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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to our live Halloween episode for twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, Live this time with mister Daniel Sibner, who's
Speaker 2: always in the chat. So this time you all have
Speaker 2: to comment extra to make up for his lack of
Speaker 2: jokes and ad libs because he will be doing it
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 3: Hey Dan, how are we doing? I am a leash,
Speaker 3: I'm invincible, I'm I'm good. You know I'm here. And
Speaker 3: I feel bad because someone in the chat just said
Speaker 3: they were into madlods and I was like, damn, I
Speaker 3: should have done a Halloween madlob.
Speaker 2: Well, somebody else is requesting a Frank Tarzi impression.
Speaker 3: Let's hear that.
Speaker 2: What does Frank Tarzi wish for everybody to feel on Halloween?
Speaker 3: Putting me on the spot?
Speaker 2: Oh, I am you know?
Speaker 3: I mean, like we put out these movies, you guys
Speaker 3: all want the uh like the female Nazi, but like
Speaker 3: you don't buy it. You know, we're not gonna, you know,
Speaker 3: just put a slip cover on it and it. I mean,
Speaker 3: if I could put any movie out, there's uh, there's
Speaker 3: the Train. I love that movie. Everyone knows that, you know,
Speaker 3: some Chuck Norris movie. I remember seeing that in Times
Speaker 3: Square when I was twelve. Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Baren wore the same shirt today. I love this shirt.
Speaker 2: It's a special one.
Speaker 3: Every now and again, Frank Charsi will come at or
Speaker 3: something like that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: If we talked about Keene or I should say, when
Speaker 2: we talk about Keen, we can get some some Charsi
Speaker 2: impression back again, exactly. How's how's the week leading up
Speaker 2: to Thanksgiving? In New York City?
Speaker 3: The week leading up to Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: That's not what I meant. I was reading a comment
Speaker 2: and it made me think, how about Halloween?
Speaker 3: What the fuck are you talking about.
Speaker 2: Doing five things at once? I'm sorry, I'm.
Speaker 3: The only thing you should be doing. No jokes, I'm
Speaker 3: just saying.
Speaker 2: Are we doing phrasing or other more of the things?
Speaker 3: Anyway? Halloween? I mean here, my block goes goes all
Speaker 3: out on Halloween, so we have like every building puts
Speaker 3: up these extravagant Halloween decorations and then tomorrow night they're
Speaker 3: gonna block off two of the avenues and so the
Speaker 3: families can just go up and down from Broadway all
Speaker 3: the way to West End Avenue and just do trick
Speaker 3: or treating in each of the buildings, right, And it's
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. And my building blasts thriller every
Speaker 3: single year. I think my building is actually one that
Speaker 3: organizes it. So it's like the I'm glad Ronnie caught it.
Speaker 3: If anyone's gonna catch you.
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna highlight it, but it's it's pretty hilarious.
Speaker 3: Uh well, I haven't worked on that that. I gotta
Speaker 3: get my big my big glasses, my big frames or something.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I first of all, I didn't realize
Speaker 2: this is already like the fifth time you've been on
Speaker 2: here for reconnecting.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, until I thought I in this year, I
Speaker 3: was like, no, it's my third.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's maybe the sixth. It's pretty exciting. Yeah, has
Speaker 2: everything been since the last time? Since now people can
Speaker 2: see your face? Uh, you know.
Speaker 3: Ryan, it's it's it's a been a bit of a year.
Speaker 2: It's been a great year.
Speaker 3: Huh you know we can, we can. Yes, it is Paul,
Speaker 3: Yes it is physical overdigit don't. That's not gonna start shit,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I think I forgotten last time.
Speaker 3: So I was here in May March. When was the
Speaker 3: last time I was on something like that? Something like that? Well,
Speaker 3: since then, I have lost my job, I got let go,
Speaker 3: and now I can finally tell the chat that my
Speaker 3: job was working for Apple.
Speaker 2: Sure was I and I couldn't say.
Speaker 3: A thing, and I couldn't comment on any of the
Speaker 3: Apple TV Plus movies, and so every time I would
Speaker 3: be on here, I'd be like, hey, Ryan, can we
Speaker 3: just skip over the Apple TV Plus movie? I don't one.
Speaker 3: I can't say anything, So now I can. I can
Speaker 3: talk about how shittyther movies are.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there? Wasn't there once that there was an announcement
Speaker 2: and I tried to get you to say something and
Speaker 2: needled you a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think I think it was the TV show the
Speaker 3: soccer show Ted Lasso. I think I think that was that.
Speaker 2: Uh, well, funny enough. One of the ones that we're
Speaker 2: gonna recap that comes out next week is Coda Finally will.
Speaker 3: Be I'm sure we're gonna look back and be like
Speaker 3: that deserved best picture. I'm sure I understand.
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's let's break down some of the things
Speaker 2: that have been going on in the scene in the
Speaker 2: hobby and start talking about some pickups and recent watches.
Speaker 2: So one of the big things coming out next week,
Speaker 2: one of the titles is supposed to be hard Boiled
Speaker 2: four K. And to add more fuel to the Shout
Speaker 2: Factory demise pile, What.
Speaker 3: Are you talking about, Ryan? What about Shout? Definitely?
Speaker 2: What do you? Boblic and Orbit have both come out
Speaker 2: and said we have not been able to secure all
Speaker 2: of our pre orders. Shout has uh not created enough,
Speaker 2: so we have to cancel many of these orders, and
Speaker 2: of course lots of people immediately went, oh so the
Speaker 2: sky is falling, when in all reality, I think the
Speaker 2: crazy part here is it's just fucking hard boiled and
Speaker 2: the demand is way higher than expected.
Speaker 3: Look, Ray, I believe it's not Keno, but uh, I'll
Speaker 3: have it. It's it's you know, shouts ruining the environment.
Speaker 3: You know, it's all the off gassing.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, something about scratch Factory would probably be perfect
Speaker 2: for TARSI. So yeah, uh, not really much to add
Speaker 2: to that just a hey, that is happening, and for
Speaker 2: everybody that is going through that if you pre ordered that,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that sucks that that's happening.
Speaker 3: I my interry. This is just the Good Lord saying
Speaker 3: there's an arrow version coming. And just wait.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like I've been saying that the whole time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I stand by that, Go for the arrow.
Speaker 3: He said, no, no shout back.
Speaker 2: My big question is it's it's the end of the month,
Speaker 2: which means we should be getting shout factory announcements this
Speaker 2: coming Monday. So where are those going to be revealed?
Speaker 2: If they're going to be revealed not on a website.
Speaker 2: I mean, groove is there? Or I'm sorry, everybody's telling
Speaker 2: me I'm saying it wrong that it's groove not groove.
Speaker 2: Groove is o o v E. Unless you're trying to
Speaker 2: be cool and spell it differently.
Speaker 3: Love is l o v E and this is r
Speaker 3: u v E. So it's groove groove. It's German, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, minus.
Speaker 2: What a reference this early. Other than that, it's been
Speaker 2: kind of a quiet week because most people have already announced,
Speaker 2: like their fall titles, and this is by far the
Speaker 2: busiest time of the year. We have more titles coming
Speaker 2: out right now than the rest of the year.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: There are people like Fidelity Emotion. Oh my gosh, you
Speaker 2: cannot get them to answer an email right now because
Speaker 2: they are so busy. I've had a couple of companies
Speaker 2: this week that have literally said, Yep, we don't know
Speaker 2: what to do because stuff is behind and we are
Speaker 2: trying to do all this stuff, so we're screwed. Terror
Speaker 2: Vision's last Friday announcement will be tomorrow. One of the
Speaker 2: things that we were supposed to be doing with them
Speaker 2: is delayed because it has been so busy this fall.
Speaker 3: So are you talking about my preorder?
Speaker 2: Yeah, your pre order specifically, we held to the side.
Speaker 2: All that to say, have a lot of patience with
Speaker 2: these companies right now. There's a lot going on before
Speaker 2: we go into pickups and recent watches. The last thing
Speaker 2: that I will say is probably not going to affect
Speaker 2: many of you watching live. However, for everybody listening to
Speaker 2: the podcast after this is going to have an effect
Speaker 2: on some of you. And this is where I bring
Speaker 2: up the allegations of this show being far too political.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just head that off right now and say fine,
Speaker 2: if you think it's too political, this isn't the show
Speaker 2: for you. I vehemently disagree with everything that is happening
Speaker 2: to this country with Ice right now, and with Spotify
Speaker 2: allowing them to play ads supporting Ice. I and many
Speaker 2: of the shows on the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network
Speaker 2: are removing our shows from Spotify, and I wanted to
Speaker 2: let you know that after this week, the show will
Speaker 2: no longer be on the Spotify platform. So if that's
Speaker 2: where you listen, I'm giving you this warning to say,
Speaker 2: start subscribing on another platform because I will not be
Speaker 2: putting this on Spotify, and by next Friday, when the
Speaker 2: show goes up, it will not be there.
Speaker 3: Is this the bad time that I should tell you
Speaker 3: that YouTube also puts up the Ice ads?
Speaker 2: Sure, the hard part is that cannot be avoided. I
Speaker 2: do understand that that is likely happening. But the only
Speaker 2: way that we can push back against some of these
Speaker 2: really shitty corporations is by taking away their opportunity to
Speaker 2: make money. And they need our content to make money,
Speaker 2: so we are not going to be UH continuing to
Speaker 2: add to that, So fuck Ice, fuck everything that they do,
Speaker 2: and UH based on that goodbye to Spotify. It's a
Speaker 2: good rule in life.
Speaker 3: Don't be a little bitch. It's very simple.
Speaker 2: That's about it.
Speaker 3: Colton.
Speaker 2: This is one of the worst sentences I've ever read
Speaker 2: in my life. I Colton says, I have to watch
Speaker 2: ice ads during fucking Jeopardy. That sucks.
Speaker 3: What is bullshit?
Speaker 2: I I was gonna add so much more, but I
Speaker 2: really can't get fired tomorrow, so I will just be quiet. Anyways,
Speaker 2: you wanted to pick ups first, or you want to
Speaker 2: do recent watches.
Speaker 3: Let's do recent watches. I of course just got a cramp,
Speaker 3: because I get a cramp every single time I'm on
Speaker 3: your damn show. What this is? I think it's just
Speaker 3: the way I sit in my chair.
Speaker 2: But well, and I just shifted a little bit. Ever
Speaker 2: since I started losing weight this year. This year is
Speaker 2: killing my ass on this chair. So like nine times
Speaker 2: the show, I'm like, Okay, I gotta move a little bit.
Speaker 3: There's a little more phones down there. You got to
Speaker 3: move to the couch. You gotta have a like a
Speaker 3: disconnected couch.
Speaker 2: Oh I wish I could. I would love to do
Speaker 2: this from a lazy boy, just kind of chilling all night.
Speaker 3: He's like a professor X chair.
Speaker 2: Oh it's not a bad idea telling ye what have
Speaker 2: you been watching?
Speaker 3: Well, I'd have been a bit busy couple of weeks,
Speaker 3: so I actually had to cancel a lot of my
Speaker 3: my viewings. But I did manage to get to the
Speaker 3: Alamo Draft House and see Frankenstein. Because Netflix does not
Speaker 3: put their stuff in AMC yep. Uh do I get
Speaker 3: a consistence? Has people seeing Frankenstein? Can I talk about it?
Speaker 3: Is anyone gonna feel angry if I start? Because I
Speaker 3: know it's limited as far as what they can who
Speaker 3: can see it?
Speaker 2: I mean speaking generalizations. No spoilers, nothing has been It's
Speaker 2: not even on Netflix yet, soolers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not breaking the mold, so I'm not. It's
Speaker 3: a what three hundred year old story, so you know,
Speaker 3: we know the basic idea of it. I really want
Speaker 3: to call out any film critic Brandon. I should have
Speaker 3: if it didn't cost me so much and I order
Speaker 3: dinner with it, so I just had to stay and
Speaker 3: watch it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I caught all the critics that say, oh, this is
Speaker 3: a very faithful adaptation.
Speaker 2: No it's not.
Speaker 3: It's not a faithful adaptation. I mean it does the
Speaker 3: basic idea of like Victor Frankenstein makes a monster, which
Speaker 3: I think pop culture has ruined the story because most
Speaker 3: people just think that's the story. And I actually just
Speaker 3: recently read Frankenstein and the book has no dialogue, I
Speaker 3: mean for the most part, and it's a lot of
Speaker 3: descriptions of scenery. It is a feminist story. So the
Speaker 3: problem is is that basically, if you are adapting this
Speaker 3: story that is very basic and you are putting in dialogue,
Speaker 3: it's your dialogue, it's not Mary Shelley's. And if you
Speaker 3: divert from the story at hand, you're now not telling
Speaker 3: this feminist story. You're telling your own story. So the
Speaker 3: question is the story worth telling? And we're going to
Speaker 3: get into that probably later on when we have our discussion.
Speaker 3: But it the movie has no like, no point. It's
Speaker 3: pretty basic, and it's just I didn't feel like, and
Speaker 3: many of people have said this already. Del Tora has
Speaker 3: already done this before with better with other films, right,
Speaker 3: because again the story he tells with Frankenstein, that it's
Speaker 3: because it is not really the Frankenstein story. Frank was
Speaker 3: could have been another story and just say, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: it's kind of like, you know, this is kind of
Speaker 3: like the Franken It's like, helped me out here, the
Speaker 3: Emma Stone movie Poor Things, Poor Things, Yeah, yeah, which
Speaker 3: is Frankenstein.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's literally like an adaptation of the same story.
Speaker 3: Yes, but it says so much more in telling it.
Speaker 3: And this is very Look, it's gorgeous. I cannot fall
Speaker 3: to that. It is amazingly shot. The practical effects, everything
Speaker 3: is great. But at the heart of it, it's Frankenstein.
Speaker 3: But they've taken out all the things that make the
Speaker 3: story Frankenstein. What are you left with? And unfortunately it's.
Speaker 2: Just that much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not much. That's all I'll say on that.
Speaker 3: As far as other movies, I saw Black Phone two.
Speaker 3: I thought the feeling that you didn't like Black Phone
Speaker 3: two as much as I did.
Speaker 2: I liked it a lot. I liked it a lot
Speaker 2: more than the first one.
Speaker 3: Because I messaged you after I saw it. I was like,
Speaker 3: oh man, there's so making a third and you said
Speaker 3: they better not.
Speaker 2: I mean, I here's the thing. I did say that
Speaker 2: because this was like, it did feel very final at
Speaker 2: the end of this, but also so did part one.
Speaker 2: I was not like walking out a Part one. I
Speaker 2: never expected there to be a sequel, let alone that
Speaker 2: I would love the sequel compared to the first one,
Speaker 2: because I walked to the first one feeling quite tepid,
Speaker 2: and the second one I thought was very good. I
Speaker 2: think there was some some logic pain points, but other
Speaker 2: than that, which in a film like that, there had
Speaker 2: to be logic pain points. Other than that, it's better performances,
Speaker 2: it's a better storyline, it's a miracle of plot that
Speaker 2: they were able to pull out of that. It's it's
Speaker 2: fantastic compared to the first one. But I feel like
Speaker 2: you already pulled off one miracle. You probably don't need
Speaker 2: to try to pull off the third.
Speaker 3: For a second, there were things I kept waiting for,
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to go into specifics, good if
Speaker 3: people haven't seen it. I kept waiting. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: and then this is going to happen, and it's going
Speaker 3: to turn out to be this. We'll talk about it afterwards. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I think this is like their Halloween two, and
Speaker 3: I think like that they should just stop it with
Speaker 3: that character, yeah, and move on to something else. Like
Speaker 3: the ability that these kids have can can lend itself
Speaker 3: to any number of stories, just like Halloween was supposed
Speaker 3: to be like a serial. It's like a news story
Speaker 3: every time get off of that character, the Snatcher or
Speaker 3: whatever he's called the grapper ever grab in the Snatch,
Speaker 3: and it just needs to go away from that unless
Speaker 3: you can, like somehow delve into what it is that
Speaker 3: that brings him back the season of the Witch. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: Like again, all these people all over the world are kidnapped,
Speaker 3: and it's like she's like the psychic and he's like
Speaker 3: the It's like a team. It's like a you know,
Speaker 3: you know, ghost hunters or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: It could be.
Speaker 3: It's at the conjuring. Basically, it's like junior conjure. So
Speaker 3: I I enjoyed what they did, but I kept saying like, well,
Speaker 3: you're either going to explain more, yeah, or or move
Speaker 3: on to something else, because I really thought they were
Speaker 3: going to expand and reveal some twists from the first one,
Speaker 3: and then they didn't. I was like, well, then what's
Speaker 3: this point? But again, I wouldn't mind a third one.
Speaker 3: I really liked, like you said, the way they shot.
Speaker 3: I love that that is it sixteen milimeter?
Speaker 2: I think it might have even been eight milimeter.
Speaker 3: It might have been eight or am I. I couldn't
Speaker 3: tell if it was real or they just did something
Speaker 3: to like, you know, artificially make it look.
Speaker 2: From what I read, I believe it was accurate. And
Speaker 2: Dereckson did the same thing for Sinister as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no they did. I heard the interviewed them and said, yeah,
Speaker 3: it is definitely real film. So yeah, and then I
Speaker 3: think that's about I'm pulling up my AMC app because
Speaker 3: that's how much I don't freaking remember at this point
Speaker 3: what I've seen. I was supposed to see Bogonia, but
Speaker 3: I didn't, So I think I'm actually going to see
Speaker 3: that tomorrow night rather than doing that that doubleheader that
Speaker 3: AMC is doing the two, because I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be I feel like they're kind of hyping it
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I bet you these aren't good and
Speaker 3: that's like they're mush them together. Yeah, and I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm going to get more out of Bogonia and
Speaker 3: I love Yugoslanthon.
Speaker 2: So I hear that, and I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: even on your radar, but I am hearing that everybody
Speaker 2: needs to see Anniversary if they get a chance, and
Speaker 2: you should try to see that this weekend.
Speaker 3: What which one explain to me what that is? Because
Speaker 3: I've heard Why do I know that I've heard that title? Uh?
Speaker 3: Do I know that?
Speaker 2: It's it's hyped as a horror movie that's going under
Speaker 2: the radar, that is very relevant to today. We'll not
Speaker 2: say much more, but if you get a chance. Everybody
Speaker 2: that I have seen it has only raved about it.
Speaker 3: This is not the one with the Oh no, Keeper
Speaker 3: is the one I'm thinking of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Keeper is the next Oz Perkins. And that's like
Speaker 2: two weeks or something like how.
Speaker 3: Can this guy film so much in one year? Everything's
Speaker 3: like it's like and we're talking about your new film,
Speaker 3: Oz and he says like, yeah, well let's get ready
Speaker 3: for my next one.
Speaker 2: And both of those I believe were filmed last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I'll have to look it up. I've
Speaker 3: I've heard that that that that word anniversary. I do
Speaker 3: want to it's oh, I've seen here now yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: check out the trail. Ohh and now I know I did.
Speaker 3: I saw I saw a scene from it. Diane Lane, yes, yes, yeah, okay, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: And and Kyle Chandler with who whom I love and
Speaker 3: I saw tron arish.
Speaker 2: How is that music video?
Speaker 3: That's what it is if you go into it the
Speaker 3: very moment the screen goes dark and the red I
Speaker 3: starts three D printing the Disney thing. You go and
Speaker 3: some three D and you're like, Okay, this is what
Speaker 3: this is. Because every time they start talking about like
Speaker 3: science and like like, oh well, inside the Tron world,
Speaker 3: the meta bites and and but we can't get the
Speaker 3: thing to do, and you're going, I know if that
Speaker 3: makes much sense and just goes I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: I forgot what I was thinking about. Yeah, this looks cool,
Speaker 3: It's like and then ever you're gonna you're like, wait,
Speaker 3: so if he's got access to the key, why does
Speaker 3: she Okay, you know them near mine? Yeah, that's what
Speaker 3: it is. And it's like, honestly, I went back and
Speaker 3: listened to the my friends Love nine inch Nail, so
Speaker 3: I'm like listening to the soundtrack. There's no tracks where
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh yeah that track. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 3: why the visuals need to go with it. It's not
Speaker 3: something I would listen to. Whereas the Daft punk score
Speaker 3: from from Tron Legacy It's like, yeah, I can listen
Speaker 3: to any of those tracks and be like, yeah, let's go,
Speaker 3: let's go it. So what have you seen too much?
Speaker 2: It's been a very very busy week, and I.
Speaker 3: Say, can you see me? Ryan? Are you okay at
Speaker 3: least a little bit?
Speaker 2: Not only was it an overwhelming week where I had
Speaker 2: to purchase multiple tickets because I used all four of
Speaker 2: my amc that passes before, but I watched a lot
Speaker 2: at home this week too, A bunch of stuff I
Speaker 2: can't talk about, but the big one.
Speaker 3: I thought you said I watched a lot of Homeless
Speaker 3: this week. I was like, and I quickly got it.
Speaker 3: I quickly got what you were saying. But it really is.
Speaker 3: I was like, yes, people watching the Homeless.
Speaker 2: Like, yep, I'm frozen.
Speaker 3: No, he's frozen. Oh you're just like I just like
Speaker 3: watching bum fights or something like that.
Speaker 2: Whoops, Yeah, I actually like Dangerous Animals. I was. I
Speaker 2: was into that one. But uh yeah this week was crazy.
Speaker 2: Uh so, uh the big one I want to shout out.
Speaker 2: We had our monthly Patreon watch along on Sunday night
Speaker 2: and we watched Kyoshi Kirosawa's cloud that was an announcement
Speaker 2: last week and I hinted that I was excited to
Speaker 2: be watching it soon surprised everybody showed that Sunday night,
Speaker 2: and it's a good movie. I'm probably gonna piss off
Speaker 2: a lot of people by saying this. I liked it
Speaker 2: a lot more than Cure. I am not a big
Speaker 2: fan of Cure, and this was to me much better
Speaker 2: than Cure. Not not a five star movie or anything
Speaker 2: like that, but very very good, very interesting that the
Speaker 2: second half specifically, God, there's some really wonderfully like setup
Speaker 2: shots in that. Did you get a chance to when
Speaker 2: that that one yet?
Speaker 3: Cloud Yep? I have not. I've not uh delved in
Speaker 3: the case, and I probably will would love because I
Speaker 3: have Cure. I had the UK is it Eureka?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I had the release, Yeah, which I figure is enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Was there controversy on the Criterion release? I feel like
Speaker 3: did they change something on the Cloud Cure? The Memory
Speaker 3: Memories of a Murder? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That one that one they did? Yes, okay, okay, And
Speaker 2: it wasn't even them, It was Bong that did it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was that was Cloud. Oh kb's on
Speaker 2: my team, Thank you, KB? Sing other stuff? What's that?
Speaker 3: Not to be confused with the cure. No, that is
Speaker 3: much more controversial.
Speaker 2: Other stuff that I watched this week that is worth
Speaker 2: talking about because hot take Shelby Oaks is not worth
Speaker 2: talking about. So I want to skip right over that one.
Speaker 2: I showed my kids A Rackingophobia. Uh, that was a
Speaker 2: fun time. I love that movie. John Goodman is hilarious. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember so much about watching that when I was younger,
Speaker 2: and man, there's some really great scenes in that movie.
Speaker 2: I completely appreciate the way they tell that story. I
Speaker 2: feel like it's just a unique setup, lots of tension,
Speaker 2: it's so well done, and it's something so easy with spy,
Speaker 2: Like we all hate spiders for the most part. It's
Speaker 2: like a ninety eight percent hated thing. Uh huh, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's pretty great. I love Racknophobia.
Speaker 3: I almost hate spiders more than I hate sharks because
Speaker 3: sharks I don't go in the ocean because I don't
Speaker 3: fuck with that's their world and this is mine. So
Speaker 3: they're not They're not, you know, coming on to land.
Speaker 3: But spiders are just fucking everywhere. And yeah that movie.
Speaker 3: Oh that last scene in the basement and just the
Speaker 3: speed in which that thing moves. Why do they have
Speaker 3: so many eyes, why do they have It's like you
Speaker 3: can't just mix and match. They don't need all those legs,
Speaker 3: they don't need all those eyes, they don't need fur.
Speaker 3: What fuck, I'll take all the flies. I know they
Speaker 3: eat the flies. I don't care. Leave the flies. Get
Speaker 3: that spider. I can't stand it. Whenever I seem like
Speaker 3: like someone like like, what's it? The is it rusty?
Speaker 3: The older brother in home alone? I'm like, that's right there,
Speaker 3: like you know that person's trouble because it's like what
Speaker 3: person wants a spider yep, Like, would be willing to
Speaker 3: have a spider walk on them? No? No, no, Ryan, No,
Speaker 3: not not a fan. Huh. I'd rather sleep on a
Speaker 3: bet of scorpions than spiders.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: Scorpions are exactly what they look like there, there's hard
Speaker 3: shell and they got the little spike. I can look
Speaker 3: at a scorming goth that's a scorpion, but a spider
Speaker 3: is just like there's something skittery. I don't like skitariness.
Speaker 3: I can do some heads. I can do everything I do.
Speaker 3: I love caterpillars, love a nice little sweet caterpillar on me.
Speaker 3: But again, I do the spider no spider.
Speaker 2: So uh, real quick, before I get into my other
Speaker 2: two things I was going to talk about. I am
Speaker 2: jealous Asylum Mandibles has got my ticket for bahu Bali
Speaker 2: the Epic tomorrow. Early this week I watched the Until
Speaker 2: the Story, which is pretty good. I'm dying to see
Speaker 2: Bahu Bali and it is showing it one theater around me,
Speaker 2: and I can't fit it into the schedule because it's
Speaker 2: fucking forever long, sadly.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: So yeah, two more things to cover real quick. One
Speaker 2: that I hated and one that I think is going
Speaker 2: to go underseen by most people.
Speaker 3: I know when you hated. I know which when you hated.
Speaker 2: Tell the world which one I hated.
Speaker 3: Then I will say that you regretted watching this movie.
Speaker 2: That's not the one I'm gonna cover. I was entertained
Speaker 2: watching regretting you. It's not a good movie, but I
Speaker 2: was entertained watching it. The one that I hated is
Speaker 2: the next horror section film, and that is dream Eater.
Speaker 2: Dream Eater is a found footage film that is about
Speaker 2: a couple that has a The male half of the
Speaker 2: couple is experiencing sleepwalking like to the worst degree. He
Speaker 2: is somebody that is suddenly appearing violent while sleepwalking, and
Speaker 2: so based on that, his therapist has said, you should
Speaker 2: get away, just go take some time for you and
Speaker 2: your your partner, stay you know, out somewhere remote, take
Speaker 2: care of like, just just take take care of yourself.
Speaker 2: And I'm like that, first of all, that's not even
Speaker 2: a good plan.
Speaker 3: That is a terrible that what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Yes, So that that's already a strike against them. So
Speaker 2: they go after this remote, remote cabin in the middle
Speaker 2: of it snowstorm, and it is poorly acted, poorly written,
Speaker 2: derivative in terms of every single plot point. Everything falls
Speaker 2: apart in this movie. But the worst thing is, like
Speaker 2: it's two people on camera for ninety percent of the film.
Speaker 2: There's like a cut in with the therapist here and
Speaker 2: there and the supernatural guy that knows everything about the
Speaker 2: demon that's at for them and all that. All of
Speaker 2: that is happening too, But the two people that are
Speaker 2: on camera are just bad at everything that they're doing.
Speaker 2: They're not great actors, they're not telling the story. Well know,
Speaker 2: the whole point of this is you don't know anything
Speaker 2: associated with the film and it's Eli Roth producing. So
Speaker 2: it's gotten on some stars like that man's No. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: wait it's called dream Eater. Dream Eater two words?
Speaker 3: Does he eat her?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I want my money, I'm want my money. Act.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ronnie was asking, what's the movie again? It is
Speaker 2: dream Eater. It is a I'd say it's one to
Speaker 2: avoid if you are like sitting on a full schedule.
Speaker 2: This is one that you're gonna regret watching. Even as
Speaker 2: a personal I love found footage for the most part,
Speaker 2: did not even like found footage. The only film that
Speaker 2: has been worse this year about found footage is Shelby
Speaker 2: Oaks because Shelby Oaks they didn't even know what medium
Speaker 2: they were trying to make the movie in. But yeah,
Speaker 2: Dreammeter was not good.
Speaker 3: If it's found footage.
Speaker 2: The way they're doing it is we're telling the female
Speaker 2: partner to document his sleepwalking and then she's filming all
Speaker 2: day long. That's not sleepwalking. It's like they ruined the
Speaker 2: conceit of it.
Speaker 3: First off, if they were a reality, it would all
Speaker 3: be in vertical, would not be in the landscape. Right,
Speaker 3: you can't tell me any young person's actually doing this
Speaker 3: like hey, honey, ey, No, they'd be like, I'm getting
Speaker 3: this ready for TikTok when you walk into the woods
Speaker 3: without your pants on, Oh that happens. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 3: believing that. I can't stand titles that don't actually represent
Speaker 3: the film. And I feel the same like you ever
Speaker 3: listened to like like they have these like fantasy scores
Speaker 3: where it's like it's like action, like it's like trailer music,
Speaker 3: but it's not actually written. And it has names like
Speaker 3: Blades of Destiny. What the fuck does that mean?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: What is a blade? It just two words that sound
Speaker 3: cool together, Blades of Destiny. I hate that ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love it either. But one I did
Speaker 2: love that hardly anybody is going to watch, and that
Speaker 2: is Blue Moon. Blue Moon is the newest Richard link
Speaker 2: Later movie starring Ethan Hawk. Ethan Hawk is incredible of
Speaker 2: this movie. This is all about Lorenz Hart, who is
Speaker 2: one of the lyricists behind the titular song blue Moon.
Speaker 2: They they of course play it early in the film
Speaker 2: and it is a beautiful chamber piece shot wonderfully like
Speaker 2: literally in the lobby of like an opera house type
Speaker 2: of the theater area, and you for ninety percent of
Speaker 2: the movie you're just watching Ethan Hawk speak beautifully that's it.
Speaker 2: He's just acting amazingly. I don't know what the hell
Speaker 2: they chose to do with this hairpiece. I'm sure it
Speaker 2: was meant to look like Reren's heart, but what's hilarious?
Speaker 2: He gets lost with that hair piece for most of
Speaker 2: the movie and then with like eight minutes left in
Speaker 2: the movie, he puts on a hat and you go, oh,
Speaker 2: it's even Hawk. It's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Is he supposed to be very short?
Speaker 2: Uh? I think he does come across that way in
Speaker 2: the film.
Speaker 3: Because I saw the trailer. It's Margaret Qualley right, yes, okay,
Speaker 3: and she looks like she's being presented as very tall,
Speaker 3: so for.
Speaker 2: Some of those tell but she's also on heels too.
Speaker 3: Okay, because some of those shots makes it look like tiptoes.
Speaker 3: It's it's not it looks like almost like not quite
Speaker 3: like Lord of the Rings, Like he looks much smaller
Speaker 3: than her.
Speaker 2: Yet Ethan Hawk is having a hell of a moment
Speaker 2: right now. Jeez, we were just talking about Black Phone too.
Speaker 2: We're talking about this the lowdown on FX. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Blue Moon brand new movie from link later.
Speaker 2: It's like I said, lowentz heart, but also it's about
Speaker 2: the deeper story of Rogers and Hammerstein and all of that.
Speaker 2: Josh Like, there's so much to say. Because it's being
Speaker 2: a chamber piece, there's not a lot of scenery, but
Speaker 2: it's a beautiful little like lobby area. There's not a
Speaker 2: lot of characters, but they're developed wonderfully. There's not a
Speaker 2: lot of plot development, but because of how they're approaching
Speaker 2: the story, it is like a lot happens in life
Speaker 2: in a span of eighty five minutes, and it's truly
Speaker 2: just incredible acting from Ethan Hawk like he is he
Speaker 2: deserves an oscar for this, He's probably not going.
Speaker 3: To get it because it's almost like a play.
Speaker 2: Oh, this literally could have been adapted as a play
Speaker 2: just like this.
Speaker 3: God Yeah, I mean look, link Later has already proven
Speaker 3: himself as being able to do.
Speaker 2: Time and time again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that just type of like, you know, just people
Speaker 3: talking for you know, the whole film, which being I'm
Speaker 3: waiting for the four k of the Before trilogy. I
Speaker 3: feel like that's like, yes, it's gone.
Speaker 2: It better be.
Speaker 3: Because he has said I mean he said it multiple times,
Speaker 3: but even though recently said that there's another there's a
Speaker 3: possibility of a fourth film, but that this is the
Speaker 3: trilogy is done, and that this might this would probably
Speaker 3: be something else, like the after trilogy, like like you know,
Speaker 3: maybe they got divorced and you know, now this is them, right,
Speaker 3: who knows. I mean, I wouldn't smoering it. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: mind if it was, like you know, they just kept
Speaker 3: doing these things every ten to fifteen years until you know,
Speaker 3: one of them passes and maybe even do Like I
Speaker 3: don't know, but did you like Midnight?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's not it's not Sunrise, but it's it's still.
Speaker 3: Are you a Sunrise person?
Speaker 2: I got? I love Sunrise? Okay, truly, I'm I think
Speaker 2: the biggest thing is I'm like died in the world
Speaker 2: dialogue person, And the dialogue in Sunrise is the best
Speaker 2: of the trilogy. Yeah, the chemistry, it develops early and
Speaker 2: you hear you hear things that you can imagine people
Speaker 2: actually saying, which in link later films doesn't like. That's
Speaker 2: one of his big claim to fames, like it's so
Speaker 2: realistic because of how he treats his characters. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I love them all, but Sunrise is just kind of
Speaker 2: my jam.
Speaker 3: People seem to be like really keen on Sunset, like
Speaker 3: like have said, it's like, you know, it's way better
Speaker 3: than the first one. I'm like, I like the second one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's good. I feel like it is very short. It's
Speaker 3: probably the shortest of all three. Yeah, and and it
Speaker 3: ends for me a little bit abruptly, like it's a
Speaker 3: very abrupt ending, like, yeah, are apart. I'm sorry. It's
Speaker 3: people talking, but they're in a place and they're talking.
Speaker 3: You get there and then and it ends, and then
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I thought there was more to say.
Speaker 2: Can somebody please clip that and replace the synopsis on
Speaker 2: IMDb with that? Please? That would thank you, thank you
Speaker 2: so much. Yeah, it's it's great. I do prefer Sunrise,
Speaker 2: but uh, it's it's just a It's an incredible trilogy,
Speaker 2: and I would if they could keep the quality up,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be upset making a quadrilogy.
Speaker 3: I mean the Midnight I like Midnight, but I feel
Speaker 3: and I get it and it's an appropriate continuation, right,
Speaker 3: it's also very realistic. Yeah, it just brings me down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3: I go to Sunrise to feel inspired and then they
Speaker 3: give me Midnight because they want to give me a
Speaker 3: reality check.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Instead people saying you're getting too political in here. They
Speaker 3: should be saying you're getting too midnight in here.
Speaker 2: All right, you want to talk about some pickups?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well the first one is so obviously
Speaker 3: like everyone else, I've been picking off the bones of
Speaker 3: show Factory's website. Unfortunately, none of my stuff arrived and
Speaker 3: they don't really give you, Like my tracking number is
Speaker 3: really hard to look up, like I can't see where
Speaker 3: it is. So yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'll
Speaker 3: have to look a little. I'm sure it's on its way.
Speaker 3: But I picked this up because it was already off
Speaker 3: their site by the time it was on sale. I
Speaker 3: had in my I had in my cart and then
Speaker 3: it disappeared. It's like I like, damn day. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: I got that off Amazon for basically the same price.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: The reason these are all still seals because they literally
Speaker 3: showed up yesterday, So it's not because I'm not opening them.
Speaker 3: So this was actually supposed to be here Friday tomorrow,
Speaker 3: but it showed.
Speaker 2: Up early great movie, wonderful movie, and it showed up
Speaker 2: with this wonderful movie. I love them both.
Speaker 3: This marking now complete carpenter for me on HD not unfotunate,
Speaker 3: including Masters of four Yes, masters of Oh good, yeh,
Speaker 3: that's what we are. I knew I thought someone in
Speaker 3: the chat was going to say something. In fact, I
Speaker 3: forgot to turn the comments on. Oh there we go.
Speaker 3: I didn't think it would be you. I didn't think
Speaker 3: it would be you Ryan or yes, I do have it.
Speaker 3: I feel like i'd seen the trailer for this when
Speaker 3: it came out, and then it came and went and
Speaker 3: I just never saw it. A duchess. Yeah it's a
Speaker 3: b DR. So everyone can start griping now. But I
Speaker 3: love me a le Nikita rip off, like a revenge
Speaker 3: type of you know, hot girl kicking ass. So its
Speaker 3: a and it was five ninety nine on Amazon or
Speaker 3: so I'm not gonna argue that this I picked up
Speaker 3: as a blind bike because I missed it in the theater.
Speaker 2: Good movie. I enjoyed that one.
Speaker 3: I love me a little neo noir, which is what
Speaker 3: this looks like. Yep, my am I correct, And assuming that.
Speaker 2: You know, yes, I would lean, I would lean more
Speaker 2: towards the like the absurdity of Coen Brothers setting up
Speaker 2: against a just very not like comedic background. But you're
Speaker 2: you're gonna like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, See, I feel like this design when I see
Speaker 3: this tells me Coen Brothers. It also tells me something
Speaker 3: like what's the diner one that you love so much?
Speaker 2: Oh? Last top and you mccunty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they all have this type of yep design to them.
Speaker 3: You know. I feel like I feel like Honey Don't
Speaker 3: did the same type of art.
Speaker 2: Orp. Also, what a hell of a year Paul Walter
Speaker 2: Hauser is having that and Fantastic four, and then I
Speaker 2: just saw on this week in the Springsteen movie too.
Speaker 3: Oh how is the Springsteen movie?
Speaker 2: It is boring as fuck. I think my letterbox review
Speaker 2: was why does everybody keep trying to remake Walk Hard?
Speaker 2: The Dewey Cock story and it ruined? Evident music biopics
Speaker 2: are done, don't do it again.
Speaker 3: Unless something really tragic happened to the person. Even then,
Speaker 3: that's what everyone's waiting for. That's the thing, is everyone's
Speaker 3: kind of waiting for, like the giant fall from Grace
Speaker 3: or something. That's what they're But if there's like he's alive,
Speaker 3: he's fine, he's still writing new music, it's like okay.
Speaker 2: Right, But even then something really tragic like Dewey's brother
Speaker 2: was cut in half. You're not gonna top that.
Speaker 3: Dewey Cox says the thing about his entire life before
Speaker 3: he goes on stage, which is funny because they did
Speaker 3: that literally for uh the Bob Marley movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's identical not to cut into this, but I
Speaker 2: didn't know Paul Walter Hauser was the guy in the
Speaker 2: Pressure Luck movie. I really need to watch that.
Speaker 3: Damn heard that.
Speaker 2: It's uh, yeah, it's supposed to be carry Mulligan in
Speaker 2: my right. It's supposed to be about the guy that
Speaker 2: like gained the system because he studied it so much
Speaker 2: that he knew exactly when to press the button. And uh,
Speaker 2: I don't remember what it's called, but it's supposed to
Speaker 2: be great.
Speaker 3: I have to check it out.
Speaker 2: Did you see the doctors here? And he says, there
Speaker 2: goes the neighborhood high Sumner.
Speaker 3: Hey, uh, what it hurts when I do this?
Speaker 2: Well, he's just gonna tell you to stop doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hurts, hurts when I do this.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say a shout out to doctor Will. He's
Speaker 2: got an event that happens tonight that he's gonna be
Speaker 2: talking about on next week's show that I cannot wait
Speaker 2: to hear about Oh.
Speaker 3: You know, many ever problems the first step? Will?
Speaker 2: What else you got there?
Speaker 3: Will? And I We're gonna be doing this dance forever.
Speaker 3: I got nothing wrong. In case anyone wonders, I got
Speaker 3: nothing wrong. Will? I love Will? I just give Will shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: If he ever things that I'm really trying to like
Speaker 3: dig at him. That's not my goal at all.
Speaker 2: Fuck, Walton Gog is just the host and the luckiest
Speaker 2: man in America. This is going on my immediate watch list.
Speaker 3: Thanks Carrie, good Lord, Malton.
Speaker 2: Guy God love him.
Speaker 3: But I picked this up from your favorite website, Movies Unlimited,
Speaker 3: along with this surprisingly with a fucking slipcover. Wow right,
Speaker 3: I guess that's what happens when you order directly from
Speaker 3: the supplier. It's just whatever they have left, which makes
Speaker 3: you think maybe I should order Halloween two from them
Speaker 3: and maybe they'll have a hard box. Would you say
Speaker 3: it will not happen?
Speaker 2: And it will, But uh, I'll take that bet double
Speaker 2: or nothing. I've already said it.
Speaker 3: You know you're gonna buy me a fucking movie. Everybody's like,
Speaker 3: what are they talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Anything else?
Speaker 3: No that I mean as well? Of course. Well, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's Halloween episode, so I should probably that's pretty I should.
Speaker 3: I should probably bring this this thing up. Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: your favorite person.
Speaker 2: Jeremy Long is pissed off right now because Amazon was
Speaker 2: just showing uh like order placed still and he went
Speaker 2: and talked to customer service today and they said, oh,
Speaker 2: it's still pending and it's showing it will be delivered
Speaker 2: on December eighth. Do we think he's gonna get that?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna hope so. But at the same it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, they're just trying to get through the orders.
Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, I feel like if they
Speaker 3: were gonna say like, hey, I'm sorry, like would you
Speaker 3: like your money, but like we're going to cancel this
Speaker 3: it's not available. Clearly they're still playing I mean, if
Speaker 3: they're saying December, they're playing it up like they still
Speaker 3: got stuff there. What's what's gonna be the point between
Speaker 3: now and December when they cancel his order. They're only
Speaker 3: gonna piss him off more would be the point, I
Speaker 3: don't think. And again, look, customer service doesn't have jack shit.
Speaker 3: I mean, they have no access to that stuff. Sure're
Speaker 3: so sure if they have an intermission title. Anyways, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go into my pick up. You drink king when
Speaker 3: you're not hosting.
Speaker 2: He's not drinking what he is hosting. It's the funniest part. First,
Speaker 2: we'll go us A wanted me to watch Prisoner of War,
Speaker 2: so they sent this to me. Just got this in today.
Speaker 2: Scott Atkins knew a movie which is uh Atkins, Scott. Uh,
Speaker 2: this actually looks really great, decent looking release.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: There are zero special features on here. I wish we'll
Speaker 2: go would do something. But Scott Adkins pretty damn great
Speaker 2: at what he does.
Speaker 3: Hey, what he does is great. Boy he does is
Speaker 3: in very nice, which is kick a lot of ass.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: My next is a trilogy of pickups. I I rail
Speaker 2: against steel books generally. I'm not a huge fan of them,
Speaker 2: even though I have far too many of them. When
Speaker 2: you're gonna release a film only on steel book that
Speaker 2: I love, I got to get it. So of course
Speaker 2: for Halloween here Saw two.
Speaker 3: Here is arc in your room, and people are like,
Speaker 3: what are we looking at?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take this leave off because they're they're actually
Speaker 2: really great.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no, I love it.
Speaker 2: And then Saw three. This one's pretty cool. Too, because
Speaker 2: you get the pig mask and you take off the
Speaker 2: mask and it's Amanda underneath.
Speaker 3: Oh nice.
Speaker 2: And then this one is wild because it's got this
Speaker 2: crazy Billy the Puppet. Then you take it off and
Speaker 2: it's like this abstract, electronic Billy the Puppet.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Do you think they're gonna do one
Speaker 3: for every single Saw movie?
Speaker 2: I don't think. I mean, they might do a steel
Speaker 2: book for every single Saw movie. Most of them cannot
Speaker 2: even like properly be on four K because I they
Speaker 2: were filmed, So yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: No. I mean I did have a very funny incident
Speaker 3: which was would have been a pickup, but it isn't.
Speaker 3: Because I saw on Amazon that original Sin, the Antonio
Speaker 3: Menderus and James Julian movie. They have a media book
Speaker 3: out and like this third party company was like, hey,
Speaker 3: we got one left. It comes to like twenty dollars
Speaker 3: with shipping. I was like, oh fuck, I'll got that. Sure,
Speaker 3: it's usually like twenty eight dollars. Yeah, fortune, that's a
Speaker 3: good one. Well, see, that's a good one. And then
Speaker 3: it arrives and actually I had forgotten what this would
Speaker 3: have been, and it came in the little bubblemailer. I said,
Speaker 3: this is so light. There's a movie in here. It's
Speaker 3: the DVD, and I can see where they could be mistaken.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, this is your business. You
Speaker 3: know what you what I want. And I thought maybe
Speaker 3: I made the mistake. And then I went back and
Speaker 3: looked like, no, it's the media book. And I started
Speaker 3: the return and I said this wrong thing was shipped.
Speaker 3: And they didn't write back the next day like hey,
Speaker 3: we're sorry this happened or whatever. They're just like, all right,
Speaker 3: return it. You're s that's not what's there, that's not
Speaker 3: how it works.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: So and we call them on. I'll have time to
Speaker 3: think about that joke well, and then I'm probably I'll
Speaker 3: probably laugh at it.
Speaker 2: Uh So, before we get into our announcements tonight, we
Speaker 2: are going to be talking about horror sequels. And that
Speaker 2: is said very vaguely, because what we're going to be
Speaker 2: doing is pitching five horror sequels to films that do
Speaker 2: not have sequels or that need a new sequel in
Speaker 2: their line. And I'm excited about this. I have four
Speaker 2: of the five in physical next to me that I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be able to talk about.
Speaker 3: After all, I should have pulled out the physical.
Speaker 2: You know, and I am I kind of really want
Speaker 2: to see these movies now that I've thought about it
Speaker 2: for the last few days.
Speaker 3: I want to put a discretion on this thing. If
Speaker 3: anyone's watching this any studios for whatever reason, possibly I
Speaker 3: don't know, just in case these are our fucking ideas.
Speaker 2: And we need to we need a credit, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Exactly, Like I know, I can't. These are ideas that
Speaker 3: actually stewing my brain for a while, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I know, I can't sell you it because it's your property,
Speaker 3: but you can't take my idea either, So my idea
Speaker 3: come find me.
Speaker 2: Other than that, we're actually gonna be talking a little
Speaker 2: bit about the Vinegar Syndrome Black Friday pre orders, which
Speaker 2: are going to be starting not tonight but tomorrow night
Speaker 2: at midnight Eastern, So we want to make sure everybody's
Speaker 2: up to date on what is being planned for tomorrow
Speaker 2: night and maybe do some speculating on what some of
Speaker 2: the titles are going to be, and looking at all
Speaker 2: these lines of maybe what this new Reviver is going
Speaker 2: to be that they are hinting yet, well, I guess
Speaker 2: you did not read that in the fact, we'll do
Speaker 2: that together afterwards.
Speaker 3: There, Yeah, we'll read together.
Speaker 2: Yes, we will. Any anything else I'm forgetting before we
Speaker 2: get into the announcements.
Speaker 3: One thing I'll a little bragging point. Well, well, first
Speaker 3: of all, I should probably mention that I have an
Speaker 3: eBay store. Now, I didn't lose my job, but I
Speaker 3: did start my own business. So uh, in case anyone
Speaker 3: is and I'm this is not anyone saying me saying
Speaker 3: you need to spend money. Do not feel compelled to
Speaker 3: do anything. I just wanted to say if you're if
Speaker 3: you're interested, this is my little business card. Here. Here
Speaker 3: you go.
Speaker 2: Look at the spot closs.
Speaker 3: Spot Loss, just like a VS slipcover. In case anyone
Speaker 3: wants to check it out. That's the QR car. I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna hold that up for a second in front
Speaker 3: of my face in case anyone wants that.
Speaker 2: I forgot to put the link in the description. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I don't worry about it. It's fine. But one other
Speaker 3: thing that I forgot to mention, and this actually happened
Speaker 3: before the last year. I think everyone's got at this point.
Speaker 3: Tell me if you didn't, is that I got a
Speaker 3: shout out from boy Meets World. But I forgot to
Speaker 3: mention this, and this was a big deal for me.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't do I forgot about that completely.
Speaker 3: So much to talk about last time. I just completely
Speaker 3: and it was a big to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, if no one knows, three of the cast members
Speaker 3: from Boy Meets World have it podcast called pod Beats World.
Speaker 3: It is a pretty big following now because Daniel Fischle
Speaker 3: is on Dancing with the Stars as well, and they
Speaker 3: had a competition for a mister Feenie impersonation, and I
Speaker 3: felt confident that I could do a pretty good William Daniels.
Speaker 2: So, which you know, you're gonna have to do it now.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to You're gonna have to get me
Speaker 3: a chance to warrant because that I can't just pull
Speaker 3: it out, but I will at some point.
Speaker 2: So because I.
Speaker 3: Really was like late at night, I like had the
Speaker 3: tape requiter. I'm just like doing it over and over
Speaker 3: and over and over again, and I thought, I feel confident,
Speaker 3: maybe they'll mention me. And then I listened to the
Speaker 3: episode and her husband, who is the producer, brings it
Speaker 3: up and he goes, this is Daniel, and he's like,
Speaker 3: I think this is really good and they were like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, like that's the best one so far.
Speaker 3: It came down between me and and one other guy
Speaker 3: and they ended up like she was the tiebreaker and
Speaker 3: she's like, I don't want to decide. Can't they both
Speaker 3: be winners? Can't we send them both a T shirt?
Speaker 3: But like they spent like twenty twenty five minutes like
Speaker 3: debating back and forth, like is it him? Can play
Speaker 3: it again? Can we hear his voice again? There was
Speaker 3: so much here? Did you actually hear the thing?
Speaker 2: Of course the moment we talked about this when it
Speaker 2: was released.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, and it's like multiple times and Daniel Fishal
Speaker 3: is like saying my name and I'm literally doing a
Speaker 3: high five with sixteen year old me through the space
Speaker 3: time continuum. I'm like, I told you would do it.
Speaker 3: I told you would do it.
Speaker 2: Man Like, yeah, it's just that Tapega knows your name Tepega.
Speaker 3: If I went up do or said hey, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: the mister Feenie from the comp she would know that.
Speaker 3: And that is like and her husband is Brently, a
Speaker 3: big physical media collector. So I'm wondering if he watches
Speaker 3: this show. So Jensen, if you're in the chat, if
Speaker 3: you're listening to this tomorrow not on Spotify, I you know,
Speaker 3: message me back. You have my email and I had
Speaker 3: I almost wore today. I didn't have the I had
Speaker 3: a T I have a T shirt. They sent me
Speaker 3: a good looking guy starring Eric Matthews. But I said,
Speaker 3: Will's gonna be in the chat. And if I say
Speaker 3: I went as good looking guy, He's gonna go. So
Speaker 3: what do you go as the other three hundred sixty
Speaker 3: four days of the year. I knew I had to
Speaker 3: joke away from Will. I said, Will's gonna make that joke.
Speaker 3: So I had to take it back and you.
Speaker 2: Still said it. Oh my god, No, it's mine.
Speaker 3: Just like these ideas for the movie sequels are mine.
Speaker 3: That joke is mine.
Speaker 2: So can we hear the mister Feenian.
Speaker 3: Oh, I have almost like closed my eyes because now
Speaker 3: I'm seeing my face doing it.
Speaker 2: Just look at Tapinka.
Speaker 3: That's the way. Mister Matthews. Oh, it's too British though,
Speaker 3: shoots Matthews, come here. I have my hamlet.
Speaker 7: He may well, he may, he may bump into the scenery,
Speaker 7: he may talk like a hay Seed for I know
Speaker 7: tomorrow he may show up in KABOOKI makeup. Nevertheless, he
Speaker 7: is my hamlet. I do how I have an opening
Speaker 7: for spear Carrier.
Speaker 3: I can do a little bit better. I have to
Speaker 3: warm up.
Speaker 2: Do it.
Speaker 3: It's pretty good, it's pretty good.
Speaker 7: But he talks sig this he's very you know, he
Speaker 7: does that fake you know New England accent that all
Speaker 7: the all the actors used to do.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's good enough for at least first or
Speaker 2: second place in a contest.
Speaker 3: The guy who I tied with was so were moments
Speaker 3: that such perfection. I was like, I just give it
Speaker 3: to him. Like he said, words like like Michael Michael,
Speaker 3: the answer to us making lam jump are slim to
Speaker 3: nomb I also sound like the I'm a president of
Speaker 3: SAG and I also sound like the guy from seventeen
Speaker 3: seventy six and the guy from uh not General Hospital.
Speaker 3: What's the someone will tell me out here.
Speaker 2: We got to hear a Kit impression.
Speaker 3: That's Michael Michael. That's that's Kit. They are making this jump.
Speaker 3: I'll sit none.
Speaker 2: We had four. I got a message asking for a
Speaker 2: Kit impression before you started doing it.
Speaker 7: I have been working in a sound booth with David
Speaker 7: Hasselhoff for four seasons. I watched that man eat a
Speaker 7: hamburger off the floor.
Speaker 3: During the recording. Thank you, Rynie.
Speaker 2: I I for those that know Anthony, Anthony DMed me
Speaker 2: on a discord to say he has to do a
Speaker 2: kit impression as well. So that's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Do mister Belvedere? I know I haven't listened to mister
Speaker 3: Belvedere's voice in Forever. Yes I can, however, do Oh,
Speaker 3: Punky Brewster's.
Speaker 2: Dad, it's so specific.
Speaker 3: Punky, he's the general from He's the head cop from
Speaker 3: police Academy. Now, oh, hi, tawa.
Speaker 2: Any any more contests to shut up before the announcements?
Speaker 3: Well, Anthony Hopkins, I have a whole one for for
Speaker 3: Anthony Hopkins. About to do that later, Severn Dart. Who
Speaker 3: are these people I'm getting? Oh, now I'm despelling. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to think of, like what I usually say from
Speaker 3: Anthony Hopkins impersonation. All these British people are just running
Speaker 3: exactly what do we have about it? Hello? Race? Yes?
Speaker 2: No, no, us are so bad.
Speaker 3: The only voicing nails is operats. Well, you are trying
Speaker 3: to wedge that insult like a round peg into a
Speaker 3: square hole?
Speaker 2: Are we ready for announcement?
Speaker 3: Yes, let's go.
Speaker 2: Let's go into it. Treasured Films on February twenty third
Speaker 2: in the UK, December sixteenth in the US. Yes, you're
Speaker 2: reading that right. February in the UK, December in the US.
Speaker 2: They are putting out Jolly Guns and Gore. The Brutal
Speaker 2: Films of Darren Wards covers three films from nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: seven all the way up through twenty nineteen. And this
Speaker 2: is the entire output of the John wu of Southampton,
Speaker 2: which is a hell of a title. I have never
Speaker 2: seen any of these. I would love to hear if
Speaker 2: anybody has. This has an illustrated book with an interviewing career,
Speaker 2: retrospective essay by Toalm Lee Rudder and new box artwork
Speaker 2: by Lawn Sheety, who's on the shelf Shock.
Speaker 3: For Rewine Awards this year. So shout out a Lawn.
Speaker 2: We got a webstore exclusive set of three postcards if
Speaker 2: you want them, signed by the director. And then the
Speaker 2: three films. We got Sudden Fury from nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 2: we've got a Day of Violence from twenty ten, then
Speaker 2: we've got Beyond Fury from twenty nineteen, all kinds of
Speaker 2: extras on all three films. This is the first box
Speaker 2: set the Treasured Films has done. And kind of curious
Speaker 2: that it's a dual US and UK release. I don't
Speaker 2: think I remember you talking much about Treasured Films.
Speaker 3: Do you have anything from them? I can look it
Speaker 3: up in my movie? Is that because I honestly, if
Speaker 3: I did, it's probably named some things that they have,
Speaker 3: and I mighty they did.
Speaker 2: Is it you might be a Killer?
Speaker 3: That was the title?
Speaker 2: I think they're the ones that just did Mikey. Mikey
Speaker 2: is shipping now?
Speaker 3: Is it finally shipping?
Speaker 2: Yes, it is shipping now. They're the ones that did
Speaker 2: the last Shark.
Speaker 3: I have nothing from them, nothing nice. How is their
Speaker 3: quality until the title?
Speaker 2: They some high highs, some very low lows.
Speaker 3: So Mikey, I should pre order or not pre order?
Speaker 2: Not not seeing any reviews yet because it's little like
Speaker 2: it literally just started shipping today.
Speaker 3: It will cost me less if I just wait for
Speaker 3: like the Black Friday like MVD sale.
Speaker 2: Well, it's only a UK release, so it won't be
Speaker 2: on No.
Speaker 3: I mean in the essence, I can get the movie
Speaker 3: the MVD version.
Speaker 2: That's true, true, But they did get a lot more
Speaker 2: extras on the new version, so this is true.
Speaker 3: I will say this, Well, first off, when you say December,
Speaker 3: are you saying February and the UK December of next year? Nope,
Speaker 3: December this year. And then okay, okay, that makes for sense.
Speaker 3: It's so weird. The front cover is like yeah, and
Speaker 3: then I see that booklet I go huh, like that
Speaker 3: looks like a brochure to work at a bank anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well he just looks like a very boring British guy.
Speaker 3: I have not heard of these films, so unfortunately can't
Speaker 3: have any opinion on them. But when you say Gialli,
Speaker 3: I'm all ears so. But there's such a broad it's
Speaker 3: like noir. There's such this broad definition of what Gilli.
Speaker 2: Is, right, and it's from the UK and the oldest
Speaker 2: film here is nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3: Well it's like it's like what was it the Cauldron?
Speaker 3: One that's like Giallo or Jialli and it's like supernatural.
Speaker 3: And then even some people debate whether or not, like
Speaker 3: Suspiria is Giallo.
Speaker 2: So Suspiria is not a Ciallo film.
Speaker 3: But it is our Gento, so people say, oh it
Speaker 3: is or it is right right, So so I don't
Speaker 3: know what the what? What if do you know of
Speaker 3: these three? What? What of it is? Gialli?
Speaker 2: I know one of the actors has been in a
Speaker 2: couple of other jolly films, but uh, that's all I got.
Speaker 2: I gotta point out, Stan, this is maybe the most
Speaker 2: unhinged comment we've got all night. He says, I would
Speaker 2: ride right or strong, and then also, happy birthday to
Speaker 2: mister Paul Berryman, who's in the chat.
Speaker 3: Paul, Happy birthday, Stan. I don't know what to say.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't blame yet, but.
Speaker 2: But I won't shoin you. So treasured films. This was
Speaker 2: their announcement last week. Heads up, they are announcing another
Speaker 2: title tomorrow morning, so be on the lookout for that
Speaker 2: as well. Next up is in print announcing two TV
Speaker 2: titles last week January seventh, or the release date for
Speaker 2: both of these. We got Blu ray releases four Rod
Speaker 2: Serling's Night Galleries, the first one. There are audio commentaries
Speaker 2: on every single episode in this box set, and on
Speaker 2: top of that, some of them have more than not
Speaker 2: only just more than one, some of them have more
Speaker 2: than two. They have new audio commentaries recorded, they have
Speaker 2: new extras recorded for all three. There's also a bonus
Speaker 2: disc with some new interviews and new special features that
Speaker 2: they've not announced yet. There's a lot or if you
Speaker 2: are a night gallery stand, I mean.
Speaker 3: If you want them all, how much is this retailing for?
Speaker 2: I mean it's imprint, so it's probably like seven hundred dollars,
Speaker 2: but it's it's not because I've.
Speaker 3: Hid the ones from Keno. But the thing is, whatever's
Speaker 3: I think at season three is more expensive than the
Speaker 3: other two. And I'm like, OK, one of them is
Speaker 3: more expensive than all the others, and I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to spend all those money on like the series.
Speaker 2: And I don't know it is it's one fifty Australian,
Speaker 2: I don't know, so that's probably like one hundred ish
Speaker 2: US one ten something like that. That. Honestly, for everything,
Speaker 2: this isn't that bad.
Speaker 3: I mean I have to imagine it's the same scans
Speaker 3: as what Kino has, So if I.
Speaker 2: Want you that bad, they are the same scans. This
Speaker 2: just has more extras if you're into.
Speaker 3: That, gotcha. I mean, for first off, I thought that
Speaker 3: was Sam Waterson. When I looked at them, I saw
Speaker 3: those eyebrows and like the Yeah, the lip's gone, but
Speaker 3: now I see the rot throwing of it all. But
Speaker 3: I really thought it was Sam Waterson.
Speaker 2: I will say Imprint is usually really great with art.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is one of they're not so
Speaker 2: great outings. The box art does not look great.
Speaker 3: I like the front, I gotta say I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't even think it needed the floating head. I think
Speaker 3: saying rod Serling is enough for anyone who's gonna buy
Speaker 3: this to know who rod Serling is.
Speaker 2: Look at that, I was spot on. Jim Harwood says
Speaker 2: Orbit has the night Gallery set for one oh six.
Speaker 3: That's not that I think it might even be less
Speaker 3: with Keno. It's just I've never seen I'm a huge
Speaker 3: twilight Zone fan. I've never seen Night Gallery.
Speaker 2: So it's very good.
Speaker 3: It would be a blind buy for me, and I
Speaker 3: don't think it's worth it. I like the classicness of
Speaker 3: the black and white. I don't as these are all
Speaker 3: color right, these are all so Yeah. I'm not a
Speaker 3: I'm not as big on the later things as even
Speaker 3: like the revival of twilight Zone, not the new one,
Speaker 3: not the not the one was done to first revival. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the first revival is not even for me as much
Speaker 3: as like the original black and white classics the first
Speaker 3: five seasons.
Speaker 2: What a phrase. That just was the first revival that
Speaker 2: is an awful.
Speaker 3: Let's say, well, decent say the same thing.
Speaker 2: That's true. Let's go to the next one. January seventh,
Speaker 2: also from Imprint is Supercar the Complete Series. This is
Speaker 2: one of the Jerry and Anderson titles. New audio commentaries
Speaker 2: on some of these, we've got new special features. This
Speaker 2: is a five disc blu ray box set, and of
Speaker 2: course it's got a forty eight page hardcover box or sorry,
Speaker 2: hardcover booklet in the box fifteen hundred limit. Looks pretty decent.
Speaker 2: Never seen the film or sorry, never seen the show.
Speaker 2: I like the Anderson style though, So.
Speaker 3: This oatmeal at Noon's not going to have it, but
Speaker 3: I can tell you who probably will have it on
Speaker 3: their shelves.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will not say the comment I was about to.
Speaker 2: Next November twenty fifth, we are getting a four K
Speaker 2: and blu ray release from Goldwin Films of Primitive War
Speaker 2: from this year. This thing, first of all, pretty pretty
Speaker 2: cheap for uh what this is? It's coming out at
Speaker 2: like twenty I think it was like eighteen dollars on
Speaker 2: four k right now in Amazon. I've heard this is
Speaker 2: shockingly great, like way better than all of the recent
Speaker 2: Jurassic Park movies. I missed this in the theater, but
Speaker 2: I want to see sure.
Speaker 3: I wasn't quite sure what I was looking at when
Speaker 3: I saw that poster on like the amc app Also,
Speaker 3: they should charge more money because they're gonna need to
Speaker 3: save up money for their lawyers. When Warner Brothers Susan
Speaker 3: for full metal jackets, full metal, I mean that is
Speaker 3: that is the full metal jacket? Is it? Not that
Speaker 3: it is?
Speaker 2: You just can't see the saying on the other side, but.
Speaker 3: That is they've clearly like taken it right from the poster, right,
Speaker 3: and I am.
Speaker 2: I mean to be fair that that was a well
Speaker 2: known thing that actually happened in Vietnam. So dinosaurs, No,
Speaker 2: the helmet'slf nothing.
Speaker 3: Dinosaurs, Dinosaurs, velociraptors are coming out of the trees.
Speaker 2: Man, there's all around us in.
Speaker 3: The writing raptors MANU, Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I mean Spyder movie. Oh, the director of this
Speaker 2: also made Scurry. I've not even heard of Scurry.
Speaker 3: I guess spiders And now I'm not fucking watching it.
Speaker 3: So who put this one out.
Speaker 2: This is Goldwyn Films.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Warner Brothers has no association.
Speaker 2: With this nothing at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna see.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Honestly, Colton, that's a good take, he says. Listen,
Speaker 2: School Island was basically that, and yeah, in a way
Speaker 2: kind of and that happened too, it did, And I
Speaker 2: like School Island a lot.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: We don't talk about Dark Forest very much for many reasons,
Speaker 2: but coming soon they are releasing a four K of
Speaker 2: Brute for or sorry Brute Corr from nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2: This says it is a couple runs into a strange
Speaker 2: marine camp where soldiers perform training exercises. The girl gets
Speaker 2: tormented and the guy goes after them. What a piece
Speaker 2: of copy. This is number twelve in their Platinum series releases.
Speaker 3: For Dark Force.
Speaker 2: It will be available to order the biggest sales of
Speaker 2: the end of the year Black Friday at the end
Speaker 2: of November.
Speaker 3: Not to invoke the wrath of mister White dreads, but
Speaker 3: at some point someone has pointed out that platinum is
Speaker 3: not gold, right. Why did they make a gold four
Speaker 3: K case for their Platinum series? Why do you even
Speaker 3: why just call it your twenty four Carrot series. Why
Speaker 3: would you.
Speaker 2: Historically they don't make a lot of great decisions over there.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to call it because like, look,
Speaker 3: a lot of these boutiques put out a lot of
Speaker 3: films that have very questionable content that you know, border
Speaker 3: on like really sarchistic, like sexist stuff, which unfortunately came
Speaker 3: out of the grindhouse of the seventies and eighties. But
Speaker 3: I feel like there is nothing that leaves the gate
Speaker 3: of Dark Force unless it has some type of assault
Speaker 3: and you know, guns and violence, right, I don't know,
Speaker 3: what do you think? I mean, Jayden, I'm all for it.
Speaker 3: I'm all for it. Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 2: I don't know what say, Like, it's Dark Force. Order
Speaker 2: at your own risk. You know what you're getting with
Speaker 2: these guys.
Speaker 3: Hey, at least he puts it out on time. At
Speaker 3: least he puts it out on time, Ryan, because some
Speaker 3: stuff is still at the printers. Some stuff is still
Speaker 3: at the printers.
Speaker 2: And I don't post about that company unless there's a
Speaker 2: title I feel like I have to. But uh yeah, next,
Speaker 2: let let's leave Dark Force and go to what is
Speaker 2: truly pop culture important here, The Walking Dead. Darryl Dixon
Speaker 2: Season three, coming to Blu Ray on December ninth, from
Speaker 2: AMC directly, not r l j E, AMC putting us out.
Speaker 2: This is the brand new twenty twenty five season of this.
Speaker 2: You've got two special features on here. You got Walking
Speaker 2: Dead Daryl Dixon Season three panel at Comic Con and
Speaker 2: then show me more the Walking Dead Daryl Dixon season three.
Speaker 2: Not sure what that means, but hey, it's there.
Speaker 3: How are they still alive?
Speaker 2: Because the dead are walking, not running?
Speaker 3: And where are they now? Look? I quit after like
Speaker 3: season after one of the main characters left. I just
Speaker 3: kind of and they did a time jump. I was
Speaker 3: just kind of like, im cool, huh cool cool, But
Speaker 3: the whole plane was like, wow, you guys walk like
Speaker 3: five miles and then stop and set up camp. It
Speaker 3: looks like they've gone to like another country.
Speaker 2: Ronnie says, they're in Europe.
Speaker 3: Now, How did they get to Europe.
Speaker 2: Riding on those arrows?
Speaker 3: No, like you can't. Did they manage to procure a plane?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 3: They really are in Europe? What the hell? How now
Speaker 3: I need to know? Like lay Side is saying, I
Speaker 3: saw a trailer for Gray's Anatomy the other day and
Speaker 3: I'm five seasons.
Speaker 2: A body in Europe.
Speaker 3: No, but I you when you watch the season, you go,
Speaker 3: who the fuck is that guy?
Speaker 2: Not of Gray's Anatomy. I don't know that.
Speaker 3: No, I'm like watching him just like, who is that.
Speaker 2: The ice Bridge came back?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, It's like.
Speaker 2: That's a that's hitting a little too close to home
Speaker 2: if ice is helping them. Oh man, let's go to
Speaker 2: our next one. Yeah uh, coming soon as an Amazon
Speaker 2: exclusive four K digipack here in the US from Lionsgate
Speaker 2: Good Fortune from this year. We don't have a release
Speaker 2: date for it yet, but you can't pre order this
Speaker 2: did you?
Speaker 3: Did you catch this one yet? I didn't, and I
Speaker 3: meant to. I felt like it was like because I
Speaker 3: was seeing a bunch of movies at the same time,
Speaker 3: and I was like it unfortunate, was like it was
Speaker 3: at the bottom of the list. Though it is a movie.
Speaker 3: I felt like it. I hate to say it's in
Speaker 3: the movie I could stream yeah right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like that. It's certainly not a required
Speaker 2: in theater watch.
Speaker 3: I feel like the Keanu Reeves character is like a
Speaker 3: character that like Jeremy could dress up as for Halloween.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh, yeah.
Speaker 3: And again everyone you I could have sworn this as
Speaker 3: a steel book looking at the at the mock up, right,
Speaker 3: but everyone's buying into the translucent slipcase.
Speaker 2: And well it's lions Kate they're doing it.
Speaker 3: Oh it is like, oh, well, there you go. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. Decent movie. It's not amazing or groundbreaking
Speaker 2: or anything like that, but it's fun. It's nice to
Speaker 2: see seth Rogen and AZ's doing something together. Even though
Speaker 2: ASESE has not made great choices in twenty twenty five either.
Speaker 3: I'm a Master of None is still a masterpiece, masterpiece.
Speaker 2: I love Master of None. Yeah. Currently, we are starting
Speaker 2: into sale season, so basically every week for the next
Speaker 2: two months, we're gonna be talking about new sales every
Speaker 2: single week. The first one we were talking about tonight
Speaker 2: is Indicator. They've started their fall sale and it is
Speaker 2: live until the fifth of November and New UK time
Speaker 2: some really Gate really great not really Gate really great
Speaker 2: deals on their website. They're also doing this Golden ticket
Speaker 2: giveaway thing where they're giving away a golden ticket every day,
Speaker 2: plus choosing ten winners to get their cart for free.
Speaker 2: Lots of gimmicks to the sale, but good prices, like overall,
Speaker 2: their their standard editions are only like six pounds or
Speaker 2: something like that for many of them. Box sets really great.
Speaker 2: They did go slightly vinegar syndrome ish on this one
Speaker 2: with some bundles. I think it's kind of smart, but
Speaker 2: they yeah, check them out. They've got like a four
Speaker 2: K bundle which is literally like ten of the four
Speaker 2: K releases. I don't remember how much it was, but
Speaker 2: it worked out to where they were each like twenty
Speaker 2: twenty ish pounds twenty something like that.
Speaker 3: They had the whole genre on set.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you really just want to go, you
Speaker 3: know now that you can get them all, I think,
Speaker 3: though I don't know if Iron roses available yet as
Speaker 3: on their sale.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Probably not.
Speaker 3: But the only problem I have with is that the
Speaker 3: shipping is just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Unless you buy two hundred pounds worth, which is a lot.
Speaker 3: I'm not buying. I do like their little like the
Speaker 3: four for twenty four or whatever like that's that's nice
Speaker 3: to be able to mix those up and then get
Speaker 3: some limited editions and it it's nice, but there's just
Speaker 3: not a whole lot, Like I don't need all the
Speaker 3: Columbia now R movies I also have. You can't see it,
Speaker 3: but I'm running out of space, so I really have
Speaker 3: to be very specifical, and I only basically there's two
Speaker 3: roll on films I still need, which is The Escapees
Speaker 3: and Rick whim for Vampire and Thirst. Well that's not rollant,
Speaker 3: but like I wanted Thirst.
Speaker 2: Right, I do like the prices, and Jim Marwood comments here,
Speaker 2: I have seventeen titles in my cart and was shipping
Speaker 2: it to one hundred and thirty five bucks. That's not awful.
Speaker 2: And that's even with the across the pond shipping, because
Speaker 2: that's not free shipping yet. So free shipping in US
Speaker 2: dollars is like you got to spend literally like two
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy dollars or something like that, which is
Speaker 2: crazy pants money.
Speaker 3: Or I could order just martyrs from the Halloween sale
Speaker 3: of Eureka and get free shipping.
Speaker 2: Well, Eureka is not doing free shipping anymore.
Speaker 3: What when did this happen?
Speaker 2: About two weeks ago?
Speaker 3: Ryan people learn ness with me about everything. And this
Speaker 3: is the thing.
Speaker 2: I put I posted in the discord. I I keep
Speaker 2: trying to get you in there, you know, in the Discord.
Speaker 2: By the way, Carrie Mulligan love this joke. If I
Speaker 2: win a golden ticket, maybe I can probably get my
Speaker 2: grandpa out of bed. He can get up already. He's
Speaker 2: just a lazy bitch.
Speaker 3: He's a lazy bitch.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the next one.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The Great Outdoors is coming on four K from Keno
Speaker 2: lber here soon to the shock of nobody. We don't
Speaker 2: have released date yet, but it is the next John
Speaker 2: Candy film coming, Tarzi, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 3: You know, Ryan, I'm going to Albucino again. What you know,
Speaker 3: you have to do a little pizza pola guy. Okay,
Speaker 3: but you know there's this some artwork when you post
Speaker 3: something on Instagram and I see it, I don't have
Speaker 3: to drop down the menu to see it, says Keno.
Speaker 3: I know it's okay. I just know. The moment I
Speaker 3: see the title, I'm like, that's a Keymo battle. We
Speaker 3: don't know if it's gonna be four K because like,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, we got a plan on making
Speaker 3: our money back.
Speaker 2: So that was like that was like if Arnie worked
Speaker 2: at a RAM and stand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm off my Tarzi. I haven't watched the the
Speaker 3: shelf Rewind or what is it called. I don't know
Speaker 3: the name of the show. Is the zoom meeting that
Speaker 3: gets televised, I don't know.
Speaker 2: The shelf Rewind. That's my awards shop.
Speaker 3: I know. I just realized as it came out of.
Speaker 2: My mouth, it's amazing.
Speaker 3: All right, let's let you go again.
Speaker 2: His don't I've never watched a single episode Off the Shelf,
Speaker 2: Tails from the.
Speaker 3: Shelf, Heals from the Shelf, elf on the Shelf. I
Speaker 3: don't Heath on the shelf. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You weren't supposed to say his name.
Speaker 3: I meant like Heath bar Okay.
Speaker 2: Next January thirteenth, Sony is releasing Thunderhearts on four K.
Speaker 2: And it's not a steel book. It is literally just
Speaker 2: a four K case with a slipcover. And I feel
Speaker 2: like they went, oh, everybody died from this movie. Let's
Speaker 2: make some money. Val Kilmer, Sam Shepard, Graham Green star
Speaker 2: in this one. A new four K restoration approved by
Speaker 2: cinematographer who is the one and only mister Roger Deakins.
Speaker 2: And it is with Dolby Vision and HDR. No new extras,
Speaker 2: but they poured it over. The audio commentary from the
Speaker 2: screenwriter Ryan.
Speaker 3: This does not Starvlcilmer. This star is in Madame Tussau's
Speaker 3: wax museum statue at mel Kilmer.
Speaker 2: Quite quite filtered.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's so filtered. He looks like what's his name
Speaker 3: from the fault in our Stars. That's what he looks like,
Speaker 3: a little bit, which makes me want to punch my screen.
Speaker 3: It's true, one of the most punchable faces in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: I don't remember if I've ever seen Thunderhart.
Speaker 3: Have you seen Thunderhart?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I mean it's I I remember this is a VHS
Speaker 3: video store staple and I saw it, and I just
Speaker 3: look you Thunderheart's not competing with RoboCop or Creditor, right
Speaker 3: or anything like. It's just you know, it's just it's
Speaker 3: just out of reach.
Speaker 4: It's just it's not there's no Sigal, there's no truck Norris,
Speaker 4: there's not even like a there's just no. I was like,
Speaker 4: unless Valkilmer is in a jet with Tom Cruise, It's
Speaker 4: like it just wasn't my thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean even that wasn't really my thing.
Speaker 3: But you just don't like the military.
Speaker 2: That's true. Uh, be Sidelo animal says vel Filter. No,
Speaker 2: judge that's pretty good. Uh, and then Jim, Uh, yeah.
Speaker 2: They did just release the Blu ray for this very recently.
Speaker 3: There's a two and Graham Green is like not even
Speaker 3: wanting to be a part of this. He's looking off.
Speaker 3: He's like, get the shotgun in front of my face.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's it's pretty true. The Blu ray for this came
Speaker 2: out in May of twenty twenty four, and they're like,
Speaker 2: you know what, let's do it on four K.
Speaker 8: I would love I just want to be a fly
Speaker 8: on the wall for like one of these meetings, like
Speaker 8: the writings like we don't know if physical media is
Speaker 8: going to be making us money, and it's like, guys,
Speaker 8: but let's talk about Thunderheart even better.
Speaker 2: They released Underheart on Blu ray and it sold so
Speaker 2: well that they were like, oh, people want this, let's
Speaker 2: put it on four K.
Speaker 3: What if only? That would then caused and be like, guys,
Speaker 3: what else do we have in our catalog?
Speaker 2: If only?
Speaker 3: And yet they don't. I don't get it.
Speaker 2: To be fair, Sony has been one of the best
Speaker 2: studios about that. It shouldn't rag on them too much.
Speaker 2: It's it's the Disneys that were really talking about.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, but there's still plenty that Sony could
Speaker 3: put out that is still.
Speaker 2: Not oh absolutely that way.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, pick up the pick up the pace.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about Monda Micabro. Their Halloween sale is
Speaker 2: on now. It went live this morning. It is going
Speaker 2: on until I think it's the second or the third.
Speaker 2: Does it say on here? It does not. The titles
Speaker 2: that we're talking about this week, we got a few
Speaker 2: to cover. First, one is Island of the Damned aka
Speaker 2: Island of the Dead aka man Eater of Hydra from
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven. And this has like five more also
Speaker 2: known as aliases. I know you're dying to see this one.
Speaker 3: Every time they're like get rhetoric from Mondo Micawber's announcements.
Speaker 3: I go, I see, I see movies I've never heard of,
Speaker 3: Like they will never I promise you never announced something
Speaker 3: I've ever heard of.
Speaker 2: You not heard of Cafe Flesh before it was you know.
Speaker 3: You were going to bring that up. I feel like
Speaker 3: when you when they got announced and you talked about it,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like I've seen that title, like
Speaker 3: I've seen the poster, but I never knew what it.
Speaker 2: Was correct this other movie, Doctor Kelligary.
Speaker 3: I know the original one well obviously, but I don't
Speaker 3: know about this. No, really, I have looked through. I've
Speaker 3: never gone, oh they put out that movie never like
Speaker 3: they are when people talk about deep cuts. I feel
Speaker 3: like this is one of the last vestages of like
Speaker 3: a label that goes deep.
Speaker 2: Mada Macabro and Deaf Crocodile will be facing each other
Speaker 2: in the cage match of most obscure titles.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think like I think Unearthed got knocked out
Speaker 3: a little bit when they started putting out stuff. It's
Speaker 3: like I've heard that, yeah, yeah, I know that one,
Speaker 3: like the massage, the massuse or whatever it was or
Speaker 3: deep tissue or whatever it's called. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Swedish stones.
Speaker 3: Aka Cruise his ex wife aka yeah, yeah, no it's
Speaker 3: or wasn't he also the bartender in Cocktail?
Speaker 2: I think? So can you tell me that.
Speaker 3: Other bartender in Cocktail is given cru his ex wife
Speaker 3: a massage? Wow, that's not talked about.
Speaker 2: Sorry, loand of the Doomed four K restoration from the
Speaker 2: best thirty five millimeter materials. You've got the Spanish or
Speaker 2: English audio here, You've got an interview with the writer
Speaker 2: director Mel Wells. Audio commentary by David Flint. Documentary in
Speaker 2: the Career of George Martin. Documentary had horror films produced
Speaker 2: in the coastal coast of Brava area. And then of
Speaker 2: course there is because it's a red case. You have
Speaker 2: a booklet here with Lobby Card Reproductions, twelve hundred of
Speaker 2: those limited check it out.
Speaker 3: I will say they never they never skimp on the artwork.
Speaker 3: I always mondo other than the fact that I'm a
Speaker 3: good sucker for anything that's like this hasn't been seen
Speaker 3: in forty years, right, Like, I'm always like it's one
Speaker 3: of those like Judge book by its cover. I'm always like,
Speaker 3: I kind of want that just because the artist. Damn
Speaker 3: yea it is true. Yeah. So that's that.
Speaker 2: We've got I think one or two more to cover
Speaker 2: from them tonight. Some big titles from studios, uh not
Speaker 2: Sony All the President's Men coming on four K steel
Speaker 2: book here soon from Warner Brothers. It'll likely get a
Speaker 2: standard but uh, but we only have a steel book
Speaker 2: revealed so far. This is not the final artwork, of course,
Speaker 2: and this will be released supposedly in January or February Yeah.
Speaker 3: It'll be a photoshopped image of Dustin Hoffman and h
Speaker 3: Robert Redford, Robert Redford just hovering over a typewriter. That
Speaker 3: never Yeah, and that'll be that, and they'll be de aged,
Speaker 3: they'll be they'll be so polished over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll look like them.
Speaker 3: Yes, what's like? Well, Jack Nicholson was in a cage
Speaker 3: for one for of the Cuckoo's Nest, So like, is
Speaker 3: it gonna be a newspaper with their faces on it?
Speaker 2: Or it'll be it'll be the five guys standing in
Speaker 2: front of the Lincoln Memorial. Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: This cover right after that. Oh my god, that's SuperFect.
Speaker 3: I almost seen any of these These people know they've
Speaker 3: were in this movie.
Speaker 2: January sixth, Catchup Entertainment, which got some success notoriety respect
Speaker 2: earlier this year for signing onto the Lost Warner Brothers
Speaker 2: Acme Looney Tunes film. They are putting out Afterburn from
Speaker 2: this year, starring what I think is supposed to be
Speaker 2: Dave Bautista. What is this swollen, weird head?
Speaker 3: No, if that's his head, I mean you think Dave
Speaker 3: Batiza has a more cylindrical head.
Speaker 2: He's got a slightly more cylindrical head, and his nose
Speaker 2: does not take up forty percent of his face yet.
Speaker 3: No, the nose is off and his hair is more
Speaker 3: like like a g I. Joe figure's hair, Like it's
Speaker 3: not real.
Speaker 2: They spray painted off like chia pet hair on him.
Speaker 3: And I'm actually a surprised catchup entertainment is still going.
Speaker 3: I thought out of business. I thought they went bankrupt.
Speaker 2: No, that was their sibling relish Jesus Christ Ryan.
Speaker 3: Man Uh, because they put out that god awful Ben
Speaker 3: Affleck Robert Rodriguez film that I had to say, Oh.
Speaker 2: God, what was the name of that?
Speaker 3: It was? It's like reflection, rebound, retribution?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 3: Redaction? Redaction, regurgitation, reflec. Someone's gonna know it. I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna respect enough to look it up.
Speaker 2: Hit him not, Paul.
Speaker 3: I hope you did not waste any time looking that up.
Speaker 3: I hope you just knew off the top of your head.
Speaker 2: Watch Paul's like, it's my favorite movie.
Speaker 3: And now that you've told us, you can now remove
Speaker 3: that from your brain and use it for something more useful.
Speaker 3: That movie is just no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, Dave Bautista looks weird. Yes, Sam
Speaker 2: Jackson doesn't even look like he knows that he's in
Speaker 2: this movie.
Speaker 3: He doesn't, he is. I don't think. I think Sam
Speaker 3: Jackson's been in retirement and he just comes out every
Speaker 3: now and again, just do a quick thing and then
Speaker 3: goes right back to retirement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that's enough.
Speaker 3: Damn day. It looks the same.
Speaker 2: Next up is the other of the big Warner Brothers titles.
Speaker 2: Coming soon is a four K steel book of ben Her.
Speaker 2: This is the the known prequel of ben Their.
Speaker 3: That was a dumb joke too, sorry, Lusine on the
Speaker 3: first is going to be ben her over.
Speaker 2: Uh weird copy on this, the copy that Warner Brothers
Speaker 2: is running with is the epic remake of nineteen twenty six.
Speaker 2: Film features Heston as the title character, a wealthy jew
Speaker 2: whose former childhood friend a Roman, causes him to lose everything.
Speaker 2: He eventually gets his revenge of the film spectacular Chariot
Speaker 2: Race and that's it this.
Speaker 3: This was written by Stephen Miller and Behold a White
Speaker 3: Horse as name was death.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's this is one of those that, like,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of shocked was not on four k already.
Speaker 3: I will be. I'm gonna shamefull admit. It's one of
Speaker 3: the best picture winners I have not seen.
Speaker 2: I get it. I don't love it. It's it's not
Speaker 2: my style of film.
Speaker 3: I'm not a big Hessen fan. Yeah, I mean either,
Speaker 3: he's not as bad as John Wayne, but he's It's
Speaker 3: just one of those guys that like really ran the
Speaker 3: gamut in terms of his looks. Yeah and nothing. It
Speaker 3: was just like I am Charleston as I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2: Is that your child to us?
Speaker 3: Just take it? Take it down. Just notch my friend.
Speaker 3: You're at in the eleven right now from my cold
Speaker 3: dead hands.
Speaker 2: Speaking of cold dead hands, let's go to our next title.
Speaker 2: Our next title is Southpaw. This is coming on four
Speaker 2: K steel book here in the US on December ninth
Speaker 2: from Lionsgate, and it's an Amazon exclusive, so at least
Speaker 2: some people can pick this up rather than just the
Speaker 2: people stuck on the Lionsgate Limited site. We've got South
Speaker 2: Paw Inside the Ring, Q and A with Jake, Jill
Speaker 2: A Hall, fifty cent and Oragel McAdams and more, extended
Speaker 2: training montage, de leaded scene, statical trailer and all of
Speaker 2: that is carry over bonus features.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about Southpaw. I'm going to ask
Speaker 3: you first, how do you feel about this artwork?
Speaker 2: I think it's very weird. Yeah, I think the the
Speaker 2: like did.
Speaker 3: They put the Dogmas slip on top of a boxing movie?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it feels like first of all. And
Speaker 2: then like the CGI Jake Chillenhall on the bed is
Speaker 2: kind of weird.
Speaker 3: Is it CG or is it just one of those
Speaker 3: like that's the style of art of making some.
Speaker 2: Oh well that and it might be like the Mexi
Speaker 2: funk vector style of graphic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I figured it was. I I've seen the move.
Speaker 3: Have you seen the movie?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a long time ago.
Speaker 3: I don't remember religion playing a huge part in it
Speaker 3: as far as like being the front and center of
Speaker 3: his Uh yeah, seriously carrymell.
Speaker 2: Not at all, not at all.
Speaker 3: Also, it is famous for being the trailer that gave
Speaker 3: like for no reason. It's not because it just gives
Speaker 3: away part of the movie. And it's not like the
Speaker 3: first five minutes where it's just like, well, this is
Speaker 3: the catalyst, so of course it's gonna be like this
Speaker 3: straight up just spoils the movie.
Speaker 2: Yep, either way. I mean directed by Antoine Fuqua, written
Speaker 2: by Kurt Sutter. Kurt is the mastermind behind one of
Speaker 2: my favorite shows of all time. I I don't know.
Speaker 2: I probably need to watch this again. I haven't seen
Speaker 2: it since it came out. I I just don't love
Speaker 2: boxing movies, which makes me worried about Christy that's about
Speaker 2: to come out.
Speaker 3: I love me a good boxing movie, especially if it's
Speaker 3: like I can't guess the outcome, like if it's based
Speaker 3: on real story and I really don't know what happened,
Speaker 3: because if it's fake, they're gonna make them win. Except
Speaker 3: for I.
Speaker 2: Really loved that that uh that that movie with the
Speaker 2: rock this year then.
Speaker 3: Right, oh, don't get me starting. You not get me
Speaker 3: start on that? You not you not get me started
Speaker 3: on that thing? Holy no oh no. But Cinderella man.
Speaker 3: I love Cinderella man, I.
Speaker 2: Really really did I get it? I like Ali Ali
Speaker 2: is great.
Speaker 3: It's not the best Michael Man, but it's I think
Speaker 3: it's definitely for me. It's will one of Will Smith's
Speaker 3: best performances.
Speaker 2: And it's one of those Michael Man movies where if
Speaker 2: it was almost any other director, it would be their
Speaker 2: best film, But because it's Michael Mann, you're like, eh.
Speaker 3: That's how I thought about The Terminal. Yeah, if someone
Speaker 3: like Rob Reiner directed the Drum and be like, oh,
Speaker 3: he's back at it, He's yeah, you know, he's back
Speaker 3: to his classic thing. But it's like Spielberg. It's like,
Speaker 3: what Spielberg this is? That's all he could do? This
Speaker 3: is beneath you, right, Yeah, it's not South Bust not However,
Speaker 3: Jake Jonaha of god Man, that man can just really
Speaker 3: get into shape.
Speaker 2: I want to see some some love for Night Crawler
Speaker 2: coming out from around this time. That movie is a masterpiece.
Speaker 3: Night Crawler is parabout universal.
Speaker 2: I think that might also be lions Kate.
Speaker 3: I mmmmm, I feel like I'm lean. Deorge Paul probably
Speaker 3: is gonna tell us, but it's Universal is universal Because
Speaker 3: I just sold a copy the other day on.
Speaker 2: My incredible movie. I would love to see that get
Speaker 2: some sort of deluxe wonderful release with like new extras
Speaker 2: and all that. I adore that film. M hm, All right,
Speaker 2: enough about Jake Chillenhall. Lions Gate Limited is having one
Speaker 2: of their warehouse. We found some stuff sales, and yes
Speaker 2: you can get them on sale for the price that
Speaker 2: they used to be if you put in the code
Speaker 2: five off Halloween all in caps at checkout, they had
Speaker 2: House of a thousand corpses, the Miss Spirals, saw The
Speaker 2: Strangers chapter one, the Cabin in the Woods, Warm Bodies,
Speaker 2: The Blackening, the Wickerman, the hurt Locker, and quite a
Speaker 2: few of these sold out within like eight minutes, So
Speaker 2: if you were after some of these, I'm sorry if
Speaker 2: you missed them. But the other thing, some people were
Speaker 2: posting online that they bought from the last warehouse sale
Speaker 2: and they are true, like we found these in a
Speaker 2: dank box in the corner and good luck because there
Speaker 2: are no returns and these might be really shitty, so
Speaker 2: buy at your own risk type of things on these.
Speaker 3: So you snagged The Strangers chapter one, first thing, right.
Speaker 2: I got one for me and one for you. It's
Speaker 2: on the way already.
Speaker 3: I guess we can suffer alone, can we? No?
Speaker 2: I was planning on waiting to talk about that because
Speaker 2: we got The Strangers chapter two to talk about. Now.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love how I pressured you to have to
Speaker 3: go watch the chapter one and I skipped chapter two.
Speaker 3: And you're like, I've said, I saw someone make a comment.
Speaker 3: I think it was. It had to because I'm not
Speaker 3: on any other social media, so it must been Instagram.
Speaker 3: But it was like an image. It was like a
Speaker 3: screenshot from the movie, and I was like, wait, how
Speaker 3: does this happen? Anyway, We'll get to it when we
Speaker 3: get to it.
Speaker 2: I will shit on that movie again when we get there.
Speaker 3: Wonderful.
Speaker 2: Got some podcasts to talk about tonight. I usually don't
Speaker 2: post about many of these, but Crocodiles will. We talked
Speaker 2: about one of their titles. The first one was I
Speaker 2: was on the Never Did It podcast. They are doing
Speaker 2: a piece on animation right now, some best animation from
Speaker 2: like certain decades. I covered two films from the nineties,
Speaker 2: Fella Day and the amazing Don Blue film Anastasia, and
Speaker 2: then we.
Speaker 3: I was about to ask us like the did this
Speaker 3: like Scatcat have a cousin Pastagia? Isn't it Okay?
Speaker 2: It is Anastagia? And then then we picked our favorite
Speaker 2: animated films of the nineties. It's fun episode, check it out.
Speaker 2: And then also I was just on the Tumbleweeds and
Speaker 2: TV Cowboys podcast with a dear friend of the show,
Speaker 2: mister Hunter Robinson, and then Zach from They Live My
Speaker 2: film was on there as well. We talked about Bone
Speaker 2: Tomahawk and most of us don't love that movie, but
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: But well, I just want to say I'm hearing everything
Speaker 3: you're saying. Mister Wright's stuff said. Bogonia currently has a
Speaker 3: four point zero on letterbox, which just makes me want
Speaker 3: to see it more.
Speaker 2: I am dying to see.
Speaker 3: Every time someone shits on a movie like that, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I know, the masses were like, I don't get it.
Speaker 3: In Mike, I'm gonna love this movie.
Speaker 2: Well. And the bigger thing, which I don't understand why
Speaker 2: this is happening with Pogonia because it's it's a he's
Speaker 2: kind of a like would you say, he's a well known,
Speaker 2: like named director of the point.
Speaker 3: Only because everyone went to go see the movie that
Speaker 3: everyone was like, oh.
Speaker 2: Poor things.
Speaker 3: They saw four Things and I'm like, I get this,
Speaker 3: but then it's like, you know, they go back. It's
Speaker 3: like it's like David Lynch. People saw whatever it was,
Speaker 3: Mahandra like I'm gonna go back, or they saw Twin
Speaker 3: Peaks and they're like I'm gonna go back and wait, wait,
Speaker 3: what is this right? They don't they don't really educate
Speaker 3: themselves on it. So like I love the last one,
Speaker 3: they did kinds of kindness and people shit all over
Speaker 3: it because and this is what drives me the same
Speaker 3: When people say I just want to go to the
Speaker 3: movies and turn my brain off for a little while, Mike,
Speaker 3: I will argue that there is no way your brain
Speaker 3: is on the rest of the time. Just no. All
Speaker 3: you goes saying I turned my brain on, like it's
Speaker 3: off all the time.
Speaker 2: What I was getting at, I don't understand how Bigonia
Speaker 2: is making the rounds and even through all the press
Speaker 2: and all that, they're not talking about the fact that
Speaker 2: this is a remake of Save the Green Planet. Everybody
Speaker 2: should know that, and everybody should see Save the Green Planet.
Speaker 2: It is absolutely worth.
Speaker 3: The watch, so I wouldn't have known that.
Speaker 2: Check it out either way. We'll talk about podcast again
Speaker 2: in just a moment, but first, the next of the
Speaker 2: Mondo Macabro titles that has been announced is a Blu
Speaker 2: Ray release of os Wong aka The Unearthing, also known
Speaker 2: as ass Wang as many people call it. This is
Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety four, and this is a crazy movie
Speaker 2: because it's an American film, but It's a take on
Speaker 2: Filipino folk core. And they had released this on DVD before.
Speaker 2: This was desperately in need of an upgrade to HD.
Speaker 2: This will look great, good movie, new four K restoration
Speaker 2: from the original sixteen milimeter negative. We've got some great
Speaker 2: extras on here. Cannot wait to see this one in person.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I like this movie.
Speaker 3: It's in my cart I'm deciding to get it. And
Speaker 3: that looks like well, by.
Speaker 2: The way, that's funny, and no silent. I don't believe
Speaker 2: Save the Green Planet is streaming anywhere. Next up is
Speaker 2: a couple of sibners favorite types of films now vail
Speaker 2: long and bluter in the US from Tarnished Vision Films
Speaker 2: Difficulty Breathing from twenty seventeen. This is a underground gore
Speaker 2: film directed by somebody named Guy Guy. This is forty
Speaker 2: one minutes long, and that is it. There is eighty
Speaker 2: of the limited slipcover releases and twenty of the standard edition,
Speaker 2: so technically the standard edition is more rare and limited
Speaker 2: than the limited edition.
Speaker 3: Ryan, the movie's so short it makes my stories look long.
Speaker 3: I am there you go. Well, that's how you're supposed
Speaker 3: to do it. I can rag them myself better than
Speaker 3: you can.
Speaker 2: So if you're into this type of film, nice there
Speaker 2: is out somewhere he probably is. If you're into this
Speaker 2: type of film like Sibiner is, just so you know.
Speaker 2: The story here says subject of a violent attack, a
Speaker 2: young woman becomes recluse. As her fear to leave home escalates,
Speaker 2: her paranoia begins to run wild. Now immersed within a
Speaker 2: pool of self nurtured insanity, she slowly starts to drown.
Speaker 3: Why are you insulting me?
Speaker 2: Because it's fun? Well, of course, go ahead, of course,
Speaker 2: these coming pairs. So we had to get a dead
Speaker 2: baby on the cover, because that's what these types of
Speaker 2: films get on a four. The other type of movie
Speaker 2: that they do is a crazy name, and this one
Speaker 2: is Argon Argonomenon from twenty twenty two, and this says,
Speaker 2: in the not too distant future, the last remaining man
Speaker 2: tries to find a cure for the disease that wiped
Speaker 2: out humanity and start a new form of life, but
Speaker 2: the disease of his own is making his task difficult.
Speaker 3: It's called I Am Syphilis.
Speaker 2: You can get these both on Tarnishvisionfilms dot com and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna click away from this because no, thank you.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna say the first artwork though, looks like
Speaker 3: full on I'm getting James Obar vibes, Like that's the crow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that, like youally, like.
Speaker 3: The line on the mouth is drawn like it looks
Speaker 3: like James Abar a bit. Yeah. Anyway, well I.
Speaker 2: Had accidentally double clicked over this one. There is a
Speaker 2: sale happening on the Deaf Crocodile website right now. This
Speaker 2: is going on until tomorrow at noon Pacific time. It
Speaker 2: is fifty percent of all in stock standard editions, which
Speaker 2: some of them have sold out in their handful, which
Speaker 2: are close to selling out. But there's a brand new
Speaker 2: printing of Heroic Times which also comes with the slip cover,
Speaker 2: and even that is on sale. And then Alurane and
Speaker 2: a Student of Prague, which sold out the limited edition
Speaker 2: already that is available as a standard edition, which is
Speaker 2: also on sale right now. Really great prices. Check it out.
Speaker 2: Good sale, And it's deff Crocodile's first sale ever. What
Speaker 2: is that image from this one?
Speaker 6: Is?
Speaker 3: I believe that is from.
Speaker 2: Why can I not think of the name God, I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I've seen all of their films. They're
Speaker 2: all blurring together, like.
Speaker 3: I feel like, I don't know. I guess from the
Speaker 3: breakdown of what I usually hear when you describe like
Speaker 3: deaf crocodile, it doesn't look like a deaf crocodile film.
Speaker 2: I mean, they do all kinds of Oh, it is
Speaker 2: from Solomon King, that's the title. I never remember the
Speaker 2: word Solomon. I wanted to say Cherry King for some reason.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's from Solomon King.
Speaker 3: Okay, well sounds good.
Speaker 2: YEP. Check it out. Next mon of Macbro. Title is
Speaker 2: a four K release of Inquisition. This is the fifth
Speaker 2: of the five announcements for their sale. This is an
Speaker 2: upgrade to a Blu ray that they had released previously.
Speaker 2: They finally got access to the OCN for this. The
Speaker 2: Blu ray was just from the best elements, so this
Speaker 2: is going to look remarkably better, guaranteed. We get a
Speaker 2: new interview with Sergio Molina, who I gotta say. It's
Speaker 2: always weird when somebody, somebody I don't want to use
Speaker 2: the word famous, but like well known or attached to
Speaker 2: the film reposts my announcement. Sergio Molina himself reposted my
Speaker 2: announcement for this film on Twitter and said my dad's
Speaker 2: movies coming to four K, and I was like, your
Speaker 2: dad is Paul fucking Nashi. This is crazy, this is weird.
Speaker 2: So yeah, new interview with him, new interview with the
Speaker 2: actress Loretta Tavar. There's an introduction by Paul Nashi that
Speaker 2: is archival obviously, new interview with the actress Daniella or
Speaker 2: sorry not new interview. An interview with the actress Daniella Giordano,
Speaker 2: audio commentary by Nashi, cast Rod Barnett and Troy Gwynn.
Speaker 2: And then there is the exclusive slipcover attached to this
Speaker 2: as well. Fifteen hundred copies. Good release, good film.
Speaker 3: Oh about to ask gave he's a good I've never
Speaker 3: seen it.
Speaker 2: It is good. It's the big thing is it's Nashi's
Speaker 2: first film that he directed. Ah Ok and Manta Micabro
Speaker 2: are like the king of Paul Nashi stuff, so it
Speaker 2: is absolutely worth checking out.
Speaker 3: Gotcha, Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: Next up is from Cult Films over in the UK.
Speaker 2: They are putting out the Battle of Algiers from nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty six on Blu ray on November tenth, not on
Speaker 2: four K. This is a quite old four K restoration
Speaker 2: that's being used for this, so my thought probably don't
Speaker 2: buy this. This is undoubtedly going to be getting a
Speaker 2: UHD release eventually. And if you love this movie, yeah,
Speaker 2: from from them, from somebody else in the UK, from
Speaker 2: somebody in Australia. Yeah, like this this is begging to
Speaker 2: be one hundred and twelve dollars imprint.
Speaker 3: Title because it is referenced in one battle after another,
Speaker 3: right yep, so.
Speaker 2: Which I almost feel like they rushed this out, yeah,
Speaker 2: to capitalize on that. Maybe lots lots of extras on here,
Speaker 2: but it is old extras and doesn't take away from
Speaker 2: them or anything like that. Just saying if you love
Speaker 2: the movie. And also the spine is backwards. It's one
Speaker 2: of those weird titles where.
Speaker 3: It's the shelf. People are going to be upset.
Speaker 2: It's true. And then early twenty six we are getting
Speaker 2: a BLU ray in the UK from Signature Entertainment of
Speaker 2: Ice Fall from twenty twenty five, the brand new Joel
Speaker 2: Kinneman film Everybody Is Crawling over each Other to get
Speaker 2: Too quick Enough, also starring Graham Green in this one.
Speaker 3: Hmmm, yeah, I could not tell you that was Joel
Speaker 3: Kimmen Like twenty three percent of it, Like from the
Speaker 3: left of the bow looks like Sebastian stan yep, and
Speaker 3: the other right like it just doesn't. This looks like
Speaker 3: someone took like a tomb Raider cover and mixed it
Speaker 3: with like a snowboarding game from the early two thousands.
Speaker 2: This to me looks like if they got Jason Statham
Speaker 2: to star in a Vertical Limit remake.
Speaker 3: Mmm, okay, which we'll probably now it's gonna look at
Speaker 3: this they're watching because of our movie ideas. Later they
Speaker 3: are gonna like they're this grat they're snatching these little puppies,
Speaker 3: little nuggets up along the way.
Speaker 2: Reggie the Jazz says, I love a good snowmobile plane
Speaker 2: crash movie. I want to see that letterbox list, Reggie,
Speaker 2: go make that please. It's what we got, true lies,
Speaker 2: we got ice fall.
Speaker 3: What else?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, touche touche.
Speaker 3: I think for your Eyes only has one.
Speaker 2: At least one. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. My only question is why where is Liam Neeson
Speaker 3: in the poster?
Speaker 2: They're still filming him to hop over that fence from
Speaker 2: taking seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's required to be in these movies.
Speaker 2: Any filmed with the word ice in it. In twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six, he has to be in. Yeah, speaking of
Speaker 2: old people in movies, Eleanor the Great coming on Blu
Speaker 2: ray from Sony Pictures Classics on November twenty fifth. I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed this movie. Did you get a chance to
Speaker 2: see this one? Not?
Speaker 3: And I do like June squib and I need to
Speaker 3: see it.
Speaker 2: She's so good and this movie, Like God, I did
Speaker 2: not expect this movie to be what it ended up being.
Speaker 2: Definitely literally cried in the theater and yeah, love this movie.
Speaker 2: Check it out if you like June Squibber, I've never
Speaker 2: seen anything. This is a really good entry into June
Speaker 2: squib too. Because of the subject matter, it's extra point in.
Speaker 2: It's just it's great, all right, one that I've been
Speaker 2: hearing about for a while. November eleventh, we're getting a
Speaker 2: Blu ray finally from well Go USA of Daniella Forever
Speaker 2: from last year. I assume you've not seen this one.
Speaker 3: I have not seen. Well, I'll let you finish before
Speaker 3: I start going to my little rants.
Speaker 2: At this cover here, I mean, the cover makes sense
Speaker 2: for what the film is. It says, grieving the loss
Speaker 2: of his girlfriend Daniella, Nicholas is consumed by sorrow. He
Speaker 2: sees a glimmer of hope when he's offered a chance
Speaker 2: to participate in a groundbreaking sleep therapy that simulates reality,
Speaker 2: but his dream and memory blurr. He must confront what
Speaker 2: healing really means whether he's ready to let go the
Speaker 2: Nicholas in this is Henry Golding, who was great a
Speaker 2: few years ago in Crazy Rich Asians. But the big
Speaker 2: thing the director of this not Jovi Glando, the guy
Speaker 2: that did time crimes. So h, what's the problem with
Speaker 2: the cover?
Speaker 3: Well, if you are a photoshopper and you somehow manage
Speaker 3: to make Henry Golding look average or unattractive, you have
Speaker 3: failed at your job. You should have really failed like
Speaker 3: this should not. This was a softball pitch and they
Speaker 3: screwed up. Also, Daniella should have I believe two l's
Speaker 3: all this looks like is my name that they didn't
Speaker 3: put a space screen because my middle name is Andrew,
Speaker 3: So it just looks like someone typed out my name
Speaker 3: and just forgot to put up a space there.
Speaker 2: To be fair, I've never seen the word Daniella with
Speaker 2: two l's.
Speaker 3: What it used to be like the kids thing is
Speaker 3: like if you called me or any boy named Daniel Daniella.
Speaker 3: That was like the way you got you made fun of.
Speaker 2: I got called rheann, especially after Letha or yeah, Leith
Speaker 2: a weapon.
Speaker 3: Oh because you were a kid in the eighties.
Speaker 2: Essentially, Okay, all right, Next is from MVD rewind Blu
Speaker 2: Ray on February twenty fourth. We are getting Force five
Speaker 2: from nineteen eighty one, and for some reason they didn't
Speaker 2: ask my friend Jason Kleeberg to do a commentary. The
Speaker 2: the the host of the Force five podcast. Come on,
Speaker 2: this is going to have a bunch of archival interviews.
Speaker 2: Have you seen Force five?
Speaker 3: Just because they are forced to be reckoned with? And
Speaker 3: there are five as in one, two, three, four, five
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 2: I would assume counting happens in this film.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, what are they are? They? Are they foxing?
Speaker 3: Where's the fox?
Speaker 2: It? It does say five against one thousand, The odds
Speaker 2: are even.
Speaker 3: I have to imagine that Tarantino did use this as
Speaker 3: reference except for the name of Fox Force five.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would assume.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, like I've watched movies, like if you ever
Speaker 3: watched it obscure eighties movie, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: here a line you're like, that is a direct line
Speaker 3: from a Tarantin Like, You're like, oh my god, I
Speaker 3: just found a weird line that he pulled from a
Speaker 3: movie that he basically thought no one would ever see.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh wow, busted.
Speaker 2: Nobody was ever going to see it, and then Vineger
Speaker 2: Syndrome put it out on four K in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: Dude, I saw a Charles Bronson movie where someone makes
Speaker 3: someone makes a reference from FULK fiction. I'm like, holy shit,
Speaker 3: I feel like I just caught someone cheating.
Speaker 2: Like, I like, wow, you know what's cheating? When Universal
Speaker 2: decides to release films that definitely feel like they should
Speaker 2: have been on a Keno Lorber release, and they're doing
Speaker 2: this four times in a row. December second, the first
Speaker 2: one they're putting out Claunette Coldbear in I Met Him
Speaker 2: in Paris from nineteen thirty seven, that same day, Claudette
Speaker 2: Colbert in Nat of Salem from nineteen thirty seven, that
Speaker 2: same day Claudette Colbert in Zaza from nineteen thirty nine,
Speaker 2: and that same day Claudette Colbert in Skylark from nineteen
Speaker 2: forty one. I like, it's wild to me that this
Speaker 2: isn't the Claudette Colbert Collection Volume one from Keno.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I hear what you're saying. I'm going more Warner.
Speaker 2: Archive their Universal title.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, but they look like Warner Archives.
Speaker 2: Which is why it should be Keno Releases, because the
Speaker 2: other studios don't really do this, except for when Sony
Speaker 2: does it on a Frank Kaeper box set.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know it, put it out and don't
Speaker 3: buy them, So what am I gonna? What am I
Speaker 3: gonna do?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Then we put them in supplies last and then no
Speaker 3: one buys them, then they go out of print. Then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, there two hundred dollars on eBay.
Speaker 2: So conspiracy theory in my mind. I wonder if Universal
Speaker 2: got like the sales numbers on some of the stuff
Speaker 2: that they've licensed to Keto and they went, oh, you
Speaker 2: sold four thousand of these for nine ninety nine, why
Speaker 2: don't we just release these ourselves?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I mean there's definitely an audience for these films, I.
Speaker 2: Mean absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3: I can't I can't believe it took them this long,
Speaker 3: and looking again at Keno or even Warner Arka like
Speaker 3: a direct studio putting out their stuff clearly there's a
Speaker 3: demand for this, like kind of Golden age studio, you know,
Speaker 3: studio backed films.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and shout out to Brendon just he said, thanks
Speaker 2: for the tip on the Deaf Crocodile sale. The Patucco
Speaker 2: box set is only seventy five dollars on sale.
Speaker 3: I thought, I did. I skipped his the whole message
Speaker 3: all the way to seventy five. I said, you bought
Speaker 3: seventy five titles Deaf Crocodiles only released, like five would
Speaker 3: have seventy five not yet? Okay.
Speaker 2: In fact, I believe they are celebrating their fifth anniversary,
Speaker 2: like very very soon. So congrats Steph Crocodile. Who Craig
Speaker 2: is not here tonight. He's out carving pumpkins. And I
Speaker 2: do mean that literally.
Speaker 3: I wonder what it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Two more podcasts to talk about. The first is Wildside,
Speaker 2: the official Monda Macabre podcast hosted this episode, this time
Speaker 2: with yeared as usual to talk about the Halloween sale items.
Speaker 2: But the big story here mister Monda Micabra himself. Pete
Speaker 2: Tooms came on the show for the first time ever,
Speaker 2: and he does not do interviews. He does not do shows.
Speaker 2: He is usually too busy, like having a drinks with
Speaker 2: people from Indonesia to talk about the films that he
Speaker 2: can acquire, and instead he graced us with his presence
Speaker 2: and he was charming as fuck. You guys gotta go
Speaker 2: listen to this episode. It is super rare that you
Speaker 2: get to hear from him and it was great. And
Speaker 2: speaking of charming, I did my best to be charming
Speaker 2: on the newest episode of The Physical Therapy, a movie podcast.
Speaker 2: We talked about the original and the remake of Night
Speaker 2: of Living Dead. However, that was just kind of like
Speaker 2: the epilogue. Most of the episode was them just kind
Speaker 2: of geeking out that I was there, and we talked
Speaker 2: about disconnected stuff for a long time and physical media
Speaker 2: in general. They were pitching me problems with their hardware
Speaker 2: and how we could fix it, and it was quite funny.
Speaker 2: Go check it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you had the guy from Mano on before.
Speaker 2: Right, I've had Jared on, not Pete Toombs, gotcha. I
Speaker 2: thinkte Pete is the overseas guy. Jared is the US guy. Okay,
Speaker 2: Pete is like the one that is acquiring all the
Speaker 2: films and doing all the very film centric stuff. Jared
Speaker 2: is the one handling all of your death threats.
Speaker 3: So he never comes home.
Speaker 2: No, pretty much never.
Speaker 3: I got it.
Speaker 2: So now onto Sibb's favorite film. The Strain. Chapter two
Speaker 2: is getting a Blu ray release on December ninth. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's also getting a DVD released the same day. This
Speaker 2: is Lionsgate putting us out. They put out a four
Speaker 2: K steel book of the first film. But let's let's
Speaker 2: not be shocked. They are likely gonna put this out
Speaker 2: on four K on Lionsgate limited release. Knowing Lionsgate, they're
Speaker 2: gonna screw with all of you and it'll be a
Speaker 2: four K digipack and not a steal book, just so
Speaker 2: it doesn't match the first one. For people that love
Speaker 2: these movies. That being said, I would wait a little
Speaker 2: bit because it's probably gonna come out around the same time.
Speaker 2: There are at least twelve people that like this movie.
Speaker 3: Oh I know one of them was in this chat
Speaker 3: or are they here today?
Speaker 2: Maybe who said they liked it? I don't remember.
Speaker 3: They were folk. They were featured on lions Gate's fucking Instagram.
Speaker 2: Oh was it Dustin, Dustin? That's right.
Speaker 3: They really were like, we are gonna we are gonna
Speaker 3: make we are gonna make you synonymous with loving this movie.
Speaker 2: He he truly loved both of them.
Speaker 3: I don't doubt him loving it. I just don't get it.
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna get a DM from Dustin tomorrow morning
Speaker 2: when he watches this.
Speaker 3: I hope, I hope that one of your scripts that
Speaker 3: you're pitching tonight is Strangers chapter four.
Speaker 2: I wish I would have thought of that with a.
Speaker 3: Prediction of what chapter three will be based on what
Speaker 3: you saw, because I don't know, I didn't see it.
Speaker 2: I should have pitched The Strangers Pray at Dawn, which.
Speaker 3: I still haven't seen. The second one. The first one's masterpiece.
Speaker 3: I don't need anything else. The trailer alone got people scared,
Speaker 3: like no, I no, just one. It's all you need.
Speaker 2: Look at that. Carrie Bulligan even said, I wish they
Speaker 2: would have just released Pray at Night three years in
Speaker 2: a row.
Speaker 3: Probably. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Strangers chapter two, December ninth. I give it a big,
Speaker 2: hardy three thumbs down. Then Hammer. This is our final
Speaker 2: announcement for the week. Hammer putting out Whispering Smith Hits
Speaker 2: London from nineteen fifty two on four k over in
Speaker 2: the UK on December fifteenth. This is their last of
Speaker 2: their limited editions of this year, Jidon's Great Pray at Brunch.
Speaker 3: I love that. That's great.
Speaker 2: They are, you know, they're doing the whole alternating thing.
Speaker 2: One month they'll do the Giant box set. Next month
Speaker 2: will be the Slim box set. And this is the
Speaker 2: last of their Slim box sets.
Speaker 3: For the year.
Speaker 2: This is supposedly pretty good. It's got strong support from
Speaker 2: Greta Ghent, Herbert lom RONA Anderson, and Alan Wheatley. This
Speaker 2: has been restored in four K from the original negatives,
Speaker 2: all kinds of extras as usual, two new commentaries, interviews, appreciations,
Speaker 2: We've got nineteen to fifty documentary travelog from the Village
Speaker 2: of Bray, all kinds of new articles in their big book.
Speaker 2: In this kind of crazy what they do on these releases.
Speaker 2: But this looks truly, truly great. I kind of love
Speaker 2: that they're doing some of these small titles. I do
Speaker 2: wish they did more of like the Curse of Frankenstein
Speaker 2: level of titles from them as well. But now, I mean,
Speaker 2: now that they've done Quarter Miss, I just can't wait
Speaker 2: for the Four Cave Quarter Mess in the Pit because
Speaker 2: that movie is a masterpiece.
Speaker 3: This cover has got me all very confused. I'm having
Speaker 3: it's like I'm being pulled in two different directions because
Speaker 3: it's hammer, but it looks like the biggest Keino Noir.
Speaker 2: Did a lot of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, I'm not familiar with this title,
Speaker 3: so I can't say that that could be how it
Speaker 3: is it is. Yeah, I just I've never seen a
Speaker 3: noir Ish hammer. Everything I'm accustomed to is the very
Speaker 3: much like the Castle on the Hill. And this man
Speaker 3: is drawn drawn, quartering people and for whatever reason, and
Speaker 3: now there there's boils and you know, shredded clothing and
Speaker 3: women and yeah.
Speaker 2: On that note, let's talk about what comes out next
Speaker 2: week in case you forgot. Yeah, we've got The Breakfast
Speaker 2: Club on four K from Criterion, hard Boiled four K,
Speaker 2: but you probably can't get it from the Shout Outland
Speaker 2: four K from Arrow Coda four K from Apple. How's
Speaker 2: how's Apple doing this year?
Speaker 3: I've heard they're doing They're doing great. I heard their
Speaker 3: stocks doing well.
Speaker 2: That's way too respectful from somebody that got laid off
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 3: I will say this, what's that god awful film they made?
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say film, movie, thing, whatever, Argyle.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, avoid that thing at all costs.
Speaker 2: The Naked Gun coming out in a standard four K
Speaker 2: Vampires four K steel Book getting a wide release from
Speaker 2: Shout Chicha JNGS Last Movie four K Steelbook, s s
Speaker 2: Experiment Love Camp from eighty eight Films. I think I
Speaker 2: have that somewhere around here. I did get that one
Speaker 2: in as well, aesops FA the nineteen twenties Volume one
Speaker 2: from Classic Flicks, Subspecies four getting its standalone blu ray,
Speaker 2: The Red House from Filmmasters, The Howling four K steel
Speaker 2: Book with the most confusing artwork you ever made, Dragon Ball,
Speaker 2: Super Brawley Steel Book, Happiest Play Season one for everybody
Speaker 2: that loves Ruba McIntire, Cutters Club from Full Moon.
Speaker 3: And then we.
Speaker 2: Start getting into some big stuff after that. Let's see
Speaker 2: what do I want to ask a question about you
Speaker 2: getting that Vampire steel book? You into that vector art
Speaker 2: from MEXI funk.
Speaker 3: No, I mean I like vampires. It's just like I'm
Speaker 3: fine with the original art. The original art is what
Speaker 3: I like. From a distance. That vampire looks like the predator.
Speaker 2: Now quite a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I will gladly take my copy of CODA
Speaker 3: open it up. Take the disc out and put my
Speaker 3: copy of Strangers chapter two in there.
Speaker 2: That's good to know, good to know. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: let's now for the next five or eight let's discuss
Speaker 2: Vinegar Syndrome. The Black Friday pre order is happening tomorrow
Speaker 2: night at midnight midnight Eastern. That is, will run through Tuesday,
Speaker 2: November fourth, at midnight Eastern. Most of the pre order
Speaker 2: options will remain available to order until the site shuts
Speaker 2: down ahead of the sale, but they will be raised
Speaker 2: to their full price. Now, Vinegar Syndrome does this every
Speaker 2: time for these flash pre orders and say hey, these
Speaker 2: can be at their best prices during the flash pre
Speaker 2: order event. Keep in mind, by best prices it literally
Speaker 2: means like two or three bucks and if.
Speaker 3: One else, it will last until the next.
Speaker 2: Sale, probably last until the next sale an impulse by
Speaker 2: So yeah, nothing else is gonna be on sale this
Speaker 2: weekend as far as discounts, it's literally just the flash
Speaker 2: pre order event. You're going to find out some titles,
Speaker 2: So what will be available. These are what we're going
Speaker 2: to see. They're going to announce their next VSU, They're
Speaker 2: going to announce their next Vinego Syndrome title, they're going
Speaker 2: to announce another Vinegar Syndrome title, They're going to announce
Speaker 2: a Cinematograph title, They're going to announce a new Vinegar
Speaker 2: Syndrome sub label release which is supposedly called VS Reviver,
Speaker 2: and then they are going to announce the next Pink
Speaker 2: Line title. And then there will be an everything package
Speaker 2: which will have all of the Vinegar Syndrome and sub
Speaker 2: label releases, or you could just buy the secret package
Speaker 2: which will have the two unannounced titles. And that is
Speaker 2: only half of the titles coming your way for Black Friday.
Speaker 2: The rest will be revealed once the sale goes live
Speaker 2: on Black Friday. Yes, your benefit of pre ordering these,
Speaker 2: of course, is you will get a slight, very slight
Speaker 2: discount on these, and then you will be able to
Speaker 2: guarantee a copy of popular titles. So like last year's
Speaker 2: The Keep sold out within a day, day and a
Speaker 2: half or whatever, you will be able to order stack
Speaker 2: immediately when you log in, and so if something was
Speaker 2: out of print or at a stock and they found
Speaker 2: a slipcover somewhere, you can get that one quickly. As
Speaker 2: long as you have that, you'll be able to see
Speaker 2: your ad existing order option and these will be part
Speaker 2: of the first to ship after the sale. And that
Speaker 2: is it. There's been some some hints and other stuff,
Speaker 2: but that is truly all that we know that is
Speaker 2: coming as part of the sale.
Speaker 3: So where are you getting this VS Reviver from?
Speaker 2: It was in their email that they sent to everybody.
Speaker 3: I didn't get anything. I didn't get a single email,
Speaker 3: and I check my email every day.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not sure how hold.
Speaker 3: On it's downloading a bunch of new things. No, still
Speaker 3: not there. Un let's say, change your name to contison.
Speaker 3: Uh So, if they have a VS line called VS Retail,
Speaker 3: they're gonna have two vsrs or they're actually gonna call
Speaker 3: it VS Reviver VS.
Speaker 2: Revivors seemingly what is going to be called? Yes, so
Speaker 2: you do you?
Speaker 3: Do you have any angling and I'll see if you
Speaker 3: know stuff, you're not gonna tell. But do you have
Speaker 3: do not know something and have a suspicion as to
Speaker 3: what it is?
Speaker 2: I don't have a suspicion on what VS Revivors. Let
Speaker 2: me let me read from the email itself. So it
Speaker 2: says at the start of the flash preorder, we'll be
Speaker 2: revealing six of our November releases, including our latest and
Speaker 2: grossest VS Ultra, an intense supernatural horror gem making its
Speaker 2: UHD debut, and a three film set of shocking Hong
Speaker 2: Kong horror, both from VS. Proper, a tense true crime
Speaker 2: thriller on UHD from Cinematograph, the second volume of jaw
Speaker 2: dropping Japanese art sleeves from Pink Line, and finally, the
Speaker 2: first release from the mysterious Reviver. Meanwhile, over at Melu Scene,
Speaker 2: the incredible three disc deluxe edition of the first release
Speaker 2: from the Mitchell Brothers Film Group will also be available
Speaker 2: on November first to pre order at a slightly reduced
Speaker 2: price during the flash preorder event. And yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: So those are all the hints that we've had so far.
Speaker 3: Well, Grossest, it's Gary Pelkits. I'm guaranteed it's card case.
Speaker 2: VS is signing a bunch of stuff that is out
Speaker 2: of print from Shout That would not really surprise me.
Speaker 3: What do you see the other the the trilogy, the VS.
Speaker 3: Proper trilogy, the Hong Kong gross out.
Speaker 2: Thing, not not gross out, just shocking shaw.
Speaker 3: Horror, oh, shocking shark. Then I have no idea what
Speaker 3: it is. But but what's the other one?
Speaker 2: Uh Cinematograph thrilling UHD debut.
Speaker 3: I really don't. I've looked at that image of the
Speaker 3: high tension wires and I really don't. I really don't
Speaker 3: know what it would be. So we we shall see,
Speaker 3: I you know. And I read Cinematograph did comment on
Speaker 3: Instagram and someone said, hey, is that doubleheader going to
Speaker 3: be coming the seventies double header? Because they said in
Speaker 3: their release at the beginning of the year, like, these
Speaker 3: are what are coming from Cinematograph And one of them
Speaker 3: says a dual release of Sending, which was the first
Speaker 3: in a series from Cinematograph, And they said, are we
Speaker 3: gonna see and they said not this year?
Speaker 2: Damn, So something got delayed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's I'm interested to see now what is
Speaker 3: taking its place? If they moved one thing up or
Speaker 3: who knows, Yeah, and then Reviver maybe it's like religious movies.
Speaker 2: Jaden in the chat says VS. Reviver sounds like it
Speaker 2: should be a sub label specifically for really bad direct
Speaker 2: to DVD sequels in horror franchises. Could be film could
Speaker 2: be I could see it. You know. There's been kind
Speaker 2: of an outcry of support for erotic thrillers. I could
Speaker 2: see it being something like that, uh. Or or titles
Speaker 2: that are like right now, like locked on laser disc
Speaker 2: and not didn't even get like a proper DVD release
Speaker 2: and reviving those.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm revivor yeah, revivor. I just hear revival so
Speaker 3: I think religious, but like I revive. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: isn't the whole idea of Vinigarism to revive these things
Speaker 3: that are lost?
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually on film?
Speaker 3: Sadly, well, I guess they have to be on film
Speaker 3: otherwise it's it's not.
Speaker 2: Only if it's from the VS main line they have
Speaker 2: everything else can be a free will to do, like
Speaker 2: the Gaussers generally not films right right right.
Speaker 3: I feel like the further way they get as far
Speaker 3: as like so many suburses, the line moves when people
Speaker 3: come back, we sound like proper VS.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all it is. It's just Zobbie movies.
Speaker 3: I want to see the lines is VSBs and it's
Speaker 3: just like nonsense that they found. They're just gonna slap
Speaker 3: it all together like like a title or something like that.
Speaker 3: I feel like the further way that the more sub
Speaker 3: labels are people. Do you think people are gonna still
Speaker 3: subscribe the more that they don't have, like they have
Speaker 3: to add something onto the subscription. Be like, yes, you're
Speaker 3: not getting this, you're not getting that, but you will
Speaker 3: get this because it's like so many things that are
Speaker 3: not vis proper.
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing. If Vinegar Syndrome is your
Speaker 2: favorite label, and you buy all of the VSAs, all
Speaker 2: of the vsus, all of the vsps, all of the cinematograph,
Speaker 2: all of the degaus, whole shit, that's a lot of money,
Speaker 2: first of all, But second of all, you you may
Speaker 2: as well subscribed because the subscription is essentially free because
Speaker 2: of all the discounts from all those things.
Speaker 3: But it is so expand Like you can't just rest
Speaker 3: on your laurels and you have like the same you
Speaker 3: want to expand your numbers? What you like, you want
Speaker 3: to grow your numbers, like.
Speaker 2: Vinegar Centrome wants to have more subscribers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but so if you're not someone who's been there
Speaker 3: since the beginning and now you're like just coming into
Speaker 3: you're like, all right, so I'm spending a thousand dollars
Speaker 3: or so, it'll make me a little bit more. So
Speaker 3: what exactly am I getting? Like, Well, this this giant
Speaker 3: package one You're not got that. This this pink WU
Speaker 3: line not get that. It's like, well, what do I get?
Speaker 3: It's like you got like three titles a month, Like
Speaker 3: you're not getting garbil If it's Guards Bail Kids, you're
Speaker 3: not getting that. So all those mainline things that people
Speaker 3: are like, like the vsu's are like those things that
Speaker 3: like drive the attention you're not getting.
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, But I also think that
Speaker 2: they have a lot of mainline titles that still draw
Speaker 2: the attention. Like The Keep came out on regular ys.
Speaker 3: Well, like you said, it's black Friday, and that's how
Speaker 3: they get people to be like it look.
Speaker 2: And that specifically is why it came out in November
Speaker 2: last time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But then I just feel like then there's something
Speaker 3: they gotta like either like move some things or there
Speaker 3: certainly have been titles where I've said, this could have
Speaker 3: been VS. Propers, you need to be a VSU, this
Speaker 3: is in need of VIE.
Speaker 2: If it is garbage Pail Kids, that should be VS.
Speaker 2: Proper and not a VSU.
Speaker 3: We've talked about this. I do also see it as
Speaker 3: fitting in with the what the eighties nineties kids movies,
Speaker 3: though I do see I agree, yeah, But at the
Speaker 3: same time, again I feel like there's something and then again,
Speaker 3: like the the April Fools thing is not included in
Speaker 3: your subscription. It's like so what. And it used to
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, you get all For a while, there
Speaker 3: were multiple slipcovers right for some for some.
Speaker 2: Titles, Yeah, and there still are.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I just feel like what you're getting, like, like,
Speaker 3: what else are you getting? Like are you get like
Speaker 3: like they're like, well, you're gonna get fis and you'll
Speaker 3: get this, but you don't get the others. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just feel like, but you.
Speaker 2: Get everything, you get discounts on everything.
Speaker 3: That's true. That's true for.
Speaker 2: What you're getting. I again, like if you buy enough
Speaker 2: from Vinegar Syndrome outside of the subscription titles, it's essentially free.
Speaker 3: I see. Your rationale is coming though from a place,
Speaker 3: from a place of somebody. Uh didn't they say they
Speaker 3: were going to do that? Oh? I did not. I mean,
Speaker 3: that'd be great if they.
Speaker 2: When I when I interviewed Joe Rubin last year, he
Speaker 2: said they were looking at ways to to change it up,
Speaker 2: but that did not happen this last January, so hopefully
Speaker 2: that changes this coming January.
Speaker 3: I just think, especially in this and we can I
Speaker 3: think maybe we'll talk about it in a little bit,
Speaker 3: But like in this economy, like as far as like
Speaker 3: you know, numbers being down, as like sales, it's like
Speaker 3: you're really trying to get a newcomer to come in
Speaker 3: here and drop a thousand dollars. And from your perspective,
Speaker 3: you're saying this from a very educated point of view,
Speaker 3: having been shopping with Vinegarson Droom for a while. But
Speaker 3: to go to somebody who's maybe new to physical media
Speaker 3: or new to a subscription service, and say, like we
Speaker 3: want your nine one hundred dollars, eleven hundred dollars, ten
Speaker 3: hundred hundred dollars, what does that mean? You know what
Speaker 3: I mean? It's like, what's your pitch? Because you are
Speaker 3: in a world. We are in a world now where
Speaker 3: there's like like you said, hundreds of boutique labels, not
Speaker 3: all with subscription services, but like like you know, if
Speaker 3: you put out this movie, you know you put up
Speaker 3: the key. Yes, you're going to drive someone to come
Speaker 3: by the keep for you that one time, but this
Speaker 3: is trying to get someone to commit to you for
Speaker 3: an entire year. So it's very your pre approvent discounts
Speaker 3: on years with it exactly and again in wonder make
Speaker 3: you know you know what Vinegar Syndrome is offering, but
Speaker 3: just try to think about someone completely unaware of what
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: I think that you know, you just mentioned the economy.
Speaker 2: One thing that we should say as we discussed this
Speaker 2: is the economy is shit right now. Most labels are
Speaker 2: seeing that sales are very down for these last couple
Speaker 2: of months, and this is a very privileged hobby to
Speaker 2: be taking part in. We all understand that. We all
Speaker 2: know that I don't think Vinegar Syndrome specifically right now
Speaker 2: is expecting a lot of new subscribers. And in fact,
Speaker 2: this year, the rumor is they they lost a lot
Speaker 2: of subscribers compared to last year, which does not surprise me.
Speaker 2: Everything costs war. Everything is kind of rough for everybody
Speaker 2: right now, and so.
Speaker 3: The longer on the site, you can wait too at
Speaker 3: a sale, right and sot up the sales that they
Speaker 3: keep adding.
Speaker 2: So that's right, right. I don't know that they're looking
Speaker 2: to add like obviously they'd be thrilled if they did,
Speaker 2: but I don't even know if that's like the goal
Speaker 2: right now, is to add a bunch of new subscribers.
Speaker 2: That being said, I don't see it the way that
Speaker 2: you're seeing it, even if I wasn't educated on this,
Speaker 2: Like you're still getting like forty ish releases at already
Speaker 2: sales price for the entire year. You don't have to
Speaker 2: think about it. Plus you get free shipping for the
Speaker 2: entire year. That in itself is a lot to pitch that,
Speaker 2: not to mention, every month you're getting another twenty titles
Speaker 2: that you can get discounted that other people don't get
Speaker 2: discounts on. That's that's a pretty great selling point.
Speaker 3: I'm also seeing it though again from like so if
Speaker 3: you if Arrow at this point in time had a
Speaker 3: subscription service, that would be a safe bet because it's
Speaker 3: such mainstream titles. That's like, all right, for the next
Speaker 3: twelve months, I'm probably going to get a lot of
Speaker 3: like you know, hit blockbuster movies from the eighties and
Speaker 3: nine or two thousands or whatever it is. And and
Speaker 3: but that's something that like a mainstream person is like,
Speaker 3: you know, I want to get into physical media. They
Speaker 3: recognize that. But vinegar Syndrome's like, yes, what you're saying
Speaker 3: as far as bank for your buck, you're getting this,
Speaker 3: but when it's like weird, obscure, like slimy movie from like.
Speaker 2: VS isn't doing much of that anymore though. That's the
Speaker 2: thing a lot of their stuff, it's it's basically shout
Speaker 2: factory titles for a lot of their stuff.
Speaker 3: I still think it's a lot to ask of somebody.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no doubt. Any of these subscriptions is a
Speaker 2: lot to ask of somebody if.
Speaker 3: They broke it down to like basically because they have
Speaker 3: so many sales anyway, how about this, Every every sub label,
Speaker 3: everything has a subscription service. So if you're a VSA
Speaker 3: person and you love your Hong Kong movies, you can
Speaker 3: just subscribe to VSA. I love the idea.
Speaker 2: In theory, the admin side of that would fuck them
Speaker 2: for so much because of the amount of like record
Speaker 2: keeping that would have to be that would be a nightmare.
Speaker 3: Where I'm just I'm just dreaming here, I'm missaying, like
Speaker 3: you subscribe to that, and when you subscribe to any
Speaker 3: of their labels, like actually like a full year subscribe subscription,
Speaker 3: you get that fifty percent off and that way, because
Speaker 3: at this point you're doing sales anyway, so this way
Speaker 3: again just like I said, what if I asked you
Speaker 3: in a private chat a while, like a couple of
Speaker 3: weeks ago, what if Criterion just started doing twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five throughout the year rather than waiting for a sale,
Speaker 3: which most of us all know about. Just charge twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five a year, all year round, and people just
Speaker 3: impulsively start buying Criterion movies every day, and so yeah,
Speaker 3: and so like if people are just gonna wait for
Speaker 3: like one of your twenty sales that you have during
Speaker 3: the year for your fifty percent off, wanted to say, like,
Speaker 3: and I gain it's harder because you have all these
Speaker 3: partner labels that you or you can't like you have
Speaker 3: to negotiate with and get them to commit to that.
Speaker 3: But to say, like, all right, if you subscribe to
Speaker 3: any of our labels for the full year, you also
Speaker 3: get your fifty percent off, And I think they would
Speaker 3: start seeing more people just impulsively buying on the first
Speaker 3: like all those partner label titles like yeah, I'll take that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll take that, Yeah, I'll take that, especially with the slipcovers.
Speaker 3: Knowing everyone basically most people will now have that option
Speaker 3: be like I got I gotta get that now anyway,
Speaker 3: that's my little soapbox.
Speaker 2: What I think would help them solve what you're talking
Speaker 2: about is there should be the base VA subscription that
Speaker 2: they already have. There should be an option to subscribe
Speaker 2: to all of the VIA sub labels, all of them,
Speaker 2: not just each individual one because that would be really
Speaker 2: hard to follow through on like that, but literally every
Speaker 2: single one, VSA, VSU, vsp VS. What else is there,
Speaker 2: dick ouser, All of those is one cinematograph. And if
Speaker 2: you do either one of those subscri riptions or both,
Speaker 2: that's how you unlock the partner label discount as well.
Speaker 3: So, ok so you're saying the mainline plus another.
Speaker 2: One, yeah you have. You have two options. You can
Speaker 2: do the mainline or you can do all of the
Speaker 2: sub labels, but you can also do both.
Speaker 3: Gotcha, Okay, okay, I gotcha, Okay.
Speaker 2: But you can't subscribe to like Canadian International Pictures. I
Speaker 2: can't subscribe to AGFA.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, none of the partner things, just whatever
Speaker 3: the sublabels are for. For for venegar syndrome, I thought
Speaker 3: you said a subscription for everything. I was like, that
Speaker 3: is a pricey fucking.
Speaker 2: Would be God, that would probably be literally like six
Speaker 2: or seven.
Speaker 3: Thousand dollars, if not more probably.
Speaker 2: I do want to point out de neuro says VS
Speaker 2: used to have a streaming service that they bagged. I
Speaker 2: would pay a hefty fee per month of those titles
Speaker 2: could be streamed. Try it before you buy it. Yes,
Speaker 2: they used to have Exploitation dot TV. I do want
Speaker 2: to point out one thing a lot of people do
Speaker 2: not even know about. This streaming service. Night Flight Plus
Speaker 2: is a streaming service that it's I think it's three
Speaker 2: ninety nine a month, or like well it's like three
Speaker 2: ninety nine a month, or like during Black Friday. You
Speaker 2: can get it for like twenty dollars for the year,
Speaker 2: something like that. They don't have everything VS, but they
Speaker 2: have a lot of VS. They have a lot of
Speaker 2: Deaf crocodile titles. They have a lot of stuff that
Speaker 2: Monta Macabro's put out. They have a lot of Severn
Speaker 2: titles right now. They have a lot of eighties and
Speaker 2: nineties programming for music documentaries, a lot of stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Night Flight Plus. If I'm going to endorse any streaming service,
Speaker 2: it's night Flight Plus. They they do incredible stuff. The
Speaker 2: interface is kind of eh It's nowhere near as bad
Speaker 2: as Amazon Prime Video, though, but check out a too
Speaker 2: b Ryan Toob's all right, it's I just hate ads
Speaker 2: to be to b ads. Ads suck. But yeah, check
Speaker 2: out night Flight Plus if you are wanting to supplement
Speaker 2: all of this purchasing with a cheaper streaming option. I
Speaker 2: think night Flight Plus is a good way to go
Speaker 2: and inexpensive enough to literally try out and you get.
Speaker 2: I think it's a two week free trial, which is
Speaker 2: pretty great for a service like that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, decent. I mean, Brendan will see how how
Speaker 3: long the stream factory upgrades last.
Speaker 2: And it's not just screen Factory they're they're upgrading code
Speaker 2: red titles, Scorpion titles, Keino titles.
Speaker 3: And keno Is also do the same with Scorpion code
Speaker 3: red title.
Speaker 2: Olive titles, all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3: Also, they should at least allow people to use their
Speaker 3: points for the subscription service.
Speaker 2: I do think I agree well, and their points plus
Speaker 2: the discount if they subscribe the previous year, you should
Speaker 2: be able to do both. Yeah, off topic, but Brendan
Speaker 2: is asking when does TerrorVision reveal their secret title? I
Speaker 2: grabbed it at the eleventh hour. I don't I hope
Speaker 2: this is not going to piss anybody off. We're not
Speaker 2: announcing it literally, we're never even going to say what
Speaker 2: it is publicly. The secret title can be purchased now
Speaker 2: until the end of the day tomorrow and people won't
Speaker 2: know it is until it is in their hands or
Speaker 2: somebody else posts about it online because they got it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're not coming out and saying, oh, the
Speaker 2: secret title was X. You just you got to take that.
Speaker 2: It's fifteen bucks by it if you want it. If not,
Speaker 2: no big deal.
Speaker 3: Comes with a pair of flip flops. I wish it
Speaker 3: did to go with your Frisbee. I I haven't gone yet.
Speaker 2: I got mine. Question none, Ryan, There's no way to
Speaker 2: say this without sounding like an asshole. But there's a
Speaker 2: couple like from Vinegar Center my text. I text Oscar
Speaker 2: sometimes and this morning we were literally texting and Oscar says, man,
Speaker 2: I cannot wait till you see one of the things
Speaker 2: coming out on the first And I went, oh, what
Speaker 2: are you to sell the beach ball with a discolder?
Speaker 3: There's no reason there's a discholder on that. They I
Speaker 3: don't know why I did that, Like, oh, soap boiless
Speaker 3: is there a thing to go with it, like, is
Speaker 3: that gonna be the next thing? Like next year's thing
Speaker 3: is going to be the one that we attached to it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope not. I do think it was
Speaker 2: probably because everybody, not everybody. Every year that they've been
Speaker 2: doing this April Fool's thing, somebody has complained about some bullshit.
Speaker 2: The first year it was because, oh, your subscription says
Speaker 2: I get every VS. Title and I didn't get this
Speaker 2: one and I didn't know I had to pay for it.
Speaker 2: The second year it was the art is bad on
Speaker 2: this fatal game slip cover. The third year was why
Speaker 2: do I have to draw my own slipcover? I don't
Speaker 2: want that? And then this year they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're showing a picture of a frisbee with a disc
Speaker 2: underneath it. We're sending them a disc. So to make
Speaker 2: all these entitled assholes happy, we got to send them
Speaker 2: a frisbee that can hold a disc too, I guess.
Speaker 3: So, I don't know. Honestly, it's fun to dis partake.
Speaker 3: I don't ever like, I wonder what it's gonna be,
Speaker 3: not since like I kind of liked I really liked
Speaker 3: that lenticular slopcover, which I didn't get because I wasn't
Speaker 3: part of it yet, so I was like, Oh, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be another cool slipcover and then was that scratchway thing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, that's that's not really that great.
Speaker 2: Jake wants to know what Arra Vision is doing with
Speaker 2: the extra copies of the mystery title. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: They'll probably stell them like conventions and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I assume because they go to a lot of conventions.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it won't be on the website and they're
Speaker 2: not like coming out advertising it or selling it. All Right,
Speaker 2: are we ready for some sequels?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: Do you want?
Speaker 3: I mean you go? You go first? Me go first?
Speaker 3: Four of the five worked out.
Speaker 2: Well, I've got all five of what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: I have four physical copies one of them. One of
Speaker 2: them is put away already, so I do not have
Speaker 2: access to it. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna go ahead, and
Speaker 2: I am going to go. Okay, So this is this
Speaker 2: is kind of my weakest pitch. I'm gonna choose this
Speaker 2: one first. I love this movie. I think it is silly,
Speaker 2: I think it is cheesy. I think it is also
Speaker 2: scary and goofy in the best ways because I love
Speaker 2: this director, but I want to see a sequel to
Speaker 2: Drag Me to Hell where Justin Long dates someone else
Speaker 2: and does something to get them to get dragged to hell.
Speaker 2: He like invokes the curse again and chases after them
Speaker 2: to go back and find his what was about to
Speaker 2: be is almost fiance, so he's not the one getting
Speaker 2: dragged to hell, so he is safe. He is with
Speaker 2: somebody here and he cons them into getting this choice.
Speaker 2: The ground opens up, they get swallowed, and Justin goes up,
Speaker 2: hold the door, I'm diving in after you, and he
Speaker 2: goes in. And because he's not the one that they
Speaker 2: were after, he's able to chase after his wife or
Speaker 2: his fiance that was about to be his fiance and
Speaker 2: hope for the best. And so it's essentially an The
Speaker 2: entire movie is a journey through hell. You do like
Speaker 2: an upstyle monologue or not monologue montage at the beginning,
Speaker 2: like this relationship is being built before our eyes for
Speaker 2: like eight minutes.
Speaker 3: And then want to say ad night to Brennan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see your night, Brendan.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you see this montage of them getting to know
Speaker 2: each other, falling in love falling in love because Justin
Speaker 2: Long is doing it fake and then you see the
Speaker 2: Witch come back and everything the ground opens up. Justin
Speaker 2: dives in and then the bulk of the film is
Speaker 2: just all of these horrors in hell of him finding
Speaker 2: his almost fiance, and then the end of the film
Speaker 2: is he gets her and brings her back up, and
Speaker 2: of course you got to do with some kind of
Speaker 2: fake out ending like they always do, and you turned
Speaker 2: out it's not actually hers, She's a demon or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: Ah. I was gonna say it turns into barbarian that yeah,
Speaker 3: that could work.
Speaker 2: And Carrie Mulligan Kerry Mulligan was asking about the secret
Speaker 2: title from TerrorVision says, isn't it without warning? It is
Speaker 2: not without warning. I can guarantee you that Satan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say Army of It sounds very army
Speaker 3: of darkness.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: It's been so long since I've seen Drag Me to Hell.
Speaker 3: I think I saw Drag Me to Hell. Had a screener.
Speaker 3: Oh geez, it was like the new Samuraimi movie.
Speaker 2: I remember is this O seven eight yeah, N nine nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was it had been a while since
Speaker 3: I was sly the Spider Man movies and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: like it had been a while since he had done
Speaker 3: something like that. All that, Yeah, all the witches right on? Yeah,
Speaker 3: absolutely absolutely. The only thing is like, when you go
Speaker 3: into like a fantasy realm, like, does it take away
Speaker 3: from the the faintness of the of the gruesomeness in
Speaker 3: the real world? Does it? Probably?
Speaker 2: But we kind of need that right now.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Is there anyone else or is it just
Speaker 3: just and long like down in hell?
Speaker 2: Oh? I mean no, you definitely see like other horrific
Speaker 2: things happening, and you can easily get like it's Sam Raimy.
Speaker 2: You can get some people to cameo like is.
Speaker 3: There anyone else that has evoked the thing? And they
Speaker 3: are stuck down there like there's tons of ex girlfriends
Speaker 3: or tons of xys, every every fucked over spouse is
Speaker 3: down there.
Speaker 2: That could be. That could be I'm into it.
Speaker 3: No, No, I like it man, absolutely, and again anything
Speaker 3: that anything that, well, didn't he say he's doing a
Speaker 3: new gruesome movie now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. Yeah, and then he's got that
Speaker 2: uh what is it called the Last Survival or whatever?
Speaker 2: Oh no, without warning? Is not the vinegar syndrome April
Speaker 2: Fool's joke. No, he's got that. He's got that movie
Speaker 2: coming out in the spring. That's like a castaway kind.
Speaker 3: Of Wow, it's the first ever heard. I mean, all
Speaker 3: I know is that he was in production the trailer yet
Speaker 3: Oh man, oh, I'm I'm doing I'm I'm off my game.
Speaker 3: And also, like, didn't he sign on for Doctor Strange two?
Speaker 3: He's doing Doctors? I don't know. I thought he was.
Speaker 2: He already did Multiverse amandness. I would I wouldn't mind
Speaker 2: seeing him do another one.
Speaker 3: No, I thought that's why he I thought because Scott
Speaker 3: Derickson wasn't gonna come do it, so they were like,
Speaker 3: you can just do this the next one as well,
Speaker 3: which I hated Multiverse amantas, I really really did. I.
Speaker 2: I did not like most of it, but the stuff
Speaker 2: that got kind of Sam raimisk at the end was
Speaker 2: pretty fun.
Speaker 3: The whole thing in the Multiverse is great. Oh yeah
Speaker 3: that part too. I should just stay just yeah, it's
Speaker 3: like Back to the Future part two. Just stay there.
Speaker 2: I am just tired of the whole Multiverse storyline.
Speaker 3: All you need to do is a side little side
Speaker 3: will story thing is well. It was perfect timing we
Speaker 3: had Endgame and the pandemic hit. They should have put
Speaker 3: everything on pause, laws Marvel, we're not doing telling you anything,
Speaker 3: wait five years, and then also and have it all
Speaker 3: planned out. The problem was that Avengers movie hit and
Speaker 3: everyone was like, oh Thanos, Oh my god, we're well
Speaker 3: building our way to Thanos. So every little step along
Speaker 3: the way we knew where we were headed. And this
Speaker 3: were like not only when we were making TV shows,
Speaker 3: but we're also making this and this and this and
Speaker 3: this and this, and you're like, so you're making more
Speaker 3: stuff have to watch yep, but I don't. I have
Speaker 3: less of an idea where we're going true, and then
Speaker 3: they obviously had to like delay some stuff. It's like,
Speaker 3: all right, well they're referencing stuff that hasn't even happened
Speaker 3: yet and this doesn't even make sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's I've still only ever seen Wad Division.
Speaker 2: Out of all the TV shows, I've not watched a
Speaker 2: single one of the others.
Speaker 3: It's not as rough as like watching Iron Fist that
Speaker 3: that shit was terrible, but it some of this stuff
Speaker 3: is like painful where you're like, oh my god, like
Speaker 3: this could have been this could have been done In an.
Speaker 2: Email let's hear your first pitch.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying to find Okay. So I've had this
Speaker 3: one in my brain for a while, so I kind
Speaker 3: of feel like I cheated a little bit, but it's
Speaker 3: at least no, it's an environment where I get to
Speaker 3: talk about it, and it kind of coincides with how
Speaker 3: I've felt this last year or so. And I actually
Speaker 3: proposed this to a bunch of my coworkers at the time,
Speaker 3: so mine would be called the Purge. Black Friday.
Speaker 2: Oh God.
Speaker 3: So we started on Black Friday with a bunch of
Speaker 3: scenes of service industry people being treated like crap. One
Speaker 3: by one, they start forming a list from customer loyalty programs.
Speaker 3: The titles are a montage of names being added, like
Speaker 3: Santas Naughty List. Cut to the eve of the Purge,
Speaker 3: where there is a shop owner of a small mom
Speaker 3: and pop business. They're being put out of business by
Speaker 3: a giant Amazon type company. Ro out the movie, you
Speaker 3: watch them conflicted with how to act during the Purge.
Speaker 3: Corporate billionaires have immunity, just like the politicians have immunity.
Speaker 3: I think an election year one of the one of
Speaker 3: the things, but many say to hell with the rules.
Speaker 3: So will that shopkeeper actually go after this Bezos type character.
Speaker 3: Will they help the disgruntled employees and kill the CEO
Speaker 3: or in fact be the uh the So it's like
Speaker 3: the Frank Grillo character, right, you know, and take the
Speaker 3: moral high road. So basically you just have people, you know,
Speaker 3: like hunting down like all these Karens and all these
Speaker 3: people that have been just like you could even like
Speaker 3: do a montage of like of like you like fake
Speaker 3: YouTube videos of something like like breakdown scenes, you know,
Speaker 3: like a Walmart type thing or like a like a
Speaker 3: burger king, and it's just yeah, it's it's it's just payoff,
Speaker 3: ninety minutes of payoff. It's get like everyone wants to
Speaker 3: see that, just like I'm trying to think of other
Speaker 3: movies where it was like people went to go see
Speaker 3: this because they just wanted to see, you know, someone
Speaker 3: get their ass kicked.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, fun, Yeah, I did you like the Birch franchise.
Speaker 3: For the most part, I think Election Year got mean.
Speaker 3: I don't know I have a better way to say that.
Speaker 3: It just got mean, and it got very statistic. He
Speaker 3: got very statistic and very stereotypical, like the like the
Speaker 3: like the teenage girls who come to like like destroy
Speaker 3: the bodega. It was such bad acting though. It as
Speaker 3: like I feel like this is verging on stereotype because
Speaker 3: it's so badly written. Ye, Like, I think anarchy is great.
Speaker 3: I truly do love like anarchy belongs in like the
Speaker 3: pantheon of Like it feels like a death Wish movie.
Speaker 3: Like it feels like this in like you know, like
Speaker 3: a Carpenter film or you know, I love that.
Speaker 2: We're talking about another Ethan Hawk film too.
Speaker 3: Right, exactly. Yeah. And that's the thing is the first one.
Speaker 3: I like the first one that it's an isolated thing,
Speaker 3: and I like the other one that it spreads out.
Speaker 3: Then they once it started going back, when it goes
Speaker 3: back to I'm like, no, no, no, I don't care how
Speaker 3: it started. I just just this is what it is.
Speaker 3: You've told me, these are the rules, this is the world.
Speaker 3: That's what I want to that's I can go from there.
Speaker 3: I don't need to see the first purge. And then
Speaker 3: you did the Purge Forever, the Forever Purge, and then
Speaker 3: it was really getting into whole, like again we'll talk
Speaker 3: about the story. It's like like Frankenstein's like this didn't
Speaker 3: have to be Purge, right, if this is really just
Speaker 3: watching you know, like Mexicans getting pissed off and like
Speaker 3: like you know, killing racist people. I'm like, you can
Speaker 3: make a whole story. You don't need to be the Purge.
Speaker 3: We would just like that story. Yeah, yeah, just show
Speaker 3: me that, Like, I don't need it to be the
Speaker 3: Purge because now you got Purge rules and that the
Speaker 3: people are bringing the Purge rules and the Purge e't
Speaker 3: fucking matter yep. So you could just make your own
Speaker 3: moveing and be like, oh wow, this new franchise, let's
Speaker 3: expand him on this rather than just being a standalone thing.
Speaker 3: Did you like the Purge?
Speaker 2: I like the Purge. I was gonna I was gonna
Speaker 2: say a lot, and I think I've tempered on it
Speaker 2: over time. I would say I still I like it
Speaker 2: quite a bit. It's something that I definitely expected to not.
Speaker 3: Like as much as I do.
Speaker 2: I the first movie. That first movie is so different,
Speaker 2: and I like that it's different, but gosh, I who know,
Speaker 2: Oh I don't remember.
Speaker 3: For some reason, I was about to say James wand
Speaker 3: and Mike.
Speaker 2: James Wandon' dur that it was not James Wand though.
Speaker 3: He did another ethanolgy right, No, he did.
Speaker 2: Scott Derrickson did Sinister? Is that what you're thinking.
Speaker 3: No, I'm thinking not ethanolgic. I'm thinking Kevin Bacon. I
Speaker 3: think James Wand did that uh where he has a shotgun.
Speaker 3: Go on, keep talking me about the Purge. I'll find
Speaker 3: out Kevin Bacon with a shotgun.
Speaker 2: I mean, not much else to say. I do think
Speaker 2: that they got a little on the nose with the
Speaker 2: Purge eventually, and I think very few would argue with that.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. It's acted well. It's a fun Uh,
Speaker 2: it's a fun storyline. It is well made, Like I
Speaker 2: can't really argue too much with it. I like the Purge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I prefer I feel like again,
Speaker 3: when we when we kept going, when we progressed, it
Speaker 3: turned into it lost its character.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it it became archetypes and I'm just like, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's different. I like that. But I also and it
Speaker 3: became more about the mythos, yes, whereas like I kind
Speaker 3: of like like different families, like like this type of
Speaker 3: family handle this. And you know.
Speaker 2: Ronnie shared that James Demonico directed the first one. I
Speaker 2: don't know that I've ever heard that name other than this.
Speaker 2: Did they direct anything else?
Speaker 3: I'll let Ronnie answer that Death Sentence is the Kevin
Speaker 3: Bacon movie Death Sentence, and James wand did direct it.
Speaker 3: I feel vindicated. Death Sentence it is?
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: Yes, this is the poster.
Speaker 2: Why am I not remembering this at all?
Speaker 3: It is? It is him and Elizabeth Shoe. I believe
Speaker 3: it's it's it's Oh no, Kelly Preston it was. And
Speaker 3: Garrett Hedlund. Oh, I forgot he was in this and
Speaker 3: John Goodman what the fun? Yeah, it's it's it's basically
Speaker 3: Death Wish. It's a Death Wish rip off.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting death Wish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's James Wand.
Speaker 2: Oh, the same guy directed the first three Purge movies.
Speaker 3: Got Pigeonholed. Wow, yeah, Paul, I remember I rented it.
Speaker 3: I think from like Blockbuster.
Speaker 2: It's a Death Wish sequel. Like actually, oh, I didn't
Speaker 2: even know that they are. They related.
Speaker 3: It's one of those movies that has set learning so
Speaker 3: much about this, And I sat in the back of
Speaker 3: my brain and it keeps swirling about with like Max
Speaker 3: pain around and kind of looks like a Max pain
Speaker 3: thing with the poster and it's like, oh, but there's
Speaker 3: also sinister. But then the Purge came out, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: there's a dad protecting the people, and it just it
Speaker 3: almost became one of those movies I thought I dreamt
Speaker 3: up right right, like the Blu Ray. I feel like
Speaker 3: it's like, if you look into you can probably get
Speaker 3: it for like five bucks, but it sounds like something
Speaker 3: that should be like so unknown and out of print.
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, this is like two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: The guy that did the Purge did the Home this year.
Speaker 2: I hated the Home.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm know, look at them right now?
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, go ahead. It's my turn for the
Speaker 2: next one. And it's kind of on topic of what
Speaker 2: you're talking about. So I do want to transition into
Speaker 2: this kind of quickly. I want to see a sequel
Speaker 2: to Dead Silence, also directed by James Wan, and my
Speaker 2: big pitch for this is the whole conceit of this
Speaker 2: film is everybody's turning into a ventriloquist dummy. Essentially, that
Speaker 2: is what happens in this film. I want to see.
Speaker 2: This is such a this is such a sadistic take
Speaker 2: for somebody that loves what I love. I want to
Speaker 2: see the Henson Creature Shop do a version of this
Speaker 2: movie where the Muppets turn into killers, essentially based on
Speaker 2: this storyline. So you find out that there are souls
Speaker 2: trapped in the Muppets as they're filming this story and instead.
Speaker 3: So it's five Nights of Freddy.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's I mean, have you seen
Speaker 2: Dead Silence?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, saw.
Speaker 3: My friend makes fun of this because he says, what
Speaker 3: is it that rhyme? You wear the stair of Mary Shaw?
Speaker 3: She had no children, only dolls? Right, Shawls, we wear
Speaker 3: the stair of Mary Shaw, she had no children, only
Speaker 3: doll Yeah, anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Silent Mindable says that Deasence is loosely based on the
Speaker 2: new novel that is, the sequel novel to the original
Speaker 2: Death Wish novel.
Speaker 3: This is the most anyone has ever talked about this
Speaker 3: movie since it came out.
Speaker 2: It probably is.
Speaker 3: I don't think it remembers he made the movie.
Speaker 2: This is exactly what I was going for. Dolls meets
Speaker 2: dead Silence in a way exactly that.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay that I can see.
Speaker 2: I know we're moving on, but I have to mention it.
Speaker 3: I was like I kept thinking of of Five Nights.
Speaker 2: Not quite not not animatronics, like these are actually Ventriloquist puppets.
Speaker 3: But they're like muppets like Fozzy Bear. Yes, oh so
Speaker 3: you don't want but a ventral Quist is like a
Speaker 3: human looking puppe.
Speaker 2: Well because in that first film, that's all we get.
Speaker 2: But there are other types of puppets, so we're just
Speaker 2: we're just changing the type of puppets. Oh okay, you
Speaker 2: find out that the souls could be trapped in these.
Speaker 3: Two like Evil Pinocchio.
Speaker 2: In a way. Yeah, although different, but yes.
Speaker 3: And who is and do where do they come from?
Speaker 3: They come from Hell?
Speaker 2: Did not think that apart through I just got excited
Speaker 2: thinking about these sequels and I love them uppet so
Speaker 2: it was the first thing that came to mind.
Speaker 3: I wish they would do it. I mean, I'll see
Speaker 3: they wouldn't even like allow the Turtles to take their
Speaker 3: weapons out in the second Turtles film, so how but
Speaker 3: I see like if they went back to like a
Speaker 3: dark crystal type of type of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, does Mary come back Mary Shaw? Yeah, of course
Speaker 2: she's she's got to be there.
Speaker 3: Hmm. It's fen when you comment it goes through all
Speaker 3: the formats. So I'm like, why do you keep commenting
Speaker 3: four times and like.
Speaker 2: That's a lot. Yeah, it's because we're streaming in four places.
Speaker 9: We're streaming all across the world.
Speaker 3: Absolutely do I I still get creeped out by Dead Silence.
Speaker 2: It's a good movie. It's a good movie, James waand
Speaker 2: is a hot take, really good at horror?
Speaker 3: Who is wait, the main actor is Kevin Dillon. Isn't
Speaker 3: that in that Silence? Is it Kevin Dylan? No? Is
Speaker 3: it Matt Dilan who is the lead guy.
Speaker 2: In then Ryan Quantine?
Speaker 3: Oh he's insane. He was like a WB Wait that's
Speaker 3: not the guy from True Blood? Is it?
Speaker 2: I never saw True Blood?
Speaker 3: Well I know where you were in the early two thousand.
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, no, fine, rank, Yeah, I could have sworn
Speaker 9: there's like some like other home Dead Silence, so you
Speaker 9: would do all practical puppets.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they talk or they just like killing people, like.
Speaker 2: Oh they are talking. Absolutely, Takata, it is.
Speaker 3: The guy from True Blood. It most he is not Australian.
Speaker 2: He's South African, southern atmosphere kind of close. I couldn't
Speaker 2: even say that without laughing. That South Africa and Australia.
Speaker 3: From Twilight Slash Never Back Down. They both have they're
Speaker 3: both South African. I think Donnie Wahlberg, that's the fucker
Speaker 3: in the movie. He's in Dead Silence. I knew he
Speaker 3: was the brother of someone famous.
Speaker 2: He's got some sort of really small part though, right.
Speaker 3: I thought he was a major partner because he's like
Speaker 3: the last one of the last He's like the final guy,
Speaker 3: isn't he. He plays like cop or something that. By
Speaker 3: the way, Judith Roberts still looks like Mary Shaw, even
Speaker 3: her in her picture. That is a no makeup required situation.
Speaker 2: Paul, it looks like you're having a stroke because of
Speaker 2: your comments. And it's kind of funny.
Speaker 3: Some way, we claimed Russell Crowe from Note from Note
Speaker 3: from New Zealand. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: All right, sir, pitch your second title? All right?
Speaker 3: Where do I have my second title here? All right?
Speaker 3: So this one be called Silence of the Dead. We
Speaker 3: are bringing back the Georgia Marrow universe. Oh nice. And
Speaker 3: but every every every Dead movie has to have some
Speaker 3: type of underlying sociological like message. So the world has
Speaker 3: been overrun by zombies. There are no human protagonists. The
Speaker 3: entire film is done with no dialogue, with a Welzink
Speaker 3: score that really tells the story. You have two conflicting
Speaker 3: tribes that are actively trying to kill each other while
Speaker 3: trying to survive in this post apocalyptic world. The film
Speaker 3: should stand in for the divide in society, but at
Speaker 3: this point is impossible to tell who was who. All
Speaker 3: you can do is decide how you feel based on
Speaker 3: the way that the zombies are presented. So it's kind
Speaker 3: of like the first twenty minutes of what was at
Speaker 3: the Rise of the Dawn of the Planet of the Apes,
Speaker 3: where it's like it's just the apes doing sign language,
Speaker 3: but there is no sign language, so almost like the
Speaker 3: Star Wars Holiday Special. But it really is just about
Speaker 3: watching this story unfold and being like, okay, like you know,
Speaker 3: you should be able to tell what's going on just
Speaker 3: by the music, just by their motions. And there's a
Speaker 3: movie that Alamo put out called The Tribe. I know
Speaker 3: if anyone's seen that, have you seen that?
Speaker 2: I think I did.
Speaker 3: It's all in American slang language, but there's no translation,
Speaker 3: right and I there's no subs.
Speaker 2: There's the other movie that Alamo put out right around then.
Speaker 3: What was it called uh, I'm not gonna be able
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 2: It right now. Oh uh yeah, I'm sorry that one
Speaker 2: and I declare War I always watch together. Love both
Speaker 2: of those for similar different reasons, So.
Speaker 3: I don't know that one.
Speaker 2: I declare War as a bunch of kids essentially like
Speaker 2: playing playing war in the forest. But it's one of
Speaker 2: those movies where their imagination runs and we see their
Speaker 2: imagination and they we see real weapons and I actually
Speaker 2: have real weapons.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but I mean again, the idea is like
Speaker 3: you don't want to put like a shredded maga hat
Speaker 3: on one of the zombies. Is just like it's almost
Speaker 3: like the way that Alex Carlin presented Civil War, where
Speaker 3: it's like these different factions, but it's like California and
Speaker 3: was in Carolinas. I was like, really, like what do
Speaker 3: they have in common? It's like, so you really have
Speaker 3: to decide, like who are you who are you with
Speaker 3: just based on what you're seeing. That's true. Sounds fun. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would love to see the universe expand too.
Speaker 3: I'm just doing my elevator pitches, so I don't really
Speaker 3: have much of anything like you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have much.
Speaker 3: You're like, I want this type of person to do.
Speaker 3: I want the Jim Henson gounna be to come in
Speaker 3: and do it. I'm just like great Niko Taro.
Speaker 2: I don't Well, this next one is a really obvious pick,
Speaker 2: so I'll just pitch this one now. The really obvious
Speaker 2: title for this is I feel like you have to
Speaker 2: get this film to be called Saints, and it is
Speaker 2: the follow up to Sinners, and it is Michael B.
Speaker 2: Jordan and his beautiful bride carrying on in the late
Speaker 2: eighties and early nineties, watching the music take its evolutionary
Speaker 2: turn there from the classic jazz R and B and
Speaker 2: all that to the upcoming hip hop swing and how
Speaker 2: we see some of these death outbreaks in what is
Speaker 2: being classified as crime through like the news and everything,
Speaker 2: but we come to find out it's vampire killings. And
Speaker 2: they are framing like the Biggie the Tupac the deaths
Speaker 2: that happened in the music scene as just simple factions fighting,
Speaker 2: but we know from what we're witnessing that it's actually
Speaker 2: vampire clans coming from eighty years prior and living through
Speaker 2: that music again. And you can have a just ripping
Speaker 2: soundtrack again with perfect eighties and nineties style really go
Speaker 2: through all of that and then you can leave it
Speaker 2: open to the to the future again somehow, just like
Speaker 2: they did in this last one.
Speaker 3: It's funny. There's a book and I cannot remember. She
Speaker 3: is the ex wife of one of the horror people
Speaker 3: and I want to say Clive Barker, but I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure Clive Barker's gay. But she wrote a book about
Speaker 3: all the all the Hollywood like legends, like Marlon brand
Speaker 3: all these people actually got turned into vampires, like Orson
Speaker 3: Wells became a vampire, and so all these people that
Speaker 3: were like kill her, that Meril Monroe became a vampires.
Speaker 3: It it sounds similar to that idea of like, uh,
Speaker 3: in relation to what you said, I was thinking that
Speaker 3: would be great. They did it during like the the riots,
Speaker 3: the LA riots.
Speaker 2: That's on lines upride with the timing of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they said because it's like a free for all,
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, indeed, absolutely, And then you basically
Speaker 3: had exactly as the because the LA riots broke out
Speaker 3: because of you know, an attack at it like an
Speaker 3: Asian owned bodega. Yep. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: I my my grandmother's shop. My grandma was an interior
Speaker 2: decorator and we had to close up her shop because
Speaker 2: of the Rodney King rights for a little while. I
Speaker 2: remember all that very vividly. It was a crazy time.
Speaker 3: You were in Barstow.
Speaker 2: No, we we still lived forgot Yeah to Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: I moved up to Barlow when I was eight or
Speaker 2: seven and about to turn eight.
Speaker 3: Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 2: So that's my third Saints.
Speaker 3: I love it. I mean, I mean, I like your idea.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm pretty certain he's gonna have. Ryan Cougler
Speaker 3: is going to make his own sequel.
Speaker 2: I mean, he made it sound like he doesn't want to,
Speaker 2: and I hope that they don't actually, but I feel
Speaker 2: like it would be a fun way to take that.
Speaker 3: I feel like he it's it's one of these things
Speaker 3: where it's like the vampire lore again going back to
Speaker 3: Frankenstein is like you can do your own story. You
Speaker 3: don't have to do somebody else's or like you don't
Speaker 3: have to remake Dracula in hip hop. It's just like no,
Speaker 3: it's just like, just use the vampire as an allegory. Yes,
Speaker 3: So I could see him writing another one just purely
Speaker 3: being like it's just around this. Yeah, you know, and yeah.
Speaker 2: Googler called me. We'll talk about the big n tupacovideal.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you you don't. This one, I think is pretty much.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm playing it, save with it. I
Speaker 3: feel better about my other ones. But I'll just go
Speaker 3: down the line where I had it. I had bright
Speaker 3: Burn too, the scorched Son. But yeah, yeah, and so
Speaker 3: I mean it's very basic. The kid from bride Burn
Speaker 3: has been taken by the US government and encouraged train
Speaker 3: to be a weapon of war. The search is on
Speaker 3: now for someone to fight him. What they find is
Speaker 3: a superpowered kid who was adopted into an upper crust family.
Speaker 3: Now the government is trying to get rid of him,
Speaker 3: while another faction is trying to save him or her.
Speaker 3: Think Terminator meets Chronicle with a splash of the Last Starfighter.
Speaker 2: What's amazing is right when you started talking, I first thought, Man,
Speaker 2: I should have done a sequel to Chronicle.
Speaker 3: We've all been waiting for that. Unforced Josh Treng, who
Speaker 3: my friend has worked with, so we'll see what he's
Speaker 3: he's doing some in for Netflix. I guess the movie
Speaker 3: would have an overarching theme of nature versus Nurture, which
Speaker 3: I pretty much is the first movie I felt that
Speaker 3: that movie really just kind of left me hanging. It
Speaker 3: had so much potential, but in Agua, I mean yes
Speaker 3: it had, but like everything I saw was good and
Speaker 3: then it ended. I was like, wait, no, there's gotta
Speaker 3: be more. Yep, like don't just stop, like you're you're
Speaker 3: getting into the good stuff, like the I liked the
Speaker 3: premise and then it's just like it felt, but it
Speaker 3: felt like it ended without confidence. Yeah, it wasn't like
Speaker 3: that we gotcha. It was the we got nothing else.
Speaker 2: We had to put an end on this.
Speaker 3: We couldn't figure it out. But like, yeah it again,
Speaker 3: the evil superman of it all is pretty much right
Speaker 3: there in front of you. So of course the idea
Speaker 3: is like, well, if it's the homespun kid who's now
Speaker 3: the bad guy, then where's the good guy come from?
Speaker 3: It's like, well, maybe like some like snooty upper crust
Speaker 3: family adopts them. So the question is is, like, well
Speaker 3: does it if they're good and they came from this,
Speaker 3: like right, what how does it you know? And where
Speaker 3: did they get their powers from? And yeah, I mean really,
Speaker 3: it's just again, a story has been told a gazillion
Speaker 3: times over, So what is the point of your story.
Speaker 3: It's a good point, which is going back to the
Speaker 3: Frankenstein of it all, is like you could be telling
Speaker 3: like I don't think I don't think this has This
Speaker 3: doesn't give anything about the movie Victor Frankenstein. They make
Speaker 3: the dad the asshole and the mom is very loving
Speaker 3: in the book. They're both loving. They're both very and
Speaker 3: actually his mom has already passed in the book, but
Speaker 3: they make it very much like oh your mom, you know,
Speaker 3: you really miss your mom. And then I'm like, why
Speaker 3: do they not have any movie? I mean, I guess
Speaker 3: Poor Things is the closest closers it came from to
Speaker 3: have like a Frankenstein esque person like rebuild their mom
Speaker 3: or something like that you can get to like the
Speaker 3: Oedipus of it all. Yeah, but to like, like they
Speaker 3: really don't delve into all these things of like bringing
Speaker 3: a person back to life or building a person, like
Speaker 3: that's a very deep rooted thing and why do you
Speaker 3: do that? And what is it about powers about your
Speaker 3: you know, missing someone so much you want to have
Speaker 3: them back, and like all these things you can just
Speaker 3: build off as a perfect platform and then it's like, nah,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna it's alive. It's a lie. Like that's
Speaker 3: all right, We've done this already.
Speaker 2: They tried once. It was called weird science.
Speaker 3: Exactly, but but that is exactly like they took the
Speaker 3: Frankenstein and like what of their horny deans And you're like, well,
Speaker 3: at least that's something which they kind of did again
Speaker 3: with Dead Girl. Yeah, they kind of did it. But
Speaker 3: again the idea of power, the power dynamic, I mean,
Speaker 3: same with what's the movie that Zoe Kazan did with
Speaker 3: her now husband where he writes her sparks Sparks Again,
Speaker 3: that's very Frankenstein asked where you're like, you're you're this,
Speaker 3: you know, like strong will like low self esteem but
Speaker 3: like big ego on you male like you know, you know,
Speaker 3: like like you're now basically writing the dream girl, the
Speaker 3: man pixie dream girl, right, which is in its own
Speaker 3: sense very much a very frank and steiny type of thing.
Speaker 3: Because your fairy tale too. Yeah, you're you're basically just
Speaker 3: mishmashing specific characteristics that you love that would look that
Speaker 3: would be great together. You're basically doing the chocolate and
Speaker 3: peanut butter of a person. You're like, you know, what
Speaker 3: if it's what if it's all the quirky, great cute
Speaker 3: stuff but none of the human emotion or problems. And
Speaker 3: it's like, I just there's so much you can do
Speaker 3: with these stories, Like you said, like with like Sinners
Speaker 3: into the sky's the limit. Yeah, you know, it's just
Speaker 3: like Shakespeare. You don't need to redo Hamlet. Ham's a
Speaker 3: very basic story. Romeo and Juliet. There's been a good rezilion.
Speaker 3: And they didn't call it Romeo and Joy. It was
Speaker 3: just loves. It was called Romeo and Juliet exactly, just
Speaker 3: a couple that can't be together. There you go, That's
Speaker 3: what it.
Speaker 2: Is, speaking of couples, great transition. Uh, and also speaking
Speaker 2: of very easy storylines. I think this is a very
Speaker 2: unnecessary sequel, but I think it could be a lot
Speaker 2: of fun if you do it right. My pitch is
Speaker 2: called Honeymoon of the Creeps. Tom Atkins is very old
Speaker 2: at this point, so we have to make this like
Speaker 2: next year. Tom Atkins is known across these families for
Speaker 2: being a hero for saving what is now somebody's mother
Speaker 2: and father, and they are here to renew their vows
Speaker 2: as they are getting married. Alongside their child, who has
Speaker 2: now grown up. From the original Night of the Creeps,
Speaker 2: two of the characters that were in Night of the
Speaker 2: Creeps have stayed together have a child. That child is
Speaker 2: now getting married because that much time has passed, and
Speaker 2: they ask tom Atkins to officiate the wedding. And as
Speaker 2: he is there, some of the guests start to come
Speaker 2: up and they are dead and Tom Atkins just he
Speaker 2: gets to stand there and not do much except for
Speaker 2: look cool and give a lot of really funny lines.
Speaker 2: And it's like forty five minutes of pandemonium at a wedding.
Speaker 2: So everybody's dressed up fancy. There's a lot of like
Speaker 2: really mad cap situations that you can put in, of course,
Speaker 2: with like a giant cake and bouquets, and the.
Speaker 3: Floor dance exactly puts on thriller.
Speaker 2: That that is playing over the end credits, of course,
Speaker 2: but all of this stuff it it would just be
Speaker 2: a fun spectacle and a fun way to send Tom
Speaker 2: Adkins out the way that like Tony Todd got a
Speaker 2: really respectful send out that he did.
Speaker 3: Give him a white suit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course he has to.
Speaker 3: I like it. It's it's it feels again very uh
Speaker 3: who directed Bubba Ho tep uh Don Coscarelli like that
Speaker 3: it feels kind of like that type of like I
Speaker 3: could see that tongue in cheek, like it's dark, but
Speaker 3: just go with it. Yeah, Like it's not mean spirited,
Speaker 3: it's just like, you know, it's just silly. Oh it's
Speaker 3: not even like it's like cabin fever light. It's almost
Speaker 3: a little Gremons too.
Speaker 2: Actually, Yeah, in a way I could see that. It's
Speaker 2: just a different setting.
Speaker 3: You really are just like pulling on all the wedding troops.
Speaker 2: Yep, literally on purpose because it's the most relevant and
Speaker 2: most relative too for everybody.
Speaker 3: The bride tes to take like the garter belt off
Speaker 3: and her leg comes off like it takes the skin
Speaker 3: with it. It'says like.
Speaker 2: They show her going to throw her bouquet and it
Speaker 2: gets traded out the last moment for like a butcher's
Speaker 2: knife or something, and she throws it and it gets
Speaker 2: a zombie. Yeah, it's perfect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone throws all the rice and the birds like
Speaker 3: start attacking the body. Then you can play on Hitchcock
Speaker 3: there too. Yeah. I love it. I love a good
Speaker 3: romp and the like you liter can do. Would you
Speaker 3: would so call it Honeymoon though.
Speaker 2: Honeymoon creeps because this is Night of the Creeps.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's because it's the wedding.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't just conjuring the name of it and understanding that
Speaker 2: after this there's going to be something, you know, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of recovery that has to happen.
Speaker 3: I gotcha. Yeah, no, absolutely would you? Would you? So
Speaker 3: it's just going to be that one the one wedding
Speaker 3: is not gonna.
Speaker 2: Just the one wedding. You obviously you got to lead
Speaker 2: up to the wedding a little bit of planning, a
Speaker 2: little bit of like a montage of Tom Madkins coming
Speaker 2: out of retirement to officiate a wedding. Yeah, lots of
Speaker 2: stuff that you can do with that. Maybe maybe send
Speaker 2: it on.
Speaker 3: A cruise ship, a little project next. Yeah, it's got
Speaker 3: a little Project X in there, a little uh. I
Speaker 3: love it, you know who? I actually would have direct
Speaker 3: then Christopher Landon.
Speaker 2: That'd be a lot of fun. I could definitely see
Speaker 2: him doing will with it.
Speaker 3: I would like him to go back to like the
Speaker 3: Happy Death Day. But even before that the Scouts Guide.
Speaker 2: To Scout's Guy do a zombie apocalypse.
Speaker 3: Zombie apocalypse, which I really really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: It's good movie.
Speaker 3: I'm so waiting for my third Happy Death Day. It'll happen.
Speaker 3: That's happening. They said it's happening.
Speaker 2: They've said it before.
Speaker 3: Well, they said they signed up. Both of them said
Speaker 3: they signed on for it, and he's writing the script,
Speaker 3: but who knows what the genre is.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm waiting for that just the same way. I
Speaker 2: almost was going to pitch a Trick or Treat too,
Speaker 2: But that's supposedly something we've been waiting on since like
Speaker 2: two thousand and eleven or whatever.
Speaker 3: But isn't I again full discordier, I've not seen Trick
Speaker 3: or Treat? Which Trick or Treat are we talking about?
Speaker 7: Though?
Speaker 2: Sam Michael Doherty the anthology Oh the Eros.
Speaker 3: Released on Topology. You know, any number of movies. You
Speaker 3: can just grab a bunch of different anthology movies like
Speaker 3: VHS and if there's gonna be twelve VHS.
Speaker 2: Movies, yes, Although the big difference is it Michael Doherty
Speaker 2: directed all of the segments of or Treat. They are
Speaker 2: all inter like, they all affect each other very much,
Speaker 2: so they are they are standalone stories, but they make
Speaker 2: one overarching plot.
Speaker 3: Gotcha. Yeah, see this is why I'm ignorant about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you should see.
Speaker 2: It's a good movie.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of anthologies I think I do.
Speaker 3: If I do, you know, maybe I'll watch tomorrow night
Speaker 3: for a Halloween. That's a perfect time, perfect time. It's
Speaker 3: a good drink. Let's see what I got for my
Speaker 3: next one here. So this one is a little more
Speaker 3: of a deeper cut. And I and it's been a
Speaker 3: while since I've seen the first one, so I might
Speaker 3: be speaking out of turn as far as like what
Speaker 3: could progress? But Starry Eyes too, Oh, I fucking love
Speaker 3: story Eyes. And I feel like, especially now with like
Speaker 3: the TikTok generation and just like we've just got the
Speaker 3: substance where it's like you're a star, but you have
Speaker 3: to remain a star, and what are the prices you
Speaker 3: pay to remain a star? So even though she sold
Speaker 3: her soul to the devil to be a star, I
Speaker 3: can only imagine that Satan is not just like and
Speaker 3: now you're good, you know contracts. So it's like she
Speaker 3: is basically losing her stardom to someone else to like
Speaker 3: she's but just like no one specific, but just in general.
Speaker 3: So it's like she's got to re up her contract,
Speaker 3: you know, like, well, you know you're not you're not
Speaker 3: Instagram famous and you're not this fan and the Kardashians
Speaker 3: are out doing you or whatever. You don't even want
Speaker 3: to talk about the demons that they paid off to
Speaker 3: to become that. So basically, Sarah is now rich and famous. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: continued fame comes with a price that must be paid
Speaker 3: and can never be paid in full. Sarah must now
Speaker 3: seek out certain sacrifices. So there's a list. It's almost
Speaker 3: like a like a like a like a scavenger hunt
Speaker 3: has to seek out certain sacrifices to make to the
Speaker 3: dark Lord. But what happens when the offerings hit close
Speaker 3: to home and Sarah must hand over the people closest
Speaker 3: to her and I don't remember if we get close
Speaker 3: to her family, I know her roommates are all basically
Speaker 3: dead at this point. Sorry to spoil, sorry eyes, but
Speaker 3: still see it. But like again, like like does she
Speaker 3: like you know, you you become famous, or you move
Speaker 3: to LA and you don't go home anymore and visit
Speaker 3: your friends and that, so it's just like, oh, I'll
Speaker 3: just go back and find my best friend from high
Speaker 3: school and sacrifice them fuck it. And it's just so
Speaker 3: that it's like, yeah, but we also need this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's like her having to like you know, slowly
Speaker 3: but surely, uh you know, like make those sacrifices, almost
Speaker 3: similar to like I'm got a blank on it now,
Speaker 3: But there was like another movie where there was like
Speaker 3: about having to like you know, you know, knock someone
Speaker 3: else off in order to like it was almost like Drake,
Speaker 3: what am I thinking of the substance and she's just
Speaker 3: like draining. Maybe I'm just thinking of her like like
Speaker 3: like all of the Final Destination movies are like that too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's basically yeah with a ring and like passing it
Speaker 3: along and stuff like that. Yep, or it follows, It
Speaker 3: follows yep, very very much. So Yeah, and again he
Speaker 3: might even be a good I mean know what those
Speaker 3: two directors are doing now, but I think he would
Speaker 3: be a good replacement if they didn't do it.
Speaker 2: He's working on something else. And then the actual sequel
Speaker 2: to it follows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I thought if All's sequel is his next movie.
Speaker 2: He's got one coming out in twenty twenty six. I
Speaker 2: literally just looked this up because we were looking at
Speaker 2: him for something else.
Speaker 3: But the two directors from The Starry Eyes because it
Speaker 3: was a dual group. Yes, do are they still doing stuff?
Speaker 2: I believe so?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because they could do it. I mean I
Speaker 3: would still want to have that kind of very grindhousey
Speaker 3: feel to it. You know, it had that very like
Speaker 3: seventies like Polanski esque feel to it. Uh.
Speaker 2: Kevin Kolsch and Dennis Widmeyer are the directors on this one.
Speaker 3: I really feel that that deserves a much better release.
Speaker 3: I agree, Mike, I think that could absolutely be a
Speaker 3: second site release.
Speaker 2: Did not like that they did pet Cemetery.
Speaker 3: Oh that is what fine enough? I want to signed
Speaker 3: copy of pet Cemetery remake from them. I have it.
Speaker 3: It's here, well somewhere on my shelf. It's signed by them.
Speaker 3: I went it off a podcast. I also have a
Speaker 3: pet Cemetery hoodie that I won from them, but I
Speaker 3: just never wear it.
Speaker 2: I love that we keep getting these random things that
Speaker 2: are similar. You got a director's duo, My next one
Speaker 2: is the director's Duo. Everything just keeps coming up, even
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 3: It wheels within wheels with speaking more grow ficks because
Speaker 3: I forget. I'm really still waiting for under the Silver
Speaker 3: Light to get a nice DELOCKX edition.
Speaker 2: Let's just talk about this too.
Speaker 3: I really, I mean second sight. I just I feel
Speaker 3: like it's gonna happen. I feel like it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: That or a twenty four finally give it a proper
Speaker 2: release and not just a BDR.
Speaker 3: Yes, well you can get the UK release and it's
Speaker 3: not a BDR, right right, But is it Liones who
Speaker 3: put it out? Is lions Gate?
Speaker 2: It was the when lions getting a twenty four. We're
Speaker 2: still doing their stuff together.
Speaker 3: Steel book. It's gonna be a gun slip over steel book,
Speaker 3: That's what it's going to be. Well it will if
Speaker 3: South Paul can do it, they can do with this.
Speaker 3: But go ahead, all right, what's your next doing.
Speaker 2: My last one? It is by a couple of people
Speaker 2: that are related and I am proposing an all practical
Speaker 2: effects still directed by the Chiotos brothers. Killer Clowns from
Speaker 2: across the County Line is the name of the sequel.
Speaker 2: It is about a Now that the UFO has come
Speaker 2: and everybody's seen the attack of the Killer Clowns. Now
Speaker 2: the Killer Clowns have replenished their population on Earth because
Speaker 2: some of them had died in the first film, and
Speaker 2: they are out for revenge against the people that hurt them,
Speaker 2: but they just simply can't find them. So now they
Speaker 2: essentially make up a traveling circus that they look like
Speaker 2: and they start abducting random people from every city that
Speaker 2: they stop in, and at the very end they finally
Speaker 2: get everybody, and it just ends up into this crazy
Speaker 2: like carnival of mass murder in the very last city.
Speaker 2: And uh, instead of killing all the clowns, they just
Speaker 2: simply get away, and so it leaves it open for
Speaker 2: a possibility for them to come back. But yes, Killer
Speaker 2: Clowns from Across the County Line is.
Speaker 3: Both those directors are still around with us.
Speaker 2: I believe that Childo's brothers are still like alive and
Speaker 2: doing cons and everything.
Speaker 3: If they weren't, I would say I could love I
Speaker 3: would love to see either Tim Burton or Peter Jackson
Speaker 3: go back and completely gross out like dead alive type
Speaker 3: of kinpe of thing. Yeah, like Peewee's Big Adventure, just
Speaker 3: like road trip Clowns in a van.
Speaker 2: Carrie Mulligan says, how about killer Clowns in a cornfield
Speaker 2: with the cornfield spilled with the.
Speaker 3: K Harry Mulligan is just wanting us to get in trouble.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: For the KKK movie.
Speaker 2: It's the one set in Alabama, right.
Speaker 3: And all they do is the Klondike bars.
Speaker 2: With but yeah, fun movie, lots of practical effects, of course,
Speaker 2: lots of zany imagery. But also killer clowns have gotten
Speaker 2: extremely popular. I mean they're all over spirit Halloween. Now
Speaker 2: they've got the video game that is coming out or whatever.
Speaker 3: It would make win.
Speaker 2: It would make a fuck ton of money if they started.
Speaker 3: Making it, absolutely and then everyone would start doing it
Speaker 3: for Halloween.
Speaker 2: Yep, to have this.
Speaker 3: Now what the first one is? Is it set in
Speaker 3: the fifties sixties or is it so sweet it's still
Speaker 3: in the.
Speaker 2: Oh it was modern time, okay if I remember maybe
Speaker 2: the opening is from like a year prior maybe not.
Speaker 3: I don't have such a B movie appeal that it's
Speaker 3: just like my only word is that. And then they
Speaker 3: modernize it and just be like, would you set in
Speaker 3: the modern war? You would try to make it eighties
Speaker 3: nineties again, like.
Speaker 2: I would, I would probably try to make it early nineties.
Speaker 2: It would be like a short time after like the
Speaker 2: the clowns that were here got attacked, and they went
Speaker 2: back to their planet and regrouped, and now they have
Speaker 2: to come back and take revenge. That way, we don't
Speaker 2: have to worry about cell phones. You don't have to
Speaker 2: worry about technology. Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 3: Once it's like because then you start going into like
Speaker 3: the joking thing of like are they going to become
Speaker 3: Instagram famous or like what is it? You know? Yeah,
Speaker 3: like more of an isolated like a tremor's about Like yeah,
Speaker 3: I like it, man, I well I had anything to
Speaker 3: go back to practical effects. I've always said, like practical effects.
Speaker 3: No matter how fake something looks, the brain just registers
Speaker 3: physical things better than digital. He just knows it. It's
Speaker 3: it's not it's not an opinion thing. It's just the
Speaker 3: way your brain works. So if you see something slimy
Speaker 3: and grows splitting apart or ooze coming out of it,
Speaker 3: your brain just knows that that's a physical thing you're
Speaker 3: looking as opposed to digital.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So even though it look you're like, oh, that's just
Speaker 3: you know, fake slime, or like you look at all
Speaker 3: this stuff from videodrome and it like the VHS tape
Speaker 3: and all the bubbling, it's like you can kind of
Speaker 3: it's plastic. Oh you're still seeing something bubble and when
Speaker 3: something bubble.
Speaker 2: You're like, it means a lot more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, let's see what that's why I hear it
Speaker 3: is another Clowns. Oh yeah, didn't the Clowns have a game?
Speaker 2: It must have already come out. I thought it was
Speaker 2: yet to come out. I didn't realize it already.
Speaker 3: I thought it was like a PS two game or
Speaker 3: something like that. I thought, I remember, man, I'm just
Speaker 3: thinking of something that looks like Killer Clowns. It's like
Speaker 3: a Crazy Taxi or crash Bandicoot because crash Bandicoot kind
Speaker 3: of looks like it belongs in the Killer clown world.
Speaker 2: Well, the Killer Clowns almost look like they belong in
Speaker 2: like Twisted Metal.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking of, twist because I think the
Speaker 3: clown thing is supposed to be yeah right, okay, my way,
Speaker 3: it's not that okay yeause. Otherwise again, just like the Dinosaur,
Speaker 3: the full metal jacket thing, they're all right. Last title,
Speaker 3: last title, and this is the longest. It's the longest one.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, I'm gonna read real fast because it's basically
Speaker 3: just the opening scene. Because I've had again this is
Speaker 3: when I've had in my head for a while, and
Speaker 3: because I don't own the rights, I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 3: They're kind of try. If someone sees it, they may
Speaker 3: take it, but I'm gonna So this is my proposal
Speaker 3: for Scream seven.
Speaker 2: Oh God, because I don't like the trailer for that
Speaker 2: drop today, right.
Speaker 3: Did it really? Yeah? I don't find I'm sure I'll
Speaker 3: watch it later. These last two no, blano, No, it's
Speaker 3: just not for me because it's just the same type
Speaker 3: of thing. It's like, don't blame the fans. It's the
Speaker 3: same prince anyway. And that was not shot in New York,
Speaker 3: by the way. That was my biggest qualm.
Speaker 2: That is not New absolutely, it's not even the US.
Speaker 3: It is just like you cannot get like it's nighttime
Speaker 3: by the time they get to one of the scenes,
Speaker 3: I'm like it was just daytime. Out to get the
Speaker 3: up riverside from Central Park takes five minutes anyway. All right,
Speaker 3: So Scream seven movie opens like all the others, phone
Speaker 3: call to a young woman home alone. We go through
Speaker 3: the regular troops of the series. A chase ensues, but
Speaker 3: unlike usual, the woman is triumphant and kills ghost Face
Speaker 3: just before a cop arrives. After they kick in the door.
Speaker 3: The cop pulls the mask off and the two look
Speaker 3: down at the guy. There's a pause, big dramatic pause,
Speaker 3: and the cop says, you know him. There's another long
Speaker 3: pause and the woman shakes her head and says no.
Speaker 3: The title rolls and then it's revealed that we're not
Speaker 3: in Woodsboro. It's a whole different town. We're dealing with
Speaker 3: the cult of ghost Face. It's now become an online
Speaker 3: secret society that has spread to different small towns across
Speaker 3: the US. The movie plays out with a different ghost
Speaker 3: face being revealed about every twenty minutes, almost like mini
Speaker 3: movies on masking many of the minor characters seen on screen.
Speaker 3: So just when you think the movie's over, it's like,
Speaker 3: what that Like they're being intact in like ever it
Speaker 3: is a you know, a diner or you know, a
Speaker 3: hotel room or whatever it is, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you think this one's going to go the whole time,
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh no, there's this whole thing going round.
Speaker 3: So the guy that witnessed it, he could also be
Speaker 3: a ghost face. This is like fight club. Uh, who shoot,
Speaker 3: I just lost my place ghost it Now it becomes
Speaker 3: an honorably but but but but The movie plays out
Speaker 3: with the different ghostace room but boo. By the end,
Speaker 3: it's revealed that the people unmasked couldn't have committed all
Speaker 3: the murders. Cut to a mid credit scene where one
Speaker 3: of the characters has left the town or escaped the town,
Speaker 3: and is revealed to be the last ghost face that
Speaker 3: was doing the killings that got away. They approach an
Speaker 3: unmarked door halfway through an alley. They knock and are
Speaker 3: led in after answering the secret passphrase. They're led down
Speaker 3: a long corridor to what looks like a small arena
Speaker 3: with stadium seating. The place is packed with ghost faces.
Speaker 3: He puts his mask on and joins the crowd, just
Speaker 3: as they are silenced by the speaker of the house,
Speaker 3: which is revealed to be Stew Macher, whose faces heavily
Speaker 3: scarred up, almost like Jigsaw from Punisher war Zone. He
Speaker 3: says a few words to get them all riled up.
Speaker 3: They cheer, then he silences them again and says, with
Speaker 3: all sincerity, but wait, there's more. Yes, I.
Speaker 2: It's basically confirmed the stew is going to be in
Speaker 2: or Matthew Lillard is going to be in scream set.
Speaker 3: Well that's it sounds like Wes Craven's New Nightmare is
Speaker 3: what they're doing. Yeah, which is great. I'm just saying
Speaker 3: as far as like the Woodsboro story, it's like this
Speaker 3: town is fucked, Like how how many more times can this?
Speaker 3: But at some point and just like these last companies
Speaker 3: have done, it's like it's gone online and odds are
Speaker 3: like if ghost Face was a real thing, there would
Speaker 3: be a cult, there would be a QAnon type group,
Speaker 3: like you know, all these like embittered people that are like,
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, are taking up the mantle of ghost
Speaker 3: Face because they're avenging the thing that they're bitter about.
Speaker 3: So the idea of like it's not just like the
Speaker 3: person it's like, oh it's so and so who used
Speaker 3: to date Billy who is now pissed off, And it's
Speaker 3: like you can connect the dots. It's like it could
Speaker 3: be it literally could be anybody. So it's like you
Speaker 3: have a town where it's like like some type of
Speaker 3: New England town where like people are coming to visit.
Speaker 3: It could be fourth of July, it could be summer,
Speaker 3: and it's like you have all these people renting like
Speaker 3: airbnbs and stuff like that, So all these people have
Speaker 3: come to the town, so you just have a plethora,
Speaker 3: because that's my favorite part of the screen franchise. They
Speaker 3: always when you're in the middle and trying to guess,
Speaker 3: but after a while, it just gets narrowed down to
Speaker 3: you're like, all right, it's so and so, like there's
Speaker 3: no other possible person. And these last the last couple
Speaker 3: of ones were just like almost like impossible to get them. Like,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna spoil the list, even
Speaker 3: though it's thinking it's terrible, I'm not gonna spoil the
Speaker 3: last scream. But there's things in the last scream where
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, that says not physically fucking possible. Now
Speaker 3: you're just bending the rules of reality to fit the story,
Speaker 3: whereas the first one was like you can go back
Speaker 3: and look and like while he was killing them, they
Speaker 3: were making the phone call or they were doing like
Speaker 3: you can really piece back together. And again, why are
Speaker 3: you telling the story? Is it just a fit a
Speaker 3: is it just a forcing a round peg into a
Speaker 3: square hole just to get us out, or are you
Speaker 3: telling a different type of story? So I might would
Speaker 3: be like turning ghost Face into fight Club. Basically interesting.
Speaker 2: That sounds more intriguing than the Scream seven trailer was.
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna watch it. I'll still probably go see it.
Speaker 3: Did you give your fifth one?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 3: Yeah. My other honorable mention, I didn't even have a
Speaker 3: plot synopsis, but I had urban legends cyber myths, and
Speaker 3: so I had it like basically all these like like
Speaker 3: you know, all this misinformation on a college campus. It's
Speaker 3: basically like someone like bringing to life all these stupid
Speaker 3: like urban leg life. Yeah, like creepy pasta and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, or like you know, killing someone at like
Speaker 3: a like a pizza parlor, like a pizza gate type
Speaker 3: of dyun. Yeah, because I think urban legend. I think
Speaker 3: I love Urban legends. Final Cut I really one of
Speaker 3: the movies I always talked about. I'm like, no, I
Speaker 3: want to go watch a religious I Don't Come again.
Speaker 3: And John Aubman directed, scored, and edited the movie, which
Speaker 3: is amazing, But it was never a franchise that I
Speaker 3: think got enough because then the third one was like
Speaker 3: not even related to it. It was right, not at
Speaker 3: all supernatural, and I think like that was a thing
Speaker 3: that you could have just expanded. There's so many urban legends,
Speaker 3: you know, there's so many college campuses, you know, and
Speaker 3: it's a far more robust cast than it deserves to have.
Speaker 2: Joshua Chickson.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say Robert Englin, but okay, Pace Lever,
Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, I mean you have, yeah, you have
Speaker 3: about Brad Duraff. You know, for the time Natasha Gregson
Speaker 3: Williams was like real rare to get into a horror movie.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we're not gonna talk about Jared Letto,
Speaker 3: but but I mean Alicia Witt, I mean it was
Speaker 3: a it was a I think that mood desires a
Speaker 3: lot more credit the pantheon of nineties post scream. What
Speaker 3: else can we do?
Speaker 2: You know? Not much, that's the question. Yeah, these are fun.
Speaker 2: I love pitching some of these.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I definitely think it kind of
Speaker 3: like all blended in with like what we had industry planned,
Speaker 3: like you and I. If anyone doesn't know, like I
Speaker 3: pitch ideas to Ryan like even months out, even tonight,
Speaker 3: like I'll be like, hey, the next time I'm on
Speaker 3: in six minutes, let's do this, And it's like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, about this, I don't know, so.
Speaker 2: I will say, going off of your last sequel pitch,
Speaker 2: there was a director that I was dming on Instagram
Speaker 2: for a little while that was actually up for possibly
Speaker 2: directing the next Scream Wow, And we were pitching some
Speaker 2: ideas back and forth. And one thing that we we
Speaker 2: touched on that I feel like would be really cool
Speaker 2: to see is for the first time, ghost Face wears
Speaker 2: a white cloak and you set Scream in the snow
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 3: I would not say, it's gonna look.
Speaker 2: Bad, right, It's gonna look bad, but the mask sets
Speaker 2: it off so it doesn't look that bad. So you
Speaker 2: want face, ghost Face, hold on, hold on. The coolest
Speaker 2: thing though, is the deaths in the snow would look
Speaker 2: so different than just the the the deaths in like
Speaker 2: a dark house, well.
Speaker 3: A ski lodge. Yeah, one hundred. I love a snowy scenario.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like, what's the not iced But what's
Speaker 3: the other one? The rock slaughter rock or whatever was
Speaker 3: the one that just just put out, uh out of
Speaker 3: snow bunnies and stuff?
Speaker 2: Is it snow tracks?
Speaker 3: No, it's track.
Speaker 2: It's death tracks, death tracks, death tracks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you did last Winter. I just did.
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: I have funny enough one of the ones that I
Speaker 2: was trying to think of, like how could you make
Speaker 2: a sequel for it? I loved Adam Green's Frozen, and
Speaker 2: I was like, that's just too contained of a story,
Speaker 2: like yeah, you say they get caught again, Like no.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean that's basically like open water. It's
Speaker 3: like how many or or or fall? Yeah, which is this? Yeh?
Speaker 3: I mean, to me, the best if you want to
Speaker 3: talk about like someone's trapped and isolating the business. If
Speaker 3: you haven't seen it buried, Oh, it's so good. His
Speaker 3: hands down, Ryan Realds is best performance. Fuck Deadpool. This
Speaker 3: was like, this is clear the movie that he made.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm going to be a real actor and
Speaker 3: then he's making money and he's like, well I guess
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But like if you watch that film, the fact that
Speaker 3: they don't ever use the same angle twice, it's pretty
Speaker 3: great and it's all in a box. It is really
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 2: That movie.
Speaker 3: Is ripe for rediscovery. I agree, I agree, I definitely.
Speaker 2: And he was a little weak, but it's a fun movie.
Speaker 3: No, without getting anything away, it can only we'll talk
Speaker 3: off screen, Yeah, we'll talk of.
Speaker 2: But yes, on that note, I think that's all we wrote.
Speaker 2: Anything that you want to shout up before we call
Speaker 2: it a night.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's always a players to do these things.
Speaker 3: I wish there was a little bit more tea to
Speaker 3: spill this week. I wish Show Factory had like a
Speaker 3: noun like we're only doing cartoons now. I don't know,
Speaker 3: something like that said something really or left like like
Speaker 3: type some like weird cryptic email.
Speaker 2: They sold all of their physical media rights to Sandpiper.
Speaker 3: Exactly, were like sent out a tweet that was like
Speaker 3: kofifi or so over at shout I will say. I
Speaker 3: mean that that the that hard boiled thing I think
Speaker 3: is the most telling of all the events that have transpired,
Speaker 3: not saying because I know everyone's been on Reddit being like,
Speaker 3: oh orbit dude said all these people have been laid off,
Speaker 3: which is apparently not true. It's it's just.
Speaker 2: All kinds of people have been laid off. Fourteen percent
Speaker 2: of their workforce was actually laid off. That is true.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that is true.
Speaker 2: Now none of them could be from physical media, but
Speaker 2: we do know that there have been some changes in
Speaker 2: physical media, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: But the but the but the now how shout acumen
Speaker 3: in the face. She'll semen saying we will be fulfilling
Speaker 3: your pre orders, but we just might not be making
Speaker 3: any more.
Speaker 2: No, it's no people are people are just assuming.
Speaker 3: So so the idea is now, so all those pre
Speaker 3: orders from the third party companies may not be fulfilled.
Speaker 3: But if you pre ordered from shout directly, are you
Speaker 3: getting it?
Speaker 2: I would assume so. I mean they they cancel all
Speaker 2: the orders, but who knows.
Speaker 3: Look there's another person I'm not gonna name names, but
Speaker 3: they were rumored to be going bankrupt because their ship
Speaker 3: was still at the printers. Where there's smoke, there's a
Speaker 3: fire in the murder Pieces pieces. Speaking of underrated bottle films,
Speaker 3: another great Ethan Hogworld too. His tape I tape has
Speaker 3: been unavent. I mean you can get the DVD probably
Speaker 3: on eBay, but never seen it. It's is tape is
Speaker 3: link later right, Remind me if I'm wrong. These are
Speaker 3: again periods where like Ethan Hawke did like a gazillion films,
Speaker 3: but I know he did something similar with the link later.
Speaker 3: I think Tate might be Yeah, it's been very unavailable.
Speaker 3: That's there's a couple of link later films that need
Speaker 3: to get re released, Waking Life, Suburbia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, on that note, Uh, follow Dan's Instagram
Speaker 2: as you can see the description below.
Speaker 3: Uh, there's a couple of uncollectibles.
Speaker 2: You know, anybody why there's no sales happening right now.
Speaker 3: Supporting an American friend.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Next week Will is back. It's the first of the month,
Speaker 2: of course, so we'll be covering OCN and everything else.
Speaker 2: Lots to discuss next time. Lots of fun guests coming
Speaker 2: up for November. Gods every twenty eight days, all right,
Speaker 2: I think that's all I got. Patreon stuff. I've been
Speaker 2: giving some short little teases of stuff happening behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: If you want to get in on those, go subscribe
Speaker 2: to the Patreon. Some big things getting announced in the
Speaker 2: coming couple of months. One big one. I chose the
Speaker 2: co host for the next chelf Shock Rewind Awards, and
Speaker 2: we'll be talking about that publicly soon. It's not Dan Siven. Sorry,
Speaker 2: We're gonna get Dan to do something fun for it, though.
Speaker 3: We'll try.
Speaker 2: All Right, until next week, folks, stay safe. It's Halloween
Speaker 2: and it's a Friday, which means some people are gonna
Speaker 2: go a little crazy.
Speaker 3: So anything I wouldn't do, which doesn't really you know,
Speaker 3: narrow down.
Speaker 2: All right, We'll see you next Thursday. Me Ronnie the best.
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