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Speaker 1: It's impossible to deep dive Hunters Washington and its importance
Speaker 1: to keys and as crimes without further exploring the keys family,
Speaker 1: the Christian Identity movement, and Keys's childhood girlfriend Annie. Let's
Speaker 1: begin with the Christian identity movement as a whole and
Speaker 1: how and when the Keys family became involved. You may
Speaker 1: recall all the way back in season one, Episode five,
Speaker 1: I briefly examined some of the tenets of the Christian
Speaker 1: identity and the two Callville churches that the Keys family
Speaker 1: were members of during their time there, the Ark and
Speaker 1: the Christian Israel Covenant Church. In this episode, will be
Speaker 1: taking a look at the histories of these churches and
Speaker 1: their contemporaries and how multiple factions of the same teachings
Speaker 1: coalesced in Stephens County, Washington, and shaped how the Keys
Speaker 1: family came to be, who they were and where they were.
Speaker 1: According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Christian identity
Speaker 1: principles started to become a more widespread movement around the
Speaker 1: early nineteen fifties when klu Kluck's clan organizer Wesley Smith
Speaker 1: founded the Church of Jesus Christ Christian in Lancaster, California.
Speaker 1: The church was founded largely in response to the Civil
Speaker 1: Rights era. According to the Anti Defamation League, they believe
Speaker 1: that whites of European descent can be traced back to
Speaker 1: the Lost Tribes of Israel. Many consider Jews to be
Speaker 1: the Satanic offspring of Eve and the Serpent, while non
Speaker 1: whites are mud peoples created before Adam and Eve. Almost immediately,
Speaker 1: the Church of Jesus Christ Christian had ties to racially
Speaker 1: motivated terrorism. In the nineteen sixties, Wesley Smith's right hand man,
Speaker 1: William Potter Gale, recruited Aryan Nations founder Richard Gurrant Butler,
Speaker 1: and Gale was suspected to have been involved in multiple
Speaker 1: bombings of African American churches in Alabama. By the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1: The church inspired other religious leaders to preach its abhorrent beliefs,
Speaker 1: including street minister Peter Peters. In addition to racism and
Speaker 1: anti Semitism, Peters believed gay people should be exterminated. He
Speaker 1: took those beliefs and his Church of Jesus Christ Christian
Speaker 1: tenets to the Laporte Church of Christ in Colorado, where
Speaker 1: he became pastor in nineteen seventy seven. In short order,
Speaker 1: that church transitioned from a more traditional Christian ministry to
Speaker 1: one of Christian identity, and despite losing the majority of
Speaker 1: its parishioners. Peters rebuilt Peter's worked to build the congregation
Speaker 1: by hosting a radio show largely airing in rural areas
Speaker 1: of Texas, California, Nebraska, New Mexico, and Utah and touring
Speaker 1: with road shows. And those road shows would take him
Speaker 1: to Torrance, California, where both Heidi and Jeff Keys and Ray,
Speaker 1: eventual owner of the Hunter's Farmhouse, were living at the time.
Speaker 1: Due to his extensive background in schooling and farming, agriculture
Speaker 1: and agroeconomics, Peters used the farm crisis of the nineteen
Speaker 1: eighties to reach vulnerable farmers and rural workers who were
Speaker 1: seeking both leadership and advocacy, and so by supporting a
Speaker 1: vulnerable and terrified population, he was able to manipulate and
Speaker 1: eventually utilize them to spread his ministry of hate. Peters
Speaker 1: toured specifically southern California, Utah, Colorado, Idaho, and eventually Washington.
Speaker 1: And while this may seem like a history lesson in
Speaker 1: fucked up Christianity, I promise this is all going to
Speaker 1: converge in some very familiar places. While Pete Peters was
Speaker 1: spreading hate up and down the West Coast, former Baptist
Speaker 1: and excommunicated Mormon art Bullah was self appointing himself a
Speaker 1: leader of the fundamentalist Mormons in northwest Utah, the religion
Speaker 1: that Israel Keys was born into. Some of Bullah's more
Speaker 1: controversial beliefs included plural marriage, that Adam of Adam and
Speaker 1: Eve was actually a reincarnated deity with multiple wives, that
Speaker 1: black people could never comprehend nor preach the spiritual truths
Speaker 1: of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, and that he himself
Speaker 1: was a prophet of God. Like Peters, Bullah was also
Speaker 1: devoutly homophobic. Bulla's sister Anne would marry a man named
Speaker 1: Barry Byrd around this time, and together they founded the
Speaker 1: Marble Fellowship Community Church in the ghost town of Marble, Washington,
Speaker 1: the town immediately north of Calville. The Marble Scripture was
Speaker 1: largely inspired by and interpreted from, that of Pete Peters
Speaker 1: and Christian Identity. In fact, Peters frequently spoke at the church.
Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty eight, Peters, Bird and Brad Bullaugh, Art
Speaker 1: an Anne's older brother, banded together and wrote The Remnant Resolves,
Speaker 1: the Christian Identity manifesto later used by Clive and Amen
Speaker 1: and Ryan Bundy. In the Bundyville Saga. I highly recommend
Speaker 1: the Oregon Public Broadcasting podcast called Bundyville The Remnant to
Speaker 1: learn more about them. Clive and Bundy identified as both
Speaker 1: a sovereign citizen and a member of the Church of
Speaker 1: Latter day Saints aka Mormonism. As it relates to all
Speaker 1: of this, the Bundies are well known for their confrontation
Speaker 1: with the BLM, that's the Bureau of Land Management, which
Speaker 1: led to an armed stone and off. So whether you're
Speaker 1: with Black Lives Matter or the Bureau of Land Management,
Speaker 1: these people hate you. And then of course there's the Ark,
Speaker 1: the church the Keys family and the Keyhole family were
Speaker 1: part of while living in Callville. The Ark, too, was
Speaker 1: based on Christian identity in the ministries of Pete Peters,
Speaker 1: who also occasionally spoke at the Ark. Pete Peters would
Speaker 1: go on to be involved in the stand off at
Speaker 1: Ruby Ridge and lead the subsequent Rocky Mountain Rendezvous in
Speaker 1: Estes Park, Colorado. He also had ties to Timothy McVeigh
Speaker 1: and Terry Nichols, and look, I could do a whole
Speaker 1: seven season podcast on just all of this, but for
Speaker 1: the sake of Israel, Keys and Hunters Washington that all
Speaker 1: boils down to the basic tenants spread across these groups,
Speaker 1: their practiced and alleged terrorism, their dispute with land management
Speaker 1: and the federal government, their targeted hatred, and their various followers,
Speaker 1: who all seemed to coalesce in Stephens County, Washington, where Hunters, Marble,
Speaker 1: and Calville are right around the same time. All this
Speaker 1: is to say, both the Keys family and the Hunter's
Speaker 1: farm house were surrounded by folks who held themselves separate
Speaker 1: from and often above the law. They were anti government,
Speaker 1: and they were prone to take to both terrorism and
Speaker 1: violence to stand their ground and enforce their ideas. In
Speaker 1: many of these Eastern Washington hate groups we found tended
Speaker 1: to be quite incestuous figuratively not literally, As best we
Speaker 1: can tell. Here's how these organizations connect to the people
Speaker 1: in Israel Keys and his family's lives. Listeners will best
Speaker 1: know Pete Peters as both the man who presided over
Speaker 1: Israel's childhood girlfriend Annie's mother's marriage, but he also wrote
Speaker 1: the booklet found in the Constable cabin titled Death Penalty
Speaker 1: for Homosexuals is prescribed in the Bible, likely one of
Speaker 1: Heidi's souvenirs from her inspired time in Callville. Chevy and
Speaker 1: Shane Keyhoe attended the Ark prior to moving on to terrorism, bombings,
Speaker 1: bank robberies and murder, and Heidi keys moved to Richmond,
Speaker 1: Utah to become a fundamentalist Mormon, before leaving the world
Speaker 1: of art Bulah for his sister's teachings at the Marble
Speaker 1: and then the Ark. As I mentioned in episode five
Speaker 1: of this season, the oldest Key's child married into a
Speaker 1: Christian identity family and Hunters, a family who were friends
Speaker 1: with the owner of the Hunter's farmhouse and remain friends
Speaker 1: with Heidi Keys. Keyes's sister's brother in law also had
Speaker 1: a daughter who married into a family with strong ties
Speaker 1: to both the key Hoose and Annie's family. In fact,
Speaker 1: Annie now lives in their old home in Missouri. More
Speaker 1: on that in a minute, but first let's discuss pipe bombs.
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Speaker 2: Like guns were a big always a big hobby.
Speaker 3: Finding explosives and stuff so explosive? Did you make bombs?
Speaker 4: Nothing too exciting?
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I would tinker around.
Speaker 4: I'm mostly just designing stuff.
Speaker 5: I never say where.
Speaker 3: Do you go to blow that up?
Speaker 4: Then we'll do that in the backyard. Lots of places
Speaker 4: in the.
Speaker 3: Bay they go out to the valley again. Yeah, no, I.
Speaker 4: Got I gave all, like.
Speaker 2: Most of my bomb making stuff away far.
Speaker 3: Is it black powder based stuff or did you get.
Speaker 2: Into it now or less?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Mostly black powder?
Speaker 6: Uh? And when you messed around with that stuff was
Speaker 6: it were you using it in conjunction with some type
Speaker 6: of crime or were you just sometimes.
Speaker 3: But not usually?
Speaker 2: I I discovered power tools, uh huh, effective and explosives.
Speaker 3: And a lot quieter.
Speaker 2: Were you preaching with explosives?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: A couple times I was.
Speaker 4: I started doing that.
Speaker 6: When I was.
Speaker 3: I was like fourteen.
Speaker 2: The first I'd ever really blew a first time I
Speaker 2: blew a lock with a pipe bomb when I was.
Speaker 4: About fourteen, like to put a shad or garage or
Speaker 4: something that was a.
Speaker 2: It was a four service gate orything like.
Speaker 6: So this is when you were out in Coalville, and
Speaker 6: that's where you would have been living at the time, right,
Speaker 6: was it hard not to get caught doing that stuff?
Speaker 6: Given and you didn't have any transportation to get away?
Speaker 6: I mean, were you must have been doing it in nearby?
Speaker 3: I had a motorcycle. Oh okay, I had a couple
Speaker 3: of motorcycles. Now that I was the other stuff.
Speaker 2: Before I got my motorcycle, I would just be walking
Speaker 2: around in the woods.
Speaker 4: I would hike for miles.
Speaker 1: I knew, I agreed every.
Speaker 3: Inch of that area.
Speaker 1: It was in Calville where Keys and the Keeho brothers,
Speaker 1: who were as close of friends as Israel could be
Speaker 1: with anyone per Scott, began experimenting with pipe bombs, and,
Speaker 1: as Scott described, Keys would use them to explode bucket
Speaker 1: sized craters into the ground and open force service gates,
Speaker 1: which Keys confessed to doing at least once in the
Speaker 1: commission of a crime, and you'll recall there were pipe
Speaker 1: bomb making supplies found at his constable cabin. In addition
Speaker 1: to this, you may also recall that Keys was listed
Speaker 1: as a terrorist, which could be in relation to a
Speaker 1: series of bombings in Moses Lake, just three hours south
Speaker 1: of Calville, where Tammy's son James's father lived in August
Speaker 1: two thousand eight. Both bombs were pipe bombs, one of
Speaker 1: which was attached to a police scanner. Two Moses Lake
Speaker 1: area men died in the bombings, William Walker, an auto
Speaker 1: shop owner, and Javier A Dame, who police described as
Speaker 1: being linked to local drug trade. Local investigators couldn't connect
Speaker 1: the two men, who each found the bombs on their
Speaker 1: respective doorsteps. Keys can't be placed anywhere on August second
Speaker 1: or third, when the bombings took place. We've been looking
Speaker 1: into possible connections between these bombings and Keys or any
Speaker 1: of his known associates from Calville for several years now,
Speaker 1: and were continuing that investigation. But it's impossible not to
Speaker 1: at least bring it up when discussing Keys's history with
Speaker 1: pipe bombs, specifically in eastern Washington. Also knowing that in
Speaker 1: many ways Keys followed in the Keyhoe brothers footsteps, bank robberies, bombings, murders.
Speaker 1: The Keyhoe Brothers also ended up in Arkansas, which we'll
Speaker 1: get into in just a few minutes. But all of
Speaker 1: this is to say that despite what Keys told the FBI,
Speaker 1: he did have ties and maintained those ties with people
Speaker 1: in eastern Washington, and the Hunter's Farmhouse would be the
Speaker 1: perfect place for Keys to commit a crime during its
Speaker 1: period of vacancy. Its located and an incredibly isolated area
Speaker 1: and had been owned by anti government standard ground followers
Speaker 1: of Christian identity who had animosity toward the Bureau of
Speaker 1: Land Management who owned the adjacent lands. If the BLM
Speaker 1: or FBI overplayed their hand there, there would almost certainly
Speaker 1: be a standoff. The farmhouse was completely surrounded by federal
Speaker 1: and tribal land. Because Kisa's sister lived in the area,
Speaker 1: it was a place he could return to over and
Speaker 1: over again without suspicion, and the former and current owners
Speaker 1: as of two thousand and five, were at minimum acquaintances
Speaker 1: with the Keys extended family. And then there's the weird
Speaker 1: timing and Annie. The FBI believe and I agree, that
Speaker 1: Keys committed some crime, likely a murder, on this property
Speaker 1: on April second of two thousand and five, Annie's first
Speaker 1: wedding anniversary. As I mentioned earlier, Annie would eventually leave
Speaker 1: the area for Missouri, where she moved into a home
Speaker 1: owned by several of the key Hose and Keys's former associates.
Speaker 1: That home is just eighty miles north of where Name
Speaker 1: Is forty five. Missing person Kara Kopetski, disappeared in two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, a case that has since been solved
Speaker 1: and has no ties to Keys. For more information on
Speaker 1: Kara's case, check out Our Name Is forty five episode
Speaker 1: about it. In fact, Annie lived just off Route seventy one,
Speaker 1: where there are multiple sightings of Keys in Missouri and
Speaker 1: Arkansas between two thousand and five and two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1: The other Missouri Name Is forty five case is that
Speaker 1: of Bianca Noel Piper, who disappeared on March tenth of
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, not far from Saint Louis on
Speaker 1: the other side of the state. Again, we don't suspect
Speaker 1: Keys and Bianca's disappearance. However, all of Keyes's activity known
Speaker 1: and suspected in Missouri occurs between two thousand and five
Speaker 1: and two thousand and seven. Annie moved there in late
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. I've reached out to Annie and
Speaker 1: have not heard back as of this recording.
Speaker 4: Computers.
Speaker 7: You mentioned when computers first cannot start doing searches and
Speaker 7: looked just wanted to see what was up with the
Speaker 7: military guys. When you would have talked before with us
Speaker 7: about there were a couple times that you would go
Speaker 7: on your computer and do a search just to see
Speaker 7: if a body even found or I don't know, arsenal bank,
Speaker 7: rubber or whatever it is.
Speaker 4: When you were doing it, how would you.
Speaker 3: How would you do that?
Speaker 4: I mean, did you know names of everybody?
Speaker 7: Or would you do just no search a town, or
Speaker 7: how would you do it?
Speaker 6: I was with the.
Speaker 2: Exception of the computer that you guys got, I generally
Speaker 2: wouldn't do it on the home computers. I had another
Speaker 2: computer that I did use for a while, but for
Speaker 2: the most part it was a computer that I was
Speaker 2: planning on having around for a while. I would never
Speaker 2: do searches on it. Searches I did do were usually
Speaker 2: pretty generic. I would type in an area or a
Speaker 2: newspaper of an area and type in a keyword. I
Speaker 2: would never type in a specific.
Speaker 4: Name, the name of the news paper from the area,
Speaker 4: like if.
Speaker 2: I would do right, So, yeah, I would do a
Speaker 2: search of news from an area I guess, and then
Speaker 2: pull up either a newspaper or news channel online news,
Speaker 2: type in a key word of something, and just scroll
Speaker 2: down the different stories so I found them when I
Speaker 2: was looking for.
Speaker 4: If I was doing it from an.
Speaker 2: Anonymous computer like an airport or a library or something
Speaker 2: that I would do, I would just type in what
Speaker 2: I wanted.
Speaker 3: Right away, bring it up.
Speaker 4: Did you know the names? Did you remember the names
Speaker 4: of most of the people?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, on the major things.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: in Hunters, Washington, Well, if you agree with the FBI,
Speaker 1: he likely abducted and murdered the male female Washington couple.
Speaker 1: Keys told the FBI that this specific double murder occurred
Speaker 1: between his release from the army and the summer of
Speaker 1: two thousand and one and his purchase of the boat
Speaker 1: on or around April ninth of two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: one week after his time in Eastern Washington and Annie's
Speaker 1: wedding anniversary. And there are some very good reasons to
Speaker 1: suspect that's when the double murder did occur. Keyes liked
Speaker 1: to play with semantics, and it's literally right before he
Speaker 1: bought the boat. But when pressed, Halla told me they
Speaker 1: believed this was the time and place of the double murder,
Speaker 1: mostly because it matched the landscape that Keys wrote about
Speaker 1: in his letter to his brothers. Detailing that murder. Specifically,
Speaker 1: he mentioned pine needles on the ground, a valley below,
Speaker 1: and hearing passing cars. But here's the thing, that could
Speaker 1: also be most of Oregon, most of Idaho, most of
Speaker 1: the states surrounding Washington. Because Keys's conversations around the male
Speaker 1: female couple and Ellensburg and Eastern Washington are entirely separate.
Speaker 1: He never indicates that those two events are one and
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 3: So the thing about Washington's little a little simpler from
Speaker 3: his perspective. There's only two federal districts there, Eastern and Western.
Speaker 3: So Eastern is more like the Goma Yakima. Western is Seattle, right,
Speaker 3: and that's good enough line. It's like it's Spokan and
Speaker 3: then there's Seattle to Goma. It's in the Western, right.
Speaker 3: And I think he'd like to be in a position
Speaker 3: to sort of just chat very briefly with one of
Speaker 3: those criminal chiefs, if not both, if he needs to
Speaker 3: to sort of lay the foundation.
Speaker 4: Well, the problem I was talking about anything related to Washington.
Speaker 2: Is not playing ball with the right people, because those
Speaker 2: I'm almost positive are not going to be federal case.
Speaker 3: They're not federal ca Well, why do you think that
Speaker 3: I think Kevin explains you like different stuff that Okay, well,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Kevin explained to you that the
Speaker 3: jurisdictions that we can exercise is pretty expansive, especially if
Speaker 3: it's part of right. I understand that.
Speaker 2: But again, we're this is gonna be hard to talk
Speaker 2: about without getting into stuff we're not supposed to talk about.
Speaker 4: But uh, depending on things, you know, the way things
Speaker 4: pan out, you know, the things we've.
Speaker 2: Already talked about, then I may need those details of.
Speaker 4: The Washington case.
Speaker 3: Is that.
Speaker 4: That I would be better served to wait, you know,
Speaker 4: to if that's where the route.
Speaker 7: I have to go.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you know what I mean, it's.
Speaker 3: I think I do it.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure, and I know we talked a little
Speaker 8: bit about it because yeah, because there's a big difference
Speaker 8: between state and federal it seems and it seems like
Speaker 8: Washington might be a state that.
Speaker 3: But that's something that we can sort of it's not
Speaker 3: working on in the background, just so you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not asking you you know here and now today,
Speaker 3: but that's something that usually does require cooperation between even
Speaker 3: the federal districts, even if there's state things.
Speaker 4: So you're saying there's two dicks. I'm sorry to districts
Speaker 4: and federal districts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's two federal districts that we probably just
Speaker 3: sort of broached with it. One and in Spokane and
Speaker 3: Yakima are the main offices in the one, and then
Speaker 3: Seattle and Tacoma or the Western district. So that's just
Speaker 3: the dividing line. I don't know exactly where it is,
Speaker 3: but pretty much, you know, Seattle and Tacoma is where
Speaker 3: most of the crimes are everything.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I think that's that's Ellensburg is h Ellensburg
Speaker 2: is wester.
Speaker 3: Ellensburg sort of outside of Yack.
Speaker 4: You're gonna need both districts.
Speaker 1: When you look at missing pairs on or around the
Speaker 1: weekend Keys was in both Hunters and Ellensburg. There are
Speaker 1: none and we'll get more into this in the next
Speaker 1: few episodes, but we've come to accept that Keys's use
Speaker 1: of the term couple doesn't necessarily mean two people who
Speaker 1: knew each other. Keys could have created a couple out
Speaker 1: of two strangers. And this idea didn't come out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: It actually came out of our favorite piece of reading material, Intensity.
Speaker 1: In Intensity, serial Killer, Edgeler Vess brings together two victims
Speaker 1: to maximize fear. So if the male female couple was
Speaker 1: that weekend or any weekend surrounding it, and it was
Speaker 1: in eastern Washington, it would almost certainly have to be
Speaker 1: a created couple. But even that, we haven't been able
Speaker 1: to find two people who disappeared from Washington or a
Speaker 1: surrounding state within twenty four hours of one another over
Speaker 1: the weekend of April second, two thousand and five, or
Speaker 1: any weekend within six months surrounding that date. The closest
Speaker 1: we've come are Zachary Weston and Sally Joe Stromberg, who
Speaker 1: are both marked as missing as of August twelfth, two
Speaker 1: thousand and five, four months after the Hunter's weekend, and
Speaker 1: despite the timing discrepancy, this was a lead we were
Speaker 1: taking very seriously until Sally Joe's file showed up and
Speaker 1: two things became very clear. One, she had been seen
Speaker 1: by several people, including her own daughter, well after August twelfth,
Speaker 1: and two there were two very good suspects in her disappearance.
Speaker 1: So where does this all leave us? In my opinion,
Speaker 1: there was a victim in eastern Washington over the weekend
Speaker 1: of April second, two thousand and five, but that victim
Speaker 1: was very unlikely the male female couple, and I do
Speaker 1: believe there is importance to that date in relation to
Speaker 1: Keys's ex fiancee Annie. Also, the male female couple aren't
Speaker 1: necessarily from Washington State. They could be anywhere from High
Speaker 1: Desert or Pine Needle Country. And that brings us back
Speaker 1: to Cami and Eugene, but not only Cami and Eugene.
Speaker 1: And then, of course, one last enduring question for now,
Speaker 1: what the hell happened in Hunter's Washington on April second
Speaker 1: of two thousand and five?
Speaker 2: Is it right?
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