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Speaker 1: Hello ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Gimmick,

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your first episode of December, last episode of twenty twenty.

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It might be we'll see, we'll see. The next episode

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is we'll see. But I am, as always the Canadian

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Nightmare trest now and I'm joined by a man that

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I am very sad for. Justice for Stu. David.

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Speaker 2: How's it going going Goodmmin?

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Speaker 3: Stu got robbed of his opportunity to make his impact

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on John Cena's last match, so justice for Stue.

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Speaker 1: I could not. But there's a lot of things I

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couldn't believe last night. That was one of them. Of

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just I wonder if he said anything, because I know

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that John c did this whole weird apology tour where

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he's like, oh, I didn't tell the office he was

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doing the age entrance thing, and I just didn't want

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to make anyone mad night. That was a mistake. It's

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like he should have learned that. But like that, that

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was so egregious. I hope they like post edited after

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the fact, but yeah, I was so annoyed. I just

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felt like just go. It felt very much like the

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Kevin Dunn era. But uh, yeah, it's weird the stuff.

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But we were joined by real heat brother, the man

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who's been getting leeching tons of points off of John

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Cena's last run. S Bubs, how you doing today?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I how do you feel now? Your point getter

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John Cena officially retired? Obviously he's only gonna give you

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a goose egg for a little bit, but uh, you

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know you gotta replace him, I guess now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But I think so far, I did the draft

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points so far, and I think my new picks are

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definitely doing a lot better than everyone I had before.

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Speaker 1: So for people that don't watch the video, it just

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looks like s pub says the background of seeing punk

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and Cody putting the title on scene it but it

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just looks like they're putting it on like their whole mass,

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Bubs by the back of the head or something. But yeah,

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primarily that's what we're gonna talk about today. Obviously, mostly

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we're gonna start off with see his last match. We'll

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talk about overall Sorry Nights to Man, and then and

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then just some other ww B NXT stuff we'll touch

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upon on aw World end a little bit, and then

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the C two because yeah, we're gonna figure that out

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because obviously the World's endpay Review is always a shitty

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spot the day after Blox Day, the twenty seven, So

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we'll see.

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Speaker 4: When we get to that weekend.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if it lines up, maybe we'll do something like

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the twenty eighth, like the Sunday, But if it doesn't,

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we'll do it in the new year, and then, as

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we've said before, the New Year will catch up on

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Gmode as well.

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Speaker 4: There'll be a couple months.

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Speaker 1: We'll do two episodes that because we got to finish

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the season. But yeah, that's kind of the plan. So

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whether it might be the last week of December or

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first week of January, lookout, that's and we'll talk about

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worlds End and whatever else is going on. W we'll

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see because let's see the Yeah, the raw shows the fifth, right,

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so that's kind of too far, So yeah, we'll probably

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have something in between that. But yeah, we're here today

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to talk about I ain't calling him the goat. I'm

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not doing this whole revisionist history thing. And i know

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they're trying to push that, and I guarantee you just

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watch when Roman Rains retires, they're gonna do the same thing.

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Because Johnsen has already been like, well, I can consider

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Rome Rains to be the goat, so I feel like it's.

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Speaker 4: A whoever is the booker, whoever is the era?

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Speaker 1: Like that's who is the current goat and then we

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move belong right, But we did get that yes during

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day So I guess we'll just start with the overalls.

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I'll ask you, David, what do you think overall the show,

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and then after we will talk about seeing this match

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firston'll goal individually, but overall as far as far as

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the event, obviously, it was a four match card kind

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of similar to pl E. They other than like the

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announcing stand, they kind of dropped out all the sun

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nights may event like classic retro stuff. So how do

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you feel about this event overall? Before we get to

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the one by one?

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Speaker 3: Overall, I feel like it was a very predictable pl

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all right, I see where they're going with each one's

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but there were some good matches sprinkled within the predictability

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of it. And then it comes to the ending, and

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you know they always say it's how you leave them

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going home that they'll remember and I'm definitely going to

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remember how they left me going home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about us bubs?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I enjoyed the show, and i'd say for the matches, well,

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i'd say I like, get more.

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Speaker 6: Now it's only.

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Speaker 5: On Peacock with the Doctor, aren't the commercial breaks between

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the matches, Because even in person, like because I went

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to one of the Saturday nights to main events, and

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like when they went to commercial, it was like, well,

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it's like, well, you know, the match is ending, Like I.

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Speaker 6: Remember it was like the tag match.

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Speaker 5: It was like Seth and bron versus like.

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Speaker 4: Like Samon, right, yeah.

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Speaker 5: And so they were working over Sammy is like, well

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they're not gonna hot tag punkin until the end of

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those commercial.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So, so I liked it more.

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Speaker 5: I've I've been liking it more in that way where

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it's kind of just like a normal plea now pretty much.

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And as for the final match, I did really like

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the final match and and and I liked the ending,

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so I was I was it's been funny looking at

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all the people online.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to get to that because it's been

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it's been It's definitely I think they will know why

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event and I'll talk about but definitely is cycling something

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that's happened before as far as just like the reaction

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to it. But yeah, the show overall, I'm the opposite

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end where I pretty much I hated the show like

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it's it is like the fl but man, just the

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amount of downtime we had. There was just this one

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sequence where the match and like okay, and now we're

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going to johnsona's last match, and then they go to

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Stephan Joe. That's like okay, they talk and they showed

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john scene a tribute video and theny go back to

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Stephan Joe and I'm just sitting here. I'm just like,

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I'm just cycling. I'm spinning out. I cannot believe like

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how many times we gotta go to and like Stephan

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her and Joe have any chemistry whatsoever. It's so like

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I just think they aren't a great pairing. So it

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just feels very robotic effect. I'm having no fun at there,

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at least with Jesse, which I agree that they should

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not have him on the main proadcast because he just

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says shit they don't want. But at least it was like, well,

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what's he gonna say? Right, But this is just it

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feels awkward. And even the tributes throughout the show were

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We're fine, but they just felt very just like sound clippy.

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don't need to be like a Johnson a Dead tribute show,

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but just something a bit more. And like I hate

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the celebrities with their jokes, like Peyton Manning was my

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favorite quarterbacks, Like I hope you know they don't play

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your music at them all. It's like we bumped this

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for somebody else, Like we can't have like anybody doing stuff. Yeah,

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I think I guess we go in the other matches.

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The other matches, I think we're all. I liked Coda Coda,

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I like Ova and Cody a lot, but they did

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the trope that I hate, so that brought all down.

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the tag I thought was very entertaining, but I thought

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it was a lot shorter than I was expecting. I

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thought they're gonna let him go a little bit crazy

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for sure. Yeah, so everything kind of knew.

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Speaker 5: Sure when they did like like the Leon Slater like

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jump over the corner of the post, he.

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Speaker 1: Does that, like that's like it's his shoulder blocks.

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Speaker 6: Like he does that, he throws, Okay.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that ring and he does the four

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fifty like that's his sequence of the match.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and even Barley.

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Speaker 1: So we will get there. But at the beginning I

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thought it was like a little clunky, but they got

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there and then the the final match, which we'll get into. Now.

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Speaker 4: I am with I'm with.

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Speaker 1: Some people where and I'm with us Bubbs, and I'm

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not sure I think David's with us too, but.

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Speaker 4: I I'm a supporter of the finish.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe this because I've been very, like many people,

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very critical Triple H's retirement to where I think a

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lot of it's been not good. I think we're in

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Triple H's like really low period right now. But just

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for the gimmick, I'm wearing a nice O eight Triple

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H shirt that I can fit again now that I've.

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Speaker 4: Lost some weight.

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Speaker 1: I it's so interesting because I feel like the reaction

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to this is very similar to the streak ending. It

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say just for for something I found funny,

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is that like the tweet from the ww account of

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like John Cena has retired, Yeah, like three hundred and

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fifty thousand likes, and then a tweet calling for Triple

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Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah, And that's that's the thing. That's where

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like everything I've seen, because I'm gonna tell this draws

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totally more like people with scoopers and people with this stuff.

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It's not that serious. As we've said before, there are

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so many wrestling promotions. And that's how I got back

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into New Japan. Like whenever twenty nineteen or twenty like

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eighteen seventeen, when the product was his Dog Shit, I

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like tapped out on New Japan and I went back

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into it, and then I've watched you know, the lead

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in then aw was there. That's where it's like forever everybody,

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it's like either you don't watch weekly or you.

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Speaker 4: Can just do other stuff.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to be talking about killing drivel age

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for like this, and this is what we're the weird think.

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that supposed as a newer fan, and I think there

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are people that like it. I think I understood what

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the Undertaker one, as far as I think you can

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always debate with the streak should and it should have

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not ended, right, I can understand that. I do think

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the biggest complaint better match least well, absolutely yeah he

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could cut yeah, and he wasn't gonna cut yeah, And

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I was there live and that was brutal, right, But

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even I think the bigger argument with the the Taker

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thing is they chose the wrong guy, right, which even

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with Lesler take out the real life stuff for that year,

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it did heat him up. But you could have made

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an argument that maybe, yeah, eventually a couple of years later,

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the big dog beats him and maybe you should just

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saved it with this.

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Speaker 4: I don't have.

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Speaker 1: That because it's just and that's I'm very happy the

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way the match went, because I was worried the first

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five minutes of the match is good the wrestling him,

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and the first move scene hits is the shoulder block,

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and I was like, oh my, Like for I think

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it was about the first seven to eight minutes. All

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seen a hit was just signature moves. He hit the shoulder,

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he did the five moves of do him twice, he

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did the the fu, he did the attitude, or he

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did the STF. So I was like, oh my God,

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like Scenea's just doing this. So I was happy that

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it did evolve because I was really worried it was

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he kept like trying to like land on his shoulder.

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I don't know why, don't do like. I was worried,

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especially the table spot. He landed right on the side

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and he's going there. But so the match, the match evolved,

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and then we got this moment where Sena tapped out,

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and yeah, I was four it because I understand people

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that are big fans and love. Maybe we'll talk about

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this a little bit too. But like with Sina, when

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I couldn't find the picture, I have a picture from

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SummerSlam O five when he was getting booed, but I

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was there. I was rocking. I bought myself the chain

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gay necklets, like I had a huge John Cena fran

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from three to six and then he got he dropped

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the wrapper stuff and got very cheesy, and that's the

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same thing for me. It's just I don't have the

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love for John scene that many other people do in

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my era or a little younger, because a lot of

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it wasn't his fault, but his booking in him on

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top was a part of a lot of the some

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of the worst years in WW. And I don't think

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that's all him, but there's it just kind of he

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represents that, right, he represents when Punk's having his historic run,

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that he's main eventing a pay per view with John

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Lorenight is in a cage, right, So for me, I'm

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not a nostalgic like part of those reasons of you

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not watching WW was how they booked Sina, Right, that's

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not completely his fault, but to get to the tap out,

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where I understand, oh, well, he's a never give up character.

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But if he passes out, which I think the other

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problem is we've seen so many pass outs the last

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like five years that it's almost that finish is overdone,

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and it feels like someone's protecting himself. If he passes out, Okay,

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it protects him and you kind of get Goo through

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getting the big win. If he taps out, though, which

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he did, it makes Goonter look like a monster and

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it gives them so much. And that's the point, because

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I've seen the biggest argument is how do you have

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the guy that never gives up tap out because his

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career is over. He's not building to anything else down Like, yeah,

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he's done, like he's done being as far as now

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right obviously Saudi bag. But let's just say he does

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stay retired, like the character of John Cena can't.

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Speaker 5: Give us say, I don't think he's actually gonna wrestle

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in Saudi, but he will.

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Speaker 1: He'll be there, I agree, I agree exactly, or even

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that's the year they do the whole fame and he's

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there to like the wave, but like, yeah, I just

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to me, it's just that's the thing where it is

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building the next guy, right, and they kind of they

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did that with the streak again, you could argue the

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right person. I think Guthor is the right person. We'll

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see how this career killer thing kind of goes, they continued.

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Speaker 4: I hope they do.

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Speaker 1: But that's my reason, Like I do understand that point.

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But Scena's not gonna be around anymore. He's he's done.

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So this puts guntherro over. It makes him a killer.

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Gunther should not lose for a while. To me, like,

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even then, if you're gonna have have nothing for him

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to dude, just have him cut promos just for me.

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It's just.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 1: It was a bigger moment of Scena tapping out and

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before I throw to one of you guys. The reason

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I just love that finish is because it was seven

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minutes of it, and I like that it was finally

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just man, I can't do this anymore, Like I literally can't.

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I could try to keep fighting, but he has me.

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Speaker 4: That's it. It's over for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tap out. And that's where it was kind

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of like a veteran realizing oh I'm I am done,

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And it kind of fits with Scena. The whole time

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is being like, oh, my body's breaking down. So it's

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like I physically can't get this guy off me seeing

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it from ten years ago, could have seen it from

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twenty years ago, could have, but this John Cena can't.

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And that's why it has to retire. So that's why

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I understand some people upset. But it's just there's not like, Okay,

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if he passes out or wins k you preserve the

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legacy of John Cena, but then he doesn't do anything

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in his last match.

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Speaker 4: It's just for John.

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Speaker 1: And John's got enough fucking moments over the last two decades,

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Like he was on top for so many times, beat

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so many guys. I don't think he should have. But

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I was fully in favor. But you were also in

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favor of the finish, yes, yeah, yeah, And what do

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you think of the match?

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Speaker 6: Obviously, Yeah, I really.

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Speaker 5: Liked the match overall, Like like I said, well, it

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was actually like I was like maybe like thirty seconds

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behind or something because I had to go away for

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a second, so I just paused and came back. So

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you guys like in the chid you're like, oh, it

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was like finisher spam, But I was on the I

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was on the spot where like Goonther was just like

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hitting in with like the lariat over and over and over.

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Speaker 6: So I was like, just drastic, that's like shirt.

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Speaker 5: But you know, but after that he got up and

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started doing like his his sequence.

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Speaker 6: But I really liked the match.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like like you said, at the start, it felt like, yeah,

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it's like, oh, scene is going like he's just gonna

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go all out. But I like how you know, Goother

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kept putting putting the damage on him, and I thought

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it was I didn't see it didn't feel as long

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as I think it probably was. I'll say like once

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once Sena got out of just again beaten down, I

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felt like like David was saying, like, oh, this is

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slower than I expected.

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Speaker 6: I say, I wasn't really expecting like a.

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Speaker 5: Fast match from from Sena and goothert, but I thought

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it had a good pace and yet I like the

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finish where it's like he got out of one. How

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many did he like get up out of at the very.

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Speaker 1: End for the the joke, I think it was like

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three times.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah it was.

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Speaker 3: It was he had the one he got out of it,

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so he put he threw them against the ring and

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then Gunter immediately came back, got another one, started putting

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to sleep.

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Speaker 2: They did the three count. He popped up with the three.

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Speaker 3: Fingers and then after that that's when Gunter started raining

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down the elbows three fingers.

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Speaker 1: Right, what a spot. That was such a cheesey spot.

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It's fine, but yeah, then he did like the Death Rioters,

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Brian Elbows and everything like that. I will Chris Browns,

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I will try to find it. It's a it's a

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picture of me at oh five Summer Slam. I had

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a Matt Hardy shirt because I was a massive mark

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of Matt Hardy at the time. And it's literally it's

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me doing the whole world life and I have the

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chain I wore. I even bought they. Uh they made

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rubber knuckles. I'm not sure. Did you ever see like

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the videos back in like oh for when Johnson was

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rocking like design But yeah, so they saw those, but

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they were rubber. It was so it was such a

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letdown because the picture it was rubber.

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Speaker 4: The picture looked so.

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Speaker 1: Much better when you got them. They were the cheapest

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things in the world. I was so fissed as a kid,

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but oh yeah, I was. I was a massive fan

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of seeing it back then and then obviously just took

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overrestling for decades and just a reign of terror sometimes

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to me. But yeah, yeah, well.

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Speaker 3: I am okay with the finish of the match, especially

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the fact that he came out of three of those

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sleeper attempts. You know, it was finally like, all right,

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he tapped out. There's there's nothing for him after this.

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There's no rematch for a championship, there's no I gotta

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come back Monday and face the audience. You know, this

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is it, and he knows he's riding out, so it

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made sense for him it and the look on his

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face when he tapped out was just like I'm giving up,

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I'm done, So that all made sense from a storyline perspective.

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I will say this, the match did last longer than

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I expected it to. It was twenty three minutes and

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forty five seconds. No other match on this show went

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over nine and a half minutes, so it was definitely

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that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially they didn't have a heart too, because I

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agree with that spuffs. I like it not being on NBC,

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But it's just like I was surprised by a couple

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with the tag that it didn't go its just it.

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Speaker 3: Was almost four times the length of the tag team match,

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so that will tell you something. But again, the match

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itself was good. I liked how it ended, the moments

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with Sina Man. Gunther has some amazing heat and that's

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why I like the finish of this because it makes sense.

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If you are putting everything into Guther going forward, then

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this was the perfect way to build him up as

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your next monster. And in my opinion, it also leads

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way to you don't need a brock Lessener on every

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show because you have Gunther and oh but.

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Speaker 1: Like the two people in this show show, we don't

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need this anymore. I know people have said even as

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Bubbs I've talked about and Seene even said that the

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retirement thing I still have to believe when I see

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it with Brock, I just feel like last weeks and

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be like, oh, I love this money. You know we'll

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have to see Yeah. So I liked the clothesline spot.

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It was funny when they did the second move of

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five dooms. Gun Through just laying there and said get up,

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get up, and was talking. You didn't hear him, but

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he was talking a lot during the sleeper holes. But

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uh no, I thought like even him by busting out

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the famouser from the top rope was crazy, like this year.

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Speaker 4: Has he I feel like I've used that.

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Speaker 2: He's used that right times.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, Summer Slam, Right, I forgot about that, Okay,

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So yeah, no it was interesting. And then so that happens,

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and you get the whole crowd very much like the streak,

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very very quiet. People are, you know, wonder what's happening.

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Speaker 6: Music playing like overall the shock.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was good.

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Speaker 1: And then the locker room comes out and people are

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chatting bullshit and then they see Triple H and they

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all boo and stuff. And this was very interesting because

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I I feel like it's fitting for Johns in his career,

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who's had a very rocky relationship with the crowd. It's

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always been like, what's the crowd going to react like tonight,

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And I've never seen even a kfe if people don't

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like the decision. Like after Undertaker lost a streak, people

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were in shock, and then when he stand up they clapped.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I was there live. There wasn't bullshit or chanting about

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Vince or anything like that. But here we're usually okay,

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seeing what tap you all? That sucks?

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Speaker 4: But when he gets up with the walker comes.

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Speaker 1: Out, usually people be clapping, but no, they just turned

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and they kept channing, and I was just so surprised

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that even in the retirement fans were gonna be like, Oh, whatever,

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this sucks, but that's just cheer them. They're chanting bullshit.

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I love anytime they show Triple H which I was like, oh,

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don't get on that apron, and he did and they

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bow and that's why I had to make a thumbnail

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of him laughing and like it's I think I'd love

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to talk to some of the people there because I

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think there's some of the boos that are more just

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like frustration for maybe the full tour or not just

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last night. But I guess maybe they want to win.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that further reactions for a see from

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like the more casual fans.

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Speaker 6: It is really just like, oh he lost the sugar

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Water guy. Yeah, seen as the goat, he should never lose.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting what I'll be curious to see going

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forward is with that with a moment, if you watch

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the show and I wasn't disappointed by this match, but

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if you are disappointed by this match, and then you

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have the crowd kind of booing. I wonder what that

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does to the psyche of people, because I feel like

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it's almost like I didn't like this, and then the

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rest of the people are telling me this sucks, and

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I feel like you get less likely to come back.

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The explanation I use is the Rumble twenty fifteen when

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they throw Brian and Roman one, and it was like

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there was a shift in viewership and feeling. And that's

473
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,160
when Triple Ah cut the whole like may it was

474
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,000
the year before, but they refer back to the whole

475
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,839
you know whatever he said, my friend Mike or my

476
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,319
friend Dave and I are never gonna watch It's yeah,

477
00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:45,759
is never gonna watch again. He cuts this whole promo

478
00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:47,960
about this, and then as the weeks go forward, ratings

479
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,720
fell down. So it was like it's the dumbest thing,

480
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,880
Like I get what because you're biit is like that.

481
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,599
So I think he was laughing more like oh we

482
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,799
got because I've seen the like he's laughing right in

483
00:20:57,839 --> 00:20:59,680
your face. No, I think they viewed as like a

484
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,960
good of like oh we got them. I think there

485
00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:03,839
is some of that, but then you just have to know,

486
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,720
like they're so used to these moments and things happening now.

487
00:21:07,759 --> 00:21:09,839
I feel like this newer audience, it's like, do they

488
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,440
watch and feel fulfilled when it happens? And it's it's

489
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,079
tough too because I wonder also if people boo less

490
00:21:16,079 --> 00:21:18,640
and react or boom more and react more to like,

491
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,920
cause rarely do I remember in the time Vince ran

492
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,519
things Vince ever got booed or fu Vince chance and

493
00:21:24,519 --> 00:21:26,920
stuff he deserved them, But anytime Vince would come out,

494
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,440
it'd be the worst dog should air of WW. But

495
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,319
if Vince comes out, people are bowing, cheering. I feel

496
00:21:32,319 --> 00:21:35,200
like stuff like unreal. And the press conferences make it

497
00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:38,000
really known that this is a show show now and

498
00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:39,960
this is the guy that decides it, even if it's

499
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,920
seen of being like I'm gonna tap this way, it's

500
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,559
gonna go. All the eyes are way more on TRIPLEAH

501
00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:46,359
than they ever were for Vince, So I think that's

502
00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:49,400
a tough thing for him, but we'll have to see.

503
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,240
But they just got to fall through with good thar like,

504
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,799
that's just what they gotta do is make sure that

505
00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:55,039
the booking now for me, like to the rest of

506
00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:57,440
his w career is great, so then it doesn't feel

507
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,960
like always because yeah, in a couple of years, if

508
00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,079
he's tapping to Jimmy Husso in WrestleMania, then yeah, maybe

509
00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:05,440
we shouldn't have done this, but this should be the Okay,

510
00:22:05,519 --> 00:22:06,119
now he's.

511
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 4: A real made man.

512
00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:10,039
Speaker 1: And even then, if he becomes a guy that doesn't

513
00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:11,839
wrestle much on rar Smack, when he's a big time

514
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,920
match guy, that's kind of fun, Like you know, he's

515
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:14,519
a great wrestler.

516
00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:17,079
Speaker 4: It's like you have to now be careful with him.

517
00:22:17,079 --> 00:22:19,799
Speaker 1: And that's not me confident in them because Triple A

518
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,119
just made some and team have made some very questionable

519
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:22,920
decisions last year.

520
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,279
Speaker 4: Sorry I cut you off there.

521
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 5: No, I was just like, well, I guess in terms

522
00:22:28,519 --> 00:22:31,359
of like you need to continue with Gunther, I think I.

523
00:22:31,319 --> 00:22:33,079
Speaker 6: Guess the next possible one.

524
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 5: Well, the thing with the j Styles retirement, like the

525
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,559
word was like it might be like Mania, not like

526
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,160
the full year like Sina.

527
00:22:42,599 --> 00:22:44,799
Speaker 6: I could see that, Like if Gunther's.

528
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 5: Not going after one of the world titles at Mania,

529
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,960
I could see Gunther and AJ being like a manium match.

530
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,599
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, and especially because that fits there and it's

531
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,039
if the like if we're gonna get to Brock versus

532
00:22:59,079 --> 00:22:59,799
him and SummerSlam.

533
00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 4: You're gonna do it there, right.

534
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,319
Speaker 1: And I feel that's where if Gunther is wrestling aj Styles,

535
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,200
because we talked about the wrestling anywhere, it's like where

536
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,640
does Gunther fit in That feels like a big match

537
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,480
for him to like, Okay, he's not a title match,

538
00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:13,880
but he's retiring AJ Styles, right, because that's the tough

539
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,519
thing now because if you look at even what they

540
00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:18,079
did with brock Lesner, he beat the Streak and then

541
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,440
six months later he's world champ.

542
00:23:19,519 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 4: Right.

543
00:23:19,759 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't think they're doing that with Gunther because you

544
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,400
got whatever's happened with Cody and Roman. We know it's

545
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,559
gonna go Punk and Braun, so it's just goother right

546
00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:29,599
now is a little bit ways away from the title.

547
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,039
So Ajan and Gunther would make sense to me if

548
00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:35,079
they're you know, getting barring injuries or anything. Maybe aj

549
00:23:35,279 --> 00:23:37,200
like even it eliminates him of the Royal Rumbel. Right,

550
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,480
they could do that classic long term bill where it's

551
00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:41,559
like they're in the final full war, because I would

552
00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:43,559
like it if they actually gave it. I want aj

553
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,200
to lose to take titles soon and start getting them

554
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,039
in some some main events stuff, you know.

555
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean I think I was gonna say,

556
00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:54,559
like we lose it to like the USUS, But then

557
00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:58,079
I also still think the Jay heals An is coming.

558
00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 6: I still fully believe it.

559
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: That man, that man was wild and last night that.

560
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 5: Jackie was trying to go on your way.

561
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he even said it at one point

562
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,200
like just give us the catch phrase and I'm gonna

563
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:15,640
let you go.

564
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, even on his Instagram stories talking about his promo

565
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:22,759
and everything like that, like, oh my goodness. But uh yeah, David, Also,

566
00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:24,039
you've been watching for a long time. What did you

567
00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:26,680
take from the reaction of the fans? You think it's

568
00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:28,160
just like a night of thing. Do you think it's

569
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,440
gonna play into more down the line of people tune

570
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:31,480
in an You think it's just emotionally?

571
00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 4: Where were you gonna? Were you surprised to see this?

572
00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:33,960
Where were you?

573
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,839
Speaker 3: So? I told somebody today that, uh, the way that

574
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,079
Triple H got booed reminded me of the scene from

575
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,480
Star Wars when Obi Wan's tuck nannikin about you're supposed

576
00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:46,640
to be the chosen one. That's the way people feel

577
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,319
about Triple AH as compared to Vince, like you were

578
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,799
supposed to come in and save us from the Vince era,

579
00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:54,119
and now we're getting a lot of the same booking

580
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,799
you you joined there, And I think that's why people

581
00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,599
are so pisses, because they feel like, Okay, this is

582
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,119
still the old school style. You're not doing anything different,

583
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,279
you're not quote unquote listening to the fans. But again

584
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,960
I triple chat that shitting and grin on his face,

585
00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:13,519
like I got you to feel something. You the entire

586
00:25:13,559 --> 00:25:17,000
arena is erupting, and I got you to feel that way.

587
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,920
So in that sense, I mean mission accomplished. I do

588
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,720
think that Gunther should go on just a monster deal.

589
00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:26,000
If he's not going for a World championship, then he

590
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:28,559
needs to be the one to retire whoever is next

591
00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:31,680
to retire, Like he's that guy. He bring back a

592
00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:34,599
modified version of the legend killer, and he's the man

593
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,400
who puts you out the pasture. And I could see

594
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,319
Gunther bragging about that, how he's retired John Cena, He's

595
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,079
retired aj Styles, he retired Randy Orten or whoever else

596
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,440
is coming in. If you bring in Jericho, eventually retire

597
00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:52,480
him and just continue to build him up in that

598
00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:55,799
way of he's the big the new big bad and.

599
00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: Because you know why what you can do because obviously

600
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,440
if it's someone's last match, I am you usually in

601
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,880
the agreeents that they should lose. I'm not trying to,

602
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,640
you know, be on complete Triple H bandwagon here, but

603
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,599
it's like when he says like, oh, that's like a tradition.

604
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,759
To me, it is, it's the best way you go out.

605
00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:14,839
I I love AW, I love Swarve Strickland, I love people.

606
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,119
I hate people going around showing all the Sting stuff.

607
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,599
The Staying retirement was so different even then if you

608
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,000
even like people have said Sting wanted to lose and

609
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:23,759
they wouldn't.

610
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 4: Let him, right.

611
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, But the other difference is for me, of why

612
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:28,680
I was fine with TK and stuff doing that. The

613
00:26:28,759 --> 00:26:32,680
last few years of Sting's career sucked. He what happened

614
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,759
in TEENA, how he went out was very underwhelming, and

615
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:36,960
he had this big run it was nothing. The WWE

616
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,720
run was a huge pain. And then he also had

617
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,160
a career ending injury. So it's not like Sina who's

618
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,680
had like even the times he's been around, like there's

619
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,279
some questionable stuff like awesome theory and soul, but that

620
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,559
is nowhere near. Hey, Stings in the back of the

621
00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:51,880
ambulance doesn't know if he's gonna be able to move again, right, Like,

622
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,160
to me, the Sting story, it's all a case by

623
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,519
case basis, right, that story fit getting happy end because,

624
00:26:57,519 --> 00:26:59,359
like I said, there was the last five years of

625
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,960
his career. Even WCW. You can say, like the brand,

626
00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:04,319
like the face. He was the face of a brand

627
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,599
that went out of business. Right, so you can make

628
00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:10,079
an argument that, hey, this character, it's been around since

629
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,480
the seventies eighties, pauper of people well loved, who's had

630
00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:15,559
like a couple of shitty years. Let's give it a

631
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:17,920
good ending here, right, so that I understand we're seeing

632
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,200
it like again, he doesn't need the good ending. The

633
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,039
guy's been the face of the company for multiple decades.

634
00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:26,400
He's earned a lot of money, He's in a bunch

635
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,559
of movies. That's why for me, it's like Sina can

636
00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:30,160
lose this and that kind of feels a little fitting

637
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,759
with the character. And even then too, like look at

638
00:27:31,759 --> 00:27:34,519
the pairing. The young Bucks didn't need to beat Sting, right,

639
00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:36,880
I don't even know if I'd say Gooder needed to

640
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,400
beat Sina because he could all lost and bounce back,

641
00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:41,519
but man does it like bring him up big time?

642
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 6: Right?

643
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: Where Bucks like cool they beat Sting, It's like that's

644
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,599
not any like in they're Teddy Champions again. So for me,

645
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,720
I hate that comparison because Sting and Sena's.

646
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 4: Ending are very very different. You know.

647
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: I think there's other ones where it's like for me,

648
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,720
I know it's his type of match, but like I

649
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:59,480
still would have preferred like Undertaker putting over AJ because

650
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,079
it's kind of crazy that in Saudi Arabia Undertaker beat

651
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,839
AJ in fifteen seconds and then still goes to bury him.

652
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,720
You know, like that's where I say, Yeah, that's somewhere

653
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:10,160
you go. You know what, it's not Undertake or it's

654
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,839
not like Undertake No sorry, it is Undertaker's fault that

655
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,680
his last few years were shit because he should retire

656
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,640
a long time ago and he's just coming back and

657
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,880
putting on these really bad matches Like that's his fault.

658
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,559
He didn't break his neck like Sting, Like that's on him.

659
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:24,960
He should have retired a long time ago, and I

660
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,400
don't know if he needed to beat AJ, but that

661
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,599
was like a fun, weird COVID match like didn't really matter, right,

662
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,279
So I just that comparison to people using like oh

663
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:34,519
and I like I said, I love AW, I currently

664
00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:36,799
watch that more, But them using that as like the

665
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,480
dunk on w B, It's like, I don't think it is,

666
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:41,599
like to me, it doesn't work, but like, oh, look

667
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,559
this is the way it works. It's like, what did

668
00:28:43,559 --> 00:28:46,480
they do Brian? They gave him a super sad depressing ending.

669
00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:49,119
So it's not like, oh, every time someone retires in AW,

670
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,160
they're a huge hero and they win. It's like, no,

671
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,119
it all depends on the story. Brian's story needed the

672
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,160
sad mocks He's gonna kill him and that set.

673
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:58,559
Speaker 4: Up death Riders right. So it's like it's case by case.

674
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: When people are like, oh, he would never do this

675
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,759
to a legendary figure, it's like they already did, like

676
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,559
and they will do it again.

677
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,279
Speaker 6: I don't think.

678
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:10,039
Speaker 5: I don't think Tony Kahan even hated the scene of

679
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:13,400
finish because if he did, because he did do the

680
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,279
thank you for watching a w But if he hated it, he.

681
00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:19,039
Speaker 6: Would have done it right away. He did this like like.

682
00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: Or he promotes a match too. He'll always promote like

683
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,519
this Thursday, watch for it, like he knows the right

684
00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:24,160
time to don.

685
00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:26,599
Speaker 5: He was watching like this is some good ship right

686
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,960
here in my company.

687
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,319
Speaker 1: Which one. You know, he's gonna he's gonna throw a

688
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:34,799
scene in the bag, you know, and walks. He's gonna

689
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:36,880
do the same thing with the plastic bag. Show him out.

690
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,240
But yeah, I just I don't know. It's weird that

691
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,559
people have been showing that as the staying things like

692
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:42,920
that's the way to do It's like, no, I think

693
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,680
that was the way for Sting to do it, not

694
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,880
like all wrestling, you know.

695
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 4: I just I don't know.

696
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: It's a weird thing. But yeah, obviously, so do we

697
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,400
think Scenea's going to the Hall this year? I think

698
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,440
they wait one more year.

699
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,799
Speaker 2: They've got him for five years, so I think that

700
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,160
they wait another year.

701
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,039
Speaker 1: Because he didn't do his big speech.

702
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 5: It since it's like especially since it's in Vegas, like

703
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,200
whereas his last Sstlemania and he won the championship and everything,

704
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:11,440
I could see it.

705
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,559
Speaker 2: I don't know, like Saudi's already claimed him.

706
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, because I feel like they would

707
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,599
have announced it like kind of early. I feel like

708
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:23,680
I feel like they could have announced it already if

709
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,640
they were doing it, because I don't know, it feels

710
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:28,960
random if they announced it like after like a rumble

711
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,200
or something that he's like not in it's like just like,

712
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,640
oh yeah, scene's going in the Hall of Fame too.

713
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: Because they could have done it even last night though, right.

714
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,400
I think we even talked about that as like a

715
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,839
theory where they would announce like Ahwa's gonna end and

716
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,119
triple ah is gonna be like, oh and we got

717
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,359
one more like honestly though, that could have That's why

718
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:48,359
I'm almost against it on him because that moment last

719
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,799
night when he brings him aside and points to the screen,

720
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,359
that video could have ended with going in the Hall

721
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:56,759
of Fame whatever, you know. So like I think I'm

722
00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:58,200
up two minds where like either you can do the

723
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,480
Hall of Fame right now and you build all, hey,

724
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:02,319
we just did that last run and we're putting in

725
00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:04,119
the whole fame, or like make people miss him a

726
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,799
little bit and then do the thing. I guess the

727
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:08,759
only reason I was leaning towards the Whole Fame is

728
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:11,480
I was surprised he didn't do a speech or promo

729
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,960
or whatever, so I thought, well, maybe the Hall of

730
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,880
Fame's coming up in a couple months. He's gonna save

731
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,880
all this good stuff for that. But I was surprised

732
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,640
he said nothing. Obviously took the gear off. He did.

733
00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:25,400
He saluted so many fucking times, just that image of

734
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,440
him going and whatnot. But you know, and I like

735
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:29,480
to they gi him like the mini Rick Flair one.

736
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:31,039
I was kind of hoping they did the whole Ric

737
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:34,119
Flair one where you know, and like, I'm not like

738
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,319
a massive fan their feud. I was very surprised, Like

739
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880
Randy wasn't sauty. I was surprised they couldn't even talk

740
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,759
to Big Dave and get him out there, like it

741
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:43,720
felt like there's a couple even rock. It's like you can't,

742
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,039
like you're just gonna film the Instagram video. It's like

743
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:48,279
you can't, like you're a CEO man like or you're

744
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,759
on the board, like get out there, like, oh, you

745
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,400
fucking hijack this guy's because Cody didn't turn heel, you

746
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:58,079
hijacked this guy's last year. The most you could do

747
00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:00,279
is come out there and raise his goddamn you know.

748
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:02,480
So that's the only thing is I felt like with

749
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:04,640
Flair because I was there it felt like everybody but

750
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:06,519
Sting because they tried to talk to teen A and

751
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:08,359
they wouldn't allow it. But they felt like they got

752
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,599
everybody you could think of in Rick Flair's career to

753
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,039
be there, right and with this it just felt like, oh,

754
00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:15,920
we got like everyone that's on the roster here, you know.

755
00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:20,920
So but even Roman, even even Roman wasn't there. I

756
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:23,079
was just, you know, he gets to do the thank

757
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,960
you John in the video, but I was surprised even

758
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:27,240
Rome wasn't there. This guy who see didn't have to

759
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:28,720
call you the goat, doesn't say you're the best of

760
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:30,599
all time, but he goes out of his way all

761
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:32,720
the time to like, I think the the best rest

762
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:34,000
of all times. Roman reigns and.

763
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 6: His game of Ward does his travel for the week.

764
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:41,559
Speaker 1: That was it. So yeah, and I guess on that know,

765
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,640
we talked, but I'm very I know why people are mad.

766
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:48,240
I I was fine with them doing the archive footage, evince, Yeah,

767
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,839
I don't need to see events, but like, I'll take

768
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,279
that over.

769
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:55,359
Speaker 5: I always wonder, like where WWE keeps all these interview clips,

770
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:57,519
because they use these for every single.

771
00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:00,839
Speaker 6: One of these, like that TRIPLEH interview that Vince interview.

772
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,759
Speaker 1: That's that's this this shirt.

773
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 5: There's a one that they use all the time, like

774
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,400
the must be from like yeah, like like two thousand

775
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:09,640
and eight.

776
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: It is because because I used to have a lot

777
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:14,519
of those DVDs. And that's why it's so interesting. It's like,

778
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:17,279
can't sit down for like two minutes, like a new

779
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:21,640
It's like him with long hair and the ponytail. It's

780
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,839
so funny. But yeah, like to me, I'll take Vince

781
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,960
archrival footage than what they really could have done.

782
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,759
Speaker 4: They really could have had this fucker, And I thought,

783
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,359
I thought there was a chance. And man, I wonder how.

784
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,319
Speaker 1: Music, Yeah, I wonder what would have happened to with

785
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,720
them booing triple H and Vince was there Because there's

786
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:43,319
only a pocket of thank you Vince chances pleeple, Oh.

787
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:44,039
Speaker 4: No, don't do that.

788
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,039
Speaker 2: The fucking Vin's chance would have been high throughout that.

789
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't think they would have been. Man,

790
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,559
I actually think they would. I think because they were

791
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,400
so mad at Triple H they would have been like

792
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,039
it was better with him, it was.

793
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:59,519
Speaker 3: Better with Because at that point, do you then start

794
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:02,279
to think, Okay, if Vince is there Vince made this

795
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,400
call for him to tap out.

796
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: This is Vince eras shit.

797
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:05,599
Speaker 1: That's why.

798
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they did it on to Vince.

799
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I think we're pretty happy with

800
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,320
what happened. Yeah, but uh yeah, I'm just happy that

801
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,000
I'm happy no political figures were there on screen, Like

802
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:19,599
I didn't need the whole circuit, the circus pony show

803
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,599
that I was worried they were gonna make this do

804
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,519
so yeah, it was.

805
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,599
Speaker 4: It was interesting.

806
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna be curious how it's looked upon later on, right,

807
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,719
because even the streak me and they're just talking about

808
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,119
the day. It's like people all time still go back

809
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:32,840
and forth like if that was the right call? Right,

810
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,719
because she's always in the mind she thought like why

811
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,480
didn't they just let him keep It's like I was

812
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,199
always fine with him losing it, because you build it up,

813
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,119
you have to give it to somebody, right, So I'm

814
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:41,920
the same thing here.

815
00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:45,039
Speaker 5: This I haven't seen like even the people who didn't

816
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,719
like the finish, I haven't really seen many people saying

817
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,559
like it.

818
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 6: Shouldn't have been right, That's what I mean.

819
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's the thing that's where for me, that

820
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,400
was the problem the streak where people debate should and not.

821
00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:56,880
But for me it was always like did they pick

822
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,960
the right guy right? And for me, I think the

823
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:01,440
idea of yes, I'm in the camp scene, I should

824
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,840
have lost and tapped up. But to me the debate

825
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,719
is less because if you're debating, oh, should it be

826
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,519
one loss? To me, he's like, well does America? Is

827
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,000
my hope is the next five year shows us that

828
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,079
they picked the right guy and it goes the right way, right,

829
00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:16,360
And yeah, this is something goother can always say now

830
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,440
that he retired Johnson, he retired Goldberg, Oh that's what

831
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:21,679
he's gonna say. We want a different track that eventually,

832
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,199
let's say he retires, Jeric Ome retires Lessener. What's gonna

833
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,679
happen is at some point they can use this as

834
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:29,159
a stip because I always thought, oh, what if you

835
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:29,960
versus something that's.

836
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 4: Retiring and they win.

837
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: You don't know want that he can do a match

838
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:35,519
with somebody of like you need to put your career

839
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:37,239
on the line, right that get.

840
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 6: Like the Randy Uran match, like the legend killer versus

841
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,360
the career you.

842
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: No, I think it would do somebody that would be

843
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,519
like a fake out like because to me, that's you

844
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:48,519
can finally have someone beat goonther when that stip is

845
00:35:48,599 --> 00:35:50,639
on the line, like someone I guess it could be

846
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,559
Randy if he's not done, but that's where to me,

847
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:54,480
you should do it with somebody at some point where

848
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:56,079
it's not just oh, this is market is the last

849
00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:59,440
match is literally hey, some storyline where Okay, i'll give

850
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,360
you another shot the title.

851
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,119
Speaker 4: I'll do this, but if you lose, you have to retire.

852
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: And if you yeah, because if you have gooon through

853
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,320
with a track re ger of three to four people,

854
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,800
it's like, oh man, that makes sense for his character

855
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,960
to throw that out because that's the same thing. Eventually,

856
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:14,079
someone has to be the not career killer, right, someone

857
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:16,440
has to beat goon thro at the last match thing.

858
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 4: And that's where I think it'd be good.

859
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,639
Speaker 1: Like the perfect story would be like someone like a Sammy, Right,

860
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:22,639
it's not Sammy's same, but someone like that that's an

861
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,840
underdog character that like, you have a title match, but

862
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:27,920
if you lose, you gotta retire and then they win,

863
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:29,840
Like there's lots of stuff you can do there, right,

864
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,000
But uh, And that was the other thing too with

865
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:34,800
brock Lesner and the whole streak thing. They botched that

866
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,760
after the fact because no one really ever got like

867
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:41,239
the the first person to beat Brock Lesner after the

868
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,159
streak was Goldberg, and that to me was I know,

869
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,960
there's tons of Dee that try to defend that. That

870
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:47,599
was not defendable to me. Goldberg didn't need that. You

871
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:49,440
could have still done him in Mania. He could have

872
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,920
beat Kevin Owens for that title. Like there's so many ways.

873
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,480
That was always the thing of like, oh well, Brock's

874
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,239
gonna lose their own right, and he didn't until like

875
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,079
five years later.

876
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,639
Speaker 4: So anything else on uh guther or seen it here?

877
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: Anything else?

878
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 6: I think?

879
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: So, yeah, well see what it does. I hope this

880
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,000
Lisa Gooler just getting some nice he'll heat going forward.

881
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,119
Uh yeah, what do you guys think about We'll go

882
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:14,840
back to the very being the show Cody versus Oba Fami.

883
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: Uh.

884
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 5: I'll say I was really liking the match up to

885
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,559
the the DQ. I thought it was I thought it

886
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,199
was awesome. I liked seeing you know, Ova, like the

887
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,079
crowd was like seriously impressed and like in of Ova,

888
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:33,280
like every time he was throwing Cody back, you could

889
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,800
hear the crowd being like like well like like this

890
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,360
guy is is something and that's just so funny.

891
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,079
Speaker 1: We's seene It's like, oh, I want people up there

892
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,480
that the crowd may not know saying gonna shine. It's

893
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:46,280
like not the case of Oba family, like everybody's who

894
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,400
in and they they're excited to see him, not saying out.

895
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,519
Speaker 6: Of the NXT talent.

896
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:53,119
Speaker 5: He was the one that like even just off the entrance,

897
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,119
was already again a huge reaction. The other ones, their

898
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,400
entrance was like just like normal and to quiet, and

899
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:01,599
then once they got in the ring, the crowd would

900
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:04,119
really go for it. But Oba like he was completely

901
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,559
like ready from the start there. And uh yeah, I'd

902
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:11,000
say from from what we got off the match, I

903
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:13,199
thought it was it was really great. I thought they

904
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,880
they had good chemistry from what we saw. Actually did

905
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,599
go back and see how exactly like Cody's ear got

906
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,960
like hurt. I saw it from a different angles, Like

907
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,679
he went over the desk like perfectly fine, and then

908
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:32,320
the desk is like it's kind of like it's like

909
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,159
a it has.

910
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:35,639
Speaker 6: Like on the sides. He was like leaning.

911
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:38,199
Speaker 5: I think he wanted to lean his head against like

912
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,360
one of the sides and he thought he was like

913
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:42,440
lined up with it, so he just moved his head.

914
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 6: Back and he was off the side a little bit,

915
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:46,480
so he just like slammed the back of.

916
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:49,599
Speaker 5: His ear like into the corner. Uh, And that's what

917
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,119
did it. And then yeah, there was just the DQ

918
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,079
which is just like what it was there.

919
00:38:55,559 --> 00:39:02,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, David, Yeah, I enjoyed the match. The ending was predictable.

920
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,079
Speaker 3: Like I said, I said it in our chat earlier

921
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:07,000
on discord that I felt like that's how it was

922
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:10,239
going to end. But man, the crowd reaction to Oba

923
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,480
coming out, the fact that you know, he still continued

924
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,760
to get a reaction against Cody, like people were still

925
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,599
cheering for him. And one when that spot where he

926
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,360
reaches down and picks Cody up by his throat, I'm

927
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,960
just like, my man is looking nice and strong and

928
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,840
really just really cool spots they let him have his shine,

929
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,599
And there are times where it looks like Cody was

930
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:36,360
giving him everything he could in order to knock this

931
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,360
big man off his feet. So again you got another

932
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,719
powerhouse there, another big strong guy. If you want someone

933
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,880
to come in and wreck shop, there you go. He's Hilf. Yeah,

934
00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:51,159
he's set and he's ready. He's ready for the main roster,

935
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,639
so that if he drops the title this coming Tuesday

936
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:58,519
and is on the main roster by Friday, I wouldn't

937
00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:00,920
be mad at it because he definitely earned it with

938
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:01,320
this one.

939
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: Just put him in a fucking eight way match and

940
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,440
have someone else beat, like, don't even have him take

941
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,559
the pen. Like to me, that's where it's like when

942
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:10,840
the crowd was reacting that way, because I've not seen

943
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,159
a bunch of but I seen Hienough to know that

944
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,039
he's ready ringwise to go up. He's got the ore

945
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:17,119
and everything. But when the crowd when he came out

946
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,440
won his entrance on a big stage was phenomenal. That

947
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:23,480
was he felt like that that, like I know Rome's

948
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,199
called himself the Final Boss, but it felt like that,

949
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,840
like or I guess Rock now calls himself the Final Boss,

950
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,760
but it feels like that. It feels like in a

951
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,119
video game where it's like, oh fuck, like I got

952
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,360
this guy left and he's just coming out, and the

953
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,719
way they shoot it when it's like a little bit

954
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,280
of the upward angle and he's just looking massive, I

955
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,519
was like, this guy, it's I hope not everyone has

956
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:44,440
that mentality, but I know they do, and Mark Henry

957
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:46,840
said that, think about Javon Evans last week or two

958
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,800
weeks ago, like, oh, in fifteen years he'll be world champ.

959
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,559
It's like what like and I worry about that. We

960
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:53,440
talked about the all time, with the ages and everything.

961
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:56,239
It's like look at scene, like talking about see him retiring.

962
00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:58,199
It took him when he got to the main roster

963
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,119
in oh three he got the world title five. Same

964
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:03,760
thing as Dave Batista, same thing as brock Lesner. I

965
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,800
know it was a different era, but like, I'm not

966
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,639
saying you got a trap, Javon, but like to me,

967
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,360
Oba can just win the rumble and win a title,

968
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,559
that's fine. We don't need to like have Oh we

969
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:14,239
got to get him up there and see what he does.

970
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,760
Like even the NXT thing when they do the like,

971
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,440
oh we want to see if they're good at being

972
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,840
a heel and a baby face, it's like, no, man,

973
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,840
you don't do that.

974
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:25,159
Speaker 5: That might kind of be bron breaker, like yeah, finally

975
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:31,920
yeah in twenty twenty four, yeah, than hopefully. Yeah.

976
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,079
Speaker 1: And that's why I hope that this new crop they

977
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,039
are gonna do that stuff right with I guess with

978
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,800
Broun we're gonna see what happens on January and then

979
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,960
I imagine you just still gonna win at some point.

980
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,960
But they should start doing that a bit more because one,

981
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:46,960
these are younger guys, but two just like then you

982
00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:48,960
just even have more stars in general. You know, it's

983
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,199
not like the oh, well do we want to take

984
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,039
the title off Cody? Like, I think Cody will be

985
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,840
fine now. And I think I was happy last night

986
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,800
when he got that ring that it was like a

987
00:41:58,039 --> 00:41:59,880
got to fifty to fifty because when Ovo was gonna

988
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,519
that reaction, like oh man, this crowd's gonna turn. But

989
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:05,000
then when they're doing this Cody road song, I was like, Okay,

990
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,320
he's still fine. There's still some people there because like

991
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,840
I'm always, I'm always waiting for what's gonna happen.

992
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 4: But the Drew stuff, yeah, I thought it was a

993
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:11,840
great match.

994
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: But to the point now when they did no clean finish,

995
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,320
I wish that Ricky was still champ and they just

996
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,320
had seen or Cody beat Ricky and that's it. It

997
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,719
was great to have Oba with the big showcase, but

998
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,639
with this being the d K you finish, I and

999
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,039
this match I think was really good and a good.

1000
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,960
Like this to me would have been a perfect blueprint

1001
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:33,039
for Oba winning this match in the world title, you know,

1002
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,760
because now when they wrestle second time, he does have

1003
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,960
to be still different. You can't just completely run this back.

1004
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:41,480
So uh no, I thought it was great up until

1005
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,960
I just I've been talking about for months.

1006
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 4: I hate this. I'm finally the DQ finish here and there.

1007
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: But that's why I stopped watch watching all the weekly TV,

1008
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,599
because there's so much of the main events where it's like, oh,

1009
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:52,320
this is really interesting, big matchup, and it's like, well, DQ,

1010
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:54,679
well DQ, And even then it's like, well, then at

1011
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,039
least just have Drew d Q like interfere and then

1012
00:42:57,119 --> 00:42:59,000
Oba gets the win and Cody can at least kind

1013
00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,360
of say that.

1014
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:00,639
Speaker 4: But I get it though.

1015
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: That's the thing. They don't want to make Oba look

1016
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,639
weak by getting a cheap victory. But then they don't

1017
00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:06,599
want Oba to lose because you know they're not ready

1018
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:09,239
for that. So then don't book this match, don't put

1019
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,320
Oba somewhere else, do a tag team match like anything else.

1020
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,280
Like it just I just don't understand they They are

1021
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,800
the bookers. It's not real life. They can choose who's

1022
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,199
gonna wrestle his match. It's like they can choose, like, oh,

1023
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:21,920
we don't want Oba lose, we don't want Cody louse.

1024
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,519
Well let's do a tag team match and have Cody

1025
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:26,440
pin some one else or Oba pin someone else. You know,

1026
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:29,639
It's just I don't know, so I'm I think I'm

1027
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:32,519
with David where yeah, just honestly have Oba imprompting match

1028
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:34,920
on Tuesday, lose the title and just get them up

1029
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,159
like no more. There's nothing for him to learn in

1030
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,119
XT see he's already looking like he's there with the

1031
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:42,199
big dogs. And yeah, this was like I what I

1032
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:44,480
would love is we saw signs of last night what

1033
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:47,000
we're talking about with Seena in the streak and brock Lesner.

1034
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,920
Make Oba Cody's brock Lesner. Make it that he beats him.

1035
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,840
And that's the thing that Cody always is trying to

1036
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,440
beat Oba. And maybe here and there gets a win,

1037
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:58,800
But with's I think, because yeah, Snea got one win

1038
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,880
on Brock. I think when bro came back it was

1039
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,920
the first and then after that Brock beat him every time.

1040
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,760
And that to me like do the same thing. Maybe

1041
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,920
I have Cody beat him once, but have Oba have

1042
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:09,719
his numbers. I'm always fine with that storyline of oh

1043
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,920
there's one guy you just can't beat, you know, in

1044
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:14,320
real life when I'm in the Gauntlet, that's fucking Kirkland Patzer.

1045
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,440
I beat him once. We have five matches after. I

1046
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:18,760
never beat that fuck River again. I just can't beat him.

1047
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,639
I don't know what it is. It annoys me, but

1048
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,280
that's just how it is in sports and life sometimes.

1049
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,320
So yeah, I hope Oba is up there. And also,

1050
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,920
I guess we could talk about this because last show

1051
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,800
we did Survivor Series and that was the rumor of

1052
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,239
all they're doing Cody and Roman at WrestleMania, But now

1053
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,800
there's a rumor it's like, well they're gonna do that,

1054
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,880
but not at WrestleMania. I guess I'm really confused because

1055
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,599
Meltzer is the guy that said both of them. He

1056
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,480
said them anything. But now as well as not having

1057
00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:44,480
to me, it's like, I really don't know. I guess

1058
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:47,079
plants are just yeah, are they just up in the

1059
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:49,480
air now? Like and if that's the case, like I.

1060
00:44:49,519 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 5: Mean, I don't think like Mania plans are like, well,

1061
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:56,440
we seem from unreal like even in like started January,

1062
00:44:56,599 --> 00:45:00,559
like late December one be completely different then what.

1063
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:01,559
Speaker 6: We actually get.

1064
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 5: So I think it's still like I think someone saw

1065
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,519
Cody Roman and we're like, okay, I need a report

1066
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,199
that like Cody Roman is in the plants, but like

1067
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:12,119
that could be completely different.

1068
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,039
Speaker 6: By the time we get to that.

1069
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,119
Speaker 4: Yeah it was.

1070
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:16,639
Speaker 1: It was on the actual chalkboard rest May thirty forty three.

1071
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,559
That's what Dave got wrong.

1072
00:45:17,639 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 6: It's yeah, yeah, just bad hand riting.

1073
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what do we think there's any chance OBA

1074
00:45:24,519 --> 00:45:26,000
could be upcome Rumble time?

1075
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:27,599
Speaker 6: I don't think so.

1076
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 5: I don't think he's dropping the title until Stand and Deliver.

1077
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:33,639
I think earliest raw Aftermania.

1078
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like what, like I saw some people made

1079
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:37,960
this because I.

1080
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 5: Know what the I know what the plan is gonna be,

1081
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,920
because they're doing like a four way to for number

1082
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,920
one contender, right, and that can just be I feel

1083
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,440
like that's a TV match that'll be Maybe that's like

1084
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,400
a Leon Slater that they can like beat on TV

1085
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:55,159
because then and then I feel like he's gonna fight

1086
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,840
all the guys in who are in that match on

1087
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,760
the way to Stand the Delivers, Stand the Liver is

1088
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:00,079
gonna be.

1089
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 4: We're gonna ob Joe Hendry match.

1090
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 5: I feel like it's gonna happen because in between, in

1091
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:09,840
between so twenty twenty six NX, you would have New

1092
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,920
Year's Evil, which is the first son, then Vengeance Day

1093
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:18,079
which is a pl E roadblock which is a TV special,

1094
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:22,440
and then Standon Liver and Ova always he does like

1095
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:24,719
a TV title defense every once in a while, So

1096
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,320
I feel like those will be that will be Leon Slater,

1097
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,679
Miles Bourne, Joe Hendry, Dion Lennox. Deon Lennox is the

1098
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,719
one that has like the most story because he that's

1099
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,320
like the whole story of Dion Lennox's.

1100
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,199
Speaker 6: Like he'll turn because he used to be just like

1101
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:40,760
this like geek.

1102
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:44,039
Speaker 5: Kind of guy and then Obamy backstay. He was like

1103
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:46,960
he was like one day like I'm gonna be challenging

1104
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:49,599
for that title and Ova was like, no, you're not,

1105
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,639
You suck and that made him turn heel and like

1106
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,519
come back as a as a villain. So that's like

1107
00:46:55,639 --> 00:46:57,960
the match that like people joke about it, but like

1108
00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:00,559
I feel like that's gonna be one of like I

1109
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:01,920
don't know, maybe that is just.

1110
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:04,679
Speaker 6: Like the since they've been talking about it more recently, is.

1111
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: Just like the TV Yeah, that sounds like a good

1112
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,039
T one and plus one of those could always be

1113
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:11,400
like a triple threat or something too. Yeah, maybe there's

1114
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,239
a teen A guy in there or something and they're

1115
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,360
trying to sign someone else.

1116
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:17,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like they're gonna give just Leon Slater

1117
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,000
like that title match.

1118
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:23,199
Speaker 1: Like it's I'm very curious see how the AMC deal

1119
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,000
go because we haven't talking about that since that happened.

1120
00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:28,199
Speaker 6: Like the more like they've used Leon Slater more than

1121
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,280
they used Joe Hendry.

1122
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 4: It's fucking crazy.

1123
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I am, like to me, now, this is

1124
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,199
it's this is way worse than eight W New Japan partnership.

1125
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,400
They are just poached.

1126
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,519
Speaker 4: They're literally they're not even waiting for these.

1127
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: Contracts to expire.

1128
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,599
Speaker 4: They're paying them out like.

1129
00:47:45,079 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 5: That one.

1130
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: This is why I said, though, I'm gonna fully wait

1131
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,280
and see for judgment for the AMC deal because for

1132
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,960
the first episode of AMC, if they loaded up with

1133
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:56,480
some other big w starts, I'm like, Okay, I'll see

1134
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,559
teenag is not potion, But if like I can see

1135
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:01,079
some more bigger stuff to boost AMC, then I'm okay,

1136
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:01,800
then maybe.

1137
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:02,119
Speaker 4: It's worth it.

1138
00:48:02,199 --> 00:48:04,639
Speaker 1: But right now, man, it just feels like they're just

1139
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,360
having their way with this company, and like again, get

1140
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,480
out of here. Anyone's saying there the number two, No

1141
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:12,079
fucking way, no way. This is like Leon Slayer is

1142
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:15,159
just That's why I asked us, Like he's he's just

1143
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,760
a WWE guy now, Like it's just he is on

1144
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,880
John Cena's last show? Are you kidding me? Like there

1145
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,000
are hundreds of I guess, so yeah, at least dozens

1146
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:27,480
of WE wrestlers on the roster that you could be like,

1147
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:30,000
you know what, we want to showcase one of our performers.

1148
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:33,079
They're showcasing something that's not even under contract yet, right,

1149
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:35,880
but it's like it is crazy what is happening, Like

1150
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,360
I don't know how this teammate president is letting this go.

1151
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:40,760
They said, maybe I'll take it back for AMC. Maybe

1152
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,039
they'll really beef them up. But right now, this is

1153
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:47,159
a crazy partnership. This is some I don't know, some

1154
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:48,960
who some magic going on.

1155
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 4: So oh god.

1156
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:53,639
Speaker 1: He also says time I wanted to sit. Oh so yeah,

1157
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,599
I guess I'm just disappointed because I was hoping I

1158
00:48:56,679 --> 00:48:59,239
saw people bring up there if you could make this

1159
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:04,039
WrestleMania the way like Sina and uh Batista one on

1160
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:07,280
the same night, that'd be great. Imagine that ends restumating

1161
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,239
at forty two and it's oba you know, w W Champ,

1162
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,159
Brown World Champ.

1163
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 4: That's literally your new era right there.

1164
00:49:13,679 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: If people go, oh, well they're both heels, we'll then

1165
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,079
have won the women main event like the night and

1166
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:19,320
have like the big pop right. But again, so like

1167
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,159
if that's the case, So if we don't, because David,

1168
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:22,760
do you think's coming up or you think he's saying

1169
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:23,840
in XSTY as well.

1170
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,679
Speaker 2: I don't think he's coming up before the World Rumble.

1171
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: Okay, So if that's the case, if we're still right.

1172
00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:32,159
Speaker 6: I could see him in the Rumble, Yeah I don't think.

1173
00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I said I don't see him before

1174
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,679
the World Rubble. But I could definitely see him in

1175
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,840
the Royal Rumble. I mean, he would get a massive reaction.

1176
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,199
Speaker 5: Jeon eliminates him, and you know one of these Saudi princes,

1177
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,920
you know, they're watching Sita this last show, and that's

1178
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,639
all Johnson.

1179
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 6: Guy's pretty cool.

1180
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: That's all Met Johnson. We gotta get him, you know,

1181
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:54,639
with So if that's just I guess, because in case

1182
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,679
we don't, we will do an episode. Guess we'll talk further,

1183
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,599
but like, is what's happening to Brown and Punk? Is

1184
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:02,119
Punk winning this at Great? Because that did get an ounced.

1185
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:04,280
We talked about this before last episode because I was like,

1186
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,960
I really don't want to do the thing where Braun

1187
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:09,360
loses and then he beats Punk down the line. Is

1188
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,559
Braun like losing at the Netflix or the first episode

1189
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:14,760
of Raw or is he winning.

1190
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,679
Speaker 5: The the Also, the other report that came out was

1191
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,599
that like he was the favorite, like on the white right,

1192
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:23,800
you know what.

1193
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,639
Speaker 1: Fuck it, he's gonna beat Punk and he's gonna win

1194
00:50:25,679 --> 00:50:27,840
the rumble where you're at Cody and Braun they'renna unite

1195
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,920
the titles again. But yeah, I just I just I

1196
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,239
really hope hashtag plans change. I do not want he

1197
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,920
beats or he loses.

1198
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,079
Speaker 5: With this, Like I feel like this mass man if

1199
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:46,079
he doesn't help Broun win the title, like he just sucks,

1200
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:47,159
like he can't do anything.

1201
00:50:48,639 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: Why are you here?

1202
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: Little war games? Though he got that right games. I

1203
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,920
guess I can see them doing some real tom fuckery where.

1204
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,679
Speaker 6: Take the mask off when it was seth Well.

1205
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: That's no, maybe not that, but I could see it.

1206
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:08,440
I could see it that the mass Man costs Braun

1207
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,719
at Netflix, and that's a big moment where they're both

1208
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,719
down and everyone thinks, oh this u bron wins the

1209
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,280
title and that's how you kind of save Braun from

1210
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,440
like looking bad because that someone screws him.

1211
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,079
Speaker 4: Because I guess we've heard that float.

1212
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,519
Speaker 1: Around to that even the ideas of Seth got back,

1213
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:23,760
they might do Seth and Braun right or even Seth

1214
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:24,199
and Roman.

1215
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 4: So that's where it's like super tough right now.

1216
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: And I guess what I'm trying to get to is

1217
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,280
if all that's up in the Ear of Raw and

1218
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,760
if Roman and Cody is not happening, what are we

1219
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,920
doing again with Cody? We've talked about so many times.

1220
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,519
It's like and it's like, if it's gonna be Punk,

1221
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:40,599
then we should have Punk lose in Netflix, right like,

1222
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,400
or like he should lose and then win that chamber.

1223
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,880
But just like, I really have no idea what's going

1224
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,920
on right now at the world titles scene and both

1225
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:49,400
kind of things like we do, but just like what

1226
00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:51,360
that Mania match is going to be, you know, So

1227
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,400
I don't know. Yeah, it's it's crazy, but yeah, stopped

1228
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,000
in the deky finishes on these big shows.

1229
00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 5: Again.

1230
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: To me, that's something where if I'm a newbie and

1231
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,000
there's this big and just ends in like a meth thing.

1232
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:03,880
It's like it's like if you watch a football game

1233
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,440
that ends in a tie and you're like, oh, like

1234
00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:07,239
I get it, but like, why can't we play another quarter?

1235
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:09,239
I feel it feels like that, And on such a

1236
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,519
big show. I was surprised. But next we got Bailey

1237
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:16,239
versus soul Ruca in another submission of my case of

1238
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,880
why Bailey's Gonna be come an aw because man, they're like, oh,

1239
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,840
going to is big. You know, none of the main

1240
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,880
talent lost except for Bailey, and I'm saying, Pamela, it's time.

1241
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,280
It's time. I know they're leting johnsona come to your

1242
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:30,239
sessions or letting the people go there.

1243
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 4: It's all good.

1244
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: Your contract comes up next year, there, haven't you. You're

1245
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,400
the only person that lost to the NXT town last night.

1246
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:38,800
The writing is on the freaking wall. It's time to

1247
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,239
come over. But this was a really good match. Bailey's

1248
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,760
a ring general. She kind of have a good match

1249
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,679
with anybody. Like I said, I think at the beginning

1250
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:46,760
it started like a little clunky, but then it got there.

1251
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:51,400
I really loved the last sequence of Soul Snatcher in

1252
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:54,440
like Bailey's counter into a victory role. I thought that

1253
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:57,639
was very clever, even though Bailey kind of no, Sol's

1254
00:52:58,079 --> 00:52:59,960
the finisher then because she right away just like count.

1255
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,159
Speaker 6: But I will give it like a bit of grace

1256
00:53:03,159 --> 00:53:04,880
because it was like, oh, she was like out of

1257
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,480
the ring for like right, yeah, no, you're right. Yeah,

1258
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:07,920
she hit the.

1259
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,639
Speaker 5: Small center and I thought they were gonna do a

1260
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,280
classic but she started doing that and Soul grabbed her.

1261
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,039
But then it was like, oh, like I need to

1262
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:18,440
drag her in, and then she dragged her in. She

1263
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:20,320
like stood up and that's when she did, like it

1264
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,320
was right, yeah, she popped up and grabbed her right.

1265
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: No, yeah, you're absolutely right. I take that back. I

1266
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:27,719
forgot it was there was some in between there, so no.

1267
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,760
I thought it was really good. It was kind of

1268
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,440
weird to have, I get because they were a team,

1269
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,599
but like Zari and Lyra there, I thought that something

1270
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:37,599
was going to add to it, like just one way

1271
00:53:37,679 --> 00:53:40,639
or another. And even at the end too, like I

1272
00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:43,159
don't know, I don't think they's checked out, but when

1273
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:45,079
they're just like, yeah they're saloon, they do the It's

1274
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:47,559
just like it was a really weird aftermatch of just

1275
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:49,920
like raising arms and just yeah, I'm happy you beat me, kid,

1276
00:53:50,039 --> 00:53:51,920
Like I don't know it was that part.

1277
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 6: Was they did the same thing.

1278
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 4: Did they?

1279
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,639
Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, but at least with the tag match,

1280
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,880
they looked like they were into it. Where Bailey, she

1281
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:03,639
just looked like, all right, I gotta do this thing now.

1282
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,480
They told me after the match, I gotta do my

1283
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:08,280
salute to John Cena like, and I do think like

1284
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,400
she cares about Johnson, but I also think that you

1285
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,800
could tell that she was very disheveled after the match, like,

1286
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,639
all right, you let someone else beat me. I guess

1287
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,000
now me and my little kid's sidekick Lyra over here

1288
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:20,840
can go on back to the back now.

1289
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we'll see that her.

1290
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,519
Speaker 6: Gear was supposed to be like a homage to like

1291
00:54:26,679 --> 00:54:27,840
the Scena debut.

1292
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw it on Twitter too. That's pretty good.

1293
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,119
But yeah, oh good match, is said. I'm just interested

1294
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:36,239
see what happens with Bailey next shot.

1295
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:36,639
Speaker 4: That's where and.

1296
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: Again I just I think it's it's time to go,

1297
00:54:40,039 --> 00:54:40,840
But who knows.

1298
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:41,519
Speaker 4: Me They're just gonna throw a.

1299
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,119
Speaker 6: Title right before she.

1300
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,599
Speaker 1: Like Chad Gable, right, they game that big heel turn

1301
00:54:48,679 --> 00:54:50,480
and all these promises and what's he doing now? Obviously

1302
00:54:50,519 --> 00:54:52,440
got injured, But just like same thing with Ellie Knight,

1303
00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:54,920
I legitimately do think that's what's gonna happen. It came

1304
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,599
out of his contracts up into that in twenty seven,

1305
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,679
I'm doing I'm doing a trast told you right now.

1306
00:54:59,039 --> 00:55:04,400
Barring him being injured or real life a controversy, I

1307
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,960
think Ellen Knight will win the title in twenty twenty seven.

1308
00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:09,039
That's their way of like kind of keep the ind

1309
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:11,159
And with Bareley, it's just tough because it's like you've

1310
00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:12,960
done all that stuff, right, She's won the rumbles, she's

1311
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,039
won the title just and I just as I said

1312
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:17,079
with the War Games, it just felt like she was

1313
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:18,960
she wasn't in the match, but I just fat she's

1314
00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:21,119
non existing in a lot of this talk of the

1315
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,159
top tier women. But yeah, did you like the Mattress

1316
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:24,519
s Pubs?

1317
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:25,159
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1318
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 6: No, I thought it was really good. Like you're saying,

1319
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,880
like at the Stars kind of weird.

1320
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 5: I feel like Soula's like she's one of those wrestlers

1321
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,320
where it's like it's not like sloppy, but it's like

1322
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,639
that's kind of the way she is.

1323
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 6: She just kind of does like she just moves differently.

1324
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: Than the takes a minute to catch up.

1325
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 5: I'd say it's almost like it's sort of like a

1326
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,000
not exactly a comparison, but like see Him Punk, Like

1327
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,480
it's kind of like the opposite because se him Punk,

1328
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:51,440
but people say it's.

1329
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,679
Speaker 6: Like he's like not athletic at all, but he's a

1330
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:55,440
good wrestler.

1331
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,599
Speaker 5: I feel like sometimes it's like she tries to be

1332
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,159
like she's so athletic that she tries to go for

1333
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,719
stuff that like doesn't even make sense.

1334
00:56:04,159 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, at least it wasn't looking like Selena and

1335
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,760
uh Rhea hunt SmackDown. They like they worked there, So

1336
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:12,400
what were you David?

1337
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 2: Again? It was a good match.

1338
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,599
Speaker 3: I would even venture to say that on a match

1339
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,159
basis alone, it was probably the better of the matches

1340
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,800
of the night. I feel like once they got their stride,

1341
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,239
they really had some good chemistry. I will say that

1342
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,039
the announcers are really big enough. The fact that soul

1343
00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:35,639
Ruka came through the nil deal. Same thing with Obafemi,

1344
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,519
that like they're they're really trying to get that out there. Hey,

1345
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:42,880
all you talented college athletes, just remember these two people

1346
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,719
that you've just seen. They came up through our next

1347
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,199
in line deal, so you could be the next one.

1348
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,840
We found her at Oregon doing tumbling. Who knows what

1349
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,239
can be in store for you. I felt like they

1350
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:58,199
kept driving that home that you know, her collegiate background

1351
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,480
and then finding her in the short time that they've

1352
00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:03,760
been in and now they're on a pl with John

1353
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:04,800
Cena and things like that.

1354
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: But the match itself, it was a good match. I

1355
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,559
thought that they had some great chemistry.

1356
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:12,679
Speaker 3: It's just man, I feel bad for poor Bailey because

1357
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,639
I was hoping that she got to win. I knew

1358
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:17,440
it was a long shot, but I was really just

1359
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:20,239
hoping that they would give her something, especially on a

1360
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,239
big stage like this.

1361
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, well, at least you have to be on

1362
00:57:23,679 --> 00:57:25,800
the stage. I guess right, you get to be a

1363
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,280
part of that show if it's washed back. So you

1364
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,159
had the tag team match, which I I don't have

1365
00:57:32,199 --> 00:57:33,119
too many more thoughts on.

1366
00:57:33,199 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 4: I enjoyed it. I just thought it was a lot.

1367
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: Sure. I thought it was gonna be They're gonna let

1368
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,320
them go a bit more crazy. I was singing like

1369
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,480
a fifteen to eighty minuter and the last five minutes

1370
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:43,000
was gonna be completely crazy and kind of I don't

1371
00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:45,000
know if they didn't want that because they maybe didn't want.

1372
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,639
Speaker 4: To burn out the crowd.

1373
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,079
Speaker 1: That's the case, I would have swapped them the ladies

1374
00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:51,199
not to that, just because Bailey and soul Ruku was

1375
00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:52,280
wrestled in a different way.

1376
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:52,719
Speaker 4: At the start.

1377
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: But even though it doesn't matter, they don't burn out

1378
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,079
the crowd because they have a bunch of segments and

1379
00:57:57,159 --> 00:57:58,639
they have I forgot to mention that another reason why

1380
00:57:58,719 --> 00:57:59,400
I hate the show.

1381
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,039
Speaker 4: The soupid is our truth Johannry thing.

1382
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:04,519
Speaker 1: It's just like I thought they was setting up for

1383
00:58:04,599 --> 00:58:06,840
some really big o scena this past I'm not saying

1384
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:09,519
ed being one of those fans like oh Adam Copenan's

1385
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:10,000
gonna be her, no.

1386
00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 4: But just oh man. But yeah, I was just surprised.

1387
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: I thought this match was gonna be a bit longer

1388
00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:17,599
and a bit more crazier, but was still a fun match.

1389
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree exactly what you said. It was six

1390
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,360
and a half minutes. Was this match six and a

1391
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:26,000
half minutes?

1392
00:58:26,039 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: Pease?

1393
00:58:29,079 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 3: I did feel a little bit bad for Javon and

1394
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,000
Leon Slater after seeing that it was six and a

1395
00:58:33,039 --> 00:58:34,880
half minutes, because I wish they would have gotten a

1396
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,119
little bit more time, and that it was a good match.

1397
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,239
And I will say that between the three matches preceding

1398
00:58:43,639 --> 00:58:46,079
the going thro Johan Seena match, it does make me

1399
00:58:46,199 --> 00:58:48,599
want to pay a little bit more attention to NXT

1400
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,880
after watching all three of these matches. So in that right,

1401
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,079
they got me to start thinking, Okay, I need to

1402
00:58:56,119 --> 00:58:58,880
do more than just get s bub's updates on Tuesday

1403
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,679
nights via discord of how XT's doing.

1404
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1405
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: Well, and that's that's what they do want, right, They

1406
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:06,119
want you and that's a good thing. Like I think

1407
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,960
we talked about this before and I suppose was completely

1408
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,639
right on his prediction as far as who would be there,

1409
00:59:10,679 --> 00:59:12,239
but they picked the Bright Town as well to be

1410
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:15,719
select and highlighted between. I think with soul Ruka doesn't

1411
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,119
matter what people feel about to finish or the way

1412
00:59:18,199 --> 00:59:20,400
she works, It's like she has a certain she has

1413
00:59:20,519 --> 00:59:23,320
like close that like what people talk about would Jay

1414
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:26,039
So or Jeff Hardy, where there's just like a likable

1415
00:59:26,159 --> 00:59:29,320
quality that you just can't teach to somebody. Right, Oba

1416
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,760
has whatever we talked about, and then Jayon and Leon Slater,

1417
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,079
you know, the future Dirty Stars, just like they have,

1418
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,559
they have certain talents and skills that are are very good.

1419
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:41,199
I'm sure, of course there's tons of other people in

1420
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,320
XC that are great well too, but I can see

1421
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,239
why they selected some of them. But yeah, any thoughts

1422
00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:46,840
on this one?

1423
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 6: Uh, the tag match now, I pretty much just talked

1424
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,159
about it already. I just thought, yeah, it was it.

1425
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:54,800
They did all their their.

1426
00:59:54,719 --> 00:59:57,719
Speaker 5: Spots as fast as possible, but I thought it was

1427
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,719
still a fun match. And like you said, in terms

1428
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,159
of I pick, I'd say, like for what WW wants

1429
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,480
in like the wrestlers, I thought it made like That's

1430
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,400
why I went with these, Like I feel like they

1431
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,760
all have like that that like the IT factors, they

1432
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,960
like the marketability Like it's like, yeah, they have like

1433
01:00:18,159 --> 01:00:20,920
like OVI feminees, l Ruka, like they have unique looks.

1434
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 6: And like Javon and Leon like they have well even

1435
01:00:24,039 --> 01:00:24,760
like Triple H.

1436
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 5: Like on the post show he was talking about like

1437
01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:30,400
they asked him about Javon and Leon and he's saying

1438
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,960
something like there's a lot of guys who have like

1439
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,360
they have what they say it's like there's a lot

1440
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,320
of guys who have like that sort of like extreme

1441
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,280
athleticism and do all the spots because yeah, but then

1442
01:00:43,559 --> 01:00:46,800
they have no personality. But these guys have have all

1443
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:51,079
the ability and all the personality. So and some people

1444
01:00:51,079 --> 01:00:53,880
are like always taking shots at Ricochet, but I don't know.

1445
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 4: I don't know that's the case.

1446
01:00:57,719 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: But like, honestly, if Triple Ah is there, if there's

1447
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,320
a scenario where you're looking his head and Shawn Sin's

1448
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,440
last match, I gotta take some shots at Ricochet.

1449
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,719
Speaker 4: It's just like then we are in trouble.

1450
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: If that's like really, especially because like I think in

1451
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,039
aw he has shown like some of his best stuff

1452
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:15,119
has when he was like that kind of psycho nerd thing, right,

1453
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:17,719
I feel like he's Ricochet's regressed again.

1454
01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:18,119
Speaker 4: With this group.

1455
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: I think this group's actually done no favorites for Ricochet.

1456
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,199
I think it's gona give him a clutch. But before

1457
01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:25,519
when he was doing like the he's wearing a sweater

1458
01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:28,000
vest and the glasses, but then he's murdering someone's scissors,

1459
01:01:28,039 --> 01:01:30,320
It's like, yeah, that's a fun different type of gimmick.

1460
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,519
Now he's just like classic chicken shit heel guy. But yeah,

1461
01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:36,000
if trium Baher's honestly think of that on last night,

1462
01:01:36,199 --> 01:01:37,159
we're in big trouble.

1463
01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 4: We're in big trouble.

1464
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:38,239
Speaker 5: You know.

1465
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,119
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I think he's in the Diamond Ring.

1466
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 5: He's royal and so so you know, Sean's gonna eliminate him,

1467
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:46,960
and this Sheet's.

1468
01:01:46,639 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: Gonna tack in hell man, I yeah, we'll we'll get there. Yeah,

1469
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,079
anything else I'm trying to think we had. Yeah, okay,

1470
01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:57,599
So for the Tag team, so yeah, you're still convinced

1471
01:01:57,679 --> 01:01:59,679
Jay heel turn's coming and they're not getting those tag

1472
01:01:59,719 --> 01:02:01,039
type think the way they're.

1473
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 5: Doing it, because they're doing like when they like Reunited,

1474
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:07,400
it was like they they came out to just Jay's

1475
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:10,840
music and Jay wasn't saying anything, like Jay was just quiet.

1476
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 6: Well, Jimmy was like Jay.

1477
01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 5: Like he's lost to l A Knight, He's lost the

1478
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,880
good there, He's lost to everybody. And Jay wasn't like

1479
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,559
saying anything, and then it was and then his only

1480
01:02:20,639 --> 01:02:23,199
response was like, yeah, I just decided, you know, I

1481
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,639
need my brother and we're gonna win those titles. So

1482
01:02:25,719 --> 01:02:28,199
I feel like they're gonna beat the New Day. They're

1483
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:31,360
gonna go for the titles like they're gonna lose and

1484
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,400
then he's gonna like shoot chair shot Jimmy.

1485
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 4: So shoot shoot.

1486
01:02:39,079 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: I would love it. I don't think they do this.

1487
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,000
One of my favorite heel turns of all time is

1488
01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:46,400
the Second Shield breakup when Seth and Dean won the

1489
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,920
titles and then right after they won the titles, Ambrose

1490
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,800
turn on them. I would love them to do that

1491
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,679
where Jay wins it and then like kind of even

1492
01:02:53,719 --> 01:02:55,679
says like, oh you like more like Jimmy, you need

1493
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,719
me so like we're the reason we won these titles,

1494
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,599
But I don't really need to do that, and like

1495
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:01,719
does it matter because like a j and dragonly like

1496
01:03:01,719 --> 01:03:03,199
they're not gonna be a long term tag team.

1497
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 4: So I love that.

1498
01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: Just the Jay so heel turned things scares me because.

1499
01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:11,519
Speaker 5: Like like they're gonna do like the nodi Q Jimmy

1500
01:03:11,679 --> 01:03:15,719
versus j I know we can't, we can't. The most

1501
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,320
they both said that like they know the match was

1502
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,960
bad last time. I feel like they're gonna want they

1503
01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:24,079
want to redeem it.

1504
01:03:25,239 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: How much power does the Simone dynasty have? Then you

1505
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,360
don't you can redeem it on like a backlash, but

1506
01:03:30,719 --> 01:03:33,679
not at WrestleMania. I just because like at the same time,

1507
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,639
I know, everyone celebrate when people are putting those tweets

1508
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:39,159
of like the singles runs over like all these means,

1509
01:03:39,199 --> 01:03:42,559
but it's just like majority of the mainstream audience still

1510
01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:45,400
like has a good time with jau So it goes

1511
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,920
back and forth, but they're still yen, They're still doing

1512
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,199
this stuff like they don't care the same way we do.

1513
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,119
So it's just and I don't think Jay's maybe who

1514
01:03:53,199 --> 01:03:56,199
knows because Naomi that was a surprise, but I just

1515
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:58,000
I just don't.

1516
01:03:59,159 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 5: Like he like kills Jimmy and he goes off on

1517
01:04:02,239 --> 01:04:03,639
his paternity leave there.

1518
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,639
Speaker 1: Well I could see it before because I still think

1519
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,440
remember they did that goddamn tribal hair trademark. I still

1520
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:14,400
if he turns heel, I do not think Roman versus

1521
01:04:14,519 --> 01:04:16,199
Jay is off the table. I think there's a good

1522
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,519
chance that that happens with Jimmy like making the safe

1523
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:22,199
or like making like doing something like that like I

1524
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,639
which I don't think is as much as like Roman

1525
01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:28,320
and Cody scares me. Roman and j heel J. I

1526
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:34,320
don't know how that's that sounds like a scary WrestleMania

1527
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,880
match up. To me that that has I cannot wait

1528
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,000
to listen to Meltzer's review of that match if that

1529
01:04:41,159 --> 01:04:43,320
match happens, And you know, and I wonder, like what

1530
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:48,880
Jay's heel entrances but he does off for some reason,

1531
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,360
but like I wonder, But uh, okay, So I'm I'm

1532
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,079
gonna just to be positive. Say no, I'm gonna say

1533
01:04:56,119 --> 01:04:58,679
they win the titles and they're just happy. Maybe they

1534
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,079
break the up down the line. And what do you

1535
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:03,079
think is happening with the tag titles, David? It was

1536
01:05:03,199 --> 01:05:05,239
just winning this right away. Do you think there's some

1537
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,960
chicane ray in there gonna be a heel turn? What

1538
01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:08,760
do you think is happening?

1539
01:05:09,199 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna turn j heel just yet

1540
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,360
because there's still so much money within his shirts and

1541
01:05:15,519 --> 01:05:18,199
his entrance and everything else. So but I do think

1542
01:05:18,239 --> 01:05:21,119
that they're gonna be winning the tag team titles pretty soon.

1543
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll say I wanted to be them just winning

1544
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,119
it and them facing like I don't know, like the

1545
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,440
Lucha brosat Mania, But I feel like it's gonna be

1546
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:31,599
the the Jades here.

1547
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that'd be I didn't even think about that.

1548
01:05:36,039 --> 01:05:40,519
The Brothers us Brothers Tag Team. Yeah, yeah, there's something

1549
01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:42,199
there or they just do a schmaws. There was like

1550
01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:45,039
four of them everything, So we'll see. Is there anything

1551
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,519
WW related wise, we've talked about like big storylines, something

1552
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:49,320
we've missed out.

1553
01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:56,719
Speaker 6: On taking out. People think he's been fired by by

1554
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:57,719
Triple Age. First.

1555
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: That was weird.

1556
01:05:58,559 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 4: That was that was a weird.

1557
01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: That was an odd, odd scenario of people thinking that.

1558
01:06:04,039 --> 01:06:06,199
But uh, I guess it's just doing this thing.

1559
01:06:06,239 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 5: I feel like he like returns in the rumble. I

1560
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,760
feel like they do this every year where someone gets

1561
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,599
like taken out and then they come back.

1562
01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:16,519
Speaker 1: In the Rumble and maybe even up to like the Mania.

1563
01:06:16,719 --> 01:06:18,079
Speaker 5: You know. Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure

1564
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:20,519
he has like the most matches worked out of anyone,

1565
01:06:20,639 --> 01:06:23,840
so he does just be like he gets his Christmas

1566
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:24,400
break here.

1567
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I listened to a Scena episode where he said,

1568
01:06:28,679 --> 01:06:30,760
like the most matches this year was La Night with

1569
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,599
seventy seventies, Like I used to be wrestling like two

1570
01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:33,000
hundred and.

1571
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 4: Fifty six, So you know, it is crazy that way.

1572
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, oh, I guess like.

1573
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,079
Speaker 5: The uh, well, we don't really know if we're gonna

1574
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:44,519
have a show before the the fifth, I guess, or.

1575
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: I guess not, but I well, I think we'll have

1576
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,239
a I think I think we'd probably have a because like, well, yeah,

1577
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,239
even if it's that weekend. Yeah, I guess one hundred

1578
01:06:52,239 --> 01:06:53,159
percent confirms Yeah.

1579
01:06:53,239 --> 01:06:55,239
Speaker 5: So I'll say the other big thing is like the

1580
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:59,159
whole women's tag titles thing or like now there's like

1581
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:00,599
every single team in there.

1582
01:07:01,079 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: Right They've not officially made any matches though, right, No,

1583
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:06,079
they've sort of.

1584
01:07:06,159 --> 01:07:09,639
Speaker 5: Just had been having like singles matches between different people

1585
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,960
involved in all the teams. So it still makes me

1586
01:07:12,039 --> 01:07:16,719
wonder because right now there'd be I think six teams,

1587
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:21,199
so it would be Rianneo Charlotte and Alexa Bailey and

1588
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:29,519
Lyra Roxan and Live the Kabooki Warriors, Lash and Naya.

1589
01:07:30,719 --> 01:07:33,280
I think that's everyone who's involved in it so far.

1590
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,960
So I'm wondering, like, is it just gonna be like

1591
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,320
a massive I guess i'd be like the six Pack

1592
01:07:39,519 --> 01:07:43,599
Challenge TLC match, it's like one option or do you

1593
01:07:43,719 --> 01:07:45,400
do something else like a gauntlet or.

1594
01:07:45,519 --> 01:07:48,119
Speaker 1: Takeing Turmoil used to be yeah, which is a gauntlet

1595
01:07:48,199 --> 01:07:50,920
one by one? Yeah, I don't I would love it, obviously,

1596
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,360
what I would love them to do is do some

1597
01:07:53,519 --> 01:07:55,920
sort of screwy finish where the titles get vacated and

1598
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,199
then do like a big tournament.

1599
01:07:57,239 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 4: I know we've just did the Seen A tournament, but

1600
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:01,000
I'd it if you could do that.

1601
01:08:01,079 --> 01:08:02,679
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think your theory when

1602
01:08:02,679 --> 01:08:04,719
you said, like whether it's some sort of multiple MENTLC

1603
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,039
or something that makes sense. I'm just trying to think

1604
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:08,840
about where they place it. Do they think that's on

1605
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,199
the first Netflix or do they put them smacked And

1606
01:08:11,199 --> 01:08:13,800
because smackton is going to three hours now right beginning

1607
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,319
of January, so I think you should probably do in

1608
01:08:16,399 --> 01:08:18,359
SmackDown where you give them the main event and then

1609
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,079
just make like the last hour like with Entrances, Yeah,

1610
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:25,760
with the Entrances celebration the last hour that thing. And

1611
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,720
because I think too that I'll signify as far as.

1612
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,279
Speaker 4: What are we doing with everybody?

1613
01:08:30,359 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 5: Right?

1614
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: What are we doing with Charlotte and Alexa? What are

1615
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,399
we doing with Rio and EO? Because like I fee

1616
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:39,640
fill with like Ria and EO, it's if they pull

1617
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,880
the trigger and give them the titles. I honestly think

1618
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,640
they might have them till media. They might just run

1619
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,119
with that for a little bit. So that's where it's like,

1620
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:47,560
I with with this match will tell us a lot

1621
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,439
what's going on. I think Lash and I are good

1622
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:50,920
to be like a tag team for a little bit.

1623
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,199
But same thing with Charlotte is she just gonna be

1624
01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:55,279
a tag team person in Gannaicamania or they don't want

1625
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:58,119
to get her ready for WrestleMania. What is going because

1626
01:08:58,119 --> 01:09:00,279
she lost? Is Tiffany and like hurt or she just

1627
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:01,920
time off right now, She's.

1628
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 6: Just time off. She was like all off all social

1629
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,960
media until like a few days ago.

1630
01:09:07,039 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: And all I saw, Yeah, everyone's talking about who her

1631
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:11,880
new guys and everything like that.

1632
01:09:12,079 --> 01:09:15,239
Speaker 5: But I think she's also Saudi Arabia two with like

1633
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,840
Randy and Live and a bunch of other people.

1634
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,039
Speaker 6: Oh Moss is there. I believe he is.

1635
01:09:21,119 --> 01:09:23,039
Speaker 1: I saw him behind, Like what's a loss in there?

1636
01:09:23,079 --> 01:09:25,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I feel like she'll come back.

1637
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 5: I feel like she might just come back whenever Jade

1638
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,560
has her next title defense.

1639
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: What a fucking just loop. They've been on the SmackDown

1640
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,560
Women's They've been in this loop since like the week

1641
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,359
after WrestleMania. It's kind of crazy.

1642
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:46,279
Speaker 5: So and the whole thing with Mechen Cory Gridge just

1643
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:50,319
like buried her on a commentary After's like they had

1644
01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:52,680
a segment where like, because it was supposed to be

1645
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,319
like Jade versus Michen, We're gonna have a match on SmackDown,

1646
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:00,159
like non title and Michen is like in Gorilla how

1647
01:10:00,199 --> 01:10:02,319
to make her entrance, and she's like cutting a promo

1648
01:10:03,039 --> 01:10:06,199
and Jade just like attacks her from behind and then

1649
01:10:06,399 --> 01:10:11,199
walks out. It's like like I forget, but she she

1650
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:13,600
said like, oh, I don't need to fight Michin anymore.

1651
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,600
And then Meechen came out with like a kendostick started

1652
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,279
hitting her, but then Jade just like gets the upper

1653
01:10:19,319 --> 01:10:22,319
hand again, choke slams her and walks away, and Corey

1654
01:10:22,399 --> 01:10:24,000
Grace was like, I don't think we're ever going to

1655
01:10:24,039 --> 01:10:25,239
see Meachin challenging for.

1656
01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 1: The title again, which is I'm sure they probably still

1657
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,399
will do it because I will do like.

1658
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,319
Speaker 5: The No d Q match, especially since they had like

1659
01:10:37,399 --> 01:10:39,359
Meechen was like about to get a table and like

1660
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,439
Jane threw it away and stuff like that.

1661
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, well and even then Jay, they're just trying

1662
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:45,880
to figure so out because it wasn't a couple of

1663
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:47,720
weeks ago, they just had her like beat up Chelsea

1664
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,760
Green for all the reasons.

1665
01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 5: Just yeah, she like she squat, Yeah, she she beat

1666
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,079
up Chelsea Green. Then she had actually just like squashed

1667
01:10:56,199 --> 01:11:00,680
like Alba fire, and like like two minutes she had another.

1668
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,560
Oh like bfab, she just like squashed be fab.

1669
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: So it's so funny that I because I remember, I

1670
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,920
think it was PW Insider because they I think they

1671
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,239
were the ones to confirmed the three hours and then

1672
01:11:11,319 --> 01:11:13,439
the same report it's like WW knows that there's some

1673
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,840
issues with SmackDown, then there were gonna beat it up.

1674
01:11:16,079 --> 01:11:18,159
I feel like I've seen this same report three other

1675
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:20,600
times this year, Like they know smackdowns and issue, It's

1676
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,880
like they fucking fix the issue. I don't care if

1677
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,680
ro Dog's your boy or whatever, like bringing new writers

1678
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,800
send him there next to like if you know it's

1679
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,880
an issue for this long, it's like, why is it

1680
01:11:30,039 --> 01:11:32,760
still an issue? Like we're getting close to Mania season,

1681
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,239
like you got last year's bill was kind of men enough,

1682
01:11:35,359 --> 01:11:37,640
like start getting that going, get it to it because

1683
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,720
like the last few times I've watched SmackDown, I'm like, man,

1684
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,239
this show is very tough. The last time I watched

1685
01:11:42,279 --> 01:11:44,840
was something that stupid Cody and Drew Deek you finished.

1686
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,039
We didn't talk about that out now it's like because

1687
01:11:47,039 --> 01:11:49,119
I'm not watching weekly and Esbos you told me before

1688
01:11:49,159 --> 01:11:51,079
and then we talk about Drew. But it's just like, so,

1689
01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:53,199
what are we gonna do Cody and Drew, whether it's

1690
01:11:53,239 --> 01:11:55,159
the first smack down the Air or at Rumble and

1691
01:11:55,319 --> 01:11:57,920
Cody's gonna beat him again? It's like, man like, at

1692
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,640
least with the Jane Tiffany thing, it's like their first

1693
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,840
match ends in DQ. Tiffany wins the first one, Jade

1694
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,359
wins the next one, so like technically there is a

1695
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,880
story of It's kind of like the rubber match, right that, Okay,

1696
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,439
they're both tied one. What's gonna happen with Drew? It's like,

1697
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,439
oh four, like like what's this like? And I guess

1698
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,119
the story was what last and didn't Trew get like

1699
01:12:17,239 --> 01:12:19,880
a three counter someone? The ref was down right, they

1700
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,680
did that at CERTA makes main events. I think that's

1701
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,840
they're gonna be the story of, like, oh man, but

1702
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,640
then they also just had him geek out to fucking

1703
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,079
Drew like or Oba like and that's fine. Oba's top shit,

1704
01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:31,000
but just like they use them in just such a

1705
01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:34,560
like let's just make Oba look strong, Like I love McIntyre,

1706
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,000
but they've done like I have no interest in Cody

1707
01:12:37,039 --> 01:12:39,159
and him again, other than Drew winning.

1708
01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:41,039
Speaker 4: That's the only way is like Drew.

1709
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,239
Speaker 1: Has to win. But I feel like we've said that

1710
01:12:42,359 --> 01:12:44,640
like the last two times, and he don't win. He

1711
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,359
doesn't win. He just like Cody finds a way to prevail.

1712
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:48,399
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

1713
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 5: I will say the only other good story on Smack

1714
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:55,000
done right now is the the Ilias stuff, because I.

1715
01:12:55,039 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: Want to watch that Champa match. I've heard great things

1716
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,479
about it, and I like, I used to.

1717
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 5: Say he hadn't done it much in this run, but before,

1718
01:13:03,039 --> 01:13:05,399
like in his previous before he got Injuri used to

1719
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,199
say he would bleed in every single match, but like

1720
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,439
like like busted out, Like he wouldn't played like you

1721
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,279
get busted a hard single match.

1722
01:13:13,399 --> 01:13:15,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, and this one was like this.

1723
01:13:15,079 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 5: Is probably one of his most extat like it looked

1724
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,800
like he broke his nose or something because he was

1725
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,640
bleeding like crazy in this match.

1726
01:13:23,119 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 6: But the matches have been really good.

1727
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,199
Speaker 5: They kind of they've kind of like they call it

1728
01:13:27,279 --> 01:13:29,560
the Open Challenge but it's not really been an open

1729
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,960
challenge anymore. It's more like he's just defending the title

1730
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,800
of every week. But it's like it's not like he

1731
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,079
waits in the ring and someone random comes out. It's

1732
01:13:37,119 --> 01:13:40,039
like they've been doing story lines with it, like, oh,

1733
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:42,119
this person wants a title shot, so they talked to

1734
01:13:42,279 --> 01:13:44,680
Nick all this and Early is defending this week.

1735
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, because it was it was like a I wouldn't. Yeah,

1736
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,159
it was a weird, like for Dragon off being like

1737
01:13:54,199 --> 01:13:55,960
I'll take on all comers and he was always like

1738
01:13:56,239 --> 01:13:58,119
but not you. It was it was an odd story.

1739
01:13:58,199 --> 01:13:59,920
But like, I'm excited to watch batch because I'm a

1740
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:02,600
big Champa fan from the the old n x T days.

1741
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,359
He was a great hel and uh yeah, i've heard

1742
01:14:05,399 --> 01:14:06,239
nothing at things.

1743
01:14:06,279 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 5: That's cool, I'll say the story Now it seems like

1744
01:14:09,399 --> 01:14:13,159
it might actually happen that Carmelaays wins.

1745
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 6: This this US title because really the whole thing with.

1746
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 5: Champa is last week, Ilia defended against uh Mello and

1747
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,640
Melo is like about to win and Champa like threw

1748
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:28,000
him off the ring post and like then but Ilia

1749
01:14:28,079 --> 01:14:31,560
didn't cecil then he and then he was mad that

1750
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,479
like Champo like like Mellow lost like unfairly. So then

1751
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,479
he finally did the match against Champa. D I Y

1752
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,239
and Candice come out there at the end after after

1753
01:14:41,359 --> 01:14:43,520
he beat Champa and they start beating him up.

1754
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 6: Mello comes out to the safe to like a mega

1755
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:47,000
pop just.

1756
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,079
Speaker 5: And they're channing for Melow and he's like, you know,

1757
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,880
he's he takes out d I Y on his own

1758
01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:56,520
and then you know, he helps with Ilia. So I

1759
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,239
feel like they're gonna do like him and him and

1760
01:14:59,359 --> 01:15:02,399
Ilia against d I Y. They probably beat d I

1761
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,600
Y there, and then it seems I could see us

1762
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:09,039
being first SmackDown of the year of doing Ilia versus

1763
01:15:09,159 --> 01:15:12,159
Mellow for the US title again with Melow winning.

1764
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,319
Speaker 1: Do you think they're gonna do that? They're like baby

1765
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,920
Babyface and mel is just gonna beat them. That's my

1766
01:15:17,039 --> 01:15:17,560
only thing is.

1767
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 5: I mean, they already did the match before a babyface babyface.

1768
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 4: But but I can't. But he didn't beat him, right,

1769
01:15:25,039 --> 01:15:26,520
Like I know, he beats Sam and.

1770
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 5: Shampa Costam and like Ilia hit his finisher and like

1771
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,840
pinned them, and the crowd was like booing Ilia that.

1772
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:35,079
Speaker 6: That Melow lost.

1773
01:15:36,079 --> 01:15:37,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And I.

1774
01:15:37,199 --> 01:15:39,079
Speaker 5: Think this would be their fit and they have like

1775
01:15:39,159 --> 01:15:41,680
a like if you count their next matches, I think

1776
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,840
they'd be tied because I think it's like Mellow, Like

1777
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:51,640
I think Mellow retained once Ilia beat him, Ilia retained

1778
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,600
over him, then retained the US titles. Then if Mellow

1779
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,199
beats him for the US title, they'd be tied.

1780
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I hope, So I hope that's happens. Just because

1781
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,239
the booking has been with him. I'm gonna say it's

1782
01:16:04,319 --> 01:16:06,119
not gonna happen. I say they're what they're gonna do

1783
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:08,640
those They're gonna wait and see if the pops and

1784
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,600
stuff sustained like the caring for So what I bet

1785
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,840
is they're gonna give Mellow a great match with Elia,

1786
01:16:15,119 --> 01:16:18,439
but he's still gonna lose. But then will We'll see

1787
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,199
because I could also see the US title. I wonder

1788
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,800
WrestleMania if that if he gets a a one on

1789
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,439
one match or if that's like a four six way

1790
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,239
type of match with Elia and stuff, and that's where

1791
01:16:29,239 --> 01:16:31,840
it's like I could see Mellow maybe getting it, but

1792
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,680
I don't know. Yeah, yeah, well we'll see. We're getting

1793
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,640
the Rumbles season now we're getting Do you have any

1794
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:42,119
draft updates spubs or have you not done that? Sure? Yeah,

1795
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:44,159
give us that in the old transition, aw after that

1796
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,520
because yeah, we only got two matches for olds in

1797
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,439
right now, so well three, I guess.

1798
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 6: But so David has five hundred seventy two points.

1799
01:16:55,039 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 5: Uh, Travis has eight hundred and seventy one points, and

1800
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,600
I have eight hundred and twenty seven points.

1801
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So I just need Jericho not to come back,

1802
01:17:05,079 --> 01:17:09,000
Tony Kahan. I need you to give that big contract.

1803
01:17:09,079 --> 01:17:13,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, all of Carlos Silva that money.

1804
01:17:14,399 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 1: Jered good exactly.

1805
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 6: But even then I feel like you show up in

1806
01:17:18,039 --> 01:17:18,479
the road.

1807
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: He would Yeah, that'shy I don't want that. I want him.

1808
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,000
I want him in aw now just for this point.

1809
01:17:23,119 --> 01:17:24,800
But uh yeah, speaking of that, like I said, we

1810
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,439
don't have much. We have what we talked about the

1811
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,640
last two episodes, which you kind of thought, and it's

1812
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,199
right now. Currently the main event I'm assuming is Joe

1813
01:17:31,319 --> 01:17:34,159
versus Swore versus hang Man. Now the Diamond ring thing,

1814
01:17:34,279 --> 01:17:37,399
is that happening this Wednesday or is the next Wednesday?

1815
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 6: I think this Wednesday?

1816
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 1: This Wednesday, so, and I can't remember because it's dumb rules.

1817
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,800
But MGFF doesn't have to he's also be in the

1818
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,800
Battle Royal, right, I think no, he's just defending.

1819
01:17:50,279 --> 01:17:52,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they I think what they did this

1820
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,319
year is like I believe what they said is like

1821
01:17:55,399 --> 01:17:57,279
they have the Battle Royal to get like this shot

1822
01:17:57,359 --> 01:18:01,720
at the ring and also for a title shot. But

1823
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,920
then I think they also mentioned something it's like, oh,

1824
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,560
we don't know where MJF is, so if he doesn't

1825
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,960
show up, then they get the ring or something like that.

1826
01:18:09,399 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: Okay, because yeah, there's there wasn't think the second year

1827
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,119
they did it that he was in the Battle Royal Again,

1828
01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:16,119
it was the last two that did it. But I

1829
01:18:16,199 --> 01:18:18,479
think they've changed that. So I guess we'll see in

1830
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,680
the coming weeks. But I'm sure mgff's coming back.

1831
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 5: I'm sure this is the thing needs to be that

1832
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,640
he needs to cash in one week in advance, like

1833
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,800
he's gonna show up to this contract signing and cash in.

1834
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,399
Speaker 1: For a second, maybe I was delusional. I really actually

1835
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,319
enjoyed the match. For a second, I thought they were

1836
01:18:36,359 --> 01:18:38,680
gonna have Eddie beat Joe because I thought I always

1837
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,039
thought Eddie Kingston the world type run he would get

1838
01:18:41,079 --> 01:18:42,720
would be like a month, a couple of weeks and

1839
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,479
I thought, Man, imagine that he'll heat of Eddie winning

1840
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,439
next week, he gets his victory speech and MGFF.

1841
01:18:48,199 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 4: Just beats him for it because I was like, oh,

1842
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:50,880
I can see the vision.

1843
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,119
Speaker 1: I can see like why they want to do this.

1844
01:18:53,319 --> 01:18:55,359
I still don't see the vision of this match of

1845
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,600
Joe Swerven Hangman and MGFF. Don't get wrong, I think

1846
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,600
the actual match will be good. I just don't. I

1847
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,439
guess I don't see the vision of MGF wins. You know,

1848
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,600
if he loses, then we'll talk about. But if he wins,

1849
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,279
I always say, Okay, well you just should have kept

1850
01:19:07,319 --> 01:19:09,439
it on Hangman for that time. It would you could

1851
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,600
still do the same storyline and him versus different ops

1852
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,039
people everything like that. Obviously we'll see what happens there,

1853
01:19:16,199 --> 01:19:18,079
but yeah, we'll shoe well.

1854
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 5: I've been meaning about like MGF just winning it right away,

1855
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,760
but I feel like he'll lose here, but with the

1856
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,760
diamond ring gimmick, he'll get another title shot.

1857
01:19:28,279 --> 01:19:30,039
Speaker 1: I kind of love, I kind of love like I

1858
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:33,119
want this. It's not the same way because they did

1859
01:19:33,119 --> 01:19:35,239
the whole week thing. I've always wanted this to happen.

1860
01:19:35,279 --> 01:19:37,399
I think I've pitched this before where I want a

1861
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,600
money in the bank winner to get a Number one

1862
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:43,079
Contenders match, have the match and it go super close

1863
01:19:43,159 --> 01:19:45,399
and they lose it, but then they attack the person

1864
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,920
after the match in cashing right there. I've always wanted that,

1865
01:19:48,359 --> 01:19:49,880
and I wish they could have done that with the

1866
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,520
cash and where let's say he wins the diamond ring thing,

1867
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,479
he gets the shot, he loses the Joe or in

1868
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,640
the four way, but then after cheats the way to

1869
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,600
do it. No one's done the I'm waiting for someone

1870
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,199
they're going to do in like.

1871
01:20:00,279 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 6: The for viden door match, because that was before they

1872
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,000
changed the rules.

1873
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I thought Vin was gonna beat him and

1874
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,840
then like the heel he would have been like he

1875
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:08,960
cashed in right away.

1876
01:20:09,159 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that to me is like a great way

1877
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,520
of like or even if imagine you get the Network

1878
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,359
Contenders match and you just start that match off for

1879
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,560
like a low blow. You just beat the shit out

1880
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,239
of the guy, and then you cash and right after

1881
01:20:18,359 --> 01:20:20,359
like such a good Healy way of like, oh, I

1882
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,199
was never gonna wrestle that match. I was just gonna

1883
01:20:22,279 --> 01:20:24,399
use it to like take advantage and take you out.

1884
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,880
But uh, Dave, what do you think's happening here at

1885
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,760
again MGF not confirmed, but that looks to be the

1886
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,119
thing at Worlds and the swoarway.

1887
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 4: Is MGF just taking it?

1888
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:33,079
Speaker 6: Is it?

1889
01:20:33,399 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 4: Is there a Swerve in there?

1890
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 3: I think MJF comes back, but I'm not sure if

1891
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,000
MJF takes it. I think that this could be a

1892
01:20:41,119 --> 01:20:43,399
chance that you could put the title back on Swerve

1893
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,359
for a bit, because I mean he was he was

1894
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,960
rocking and rolling for a while before injuries started to

1895
01:20:48,079 --> 01:20:51,319
derail him. And I know how much TK absolutely loves him,

1896
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,640
so this could be a chance to put it back

1897
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:55,039
on him.

1898
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:57,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's one of those like the people talk

1899
01:20:57,279 --> 01:20:59,800
about like fed soldiers, like he's a dub soldier.

1900
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 4: He because if.

1901
01:21:00,399 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: People don't remember him. Adam Cole Weord the two people

1902
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,399
that supposedly WW tried to like contract town for with

1903
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,760
and they both went to Tony or like, hey, what's

1904
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,720
going on? And I guarantee there's some people that didn't

1905
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,239
go to Tony and were like just kept it quiet,

1906
01:21:13,279 --> 01:21:15,199
But Swerve was one of those people that went like, hey,

1907
01:21:15,239 --> 01:21:15,920
they're trying to like.

1908
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,359
Speaker 4: Get me out of this contract right now.

1909
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 1: And obviously Swerve signed that Big five year deal two, right,

1910
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,319
so like he's a guy like more than MGF. You know,

1911
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,640
it swears around. I wouldn't mind it because like they

1912
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,600
still have not done the swerve MGF like full storyline.

1913
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,520
I think there's lots of meat on that bone. With

1914
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,840
those two, it's just a question. And I think also

1915
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,399
for them, it's kind of like what we've talked about

1916
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,680
with Seth and everything. I think with their next six

1917
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,439
to eight months plans, it's all about like what's happening

1918
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,119
with Ospray, right, because if he is good to go

1919
01:21:43,279 --> 01:21:45,960
for all in, then like clearly that's the plan, right,

1920
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,840
it's probably MGF versus Ospray. He'll babyface Osprey gets a

1921
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:54,119
big win. But if he's not cleared, that completely changes

1922
01:21:54,199 --> 01:21:56,239
to me what allin would be, especially they're back in London,

1923
01:21:56,279 --> 01:21:57,880
so it's like I don't know what the plan could be,

1924
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,239
and they probably know better about oustbrey condition than us clearly,

1925
01:22:01,359 --> 01:22:04,000
so yeah, we'll have to see. And then on the.

1926
01:22:04,159 --> 01:22:07,239
Speaker 6: Women's because I think he had like next surgery, right,

1927
01:22:07,319 --> 01:22:11,000
so that's like you never know how long that could take.

1928
01:22:11,319 --> 01:22:14,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a bigger one too, So and then

1929
01:22:14,079 --> 01:22:16,479
on the women's side, right now, I kind of missed

1930
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,479
this match was confirmed. I've not watched Collision, but this

1931
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,479
is the juice. This is Chris Statler versus Jamie Hayter.

1932
01:22:24,039 --> 01:22:26,880
I did pitch just a couple episodes ago. I pitched

1933
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,800
it though, Hater turning on Statlander.

1934
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:34,279
Speaker 5: So I still see the female hangman versus a joke

1935
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:35,680
where they do a few.

1936
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 6: Of these with yes turning.

1937
01:22:38,039 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I think is gonna happen, because I

1938
01:22:40,079 --> 01:22:43,520
don't know because if Stantleinder, I guess there are doing

1939
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,560
like I guess you could do Statlander beats and they

1940
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,159
just do another babyface for stat Lander.

1941
01:22:47,199 --> 01:22:49,079
Speaker 4: But I do think you could do, and I think

1942
01:22:49,119 --> 01:22:49,720
that's happened.

1943
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: Statlander's gonna win Hater turns on, whether it's the show

1944
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,479
after or right after the match. I think Hater as

1945
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,880
a heel probably should go down too, because if people

1946
01:22:58,399 --> 01:23:00,720
forget like that's how she started get over the crowd,

1947
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,279
is her being a heel, and then they just flipped

1948
01:23:02,279 --> 01:23:04,279
her because it's like, well, people just enjoy her, right,

1949
01:23:04,399 --> 01:23:06,560
So I just think I Haters a baby face has

1950
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,359
just been kind of flowing around. I think there's too

1951
01:23:09,399 --> 01:23:12,479
many like eccentric characters right now with Mina and Tony

1952
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,359
and Chris and Willow, which we'll talk about. So I'm

1953
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,119
kind of hoping or I just would like the Jamie

1954
01:23:18,239 --> 01:23:20,079
cheats to win and that's how you get the heel turned,

1955
01:23:20,079 --> 01:23:21,560
because I'd love her to get some juice. But I

1956
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,079
think this match is gonna be really, really good. But

1957
01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:26,399
I see Statlander winning it because I feel like Tony's

1958
01:23:26,399 --> 01:23:29,079
been talking about stat Landers like a pillar for a

1959
01:23:29,319 --> 01:23:32,079
w lately of just anytime they're just like, who do

1960
01:23:32,119 --> 01:23:34,119
you see lead in the future. He's like, oh, Chris Statland.

1961
01:23:34,159 --> 01:23:36,680
It's like, well, that doesn't count. She's like she's the present.

1962
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,039
Like I hate when he answers last time, soone asks

1963
01:23:39,079 --> 01:23:40,239
like who do you see is the future of that?

1964
01:23:40,359 --> 01:23:42,680
He's like, well, I think it's like Ousbrey Swerve and uh,

1965
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,079
Chris Statlander. It's like, all right, cool, like Ausbrey, who's

1966
01:23:46,079 --> 01:23:48,199
gonna You're gonna, you know, give the crown to which

1967
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:51,319
I get that's fine, but like stant Lander's already the champ,

1968
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,319
Like I guess you call it the future. But like

1969
01:23:53,359 --> 01:23:54,840
I think people when they ask that question kind of

1970
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,520
asking like, hey, who's wrestling in the dark match on collision?

1971
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,079
Speaker 4: Do you think could be the future.

1972
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: But he always just goes with the Peel the Top

1973
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,920
people right now, so which they are apparently bringing back

1974
01:24:06,399 --> 01:24:09,760
after Dark for a Dark for one night only, so

1975
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:10,760
good job.

1976
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:14,359
Speaker 6: For the car there, And it's just like very it's

1977
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,760
just like one one pretty top star.

1978
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 1: I guess, just like that's all that Dark ever was Dark,

1979
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,000
would always dark, would randomly have like one good like

1980
01:24:23,119 --> 01:24:24,960
top match, and I guess people like that. I guess

1981
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,000
because they did. Like there is stuff where like they

1982
01:24:27,039 --> 01:24:29,079
had a match where it's like Harley Cameron versus Will

1983
01:24:29,079 --> 01:24:31,000
and I and get like on Dark like three years

1984
01:24:31,039 --> 01:24:32,760
ago when Harley was nothing right because the people have

1985
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,239
shown that so like it is like a fun origin story.

1986
01:24:35,279 --> 01:24:36,399
But that's where it's like I don't have.

1987
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 5: Tea, Like there's so many people that you can find,

1988
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,000
like their their aw Dark debut. There's a bunch of

1989
01:24:43,119 --> 01:24:46,960
nic people who wrestle like one match on Dark and stuff.

1990
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,800
I think the big draw for for this Dark like

1991
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,800
is like I think it's like all the male Death

1992
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,479
Riders against a bunch of like UK indie guys.

1993
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course, yeah that'll be fun for that crowd.

1994
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,560
But David, how do you see uh stanlerd and Hater going.

1995
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 3: I think uh Stettlander wins, but it's going to be

1996
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:13,199
the continued slow devolving of her and Hater, and eventually

1997
01:25:13,279 --> 01:25:16,800
you're going to get it going from friendly robbery tell

1998
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,920
all that warfare. Yeah, that's that's going to be the big,

1999
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:21,720
the big battle.

2000
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 4: For a while.

2001
01:25:22,399 --> 01:25:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm down because I also think for me, Hater works

2002
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,000
just very well as a heel. So we'll see that happens.

2003
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,560
And then honestly, we got semi final number one number

2004
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:35,079
two for the the way they put this, semi final

2005
01:25:35,159 --> 01:25:37,319
number one winner versus semi final number two winner, and

2006
01:25:37,399 --> 01:25:38,640
that's Gold league winner.

2007
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 4: Versus Blue league. Oh so we're getting three.

2008
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: I see what it is. Okay, so this is right.

2009
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,439
They're doing the three matches again, two semi finals and

2010
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:47,359
then the finals.

2011
01:25:48,199 --> 01:25:49,199
Speaker 4: Dave, what have you thought.

2012
01:25:49,039 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: About the C two. I think I've of the matches

2013
01:25:52,039 --> 01:25:54,520
that have happened, I think I've watched seventy five percent.

2014
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,720
I've not seen the latest collision, which was also yesterday.

2015
01:25:58,199 --> 01:26:00,159
I've seen about seventy five percent of those. Do you

2016
01:26:00,199 --> 01:26:02,359
think about do you got any standouts right now or anything.

2017
01:26:03,399 --> 01:26:06,159
Speaker 3: I've been loving what they've been doing. With Claudio in there.

2018
01:26:07,319 --> 01:26:11,840
But you can't discount Takesha at anytime. I know how

2019
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,840
much they love Takeshta, and so this would be a

2020
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,279
good time to build up him, continue to build up Okada.

2021
01:26:19,399 --> 01:26:21,119
But man, I've been loving this shime that they've been

2022
01:26:21,159 --> 01:26:21,920
given to Claudio.

2023
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:27,079
Speaker 1: M Yeah. I think for me, Claudio, that's been good stuff.

2024
01:26:27,119 --> 01:26:29,920
I'm interested to see what happens after the fact. I

2025
01:26:30,079 --> 01:26:32,079
had I think my favorite, because I have a ranking

2026
01:26:32,119 --> 01:26:35,920
on drop Kick, I think my favorite was the I

2027
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,279
think it might have been the Okada Fletcher match up

2028
01:26:38,359 --> 01:26:43,640
until this week. Mike Bailey and Fletcher had a phenomenal matchup.

2029
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:47,279
It was crazy good and that's what I was gonna say,

2030
01:26:47,319 --> 01:26:48,840
is the person that also.

2031
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 4: I love that they gave Night that Darby wind.

2032
01:26:51,039 --> 01:26:53,239
Speaker 1: That's what's needed. It sucks crazy we didn't talk about

2033
01:26:53,239 --> 01:26:54,560
was on the air yet crazy that all the shit

2034
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,119
Derby does and just a Coast to Coast taking him out.

2035
01:26:57,159 --> 01:26:59,760
Like I said in the discord, that seth we maybe

2036
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,439
got a banned the Coast to Coast where two top

2037
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,520
stars are going out, just have Shane do it. But uh,

2038
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:06,880
that was big and I like.

2039
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 5: The Coast to Coast where it looks cool, but he

2040
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,039
doesn't touch anyone exactly.

2041
01:27:13,159 --> 01:27:15,039
Speaker 1: That's what you need, right, And I can't remember what

2042
01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:17,000
was the other right when Fletcher got that win, but yeah,

2043
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,000
they gave Bailey the win over Fletcher here and that's

2044
01:27:19,039 --> 01:27:21,359
where night they're giving the showcase, I think with some

2045
01:27:21,359 --> 01:27:24,199
of the bigger moments matches. But Bailey he had a match.

2046
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,640
I think his first round match was against pak which

2047
01:27:27,039 --> 01:27:28,960
was great because the last two minutes of the match

2048
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:33,119
or maybe three, i'll say, the to the finish. Actually

2049
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,760
it was just about who could kick each other hard enough,

2050
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,479
and they did this thing where they're kicking each other,

2051
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,359
and then they were both in the ring and they

2052
01:27:39,399 --> 01:27:42,640
both decided to back up and they want they bounced

2053
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,039
on the ropes and they did like whatever. Drew's like,

2054
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,840
what's his finish again? They claim, well, yeah, they did

2055
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,720
like that. And they were both down and out and

2056
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,000
they're down the rest checking on and everything like that,

2057
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,720
and they were all outside the ring and they both

2058
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,000
see each other from across the ring on the other side,

2059
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,439
and they decided to run around the ring and du

2060
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,600
it again on the outside. It was just great. It

2061
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:03,560
just is like, okay, let's see who could kick each

2062
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,720
other more. It was just such a just I love

2063
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,159
when matches and side like this is gonna.

2064
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:07,359
Speaker 4: Be our gimmick.

2065
01:28:07,359 --> 01:28:09,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna make it that we're using the

2066
01:28:09,239 --> 01:28:10,760
same move who can do better? And pok up the

2067
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,159
wind parks look good too. But Bailey is like and

2068
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,279
I've like, I like Bailey, but I haven't seen much

2069
01:28:15,279 --> 01:28:17,079
of his teenage stuff. I've just heard about him a lot,

2070
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,520
and I liked that triple threat he did with Omega

2071
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,079
and Ricochet, But like, I think his running a he's

2072
01:28:22,119 --> 01:28:24,239
been good, you know, but this tournament I think is

2073
01:28:24,279 --> 01:28:26,680
really doing some stuff from butt him and Fletcher. Yeah,

2074
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:31,239
it was like a work Ray main event level like

2075
01:28:31,399 --> 01:28:32,479
type of pay per view match.

2076
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 3: It was.

2077
01:28:33,039 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: It was outstanding, And so for me, I think Bailey

2078
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,760
is like he he might be coming out of this

2079
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,640
tournament the wrestling star, but I know he is a

2080
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,199
good wrestler. But he's been on some really good stuff.

2081
01:28:43,359 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 6: I don't know, but Bailey. Also, they did Bailey Versus

2082
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:49,000
kind of a Night.

2083
01:28:49,359 --> 01:28:52,279
Speaker 4: Yes last night, right, Bailey? Really, I'm so.

2084
01:28:52,359 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 1: I guess that's probably why they gave a Night that

2085
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,520
big Derby win because Night one lost to Fletcher, which

2086
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,600
was a good match, and then he lost to uh

2087
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,000
or No, did he not lose the Fletcher?

2088
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:00,239
Speaker 3: Sure?

2089
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,359
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I gotta I'm behind because on my

2090
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,840
seat two I thought he did. Yeah, like I said,

2091
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:08,560
I'm my dropping. I'm trying to have them ranks. And

2092
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,359
then at the end of the second remember it. But yeah,

2093
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,720
so it's gonna be interesting. I still think it's gonna

2094
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:17,359
be Takesha and Okada oh Man and Takesha had another

2095
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:20,399
good one too. Shit it was it was on the

2096
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:24,119
second whatever. His second match was heat a really good one.

2097
01:29:24,279 --> 01:29:27,000
But yeah, they're they're having some Oh it was him

2098
01:29:27,039 --> 01:29:29,399
and Roddy, Him and Roddy, because Roddy, I think is

2099
01:29:29,399 --> 01:29:31,439
gonna be the guy gets no wins this tournament. There's

2100
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,960
always one. I think that one year was Jay Leefall.

2101
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:35,720
I think Roddy because I think we all know that

2102
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,039
was supposed to be Kyle Straw or Kyle Riley probably,

2103
01:29:38,079 --> 01:29:40,760
But Roddy and Takesha had this really good match as

2104
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,520
well too, of just just kind of like they're not

2105
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,159
powerhouses but like low Ki, like Roddy's pretty built and

2106
01:29:46,199 --> 01:29:48,159
Takesha is just a big guy. So no, there's been

2107
01:29:48,199 --> 01:29:50,319
some good ones, and I like that there's a lot

2108
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,920
of like that Fletcher, I thought, oh, they can name

2109
01:29:53,039 --> 01:29:54,239
one defeated he loses.

2110
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 4: To Bailey randomly.

2111
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 1: I think they've it is one of the better years

2112
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,920
of the finishes, aren't right now? One hundred percent of

2113
01:30:00,079 --> 01:30:02,560
what's gonna happen, you know? And actually too. Another good

2114
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,680
one was a pack in Okada because they wrestled it

2115
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,880
in a purely heel versus heel typeway, similarly me as

2116
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:09,640
Fletcher and Okada.

2117
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,359
Speaker 4: Then a moment where Ocada.

2118
01:30:12,039 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: Was gonna do so or Fletcher was on the top rope,

2119
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,359
o'cada was down and he pushed the reft in the ropes,

2120
01:30:16,399 --> 01:30:18,399
and then five minutes later Fletcher did the same thing

2121
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,600
of copying him. So I've liked a lot of the

2122
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:23,520
heel versus heel matches because I think that they are

2123
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,319
I like when they try to outchee each other. But okay,

2124
01:30:26,359 --> 01:30:27,920
so if we got to pick the four, who do

2125
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,079
we think the four? Because I I think it's Fletcher, Ocada,

2126
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:35,000
and Taqushta and I don't know who the fourth one's

2127
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,199
gonna be. The get semifinals for World's End. That's where

2128
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:39,600
I'm I'm tough on. I feel like it has to

2129
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,479
be like another baby face if it's those three. But

2130
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,319
unless you guys think it's somebody else, That's why I'm

2131
01:30:43,359 --> 01:30:44,640
throwing it out there. Who do you guys think will

2132
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:46,319
be the top four when we get to world's end?

2133
01:30:47,279 --> 01:30:48,239
Speaker 2: No, I'm the same as you.

2134
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,520
Speaker 1: So who's your fourth though? Because I don't have a

2135
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,720
fourth dead I'm I'm I'm screwed.

2136
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:59,239
Speaker 5: I mean, was like one, either Mox or Claudio would

2137
01:30:59,279 --> 01:31:05,760
make it to the right if you wanted to.

2138
01:31:06,199 --> 01:31:09,560
Speaker 1: It's already starting. It's already you can feel that vibe. Ready,

2139
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,760
I'm ready. You know, sixteen times AW world champion. Let's go.

2140
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:14,880
You know, like, what what a what a story from

2141
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,560
Ox in twenty twenty five, you know, to be the

2142
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,520
most hated man to like now crowds pop and form

2143
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,640
everything like that, and people think he's killing TV. But

2144
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:24,920
because that would be yeah, if you have a caught

2145
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:29,680
up Takesha, Fletcher, and Mosley, technically that is all four heels, right,

2146
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,600
which right, I guess this isn't for a title, so

2147
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,720
doesn't he like it? It's for ATILE, it's not for MG,

2148
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,079
It's not I meant for like fight mgf right, like

2149
01:31:37,159 --> 01:31:39,359
if he's a champion, so right, it is right.

2150
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,560
Speaker 6: Sure your own like they're in your own university.

2151
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,159
Speaker 1: It is yeah, okay, so okay Mosley.

2152
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 3: See I have Claudiokeshta, Fletcher Ocata.

2153
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:55,319
Speaker 4: Okay, who gouda pick just to be different.

2154
01:31:55,119 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you can. I think that's where I'm gonna go.

2155
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,319
I think they're gonna make Bailey the underdog because what

2156
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:04,000
is it. It's gold league winner versus Blue league winners.

2157
01:32:04,039 --> 01:32:06,760
I'm trying to think who he could verse.

2158
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,119
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like, unless you do the gimmick

2159
01:32:10,239 --> 01:32:14,199
of Okada finally just like loses the title, my not

2160
01:32:14,399 --> 01:32:15,920
making the finals.

2161
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I if they do that, you're gonna I'm not

2162
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:21,800
gonna do a full ramp, but like, I'll definitely bitch

2163
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:25,039
him on a bit on the next episode of of

2164
01:32:25,199 --> 01:32:27,319
the Gimmick because like, to me, she's like, have him

2165
01:32:27,399 --> 01:32:29,600
lose it, don't do Like I still think the finals

2166
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,960
should just be Okada Takesha. Takesha gets the big victory

2167
01:32:33,119 --> 01:32:35,039
and then he beats the big tournament winner guy. But

2168
01:32:35,039 --> 01:32:37,880
I'm trying to find I can find every fucking year,

2169
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,880
but this year Google Images is just.

2170
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,199
Speaker 6: Screwing me over, are you looking just for like all

2171
01:32:42,279 --> 01:32:42,840
the people in it?

2172
01:32:43,039 --> 01:32:43,199
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2173
01:32:43,199 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Okay, so in fact, because I'm just trying to find out,

2174
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,560
like what the finals, so if Bailey, because if Bailey

2175
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:53,239
were to get there, so it I have been Mockster Takeshta.

2176
01:32:53,319 --> 01:32:54,720
I'm just trying to see what would be the better

2177
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:58,439
prepairing for the two of them. I feel like if

2178
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:03,279
it's Ocada Mocksley, that's dangerous. I don't know what time

2179
01:33:03,399 --> 01:33:06,000
match I will say, Okada has been Actually he's not

2180
01:33:06,119 --> 01:33:08,159
been sleep in this tournament. He's actually put in the work.

2181
01:33:08,199 --> 01:33:10,399
It's like when it's a tournament, he locks back into

2182
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,199
New Japan side. It's like, oh, it's a tournament, you'd

2183
01:33:12,279 --> 01:33:13,000
tell me, but.

2184
01:33:13,159 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 2: Like tournament mode activated.

2185
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just trying to think who would be better

2186
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,319
because you can't do Ocado. So yeah, honestly, if it

2187
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,840
was the finals, you'd probably if it got to those ones,

2188
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:27,439
you'd have to do Ocada and probably Moxley and then

2189
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,760
takesht and Bailey and then because I think to Keshan,

2190
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,560
Bailey would be tons of fun and then make.

2191
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,560
Speaker 5: Sense especially since their friend, like they're the ones that

2192
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,920
are like friends in the don Kyles family.

2193
01:33:41,119 --> 01:33:45,399
Speaker 4: For some like yeah, right, I guess you and that's

2194
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:45,920
what you could do.

2195
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,359
Speaker 1: Also, right, you could do and Fletcher, Yeah, it's tough

2196
01:33:49,399 --> 01:33:52,039
for me, Like I'm being like, I'm trying to be

2197
01:33:52,119 --> 01:33:54,079
Devil's advocate, but I do really think it's just to

2198
01:33:54,199 --> 01:33:57,000
Kesha Moxley or Claudia. I guess, yeah, it's that's what

2199
01:33:57,039 --> 01:34:00,560
I like. There's I think we just know Daqushada. Yeah,

2200
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,479
I think we just know Toketcha Cato at least are

2201
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:06,119
to those slots. Yeah, I think those are locked, so

2202
01:34:06,199 --> 01:34:09,000
we'll have to see what happens there. But yeah, even Deronto,

2203
01:34:09,119 --> 01:34:11,399
like they gave him a win, you know, like he

2204
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,920
beat Claudia and that that's why I like is Claudio

2205
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,359
gets big wins, right, they make him beat Darby, they

2206
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:18,520
make them beat Boxley, and then he loses to the

2207
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,119
guy that's easily ranked last as term as far as importance.

2208
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,680
But that's why it doesn't hurt Claudio because like, well,

2209
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,880
he'll just beat two main inventors.

2210
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:26,520
Speaker 4: And he can lose to them.

2211
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 5: Makes sense to since since just for the like CMLL

2212
01:34:31,039 --> 01:34:34,000
guy beat the guy with the with the title, since yeah,

2213
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:38,760
and you can match on I'm pretty sure they announced

2214
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:42,880
it for like a CMLL show, like Claude perfect the

2215
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:43,479
title and.

2216
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: Then if Claudia wins, he gets his win back there. Right,

2217
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,640
But again, like why isn't Claudia walking out with that title?

2218
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,439
Bugs me a bunch. I at least saw one show

2219
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:51,840
he didn't.

2220
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:52,239
Speaker 4: There's one.

2221
01:34:52,359 --> 01:34:54,079
Speaker 1: I think the match with Moxley. He didn't, and it

2222
01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:55,520
bugged me same way as.

2223
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:59,119
Speaker 6: Like Joe definitely seen a clip of him focus.

2224
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 1: Maybe once, just the same way as when Joe walked

2225
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,600
out first time match no trio's title insight he had

2226
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:04,119
the next time.

2227
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:05,560
Speaker 4: But it's like these titles.

2228
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,560
Speaker 6: But uh, I can read you guys the card for

2229
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:09,680
this week's Dynamite.

2230
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, what is it?

2231
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 6: And it's a it's a three hour special as.

2232
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 5: Well, because that's always there now with the every time

2233
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,560
it's before a pay per view, since they don't have Collision,

2234
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:19,680
they add the extra.

2235
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 6: Hour to uh to Dynamite.

2236
01:35:22,079 --> 01:35:22,239
Speaker 5: Right.

2237
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:27,359
Speaker 6: There's a Connell classic match you have Fletcher versus pac Oh.

2238
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 1: That's gonna be that's gonna be good because Pawk I

2239
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,640
like the work he's doing. Okay, that's gonna be a

2240
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:31,960
good one.

2241
01:35:32,399 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 5: The another classic match you have Dorada versus Orange Cassidy.

2242
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 3: Hmm.

2243
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: That's a that's an interesting baby face babyface match right there.

2244
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,159
That's gonna be I'm not saying it's gonna be bad.

2245
01:35:44,199 --> 01:35:46,239
I just have to see how that that looks in

2246
01:35:46,319 --> 01:35:46,680
my mind.

2247
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 4: It's a weird parent but okay.

2248
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:52,600
Speaker 6: Then another classic match you have Moxley versus Roddy Strong.

2249
01:35:53,119 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 4: Oh, all good, we get to run back one of

2250
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:56,800
my fair bits.

2251
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:58,399
Speaker 1: I guess it happened this year is when they did

2252
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:01,079
the Big Tag Team and Rod Marina came face to

2253
01:36:01,159 --> 01:36:03,920
face and I wonder, yeah, I wonder if they're gonna

2254
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:04,600
play that back.

2255
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,159
Speaker 5: And Marina has another match on this show, so they

2256
01:36:08,199 --> 01:36:11,039
could say she's not Yeah, and conall classic.

2257
01:36:11,119 --> 01:36:13,319
Speaker 6: If I think if you have someone at ringside you'll

2258
01:36:13,359 --> 01:36:16,359
get like banned, Yeah, so good reason, I fired. I think.

2259
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 4: Okay.

2260
01:36:18,039 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, if she's out there this time,

2261
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:21,960
I actually could see Roddy again the win. But you're right,

2262
01:36:22,079 --> 01:36:23,920
she won't be there, so that's a good reason. So okay,

2263
01:36:24,039 --> 01:36:24,720
but that'll be fun.

2264
01:36:25,279 --> 01:36:28,640
Speaker 5: Then you have a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars

2265
01:36:29,079 --> 01:36:32,680
seven hundred and fifty thousand euro aka one million dollar

2266
01:36:33,079 --> 01:36:36,680
winner take all match between the Elite and the donk

2267
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,560
House family and it's a winner take all match because

2268
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,000
this is the money that the Elite won, but the

2269
01:36:42,119 --> 01:36:43,479
donk House family stole it.

2270
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 6: So now this is the match to win the same

2271
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,119
money they already won. Now I need to win it back.

2272
01:36:48,319 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 4: Bid I hate the money.

2273
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't hate the many matches I hate,

2274
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:53,279
like we're talking about the spamming of them. But on

2275
01:36:53,399 --> 01:36:55,920
that team though, it is Takesha and o'caa, right.

2276
01:36:56,039 --> 01:36:58,239
Speaker 6: It's Takeshta Okada and hetches Sero.

2277
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is gets Kenny in the Bucks.

2278
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,199
Speaker 1: I like all that because you got o'cada that OSSI

2279
01:37:03,279 --> 01:37:05,159
has history with Bucks and Kenny, so we play on that.

2280
01:37:05,239 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 4: You got to catch you Ocada together.

2281
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:11,640
Speaker 1: So absolutely absolutely he's there. But yeah, I like I

2282
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,119
like that pairing, so that that that should be interesting

2283
01:37:14,119 --> 01:37:14,960
to see what o'conda do.

2284
01:37:15,039 --> 01:37:15,279
Speaker 3: Is there.

2285
01:37:15,399 --> 01:37:19,399
Speaker 6: So then you have an eight woman tag team match

2286
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:20,840
of Class.

2287
01:37:22,319 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 1: Special.

2288
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:26,680
Speaker 4: You got three hours.

2289
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with all the top women?

2290
01:37:28,039 --> 01:37:29,760
Put them in the same match for ten minutes?

2291
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:34,279
Speaker 5: Go So you have Mercedes, Athena, Marina and Meghan Vaine

2292
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:39,560
versus the Babes of Wrath and the timeless love bombs.

2293
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:41,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, which we can stop to about there.

2294
01:37:41,199 --> 01:37:41,560
Speaker 4: I was.

2295
01:37:42,199 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 1: I was very happy that they gave Harley and Willow

2296
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,720
to win because I did like, Tony doesn't need like

2297
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,640
a first ever. She's established. But I still didn't think

2298
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:52,760
it was gonna poltry. I think we have Molple episodes

2299
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,119
said like, oh, this is just no matter what, Willow

2300
01:37:55,159 --> 01:37:57,760
and Harley are losing, and they got it. The match

2301
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:00,479
was like, it was fun up until the I can't

2302
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:03,079
remember what the sequence was. It was Harley with somebody,

2303
01:38:03,079 --> 01:38:05,159
I think it was with Mina, and they had like

2304
01:38:05,239 --> 01:38:07,520
two to three like not botches, but just miscues in

2305
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,840
a row, and it just like the momentum just.

2306
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:11,119
Speaker 4: Halted, and it sucked that.

2307
01:38:11,159 --> 01:38:13,520
Speaker 1: I wish they kind of like obviously on TVs they

2308
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:15,520
actually can't do that, but it just sucked that way

2309
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:17,359
because they had like a good thing going and it

2310
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:18,279
just kind of took a turn.

2311
01:38:18,359 --> 01:38:19,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's that's fun.

2312
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 1: I guess. There were reports that Tony's like looking for

2313
01:38:22,079 --> 01:38:25,000
more women because he wants to put the tag team

2314
01:38:25,079 --> 01:38:25,880
secret like the.

2315
01:38:27,399 --> 01:38:29,319
Speaker 4: League like whatever the division up there.

2316
01:38:29,359 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like I have a

2317
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:32,319
hard time believe that when you're just doing the eight

2318
01:38:32,399 --> 01:38:35,039
women tags and stuff. So I hope that happens, but

2319
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:36,439
I'm happy they have to win.

2320
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:41,079
Speaker 5: I don't really know what Mercedes is doing next, because

2321
01:38:41,319 --> 01:38:43,479
what I thought they were gonna do is like like

2322
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,720
Willow and Harley were gonna win, and then you finally

2323
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:48,920
do like Willow.

2324
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,119
Speaker 6: And Mercedes, and that's how you continue a storyline.

2325
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 5: Well, then I don't really know what Mercedes is doing

2326
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:58,800
unless you just get like the classic Mercedes of she gets.

2327
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,199
Speaker 6: A random challenger like one week before the show, and

2328
01:39:01,359 --> 01:39:01,760
that's her.

2329
01:39:02,079 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 2: Probably.

2330
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 1: I was surprised on the show last night for rep

2331
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,960
Pro apparently she retained that title.

2332
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,359
Speaker 5: I thought she was going to lose they start they

2333
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,439
apparently on the show they like to make people think

2334
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:15,000
she was She put like all her British titles on

2335
01:39:15,119 --> 01:39:17,920
the line, like right before the match, and then she

2336
01:39:18,079 --> 01:39:21,159
still retained, so they would have been for like four titles.

2337
01:39:21,399 --> 01:39:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that kind of spoils it then, So they were

2338
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:27,319
surprised by Willow and Harley getting the win there first

2339
01:39:27,359 --> 01:39:29,239
ever aw Women Tag team champions.

2340
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 3: I thought that they would go with the timeless love bombs,

2341
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:37,920
but I'm I'm happily surprised that they went with Willow.

2342
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 2: I think she deserves it. I really like Willow.

2343
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 3: I know TK really liked Swallow. So having them go

2344
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:47,479
for a nice little run for a while with that

2345
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:50,239
before turning it over to somebody else will be just

2346
01:39:50,359 --> 01:39:50,920
fun for them.

2347
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:53,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, what else is left there?

2348
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 6: Okay?

2349
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 5: Then you have for the aw world tag teach Imian Chiefs.

2350
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,279
You have f t R versus the Bang Pang Gang.

2351
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is like a clobbled what it's like, Juice

2352
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:08,119
and one of the guns.

2353
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:10,119
Speaker 6: Right, Juice and yeah, Juice and one of the guests.

2354
01:40:10,399 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, because because that's the whole thing, Like I forget,

2355
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,520
which I think Austin Gunn is the one who got injured.

2356
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 6: They got injured return match like right away?

2357
01:40:20,239 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah right, damn that sucks.

2358
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:26,319
Speaker 5: And then you have the Diamond Ring Battle Royal and

2359
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:29,359
then the contract signing, and I assume they'll probly be

2360
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:31,279
one or two more matches on the show.

2361
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,600
Speaker 1: I wonder the contract signing. I feel like that's where

2362
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:39,800
we get MGF music, right, yeah, event that's the return.

2363
01:40:40,399 --> 01:40:42,640
Speaker 6: They all will be the main event. It'll be like

2364
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:44,199
the Dynamite Man.

2365
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:46,399
Speaker 1: It'll be the Yeah, it'll be the main event of Dynamite. Yeah,

2366
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:47,079
that the top coup.

2367
01:40:47,159 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be the all sign yeah yeah, and then.

2368
01:40:51,159 --> 01:40:54,239
Speaker 5: Maybe I feel like I feel like, oh you know what,

2369
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,239
that will be the main event of Dynamite, and then

2370
01:40:57,319 --> 01:40:59,119
they'll do like the diamond.

2371
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 6: Ring maybe on like the collision part of the show. Yeah,

2372
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:05,359
let's just like and keep people watching. Whats not like

2373
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:08,479
as important as the other matches.

2374
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2375
01:41:09,159 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 5: Plus Mjf's there, so it's like, okay, he'll he'll defend

2376
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:13,520
it against whoever wins this.

2377
01:41:14,239 --> 01:41:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd be watching from afar on commentary or something.

2378
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:20,520
So yeah, we'll see, we'll talk about that in the future.

2379
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:22,439
And then yeah, like I said, we will decide when

2380
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:24,279
the next show is because obviously the twenty seventh is that,

2381
01:41:24,359 --> 01:41:26,600
but we'll wait till closer because the holiday, so show

2382
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:28,520
will be, like I said, either last week December or

2383
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,319
first week of January, and then probably the show after that,

2384
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,439
we'll do our kind of year in awards. We'll everything

2385
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,079
go out and then we'll do our year in awards,

2386
01:41:35,119 --> 01:41:37,600
and then we'll by the time then be doing Rumble

2387
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:39,960
predictions and we're back in the many season already. Boys,

2388
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:41,479
It's like it's not even that far away. It's a

2389
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:43,199
couple months and we're already back there, and then we're

2390
01:41:43,199 --> 01:41:45,359
gonna be doing our draft shake up and then we're

2391
01:41:45,359 --> 01:41:46,399
gonna be redrafting.

2392
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, the next few months we'll be busy.

2393
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe twenty six GM.

2394
01:41:52,279 --> 01:41:54,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very curious to see. Yeah, I'm curious see

2395
01:41:54,359 --> 01:41:57,279
what changes they do or if they don't. I have

2396
01:41:57,399 --> 01:41:59,159
a theory that they might not do too many changes

2397
01:41:59,199 --> 01:42:02,319
because they beached up. Suret the online, but I feel like.

2398
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 5: We're probably just gonna get like, well, my thing has been,

2399
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:08,760
we're probably getting like Triple A and all the brands

2400
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:11,680
and stuff like that. It's like, I mean, because that's

2401
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:13,560
like it's not like TNA where it's apparntship like they

2402
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:17,159
literally own Triple as true, like they have c W.

2403
01:42:17,319 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 6: And w c W and they're like, I feel like

2404
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:21,600
you're gonna get Triple A as like a brand.

2405
01:42:22,239 --> 01:42:25,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, jam No, that's true. Yeah, you get fucking iguana

2406
01:42:25,199 --> 01:42:27,800
in there everything like that. So yeah, so yeah, lots

2407
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:29,720
of stuff is gonna be happening. We're not gonna have

2408
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:31,960
a lack of content. So yeah, we'll be back at

2409
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,720
some point, uh in that timeline, and I promise you

2410
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:37,239
it'll not be boring. Thanks for listening, but