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quarterback question to Shay and it was actually, hey, look
at you, big jay journalism.
Speaker 2: It's not a big deal, guys, because I was about
to ask him the same question and you stole my question.
Speaker 3: That doesn't happen very often. You were gonna ask a
quarterback question. I was because you're a quarterback literally.
Speaker 2: Right here in theory. So that's a good point.
Speaker 3: So I was looking at the class, and we've talked
about it before, like this class for LSU doesn't have
a quarterback, and then like your quarterback situation obviously looks
pretty bare yep here at the moment, and Old Miss
did have one committed to them, So I didn't know
how much you know, Langiffin wanted that quarterback, if that
quarterback is going to flip from Ole Miss to LSU,
if you're going to try to get another one, So
you know, Shae Dixon didn't mention there's a South Carolina
commitment that they would be interested in adding, and so
I know you're I do not, Dworth. I do not
think your quarter Yes, I do not think that your
quarterback next year is on this roster right now.
Speaker 2: I just don't think that's the case.
Speaker 3: I think we could look at the track record of
of Elade Kiffin and he will better hope.
Speaker 2: That it's not on the roster. I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3: With you, and he uh, look, he'll bring in multiple
quarterbacks in the portal. He has certainly done that before.
But what are your thoughts on needing to get a
quarterback in this class.
Speaker 4: I always think you need to get a quarterback. Now
I don't think it's as necessary as it once was.
Certainly with the transfer portal, Lane Kiffin has proven to
be a master.
Speaker 3: What did what did Jay say? He found this turn
it out on Twitter? Yeah, well, I don't know the story.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: One of the coaches saw his highlights like on Twitter
and they were like, he was going to go somewhere
else at the FBS level. Gosh, I'm trying to remember
the story exactly how I went down. But then Ole
Miss saw him. They're like, no, no, he's coming Old
Miss actually right. Yeah, so he found them on Twitter.
So the quarterback for that Lane found and bratol Miss,
who's leading them into the playoffs, was the quarterback for
Farris State University of the year before. And I remember
when we played them looking up the stats and it
wasn't necessarily like the most impressive outlandish stats either.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it just kind of goes to show you what
this Lane Kiven offense has the potential to do. And
like Shaye mentioned, he's like, well do you think I
could I hit pretty good on him?
Speaker 2: And multiple other people in the transfer portal before.
Speaker 4: You don't think I can do it at LSU with
the resources and that logo and that those three letters
across the chest.
Speaker 2: So we should all be excited.
Speaker 4: So I think it's a really obvious statement that the
quarterback for next year is not on this. But as
far as picking or signing high school guys like you
always want, I think you always have to have a
comfortability with your quarterback room.
Speaker 2: You have to have talent there.
Speaker 4: You have to have young guys, you want all ages,
you want older guys, you want younger guys, you want
guys learning, you want guys teaching. That's kind of what
a healthy quarterback room is now in this world of
the nil Like, you don't always get that deep quarterback room,
especially at bigger schools, right because most guys that go
there are very highly touted, highly ranked, and if they're
not playing, they're gonna go seek other opportunities, which I
think everybody can understand that. Yeah, so you don't like
a lot of times, a lot of these big time
schools and blue blood schools are so dependent on their
starting quarterback being healthy because everything kind of revolves around that.
Because there's a bigger drop off at the quarterback position
than there is anywhere else on the football field. Right,
So it's important, at least from a talent perspective to
have young guys there, even if they're ready or not
ready to play. You can have them and taylor a
game plan around them if you need them in an emergency.
And then, of course, I mean in a perfect situation,
you groom a kid for a couple of years and
let him be the starter for a couple of years,
and then while he starts, he grooms another guy. Like
that's that's the ideal situation. And the more quarterbacks, especially
highly ranked quarterbacks, young quarterbacks, you get in there in
the room, the better chance you have on hitting. You're
not gonna hit on every single person, right, And a
guy might be better at a different college or a
different system than he is at our system.
Speaker 2: Like, you just never really know how that's going to
play out. You're guessing a lot.
Speaker 4: You're watching these kids play against other high school kids
that will never put pads on again.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: It's it's one of these things that's so hard. It's
so hard to nationally rank, you know, recruits and all
this and that. So yeah, I think it's important to
have people. But with the tight turnaround, with this the
whole length thing, I'm not worried about the quarterback position.
I'm not going to say if we don't sign somebody,
I'm worried. I'm with you because it's just not because
of the transfer portal enough. This was five years ago. Yeah,
you're probably thinking a little bit differently.
Speaker 3: But because of the portal, and because of who it
is in the portal and shout out to who I
knew it was a small school. I wanted to say,
Temple is so bad, and Hunt confirmed it it is Temple.
Speaker 2: That it was Temple where Champus was going to.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so that that that Actually, that's another point
in the favor. I think of the evaluation because nobody
else saw it.
Speaker 2: He was going to Temple yep, and they're like, hold up, no,
I think, actually we need him in Oxford, and you
go and.
Speaker 3: You get that guy, so shout out. I appreciate that, Hunt,
But but I think because it's another faith though, like
they're gonna be able to find their quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think because of the lane element, I don't think it.
I think it releaves a lot of stress from that
that room. Now, are you gonna be able to go
find two or two quarterbacks? I don't think so. I
doubt it. Like I don't know why too coveted quarterbacks
would come at the same time. But I mean, what,
what was it a couple of years ago where he
got like three transferred quarterbacks to come to Old Miss.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kid, that was that l Shua Howard. Yeah, Like
there was three guys. You got Sanders who was the
Oklahoma State starting quarterback.
Speaker 4: That was the wildest situation, Like I just thought of
I thought about it again, like right the second, like
while we're talking, like they got three guys, and I'm like,
what is this guy's doing?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 4: Why would they go there right now? Don't they see
everybody else going there as well? Yeah, it's a yeah,
it's not certainly not a big pressure point for me
if we don't sign, but I would like to sign somebody.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: I know next year is a big class.
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly a big quarterback crop, especially here in Louisiana.
Speaker 7: So quarterback just signed, but he signed as a corner.
Does Ellis is a quarterback but a lot of schools
were recruiting him as a quarterback, But.
Speaker 2: Raymond.
Speaker 7: He is the one that recruited him as a cornerback
to LSU. He threw for twighty nine yards last season
right thirty one touchdowns, seven interceptions.
Speaker 4: If I give you a dollar, he's a corner. Yeah,
you can keep most of the change, Can you finish it?
All I really want is a quarter back.
Speaker 7: No nothing, I'm not I'm not entertaining that.
Speaker 2: Okay, what was that? Y'all never heard this?
Speaker 4: If I give you a dollar, you can keep most
of the change, because all I really want is a
quarter back. It's a cheerleader champ guy going on there
in Tyler bro I don't know. I'm pretty sure most
people have heard that. I like, I was like waiting
for y'all to like either cut me off and say no, no, no,
or finish the sentence.
Speaker 2: But you didn't do.
Speaker 4: Hey, we were talking at at the break a little
bit trying to figure out like when to discuss this.
I figured right now it's a good time, since we're
talking about the crop of quarterbacks, and I'm gonna say
something that's probably like really ignorant and now uneducated from
the fact of like I don't know the system, but
I'm gonna look at this from like a thousand foot
view and look at it from a real common sense standpoint. Uh,
losing in high school football, I have to get something
figured out with scheduling. Now, I don't watch a lot
of the I don't go to a lot of the
high school games, but my children go to Dunham, and
so I go to the Dunham games. And like, we're
in a Louisiana's in a unique spot where for three
years you've known you'd have you've had a number one
recruit in the whole country in one particular class. That's
twenty twenty seven class, got Elijah Haven over a Dunham.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: You would think that despite what the rules are, and
I know, like you just can't change rules. I get it,
But I'm just looking at this from a common sense perspective.
You got if you're known for three years, you got
the number one kid in the country playing the premier
position in football, playing quarterback. You would think you would
want to highlight that almost every week in the form
of big matchups playing good teams. But what I see
going out there is I went out to a game
a couple of weeks ago, and you got the number
one recruit and all of twenty twenty seven class in
the whole country.
Speaker 2: Number one guy, top of the list, right.
Speaker 4: And he's playing a team that shows up thirty minutes
late to the game. Yeah, they have nineteen kids dressed out.
They have about six people in the stands for their side,
And like I felt bad for the Like I felt
bad for the team just the resources and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like.
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of the games, the majority
of the games that they're playing, it's kind of the
same thing. It's the same story and like where I
feel bad for the team that they're playing, Right, it's
a running clock after like you know, halfway through the
second quarter, it's like he threw you know, eighty yard
bubble screen touchdown was untouched. It was like like you know,
it's it's these things that you're doing like a disservice.
I feel like the Louisana football because like you want
premier matchups, right, you want them to be highlighted. You
want those to be like, hey, look at Louisiana football,
Like we're awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and now we're kind of like and we are,
like like there's a lot of good I mean, uh,
Louisiana football is awesome. Why but why do you be
Carol told to come right his high school football, but
like we were getting clown like the arch Manning when
he was struggling. Is like, look who arch Maning is
playing against? And it would show like the weak teams
that Newman played against. And I'll back you up in
this point, like there was games this year where I
would go drive to watch my son play and it
would take me longer to get to the destination of
the game than he would actually be in the game.
It's forty three to nothing in the second quarter with
a running clock, right, and it's not I don't think
it's fair to either team. Yeah, right, and that they
and I know there's not like a one fix off
for this. Again, please just trust me what I say.
I don't like, I don't fall out. I don't know
the system enough to know if there is even possible.
But yeah, a common sense standpoint, it's not fair to
that team that has nineteen kids dressed out. It could
be down forty something nothing with eight minutes left in
the second quarter. Right, it is not fair to the
team that's blown them out, because that's not prepping you
for then you think that's helping Elijah get ready for
his first year at college football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's not.
Speaker 4: Like so you're taking your your best recruits and you're
not because of matchups discrepancies, like they're not prepping for
the next level as well as they should be or
could be either, right, I don't know. It was just
a frustrate It's a frustrating thing for me the last
couple of years watching because I'm watching this guy that
I like.
Speaker 2: You should highlight this guy, right, you should.
Speaker 4: He should be playing you high he should be playing
like they should be doing different things. And they play,
you know, they'll they'll have like one challenging matchup and
I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm preaching.
Speaker 4: I'm just old man on the lawn here. I get
that I don't know what the fix is, Like I
don't even know how to follow all the systems and
classes and divisions and stuff.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't follow that.
Speaker 3: You really can, I mean to your point, and like,
I don't know what the fix is either. But again,
like so I'll only know you high because I'm more
like you, Like I don't I don't follow a ton
but you know, they play Romo Catholic in Saint Paul's
in Woodlawn in the in the non.
Speaker 2: District, and then you get the district. It's a little
bit different.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to see you High and
park View and Dunham and Episcopal and Saint michael Is
like all in the same district.
Speaker 2: Maybe, like that feels like that would be competitive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And and I know that there's classifications and there's
there's enrollment, and there's all things, and like the combination
of private and public and all that stuff. But man,
when I'm watching a game and it's running clock in
the second quarter, like, who who is.
Speaker 2: That fair towards? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Benefiting too? Who is that benefit it's benefiting? No, but
like either team, Like I felt bad for the other
team because because of the situation, and I felt, you know,
I felt bad for you know, just not getting the prep.
So I don't know, it's a it's a this is
a nonsensical frustration, I guess, or complaint because you know,
I doubt you can fix it. But from a common
sense standpoint, you know, for three years you got the
number one kid in a recruiting class in the country.
How often has that come around, Yeah, not very often. Like,
especially at the quarterback position, you would think you would
play some games that you know could get aired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole station at least. Yeah, the whole deal's
screwed up. Yeah, I mean it just it is right.
And again I don't know what the fix is. But like,
because I think evangel play like they play five a right,
they're one a size, right, so you play up and
it's like it's a little bit here, a little bit there.
But some of these district matchups are rough, certainly in
the lower classifications. Some of them. It's like, I don't
think I've been to a good game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was very thankful for the Madison Prep game.
Speaker 2: For you. I'm like, oh my god, a good team. Yes,
and it was a great game, two great games. I mean,
you have a Madison Prep. But yeah, I'm with you there.
It's like that doesn't really benefit anybody, all right, trying
to get.
Speaker 4: Risk down beat Louisiana or Lafayette Christian this week, let's
go beat a little easy in the whole state, the
whole state.
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Speaker 2: How we doing, how we live in house? Thanksgiving?
Speaker 6: Good Thanksgiving? How about y'all?
Speaker 2: Uh? It was good and it was good. I mean
I just like yous freezing in Oklahoma O part there.
Speaker 4: We actually didn't even talk about Thanksgiving this week because
of the lane train. That's true, right, we skipped right
over like you know, giving reviews on the dressing and turkey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I got a question.
Speaker 3: When there's a new regime coming in, all right, every
coach likes to handle injuries a little bit different.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, right, wrong or in different in that aspect.
Speaker 3: But when there's a new coaching staff, is that something
where y'all will kind of, hey, you know, here's the
team doctors, here's a you know, training staff, and here's
like how we've done things, and do they kind of
give you feedback and here's how I've always handled things.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Usually, you know, we'll we'll schedule some type of a meeting.
We'll get together and kind of at least have the
foundation said. And then from there, obviously you're gonna you're
gonna kind of have to feel it out. You know,
you're gonna kind of see, Okay, maybe we don't do
it this way for this person. Obviously the medicine doesn't change,
but but how we handle it, how we address it,
how do do we does the coach want it from
the head trainer? Does he want it for somebody else
to do it? There's a lot of different variabilities to that. So,
I mean, obviously, with the timing of this, there's a
lot of bigger priorities in the next several weeks. But
I'm sure at some point, once the dust is kind
of settled, we'll sit down and go.
Speaker 6: Through all that. Have you been introduced yet, I'm not,
I'm not.
Speaker 4: I mean I would assume that most people haven't because
it's been such a i mean, coming in two days
before signing day, trying to like talk to the current staff.
It's like, I'm sure most people in that building haven't
been able to have that type of media that you're
talking about, like, how do you want to you know,
how do you want your information? How do you want
how do you work? Can versus how do we work?
And let's let's figure this out together.
Speaker 9: So yeah, I think I think obviously there's gonna be
a lot of that to come. But the timing of this,
there's so much that's happening right now, and I know
it's been a big topic just this morning, signing day,
everything else going on. It's it's not the main or
at the moment, but these things will happen, and I'm
sure there's a lot of people that will have those
moments down the road.
Speaker 4: So it is National Signing Day, I guess it's national,
not early Sunaday anymore.
Speaker 2: It's miss National Signing Day.
Speaker 4: So a lot of news coming in, a lot of rumors,
but I wanted to know, Like, so when we go
to like in from college to the NFL, like of course,
and then NFL trades things like that, of course, there
has to be like doctor approval for these players. They
have to pass physicals, like they know this a history
background of certain players, and I know it can't be
as detailed when you're talking about high school. You don't
probably have the laundry list of injuries for these kids
because they just haven't played and experienced as much football.
But is there any physical like pre signing day physical
or any doctor approvals or opinions that you give for
recruits that are being recruited.
Speaker 9: So it's definitely less than what you're gonna see obviously
in the NFL, like you said, there's a very rigid,
a legitimate process there. But these kids are coming from
all over the country, differ high schools, different settings. Some
of maybe had injuries when they were younger that we
might not even be aware of during during this phase
of the game. So in the high school environment, it's
it's mostly if there is something happens. If you know,
if you're recruiting a kid and we know about a
significant injury, sometimes the coaching staff will come to us
and say, hey, what do you think about this injury?
You know that there might even be an opportunity to
go through medical records and stuff if it's highly concerning,
which is something we occasionally will do. But for the
most part, you know, you kind of got to take
it as a leap of faith.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 9: Really, the first time we get to see the kids
is when they're doing their physical coming in, you know,
and there might be the rare occasion where something's more
serious than what we thought. So it does happen, but
it's it's definitely very different from the coming to the
high school.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 9: Even even the difference now with transfers is we're you know,
kind of defining and redefining that process where it's only
more of more of an NFL process where we kind
of know coming in it is a little bit more
involved in those kids where we have to they'll have
the sign off on them or not or say maybe's.
Speaker 6: And right, But we have more information usually there.
Speaker 4: And I guess for like Louisiana there's probably a lot
more information. I'm sure if like, if there's been an
injury for a Louisiana kid, that's probably a high likelihood
that you or somebody else from Brock it's probably like
worked on them. But like, yeah, if you got a
guy from California or somewhere, it's a that's a blind
leap of faith.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And even with the Louisiana kids, you know, if I
see them, you know there there's some some cross over
there with hip and stuff. So unless the kid tells
me I can talk to coach about his injury, I
technically can't because there's stop they're not part of our
team yet. So even there, there's a little bit of
a it's not always, you know, super easy, but but
usually we would know a little bit more just because
the network here and more were connected. But even then,
it's it's a little hard.
Speaker 4: Sometimes when in the NFL and you're getting traded or something,
you have to pass a physical life. So you just
talked about the hipp of rules, you can't really discuss
with the coach and injury. But is it a different
rule when the team doctor, if someone performs like a
physical is that is.
Speaker 2: That it is? What's that rule? So you once you.
Speaker 9: Come in, you know, then some of these medical things
kind of just like with the NFL, the team is
a part of your team essentially at that point. So
there are still some areas we don't cross lines, you know,
for example, mental health if it's something we don't discuss
the pages unless there's truly a danger to the player.
There are some areas, but when you come in, that's
part of what some of the paperwork y'all sign when
you first get here, is you're going to be signing
paper that says, hey, this is part of the process, right,
they're going to be allowed to understanding the medical So
so in that scenario it does change. But until then, yeah,
we're you know, the athletes are protected completely privacy.
Speaker 3: Rots, all right, So we want to get to one
of the injuries that was talked about over the last
couple of weeks and well, no pun intended there. It
is went weeks in in you know, we've had conversations
with him and so we're good to have this conversation.
I know it was reported that he had a bone
bruise and then it came out it was more severe
than that, But in actuality, the bone bruise is closer
to what actually it was. It just sounds like you
hear brus you're like, oh, it just got a you know,
black and blue spot on my ankle, when in fact,
like there's a lot that kind of goes into it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So sometimes the difference between a bone bruise and
a fracture is really not that large. I think to
your point, if you hear bone bruise, I think all
of us would assume with bone bruis that that, oh,
that's not that big.
Speaker 2: Of a deal, right. It's just you hear a bruise, like, oh,
I hit my hip on the corner of this desk.
That's why there's a little rubber thing there. Now it's
like I got a bruise from it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But exactly, that's a lot of times you say it.
Speaker 9: It doesn't sound like a big deal, But if you
think about it, the impact and force required to damage
bone in which a bone bruise is damage to bone,
it's got to be fairly significant, and it's not that
different than what the impact or or force required to
break a bone is sometimes and sometimes the line between
one and the other can be very very thin, and
that can be very blurred. If you get a different
radiologist reading an MRI on ten readings of the same patient,
half of them might say as a bone contusion, to the
other half might say it's what's called an impact fracture
or some different variation of that. And that's kind of
where this injury was, you know, And it's something that,
like you said, we talked to it and he's already
talked about the injury and giving clearance to talk about
all this, so normally we can't. But but that's what
happened with his injuries. He had an injury that his
ankle got rolled up on, it got kind of massed back,
and in that scenario, the bone and the talis, which
is the part of the ankle that's in the foot,
it got literally compressed upon itself. And in an X
ray you don't see a bone contusion or sometimes these
impact fractures. Then you get an MRI and you say, well, look,
there's definitely a regularity there and and it's a fine
line between the two, but they're both significant injuries.
Speaker 3: That was tough for me because it kept being called
a bone bruise and like, and I didn't know until
you explain that to me, Like I didn't know, and
I'm like, man, I hope you don't like if you
know wed weeks, you know, like a bruise like air
quote bruise is not keeping him out, like and I
knew what it was, but obviously, like out of respect
to win, and because what you can't say, he can't say.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm not going to put that out there.
Speaker 3: But it's like now that people realize, like what it was,
like you just said that, and I kind of like, ugh,
like it was a serious injury. And that's why you
saw he was in a boot if he wasn't, if
he wasn't in the shower. Basically, I think I saw
it like he's got a boot on.
Speaker 9: Oh, everywhere he was going, he's wearing that thing. And and
look he's a you know we know it, A tough kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tough kid.
Speaker 9: Get plays with this hard. He would he would probably
play with it with half a leg if you let him.
But but those injuries, they are tough, and especially when
it's in your ankle, it's in your foot, it's you're
pushing off of it, you're planning on it uh to do,
so you know it's it's it's a. Typically these are
gonna be structurally sound injuries, but they are injuries that
sometimes just you literally can't move your foot or ankle
in that scenario. So so it's something that you know
it's it's it's a.
Speaker 6: It's a real injury.
Speaker 9: And and sometimes people hear that bone bruised, bone contusion
and kind of like the turf toe talks we've had,
doesn't sound that tough, it doesn't sound that bad. And
I'll be honest, sometimes the bone contusions hurt more than
if you just snap the bone because they're just the.
Speaker 6: Whole bone isn't played in that area.
Speaker 9: It's kind of like, you know, if you walk with
a bruise in the bottom of your foot, every step hurts.
Speaker 6: It's kind of the same idea.
Speaker 4: So this is gonna be really, like from a medical standpoint,
like a really dumb question probably and like anybody that's
a doctor out there is probably just gonna be shaking
their head of me. But you talk about a bone bruise, okay,
So I'm just thinking about like a standard bruise on
your body it becomes discolored purple whatever that looks like.
And a lot of that color is from like blood
flow coming to it, right, like grrect me if I'm wrong,
Like a bone doesn't have like blood flow through the belt.
Like what is it if you were to look at
a bone with a bruise on it, Like, what does
it look like?
Speaker 2: Is it like a soft spot on the bone?
Speaker 4: Like is it a red and a flat Like what
would it look like from if you just looked at
the bone on a bone bruise?
Speaker 6: Well, so one bone actually does.
Speaker 9: There is a lot of small micro vessels that go
through the cap, so sure that's how it gets nutrients.
Speaker 6: That's so the bones.
Speaker 9: So when you when you get a bone bruise, it
is kind of like a bruise anywhere else where there
is gonna usually be a little bit of bleeding inflammation
within the bone. You know, if you if you were
to look at the bone, you might not be able
to see it. That's why on an X ray and
XT ray looks great usually on a bone contusion a
bone bruise, But then you get the MRI right, and
the MRI is really where you'll see the difference. You
know what we described as bony edema. It's when there
is inflammation or fluid within the bone and that area
can sometimes become weakened. In fact, if you ever hear
about a stress fracture, that's kind of what a stress
fracture is. It's an area bone that through repetitive stress,
got weakened and inflamed and then eventually cracked. So that
area does get weak, but but on on a evaluation,
the bone itself might look fairly normal. Again if you
get the X ray, it's not going to be deformed
or shifted or moved or cracked until it does it.
Speaker 2: Yes, O, man, that's it's a lot of words that
I don't understand, but I'm glad we got doc here.
Speaker 4: Guess what blood vessels in her bones that till today.
That's a great and that's a great job explaining the
whitweek's injury because like even I like when I heard
it initial, I'm like, I know that guy, but it's like, no,
it's actually closer uh to what it actually is.
Speaker 2: It's just you hear bruise and you think something different there.
So it's good to see him out there last week.
For sure. He gives a little bit different juice to.
Speaker 6: The defense percent.
Speaker 9: I'll tell you, you know, one of the things from our side,
you know, any of us that work in the medical
side of sports, that absolutely drives me crazy is when
people talk about somebody and you know the truth and
I want to yell it from the top of the mountain.
Speaker 6: Do you understand why the same way? Yeah. I remember
my first year.
Speaker 9: On staff and we had one of our tackles who
had to play with the calf strain, had a pretty
bad calf injury, right, and he was our only option
though it was one of these weeks yea, and the
guy had to go when we were go go to Auburn.
I don't remember who their defensive been was then, but
he was one of these guys, first round prospect, And
of course the tackle is getting murdered the next next week,
and I was like, he played a heck of a
game and a guy playing on one leg, And but
I couldn't.
Speaker 2: Say, listen.
Speaker 9: I was listening to the Raiders and I would to
call in so bad and be like, listen, y'all, this
is this kid, and that happens every week.
Speaker 6: You know that, you know there's more to it, right,
you know?
Speaker 9: And it's it's it's something that we wish we could
talk about, but most times we can't. We respect the privacy,
but sometimes it is frustrated.
Speaker 2: Doctors man great explanation of what was going on.
Speaker 3: There a lot of words that Flynn and I will
still never be able to say out loud because we
don't have to pronounced them. We've got Google, We've got Chat, GPT,
We'll use them. Doc doesn't have to use them. And
that's why he's the best. We appreciate it, my pleasure.
All right, when we come back, LSU head basketball coach
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interview of the week. LSU had basketball coach Kim Mulkey
joins us. Now, Coach, we appreciate the time as always.
Hopefully you had a good Thanksgiving and some good time
down there, some good sun rays down you know, Saint
Thomas there now back home.
Speaker 2: Glad to have you on as always, Coach.
Speaker 5: You can't buy this morning. I cannot be the best
interview of the week. If y'all haven't gotten Lane Kiffing,
then y'all need to come to my house and we
need to go find himose.
Speaker 3: No, coach, Coach, we've been telling you this for years,
like you are a favorite interview of the week, and
we're just glad that we get a chance to talk
to you every week. So you know we'll get Lane eventually,
but we know we get the best every single Wednesday.
Speaker 5: Well, what you get with old Maulkie, what you see
is what you get. And we have fun and talk
a little football every now and then, talk a little
family over now and then, and oh yeah, that's coach
basketball ever now and then we talk about it.
Speaker 2: Coach. I mean, it has been a crazy kind of
circus around the athletic department because anytime you know this coach,
you're looking for a football coach, and you know this rumor,
that rumor, and everybody thinks that you've got the source
and they've got the story.
Speaker 3: And then when it finally happens, like everything just kind
of explodes and it's like the big, big news story.
Speaker 2: Then you had the big press conference and you know
this coach. You've been through a lot of these.
Speaker 3: It's always something that's a little crazy when you're hiring
a football coach.
Speaker 5: Well, it is crazy, but it's even crazier at LSU.
Speaker 6: So here's my.
Speaker 5: Question to y'all. Okay, I wake up and I read stuff.
They didn't want Lane Kiffin to coach them through the playoffs,
but they'll take the offensive coordinator who's coming to LSU,
And oh yeah, you better come back over here because
we don't really know what we're doing offensively because we
hired a defensive coordinator. So I guess my question is,
what's the difference. Don't you think whatever you thought Lane
was gonna do to take players and the portal wife
can do the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, coach, when I saw you, I was supposed to
ask those questions. I know, I know when I saw that,
I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, did you
all maybe like get together?
Speaker 3: And you're like, uh and and Matt said this this morning,
like maybe the tight end coach doesn't need to call
plays in the playoff. Maybe we need to see if
we can get somebody from the uh you know, the
staff that left to go to l s U. So, yeah,
that was because they were completely against Lane coaching the team.
It was kind of a complete reversal of what we,
you know, heard that to do.
Speaker 5: It's what's the difference because he's the head coach and
versus the offensive coordinator. I don't understand it. I'm like, so,
is LSU gonna pay White?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Miss gonna pay his bonus?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm such a great question.
Speaker 1: I think it.
Speaker 5: I think it was nice of Lane to let him go.
Back there do that. I read where he was trying
to make sure they didn't penalize them and give them
a lower seed. But that just cracked me up. I'm like,
what is the difference.
Speaker 2: I know his treason was a little bit less egregious.
Speaker 3: I guess, I guess, I guess, And I mean there's
been so much talk about the calendar, and I don't
know if you saw this, but it was actually a
Rick Patino put out something on social media. He's like, man,
football's got to kind of get this fixed, because this
is like if we were in the same calendar in basketball,
it would be like our team getting the one seed
in March and then right before March madness because of
the calendar, you have to leave to go take another job,
if that job is you know, for you a better situation,
and you do it right before the NCAA tournament. And
like when I saw it, coach laid out like that,
I'm like, man, that's even more egregious than I thought.
Speaker 5: You know, I did see Patino's quote, and I will
say it's broken. I think it's broken in college football
on a lot of things. The NCAA could change the transfers,
windows and all that, but the calendar made it tough.
Old Miss made it tough. Ole Miss is the one
that put the you know, line in the sand and said,
give us an answer. Think about this. If Lane had
gone through the whole college football playoffs and then took
the job, or then we fired Brian Kelly at the
last minute, we wouldn't be talking about this. But because
of rumor, because of you know, coaches being able to
be talked to and fly their families different places, people
get real anxious and that's what happened. And it's sad
for the players. But you know, I think he had
to make a decision that he didn't want to make
at that time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think that was pretty clear too,
especially with his remarks at the press conference. You could
see that there was there was true you know, there's
true feelings and yeah, a little bit of sadness and
excitement from both directions from I thought it was very genuine.
But uh, you've been through this, you have you have
made a move, You've been one of the most talked
about coaches and made a move to LSU. So what
piece of advice would you give Lane? Coming in as
a highly touted coach, of course, the all the headlines,
but coming into this school, specifically.
Speaker 5: At LSU, you better win. They love you today and
they'll fire you tomorrow. I think expectations at LSU are
what they are, and sometimes I don't think that they're
fair because I think it's such a big enterprise and
you better win. And if you don't, I'm telling you
all those welcoming hugs, handshake, they will forget about you.
But he knows that. Think of his history. I mean,
he was fired on the tarmac of an airport. You know.
Lane has withstood a lot of criticism from what I've read.
I don't know Lane. I've never met Lane. I can
tell you one thing I do like about his family.
His brother Chris, might be the smartest one in the family.
He married a former women's basketball player and coach, so
his wife was a great player. I think her last
name was Timmins, and she played it Creton back in
the day for Connie Yory. And then they went to
Nebraska and she was on Connie Yory's staff in Nebraska,
and I bet that's where she met Chris because he
was a coach there at the time. So I want
to meet that family, because heck, she might can bring
something to the table for.
Speaker 2: My program, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: And Coach, I was thinking about you whenever Laine decided
to take the job, because there's a lot of people
and like, you know, you're in a good situation.
Speaker 2: At at ole Miss.
Speaker 3: But then you go to LSU and they were asking
the why, and I'm like, why, I'm bias.
Speaker 2: I think I know the why.
Speaker 3: I can tell you my why and why because I
think l She's the greatest place on earth. And Coach,
you were in a similar situation, like y'all won national
championships at Baylor, so y'all have done more than Ole Miss, certainly,
and you decided to come to a place that had
never won a national championship, and so you were taking
a leap of faith. And I know you know you're
from Louisiana, so it makes it a little bit different.
But this was a place that you saw and you
wanted to accept the challenge of going to LSU.
Speaker 5: I think our wives are different but yet similar. You
just mentioned this is home to me, right, this state.
I didn't come back just to come to LSU. I
came back for this entire state to start appreciating and
loving women's basketball in high school and all the universities
in the state. And that's why I came back. More
so than I thought, Oh, I can win at LSU
like I did at Baylor. I thought the resources would
be much greater at LSU because of being in the SEC,
because of being a larger flagship university versus a private school.
And I thought, if we can do that at Baylor,
which we did. We built the dynasty, guys. And I
didn't know just how hard it was until I got
to LSU and realized, oh man, I just got that
amount of money from a donor. It took me twenty
dollars at Baylor, right, But that's all I knew, and
that was okay with it. I was great. I love Baylor.
My daughter still there, but my grand babies are there.
I still go back to Waco. But his is probably different.
He's never won a national championship, has he no? All right?
So in his mind. I'm not going to speak for him,
but I bet all his mentors were saying to him,
where is it easier to recruit to and which place
will give you the best chance to contend for a
title Every year? I don't know that because hey, oh
miss is contending for a title this year. But I
don't know if it was more difficult to recruit there.
I don't know. I'm just I'm talking out of turn,
really thinking what went through his mind and his mentor's
mind on things that may have made him come here.
Speaker 4: Coach, Yeah, I kind of want to just circle back.
I want to talk about talk about your team right now.
And I know there's a lot of things that you
look for, especially in this non conference play, getting and
getting ready. I know you've got a big, big game
tomorrow night against against Duke, But for what y'all have
done so far, I know you don't look at the
final scoreboard, but my god, like I think the LSU
fans certainly are. And you got eight games of scoring
over one hundred points. Now, I don't care who you're playing.
I don't care if you're playing on air. That's that's
hard to do. So, like, just tell me about the
offensive performance that your team has been able to put
up so far.
Speaker 5: Well, we have scored a lot of points. But I
didn't know going into to the season with eight new
players that we would be able to score this many points.
I knew the non conference was going to be weak.
I always play a week non conference. I spend November
and December basically as preseason training. I'm trying to figure
it all out. Some people do it different, bring their
kids in in the summer and man, you're all here.
I don't do it that way. I need my summers off.
They need to do their things. Some play USA Basketball.
Now we get criticized a lot because the funniest thing
to me is we were number one in the net
this week. Well that just created an uproar. So my
point to everybody there is it's a flawed system. It's
a flawed system. And when it comes time for the playoffs,
whoever those twelve committee members are guys, they're going to
do what they want to do. They're going to emphasize
what's most important. I've seen programs leaning in, you know,
tight games like the number one versus the number two,
and then when it came time for the playoffs, the
loser didn't get a one seed. Right, So don't don't
read much into people's non conference. It doesn't matter. At
the end of the day, you want to be a
top four seed so you can host on your campus.
The first and second rounds, and then't go try to
win a Natty. And I've won Natties being the one seed.
I've won Natties being the three seed.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, coach, it's great stuff.
Speaker 3: As always, we appreciate the insight into well everything, not
just women's basketball. Certainly looking forward to the matchup with
Duke coming up, looking forward to the matchup you got
in uh gosh, I guess it's coming up in less
than two weeks against Louisiana tagged down in New Orleans.
Looking forward to being in the number there as well,
a lot of exciting matchups coming up. And we always
and hey, it's not just lip service, coach. Our favorite
interview of the week, you guys behavior.
Speaker 5: Said, and if you need help getting Lane on air,
call me and I'll have to go meet him and
introduce myself and say, MANE need to come with me.
You got a couple old football players that think they're
still in shape and some place for you. But back
in their heyday, back in their heyday, buddy, they.
Speaker 2: Could go, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: I used to be somebody, for sure, no doubt about now.
I pulled my hamstring thinking about running full speed. So coach,
we appreciate it so much.
Speaker 2: God be good you as well. LSU head coach Kim Moulke,
I mean incredible insight, not just basketball. I mean obviously
our teams also, and they're scoring one hundred points per game.
They won last time out one twelve to thirty five.
Speaker 3: So you know, we appreciate the basketball inside, the best
basketball mine around, but just into life, into the coaching world,
into all things LSU.
Speaker 2: That was fantastic. All right, we'll take a break.
Speaker 3: I know we're long for more OTB when we come
back live from the Raisin King studio, Off.
Speaker 1: The bench, from the locker room to the airwaves. Gets
off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in OTB.
Speaker 3: Real quick here in this segment, before we get to
our number three, Billy Lucci is reporting, and of course
Billy Luci textags has everything Texas A and M covered.
He is confirming a report out of Manhattan, Kansas that
Texas A and M offensive coordinator Colin Klein is to
take over for retiring Kansas State head coach Chris Kleman.
Kleine obviously played at Kansas State and this is the
only place I'm seeing it. But if Luci has it,
unless he got hacked, Lochi knows everything Texas A and M.
Speaker 2: So let's say reports info way guy do is Holland.
Speaker 3: Kline two K State Chris Kleiman is not somebody that
I thought was retiring. But as the Aggies get ready
for a playoff run, it feels like big news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel like big news. But if.
Speaker 4: If Weiss can do it, he can certainly do it.
He can probably still coach coordinate for that team if
they get in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll get to the wise part of him
going back to Oxford here Coach Molke talking about it.
We'll get into.
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