Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly
video game show here at Geek. First, I'm your host
dlan Mus and I have with me is that jokester
or is a jockster?
Speaker 2: I want it to be whatever you want it to be,
because I noticed I misspelt it halfway through and I'm like,
I go.
Speaker 1: Joster, then I prefer jockst. I don't know what that
means then, and I want.
Speaker 2: To miss my name. It doesn't have to mean anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, Well, thank you for joining me here
on a side quest. We have a fun episode here.
We're just gonna be talking about the games we've been playing,
and I have a couple fun little tangents we can
go on. So it should be a nice, laid back
sort of episode. Just one quick show out here. I'll
do some other shows later. But I released a second
episode of side Quest last week, a spoiler cast on
Claire Obscure Expedition thirty three, because I've now done that game.
So if you wanted to hear more discussion on that,
go check out that episode. It was like hour twenty
of just more all about that game. So it's it's
an amazing game. You need to play it at some
point in your life, Kirkland.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've only heard good things. I feel like
that's been kind of a sleeper, sleeper Game of the
Year contender. I don't know if it's too early to
say that, but that's kind of the buzz I've been
hearing in my speak, realms.
Speaker 1: Whatever, my I would wager that there's a lot of
unknowns in the second half of the year. You know,
SGFF and Xbox Showcase and all this stuff is coming
up soon. We're going to get a bunch of more announcements,
probably some other switch to games and so yeah, I
feel like there'll be some over heavy, heavy hitters. But
right now, I feel like, if if all stays course,
exhibition is cruising that Game of the Year at the
Game Wards at the very least.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, Sorry, my camera's been buggy. I
wasn't ready for that image though. That definitely wasn't me
that that set that image.
Speaker 1: Who changed the Dexter had to have.
Speaker 2: Been That had to have been Travis. That had to
have been Travis.
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. I was not ready for that.
Speaker 2: I was not ready for that.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some video games, Kirkland. One of our
mutual mutually favorite games came out a couple of years
ago by the name of Sea of Stars. It was
my my game of the year in twenty twenty three.
I don't think you ever finished it, because if you did,
we would have talked more spoilers about some of the crazy.
Speaker 2: Got taken off of the PlayStation catalog. So I was
just like down there, but I want to finish it
because it was fantastic. I love that.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, now if you do, there's even a
little bit more for you to do now because just
last week, the DLC Throws of the Watchmaker released for
the game. It's a free add on, so you know,
you don't have to pay any extra for it. And
I think the game's on sale right now in honor
of the DLC being out too, So a good time
for people to pick it up or you know, in
your case, you know, pick it up again and finish
through it. So this is like, this is postgame content.
It's weirdly not like a It's not like an epilogu
or anything. It doesn't necessarily follow the events at the
end of the story, but you can only access it
once you've rolled credits on the game. You don't have
to get like the secret ending all that stuff, just
beat the game once and then you can access it,
which is something I'm curious about because I feel like
it's it's very sequestered, like the skills and like the
leveling up is very much like just in its own
little realm doesn't really tie back into the main game.
It's not like you're going into the l to see
getting some crazy weapon bringing it back to the main
game or vice versa. So I don't know why they
made it postgame stuff. I guess this is mostly a
treat for people like me who are absolutely in love
with the game will want to come back to it,
and I guess, like for you, there's no reason why
you shouldn't just like beat the main game first, I guess,
and then come to this. But it was kind of
odd because it is it is completely separate from the
main game. It took me about eight hours to do it,
and that was like one hundred percent completion of it,
so it's not huge like I think the base game
was like maybe forty forty five hours or something to do,
Like I think I got mostly one hundred percent completion
ninety nine percent probably something like that. So you know,
another like a fifth of the game I guess just
kind of chucked out here for free, which is pretty cool.
And you know, part of this and it being postgame
content is that they wanted to make it pretty difficult,
and it is you know, both puzzles and combat wise.
It's like a good challenge at certain parts and all that.
But yeah, I had a great time with it. It's
it's it's you know, it's more c of stars, but
it's it's really great. It mixes in here really well.
It kind of fits. It's i'd say it's more silly,
and there is you know, some darker stuff in it,
like a little more dive into some of the characters
backstory and some of their insecurities and like almost like
putting them on display, which is interesting. But it is
like very silly, even more so compared to like what
the base game is, which has like jokes and stuff,
but I think isn't primarily comedy. But this is like
the setting, it's a weird theme. It's like a mixture
of like just the gears from like steampunk kind of
aesthetic stuff and like a circus, so it's like gear
steam punky circus, which I don't think I've ever seen
those two things click together before, but actually works perfectly.
It's like a really fun aesthetic thing. And obviously because
you have like a circus and goofy jokester jockstre type characters,
you know, you get a lot of goofy bits, really
funny dial like I found, like particularly compared to the
Bass Game, even like just the writing team just seems
like they're having so much fun here, funny little puns
or just like things that made me laugh throughout it,
and then like physical gags too, and even just you know,
changing I forget what Valier like the blue Moon moonman care,
I forget what her base attack is because she just
like uses her baton, right, and I forget what they
call it if they just call it physical, but in
this they just like call it bonk, and now it's
just like a different type of it's like a different
type of attack. And then you use like break break,
you know, the combos and whatnot. So yeah, they're really
leaning into like the goofiness of it, and like even
all all the special combos are like way more goofy
than they were in the Bass Game. So yeah, it's
it's super fun. I can't recommend it enough and it's free,
So what are you gonna do when not play it?
Like it's it's it's a really great add onto this
already almost perfect game.
Speaker 2: That's so interesting, like the way that you're describing it,
and especially just comparing to like the circus vibe, it
feels like the whole DLC is like a circus coming
through the game, and it's just it's goofy. It's fun.
It's uh like maybe less serious, like you said, like
it's it's more like lighter, I guess than like like
the main game isn't like super super dark, but I
feel like you're you're following like the main story, and
in that regard it it's kind of like a more
serious adventure, just because I think there's trails and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1: The game gets pretty dark in the second half, I'll say,
like it goes to some places, whether it's like individual
characters in their backstores and stuff like that. But just
I still don't want to spoil because I know someday
you probably will finish this game, and I'm excited to
talk to you about some of those story beats and things.
But yeah, the game does get pretty dark, but this,
you know, it has a little bit of darkness in there,
but the stakes feel much smaller, which is good because
it is like this, you know, smaller little dlc add
on there. So, as I mentioned, like it is kind
of completely sequestered. The way it works is you go in.
It's like there's the clockmaker is a character or watchmaker.
Afraid if it's clockmaker or watchmaker, one of the two.
It makes clocks, makes watches, which you know you make,
you make one, you make the other to some extent.
But anyway you go. It's almost like a pickman or
like a minish cap situation where you like shrink down
and like go inside the world of this clock that
she had created, and then like the whole thing is
like set. You know, that's that's the setting of it there.
But for this you enter as Valier and Zail, like
the two protagonists of the game, the the what do
they call them, freaking the Sun Twins, not the Sun Twins,
the Solstice Twins. There you go, Yeah, you enter as
the Solstice Twins, leaving the rest of the party behind
like no one else comes into this. And then they
add a third character, who's actually from the Bass game
as well, but they like promote this character to playable status.
I'm just gonna go I'm sorry, yes, I'm gonna walk past.
Keeps out. You bring in a character who is not
playable from the main game, but it was like a
part of the story, particularly in the second half. So
that's fun to get like a character promoted to playable status.
But with and obviously that so that new character gets
like a fully new move set. But what they've done
too is like with with Zail and Valier, they've taken
their move sets and given they've given them completely new
move sets. They have completely new stats, as I mentioned,
they have completely new attacks. Their look is even different.
Like Valier is like just literally doing a handstand at
all times during combat, you know, just like an acrobat
in the circus. So she's always doing a handstand. Then
she like does her combos out of that. And then uh, Zail,
he's he's like a juggler, and he's like juggling like
fire sticks or whatever, and so you know, it's kind
of slightly tied to like what their you know, original
versions were like and the Moon attacks and the Sun attacks.
But then yeah, they get like a fully new move set,
so completely new abilities to kind of get the timings
down of and the different like attributes that they do.
And then because of that you get new fully new
combo attacks that they when they mix together, you remember,
you can like combo certain characters at a time and
do like a bigger, bigger power attack. So that's all great.
It feels pretty much like you're getting three new characters
worth of move sets, even if two of them are
you know, characters from the Basekin that are getting like
a new class. But of course, once again, like link
really leaning into that comedy, which like in one of
the characters that you're getting in there, he like shoots
out cannons into the air and then he had he
walks around with like a giant trampoline and so it
like bounces off the enemy and then it just flies
somewhere on the map. So you gotta like frantically run
like almost like an overcooked way like run around. Yeah,
like put the trampoline under the cannonballs that it bounces
back and hits the opponent. And then in the see
of Star's way, it gets harder and harder and faster
and faster, so that I was a super fund ability,
and you know one of Zail's is like he starts
juggling and then he like starts juggling like bouncing it
off the opponent, and then you get the timing down
you know, like the rhythm game sort of thing, deal
a bunch of bonus damage. So yeah, it really leans
into that silliness of it with all the move sets
as well. Uh and all those new abilities were like
super fun. So yeah, I really liked all that stuff.
And then I think, you know one thing that I criticized,
like a lot of games like this, like I feel
like the new God of war games, People including me,
are like, man, fuck these puzzles. This is just a
waste of time, like just slows the game down. These
aren't fun or interesting puzzles. They just get in the way.
And there's a lot of games that do that. And
I think I just once again, I probably did highlight
this back when see who starts coming out, Like, the
puzzles in this game are to me as interesting as
the combat. They're really well designed, they're really fun. They
really like eat up a huge chunk of space and
you're really solving this like big thing you're using movement
abilities to get around the place, and it's I don't know,
I do. I feel like it's a highlight of this
game too. And then the puzzles don't just feel like
fillered away time, but instead they're like just as interesting
as the combat system. And so the puzzles in here
are like top notch as well, some of the best
in the whole game. I think the combat just in
the base game says you have more characters, maybe a
couple more abilities, that kind of thing. It's like probably
has a little more depth overall. But since this is
like here's just like eight hours of using these abilities
and getting new unlocks and stuff, it kind of works
in that way. And like you all your equipment too,
is like completely new for this DLC, and you know
you're leveling up those tiers of things. Oh and I
got new weapon, I got new ring, and that stuff
doesn't come back with you to the main game as well,
so it's all very balanced for this which is once
again why I feel like it's a bit weird that
it's specifically postgame content. You can't access it earlier, Like
it feels like they could have like tuned the stats
so it like depending on what level you are, you know,
that kind of stuff. We'll just I don't know.
Speaker 2: Especially that you don't pull any other characters in, like
characters that you meet later in the chapters. That's kind
of bizarre in that regards, and.
Speaker 1: Like you never use the same abilities that you had
in like in the Bass game. Yeaheah, So kind of
an interesting choice, but you know, it's it's it's fine,
you know. Another highlight of course for me is like
one of my favorite games within games is Wheels. They're
like the bar game across the map that you do
multiple times here, and so for this it's it's the
same game, but they have one new piece in there,
and then there's like four new champions in the town
in this little circus town and then one elsewhere that
you can battle. And so just having more Wheels is
always a benefit, you know, a bonus for me because
I just I spent so much, so many hours figuring
out that game and having such a great time with it.
Speaker 2: I I definitely gave up on Wheels. I feel like
I gave like one good go, like did a couple
of games, and then I just it just didn't click
with me right away, and I was just so interested
in like continuing on the story that I just I
just left wheels behind. I'm like, yeah, maybe one day
mini games. I feel like it's fifty to fifty coin
toss on if I really like latch onto the mini
game into it, like like Gwent Gwent wrote me in. Yeah,
like like you know, just just the different games, adventure
games like that, like even Red Dead two. I remember
Red Dead one. I played so much of the poker, Like,
I just spent so much time with Red Dead two,
the first game. Yeah, I played a lot of it,
but I'm like, I just want to continue on with
this story, so I don't really have time for that.
But yeah, it's usually hit or missed with me with
those little mini games within games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, it was so it was great high
they had more in there. You know. It was just
one new piece and like all the champions use that
piece mixed with another one, so it just you know,
a little bit more variety, a little bit more to
do there. I wonder, actually, no, I think about it.
I wonder if that's something that you can carry back
to the main game, that new piece, because you get
it as well and you can use it in your
move set and you can put it on your board
when you have unlocked it. I wonder if you can
bring that back into the main game and like use
that piece, because that would seem like something that's pretty
balanced still, maybe even if your opponents can't use it.
But every game is like you're not using every piece,
you're just using two of the like six or seven
that are available. So yeah, I wonder if that's the thing.
I will say this game it crashed a couple times,
and I had a soft lock as well, which I
don't remember the base game having any bugs, and I
played it at launch as well, like I am this,
so I don't know there's a little bit less playtesting
that happened there. I'm not sure, but yeah, I kind
of kind of weird for that to happen. Never really
lost any progress. The game auto saves pretty often, right,
so it wasn't a big deal. But I definitely saw
someone on a couple of people in the REDIT talking
about how they're like deep in a boss fight and
then the game like crashed at some point. That would be,
you know, really disheartening if because some of the boss
fights are freaking hard as hell, So if I was
like deep in one spent ten minutes battling them, and
then the game just crashed. That would be super frustrating,
so be careful of that. I'm sure it'll get patched
pretty quick because it's pretty small, you know DLC overall,
So hope they fix that stuff up. And I think
all of it's like happens in combat usually, so hopefully
they can at least target that down one of the
bosses I wanted to highlight that. I just it's hard
to even describe, but you know, it's you. You You're
your team of three up against one guy, and it's
it's a really complicated system. There's there's like five mirrors
behind him that are kind of like alternating coming up
and down, and then there's like a spotlight or two
that like shine on these different mirrors, and then there's
like a box on the right side of the map,
and at any point you can hit the box instead of
the boss, and then it will like shift where the
spotlights are, and if at any point the spotlights are
in the same spot as a mirror, the boss can
go there and then like charge up a really really
really really powerful attack. And so it became this like
really fun minigame of keeping track of like, kay, I
got to hit this spotlight and I got to hit
it like specific, I gotta make sure I get my
timey down to hit it twice to get the spotlight
out of this way, or just put it where there's
no mirror at all. And then as the fight goes
on and on, like he has just more mirrors up
at all given times, and then like an additional spotlight,
and then he has like, yeah, some like goofy little
sidekick worm tongue type who like comes in every once
in a while and like turns the dial so like
even though you've planned it perfectly, you know, he just
kind of rotates it again. So that boss fight was
really cool, just such a weird design. It took me
a few tries because like the first try or two
I was like, I don't even know what the hell
is going on with this boss fight. But eventually you
really have to maximize that, and I feel like a
lot of the time, it's like really easy to tunnel
vision and be like I'm just gonna put all my
whenever I have a turn, I'm putting all my damage
into the boss. But in this one, you really had
to be careful of the counter attacks because yeah, he
just does so much damage. And then I don't want
to spoil the final boss but it was amazing. It
was super cool. Thematically, visual element of it was really
really great, So big shout out to that, just for
anyone who has played it, you'll know how how cool
that boss fight is. And what else did I want
to shout out here? Oh yeah, another funny thing is Zail.
He has a heel in this where he just takes
a pie and throws it at a teammate, you know,
very classic comedy thing. But if you do that on himself,
he like frisbees it. Like he'll throw the pie out
in front of him and then just like gravity's back
and smacks him in the face, which is just so
stupid and fun. So you know, there's so many dumb
little gags in here that were that were really great.
So yeah, I can't say enough good things about this
dealc was super duper fun. I don't know if it
like makes me like Steve Stars more overall than I
did previously, because I already loved that game so freaking
much and I have like no issues with it whatsoever.
So it's just more of a good thing. But yeah,
super duper good time. And then I think the last
thing with this is I had a bit of a
realization when I was playing through this, so I'm like, man,
I think this is probably the last game I'll ever
play on my Switch one because the Switch two is
coming out a few days. Probably not playing anything else
on this, I'm probably gonna sell this switch and just
you know, have the switch to no reason to have
both for me, And so this is perfect because that,
you know, when when I played Safe Stars back when
it came out, it took me like a month or
two to beat the game, and not that even though
it was super duper long forty four to five hours,
not atrocious for an RPG, but it was just like
a comfort game. And I was like, I don't want
this game to end. I'm just gonna play a little
bits at a time, you know, played a few times
a week for a little bit, and just like it
just lasted for a long time and it was such
a comforting game to always come back to, even if
at times it's like super difficult, but it was just
such a nice world, happy world, beautiful pixelar and amazing music.
And all that stuff, and so it's just nice to
have that again for like a week here, even though
there's so much shorter amount of time than the Bass
game was. But man, just being back in that world
was such a joy. So yeah, it was. It was
kind of a fun way to sunset the Nintendo Switch
for me as well, because that was definitely one of
my favorite games that I played on this console, even
though it wasn't exclusive or anything like that, but it
was definitely one of my favorite things that I played
on this thing over the last two years.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, that's, uh, we're poor one out for the
Switch one. That's it's a good game to end off
on at least. Yeah no, that's you're just selling me
on wanting to get this game again. So it's bastard.
I'm trying not to buy games right now, but I'm
definitely wanting to get in there on everything. You just
you just but I mean, the base game already is
is just so much content and it's so awesome that
they just released this for free. Yeah, and and made
it feel different and like to the side, like adjacent
to to what the main game is. It's it is
a little bit like puzzling, like why you can't just
access it from the get go, But also yeah, like
where I'm at, I I just want to focus kind
of on on where I left off with the story.
Speaker 1: So well, yeah, one more. Obviously I did mention it
is on sale right now, so good time to pick
it up if you do. But I yeah, I know
we talked about this at some point that they did
add co op at some point, So I don't know
if this would be did you play with after you
were done playing the game.
Speaker 2: Watching me play it? And she was definitely interested, So yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe so there you go. Maybe another incentive to pick
this up. It could be a good co op.
Speaker 2: I sell her on a game that's like we're getting
that no hesitation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, So yeah, maybe looking at that, because
that would be I'd love to hear because I I'm
super curious how the co op would work at all,
Like I don't.
Speaker 2: Can you just someone doing like the like the actual
like action, Like how if you're controlling whoever's Zale or
or Vilier, maybe just both of them like have an
opportunity to kind of do Yeah, but like does that
person also in the world at the same time, Like
I imagined you have to be in the same area, So
I don't know how.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of problems you could cheese
if you had two playable characters, so I wonder, I
don't know, I'm really curious how it works. I also
I was wondering when I was playing this, if you
could play Wheels against uh. I think you can, because
I think I noticed that when I went up and
was doing that, like just in the bars, and one
of the had like a new option that was like
you know, uh, competitive game or co op co op
game or what, I don't whatever the wording was that
made it seem like that was it was right out,
So I imagine that was like for multiplayer. I was like, man,
we should like throw that in there for Gaallet. I'd
love to see you, Travis and Taylor just like so
confused playing Wheels, trying to figure out what the hell
is going on here, So that could be a funny
game to throw in the mix there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was gonna say, I'm not playing you.
I'm not I'm not playing you in Wheels.
Speaker 1: I would dominate. I think, yeah, I'm pretty good at
this point, but it's not a you know it's it's
a knowledge based game, not a skill based game. You know,
not that that would make it easier, but just you know,
it could be could be fun to see different strategies.
I'm sure there's something. I'm a big archer guy. I
love using an archer and then I like switch out
my second one. But yeah, I don't know. I'm sure
everyone have their different preferences and all that. All right,
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them Being Stellar, blades so that that's crazy timing BECAUSE
I i did A i'm sorry. Completion, yeah SO i
was raving about the game the first TIME i jumped
into it, earlier at some point in this life that is.
OURS i can't remember this specific, time but, yeah, NO
I i love that. GAME i love, yes AND i,
YEAH i was just so impressed by how Like TRIPLE
a the game scene for a studio THAT i believe
has only done like mobile games before, That so it
was it was just such a feat in that. Regard
BUT i just got so hooked in the. Combat there's
very different like sequencing on on the mechanics and, everything
and when you just put in a lot of, time
it's just really rewarding to to beat, bosses AND i
like a fool bit off a little bit too much
THAN i could. Chew And i'm, Like i'm gonna get
the platinum first play through in this, game and like
the MORE i dug into, it it's like it's a
very much a game that you have to beat multiple
times to like the like there's different endings based on
like how it, goes And i'm, like, Easy i'm just
gonna like really strategically get saves. In i'm gonna follow a,
guide and like it was going pretty well UNTIL i
got to a point that it's basically a point no
return and you have to like do all these collectibles
before you advance the main. Story otherwise you know minor,
spoilers a certain area gets bombed and you're never gonna
be able to go back there and it's and So i'm, like,
OKAY i was flying through the. STORY i WAS i
was like getting all the collectibles at a really good
pace As i'm going, along AND i got to this
point and there's just some bullshit side quests you have to,
do and there is some things THAT i really grew
to hate about the. Game it's it's like it doesn't
affect the overall score of the, game but like just
the specific like side questing WHERE i have to go
to certain, areas and when you go to certain, areas
it's not like you're just free, Roaming like it's kind
of like you're replaying a certain, level so you start
at the back and there's no map on those levels
for some, reason just certain areas there's just no map
to pull, up and if you're looking for like a specific,
item you're just it's such a shit. Show it's basically
you have to follow like a YouTube walkthrough to to
like even find. Them AND i, WAS i was so
stun a.
Speaker 1: Bad achievement list or trophy. List if it's like that
kind of annoying, stuff you, KNOW i think whatever was
Ghosts ashimi, did that's so? Great where it's like get
like half the collectibles and then we're we're happy enough with.
That AND i feel like certain games need to do
things like that or you, know usually it's like complete
all the, quests but sometimes some of these quests should
not be on that achievement thing in my, opinion.
Speaker 2: And like you, know to Place Devil's advocates to that same,
POINT i feel like it is still unique when games
do have different, indings AND i think that you, like
it's okay to have trophies for different, indings like it's
the good ending or the bad thing Like, dishonored great, example,
right beat the game clean. Hands you feel good when
you get. That so when you get that, achievement Like
i'm pretty sure that was the last ACHIEVEMENT i got
WHEN i like completed the First dishonored, Game so it
was just it felt really. GOOD i had to play
the game multiple different. Times but like you, said with the,
COLLECTIBLES i think that's that's one maybe we can shave
off maybe not one hundred percent of, them and like
this one has like ninety nine cans that you have to,
catch and you, know just like many different things like.
That SO i just bit the. Bullet i'm, Like i'm
never gonna get. THIS i don't know Why i've made
this this limitter on, myself especially being a near thirty
year old, Gamer, LIKE i just don't have time for
this shit. Anymore could you.
Speaker 1: Not have a make a save rate at the point
of no return and then, GO i guess it's you're,
saying it's not like the end of the. Game it's
just it just.
Speaker 2: It's like halfway through the, game like it like it's
like a big story shift AND i am past that point,
now you, know to spoil my own my own long
winded story. Here, uh you can't just make a save
point though in the. Game it's very much LIKE i
can save my, progress BUT i can't just reload like
a past. Progress it's just like save the game and an.
Exit so the workaround THAT i was finding on this
guy THAT i was reading online is like essentially you
have to make like a cloud save in that, location
which you do like through PlayStation. Network and they's just
getting too, complicated you. Know it's it's like this is too.
MUCH i don't know Why i'm doing. This this is so.
RIDICULOUS i don't know WHY i do myself but, anyways
jump back in there playing the, game having a good,
time and it's so funny because WHERE i was in
the story without spoiling, anything it's just it's like a.
Dungeon but to enter the, dungeon it's a boss, fight
and that's literally WHERE i was, At like that's WHERE i.
Stopped So i'm, like, hey this is Where I'm i'm
gonna go do all these. Collectibles SO i jump back
in the. Game i'm, like fuck the, Collectibles i'm going in.
There i'm gonna experience the. STORY i see the first
cut Scene i've seen in months BECAUSE i just haven't
been playing the. Story get into the first boss, FIGHT
i get bopped so, hard like like literally it's like
it's Like i'm super under leveled in like A soul's,
game And i'm just getting one shot by these. Enemies
and it's not like they're just one hitting. Me it's
just they're like parrying every attack That i'm throwing at
them and just like like like humbling. Me LIKE i
feel Like i'm playing A PvP game And i'm just
in a completely different skill bracket to this play like
there's bopping. Me it was it was kind of funny
because LIKE i was trying to relearn the mechanics during
this boss fight When i'm, like this is so, Stupid
LIKE i should just go fight some. Mobs get used
to the controls, again like actually pull up like the
control AND i did, that AND, i you, know put
a couple hours in and then went back there and
and popped, off and it was just as satisfying AS
i remember it being the. FIGHTS i completely forgot that
you even have a weapon like in, that like you
have like a like a range weapon like you do
in The near. Games completely forgot about the mechanic UNTIL
i got into the, dungeon because when you get in the,
dungeon for some story, reason you can't use your melee
weapon at, all so you're just like in the, dungeons
it's only arranged weapon. Sequence AND i just didn't know
WHY i couldn't attack. ANYTHING i was dying to. Moms it.
Was it was a kind of a funny like relearning
of the, game especially jumping in at this like point
and no return. Point but, yeah, No i'm so glad
to jump back in there because this game is is
just so. PHENOMENAL i think BECAUSE i took a little
bit of a. Hiatus it was like fresh again jumping in.
There so, yeah, No i've been having lots of fun
And i've accepted That i'm not going to collect. Everything you,
know there's a lot in. There i've already collected a,
lot AND i kind of forgot a lot of the.
Story SO i am pretty, confused like like any of
these like Strange eastern, games like the stories just don't
make sense at the, time like an, anime it's just
there's crazy stuff going, on and to jump in like halfway,
Through i'm, like oh, GOSH i don't know who this character.
Is this character has betrayed. ME i don't even remember
who they. Are but they're like someone that popped in
the early. Chapters so it's kind of a funny funny thing.
There but, uh sorry to take your your wind away
from your your news you're about to drop. There BUT
i Am i'm peaked. Now you peaked my interest on
This Stellar blade.
Speaker 1: NEWS i, HONEST i have no more information THAT i
just saw that there was a sequel that was announced.
Speaker 2: That was just to lead you into your.
Speaker 1: NEWS i, MEAN i don't think there's much because the
game just came out last. Year, Right so it's not
it's not like they're deep in the.
Speaker 2: Which is like something pretty. Minor but, YEAH i, think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: They have like the crossover DLCs like they did The Near,
one they did the Nie k or whatever that whatever
that series is that it's like a horny mobile game
that of.
Speaker 2: Course, yeah it's the. Genre it's the.
Speaker 1: Genre it's, perfect it's. Perfect but, yeah the game just
went just launch ON pc NOW i believe or it's
coming out very, soon and SO i think that was
like a second win for the, game and it's sold
really well. Originally i'm sure it's going to sell even
like bigger numbers ON. Pc that seems like a, good
uh you know kind of community for that sort of. Game.
Uh so, YEAH i think they just like pretty much, like,
hey we made bank on this, game and we're officially
rolling out a. Sequel SO i think that's. Cool it
gets the excitement. Up And i'm sure even with THE
pc launch, too that gets people like who are on
the fence of being, like, Oh i'm gonna pick this
up now BECAUSE i know there's another game coming and you,
know it's a, good, good good time to pick it
up sort of. Thing BUT i, know since you haven't
beaten the game, yet maybe it's hard to say, this
BUT i was just gonna ask if there's anything that
comes to. Mind you'd be, like, Oh i'm really excited
for this in a, sequel OR i want them to change,
this or LIKE i imagine they'll stick with the same.
CHARACTER i assume she doesn't die at the, end BUT
i don't, know maybe she. Does but, YEAH i am
at like even the story, wise like based on where you're,
At like do you can you already like foresee what
a sequel thing could be or OR i don't. Know
is it kind of just a mystery at this.
Speaker 2: POINT i think the world is set up in such
a good way with like like attaching what the world,
is who the factions, are and then like tying that
into the. Gameplay LIKE i can see that like making
a franchise out of, that, honestly like like it is unique.
ENOUGH i think every game you can kind of evolve on,
it like like a step up on this enemy, type
like it's a familiar looking. ENEMY i imagine like The
horizon Zero dawn kind of the similar thing where you
might be seeing like a similar type of. ANIMAL i don't.
Know if they're called, that but like just an evolution of.
It maybe you're in a completely different. Range Maybe i'm
speaking on my wheelhouse, here but JUST i feel like
you can see the natural progression of what they could,
do maybe different customization with the specific, weapon because you
kind of get like little upgrades to your damage, numbers
but not necessarily the weapon. Itself and it is very
much like the character that you're, Playing like you don't
customize your, character so it they like make sense what
you have what you, have and in terms of like the,
CHARACTER i can see it going either. Way of, Course
i'm you, know asterisk next to, it BECAUSE i haven't
beaten the. GAME i haven't seen like my main character
Of eve, die BUT i also Like eve is one
of many different types of android type, characters SO i
could also see a new character come into. PLAY i Like.
EVE i think she's a fun, protagonist but like she's
also pretty bland and blank blank. Yeah. Yeah it's just
like a lot of stuff's happening around her and she's,
like oh my, goodness this is so, horrible and she
she just seems kind of, airheady but like she also
kind of is because she's just A War android and
like she doesn't really know how the world, works SO
i guess it kind of works in that. Sense so,
HONESTLY i could see it going either. Way but in
terms of a, SEQUEL i think that's a exciting news
because the game is really fun for me to, play
AND i can see it happening in just the natural,
progression even to the extent of fixing some quality of
life issues THAT i already have With LIKE i, said
like when you go back to certain, levels you just
can't pull up your, Map, like what the fuck is?
This this is like A ps two games doesn't make any.
Speaker 1: Sense, Yeah exhibition thirty three has that. Too, yeah it
seems like the thing that's kind of lower on the
priority list for some of these. Developers but, yeah it's
a nice. Thing like some people struggle with that a
lot more than other people, Too SO i feel, LIKE
i don't, know maybe just the developers who are like
in charge of that stuff are, like, oh this, Map
i've walked through it three thousand. Times it's easy to n.
Advocate but if you just go through it once or,
twice or if like in your, case you're not going
through the same, areas super duper a ton of, times,
right it sounds like, yeah, no it's just like going
back there for. Collectibles so it's, LIKE i don't, know
maybe it's like why would we need a? Map but
then when you're doing the, collectibles it is nice to
have that kind of.
Speaker 2: Thing it's, Tricky, yeah, no. Absolutely and another COMPARISON i
would make is the progression Of neo one To neo.
TWO i played a little bit Of neo two just
kind of feel to see what they. Change and a
big mechanic In neo is you get these like spirit
guardians that are with you through the whole. Game you
can kind of choose which ones you have through different
animals more or, less and you basically get this like
bar that you can use and it just like transforms
your weapon into like a spirit. Weapon and then From neo,
two they made it so like your character just becomes
like a. Demon it's just like an evolution of that same,
mechanic but it's just like way, bigger AND i can
see a similar thing kind of happening in if they
want to go that route with With Stellar, blake because there's
a story reason for Whire care essentially has like a
super sayan type mode and it's very, temporary AND i
could see them just in an anime, sense just, like
how can we make this crazier and even even more you,
know exciting and visually, Pleasing LIKE i could see them.
Going it's just there's so many little AVENUES i can
see that they improve, it whether it's it's even just
like the free roaming around the sandboxy, areas because like all,
these you, know again like an anime type game where
there's A, jrpg there's a fishing aspect to. IT i
never participated in. IT i did a little bit WHEN
i was trying to get the, collectibles but it's not
within a.
Speaker 1: Game is there like a bar? Game in this card, game.
Speaker 2: There's little arcade games that you can. FIND i don't
really interact with, those SO i can't even remember really
if it's just like you interact with it and then
like that's, it or if there's actually a little minigame to.
It there is little mini games in, it but like
some of them are side quest y sort of. Situation
SO i don't know if i'd call it like A wheels,
comparison for, example but why not add that in? There
add that To Stellar blade Too Wheels Stellar.
Speaker 1: Blade that's a cross that's CROSSOVER i.
Speaker 2: Want with the pixel art and, everything it just totally
shifts that could be, fun pretty. Meta so, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 1: This is this is cool. News. Yeah, sorry going back
to what you were saying About neo And neo. Too
when you do the, transformation, like is that you go
into like a bear form and like have a new
move set or is it just like you turn into
a bear and like do like a one kind of
set animation.
Speaker 2: Attack, no you like, Turn so you're they're Called oh my,
gosh what are they. Called it's, Wow it's it's like
a yo TAI i, think is what they're. Called it's
essentially just a demon In. Japan, YEAH i know. That
that's Why i'm second guessing. It it's something along those those.
Lines but, yeah essentially it's just like a jab like
if you see like an old Feudal japan like painting
and then you just see like the image of a.
Demon how they have like the crazy. Face oh, yeah
like like those are like big enemies in the, game
and then in the second game you can choose kind
of LIKE i didn't get that, far SO i don't
know if it works the same The Spirit guardian, sense
where you like collect them and then you get a
like be a different. Form BUT i just remember at
the start of the game you kind of choose like
a different variation of. Them so you can choose like a,
big heavy kind of like demon that you'll just turn
into and your character literally turns into, it and you
still have like a weapon that you're, using like you're
not just going full be still, mode at least from
WHAT i, remember or at least that was the version
of the demon THAT i. Chose like the ONE i
chose was really nimble and and BECAUSE i use like quick,
weapons so you could just kind of like bounce around
and just do crazy attacks and you're just you're just
hitting way harder and like flame imbued, attacks and, yeah
so it's it's. Awesome it's. Awesome that's.
Speaker 1: Great. Uh, well speaking of games within, games you Said
Red dead one of your favorite games with the Games,
poker another game that has poker in, it by the
name Of, balatro tell.
Speaker 2: Me About, YES i have been waiting so long to
play on this. Game you were raving about. It friends
in different like social, circles maybe just PEOPLE i, LIKE
i play LIKE i work with, it LIKE i don't
like they probably play, games but they know they're. Not
just like talking about video games all the. Time they're, like,
man have you heard this? Game Blotro Like i'm just.
Hooked i'm, like, Yeah i've heard about. It it's it's.
Amazing everyone's been telling about. It Patron, tyler he's been
going hard on the, loatro he's got it on the.
Phone and it got added to the Monthly games a,
PlayStation which just it was.
Speaker 1: LIKE i think it's a game pass right now. Too actually.
Speaker 2: Nice, yeah so it was like a Little christmas present.
THERE i finally got the chance to jump in, there and,
YEAH i got so hooked for like the first three.
HOURS i Think i'm playing this. GAME I i understand it.
Now at, FIRST i was like a little bit stand.
Office i'm, like this is, It like this is really
the game until you get like a really good joker
pull or, something and then all of a, sudden those
numbers are just like MULTI i guess it's the same
thing with like All Rogue light. Games you, know you
just get that one good run going and you're you're just.
Hooked MAYBE i understand gambling, Now LIKE i felt like
just A vegas. Fiend i'm, like oh my, god Like
i'm going all the. Way this is so. Huge i'm
like defeating that the blinds in one hand because of
my multiple pliers are just are just getting up. There
and THEN i get one rotation and it's just horrible
and it just it just ends my whole. RUN i
haven't gotten like to the end, yet so like that's
SO i feel Like i'm still really early. ON i
actually got it on the phone now Because shane AND
i were just on a trip AND I tyler convinced
me if it's just a fantastic mobile, game and, yeah,
No i've been having lots of lots of fun with that.
One like The, blueprints, THOUGH i feel like there's many
times where Like i'll just get in like a hot
streak And i'm, like holy, crap LIKE i just feel
LIKE i can't be, defeated and then LIKE i just,
said like like, yeah it just doesn't go. Well maybe
maybe LIKE i start a new run AND i just
don't pull like any or MAYBE i make some poor
decisions AND i just end like really really early. On
SO i haven't found like my my perfect flow of
just like consistency for. It But i've been trying some different.
STRATEGIES i feel LIKE i definitely was relying on like
the same poker. Hands it's done a good job at
teaching me poker a little bit. BETTER i think you
were speaking to that at least identifying what the hands.
Are but, YEAH i definitely find myself like like IF
i find like a straight joker that like multiplies like
a straight or like just CERTAIN i mean it's so,
dependent LIKE i can't really choose which Ones i'm gonna,
gets just the ones that pop up in the shot the.
Shop but, lately, yeah IF i see like like a
good straight multiplier for some, Reason i'm Just I'M i
just get good luck with with with some discards and
then it's just like a full straight right in front
of me that maybe has some suits that are giving
me some more multipliers in there as. Well and, yeah
something ELSE i feel LIKE i really don't use enough
is the. CONSUMABLES i find myself a lot of like
in runs WHERE i just don't even have them like at,
all or IF i, do it's like pull a celestial
card and play it right. Away SO i don't even
really have anything in my, consumables that's something that you would,
recommend like really like focusing more on that because you
only have so much money in the. SHOP i just
feel Like i'm gonna max out all my jokers right
away and then and then go from there and then
maybe pull Some celestials cards to. Amplify LIKE i, said
like like just common hands THAT i find self using a.
Lot but, yeah, yeah what are your kind of early.
Strategies i'm SURE i know the game gets, Crazy like,
uh WHEN i was hanging out With, tier he was
playing it like he was definitely like past the end.
Game so he's just doing like you have like millions
of points and, stuff and it's just it's just insane
how how much you can stack those. Multipliers but, yeah
as a new, player you, know, YEAH i MEAN I
I i like.
Speaker 1: With The selestial, CARDS i always like to power up
at least two or like three types of, hands like
as as as a focus generally, speaking because one thing
the game will do is, like for, example let's say
you're doing straights like you know ninety percent of the,
time you, know or you like just your let's say
you have like twenty straights in a run versus you've
only been like a pair like a couple of. Times you,
know you can like go on your screen and see
how many times you.
Speaker 2: Each, you'll, oh you can see.
Speaker 1: That you can when you go in like the run
info and see like what what a full house, is
what a straight, is it'll tell you the number of
times you've done it in this particular, run which is very.
Helpful some jokers like multiply off that kind of. Thing
so it's going to be able to reference that. Information
but you know what the game, does and it's cruel
sometimes because you know each boss blind is like some
de buff or some additional. Challenge often what the game
does is that like is reading what you are doing most,
commonly and then it's saying like you'll get no points for.
Straights so you might get super deep into a, run
but if you've put all your eggs in the straight,
basket then you might get screwed over if you don't
have a way to negate. There there are multiple ways
to remove or change the boss blind right so that
you know there could be a way around, It but
if you don't have one of those things in your back,
pocket you might get screwed. Over SO i think it's for.
ME i like to kind of diverse find have a little,
bit even THOUGH i usually do have a focus of
Like i'm DOING i you, Know i'm trying to thin
my deck to only SO i can get more full
houses and more more pairs and triples and, things or
like maybe you, know just narrowing down my my my
suits So i'm gonna get like flushes at a higher.
Rate but LIKE i probably want to get like a
few different ways THAT i could get a, win because,
yeah sometimes you'll get like a boss blind that's like
you only get one, hand and so you have to
have some monster, combo, right so you got to be
able to like have multiple things going on there as.
Well but also it's nice that you can see the
boss b linds a couple of rounds, out so you
can like kind of prepare for them or try and
like counteract them when they're coming. Up so that's definitely a.
Thing and then, YEAH i THINK i think really getting
a hold of the tarot cards is like a huge
unlock early on to make you just so much better
at the. Game in terms of the money side Of,
fringsight there's two tarot cards that directly give you money
one that just gives you a flat, rate and the
one that gives you like the sell value of all your.
Jokers so a lot of time it's, Like, okay IF
i buy a, tarot like what AM i gonna? Get
you might just get something that gives you the amount
of money right back to, You so it can often
be worth it of just, like WELL i might as
well do this because Then i'll just get a little
bit money or my money, back and THEN i can
like shop more and like look at more things that
are available. There but, yeah and then like the super
duper op one THAT i absolutely love is The, fool
which just duplicates whatever last tarot or planet card that you,
use just dupes that for, you so you get that back.
Again and when you use that with, specifically there's like The,
emperor which just gives you two tarot, cards or like
using that with a money, one you just get two
money ones back to, back and just, like oh NOW
i just have like forty gold all of a, SUDDEN
i can just a ton more things from the, Shop
SO i, think really learn because the tarot card deck
not that. BIG i, mean the planet one's not that big, either,
right you can kind of like you're much quickly gonna
be able to remember what all the tarot cards are
then to remember like what all the jokers, are, right
just because there's so much more, there and so like
really getting a handle of those and using them well
or just selling. Them if it's like only gonna be
a marginal, upgrade it might just be worth it to
sell that for a dollar or, two because maybe that'll
go a lot further for. You BECAUSE i don't know
if you've, noticed this is a month THING i feel
like took me a while to understand is when whenever
you beat a level based on how much money you,
have you earn. Interest so if you have a big,
bank you'll make like a little bit of, money but
if you have like one dollar or zero, dollars you're
not gonna get any bonus. There and then there's other
ways you can increase that interest amount and things like,
that of, course but you also just like want to
have a little bit of money in the, banks so
you're like earning a little bit more at that end
of every level. Too so, yeah and you know other
things like if you beat a level in less, hands
you get a little bonus money there as. Well so
there's a lot of little things that you can do to,
like REALLY i don't, know optimize your play around those
little things. Too and then obviously when you unlock more,
jokers you're gonna get into like all sorts of absolutely wild.
Stuff so, yeah there's a lot of little things about
that game and things THAT i don't even really think.
About LIKE i haven't really thought about interest in a,
while but like it's a good thing to understand how it,
works because it, will you, know like if you're paying
attention to it and optimizing for, it your run is
just gonna you're gonna have a lot more money, overall
which means better, jokers you, know higher planet, cards all
that kind of.
Speaker 2: Stuff, YEAH i MEAN i feel LIKE i probably missed
that part of the. TUTORIAL i didn't even know about
the interest.
Speaker 1: Thing and just look when you when you get your victory,
screen just like just stop for a second and like
read the ways you made. Money it'll be, like, OH
i made three bucks from beating the. LEVEL i made
two bucks BECAUSE i had two extra, Hands and then
what's this interest? Thing and you'll be, like, OH i
HAD i forget what exactly what the numbers are but it's, like,
OH i had ten, dollars SO i got an additional
two dollars or whatever it. Is so, yeah it's sometimes
good to like save money in the. Bank it might
be especially early, on you, know just like the first
couple of, rounds you probably can't buy much, anyway so
try and build that bank up a little bit is
one thing you could try and.
Speaker 2: Do, YEAH i mean that's. Exciting And I'M i feel
like the tarot CARDS i definitely, undervalued like like, entirely
just just because MAYBE i would look at one And i'm,
like WELL i could get, that OR i could up
my hand right or something like the celestial. Cards SO
i feel Like i've just always prioritized. That and with the,
JOKERS i feel like part of you is, like, Well
i'm just gonna go after the, jokers like that's the best.
Card i'm gonna spend all my money on the jokers
THAT i can and then just keep recycling even IF
i have max amount of, jokers just cycle like like
take out the worst one THAT i think is the worst,
one throw them out. There so IT'S i mean that's
just a part of how of a game it is
because you can just keep trying different, strategies AND i
feel like that repetition like it it doesn't feel like
WHEN i fail run it's, like oh so, deflating LIKE
i got so close to the. END i just feel,
like oh, nice NOW i get a, fresh fresh, Canvas
Like i'm excited to jump in there and see IF
i get a different. Joker that kind of forces me
to go in a different realm when it comes to
like the hands and, stuff BECAUSE i feel LIKE i
didn't even LIKE i wasn't even playing straights UNTIL i
got a joker that like gave me better. Straights i'm,
like what even is that, again you, know BECAUSE i
don't play, Poker and Then i'm, like, oh, okay, YEAH
i could definitely cook up up some things. THERE i
felt like my favorite one THAT i, GOT i had
like a multiplayer or, sorry a multiplayer on the, straights
but THEN i also had a card that made it
SO i needed one less card on a. Straight, yeah
so it made it so much easier to to just
like wait for a really good hand, essentially and, yeah
that's WHERE i. WAS i felt LIKE i was winning
like every single round in one, hand And i'm, like you,
know like. Cocky i'm, like you, KNOW i don't Think
i'm gonna. Lose THEN i get to that, one that one,
joker like you like you, said it just made it
SO i don't get points or something off OF i
don't think it was LIKE i don't get points off.
Straights but it's like a certain suit AND i kind
of got stuck with that same suit WHERE i just
wouldn't get bonus cards with. It MAYBE i just didn't
get good. Discards and oh there was another. ONE i
can't it must have been a. Joke it was some
card that allowed me to basically just have like like more,
discards AND i felt LIKE i got to a point
WHERE i was like stacking that maybe with a, joker
AND i just had so many discards SO i could
really just be picky and, choosy AND i was getting
really lucky with those reshuffles and also just getting the
opportunity to like add different cards to your. DECK i
at first WHEN i saw, Them i'm, like, okay, Whatever
like it's kind of. STUPID i have my, hand LIKE
i have my fifty two cards or WHATEVER i have
to start the. Game but like just, again like IF
i IF i get maybe one of the CARDS i
had where IF i play like a ten or a,
four you add ten and then times it by. Four
SO i just had so many. Tens but THEN i
also was stacking them with this suit multiplier through a certain,
joker and that's where it's just ten to four is. Great,
yeah SO i felt Like i'm understanding the gambling addiction
because WHEN i just see those numbers going, Up i'm,
like holy, fuck this is. Exciting.
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean it's such a breakthrough roguelike cause it's
like it's just a score. Tracer it's So arcadia in that.
WAY i can't think of another roguelike where you're not
like battling. Anything it's literally just a number that's going.
Up and then there's LIKE i guess there's the boss
blind and that's what you're. Battling but it's such a
it's like. One it's a lot easier for developers because
now you don't have to like have ENEMY ai or
programming that. Way it's literally just a. Number SO i
think that's why there's been so Many blotro likes or
so many games that have copied. It and like even you,
know AFTER i Finished Potion problem one of the THINGS
i tried was like a little card game kind of
thing where it was that same idea where it's like,
okay rather than like, fight rather than me having to
figure out how to program to make smart ENEMY, Ai
i'm just gonna have like a number of the Defeat.
Like it's a brilliant thing for game developers. TOO a
couple Other i'll give you a couple of other. Tips.
Uh The so the tarot cards once, again once you,
like let's say buy a tarot, card and you, know
sometimes you're opening a pack and you have to use
it right then and. There but sometimes you can just
buy a tarot and it will go up into your, inventory.
RIGHT i think sometimes it's a good idea to just
literally keep that thing up there for a. While you,
know you don't don't spend it right, away don't sell
it right, Away like maybe you just want to hold
onto it because maybe at some point you will be
one dollar off from a great joker in the. Bank
and so if you have that taro up, there maybe
it's even a good taro and you do want to use,
it but it's, like, hell maybe it's just worth it
to sell it for a dollar and THEN i can
like buy this new, joker so that could be a good.
Thing and THEN i think it's also good to keep
in mind that you can use that like. Whenever so
let's say you have a a h what's it, called
like a tarot card up, there the one that like
changes two cards into spades or. Something, Right let's say
you have that up. There and then let's say you
buy a pack and you open a, pack and you
know how when you do, that it like presents you
like severn eight, cards and then like it gives you the,
joker and you can choose or not the, joker the,
taro you can choose what you want to. Upgrade you
can use that one that you haven't reserve at that
point in, Time like you can select cards and upgrade
them at that point in. Time LIKE i feel like
games very free form in that, way like you don't
have to use things at specific. Moments you can just
kind of keep them in the bank or you can
get pretty creative with some of the things in that.
Way so that's one tip and another one THAT i
did not know this for like hours and hours into the.
Game so maybe you know, this maybe you, don't but
you even just rearrange the order of your. JOKERS i
don't know if you've been doing. That, yeah it took
me a while to REALIZE i can do. That but
obviously that's a huge unlocked because you know you can
clear because obviously reads from left to right in terms
of how it's gonna pop the, multiplayers, Right so, okay
well you already know that, one but that that for,
me that's a while to figure out that that was
a thing in the.
Speaker 2: GAME i, MEAN i didn't know like some of the basic.
ONES i feel like even just knowing about. Interest so
it's kind of funny the things that you you pick
up on or. Miss but, no that's that's good to
know about the tarot card usage BECAUSE i know ita
you could use it, anytime and knowing that you can use,
it like you, said like in the shop and you
open a, pack that's, yeah that's, useful.
Speaker 1: But also good to keep in mind if you're gonna
get a card for any, reason like you only have
an inventory of, two so you want to make sure
you're using things that you you know are getting things
rolled into their rotation, too because you don't want to
get caught when you could have got like some additional.
Bonus but, yeah other than, THAT i don't. KNOW i
think YOU i think like those are the only THINGS
i would shout. Out is LIKE i didn't realize that
those were just things in the. Game but they're not
like huge unlocks or. Anything it's just, like, OH i
didn't realize that thing. Originally BUT i, think, yeah the
game is very, simple you, know from the get. Go
it's really just a matter of really mastering it and then,
yeah getting. Addicted AND i think compared to other, roguelikes
this is it also rolls into a bit of a
CRITICISM i have of the game BECAUSE i feel like
a lot more than Other Rogue, lights it's a resety.
Roguelike Like i'll be around or two in and it's, like,
yeah this run is, okay But i'm just gonna. Reset
it's not worth my time to continue this, run or
like my money's really bad or whatever it. Is, Yeah
so LIKE i just feel like a lot of the
Times i'll be resetting really quickly or maybe like you,
know specifically When i'm in like the higher chip, level
like the higher difficulty level, stuff like SOMETIMES i might
just and this is probably, wrong but it feels this
way is it might just be like impossible for me
to get past the second round just BECAUSE i got
complete trash or complete bad, luck and so you just
got to reset a, lot which you, know it's, fine
it's not the worst thing, Ever BUT i THINK i
generally prefer when a roguelike feels, like, oh no matter,
WHAT i can get through this with. Skill but Since
blotro is inherently poker thing and inherently very lucky as,
well sometimes you just get unlucky and that can happen
quite a. Bit but you, know for, me that was
not really an issue UNTIL i was like fifty sixty
hours into the, game and then it was, Like, Okay
i'm at higher. Levels NOW i need to be even more,
perfect and that's when it can be a little bit,
annoying a little bit more annoying to have the bad
luck of it. All, so, yeah that's a game that,
LIKE i would love to get a hundred percent completion
at some, point but, man you the requirement to get
a hundred percent completion is absolutely ridiculous in that, game
and would be so it would require so much. Luck
So i'll always have one or two achievements. MISSING i
think On steam For. Blotro but, yeah it's a game
That i'd still come back to every couple of months
and do a couple of runs and then and Then
i'm like sucked in for a. Week i'm, LIKE i
gotta stop playing. This, also i won't do anything. Else
So i'm glad you finally played, it because, uh, yeah
it's it's. AMAZING i GUESS i want to hear when
you're like deeper in if you like revise your game
of the year from last year and if that would
become your game of the. Year for, me it was
number two right AFTER ufo. Fifty but, Yeah i'm curious
ones because right Now i'm sure it's you, know not
beating Out Stellar blade or also my, HEAD i can't
remember what your other top games. Were but, YEAH i
Think i'm curious to see Where, blocho you, know ranks
out at it all when it all, is, yeah it's
all said and, DONE.
Speaker 2: I, Mean i'm definitely gonna report. BACK i IT'S i
love that it's the type of game THAT i don't
feel like Like i'm not deep in. It BUT i
don't think it's Because i'm. Stuck it's just LIKE i
HAVEN'T i haven't just put in the, Time like it's.
Speaker 1: Just there's so many jokers you won't even have walked, it.
Right like that changes it too and makes it sometimes
it makes it even harder because it's, like but NOW
i have more things in the random pool that could show,
up like the things that do. Exist but obviously then
it gets more fun because you have all these crazy
look concoctions you can put together.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah AND i was like surprised on HOW i
was even getting some of them because like at one
POINT i was playing a game and Then i'm, like,
AH i just don't have time to finish this, run
save the, game come. BACK i like got a joker
for doing. That i'm, like, oh, okay you just get
jokers for just things in this. Game, Yeah and then
one was, like you, know finish your first run or
like get defeated in your first, run that you just
get a joker for.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 2: Again they're probably very intro joker, cards but STILL i
WAS i was surprised just getting them in that. Regard mm.
Speaker 1: Hmm. Yeah the on the collection of, it like the
unlocking of everything was super, fun AND i think you
can like go on the menu at the. Mainscreen, yeah
the unlocked requirements and, stuff and, yeah that was really really.
Fun there's still ONE i one CARD i technically don't
have unlocked because it's just so rare THAT i just
haven't seen it. YET i ACTUALLY i THINK i did see,
it but it was in like a one of the seeded.
Runs you, know there's LIKE i don't know if you
saw on the, menu there's like change runs AND i
unlocked a thing in, there but like it doesn't count
for the main game if you've unlocked it in that. Mode,
unfortunately that's like the last THING i have to uh
get for like all the unlocked are? You, oh by the,
way are you did you change the the deck style
because you know how you like for each suit you
can change with like to the different games because there's
all these crossovers in. There, Now OH i did not know.
That oh you. Go, yeah own the menu you can
change like you can put Like witcher themed cards or
cards Or Stardoo valley Or i'm trying to think there
might be Cultal lambin. THERE i might be making that.
Up i'm trying to think with the Most Kirkland kirkland
franchises is that's in. There but, yeah THERE'S i think There's.
Castlevania The gwent one has me.
Speaker 2: EXCITED i.
Speaker 1: DEFINITELY i guess it's only the just to preface the,
hype it's only the face, cards so it's not like
the entire deck is some new. Thing, yeah but that's
that's good.
Speaker 2: Stuff that's, OKAY i. Guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah and then there's another game you've been. PLAYING i, believe.
Speaker 2: YEAH i MEAN i kind of forgot about one of.
Them i'll quickly fire off the ONE i mentioned you,
about which Is doom twenty. SIXTEEN i just got so
excited by the race Of Doom Dark ages and knowing
THAT i wasn't getting, it AND i just felt left
out BECAUSE i Met travis in the real world and
he was telling me about, it and, like, god Those
doom games and it it it's it right it did
Software like just, man how they're able to like revitalize that. Franchise,
doom like the Old, doom one of the earliest GAMES
i ever, played like on floppy. DISK i have like
core memories to, that and Playing doom twenty, SIXTEEN i
THINK i like touched it.
Speaker 1: Before a little.
Speaker 2: BIT i am playing on the PlayStation AND i did
have some issues with the just the overall feel LIKE
i THOUGHT i felt really rigid and colonky with the.
AIMING i spent a lot of time tweaking the sensitivity and,
stuff AND i found what what was the big difference
in the, setting and you, know maybe listeners out there
and it just can help, them is is the. Smoothness
like it's not necessarily the vertical, sensitivity but the smoothness
Bar it was at like ninety two or. SOMETHING i
brought that right down and it feels Like i'm playing
like cod or something, Now LIKE i just feel so much,
smoother especially in that, Game like there's so many like
snappy movements that you want to be doing with with
with your guns and. Stuff and it's made it feel
good and it's the type of game that you want to,
like you want to feel good while you're doing it
because it is really really fun to. Play it's, SMOOTH
i imagine it just it's even, better like as the games go.
ALONG i listened to a little bit of your guys'
review just to hear kind of like some of your thoughts.
There who do you jump back Into Doom, maternal which
So doom one And Doom eternal are both like free
on the, PlayStation well if you subscribe to the PlayStation
catalog right. Now SO i told, Myself i'm, like, Oh
Doom Dark kid is such a great way to jump.
IN i already have access To doom And Doom, eternal
SO i Think i'm gonna start with with those two.
Firsthand and, yeah it's. AWESOME i mean it's an older,
game so like many people are already know. This it's
almost a decade old, now but it's it's so, fantastic
plays so well and they do a really good job
actually at LIKE i think giving nods to the original
like just collecting like blue cards or you're like Blue
key that was just so like like. ICONIC i feel
like WHEN i played that Original doom where you're just
looking for this like very, all like it just it
stands out when you're like going through like THE pixeli
type world and you just see this like Blue key
and it guess where it opens a blue, door and
it's just like it's so easy to.
Speaker 1: See AND i love that they're not like let's make
this super, immersive like let's, yeah make this super video
gaming and just like stab deep into that video. GAMINGIS
i love that that's.
Speaker 2: Just, yeah, Totally So i'm having lots of fun with.
It i'm, Like i'm only a couple hours, in LIKE
i Think i'm on mission three or, something but it's
just a fun shooter to pick. Up like especially it
probably takes like definitely maybe twenty thirty minutes for like a.
LEVEL i feel like it's been taking. ME i imagine
they kind of take longer as you go, along but very.
SIMPLE i was kind of itching for a shooter and
this definitely scratch that. Itch so, Yeah dune twenty sixteen
and having lots of fun With they definitely. Recommend. Yeah
and then the other one that another misty drop, here
which is kind of on theme because we just finished
off The last Of us finale last. Night i've been
cooking up part one of The last Of. Us it
was download on my PlayStation for so. LONG i feel
like you AND i were talking about that for a
while or sorry a while ago Before last Of Us
season two came out AND i Got i'm pretty sure
like over halfway the first time THAT i tried that
game in on THE ps four and whatever, REASON i just,
stopped like it wasn't anything in particular on WHAT i wasn't.
ENJOYING i just stopped for whatever. REASON i jump back
in here start for the, beginning of, course and really
like it's it's, phenomenal and especially what they're able to
do with the like the, Remaster like it looks so,
Good like it really looks like A ps five. GAME
i can only imagine how much better like the second
game looks on the modern, consoles because it does look really,
good especially for, One like this is A ps three,
game isn't it the first last of? Us?
Speaker 1: YEAH i.
Speaker 2: GUESS i know it's a remaster and, everything but still
like it got.
Speaker 1: The remaster and then it got like The part one,
remake so, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's it's.
Speaker 1: Funny it's not that, old but it's had like two
full or one one kind of half remake and then
like a full.
Speaker 2: REMAKE i, guess, Yeah and like, this it looks so,
beautiful BUT i feel like the core, Mechanics i'm, like,
OKAY i can tell this is A ps three, game
just with some of the, puzzles and LIKE i never
really thought that on my first play. Through MAYBE i
was just like that was an older time WHEN i
first played. It maybe that's a, reason BUT i, LIKE
i really love, it BUT i find myself WHEN i
get into an area where it's, Like, okay NOW i
have to sneak around all of these enemies or crawlers
or Or i'm forced into combat with these. UNITS i
kind of just dread, it and, like not in the
sense of like it's a horror game And i'm like.
Terrified it's, like, ah for fox, Sakes, okay let's let's
HOPEFULLY i don't miss a headshot.
Speaker 1: HERE i know you like playing games on hard, difficulties
but would this not be a game that you just
slow go on story mode or easy?
Speaker 2: Mode and JUST i THINK i should do that Because
i'm on like normal right. Now Like i'm like you,
said LIKE i am normally geared that. WAY i do
want to kind of challenge, myself But i'm like, WHATEVER
i just want to do normal to play through. It it's
still pretty fucking. Challenging and Maybe i'm just really bad
PRIs OR i get put into situations where a big
part of it too IS i like BECAUSE i enter
those zones AND i know WHAT i have to, do
And i'm just, LIKE i just don't want to do this,
RIGHT i just want to get going with the, story
which is probably a bad way to play the, game
BUT i think that very much gears to the reason
WHY i should just lower the, difficulty just just just
to experience the, story because that's really Why i'm in,
It like it is fun eventually through the world and
playing As, joel like actually moving the joystick and moving
me through this. World LIKE i am enjoying playing the
game that. Way that's WHY i wouldn't just like watch the,
YouTube you, know like the video like the video game
movie of The last Of Us part. ONE i do
enjoy playing it and just experience it for myself because
when you do get put in those stressful, situations the sweaty,
palms like it is a fun, feeling just just the
specific like game, play when you get into the combat and.
Stuff i'm not the biggest fan of and curious how
much that kind of, changes BECAUSE i do want to
eventually play part. Two i'm not putting like a Like
i'm not trying to rush to this by any. MEANS
i just Like last Of. Us, Yeah i'm hyped on.
Speaker 1: IT i mean after season two's, ending LIKE i don't
want to wait to find out what happens, now so.
Speaker 2: Knowing how long it takes between seasons as. Well it's,
Like i'm probably gonna get to that second game before
we even get.
Speaker 1: And part two is not on the catalog at this. Juncture, no,
no it's. Not, yeah it's kind of go on there, eventually,
right good of games Like cameo twenty, Twenty, right it's
like four years old, now five years.
Speaker 2: Old, Now, YEAH i think, EVENTUALLY i think, EVENTUALLY i
think IF i IF i have this just thing in
my head Where i'm, like any PlayStation exclusive game that
comes out will eventually be on. There that's just kind
of like my my Thing i'm telling. Myself, YEAH i
told MYSELF i would eventually get To horizon zero don
if it gets out of the. Catalog, fuck both those
games are on the, CATALOG i don't think if they're
both on it, now but the first ONE i definitely
have access to on, there SO i should jump on there.
Speaker 1: Surprised if the second one is on, there that's, well
Maybe i'm.
Speaker 2: Misremembory maybe it has.
Speaker 1: Only been the first, one But i've never seen the second. One,
yeah T part, TWO i don't, know.
Speaker 2: MAYBE i misremembering, it but definitely the first game you
have access to on the, catalog and, well that being,
Said i'm sure it's only a matter of time before
that second one eventually gets on. THERE i feel like
it's just they do a good job at eventually rotating
those games on, there because there's even some monthly game
like even monthly games where like even if you don't
subscribe to the subscription, service well LIKE i guess you
kind of do to just like like the. Base, yeah yeah.
Exactly i've been kind of surprised with some of the
titles like a thrown on, there like that's WHERE i
got access to, Yeah blato of. Course but with the
other PlayStation one with, zombies you play The biker with The. Creators, yeah,
Yeah DA's, gone like like that was. ONE i, mean
it's not as big of a game As last Of,
us but like, still like just a lot of those
PlayStation games do eventually get at it on. There so,
Yeah last Of us, Though i'm pretty hyped on, it and,
uh great game AND i feel like it what that
like me playing the, game what it's done more than
anything on like the initial first reaction is appreciate the,
cadence like very specifically the cadence Of pedro And, elle
not El, A, Bella, Bella ramsey were able to like
carry to the character like they sound like the voice
actors to. Me to, me maybe not like one hundred,
percent like maybe IF i sat down and sat down
could like did a side by side. COMPARISON i wouldn't think,
that but just like the way that like The Texas
joel talks like like kind of like reluctant or like
just When ellie gets like really like angry and. Whiny
and of course season, one like she's or the first
game she's, fourteen so she's much younger than she's supposed
to be in season. Two but LIKE i still just
Hear bella And, pedro So i'm, like, man they. Did
they did a really good job at portraying like at
least the voices of the. Characters i'm curious If i'm
gonna keep feeling that way because the characters do go
for through major progressions that we've, seen you, know through the.
Show BUT i imagine it's even like more drawn out
through the games because you just have more time with the.
Characters so that's been SOMETHING i really appreciate at. Least just,
yeah good job job to those. Actors they really brought
their voice game uh to the.
Speaker 1: Show, yeah, yeah that's. GREAT i think it is installed
in MY ps five right. NOW i actually haven't booted
up THE ps five, recently And i'm not subscribed TO
ps plus right, now But i'll be back on there
when The strandon's coming. OUT i don't know When i'll.
When i'll probably resubscribe when there's just a monthly game
THAT i CAN'T i can't, resist but, yeah it's IT'S
i Think i'll definitely join you on that Last MoU's. Journey,
FINALLY i feel LIKE i feel obligated as a gamer
maybe beat a, game you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah like, again, no no, Rush i'm like really
slowly making my way through. It but maybe we'll just
check in where we are and maybe if we end
up ending at the same, time it'd be fun to
kind of talk about it and, yeah compare notes that way.
Speaker 1: Definitely uh. Yeah and then also the DEAL ss like
rolled into that, too is? It, yeah it's like a
in the main way or is it still like a
side of mission that you can select from the menu or.
Speaker 2: SOMETHING i just see it on the, menu so it
seems like it's SOMETHING i can kind of play at any.
TIME i, like it's With ellie and another girl THAT
i haven't seen. Yet So i'm, Like i'm just gonna
keep playing the main. Game it seems like that's the
way right experience.
Speaker 1: It, yeah BECAUSE i forget in the show when they
that episode was like somewhere in the middle of season.
Speaker 2: ONE i, think, right sounds sounds. Familiar, YEAH i.
Speaker 1: Forget exactly when they but they like pieced it kind
of interstitial in the story. There but uh, yeah there,
go there's a last. One how do we take one
more break and then we have just one more? Games last.
Topical we'll be right. Back, okay we are. BACK i
have one kind of game to shouted out here a little,
bit but also just a bit of a random sort
of topic that has been bouncing around my, Mind. KIRKLAND
i realized this last, week AND i feel LIKE i
should be embarrassed about, this which is Why i've left
it specifically for the last, topic BECAUSE i don't want
everyone to know of this about. ME i just wanted
to dedicated fans. This BUT i realized THAT i how
LITTLE i like knew about The Grand theft auto. Franchise
so let me let me, Explain let me. Explain so,
Obviously i've, played you, know hundreds of hours of four and,
five play a little bit Of San, andres a little
bit Of Vice city in my. Day But i'm not
gonna lie to. You until last, WEEK i legitimately thought
Sant andreas Was Grand Theft auto. THREE i thought that
they were the same. Game oh, WOW i Because i'm
realizing in and the NIGHT i was doing some research and.
STUFF i feel Like i've never heard anyone in my
life talk About Grand Theft auto three as a.
Speaker 2: Game, man that's.
Speaker 1: Crazy what do you tell me About Grand THEFT ato
three from your?
Speaker 2: Perspective Grandfather oto three was a great. Game AND i
it wasn't my First Grand Theft auto, game but it.
Was it. WAS i feel like it was the, first
maybe like the FIRST ps two. GAME i think it
was ON ps two MAYBE ps, ONE i can't. REMEMBER
i remember playing at my cousin's house and just being,
like what is this? Game and they told me As
Grand Theft auto And i'm, like, NO i Played Grand theft.
All this is Not Grand theft BECAUSE i played the
top down bird's.
Speaker 1: Eye view CRAZY gta games.
Speaker 2: At my my uncle's. House and, yeah like Even Grand Theft,
auto like the one In london WHERE i don't know
if that was like the first or second, game but
it was specifically like A London Grand Theft auto, game
which is. Cool they went across the pond at some
point it was top down but still and YEAH i.
Speaker 1: Played, yeah that's like there WAS i have The wikipedia.
Here Grand Theft auto came to nineteen ninety, seven and
then there Was Grand Theft Auto london nineteen sixty. Nine let's,
go same, Year Grand Theft Auto london nineteen sixty, one
same Year Grand Theft auto. Two is they really three
separate teams in one, year which is. Funny you, know
we look at like how long the break is between
like the next older scrolls In, skyrm you KNOW gt,
SIX gt. Five but, yeah back in the, day it's
Like Grand Theft auto And Grand Theft auto four all
came out within like a you, know eight year period
or something crazy like, that you, know just like eight
or not like more games than years, somehow which is
like insane that they were able to have that. Output
but obviously just like the workflows for game development was
much much quicker back. Then but, yeah so that that
was LIKE i don't even. KNOW i don't know anything
About Grand theft aut Of. LONDON i so those are
the top down ones as, WELL i, guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah top down you like the Classic Union jack
Like Mini. COOPER'S i, Remember i'd always prioritize stealing those. Cars,
yeah very. JANKY i like probably never got very. Far
you would do quest through through phone books or phone,
books phone, booths and it was very much Like, okay
here's your, target go kill this, target like like that
was the. Game so it's just crazy how much the
games like changed to where we are. Now twenty twenty
six is going to be released for the next. One but,
Yeah grantraft, THREE i think that was the first TIME
i like like that that. Started that was probably my
first experience of like cheats in video games because like
that that's the one where you do like the. Combo,
actually now That i'm saying, that the first CHEATS i
did With age Of empires won big time on THE.
PC i was cheating up With age Of empires big.
Time yeah, Games, yeah, YEAH pc, Games but but like for,
CONSOLE i guess with with LIKE l ONE r one UPDOWN, Bb,
like like it's just crazy how much that's like like
that's probably not gonna be a thing going. Forward hey
for like younger generations of video gamers just doing those
like button sequences to get.
Speaker 1: Cheats, yeah it. Doesn't it's not a thing. Anymore AND
i Know i've thought about that a. LOT i feel
like a lot of the things that would be are
like micro. Transactions so that's like my super cynical like
capitalists take on why those don't exist, Anymore but LIKE
gta five had, them but like do you think gt
six is gonna have just like input cheat codes like,
that BECAUSE i feel like a lot of open world
games don't have that, anymore which is, Weird like let
me just do some crazy wacky shit here and like,
yeah disabled achievements if you, want like if you really
want to ruin my, Fund, like, yeah it is weird
how how much that has died out in the modern modern.
Speaker 2: AGE i could SEE gta if if it's not like a,
gameplay like at least make it like like a comment about,
It like it seems like a very meta thing FOR
gta to like do something around, that because like they
are just so it's so attached to, that like unlimited. Ammo,
yeah you, know like stuff like. That i've seen like
basketball players with tattoos that that have. That it's like
the Unlimited ammo cheat because they just they're saying that
they shoot baskets and stuff or whatever the terminology. Is so,
yeah but you know that this was the first game
of like going to the FAMILY pc Finding LIKE i
feel like it was, like, OH i can't even remember
the u R L i THOUGHT i had. IT i
remember one of the r LS i. Used it was
like it transitioned into Games, radar WHICH i think is
still a thing If i'm not, Mistaken but like before
it was Games, radar it was like cheats dot com
or something like, That like like that would be the
location to go get YOUR gta sheets and like transposing
them onto a piece of paper with my little cousin
uh and then then bring that over to the FAMILY.
Tv it's so funny.
Speaker 1: Had the yeah codes written in there on.
Speaker 2: A piece of My Tony hawk. Underground it still has
that piece of paper THAT i transposed way back in the,
day so it's a little piece of history. There BUT
gta three the first one THAT i like even memorized.
Them it's, like, hey this is my my weapon combo
and then just going on like rampages with my, cousin
like LIKE i do remember, it like of LIKE i
have more memories With Santa. DREAS i actually went to
like the release for that at The Colona, mall which
is crazy to think about how old that game is. Now,
yeah me and my cousin and my uncle we went
and picked that. UP i remember we were like PLAYING
gta three before, That like we got so hyped for, it.
Speaker 1: So San, andres you went to the opening night thing
and got.
Speaker 2: It it was an open opening. Night was like we
just went to the mall and pick it, up and
LIKE i.
Speaker 1: Just, remember say you were like seven WHEN i, think
sounds like that would be. Grazy uncle didn't give a,
fuck like, man like that's a little bit.
Speaker 2: No for, sure especially like what the game. IS i
mean a lot of like the bad STUFF i feel
like went over my head at least from WHAT i,
remember but like still going on m rampages and just shooting,
People like it's pretty fucked up to be exposed to.
That maybe that's maybe Maybe i'll dive into that with my.
Therapist yeah. Exactly but no good memories because it WENT
gt three Then Vice city and Then San, andreas, right
you got, It, yeah BECAUSE i.
Speaker 1: Don't think because two thousand and, One Vice city two
thousand and, Two san And dres two thousand and, four
so pretty crazy that they were able to achieve. That
i'm guessing alter those games the exact same, engine so
it was just like you, know, generating we don't have
to like do the code all over again in that.
Speaker 2: Way, yeah shooting and.
Speaker 1: Stuff i'm guessing those games feel very. Similar it's just
like New New, city new features kind of, stuff new,
character new. Story.
Speaker 2: Yeah the more we're talking about, IT i feel LIKE
i might be Interweaving Vice city in, three so SO
i might be misremembering some things here BECAUSE gt three
had very minimum mechanics as, Well like the jump was
awful like.
Speaker 1: The First Open world. One So i'm yeah yea that
they really, yeah iterated pretty hard between those three kind
of that, trilogy.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah yeah for, Sure and like the, quests we're
not very fun like, again LIKE i don't really remember
doing a lot of the story, stuff but it was
just it was kind of what the first game was
with and like the, assassinations probably some cut scenes in.
There very bland, Characters i'm sure But Vice, City, yeah
Because Vice city actually incorporated a lot more mechanics than
they that they, Did like there's no swimming or, anything
but still just like the. Ability i'm crossing over my
mechanic jumps, though because In San ANDREAS i remember specifically
that was the one that introduced you could jump over,
fences and it was like just a big deal to
be able to run cops and yeah and jump over.
Fences so, Yeah i'm probably blending The Vice city AND
gta three memories together BECAUSE i mean that just goes
to show how OLD gt three. WAS i remember the,
CHARACTER i remember the like the, setting but not like
any characters or. ANYTHING i remember the cut scenes being
very cheesy and. Corny but, yeah it's, crazy it was
a blind spot for you up until now.
Speaker 1: Though, yeah it's it's. Funny it's like AS i As i've,
mentioned because we talked a lot ABOUT gt in the
last like two, episodes because the Trailer i've talked about
with Both taylor And travis and just DIFFERENT gta things
AND i, think like just growing. Up but you, KNOW
i played Some Vice, city played Some San, andreas but
like three was just Never these are not GAMES i
owned UNTIL i was like old enough and buy old,
ENOUGH i mean like middle, school where LIKE i could
BUY gta four or like my mom buy ME gt
four or whatever THAT i could like own those. Games
and so that was definitely like blind spot for, me
especially as like A nintendo, Kid like you, know you
weren't PLAYING gt three on a, GameCube, RIGHT i didn't
have A ps, two SO i was, like wasn't bumping
into that game on my. Own but, YEAH i just
feel Like i've just never bumped in anyone who's really
talked ABOUT gk, three and then probably when they, HAVE
i assumed they were just talking About San, andreas so
whatever they were, SAYING i was just, like, OH gt
three like the game BEFORE gja four Aka San, andreas
but like obviously they are a different game. There so,
YEAH i don't know how How i've just like gone
my whole life not realizing. That BUT i think it's
kind of fun to be, like, wow there's just like
a BONUS gta game THAT i knew nothing. About and
then because THAT i just Assumed Vice city WAS gta,
Two like that's always how my brain has worked this stuff,
out and so OBVIOUSLY i was so off. There but you,
Know i've been looking a lot INTO gta in the
last couple of, weeks and REALLY i talked To taylor And,
trapp not. YOU i haven't talked to you about it right. Now,
travis of, like, MAN i really want to do some
type of retro on like some Rock star games talk
about some OLD gta things may are, yeah, yeah pickpong of,
course or table.
Speaker 2: TENNIS i think it is yeahble so.
Speaker 1: YEAH I and it sounds like based on how, much
because it seems like you have a lot more nostalgia
for someone's earlier, Games LIKE i don't know if we
go back to one and, two BUT i think even
just like a few hours into each of these games
would be really, fun a few podcast, Episodes so it
sounds like you would be down for. That AND i
realized this because you, know back years ago is like
they ANNOUNCED gt, plus which is like THE gta membership monthly,
thing AND i always just assumed that was FOR gt
five to just, get like you monthly shark cards or
whatever the, fuck and you could do stuff. There but,
like it also just has THE Gta, trilogy which is
like the remaster versions of Three Vice, City San. Andres
it Has, bully it HAS i think it has table,
tennis it has some other. GAMES i was looking through
the catalog and there's like you, know ten fifteen games
or something that are just like on that as well
with that subscription so like ten bucks and you can
just like access all these games on like you, KNOW ps,
Five Xbox SERIES x whatever it. Is So i'm probably,
gonna like at some point in the next you, know
BEFORE gt, six essentially like get a month or two
of that at different times and just like blaster a
bunch of these games and try them. Out So i'll
coordinate with you on that BECAUSE i would love to
get your perspective on like SPECIFICALLY gja three as like
for me learning that it exists like days, ago and
then you who actually played it back in the. DAY
i think that'd be really fun to. Revisit not that we
do the whole play through the story motor, anything but
just spend like five or six hours in there and
just kind of look back on it and like discover
the things like, oh, yeah you can't jump over a.
Fence that's, crazy but it's, like, yeah that's just you,
know all those things had to come with iteration over
over the. Years so, yeah it's it's It's i'm kind
of excited to jump back in some of these old,
games even Though i'm expecting that they're gonna be old
and janky and not, good But i'm sure they're still
fun to just like cruise any game that's like an
open world in a city where you can just do
whatever you, want like it's just going to be a good.
TIME i feel like.
Speaker 2: That was that was just such a crazy idea, too
at like that stage of my gaming, Career LIKE i
just didn't understand that you could have like an open
world game like that and just the violent stuff you're.
Speaker 1: Doing it was mine was mine Was Simpsons hit And.
Run that was WHAT i was.
Speaker 2: DOING i had that game, also like it was.
Speaker 1: Awesome, YEAH i also had great cheats and things in there.
Speaker 2: TOO i don't remember the cheats at.
Speaker 1: All ACTUALLY i REMEMBER i have a distinct memory of
BECAUSE i THINK i got that game for like my
birthday one. Year so me and all my friends at
my birthday were playing, it and we put in a
cheat code that when you honk your, horn your car
just like flies three hundred feet in the. Air but
if you don't do that in conjunction with the cheat
that gives you like infinite, health you just explode and
die when even in the ground, Again and SO i
have a distinct memory of discovering. That but, yeah there
were quite a fewts in that game, too and like
a lot of Hidden easter eggs and like hidden cars
if you did like specific THINGS i remember, Too so,
yeah a lot of cool stuff like. That it's.
Speaker 2: Funny as we were talking ABOUT, GTA i got reminded
of a vague memory the first TIME i was PLAYING,
gta and especially just making the comment of like how
YOUNG i actually was like when these games came, out
AND i just got hit with like a very vivid
memory THAT i remember the first TIME i like picked
up that controller to PLAY, gta my uncle turned to
me and, said don't tell your. MOM i let you play.
This so, yes there was reason THAT i guess the
adults knew how unappropriate that game would have been for
someone of my, age but shuts the.
Speaker 1: Uncle, yeah shows the. UNCLE i have a similar. Thing
whereas like a friend's house and their older brothers were
playing Sant andreas and that was Like i've always heard
about grandft was for something like saw it you can
just like drive into. PEOPLE i was probably wasn't saying.
THAT i probably wasn't old lift to swear, yet but,
YEAH I i remember that being a thing of Like
i'm not telling my mom about. THIS i don't even
know about. This Uh, so, YEAH i love that that's
just part of everyone's or at least everyone who's around
our age probably history OF. Gta so, YEAH i just you,
know trying out the rest of. It so the same,
Year San Andres Grand Theft Auto advance was a. RELEASE
i think it's another top down one almost like probably
a remake OF i think it's just the ORIGINAL gta
but just like on A Gay Boy advance. Essentially and
there WAS gta or, YEAH Gta Liberty City stories And
Vice City. Stories SO i think those are just the
TWO psp re releases of those two, games.
Speaker 2: RIGHT I i thought they were like, dalcs but Maybe
i'm thinking of Like ballad Of gaytonia OR gta. Four,
sorry but now that you SAID, PSP i do. Have,
yeah these are The these are THE psp.
Speaker 1: Ports of of those those two, GAMES i. Guess and,
YEAH i remember playing those a little, bit but THEN
i get BUT i don't See san andres, here but
that also had A psp, version, Right maybe did that
one release day and day with THE.
Speaker 2: PSP i didn't think it had A psp, One.
Speaker 1: Maybe it never. Did maybe JUST gt three Because Liberty
city stores would BE gt, three, right and Then Vice
city stories would obviously Be Vice. City but that's weird
That San andreas didn't get. THAT i get maybe the
tech was much more advanced and couldn't run on A,
psp BUT I i assumed it would have been a
lot closer in terms of power as Like Vice city and,
Three but maybe maybe that two year gap between development
just like evolved.
Speaker 2: IT i, guess, YEAH i mean it's a mobile game
now you can get it on the iOS, store which
is kind of. Funny you went full circle, there.
Speaker 1: Because, YEAH i guess these were ALL ps two. Games
EVEN gta three was a ps two, game So i'm
kind of surprised they didn't get that ON. Psp but interesting,
nonetheless and then after that you GET gt, Four so
that's kind of the weird thing that surprised. Me but
is LIKE gt three is Is Liberty? City? Right is?
It is it Only Liberty city or is there any
other locales as?
Speaker 2: Well FROM i only remember being in like the city
you can get to those bridge, areas like you can't
go past here the.
Speaker 1: Class so it's kind of weird like that number entries,
wise like three and four are Both New.
Speaker 2: YORK i never thought about that.
Speaker 1: City, yeah so obviously there's two like mainline games between
there that just have different. Subtitles but kind of weird
to see, that and that just like re establishes that
cycle of like AFTER gt six and you, know of
course that's like another twenty eight years away from, today
but shows for our twenty eight years later retro go
check that. Out but like we're just gonna go back
To New, york, Right like we're never gonna get a
new city in the, mits like we only ever have
the amount to live to do these. Three that would
be a fun, callback BUT i, KNOW i don't think
they do, it BUT i would love to see.
Speaker 2: It obviously side the. ROAD i wouldn't know how to do.
Speaker 1: It that's a great. POINT a lot of that would
mess with a lot of. People, YEAH gta four comes
out in two thousand and. Eight, uh and then you
obviously had the two DLCs and Then Chinatown wars was
THE ds, game, right WHICH i assume that's also that
is kind of top. Downy it is more THREE, d
but it is like that top down. STYLE i don't
know if you could get out of your car in
this game or if it was just, driving BUT i
should try and find that game then. Play that'd be.
Fun and then Obviously Jump. Fears now we're AT gt
five and twenty, thirteen and then uh twenty, thirteen and then,
YEAH i guess in twenty twenty one they released the,
trilogy The Definitive, edition WHICH i guess is like a
remastered version of Three Vice City San. Andreas and then
we got the the remake thing last, year which WAS
i don't EVEN i can't remember which games were in,
that but that was like the really janky, thing right
m hm with the three. Games and then, YEAH gk
six next, year so that's kind of trying to know
the whole series there we, have but there's a lot
there's a couple of like hidden hidden gems in the
mix there THAT i feel, LIKE, i, YEAH i hadn't
heard of. Before so it was kind of fun to
think back on that and excited to jump back through
some of those. Games and, yeah Like bully has always been.
ONE i want to play, two and OBVIOUSLY i need
to spend more time In Red dead both of the.
GAME i have never played, two but Even Red dead.
One so, yeah a lot of a lot OF gt
stuff to check. Out but in that vein of, thought
BECAUSE i WAS i wanted a game like, that AND
i was, like, OKAY i HAVE gt four or, five but,
LIKE i kind of not do something, New and so
WHAT i did IS i used a cruisin on game
pass and saw that they Had Mafia definitive addition on.
There SO i Downloaded, mafia which is, yeah obviously RE
i guess it's a. Remass, no that was a full
and remake of the first game that came out a
few years. Ago in the first, game you, know the
original game pame in like two thousand and two or
something like. That as. Well remind me your which ones
in the series you've. Played mafia two.
Speaker 2: Was my first experience with that, game AND i played
it all the way, through SO i know the whole
story of that one as much AS i can remember
for how long it. Was and THEN i In mafia
three a little, bit, okay but, yeah Mostly mafia, two.
Speaker 1: Right, YEAH i thought this would be time they to
jump into just because the new, one which is Called
The Old Old. Country, yes so that's coming out later this,
year in a couple couple of months, Actually SO i,
thought it's finally a good. Time i've never played this
series before because it is VERY, gta, like you, know
you're in a, city you can cruise. Around, obviously the
settings a bit, different a little more old timing in that,
way but, yeah this, one it's it's funny. Too WHEN
i was playing this game doing few, Missions i'm, like
how DO i like not do missions and just roam
around and mess? Around but it's like a different option
on the. Menu it's like you can either do free
play or you can do like story, mode which is
like always forces KIND i guess you could still cruise,
around but then there's always like the things on the
map telling you where to go and what to do.
Exactly SO i did like a few missions and THEN
i just went into the free free realm mode and
cruised around for a, while drove around trying to mess
with some. People it's a weird thing because like this
game came out in twenty, twenty this, remake but it's
like really. Janky it's it's really it feels much older
than twenty twenty in terms of the level of, it
the yankiness of the, CPUs the movement feels really. JANKY
i DON'T i can't. Tell if it's like thirty, frames
it's like upris to look a little bit more like sixty.
Frames but there's a lot of weird stuff that just
like doesn't render. Properly there's a lot of weird effects
in this, game so it's kind of a it feels
like a bit of a shoddy remake in my. OPINION
i don't know if this is a thing where they
built the game from the ground up or they're like
using that old engine but like trying to make it
look better and the kind of the Way Oblivion remaster,
did but like doing it in a worse. Way so
it's unfortunately not like the best, game like quality wise
in that. Way And i'm sure the original, game if
this version is, Yanky i'm sure that original one is
kind of janky, two But i'm sure it has been
more of that LIKE ps two janky charm to. It but,
YEAH i don't, know IT'S i guess it's just. Funny
it's like going back and we're using like old timey
vehicles which are slow and like don't control very, well
and there's not a lot of vehicle we're.
Speaker 2: HORRIBLE i remember From, OKAY i was so annoyed by
just how slow and like the.
Speaker 1: Turns it's like, yeah and they all feel like pretty
much the. Same there's like different there's like a little
more pickup truck, versions a little more car, version there's
one that has like a pro pane tank on the,
back but they all kind of feel like the exact.
Same so, yeah that and that's like probably my favorite
part about LIKE gt. Game If i'd like distilled on one.
Thing it's just like driving around being a, maniac flying
off stuff and like physics and smashing through telephone poles
and in this, game like half the things you drive,
into even if it's like a wooden fence that looks
like it's about to fall apart around its own even
when you smash into it AT i don't know what
going fast and an old timey cars sixty clumbers an,
hour like it still like doesn't break and you just
like take you, know take a bunch of. Damage your
screen goes all ready for a few, seconds so kind
of a janky, experience BUT i don't, know like it
sounds like the, story even if you can't remember all the,
details is the is what what you remember most About Mafia?
Too would that be? Accurate it's like just such a
really Great Mafia mobster.
Speaker 2: Storyline, YEAH i felt LIKE i was Playing scarface and
just like through through the character And i'm playing the.
Character And Mafia too has a little bit better free,
Roaming like you don't select the free roam area at
least IF i remember that, Correctly LIKE i remember an open.
AREA i remember remember a lot of. REMEMBERS i recall
knowing where the various like speedy vehicles were in the
map that my would go and, find and like they're
not that. Good so it just got to the point
Where i'm, LIKE i just want a linear story this
because that's WHERE i get the most enjoyment out. Of,
like IF i want to go play a free roaming,
Sandbox i'll go PLAY gta because it's just far superior
in all. Categories and like that's even BEFORE gta five came,
OUT i think is WHEN i would have been playing.
This BUT i thought the character was really. Good it's
just it's just a good, story like good, betrayal and
then the mechanics were fun and it is very comparable
to the GTAs of the. World but, YEAH i think
like just just being a mobster and like like you,
know like cracking, down like running from the, cop just
doing all these things with Your tommy. Gun the hand
to hand COMBAT i remember being really. Fun and it's just,
yeah it was a really solid linear story game for
a person, adventure but like for a sandbox not not
the type of. Game and, uh, YEAH i think if
you know that going into, it it helps a.
Speaker 1: Lot, yeah that's that's a good that is good to
think about BECAUSE i think, that's to be, fair WHAT
i was going in there. WANTING i just wanted to mess.
AROUND i was, Like i'm gonna do a couple of,
missions but THEN i just want a cruise around in
the city and like have some. Fun but, yeah definitely,
obviously even like because it has a separation of campaign
mode and like free play, mode it seems like it's
a lot more focused On, yeah like that story side
of things was you, know nothing wrong with, that but
that's JUST i guess not WHAT i was looking for
at that point in. Time and then since the game
just feels quite. Janky i'm like not super super thrilled
with the gameplay elements of, it but, yeah the, story
like you, know good, cinematography like good voice, acting like
it's it seems like that it definitely is a focus of,
it and that stuff does look great in the. Game
it's just more when you're in the open world and
you see someone in the distance who's like bugging, out
and it's, Like, okay this looks.
Speaker 2: A little weird doing the morrow and, Walk.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Big but like, yeah when you're actually in
the story, stuff it all kind of plays quite. Well so,
yeah kind of an interesting like. HERE i also to
jump back into this series That i've never never really played, before.
Speaker 2: And i'm very curious with like all that being, said
like what they do for the Old, country like if
it's gonna feel more of a sandboxy or if it's like,
similar because LIKE i guess it's. Accurate old vehicles fucking
sucked compared to what they are, now so like they
probably weren't fun to drive like they like they are
now and as dangerous with how fast they can. Go
BUT i mean we're gonna be even. Older we're going
to The Old country, now BUT i think it would
be a bit of a letdown if the world isn't
like something that you want to explore in BECAUSE i
Think Mafia too again a long time ago WHEN i played,
it but LIKE i thought the city looked, gorgeous BUT
i never felt LIKE i just want to go. Adventuring
AND i think the story did a good job at
kind of covering the main areas of the city so
you kind of get to experience. It SO i never
really felt LIKE i was, curious like what's around that,
Corner LIKE i never really had those. Thoughts but, Yeah
i'm very curious on what's going to be the formula
and the balance For Old.
Speaker 1: COUNTRY i feel like it does have an opportunity here
to kind of crush it just with THE gta. Delay you,
know we didn't know exactly when that game was gonna
come out, anyway but, like let's say it did come
out Before Old, country THEN i think that would have
been a really bad. Sign you, know if it did
come out, after Maybe Old country would have had had some.
Space BUT i feel like people Are i'm probably not
alone here and really craving a game like this right.
Now and even if this isn't quite, That i'll at
least get people like in the door and maybe If
Old country is really great and it does have some
of those fun antics kind of, things like if, it you,
know has some funny clips that people are seeing on
TikTok or YouTube shorts and, whatnot and people, like, OH
i got to pick this game up in the way
that LIKE i, remember Like kusa did, that And traves is,
like what this game's LIKE, gta and it's, LIKE i
want to play that right. NOW i feel like right
now that could be especially pressing for a lot of
people who are just frothing at the mouth for this
NEXT gta, game Especially hot off The. Delay so, YEAH
i don't, Know i'm curious to see what This Old
country situation looks. LIKE i don't think i'd be picking
it up day one or anything like, that but you,
know if it hits one of these streaming services or,
Something i'd be down to check it, out because this
is a kind of, fun fun one to go back,
to for. Sure so, yeah a little little bit Of
mafia in the. Mix, There, uh any other, thoughts, crickling
any other games or anything you want to share it? Today,
No i'm all dried it. Up i'll dried up. Well
thank you for joining. Me this is a, fun very rambly,
episode WHICH i think the best episodes usually. Are it's
a big week for me and. You we Are we've
already did two. Episodes if, you if, you if your
week starts On, sunday for a lot of people does.
Speaker 2: EPISODES i found that out like last, year and it
blew my. Mind, yeah this is our third.
Speaker 1: Episode we're doing Weekly geeked tomorrow and then we have
REGULAR gv newscast and then after night as. Well so
me and you are just, yeah god doing. Everything it's.
Speaker 2: Crazy i'll make SURE i look good for you because
you're gonna be seeing me a. Lot don't want you
to get tired in my, face.
Speaker 1: Like just, fine thank. You we're gonna be sick of
each other at the end of the week though for, SURE.
Speaker 2: I just won't see you for a. Week that's some
times how it goes on the.
Speaker 1: Schedule that does happen. Sometimes but thank you for joining.
Me thank you everyone for, listening and we'll see you
again next. Time bye, bye bye. Bye