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nine at Central Plumbing dot Org. Matthew, you asked the

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quarterback question to Shay and it was actually, hey, look

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at you, big jay journalism.

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Speaker 2: It's not a big deal, guys, because I was about

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to ask him the same question and you stole my question.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't happen very often. You were gonna ask a

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quarterback question. I was because you're a quarterback literally.

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Speaker 2: Right here in theory. So that's a good point.

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Speaker 3: So I was looking at the class, and we've talked

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about it before, like this class for LSU doesn't have

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a quarterback, and then like your quarterback situation obviously looks

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pretty bare yep here at the moment, and Old Miss

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did have one committed to them, So I didn't know

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how much you know, Langiffin wanted that quarterback, if that

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quarterback is going to flip from Ole Miss to LSU,

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if you're going to try to get another one, So

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you know, Shae Dixon didn't mention there's a South Carolina

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commitment that they would be interested in adding, and so

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I know you're I do not, Dworth. I do not

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think your quarter Yes, I do not think that your

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quarterback next year is on this roster right now.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think that's the case.

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Speaker 3: I think we could look at the track record of

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of Elade Kiffin and he will better hope.

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Speaker 2: That it's not on the roster. I agree, I agree.

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Speaker 3: With you, and he uh, look, he'll bring in multiple

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quarterbacks in the portal. He has certainly done that before.

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But what are your thoughts on needing to get a

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quarterback in this class.

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Speaker 4: I always think you need to get a quarterback. Now

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I don't think it's as necessary as it once was.

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Certainly with the transfer portal, Lane Kiffin has proven to

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be a master.

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Speaker 3: What did what did Jay say? He found this turn

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it out on Twitter? Yeah, well, I don't know the story.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: One of the coaches saw his highlights like on Twitter

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and they were like, he was going to go somewhere

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else at the FBS level. Gosh, I'm trying to remember

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the story exactly how I went down. But then Ole

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Miss saw him. They're like, no, no, he's coming Old

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Miss actually right. Yeah, so he found them on Twitter.

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So the quarterback for that Lane found and bratol Miss,

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who's leading them into the playoffs, was the quarterback for

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Farris State University of the year before. And I remember

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when we played them looking up the stats and it

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wasn't necessarily like the most impressive outlandish stats either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So it just kind of goes to show you what

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this Lane Kiven offense has the potential to do. And

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like Shaye mentioned, he's like, well do you think I

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could I hit pretty good on him?

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Speaker 2: And multiple other people in the transfer portal before.

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Speaker 4: You don't think I can do it at LSU with

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the resources and that logo and that those three letters

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across the chest.

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Speaker 2: So we should all be excited.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's a really obvious statement that the

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quarterback for next year is not on this. But as

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far as picking or signing high school guys like you

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always want, I think you always have to have a

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comfortability with your quarterback room.

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Speaker 2: You have to have talent there.

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Speaker 4: You have to have young guys, you want all ages,

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you want older guys, you want younger guys, you want

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guys learning, you want guys teaching. That's kind of what

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a healthy quarterback room is now in this world of

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the nil Like, you don't always get that deep quarterback room,

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especially at bigger schools, right because most guys that go

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there are very highly touted, highly ranked, and if they're

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not playing, they're gonna go seek other opportunities, which I

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think everybody can understand that. Yeah, so you don't like

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a lot of times, a lot of these big time

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schools and blue blood schools are so dependent on their

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starting quarterback being healthy because everything kind of revolves around that.

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than there is anywhere else on the football field. Right,

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have young guys there, even if they're ready or not

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ready to play. You can have them and taylor a

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game plan around them if you need them in an emergency.

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you groom a kid for a couple of years and

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let him be the starter for a couple of years,

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and then while he starts, he grooms another guy. Like

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that's that's the ideal situation. And the more quarterbacks, especially

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highly ranked quarterbacks, young quarterbacks, you get in there in

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the room, the better chance you have on hitting. You're

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not gonna hit on every single person, right, And a

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guy might be better at a different college or a

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different system than he is at our system.

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Speaker 2: Like, you just never really know how that's going to

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play out. You're guessing a lot.

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Speaker 4: You're watching these kids play against other high school kids

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that will never put pads on again.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's it's one of these things that's so hard. It's

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so hard to nationally rank, you know, recruits and all

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this and that. So yeah, I think it's important to

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have people. But with the tight turnaround, with this the

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whole length thing, I'm not worried about the quarterback position.

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I'm not going to say if we don't sign somebody,

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I'm worried. I'm with you because it's just not because

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of the transfer portal enough. This was five years ago. Yeah,

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you're probably thinking a little bit differently.

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Speaker 3: But because of the portal, and because of who it

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is in the portal and shout out to who I

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knew it was a small school. I wanted to say,

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Temple is so bad, and Hunt confirmed it it is Temple.

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Speaker 2: That it was Temple where Champus was going to.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so that that that Actually, that's another point

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in the favor. I think of the evaluation because nobody

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else saw it.

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Speaker 2: He was going to Temple yep, and they're like, hold up, no,

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I think, actually we need him in Oxford, and you

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Speaker 3: You get that guy, so shout out. I appreciate that, Hunt,

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they're gonna be able to find their quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think because of the lane element, I don't think it.

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that room. Now, are you gonna be able to go

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find two or two quarterbacks? I don't think so. I

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doubt it. Like I don't know why too coveted quarterbacks

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would come at the same time. But I mean, what,

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what was it a couple of years ago where he

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got like three transferred quarterbacks to come to Old Miss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kid, that was that l Shua Howard. Yeah, Like

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there was three guys. You got Sanders who was the

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Oklahoma State starting quarterback.

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Speaker 4: That was the wildest situation, Like I just thought of

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I thought about it again, like right the second, like

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while we're talking, like they got three guys, and I'm like,

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what is this guy's doing?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 4: Why would they go there right now? Don't they see

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everybody else going there as well? Yeah, it's a yeah,

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it's not certainly not a big pressure point for me

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if we don't sign, but I would like to sign somebody.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know next year is a big class.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly a big quarterback crop, especially here in Louisiana.

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Speaker 7: So quarterback just signed, but he signed as a corner.

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Does Ellis is a quarterback but a lot of schools

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were recruiting him as a quarterback, But.

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Speaker 2: Raymond.

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Speaker 7: He is the one that recruited him as a cornerback

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to LSU. He threw for twighty nine yards last season

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right thirty one touchdowns, seven interceptions.

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Speaker 4: If I give you a dollar, he's a corner. Yeah,

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you can keep most of the change, Can you finish it?

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All I really want is a quarter back.

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Speaker 7: No nothing, I'm not I'm not entertaining that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what was that? Y'all never heard this?

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Speaker 4: If I give you a dollar, you can keep most

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of the change, because all I really want is a

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quarter back. It's a cheerleader champ guy going on there

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in Tyler bro I don't know. I'm pretty sure most

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people have heard that. I like, I was like waiting

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for y'all to like either cut me off and say no, no, no,

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or finish the sentence.

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Speaker 2: But you didn't do.

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Speaker 4: Hey, we were talking at at the break a little

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bit trying to figure out like when to discuss this.

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I figured right now it's a good time, since we're

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talking about the crop of quarterbacks, and I'm gonna say

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something that's probably like really ignorant and now uneducated from

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the fact of like I don't know the system, but

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I'm gonna look at this from like a thousand foot

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view and look at it from a real common sense standpoint. Uh,

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losing in high school football, I have to get something

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figured out with scheduling. Now, I don't watch a lot

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of the I don't go to a lot of the

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high school games, but my children go to Dunham, and

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so I go to the Dunham games. And like, we're

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in a Louisiana's in a unique spot where for three

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years you've known you'd have you've had a number one

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recruit in the whole country in one particular class. That's

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twenty twenty seven class, got Elijah Haven over a Dunham.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: You would think that despite what the rules are, and

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You got if you're known for three years, you got

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the number one kid in the country playing the premier

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position in football, playing quarterback. You would think you would

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want to highlight that almost every week in the form

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of big matchups playing good teams. But what I see

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going out there is I went out to a game

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a couple of weeks ago, and you got the number

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one recruit and all of twenty twenty seven class in

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Speaker 2: Number one guy, top of the list, right.

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Speaker 4: And he's playing a team that shows up thirty minutes

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late to the game. Yeah, they have nineteen kids dressed out.

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They have about six people in the stands for their side,

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bad for the team just the resources and everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like.

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Speaker 4: And I think a lot of the games, the majority

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of the games that they're playing, it's kind of the

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same thing. It's the same story and like where I

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feel bad for the team that they're playing, Right, it's

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a running clock after like you know, halfway through the

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second quarter, it's like he threw you know, eighty yard

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bubble screen touchdown was untouched. It was like like you know,

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it's it's these things that you're doing like a disservice.

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I feel like the Louisana football because like you want

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premier matchups, right, you want them to be highlighted. You

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want those to be like, hey, look at Louisiana football,

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Louisiana football is awesome. Why but why do you be

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like we were getting clown like the arch Manning when

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he was struggling. Is like, look who arch Maning is

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playing against? And it would show like the weak teams

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that Newman played against. And I'll back you up in

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this point, like there was games this year where I

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would go drive to watch my son play and it

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would take me longer to get to the destination of

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the game than he would actually be in the game.

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It's forty three to nothing in the second quarter with

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a running clock, right, and it's not I don't think

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it's fair to either team. Yeah, right, and that they

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and I know there's not like a one fix off

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for this. Again, please just trust me what I say.

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I don't like, I don't fall out. I don't know

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the system enough to know if there is even possible.

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But yeah, a common sense standpoint, it's not fair to

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that team that has nineteen kids dressed out. It could

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be down forty something nothing with eight minutes left in

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the second quarter. Right, it is not fair to the

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team that's blown them out, because that's not prepping you

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for then you think that's helping Elijah get ready for

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his first year at college football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's not.

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Speaker 4: Like so you're taking your your best recruits and you're

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not because of matchups discrepancies, like they're not prepping for

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the next level as well as they should be or

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could be either, right, I don't know. It was just

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a frustrate It's a frustrating thing for me the last

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couple of years watching because I'm watching this guy that

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I like.

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Speaker 2: You should highlight this guy, right, you should.

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Speaker 4: He should be playing you high he should be playing

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like they should be doing different things. And they play,

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you know, they'll they'll have like one challenging matchup and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm preaching.

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Speaker 4: I'm just old man on the lawn here. I get

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that I don't know what the fix is, Like I

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don't even know how to follow all the systems and

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classes and divisions and stuff.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't follow that.

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Speaker 3: You really can, I mean to your point, and like,

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I don't know what the fix is either. But again,

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like so I'll only know you high because I'm more

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like you, Like I don't I don't follow a ton

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but you know, they play Romo Catholic in Saint Paul's

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in Woodlawn in the in the non.

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Speaker 2: District, and then you get the district. It's a little

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bit different.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to see you High and

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park View and Dunham and Episcopal and Saint michael Is

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like all in the same district.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, like that feels like that would be competitive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And and I know that there's classifications and there's

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there's enrollment, and there's all things, and like the combination

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of private and public and all that stuff. But man,

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when I'm watching a game and it's running clock in

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the second quarter, like, who who is.

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Speaker 2: That fair towards? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Benefiting too? Who is that benefit it's benefiting? No, but

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like either team, Like I felt bad for the other

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team because because of the situation, and I felt, you know,

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I felt bad for you know, just not getting the prep.

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So I don't know, it's a it's a this is

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a nonsensical frustration, I guess, or complaint because you know,

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I doubt you can fix it. But from a common

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sense standpoint, you know, for three years you got the

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number one kid in a recruiting class in the country.

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How often has that come around, Yeah, not very often. Like,

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especially at the quarterback position, you would think you would

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play some games that you know could get aired.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole station at least. Yeah, the whole deal's

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screwed up. Yeah, I mean it just it is right.

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And again I don't know what the fix is. But like,

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because I think evangel play like they play five a right,

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they're one a size, right, so you play up and

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it's like it's a little bit here, a little bit there.

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But some of these district matchups are rough, certainly in

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the lower classifications. Some of them. It's like, I don't

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think I've been to a good game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was very thankful for the Madison Prep game.

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Speaker 2: For you. I'm like, oh my god, a good team. Yes,

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and it was a great game, two great games. I mean,

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you have a Madison Prep. But yeah, I'm with you there.

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It's like that doesn't really benefit anybody, all right, trying

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to get.

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Speaker 4: Risk down beat Louisiana or Lafayette Christian this week, let's

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go beat a little easy in the whole state, the

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whole state.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fair enough, all right, we will step

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Speaker 3: Forget Doc, can't hear the R and B Wednesday, I

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Speaker 2: How we doing, how we live in house? Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 6: Good Thanksgiving? How about y'all?

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Speaker 2: Uh? It was good and it was good. I mean

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I just like yous freezing in Oklahoma O part there.

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Speaker 4: We actually didn't even talk about Thanksgiving this week because

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of the lane train. That's true, right, we skipped right

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over like you know, giving reviews on the dressing and turkey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I got a question.

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Speaker 3: When there's a new regime coming in, all right, every

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coach likes to handle injuries a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, right, wrong or in different in that aspect.

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Speaker 3: But when there's a new coaching staff, is that something

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where y'all will kind of, hey, you know, here's the

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team doctors, here's a you know, training staff, and here's

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like how we've done things, and do they kind of

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give you feedback and here's how I've always handled things.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Usually, you know, we'll we'll schedule some type of a meeting.

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We'll get together and kind of at least have the

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foundation said. And then from there, obviously you're gonna you're

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gonna kind of have to feel it out. You know,

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you're gonna kind of see, Okay, maybe we don't do

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it this way for this person. Obviously the medicine doesn't change,

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but but how we handle it, how we address it,

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how do do we does the coach want it from

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the head trainer? Does he want it for somebody else

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to do it? There's a lot of different variabilities to that. So,

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I mean, obviously, with the timing of this, there's a

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lot of bigger priorities in the next several weeks. But

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of settled, we'll sit down and go.

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Speaker 6: Through all that. Have you been introduced yet, I'm not,

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I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I mean I would assume that most people haven't because

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it's been such a i mean, coming in two days

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before signing day, trying to like talk to the current staff.

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It's like, I'm sure most people in that building haven't

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been able to have that type of media that you're

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talking about, like, how do you want to you know,

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how do you want your information? How do you want

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how do you work? Can versus how do we work?

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And let's let's figure this out together.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, I think I think obviously there's gonna be

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a lot of that to come. But the timing of this,

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there's so much that's happening right now, and I know

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it's been a big topic just this morning, signing day,

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everything else going on. It's it's not the main or

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at the moment, but these things will happen, and I'm

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sure there's a lot of people that will have those

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moments down the road.

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Speaker 4: So it is National Signing Day, I guess it's national,

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not early Sunaday anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's miss National Signing Day.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of news coming in, a lot of rumors,

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but I wanted to know, Like, so when we go

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to like in from college to the NFL, like of course,

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and then NFL trades things like that, of course, there

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has to be like doctor approval for these players. They

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have to pass physicals, like they know this a history

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background of certain players, and I know it can't be

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as detailed when you're talking about high school. You don't

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probably have the laundry list of injuries for these kids

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because they just haven't played and experienced as much football.

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But is there any physical like pre signing day physical

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or any doctor approvals or opinions that you give for

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recruits that are being recruited.

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Speaker 9: So it's definitely less than what you're gonna see obviously

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in the NFL, like you said, there's a very rigid,

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a legitimate process there. But these kids are coming from

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all over the country, differ high schools, different settings. Some

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of maybe had injuries when they were younger that we

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might not even be aware of during during this phase

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of the game. So in the high school environment, it's

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it's mostly if there is something happens. If you know,

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if you're recruiting a kid and we know about a

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significant injury, sometimes the coaching staff will come to us

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and say, hey, what do you think about this injury?

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go through medical records and stuff if it's highly concerning,

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which is something we occasionally will do. But for the

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most part, you know, you kind of got to take

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it as a leap of faith.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 9: Really, the first time we get to see the kids

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is when they're doing their physical coming in, you know,

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and there might be the rare occasion where something's more

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serious than what we thought. So it does happen, but

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it's it's definitely very different from the coming to the

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high school.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 9: Even even the difference now with transfers is we're you know,

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kind of defining and redefining that process where it's only

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more of more of an NFL process where we kind

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of know coming in it is a little bit more

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involved in those kids where we have to they'll have

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the sign off on them or not or say maybe's.

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Speaker 6: And right, But we have more information usually there.

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Speaker 4: And I guess for like Louisiana there's probably a lot

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more information. I'm sure if like, if there's been an

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injury for a Louisiana kid, that's probably a high likelihood

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that you or somebody else from Brock it's probably like

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worked on them. But like, yeah, if you got a

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guy from California or somewhere, it's a that's a blind

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leap of faith.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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00:21:13,519 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 9: And even with the Louisiana kids, you know, if I

477
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,319
see them, you know there there's some some cross over

478
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,119
there with hip and stuff. So unless the kid tells

479
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,039
me I can talk to coach about his injury, I

480
00:21:21,079 --> 00:21:23,079
technically can't because there's stop they're not part of our

481
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,160
team yet. So even there, there's a little bit of

482
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,000
a it's not always, you know, super easy, but but

483
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,240
usually we would know a little bit more just because

484
00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:32,079
the network here and more were connected. But even then,

485
00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:34,279
it's it's a little hard.

486
00:21:34,079 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 4: Sometimes when in the NFL and you're getting traded or something,

487
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,160
you have to pass a physical life. So you just

488
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,960
talked about the hipp of rules, you can't really discuss

489
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,799
with the coach and injury. But is it a different

490
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:53,160
rule when the team doctor, if someone performs like a

491
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,319
physical is that is.

492
00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:58,279
Speaker 2: That it is? What's that rule? So you once you.

493
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 9: Come in, you know, then some of these medical things

494
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,839
kind of just like with the NFL, the team is

495
00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:06,200
a part of your team essentially at that point. So

496
00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:08,880
there are still some areas we don't cross lines, you know,

497
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,640
for example, mental health if it's something we don't discuss

498
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,200
the pages unless there's truly a danger to the player.

499
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,559
There are some areas, but when you come in, that's

500
00:22:16,599 --> 00:22:18,200
part of what some of the paperwork y'all sign when

501
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,480
you first get here, is you're going to be signing

502
00:22:19,519 --> 00:22:22,319
paper that says, hey, this is part of the process, right,

503
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,079
they're going to be allowed to understanding the medical So

504
00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:28,160
so in that scenario it does change. But until then, yeah,

505
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,319
we're you know, the athletes are protected completely privacy.

506
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 3: Rots, all right, So we want to get to one

507
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,599
of the injuries that was talked about over the last

508
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,279
couple of weeks and well, no pun intended there. It

509
00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:44,519
is went weeks in in you know, we've had conversations

510
00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:46,720
with him and so we're good to have this conversation.

511
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,440
I know it was reported that he had a bone

512
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,519
bruise and then it came out it was more severe

513
00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:56,279
than that, But in actuality, the bone bruise is closer

514
00:22:56,279 --> 00:22:58,559
to what actually it was. It just sounds like you

515
00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:00,920
hear brus you're like, oh, it just got a you know,

516
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,480
black and blue spot on my ankle, when in fact,

517
00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:05,200
like there's a lot that kind of goes into it.

518
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,079
Speaker 9: Yeah, So sometimes the difference between a bone bruise and

519
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,799
a fracture is really not that large. I think to

520
00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:12,319
your point, if you hear bone bruise, I think all

521
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,960
of us would assume with bone bruis that that, oh,

522
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,640
that's not that big.

523
00:23:16,519 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 2: Of a deal, right. It's just you hear a bruise, like, oh,

524
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,559
I hit my hip on the corner of this desk.

525
00:23:21,559 --> 00:23:23,640
That's why there's a little rubber thing there. Now it's

526
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,680
like I got a bruise from it.

527
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, But exactly, that's a lot of times you say it.

528
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 9: It doesn't sound like a big deal, But if you

529
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,720
think about it, the impact and force required to damage

530
00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:34,799
bone in which a bone bruise is damage to bone,

531
00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:37,559
it's got to be fairly significant, and it's not that

532
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,880
different than what the impact or or force required to

533
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,559
break a bone is sometimes and sometimes the line between

534
00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:46,160
one and the other can be very very thin, and

535
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,319
that can be very blurred. If you get a different

536
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,160
radiologist reading an MRI on ten readings of the same patient,

537
00:23:54,279 --> 00:23:55,920
half of them might say as a bone contusion, to the

538
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,079
other half might say it's what's called an impact fracture

539
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,680
or some different variation of that. And that's kind of

540
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,559
where this injury was, you know, And it's something that,

541
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,519
like you said, we talked to it and he's already

542
00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:06,519
talked about the injury and giving clearance to talk about

543
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:09,119
all this, so normally we can't. But but that's what

544
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,839
happened with his injuries. He had an injury that his

545
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,119
ankle got rolled up on, it got kind of massed back,

546
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:17,200
and in that scenario, the bone and the talis, which

547
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,000
is the part of the ankle that's in the foot,

548
00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:23,319
it got literally compressed upon itself. And in an X

549
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,559
ray you don't see a bone contusion or sometimes these

550
00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:28,279
impact fractures. Then you get an MRI and you say, well, look,

551
00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:30,680
there's definitely a regularity there and and it's a fine

552
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,079
line between the two, but they're both significant injuries.

553
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,799
Speaker 3: That was tough for me because it kept being called

554
00:24:35,839 --> 00:24:37,519
a bone bruise and like, and I didn't know until

555
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,079
you explain that to me, Like I didn't know, and

556
00:24:39,079 --> 00:24:41,319
I'm like, man, I hope you don't like if you

557
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,680
know wed weeks, you know, like a bruise like air

558
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,559
quote bruise is not keeping him out, like and I

559
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,599
knew what it was, but obviously, like out of respect

560
00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:50,480
to win, and because what you can't say, he can't say.

561
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: It's like I'm not going to put that out there.

562
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: But it's like now that people realize, like what it was,

563
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,119
like you just said that, and I kind of like, ugh,

564
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,920
like it was a serious injury. And that's why you

565
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,559
saw he was in a boot if he wasn't, if

566
00:25:01,559 --> 00:25:03,480
he wasn't in the shower. Basically, I think I saw

567
00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:04,559
it like he's got a boot on.

568
00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:06,599
Speaker 9: Oh, everywhere he was going, he's wearing that thing. And and

569
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,920
look he's a you know we know it, A tough kid.

570
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, tough kid.

571
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,279
Speaker 9: Get plays with this hard. He would he would probably

572
00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:13,839
play with it with half a leg if you let him.

573
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:16,680
But but those injuries, they are tough, and especially when

574
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,000
it's in your ankle, it's in your foot, it's you're

575
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,319
pushing off of it, you're planning on it uh to do,

576
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,599
so you know it's it's it's a. Typically these are

577
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,920
gonna be structurally sound injuries, but they are injuries that

578
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,799
sometimes just you literally can't move your foot or ankle

579
00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:29,599
in that scenario. So so it's something that you know

580
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,279
it's it's it's a.

581
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 6: It's a real injury.

582
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 9: And and sometimes people hear that bone bruised, bone contusion

583
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,599
and kind of like the turf toe talks we've had,

584
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,039
doesn't sound that tough, it doesn't sound that bad. And

585
00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:40,599
I'll be honest, sometimes the bone contusions hurt more than

586
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,599
if you just snap the bone because they're just the.

587
00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 6: Whole bone isn't played in that area.

588
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:45,279
Speaker 9: It's kind of like, you know, if you walk with

589
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,440
a bruise in the bottom of your foot, every step hurts.

590
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 6: It's kind of the same idea.

591
00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: So this is gonna be really, like from a medical standpoint,

592
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,359
like a really dumb question probably and like anybody that's

593
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,240
a doctor out there is probably just gonna be shaking

594
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,920
their head of me. But you talk about a bone bruise, okay,

595
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,319
So I'm just thinking about like a standard bruise on

596
00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:06,799
your body it becomes discolored purple whatever that looks like.

597
00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:08,240
And a lot of that color is from like blood

598
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,079
flow coming to it, right, like grrect me if I'm wrong,

599
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,119
Like a bone doesn't have like blood flow through the belt.

600
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,519
Like what is it if you were to look at

601
00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:18,200
a bone with a bruise on it, Like, what does

602
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:18,839
it look like?

603
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: Is it like a soft spot on the bone?

604
00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 4: Like is it a red and a flat Like what

605
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,920
would it look like from if you just looked at

606
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,079
the bone on a bone bruise?

607
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 6: Well, so one bone actually does.

608
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 9: There is a lot of small micro vessels that go

609
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,839
through the cap, so sure that's how it gets nutrients.

610
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 6: That's so the bones.

611
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 9: So when you when you get a bone bruise, it

612
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,720
is kind of like a bruise anywhere else where there

613
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,720
is gonna usually be a little bit of bleeding inflammation

614
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:40,599
within the bone. You know, if you if you were

615
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,160
to look at the bone, you might not be able

616
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,319
to see it. That's why on an X ray and

617
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,279
XT ray looks great usually on a bone contusion a

618
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,279
bone bruise, But then you get the MRI right, and

619
00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:49,240
the MRI is really where you'll see the difference. You

620
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:51,920
know what we described as bony edema. It's when there

621
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,200
is inflammation or fluid within the bone and that area

622
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,920
can sometimes become weakened. In fact, if you ever hear

623
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,079
about a stress fracture, that's kind of what a stress

624
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,400
fracture is. It's an area bone that through repetitive stress,

625
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,440
got weakened and inflamed and then eventually cracked. So that

626
00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:09,680
area does get weak, but but on on a evaluation,

627
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:11,519
the bone itself might look fairly normal. Again if you

628
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:13,079
get the X ray, it's not going to be deformed

629
00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:16,920
or shifted or moved or cracked until it does it.

630
00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: Yes, O, man, that's it's a lot of words that

631
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,839
I don't understand, but I'm glad we got doc here.

632
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,839
Speaker 4: Guess what blood vessels in her bones that till today.

633
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,119
That's a great and that's a great job explaining the

634
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,680
whitweek's injury because like even I like when I heard

635
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,200
it initial, I'm like, I know that guy, but it's like, no,

636
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:37,279
it's actually closer uh to what it actually is.

637
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: It's just you hear bruise and you think something different there.

638
00:27:39,519 --> 00:27:41,119
So it's good to see him out there last week.

639
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,119
For sure. He gives a little bit different juice to.

640
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:45,319
Speaker 6: The defense percent.

641
00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:47,279
Speaker 9: I'll tell you, you know, one of the things from our side,

642
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:48,720
you know, any of us that work in the medical

643
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:51,440
side of sports, that absolutely drives me crazy is when

644
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,880
people talk about somebody and you know the truth and

645
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,039
I want to yell it from the top of the mountain.

646
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 6: Do you understand why the same way? Yeah. I remember

647
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,079
my first year.

648
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 9: On staff and we had one of our tackles who

649
00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:03,960
had to play with the calf strain, had a pretty

650
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,000
bad calf injury, right, and he was our only option

651
00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:08,400
though it was one of these weeks yea, and the

652
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,960
guy had to go when we were go go to Auburn.

653
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,799
I don't remember who their defensive been was then, but

654
00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:14,279
he was one of these guys, first round prospect, And

655
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,319
of course the tackle is getting murdered the next next week,

656
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,640
and I was like, he played a heck of a

657
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,480
game and a guy playing on one leg, And but

658
00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:21,160
I couldn't.

659
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: Say, listen.

660
00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:22,839
Speaker 9: I was listening to the Raiders and I would to

661
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:24,319
call in so bad and be like, listen, y'all, this

662
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,720
is this kid, and that happens every week.

663
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 6: You know that, you know there's more to it, right,

664
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:29,559
you know?

665
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,559
Speaker 9: And it's it's it's something that we wish we could

666
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:35,119
talk about, but most times we can't. We respect the privacy,

667
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,680
but sometimes it is frustrated.

668
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: Doctors man great explanation of what was going on.

669
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:41,559
Speaker 3: There a lot of words that Flynn and I will

670
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:43,400
still never be able to say out loud because we

671
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,200
don't have to pronounced them. We've got Google, We've got Chat, GPT,

672
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,400
We'll use them. Doc doesn't have to use them. And

673
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,640
that's why he's the best. We appreciate it, my pleasure.

674
00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:53,599
All right, when we come back, LSU head basketball coach

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dot com. All right, we're gonna get to our favorite

714
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interview of the week. LSU had basketball coach Kim Mulkey

715
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,279
joins us. Now, Coach, we appreciate the time as always.

716
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:07,480
Hopefully you had a good Thanksgiving and some good time

717
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:11,240
down there, some good sun rays down you know, Saint

718
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:12,839
Thomas there now back home.

719
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: Glad to have you on as always, Coach.

720
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 5: You can't buy this morning. I cannot be the best

721
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,880
interview of the week. If y'all haven't gotten Lane Kiffing,

722
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,759
then y'all need to come to my house and we

723
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:27,200
need to go find himose.

724
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:31,359
Speaker 3: No, coach, Coach, we've been telling you this for years,

725
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,839
like you are a favorite interview of the week, and

726
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:36,440
we're just glad that we get a chance to talk

727
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,000
to you every week. So you know we'll get Lane eventually,

728
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:41,880
but we know we get the best every single Wednesday.

729
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 5: Well, what you get with old Maulkie, what you see

730
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,240
is what you get. And we have fun and talk

731
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:51,720
a little football every now and then, talk a little

732
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:55,000
family over now and then, and oh yeah, that's coach

733
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:57,680
basketball ever now and then we talk about it.

734
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: Coach. I mean, it has been a crazy kind of

735
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,839
circus around the athletic department because anytime you know this coach,

736
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:09,920
you're looking for a football coach, and you know this rumor,

737
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,559
that rumor, and everybody thinks that you've got the source

738
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:13,559
and they've got the story.

739
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,079
Speaker 3: And then when it finally happens, like everything just kind

740
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:18,279
of explodes and it's like the big, big news story.

741
00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:20,759
Speaker 2: Then you had the big press conference and you know

742
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:22,400
this coach. You've been through a lot of these.

743
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,079
Speaker 3: It's always something that's a little crazy when you're hiring

744
00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:25,880
a football coach.

745
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,319
Speaker 5: Well, it is crazy, but it's even crazier at LSU.

746
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,119
Speaker 6: So here's my.

747
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 5: Question to y'all. Okay, I wake up and I read stuff.

748
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:39,079
They didn't want Lane Kiffin to coach them through the playoffs,

749
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,599
but they'll take the offensive coordinator who's coming to LSU,

750
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:46,400
And oh yeah, you better come back over here because

751
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,759
we don't really know what we're doing offensively because we

752
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,160
hired a defensive coordinator. So I guess my question is,

753
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:56,359
what's the difference. Don't you think whatever you thought Lane

754
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,880
was gonna do to take players and the portal wife

755
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:01,039
can do the same thing.

756
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, coach, when I saw you, I was supposed to

757
00:33:03,559 --> 00:33:05,119
ask those questions. I know, I know when I saw that,

758
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:07,279
I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, did you

759
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:08,640
all maybe like get together?

760
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,359
Speaker 3: And you're like, uh and and Matt said this this morning,

761
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,839
like maybe the tight end coach doesn't need to call

762
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:15,920
plays in the playoff. Maybe we need to see if

763
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,319
we can get somebody from the uh you know, the

764
00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:20,480
staff that left to go to l s U. So, yeah,

765
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:23,799
that was because they were completely against Lane coaching the team.

766
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,359
It was kind of a complete reversal of what we,

767
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,240
you know, heard that to do.

768
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 5: It's what's the difference because he's the head coach and

769
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,920
versus the offensive coordinator. I don't understand it. I'm like, so,

770
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:40,759
is LSU gonna pay White?

771
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: Oh?

772
00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:44,559
Speaker 5: Miss gonna pay his bonus?

773
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: You know?

774
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:48,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm such a great question.

775
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: I think it.

776
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 5: I think it was nice of Lane to let him go.

777
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,960
Back there do that. I read where he was trying

778
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,160
to make sure they didn't penalize them and give them

779
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,319
a lower seed. But that just cracked me up. I'm like,

780
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,519
what is the difference.

781
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,519
Speaker 2: I know his treason was a little bit less egregious.

782
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: I guess, I guess, I guess, And I mean there's

783
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,639
been so much talk about the calendar, and I don't

784
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,159
know if you saw this, but it was actually a

785
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,559
Rick Patino put out something on social media. He's like, man,

786
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:20,880
football's got to kind of get this fixed, because this

787
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,840
is like if we were in the same calendar in basketball,

788
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,159
it would be like our team getting the one seed

789
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,880
in March and then right before March madness because of

790
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,360
the calendar, you have to leave to go take another job,

791
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,639
if that job is you know, for you a better situation,

792
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,400
and you do it right before the NCAA tournament. And

793
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,320
like when I saw it, coach laid out like that,

794
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,440
I'm like, man, that's even more egregious than I thought.

795
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 5: You know, I did see Patino's quote, and I will

796
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,880
say it's broken. I think it's broken in college football

797
00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:55,000
on a lot of things. The NCAA could change the transfers,

798
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:59,880
windows and all that, but the calendar made it tough.

799
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,719
Old Miss made it tough. Ole Miss is the one

800
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,559
that put the you know, line in the sand and said,

801
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:09,920
give us an answer. Think about this. If Lane had

802
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:15,559
gone through the whole college football playoffs and then took

803
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,320
the job, or then we fired Brian Kelly at the

804
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,960
last minute, we wouldn't be talking about this. But because

805
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,480
of rumor, because of you know, coaches being able to

806
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,440
be talked to and fly their families different places, people

807
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,320
get real anxious and that's what happened. And it's sad

808
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,599
for the players. But you know, I think he had

809
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:38,480
to make a decision that he didn't want to make

810
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:39,199
at that time.

811
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think that was pretty clear too,

812
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,480
especially with his remarks at the press conference. You could

813
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,599
see that there was there was true you know, there's

814
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:50,000
true feelings and yeah, a little bit of sadness and

815
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,199
excitement from both directions from I thought it was very genuine.

816
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:55,760
But uh, you've been through this, you have you have

817
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,760
made a move, You've been one of the most talked

818
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,039
about coaches and made a move to LSU. So what

819
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,599
piece of advice would you give Lane? Coming in as

820
00:36:05,639 --> 00:36:09,400
a highly touted coach, of course, the all the headlines,

821
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,960
but coming into this school, specifically.

822
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 5: At LSU, you better win. They love you today and

823
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,119
they'll fire you tomorrow. I think expectations at LSU are

824
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:24,360
what they are, and sometimes I don't think that they're

825
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:31,639
fair because I think it's such a big enterprise and

826
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:36,639
you better win. And if you don't, I'm telling you

827
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,639
all those welcoming hugs, handshake, they will forget about you.

828
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,239
But he knows that. Think of his history. I mean,

829
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,360
he was fired on the tarmac of an airport. You know.

830
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:54,159
Lane has withstood a lot of criticism from what I've read.

831
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,400
I don't know Lane. I've never met Lane. I can

832
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,400
tell you one thing I do like about his family.

833
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,920
His brother Chris, might be the smartest one in the family.

834
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,960
He married a former women's basketball player and coach, so

835
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:15,360
his wife was a great player. I think her last

836
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,039
name was Timmins, and she played it Creton back in

837
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:21,840
the day for Connie Yory. And then they went to

838
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:25,559
Nebraska and she was on Connie Yory's staff in Nebraska,

839
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,960
and I bet that's where she met Chris because he

840
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:32,519
was a coach there at the time. So I want

841
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:35,760
to meet that family, because heck, she might can bring

842
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:36,800
something to the table for.

843
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: My program, no doubt about it.

844
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:43,039
Speaker 3: And Coach, I was thinking about you whenever Laine decided

845
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:45,320
to take the job, because there's a lot of people

846
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,000
and like, you know, you're in a good situation.

847
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: At at ole Miss.

848
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 3: But then you go to LSU and they were asking

849
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,599
the why, and I'm like, why, I'm bias.

850
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: I think I know the why.

851
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: I can tell you my why and why because I

852
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,920
think l She's the greatest place on earth. And Coach,

853
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,000
you were in a similar situation, like y'all won national

854
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,480
championships at Baylor, so y'all have done more than Ole Miss, certainly,

855
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,639
and you decided to come to a place that had

856
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:07,840
never won a national championship, and so you were taking

857
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,719
a leap of faith. And I know you know you're

858
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,760
from Louisiana, so it makes it a little bit different.

859
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,159
But this was a place that you saw and you

860
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,800
wanted to accept the challenge of going to LSU.

861
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:23,119
Speaker 5: I think our wives are different but yet similar. You

862
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,239
just mentioned this is home to me, right, this state.

863
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,840
I didn't come back just to come to LSU. I

864
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,800
came back for this entire state to start appreciating and

865
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,920
loving women's basketball in high school and all the universities

866
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,920
in the state. And that's why I came back. More

867
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,639
so than I thought, Oh, I can win at LSU

868
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,880
like I did at Baylor. I thought the resources would

869
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,000
be much greater at LSU because of being in the SEC,

870
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:58,519
because of being a larger flagship university versus a private school.

871
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,480
And I thought, if we can do that at Baylor,

872
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:05,559
which we did. We built the dynasty, guys. And I

873
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:09,119
didn't know just how hard it was until I got

874
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:12,559
to LSU and realized, oh man, I just got that

875
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:14,840
amount of money from a donor. It took me twenty

876
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,039
dollars at Baylor, right, But that's all I knew, and

877
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:23,559
that was okay with it. I was great. I love Baylor.

878
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,440
My daughter still there, but my grand babies are there.

879
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,320
I still go back to Waco. But his is probably different.

880
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:37,920
He's never won a national championship, has he no? All right?

881
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,239
So in his mind. I'm not going to speak for him,

882
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:45,679
but I bet all his mentors were saying to him,

883
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:51,159
where is it easier to recruit to and which place

884
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,280
will give you the best chance to contend for a

885
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,840
title Every year? I don't know that because hey, oh

886
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,480
miss is contending for a title this year. But I

887
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:05,400
don't know if it was more difficult to recruit there.

888
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:08,039
I don't know. I'm just I'm talking out of turn,

889
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:12,039
really thinking what went through his mind and his mentor's

890
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,840
mind on things that may have made him come here.

891
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 4: Coach, Yeah, I kind of want to just circle back.

892
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:24,920
I want to talk about talk about your team right now.

893
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,440
And I know there's a lot of things that you

894
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,320
look for, especially in this non conference play, getting and

895
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,320
getting ready. I know you've got a big, big game

896
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,239
tomorrow night against against Duke, But for what y'all have

897
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,760
done so far, I know you don't look at the

898
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,079
final scoreboard, but my god, like I think the LSU

899
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:44,599
fans certainly are. And you got eight games of scoring

900
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:47,800
over one hundred points. Now, I don't care who you're playing.

901
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,880
I don't care if you're playing on air. That's that's

902
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,559
hard to do. So, like, just tell me about the

903
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:53,960
offensive performance that your team has been able to put

904
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:54,440
up so far.

905
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:59,039
Speaker 5: Well, we have scored a lot of points. But I

906
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:01,440
didn't know going into to the season with eight new

907
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,039
players that we would be able to score this many points.

908
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,800
I knew the non conference was going to be weak.

909
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:10,079
I always play a week non conference. I spend November

910
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:14,519
and December basically as preseason training. I'm trying to figure

911
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:17,519
it all out. Some people do it different, bring their

912
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:19,800
kids in in the summer and man, you're all here.

913
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,320
I don't do it that way. I need my summers off.

914
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,199
They need to do their things. Some play USA Basketball.

915
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:30,360
Now we get criticized a lot because the funniest thing

916
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,360
to me is we were number one in the net

917
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:39,519
this week. Well that just created an uproar. So my

918
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:46,239
point to everybody there is it's a flawed system. It's

919
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,920
a flawed system. And when it comes time for the playoffs,

920
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:52,920
whoever those twelve committee members are guys, they're going to

921
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,760
do what they want to do. They're going to emphasize

922
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:01,840
what's most important. I've seen programs leaning in, you know,

923
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,519
tight games like the number one versus the number two,

924
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,360
and then when it came time for the playoffs, the

925
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,880
loser didn't get a one seed. Right, So don't don't

926
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,480
read much into people's non conference. It doesn't matter. At

927
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,320
the end of the day, you want to be a

928
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,719
top four seed so you can host on your campus.

929
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,719
The first and second rounds, and then't go try to

930
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,000
win a Natty. And I've won Natties being the one seed.

931
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:27,840
I've won Natties being the three seed.

932
00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:34,039
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, coach, it's great stuff.

933
00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:37,679
Speaker 3: As always, we appreciate the insight into well everything, not

934
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,920
just women's basketball. Certainly looking forward to the matchup with

935
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,519
Duke coming up, looking forward to the matchup you got

936
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:46,719
in uh gosh, I guess it's coming up in less

937
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,960
than two weeks against Louisiana tagged down in New Orleans.

938
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,480
Looking forward to being in the number there as well,

939
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,000
a lot of exciting matchups coming up. And we always

940
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,440
and hey, it's not just lip service, coach. Our favorite

941
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,239
interview of the week, you guys behavior.

942
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 5: Said, and if you need help getting Lane on air,

943
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,599
call me and I'll have to go meet him and

944
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introduce myself and say, MANE need to come with me.

945
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You got a couple old football players that think they're

946
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still in shape and some place for you. But back

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in their heyday, back in their heyday, buddy, they.

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Speaker 2: Could go, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: I used to be somebody, for sure, no doubt about now.

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I pulled my hamstring thinking about running full speed. So coach,

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we appreciate it so much.

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Speaker 2: God be good you as well. LSU head coach Kim Moulke,

953
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I mean incredible insight, not just basketball. I mean obviously

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our teams also, and they're scoring one hundred points per game.

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They won last time out one twelve to thirty five.

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Speaker 3: So you know, we appreciate the basketball inside, the best

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basketball mine around, but just into life, into the coaching world,

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into all things LSU.

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Speaker 2: That was fantastic. All right, we'll take a break.

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Speaker 3: I know we're long for more OTB when we come

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back live from the Raisin King studio, Off.

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Speaker 1: The bench, from the locker room to the airwaves. Gets

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off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in OTB.

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Speaker 3: Real quick here in this segment, before we get to

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our number three, Billy Lucci is reporting, and of course

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Billy Luci textags has everything Texas A and M covered.

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He is confirming a report out of Manhattan, Kansas that

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Texas A and M offensive coordinator Colin Klein is to

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take over for retiring Kansas State head coach Chris Kleman.

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Kleine obviously played at Kansas State and this is the

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only place I'm seeing it. But if Luci has it,

973
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unless he got hacked, Lochi knows everything Texas A and M.

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Speaker 2: So let's say reports info way guy do is Holland.

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Speaker 3: Kline two K State Chris Kleiman is not somebody that

976
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I thought was retiring. But as the Aggies get ready

977
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for a playoff run, it feels like big news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel like big news. But if.

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Speaker 4: If Weiss can do it, he can certainly do it.

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He can probably still coach coordinate for that team if

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they get in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll get to the wise part of him

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going back to Oxford here Coach Molke talking about it.

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We'll get into.

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