one would be.

747
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 2: You know, doors would lock themselves sometimes. I would, like

748
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,760
I would be able to hear the door in my

749
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,519
bedroom slam shut while I was in the shower, Like

750
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:50,239
I would hear the lock on the door.

751
00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: Do you think not saying it was in our long time?

752
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,840
Did you do you think it was human or something else?

753
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: I think it was something entirely else because I never

754
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:06,920
figured out what this was, because I tried to establish

755
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:12,000
contact several times. So did the old witch. And my

756
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:14,800
parents still live on the property. To this day, I've

757
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,079
never gotten anywhere with whatever's there.

758
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: Oh wow, was it still? Is it still active? Then?

759
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: Even to this day, my mom tells me all the

760
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,039
time that their, you know, the cabinets open. She sees

761
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:33,920
blue lights flying around in the living room. My mom

762
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:36,960
swears up and down at night she hears people walking

763
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,840
around in there and they've that's not the same house

764
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,000
that's on the property. My parents knocked it down and

765
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,519
built a whole nother home on the property. So yeah,

766
00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:48,440
it's very much still active.

767
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: Doesn't your parents, I mean that long it's.

768
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:57,199
Speaker 2: It's I mean they've lived there thirty years. I mean

769
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:04,519
my pops care less and my mom just kind of

770
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:08,159
ignores it, but she'll talk about it sometimes. But you know,

771
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,599
Florida has water running all the way underneath it. It

772
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:15,840
has its own awkward for and there's a lot of

773
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,280
water and you know, different elements in the ground. So

774
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:25,400
I think that was part of it too. But yeah,

775
00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:28,199
there was. Oh I told this story. I maybe it

776
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,199
TikTok about this one day. Do you guys did you

777
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:34,760
guys play dodgeball in school in the UK? Do you

778
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,760
know what dodgeball is?

779
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

780
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the red rubber half inflated ball. I

781
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,679
had one of those and it was in my bedroom

782
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,760
and I had one of those the movie Aladdin, one

783
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,079
of those old style alarm clocks, but it was like

784
00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:52,840
the Disney version of it, so it was big and

785
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,079
exaggerated and had the two huge bells and the hammer

786
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:58,519
in between, but it had the Laddin on it. My

787
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:02,400
mom got it for me. I was by myself one

788
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,760
day and I kept hearing that alarm going ding ding

789
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:09,920
thing thing, and I knew it was turned off and

790
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,840
there was no alarm set. And then all of a sudden,

791
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,920
the clock went off and that red ball came flying

792
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,840
out of my bedroom at me. I was on my

793
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,519
way down the hall to find out what was going on.

794
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,119
Uh yeah, so that one happened. I used to wake

795
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:28,719
up having the worst nightmares in that house. I would

796
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,280
wake up it wasn't an ominous voice, but I would

797
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,760
wake up in the build of the night to someone

798
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:38,079
telling me I needed to leave right now, and someone else.

799
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: Just me, how did you cope with that? And you know,

800
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,960
like having to live with that every day? Did did

801
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,599
you just get used to it in the end or

802
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:48,320
is it just.

803
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: Got used to it? I mean I didn't have much

804
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,280
of a choice to be perfect. You know, I was eleven.

805
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,280
It's all started and I can hear my old man.

806
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,679
Now that's great. At this place is haunted. We ain't moving,

807
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,239
and I have all learned to get.

808
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:10,199
Speaker 1: Along Wicks, isn't it really?

809
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,519
Speaker 2: It's like here is day with a beer in his

810
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:15,920
hand and a cigarette hanging off of his lip. I

811
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,599
don't care if this place haunted. We're not moving. I

812
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:25,199
paid for it. Yeah, all right, pop, Yeah, there's never

813
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,559
anything it was always or anything harmful. It was always

814
00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:30,960
just weird.

815
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

816
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said, it so happens to this day.

817
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: It might.

818
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,519
Speaker 2: If I don't think I would get cussed out for

819
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:41,519
doing it. I'd call my mom right now and put

820
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:46,360
her on the h it's about it. But she's probably

821
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,840
in the middle of her afternoon nap.

822
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: That'll make for another really interesting podcast.

823
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 2: Yes, it would.

824
00:48:55,119 --> 00:49:00,519
Speaker 1: For being cusked out by Jade's boom, Jay's and then

825
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:02,039
also Jay's mum cussing this out.

826
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:05,079
Speaker 2: That'd be amazing. Well, no, no, she wouldn't cush you out.

827
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:10,320
She would cuss me out. The nicest person on earth

828
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:13,320
to y'all, and oh, it's no problem. I'd love talking

829
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,639
to me. On the other hand, you know, I nap

830
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,519
in the afternoon.

831
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So we spoke a little bit about you moving

832
00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:28,639
into your new property and it being quite haunted there

833
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:29,159
as well.

834
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:35,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have extended the olive branches and I have

835
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:40,000
tried to make contact and we're we're establishing things. I'm

836
00:49:40,039 --> 00:49:42,079
wondering if during the winter time it's going to get

837
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,280
a little bit more active, but I've yet to see

838
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,440
anything full on. But you know, nobody in There's a

839
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,280
guy that lives above me and he doesn't listen to

840
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,199
jazz music or smoke cigarettes.

841
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, because you're hearing that, well, I'm not sure

842
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,280
he had a bit of a conversation before he started recording,

843
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:03,719
do we Yeah, so that would be really interesting, actually,

844
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,920
I think I would be interesting to find out.

845
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've I keep saying I'm going to

846
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:15,719
go down to the Tulsa County Historical Society and see

847
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,480
what i can find out about this building. I just

848
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:20,800
haven't made it yet. But that's been the only thing

849
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:27,199
overt so far. Now I have like in the middle

850
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,920
of the night or in the mornings when I'm getting

851
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,559
ready to go to work or when I'm coming home,

852
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:34,000
I thought I saw some shadows moving around in the

853
00:50:34,039 --> 00:50:36,760
living room, but it was one of those things out

854
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,280
of the corner of my eye. I haven't actually caught

855
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,079
anything yet. I think I'm going to set up some

856
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:45,400
cameras in here though.

857
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: And see.

858
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 2: Find out in the middle of the night. That would

859
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,400
be a lot of fun.

860
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,199
Speaker 1: My only recommendation is, and this might seem so obvious,

861
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,679
but it's not. I've never really considered this. We use

862
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,320
CCTV as part of our equipment, so when we go

863
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,159
to investigations, that's what we do. Watching back can be

864
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:06,480
quite tedious. However, we have no mics on our CCTV,

865
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:09,480
and it would be really really interesting if we could

866
00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:11,360
have that element to it. So I would say, if

867
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,079
you do, always get one of a mic or that

868
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:15,960
can pick up sound.

869
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 2: Oh well, you know, I've been a musician in an

870
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,320
audio visual nerd my entire life, so I can wreck

871
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,880
the place up with all kinds of microphones. I mean,

872
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,880
matter of fact, I think I'll do that to you.

873
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,079
I'll just set up a separate audio recorder when I

874
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:30,480
do this.

875
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,199
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And another fun thing that we like to do

876
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,679
is something called it's called something else, but what we

877
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:41,280
call it sensory deprivation. It's an experiment where you buy

878
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:46,760
and fold and use noise cuncs and headphones and connects

879
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,559
it to a SB seven spirit box. So essentially it's

880
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:54,400
that am F and frequency if you're able to do

881
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,840
that experiment with someone else, so they've been under that

882
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,000
sensory deprivation and you ask questions they can't hear. If

883
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,280
it's also really interesting to see what comes through as well.

884
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,480
Fee that quite?

885
00:52:05,639 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 2: I want to try that one too. I've thought about

886
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,079
doing a session like that sometimes this winter, because it's

887
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,079
it's gonna it's going to be a cold winter here

888
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:18,360
and I'm going to be spending a lot of time indoors,

889
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,079
so you know, it's going to be the perfect opportunity

890
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:24,320
to kind of really figure out who I'm living with

891
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,440
and what I'm living with.

892
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:29,559
Speaker 3: Do you don't mind investigating your own home then, because

893
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,199
you know a lot of people sort of don't like

894
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:32,800
doing that.

895
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: But I mean to be.

896
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,079
Speaker 3: Fair, if you're active in anyway, I suppose it's relative,

897
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:37,559
isn't it.

898
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: I guess I'm I guess I'm just the arrogant American.

899
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:49,039
I don't care what if it's my house. You know,

900
00:52:49,199 --> 00:52:51,159
this is supposed to be the most haunted place on earth.

901
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:55,800
You know, I'll walk in what up ghosts at your boy?

902
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,960
I have absolutely no qualms about doing that.

903
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: You're not bringing anything more out that isn't already there

904
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,440
or that you're not aware of. I suppose, so it's

905
00:53:05,519 --> 00:53:07,320
not fingers.

906
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,559
Speaker 2: I practiced in the kitchen. I mean, how bad is

907
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:17,639
it really going to get? Yeah, the kitchen and in

908
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:20,480
the bedroom and in the living room and everywhere else.

909
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,559
I mean, if it's not already haunted, it will be

910
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:24,639
by the time I move out.

911
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: Do you have people in your area that you that

912
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:32,360
do paranorl that you're quite connected with.

913
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,199
Speaker 2: No, I'm a completely solitary practitioner on just about everything

914
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:44,239
I am. That's just how I am. I've had some

915
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:53,559
very negative experiences with other paranormal investigators and other practicing witches,

916
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,920
and so I just I don't even get involved in

917
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:04,239
it because it's it's always seems like a lot of

918
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:09,000
drama in an ego contest. I avoid cove in life

919
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,679
and all together. I get invited to coven meetings all

920
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,119
the time, and I'm just like, No, I get invited

921
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:19,079
to go participate in I've been invited to go participate

922
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:26,599
in a couple of investigations with groups here in Oklahoma,

923
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:29,639
and I'm just like, I'm not a people person. For

924
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:31,400
some reason, I find it way easier to sit and

925
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,239
talk to my phone than I do the camera on

926
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,880
my phone than it is to actually socialize. So but

927
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,719
that's and it's also because I have had some very

928
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:47,440
negative experiences with people doing that, So.

929
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 1: That's fair enough. I know we hear quite a lot

930
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,360
about power unity when it comes to paranel investigations, but

931
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,000
I've been doing this for about ten years now, maybe

932
00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:55,800
a bit more, and there always seems to be a

933
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:01,599
level of competitiveness, egos.

934
00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: It's not just competitiveness, it's it's also people do stuff

935
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,400
that's just dumb and I'm not comfortable with. Yeah, I heard.

936
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,760
I actually went in an investigation with someone and they

937
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,239
were like, I want to do a blood offering. And

938
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,679
I'm like, I'm out, Like I'm done. And that was

939
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,320
in the first minutes So an investigation.

940
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,679
Speaker 1: They wanted to do a blood offering? What was it?

941
00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:28,679
What did they want? What was the goal?

942
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,559
Speaker 2: Enough to find out I was. This was five minutes

943
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:34,880
into it and he's like, I'm going to do a

944
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,639
blood offering to kick this off, and I was like, Bye.

945
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: That's what they opened with that wud Yeah that Evey

946
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,800
would have been unhinged.

947
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:48,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have the expression over here out of pocket.

948
00:55:48,639 --> 00:55:50,880
That was completely out of pocket and I was outdoors.

949
00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:56,360
I was gone, yeah, and that that's been easily fifteen

950
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,079
years ago, and I think that was the last time

951
00:55:58,119 --> 00:55:59,559
I did anything like that.

952
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:04,079
Speaker 1: That that's enough people in for me, Thank you for me.

953
00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:12,639
Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny. It's funny you we brought

954
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:16,599
that up people and somebody had found my daughter on

955
00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:21,280
Instagram and had messaged her and or was like, so,

956
00:56:21,639 --> 00:56:24,320
what's what's he like, what's the inside scoop? She's like,

957
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,920
we watched three runs on television and eat ice cream together.

958
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:32,280
I mean, my dad doesn't like people. He barely you know, Like,

959
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:33,760
what do you think he was doing?

960
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: That's some investigation skills.

961
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:42,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I just that's how I am

962
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:45,440
about this. I would much rather sit down and have

963
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:49,440
educated conversation with people who about their own experiences than

964
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:54,280
actually go out and go researching or go hunting with people,

965
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:59,800
because it seems like investigating when it's more than your friend. Always,

966
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:01,760
when it's like, you know, especially if they have their

967
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:06,000
own team, their own you know, logos, et cetera, et cetera,

968
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,639
et cetera. At least on this side of the pond,

969
00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:10,679
it always turns into an ego trip. It's always like

970
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,199
someone's trying to get a television show or something out

971
00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:13,519
of it.

972
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:22,239
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. Well, maybe we'll connect, Maybe maybe we

973
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,519
can connect and be.

974
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: Ever on that side of the pond. I would love

975
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,800
to go investigate with y'all though.

976
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,599
Speaker 1: That would be a blast, absolutely, and if we're over

977
00:57:31,679 --> 00:57:34,719
that side of the Although where you are is huge

978
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:38,440
compared to where we are, we're a lot smaller.

979
00:57:40,119 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah in Texas yet. I mean you can

980
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,599
literally spend all day driving across Texas and still be

981
00:57:46,719 --> 00:57:47,400
in Texas.

982
00:57:47,719 --> 00:57:48,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's mental.

983
00:57:49,639 --> 00:57:53,679
Speaker 2: You can you know, Houston, Texas is two hours away

984
00:57:53,679 --> 00:57:54,840
from Houston, Texas.

985
00:57:56,239 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

986
00:57:56,639 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: See, we could start one end of the country and

987
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,119
kind of near enough be the other end by the

988
00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:03,079
end of the day if he was to just keep

989
00:58:03,159 --> 00:58:09,800
driving continuously. Yeah, but we've officially come to the end

990
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,360
of the show. Thank you, Jane. It's been a really

991
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:13,440
good change you again.

992
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,199
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the blast being on again, I mean I

993
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:19,320
would love to anytime you want me on you know,

994
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how to get a hold.

995
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:31,719
Speaker 1: Of me, Yeah, definitely. Let yeah next, Saleren.

996
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Speaker 2: Yeah much, I've appreciated you guys are always a blast.

997
00:58:43,039 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. Where can everyone find you. Where can

998
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they find your content, especially at night mare Jo tell

999
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us about that. Where can we find it all?

1000
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Speaker 2: It's on TikTok yield goth Witch. You can find me

1001
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on Instagram yield goth Witch. You can find me on

1002
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YouTube yell goth which, and you can find me on

1003
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Patreon as yield goth Witch. My Patreon is two dollars

1004
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a month. That's less than the price of a cup

1005
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:10,400
of coffee. And I post even more bonus witch stuff

1006
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,800
over there the nightmare Jar. It's on my TikTok. I

1007
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,039
don't know if it's a pinned video or not, but

1008
00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:20,639
it's up there and it went viral for six minutes long.

1009
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,679
It went viral, which shocked the shit out of me.

1010
00:59:25,159 --> 00:59:28,400
I wants to wash my mouth. Six six minute videos

1011
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don't go viral.

1012
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,679
Speaker 1: People in the world.

1013
00:59:33,679 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: Well, the comments section, they're like, I can feel your

1014
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,199
anger coming through this video because I was quite mad

1015
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,039
when I made it.

1016
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Speaker 1: Effect Well, thank you too much for sharing your your

1017
00:59:47,519 --> 00:59:51,960
faults and your your journey. It's for really nice and yeah,

1018
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,559
I wish everyone bless us out with a happy Halloween.

1019
01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:01,199
Speaker 2: No