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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, all other carbon life forms. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Night Live with Gary Jeff Walker, an extra edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the night Cap, which, of course when there's no baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>we do this occasionally on Monday and Tuesday evenings from

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<v Speaker 1>nine to twelve. Tonight, we're early. It's great to be

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<v Speaker 1>with you. The Reds won today and walk Off Fashion

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<v Speaker 1>took the series six out of seven series they have won.

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<v Speaker 1>Now as we get closer and closer to the All

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<v Speaker 1>Star break, heard the sad news that famous horse trainer

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<v Speaker 1>four time Kentucky Derby winner d Wayne Lucas passed yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>as you may have heard in the news. So I

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<v Speaker 1>made some terrible joke which I will wait until there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more time has passed. But in this

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<v Speaker 1>show tonight, at the bottom of the hour, Cornell West

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<v Speaker 1>and Robert George. Cornell West is a very brilliant man.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a very far left guy. Robert George is a

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<v Speaker 1>right conservative and they've written a book together about everybody

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<v Speaker 1>getting along, which is you know, refreshing, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>And we will have them both on the air. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the plan anyway, And at eight o'clock or eight oh five,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Shara, who sadly tragically lost his daughter to what

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<v Speaker 1>he calls medical murder in Wisconsin. His daughter, Grace was

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen years old. She was diagnosed with COVID. But Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Serra says, and he's got all kinds of ament in facts,

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<v Speaker 1>there was just a trial against Ascension Health and Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth in Wisconsin. We'll talk about the outcome of that

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<v Speaker 1>and what has been discovered since about what he says

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<v Speaker 1>is Grace's murder, and it's allowed him to start a

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<v Speaker 1>foundation in her name, and it's an awareness foundation for

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<v Speaker 1>people to know their rights when they go under the

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<v Speaker 1>knife or they're in standard of care hospitals, which are

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<v Speaker 1>all around the nation. They're all around here in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get to any of that, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey dude, don't make it bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Take a SIDI, then make it beat.

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<v Speaker 1>In August of nineteen sixty six, the Beatles, the most

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<v Speaker 1>popular band in the world to some they still are,

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<v Speaker 1>made their last concert appearance in Cincinnati at Crosley Field.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of you might have gone. In nineteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>I was working for ninety two point five FM here

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<v Speaker 1>in town, the Fox, doing a show called Breakfast with

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<v Speaker 1>the Beatles, and the brilliant idea was had not by me,

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<v Speaker 1>by someone else, to do a thirtieth anniversary and getting

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<v Speaker 1>together people who had been at that concert for a reunion.

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<v Speaker 1>We did that, and a couple of years later we

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<v Speaker 1>moved the location from our studios to a place called

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<v Speaker 1>Hap's Irish Pub, which this year, as HAPs there on

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<v Speaker 1>Erie and Hyde Park, is celebrating its fiftieth anniversary. The

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<v Speaker 1>man who's been the architect of those wonderful, wonderful decades

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<v Speaker 1>is with us in studio for this half hour. He

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<v Speaker 1>joins us now as close to the mic as you can,

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Thomas, Welcome to a very special This is great.

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<v Speaker 1>Danny was a guest a couple of times at Breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>with Beatles and hosted our Breakfast with the Beatles reunions

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<v Speaker 1>at Apps on Sunday mornings for over ten years. But

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<v Speaker 1>now it's been fifty years of Halps Irish Pub. How

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<v Speaker 1>you doing, man, doing great? Doing great? Great to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? So there's always been a bar there as

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<v Speaker 1>far as as long as human beings have existed in

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<v Speaker 1>that area, there's always been a pub or a bar there, correct, correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Since after Prohibition.

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<v Speaker 1>I was told all right, So, but the last fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years you've been at the tiller.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>My father started this in nineteen seventy five. He had

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<v Speaker 4>taken some trips to Ireland and fell in love with

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<v Speaker 4>Irish pubs, and I guess the neighborhood bar came up

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<v Speaker 4>for sale and he decided he wanted to have an

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<v Speaker 4>Irish pub and he and another guy opened it as

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<v Speaker 4>an Irish pub in nineteen seventy five.

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<v Speaker 1>And when did you take over? When was the torch passed?

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<v Speaker 4>He has been dead I think about twenty eight years,

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<v Speaker 4>so just a little bit longer than that, because I

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<v Speaker 4>started helping out. I had another job, and I eventually

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<v Speaker 4>took over, probably close to like twenty seven years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you before that? Your other job.

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<v Speaker 4>At the time, I was working at New York Life.

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<v Speaker 4>I worked there for about nineteen years.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, I'm selling life insurance, et cetera. So yeah, So

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<v Speaker 4>Danny had this idea. He called me about a month

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<v Speaker 4>and a half couple months back and said, remember all

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<v Speaker 4>those wonderful Breakfast with the Beatles parties we did at

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<v Speaker 4>HAPs he said, I said yeah. He said, well, this

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<v Speaker 4>is our fiftieth anniversary of halps Irish Pub. What do

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<v Speaker 4>you think about maybe doing that Breakfast with the Beatles

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<v Speaker 4>reunion party again on a Sunday, And I said that

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<v Speaker 4>would be great. There'd be nothing else that I'd rather

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<v Speaker 4>be doing on a Sunday morning or a Sunday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't getting together with you guys again after all these years,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's been like since two thousand and eight. The

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<v Speaker 4>Fox changed hands in two thousand and nine. I went

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<v Speaker 4>from being a full time disc jockey and was doing

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<v Speaker 4>talk here on seven hundred WLW by that time as

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<v Speaker 4>well on the weekends. But I went from being a

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<v Speaker 4>full time radio guy to a part time talk show host.

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<v Speaker 4>And we'll see how much longer that lasts.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm going to relish the chance to get together,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully was because I've completely lost touch with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of those Beatles breakfast club people over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just happens, and it's probably as much my

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<v Speaker 1>fault as anybody else's that I haven't. But if there

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<v Speaker 1>are any of you listening who attended any of those

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful Breakfast with the Beatles reunion parties, and they were great.

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<v Speaker 1>Danny and his crew would get up early on a

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday morning, they'd finish the fix this incredible Irish breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>for us and the drinks would flow for those who

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<v Speaker 1>were into such things.

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<v Speaker 4>You know some of them are even they loved the

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<v Speaker 4>Bloody Mary's as I recall.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the Bloody Marys were great. You know. I still

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<v Speaker 1>will enjoy a Bailey's and coffee from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a wonderful bar. If you've ever been to

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<v Speaker 1>HAPs Iris Pub, you know this already. If you haven't,

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<v Speaker 1>I would encourage you to get out there for the

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<v Speaker 1>fiftieth anniversary celebration going on this year, and more specifically

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<v Speaker 1>that Sunday in August will be extra special for me

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<v Speaker 1>and I am looking forward to it. And you were

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<v Speaker 1>telling me, Danny about people that still come up to you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's very true and talk about the places sometimes. One

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<v Speaker 4>time I was on a bus and someone overheard me

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<v Speaker 4>talking to somebody else and then they said, did I

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<v Speaker 4>hear you say hap Tires Pub? Someone sitting behind me,

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<v Speaker 4>and they asked me about the breakfast with the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 4>This has happened on numerous occasions and it's just amazing

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<v Speaker 4>to me and the kids. The parents should bring their children,

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<v Speaker 4>yea and now those children are, like, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>their late thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>And their adults their parents in many cases.

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<v Speaker 4>So and there's so I've gotten stories from these adults saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>when I was in high school, my parents drug me

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<v Speaker 4>to this thing and I didn't know what was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a great time, so we really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 4>And the Beatles fanatic fans are very interesting and fun

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<v Speaker 4>to see and talk to, et cetera. You know what,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember the one the first time we did this.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know what we were getting into because you

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<v Speaker 4>and I, my wife Amy, and Nathan and Joe were

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<v Speaker 4>just on the radio with you. So but the first

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<v Speaker 4>time we did it, this one character had John Lennon

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<v Speaker 4>glasses on and the full Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart Club

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<v Speaker 4>band sued on. If remember on the front cover he

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<v Speaker 4>was dressed exactly like that. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 4>remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh of course I remember that guy. Now my current wife,

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<v Speaker 1>who was I was married to then when we started

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<v Speaker 1>this party, Chris did now two point zero as I

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<v Speaker 1>called her, we'd get home from these things, and she goes, man,

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<v Speaker 1>those are some weird people. But I mean, she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean it in a bad way, just in a very

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<v Speaker 1>observant descriptive way, because we all have our little idiosyncrasies

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<v Speaker 1>and our weirdness from time to time. But they are

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<v Speaker 1>a very unusual lot Beatles fans, and I happen to

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<v Speaker 1>be one of them, so I guess I include myself

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<v Speaker 1>in that grouping to hear under the umbrella.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember the one story of a guy the one

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<v Speaker 4>time because people would sit there and exchange all their stories.

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<v Speaker 4>And he had gone to England on a trip and

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<v Speaker 4>he went into a bar and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>part of England, I don't know if it was in

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<v Speaker 4>Liverpool or where, but John Lynn and had been tossed

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<v Speaker 4>out of this bar. So his goal was and he succeeded.

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<v Speaker 4>He found this bar, went in there and drank quite

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<v Speaker 4>a bit, and he got himself tossed out of the

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<v Speaker 4>same bar that John Lennon did.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was quite proud of trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To replicate the Lenin legend of getting tossed out of

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<v Speaker 1>a pub in England. That's great. Well, John Lennon wound

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<v Speaker 1>up when he came to America, got tossed out of

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<v Speaker 1>a few clubs on his lost weekend back in the

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<v Speaker 1>early seventies in Los Angeles, as I recall.

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<v Speaker 6>But.

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<v Speaker 1>Just an incredible diversity of people that were into this.

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<v Speaker 1>The Beatles phenomenon is as much like the Elvis phenomenon

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<v Speaker 1>as anything else that we've experienced in the twentieth century

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<v Speaker 1>in this country for sure, worldwide, but especially in America.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Beatles came to America and they made that

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<v Speaker 1>appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show and it was watched

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<v Speaker 1>by more people than it ever tuned into anything on

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<v Speaker 1>television on a Sunday night, and that was just the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of how crazy it got. And the people that

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<v Speaker 1>came to those shows in Cincinnati at Crosley Field in

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six. Before that, I guess it was Cincinnati Gardens

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty four, they were as rabid as any

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<v Speaker 1>fans of anything that I've ever encountered. And thirty years on,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty and forty years later, they were still that way,

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<v Speaker 4>And I agree, and it's amazing that people are still

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<v Speaker 4>that enthusa But you know, to me, I like all

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of music. Okay, people always say what's your favorite

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot, but to me, their musicality, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it was it was music, and it was instrumental and

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<v Speaker 4>the way you know, it was done in a different category.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like hard rock and roll. It's not like

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<v Speaker 4>the Stones or the other stuff. But it's pleasant music.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was, you know, as I get older and

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes I spend the time to think about it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's absolutely amazing and it's just fantastic music that'll stand

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<v Speaker 4>the test of time like any other you know, whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's classical music or anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and it was such a wide variety of different

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of music. They incorporated everything from classical to show

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<v Speaker 1>tunes to you know, any any branch of popular music

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<v Speaker 1>that had gone before them that they influenced, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from Little Richard and Chuck Berry to Carl Perkins to

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, classical music, symphonic music.

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<v Speaker 3>It's absolutely amazing and still you know, I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 4>To describe it, but it's always pleasant to my ears

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<v Speaker 4>when I listened to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's amazing to me.

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<v Speaker 4>There's just so there's just so many fantastic songs, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me about fifty years it HAPs and everything

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<v Speaker 4>And she made all the food. That's so she fed everybody. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>period of time. I was sixteen years old when he

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<v Speaker 4>That's still you know, we always had Irish music a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>So we've been involved, like I said, with the Irish crowd.

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<v Speaker 4>And we get mail and say, who's this And my

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<v Speaker 1>Guys at your house every year had this wonderful New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Day party, and I got to meet so many

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>So just let let's get down to the brass tacks

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<v Speaker 1>of where people can find HAPs if they haven't by

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<v Speaker 1>this time, and if they haven't by this time, what's

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty five ten Eriie Avenue.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is nothing else like HAPs. You guys still

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<v Speaker 4>The outdoor patio on back, have tables in front, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's not it's just a good old neighborhood Irish pub

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, there's a couple of rooms there.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's Saint Patrick's day, Like Danny, it's still crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Is still crazy, and we open up the parking lot

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<v Speaker 4>and inside and you know, if it's seventy degrees just

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<v Speaker 4>outside there's at least you know, a few hundred people

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<v Speaker 4>in the parking lot easily, I'm not exaggerating. And the

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<v Speaker 4>inside's packed. Amy's always been in charge. We have Irish

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<v Speaker 4>stew that she's really perfected this recipe over the year's

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<v Speaker 4>corn beef and cabbage corn beef sandwiches. So we serve

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<v Speaker 4>on the special occasions we serve food in a traditional

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<v Speaker 4>Irish breakfast. We always serve on Saint Patrick's Day morning,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'll tell you when the people love that so much.

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<v Speaker 4>When COVID hit and you weren't allowed to be open,

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<v Speaker 4>and I recall this quite vividly, that are the governor

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<v Speaker 4>of Ohio closed all the bars three days before Saint

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<v Speaker 4>Patrick's I remember, and I we were very upset and

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<v Speaker 4>people were calling, going, well what about the Irish breakfast?

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<v Speaker 4>And we had already purchased a lot of it, so

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<v Speaker 4>we weren't open, but we still cooked an Irish breakfast

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<v Speaker 4>and did like about fifty carry out Irish breakfast. That's great,

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<v Speaker 4>it was because so people liked it and because it

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<v Speaker 1>And all that sice. I still want to find a

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<v Speaker 1>good piece of blood sausage. Danny and I both have

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<v Speaker 1>in the ensuing years celebrated our sixty fourth birthdays. Mine

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<v Speaker 1>be a fitting way to finish out. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>let you know that on my Saturday Morning show, when

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<v Speaker 1>we pick an exact day, we think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. Man, it's gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're that so was pretty much for sure. We're

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<v Speaker 4>going to do it the third Sunday in August like

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, very good, can't wait, Danny, thank you, brother, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Night Live Extra Edition Nightcap continues Corneill West and

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<v Speaker 5>The news and I got all the losing my head

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<v Speaker 7>Why start your morning with me Tom Brenneman, Well, listen up.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom gives you the latest news, weather, traffic, and more,

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<v Speaker 7>The information you need and a peppery fresh set. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they're not answering their phones, so we will

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<v Speaker 1>continue to try and we'll see what goes down with this.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I wanted to have them on is in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of all of this controversy about what's been

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<v Speaker 1>happening at some of our finer institutions of higher education,

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<v Speaker 1>like Harvard and Columbia and pan and these other places

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<v Speaker 1>that receive federal funds, which I still can't grasp. Why

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a private institution like Harvard or Columbia, why

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<v Speaker 1>you receive federal funds in the first place, Especially with

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<v Speaker 1>the enormous billions of dollars those universities receive in endowments

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<v Speaker 1>happy when President Trump said, listen, you get this anti American,

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<v Speaker 1>about continuing to have the taxpayers subsidize you in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they are. Well. Academics like Cornell West, Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Cornell West, and a man named Robert George got together

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<v Speaker 1>the gap between left and right because they're diametrically opposed

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who has consistently called for things like reparations

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<v Speaker 1>coming together and finding points of commonality that often. And

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<v Speaker 1>that there's any common ground. When we're all human, we

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<v Speaker 1>all basically innately want similar things. We want to be

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<v Speaker 1>not just to American flags, but to institutions, to police stations,

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<v Speaker 1>and calling it mostly peaceful protests. I'm sorry, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>to vandalize or commit violence against someone you disagree with

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<v Speaker 1>American way, and for people to hide behind the First

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<v Speaker 1>Amendment in that fashion, it just doesn't It doesn't wash.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are certain things that we cannot allow in

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<v Speaker 1>a constitutional republic. And those ANTIFA protests that taking over

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<v Speaker 1>an entire section of downtown like they did with Seattle Chop,

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<v Speaker 1>remember Chop, Remember the Summer of Love? They keep calling

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<v Speaker 1>was a mirage. It wasn't real. That didn't happen, But

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<v Speaker 1>that false narrative was told over and over again and

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get You've got these paid protesters on

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<v Speaker 1>campuses that aren't grassroots at all. It's not just a

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<v Speaker 1>These are being paid for by outside sources who want

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<v Speaker 1>to disrupt our society, who want to cause chaos, who

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring down Western culture. It's not about freedom

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<v Speaker 1>of speech. In fact, it is the antithesis. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>exact opposite of freedom of speech when you're not allowing

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<v Speaker 1>But I digress. There is a place where we should

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<v Speaker 1>all meet and agree that some things shouldn't be permissible,

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<v Speaker 1>than we have differences whether you're a Republican or a Democrat.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, Today's Democrat party that saw the election

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<v Speaker 1>of this open he calls himself a socialist, but basically

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<v Speaker 1>York City just last week, and they're applauding Will, not

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<v Speaker 1>bit about the day. Stuff you can agree on if

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<v Speaker 1>as the Reds were celebrating the fiftieth anniversary of the

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Parker. It's seven forty five Sunday Night Live, Gary Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>Phones are open too. Since I don't have guests for you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm plunging it since they both ghosted me. But a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to get some ways to disagree better than we

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<v Speaker 1>are sometimes now in this country. On the telephone line. First,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry in London, Ohio on the New York City election.

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<v Speaker 1>Your thoughts, Jerry.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, I'm a big fan of democracy. You're

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<v Speaker 8>a big fan of democracy. And even when maybe a

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<v Speaker 8>person that I don't approve of, or someone I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 8>vote for, if they win the election, one person, one vote,

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<v Speaker 8>that's what democracy is all about, and we get to

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<v Speaker 8>we get the government, we get the leadership we deserve.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I still want to know the gentleman you're

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<v Speaker 3>referring to.

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<v Speaker 8>I wouldn't. I don't know enough aboutout him. I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>a voter, and that disc free. But again, if if

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<v Speaker 8>he won the election fair and square, and I know

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<v Speaker 8>there's a lot of doubt about that in certain certain

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<v Speaker 8>circles about national elections, but we're talking about this in

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<v Speaker 8>New York. If he if he was voted in by

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<v Speaker 8>a majority of no matter how slim, that's how our

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<v Speaker 8>our system works, and we taught we always say it's

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<v Speaker 8>not perfect, but it's the best in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he is an avowed communist, socialism.

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<v Speaker 8>And and and and that, and they knew that, right.

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<v Speaker 8>It wasn't like anybody got.

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<v Speaker 1>To the war if he was a basic news basically

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<v Speaker 1>just promising free everything to every day and and they

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<v Speaker 1>bought it. Yeah, they bought it.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing. There's nothing free, Jerry.

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<v Speaker 8>Nothing, Well, I know that. But again, either you you

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<v Speaker 8>think the system we have, with all its warts and

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<v Speaker 8>and whatever, is the best system in the world, or

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<v Speaker 8>it's not. Okay, I could say, I could point back

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<v Speaker 8>to something, hey, the last presidential election, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>going to drag that up. It doesn't matter who I

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<v Speaker 8>voted for that. Uh uh. Donald Trump won. He is

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<v Speaker 8>the president of the United States, Okay, So whatever he does,

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<v Speaker 8>he does, and we get the leadership in the government

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<v Speaker 8>we deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would concur. I would concur with you

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely on that. And I just okay, I thought, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>New York City deserved better than that. But we'll find

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<v Speaker 1>out in November when.

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<v Speaker 8>The actual deserves better than that, when.

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<v Speaker 1>The actual genital election happened. The general election hasn't happened yet.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a very good.

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<v Speaker 8>Chance that he's a long ways from from from being

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<v Speaker 8>in office. But we we we want to, we want to.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, maybe I've missed it, but I you know,

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<v Speaker 8>you talk about how we need to be less sacrimonious

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<v Speaker 8>with each other, and you know, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 8>saw something where they're talking about the budget bill and

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<v Speaker 8>and and uh and and Donald Trump said, well, the

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<v Speaker 8>Democrats want to vote for it because they're nasty people

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<v Speaker 8>and they hate our country. Okay, that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 8>thing that you know, are you a united or a divider?

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<v Speaker 8>Some people don't believe in that. That's fine, but I

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<v Speaker 8>don't here. I mean, you guys covered the Shapiro incident

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<v Speaker 8>in Pennsylvania, and you guys covered the assassinations a couple

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<v Speaker 8>of weeks ago in Minnesota. I've heard a couple of

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<v Speaker 8>weeks ago. I don't think there's many any political assassinations

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<v Speaker 8>since then. But I mean, we I haven't heard a

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<v Speaker 8>whole lot about it. You know, when this topic comes up,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, I'm sure money flows both ways. You're saying

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<v Speaker 8>these people are paid instigators. Say, I'm not doubting that,

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<v Speaker 8>but you know, in politics, money flows both ways, like

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<v Speaker 8>when influencers are paid by Russian cutouts. You know, now

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<v Speaker 8>they weren't tied to Trump. But you know, but they

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<v Speaker 8>were paid lots of money because they were influencers.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you did you buy into the now proven

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<v Speaker 1>disproven Russian collusion in the twenty sixteen election?

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<v Speaker 8>Jerry?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you buy into that?

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry doesn't?

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<v Speaker 8>It doesn't matter if I bought into it.

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<v Speaker 9>It's done.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know it's false. You know it was false.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been proven.

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<v Speaker 8>Well okay, okay, okay, so we you know, if you

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<v Speaker 8>want to look backs, we're not going to see what's

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<v Speaker 8>coming in front of us, all right. So, and and

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<v Speaker 8>you know, whether whether I believe that or not, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>not going to say, Okay, I want to let's read

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<v Speaker 8>let's retread this like you know, let's let's beat up

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<v Speaker 8>this guy for this and this guy for this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>for the public decided that they did not believe it,

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<v Speaker 8>and uh the second time around and he got elect it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, I do want to commend you for cleaning up

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<v Speaker 8>your comment about George Floyd.

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<v Speaker 9>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't want to tell you. You did bring up the

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<v Speaker 8>hit that was the death, but I have never in myself,

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<v Speaker 8>I've never I've heard very few people referred to it

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<v Speaker 8>as well. The George Floyd incident, It almost sounds like

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<v Speaker 8>it was accidental.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, negligence is negligence at the hands of someone. Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>Am I saying that the officer wanted to kill George Floyd? Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>But the officer was negligent and he was found guilty

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<v Speaker 8>in a court of log Again, how our system works,

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<v Speaker 8>whether you agree with it or not, all right, But

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<v Speaker 8>for for a time when you were going to bring

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<v Speaker 8>on a died in the wool liberal and died in

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<v Speaker 8>the wool uh Republican or conservative Republican, and and and

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<v Speaker 8>and showing that that we can coexist. Right, fine, But

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<v Speaker 8>you know something, But I think that that that and

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not saying you personally, but I think that there

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<v Speaker 8>are people on your on your staff there who are talent.

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<v Speaker 8>They are whether they work midnights or after hours or whatever, Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>that they are more than willing to paint the other side.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm sure there's people on the other side there

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<v Speaker 8>are more and willing to paint any conservative and any

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<v Speaker 8>kind of broad brush strokes they want. But it is

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<v Speaker 8>done on both sides. And I think that your your

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<v Speaker 8>your your radio station is more than a counterweight locally

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<v Speaker 8>or regionally for what you folks refer to as legacy media.

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<v Speaker 8>You are a huge company, a radio station. You have

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<v Speaker 8>fifty thousand watts and you you're heard all over the

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<v Speaker 8>Eastern Seaboard at night and and and that's good. You're

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<v Speaker 8>it's it's a great station, great history. Okay. But you

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<v Speaker 8>know we try to you know, one one one. One

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<v Speaker 8>person will try to wash their hands of it. The

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<v Speaker 8>other person just digs into the troph even more. And

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not saying one side is any better for it

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<v Speaker 8>than the other.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that there would be certain points that we

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<v Speaker 1>would agree on, Jerry, and I'm sure there would be

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<v Speaker 1>certain points we totally vehemently disagree on.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know something, I'm not here to turn.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I understand, I understand. But I

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<v Speaker 1>allowed you a chance to speak, and I thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for Thank you. Eric Eric in uh in Milford or

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<v Speaker 1>in Ripley, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello Eric, Eric Williams from Milford, Ohio, and I've never

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<v Speaker 5>called in before. I love listening to you and sitting

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<v Speaker 5>on the deck drinking the Kentucky Mule, enjoying the conversation.

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<v Speaker 9>But I want to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I listened to.

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<v Speaker 6>You every Saturday morning, I set my alarm. My wife goes,

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<v Speaker 6>you're crazy. I got listened to Gary Jack and now

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<v Speaker 6>I also listened to the guy before you.

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<v Speaker 1>I like listening to the outdoors, the big outdoors, Chip Hard. Yeah. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been there longer than I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 9>I remember trumpet.

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<v Speaker 6>When I was little, my mom would play it in

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<v Speaker 6>the house at night. We always listened to seven hundred

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<v Speaker 6>Grow with McConnell and whatever. But uh, I listened to

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<v Speaker 6>you all the time. I love it when you go

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<v Speaker 6>out there and talk to those people in Ripley. And

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<v Speaker 6>I love Ripley and that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there today, Eric, I was there last Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been there a lot, even when they used to

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<v Speaker 6>have the tobacco festival there. My dad would always go

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<v Speaker 6>down there where they had the auctions of the tobacco

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<v Speaker 6>from everybody growing their tobacco, all them fields, all the

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<v Speaker 6>way up that river valley, and they would have like

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<v Speaker 6>our Jay Reynolds in these various companies, they'd have a

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<v Speaker 6>live oxen. And I remember, and I'm a little nervous.

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<v Speaker 6>You could go down there in all these tobacco companies

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<v Speaker 6>before of these biggest lawsuits. You could go down here

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<v Speaker 6>and get beach, not red Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Get Ripley.

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<v Speaker 3>I was having this discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>I was having this discussion.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, my dad would be like, hey, we hunt, we

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<v Speaker 6>do these things.

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<v Speaker 9>Get as much as you can. I came back.

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<v Speaker 6>We had a carloads tobacco.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric, That's wonderful, wonderful memories. I wish I had more

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<v Speaker 1>time to reminisce with you, but we're running up against

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<v Speaker 1>the clock. Brother. Hey, thank you for calling, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening, Thank you for listening on Saturday. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night every week you got it, Big Queen of

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<v Speaker 1>Hearts drawing in Ripley at Brookies again this coming Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there buying my tickets today News and then

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully the next guest shows up. If he doesn't, we're

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<v Speaker 1>here till late thirty and the floor is yours, Gary

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Walker's Sunday Night Live, an extra special nightcap on

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<v Speaker 1>seven utter WL. The Reds Win Very Nice is six

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<v Speaker 1>out of the last seven series. A little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a hot streak for the hometown team, especially on a

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<v Speaker 1>weekend that celebrated the fiftieth anniversary of the Big Red Machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Switch Gears. Now, the first time I interviewed this next guest.

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<v Speaker 1>I was riveted. And usually when you have a guest

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<v Speaker 1>on that some would deem controversial or maybe out of

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<v Speaker 1>the mainstream, you kind of just brush it off. I

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<v Speaker 1>could not brush this off. I've never been able to

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<v Speaker 1>get the story of what happened to his family, what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to his daughter Grace out of my mind. I

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<v Speaker 1>never will. I continue to pray for them and to

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<v Speaker 1>follow what has been going on with Scott Sharah and

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<v Speaker 1>our amazing Grace. About ten days ago, a criminal trial,

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<v Speaker 1>a trial of Shara versus ascension health concluded. It was

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<v Speaker 1>June nineteenth. But he has very definite ideas about medical practices,

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<v Speaker 1>the medical community in this country. What he refers to

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<v Speaker 1>and what I believe is a series legal medical complex

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<v Speaker 1>that is in many cases a cult of death and

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<v Speaker 1>protecting people who do others harm. And we have him

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<v Speaker 1>back post trial, Scott Shara, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, sir, well.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm doing well and I really appreciate the introduction. Then

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<v Speaker 9>thanks for having me back. I mean you following and

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<v Speaker 9>praying for family is fantastic. The case, by the way,

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<v Speaker 9>was a simple case. It's not a criminal case, which

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<v Speaker 9>made the burden of proof left, but unbelievably, the jury

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<v Speaker 9>still decided eleven to one in favor of the medical

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<v Speaker 9>industrial establishment. And of course we're in shock over that decision.

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<v Speaker 9>But as I've studied, now I have about four thousand

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<v Speaker 9>dollars of research under my belt, the decision doesn't surprise

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<v Speaker 9>me at all. Yeah, I don't know that I'll ever

634
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<v Speaker 9>for sure get over the shock, but it's not surprising

635
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 9>because of how deep the program means he is, and

636
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:45.760
<v Speaker 9>very few people understand. For example, a basic tenet that

637
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<v Speaker 9>they've convinced this stuff is that doctors first do no harm.

638
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<v Speaker 9>That is what is the paraphrase of the supposed hypocratic goals. Well,

639
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 9>as you know from prior interview, as I dug into

640
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<v Speaker 9>the hypocritic ope and found out it's not first dunal harm.

641
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<v Speaker 9>In fact, it's an od to Satanic God. And it's

642
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<v Speaker 9>no wonder why we're in the shape that we're in

643
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<v Speaker 9>with pharmacia controlling our entire population, that people are blind

644
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<v Speaker 9>to it. Then we presented quite a case. We had

645
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:26.639
<v Speaker 9>a substantially better case. We focused on the medicine and

646
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:30.280
<v Speaker 9>the illegal do not resuscitate order. We had better witnesses,

647
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 9>better experts. I mean, it was a fantastic case. The

648
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.360
<v Speaker 9>people who watched the whole trial, and praise God, it

649
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 9>was livestream to the nation. It's all on YouTube now.

650
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<v Speaker 9>The people who watched the whole trial, myself included, we're

651
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:49.119
<v Speaker 9>all shocked. But what was decided at the trial was

652
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:53.719
<v Speaker 9>the jury decided that informed consent, which is a pillar

653
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 9>of medicine, is not required in a hospital. That by

654
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:02.360
<v Speaker 9>just going into a you're giving implied consent, so the

655
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<v Speaker 9>doctors have no responsibility to tell you what's going on.

656
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<v Speaker 9>And what made matters worse is they also decided that

657
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<v Speaker 9>a doctor can unilaterally put a DNR on a patient

658
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<v Speaker 9>without consent, without a witness, without a signature, and without

659
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<v Speaker 9>a DNR bracelet. That's what the defense presented, and the

660
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<v Speaker 9>jury agreed with the defense instead of me and our

661
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<v Speaker 9>team language.

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<v Speaker 1>That is shocking because for years I have been convinced

663
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<v Speaker 1>and thought that the DNR was issued by the patient

664
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<v Speaker 1>or the patient's family, not the doctors. I mean, your daughter,

665
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Grace did not sign a do not resuscitate. You were

666
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<v Speaker 1>not even allowed to be in the room, and you

667
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:57.039
<v Speaker 1>did not agree to a do not resuscitate order. And

668
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<v Speaker 1>then they basically fed Grace enough drugs that she died.

669
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<v Speaker 1>That's the way I understand it.

670
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<v Speaker 9>Well, that's exactly right. I mean, they gave her a presodx,

671
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.880
<v Speaker 9>lorazepam and morphine at a twenty six minute window and

672
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:12.320
<v Speaker 9>it euthanized her. And when it came time to revive her,

673
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.239
<v Speaker 9>that's when we learned she had a DNR on her chart.

674
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<v Speaker 9>Because we were screaming at this point, I was not

675
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:21.039
<v Speaker 9>in the hospital because I was evicted three days earlier.

676
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:25.239
<v Speaker 9>Our daughter, Jessica was with Grace and she had called Cindy,

677
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.440
<v Speaker 9>my wife, and I on FaceTime and we were all

678
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:33.840
<v Speaker 9>screaming to save our daughter and the nursing staff from

679
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 9>outside the hall. They wouldn't even come in the rooms.

680
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:40.760
<v Speaker 9>They screamed back, she's DNR. Jessica quickly ran in the

681
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<v Speaker 9>hall and one of the nurses showed Jessica the screen

682
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.719
<v Speaker 9>and said, we can't do anything. The doctor put a

683
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:51.400
<v Speaker 9>DNR order on her chart, and they refused to even

684
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.800
<v Speaker 9>reverse the DNR when we said she's not DNR, which

685
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.239
<v Speaker 9>there's a state statute that says they're supposed to reverse

686
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:05.039
<v Speaker 9>it upon oral replication, and they still wouldn't do it,

687
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:08.559
<v Speaker 9>and the jury decided still in favor. They said that

688
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:13.599
<v Speaker 9>even in that situation, the nurses did not do anything wrong.

689
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<v Speaker 9>You know. That's why I'm in shock. But you know, again,

690
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<v Speaker 9>I'm not surprised, but I'm in shock because it was

691
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:25.639
<v Speaker 9>so blatant and so obvious. We thought, we really thought

692
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:29.639
<v Speaker 9>we had a chance to win against this medical industrial complex.

693
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<v Speaker 9>And it's worse than what I thought. One juror stood

694
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<v Speaker 9>in stood with us, you know. And so when you

695
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<v Speaker 9>do the math of one out of twelve, that's eight percent.

696
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<v Speaker 9>And I really think that eight percent represents the percentage

697
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:48.400
<v Speaker 9>of the population that actually is awake. And that's that's

698
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<v Speaker 9>a sad reflection on the status of our country.

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<v Speaker 1>You believe, and you you have charged that the legal

700
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>system in this country provides cover for the medical systems

701
00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:02.639
<v Speaker 1>life licens to kill, from the Americans with Disability Act

702
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to state statutes preventing accountability for medical staff from malpractice.

703
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, why did doctors pay all this malpractice insurance

704
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 1>if you can't charge anybody with malpractice? Scott, That's that's

705
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<v Speaker 1>what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, that's a fantastic question. I'm going through some statistics

707
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.679
<v Speaker 9>and then I'll back into why I'm why I'm making

708
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:31.960
<v Speaker 9>those statements public. So in a recent year, these statistics are,

709
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:35.320
<v Speaker 9>by the way, quoted from an HBO documentary called Bleedout.

710
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<v Speaker 9>Steve Burrows did that documentary his mom was almost killed

711
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<v Speaker 9>in a hospital and he filed the lawsuits similar to

712
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<v Speaker 9>me and lost. And one of the statistics that he

713
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<v Speaker 9>pointed out is that in Wisconsin annually there's twenty seven

714
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.840
<v Speaker 9>thousand patients who are injured or die. On those twenty

715
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<v Speaker 9>seven thousand, only eighty four lawsuits are filed. Only twenty

716
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.039
<v Speaker 9>two of the eighty four actually go to trial, and

717
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:05.079
<v Speaker 9>only three win for the patient. And so why is that, Well,

718
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<v Speaker 9>it's because there is a state statute that I will

719
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<v Speaker 9>payout in a medical malpractice lawsuit is seven hundred and

720
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<v Speaker 9>fifty thousand, and that the only exception to that is

721
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<v Speaker 9>if you have a loss of companionship claim. Well, in

722
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<v Speaker 9>Grace's case, Grace is a legal adult who is nineteen

723
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:29.199
<v Speaker 9>years old. A legal adult without a spouse and without

724
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.800
<v Speaker 9>children means that there is no loss of companionship claim.

725
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<v Speaker 9>So the maximum in Grace's lawsuit with one hundred and

726
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:40.519
<v Speaker 9>fifty thousand, it costs over one million dollars in legal

727
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:43.840
<v Speaker 9>fees to take this to trial, so you can obvious

728
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<v Speaker 9>see we weren't doing it for the money. We were

729
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<v Speaker 9>doing it because Grace represents one point two million Americans

730
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<v Speaker 9>who were murdered in hospitals in similar conditions to Grace

731
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<v Speaker 9>during this COVID thirty nine ons COVID era it's going

732
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<v Speaker 9>on today. I mean, COVID was an open it. That's

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<v Speaker 9>why I found Scott.

734
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm losing I'm losing your phone signal.

735
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:12.000
<v Speaker 3>So just oh, shoot, no, it's okay, it's all right.

736
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<v Speaker 1>You're clear now. So uh, okay, go back to where

737
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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about Grace, and uh what occurred.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, what what happened with Grace in the hospital is

739
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<v Speaker 10>clearly medical malpractice. I mean, how can you give a

740
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<v Speaker 10>patient presod ex loracipem and morphine without consent? And she

741
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:41.519
<v Speaker 10>she had two overdose events from presod x prior. She

742
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<v Speaker 10>had an overdose on October seventh and October eighth, and

743
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<v Speaker 10>the jury even decided that it's not a requirement for

744
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<v Speaker 10>the doctors to tell you that she had an overdose.

745
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<v Speaker 10>And then the third overdose, which happened on October thirteenth,

746
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<v Speaker 10>was the one that obviously it was too much.

747
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<v Speaker 9>And it had killed her. What they did was they

748
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.760
<v Speaker 9>added morphine to the mix, which you know morphine when

749
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:09.440
<v Speaker 9>combined with presodex and lorazapam, those are contra indicated meds.

750
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:12.920
<v Speaker 9>The morphine package insert says that death is a side

751
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<v Speaker 9>effect for combining those three meds.

752
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<v Speaker 1>So was she was she in such terrible pain they

753
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 1>had to give her morphine? Scott, what was her condition

754
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 1>before her this death?

755
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:22.960
<v Speaker 3>The question?

756
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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, she was not in pain at all. In fact,

757
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:28.880
<v Speaker 9>the nurse who gave her the med said that she was.

758
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:32.920
<v Speaker 9>She recorded in the nursing notes that Grace was somnolent

759
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:36.440
<v Speaker 9>at five o'clock again somnolent at five point thirty. But

760
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<v Speaker 9>she gave her two doses of laazepam at five forty

761
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<v Speaker 9>six and five forty nine. Well think through this. And

762
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<v Speaker 9>then they were measuring Grace's blood pressure at and at

763
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<v Speaker 9>six oh nine. They they said she did not have

764
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<v Speaker 9>a blood pressure. At six fifteen, they gave her morphine.

765
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<v Speaker 9>The expert that we had, doctor Burdine, said it is

766
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<v Speaker 9>the most egregious clinical decision that he's ever seen in

767
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:00.760
<v Speaker 9>forty six years of meta practice.

768
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>My goodness. Now, now this was this happened during during COVID,

769
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 1>and there were protocols that were put in place, and

770
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 1>and you've also talked about this phrase that many people

771
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:21.199
<v Speaker 1>will hear in cases like Graces and many others, called

772
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:24.719
<v Speaker 1>standard of care. What does that mean standard of care?

773
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:29.639
<v Speaker 9>Scott, Yeah, there's So there's two definitions of standards of care.

774
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 9>One is objective, the other one is subjective. So an

775
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:38.360
<v Speaker 9>objective standard of care would be that you develop cancer

776
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:41.159
<v Speaker 9>and the standard of care is chemotherapy for your cancer.

777
00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:44.280
<v Speaker 9>That doesn't make it right, but that's the standard of care.

778
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:49.119
<v Speaker 9>So that's an objective standard of care. A subjective standard

779
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 9>of care is what ir reasonable doctor would do in

780
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:56.320
<v Speaker 9>a similar situation. So this is this is ultimately why

781
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:56.920
<v Speaker 9>we lost.

782
00:47:57.559 --> 00:47:58.280
<v Speaker 1>We brought in.

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<v Speaker 9>Two experts that said what they did was wrong, they

784
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:05.119
<v Speaker 9>did not follow the standard of care. They brought in

785
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:08.360
<v Speaker 9>six experts that said they did follow the standard of care,

786
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:11.760
<v Speaker 9>that there's no informed consent necessary, And like I said

787
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<v Speaker 9>in my open a doctor can unilaterally put in a

788
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<v Speaker 9>DNR on a patient. And so their six experts were

789
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:21.519
<v Speaker 9>believed by the jury compared to our two experts. Your

790
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.440
<v Speaker 9>common sense would tell you you don't need experts to

791
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.480
<v Speaker 9>tell you what the standard of care should be. Right,

792
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:30.760
<v Speaker 9>you'll treat your neighbor as yourself as God's standard of care.

793
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.039
<v Speaker 9>I mean, wouldn't you, if you're a doctor, want to

794
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:36.639
<v Speaker 9>tell your patient what you're doing. If you're a doctor,

795
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:40.800
<v Speaker 9>wouldn't you want to let them make their own decision

796
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:43.599
<v Speaker 9>on a do not resuscitate order? I mean, think it through.

797
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.280
<v Speaker 9>This isn't rocket science that we're talking about here.

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00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>How is the American with Disabilities Act helping to kill people?

799
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<v Speaker 9>Well, the reason is because so in Grace's case, Grace

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<v Speaker 9>had a right to an advocate under the Americans with

801
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:02.239
<v Speaker 9>Disabilities Act. Similarly, she had a right to not be

802
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:04.760
<v Speaker 9>scrapped down to the bed and made to defecate in

803
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:08.480
<v Speaker 9>the bed. So those are egregious things that happen. Grace

804
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.960
<v Speaker 9>was without an advocate for over fifty percent of the time.

805
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<v Speaker 9>After I was kicked out. They increased the door suppress

806
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<v Speaker 9>at seven times, they sedated Grace instead of taking care

807
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<v Speaker 9>of her. These are all violations of the Americans with

808
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:24.000
<v Speaker 9>Disabilities Act. So you would ask logically, well, why didn't

809
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:28.679
<v Speaker 9>we have a disability rights claim in the lawsuit. Well,

810
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:34.079
<v Speaker 9>the reason is that Grace's disability rights expired upon death,

811
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<v Speaker 9>and that's the sigh up of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

812
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<v Speaker 9>A lot of the laws that our legislators pass are

813
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<v Speaker 9>with a lot of fanfare to give them a pad

814
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<v Speaker 9>on the back by their constituents, but they're really hidden

815
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<v Speaker 9>lies because think through that, how is it that you

816
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:55.920
<v Speaker 9>can't have a claim. I mean, these people should be

817
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:58.800
<v Speaker 9>locked up for what they did to Grace, but her

818
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:02.079
<v Speaker 9>claims expire upon death. And that's how the Americans with

819
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<v Speaker 9>Disabilities helps to facilitate death.

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<v Speaker 1>You say that we're in a spiritual battle right now,

821
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<v Speaker 1>and I agree with you. Satan is the real enemy.

822
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<v Speaker 1>And you are constantly sharing these with people through our

823
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<v Speaker 1>Amazing Grace and through your podcast. And where can people

824
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<v Speaker 1>find your podcast if they're interested in want to know

825
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<v Speaker 1>more not only about what happened to Grace and your family,

826
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<v Speaker 1>but what they need to be aware of for themselves

827
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<v Speaker 1>and their families.

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<v Speaker 9>So everything is linked to our main website or Amazing

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<v Speaker 9>Grace dot net and so on that website in the

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<v Speaker 9>operating corner. You can subscribe to our newsletter, so everything

831
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:49.480
<v Speaker 9>that I post is done there. I'm writing an extensive

832
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<v Speaker 9>substack right now. It's tens of pages to summarize the case.

833
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<v Speaker 9>I've been working at it all weekend long, so that'll

834
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<v Speaker 9>be an excellent read. Once that's posted. The link to

835
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<v Speaker 9>my podcast it's called Deprogramming with Grace's Dad. That's also

836
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<v Speaker 9>on the main website, but it can be found on

837
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<v Speaker 9>all the major platforms, including rumbull, SoundCloud. And what is

838
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:18.960
<v Speaker 9>happening is that as I have been deprogramming myself with

839
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.440
<v Speaker 9>unfolding the lives that I've been told since birth, I'm

840
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<v Speaker 9>I'm sharing the results through podcasts and I have well

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<v Speaker 9>over a hundred of them recorded now, and you know,

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<v Speaker 9>it's eye opening, and I'm praise God I'm able to

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<v Speaker 9>have the ability to put these things together and share

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<v Speaker 9>it with the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and when you say deprogramming, you mean deprogramming from what.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it's funny. When I first realized how programmed I was,

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<v Speaker 9>I called it the Santa Claus effects. So once you

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<v Speaker 9>realize that Santa Claus isn't real, you're your next question

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<v Speaker 9>is what about the easter bunny? What about the tooth fairy? Well,

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<v Speaker 9>in my case, I realized that okay, well, COVID was

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<v Speaker 9>a SIAP, it was Grace. Grace hospital. Yeah, Grace lost

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<v Speaker 9>their life in a hospital so that they could get

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<v Speaker 9>the jab in people's arms. Okay, So then, okay, So

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<v Speaker 9>if COVID was a lie, what else I found out? Well,

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<v Speaker 9>nine to eleven was a lie, and the Fiat currency

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<v Speaker 9>is a lie. And you know, there's just it goes

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<v Speaker 9>on and on and on, and you know, I explained

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<v Speaker 9>about the hippocratical it's being a lie while we've been

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<v Speaker 9>talking right now, and there's so many there's so many

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<v Speaker 9>of these, it's almost our entire existence is is a

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<v Speaker 9>lie where we chase we end up chasing the American dream.

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<v Speaker 9>And now to participate in the American dream, both mom

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<v Speaker 9>and dad have to work to send their kids to

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<v Speaker 9>the public fool system for indoctrination. They need to get

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<v Speaker 9>eighty shots.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, it's all it's all designed with one thing

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<v Speaker 9>in mind, which is Satan's battle for souls to control us.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know, ultimately, what I have stumbled across is

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<v Speaker 9>this methodology to hasten death.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Scott, listen, I wish we had more time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's worthy of a longer discussion. But God bless you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm continuing to pray for you and your family, and

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for being with us tonight.

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<v Speaker 9>I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you too, our amazing Grace dot net if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know more, And that's all for us. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what a roller coaster ride. Back again soon and we

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<v Speaker 1>have plenty more wonderful programming for you, so please stick around.

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