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Speaker 3: He is a former BYU rugby player.

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Speaker 4: But he is our bucket getter heat arguably is the

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best basketball player amongst the ESPN the Fan crew.

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Speaker 3: Let's welcome in Ronald the three man weaver.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Running? What's up?

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Speaker 5: I'm a I'm a team guy, Ben.

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Speaker 6: I want to have the best possible team.

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Speaker 5: That's what I want. So I want the ESPN the

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Speaker 3: The girthy Gernlujah.

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Speaker 1: I want the girty Gern. I want the mond goose Bin.

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Speaker 6: I want everybody that you can think of, Brent Hammer,

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who's in the post game. I want a team who's

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our shooter. I want to have the best basketball teams.

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we have the best basketball team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone doing their one eleventh here at esbing a fan,

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everyone doing lifting where they stand. Let's also welcome into

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the show. Brett always bring in the hammer. Hammertime show was.

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Speaker 3: Up, Bro. Yeah, I need to get back in shape.

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I haven't played basketball probably rout the year.

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Speaker 7: So I can't say that I could run through Ronnie today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, what are you in shape for right now?

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pushing weight, which I it doesn't really you say get

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Speaker 1: Shape for like the spurts and the sprints and the cardio.

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Speaker 3: So just going to the gym is not enough to

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Speaker 4: Playing half court though, still being the fan team, they

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Speaker 1: Half. What are we doing?

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Speaker 7: How am I supposed to score in the fast break action?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't about that life. I'm like a Dwarf

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on Lord of the Rings dangerous over short distances, but

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Speaker 3: Brand I was bringing the hammer. Great to have you here.

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Speaker 4: Let's also welcome into the show one of my favorite guests,

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maybe my favorite guests, my favorite co host ever.

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Speaker 3: He's been with us many, many years. Now, let's welcome

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in the g Man, Brandon Tigerney.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks in a row. That's just like your walkout music.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, man, I had to do it again.

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Speaker 1: Is that just gonna be a thing now?

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Speaker 8: So, I mean not why not the why not? The

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awesome intro that the Mets Reliever had. I'd like that,

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but no, I get bon Jovi, stop it, stop it.

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Speaker 3: It could get vetoed by the producer. Those problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, you can basically do whatever he wants.

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm out on the basketball team.

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Speaker 3: G Man, you were the Golden Girl.

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Speaker 1: Was back in the day.

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Speaker 8: It started at the Union seventeenth or Union seventeen, I was, man,

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I made the second to last cut for the JB.

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Speaker 4: Basketball team, second to last cut j V and then

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I was basketball team.

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Speaker 1: Okay, then I was you and Michael Jordan, So.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right there, bro with MJ he got cut too.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's probably the similarities and right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well technically he was cut from the varsity team

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that had to play JV.

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Speaker 4: It was his fresh freshman year. He was like his

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freshman year, Gott cut from Varsio.

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Speaker 1: Woe is me, MJ woe is me?

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Speaker 3: You had played JV ball, you had to play on

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like six years old, going on Saturday with my brothers

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to like a like a steak like multi stake basketball tournament.

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the fights and all the suing.

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Speaker 7: You guys, all the people that sued the Church of

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Jesus Christ latterday Saints at these tournaments, because of these

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basketball tournaments.

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Speaker 3: You you ruined it for the rest of us.

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Speaker 4: You ruined it all in the quest for filthy lucre

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because oh you got you got undercut on a fast

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break and broke your spine.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, sorry, off, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: You broke your femur, you know, and and they had

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a multi legamentous disruption in your knee and you could

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Speaker 3: Growing up, woe is me.

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Speaker 4: You ruined it for the rest of us, so none

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of us, none of the rest of us could have

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fun on the weekends. Like remember the softball the saw,

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like the soft roftball, slow pitch, that was big, that

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was big amongst the Mormons, Like we were very good

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Speaker 3: Basketball was next level. Oh yeah, what's that Ronnie multiple time?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know, but you know, now you wonder why

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all the kids are just sitting in doors all day

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Speaker 3: You know, we don't have these.

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Speaker 8: That's literally all I did growing up. Let's play basket

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that's all I did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't, we don't have Yeah, there you go.

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We don't have basketball, we don't have softball anymore.

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Speaker 3: And we don't have boy Scouts anymore.

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Speaker 4: People ruin things for different reasons, obviously lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: I'm very angry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: They told me if I got my Eagle Scout that

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when I graduated, I could have any CEO Fortune five

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hundred job that I wanted as long as I.

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Speaker 1: Put it on my resume. That's all I heard growing up.

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If you don't get your Eagle Skoy, you will be

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respected in life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I do think there's something to the Eagle

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Speaker 7: Like I like to tell people. Look, I like to

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tell people all the time, like this is the truth

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of the matter.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And this happens in across many different industries, many different

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professional pathways. In Utah, Okay, every single market, every single

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profession is saturated with high quality, really hard working, well educated,

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prim trim proper professionals, and so like, you compare yourself

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to those individors, Like, man, I'm just average. Go into

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another geography, I tell people, Go into a different state,

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go compete in the same field somewhere else, and you'll

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be surprised that you actually you may be the best there.

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in Utah, Arizona, and in California like Orange County, and

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that's it, that's where we all live.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 3: G Man?

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Speaker 1: No, you were not wrong.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, like you know, there's plenty of practitioners

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that take pay cuts to come to Utah.

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Speaker 3: My dad took right, yeah, and he's one of the

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best in his industry. Right, he's very good, very good.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Uh, it's a die tribe. We're going off kilter

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right off the bat. We appreciate you guys all tuning in,

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Appreciate you guys all being a part of the show today.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get it all.

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schedule is out. How we feeling about the schedule ladies

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Speaker 8: I have some mixed emotions about it, but overall, I

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think it's a very very good schedule, one of the

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better schedules I think b way You's ever had. That

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Notre Dame at home on October seventeenth is just glaring.

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Speaker 1: It clares right at you. It's like, really, this is happening.

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Speaker 8: B WAYU is hosting Notre Dame in mid October at

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label Edwards Stadium.

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Speaker 1: My goodness, thank you USC, Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Cal, thank you Cal. That's right, Cal and USC.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame has a cake schedule.

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and it's going.

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Speaker 1: To be a big, big, big game.

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Speaker 8: If the way you can do it's part which is

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gonna be interesting. The Arizona game second week of the year,

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that's interesting to me.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think Arizona is a good team. I think there's

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a sleep twelve.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, they lose their quarterback. That's gonna hurt. But other

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than that, Arizona is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Colorad State everyone's oh, Colorad State's attracted. No, it's not

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Colorrale State was two and ten last year.

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Speaker 8: They're not good. Oh but they have Matt Mitchell and

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he developed bear Bomber. Yeah, that could help.

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Speaker 1: Him a little bit.

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Speaker 8: But come on, stop it, Colorile State. Nah, that's your

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warm up for conference at CCU. I don't like the

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bye week as early as it is. That's the one criticism,

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and everyone's gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: I'm with them having a bye game third week of

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the year. No, I don't. I don't like the fourth

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week of the year. To be specific, after the third game.

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Speaker 8: I like having Iowa stayed as a warm up leading

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up to the note game.

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Speaker 1: Iowa State. It's a mess.

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Speaker 8: I cannot imagine them being any type of formidable fight.

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Speaker 4: They did pick up Micah Harper former BYU defens.

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Speaker 1: For Micah Harper.

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Speaker 8: You see, up could be the classic trap game because

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of Sandwich in between Notre Dame and Arizona State, which

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is probably gonna be a really good team again.

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Speaker 1: Uh this coming year at Utah, I don't like it.

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Speaker 8: I'll say this to it should be played the weekend

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of Thanksgiving last in the year.

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Speaker 1: Every year. I'm never gonna get off that.

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Speaker 8: Baylor, Kansas, Cincinnati, Yeah, BA should be able to finish

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strong October.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be all about October for this schedule. It's man,

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it just looks good.

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Speaker 8: That home schedule Arizona, Arizona State too natural rivalries, Yep,

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right there, Notre Dame. Are you kidding me? Baylor? Who

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knows about Baylor? If they're gonna be good, I don't know.

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I think they'll be pretty good this year.

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Speaker 1: Every year, I think Baylor's gonna be good, and every

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year they're not. Yeah. I'm the same way with TCU.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's valid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So and TCU lost, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Played well in their bowl game against USC though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, looks really good. Sandy Dice is a good coach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is a good coach. They did look really good.

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So yeah, I like it. Thumbs up except for the

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early Byer week. I think it's a fantastic schedule.

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Speaker 3: So obviously.

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Speaker 4: Big twelve reveal their twenty twenty six football schedule for

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all sixteen team sixteen league members, noting that select Saturday

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games may be adjusted to select Fat Friday games other

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special days Black Friday. With game announcements in the coming weeks,

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kickoff times and network selections by Big twelve television partners ESPN, Fox,

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and T and T Sports will be announced later in

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the year. So I think the best thing about this

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is you have seven home games. Seven home games, that's

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the perfect number per the Hebrews, including welcoming as you mentioned,

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Notre Dame the Quitting Irish to Pro October seventeenth for

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the midseason non conference matchup at Level Edwards Stadium. The

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home schedule kicks off the season with the opener against

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in state foe Utah Tech, followed by our early season

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Big Twelve matchup hosting Arizona September twelve. Other featured home

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games include dates and Iowa State October tenth and Arizona

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State October thirty first, Bagular November fourteenth, and Cincinnati November

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twenty eighth in the regular season finale.

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Speaker 3: The Cougars will play five.

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Speaker 4: Away contest in twenty twenty six face in Colorado State

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Utah November seventh, in Kansas November twenty first, on the road.

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The twenty twenty sixth season is based on a thirteen

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week calendar, with a one open week during the twelve

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game schedule. BoA's bye week takes place at the end

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of September, with no games scheduled on September twenty six.

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of the season. You get it early that maybe hurts

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you a bit. I remember you had two bye weeks

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this last year. And look the strengthening ditioning staff, the

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medical staff. They've done a tremendous job of keeping these

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guys healthy. BA football has been one of the healthiest

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programs over the last two years.

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Speaker 3: You've had.

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Speaker 4: You've had a few season ending injuries, but you have

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good depth and playmaking ability and very few raw, very

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few key rosti attricians that have impacted your win lost record.

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Speaker 8: I'd like the season to start it on August thirtieth.

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Speaker 3: It needs to start actually, like they probably mid August.

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Speaker 8: Then you're four to two buys if you're starting August

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August thirtieth, like you did this this past year. But

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whatever that it is what it is. That's probably when

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Utah Tech could play. I don't know, but I love

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opening against Utah Tech. That's what big programs do. Criddle,

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that's what big program Yeah, yeah, you take on the Patsy.

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With all due respect to Utah Tech. That's kind of

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what you are. You wade into it, you know. Then

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then Arizona that's gonna be real. That's gonna be a

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good game, that's gonna be very competitive.

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Speaker 4: I believe Brett always bringing the hammer. Thoughts, takeaways, comments

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on this schedule.

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Speaker 7: I feel one hundred times better about this year's schedule

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than I did about last year's schedule.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not even close to me.

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Speaker 7: I absolutely because again number number one, you don't have

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to see Texas Tech this year sounds good to me.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be a different team this year. How good

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Speaker 7: We don't know, because again, if you think you know

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what the Big twelve is gonna be, I don't believe

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a single thing you have to say after that, because

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you just can't guess what's gonna happen in this conference.

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But I am glad you don't have to see Texas Tech.

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I'm really excited about Arizona State coming to Provo because

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I think because VOI didn't see them last year, I

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think we forgot about what happened in that meeting in

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the state of Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I think there's players on this team who.

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Speaker 7: Have get back with the Sun Devils that they want,

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and I think there's a ton of fans who want

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get back for the Arizona State Sun Devil.

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Speaker 1: So I think that one is gonna be a lot

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Speaker 7: I think because they don't have Sam Levitt Orncampskataboo, that

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helps a lot because we don't know what this.

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Speaker 3: Team is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Not to their stud receiver.

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Speaker 7: Yep, you don't have Jordan Tyson, so at Kenny Dillingham

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still a good coach, but like they lost, probably those

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are probably three of the top players in the Big

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Twelve over the last three years. So I'm really excited

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about the Arizona State game. I think that's gonna be

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a lot of fun. The other big takeaway is, and

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we knew this already, but BYU basically has the power

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to really shake up Notre Dame season because they have,

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as you mentioned, g Man a cakewalk of a schedule

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in college football this year. If they come to Provo

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and after all of this, oh well, we'd rather play

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in Vegas in the Shamrock Series than play in Provo

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because we're too big for that. We were also too

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big to play in the Pop Tarts Bowl. If they

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come to Provo and do anything other than own the Cougars,

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I think nationally people will say, you really talked a

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big game for not necessarily bringing it. That was your

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opportunity for your marquee win of the season, and now

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you don't have anything to show for it, So that

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I think is a big deal. But looking at the

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rest of this you really don't have like a pure

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three game gauntlet. I think I think you're probably your

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toughest spot is gonna be Arizona State Utah, but you

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don't have what you have last year, which was Texas

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Tech Iowa State. That stretch was I think a lot

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tougher than anything deal you has on this schedule this season.

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So I feel really good other than as you mentioned,

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you have nine straight games in conference that's gonna be

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really tough.

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Speaker 1: And you get your bye really early.

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Speaker 7: Outside of that, though, like there's not any world beaters

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on this team, and if you're gonna see Texas Tech,

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it's not going to be until that conference championship, so

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you won't have the issue this last year, which was

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you clearly.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't beat one team and then when you play them again.

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Speaker 7: They beat the breaks off you, You're likely not gonna

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have that issue again because I think we all agree

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Texas Tech is running it back. I think the OU

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is running it back. I think that helps their playoff

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chances greatly.

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Speaker 8: I like the November finish, the way you should be

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able to win four straight. Yeah, very interested to see

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what Utah is this year. Write all Utah is always good.

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I don't know if that's true. You don't undergo the

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changes Utah has with personnel and coaching and just write

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it all it's it's Utah. They're gonna be tough. I

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don't know it's gonna be really really, I'm not saying

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they're not going to be tough, right, I'm just saying

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I have no idea what Utah is anymore. It's going

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to be That's gonna be a very very interesting game.

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We'll know a lot about Utah leaking after the game, obviously,

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But anyway, I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love the schedule.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate the nine games straight. I think it's

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gonna be intriguing to be a study. Here is the

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health of this Cougar football team that we've experienced over

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the last two years. No Key starters really going down

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that impacted the win lost column?

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Speaker 3: Is that the exception of the rule, right, Right? I

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am definitely afraid.

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Speaker 4: Of nine games nine game power for consecutive games. Now, granted,

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the haters are gonna say the Big Twelve is not

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a power conference. You know, these teams were added, These

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were the the added teams to the conference, right, not

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true power for even TCU.

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Speaker 3: They got adopted.

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Speaker 4: Later on in their lives, in their football programs, life,

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you know what I mean, Like they're gonna say things

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like that, But still I'm I'm very much intrigued to

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see if the health the continuity of this of this

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Cougar football team, you know, towards the end of the year,

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in that in that in that lead up to a

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conference championship game November late October?

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Speaker 3: Is that the exception of the rule? Right? Because L J.

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Martin is still RB one, Bear Bachmeyer is QB one.

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Speaker 7: But you're still concerned about what QB two, RB two,

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RB three, You're you're you really haven't had to tap

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into the depth.

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Speaker 4: Need I remind you? Okay, let me just give you

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a just a tangible example. Tyson Williams, when healthy to

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me was one of the best running backs in the

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modern era.

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Speaker 1: He was very, very very good.

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Speaker 4: Tyson Williams was the third string running back at South

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Carolina that VA you got at that time. Right, So

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we don't have Tyson Williams as RB two right now

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RB three and and l J. Martin is a different

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type of running back to that of Tyson Williams, right,

473
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but he's definitely an RB one.

474
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Speaker 3: What do we have behind him?

475
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Speaker 4: It would be nice to have that third string running

476
00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:30,119
back in the SEC. I still feel in my loins, okay,

477
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,839
in my plums, like we gotta go out and find

478
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,400
a running RB two, Like.

479
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Speaker 3: I feel it, there's some good ones left in the portal.

480
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There's plenty of great players now.

481
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Speaker 4: I think the issue that a Rod is going to

482
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have and TJ and Kevin, if you bring in a guy,

483
00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:48,440
do you feel like they fit into the scheme? Remember

484
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,440
Aiden Robbins good pick up? When did he finally find

485
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,480
his groove? It's like Emperor's new groove right that Oklahoma game,

486
00:22:57,559 --> 00:23:02,079
that Oklahoma game finally five, he was lining up, lining

487
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,759
up off sides. He wasn't catching the football, He's running

488
00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:07,319
the wrong hole. Now is that a coaching issue or

489
00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:09,680
is that a player issue. It's gonna be chicken or

490
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,240
the egg, and you're just gonna go back and forth,

491
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,160
back and forth. Why didn't Kielan Marion play a whole

492
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,839
lot his first season at BUYU offense? Not lining up

493
00:23:17,839 --> 00:23:19,799
in the right spot? You know who's gonna hold your

494
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hand at you in the right position? Do you need

495
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to simplify? Coaches and players have to have this dynamic

496
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of like, you know, okay, how much hot handholding are

497
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,519
we gonna do? Keeenland obviously found his role at Miami

498
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,799
was productive. Do you need to simplify? Some people are

499
00:23:33,799 --> 00:23:36,640
gonna criticize the coach for not simplifying, and others are

500
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gonna criticize the player for not being able to get

501
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up to speed. So those elements do contribute, I think

502
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to either going out and getting a guy or not

503
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,200
getting a guy right. Even Adan Robinson Wright, we thought

504
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we're great, fin smart, hardworking over a thousand yard rusher

505
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at UNLV, A former P four guy from Louisville, was

506
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recruited by BAU the first go coming out of high

507
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school and like obviously a perfect fit. Even he struggled

508
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to adapt and integrate and assimilate.

509
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Speaker 1: The big thing.

510
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Speaker 8: And I don't know if it's always been a thing.

511
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Maybe it has been. Is pass pro. The running backs

512
00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:16,599
got to be on it. With pass pro. It's it's

513
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,720
almost as important as actually running the football, maybe as important.

514
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Speaker 1: That's a big, big thing.

515
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Speaker 8: And and if you watch closely, if you see a

516
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running back miss on a blitz or anything, they're likely done.

517
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Speaker 1: Coaches have little patience.

518
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 3: Yeah first, the second is poor pass pro.

519
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Speaker 8: Poor pass pro. And it's something a lot of fans

520
00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:41,200
don't really hone in on. But it's a big, big

521
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thing in this day and agent. It's a very big

522
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,519
thing in a routs offense. He requires it. A lot

523
00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:48,759
of people. The tight ends, they wondered, why what's his name?

524
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,640
A few years back? Up played every dawn. It's because

525
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,160
he was a phenomenal blocker. Who am I talking about?

526
00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:58,559
Speaker 3: Isaac Rex? No running or sorry? Tight end?

527
00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:01,839
Speaker 4: Tight end tight end y two years ago? Two years ago,

528
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:08,079
Isaac Rex anyway? Oh Matamata, Yeah exactly. He knew the

529
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offense and he was a good blocker.

530
00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a fantastic block yep. So that's gonna

531
00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:12,640
be a big, big thing.

532
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,319
Speaker 3: Jake retch Left targeted him on a fade and under

533
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:15,680
threw him.

534
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:17,839
Speaker 1: Yes he did. Why did you have to bring that up?

535
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Speaker 7: I'm just saying, just like, you know, obviously there was

536
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trust between. It's not good goal line fade.

537
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Speaker 4: No one likes the goal line fade, especially when it's

538
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thrown to Matamatase. No one blames Matamatas. They say, hey, Jake,

539
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,240
ret slap shouldn't targeted. It's always the call was a

540
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,960
Rod's fault, not and it was Jake's fault.

541
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 8: It seems like you did a total of eleven shows

542
00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:38,319
talking about this.

543
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,279
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I did I think I had, Like, yeah,

544
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we had to bring on all the quarterbacks.

545
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Speaker 1: You have to educate people.

546
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Speaker 3: Well, I just said, you know, I mean all the quarterbacks,

547
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you know, you know it's it was that one.

548
00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 7: And like, why on third and short do we go

549
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,759
into shotgun?

550
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: Ben? Why are we in pistol or shot I'm like,

551
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,400
all right.

552
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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm gonna be on that train. You know why?

553
00:25:59,400 --> 00:25:59,559
Speaker 11: Yeah?

554
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 8: Because to me, Bear Bachmeyer is the prototypical quarterback, sneak guy.

555
00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:09,160
You could ever imagine that lower body, get him under center,

556
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,200
boom go Buffalo bills, go, tush push whatever. That is

557
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,200
a guaranteed first down. Are you kidding every timeush push.

558
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,319
So I'm gonna I'm gonna be that guy this year. Yeah,

559
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,160
I don't want to see the shotgun on third shot.

560
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 3: No more shotgun.

561
00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:26,799
Speaker 1: I want to see advanced. But are you kidding me?

562
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,640
Give me a better quarterback? Sneak quarterback? The Bear bach Meyer.

563
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: It doesn't exist, doesn't exist, doesn't exist?

564
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: Possible? Maybe you should run that off first down.

565
00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:39,559
Speaker 4: Oh, just let's do four straight quarterback snakes with bear back.

566
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,039
There you go, I mean the Eagles have gotten close. Yeah,

567
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,799
who's squats.

568
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,039
Speaker 3: More Bear Blackmeier? Jalen Hurts. That's what I want to know.

569
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,799
It's a good question. I bet you they both squat over.

570
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: That's probably Jingalin Hurts right now. But I think bears.

571
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: I bet you.

572
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 7: It's gonna make sure that people think, yeah, yeah, the

573
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,799
bear tar he can he can squat some weight, there's

574
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no doubt.

575
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 4: Well, let's concl this twenty twenty six football schedule. It

576
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,640
looks like it's gonna bode well for Brigham like you

577
00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:12,440
could potentially, you know, with your strength of schedule, okay,

578
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,279
and how it lines up, you could go un defeat it.

579
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,400
What up sent with the retention that you have with

580
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,640
the acquisitions that you have if if the if the

581
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,880
roster is just as good as what it was last year,

582
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,559
which I think is how we have most of us

583
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,160
feel right.

584
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:29,839
Speaker 3: You do lose some key contributors.

585
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,799
Speaker 4: Jack Kelly's a really good football player, Chase Roberts a

586
00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:35,559
really good FOOTBA player, as Aa Jada and Wayln Lapuach

587
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:37,599
who I mean, there's a lot of good football players

588
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:42,960
that are leaving Brigham Young University. But but this roster

589
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:45,119
could very well be as good as it was last year.

590
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,160
I do think people forget that you did have some

591
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:54,839
one score wins, field goal wins, ot wins, and and

592
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,119
even the year prior. Remember, the ball has been bouncing

593
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:04,160
Brigham's way over the last two seasons, creating turnovers on

594
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,240
defense and special teams, creating scores on turnovers and special teams.

595
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:12,319
You want to give credit to the team, the coaching staff,

596
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,039
but once again my question is, Okay, it's the health

597
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,319
and these the the the oblong shake ball, the pig skin.

598
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,680
It bounces in certain ways, sometimes in favor of bau

599
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,359
and and doesn't other times. In twenty twenty three, it

600
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,839
did not bounce By's way. Every fumble that was coughed

601
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,400
up was recovered by the opponent.

602
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,519
Speaker 3: You know, we're.

603
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,279
Speaker 4: Dropping I in T's, dropping touchdown passes, missing field goals

604
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,279
a critical times, and those one score games just didn't

605
00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:43,440
go be Way's way. The last two seasons, it's been

606
00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:48,559
the opposite. Is it the exception or the rule? Is

607
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:52,200
that nine game that nine game back end schedule after

608
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,759
the bye week? Are we gonna be healthy? Are we

609
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:56,319
gonna be stronger? We're gonna have to delve into the

610
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:59,039
depth of Brigham. That to me is the study here,

611
00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:02,240
because that you know, on that you know, on that

612
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:05,920
pace you do, you see some good football teams. Notre

613
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:09,240
Dame is going to be a good football team. They're

614
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:09,799
gonna be good.

615
00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:10,079
Speaker 1: Guys.

616
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: Don't get it to his game. Luckily it's at home.

617
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,559
But that's a good freaking football team.

618
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: Okay.

619
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: UCF is going to be improved. Scott Frost is gonna

620
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,279
figure it out eventually. Dude, I'm telling you that's at UCF.

621
00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:26,799
We love the mouse. We're gonna be distracted. It's warmer weather,

622
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,599
you know, it's beautiful. We're going out to Orlando, you know,

623
00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:35,559
just having a gay old time. Okay, not so fast,

624
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,160
could be a trap game, Scott Frost felt like he

625
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,119
competed against Brigham pretty well in provo.

626
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,039
Speaker 3: You know, he was like, hey, we just.

627
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,279
Speaker 4: Got out paced late in the game, but he felt

628
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:51,519
pretty gods dang good about though didn't play well. Arizona State, Utah,

629
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:54,839
that's gonna be Utah. That b YU games they're Super

630
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,599
Bowl at rice Ecles that's their super Bowl.

631
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,359
Speaker 3: Utah may be fighting for Bowl eligibility.

632
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 4: And b why you could be that Hinge game to

633
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:10,079
getting to Bowl eligibility Okay.

634
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,599
Speaker 3: Baylor, mm hmm, I don't know.

635
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:19,119
Speaker 7: No one knows about Kansas, Cincinnati lost their their quarterback.

636
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,079
Speaker 3: B Why these games.

637
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 4: Are gonna all be winnable? Okay, but it will be

638
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,960
why you be healthy enough?

639
00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: Who's QB two? Who's RB two? To be determined?

640
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Speaker 7: Is there anyone on this schedule who put as much

641
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,920
fear into you preseason last year of Iowa State and

642
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,799
Texas Tech that's on the schedule this year?

643
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: Not named Notre Dame because I don't think so.

644
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,799
Speaker 4: I mean MATC like Matt Campbell leaving if he's there,

645
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,599
Like I I fear that Iowa State game. I totally

646
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,720
do uh T. She was intriguing to me because even

647
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,480
without Hoover. That's a really good football team with really

648
00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:58,680
good talent, even though be what you dominated at home,

649
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,319
you're you're away like I've I've been to Forre Worth.

650
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: That's a good stadium, that's a that's anyway.

651
00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:08,759
Speaker 4: You fear rivalry games, which is Arizona State Utah. You

652
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:10,960
fear the trap game with the UCF, and you fear

653
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,759
that the Fighting Irish because they are looking to lee.

654
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: I think that the mantra.

655
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,079
Speaker 7: That that uh that that that they're they're encompassing right

656
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:23,839
now and embracing is like leave no doubt. Yeah, so

657
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,279
like they're they're they're looking to like margin, a victory, dominance,

658
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:28,680
sense of urgency.

659
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: They lost some key.

660
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:31,799
Speaker 4: Players, no doubt, to the NFL, but they have a

661
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:34,160
lot of retention yeah at Notre Dame, and.

662
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: Their recruiting classes good this year as well.

663
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: They're good. Dude, The Fighting Irish are gonna be good.

664
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,279
Speaker 7: But like that's the only team on this on this

665
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:41,920
schedule that you look at and you go, oh, yeah,

666
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,279
playoff team. Other than that, I don't look at anybody

667
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,480
else here and I go playoff team unless somebody surprises you.

668
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,839
Speaker 1: And honestly, the only one who would surprise me.

669
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,039
Speaker 7: Who I think could be a playoff team is Arizona,

670
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because I think again, I think they're your sleeper team

671
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:57,519
in the Big twelve. But looking at the schedule like there,

672
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,000
I don't think there's any world beaters, not that every

673
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,160
game is gonna be a cake walk, and in terms

674
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of just front facing world beaters, the only one I

675
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see is Notre Dame.

676
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Real quick, guys, we were discussing Utah Utah football. Their

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schedule we've already discoesed by us. They start off with Idaho,

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the Idahoans at home. They take on the Arkansas Razorbacks

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at home. Week two. They do have a bye week

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on September twelfth. SAT's early, Yeah, it's early. I think, Well,

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September third, it's well, actually it's not necessary bye week.

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It's it's a Thursday game the week prior, so they

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get an additional couple of days of prep leading up

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to that Arkansas game. And then they take on Utah

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State at rich As rich Echo Stadium, three consecutive home games.

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Then they head out to Iowa State. They got a

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bye week October third, they welcome Kansas. After that they

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head out to Colorado. I'm wondering how good Colorado is

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going to be this year. October seventeenth, they have Houston

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at home, they have Cincinnati away, they have BYU at home,

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they have U of A on the road, TCU on

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the road, and then West Virginia at home. I think

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West Virginia is gonna be a better team. I think

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rich Rod is a great coach. I have like I

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think Sonny Dyke's in Rich rod like, and I think

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Brent Brennan that I know, three four games slate for them.

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I think that's gonna kick the crap out of the utes.

734
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That one's gonna be tough. All four well coached, good

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cultured teams. And uh, there's a rebuild, yes at West Virginia,

736
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but don't get a twist Rich Rods like, give me

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four years and we're gonna be back to where we were.

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Speaker 1: Those are two games before are tough. Houston's gonna be good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my gosh, yeah, Houston.

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Speaker 1: And then at Cincinnati that's not that's no picnic right there.

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Speaker 3: That's Houston's gonna be really good. Dude.

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Speaker 4: Willie Fritz maybe one of the most underrated head coaches

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in college football. And because he's the old he's got

744
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that old man feel to him, you know, and not

745
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get a whole lot of lot. He kind of like

746
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climbing when he went to Kansas State and Matt Campbell

747
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when he went to Iowa State.

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Speaker 3: He kind of has that vibe to him. He's a

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good coach.

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Speaker 8: If you're in Utah, you have to get those first

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three conference games Iowa State, Kansas Buffalo you gotta go three.

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You know that has to happen if you're Utah. I'm

753
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telling you what game is gonna be tough for Utah.

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And this is my sneaky upset. I don't know what

755
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you test could beat Utah.

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Speaker 1: Wow. I believe that interest.

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Speaker 8: I believe that you just gonna be breaking in a

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new system offensively, totally revamped offensive line. Brocklemntan all is

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good coach. Yeah, you justa it was a good team

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last year. I'm telling you that that that that could

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be something.

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Speaker 4: We're going back to. Jimmy Hendricks just jamming out to

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Jimmy Hendricks in the middle of segment.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 3: Ah boom baby is I.

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Speaker 5: Just the vibes right now of Utah, just like being

767
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had the demise. You know, it just it brings, it brings.

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It's good in my loins right now.

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Speaker 3: Ben Okay, all right, all right, love it?

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Speaker 10: Love it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you you touched. It was a good football team

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last year.

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Speaker 1: They were they're okay, Yeah, they're ball.

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Speaker 7: Eligible six and seven with a Bowl Bowl loss, right,

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too shabby.

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Speaker 1: You have some competitive games, McKay. Hillstead is gonna be

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slinging it. McKay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's Uh, he's doing the the remix up there

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in Aggie Country. The utter Tuggers of the North are

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gonna be better this year.

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Speaker 1: I hope he does well. I like McKay.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, totally rooting on Michay hill Stead.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a Utah State fan.

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Speaker 3: And to your point, look, Utah State lost by one

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to Boise State.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that was at home. They lost in double overtime

787
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to UNLV twenty nine twenty six.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Their either losses were to New Mexico thirty three fourteen.

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They lost to Hawaii at Hawaii forty four to twenty six.

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HAWHYI was a good team this last year.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: They lost to Vanderbilt fifty five to thirty five on

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the road, and then they lost to Texas AM forty four.

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Speaker 3: To twenty two. This is gonna be a this may

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UTUS State maybe an eight win team.

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Speaker 1: This next season. They're gonna be good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm right there with you.

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Speaker 1: You're you fan, watch out for UTU State.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you a lot of a lot of fans

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are feeling like this Utah team is bordering on Bowl

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eligible ability.

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Speaker 3: Five six wins.

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Speaker 8: I think it would see a tremendous work done by

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Morgan Scalley. If if U does Bowl.

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Speaker 7: Eligible next year, I mean even that that non con

807
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is not outside of Idaho like Arkansas, that could be

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a loss.

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Speaker 1: Utah State, you think could be a loss. Like there's

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not really any easy games on the schedule for Utah.

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I think I think Iowa State's a complete mess. Maybe

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I'm wrong on that.

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Speaker 3: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: No, you're right.

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Speaker 4: They lost a lot to Penn Say, all their best

816
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players went to Penn State with Matt Campbell.

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Speaker 3: They're in a rebuild. You don't necessarily expect them to.

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Speaker 1: But I don't understand how ut does not in a rebuild.

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You look at the players that are missing.

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Speaker 3: Technically they are. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So I anyway, we talked about Utah because I think

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fans care about Utah that they really want to know

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how b Way matches up stecks up against Utah. And

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I think it's going to be a fascinating year for

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the University.

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Speaker 4: Of what's the What give me a pitch optimistically on

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why Utah doesn't have a rebuild year?

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Speaker 1: What what is it?

829
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Speaker 4: What if the internally talking about up on the hill

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right now in Salt Lake City about how like they've

831
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lost their entire offensive line. They did retain their quarterback, right,

832
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but they lost their OC, lost their they.

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Speaker 1: Lost their tight end. They lost their two bookends.

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Speaker 3: Who were really, really good, John Henry and Logan.

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Speaker 8: Do you see what happened in that defense? Once John

836
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:27,920
Henry daily tour his achilles, they couldn't stop anything. Nothing porous. Yeah,

837
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tal Johnson's gone. He's pretty good. Yeah, smith Snowden's gone, gone,

838
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:38,760
cal Calhoun gone, Lander, Barton gone. I think they have

839
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a really good linebacker returning. I know that I'm forgetting

840
00:39:42,039 --> 00:39:45,000
the guy's name, but man if Morgan Scaley can make

841
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,280
that team Bowl eligible and you fans aren't gonna want

842
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,760
to accept it, but that will be tremendous work done

843
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,320
by him, tremendous work.

844
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Speaker 1: And I think he's a good coach.

845
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Speaker 8: I think he has the ability to maximize the most

846
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out of that personnel.

847
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Speaker 1: But that personnel is not very impressive as of right now.

848
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:04,559
It's just not So it's gonna be interesting.

849
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 4: The Holy Words on November seventh this year, it's at

850
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,519
rice Eco Stadium. That's gonna be Utah Super Bowl. I

851
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:12,079
think that's gonna be a hymns game for them to

852
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:16,199
get Bowl eligible. A huge absolutely agree with Mark Carlin.

853
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,920
Will do everything possible to win that game, even if

854
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,400
it means running onto the field.

855
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: You could get Could you imagine if he did that again?

856
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,599
I hope he does.

857
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:32,679
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is like, remember UTEP in nineteen eighty three,

858
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,079
g Man, Oh yeah, the story of UTEP.

859
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Speaker 1: Yeah, why was it was nineteen eighty five?

860
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,559
Speaker 3: Was I you sure it was eighty five?

861
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Speaker 1: Was eighty five? I am positive that it was nineteen

862
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:43,079
eighty five?

863
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Speaker 7: He checked, no doubt in my mind, it is a

864
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nineteen eighty five, nineteen eighty five, sure, yeah it was.

865
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Speaker 3: It was nineteen eighty.

866
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Speaker 1: Five, Come on, stop it.

867
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Speaker 4: BA football's worst upset nineteen eighty five lost to UTEP.

868
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Speaker 3: What was the controversy in that game?

869
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Speaker 1: Headsets? Heads set, head sets.

870
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:07,519
Speaker 4: Headsets, communication disruption, intel, crossing the wires, crossing the streams.

871
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,039
UTEP had the play call every single play they were

872
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:15,559
listening in on the headsets. I'm not a conspiracy theorist,

873
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,159
actually I have since twenty twenty, but I would make

874
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,880
sure I would make sure that those headsets are not

875
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:32,639
being hacked, right, hacked by Harlan. I mean, I'm telling you, bro,

876
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,199
because if you lose that game and you're not bull eligible,

877
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,840
Harlan's gone, man, and a lot of angry tweets could

878
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,480
be happening.

879
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 8: Harlan's got to make a good move like he is

880
00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:49,400
due for. We got Alex Jansen, which I think was

881
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,280
a really good move. But football wise, that dude needs

882
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:53,559
a win.

883
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: He needs to figure out how to win win.

884
00:41:56,679 --> 00:42:00,199
Speaker 4: Ever since his contract extension, things have gone down hill

885
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,920
for him. Someone needs to take aways his Twitter, right,

886
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:03,679
that's number one.

887
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: Just stay off happened. Yeah, yeah, he's got to think so.

888
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,880
I just gotta stop stay off social media.

889
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Speaker 1: I hope, I hope he doesn't. It's so entertaining. I

890
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,320
want him to tweet. I want him to tweet often. Yeah,

891
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:19,719
I was.

892
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Speaker 4: I was at a an orthopedic office earlier today with

893
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:29,159
some B y U fans that worked there, and they said, extend.

894
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,559
Speaker 3: Harlan for as long as it takes.

895
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 4: Extend Harlan, give him another decade, you know, the golden

896
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,480
era of Harlan up.

897
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Speaker 1: On the hill.

898
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:44,119
Speaker 3: Sign him to a lifetime deal. Oh man, that's what

899
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:45,559
they want, that's what they need.

900
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still can't believe how what's your favorite moment,

901
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:51,440
did I ask you is your favorite?

902
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

903
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Speaker 8: You came in and as a reporter him taking to

904
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,559
the podium like he did. Yeah, from a reporter's perspective that.

905
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:03,039
Speaker 1: That was so bizarre there that there's like, oh, I

906
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,519
I was on the field and and someone like told

907
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:09,159
us I was with you, we're t bringy poping. I remember,

908
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,119
did youder what Mark Carlin just did? And I'm like,

909
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,159
what did what? They stole it from us?

910
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 8: Then I was just so angry that we didn't divide.

911
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,599
You should have gotten the b what you suppressed, and

912
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:23,480
I should have got in Utahs. But whatever, I wasn't

913
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,519
really thinking like a reporter.

914
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: It's been. It's okay. You know why I've been. We

915
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:29,000
made up for it this last year. We got it right.

916
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Speaker 5: You went to the You went to the b Yu one.

917
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,480
I went to the Utah one.

918
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Speaker 3: That's right.

919
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,079
Speaker 1: If you asked him the nail in the coffin and

920
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:36,920
asked the.

921
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 6: Nail in the coffin, it went viral. Everybody knows me

922
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:41,119
at Utah, whether they love or hate me.

923
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 5: They know my face. They know my face in that room,

924
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,679
in a room brother, what we did.

925
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 4: Yes, I will tell everybody like it's okay because Kyle's gone,

926
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and uh, I was like, doesn't matter. Look, everyone knows

927
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:57,639
who I am at the at the you like, no one. Look,

928
00:43:57,679 --> 00:43:59,079
everyone knows I'm a former player.

929
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Speaker 1: You know.

930
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,199
Speaker 4: I do a radio show on ESPN The Fan. It's

931
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:07,320
all BAU sports related and you know, very pro BYU. Obviously,

932
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:09,960
so when you listen to our show, you know that

933
00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:14,119
there's going to be some bias there. Obviously. I couldn't

934
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:16,559
go into that press conference and ask like any hard

935
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:17,760
hitting questions.

936
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Speaker 3: That you know, there's just no way.

937
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:21,559
Speaker 4: And like, I want to be respectful too, of like Kyle, like,

938
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,840
you know, it's not my job to be. I'm not

939
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,920
the hard hitting journalist, right, Jim, I'm not the Capital

940
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:26,480
J Journals.

941
00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 3: This is not what I'm here for.

942
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,599
Speaker 4: I'm here for some I'm here for kicks and giggles. Okay,

943
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:33,800
I'm here for some fun. Anyway, Ronald's the Capitol J

944
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,360
journalist out of our duo. And so I like, Roddy,

945
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,639
you go down there and let's let's ask some key questions,

946
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:42,840
you know, So I want it to be respectful.

947
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm getting into the copy. I'm typing up.

948
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,519
Speaker 5: The copy all the things that I'm saying asking.

949
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, I created the copy. I said, look, this is

950
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,320
this is respectful. This is a good question. It needs

951
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,039
to be asked.

952
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 4: And so Ronnie went down there and asked that key question.

953
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,960
What was that question, Ronald the three man weaver? That

954
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:07,159
question was can you remember it?

955
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 3: Do you still have it? Do you still have it still?

956
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: I want you to just to tell the people.

957
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 6: When Ben gave it, I was memorizing because I wasn't

958
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,159
gonna have my phone, it was gonna be recording and

959
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,320
Ben's and Ben told me, you can't mess this up.

960
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,920
Like you get one shot to ask this question, and

961
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:23,760
like everyone's gonna be looking at you. But the question

962
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,360
along the lines was a coach, you dropped three straight

963
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,840
to Utah. You know what does that any motivation to.

964
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,559
Speaker 5: Come back and coach in this rivalry next year?

965
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 7: Pretty because you know it's three three straight losses, you know,

966
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,960
and like we always we were talking about if he

967
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:41,119
doesn't win this game, there's no way he was retireable, obviously,

968
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:42,400
you know it was it.

969
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,079
Speaker 3: Was well, yeah, I mean, look, his choice it was

970
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:46,920
other question. He did not want.

971
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,599
Speaker 4: I don't think he wanted to retire anyway. Like I

972
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:51,079
don't think he wanted to tie, so like we were

973
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:53,760
perception that he really wanted to step away.

974
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: Anyways, this guy's got gass and take.

975
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 4: So like I said this, he's the all time greatest

976
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,079
head coach in the University of Utah football. Miss he's

977
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:05,280
Utah football and he wanted to continue to coach. And

978
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,440
he still had gassing the tank to lead this team,

979
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:11,079
and Mark Harlan and his crew ushered him out, you

980
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:14,079
know what I mean. So anyways, we thought we had,

981
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,519
you know, suspected that he was after a win versability

982
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:18,559
that he would ride off.

983
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,159
Speaker 3: Into the sunset.

984
00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 4: He would say, you know what, I'm out, I'm great,

985
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,559
I'm good. Now we know he's still like gas and tape.

986
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:26,000
But anyways, yeah, that was the question. I said, Hey,

987
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:28,320
let's do it respectfully, like, hey, three straight loss of

988
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,000
the Bilio, does that influence you it anyway to return

989
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:34,440
to Utah next year? And he said, no, we won

990
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:37,800
nine in a row before that. We are still very

991
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,599
much on the plus side of that ledger.

992
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 3: Both teams were in power conferences, which apparently yeah, and and.

993
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,039
Speaker 4: To that statement, right, we we put together our status

994
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:51,880
when they're in the same conference BYU has a winning.

995
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: Record versus Utah.

996
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,159
Speaker 4: So when Kyle Dam's coaching a rivalry game and BYU

997
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,440
and Utah are in the same conference, the stats are

998
00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:05,880
not in in your favor unfortunately anyway, So yeah, I

999
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,400
think it's uh they've won three Kyle Whittingham's three and

1000
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,880
five against the Cougars when both Bloy and Utah are

1001
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,039
part of the same conference Mountain West Conference, a big twelve.

1002
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,000
So anyway, our question of the day here revolves around

1003
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:22,599
like Utah is they are they going to have a

1004
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,599
rebuild or is this a retool? And most right now

1005
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,039
that are I would say either pro BYU or I

1006
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:37,280
would say the the the objective bystanders, they're all leaning

1007
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,000
towards a rebuild. The guys that have no skin in

1008
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:41,880
the game that I've chatted with, like this is going

1009
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,079
to be a rebuild. They've lost too much. And the

1010
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:48,079
only optimism brewing in Sally Cities like we well, we

1011
00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:52,199
retained you know, Dan Peter, we retained our quarterback, and

1012
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,039
we and we got our head coach and Wedding and

1013
00:47:54,119 --> 00:47:58,119
the culture guy, and and you know we're gonna be

1014
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:01,320
able to now begin to recruit better in the state

1015
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,800
of Utah and win the state again.

1016
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:04,079
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the case.

1017
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,079
Speaker 8: Do you know the guy who might be the single

1018
00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:10,400
biggest loss that no one's talking about from Utah is Harding.

1019
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,559
Speaker 1: He is a fantastic football coach.

1020
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 8: Those lines that he put out for Utah year in

1021
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:21,519
and year out, that's going to be really, really tough

1022
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:22,039
to replace.

1023
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: I don't I don't. I can't think who their offensive

1024
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,000
line coach is.

1025
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,519
Speaker 8: But man, if you cannot get that group together, and

1026
00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:32,079
they're going to have to have a completely different group

1027
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:33,599
with a different.

1028
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,559
Speaker 1: System, new coach. Man, if that can't get together, it's

1029
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:39,960
gonna get bad. It's gonna get bad really fast.

1030
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 8: Because if that offensive line is not a cohesive, productive unit,

1031
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:44,039
it all falls apart.

1032
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 7: That's going to be So what has Utah football been

1033
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,119
over Their.

1034
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: Offensive line has been tremendous.

1035
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:54,639
Speaker 4: As soon as you made the jump to the Pac

1036
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,719
twelve line, it was all offensive and defensive line play,

1037
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,039
and every once in a while you'd get it maybe

1038
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:03,159
a good quarterback and you know, a great running back

1039
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:05,559
in Zach Moss and you could take it to the

1040
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:10,679
next level. But the baseline foundation was all football in

1041
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,320
the trenches. That's that was the culture. Doug Elisai like

1042
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:18,679
the strength and conditioning. It was all offensive and defensive lineup.

1043
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,920
That's what he did best. That's why they won football games.

1044
00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:24,679
When bay You was losing nine in a row, you

1045
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,880
talk to any one of those Bayu coaches and they're

1046
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,079
all like, we're just losing the trench battle. That's what

1047
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:33,119
we're losing. I remember the twenty fifteen BA football game.

1048
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,960
You go down big early because you pick six to

1049
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:37,880
start the game. And how many pick six is? Do

1050
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,280
we need to freaking throw in the Utah Bayu Holy

1051
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,719
War game before? We just don't throw the ball in

1052
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,000
the first damn play anyway?

1053
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 3: Do you remember that two thousand fifteen? Do you remember

1054
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:48,440
like at right.

1055
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,159
Speaker 4: Game it as you make a very heroic comeback in

1056
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,559
Vegas and all you have to do is stop Utah

1057
00:49:57,679 --> 00:49:58,440
from running ball.

1058
00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:00,199
Speaker 3: You know they're going to run the football there, not

1059
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,280
going to play action pass.

1060
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 4: They don't have anyone at quarterback or a wider see

1061
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,480
that they trust to do that, and I don't know

1062
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:09,159
who they had a tight end at the time. They're

1063
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,679
going to run the damn ball and Byu could not

1064
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,519
stop them. Travis Tooeylan ends up getting a Liz Frog

1065
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:18,159
injury because he's wearing vapor cleats at three hundred pounds.

1066
00:50:18,519 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 3: I'm pissed off. I'm angry in the stands.

1067
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 4: You know, it's like run that ball, you know, to

1068
00:50:24,599 --> 00:50:28,480
stack the box, let's go Kama Kazi's and you couldn't

1069
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,239
stop them, and you lost. You didn't get another chance,

1070
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,960
another opportunity to win that game, and and and so

1071
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,039
it's trench warfare. So that's where you wonder, it's like,

1072
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:42,199
how much of a drop off with Lewis Powell and Hardy? Yeah,

1073
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:46,800
like your defensive and offensive life. Why is it that

1074
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,639
Kyle winning him went out and got those guys.

1075
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:52,079
Speaker 1: That's who's I heard.

1076
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:54,519
Speaker 8: Lewis Powell was really tough to get to Michigan too,

1077
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:55,519
from what I understand.

1078
00:50:55,679 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, he's TiSER here in Yeah, I mean they're

1079
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,440
here in the state of Utah. This is where his

1080
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:04,519
family and he's got he's neighbors with with Shoney Pooh.

1081
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, Well in Utah County,

1082
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:11,760
I know that. So, yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be.

1083
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 8: I mean, even as recently as twenty twenty three, twenty

1084
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,880
twenty four, b way, he's offensive.

1085
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: Line could not handle Utah's front.

1086
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, they couldn't do it.

1087
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:21,679
Speaker 1: Now the B way you can.

1088
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,079
Speaker 8: And you give me a defensive linement on Utah that's

1089
00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:28,039
returning next year, just anybody.

1090
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:33,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't give me a name. It's oh wow,

1091
00:51:33,519 --> 00:51:36,679
it's tenuous. It's it's gonna be interesting, you.

1092
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 3: Know, it's interesting.

1093
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:39,639
Speaker 4: So let me add to the fire here, Ronald the

1094
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:42,159
three man, I'm gonna DM you this. Okay, this was

1095
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:45,559
a really cash me a key cut from Kyle Whittingham.

1096
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:49,320
Now this kind of piggybacks off of what the identity

1097
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,440
has been for Utah under Kyle Whittingham. Okay, And remember

1098
00:51:54,519 --> 00:51:58,599
when when Utah Utah went to the Pac twelve, they

1099
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:00,800
found a way to win in the trenches versus weaker

1100
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,960
trench teams.

1101
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 3: Now, they didn't have the skill guys.

1102
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 4: And all that stuff that USC Washington, Oregon had had,

1103
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:12,280
and they would lose to those teams on occasion.

1104
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,679
Speaker 1: Right, And.

1105
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,559
Speaker 3: But like when they moved to the Big twelve, what happened?

1106
00:52:18,639 --> 00:52:19,199
What happened?

1107
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 4: Were they still winning at that rate? Were they still

1108
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,639
winning the trench warfare? How many injuries did they have?

1109
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1110
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: They lost the trench warfare battles. So this was back

1111
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,199
in November thirteenth, twenty twenty four. How much does the

1112
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,679
perceived lack of physicality at Utah? Remember twenty twenty four

1113
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:40,360
they were getting beat in the line of scrimmage the

1114
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,480
first year in the Big twelve.

1115
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 3: How much does the.

1116
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: Perceived lack of fysicality at Utah have to do with

1117
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,760
the new conference affiliation. Utah football has been riddled with

1118
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,320
injuries this season. This was Kyle Winningham prior to the

1119
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,079
BYU game, was asked about the Utah identity and where

1120
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:53,559
it's gone.

1121
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,039
Speaker 10: Okay, where has their identity gone?

1122
00:52:57,599 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: We've been known for our pascality.

1123
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,599
Speaker 5: And attention to detail for decades and it seems like

1124
00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:02,960
we've lost that in the last month.

1125
00:53:03,039 --> 00:53:05,079
Speaker 10: How have you addressed these issues during the bye week?

1126
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:07,039
Speaker 11: I would agree that we're not as physical this year

1127
00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:09,760
as we typically have been, and you really gauge that,

1128
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:12,880
at least we gauge it by how you run the

1129
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,639
ball and how you defend the run, and we haven't

1130
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:15,760
been as good at that this year.

1131
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 10: Just you know, tough to pinpoint one.

1132
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:27,039
Speaker 11: Exact reason for that, but yeah, we haven't haven't been

1133
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,400
our usual selves in that regard and that has been

1134
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,760
our identity as well, and so they go hand in hand.

1135
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,039
And you know, the ability to run the ball and

1136
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:38,639
play action pass off of that, that's been our formula

1137
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,760
for success for a lot of years. And that the

1138
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,559
ability on defense to turn teams one dimensional by taking

1139
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:47,440
away the run and forcing them to throw has not

1140
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:52,159
surfaced this year either. So that's certainly been a big

1141
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,440
part of our issue this year.

1142
00:53:56,599 --> 00:53:57,199
Speaker 1: Okay, so.

1143
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 3: This last year, they they brought it back, they got

1144
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,119
it back right a little bit better.

1145
00:54:04,039 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 4: But the Utah defensive line play and defensive stopping, the

1146
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,440
rushing ability that was that was not good.

1147
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,199
Speaker 3: I mean, they were getting tore up on the back

1148
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:17,880
end of the year.

1149
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 4: Offensively, they were able to STAPs because the had the

1150
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,960
best offensive line in the Big Twelve arguably and one

1151
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,639
of the best offensive lines in college football. But defensively

1152
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:30,559
they didn't take away the run. They didn't They were

1153
00:54:31,039 --> 00:54:37,039
not good at all. Opponent rushing yards, opponent rushing rushes

1154
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:39,400
pre game they were like ninety six and one hundred

1155
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,079
and fourteenth.

1156
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,079
Speaker 1: They looked like bau in twenty twenty three, let's be honest.

1157
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 4: Giving up a lot of yardage and so like I'm

1158
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,599
telling you, like, I think the Big twelve jump was impactful.

1159
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,400
I think the physicality is different than with the petrol

1160
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,719
and they had a little bit of an eye opening

1161
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:58,679
experience too.

1162
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:00,679
Speaker 3: I don't think they would.

1163
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 4: Have been I mean, even with Coywodeham, if they would

1164
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,239
have maintained retained Coywodeham, I still think they would have

1165
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,920
struggled this next season. So what how many wins do

1166
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,119
you think they get this next year?

1167
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 3: For four? Okay, g Man's saying four and nine for

1168
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,000
the Yutes. What do you what do you think?

1169
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Speaker 4: Way too early prediction looking at the schedule, knowing what

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the what's returning. Oh yeah, well oh yeah, sorry sorry

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I said yeah, four and eight. Sorry I was I

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was thinking of the twenty seventeen season, which, by you

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played Portland.

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Speaker 3: State and went four and nine. Anyways, continue, I think

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they're getting to six wins.

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be six and six and then whatever

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they do with the ball game, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But I think that'll be six and six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I kind of feel like they're gonna get ball older.

1181
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They're gonna find a way with some grit to get

1182
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ball old. Well that's kind of how I'm feeling so

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six and six Utah, that'll be a good season for

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you with an actual.

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Speaker 1: DAS season is not something I thought would be five,

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five and seven. And that b whaty you lost is

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what does it?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, could you image it?

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Speaker 4: A b AU lost at Rice Cycles is a determining

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factor from them going bullet.

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Speaker 6: One hundred percent because I think they'll beat Utah, They'll

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lose to Arkansas. I still think they get Utah State.

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I think they lose at Iowa State on the road,

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and then that BYU, Arizona, TCU West Virginia.

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Speaker 5: There's at least two or three losses in there.

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Speaker 6: Like I just I think that's tough to have to

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play BYU your bie week's hecka early bin and then

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you gotta go on the road Arizona tough place to play.

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Then you gotta go to TCU, and then you gotta

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host West Virginia at the crib.

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Speaker 5: Like how motivated are you going to be?

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Speaker 1: How motivated?

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Speaker 5: Like the guys that left were super motivated. Are these

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guys going to be motivated? Is he going to be

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able to have them that way?

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00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:37,079
Speaker 6: Look, I mean talent and expectation of plays a factor

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like this could be a very much a BYU season,

1208
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Like they might be five and two, then maybe you

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starting off and then they might remember what happened to

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be you five straight losses.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see them actually starting five and oh

1212
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that's what I'm saying, and they lose, yes, all of

1213
00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:52,719
their remaining games.

1214
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Speaker 5: Like I'm telling you right, I think they'll be five

1215
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and too and lose five straight.

1216
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: I think they could. They could be there. They could

1217
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be there. You don't think so?

1218
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Speaker 4: G Man, how what's their record going eating Arkansas? They're

1219
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not going to beat not beating Arkansas.

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Speaker 8: I said that they would lose Arkansas, said that they

1221
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would be ben saying they're gonna be five and h s.

1222
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Speaker 4: I mean you did you realize Arkansas was two and

1223
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ten last year, the worst they were in college football?

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Speaker 3: And you're you're you're giving them you're thinking kJ Jefferson Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: All right, I plead ignorance. All yeah, yeah.

1226
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Speaker 3: That way. Look at that SEC bias all right, look

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at that SEC bias.

1228
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: Seven. Six and six is kind of where I'm at.

1229
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I'm gonna boost to five and seven.

1230
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Speaker 8: Remember, sorry, I was not prepared to diagnose Utah's schedule.

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Speaker 1: Going into the show.

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