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Speaker 2: It's time for Cougar Sports, part of Utah's ESPN Radio network.

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Here's your host, work.

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Speaker 3: Them into Cougar Sports here on Wamper Now and the fan.

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This is Ronald the three Man.

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Speaker 4: We were here probably wondering where's Ben kribble at, where's

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his voice? Some may think, oh, he'll join us later

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in the show. That's not true. He is not going

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to be joining us today at all. Some might disagree

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with that. Today is a very special day for the Criddler,

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for the Mongoose. It is his birthday today. It is

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Ben's birthday, So happy birthday to Benjamin J.

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Speaker 3: Criddle.

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Speaker 4: He will not be joining I told him you must

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take the day off. Some don't agree with that decision,

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but I don't care. That's why I get to be

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the execut producer of the program. And if they want

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to call her debate the shots to come take my

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job and you can do so. But I look, Ben

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does a lot already for the show. He helps out

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a lot, He's got a small business. I just felt

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like he needed to be celebrated today to be able

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to spend time with his lovely wife and his kiddos.

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So I say, hey, look, I'll hold the show down.

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We have other codes that can help out. We always

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got you know, the right hand man, my right hand

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man as well, hopefully I'm his right hand man. A

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little w W reference for there. People can help chime in.

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You take the day off. So without further ado, I

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just want to start off by.

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Speaker 3: Giving happy birthdays.

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Speaker 4: So happy birthday, Ben, look at day over thirty, So

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enjoy your day with your.

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Speaker 5: Family and everybody, all of us, the team, myself.

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Speaker 1: Nick and fred Ernie.

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Speaker 3: So I just wanted to say that.

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Speaker 4: Uh but guys, we're live from the one o three

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Speaker 3: Today and the rest of the starts of the cast.

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Speaker 4: For this Veterans Day edition of Cougar Sports. He stands

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in at five eleven six feet depending on the day.

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If he gets an adjustment with this hips and if

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it's back thinking of Lord extremely about one to ninety

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five might need him out there because some people still

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to drop passes and punts.

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Speaker 5: He might be able to do it for us. Maybe

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it's hard than we think. We don't know.

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Speaker 4: I got Brett always bringing the Hammer, former sideline reporter

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from bou TV and part of the Believe Nowhere Brett,

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How are you going today?

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 6: I'm usually the type of guy who dodges absolutely none

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of the spoke.

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Speaker 5: I usually am all here for. But I will tell

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you this. There was only one thing in all of.

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Speaker 6: High school football that I said, ah, I'd really rather

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not do that, and it was returning punts. Returning kicks

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I don't even I think is less scary than returning punts.

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Speaker 5: And look, we're obviously gonna have to address it. Silani

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addresses it in his media availability. This thing with Parker

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Kingston's got to be worked out. Obviously, they pulled him off.

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Put return or one put it back on. We'll get

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into it, but I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 6: You find me someone who is willing to stand there

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while grown men are running down field twenty miles an hour,

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and you may or may not have a block. The

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ball is dropping straight from the heavens at who knows

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how fast, and if you don't fair catch, you may

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get popped. And if you do fair catch and you

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think too much about it, then you may drop the football. Look,

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I'm the type of guy who usually ducks no smoke,

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but when it comes to upon returns out duck that smoke.

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Speaker 5: That's a tough job to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when I see him in practice doing it, I

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I could go out there and do that.

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Speaker 4: But then the more you think about it, like actually

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practice and doing it with no one running at you

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might seem easy. But then when you got grown men

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sprinting down the field to smack you, you might not

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Speaker 3: It's a hard job to do.

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Speaker 4: So look, I understand when guys might take their eyes

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off people, but look, it has to be fixed.

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Speaker 3: It has to be addressed. Let's get into it. Let's

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let's go to the.

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Speaker 4: Other person, who is not really happy that I'm having

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this person take the day off, but he always keeps

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me in check, always keeps me accountable. We got brand

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to Sy Gurney here as well. Gem Man, how we doing.

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Oh we're gonna have to wait, GM. Your mike might

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not be plugged in or turned on. We might have

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to switch your headset. I think GMN might be plugged

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into a different system. So let's get him squared away

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really quickly, because I hear the echo in the back,

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but I can't hear you live. We might have to

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just address the g men really quickly. Do we got

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your fixed yet?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: Not yet?

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Speaker 1: Can Okay?

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Speaker 4: This is the technical difficulties that we that we have.

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the glass and help him out. I apologize for that.

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Speaker 1: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 1: We got him?

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Speaker 3: There we go, We got the barriers. There we go.

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Go ahead, g man, go ahead, ran Well.

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Speaker 7: I was just ranting about uh bank Criddle being a

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grown man having to take a day off for his birthday.

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Speaker 1: And I tell him this every year and every day.

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Speaker 7: One thing about Ben He does not care what I

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think in an your regard.

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Speaker 1: Which which I mean credit to him.

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Speaker 7: He probably shouldn't. But but yeah, I gave him a

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piece of my mind earlier. He doesn't care. And yeah,

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happy birthday, bank Criddle. Have you just sit with for you?

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Speaker 4: So gibs like you had just passed the duties on

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to me and bred in all serious.

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Speaker 1: Bank Credical is an extremely busy individual.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and he is working. He's just not doing radio stuff.

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So anyway, we'll carry the show. We don't, we don't

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Speaker 1: We got this, we got this.

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Speaker 4: All funny games until somebody texts men and then he

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has to run in and says, I thought I could

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Speaker 3: I thought I could trust you, and then everything blows up.

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Speaker 7: No, you're right, appreciate, but what I'm but what I'm

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wondering is that b what you has it for the

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Speaker 1: And I think we're going to discuss that.

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Speaker 7: You guys probably discussed in ernest On on a yesterday's show.

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Speaker 1: But I was thinking. You know, when you like take.

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Speaker 7: A test in college or high score or whatever, and

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the answer comes, it's like, yeah, that's the answer. Then

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you started, oh no, no, maybe it's that, Maybe it's this,

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something else, and then and the test goes back. No,

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your first inclination, your first thought was the right one.

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and we assumed that would be a full goal that

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if something happened to LJ. Martin, it could derail the

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entire season, derell it I'm not saying it would just

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impact it. No, it's off the rails. It's so impactful

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that b what you really really can't acclimate and and

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and atone for what that loss would mean to the team.

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to that thought process? Can it be be acclimated for

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the thing that really frustrated me? And I hate to

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go on this round, but to me, this is the

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story of the team right now, is for two weeks

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we were told, yeah, you're gonna see some other guys

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no one's heard of, right, two weeks to prepare boom.

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They don't kind of know what Lj's injury is. Maybe

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they don't know. It's a it's a pain threshold thing,

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buy and large. From what I understand about it, they

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didn't really know how he'd respond.

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Speaker 1: I get that, But what I what I have a

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Speaker 7: Expecting something new from the running backs, right, maybe some

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different personnel in there, maybe different wrinkles.

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Speaker 1: We didn't see anything different. We saw in Nowaheni get

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his two carries.

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Speaker 7: We saw Preston Rex go in get maybe four carries,

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mostly around the edge, and all that we didn't see

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anything different, And I think that's kind of the frustrating

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thing with this running back room. We don't know how

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healthy LJ is going to be. I think he's going

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to play. I think he's going to play every game

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for the rest of the season. I don't know how

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impactfully he can be. I don't know how limited he

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can be. From my understanding that the grade one or

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grade to what is it, shoulder separation, whatever it is,

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separation from the shoulder is largely a one to three

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week recovery process, right, So he's going to be ailing

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for the rest of the year. Well, we'll see how

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he's able to do it. Maybe with that experience, they

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Speaker 1: Martin. But the story of this.

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Speaker 7: Team is just how they have not been able to

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really develop a guy to spell LJ.

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Speaker 1: Martin. A lot of it was out of their hands.

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Hein clear Rapati for some reason.

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Speaker 7: Be what you thought the NCAA, which always does be

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way you was solid, would do them as solid.

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Speaker 1: Again, I'm being.

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Speaker 7: Sarcastic here, I'm being facetious. A never does does be

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with you in any solids.

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Speaker 4: Get a lawyer, please, I'll be why you players listening,

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get a lawyer going forward, don't.

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Speaker 3: Go through U University. I've heard it too many times.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, pokayahaunga. You didn't see that coming out of the program.

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Speaker 1: Whatever. Hopefully he comes back.

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Speaker 7: He's an amazing talent, and I think Sony Mo if

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he was able to come back, that would be one

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of the best stories of the year. If he's able

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to regain his form come back with his ailment. I'm

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not anticipating that. If it does, man, that'll be a

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fantastic story if he can show the same versus that

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he did last year. But again, you can't bank on

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that anyway. What what I'm saying is this is a problem.

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This is a big problem. This is an old You

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But I think TCU might be the team where you

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can do this effectively. TCU struggles defending the pass run

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defense that they're pretty good defending the pass. You can

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throw on these guys, and I've been waiting all year

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and we've seen a percolating where Chase Roberts just takes

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over a game like you did for the Cavemen of

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American Fork back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is the week Parker.

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Speaker 7: Kingston that there's some rumblings that that he might not

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be a fool go. I don't know, we'll see that.

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I think Jojo Phillips could make a big impact if

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he comes, but through.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, that's why I have to This is I'm I'm

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jo Phillips. But that's where I have to come.

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Speaker 1: Jojo Phillips is going to wake you up. Yes, yes, yes,

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you have strong feelings about Jojo Phillips. Okay, let's hear this.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that I have.

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Speaker 6: I guess I can't definitively say that I have strong

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feelings yet, but I haven't seen anything to disprove me otherwise.

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The last time I feel like we truly saw Jojo

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really being successful was Southern Illinois to open the season.

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Speaker 1: A year ago.

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Speaker 6: And look, I think Jojo has more potential than anybody

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in that wide receiver room. It's just a question of if.

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It's not a question of when. It's a question of

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if he has all the potential in the world. We

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know he was a good enough athlete to play basketball

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with Ronnie James at Sierra Canyon. We know what he is.

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We know he hasn't been playing football for a super

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long time. Stopped playing football in high school to go

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play basketball, and then came back. So he hasn't been

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playing football for I guess as long as some others have.

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But I feel like we keep saying, oh, man, Jojo this,

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And then the first couple of games Portland State, I

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realized he didn't play that much. Then Stanford he gets hurt,

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and then Texas Tech he didn't really do very much.

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So maybe you play the card of well, we don't

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know how long he was practicing.

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Speaker 5: We don't know how integrated to the offense he was.

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I don't know.

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Speaker 6: All I know is he did have one drop that

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I felt like was pretty big, and I don't know

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if it swings the whole game, but it definitely swings that.

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Speaker 7: Rise say football with your hands. I've never played football

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in my wife. I know that you cat you with

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your hands. You don't bring it to your body. You

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don't do that.

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Speaker 5: So I just agree.

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Speaker 6: I still have questions about Jojo Phillips, even though I

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do believe he probably has the highest potential of anybody

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on this team. We're still waiting to see it, and

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we keep talking about it, and at what point do

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we say, okay, well, we keep talking about it in

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the times past.

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Speaker 7: I don't disagree with anything you just said, which makes

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it weird that you interjected so passionately with my casual

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comment that baby Jojo Phillips can't contribute, because I agree

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with every single thing you just said. Maybe he can

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be a guy, I don't know, but you can't depend

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on him much as Brent Hammer just just pontificated about

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out and ran it about for five.

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Speaker 3: This is all I'm gonna say. Man, this is all

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I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 4: You guys, I agree, But my point is this, like, look,

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I get it, and this is all I gotta say, right,

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and this is what I say yesterday and GM, man,

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you would agree if this is where I'm gonna get

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the coaches caught up and have accountability. You can't say, oh, well,

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I've been saying bears a true freshman all year, but

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then you say in the post game, well he's not

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a true freshman. Take the tag off. That was Colla

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Klaney said, right, He said something along to that line.

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So I'm gonna get you. If you're Aaron Roderick, and

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if you're a vestigat talking, you've been raving about this guy. No,

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he got hurt, and then he has five yards of

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separation and he's.

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Speaker 1: Dropping the football.

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Speaker 4: And then we go back the last season and dropping

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the football and I know some other stuff that probably

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shouldn't be revealed. But it's like you let Kelan Marrin

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walk out the door, you let him go, and then

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you got this guy and what is that guy done?

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Speaker 3: I just want to ask you, what has that guy done?

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Speaker 4: So you're telling me if Keilan wasn't on the field

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in that Texas that game, he couldn't make impact. I

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guarantee you Keelan don't drop that ball. I guarantee you

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that Keillen Mary, you can push the ball more vertical.

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It just seems to be an issue. And I will

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say this, JoJo's better in the run blocking game. Nikiling

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not gonna argue that. But we've been waiting for this potential.

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I hate he's paper. Well last year they said you

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break out, Okay, Gurney the first play of the game,

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not first.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it was this first game back. All I'm saying

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is maybe he could be a guy. I'm saying he is.

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Speaker 3: About this. Okay, why do you guys hating on Jojo

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so much.

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Speaker 6: I don't get it because we expect you getting qualify it.

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Speaker 7: You could he's been heard the first game back, Okay, Rusty.

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Speaker 4: Bo Okay, okay, I'll give you this. Okay, the minute

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he dropped the ball and you throw the ball to

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Cody Hagen, White and Cody Hagen get more targets. Well,

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I was like, and I'd have to go back and

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look at the snap count, right, But to me, look,

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this is a very quick decision.

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Speaker 3: We're in college athletics.

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Speaker 1: G man.

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Speaker 4: Even if you're hurt, I'm sorry with now what the

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schools having money and with what just happened to James

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Franklin and b what you having a chance to go

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to the title game? You don't get an opportunity? Well,

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he was hurt this year? Okay, well what what did

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your production do? Like, look, I'm not trying to be rude.

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Cale Bresley came in, got hurt, and he was in the.

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Speaker 1: Poor Like, okay, okay, fine, we're arguing somemantics.

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Speaker 7: You guys want to be more strident about Jojo.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm just kind of massaging it in.

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Speaker 7: But we hope you're right. I hope anyway, I hope,

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but I want to get to my second rant. Right,

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We've talked about the offense and all that, so anyway,

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this is on the defensive side of the ball. So

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I saw two articles from two prominent sources when the

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depth chart count came out and everyone's freaking out that

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Justin Kirkland's an a mission from the depth chart, and

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the real freakout should come in the form that anc

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Purcell is no longer.

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Speaker 1: On that debt.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even notice that.

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Speaker 1: No one nobody noticed this, right Justin Kirkland.

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Speaker 7: What to all due respect to the guy, He's played

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no impact this season. He's hurt when he when he

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did play, it was like you watched the film.

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Speaker 1: He's just not physically able to do it.

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Speaker 7: So when you when you omit him from the depth chart,

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you're not really omitting much of anything because he hasn't

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been there. He hasn't played a single ret the last

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two games. Hopefully he can come get back, maybe he

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realizes that potential, maybe his whole injury and they can

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give him another year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that works.

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Speaker 7: We'll see, but Anissy Purcell is a guy that has

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done things this season. Fans forget how impactful he was

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through the first three games of the year.

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Speaker 1: He was getting sacks, he was crushing the pocket.

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Speaker 7: He was your third best defensive tackle and it wasn't

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even close. He was right out there with JT. And

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and that brings me to another runt. I want to

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I want fans to quit moaning about Keano Tanaba, who

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is the impact?

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Speaker 1: Well, boy, he was going to be sacking guys and

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all that he plays the nose tackle position.

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Speaker 7: Yes, he's not the three attack the JT's been doing right,

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he's taking up blocks.

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Speaker 1: He is doing a tremendous job.

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Speaker 7: If he wasn't in there, b ways, defense would not

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be nearly as good at posing what they have throughout

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the season.

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Speaker 5: Go watch the Arizona game.

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Speaker 6: If you have questions about Kianu ton of Aasa, watch

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the Arizona game and the way Arizona ran the ball

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before Keanutanavasa left the game and after Kanutanavas left the game.

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And you may not be able to pull up the numbers,

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but I'm telling you, if you just go watch film,

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even if you don't know that much ball, you will

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see a significant difference between how Arizona was able to

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run the ball before and.

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Speaker 7: After Keanutnavasa is everything be what you expected him to

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be and he's getting it done.

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to hear it. I'm done with

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that that.

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Speaker 7: I want to hear more uh concern with a Nissy

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Purcell not being in there rather than justin Kirkland. I

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want h LJ to be back to former at least

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another running back to develop, and if b Wait does that,

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they'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: But man, there's a lot of question.

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Speaker 7: Marks all of a sudden about this team, A lot

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of question marks.

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Speaker 6: Can I can I push back just to Hair because

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I think everything you said is true.

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Speaker 5: But I do wonder if maybe we.

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Speaker 6: Are taking things just a little bit out of context

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because the loss was so bad.

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Speaker 5: Maybe are we overreacting?

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Speaker 6: I guess is the question, and which I mean this

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is sports radio overreacting as part of the job description. However,

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I think there's a lot of fans who are also saying, oh, man,

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is the sky falling?

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Speaker 5: Are we there yet?

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Speaker 6: And look, fortunately, I've seen a lot of national media

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say this win was more or this loss was more

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about how good Texas Tech was and not about how

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bad BYU is, which I think is very valid, and

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I think it's something we remember.

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Speaker 7: And here's one thing that I think fans are mistaken

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of and I think I was too, is you were

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expecting B WHATU with that week, that bye week to

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procure a lot of crazy stuff to put forth, a

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lot of development, a lot of schematic work that wow,

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B Way he.

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Speaker 1: Was on top of this.

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Speaker 7: But I think the reason you didn't see that is

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because be What You's been on point this entire year.

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They're already operating at a high level. They're already game

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planning for guys, and I don't think there's as much

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for this Bway You team and this coaching staff to

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get better at with two weeks to prepare as opposed

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to other colleges, because I think that's just a reflection

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of just how good B Way You has been week

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in and week out in preparation. Does that make sense, Yeah,

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So I think we overrated the aspect that B Way

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You would be that much better were given two weeks

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of preparation. I just think the coaching staff has been

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that good, buying large and preparing week in and week out,

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whereas two weeks preparation, you're not going to get that

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big incline that maybe you saw Iowa State had when

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bway you played him, which was clear.

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Speaker 1: It was clear Iowa State was able to post something.

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But Texas Tech is just very very good.

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Speaker 7: The way they closed on Bear in the open field

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was man that was outsticks.

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Speaker 1: Playing the game.

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Speaker 7: When Bear went to go leap, and he's just running

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right into into the Texas Tech players, aren't. I mean

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that that's the game right there where they're just a

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step ahead.

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Speaker 1: No, this is a different level, this is a different tier.

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Speaker 7: You're not doing this well like you're not doing us

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like you did Arizona or even Utah. We're Texas Tech

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and that defense is every bit as good as advertised.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you just tip your hat. Okay, settle in.

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Speaker 7: We'll play some easier teams, maybe meet up with you,

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maybe things will be different.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, that b way he was just beat. Yeah,

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I think absolutely beat.

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Speaker 6: The problem for me in that game was it just

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By's offense didn't match up well with Texas Tech's defense.

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Because if we talked a lot about how the one

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team who's been able to pull one over on Texas

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Tech this season was Arizona State, and you may not

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believe we may not believe Arizona State is one of

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the best three teams in the Big Twelve, But what

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they do really well is Sam Levitt and Jordan Tyson.

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When things break down, they can play off script really well.

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Speaker 5: And just do things you can't game plan for.

475
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Speaker 6: And the problem with BYU was they're very good when

476
00:21:14,279 --> 00:21:16,400
they're on script, when they're running the ball, when they

477
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,880
can run play action off of the run, and they

478
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,920
can get you in weird spots. The problem was BYU

479
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,279
couldn't get the ball out fast enough because Texas TeX's

480
00:21:24,279 --> 00:21:27,319
pass rush was that good. And then there's not really

481
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,000
the type of guy who's gonna make three guys missing

482
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,519
in the backfield and then launch it fifty yards downfield.

483
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Speaker 5: That's just not who he is.

484
00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 6: What he's gonna do is make three guys miss and

485
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,279
then try to get three or four extra yards. The

486
00:21:38,319 --> 00:21:41,160
problem was Texas X linebackers were keyten on that and

487
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,920
they were daring Bear to push the ball downfield, which

488
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,359
he didn't. Arizona State is a completely different football team,

489
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,759
and Sam Levit is a completely different quarterback. He reminds

490
00:21:49,799 --> 00:21:51,799
me a lot of Zach Wilson and the way he's

491
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able to play off script. I just think and you

492
00:21:54,839 --> 00:21:57,200
saw it in the third quarter when you was able

493
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,960
to just drop back pass and get passes out fast,

494
00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:01,680
they were able to find success.

495
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Speaker 5: But that's not who they are as an offense.

496
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Speaker 6: And you can't change your entire offense a quarter into

497
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,680
the game and try to come up with a new

498
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,640
game plan. And so for those reasons by you just

499
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,240
really wasn't set up for success against I think at

500
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,160
Texas Tech defense that might very well be the best

501
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,920
defense in college football, certainly up there with Ohio State

502
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:22,480
in Indiana.

503
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Speaker 7: Yes, and I'm gonna make a declaration right here. I'm

504
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,279
gonna give a hot take, and I.

505
00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: Don't think it's that hot.

506
00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 7: I think Bear Bachmeier is going to have a phenomenal

507
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,720
game against TCU this week.

508
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,519
Speaker 1: That kid, he is what you thought he was.

509
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 7: He encountered a major speed bump against Texas Tech. He

510
00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:44,640
was posed with the defensive pressure, and he didn't have

511
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,799
that running game you could rely on. He will learn

512
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,799
from what happened against Texas Tech. Ye, he might see

513
00:22:50,839 --> 00:22:53,680
the most progress from this from last week to this

514
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,759
week than we've seen all year. I really really believe

515
00:22:56,759 --> 00:23:01,000
that this kid is still special. He's still that he

516
00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:03,799
had a speed bump, he had a learning experience, he

517
00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:07,640
did some dumb things against Texas Tech. What I believe

518
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,519
about bear Bachmeer is that he's phenomenal. I still believe

519
00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:14,160
that he's still that guy, and because of that, he's

520
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,039
going to be locked in. He's going to understand the

521
00:23:17,079 --> 00:23:19,680
game plan, how to get over, how to improve, and

522
00:23:19,759 --> 00:23:22,119
I think he's gonna have a phenomenal game against TCU.

523
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,440
I think he's gonna remind fans, Yeah, I'm still that guy.

524
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,960
I'm still that phenom going to that Texas Tech game man.

525
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,400
Everything was about a bear Bachmeer. ESPN was doing the

526
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,480
shorts about him, everything ball.

527
00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 6: That was so awesome when they asked him, hey, when

528
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,440
you're there and you're when you're there in the fourth

529
00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:40,920
quarter and you have to like say some phrases yourself

530
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,759
to get yourself hyped up, Like what do you say?

531
00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:46,319
And he goes, h, yeah, I just I just say

532
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,920
I'm that mother, And I was like.

533
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,599
Speaker 3: What a doll?

534
00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: I like that. That was odd, And he is that guy.

535
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 5: He is that guy.

536
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: He's that guy.

537
00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 7: He will learn. He's going to be fantastic against TCU.

538
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,559
On bear Botmyer he's going to perform, He's going to

539
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,839
understand it, and it's going to be tough because I

540
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:08,279
think Texas Tech kind of gave the pretext, the the

541
00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:11,000
template of how you defend Bear Botmyer, but I do

542
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:14,519
not believe TCU has the horses to perhaps do it

543
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,839
nearly as effectively as Texas Tech, and Ben krit Will

544
00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:19,599
pointed this out in my conversation with him earlier today.

545
00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:22,480
Bear is going to be a guy that benefits from

546
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,720
natural grass as opposed to turf throughout his career. Interesting

547
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,279
just because of what he is is not lateral. Movement

548
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,559
is linear. It's guys slipping. It's getting that leverage, which

549
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,680
Bear Botmyer can absolutely do better on.

550
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: A grass service as opposed to turf.

551
00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:42,519
Speaker 7: He's going to be better. I don't think TCU can defend.

552
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,839
TC's got a pretty good defense. They're all right that

553
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,400
they're good at defending, but they're not close to Texas Tech.

554
00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: Not close.

555
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 7: So whatever anyway, that that's my hot take, that's my

556
00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:57,279
big declaration. Bear boch Meyer is going to have a

557
00:24:57,319 --> 00:24:58,880
phenomenal game come Saturday night.

558
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 6: One last thing on this Bear Bachmeyer thing. If you

559
00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:07,079
are one of those fans, who's freaking out and saying, man,

560
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,880
why didn't Bear win us the game at Texas Tech?

561
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,599
Speaker 5: Why didn't he do more? I want you to just

562
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,720
do this research for yourself. I'm not gonna give it

563
00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:14,839
to you.

564
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 6: I'll give you one example, but I want you to

565
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,480
go through Texas Tech's games this season and find me

566
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:23,799
quarterbacks who played that much better than Bear Bachmeyer outside

567
00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:27,519
of Sam Levitt, who played incredible. But I think even

568
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:29,880
if we're sitting here saying, oh, well, he's a true freshman, see,

569
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,079
you gotta give him that, I don't know that there's

570
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,839
that many quarterbacks in the Big twelve who are gonna

571
00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:37,960
do that much better than bear Bachmeyer did. We went

572
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,440
through yesterday, Devin Dapier didn't play better than than Bear

573
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,480
Bachmeyer against sexty second, and Devin was at home. Avery

574
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:47,640
Johnson one hundred and ninety nine yards, six or thirteen

575
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,720
or sixteen of thirty three, a touchdown and two picks.

576
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,720
Bear was twenty three to thirty eight, one hundred and

577
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,039
eighty eight yards, one touchdown, one interception. So Bear played

578
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,079
as well as Avery Johnson did at home. He played

579
00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:01,599
as well as Devin dan Beer did at home. And

580
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,079
he did that on the road. So I don't think

581
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,039
this is an issue. I bear just wasn't ready.

582
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,799
Speaker 5: I think this truly was a matter of Texas Tech.

583
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,079
Speaker 6: Is that good because there's not many other quarterbacks who

584
00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:16,119
can do that much better against Texas Tech, true freshman

585
00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:16,519
or not.

586
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 7: Here's and I hate to go negative again, but but

587
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,160
I'm gonna go negative here is. I think that what

588
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,240
hurts a lot of people is we've been arguing ad

589
00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:29,079
nauseum that there's a lot of national pundits that aren't

590
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,119
taking Bway You seriously. They did not take Bway You

591
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,440
seriously leading up to the game. The people in Vegas

592
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,519
are not taking Bway You seriously. We've been arguing, no,

593
00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:40,559
you have to take this team seriously. Guess what they

594
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:44,519
were right? We were wrong at least for that one game.

595
00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:46,960
And that's what gnaws on you. If you're a b

596
00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:51,319
Way You fan. Texas Tech is a real contender. That

597
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,680
team can do things in that college football playoff. I

598
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,119
don't know what B Way You can. I don't think

599
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,079
it's an impossibility. I think B Way you have some

600
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,960
wounds to lick and a lot of progress to make.

601
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,079
Whether it be Way You can do it, I don't know,

602
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:06,039
but Texas Tech is that team. They are very good.

603
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,240
They're a team that could make the semifinals or even

604
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:11,559
win at all. I believe Texas Tech's.

605
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:11,839
Speaker 1: Is that good.

606
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 7: I I have some question more about that quarterback.

607
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,519
Speaker 5: That's what I was. That was my pushback. That was

608
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:16,960
the only thing I was.

609
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,079
Speaker 7: If they had a healthy Baron Morton, a healthy or

610
00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:25,559
even a healthy Will Hammond, absolutely that could bite them

611
00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:28,440
in the end. But absent that they have everything. They

612
00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:31,440
have every single thing, and I don't think that that's

613
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:33,960
that's something that's like, now, Texas Tech really wasn't that good.

614
00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:36,599
Speaker 1: No, they're good. They're very, very very.

615
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,279
Speaker 6: I think this year's Texas Tech team would have run

616
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,720
through both Arizona State and IOSA last year.

617
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: I do too.

618
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess I can't fully say that because

619
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,160
they lost to Arizona State this year, but I just think,

620
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:49,720
like Big twelve title wise, they would have ran through

621
00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:52,519
the Big Twelve easily last year, and they probably beat

622
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:53,039
Texas in that.

623
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: Game that Arizona State almost won.

624
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Speaker 7: Anyway, b where he still controls its own destiny true

625
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,680
went out, you got it. I think TCU. I think

626
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,720
the way is gonna get the TCU game. I think

627
00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:04,000
the Cincinnati game is the one you worry about. Yeah,

628
00:28:04,039 --> 00:28:06,599
you're gonna be back on the on the artificial surface

629
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,759
on the road. They have a very good quarterback. That's

630
00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:12,880
the game you worry about. You should No, I can

631
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,960
overlook TCU. I'm not playing right boy, he's not doing that.

632
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,400
But but I'm pretty confident going into this weekend. I

633
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,279
think b Way is gonna figure some things out. I

634
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,359
think they got in the mouth. I think the culture

635
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,480
is very good on this team. Uh, they're gonna rebound.

636
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,519
They're they're gonna get it together, they're gonna fix problems,

637
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:30,960
and they're gonna put forth a good game against TCU.

638
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,039
Agreed anyway that that's That's kind of where I'm at.

639
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 4: And if they you know, Deja vull so creep its

640
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,880
way into the building. We got a lot of sound

641
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that we gotta get so we didn't even get to

642
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,519
the nitty gritty.

643
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Speaker 5: Sorry, guys, you're fine.

644
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Speaker 4: You wanted to go to go on the g Man

645
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Now I got fired up on a rant I should have.

646
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Speaker 5: Can I can I bring up one statistic?

647
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Speaker 6: This is the first time that g Man has been

648
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on the program as long as I've been here that

649
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,960
the word girth has not been used before the nitty gritty.

650
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Speaker 3: So wow, oh there we go.

651
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Speaker 1: This is ah.

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Speaker 4: We were supposed to get to kal one Sataki sound

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and Anddiya Griddy will have to push it back, probably

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to the second hour.

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Speaker 3: In the three oh five Carson Ryan sound coming up

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Speaker 4: In the three thirty uh my interview with head coach

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of the Bou women soccer team, they got a big

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Speaker 3: It's coming.

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Speaker 5: Wait on it.

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at three forty five four or five. Jura Bledsoe, former

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be in the four to thirty segment. Sialia Sarah sound

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him from yesterday's media availability Austin, LEUSA, sound in four

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to forty five and then of course JT for three

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will join us in the five oh five segment talkings

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some basketball, discussing the game tonight against Delaware Yukon's on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Is still a lot more get his thoughts on that,

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don't go in there, but we still have a lot

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709
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,799
that picked the man today. G man, what do you

710
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:33,119
got for us? Why'd you pick the song?

711
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: He's dartist.

712
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:36,799
Speaker 7: This is Love Vigilantes by New Order. It's a war song.

713
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:39,839
It's about I coming home from the war in Japan.

714
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,839
It's a fantastic song. New Order is a fantastic band.

715
00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:47,279
I saw him live in concert earlier this year. To

716
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,319
me that there's three Kings of eighties alternative music, and

717
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:54,720
that would be the cure depeche Mode and New Order.

718
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: Do you like to cure?

719
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 7: Can shout out to depeche Mode. So anyway, that's New Order.

720
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:01,480
It's a fantastic song. Celebrate Veterans Day.

721
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 4: There you go, absolutely love vigil Anties, New Order. The

722
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,920
reason why Veterans Day just want to before we get

723
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,480
into our band of the damn question, they want to

724
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,920
give a shout out to my father who's moved on

725
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,599
to the next life.

726
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: Ronald A.

727
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:16,599
Speaker 4: Lee Weaver Junior named after him. Love your dad, Thank

728
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,279
you for your service. Mom also served in the military

729
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:21,039
as well. Mom was in an Army dell with the Navy.

730
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:23,559
My dad fought in the Afghanistan Warren was in Qatar.

731
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:26,200
A lot of people don't know that. If you don't

732
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,119
know my story, then that's fine. One day maybe I'll

733
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,519
tell you. But my dad, I remember got to come home.

734
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:34,079
I was in school and they pulled us out of

735
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,039
class and he was literally got on the plane in

736
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:40,359
his uniform, flew back, came got stationed, and went right back.

737
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,440
I think it was like a month later. So I

738
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,640
remember him going in out a lot. I remember when

739
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,400
he got done with basic training me and my little sisters.

740
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,079
I'll never forget what we were wearing. We all wearing

741
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,480
matching shirts. They had like the little plaid dresses that

742
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:54,880
match with it. I had the plaid shirt on. So

743
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:58,119
shout out to you, Dad, and for fighting in for

744
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,240
the rights of this country for me and my f

745
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,119
and the rest of our fellow Americans. Ninety percent of

746
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,279
the time, he will wear his veterans hat. So every

747
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,079
time I see someone wear a veterans hat, it just

748
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:09,440
gets me emotional to think about all that they had

749
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,240
to endure and what they.

750
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: Had to go through.

751
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 4: Because when I think about my dad, so just wanted

752
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,000
to give him a shout out. And the rest of

753
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,880
the veterans that have served our country and the people

754
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,440
serving right now, thank you guys for the selfless act

755
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,720
that you're doing. Because this country wouldn't be what it

756
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:24,799
was if it wasn't for you putting your lives at

757
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:27,079
risk every single day. So shout out to our military folks.

758
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,960
Just wanted to give them some love there as well

759
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,440
today because it is Veterans Day.

760
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:31,799
Speaker 1: All right.

761
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 4: Here's my question of today, guys. Tonight the CFP will

762
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,400
meet again. Where do you think BYU will land in

763
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,559
tonight's college football playoff rankings, still inside the top ten,

764
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,319
drop to eleven or twelve, or even fall further. We're

765
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:47,559
gonna put that out on Cridal Benjamin on the socials

766
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:47,839
for you.

767
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 5: But why or why not? Brett, I'll start with you,

768
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:53,400
and then g Man I'll turn it over to you. Ah.

769
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 6: This is such a tough one because you're weighing what

770
00:33:56,759 --> 00:34:00,480
we know about the committee so far based on and

771
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:05,079
then as well, like do they value Texas Tech? We

772
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,440
know they're gonna value that win over Utah. I don't

773
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:14,480
think BYU should drop honestly lower than ten, maybe eleven,

774
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:18,199
But my guess is they'll be sitting no lower than

775
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,679
twelve because what the Committee told us when they put

776
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,239
Notre Dame where they put them was we don't care

777
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,199
about your losses as long as they're good losses. Because

778
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,920
both of Notre Dame's losses were too at the time

779
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,960
a top ten team in Miami and a current top

780
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,960
ten team in Texas A and M and Notre Dame,

781
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:43,280
even with two losses, is still riding strong. I think

782
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,400
the Committee will look at this the same way a

783
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,400
lot of other national media people are saying, you know what.

784
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,480
This is less about BYU being bad and more about

785
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:52,440
Texas Tech.

786
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 5: Being very good to great, maybe even elite.

787
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 6: I think Texas Tech is a top five team in

788
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,079
college football, but they're not gonna move out any of

789
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:03,800
those guys in the top seven, so unfortunately, text Tech's

790
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,239
gonna still be sitting there. However, BYU has a win

791
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,639
over a team inside the Committee's top fifteen and a

792
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,800
loss against one of the committee's top ten teams. That

793
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,320
being said, I don't think the Committee will hold it

794
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,639
against BYU that much.

795
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 5: Especially.

796
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 6: I think the other thing that helps is that BOU

797
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,440
controls their own destiny. If you don't control your own destiny,

798
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,519
then I think that really takes a lot of weight

799
00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:30,280
off of your shoulders, and it really takes away a

800
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,079
lot of merit from your team. Because BOYU has the

801
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:36,760
ability to controls what happens to them as far as

802
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:38,960
they could still win the conference title, and they could

803
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,400
still guarantee them spot in the CFP. I think all

804
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,280
of those things mean the Committee still has high respect

805
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:48,280
for this BOYU team. It's only one loss, even though

806
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,119
when you lose does matter. I think BYU should be ten,

807
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:54,039
but should be no lower than twelve.

808
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 7: I think ten's the ceiling, in twelve's the floor. Agreed

809
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,800
that it's gonna be one of those things. It's gonna

810
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,079
be ten, eleven, twelve. That's why I think it's gonna

811
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:05,400
be eleven. I'm gonna split the difference eleven. But the

812
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,199
great thing is, I don't think it's as impactful as

813
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,880
a lot of fans would think in prior years, just because,

814
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,199
as Brett said, b Way You has a path to

815
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,079
validate itself.

816
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: B Way you can prove that it should be there

817
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:19,400
and just quite.

818
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 7: All the doubts and the and the polls will they're

819
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,840
not being held hostage. B Way, he wins the Big

820
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,679
twelve Championship game, they're in, they lose it, they're out

821
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,800
as a two loss team. They're not getting in as

822
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,920
a two loss team. It's not gonna happen. So yeah,

823
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:38,199
just do it and just win that Big twelve championship.

824
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,079
That's what you have to do. It's very very simple

825
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:44,639
with b WAU football right now. So I honestly don't care.

826
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,159
I do not care what b Way You's ranked when

827
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:50,199
these polls come out tonight because the pathway is very

828
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,760
very clear, and it's irrespective of any ranking b Way

829
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:59,559
you has currently because the pathways there anyway, I'm getting

830
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:01,719
repetitive here, but that those are.

831
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 4: My thoughts still, Okay, No, I totally understand. I'm with

832
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,119
both of you guys. It's gonna be between ten to twelve. Now,

833
00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:10,360
if Utah would have played, they want to buy this week.

834
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,320
Just want to remind people. I know that Bay you

835
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,039
beat them, and what the committee says, oh, they can't

836
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:16,639
go above. But if Utah would have played and would

837
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:18,920
have blown out Baylor and looked the way they did

838
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,199
against Cincinnati.

839
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: Then b what you would definitely be underneath him.

840
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,519
Speaker 1: But because I don't, I don't think so.

841
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: You still so you're talking.

842
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,039
Speaker 7: I don't think so, because if you're a committee member,

843
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,239
how can you validate Hey, b Way, you still has

844
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,199
one less loss than Utah and b Ware you beat Utah, Erico,

845
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,000
I'm gonna rank Utah ahead.

846
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: Of b what you I I don't see how anyone

847
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,440
can do that.

848
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,639
Speaker 6: But you're speaking about a coach Well committee, that makes sense.

849
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: I had use this.

850
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:46,639
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe I can give it a more credible you

851
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,440
would but that's really believe that.

852
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:51,679
Speaker 1: But to me, that's such an easy thing.

853
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 7: I agree that I I I'm just not as cynical

854
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,840
as you guys, I guess in that regard. I I

855
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,800
just don't think that anybody on that committee or the

856
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,679
majority would do.

857
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: That, and we don't know it's toff.

858
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 4: And the only reasonhy I brought it up is Utah

859
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,719
would have had to play Baylor and blow them out.

860
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,519
If Utah looked the way that they looked against Cincinnati,

861
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:13,920
then that's why I make that argument. If they don't,

862
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,679
if they play in a close ballgame, no, not even close.

863
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,559
If they would have happened, and it doesn't matter because

864
00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:20,920
they both thrown byas Baylor in Utah, but if they

865
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,760
would have played Baylor and blown them out like forty

866
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,760
five to fourteen, and it'd been on the road, I

867
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,440
could see the committee maybe making an argument, but it

868
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,920
doesn't matter. It's not gonna be the way. I think

869
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,239
bou comes in tonight at twelve. I think that's where

870
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,119
I got them. I think they drop them a few spots.

871
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,880
I think we see the committees face a little bit

872
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,920
of Okay, you're gonna drop BYU, you know, down five

873
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,320
spots twelve. You'll keep them in, but if they lose,

874
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,480
they could be out Utah might even drop. But that's

875
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,800
where I see it because I still believe this committee

876
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,880
wants to get as many big ten and SEC teams in.

877
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:52,559
I do believe that right, and I believe I use

878
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:55,639
one loss to Texas Tech. Luckily Texas Tech is Brady.

879
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:57,960
You have elaborated already how good of a team they are.

880
00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:00,880
Is helping actually byuse mix of staying in the top twelve.

881
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,719
But I don't think they'll be lower than twelve. You

882
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,519
can't put them below Utah right now. But look at

883
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:08,320
this is gonna all come down to, you know, honestly,

884
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,239
you know, does the committee validate? Do they actually show? Okay,

885
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,880
we're not gonna value you know, these two loss teams.

886
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,920
Are we gonna respect what we've been saying and so

887
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:19,760
far they have, so we're giving them benefited out. But look,

888
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:22,239
I always know a good saying. You give people an inch,

889
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,920
g Man Brett, what do they do? They take a mile?

890
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:28,920
So we'll find out at six pm Mountain time APM

891
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,360
Eastern is when I think they'll'll discuss and have the

892
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,639
new rankings. But are you worried, Cougarnation, Are you worried

893
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:36,760
that BYU will be in the top ten, or if

894
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:37,960
they'll drop further than twelve.

895
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

896
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 6: The other thing is you have to look at who

897
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,239
they're putting ahead of BYU, and I still don't because

898
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,400
I think if that were to happen, then Texas would

899
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,480
probably be in over BYU, which would make me upset

900
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:54,440
a because Texas or Texas is a seven and two team,

901
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,039
they're a two loss team, and one of their losses

902
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,440
came against the Florida team, who just benched their starting

903
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:03,559
quarterback this last week. So I don't know that Texas's

904
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:05,719
loss at Florida looks good at all. I realized the

905
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,280
other one was against Ohio State, but the loss against

906
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,320
Florida looks horrible. And then I don't think Oklahoma, And

907
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,519
then Oklahoma's loss came was against Texas and then Ole Miss,

908
00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:19,519
which is a good loss, but the Texas loss isn't.

909
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,519
So both of those things, I think bau's resume is

910
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:25,960
better than both those schools, especially considering yu's best win

911
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,320
and their only loss.

912
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:31,119
Speaker 5: But again, you have to look at this.

913
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:34,679
Speaker 6: From the committee's perspective and not just this is what

914
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,519
the analytics say, this is what the metrics say, because

915
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:40,000
again you're working with the committee that I don't know

916
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:42,360
if using flawed is the right word, but they don't

917
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,000
always look at things the same way that we do.

918
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,360
And the other thing that I think is important to

919
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,840
remember here is that it's about when you lose. Losing

920
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,400
in the beginning of the season, as we're probably gonna

921
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,679
see with Texas tonight, is better than losing towards the

922
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,119
end of the season when they're actually making these rankings,

923
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:06,119
because where you're trending and when you lose, that's one

924
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:08,599
of the things that the committee remembers is what taste

925
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:11,559
did you leave in my mouth most recently? And I

926
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:15,480
think with BYU they may say, oh, well BYU lost, Yeah, well,

927
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:18,599
Texas lost twice. The problem is we don't remember those

928
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:21,760
losses as much because they happened longer ago, so we

929
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,480
don't put the same weight on them. Even though Texas

930
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:28,599
and Oklahoma both have a worse loss than BYU's one.

931
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: You always bring this up and it's not football. I mean,

932
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,880
excuse me, it's not basketball. You don't get credit for

933
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:37,760
beating the good team in the end. It like your

934
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,280
loss affects you then and there, like a loss in

935
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,199
football later in this season is more detrimental than a

936
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:46,199
loss in basketball because they don't take everything into totality.

937
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: Like that's just not how it goes.

938
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 4: AKA last year, Like losing two games last year, is

939
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,840
it bad necessarily for BYU. No, but it's when they

940
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,760
lost and knocked them out of the Toidle game. That's

941
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,159
just how it is. Those are the rules. You have

942
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,320
to play within them. But I'm looking at this right now,

943
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,000
BYU seven, Texas Tech eight. I mean, ideally you would

944
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,360
hope they would just switch them, but Oregon one, you know,

945
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,760
Norre Dame ended up winning. Look, I'm a g man.

946
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,679
They might be eleven if they want to put Texas

947
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:10,719
above them. Look, I think they like the SEC, so

948
00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:13,159
I could see Texas sneaking in above them. It's crazy

949
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:15,559
because they're a two lost team. Ideally, what they should

950
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:18,039
be is this. Ideally it should be Texas Tech should

951
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:20,360
replace BYU. If anything, it really should be top five,

952
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,320
but it won't happen. Texas Tech should be seventh, organ

953
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,360
should be eighth, Norre Dame should be nine, and by

954
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,119
You should be ten. You know, if you're gonna do

955
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:29,239
that ideally, if that's what they wanted to do, because

956
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,119
then you wouldn't be speaking out both sides of your mouth.

957
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,559
Texas should they shouldn't they shouldn't be shouldn't be like that.

958
00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:38,280
And that's why, Jim, I think your point is the

959
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,920
best of eleven. That's why I got them at twelve.

960
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:41,880
I could see him being like, you know what, let's

961
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,800
just go ahead and move you down. Actually not only

962
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,760
under Texas, but let's also move you down under Oklahomas. Well,

963
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,559
I really see that being the case, because that's what

964
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:52,280
the committee does.

965
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 5: That there's no way Oklahoma deserves to be higher than

966
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,519
bas I.

967
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 7: Guess what's really hurting Bwau's cause is that everybody saw

968
00:42:59,320 --> 00:42:59,880
that game.

969
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 5: Right, That's what it was the college.

970
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: That's a great point.

971
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody, you got embarrassed offensively on national It was

972
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:09,639
not pretty. Look if they'd have scored that second touchdown

973
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,800
and they'd have lost, you know, if it had been

974
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,039
fourteen twenty search, even if they get the twenty nine,

975
00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:16,679
maybe you can say, Okay, they stayed top tim but

976
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,840
like because there was nothing. I mean, look, you got

977
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,880
you got embarrassed on national television by the Acre.

978
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 6: Imagine how much worse it would be though if they

979
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,519
didn't score that time. Oh man, dude, Like I shouted out,

980
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:28,360
b Yu would be dropping till like twenty.

981
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:29,039
Speaker 3: Straight up they dropped.

982
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 4: No, I agree, I think they fall out of the

983
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,760
top fifteen and Rifley so if they didn't even put

984
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,119
up points or show anything, but look all all things aside,

985
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,360
I think was the one thing that that did.

986
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: And Jurdy you know this, Brett you know this.

987
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,119
Speaker 1: Look.

988
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: NFL scouts look for talent.

989
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,199
Speaker 4: And I think Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glasker booked themselves,

990
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:49,960
as you know NFL draft picks between the third and

991
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,559
the fourth.

992
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,519
Speaker 3: Round in my opinion, with that game.

993
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:54,199
Speaker 4: Now, obviously they have to be healthy, but I think

994
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,920
that booked it because watching that tape and watching Isaiah

995
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,400
and watching jackets, if I'm an NFL scout, is like,

996
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:03,360
these two are the best two players on BYU's defense

997
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,360
and it is not even close.

998
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, go ahead.

999
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,679
Speaker 7: No, I I was just gonna say, I think maybe

1000
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,039
the next NFL prospect behind those two Right now, this

1001
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:17,199
might sound crazy to say, and unless you look at

1002
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,039
the numbers, I think Evan Johnson.

1003
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,159
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, follow, but I don't hate that either.

1004
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 3: Evan Johnson.

1005
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: I think Evin Johnson is an NFL cornerback. I agree,

1006
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,119
with you.

1007
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,039
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, he's he's he's he's locked up, he's

1008
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:30,679
lock up.

1009
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 7: He has he has good size, he's playing really well

1010
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,960
this year, and he's anyway, man, I'm getting on the tangent.

1011
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,960
I getting it on the absolute tangent. Okay, and he's

1012
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,719
gonna kill that forty times. Anyway, I just had that thought,

1013
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,280
look at me. I know Evan Johnson had the one

1014
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,000
pass that was caught.

1015
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 4: They picked on Trey a little bit in that game,

1016
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,719
but no, I think Evan showed his good tip against

1017
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,119
Texas Techon. I mean, Evan really only got beat once

1018
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,079
on that ball. That Baron mor Than just threw it

1019
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:57,480
for a prayer and Evan really should have made him pay.

1020
00:44:58,639 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: Weird.

1021
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: It was weird. Yeah, that was.

1022
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:03,519
Speaker 4: One of the weirdest plays I've seen Evan Johnson in

1023
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:06,119
coverage because normally what Evan does and GM you tweeted

1024
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:08,000
this out and I agree with you on along the

1025
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,599
same lines of he goes up, boxes you out and

1026
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:12,519
he just makes to play on the ball and it

1027
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:13,639
was just like he was waiting.

1028
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:14,639
Speaker 3: It was just so weird.

1029
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 6: Well, and I think the other thing was like, sometimes

1030
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,920
it's better to be the guy who's not in your

1031
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,199
best position because you get the opportunity for momentum and

1032
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,599
to come back to the ball. If you're sitting underneath

1033
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:28,199
of it, you don't have any room, any speed, any movement.

1034
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,519
And that was the case on that play where he

1035
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:33,280
was just sitting underneath waiting for it, and the receiver

1036
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:37,039
because he was behind, was able to push forward, get

1037
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:38,599
momentum and get in front of him.

1038
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you.

1039
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 7: And he has better size than Jacob Robinson. He's got

1040
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,039
what at least two inches on Jacob. I think he's

1041
00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:47,599
faster than Jacob.

1042
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: Jacob's versatility was outstanding.

1043
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 7: Thought, I don't know if Evan's gonna have that, but

1044
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,320
I'm looking at him. I think he's one of the

1045
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:01,000
best cornerbacks already I've ever seen it BYU think he's fantastic,

1046
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:04,039
and the numbers back it up. The greats come out.

1047
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,679
He's he's one of the best in the league. He's

1048
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,119
very very good. So yeah, b wa, he got an

1049
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:11,599
absolute gem and that kid no.

1050
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at it up, he's got

1051
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,360
three interceptions, four pass the breakups, so passive breakup you know,

1052
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,320
efficiency is a total of seven, right, because that's pbu's

1053
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,280
and I N T s. He had a cred day

1054
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,360
against Iowa State, six total tackles in the game.

1055
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: He also had an interception.

1056
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 4: I mean he had the pick six against East Carolina

1057
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,599
and career two interceptions in that game. Look, Evan's got

1058
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:32,320
the I think the clay and the tape for it.

1059
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,480
So I agree with you, man, that's the that's the

1060
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:37,320
next guy up. And look, I think Trey uh is

1061
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,039
a hard worker. I think if he puts in the work,

1062
00:46:39,079 --> 00:46:42,559
he can find himself. Maybe in that conversation as well,

1063
00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:45,920
I think that's potential. Definitely has potential, right, like not

1064
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,840
saying he's a book right now, but he's got the

1065
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,599
potential to get there.

1066
00:46:48,599 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: So look, I mean, if that's what you got in Evans,

1067
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:51,280
a redshirt.

1068
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 4: Junior and Trey's a true sophomore, you can get both

1069
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,880
those guys back next year and that just helps your defense. Look,

1070
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,320
you're gonna probably lose Isaiah and Jack if we're gonna

1071
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,920
be honest, and Keanu this year. Maybe they all come back.

1072
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,440
But look, I think that Brett brings up a good point.

1073
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,760
I think Folatow is a guy that they're gonna like,

1074
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,960
you know, Tannerwall I think could get himself into a

1075
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,480
camp just of how disciplined he is.

1076
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,079
Speaker 3: I don't know if he would.

1077
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 4: Necessarily get drafted, but look, I just Ba, You's got

1078
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,239
guys on this defense, and I think that's the hard

1079
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,320
and soul of this team. Is that until we said

1080
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,960
this g Man yesterday, and I guess I'll get your

1081
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,639
take on it. Look, I think they're at the point

1082
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:26,599
of if by you is saying it that you need

1083
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:29,320
to play complimentary football, it's time to upgrade the offense.

1084
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:31,159
And what I mean is you got the four star

1085
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,679
running back LJ. Martin NFL draft pick. You see the

1086
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:36,440
difference right leading the big twelve and rushing. And Ben

1087
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,199
said that yesterday he thinks that Chase is a good

1088
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:41,519
complimentary piece, and I think get ahead.

1089
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: Not no no.

1090
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:44,199
Speaker 7: I just wanted to point this out because I don't

1091
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:47,360
think anyone's talking about this because of the nature of

1092
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,400
the game. Because be what you got roun Jonathan Kabeya

1093
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,440
was out there almost every single down playing that nickel position.

1094
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:57,119
He was and why and why didn't you know he

1095
00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:01,119
was out there is because they were not throwing against him.

1096
00:48:01,159 --> 00:48:04,760
That's a big thing for this defense. Getting Jonathan Kabea back.

1097
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,360
He's back now playing that nickel position. That's going to

1098
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,320
be a big boon to this defense. We raved about

1099
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,159
this guy prior to this season. He's been hurt and

1100
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:16,400
I think this is this is a big thing moving

1101
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,960
forward that no one's focused on. I think the addition

1102
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,559
of Jonathan Cabea, who we all like a lot, is

1103
00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:24,119
going to be a big thing for this defense moving forward.

1104
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 4: I think you bring up a very good point, and look,

1105
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,440
I don't think I'm saying anything that not, but I

1106
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:29,840
saw it.

1107
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:32,119
Speaker 3: I think it was on Jarem Jordan's Twitter. He was

1108
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:33,119
the one that put it out there.

1109
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 4: But I think Jay Hill said today, I think this

1110
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,159
morning on the coordinate just scording that sophomore Tommy praz

1111
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:40,280
Is likely will red shirt this season and they hope

1112
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,400
to get him back for the postseason.

1113
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,039
Speaker 3: It doesn't count against the red shirt, So all.

1114
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 4: The bowl games of the games the bou if they

1115
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,280
were to make it to the CFP of the Big

1116
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,639
Toe title, don't count towards the season because those technically

1117
00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:52,119
would be bowl games. It's not towards the season this postseason.

1118
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,599
But that's a big loss. Gi Man and Brett. I

1119
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:57,199
think not having Tommy who's likely to red shirt. Now,

1120
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,239
that's a big loss for the secondary because when he

1121
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,960
was at the nickel position. Nothing against Kaba you can

1122
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:05,519
throw on b Yu. Tommy his LinkedIn size. Quarterbacks don't

1123
00:49:05,519 --> 00:49:07,679
want to turn the football over. So how big of

1124
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,079
a loss is that Tommy Prass is likely to red shirt.

1125
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,119
Speaker 7: Well, you're talking about a guy that they've been playing

1126
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:15,679
without for quite a while now, So it's not one

1127
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,920
of those things like, oh wow, BB he's gonna be

1128
00:49:18,199 --> 00:49:21,199
a tough situation now because they've they've largely atone for that.

1129
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,119
We like Tommy, we like him a lot. Slow position

1130
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,719
is not his position. He's gonna play free safety. He's

1131
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,760
gonna slought in for tanner Wall next season. He's gonna

1132
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,480
be very good. He's gonna be extremely good of that position.

1133
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,360
B Way's secondary could be absolutely phenomenal next year. Tanner

1134
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,440
Wall's gonna be tough. Losing Tanner Wall is gonna be tough.

1135
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,679
He's very very good. But but I think they have

1136
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,679
guys that can step up and do that. You get

1137
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,039
Raider to Mooney back, Falla Tel's back, Everybody's back, Morey

1138
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,159
Bombers I think might be tougher to replace than I

1139
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:52,719
think a lot of fans think.

1140
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: But but I think he can replace that.

1141
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 7: You're still gonna have Trey Alexander, You're gonna have Evan Johnson,

1142
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,440
You're gonna have Jonathan Kabay, Yeah.

1143
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: And some other guys. So so yeah, I.

1144
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 7: Man, I'm bullish on this BWA defense next year. Man,

1145
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,119
We're getting on all sorts of sorts of tangents, aren't we.

1146
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:11,119
Speaker 1: This is off season talk.

1147
00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:13,559
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I mean you are, and I mean, look,

1148
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,039
what my point was, to bring it back full circle,

1149
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:18,119
was about the Texas Tech game and if by you

1150
00:50:18,159 --> 00:50:20,599
wouldn't have scored. The point was that Jack Kelly and

1151
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:22,840
Isaiah Glasker put out a good films, So not always

1152
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:24,880
if one side to the ball does bad, does it

1153
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,920
hurts the entire team. What was showcased on Saturday, g

1154
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:31,119
Man and Brett was Bo's defenses. It can compete, and

1155
00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:33,280
I think it's up there. It's the second best defense

1156
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,880
in the Big Twelve behind text Tech. And I don't

1157
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,960
think anybody's doubted that. That was the point of the

1158
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,840
tangent of the ramp. But guys, but that's our that's

1159
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,360
our question. In Polar today. Tell us where you agree,

1160
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,679
where you disagree, chimeing, I want to hear your thoughts again,

1161
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,639
just to remind people where do you think BYU will

1162
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,440
land in tonight's college football playoff rankings? Still inside the

1163
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,360
top ten, drop to eleven, to twelve, or even fall further.

1164
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:56,880
Why or why not? We will find out definitely later

1165
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,280
to my just a reminder to give some context and

1166
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,679
maybe why I know I said twelve g men's at eleven.

1167
00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:04,360
Brett said, if not ten, between eleven and twelve BYU

1168
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,800
and the AP pole and the AFCA Coaches poll, they're

1169
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,039
ranked both at twelve. So is that telling? How much

1170
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:14,079
of that will the committee take into a factor? B

1171
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:16,440
What you dropped in was it was efficiency, bread or

1172
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,760
win margin or strength to resume? It was from seven

1173
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,760
to tenth. So still in that top ten. So I

1174
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,400
think BAU would be somewhere top twelve. If they dropped

1175
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,960
out of the top twelve, I think we all would

1176
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,000
be shocked, no doubt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 6: There's there's no way they should drop out of the

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top twelve. And frankly, when you look at who would

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be jumping them, there's just if there's no world in

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which I think Oklahoma and Texas deserve to be over BYU.

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But you know what, you still have the opportunity to

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win meaningful games, to beat TCU, to beat Cincinnati, and

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control your own destiny. The question then you have to

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get into is because I'm basly, if you win the

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conference title, you're in. But the question we now have

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to start asking of the committee is does the committee

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believe that BYU is good enough? If they win out

1189
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and they lose in the Big twelve title? Does the

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committee still believe BYU is good enough to make the

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playoffs that way? Now, I said yesterday the ESPN Playoff

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predictor gives BYU an eighty seven percent chance of making

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the playoff if they were to win out and still

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lose to Texas Tech. But that's not a guarantee. And

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I think if BYU is, if BYU is at ten

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or eleven, that tells me the committee still thinks BYU

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is good enough even with.

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Speaker 5: A loss to Texas Tech.

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Speaker 6: If they're anywhere or twelve or after, then you start

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wondering how good does the committee believe this BYU team

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is and.

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Speaker 5: What work do they have to do?

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Speaker 6: And you know what, maybe if you blow out at

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TCU or Cincinnati, maybe you're able to alleviate that, but

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but who knows. It's gonna be really interesting to see

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what the Committee decides to do with BYU tonight. Honestly,

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like from a national stage, I think BYU is the

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biggest question in the entirety of the CFP rankings.

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Speaker 5: We know what everybody else is.

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Speaker 6: What the committee decides to do with PAU, I think

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is the biggest question for the committee tonight.

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Speaker 3: You bring up a good point. I'll finish on this.

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Speaker 4: Look, you still gotta account for the G six team

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that will get in and others.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just gonna say this.

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Speaker 4: If you're a top probably five or six team seven

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and you're in the SEC at Big twelve or Big ten,

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00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:38,000
you're probably safe. But once you get down to that ten, eleven, twelve, look, BA,

1219
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:39,920
you should be coming in at that last team because

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if you're looking at the SEC right now, Georgia, Ole,

1221
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,000
miss Texas, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Missouri all in the top

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00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,400
twenty five on the outskirts Texas eleven, Oklahoma twelve, they

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00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,360
should not be ranked above BA. If you don't make

1224
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,800
it to the title game, you should be punished for that.

1225
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,920
You should be punished as well for that and lose

1226
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,039
your and dropping your rankings. Because if a team or

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to have an opportunity to go to the cost Fotball Playoff, losing,

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00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,679
the committee say we don't hold that against you, they

1229
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,360
should be in over some of it didn't because you

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didn't play well enough to be in your conference matchup

1231
00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:10,519
from a logical standpoint in my opion, so right now

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that would be the Aggies in Alabama both who should

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get in. And then like I said, Georgian Ole Miss

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00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,760
will be safe. But this is more for Vanderbilt, Texas

1235
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and Oklahoma they should not get in in my opinion.

1236
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In that regard, it should be BYU just based on

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that now would feel that way, not just for BYU,

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about any Big twelve team. I felt that last year

1239
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with Arizona State, and I will say, look, I think

1240
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this is the year the Big Twelve should get two

1241
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teams in between Texas Tech and BYU, no doubt, but

1242
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:38,719
gotta have one or two losses, and that second loss

1243
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,000
has to come in the title game. It cannot come

1244
00:54:41,159 --> 00:54:43,039
before in the season because you will not get a

1245
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:45,280
three loss Big ten excuse me Big twelve team in.

1246
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:47,159
There's just no way the committee will put a three

1247
00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:50,840
loss Big twelve team in over multiple SEC or Big

1248
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,360
ten two loss teams that don't see it. It will

1249
00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:55,440
not happen. Guys, we need to go to break. We've

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gone too long. But that was your band of today.

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