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<v Speaker 1>Leeds Saints and Hu k Are lost. One act of

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<v Speaker 1>foul play could come at a cost Mikey Lewis Simbon

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<v Speaker 1>for tripping someone up with the Broncos in town for

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<v Speaker 1>the World Club Cup. Warrington's win put a smile on

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<v Speaker 1>Sam's face, but it's currently the Dragons who sit in

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<v Speaker 1>first place. Halifax Panthers have gone to the wall. Will

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<v Speaker 1>there be more clubs who will soon take a fall?

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<v Speaker 1>The first round of Super League has been and gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Here all about it now with Big Lee and John

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the ninth episode of Super League three sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast primarily about the top tier of British rugby league.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you Johnny?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that was I have to say, great, great poetry there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting better each week. I'm going to do about

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<v Speaker 1>every week. Now you're sent about heart. People will think

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<v Speaker 1>I've married to a man or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I'm very anything wrong with that. You can

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<v Speaker 2>marry anyone you're like, then, no offense. You know I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a man.

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<v Speaker 1>This weekend, John, We've probably just had a a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>canceled now for that for what I've just said. But

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<v Speaker 1>all the events looked good, didn't they? At Super League.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great weekend I think for British rugby league.

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<v Speaker 1>Not many people are as critical of British ruble league

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<v Speaker 1>in general as you are I and we get criticized

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<v Speaker 1>a lot for that. But at the same time I

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<v Speaker 1>was so happy for the game. What's all this weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think a few people have said

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<v Speaker 2>best opening round of super legue either. I'm not seen

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<v Speaker 2>all thirty one rounds even though I am not old,

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<v Speaker 2>but look, it was a fantastic round as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>just great to see everything from Thursday nights open to

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<v Speaker 2>the games on Friday, the games on Saturday, and even

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<v Speaker 2>the cast came just gone past. You know, cass were

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<v Speaker 2>very good, big you know, sellout upsets, some great trials,

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of controversy, bit of drama and everything. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean more more of the same place it was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was probably the best opening super League

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<v Speaker 2>good hope for so it's fantastic to see for me.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it was all the events look good. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean when I think back of opening rounds of super League,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the very first one when Paris played Sheffield managed

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<v Speaker 1>to get the win. All the events looked good. It

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<v Speaker 1>was great crowds and that's all we ask for, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't care that stadia are small at times. That's

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<v Speaker 1>rugby league. People don't care about that. We just want

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<v Speaker 1>to see what we've got maximized. We had a record

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<v Speaker 1>crowd in Warrington that's more than half a century. They've

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<v Speaker 1>broken a record that's over half a century, best non

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<v Speaker 1>Derby crowd for a decade. In Hall it was house

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<v Speaker 1>full sign everywhere. In terms of the football played, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously over time I will be doing more and more

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<v Speaker 1>analysis videos and of course we've spoken regularly about the

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<v Speaker 1>caliber of signings, et cetera. But in terms of sporting

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<v Speaker 1>theater it was it was definitely excellent. I mean all

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<v Speaker 1>games were something in the region of twenty points to

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen or sixteen or something like that. So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>my question to you, John is how has this happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just a freak that it's all happened this

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<v Speaker 1>weekend or have you seen things on the ground that

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<v Speaker 1>have made this happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a good question. I think. Obviously, you

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<v Speaker 2>know there is the rap changes which has spent things

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<v Speaker 2>up a bit. There was a lot of penalties, I

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<v Speaker 2>know a lot of people complaining about the refereeing, and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously there are variations between you know, what is considered

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<v Speaker 2>penalty and six again what isn't. But I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was just great contest. Look, first game around the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's prepared months for this, like everyone every team, every

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<v Speaker 2>player is going to be out for it. Most teams

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<v Speaker 2>will have, you know, at least seventeen fit players, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're not carrying injuries like their will throughout the season.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think what happened with York and whole KR,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure Brudford and Louise were already pumped

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<v Speaker 2>up and really good for their for their games, but

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<v Speaker 2>he probably just gave a bit more confidence to them

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<v Speaker 2>as well, just you know the fact that hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we might have been a championship team, but we can

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<v Speaker 2>we can match it with with the example of York,

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<v Speaker 2>the best team in the competition last year. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it just did had a bit of everything. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>There was there was a bit of drama off the field.

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<v Speaker 2>There was you know, John Wilkin speaking out very bold

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<v Speaker 2>about Saint Helen's. You know, we had some fantastic tries

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<v Speaker 2>like the weather, and then this is a factor obviously

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<v Speaker 2>for anyone missing Australia. Weather in England it's rain every

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<v Speaker 2>day this year, so what are we for about six

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<v Speaker 2>weeks and it is also bloody cold, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>in Catalans in the south of France there was something

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<v Speaker 2>like one hundred and eighty degree wins or something before

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<v Speaker 2>it was a midfield but some of the skill on

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<v Speaker 2>show that the underarm off fload to set up on these,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the physicality of that was was brilliant and

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<v Speaker 2>you know Kaye Taylor Ray stepping around like it had

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of everything. So it's exactly what you would want.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people say this a lot as well, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so often things off the field that let

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<v Speaker 2>the sport down, but the players in regular league very

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<v Speaker 2>rarely do, yeah, let the sport down. So they did.

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<v Speaker 2>The players did their part, and I think the fans

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<v Speaker 2>also deserve credit because they did their part as well.

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<v Speaker 2>They turned up even in pretty ship weather. They turned

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<v Speaker 2>up in the Ansiel. I was at the York game.

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<v Speaker 2>The atmosphere there was fastic. The Warrington game on the TV,

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<v Speaker 2>that atmosphere looked a bit, looked great, at Lee great

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<v Speaker 2>a whole you know, just everything just came together. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>whether there's a bit of luck in that, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But has there been any different marketing from the game?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you live in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there's a new ad campaign, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think there's been There's not been an increase in ad

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<v Speaker 2>budget or anything like that. And if anything, I think

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of national newspaper coverage and maybe mainstream coverage

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<v Speaker 2>has probably been less. But look, I think all the clubs,

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<v Speaker 2>really like Warrington, have put a lot of money into

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<v Speaker 2>their stadium and you know, setting up that first game,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, Lee and Wakefield did a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of you know, the fan experience of their game.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think everyone's working hard to maximize what they've got.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it just all came together, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been it's been fantastic. There's so much, so many

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<v Speaker 2>talking points from all of those games. I'm sure we

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<v Speaker 2>won't better cover them all in this pod.

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<v Speaker 1>Some some so called journalists that you've expressed the reservations

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<v Speaker 1>about in the past I won't name, decided to say

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<v Speaker 1>that it was vindication for the fourteen teams being brought

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<v Speaker 1>into super He called that one a bit early.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people have suggested just on that, just on that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think colleagues team that's said the same. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it's round one, so you wouldn't know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to go to early.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been shot results in the opening round of Super

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<v Speaker 1>leau quite regularly. I mean last year we had a

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<v Speaker 1>one nil victory. Yeah let me let me yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and that was fantastic from me, And I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say that. I mean, that was an upset of sorts.

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<v Speaker 2>But Lee, you know, been a top team for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years now, so it wasn't the biggest episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the result that the score line was the upset. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course.

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<v Speaker 2>But look, you know, I don't want the expansion of

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen teams to fail. That's I want to see the

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<v Speaker 2>game thrive and grow and get bigger and more popular.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's why I, you know, do what I do

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<v Speaker 2>and push for change and you know, you know, critique

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<v Speaker 2>things because I'm passionate about the sport. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>see it do well. It'd be great with the fourding

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<v Speaker 2>teams can do. But I think people either criticizing or

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<v Speaker 2>having questions about it they are valid because you know

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's numerous voices when they're valid. But yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's judge accurately at the end of the season after

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven rounds to see how it is. But look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a fantastic start and that, you know that should

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<v Speaker 2>be celebrated. Let's introduce ourselves. My name is Lee Addison.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obviously British sounding person who's lived in Australia for

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<v Speaker 1>two decades. I've been a rugby league coach in this

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<v Speaker 1>country at pretty high levels for a long time. John,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a journal in the UK and instead of us

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<v Speaker 1>going you know through the whole rigmarole that can just

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<v Speaker 1>listen to some old podcasts or read the description. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to make this pod intro shorter, John, because

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<v Speaker 1>it was the longest in history. It's still being aired

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ashes Rugby League podcast and the Rugby League

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<v Speaker 1>Coach podcast platforms, as well as the Rugby League Coach

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube too. The idea is we want you all to

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<v Speaker 1>come to Super League three sixty and the Rugby League

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<v Speaker 1>Coach YouTube for that. Let's give our contact details out John,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll go first admin at Rugby League coach dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Dot au is my email Rugby League coach dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Dot tay you is my website at Rugby League Coach

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<v Speaker 1>is my social media handle.

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<v Speaker 2>John. You can get me on x Johnny D. Davison.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get me on a Facebook at John Davidson

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<v Speaker 2>Journalist and on Patreon at Rugby League hub dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Longreads John's tweet of the week, which I am the

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<v Speaker 1>committee for. It is a narrow mind which cannot look

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<v Speaker 1>at a subject from various points of view? Would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to elaborate on that, John, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean it was a funny week, obviously I had a well,

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<v Speaker 2>it was basically a double boat spread on the Bradford

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<v Speaker 2>Bulls and their return of Super League and the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Honzel Stadium on was online on Thursday and in

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<v Speaker 2>the paper on Saturday. That story didn't go down with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of There was some interesting feedback. I think

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<v Speaker 2>journalistic turd was probably my favorite. But the point, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a lot of the people who simply have

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<v Speaker 2>a problem the article hadn't actually read it, because if

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<v Speaker 2>I had, they know I'd interviewed a Bradford fan who

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<v Speaker 2>was very positive and complimentary about oddsall and obviously the

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<v Speaker 2>head coach Kurk Haggerty, who was obviously complimentary about Oddsall.

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<v Speaker 2>I also interviewed Adrian Land, the coach of Lee who

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<v Speaker 2>played at Odsall in Well around two thousand and two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and one, and if you actually look at his quotes,

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<v Speaker 2>he was he was happy, he wants to see Bradford

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<v Speaker 2>do well, He's glad they're back, but he wasn't that

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<v Speaker 2>complimentary about the pitch at Onsall, which is his opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, look, people are allowed to have opinions. Lye

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<v Speaker 2>thing about Bradford's return. Yeah, it shocked a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that they finished tenth and you know a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of legitimate questions there about the RFL buying odds All

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<v Speaker 2>from them for a million pound twelve thirteen years ago

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<v Speaker 2>and then them selling it back to them more recently

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<v Speaker 2>for what was reported I think around two undred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty grand. So they are all legitimate questions. And my

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<v Speaker 2>point is you can't just ignore things that are happening.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people in rugby league who just

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<v Speaker 2>want to if anything bad or questionable happens, I just

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<v Speaker 2>ignore it and want to focus on the positives. I

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we get on the Bradford fans seem to

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<v Speaker 1>of the week was from at John A one eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred two three eight two, who said, in reference to

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<v Speaker 2>It's not bad, that's pretty funny. Actually to preach the

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<v Speaker 1>week zero. I am a very popular person at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had I've had so much, so many comments on

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>May maybe this same wave as what's helped super League

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<v Speaker 2>a camera and bash, isn't it? That's right?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the moons and the universe are moving in a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way. Questions James Varley our Friends said whether the

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<v Speaker 1>from grassroots community up to a Super E club. Rather,

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<v Speaker 1>Wales at the moment, so John Wales are on the

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<v Speaker 2>a business case, I don't think they would ever invest in,

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<v Speaker 2>few people over here obviously for those who don't find

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<v Speaker 2>rugby union in Wales, Rugby union's being perhaps it much

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<v Speaker 2>and now they're cutting franchises their clubs as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>insane that I don't think just you know, well, the

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<v Speaker 2>RFL doesn't have any money who invested Wales To put

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<v Speaker 2>it mildly, but I don't think you can just engineer

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<v Speaker 2>rugby league in Wales like Obviously it's a small sport there.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some people into it, but we've had the

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<v Speaker 2>Crusaders and Super League before they went bust, what was

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<v Speaker 2>it about thirteen years ago, forteen years ago. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there need to be a whole kind of strategy for Whales,

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<v Speaker 2>which would take a long time. You can't just whack

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<v Speaker 1>In there, so it would need it would need another

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah. I mean there's only one semi professional

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<v Speaker 2>was Southwest before that went bust a couple of years ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't get big crowds. There's not a huge you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Wales as a rugby league playing nation if you remember

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<v Speaker 2>from I guess even the mid nineties when they did

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<v Speaker 2>well in the World Cup. But before that was because

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<v Speaker 2>of all the rugby union players who were coming across.

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<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't happen anymore. So I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>Do they pay extra on top of Super League or

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<v Speaker 1>is it included? And so that one, John, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think right now super League is on Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 1>and KO in Australia simply because News Corp have the

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<v Speaker 1>rights to it in the UK. But I say that

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<v Speaker 1>apparently it's not on TV, it's not on Sky Sports

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<v Speaker 1>in New Zealand, so you probably know more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, News Corp don't have the you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>was that changed a couple of years ago. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know for sure, but my understanding is it's

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of some reciprocal agreement. I don't think they

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<v Speaker 2>get it they pay any money for the rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Who owns News Corp in England?

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's a very good question. Off the top of

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<v Speaker 2>my I don't know, but obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>With the I think it's do Zone over here now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yes, there's designer owned Fox, but it is different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the sort of Rupert Murdoch Lochlan Murdock situation,

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<v Speaker 1>which obviously the Murnoch's, particularly Locklan Murdock I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>sure if he still does. But he owned the Brisbane Broncos,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't he and strong links with Rugular But that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the case anymore. I think it's just a reciproable agreement

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<v Speaker 1>because super League ratings in Australia would be I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly because of the time difference is kind of non existent.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not They're not a raiding content, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there's really any money coming in for them. Trent

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four on ninety four W Trent ninety four w

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. It was a bit late with this message

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<v Speaker 1>because we've already planned and we're about to record this one.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said, would love a full nerd breakdown of

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<v Speaker 1>the super League strategic review documents in the next Super

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<v Speaker 1>League three It's sixty episode and he said, try and

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<v Speaker 1>record it next Thursday. It didn't realize we changed to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast came out. I found section K France, Wells, London, Scotland,

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<v Speaker 1>look like and how could it be achieved? So are

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<v Speaker 1>you well, first of all, we're not nerds? Are we

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<v Speaker 1>John or are we?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'll probably I was probably called that in

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm a Yeah, I think I might be

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<v Speaker 1>a nerd trapped in a rugby league player's body, old

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<v Speaker 1>rugby league players body. That's something we might do, might

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<v Speaker 1>get kap plan back on, maybe Broxton.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it will be good. Look, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>obviously read through when it came through. It's not really

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a plan. It's more of a wish list.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a lot of the to be fair, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the stuff has just recycled the old ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not really a lot of you know, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>Scotland and London. It's like, yeah, I mean that's great,

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<v Speaker 2>but what is the plan and who's paying for it?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, like having Nine's rugby League, which we

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<v Speaker 2>died off. Moving the Challenge Cup from Wembley, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that's been talked about for a long time. Having a

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<v Speaker 2>charity shield game between the Super Grand Floorals and the

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<v Speaker 2>Challenge Cup. I believe that's been done before. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of stuff in there that's just really

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<v Speaker 2>more of a wish list. But how is it going

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<v Speaker 2>to be going to be achieved and who pays for it?

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of the questions that there are no answers for.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Might get the merge together. News wise, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>big one out of the weekend is that mikey Lewis. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I could potentially miss the World Club Challenge Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>for the trip he did late in the York Night's loss.

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<v Speaker 1>When is the disciplinary hearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, usually they released the charges Monday, usually early afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>and then obviously if he is charged and he fights

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<v Speaker 2>the charge, then they'll be here on Tuesday night. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually with the trip it can be a red card.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a yellow on Thursday, and it could be

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<v Speaker 2>a one or a too much band. I will be

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<v Speaker 2>quite surprised, And I'm not saying there's any conspiracy theories,

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<v Speaker 2>but recent history would tell me I'd be quite surprised

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<v Speaker 2>if he gets banned for the World Cup Challenge. I

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<v Speaker 2>seem to remember Harry Smith two years ago Wigan played

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<v Speaker 2>Cass just before they played Penrith. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>Luke Rooney, but anyway, Harry Smith picked up the fallback

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<v Speaker 2>and dumped him someone on his head at least out

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<v Speaker 2>of the horizontal. I think he got simp in for that.

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<v Speaker 2>He received no baan, which it was fairly dangerous, much

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<v Speaker 2>more dangerous than a trip, I would say, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>spear someone on the ground or accidentally experience again, shall

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<v Speaker 2>we say so? Yeah, I'd be pretty surprised if Mikey

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<v Speaker 2>one game he miraculously gets off. I won't be won't

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<v Speaker 2>be that shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Helens. A week is a long time in rugby league.

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<v Speaker 1>A week ago they flogged working to look good, to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest in terms of attack. Now Jack Wellsby has

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<v Speaker 1>picked up an injury that could at least be a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks. Jackson Hastings went to the sideline and mimicked

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<v Speaker 1>as if he was going to climb over and attack

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<v Speaker 1>a fan, and was certainly arguing with a fan or

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<v Speaker 1>fans for for a length of time. Mike Rush, the CEO,

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<v Speaker 1>was also announced he's leaving and his association with the

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<v Speaker 2>Has. Somebody's anounced it then, no, no, well, that story

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<v Speaker 2>has been written. I'll point this outly because I was

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<v Speaker 2>hearing about this last week. I approached Mike Rush for

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<v Speaker 2>a comment. He denied he was leaving his role. I

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<v Speaker 2>also asked the medium manager who's denied that he was leaving.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the rumors have continued. There's rumors that it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be announcement on Monday. This is all kind of

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<v Speaker 2>related to the Mark personval issue and a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a power strugg the club. But we will see how

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<v Speaker 2>it plays out. But yeah, things are all not well

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<v Speaker 2>at Helms. Shall we say there is no smoke without fire? John?

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<v Speaker 1>Since we lasted a podcast Halifax folded Now we're about

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<v Speaker 1>nine days I think since we lasted the podcast, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're going into the Sunday review mold so that it

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<v Speaker 2>That was a real shock, m it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a little bit of analysis, John, And if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the professional structure, is there thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>Now? If you take Halifax down, I think there's thirty four?

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<v Speaker 1>basically been in position twelve, seventeen and eighteen on that

421
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<v Speaker 1>if that was one big rugby league table.

422
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, the thing is that you're not including if

423
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<v Speaker 2>you go back another three and a bit years you

424
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<v Speaker 2>also had Cornwall, West Wales and London Scholars to.

425
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<v Speaker 1>That as well, and they were at the bottom end

426
00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>weren't they There were all League One clubs yet, but

427
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<v Speaker 1>what's but they were at the bottom end of League

428
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<v Speaker 1>One is my point. Yes, but these guys Featherstone, Salford

429
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<v Speaker 1>and now Halifax. In Salford's case they were in Super League.

430
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<v Speaker 1>In terms of Halifax, they were going quite well last year,

431
00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:58.079
<v Speaker 1>so they've obviously spent some money. Featherstone the same spent

432
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<v Speaker 1>some money in the past to achieve good things on

433
00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the field. Yeah, so there's a pattern there with all

434
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<v Speaker 1>three of those clubs.

435
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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, there's there's individual circumstances for all three,

436
00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:10.839
<v Speaker 2>so I wouldn't put a blanket thing over And obviously

437
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:13.880
<v Speaker 2>with Salford I've written about that numerous times over the

438
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.599
<v Speaker 2>last twelve months. If you have a look at my

439
00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:19.039
<v Speaker 2>free lngread with Paul King. I think that goes in

440
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:23.519
<v Speaker 2>a lot of detail. But the Halifax example, I did

441
00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:27.279
<v Speaker 2>an exclusive probably eighteen months ago, and they were they

442
00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:29.759
<v Speaker 2>owed quite a bit of money in rent to They

443
00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:33.079
<v Speaker 2>don't own their stadium Machae, it's owned by the Calderdale Council.

444
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:36.440
<v Speaker 2>They owed a fair bit of money in rent and

445
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:39.720
<v Speaker 2>that winding up order which eventually sent them bus last

446
00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:42.680
<v Speaker 2>week was actually issued in twenty twenty four and they

447
00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>had phoned under the radar. But the common theme I

448
00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:48.519
<v Speaker 2>think you could say lee is the TV deal for

449
00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Super League. So pre COVID, say twenty nineteen, it was

450
00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:58.200
<v Speaker 2>forty million a year. Now that meant one point eight

451
00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:01.400
<v Speaker 2>million to all twelve Super League clubs and then quite

452
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.079
<v Speaker 2>a big chunk went to the championship in League One.

453
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<v Speaker 2>So at the top of the championship it was determined.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Funding was determined on how you finished on the table,

455
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<v Speaker 2>which I always thought was madness because not every club

456
00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:14.559
<v Speaker 2>got the same amount and it wasn't fair. But the

457
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.559
<v Speaker 2>top clubs were getting half a million now because the

458
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:19.759
<v Speaker 2>TV deal was almost gone, But it's about twenty one

459
00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:22.119
<v Speaker 2>and a half million at the moment. Those clubs who

460
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:24.039
<v Speaker 2>were getting half a million are now getting one hundred

461
00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:25.599
<v Speaker 2>and forty thousand, and then the lower end clubs are

462
00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:30.680
<v Speaker 2>getting twenty thirty grand, but they're still spending. Like the

463
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.599
<v Speaker 2>wages for part time rugby league for players is crazy

464
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<v Speaker 2>in England.

465
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<v Speaker 1>It's much more than especially at the top end that

466
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:37.599
<v Speaker 1>was pushing together.

467
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and those clubs I don't know much about

468
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Halifax specifically, sorry, but I know with Featherstone because I

469
00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:48.559
<v Speaker 2>wrote a lot about them. They were paying wages they

470
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<v Speaker 2>could not afford, they were not paying pensions. Players at

471
00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Featherston had told me they never got paid pensions and

472
00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:59.400
<v Speaker 2>they had numerous debts accumulating. And Featherston also got I

473
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:02.079
<v Speaker 2>think it was two million quid from the Wakefield council,

474
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, the same as Castleford and Wakefield did. So yeah,

475
00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:12.119
<v Speaker 2>it's just bad financial mismanagement. But the whole structure, Championship

476
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:16.119
<v Speaker 2>League One structure and the sustainability is just off the

477
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:19.000
<v Speaker 2>charts in terms of what the crowds they get and

478
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:22.000
<v Speaker 2>the interest in the competitions and the players what they earn.

479
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:25.279
<v Speaker 2>It's just not It's never been sustainable. So could you

480
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.119
<v Speaker 2>predict more? Can you predict more that will be in peril?

481
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say predict predict more because obviously there's been

482
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:35.599
<v Speaker 2>issues around hold them. But they did pay their winding

483
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:40.880
<v Speaker 2>up petition last week. Did North Wales sort their issues out? Well,

484
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:44.200
<v Speaker 2>that's a really interesting one because obviously there was allegations

485
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>that players weren't getting paid. Seems to have gone quiet.

486
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:50.119
<v Speaker 2>They're obviously playing the season. But I do think that

487
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:53.440
<v Speaker 2>the current system there isn't just there isn't enough money

488
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Speaker 2>or enough fans or enough interest to sustain you know,

489
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the current system. I don't. I don't think this kind

490
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:04.240
<v Speaker 2>of full time and then almost full time, a little

491
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:06.960
<v Speaker 2>bit part time, and then very you know, minor part

492
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:11.119
<v Speaker 2>time works. I just I never thought it has with

493
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:16.839
<v Speaker 2>what was thirty seven clubs which is now thirty three clubs. Yeah,

494
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:21.119
<v Speaker 2>I think unless the TV deal goes up, we could

495
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:24.160
<v Speaker 2>be in for more pain in the coming months.

496
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's talk some football. The York nineteen Hulkingston Rovers eighteen,

497
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>the newly promoted side that we believe OKR may have

498
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:36.839
<v Speaker 1>asked to play before the World Club Challenge, ended up

499
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>getting the chocolates. I have done an awful lot of

500
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:45.400
<v Speaker 1>analysis on Hulkington Rovers in the off season, and I've

501
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>got to be honest, based on what I saw, they

502
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:51.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't seem to do much different to what I outlund

503
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>in LISVID. And of course, when the videos I analyzed

504
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>tended to be the Challenge Cup Final and the Grand Final,

505
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:05.039
<v Speaker 1>when they were basically at their in theory peak with

506
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>that rustiness as well that you get in the first

507
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>game of the season. Ok I looked a bit average

508
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:13.759
<v Speaker 1>John and it doesn't look good for the World Cup

509
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:14.759
<v Speaker 1>challenge based on that.

510
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there was a few things that went obviously,

511
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, York were fired up their own home, you know,

512
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>their debut and Super League. It was pissing down with

513
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:27.039
<v Speaker 2>rain and the weather can be a bit of a leveler.

514
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.759
<v Speaker 2>Hokkoir lost in Hadley in the warm up and then

515
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Jess Litton went off for Hia second third minute in.

516
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they worked, they looked they were rossy. Look,

517
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>York's defense early on was amazing there through everything. Hulkau's

518
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>attack was for me, was a bit one dimensional. They

519
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.480
<v Speaker 2>just tried to barge through the middle and you're defended

520
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.440
<v Speaker 2>that really well. But look, Holka I came back into

521
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.359
<v Speaker 2>the game and at what eighteen six, with twenty minutes

522
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:58.160
<v Speaker 2>to go, that had the game won essentially, and then

523
00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:00.599
<v Speaker 2>there was a massive brain explosion from like e Lewis,

524
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 2>he tripped Lean Harris, the York half back. There was

525
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 2>no need for it, and that sent them down to

526
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 2>twelve men and then they scored two tries and look

527
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:13.519
<v Speaker 2>they just yeah, they took their chances. It was a

528
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:15.599
<v Speaker 2>really strange game in that way. But look, it was

529
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 2>a fantastic result and you know, you've got to York

530
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 2>is just such a great story, like you've got to

531
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.680
<v Speaker 2>be happy for them, But yeah, it was pretty disappointed

532
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 2>in whole Car. Yeah, they'll need to and I have

533
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>no doubt that will be better against the Broncos, but

534
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>that will need to lift several several notches to have

535
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:37.920
<v Speaker 2>a chance of beating the Broncos.

536
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.519
<v Speaker 1>In this week's analysis video, were actually going to look

537
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:44.559
<v Speaker 1>at some of the ways that the tries were scored

538
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:48.279
<v Speaker 1>and how they were conceded, because what many coaches will

539
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 1>be doing this week, John is looking at their opposition

540
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>this week and seeing if one edge is slightly weaker

541
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>than the other, if they were conceding tries in the

542
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>middle of the field in terms of you know, around

543
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the forwards, if they were conceding breaks in the middle

544
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.519
<v Speaker 1>of the field in terms of near the halfway line. Therefore,

545
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I've done a bit of analysis in and around that.

546
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Now York got a little bit wrong on their own

547
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>goal line, and that will be a worry for them because,

548
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>like you said, whole k R were very direct and

549
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 1>whole k R's tries were basically forwards falling over the line, right,

550
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>So so I mean, I don't know if you should

551
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>be conceding those tries at the top level, quite frankly.

552
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:40.359
<v Speaker 1>And a word of caution for all those excited by

553
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:46.119
<v Speaker 1>to lose Bradford and York your first game. If you don't,

554
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>if you don't win your first game, or don't play

555
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>well in your first game, then it's only going to

556
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:54.319
<v Speaker 1>get harder from there. Basically, in terms of whole KR,

557
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>one of the things I picked up during the off

558
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:03.720
<v Speaker 1>season is when they are defending, particularly particularly in their

559
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>own half, they can be too aggressive sometimes, John So

560
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you have to just make a tackle, particularly on

561
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:16.599
<v Speaker 1>you've got one goal line, and if you are too aggressive,

562
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.599
<v Speaker 1>that leads to things like coming out of the line

563
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:22.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to hit someone. So Joe Burgess, for example, got

564
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>one very wrong for York's first try. He didn't need

565
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.319
<v Speaker 1>to come out of the line. There was a couple

566
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>of occasions too where players came out of the line

567
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to try and hit someone and it just led to

568
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:42.599
<v Speaker 1>breaks or tries. And I guess when they play Brisbane

569
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:46.519
<v Speaker 1>this week, they've got to be smarter than that. They

570
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:48.839
<v Speaker 1>absolutely have got to be smarter than that. Now I

571
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.759
<v Speaker 1>know they have to be physical on paying hests. But

572
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.079
<v Speaker 1>at the same time you've got to make defensive plays

573
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:01.279
<v Speaker 1>that have a less less margin for error, so in

574
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>other words, less chance of failing and okay, getting that

575
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 1>balance quite wrong, I'm finding and if they don't fix

576
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>it very quickly, and Brisbane attack clicks and Brisbane have

577
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 1>done what many World Club Challenge teams from Australia have

578
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>done when they've won, they've had an opposed session a

579
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:26.519
<v Speaker 1>week before. Because this is something I analyze quite significantly.

580
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I like to see British teams playing Australian teams. It's

581
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>my favorite thing, like the Ashes. And basically some Australian

582
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 1>teams come over and I remember stories. I won't name

583
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:42.839
<v Speaker 1>the team, I won't name the coach, but I can

584
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you a story that during a World Club Challenge

585
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>game Wants the coach, resplendent in Hawaiian shirt, decided to

586
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>have an abolution on the main concourse halfway halfway through

587
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the first half, not on the main concourse, in the

588
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>toilets and the main So so that is a that

589
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>is a sign that some of them come on holiday

590
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>as well. But Brisbane Broncos are preparing properly for this

591
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and there's going to be a big week for whole

592
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.359
<v Speaker 1>KR but don't worry, we'll go back to that soon.

593
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>The Catalans twenty four Huddersfield ten. That was probably the

594
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>only crowd john that wasn't full house signs or nearly.

595
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>There was a few empty seats there. But jeez, it

596
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>was persisting down in south of France.

597
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think obviously it was. It was rainy,

598
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 2>there was a huge amount of minor and I think

599
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:39.720
<v Speaker 2>they'd been like weather warnings in in Perpunon so and

600
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:43.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, in fairness not not having a crack at Huddersfield,

601
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:44.799
<v Speaker 2>but they probably don't take a lot of fans either,

602
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>so I think it was it was seven thousand and

603
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:50.119
<v Speaker 2>something in their average last year was nine in a

604
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:53.839
<v Speaker 2>bit thousand in Generally you get more away fans when

605
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>it mops up and we move in the summer. But

606
00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was quite an entertaining game. I just

607
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:03.759
<v Speaker 2>felt defended quite well earlier. But it was some lovely

608
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>play from Catlaiins. I think the player of the match

609
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.719
<v Speaker 2>for me was the center. I'm just trying to remember

610
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:13.880
<v Speaker 2>his name, Solomona. I don't know actually how to pronounce it,

611
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:18.679
<v Speaker 2>but for tape. Yeah, he destroyed I think it was

612
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.360
<v Speaker 2>tanau Mille on numerous occasions, scored a try, set up

613
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Speaker 2>a try and outrageous offload. Charlie Stains looked good at fullback.

614
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Obviously he's a winger, but he's playing a fullback. And

615
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Lewis Dodd had some lovely player and so did TV

616
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Sexton and will be back in the NRL in twelve months.

617
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:39.360
<v Speaker 2>So what exactly Catlaians after a pretty shit twenty fifteen,

618
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:44.639
<v Speaker 2>we'll get banned on YouTube. Sorry, pretty average twenty twenty

619
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:48.679
<v Speaker 2>five they needed then they played well, the well deserved

620
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>the victory the Dragons.

621
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention Lewis Dodd because he did some

622
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 1>great things for Catalan's first try, sort of shimmy across it.

623
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Wore were like a completely different player to the one

624
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that was at South Sydney and he looks liberated. And

625
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 1>I know he's had a contract extension before the season started,

626
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>so good on him. Good to see him back on

627
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:12.760
<v Speaker 1>his dancing feet. Huddersfield defense, like I said, I'm on

628
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>this same of looking at where they were weaker, looked

629
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.599
<v Speaker 1>absolutely labored in the middle. I mean, I know the

630
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>field was wet and slosh here, but it looked tired

631
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and it was frightfully out of shape on the edges,

632
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>particularly the right edge, which I think was Fatarpe and Milne.

633
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, is that right?

634
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:35.440
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, right?

635
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>So what happened? What happens John? When players know that

636
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the opposition center or people on that side of the

637
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>field have got it over them physically, they tend to

638
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>over over indulge in terms of trying to fly out

639
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 1>of the line. And I guess this is what I'm

640
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 1>referring to in terms of okay, are they need a

641
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 1>bit more composure? Well, Huddersfield lost all composure there and

642
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>whoever playing them this week, I think we'll be having

643
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>a real go at that edge before this field. Warrington

644
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty four Saint Helen's fourteen. I mean, it's so interesting

645
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:18.280
<v Speaker 1>this Sam Burgess is a coach under pressure and all

646
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the offseason noises were how much better Saint Helen's were

647
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:27.599
<v Speaker 1>going to be an attack? Instead it was Warrington's night.

648
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>It was a sellout, it was a dominant win and

649
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:35.199
<v Speaker 1>like I said, a week is a long time in

650
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>rugby league. One thing about Paul Rowley sides John and

651
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:44.280
<v Speaker 1>have analyzed his sides from when he was coach of Salford.

652
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 1>They tend to be a bit looser, in significantly looser

653
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:51.119
<v Speaker 1>in defense than they are in attack. I think they're

654
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.320
<v Speaker 1>a bit too heavily leaned in attack, and based on

655
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.559
<v Speaker 1>round one, this could be an issue the right edge

656
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:01.719
<v Speaker 1>of Saint Helen's I think it was Robinson mister tackle

657
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>for one try, uh Sailor mister tackle for the second tries.

658
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>When Wendell Sailor's son Tristan was a speed bump for

659
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>much of the name it was that would suggest why

660
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:18.519
<v Speaker 1>he's been used at fullback.

661
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:23.039
<v Speaker 2>It was well. The the interesting thing I found was

662
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.599
<v Speaker 2>that he was at six with Hastings at seven, and

663
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 2>they had Joint Lomax on the back as a as

664
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:32.159
<v Speaker 2>a backup hooker. Johnny Lomax is a fantastic footballer, but

665
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 2>he's not a hooker, so that that was really odd.

666
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.239
<v Speaker 2>And Sailor's not six for me, so obviously Wellsby is injured,

667
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 2>so Saylor you would think will be at fullback this

668
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 2>weekend in round two. But that dynamic just didn't really work,

669
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 2>and I think the Saints attack was it wasn't wasn't great.

670
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:50.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I had one try, which for me was

671
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 2>a definite try. I think they know the video referenced

672
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 2>under that one, but I don't think it changed the

673
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 2>outcome of the game because I think Warrington were well

674
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 2>deserved victor victors.

675
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>To me, smart coaches tend to put a team out

676
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 1>early in the year that's better defensively because your combinations

677
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:16.760
<v Speaker 1>tend to take a while to click. And this seems

678
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>like a team that's been put out there to attack

679
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 1>from Saint Helens. And if you're going to go out

680
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 1>to attacks straight away, you needed to click straight away basically,

681
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:29.320
<v Speaker 1>otherwise your defense is going to be under more pressure.

682
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:31.519
<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I mean I thought they were

683
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:34.599
<v Speaker 1>technically a little bit poor, a little bit too spread

684
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>in d so many of their players were mixed up

685
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.639
<v Speaker 1>between if they had to come up and in or

686
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>up and out. And these are all similar things I

687
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:47.280
<v Speaker 1>saw under Rolly at Salford. So it's been a it's

688
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>been a chess chastening, chastening week, I think, chasing week

689
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>for Saint Helens, and it'd be really interesting to see

690
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:56.440
<v Speaker 1>what they do this week, cause I think they have

691
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>to travel to France.

692
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they they're playing to lose. I'm not sure.

693
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Actually, I'll look up the I think it's Catalano. I've

694
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>got the fixtures at the end and we'll talk through them.

695
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:10.239
<v Speaker 2>So I think.

696
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:14.199
<v Speaker 1>I think whoever they play the the coach will be

697
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.559
<v Speaker 1>looking at their the Saint Howard's right edge, which will

698
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>be the attacks left.

699
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Now they've got They've got Lee at home, which is

700
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.400
<v Speaker 2>a tough game. Oh why where did they guess front

701
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 2>from Lee twenty six leads fourteen? Your thoughts on that,

702
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:34.840
<v Speaker 2>John Well, I was watching the Warranty game which was

703
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.000
<v Speaker 2>all at the same time, so I've only seen a

704
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.760
<v Speaker 2>few clips. But yeah, look like Lee we're really good,

705
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:45.679
<v Speaker 2>deserve their victory. Leads had a few injuries now Jake Connor,

706
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 2>which is you know, a massive miss the main of steel.

707
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:51.559
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean, look like I think Lee are

708
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:53.119
<v Speaker 2>a very good team and they have been for a

709
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:57.599
<v Speaker 2>couple of years. You can't you can't write them off.

710
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:02.639
<v Speaker 2>And you know they scored a one an amazing try

711
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 2>just to lock a lay and the ability to keep

712
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.320
<v Speaker 2>the ball alive and play what he sees in front

713
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:11.719
<v Speaker 2>of him. So yeah, not a not a massive surprise,

714
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I would say, but obviously for Leeds a disappointing start

715
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:16.280
<v Speaker 2>for them for everyone.

716
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Leads were a bit soft in the middle for the

717
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:21.559
<v Speaker 1>first two lead tries, just going up a little bit high,

718
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>but then so were leaf for both Leeds first tries too.

719
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 1>It was it was one of those games a little bit.

720
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the crazy try from the start of

721
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>the second half from the kickoff.

722
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.800
<v Speaker 2>That was I think it was jack Usia. That was

723
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 2>just embarrassing. I mean imagine if Brad Arthur had here,

724
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.920
<v Speaker 2>he would have been pointing out that was that was,

725
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:44.079
<v Speaker 2>that was, That was under ten stuff for me.

726
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:48.519
<v Speaker 1>And the Leeds fans were singing testing new is see

727
00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>your next Tuesday apparently, and I think that was happening

728
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:54.119
<v Speaker 1>to Jack o' haytings as well at Warrington and that

729
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>might explain some of the taita te with the fans.

730
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the testing ewy think. I mean, look, it's probably

731
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:07.920
<v Speaker 2>going to happen every week. And they gave him the

732
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.920
<v Speaker 2>match I think the league club as well. So yeah,

733
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.079
<v Speaker 2>it's an interesting approach, let's put it that way.

734
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:16.599
<v Speaker 1>I should have mentioned this year in the Warrington Saint

735
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:20.559
<v Speaker 1>Helen's review jack o' hasting's talking to the fans as

736
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>he did, and what what do you make of that?

737
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean he's come out afterwards saying get it

738
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:31.960
<v Speaker 2>exactly right. There was something about you know, he was

739
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.679
<v Speaker 2>worried about his partner and his child, and you know

740
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 2>there was a fan rejected from the Warrington fan ejected

741
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>from the stands, and other people have said, you know,

742
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:44.800
<v Speaker 2>he was copying abuse. Look, it's a difficult one. Obviously,

743
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 2>if he's partner and or child were in danger then

744
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>you can completely understand it. But it's probably not a

745
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.599
<v Speaker 2>good look for you know, he was obviously upset and

746
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.599
<v Speaker 2>angry for a week time by the footage, and you

747
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:58.280
<v Speaker 2>know trying jumping into the the stands is not a

748
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:02.719
<v Speaker 2>good look either. I spoke to officials of the Warrington club.

749
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 2>They weren't aware of it, so I don't know if

750
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 2>any Warrington fan actually was ejected. But yeah, it's not

751
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.000
<v Speaker 2>a great It's not a great start, is it. Under

752
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought he ran the ball a lot, you know,

753
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.840
<v Speaker 2>try to throw a lot of dummies but got caught,

754
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:18.719
<v Speaker 2>got tackled with the ball, and hands a lot. Probably

755
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.079
<v Speaker 2>tried to do too much and overplayed his hand at times.

756
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.760
<v Speaker 2>But look, he's obviously he's played at Wigan, he's played

757
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.880
<v Speaker 2>at Salford. You know he's going to be a target

758
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:33.960
<v Speaker 2>for opposition fans, opposition players, but yeah, just everything, everything

759
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then you look at the John Walken

760
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 2>comments after the game. Everything went wrong for Helens on

761
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Friday night.

762
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>My favorite try of the week I think it was

763
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:51.679
<v Speaker 1>the first try that whole FC scored a great, whole run.

764
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you tweeted about it. So basically the Bulls

765
00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.159
<v Speaker 1>conceded two tries very early around around their heart with

766
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.000
<v Speaker 1>people just screaming onto the ball and running great lines.

767
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:06.039
<v Speaker 1>I think you've tweeted about it. That was my favorite

768
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.159
<v Speaker 1>try of the weekend. Actually, I love to see a

769
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 1>back rower or a center just coming onto the ball.

770
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Bradford have got some real issues on their edges and

771
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>that will only get worse if they've got injuries, because

772
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I think they picked up a couple of injuries as well.

773
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:27.039
<v Speaker 1>So you try and control the middle, and then if

774
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't control the middle the edges, the edges get exposed.

775
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Whole f C have an issue on their right side

776
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of defense. I think that's what I picked up from

777
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:37.559
<v Speaker 1>that game. What did you get from that?

778
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look at that was a really entertaining game. I

779
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.679
<v Speaker 2>think I was twenty Bradford, we're unlacking not to win it.

780
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it was the try the wanger Blake set

781
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>up in the corner of the way, Bradford was rowing

782
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.559
<v Speaker 2>the baller and was great to watch. And you know,

783
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:58.199
<v Speaker 2>I think that were really credible. Full credit to them. Yeah,

784
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>obviously they didn't get winning. It was it was funny.

785
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:01.760
<v Speaker 1>It was.

786
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Leon Price's son Will who kicked a drop ball, who

787
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:11.159
<v Speaker 2>was obviously the son of a Bradford legend. Yeah, and

788
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:13.599
<v Speaker 2>then they push on. But yeah, look, I think I

789
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 2>think Bradford, you know, they competed. They'll be disappointed they

790
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't get a win, but they can regroup and go again.

791
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.119
<v Speaker 2>You are right. They've started the season before the season

792
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:26.360
<v Speaker 2>with injury problems and picked up a few more. So

793
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:28.719
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a hard season for them. But look,

794
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:30.920
<v Speaker 2>they can take a lot of heart from for what the.

795
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Tough fixture, tough, tough, you know, definitely tough reintroduction all away.

796
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they'll be Gladys wasn't at the Boulevard and

797
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:44.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't didn't they didn't. They look like Penrith Panthers in

798
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:45.199
<v Speaker 1>the kit that they had.

799
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:47.519
<v Speaker 2>It's a good kit. I like the kid. That's a

800
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:48.360
<v Speaker 2>good kid. It's funny.

801
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Twenty years ago everyone everybody else would have said that

802
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Penrith looked like the Bradford Bulls. Now it's the other

803
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:56.840
<v Speaker 1>way around. There's been a lot changed in that time.

804
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Wakefield sixteenth to lose eighteen. I always think to lose

805
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:07.599
<v Speaker 1>is one of the most unfortunate names. Should be to win,

806
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>should be able to change it. Both defensive edges in

807
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>this game got penetrated. To lose in particular, did concede

808
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:20.079
<v Speaker 1>a bit from the middle of the field, actually, but

809
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>they scrambled so well I did. And one thing I

810
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:26.760
<v Speaker 1>noticed in this game the both teams were trying to

811
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:30.719
<v Speaker 1>push the ball outside the defense because neither defense wanted

812
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to give an inch. I think the key thing in

813
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:36.119
<v Speaker 1>this though, was how many goal kicks on missed man

814
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:36.760
<v Speaker 1>both sides?

815
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think did sins Iuge hit the post three

816
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:42.599
<v Speaker 2>times or something? I mean, he had he had a

817
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.239
<v Speaker 2>fantastic game, and he was obviously an ex Catalans player

818
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:49.639
<v Speaker 2>and really took his opportunity to lose. But yeah, he

819
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:53.199
<v Speaker 2>had no luck with the boot, but he was great.

820
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:56.639
<v Speaker 2>Olieshow bought the fullback that to loose was fantastic. This

821
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:59.119
<v Speaker 2>is just a great, a great game. And I think,

822
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, after what Wakefield did last year, most people

823
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 2>would have expected and I'm sure the Boockets had Wakefield

824
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.760
<v Speaker 2>is big, big favorites. But to the loose they scrambled

825
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.360
<v Speaker 2>so well, a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of grit,

826
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:12.880
<v Speaker 2>and they got away with the win. And that's that's

827
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 2>exactly the sort of start that they that they needed,

828
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:19.239
<v Speaker 2>will give them a lot of you know, confidence going

829
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:21.119
<v Speaker 2>into round two and the rest of the season.

830
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:25.639
<v Speaker 1>I remember looking at Oli ash Or Bolt, I'm thinking,

831
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Geez looks so French, just in his mannerisms and whatnot.

832
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:35.079
<v Speaker 2>And I think he's from Witness. He's from Witness. It's

833
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:38.360
<v Speaker 2>an interesting it's an interesting just.

834
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 1>In his mannerisms and the way he celebrated things. And

835
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>and then we had Cast versus Wig and overnight I

836
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:49.519
<v Speaker 1>think Wigan were quite comfortable in this actually, and then

837
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:54.679
<v Speaker 1>fell asleep. I think Wigan probably controlled the the majority

838
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>of the game in terms of pressure and field position

839
00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:57.559
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot.

840
00:46:58.159 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a bit hard on Cast. I thought

841
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Casts were really credible. You know, they made some mistakes

842
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:06.880
<v Speaker 2>which they coughed up, some cheat ball, but I thought

843
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.239
<v Speaker 2>it was really fight to cast. You know that game

844
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:10.920
<v Speaker 2>last year. You played that game last year. The probably

845
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:11.840
<v Speaker 2>would have been by forty.

846
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Wigan did control it on the scoreboard. I

847
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:19.719
<v Speaker 1>mean they went to you know, scoreboard wise Cast have

848
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.679
<v Speaker 1>scored a couple of late tries when Wigan decided.

849
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:27.800
<v Speaker 2>To wid that. Wigan had Kieran sim bind for a

850
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 2>shot to the head. And look, I think the Wigan tries,

851
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 2>a couple of them particularly, were just there was some

852
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.679
<v Speaker 2>bit of Bev and French brilliance there. I think that

853
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.159
<v Speaker 2>that ability that dry Field has to to kind of

854
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.199
<v Speaker 2>drift across the field open things up the same with

855
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.159
<v Speaker 2>French and Exusley was very good on the edges. But

856
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:48.119
<v Speaker 2>they probably highlight from for Wigan. It was a Wigan

857
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 2>of old, probably Wiggan twenty twenty four performance. And Mago

858
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mago he was he was knocking blokes out away,

859
00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 2>carrying the ball really strong, so it was good.

860
00:47:58.719 --> 00:47:59.840
<v Speaker 1>It was a really good I was going to say

861
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:01.440
<v Speaker 1>when he said he was knocking blokes out of the way,

862
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:03.079
<v Speaker 1>was this on his way to the ground or.

863
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Well wouldn't. He's bloody huge so I wouldn't get his way.

864
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:10.119
<v Speaker 2>But I thought we were really good. But I think Cass,

865
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:12.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think there's a lot they can build

866
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.719
<v Speaker 2>on the cut down there as well. I think Cass

867
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.480
<v Speaker 2>are in for a better year in twenty twenty six

868
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.639
<v Speaker 2>than they had in twenty twenty five. Absolute so much

869
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.519
<v Speaker 2>because I think they only won seven games last year,

870
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:27.639
<v Speaker 2>but I think they'll be much improved this year.

871
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 1>They've got to fix their left edge in defense. They've

872
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:37.000
<v Speaker 1>got an issue there. The field was heavy and both

873
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:43.719
<v Speaker 1>sides conceded tries late on with somebody waltzing through the middle. Wigan,

874
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>to be fair cast, did have bodies in motion for

875
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:48.639
<v Speaker 1>one of their late tries, but it was it was

876
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:52.519
<v Speaker 1>a heavy field. Wiggans left edge will be a little

877
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:56.400
<v Speaker 1>bit of concern for coach Matty Pete. A bit of

878
00:48:56.440 --> 00:49:00.599
<v Speaker 1>a news roundup. We've already mentioned Halifax, but there's a

879
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:05.239
<v Speaker 1>bit of noise that Adrian Lamb, the league coach, is

880
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:09.760
<v Speaker 1>being looked at or potentially linked with the Papua New

881
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Guinea role.

882
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:14.400
<v Speaker 2>The ping G Chiefs. That is not the chief the

883
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 2>new NRL club for Yeah, I had someone mentioned that

884
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:21.599
<v Speaker 2>to me about two weeks ago. I did put it

885
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 2>to Adrian Lamb at the Super League launch, you know,

886
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.559
<v Speaker 2>and he well it's not that he denied it, but

887
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.360
<v Speaker 2>he basically said, you know, he's not he's not spoken

888
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:34.079
<v Speaker 2>to them, and blah blah blah blah blah. But look,

889
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you think of Papa, you grew Guinea

890
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:42.199
<v Speaker 2>and rugby league. If I can get it out over

891
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:44.480
<v Speaker 2>thirty years, I mean, who do you think of? I

892
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:49.159
<v Speaker 2>would say probably there's three people standing again a Adrian Lamb,

893
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Marcus By. Yeah that that that for me would be

894
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:57.119
<v Speaker 2>the top three. And of those three, the man who's

895
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.360
<v Speaker 2>a very very good coach and is you know, maybe

896
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 2>the most legendary of those status but is Adrian Lamb.

897
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.920
<v Speaker 2>And his son's also Locker Lamb, the star halfback. So

898
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:13.679
<v Speaker 2>I think he would be perfect for that NRL role.

899
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Whether he takes it or not, I don't know. He's

900
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:18.280
<v Speaker 2>done a great job at Lee. He was an assistant

901
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:21.599
<v Speaker 2>the NRL for god knows how long and Wayne Benner

902
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:25.000
<v Speaker 2>and other coaches. He was a sensational health back for

903
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:26.679
<v Speaker 2>the Roosters. I didn't really see him play at Wigan,

904
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:31.119
<v Speaker 2>but I'm sure it was good. Yeah. So yeah, I

905
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:33.880
<v Speaker 2>think he'd be you know, born and raised in Port

906
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Moresby before he moved to Queensland. I think at eight

907
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:39.039
<v Speaker 2>or nine years old, I think he'd be great for

908
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:42.320
<v Speaker 2>the P and G Chiefs, But we'll see on that one.

909
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.519
<v Speaker 2>I think if there is any movement, he won't be

910
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.840
<v Speaker 2>till the end of this year because obviously he would

911
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:51.119
<v Speaker 2>need I would say, much like melmon Inger, you know,

912
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty seven to recruit for P and G to

913
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:55.880
<v Speaker 2>come in in twenty twenty eight.

914
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm wondering if that place needs him all the year.

915
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.760
<v Speaker 1>You did mention briefly the Super League launch told us

916
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:04.880
<v Speaker 1>about that. You did get some audio, but it was

917
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:08.719
<v Speaker 1>hard for me to put it into the podcast because microphone.

918
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 2>It was a good launch, was that there was somewhe ironic.

919
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:17.239
<v Speaker 2>It was at the National Football Museum in Manchester, which

920
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:21.199
<v Speaker 2>is soccer for those people who don't know, and for me,

921
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's a lovely venue. It is funny though

922
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:26.760
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't probably get rugby union launching an event at

923
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:32.000
<v Speaker 2>a National rugby League or you know, cricket museum. Yeah,

924
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:38.000
<v Speaker 2>but look it was. It was well done. It was

925
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:40.920
<v Speaker 2>a great celebration of the thirty years of Super League.

926
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:44.719
<v Speaker 2>A lot of ex legendary players there, some old shirts,

927
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:49.840
<v Speaker 2>some great mockups of past great players, and yeah, I

928
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:54.679
<v Speaker 2>mean I've been to probably twelve thirty launches. It was

929
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:57.880
<v Speaker 2>definitely one of the better ones. We even't got a

930
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:02.599
<v Speaker 2>few free beers, which is always so nice for the

931
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:05.719
<v Speaker 2>poor journals like myself. But yeah, it was good. It

932
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:07.320
<v Speaker 2>was It was a good launch, and there was lots

933
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:11.440
<v Speaker 2>of people you know, up for interview and yeah, I

934
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.440
<v Speaker 2>mean I think it flowed well into what we've just

935
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:15.239
<v Speaker 2>seen in round one.

936
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Not to listeners. If journalists say that the launch was

937
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:25.119
<v Speaker 1>good they got free beer. Johnny's job this week. I

938
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 1>think you've already mentioned this. I've got it down as

939
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:31.639
<v Speaker 1>fan trolling of John Davidson. So you've been You've had

940
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:32.679
<v Speaker 1>a tough week this week.

941
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's just part of the course. As I said,

942
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.719
<v Speaker 2>I think journalistic turd was it was my highlight. I

943
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:47.079
<v Speaker 2>think I think I had journalistic ben But yeah, journalistic

944
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.960
<v Speaker 2>what bend part that was? That was an interesting one

945
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:52.880
<v Speaker 2>that was that was a year or two before. But yeah, no,

946
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:58.039
<v Speaker 2>look I don't I mean, it's it's I'm not sure

947
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:01.920
<v Speaker 2>who's what the reason is for this, but I don't

948
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:04.440
<v Speaker 2>choose the images in an article that goes in the

949
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:07.880
<v Speaker 2>eye now, I mean that's a sub edit's job. I

950
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:14.119
<v Speaker 2>don't generally write the headlines either. And also while I

951
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:16.519
<v Speaker 2>do pitch stories and pitch ideas for this one, this

952
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:20.239
<v Speaker 2>wasn't my idea. It was. But the point is, the

953
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Bradford story is a valid story. I know a lot

954
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.079
<v Speaker 2>of people don't want to acknowledge it or want to

955
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:28.440
<v Speaker 2>ignore it, or think that everything's spreaded on. So but

956
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:31.760
<v Speaker 2>you know the legitimate questions. So that is the role

957
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:35.440
<v Speaker 2>of the media. And if you actually read the article,

958
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 2>which seems like a lot of people did, they are imbalanced. Yeah,

959
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:44.920
<v Speaker 2>but look, people are tired to their opinion. I found

960
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:46.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the abuse I found quite funny.

961
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Actually yet journalistic turd Like with feces, with excrement, you

962
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 1>actually get the truth come out in the bowl. So

963
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:00.960
<v Speaker 1>if you've had sweet corn, you'll see it in the bowl.

964
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:05.159
<v Speaker 1>So if you've had red wine, guinness, you'll see it

965
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:07.000
<v Speaker 1>in the bowl. You know, so on and so forth.

966
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:09.239
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's a compliment.

967
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Lee's laugh.

968
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about fields in Yorkshire, Castleford to

969
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 1>pitch with like a paddock today. What's been going on

970
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:20.440
<v Speaker 1>there during the off season?

971
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Look, it has been raining every daily, like to be fair,

972
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:25.840
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean anybody has to run at it on me,

973
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:30.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't think they train on the jungle pitch.

974
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:35.719
<v Speaker 2>They've got an astroid being built extraor if it's finished.

975
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:38.639
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah it was. It was the look the

976
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:46.639
<v Speaker 2>weather has been shocking. Yeah yeah, I mean it's it's

977
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:50.360
<v Speaker 2>it's people forget maybe in Australia that Super League moved

978
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:55.400
<v Speaker 2>to summer in ninety six from winter Rugby. We're in

979
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:58.679
<v Speaker 2>February and February is the following month of winter and

980
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.320
<v Speaker 2>so we're still quite far from summer.

981
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:04.519
<v Speaker 1>I prefer to golf February at the start of the

982
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:09.559
<v Speaker 1>end of winter, which ends about ends about middle of June.

983
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:14.559
<v Speaker 2>And summer and England usually runs for four weeks, three

984
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:16.960
<v Speaker 2>weeks if you if you're like a week in August.

985
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Lee's laugh as well. This week.

986
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:24.559
<v Speaker 1>I only realized this this week that the Oddsel pitch

987
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:29.000
<v Speaker 1>at risk of incurring the wrath of the city of Bradford.

988
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:33.960
<v Speaker 1>It's only eighty eight meters long than fifty five meters wide.

989
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:38.199
<v Speaker 2>It's the smallest pitch in Super League, but it is

990
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:40.320
<v Speaker 2>minimum standards.

991
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:43.519
<v Speaker 1>So I think I think jewsburries might be smaller and

992
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:47.000
<v Speaker 1>in superleg I know, yeah, yeah, I think Jewsbury And

993
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying in general that Jewsburry b is smaller

994
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:55.519
<v Speaker 1>eighty eight meters. So in Australia, every pitch is exactly

995
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:59.559
<v Speaker 1>the same sact one hundred meters long and sixty eight

996
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>meters wide. So putting this into context, it's twelve meters

997
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:08.679
<v Speaker 1>shorter than that. And you've got to feel for the

998
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:15.320
<v Speaker 1>poor referees marking the ten because divide eighty eight by

999
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:17.760
<v Speaker 1>ten and you have eight point eight.

1000
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I said this to Kurt Hanging at the launch for

1001
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:23.599
<v Speaker 2>I was doing an interview with him. It could be

1002
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:26.880
<v Speaker 2>quite an advantage for Bradford because being their home pitch,

1003
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:28.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'll try and I'll know, you know

1004
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.559
<v Speaker 2>the intricacies and had to exploit it to their advantage.

1005
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:35.320
<v Speaker 2>So it might be, you know, quite a good advantage

1006
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:35.639
<v Speaker 2>for them.

1007
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Well you told me that you like the football that

1008
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Bradford played against all the expansive football.

1009
00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:43.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, I like the way they moved the ball. It's

1010
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:47.679
<v Speaker 2>not the kick, it's you. You can't really do that

1011
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:52.119
<v Speaker 2>as much on a fifty five meter wide field. That's hard.

1012
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:58.159
<v Speaker 2>That's thirteen meters less. That's a lot lots of inside,

1013
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:02.360
<v Speaker 2>lots of inside runners, and I saw and great skills quickenes.

1014
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:02.559
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1015
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I remember coaching at Jewsbury once and I didn't know

1016
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:08.199
<v Speaker 1>that the field was so small, and I literally changed

1017
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:11.159
<v Speaker 1>the game plan based on the field. I just said

1018
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to the players, plow down the middle and.

1019
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:14.719
<v Speaker 2>What about the hill?

1020
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Surely that yeah, of course, yeah, But eighty eight meters

1021
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:24.000
<v Speaker 1>length is one thing, but fifty five meters wide is

1022
00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:29.960
<v Speaker 1>quite significant. And you understand now why Bradford built such

1023
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:33.559
<v Speaker 1>a big side in their glory years because they would

1024
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:38.840
<v Speaker 1>have had to literally power through teams. And Kurk Haggerty

1025
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:41.639
<v Speaker 1>will have to be careful with his expansive football because

1026
00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:44.800
<v Speaker 1>he will literally end up on the speedway track if

1027
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:45.760
<v Speaker 1>they're not careful.

1028
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:48.719
<v Speaker 2>There's no speedway this year. They've stopped that, so that's

1029
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:52.800
<v Speaker 2>that's a plus, but there's still a track. Yeah.

1030
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Next week this week big game Thursday, John Friday morning

1031
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:01.960
<v Speaker 1>in Australia, and we're going to do a quick recap

1032
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:05.119
<v Speaker 1>pod straight after it aren't we I.

1033
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.559
<v Speaker 2>Can't wait to go to beautiful study Hull and the

1034
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:14.119
<v Speaker 2>M sixty two even that sentence at all, it will

1035
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:16.360
<v Speaker 2>be a great game. I'm a big fan of the

1036
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:21.159
<v Speaker 2>World Cup Challenge. You know, the opportunity to see the

1037
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Erald champions in the flash obviously saw a few of

1038
00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:25.639
<v Speaker 2>their players in the actually is not long ago, but

1039
00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:28.199
<v Speaker 2>you know Rhys Walsh and well we didn't see pain

1040
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Hars the South Sydney bound paid hass. I mean that's

1041
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:33.920
<v Speaker 2>another element to it. But yeah, it should be a

1042
00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:36.519
<v Speaker 2>great game. And look a sellout at the m k M.

1043
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.639
<v Speaker 2>Seeing whole KR play as the home team in the

1044
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:42.320
<v Speaker 2>m k M will be will be weird. How much

1045
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:46.159
<v Speaker 2>do you think that will take away from wal KR. Yeah,

1046
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 2>we myself and Richard share right, asked Eliot Minchella that

1047
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:53.039
<v Speaker 2>at the launch actually, and it was a living pondering.

1048
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:54.760
<v Speaker 2>He must have been. It's going to be a strange thing.

1049
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:58.599
<v Speaker 2>But look, I think the vast majority of fans will

1050
00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 2>be there cheering them on, so it'll make them feel like,

1051
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:05.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, a home stadium, and yeah, look it'll be

1052
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:08.440
<v Speaker 2>a great occasion. It's really you know, as you said, ok,

1053
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:11.320
<v Speaker 2>we're not great in around one. If they're missing mikeay Lewis,

1054
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you would think it's mission impossible. If they've got mikey

1055
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Lewis and obviously, if Dean Hadley makes also come back

1056
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:23.440
<v Speaker 2>from injury and Tom Lamone missed the first game, I

1057
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:25.719
<v Speaker 2>think he's likely to be back for the World Cup challenge.

1058
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it's more of course straight thing, but.

1059
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:29.440
<v Speaker 1>It'll go one way or the other with okay are

1060
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:34.239
<v Speaker 1>they'll either get nervous and well believe they've not trained

1061
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:36.599
<v Speaker 1>hard enough in the off season, or they will get

1062
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:39.199
<v Speaker 1>the bit between their teeth, come back stronger and really

1063
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:39.760
<v Speaker 1>go hard.

1064
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:43.599
<v Speaker 2>I think them I saw them training in the obviously

1065
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:46.280
<v Speaker 2>they've been training hard. I think so you saw them

1066
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:49.400
<v Speaker 2>in one training session and now that defines their whole preseason.

1067
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:52.599
<v Speaker 2>What great, what great observation from you job, Thank you.

1068
00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:55.400
<v Speaker 2>But I think I think you've got to remember the

1069
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Broncos haven't played a game this year, so they're going

1070
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:00.960
<v Speaker 2>to be They're going to be rusty, it's going to

1071
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.719
<v Speaker 2>be probably cold and wet, and they've also had the

1072
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.199
<v Speaker 2>whole paint hass. I mean, you can't underplay how big

1073
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:10.880
<v Speaker 2>this painhass thing is now, you know, you know, if

1074
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:14.440
<v Speaker 2>if reports are true that he went to the to

1075
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:16.840
<v Speaker 2>the Rabbit Oze and said, yeah, just if match what

1076
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:18.320
<v Speaker 2>the Broncos are off for me and I'll come and

1077
01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:20.440
<v Speaker 2>sign like that's a fair slap in the face for

1078
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.559
<v Speaker 2>the Broncos, for Madge, for for what they've achieved. So

1079
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:27.440
<v Speaker 2>the impact that has on the team dynamic. Maybe it will,

1080
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:30.360
<v Speaker 2>maybe it won't. We won't know until we see them play,

1081
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:32.800
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it'll be great. It'll be great occasion.

1082
01:00:33.239 --> 01:00:35.480
<v Speaker 1>If whole KR want to make all left his ground

1083
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:37.519
<v Speaker 1>feel like home, all they need to do is play

1084
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:43.800
<v Speaker 1>a rage of songs. The Bradford Bulls play Catalans on Friday. Yes,

1085
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:47.199
<v Speaker 1>which country are they playing? Are they playing in the

1086
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Republic of.

1087
01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Or they playing? Yes, they are that they're playing in

1088
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:54.199
<v Speaker 2>West Yorkshire. That'll be the first home game and on Sable.

1089
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I think they've playing a big, big event for that.

1090
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:00.920
<v Speaker 2>A bit tough game for brad because cat Lands I

1091
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:06.239
<v Speaker 2>think we're you know, they were impressive on in Romance.

1092
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:07.719
<v Speaker 2>That should be an interesting one.

1093
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:11.559
<v Speaker 1>I the Bulls have got to target this as a

1094
01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:15.440
<v Speaker 1>win after losing last week for sure, But any promote,

1095
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:18.840
<v Speaker 1>any promoted team needs to needs to start well. So

1096
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:21.920
<v Speaker 1>they did start well, they just didn't win on the scoreboard,

1097
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:24.280
<v Speaker 1>so they need to try and make sure they turn

1098
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:27.679
<v Speaker 1>this one into a victory. But Catalan looked okay against

1099
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Huddersfield too. Leeds will fancy their chances at home against York.

1100
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, I think York will be on a higher

1101
01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:40.199
<v Speaker 2>But as I spoke to Mark Applegarth after the win,

1102
01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:42.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously he's got to be careful that he

1103
01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:46.079
<v Speaker 2>can't let his players go to to their heads because

1104
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:49.039
<v Speaker 2>they've got twenty six rounds on a common lead. Headingly,

1105
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:51.320
<v Speaker 2>you know they need to win this game. Look that

1106
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:53.559
<v Speaker 2>you know they want to win something this year. They

1107
01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:56.440
<v Speaker 2>can't be none from two after round two, so I'm

1108
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:59.639
<v Speaker 2>not sure they probably back, but they'll they'll be looking

1109
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:01.519
<v Speaker 2>at you to put in a very good performance to

1110
01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:04.559
<v Speaker 2>get the two points there. A bit disappointing. I think

1111
01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:06.559
<v Speaker 2>this is one of the good things around one which

1112
01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:08.719
<v Speaker 2>helped make it bigger as well as we didn't have

1113
01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:10.840
<v Speaker 2>many games clashing. But we've got three games on the

1114
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Friday night which all kicking off at eight pm, which

1115
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.920
<v Speaker 2>is a real pain in the ass and not great

1116
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:21.760
<v Speaker 2>at scheduling. It's obviously good for crowds though. It's good

1117
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:24.320
<v Speaker 2>for crowds, but you've got to think lee that and

1118
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:25.880
<v Speaker 2>this is I think one of the reasons why the

1119
01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:29.039
<v Speaker 2>NRL doesn't do it is it harns It hurts your

1120
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:32.400
<v Speaker 2>TV ratings. So if you're a fair I don't know,

1121
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:35.519
<v Speaker 2>if you're a fan in London and you might be

1122
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:37.960
<v Speaker 2>in regular league, die hard and watch every game on Sky.

1123
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:41.000
<v Speaker 2>You can't watch three games that all kick off at

1124
01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the same time.

1125
01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Problem is if they spread all the games out, then

1126
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:46.039
<v Speaker 1>some of the fans won't be able to go. I mean,

1127
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:52.599
<v Speaker 1>imagine how many fans, particularly in Yorkshire are season ticket holders,

1128
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:55.239
<v Speaker 1>and even at Wigan and Saint Helens season ticket holders

1129
01:02:55.280 --> 01:03:00.199
<v Speaker 1>for Premier League or Championship football side and they to

1130
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:06.519
<v Speaker 1>play on Saturdays or Sundays. And you know many many

1131
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:11.159
<v Speaker 1>fans in England enjoy both football and rugby league.

1132
01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:12.039
<v Speaker 2>They do.

1133
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:16.360
<v Speaker 1>And and I think playing on Friday night is really

1134
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:19.679
<v Speaker 1>good for crowds because it attended not to be any

1135
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:21.559
<v Speaker 1>anything else on Friday night.

1136
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's also good for corporate hospitality. But

1137
01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:28.039
<v Speaker 2>if you know with football now, which I'm sure you

1138
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:31.960
<v Speaker 2>do know early it's on in England and every night

1139
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:36.320
<v Speaker 2>it's on Monday, it's on Sunday night, Friday night, you

1140
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:40.039
<v Speaker 2>know it's the rarest night is probably Friday, isn't it.

1141
01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:46.320
<v Speaker 2>There's Friday night games on Sky Football now pretty much

1142
01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:49.679
<v Speaker 2>every week. Yeah, but it'll be lower lower t mostly. Yeah,

1143
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:53.079
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's more likely with rugby league fans.

1144
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:56.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, say you're a Warrington fan, you'll watch the

1145
01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:59.320
<v Speaker 2>World Club Challenge on TV, you know. And if if

1146
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:01.400
<v Speaker 2>you're a home and your team's not playing on Friday Night,

1147
01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:04.960
<v Speaker 2>you'd probably watch Leeds or Saint Helen's. But you know,

1148
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:06.760
<v Speaker 2>you have to pick one of those games, and it

1149
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:11.159
<v Speaker 2>does hurt the overall ratings. One of the reasons Friday

1150
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Night was so good in Just Gone was because cat

1151
01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:16.039
<v Speaker 2>Lands were on at six o'clock on a Friday, which

1152
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:18.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they've ever been for, which led into

1153
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:21.440
<v Speaker 2>perfectly to Warrent and Saint Helens. So me, for example,

1154
01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:24.480
<v Speaker 2>was a good four Rugby Football League. Make it easier

1155
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:28.400
<v Speaker 2>for John and everyone else and everyone else.

1156
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Saints play Lee. Yeah, they don't go to they don't

1157
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:38.599
<v Speaker 1>go to France like I thought earlier. Saints play Lee

1158
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:43.639
<v Speaker 1>at home. Lee have had a good win. Saints are

1159
01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:46.239
<v Speaker 1>under the coush a little bit massive week for Saint

1160
01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Helen's rugby league club.

1161
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:50.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is. I mean many Lee's already injured, Jack

1162
01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Wells be injured for months. Yeah, the kind of issue

1163
01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:58.840
<v Speaker 2>there with Jackson Hastings after warranting game, and obviously a

1164
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of speculation about Mike Ross the CEO and what's

1165
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:04.400
<v Speaker 2>happening behind the scenes. So yeah, a bit of a

1166
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:06.480
<v Speaker 2>perfect storm for Saint Alden's. I think they will be

1167
01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:10.119
<v Speaker 2>licking their lips at this one and really fancying their chances.

1168
01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:18.199
<v Speaker 1>Saturday's fixtures to lose host Castleford. Castleford will still have

1169
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:21.079
<v Speaker 1>this game down or something that they can get two

1170
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:27.159
<v Speaker 1>points from, but having played on Sunday the last fixture,

1171
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:29.000
<v Speaker 1>them having to travel to France is going to be

1172
01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:30.159
<v Speaker 1>a tough ask for them, isn't it.

1173
01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean to lose his first home game, I'll

1174
01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:36.239
<v Speaker 2>be They'll be fired up. This should be a really

1175
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:38.679
<v Speaker 2>good game, I think. I think will be going there,

1176
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:43.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, desperate for the win. They won't be going

1177
01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:47.039
<v Speaker 2>there to lose. They won't be going there to lose,

1178
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:51.760
<v Speaker 2>but won't be going to lose to lose. Okay, let's

1179
01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:52.039
<v Speaker 2>move on.

1180
01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:56.679
<v Speaker 1>I think the fixture of the round, apart from the

1181
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:01.000
<v Speaker 1>World Club challenges, the Wigan versus Left c game.

1182
01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, should be a good one. I mean obviously not

1183
01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:07.440
<v Speaker 2>we're going down the Challenge Cup. I think it was

1184
01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:09.199
<v Speaker 2>in the quarter final stage last year, which was a

1185
01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:13.639
<v Speaker 2>big shock. We're get at home. I think I'll have

1186
01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:18.679
<v Speaker 2>I think I'll have too much of the tank for Okay.

1187
01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Is that based on what you've seen this weekend? Yeah?

1188
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Base basedally just the intent I think from Wigan. Yeah,

1189
01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:27.559
<v Speaker 2>it looked like Field and French were back to their best.

1190
01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh and they just Yeah, they seem to be a

1191
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:35.239
<v Speaker 2>real determined purpose from Wigan today against cass And Look,

1192
01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I think are a good team and they've got, you know,

1193
01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:41.559
<v Speaker 2>a lot of attacking weapons, but I think the fact

1194
01:06:41.599 --> 01:06:44.519
<v Speaker 2>that the Bradford pushed them so hard shows that there's

1195
01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:49.480
<v Speaker 2>definitely vulnerabilities there that Wigan can can also exploit.

1196
01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:51.280
<v Speaker 1>One of one of the big factors and we will

1197
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about this more and more as the year goes on,

1198
01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:55.280
<v Speaker 1>is that whole f C have had two more days

1199
01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:59.239
<v Speaker 1>rest than we can have after after the fixture. And

1200
01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:04.159
<v Speaker 1>I think this is important in the first couple of

1201
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:07.840
<v Speaker 1>rounds because your body obviously gets a workout it's probably

1202
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:12.639
<v Speaker 1>not really had after round one, and it also kicks

1203
01:07:12.679 --> 01:07:15.079
<v Speaker 1>in when when the injuries start to kick in as well.

1204
01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:17.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think I think this is going to

1205
01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:19.440
<v Speaker 1>be a tight one. I really do think this is

1206
01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:21.400
<v Speaker 1>a match of the round. And then to round off

1207
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the fixture and once again only one fixture on the

1208
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Sunday and that's Huddersfield versus Wakefield.

1209
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Huge game for both clubs. This yeah local derby.

1210
01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Both teams obviously losing around one will be really wanting

1211
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:44.599
<v Speaker 2>to to get some points on the board. Interesting to

1212
01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:47.960
<v Speaker 2>see what sort of crowd Haddersfield get because you know

1213
01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:50.719
<v Speaker 2>they've well they've had a terrible couple of years to

1214
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:53.239
<v Speaker 2>be to be fair, while Wakefield had a great year

1215
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:57.000
<v Speaker 2>last year, so I would probably put after watching the

1216
01:07:57.039 --> 01:08:00.719
<v Speaker 2>performances both say I'd say Wakefield ahead of this. You

1217
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:06.119
<v Speaker 2>know it's like favorites, but you know too have recruited

1218
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:08.159
<v Speaker 2>well in the off season, so let's see what they

1219
01:08:08.199 --> 01:08:11.719
<v Speaker 2>can do on their own patch. The Giants are unleash John,

1220
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:22.159
<v Speaker 2>what a bumper episode. That was just a great round.

1221
01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Like it's nice to talk about so many great, exciting,

1222
01:08:27.199 --> 01:08:31.520
<v Speaker 2>thrilling competitive things along may continue and obviously a great

1223
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:33.520
<v Speaker 2>only sort of the highlights for the All Star around

1224
01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.039
<v Speaker 2>the Star game looked I didn't see the women's but

1225
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:40.680
<v Speaker 2>the men's looked great, The highlights was fantastic and yeah,

1226
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:42.399
<v Speaker 2>rugby league is back baby.

1227
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:46.399
<v Speaker 1>If you are a coach and you're interested in coaching,

1228
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:48.920
<v Speaker 1>listen to the Rugby League Coach podcast or go to

1229
01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:51.119
<v Speaker 1>Rugby League Coach dot com to tay you, or follow

1230
01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:54.039
<v Speaker 1>me at Rugby League Coach or email me I'd been

1231
01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:57.039
<v Speaker 1>at Rugby League coach dot com to tay you. If

1232
01:08:57.119 --> 01:09:01.039
<v Speaker 1>you like journalists who winge about things, and contact Johnny

1233
01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Davidson where will they get you, John.

1234
01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Lee Addison and get me on journalistic BINDI Johnny d

1235
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Davidson on x and Facebook at John Davidson Journalists. Yeah,

1236
01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:23.239
<v Speaker 2>all lovely comments and bends are welcome.

1237
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:29.039
<v Speaker 1>And for anybody in Bradford John's addresses number four, take

1238
01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:29.399
<v Speaker 1>care of me.

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01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to find the button to end this