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Speaker 4: We were here probably wondering where's Ben kribble at, where's
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to be joining us today at all. Some might disagree
with that. Today is a very special day for the Criddler,
for the Mongoose. It is his birthday today. It is
Ben's birthday, So happy birthday to Benjamin J.
Speaker 3: Criddle.
Speaker 4: He will not be joining I told him you must
take the day off. Some don't agree with that decision,
but I don't care. That's why I get to be
the execut producer of the program. And if they want
to call her debate the shots to come take my
job and you can do so. But I look, Ben
does a lot already for the show. He helps out
a lot, He's got a small business. I just felt
like he needed to be celebrated today to be able
to spend time with his lovely wife and his kiddos.
So I say, hey, look, I'll hold the show down.
We have other codes that can help out. We always
got you know, the right hand man, my right hand
man as well, hopefully I'm his right hand man. A
little w W reference for there. People can help chime in.
You take the day off. So without further ado, I
just want to start off by.
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Speaker 3: Today and the rest of the starts of the cast.
Speaker 4: For this Veterans Day edition of Cougar Sports. He stands
in at five eleven six feet depending on the day.
If he gets an adjustment with this hips and if
it's back thinking of Lord extremely about one to ninety
five might need him out there because some people still
to drop passes and punts.
Speaker 5: He might be able to do it for us. Maybe
it's hard than we think. We don't know.
Speaker 4: I got Brett always bringing the Hammer, former sideline reporter
from bou TV and part of the Believe Nowhere Brett,
How are you going today?
Speaker 5: I'll tell you this.
Speaker 6: I'm usually the type of guy who dodges absolutely none
of the spoke.
Speaker 5: I usually am all here for. But I will tell
you this. There was only one thing in all of.
Speaker 6: High school football that I said, ah, I'd really rather
not do that, and it was returning punts. Returning kicks
I don't even I think is less scary than returning punts.
Speaker 5: And look, we're obviously gonna have to address it. Silani
addresses it in his media availability. This thing with Parker
Kingston's got to be worked out. Obviously, they pulled him off.
Put return or one put it back on. We'll get
into it, but I'll tell you this.
Speaker 6: You find me someone who is willing to stand there
while grown men are running down field twenty miles an hour,
and you may or may not have a block. The
ball is dropping straight from the heavens at who knows
how fast, and if you don't fair catch, you may
get popped. And if you do fair catch and you
think too much about it, then you may drop the football. Look,
I'm the type of guy who usually ducks no smoke,
but when it comes to upon returns out duck that smoke.
Speaker 5: That's a tough job to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I see him in practice doing it, I
would love to and I'm super confident.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I could go out there and do that.
Speaker 4: But then the more you think about it, like actually
practice and doing it with no one running at you
might seem easy. But then when you got grown men
sprinting down the field to smack you, you might not
be that confident.
Speaker 3: It's a hard job to do.
Speaker 4: So look, I understand when guys might take their eyes
off people, but look, it has to be fixed.
Speaker 3: It has to be addressed. Let's get into it. Let's
let's go to the.
Speaker 4: Other person, who is not really happy that I'm having
this person take the day off, but he always keeps
me in check, always keeps me accountable. We got brand
to Sy Gurney here as well. Gem Man, how we doing.
Oh we're gonna have to wait, GM. Your mike might
not be plugged in or turned on. We might have
to switch your headset. I think GMN might be plugged
into a different system. So let's get him squared away
really quickly, because I hear the echo in the back,
but I can't hear you live. We might have to
just address the g men really quickly. Do we got
your fixed yet?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: Not yet?
Speaker 1: Can Okay?
Speaker 4: This is the technical difficulties that we that we have.
I wasn't able to run to the other side of
the glass and help him out. I apologize for that.
Speaker 1: Can you hear me?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 1: We got him?
Speaker 3: There we go, We got the barriers. There we go.
Go ahead, g man, go ahead, ran Well.
Speaker 7: I was just ranting about uh bank Criddle being a
grown man having to take a day off for his birthday.
Speaker 1: And I tell him this every year and every day.
Speaker 7: One thing about Ben He does not care what I
think in an your regard.
Speaker 1: Which which I mean credit to him.
Speaker 7: He probably shouldn't. But but yeah, I gave him a
piece of my mind earlier. He doesn't care. And yeah,
happy birthday, bank Criddle. Have you just sit with for you?
Speaker 4: So gibs like you had just passed the duties on
to me and bred in all serious.
Speaker 1: Bank Credical is an extremely busy individual.
Speaker 7: Yes, and he is working. He's just not doing radio stuff.
He has a business catching up doing a lot of stuff.
So anyway, we'll carry the show. We don't, we don't
need bank credical.
Speaker 1: We got this, we got this.
Speaker 4: All funny games until somebody texts men and then he
has to run in and says, I thought I could
trust you.
Speaker 3: I thought I could trust you, and then everything blows up.
Speaker 7: No, you're right, appreciate, but what I'm but what I'm
wondering is that b what you has it for the
rest of the year.
Speaker 1: And I think we're going to discuss that.
Speaker 7: You guys probably discussed in ernest On on a yesterday's show.
Speaker 1: But I was thinking. You know, when you like take.
Speaker 7: A test in college or high score or whatever, and
the answer comes, it's like, yeah, that's the answer. Then
you started, oh no, no, maybe it's that, Maybe it's this,
And then you think and and then you go with
something else, and then and the test goes back. No,
your first inclination, your first thought was the right one.
That happens a lot. I remember prior to the season,
I was thinking if and this is when was healthy,
and we assumed that would be a full goal that
if something happened to LJ. Martin, it could derail the
entire season, derell it I'm not saying it would just
impact it. No, it's off the rails. It's so impactful
that b what you really really can't acclimate and and
and atone for what that loss would mean to the team.
And I'm wondering, now, wow, should I be going back
to that thought process? Can it be be acclimated for
the thing that really frustrated me? And I hate to
go on this round, but to me, this is the
story of the team right now, is for two weeks
we were told, yeah, you're gonna see some other guys
no one's heard of, right, two weeks to prepare boom.
They don't kind of know what Lj's injury is. Maybe
they don't know. It's a it's a pain threshold thing,
buy and large. From what I understand about it, they
didn't really know how he'd respond.
Speaker 1: I get that, But what I what I have a
problem with is I was.
Speaker 7: Expecting something new from the running backs, right, maybe some
different personnel in there, maybe different wrinkles.
Speaker 1: We didn't see anything different. We saw in Nowaheni get
his two carries.
Speaker 7: We saw Preston Rex go in get maybe four carries,
mostly around the edge, and all that we didn't see
anything different, And I think that's kind of the frustrating
thing with this running back room. We don't know how
healthy LJ is going to be. I think he's going
to play. I think he's going to play every game
for the rest of the season. I don't know how
impactfully he can be. I don't know how limited he
can be. From my understanding that the grade one or
grade to what is it, shoulder separation, whatever it is,
separation from the shoulder is largely a one to three
week recovery process, right, So he's going to be ailing
for the rest of the year. Well, we'll see how
he's able to do it. Maybe with that experience, they
know better what they can expect from LJ.
Speaker 1: Martin. But the story of this.
Speaker 7: Team is just how they have not been able to
really develop a guy to spell LJ.
Speaker 1: Martin. A lot of it was out of their hands.
Hein clear Rapati for some reason.
Speaker 7: Be what you thought the NCAA, which always does be
way you was solid, would do them as solid.
Speaker 1: Again, I'm being.
Speaker 7: Sarcastic here, I'm being facetious. A never does does be
with you in any solids.
Speaker 4: Get a lawyer, please, I'll be why you players listening,
get a lawyer going forward, don't.
Speaker 3: Go through U University. I've heard it too many times.
Speaker 7: Yeah, pokayahaunga. You didn't see that coming out of the program.
Speaker 1: Whatever. Hopefully he comes back.
Speaker 7: He's an amazing talent, and I think Sony Mo if
he was able to come back, that would be one
of the best stories of the year. If he's able
to regain his form come back with his ailment. I'm
not anticipating that. If it does, man, that'll be a
fantastic story if he can show the same versus that
he did last year. But again, you can't bank on
that anyway. What what I'm saying is this is a problem.
This is a big problem. This is an old You
have to alter a lot of what you do offensively.
But I think TCU might be the team where you
can do this effectively. TCU struggles defending the pass run
defense that they're pretty good defending the pass. You can
throw on these guys, and I've been waiting all year
and we've seen a percolating where Chase Roberts just takes
over a game like you did for the Cavemen of
American Fork back in the day.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is the week Parker.
Speaker 7: Kingston that there's some rumblings that that he might not
be a fool go. I don't know, we'll see that.
I think Jojo Phillips could make a big impact if
he comes, but through.
Speaker 5: Sorry, that's why I have to This is I'm I'm
jo Phillips. But that's where I have to come.
Speaker 1: Jojo Phillips is going to wake you up. Yes, yes, yes,
you have strong feelings about Jojo Phillips. Okay, let's hear this.
Speaker 5: I don't know that I have.
Speaker 6: I guess I can't definitively say that I have strong
feelings yet, but I haven't seen anything to disprove me otherwise.
The last time I feel like we truly saw Jojo
really being successful was Southern Illinois to open the season.
Speaker 1: A year ago.
Speaker 6: And look, I think Jojo has more potential than anybody
in that wide receiver room. It's just a question of if.
It's not a question of when. It's a question of
if he has all the potential in the world. We
know he was a good enough athlete to play basketball
with Ronnie James at Sierra Canyon. We know what he is.
We know he hasn't been playing football for a super
long time. Stopped playing football in high school to go
play basketball, and then came back. So he hasn't been
playing football for I guess as long as some others have.
But I feel like we keep saying, oh, man, Jojo this,
And then the first couple of games Portland State, I
realized he didn't play that much. Then Stanford he gets hurt,
and then Texas Tech he didn't really do very much.
So maybe you play the card of well, we don't
know how long he was practicing.
Speaker 5: We don't know how integrated to the offense he was.
I don't know.
Speaker 6: All I know is he did have one drop that
I felt like was pretty big, and I don't know
if it swings the whole game, but it definitely swings that.
Speaker 7: Rise say football with your hands. I've never played football
in my wife. I know that you cat you with
your hands. You don't bring it to your body. You
don't do that.
Speaker 5: So I just agree.
Speaker 6: I still have questions about Jojo Phillips, even though I
do believe he probably has the highest potential of anybody
on this team. We're still waiting to see it, and
we keep talking about it, and at what point do
we say, okay, well, we keep talking about it in
the times past.
Speaker 7: I don't disagree with anything you just said, which makes
it weird that you interjected so passionately with my casual
comment that baby Jojo Phillips can't contribute, because I agree
with every single thing you just said. Maybe he can
be a guy, I don't know, but you can't depend
on him much as Brent Hammer just just pontificated about
out and ran it about for five.
Speaker 3: This is all I'm gonna say. Man, this is all
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4: You guys, I agree, But my point is this, like, look,
I get it, and this is all I gotta say, right,
and this is what I say yesterday and GM, man,
you would agree if this is where I'm gonna get
the coaches caught up and have accountability. You can't say, oh, well,
I've been saying bears a true freshman all year, but
then you say in the post game, well he's not
a true freshman. Take the tag off. That was Colla
Klaney said, right, He said something along to that line.
So I'm gonna get you. If you're Aaron Roderick, and
if you're a vestigat talking, you've been raving about this guy. No,
he got hurt, and then he has five yards of
separation and he's.
Speaker 1: Dropping the football.
Speaker 4: And then we go back the last season and dropping
the football and I know some other stuff that probably
shouldn't be revealed. But it's like you let Kelan Marrin
walk out the door, you let him go, and then
you got this guy and what is that guy done?
Speaker 3: I just want to ask you, what has that guy done?
Speaker 4: So you're telling me if Keilan wasn't on the field
in that Texas that game, he couldn't make impact. I
guarantee you Keelan don't drop that ball. I guarantee you
that Keillen Mary, you can push the ball more vertical.
It just seems to be an issue. And I will
say this, JoJo's better in the run blocking game. Nikiling
not gonna argue that. But we've been waiting for this potential.
I hate he's paper. Well last year they said you
break out, Okay, Gurney the first play of the game,
not first.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was this first game back. All I'm saying
is maybe he could be a guy. I'm saying he is.
Speaker 3: About this. Okay, why do you guys hating on Jojo
so much.
Speaker 6: I don't get it because we expect you getting qualify it.
Speaker 7: You could he's been heard the first game back, Okay, Rusty.
Speaker 4: Bo Okay, okay, I'll give you this. Okay, the minute
he dropped the ball and you throw the ball to
Cody Hagen, White and Cody Hagen get more targets. Well,
I was like, and I'd have to go back and
look at the snap count, right, But to me, look,
this is a very quick decision.
Speaker 3: We're in college athletics.
Speaker 1: G man.
Speaker 4: Even if you're hurt, I'm sorry with now what the
schools having money and with what just happened to James
Franklin and b what you having a chance to go
to the title game? You don't get an opportunity? Well,
he was hurt this year? Okay, well what what did
your production do? Like, look, I'm not trying to be rude.
Cale Bresley came in, got hurt, and he was in the.
Speaker 1: Poor Like, okay, okay, fine, we're arguing somemantics.
Speaker 7: You guys want to be more strident about Jojo.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just kind of massaging it in.
Speaker 7: But we hope you're right. I hope anyway, I hope,
but I want to get to my second rant. Right,
We've talked about the offense and all that, so anyway,
this is on the defensive side of the ball. So
I saw two articles from two prominent sources when the
depth chart count came out and everyone's freaking out that
Justin Kirkland's an a mission from the depth chart, and
the real freakout should come in the form that anc
Purcell is no longer.
Speaker 1: On that debt.
Speaker 3: I didn't even notice that.
Speaker 1: No one nobody noticed this, right Justin Kirkland.
Speaker 7: What to all due respect to the guy, He's played
no impact this season. He's hurt when he when he
did play, it was like you watched the film.
Speaker 1: He's just not physically able to do it.
Speaker 7: So when you when you omit him from the depth chart,
you're not really omitting much of anything because he hasn't
been there. He hasn't played a single ret the last
two games. Hopefully he can come get back, maybe he
realizes that potential, maybe his whole injury and they can
give him another year.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works.
Speaker 7: We'll see, but Anissy Purcell is a guy that has
done things this season. Fans forget how impactful he was
through the first three games of the year.
Speaker 1: He was getting sacks, he was crushing the pocket.
Speaker 7: He was your third best defensive tackle and it wasn't
even close. He was right out there with JT. And
and that brings me to another runt. I want to
I want fans to quit moaning about Keano Tanaba, who
is the impact?
Speaker 1: Well, boy, he was going to be sacking guys and
all that he plays the nose tackle position.
Speaker 7: Yes, he's not the three attack the JT's been doing right,
he's taking up blocks.
Speaker 1: He is doing a tremendous job.
Speaker 7: If he wasn't in there, b ways, defense would not
be nearly as good at posing what they have throughout
the season.
Speaker 5: Go watch the Arizona game.
Speaker 6: If you have questions about Kianu ton of Aasa, watch
the Arizona game and the way Arizona ran the ball
before Keanutanavasa left the game and after Kanutanavas left the game.
And you may not be able to pull up the numbers,
but I'm telling you, if you just go watch film,
even if you don't know that much ball, you will
see a significant difference between how Arizona was able to
run the ball before and.
Speaker 7: After Keanutnavasa is everything be what you expected him to
be and he's getting it done.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to hear it. I'm done with
that that.
Speaker 7: I want to hear more uh concern with a Nissy
Purcell not being in there rather than justin Kirkland. I
want h LJ to be back to former at least
another running back to develop, and if b Wait does that,
they'll be fine.
Speaker 1: But man, there's a lot of question.
Speaker 7: Marks all of a sudden about this team, A lot
of question marks.
Speaker 6: Can I can I push back just to Hair because
I think everything you said is true.
Speaker 5: But I do wonder if maybe we.
Speaker 6: Are taking things just a little bit out of context
because the loss was so bad.
Speaker 5: Maybe are we overreacting?
Speaker 6: I guess is the question, and which I mean this
is sports radio overreacting as part of the job description. However,
I think there's a lot of fans who are also saying, oh, man,
is the sky falling?
Speaker 5: Are we there yet?
Speaker 6: And look, fortunately, I've seen a lot of national media
say this win was more or this loss was more
about how good Texas Tech was and not about how
bad BYU is, which I think is very valid, and
I think it's something we remember.
Speaker 7: And here's one thing that I think fans are mistaken
of and I think I was too, is you were
expecting B WHATU with that week, that bye week to
procure a lot of crazy stuff to put forth, a
lot of development, a lot of schematic work that wow,
B Way he.
Speaker 1: Was on top of this.
Speaker 7: But I think the reason you didn't see that is
because be What You's been on point this entire year.
They're already operating at a high level. They're already game
planning for guys, and I don't think there's as much
for this Bway You team and this coaching staff to
get better at with two weeks to prepare as opposed
to other colleges, because I think that's just a reflection
of just how good B Way You has been week
in and week out in preparation. Does that make sense, Yeah,
So I think we overrated the aspect that B Way
You would be that much better were given two weeks
of preparation. I just think the coaching staff has been
that good, buying large and preparing week in and week out,
whereas two weeks preparation, you're not going to get that
big incline that maybe you saw Iowa State had when
bway you played him, which was clear.
Speaker 1: It was clear Iowa State was able to post something.
But Texas Tech is just very very good.
Speaker 7: The way they closed on Bear in the open field
was man that was outsticks.
Speaker 1: Playing the game.
Speaker 7: When Bear went to go leap, and he's just running
right into into the Texas Tech players, aren't. I mean
that that's the game right there where they're just a
step ahead.
Speaker 1: No, this is a different level, this is a different tier.
Speaker 7: You're not doing this well like you're not doing us
like you did Arizona or even Utah. We're Texas Tech
and that defense is every bit as good as advertised.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you just tip your hat. Okay, settle in.
Speaker 7: We'll play some easier teams, maybe meet up with you,
maybe things will be different.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, that b way he was just beat. Yeah,
I think absolutely beat.
Speaker 6: The problem for me in that game was it just
By's offense didn't match up well with Texas Tech's defense.
Because if we talked a lot about how the one
team who's been able to pull one over on Texas
Tech this season was Arizona State, and you may not
believe we may not believe Arizona State is one of
the best three teams in the Big Twelve, But what
they do really well is Sam Levitt and Jordan Tyson.
When things break down, they can play off script really well.
Speaker 5: And just do things you can't game plan for.
Speaker 6: And the problem with BYU was they're very good when
they're on script, when they're running the ball, when they
can run play action off of the run, and they
can get you in weird spots. The problem was BYU
couldn't get the ball out fast enough because Texas TeX's
pass rush was that good. And then there's not really
the type of guy who's gonna make three guys missing
in the backfield and then launch it fifty yards downfield.
Speaker 5: That's just not who he is.
Speaker 6: What he's gonna do is make three guys miss and
then try to get three or four extra yards. The
problem was Texas X linebackers were keyten on that and
they were daring Bear to push the ball downfield, which
he didn't. Arizona State is a completely different football team,
and Sam Levit is a completely different quarterback. He reminds
me a lot of Zach Wilson and the way he's
able to play off script. I just think and you
saw it in the third quarter when you was able
to just drop back pass and get passes out fast,
they were able to find success.
Speaker 5: But that's not who they are as an offense.
Speaker 6: And you can't change your entire offense a quarter into
the game and try to come up with a new
game plan. And so for those reasons by you just
really wasn't set up for success against I think at
Texas Tech defense that might very well be the best
defense in college football, certainly up there with Ohio State
in Indiana.
Speaker 7: Yes, and I'm gonna make a declaration right here. I'm
gonna give a hot take, and I.
Speaker 1: Don't think it's that hot.
Speaker 7: I think Bear Bachmeier is going to have a phenomenal
game against TCU this week.
Speaker 1: That kid, he is what you thought he was.
Speaker 7: He encountered a major speed bump against Texas Tech. He
was posed with the defensive pressure, and he didn't have
that running game you could rely on. He will learn
from what happened against Texas Tech. Ye, he might see
the most progress from this from last week to this
week than we've seen all year. I really really believe
that this kid is still special. He's still that he
had a speed bump, he had a learning experience, he
did some dumb things against Texas Tech. What I believe
about bear Bachmeer is that he's phenomenal. I still believe
that he's still that guy, and because of that, he's
going to be locked in. He's going to understand the
game plan, how to get over, how to improve, and
I think he's gonna have a phenomenal game against TCU.
I think he's gonna remind fans, Yeah, I'm still that guy.
I'm still that phenom going to that Texas Tech game man.
Everything was about a bear Bachmeer. ESPN was doing the
shorts about him, everything ball.
Speaker 6: That was so awesome when they asked him, hey, when
you're there and you're when you're there in the fourth
quarter and you have to like say some phrases yourself
to get yourself hyped up, Like what do you say?
And he goes, h, yeah, I just I just say
I'm that mother, And I was like.
Speaker 3: What a doll?
Speaker 1: I like that. That was odd, And he is that guy.
Speaker 5: He is that guy.
Speaker 1: He's that guy.
Speaker 7: He will learn. He's going to be fantastic against TCU.
On bear Botmyer he's going to perform, He's going to
understand it, and it's going to be tough because I
think Texas Tech kind of gave the pretext, the the
template of how you defend Bear Botmyer, but I do
not believe TCU has the horses to perhaps do it
nearly as effectively as Texas Tech, and Ben krit Will
pointed this out in my conversation with him earlier today.
Bear is going to be a guy that benefits from
natural grass as opposed to turf throughout his career. Interesting
just because of what he is is not lateral. Movement
is linear. It's guys slipping. It's getting that leverage, which
Bear Botmyer can absolutely do better on.
Speaker 1: A grass service as opposed to turf.
Speaker 7: He's going to be better. I don't think TCU can defend.
TC's got a pretty good defense. They're all right that
they're good at defending, but they're not close to Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: Not close.
Speaker 7: So whatever anyway, that that's my hot take, that's my
big declaration. Bear boch Meyer is going to have a
phenomenal game come Saturday night.
Speaker 6: One last thing on this Bear Bachmeyer thing. If you
are one of those fans, who's freaking out and saying, man,
why didn't Bear win us the game at Texas Tech?
Speaker 5: Why didn't he do more? I want you to just
do this research for yourself. I'm not gonna give it
to you.
Speaker 6: I'll give you one example, but I want you to
go through Texas Tech's games this season and find me
quarterbacks who played that much better than Bear Bachmeyer outside
of Sam Levitt, who played incredible. But I think even
if we're sitting here saying, oh, well, he's a true freshman, see,
you gotta give him that, I don't know that there's
that many quarterbacks in the Big twelve who are gonna
do that much better than bear Bachmeyer did. We went
through yesterday, Devin Dapier didn't play better than than Bear
Bachmeyer against sexty second, and Devin was at home. Avery
Johnson one hundred and ninety nine yards, six or thirteen
or sixteen of thirty three, a touchdown and two picks.
Bear was twenty three to thirty eight, one hundred and
eighty eight yards, one touchdown, one interception. So Bear played
as well as Avery Johnson did at home. He played
as well as Devin dan Beer did at home. And
he did that on the road. So I don't think
this is an issue. I bear just wasn't ready.
Speaker 5: I think this truly was a matter of Texas Tech.
Speaker 6: Is that good because there's not many other quarterbacks who
can do that much better against Texas Tech, true freshman
or not.
Speaker 7: Here's and I hate to go negative again, but but
I'm gonna go negative here is. I think that what
hurts a lot of people is we've been arguing ad
nauseum that there's a lot of national pundits that aren't
taking Bway You seriously. They did not take Bway You
seriously leading up to the game. The people in Vegas
are not taking Bway You seriously. We've been arguing, no,
you have to take this team seriously. Guess what they
were right? We were wrong at least for that one game.
And that's what gnaws on you. If you're a b
Way You fan. Texas Tech is a real contender. That
team can do things in that college football playoff. I
don't know what B Way You can. I don't think
it's an impossibility. I think B Way you have some
wounds to lick and a lot of progress to make.
Whether it be Way You can do it, I don't know,
but Texas Tech is that team. They are very good.
They're a team that could make the semifinals or even
win at all. I believe Texas Tech's.
Speaker 1: Is that good.
Speaker 7: I I have some question more about that quarterback.
Speaker 5: That's what I was. That was my pushback. That was
the only thing I was.
Speaker 7: If they had a healthy Baron Morton, a healthy or
even a healthy Will Hammond, absolutely that could bite them
in the end. But absent that they have everything. They
have every single thing, and I don't think that that's
that's something that's like, now, Texas Tech really wasn't that good.
Speaker 1: No, they're good. They're very, very very.
Speaker 6: I think this year's Texas Tech team would have run
through both Arizona State and IOSA last year.
Speaker 1: I do too.
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess I can't fully say that because
they lost to Arizona State this year, but I just think,
like Big twelve title wise, they would have ran through
the Big Twelve easily last year, and they probably beat
Texas in that.
Speaker 1: Game that Arizona State almost won.
Speaker 7: Anyway, b where he still controls its own destiny true
went out, you got it. I think TCU. I think
the way is gonna get the TCU game. I think
the Cincinnati game is the one you worry about. Yeah,
you're gonna be back on the on the artificial surface
on the road. They have a very good quarterback. That's
the game you worry about. You should No, I can
overlook TCU. I'm not playing right boy, he's not doing that.
But but I'm pretty confident going into this weekend. I
think b Way is gonna figure some things out. I
think they got in the mouth. I think the culture
is very good on this team. Uh, they're gonna rebound.
They're they're gonna get it together, they're gonna fix problems,
and they're gonna put forth a good game against TCU.
Agreed anyway that that's That's kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 4: And if they you know, Deja vull so creep its
way into the building. We got a lot of sound
that we gotta get so we didn't even get to
the nitty gritty.
Speaker 5: Sorry, guys, you're fine.
Speaker 4: You wanted to go to go on the g Man
Now I got fired up on a rant I should have.
Speaker 5: Can I can I bring up one statistic?
Speaker 6: This is the first time that g Man has been
on the program as long as I've been here that
the word girth has not been used before the nitty gritty.
Speaker 3: So wow, oh there we go.
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Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 4: Here's my question of today, guys. Tonight the CFP will
meet again. Where do you think BYU will land in
tonight's college football playoff rankings, still inside the top ten,
drop to eleven or twelve, or even fall further. We're
gonna put that out on Cridal Benjamin on the socials
for you.
Speaker 5: But why or why not? Brett, I'll start with you,
and then g Man I'll turn it over to you. Ah.
Speaker 6: This is such a tough one because you're weighing what
we know about the committee so far based on and
then as well, like do they value Texas Tech? We
know they're gonna value that win over Utah. I don't
think BYU should drop honestly lower than ten, maybe eleven,
But my guess is they'll be sitting no lower than
twelve because what the Committee told us when they put
Notre Dame where they put them was we don't care
about your losses as long as they're good losses. Because
both of Notre Dame's losses were too at the time
a top ten team in Miami and a current top
ten team in Texas A and M and Notre Dame,
even with two losses, is still riding strong. I think
the Committee will look at this the same way a
lot of other national media people are saying, you know what.
This is less about BYU being bad and more about
Texas Tech.
Speaker 5: Being very good to great, maybe even elite.
Speaker 6: I think Texas Tech is a top five team in
college football, but they're not gonna move out any of
those guys in the top seven, so unfortunately, text Tech's
gonna still be sitting there. However, BYU has a win
over a team inside the Committee's top fifteen and a
loss against one of the committee's top ten teams. That
being said, I don't think the Committee will hold it
against BYU that much.
Speaker 5: Especially.
Speaker 6: I think the other thing that helps is that BOU
controls their own destiny. If you don't control your own destiny,
then I think that really takes a lot of weight
off of your shoulders, and it really takes away a
lot of merit from your team. Because BOYU has the
ability to controls what happens to them as far as
they could still win the conference title, and they could
still guarantee them spot in the CFP. I think all
of those things mean the Committee still has high respect
for this BOYU team. It's only one loss, even though
when you lose does matter. I think BYU should be ten,
but should be no lower than twelve.
Speaker 7: I think ten's the ceiling, in twelve's the floor. Agreed
that it's gonna be one of those things. It's gonna
be ten, eleven, twelve. That's why I think it's gonna
be eleven. I'm gonna split the difference eleven. But the
great thing is, I don't think it's as impactful as
a lot of fans would think in prior years, just because,
as Brett said, b Way You has a path to
validate itself.
Speaker 1: B Way you can prove that it should be there
and just quite.
Speaker 7: All the doubts and the and the polls will they're
not being held hostage. B Way, he wins the Big
twelve Championship game, they're in, they lose it, they're out
as a two loss team. They're not getting in as
a two loss team. It's not gonna happen. So yeah,
just do it and just win that Big twelve championship.
That's what you have to do. It's very very simple
with b WAU football right now. So I honestly don't care.
I do not care what b Way You's ranked when
these polls come out tonight because the pathway is very
very clear, and it's irrespective of any ranking b Way
you has currently because the pathways there anyway, I'm getting
repetitive here, but that those are.
Speaker 4: My thoughts still, Okay, No, I totally understand. I'm with
both of you guys. It's gonna be between ten to twelve. Now,
if Utah would have played, they want to buy this week.
Just want to remind people. I know that Bay you
beat them, and what the committee says, oh, they can't
go above. But if Utah would have played and would
have blown out Baylor and looked the way they did
against Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Then b what you would definitely be underneath him.
Speaker 1: But because I don't, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: You still so you're talking.
Speaker 7: I don't think so, because if you're a committee member,
how can you validate Hey, b Way, you still has
one less loss than Utah and b Ware you beat Utah, Erico,
I'm gonna rank Utah ahead.
Speaker 1: Of b what you I I don't see how anyone
can do that.
Speaker 6: But you're speaking about a coach Well committee, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: I had use this.
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe I can give it a more credible you
would but that's really believe that.
Speaker 1: But to me, that's such an easy thing.
Speaker 7: I agree that I I I'm just not as cynical
as you guys, I guess in that regard. I I
just don't think that anybody on that committee or the
majority would do.
Speaker 3: That, and we don't know it's toff.
Speaker 4: And the only reasonhy I brought it up is Utah
would have had to play Baylor and blow them out.
If Utah looked the way that they looked against Cincinnati,
then that's why I make that argument. If they don't,
if they play in a close ballgame, no, not even close.
If they would have happened, and it doesn't matter because
they both thrown byas Baylor in Utah, but if they
would have played Baylor and blown them out like forty
five to fourteen, and it'd been on the road, I
could see the committee maybe making an argument, but it
doesn't matter. It's not gonna be the way. I think
bou comes in tonight at twelve. I think that's where
I got them. I think they drop them a few spots.
I think we see the committees face a little bit
of Okay, you're gonna drop BYU, you know, down five
spots twelve. You'll keep them in, but if they lose,
they could be out Utah might even drop. But that's
where I see it because I still believe this committee
wants to get as many big ten and SEC teams in.
I do believe that right, and I believe I use
one loss to Texas Tech. Luckily Texas Tech is Brady.
You have elaborated already how good of a team they are.
Is helping actually byuse mix of staying in the top twelve.
But I don't think they'll be lower than twelve. You
can't put them below Utah right now. But look at
this is gonna all come down to, you know, honestly,
you know, does the committee validate? Do they actually show? Okay,
we're not gonna value you know, these two loss teams.
Are we gonna respect what we've been saying and so
far they have, so we're giving them benefited out. But look,
I always know a good saying. You give people an inch,
g Man Brett, what do they do? They take a mile?
So we'll find out at six pm Mountain time APM
Eastern is when I think they'll'll discuss and have the
new rankings. But are you worried, Cougarnation, Are you worried
that BYU will be in the top ten, or if
they'll drop further than twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The other thing is you have to look at who
they're putting ahead of BYU, and I still don't because
I think if that were to happen, then Texas would
probably be in over BYU, which would make me upset
a because Texas or Texas is a seven and two team,
they're a two loss team, and one of their losses
came against the Florida team, who just benched their starting
quarterback this last week. So I don't know that Texas's
loss at Florida looks good at all. I realized the
other one was against Ohio State, but the loss against
Florida looks horrible. And then I don't think Oklahoma, And
then Oklahoma's loss came was against Texas and then Ole Miss,
which is a good loss, but the Texas loss isn't.
So both of those things, I think bau's resume is
better than both those schools, especially considering yu's best win
and their only loss.
Speaker 5: But again, you have to look at this.
Speaker 6: From the committee's perspective and not just this is what
the analytics say, this is what the metrics say, because
again you're working with the committee that I don't know
if using flawed is the right word, but they don't
always look at things the same way that we do.
And the other thing that I think is important to
remember here is that it's about when you lose. Losing
in the beginning of the season, as we're probably gonna
see with Texas tonight, is better than losing towards the
end of the season when they're actually making these rankings,
because where you're trending and when you lose, that's one
of the things that the committee remembers is what taste
did you leave in my mouth most recently? And I
think with BYU they may say, oh, well BYU lost, Yeah, well,
Texas lost twice. The problem is we don't remember those
losses as much because they happened longer ago, so we
don't put the same weight on them. Even though Texas
and Oklahoma both have a worse loss than BYU's one.
Speaker 4: You always bring this up and it's not football. I mean,
excuse me, it's not basketball. You don't get credit for
beating the good team in the end. It like your
loss affects you then and there, like a loss in
football later in this season is more detrimental than a
loss in basketball because they don't take everything into totality.
Speaker 3: Like that's just not how it goes.
Speaker 4: AKA last year, Like losing two games last year, is
it bad necessarily for BYU. No, but it's when they
lost and knocked them out of the Toidle game. That's
just how it is. Those are the rules. You have
to play within them. But I'm looking at this right now,
BYU seven, Texas Tech eight. I mean, ideally you would
hope they would just switch them, but Oregon one, you know,
Norre Dame ended up winning. Look, I'm a g man.
They might be eleven if they want to put Texas
above them. Look, I think they like the SEC, so
I could see Texas sneaking in above them. It's crazy
because they're a two lost team. Ideally, what they should
be is this. Ideally it should be Texas Tech should
replace BYU. If anything, it really should be top five,
but it won't happen. Texas Tech should be seventh, organ
should be eighth, Norre Dame should be nine, and by
You should be ten. You know, if you're gonna do
that ideally, if that's what they wanted to do, because
then you wouldn't be speaking out both sides of your mouth.
Texas should they shouldn't they shouldn't be shouldn't be like that.
And that's why, Jim, I think your point is the
best of eleven. That's why I got them at twelve.
I could see him being like, you know what, let's
just go ahead and move you down. Actually not only
under Texas, but let's also move you down under Oklahomas. Well,
I really see that being the case, because that's what
the committee does.
Speaker 5: That there's no way Oklahoma deserves to be higher than
bas I.
Speaker 7: Guess what's really hurting Bwau's cause is that everybody saw
that game.
Speaker 5: Right, That's what it was the college.
Speaker 1: That's a great point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody, you got embarrassed offensively on national It was
not pretty. Look if they'd have scored that second touchdown
and they'd have lost, you know, if it had been
fourteen twenty search, even if they get the twenty nine,
maybe you can say, Okay, they stayed top tim but
like because there was nothing. I mean, look, you got
you got embarrassed on national television by the Acre.
Speaker 6: Imagine how much worse it would be though if they
didn't score that time. Oh man, dude, Like I shouted out,
b Yu would be dropping till like twenty.
Speaker 3: Straight up they dropped.
Speaker 4: No, I agree, I think they fall out of the
top fifteen and Rifley so if they didn't even put
up points or show anything, but look all all things aside,
I think was the one thing that that did.
Speaker 3: And Jurdy you know this, Brett you know this.
Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 3: NFL scouts look for talent.
Speaker 4: And I think Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glasker booked themselves,
as you know NFL draft picks between the third and
the fourth.
Speaker 3: Round in my opinion, with that game.
Speaker 4: Now, obviously they have to be healthy, but I think
that booked it because watching that tape and watching Isaiah
and watching jackets, if I'm an NFL scout, is like,
these two are the best two players on BYU's defense
and it is not even close.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 7: No, I I was just gonna say, I think maybe
the next NFL prospect behind those two Right now, this
might sound crazy to say, and unless you look at
the numbers, I think Evan Johnson.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, follow, but I don't hate that either.
Speaker 3: Evan Johnson.
Speaker 1: I think Evin Johnson is an NFL cornerback. I agree,
with you.
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, he's he's he's he's locked up, he's
lock up.
Speaker 7: He has he has good size, he's playing really well
this year, and he's anyway, man, I'm getting on the tangent.
I getting it on the absolute tangent. Okay, and he's
gonna kill that forty times. Anyway, I just had that thought,
look at me. I know Evan Johnson had the one
pass that was caught.
Speaker 4: They picked on Trey a little bit in that game,
but no, I think Evan showed his good tip against
Texas Techon. I mean, Evan really only got beat once
on that ball. That Baron mor Than just threw it
for a prayer and Evan really should have made him pay.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 3: It was weird. Yeah, that was.
Speaker 4: One of the weirdest plays I've seen Evan Johnson in
coverage because normally what Evan does and GM you tweeted
this out and I agree with you on along the
same lines of he goes up, boxes you out and
he just makes to play on the ball and it
was just like he was waiting.
Speaker 3: It was just so weird.
Speaker 6: Well, and I think the other thing was like, sometimes
it's better to be the guy who's not in your
best position because you get the opportunity for momentum and
to come back to the ball. If you're sitting underneath
of it, you don't have any room, any speed, any movement.
And that was the case on that play where he
was just sitting underneath waiting for it, and the receiver
because he was behind, was able to push forward, get
momentum and get in front of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 7: And he has better size than Jacob Robinson. He's got
what at least two inches on Jacob. I think he's
faster than Jacob.
Speaker 1: Jacob's versatility was outstanding.
Speaker 7: Thought, I don't know if Evan's gonna have that, but
I'm looking at him. I think he's one of the
best cornerbacks already I've ever seen it BYU think he's fantastic,
and the numbers back it up. The greats come out.
He's he's one of the best in the league. He's
very very good. So yeah, b wa, he got an
absolute gem and that kid no.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at it up, he's got
three interceptions, four pass the breakups, so passive breakup you know,
efficiency is a total of seven, right, because that's pbu's
and I N T s. He had a cred day
against Iowa State, six total tackles in the game.
Speaker 3: He also had an interception.
Speaker 4: I mean he had the pick six against East Carolina
and career two interceptions in that game. Look, Evan's got
the I think the clay and the tape for it.
So I agree with you, man, that's the that's the
next guy up. And look, I think Trey uh is
a hard worker. I think if he puts in the work,
he can find himself. Maybe in that conversation as well,
I think that's potential. Definitely has potential, right, like not
saying he's a book right now, but he's got the
potential to get there.
Speaker 3: So look, I mean, if that's what you got in Evans,
a redshirt.
Speaker 4: Junior and Trey's a true sophomore, you can get both
those guys back next year and that just helps your defense. Look,
you're gonna probably lose Isaiah and Jack if we're gonna
be honest, and Keanu this year. Maybe they all come back.
But look, I think that Brett brings up a good point.
I think Folatow is a guy that they're gonna like,
you know, Tannerwall I think could get himself into a
camp just of how disciplined he is.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he would.
Speaker 4: Necessarily get drafted, but look, I just Ba, You's got
guys on this defense, and I think that's the hard
and soul of this team. Is that until we said
this g Man yesterday, and I guess I'll get your
take on it. Look, I think they're at the point
of if by you is saying it that you need
to play complimentary football, it's time to upgrade the offense.
And what I mean is you got the four star
running back LJ. Martin NFL draft pick. You see the
difference right leading the big twelve and rushing. And Ben
said that yesterday he thinks that Chase is a good
complimentary piece, and I think get ahead.
Speaker 1: Not no no.
Speaker 7: I just wanted to point this out because I don't
think anyone's talking about this because of the nature of
the game. Because be what you got roun Jonathan Kabeya
was out there almost every single down playing that nickel position.
He was and why and why didn't you know he
was out there is because they were not throwing against him.
That's a big thing for this defense. Getting Jonathan Kabea back.
He's back now playing that nickel position. That's going to
be a big boon to this defense. We raved about
this guy prior to this season. He's been hurt and
I think this is this is a big thing moving
forward that no one's focused on. I think the addition
of Jonathan Cabea, who we all like a lot, is
going to be a big thing for this defense moving forward.
Speaker 4: I think you bring up a very good point, and look,
I don't think I'm saying anything that not, but I
saw it.
Speaker 3: I think it was on Jarem Jordan's Twitter. He was
the one that put it out there.
Speaker 4: But I think Jay Hill said today, I think this
morning on the coordinate just scording that sophomore Tommy praz
Is likely will red shirt this season and they hope
to get him back for the postseason.
Speaker 3: It doesn't count against the red shirt, So all.
Speaker 4: The bowl games of the games the bou if they
were to make it to the CFP of the Big
Toe title, don't count towards the season because those technically
would be bowl games. It's not towards the season this postseason.
But that's a big loss. Gi Man and Brett. I
think not having Tommy who's likely to red shirt. Now,
that's a big loss for the secondary because when he
was at the nickel position. Nothing against Kaba you can
throw on b Yu. Tommy his LinkedIn size. Quarterbacks don't
want to turn the football over. So how big of
a loss is that Tommy Prass is likely to red shirt.
Speaker 7: Well, you're talking about a guy that they've been playing
without for quite a while now, So it's not one
of those things like, oh wow, BB he's gonna be
a tough situation now because they've they've largely atone for that.
We like Tommy, we like him a lot. Slow position
is not his position. He's gonna play free safety. He's
gonna slought in for tanner Wall next season. He's gonna
be very good. He's gonna be extremely good of that position.
B Way's secondary could be absolutely phenomenal next year. Tanner
Wall's gonna be tough. Losing Tanner Wall is gonna be tough.
He's very very good. But but I think they have
guys that can step up and do that. You get
Raider to Mooney back, Falla Tel's back, Everybody's back, Morey
Bombers I think might be tougher to replace than I
think a lot of fans think.
Speaker 1: But but I think he can replace that.
Speaker 7: You're still gonna have Trey Alexander, You're gonna have Evan Johnson,
You're gonna have Jonathan Kabay, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And some other guys. So so yeah, I.
Speaker 7: Man, I'm bullish on this BWA defense next year. Man,
We're getting on all sorts of sorts of tangents, aren't we.
Speaker 1: This is off season talk.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I mean you are, and I mean, look,
what my point was, to bring it back full circle,
was about the Texas Tech game and if by you
wouldn't have scored. The point was that Jack Kelly and
Isaiah Glasker put out a good films, So not always
if one side to the ball does bad, does it
hurts the entire team. What was showcased on Saturday, g
Man and Brett was Bo's defenses. It can compete, and
I think it's up there. It's the second best defense
in the Big Twelve behind text Tech. And I don't
think anybody's doubted that. That was the point of the
tangent of the ramp. But guys, but that's our that's
our question. In Polar today. Tell us where you agree,
where you disagree, chimeing, I want to hear your thoughts again,
just to remind people where do you think BYU will
land in tonight's college football playoff rankings? Still inside the
top ten, drop to eleven, to twelve, or even fall further.
Why or why not? We will find out definitely later
to my just a reminder to give some context and
maybe why I know I said twelve g men's at eleven.
Brett said, if not ten, between eleven and twelve BYU
and the AP pole and the AFCA Coaches poll, they're
ranked both at twelve. So is that telling? How much
of that will the committee take into a factor? B
What you dropped in was it was efficiency, bread or
win margin or strength to resume? It was from seven
to tenth. So still in that top ten. So I
think BAU would be somewhere top twelve. If they dropped
out of the top twelve, I think we all would
be shocked, no doubt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 6: There's there's no way they should drop out of the
top twelve. And frankly, when you look at who would
be jumping them, there's just if there's no world in
which I think Oklahoma and Texas deserve to be over BYU.
But you know what, you still have the opportunity to
win meaningful games, to beat TCU, to beat Cincinnati, and
control your own destiny. The question then you have to
get into is because I'm basly, if you win the
conference title, you're in. But the question we now have
to start asking of the committee is does the committee
believe that BYU is good enough? If they win out
and they lose in the Big twelve title? Does the
committee still believe BYU is good enough to make the
playoffs that way? Now, I said yesterday the ESPN Playoff
predictor gives BYU an eighty seven percent chance of making
the playoff if they were to win out and still
lose to Texas Tech. But that's not a guarantee. And
I think if BYU is, if BYU is at ten
or eleven, that tells me the committee still thinks BYU
is good enough even with.
Speaker 5: A loss to Texas Tech.
Speaker 6: If they're anywhere or twelve or after, then you start
wondering how good does the committee believe this BYU team
is and.
Speaker 5: What work do they have to do?
Speaker 6: And you know what, maybe if you blow out at
TCU or Cincinnati, maybe you're able to alleviate that, but
but who knows. It's gonna be really interesting to see
what the Committee decides to do with BYU tonight. Honestly,
like from a national stage, I think BYU is the
biggest question in the entirety of the CFP rankings.
Speaker 5: We know what everybody else is.
Speaker 6: What the committee decides to do with PAU, I think
is the biggest question for the committee tonight.
Speaker 3: You bring up a good point. I'll finish on this.
Speaker 4: Look, you still gotta account for the G six team
that will get in and others.
Speaker 3: But I'm just gonna say this.
Speaker 4: If you're a top probably five or six team seven
and you're in the SEC at Big twelve or Big ten,
you're probably safe. But once you get down to that ten, eleven, twelve, look, BA,
you should be coming in at that last team because
if you're looking at the SEC right now, Georgia, Ole,
miss Texas, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Missouri all in the top
twenty five on the outskirts Texas eleven, Oklahoma twelve, they
should not be ranked above BA. If you don't make
it to the title game, you should be punished for that.
You should be punished as well for that and lose
your and dropping your rankings. Because if a team or
to have an opportunity to go to the cost Fotball Playoff, losing,
the committee say we don't hold that against you, they
should be in over some of it didn't because you
didn't play well enough to be in your conference matchup
from a logical standpoint in my opion, so right now
that would be the Aggies in Alabama both who should
get in. And then like I said, Georgian Ole Miss
will be safe. But this is more for Vanderbilt, Texas
and Oklahoma they should not get in in my opinion.
In that regard, it should be BYU just based on
that now would feel that way, not just for BYU,
about any Big twelve team. I felt that last year
with Arizona State, and I will say, look, I think
this is the year the Big Twelve should get two
teams in between Texas Tech and BYU, no doubt, but
gotta have one or two losses, and that second loss
has to come in the title game. It cannot come
before in the season because you will not get a
three loss Big ten excuse me Big twelve team in.
There's just no way the committee will put a three
loss Big twelve team in over multiple SEC or Big
ten two loss teams that don't see it. It will
not happen. Guys, we need to go to break. We've
gone too long. But that was your band of today.
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