Speaker 1: Hey, what's up. Welcome to the Truth Seca Podcast. My
name is Erin. I'm excited and delighted to be with you.
Speaker 2: Now you're making fun of me. You do it, You're
doing my thing and you and you're making fun of it.
Speaker 1: I'm not making fun. I love it.
Speaker 2: I'm excited and delighted to be with you.
Speaker 1: I'm just dorky. It's just what you get.
Speaker 2: So all I am excited.
Speaker 1: My amazing guest today that I have with me is
truth Seeker.
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? Everybody?
Speaker 1: World renowned scholar, no UFO expert, keep going, beloved of
christ mystic, Christian mystics.
Speaker 2: I'm joking Christian mystic for sure, talented. Well, thanks for having.
Speaker 1: Me, Aaron, You're so welcome.
Speaker 2: One of the last ones. They were like, it was
so cool to see you interviewing your wife. Yeah, I
had to, you know, I talk a lot. I had
to make myself. I wanted to make sure we got
your story out on the on the trauma one in
your story, So try my best. You did good, you did.
Speaker 1: Great, And I don't talk a lot, so talking a
lot is a challenge for me.
Speaker 2: So here we go. Well, we're going to talk about upology,
UFOs and angels and aliens and what they may be.
Maybe we'll share some of our experiences, because God knows,
we got some. We got some. I feel like I'm
leaning in for the mic and just yeah, okay, all right,
So what do we got going on before we start
talking about weird stuff? So let's talk about weird stuff.
Let's talk about regular stuff.
Speaker 1: So we want to talk about our retreat coming up.
We have a retreat coming up July eighteenth through the
twentieth in Knoxville, Tennessee. Our good friends Melissa and John
Powell are having us up there, and Melissa is going
to teach on herbalism and medicinal plants, and we're gonna
have ca caw ceremony. We're going to have a sacred
sound immersion with the sound bowls and a gong. We
just got an amazing gong. It's super resonant. It's really
you can fill your heart chakra vibrating when you play it.
It's amazing, it's freaking awesome. We are going to do
some teaching on fumigation incense, and we recently got in
relationship with Awakened to the one. Is that the name
that get right awakened to the one. It's a new company,
new people that we learned about through someone else, and
they have relationship with the Franknsonse trees. Yeah, and it's
Boswilia's sakra. It's the sacred Franknsnse strain. So this one
is is bred only for that purpose of being used
in sacred ceremony and they actually go and harvest it
themselves and have relationship with the land and with the
trees and the sap and man, it is beautiful and yeah,
it's beautiful medicine. And we're going to be bringing it
to be a part of our ceremony with you guys
in Knoxville.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to uh be able to introduce that
to everybody. It kind of sucks, though, because like, once
you've been introduced to that, you can't go back. Oh,
I know, you can't go back to Amazon incense or
or resin Like, it's not the same. It's not the
same at all.
Speaker 1: Intention matters, man, when you really do it with your
heart right and your intention set for what it's going
to be used for, and it helps create a more
beautiful experience for people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I mean shoots there's a lot of amazing
stuff to where like where we're going with this podcast,
when we're talking about aliens and UFOs and angels and
demons and all that, I think that that there's a
conversation where, you know, fumigation, for one, played a role
in antiquity and in ancient Christianity to drive out spirits,
to subdue and make spirits subside, and to calm them down.
I mean even with your spirit, you know, with your
your feelings and emotions and stuff, and there's all of
that just the way you feel. But also like a
deeper conversation that these plants and mushrooms and things like
that were before the embodiments of gods or people. You know,
all of the mythology ties ties the plant, all the
kingdoms back to a former kingdom that existed. So, you know,
I think it's real easy because we get caught up
in like that's not spiritual, Incense isn't spiritual, you know,
and you see that by most Christians, they've been taught
to demonize or to not to demonize what do you
call it, disrespect and really trample these precious gems pearls
under their feet. The moment we begin to talk about them.
You don't need that for exorcisms. Well, O, the people
before you did, the early Church did, and they wrote
about it extensively.
Speaker 1: Let me tell that to people who call on Jesus
every day asking for help and then nothing happens. Like,
what are you going to tell those people.
Speaker 2: You need Jesus. It's only Jesus is what you need,
is what they say, until Jesus doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I like the cut one comment you said about
fumigation and incense where it came to somebody said, Jesus
is all you need? Would you say?
Speaker 1: I said, but Jesus is the one holding this plant
out to you, saying this can heal you, and you
just slap his hand away and say, no, I want
you to do it. I don't want to do it.
I want you to do it.
Speaker 2: Jesus is all you need. Okay. Jesus has given you
these incense that He's made away for healing, to flow
freely from the throne of Heaven to the bosom of
Mother Gaia to you that you, by partaking your body
would be at ease, your mind would be at ease,
your emotions will come into subjection to the perfect will
of God, the word of God by coming into harmony
and unison with everything. But you don't want it. You'd
rather take an alternate route and have Jesus. The Bible says,
do not tempt the Lord that God. I think all
of that falls under the guise of tempting, because you're like,
I don't want that. I want to wear the clothing.
I want to eat what I want to eat. I
want to wear what I want to wear. I want
to do what I want to do. That's rebellion. Rebellion
is as the sin of witchcraft. God's given you precepts.
And the reason we're so passionate about these is because
we find all of this in the Bible, like in Passing.
In Passing, you don't just like read about Abraham planting
a grove of a certain tree and then keep moving
and that tree is never mentioned again. We're like, when
we're where we are in the Bible, we don't let
anything slide hold on Abraham. What tree? What growth did
you plan?
Speaker 1: What is the tamerisk tree?
Speaker 2: The mrist tree look like? What does it do to
the psyche? What does it do to your body? Why
the pastor didn't tell me about the termorrist.
Speaker 1: Tree who came through that desert later and encountered those trees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's little pearls that are spread out before
the swine, and we've all trampled them because we just
oh yeah, tamarist Tree seen one of them before. Oh yeah.
Franknsin's resident that the priests would burn in the temple
and go in and receive messages from God. I don't
need frankinsense. I just need Jesus. Okay, your life looks
like it too. Your life looks like all you need
is Jesus because it seemed like it ain't working.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Christ is in all and through all,
it is it is.
Speaker 2: It is just Jesus. I know it sounds like facetious
or whatever we're mocking, but we're mocking the fact that
every good and perfect gift comes from the Father above.
Speaker 1: We reject Christ when he comes in other forms, like
even other people, Like somebody can do something mean to you,
that doesn't mean that they don't have Christ and Love
within them somewhere. And we reject people. We reject plants, foods.
Speaker 2: The moment you tell, so many evangelicals, won't they find
out that Jesus wasn't a white man. They're not. They're
going to reject that. They already do, like he has
to look a certain way, speak a certain language. And
when you find out that he's not any of those
things that you think, but all of them at the
same time. Yeah, you know, for me, it's a greater
love or greater respect, you know, for him, a greater
power that he literally is in all and through all.
I don't know we're talking about this. This is the
you know, the details of the relationship that it is
ancient and it is an intelligence with all of the kingdoms,
especially the plants and the minerals and the crystals and
all of that. So to to deny people an aspect
of any of that is to deny them an aspect
of Jesus.
Speaker 1: It is it's blasphemy in the biggest form YEP to
demonize these things that are so beautiful that that help
you himself breathe life and created it for us to
show us an aspect of himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The studies are as as simplistic and as close
or as deep as you want to go with them.
And I would, you know, suggest to any and everybody
to just do a simple study on like you know,
whatever plant that's mentioned and look up the medicinal properties,
but also look up the studies that were done by
different universities, and you'll find out that, hold on, there
is a plant sage, frankincense, Myrrh, Paolo Santo copol resin, jasmine, lavender,
all of these you know, central oils got big for
a reason. They exist like in tandem with with with
us and and uh and help us and alleviate so
many symptoms and make us feel better and relieve stress.
And the fact that you know, people don't want to
tie it into demons and you know, demonology or using
it with exorcisms or whatever is They don't you know,
they don't know what whatever definition they have in their
mind of what a demon is and what at least
what the symptoms they also cause. It's a spirit of infirmity.
And so if you read the list, when you look
up these studies, they like sage and so many friends
in the plant kingdom, like their DNA, they exist to
counteract all of these things that were done to us
by the enemy, like they fight against these symptoms. They fight.
Eat this plant, your depression goes away. I don't want
that plant. I want Jesus, Okay, you don't. What is
the spirit of infirmity? If it's not depression and sickness?
What is a demon? Then? Is it a ghostly ghastly goblin?
It is, it's all of those things. But you know,
the way you tell that they're there is not you
know you're seeing them outside of you. It's you're seeing
how you're responding to you know, under pressure, and you
have this stuff in you well, And.
Speaker 1: Demons come to show us things about ourselves that maybe
we need to change or get rid of things that
are stuck in us. They come to like prick us
and you know, bring out these negative energies and negative
emotions and things and so that I mean, they even
have a purpose. But when they come and stir up
this depression or anxiety or whatever, and it's it's giving
you an end to say, hey, I know now that
this is in here, and I can do something to
get it out. Then why wouldn't you use every tool
in your arsenal Because as a society we are taught
to look for a quick fix for everything. You don't
want to change your diet and exercise every day and
get out in the sunlight. You'd rather just take a pill,
go to the doctor and take a pill, so quick
fix you don't you don't have to physically do anything.
Just take this pill. All the work's been done for you.
But I mean, how many times does the easy road
lead to the good result?
Speaker 2: They say, well, you pay now or pay later? Yeah,
you know for your diet or for your health. You know,
so we got more than enough, you know, allies, And
what I always tools like, we have so many tools
in our arsenal that help us that we don't have
to be reliant on one thing. We can see God
and in con our God through all of those things.
And it's so amazing that we have, you know, diet
and nutrition and incense and resin. Man, that's just a couple.
That's not like our only thing. This is they're amazing
when you get into relationship with it and just the feeling.
Speaker 1: And what it's.
Speaker 2: Doing to your body. I think that leads us to
something we should talk about. We talked about on the
last episode is our friends at Magic Mind. Since this
these awesome shots of love, energy, cognitive, Yeah, that really
that really helped We always talk about like just because
of our you know, routine and what we're doing in
the mornings and stuff. And we've been taking them first
thing in the morning with our coffee while we do
our Bible studies and so helping them to focus. And
we're taking vitamins because it's got vitamins in it, it's
got nutrients. It helps you to focus and then to
be calm and not to be jittery. And it's got
this like extended, like prolonged release, so it's not like
this quick energy shot to stay awake. When I was
a truck driver, I totally could have used these. Everybody's
like hitting no those to try to stay awake at
the wheel and stuff. And it's crazy. I couldn't drink
that stuff hard racing and pounding and stuff. But like
something like this I think would have been good for
me as a truck driver. And shout out because we
got a bunch of truck drivers listening to this. I
get messages people love it. They're like, dude, I'm doing
what you used to do and it's awesome. So shout
shout out to our truck driving community. But I would
have I would have loved to have this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally, because it's so good for you. It's
got new tropics in it, it's got lions made that's
good for forming new neuro connections in your brain.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So any kind of study or anything you're doing that
you want to form new patterns, this is great to
accompany that kind of a lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, our lifestyle has changed drastically in the last five months,
and we have a lot of new things that we're
in relationship with. And and I say a lot, I
wouldn't even say it's a lot. It's just different things
now that are a part of our daily routine and
daily regimen. And so getting the right nutrients and vitamins
and the mushrooms and all of the stuff from you know,
we're talking about frankincense and sage and all of the
stuff that you know, the mushrooms that this this drink has,
and it has the vitamins, and we take our vitamins
every day, and it's got turmeric in it, and we
take turmeric every day. Like a part of our daily
dose of what we take is already in here. And
we we have like we take our vitamins and stuff
like separately, but now we've got them all in one place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we're buying all these We have vitamin C,
vitamin D K, vitamin K, turmeric, and then I wanted
to get some of the supplements for the lions. Main
There's a guy here locally that sells lines maine, but
he's he's like a good hour drive away, so we
try to hit it when we're nearby, and we just
haven't worked it out. But I mean, this has got
that in there. It's got lines maine, it's got cordys EPs.
It's just like an amazing little mind performance shot, everything
all in one. Your vitamins and focus and a little
bit of caffeine and the green tea that he puts
in here. It helps your body absorb the caffeine over
time so you don't have that spike and then feel
like crap later.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They have a no risk money back guarantee that
if you try it and you don't like it, you
can get your money back, no questions asked. Yeah, but
the thing is like they believe in their product, and
we believe in it just as much to say go
check it out because you're gonna love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not gonna want your money back.
Speaker 2: I mean, so many people who are working from home
now and have a problem focusing, Go check them out.
The link is in the description. You can go to
the website for Magic Mind and we have a promo
code that will give you twenty percent off of a
one time purchase and I think it was like forty
eight percent off of a subscription. So and again risk
free money back guarantee. Go try it, use our promo
code and hopefully they'll keep sending us more because it's amazing.
Speaker 1: We'll make sure the links in the description. This stuff's awesome.
They grow the mushrooms organically in California. They source out
everything from the highest quality. I know that their macha
is the highest grade available for purchase. They really made
a superior product and it does what they say, and
that's why they have the money back guarantee because they
know ye try it and you do it want more.
Speaker 2: There are people who will do that, but they're just thinking.
They're just a hater. They're just do Hey, I can
get something free. You just want to free, be like
you buy it and to try to get it back,
like you're not gonna want to like if you like,
when you pay for this, you're gonna you're gonna want
to you're gonna want to sign up for the subscription.
Speaker 1: And I want to say we noticed a difference on
like day two or three. It did not notice it.
Speaker 2: I noticed as soon as we took it, though, I
mean that's it. Yeah, you like imbibe it and it
integrates with you of like, cause you're just your your
whole mood over a span of like I think it's
like a seven day thing or seven to ten days
or whatever. To drink it. It just changes the way
that that you you feel like in general. Yeah, it's
just like it just gives you a boost, like you know.
And uh, but I mean as soon as I took it,
like you can feel the benefits then, but then you know,
I don't know, it's just I love it. So how
about cheers?
Speaker 1: Cheers?
Speaker 2: Magic mind?
Speaker 1: And they say you should chill it, but I don't
think you have to it the way it is.
Speaker 2: Sharper mind, lower stress, better energy. Again, we take this
usually with our with our Bible studies first thing, but
since we were doing a podcast where like let's wait,
let's drink it on camera and show everybody. Yeah, because
we really love it and we thank you guys will too.
There's gonna be a bunch of stuff that we're going
to be promoting again. We talked about the incense and
the resin and all of the stuff that those guys
Synthus is amazing, Like you you were about to cry.
Speaker 1: It brought tears to my eyes.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. That's is that. It's weird. It's awesome, but
like I know, I'm weird.
Speaker 1: It's okay, No, I'm.
Speaker 2: Just it's awesome. It's it's cool because we you know,
we get emotional over burning incense.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, even like the last podcast we did, we
talked about when you give something a meaning that doesn't
have meaning, Like a lot of people could get that
and you know, and aren't it ritualistically and not mean
the same thing. But for me it has a deeper
meaning and it's just very very emotional and spiritual and yeah,
yeah it touches me here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just because there's levels to it, you know,
because we were like we were content with Amazon bought Frankensnse.
It's good. We love it, like it's oh yeah, spiritual, awesome.
But then it's like I feel like God's like, hey,
we got some people we want you to meet who yeah,
are in relationship and know the angels that you guys
are talking about and you guys are teaching people about
now that we just tested you to make sure that
you like the knockoff you know, Amazon Resident whatever it is,
because it's not the same thing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Because it's not the same thing, and we're going to
introduce you to this.
Speaker 1: Well, there's several different strains too. Once you start studying
Franknsnse and the Boswelier trees that it comes from. There's
several different trees and like I said, this one that
he harvests from that they harvest from the Boswilia sacra
is was created and cultivated only for sacred purposes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, we'll have all that stuff. We're gonna
if we believe in something, man, we're going to share it.
Like and that's weird too. Who somebody said that recently,
But it's been a meme over years for people like
trying to hide the good stuff, like they don't want
to tell you about the good stuff or how you
can become successful or something like there's a scarcity mentality.
I forget who it was, but somebody brought it up recently.
It was just like blown away that we're like giving
away all of our resources and plugs and stuff like that.
It's like we.
Speaker 1: Don't operate out of a lack of mentality anymore. Like
when you realize that there is no such thing as lack,
this is just something that you create. Abundance is everywhere.
And a friend of mine shared this today on Facebook
that fundance is all around you. It's you that creates
the limitation. So when you realize that and remove the limitation, well,
I mean, what's the fear. Yeah, the only fear is like,
oh my gosh, everyone's gonna have this awesome tool, this
awesome experience. And that's not a fear, that's a hope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you you know, it comes full circle. I
do it in hopes of that. I feel like I've
projected some in the past with my friends, but you
know of like how to you know, start a podcast,
so let's do this, or how to do this with music?
And they, you know, I don't know if they you know,
I would say that they didn't ask, but they did.
And you just want to help, yeah, because I want
somebody to help me, Like like if you're starting a
podcast or you say, man, I want to do this.
I want to quit work in my job. I wish
I could stay at home and make music. Guess what
you can, sir, I love to stay home and make music.
You can. I love to stay at home and do
you can as long as you're showing up and you
do something that you love. I really wish that everybody
could do that. And I always would say everybody deserves
to do what they love. But the deserve is a
strange word to say that you deserve. You don't deserve
it if you don't go get it. If you go
get it, then the deserving is going to meet you
and you're going to get it. There is no deserve.
You went and got it. You worked for it. Nobody
gave it to you. Somebody else would make excuses and say, well,
you were this, and you had this, and you had
that in your faith, in your favor going for you,
and man, listen them would just when we talk about demons,
getting demons out and what they are, those are demons
that tell you that it goes back to.
Speaker 1: That same mindset of wanting a quick fix and want
somebody to.
Speaker 2: Do it for you, ungodly belief.
Speaker 1: Everything you want is there you just have to get it.
You have to go get it, and you're that limitation
on yourself that somebody had a different circumstance, they had
better circumstances than me, they had more support than me, they.
Speaker 2: Had we done heard it all we could be and
we set them all. Yeah, that's how we know. There's
no opinion that we know this. We've seen it happen
and done too many times on both sides. Those beliefs
that enabled people and those beliefs that hindered and stop
people dead in their tracks. Because it's a voice that speaks.
It's a voice that tells you. It's been telling you
your whole life. Get back in line. When we used
to get out of line in school, we were cut up.
When it's like in even elementary and stuff and playing around,
get in line. You guys are not in line. Get
back in single fire line. And when you still hear
that voice, the moment you get out of line of
what is normal, of what everyone else is doing, what
your family's doing, you had to work through it, and
your family may have not even had said certain things,
but the voice in your head tells you these words
in the tone of your family, what they would say
or what they might say, and it puts your butt
in check so that you don't get out of line
because you don't want that teacher yelling at you. Derek,
get in line until you like, hold on, I'm forming
a new line. We made our own line of clothing.
You should check it out.
Speaker 1: And it's fun too, when you get back to that
place when you have manifested all this abundance and you're
doing what you love and then it starts to show
on paper and they're like, dang, I'm really proud of you.
You're doing really good here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, We've not seeing that too many.
Speaker 1: Times, like they didn't believe it was possible.
Speaker 2: You know, what does Derek do for a living? He
sells drugs? What how does he He's got a podcast.
You can't make it big with a poet, you know,
you know you can do anything with the podcast. You
know what you have to do, keep doing it, keep
showing up. You can't just do it. I tried a podcast,
Lane tried how many episodes you got consistency? I tried to,
you know, put meditations together and sell them, and how
many did you do? I tried to write. I wrote
a song, I put a song out nobody listen how
many songs you know? You get better at it the
further you go you do.
Speaker 1: None of it's easy mm hmm. I mean if if
they can only see, like how many settings we had
to go through on the cameras and the lights and
the moving this one degree this way, and like, it's
not easy. You have to want it and you have
to work for it.
Speaker 2: It's how bad do you want it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I want it bad? And then how many times
I still want to quit? Man, damn this podcast? Do
it tomorrow, you know, but it's how bad do you
want it? Nobody's going to do it for you. So
you know, paying attention to the voices that speak and
where they're speaking from, so that you can learn the
voice of the accuser and the voice of Christ. Because
the scriptures say that my voice, you hear my voice,
and my sheep follow me. A stranger's voice they will
not follow. So if it's the voice that's always beating
you up, putting you back in place, and not calling
you up higher and trying to encourage you, you know
quickly what the voices are that are speaking and uh,
and you can you can key in on the good one. Yeah,
you can key in on the good one and it
will lead you everywhere you need to be. And I
think that everything we've mentioned with the you know, fumigation
and frankinsense and all that kind of stuff, it all
helps because with your mindset, the way you feel, you know, longevity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that voice, the other voice, is not all bad.
Sometimes it encourages you to encourages you to do things
that you would think it's bad, but it always comes
from a place of trying to protect you or do
something good for you. Like well maybe not always, but
for instance, like the one that tells you don't try
to do that because you're going to fail. Like it's
coming from a place of trying to protect you. But
it's also a test that you have to rise above
and say, you know, thanks but no thanks, I've got it.
You can go rest, you can go sit down somewhere.
I don't need the animal voice right now. I need
to listen to the spirit voice.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's you know, the ego thing, and it's
good and bad. It's it always checks you. And you know,
we want to we want to call people higher, you know,
And we've been dealing with that a lot lately as
we're being called hire you know, and we're living our truth.
There was there was a comment on one of my
videos and somebody, you know, they keep it's a weird saying.
People don't like that term when people say your truth.
You know what I'm saying, Live your truth, live your truth,
like what you like. And they were like, they say,
there is no your truth, there's only the truth. This
is hype. And then the person I think, you know,
graciously wanted to know, they like, hey, what do you
mean when you say that? Because we know there's one
truth and it's Jesus, Like, what do you mean your truth?
And my truth is different than your truth or whatever?
What you mean? I mean it's your belief systems, because
it becomes true for you if it's true for nobody else.
The Bible says that whatsoever a man believeth in his heart,
so shally be so according to your belief, according to
your faith, it will be done unto you. So if
you believe it's possible that all things are possible to
him that believe, then they are don't matter if I
believe in it or not. That's your truth. Well I
think you should have you know, I think the judge
should have, you know, not pardoned you, I think, but
that's not the truth, and it's definitely not your truth
because he didn't do that. That's an opinion. And so
these opinions that people are giving about other people's beliefs
or other people's truths, that's their truth. That's not the truth.
So it's always like convenient for the person to say, like,
how convenient is it that your truth is always the truth?
That's why they pull your truth out because their truth
is the truth. So there is no their truth. Oh,
I just believe in the truth God. And so the
moment you just try to get clear on their truth,
you find out, Okay, those are beliefs and opinions that
isn't the truth.
Speaker 1: What goes back to that one person having all the
answers and every person who is unaware of the fact
that there is no one truth. It is your truth
that you're kind of making yourself God saying no, my
truth is the only truth. Like that's putting yourself in
the place of God. Because even when Christ came, he
asked more questions than he gave in Yeah, like we're
not supposed to have it all figured out. We're supposed
to be on a journey.
Speaker 2: It's your relationship with the truth. So yeah, Jesus is
the truth. It's absolute truth, Like if you follow it alone,
it'll stem from a place. The facetious thing is you
pretending you know it. You know it and all of
all of the routes and roads to that truth, right,
That's that's the pride of like. And I guess unless
you've been up several of them and made it back
down to the same starting point, you know, then you
don't know. I don't know what it is that you know. Obviously,
experience and grace and humility gets you there. But you know,
I can agree on like, there is truth, but beyond
that's just your perception and your relationship with the truth
of an aspect or an emanation anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Christ, like we already said, I mean, He's
in all and through all, and their truth is you
can only have a relationship with Christ if you pray
to the image of the white guy with the brown
hair and the little robe on. But then my truth
is I had an encounter with Christ in the deepest
parts of my being where he showed me that He
is in everything. The sun the plants, the air, the sky,
the mushrooms, the water, everything. He permeates everything, so I
can have a relationship with Christ through everything.
Speaker 2: And those people would say, no, you can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's your truth, that's not the truth.
Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, so that's where you That's how
quickly you learn. Just have a differing of opinion with
somebody who thinks that they have the truth.
Speaker 1: It's okay to say, you know, I salute you. That's
what you believe. I salute you. That's your truth. It's
okay to say that, like, don't demonize other people's truth.
Speaker 2: And it's okay for you to have your own absolutes
man like the things that are bringing you comfort and
bringing you like helping you, and make them absolutes in
your life as long as it's not hurting nobody or
hurting yourself.
Speaker 1: You'll know all things by the fruit. It's so easy
to tell, is the fruit that it bears in someone's life.
Speaker 2: But trust me, those absolutes are subjects or change. Yeah,
that's how you know there is no the truth. Moment
you call them an absolute, maybe maybe you shouldn't. I
don't want to encourage that you have things that you
hold in higher regard. Yeah, you know, I say I
know this, this is.
Speaker 1: Now because like I said, the.
Speaker 2: Next week, here you are singing a different song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the absolute thing that you absolutely totally believe can
you can be revealed to you on a deeper level later.
Like that was me in Christ. I always saw him
in the persona of a human until he came to
me and showed me otherwise. And now I have this deeper,
wider revelation of him. It doesn't negate the thing that
I believed before. It just increased my belief.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, shoot, almost everything has been that way
for me with studying. Most of those people who don't
study because this is what they say that a a
a wise person, a scientist, a philosopher will read hundreds
of books, thousands of books, and still know that they
don't know anything because the vastness of information and the
things they're into it, there's so much to learn every day.
And then some of these people were talking about will
read one book and claim to be experts and know
it all. You know, that's the difference here where you
know those who those who know don't speak, and those
who speak don't know. It's just how it is. I mean,
you know, but hey, let.
Speaker 1: Them talk so something else that people have always thought,
they know the truth on his UFOs for many years,
like everybody thought it was nuts and bolts, like a
metal a metal saucer, because that's kind of what most
of the imagery was. The government's coming out and saying
that they have you know that, yes it exists. Yes
it's a lot of times they'll say it's their own technology.
They were doing testings or trainings or whatever. And then
when you start looking for the UFOs, a lot of
times they don't look like metal nuts and bolts. They
look more like living beings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know how much of that is public.
I knew early on when the UFO stuff started to
be mainstream, when the China UFO, you know, the China
balloons and all that was they were cutting, the news
was covering. When the news is covering, you know something's
going on, they just gonna They're not gonna speak on
anything unless they can spend the narrative to the mass
of the population, you know, in a way that's going
to benefit them. Now, that's gonna benefit the people that
it's gonna benefit them. And so once they started talking
about it. We were like excited because we'd like been
into this for a minute, you know, had our own experiences.
We want, you know, a higher up to say something
they're not once you know that. But there was some
of these briefings that certain senators and stuff were a
part of, and they came out kind of like shocked,
and I knew, like I knew what was talked about
because the guy come out shocked and they're like, senator,
what you know, what can you tell us about the UFOs?
And one from like each you know, district or whatever,
and they're like, just make sure lock your doors, lock
your doors. That's what he said. The old man come
out saying lock you lock your doors. And he was hip,
So it's like hold on. They debriefed him on something
that's scared him and he doesn't maybe told him not
to talk about it or doesn't know how to talk
about it or what. But it it's all of the
nuts and bolts stuff started being mainstream. You know, the
footage from two thousand and four that they released of
the tic tac ufo. Yeah, you know, and all that's
you see how fast that things travels. Man, This stuff
that that we know exists out there. You could not
track it on a radar, right that one is it
like disappears up there? It is, we got it. It
went from here to here, like in soul respect, you
would not be able to the thing could like it
travels faster than light, than thought, and it's insane. Your
mind can't even comprehend how fast it travels, which is
what blows my mind away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you think about how fast a plane travels,
like super fast because it has to because it's so
heavy and to keep the velocity to keep it airborne,
it has to travel so fast. But when you see
one in the sky, it's going like really really slow
because of the distance in the perspective. So if you're
seeing something that's up that high or higher and it's
traveling so fast, you can barely track it. Like there's
no way to even measure how fast these things are going.
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's you know, the nuts and bolts saying
of how can a human or how can a physical
entity in Maybe there's ways, maybe there's a membrane around them,
you know, how they can travel, you know, because it's
not just one thing. That's what gets us into the
conversation of UFOs being demons because there's certain people who
it only can be one thing. So there's the truth
thing you want to know the truth about UFOs, Well,
they're demons. They're not space travelers because there's I have
cognitive dissionence that only lets me go up so far,
and it's I have a firmament that doesn't allow me
to get out. So now anything that you see, reader hear,
you're not you know you it has to be this
one way because your belief won't let you go any
further than that. So what in the news, Tucker Carlson,
you know, is talking to Joe Rogan and it's been
a couple of people have kind of let a few
things slip and slide out. Who are scientists and researchers
in those things and you know, notable people.
Speaker 1: He's a journalist, right, yeah, And.
Speaker 2: He said that he has you know, he thinks they're spiritual.
There's some of the things that they're doing. Again, how
they're traveling. How can something travel that fast? How can
something appear in two places at once? How can something
you know morph? And you know, all of these things
and feats that they're doing and all of these other
reasons that he has, and he's like, they're spiritual and
in his opinion they domonic in nature. Just whatever reasoning
that he has behind that or or whatever. But you
don't hear people talk about what we've been talking about,
that they what if they're angelic in nature, if they
can be ain't if they they could be demons, can't
they be angels?
Speaker 1: Well, if the war is not against flesh and blood,
it's in the heavenly realms, it's in the spirit realm,
who are they warring against. It's not all angelic that's
out there. There could be both. It could be angels
and demons out there.
Speaker 2: Right, And that's what you know when it comes to
the demon things. It's so weird because they think the
fallen angels, the fallen angels did something. You call them
fallen angels for a reason because they fell, They were
kicked out of the heavens, they were banned. Don't come
back here again until you learn your lesson. You're too wicked.
You cannot be up here trying to usurp authority, and
you can't be up here. So you are cast to
the earth as lightning to the earth. And so you
fell so fallen angels fell, they were kicked out of
the heavens. So when you see something flying around the heavens,
the what is it the word shamayim, which is the
heavens and Hebrew fallen angels fell out of the heavens,
So why are they flying around in the heavens? So
the Bible calls the sky the heavens. And when I
don't know why, it's the first thing. When people look
up and see something flying through the heavens, their mind
says demon. There's a demon flying in the heavens. And
there's maybe one scripture you know that says something like
that that Satan is the prince of the air, so
it sees the air and his princes are flying around
the air, and their mind defaults to demons. So what
about their mind defaulting to something good or just saying
what if? Yeah, they could be angels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my mind defaults to the good. I've only ever
felt that feeling that gets stirred up when I see
stuff like that. It's a good feeling, magical feeling. Yeah,
it's not as a fear or any kind of a like.
I know how I feel when I encountered the demonic
and it's not that feeling, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a different energy in the room.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, if you've ever been a part of a demonic
have you ever been a part of a watching the
Demonic movie on television, Yeah, you can go to.
Speaker 1: A family member's house dealing with demons and you leave
just feel you feel it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the atmosphere is charged with a different energy. And
then so that's how I knew too. I was scared
at first, sort of having my experiences with those things
in the air. My mind was I started researching this
from the Demonic. It's so funny. I've got I feel
like I got a one up as far as that goes,
because I've been on both sides, so that i can
have a contrast, right like literally with you know, spirituality
and witchcraft and stuff. We started in the dark side, right,
We started with Satanism and witchcraft, and we started with demons.
And two thousand we dedicated our life to Christ and
renounced all of that, and God showed us what's possible
with his kingdom, with the beauty, with the love, and
with the light. Far outweighs anything that you know's available
on the other side and in our studies with euthology.
I studied under all the Christian guys first, and howbeit
that all the Christian guys are all under the consensus that
their demons like hands down, hands down, and I had
to go outside of Christianity because they had a It's
like they had an agenda. They wouldn't even like consider
anything else because there was cognitive dissonance that that aliens
or UFOs were demons. There was no considering what if,
what if? What if? They wouldn't even have it. So
that's what led me to researchers such as Jordan Maxwell
or maybe David Ayke and Steven Greer, just people who
were having a broader conversation that I was locked out
of from Christianity, from Christendom, which allowed me to have
a bigger conversation. But still there was fear there for
me to go out and eventually want to pray under
the stars and make contact and ask God to show me, God,
do you have angels out there that are flying around
watching over us? Like are they traveling through the stars
or through portals in the heavens or like and if so,
can I see one? And it was the feeling I
was hesitant scared because you could get abducted, it could
be asking for a demon to come get you. That
was always in the back of my head. Probably somewhat
still is, just because that's how programming works. You don't
forget about those movies you watched. But then when you
ask in the Bible says that if you believe, you'll
receive anything you asked for in prayer.
Speaker 1: And God said, who among you if you ask your
father for bread, he would give you a stone.
Speaker 2: That's that's the scripture hung on. Yeah, because I had, like,
you know, remember Joey Amaker for what he told me.
He was like, hey man, because I'm I didn't have
nobody to talk to, and I said, hey man, I'm
going out like trying to make contact.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: He's like, hey man, be careful. He was doing that
was like wanting me of like demon stuff. And I
thought he would be one to say, you know, like
encourage it or whatever. He was like the Christian came
out of him and he didn't consider himself a Christian,
you know. He's like, hey man, be careful, could be
could be a demon. Man. You don't want to just
just use caution. And that's what people say when they
don't know, and they're scared too. But there's a reason
we're all scared, because somebody taught us to be. But
you know, when I started seeing them, the feeling of
awe and wonder and inspiration that is imparted by through
a sighting, by saying, are you up there? God? If
are the angels are up there? If the Malacheim, the Elohim,
if the ones who watch over us and protect us,
if they're whoever has our greatest good in mind? Father,
If they're up there, can I see them? And then
all of a sudden they light up and shoot across
the sky and do stuff like come on that. The
feeling that's imparted, the atmosphere is charged. It changes. You
feel like a little kid again. You feel like a
kid on Christmas morning.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What if you could feel like that every day?
Speaker 1: You know, Yes, you can, right, Yeah, it's awesome and.
Speaker 2: It was for me. It was you know, it's been
years now, going out a lot a lot of hours
in the darkness under the moon, looking into the sky,
looking for lights and stuff. And then I remember telling
you about it this years ago, telling you, and I
was kind of scared to tell you because it's silly,
like I'm seeing these things, you know, they come to
me or whatever. And we go outside and and I
raised my hands and I pray and I ask for
God to show us and to show you. And I
remember you saw like a little blink, or at least
you said you did. Yeah, like, oh, I think I
saw one. It was just like the little spot, you know,
the little out the corner of your eye. You see
one light up. You're like, oh, I saw one as
soon as you as soon as you prayed. And I
was like, okay, it was like just enough for the time.
But it was years ago. But then recently after your
you know, double dip in the awakening and going deeper.
We were just laying in the backyard on a cool,
cool December January night something like that. I think it's January.
You want to you want to share that like from
your it was awesome.
Speaker 1: So we were we were really just like blissed out.
I was still super high on the Holy Spirit from
my transformation, my healing, and I still am. But like
we were just laying out in the cool in the dark,
looking at the stars, and I think we were talking
about experiences and seeing stuff and I was like, well,
let's just try to manifest one now, let's see if
we can make it happen. And so we stirred up
our emotion. We were so grateful and showing gratitude and
just prayed to God that if our angels and our
helpers are up there, if he would allow us to
see them, we would be totally grateful. And if not,
we're still totally grateful. Like just staying in that mindset
of gratitude. And you know, I don't need it. I
don't need a sign to believe, but it would be
really cool if you could show us if they're up there.
And we just started praying and kind of praying.
Speaker 2: In tongues, and we picked where we wanted to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we picked where we wanted it, and we picked near,
which is a star in the Orion constellation. And so
we just started focusing our minds and our eyes towards
that area and praying and staying in that attitude of gratitude.
And right above the star that we named and picked
out two bright lights, they just it powered up out
of nowhere and they were together together, right beside each other.
They powered up, they traveled down to regale the star
that we named and they faded away. Like it wasn't
like a shooting star. I don't know how to describe
it other than the way I just did, but that
it was an incredible manifestation that we just we prayed
and opened our hearts and it happened. We saw it.
It was and we were there together. So that was
cool too that it was not like, oh, I think
I'm making things up, I think I'm going crazy, because
we both saw the exact same thing happened at the
exact same time, and it was just an incredible experience
that we shared and really uplifting and increase the gratitude,
increase the feelings of pleasantness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was No, that was a cool experience.
And it was cool because like that was like one
of the first big ones that I had was years
ago driving the truck and I would try to hurry
up and get my truck loaded for work early and
leave the warehouse. Like I think one day I left
the warehouse at like three thirty am and then it
thinks about an hour to get to Pensacola when I
was going east, and so I stopped at the there's
a there's a hill right there in Milton, right over
the water with this gas station and you can overlook
the lake there and stuff, and it's dark. There wasn't
open yet, so I'd get there and there was nobody there,
and I'm just out and there's something about it with
the cool the coolness of the of the day or
the coolness of the night that is hads just extra layer,
you know, of just awesomeness. And the wind was blowing,
it was cool, and I was just looking up and
praying and naming all the constellations that I that I knew,
because I'm like trying to learn the stars and the
planets and constellations. Still am but I look at Ryan.
It's beetlejuice. There's Mars. There's Vega, there's the Pleiades. There's that,
you know, and there's little things that I know. And
I'm just worshiping God, like talking to God. I had
just wrote the song Awesome God, me and Anthony Cummins,
and I was singing it, singing it to the Lord
as I'm naming it. My God is in Awesome God.
Speaker 1: WHOA.
Speaker 2: I'm just You're in not some God we lift you up.
You're in some God we lift you We lift you up,
and I'm just looking on wonder like a little kid
expecting to see and then I look up at Orion
and then I look away, and Orion was like directly
above my head, and I look at it, I look away,
and then I see Orion here. I was like, hold on,
it's like two Orion's in the sky. What the heck.
And as soon as in my mind said hold on,
wait a minute, what the heck, I turned and I
looked back at the other Orion, and one was Orion
and one wasn't. One had two other stars like lined
up with Orion's belt, but just below it, so they
were on both sides of Regal, and they were like stationary.
I said, that's not Orion, because that is And all
of a sudden, they lit up even brighter the moment
I gave the acknowledgement, like hey something, it got really
big bright, powered up, and then just took off, flying
real slow into Orion, kind of zagging just a little
little bit, and I'm like, oh my god, what the
what the heck? This is amazing. I'm trying to like
fumble for my phone, I'm trying to film it, and
then I'm looking away and then it's gone. As soon
as it starts, it's over, you know. But I thought
it was so cool because that was like one of
my first like really awesome encounters. And then how it
was like the same space and it was two lights
that were positioned with regal or rig l or whatever
that that star and how because I think I had
I think I mentioned to you about it, like it's
something about like the you like, we get to charge
the atmosphere with these stories. So maybe people listening right
now they're like, you know, some people are they may
be skeptic and like, oh he's lying, man, it could
have been this cool. But other people are like, oh man,
I want to see that. I want to see that.
That'd be amazing or or they or they have seen
it or something similar. So it's light in a different fire.
So the atmosphere like in them and around them is
being charged by hearing a story and reliving it or
hearing it for the first time and building expectation and stuff.
So we were doing that as I was like sharing
with you, like I remember my first time, my first
looking up at the star, and you're like, let's try
to do it again. Yeah, And I was like Okay,
where do you want to focus? Because there was other
stars that even call out to us and stuff. It's different.
You know your zodiac sign, you know, you know, why
don't we look there? Because maybe that's where you should look.
If that's where you're from, maybe you should look. But
it was you said, let's focus here, and we did,
and we asked from that place, and it flew in.
Speaker 1: It was incredible, and I might not believe it if
I didn't experience it. I know, Yeah, it's hard to believe.
Speaker 2: You probably shouldn't do. All of this stuff's hard to believe.
And and even you know seeing it, seeing isn't even
believing because you're because you want to. You want to
go through and say, okay, what could what could have
that been? You want to count out like everything first.
I always say that as a skeptic. I'm a skeptic,
but I've got all the stories. Isn't that funny? It's like, okay,
it's everything, it's everything, a UFO. I'm trying to I'm
trying to disprove myself so that I know that what
I'm encountering is legit. It's not my truth, my truth
because we because you could totally apply it. Yeah, you
can apply my truth. I saw UFO. That was a satellite, Dude,
that was starlink. It was Starlink. Nope, it was the UFO. God,
you know. So that's how your truth works. But I
want to I want to. I want to be sure
because I don't want to be out here, you know,
signaling satellites and thinking I had a you know, an
encounter or saw the real thing. And if I think,
if you keep that hard work, that you are a
skeptic just because you want to encounter or you want
to know for sure that you're invited into the real
because you get past this layer of fake because you're like, oh,
I didn't see it, I'm gone. We'll only be down here
thirty minutes. What do you mean you're gone?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I thought you really wanted to see it.
Speaker 1: Goes back to you don't want it bad enough.
Speaker 2: I do want to see it, but I got it.
I need to go to bed. You don't want to see.
We're not from the same place like I'm from the
place where we grew up. We knew crackheads. What were
they willing to do to get the thing they wanted? Yeah,
they're the all night adventure trying to score drugs, like
hold on, I'm on an all night adventure trying to
say hello to the lights in the sky. How bad
do you want it? You don't want it bad enough? Yep,
that's a crazy analogy, but it fits like who like,
who's hungry for the thing? How bad do you want it?
You don't want it? Yeah, they want it. I wanted
I wanted it, and I still want it because just
as much as I stayed out there, you know, at
in the night finding anomalies and things, we started going
out there seeing stuff in the day. So now we're
just that whole thing I was locked out of in
my mind that you can see them. You can only
see them at night because the lights you see them
travel as lights.
Speaker 1: That was your truth?
Speaker 2: Was it the truth? Nope, there's my truth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was valid.
Speaker 2: Don't There wasn't anywhere else that I could go. I
couldn't even go to the Bible and get that truth
because my mind wasn't open to it. I had a
firmament that kept me from going beyond night time craft.
So you can't see this stuff at during the day
until till you do you can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what unlocked it for you where you were
able to see things during the day, Like what changed
for you?
Speaker 2: I mean I had seen them during the day over
the years eventually, but it was a little bit more.
I felt like it was rare. So oh, I've had
my first day time. So I have had experiences just
driving the truck and gazing into the sky and stuff
during the day. But what really changed it was like
how dominant they are or how prevalent they are. Being
able to see them, you know, during the day was
the experience that had I know, it's been two years
ago now, when we were pumping gas at the gas
station and I just happened to be pumping gas and
we're parked under the awning and the sun was hid
like just barely because of the awning, and maybe I
hit it just a little bit to keep the sun
from reflecting on it as I'm pumping gas on a
warm day, and as I look up at the sun
because I'm always looking like I always got one eye
looking at the sky, and I saw I saw like
the shooting like UFO, like same things you said at night,
just real fast. But during the day, Oh wow, there
was one. Wow, that's cool. It's awesome, Thank you Lord.
I'm just kind of still looking. And then another one.
Oh two, Wow, you know when you see two, maybe
there's three. And so I stick my head out and look.
And then I started seeing them like everywhere and like
flying all around the sun like this crazy anomaly. And
started seeing them everywhere and different kinds and traveling at
different speeds and stuff. And I'm like, oh my god,
I saw yelling at you. I was like aaric, come
see come here, used in the passenger see. I was like, cold,
see these UFOs. And you came came out and you
looked and you looked up and you saw something and
saw all kind of weird things bugs whatever they are.
Speaker 1: I call them whispys now. But I couldn't see past
them then, like I only saw Yeah, it looked like
dust or like little dandelion fluffs or something coming off
the roof of the gas station or a little higher
like they were lower down, but there were lots of them. Yeah,
I don't know. I couldn't look past them. I was like,
are you talking about that? Are you talking about the
the puffs like the dust stuff? You're like no, no,
look higher. And I never could see them that day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was like the first time and we
saw that and I'm like, what is it? And then
we ended up going home. I spent the rest of
the day ye filming and getting binoculars and just seeing
how I can see them and see what they were,
and like there were stuff parked like right next to
the sun so hard to see, like you had to
be able to hide the sun to be able to
see next to the sun without the corona of the
sun damaging your eyes with binoculars or just being able
to see it. And so filming it into going back
dissecting the footage and slowing it down and then having
my mind blowing, like what the heck like for me?
That day was so you know monumental that I thought
it was gonna be all over the news, Like I
thought all over there was gonna be people reporting on
this these you know UFOs or whatever, something major, and
then nothing nothing about it. So you know, I started
getting stuff like on camera and then being able to
see other kind of anomalies as you you know, turned
the different gradients and the gamma down on the camera
and how it revealed other things that were traveling and
stationary and all kinds of stuff going on that if
you would look at it differently, if you would look
deeper or or you could see into the light, you
could see more. So that's what changed it for me,
you know, of being like every day because the next
day I'm like going out. Eventually I just had too
much footage. But it's then experimenting with how do you
get better footage? And you know, so now we have
a I'm working on a course on how to how
to do this. That's it's almost done. Yeah, it's almost done.
I just need to finish it up. I'm just I'm
paying attention to too many details to finish it up,
and I just need to go ahead and put it
out as it is and then maybe add to it
because I've got like a step by step process on
how to film, how to use your cell phone, and
then how to put it into the computer editing programs,
and then what do you do once you get in there?
And that's one of the things where we're talking about
how fast these things travel. It's mind blowing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you'll see like a bigger blob, like
a dark blob, come and eat the ones that you're watching,
and like there's so much crazy stuff you can see
if you just follow. Like your little tutorial is so
helpful because like you know all about computers and I
know a little bit, but I wouldn't know enough to
how to do that with somebody helping me.
Speaker 2: And it's hard for me because I had to, like,
you know, it's hard for me to dumb all of
this down, you know. And uh it's like, you know,
plug your USB into the into the computer. Now go
through this folder and drag. But it's really just documenting,
like just slow down. Some people don't exactly it has
to be done, yeah, and it's a disservice not to
do it. But I mean, ever since like uploading those
first videos, the response has been insane. The response has
been amazing. Yeah, Like people who following my work and
stuff are like they're going out doing it. Yeah, and
they're just some of the funny video that like their
commentary is funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, oh shit, I see him, man, you were right,
was right on camera. I'm like I need to save
this because this is a great promo for the course.
You were right. Man. I see them and it's like
getting them on camera and stuff, and then like you know,
positioning people in different places and other people with different
cameras and different frame rates. So now when the government's
releasing their UFO nuts and bolts, yes they're nuts and bolts.
Speaker 1: No, you see.
Speaker 2: It's too prevalent, and it's too prevalent to have to
fake anything. Yeah, too, just so much real out there
and just go in as a skeptic, like go in
as like thinking that that it could be dust or bugs,
you know, until you see like something that does something
that a dust particle nor a bug does, and write
it off because that's how we get to the truth.
That's the process of elimination that you saw an angel,
You saw the b that hold this space time continuum together.
They're working while you sleep so that you can breathe
clean air. Like we don't know the implications of all
of it to think that, you know, any of us
have it all figured out. We're only privy to so much.
And there's a lot of things going on, and the
government does have their hand in on a bunch of
the stuff, especially hiding it, oh yeah, especially covering it up.
It's like clockwork almost like a profit can go out
and say in ten minutes, the sky will be dark
and then like clockwork.
Speaker 1: All of them even the day the we we like
went out that night and we manifested and showed gratitude
and saw those two angels. I think they're for sure
angels for sure. Right after that, like three or four
like planes and helicopters, they all were coming out of
the woodwork. I remember that because we've been in not
long after that, because it was absurd how many helicopters
and planes came out right after that happened.
Speaker 2: Now we've had encounters with the helicopters and crazy stuff
like I. You know, they try to cover it up
and a lot of times they talk about black helicopters
shown up to do like you know, to intimidate people.
But you know my story, not many people do. But
I had, you know, we were camping, me and two
friends who we went out to camp to make contact,
to go out and make contact, and we documented the
whole thing. And we had a friend there who had
never seen and he wanted to And so we go
camping close to the Indian land and at More, Alabama,
and went with intention and fasting and stuff. And then
we're playing music, playing Jimbei and guitar and singing and
just like meditating, doing all just trying to connect. We
don't know how to connect. We're just trying and praying
and stuff. And then all of a sudden, within like
an hour, I think I forgot how many we counted,
but I think it was like twenty four or something
that we saw just like all like going the same
direction for like an hour straight, just this amazing sighting
for an hour straight, and then it was cut off
no more after that, And we woke up the next
morning while camping to a helicopter hovering directly above us
right after sunrise, and it was down low to the ground,
something out of a movie where like the you could
feel the wind from the propellers in our tent was
like blowing, and there was a bar going across the
front and the guy was spraying stuff on us. He
was spraying like chemical on us, laughing, and we were
looking at him, like, hey, what's going on?
Speaker 1: What the hell?
Speaker 2: Man? He's like laughing at us and spraying us with
chemical We're like, what the hell is going on. We're like,
you could smell it in the air, it's like chemicals.
What the So We're like, man, we hurt and get
our stuff and get it in the car without trying
to breathe it as much as we could, fast as
we could, just to roll our stuff up and jump
in the car and take off. And the guy was
going back and forth like from us, and he'd go
to another spot and like dump out a bunch of
fluid and then he'd come back to us and turn
the bar on and circle right above us and spray us. Like,
what the hell is this? So I don't know what
connection you mind? Just wanders I can't say for sure. Yeah,
they knew that we were summoning UFOs and we opened
the portal and they wanted to see who did I'd
have no idea what was going on. Some crazy person
who works for the county and sprays you know, duster over. Well,
this was a campsite. It was very strange. But uh yeah,
a lot of people talk about intimidation and stuff like
that that happens. I know, what's his name, Christopher, the
UFO of God guy. He talks about them showing up
and so many more people, James Gill and anybody who's
like gone out and be able to do the spiritual
work to where like you you start attracting them, and
like we talk about like portals opening up in the
sky and stuff like that, But what if you are
the portal and what if you are the one who
believes it just enough and ask for help and want
to know that our angels are out there, that we're
gonna be okay, you know those kind of things, And
then they start popping in because you called upon them
and you asked them. And I can give you many
Bible scriptures and stories about how you know they are there.
You just can't see them until you can until they
want you to see them, or they allow you to
see because you want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember the day I was able to see
the ones in the daytime, like you were talking about.
Was at work at the barn, and it was about
the eleven o'clock hour and we have a ramp where people,
the patients go up to mount the horse. It's a
ramp so they can be up higher because they're little
kids and they can get on the horse. But I
was sitting on the ramp and I was having my lunch.
I was just looking at the sky and we have
that awning that like you said, the awning just barely
blocked the sun, and I started seeing them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now all the dust and the whispy stuff was there too,
but I could see I could see up high like day,
I could see up high by the sun. I was like, oh,
that's weird. And then like you said, it was one, two, three,
And then I started seeing shapes that looked like a
bird flapping its wings. Yeah, right up by the sun,
but way up high, coming out from the sun. And
I was like, holy crap. And I was sitting next
to a co worker. I was like, do you see this?
Are you seeing this right now? And like what what?
And I kind of said, the block the sun and
look and see if you see it. They're like, yeah,
what is that? And then everyone else came and started looking.
And I think there were two people that couldn't see it,
but everyone else could. And they started like googling on
their phones news stories.
Speaker 2: And same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing, a big anomaly. And one lady was like, well,
maybe it's space garbage, just like I don't think that's
space garbage.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I've been you know, scouring the internet
over the years. I've seen some there are convincing videos
out that have been out for a long time, and
even when the you know, the cameras weren't as good
that you know, you could see you know, shots from
space or at least higher altitude. Because I know my
Space friends are tuning out there is no space. Somebody
just punched their their their phone, I think, or there
there's no space. I told you, God, you're so stupid.
Space is real. I don't know. Space is pretty cool,
I guess. But I've seen footage up there from NASA
leaked footage that's like you're not supposed to see and
and so you kind of know what to expect when
looking and uh and then and then back in the
day too that I ran across videos of people telling
you how to block the sun and see like I
heard about this in like two thousand and seven or whatever,
two thousand and eight, and but I've tried it. I
remember trying it too, but nothing. I don't see anything.
I don't know where to look. And he's like, you
just want to block I almost thought he was trolling,
Like the videos is like this is troll or a
crazy person? Yeah you know, right, you know, yeah, because
some comments do say dust right there, there are those
are bugs and maybe there are there but I would say,
I've got a little blog I was working on about
what is dust because I'm saying that's just dust. There's
no just what is just dust? Because whatever dust is,
serpents eat was cursed to eat that. Whoever the serpent
is of the Bible, he was cursed that he would
eat dust. He was cursed that he would go onto
his belly and dust would be his food and he
would eat it. So there's no just Okay, what is
he eating? And so what is dust? So it's a
deeper conversation there when you know, I've got a whole
thing on it. When NASA shared some UFO stuff or
some like anomalies close to the sun and called it
dust or space dust or whatever, Yeah, and it's like
they didn't lie to you. So just so you know,
they didn't lie to you, you just don't know what
dust is.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, sharing it, you know, you get the skeptics.
They're going to come out the woodworks.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw some people come in and we were
looking preparing for this, and I was looking through YouTube
and somebody had said, you say, all the time, you
have all this footage and all this stuff stored up
and all these videos and you see them every day,
and how come you haven't shared it? How come we're
not seeing it? How come you can't prove it? And
it's like we're not just putting it out there Pearls
before Swin all over Facebook, and because too, like it
is Pearls before Swin, people will get on there and
say that's just dust, or that's this, or that you
edited it. You're making this up, like, well, it's not
going to be real to you unless it is.
Speaker 2: I know. So that's the thing you can't. Yeah, it's
not to put it out there. And I think God
honors that is the fact that you're not putting out
there to try to convince somebody because or look at me.
Speaker 1: I'm so like spiritual, I can summon no.
Speaker 2: Because I've angels showed people immediately that they can. They're
ain't like I want them to do it because they
have They're connected.
Speaker 1: To different angels exactly.
Speaker 2: They're connected to different angels and we come together, you know,
and then now we're walking with one hundred and forty four.
You know from each tribe. They have different reasons, different functions,
but you know, you you do get those those comments
or whatever but those are nothing. The comments, those comments
help the algorithms. The amazing comments and why I release
them released that footage is the ones that are like
people are like, oh my god, I'm in tears right
now watching this footage, and the awe and wonder that
it's like imparted to us, you know, while we're having
the sighting and we just so happened to be able
to film something or whatever. People can feel it translates
sometimes and like the Marcaba video got over five hundred
and fifty thousand views on YouTube. Of yeah, they're skeptics,
but they helped the algorithms for the real people who
needed to see it to see it, the people who
know that they're real blessed. Blessed are they that believe
and have not seen so then because you believe, God
honors your truth, and your truth comes reality and you
get to see the things that you know are out there.
You know they're there. I've never seen an angel. It
blows my mind. Being a podcast host over the years
interviewing people about everything, UFOs, aliens who write books on it,
researchers all of that, paranormal people who investigate, they write
books on it, and the sheer amount of number of
these people who have not seen or encountered a UFO,
who are experts, but they've not seen one, and experts
on the paranormal we've not seen a ghost or seen
a spirit or any of that stuff, and who speak
on this stuff as experts. It blows my mind. But
for the people who believe and could go out there
and have encounters, anybody can go out Like even the
interview we just did, the interview I did with the
Raelian dude, and like at the end, I was like,
so have you had any encore? Yeah, do they talk
to you, sir? No, No, I've never had one. They
he said, they only talked to Rayal. Only get your
only self off of my podcast, sir. That's one of
the things I said. I didn't want to interview people
who were like Messiah. We talked about Messiah complex. Sir.
You was not supposed to drink the kool aid. You
weren't supposed to drink You don't drunk all the kool aid.
Now you are the Messiah, you know. But I saved
I remember saving myself, like one time, whether I was
supposed to interview this lady and then come to find out.
She was like, I'm the only one who can do
all of these things. I'm okay, I'm glad they got canceled.
I'm like, I'm glad that got canceled because I don't
want to talk to those people. Yeah, And I think
the reality and like I could, I could, I can
get down with it. If they're teaching everybody like how
to connect, well, you guys are speaking on this and
this is your life and you've never had it blows
your way because how it is accessible, Like all of.
Speaker 1: This is I mean, what are these people going to
do when Rayel dies? Do they think he's not going
to die? Probably because he's what like eighty now he
was born in the forties, Yeah, I remember that from
the podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty six. Yeah. I think they tried to, like,
I think he was drawn to the conclusion that he
was born the year that Israel became a nation. I
didn't hear him say that, but he emphasized, you know,
he said, the Messiah is right.
Speaker 1: L It's right, l Oh, I got it.
Speaker 2: You know. Anyway, this is if you don't know what
we're talking about, go watch the last episode. That's a
great segue for you to go listen. I interviewed, you know,
one of the bishops or rabbis of the UFO called
the Raelians.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he got me on it as a surprise,
like he interviewed the guy and I didn't see the interviewer,
so I kind of reacted to it a little bit. Yeah,
a little bit wild stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go go watch it. But anyway, we just wanted
to talk about uthology, angels and demons because it's always
been a part of the conversation. Well, no, no, no, no,
the demon part has been a part of the conversation
and still is. It's the it's the sensationalism. We can
get clicks, It can get clicks, like real easy with
the demons, the angels, Like it's got to be them
that like allow you to get the clicks or something.
I don't know. Yeah, but it's something about the fear stuff,
you know. It's why a lot you won't hear a
lot of the good stuff from any of the pastors.
They if they knew it was angels, they wouldn't even
speak on it. If they know it's demons, and they
gotta warn people. I don't know. I think that's the monic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the angels will allow you to see
based on your intention, of your heart and the position
of hard to No, I do because there have been
times we tried to summon them for other people and
it didn't work. And it's like, I know my heart
was right, but yeah, you don't know about all the
people they might be theirs until later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not supposed to see. It's very strange. But again,
all of the comments that when we are able to
film and share stuff, and again I will say it again,
I've got tons of footage and the goal was to
have this course already out and to roll it out
that you see the footage and then you want to
check out the course because everybody's dming me how do
you film it? How do I do it? And they're
sending me their footage and they got some great stuff.
But I don't want to teach people how to do
it and also give something to our members, you know,
who are part of the community, you know, for a
walkthrough on how to do it. And so that's why
I was kind of holding off on just releasing footage. Yeah,
because I got so so much. But again the comments
that you know, the people that are in tear I
guesse if it's one or two you got two comments
where these ladies were touched deeply or no, no, no,
there's a lot with that start off. I'm in tears
right now. Oh my God, I feel the Holy Spirit
while you're speaking. Oh my, you know, and they're really
like God is using this pretty crappy cell phone footage,
you know. Yeah, And because it's deeper than that, it
is it's when the outside reflects the inside. Yeah, because
you know deep down within you that that we have
friends in high places and that we all are connected.
And then when you see it, when what's outside of
you bears witness, what is inside of you connects with
your faith that the the feelings that are birth within
you are godly, amazing, beautiful, It.
Speaker 1: Bears beautiful fruit. A lot of people. Of those people
even that said they'd never encountered an angel, they probably
have it, probably just didn't recognize it.
Speaker 2: And that's what we really want to show. That's what
we really want to teach, because they're all out there
and uh, and there's levels to it, but you won't
and you don't really get access until you honor all
the angels and learn to honor you know their message
because the word angel just means a messenger, a ma loch,
a messenger, and they bring messages there. There are their presence,
their job title, what they do. All of that tells you.
Who tells you their name, because you'll be able to
find their name based on what they do. It's in
their DNA. And once you're able to honor all the
messengers from every realm, whether they are here in the
physical or are they are etheric and have become light
and they're and they're brighter than the sun that's out there,
like our light. That's why most of us can't see
them until our eyes are able to behold and take
in much light or you learn, you learn how to
see them. So it's because people ask, you know, like
remember somebody said, do you do y'all ever go out
and pray anymore without the camera, just because we were
like talking about it so much, like and uh it's
like yeah, like just as much, you know, And it
was a thing where like it had we had to
be like allowed to do it. Oh yeah, because the moment,
like you said, you pull out a cell phone. There's
nothing I felt for the longest time, I wouldn't do
it because it's so special to me. And I remembered
of me having my first encounter and fumbling with the
phone to hurry up and film it, and then the
experience is over and you missed it because you wanted
to well. I used to say kiss and tell, like, oh,
y'all want to show everybody, No, this is your encounter.
Instead of you listening to the information and move into
the heart space, you run to go grab a cell phone.
So I made sure that the years you know of
this work was done without that. And it's just recent
that we can pull our phones and just ask for
a sighting or start praying and you'll find out one
thing about the bugs and stuff like that and or
what it is. Go out there and those of you
who are connected in the spirit and film and then
start praying while you're filming, and I guarantee you'll see
an increase. You'll see different types of beings and craft
start showing up and coming on camera, and then all
it they'll start moving faster. It is insane.
Speaker 1: Leaves will start blowing in a circle and coming down.
Speaker 2: The birds start acting crazy. Yeah, that's one of the
weirdest things to the birds. Because we pay attention to
the birds and their activity and them flying back and
forth when we're connecting and showing us word a look.
It is insane. It is a world that you have
to be introduced in to and and step into. Really
like it's an initiation that we're all like in that school,
but we're all in different phases. Once you can see
God and see Jesus, like we've been talking about since
the beginning with fumigation and the angelic, you're not allowed
to see them, you know, in the physical or in
the sky if you're if you've been disrespecting the homeless
dude that's an angel who's been at the same corner
for the past seven years, that you won't give them
five dollars to get a beer because you're like, he's
just gonna buy a beer with it. It's cool, that's
the same thing you were going to buy it with it.
Let him have it. Yeah, you know why you're judging
this guy. Like, start honoring people, and start honoring the
animals and start honoring everything, and then you're initiated and
grafted into a world within a world that is mind
blowing every day.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. They all have their their order to their
divine order and the nymphs and they.
Speaker 2: Have different names. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean it's in fairies and angels and all them that
take care of the animals. I mean there's reasons that
they don't worry about anything because they know they're superiors
have got them. The nature spirits are going to take
care of them and make sure they have seed to
eat and a place to nest. And yeah, if they
can get it, we got to learn from them and
learn that our superiors have got us, that it's abundance
that you don't have to worry.
Speaker 2: It really helped me with you know, conspiracies and into
the world. And they're like, watch the animals. What are
the animals doing? Because they'll film the animals like going
in circles and stuff. The animals are getting in tune
with the energy. Ye, so that y'all can't take their energy.
They're building because like because I watched the animals and
the birds ain't freaking out. The birds are still on
Like if they're not freaking out, I don't want to
freak out. Jesus is like listen, look at the look
at the lilies, look at the birds. Ask them what
do they say? And they can teach you and impart
a lot on what the freak out about and what
not to enless genealogies and fables and those things like
and and maybe people think some of the stuff is
that until you experience it, Like you mentioned nyphs and
fairies or whatever, that's a that's a myth and a fable.
Until they've encountered God or the Angelic in the form
of tiny lights that come out of the top of
trees and look like fairies and come down and go
back into it. It's all fake and it's all imagination
until it's not the nyphs, until you read read the
scriptures and you read that there's a town called Nyphis
or whatever, and you're like, what does that word mean?
And you look it up and you're like, old, well,
maybe nyphs are real. And you let that sink in
from your head down to your heart. I would love
it if nyphs are real, would you. I've got a
couple of shrubberies I would like you to push to
the side, and there's a nip hiding in this shrubbery.
It's really goose.
Speaker 1: Goose eats the shrubbery so we can find the nymphs.
Speaker 2: Right, No, it's a yeah, it's fun. Yeah, every everything,
everything exists. Everything is this if it didn't exist the
moment you think.
Speaker 3: It it existed, I think that that's that's how powerful
we are and we don't know it, and we just
like hope that we get to see or whatever versus
like you go out there, you believe it, you speak.
Speaker 2: It, and then it I don't know. I don't know
the science, but it's fun experiencing the spirituality behind it
because they do go hand in hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so hard to like, you know, have your
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Speaker 1: For so long and on zoom.
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It that's where that's where these retreats really are amazing.
I love being a part of it, being able to
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that what we're doing. I hope you guys enjoyed these stories.
I hope your faith is built and I hope that
you're walking in honor. And if you are, man maybe
comment some of your stories below. I love to hear
people's like experiences, whether they came from this, you know,
this podcast, which there's so many because it like bursts
something in them. They're like, oh wow, I can try that,
and then they do it, and now they're like excelling
past our experiences because that's their thing, you know, or
stuff you've had in the past. Like, we get so
many messages, but I love I love hearing them, so
make sure you post those in the comments below let
us know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And if this like really stirred up emotion in you,
and it stirred up your faith and your your gratitude
and your desire, go out, go out and ask Go
out right now, if you're able and block the sun
with just the edge of a building or a poll
or something, just block the sun and look and see
what you see. And if it's nighttime, go out and
look at the sky, pray ask God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's so prevalent that you don't even have
to do any of that. It's everywhere you look, and
it's wherever the sun, it's wherever light is or you know,
and the light is within you. So whatever you see
outside of you, and it's telepathic communication stuff. It continues
after a sighting, So it's not just about seeing, it's
about like what is the transformation, Like what is the encounter.
That's how you know you're in relationship because you saw them,
but then you really see them when you get the message.
Because angels aren't just they don't just exist for you
to see them. There is impartation by seeing seeing them.
That's why you don't need to see them. Many people
don't need to or they can't their eyes are callous.
The majority of us we're learning to see. We're becoming lighter,
we're getting more light in us, and we're tapping into
what people call the fourth dimension. The veil is coming down.
We know that with the evil we've been seeing that
that's low hanging fruit. How about the good that's happening
in the fourth dimension. That's where we come in. So yeah,
there's podcasts everywhere about ufoses, demons and blah blah blah blah. Okay,
what about the angels? What about the fairies?
Speaker 1: And I want their messages?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So yeah, with that, we're gonna say peace and shalom.
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This is what we do with our folks. Folks all around,
all around the world. You can't say you can't say around.
We got folks all around the globe. I can't say
that because the Earth is not round. It is flat,
and it's not a globe. It's a flat earth with
a dome. I learned one day. That's not Listen, hey,
debate me. What's that I got to do with the
price of rice in China? For some people it does.
It's stair awakening. Yeah, it is their UFOs or deems.
It's stair awakening to the UFOs or demons. Flat Earth. Listen,
interdimensional doesn't mean demon how about that. There you go,
You're ready to have that conversation tomorrow. I'm the truth
to the podcast, shallow on everybody,