1 00:00:02,839 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Broadcasting from Studio a at proven winners Color Joy Shrubs. 2 00:00:06,719 --> 00:00:11,039 It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella, me, 3 00:00:11,279 --> 00:00:17,280 Rick Weist, and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Yay, Today, Stacy, 4 00:00:17,359 --> 00:00:20,960 we get to talk about cottage gardens. The roots are 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:27,640 in self sufficiency. The phrase cottage gardens originates from the small, 6 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:33,960 maybe functional, and certainly densely planted plots surrounding the modest 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:39,280 rural cottages of working class laborers in England, with roots 8 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,799 well that reach back into the fifteenth century. I know 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,679 you love cottage gardens, so do I. 10 00:00:45,039 --> 00:00:49,079 Speaker 2: Well, you know the thing is, I love wild planting. 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,439 I love things to run together, I love things to 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,600 mix together. I like my plants to touch and then 13 00:00:56,679 --> 00:00:59,920 some overlap. So yeah, this is my style of gardening. Now, 14 00:01:00,439 --> 00:01:03,439 I will say cottage gardening does tend to favor sort 15 00:01:03,479 --> 00:01:08,719 of more let's say traditional color palace. Yes, and I 16 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:11,640 generally don't. But it's about the vibe. It's about the 17 00:01:11,719 --> 00:01:14,439 vibe of a cottage garden. You don't actually need to 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,719 use English plants. You can have a cottage gardening style 19 00:01:16,719 --> 00:01:19,640 with North American natives. You could have a cottage garden 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,439 with vegetables. There's many, many different ways to interpret this exuberant, 21 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,879 flower filled approach to gardening. 22 00:01:28,159 --> 00:01:31,239 Speaker 1: Well said, and you are right, many different ways to 23 00:01:31,359 --> 00:01:34,879 interpret it. That's why today we're doing a show on 24 00:01:35,079 --> 00:01:38,599 cottage gardens. A simple way to express it is different 25 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:46,799 flower colors and textures impact informal design. A plethora of plants. 26 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:47,719 Plethora is going. 27 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,239 Speaker 3: To be our word of the I love it. 28 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: A plethora of plants is what every garden needs. 29 00:01:51,519 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: That's right. And if I was starting one, I would 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,159 have to say, for me personally, especially today with the 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,120 incredible cultivars that are available, Stacy, I would start with roses. 32 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: Oh you gotta have roses for a cottage garden. You know, 33 00:02:07,239 --> 00:02:09,840 it's not just that roses are so closely associated with 34 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:13,560 England and English gardening, but you know they are just 35 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,680 a classic choice. They are I think probably the number 36 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:18,919 one plant that's associated with a cottage garden. 37 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: You bet this is right in our wheelhouse. Then no 38 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,240 tapping of the brakes here in unimaginably large number of 39 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,240 plants we've stuffed stuffed into well, maybe what you would 40 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:34,960 consider a small property. And if you want some visual 41 00:02:36,439 --> 00:02:41,599 inspiration Pinterest will give you again word of the day, 42 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:47,240 a plethora of candy for your eyes. I always think 43 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,759 when I hear cottage gardens, I always think of those 44 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,479 Better Homes and Gardens magazines from the nineteen seventies. 45 00:02:54,759 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yep, I remember those. 46 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: A lot of inspiration there. Now. The interesting thing about 47 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:05,879 cottage gardens, and if you have followed the Gardening Simplified Show, 48 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,960 you know that Stacy loves these kind of plants. Stacy 49 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:12,800 self sewing or seeding plants are embraced. 50 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,719 Speaker 2: Oh yes, you got my number. Self sewing and seating 51 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:18,479 plants are such a crucial part of a cottage garden, 52 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:21,319 and they're also the easiest part to have in a 53 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:23,199 cottage garden. So you've heard me talk about it before. 54 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,719 Self sewing plants are those that are true annuals. Generally, 55 00:03:26,759 --> 00:03:29,800 sometimes you're perennials that just sow and pop up here 56 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,080 and there. So you've got things like poppies and arugula 57 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:36,759 and you know, all sorts of wonderful plants like that. 58 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,800 And what they do and the way that I use 59 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,759 them in my garden is they introduce a randomness that 60 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,800 you know, you just cannot replicate by placing plants deliberately 61 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,879 in you know, in a garden, and I love the 62 00:03:51,919 --> 00:03:55,000 way that they just kind of introduce that happenstance and 63 00:03:55,159 --> 00:03:57,719 create interesting new combinations and just make sure that your 64 00:03:57,719 --> 00:04:01,680 garden is always so different your deer. I like that 65 00:04:01,719 --> 00:04:03,919 they don't stay put. I get that other people will 66 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,400 see them as weedy or their unpredictability as a liability. 67 00:04:07,479 --> 00:04:10,800 But you know, if you love this look self, sewers 68 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,080 are really your very best friend. 69 00:04:12,159 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: You bet, I agree. So it's interesting to look at 70 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,519 that concept of cottage gardens. If you have, for example, 71 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:25,279 favorite plants in drifts, that's more of what I would 72 00:04:25,319 --> 00:04:29,120 call a meadow garden. A cottage garden is going to 73 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:35,199 be just a wide variety of individual plants with your taste, 74 00:04:35,639 --> 00:04:39,480 or maybe groupings of three. I think of things like 75 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,079 Shasta daisies. And of course, as I mentioned the roses, 76 00:04:43,879 --> 00:04:47,000 I was thinking, as it relates to cottage gardens, that 77 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,079 the reminiscent roses are ideal for this or the rise 78 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,120 up rosen. 79 00:04:52,079 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: You know it. 80 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,399 Speaker 2: Those are the two that I am spoiler alert going 81 00:04:55,439 --> 00:04:58,360 to recommend in plants on trial. But don't worry, there's 82 00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:00,800 plenty of more plants on se grits to plants on 83 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,160 trial that you have yet to hear. 84 00:05:02,959 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: Now in today in America, the term cottage garden has 85 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,279 been kind of a catch all term to describe a 86 00:05:12,319 --> 00:05:16,360 garden that's bursting at the seams and does not otherwise 87 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:23,000 conform to, let's say, a recognizable style. Individualistic. I would 88 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,480 call it not necessarily out of control, but individualistic. 89 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely not something that can be replicated on other sites. 90 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,480 And you know, it's interesting when you were talking about 91 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,759 how plants are often grouped and that it's typically a 92 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,600 lot of individual plants. Another thing that I do think 93 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,240 is characteristic of a cottage garden are plants that are 94 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,920 easy to grow and divide so that they end up 95 00:05:48,959 --> 00:05:51,360 kind of spreading around the garden as kind of a 96 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:53,920 unifying element, or plants that you're trading off with friends 97 00:05:54,439 --> 00:05:56,680 and that kind of thing. So it's not like, oh, hey, 98 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,639 you know, all of my Shasta daisy's are just relegated 99 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:01,959 here to this section. But it's like I bought a 100 00:06:01,959 --> 00:06:04,360 Shasta daisy. Over the years, it's gotten huge, I've now 101 00:06:04,399 --> 00:06:06,199 divided it and now it's here and here and here 102 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:11,000 here exact and kind of makes that appearance of randomness, 103 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,800 but unity as well, because you have the same plant 104 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,399 used multiple times throughout the garden, but not like you know, 105 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,600 with a real eye towards composition, more with an eye 106 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:23,680 towards just the joy of flowers and plants. 107 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: Exactly well said, And of course in a cottage garden, 108 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,399 I believe that we have to look at the concept, 109 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,240 especially considering the fact that we're packing them in. We've 110 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,879 got to look at the concept of tall, medium, and 111 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,240 short all within a cottage garden. And Stacey, you know 112 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,040 how much I love grasses, and it's in a situation 113 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,439 like this where I would look at using a calamagrosis 114 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:55,600 a carl Forrester type of grass because of the height 115 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,560 that it gives without taking up too much space. 116 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've really hit on an important point 117 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:04,040 as well as the texture that grasses provide. We've talked 118 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:06,319 a lot about how cottage gardens have flowers as a 119 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,319 central element, but texture is equally important, so you should 120 00:07:09,319 --> 00:07:12,639 definitely not exclude things like grasses. And I think grasses 121 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:15,279 can play all sorts of different roles. Sometimes, of course, 122 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:18,240 they can look really contemporary. So if you're looking for 123 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:19,920 more of an old fashioned. Look, you might want to 124 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,720 choose that more carefully, but I would agree that grasses 125 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:25,439 are a very crucial part and that you know, it's 126 00:07:25,639 --> 00:07:29,079 very I have found this myself. It's surprisingly easy to 127 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,600 wind up with a garden of plants that are all 128 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,759 roughly the same size. 129 00:07:32,959 --> 00:07:34,399 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. 130 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of funny to say that. You 131 00:07:37,279 --> 00:07:38,759 don't set out, but you know, you're just like, I 132 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,639 like this plant, I like this planet, like this plant, 133 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,199 and you plant them all up and you're like, wait 134 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,439 a minute, my garden is like exactly five feet tall, 135 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,759 and there's nothing at the you know, at the bases, 136 00:07:47,839 --> 00:07:50,600 the shoes and socks, and there's nothing up above. And 137 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:53,839 so yeah, the really, when you look at cottage gardens, 138 00:07:53,879 --> 00:07:56,920 it's really key to have all of those different sizes 139 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,279 to create those layers. And we've talked about layered gardening 140 00:07:59,360 --> 00:07:59,959 before as well. 141 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: You bet the lawn, of course, is not going to 142 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:06,399 be important in a cottage garden. You're not going to 143 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,639 have time for a lawn. You're going to be busy 144 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:12,439 with other things. And so I want to share with 145 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:18,000 you a never admit there's no more room for plants, Limerick. 146 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,199 I like this, Yes, you know, I think back to 147 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,879 the seventies, the sixties and seventies when the jello people 148 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,160 talked about there's always room for more jelly. Yeah, so 149 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:34,000 I kind of incorporate that into this week's limerick. No 150 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,600 more lawn in my yarden. Don't like it. I beg 151 00:08:37,639 --> 00:08:41,679 your pardon. Keep planting. No stoppage here at my little cottage. 152 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,679 There's always more room in my garden. The garden of 153 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,639 my dreams is one that goes to extremes. It's individualistic. 154 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,360 I find it quite holistic. It's bursting at the seams. 155 00:08:56,039 --> 00:08:59,919 I'm an easy going kind of fellow, not rigid, just 156 00:09:00,159 --> 00:09:04,399 kind of mellow. Gardens of bloom, always more room for 157 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,720 plants and a bowl full of jello. 158 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: You really were inspired. 159 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, if you look at guides online to create 160 00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:18,320 a cottage garden, in many cases they would recommend a 161 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:21,799 curved path. This is where I go off the path 162 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:27,519 a little bit. I personally believe a straight path provides 163 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:34,480 good contrast to the wildness of a cottage garden. So 164 00:09:34,759 --> 00:09:41,360 for me, I like bricks, like maybe recycled bricks in 165 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,360 a pathway straight up to the front door, and then 166 00:09:45,799 --> 00:09:49,320 paint that front door some kind of really funky color, 167 00:09:49,639 --> 00:09:50,440 a bright color. 168 00:09:50,639 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I agree when you have that exuberance 169 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,279 and that you know, just kind of I don't want 170 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:58,200 to say hodgepodge because that sounds like a bad thing, 171 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:03,120 but you know, unrestrained kind of composition, those vertical, those 172 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,039 those strong lines become very very important. You can have 173 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,679 a curved path through your garden, but I do agree 174 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,960 that the kind of the main pathways serve as a 175 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,279 counterpoint by staying straight and offering some organization counterpoint. 176 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: Good word, Let's see what Stacy has in mind in 177 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,120 Plants on Trial as we continue talking about cottage gardens 178 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,039 on today's show, including plants you may want to try 179 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:31,960 that's coming up next here in Plants on Trial and 180 00:10:32,039 --> 00:10:34,080 The Gardening Simplified. 181 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:42,399 Speaker 2: Show, beautify your home and community with proven Winner's Color 182 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,360 Choice Shrubs with over three hundred and twenty five unique 183 00:10:45,399 --> 00:10:48,440 varieties to choose from. There's a flowering shrub or evergreen 184 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:51,279 for every taste and every space. Just look for the 185 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,399 distinctive white container your local garden center or learn more 186 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,759 at proven Winner's Color Choice dot com. Creating's Gardening Friends 187 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:02,919 and welcome back to The Gardening Simplified Show. Where despite 188 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,039 the snow literally at our doorstep here in Studio A, 189 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,759 we're dreaming of a flower filled cottage garden in the summer. 190 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:14,320 Because you know, I think that a lot of people 191 00:11:14,879 --> 00:11:19,320 love the idea of cottage gardens, but they're very intimidated 192 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,039 about trying to start on. Yes, now, I do want 193 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,159 to say, first of all, I don't think that, for 194 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,200 the most part, cottage gardens are as much work as 195 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,159 people think that they will be. You know, I have 196 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,080 a lot of perennials in my garden, and really the 197 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,399 only thing that I do to maintain them is, you know, 198 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,600 cut everything back in spring. I mean, I don't really 199 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,519 do a whole lot otherwise, I don't grow stuff that 200 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,679 needs to be staked. And nowadays, you know, staking is 201 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,559 like that's stuff from thirty years ago. Now there's so 202 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,120 many things that don't need to be staked, So you 203 00:11:49,159 --> 00:11:51,679 don't need to worry about that. You know. Sure, every 204 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,639 couple of years you've got to divide some stuff and 205 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,080 move some stuff around, and but that's you know, that's 206 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,039 part of the fun. Is that's part of how your 207 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,159 garden changes over time. So I don't think that they 208 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,000 are necessarily as much work as people presume that they are. 209 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,440 And we've had these kind of conversations before, how modern 210 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,360 plant breeding has really taken away a lot of the 211 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:17,360 work that people assume gardening requires. You know, plants are 212 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,600 more disease resistant, plants are sturdier and don't usually need 213 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:24,240 staking they're more reliable, they bloom longer. So it's time 214 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,320 that we all kind of rethink, you know, how much 215 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,240 work it actually takes, because we might be harboring some 216 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,159 very antiquated notions of garden maintenance. It just simply don't 217 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,279 necessarily apply today. 218 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,879 Speaker 1: And the beauty Stacey is if you change your mind, 219 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,039 you can move things around. That's part of the fun 220 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,639 of a cottage garden, and you touched on it in 221 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,679 the first segment. Texture is so important, varying types of texture. 222 00:12:50,879 --> 00:12:53,200 So if you step back and you're not quite happy, 223 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,960 you can move things around. 224 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: That's the beauty definitely. Now, if you find yourself a 225 00:12:59,639 --> 00:13:03,639 little bit intimidated by the thought of trying to create 226 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,960 a cottage garden of your own, don't be. I have 227 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,159 a simple solution for you, and that is much like 228 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,240 Rick was saying, you know, go to Pinterest or do 229 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,600 an image search on your favorite search engine for cottage 230 00:13:15,639 --> 00:13:19,399 gardening cottage gardens, and you can put in cottage gardens England. 231 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,559 If you really want to see those kind of archetypes, 232 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,799 of course, you'll find results from all over. And don't 233 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,559 just look at those photos and go, oh, that's pretty, 234 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,679 you know, take the time to actually read what you're 235 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,559 seeing in those images and think about what they show. 236 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:35,759 Speaker 3: You know. 237 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: One thing that you can do is to kind of 238 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,000 sketch take a you know, print it out and take 239 00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:43,840 a piece of sea through paper and kind of sketch 240 00:13:43,879 --> 00:13:45,879 it out, and you'll start to see the elements. You'll 241 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:48,759 start to actually think about the elements then, rather than 242 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:50,879 just seeing it as like a whole bunch of plants. 243 00:13:51,639 --> 00:13:53,559 And when you do that, I think you really start 244 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,679 to understand that the things that are making that particular 245 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,399 garden successful for you you are easy to replicate. You 246 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,600 just kind of need to break it down into elements 247 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:09,240 that you can digest and translate into your own garden. 248 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: Kind of like a bubble drum, yeah, like a bubble drum. 249 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:12,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 250 00:14:12,919 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: But I do agree with you Rick that the key 251 00:14:14,799 --> 00:14:17,960 to a successful cottage garden is height. And as we said, 252 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:23,120 it is surprisingly easy to accidentally end up with a garden. 253 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,240 It's almost all the same height. I don't This is 254 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,480 a very strange phenomenon, but it is surprisingly easy. And 255 00:14:29,559 --> 00:14:31,960 when you're looking through these images, what you are going 256 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,840 to find is that the cottage, the best cottage gardens, 257 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,360 the most effective cottage gardens have some element of height. 258 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,200 Now that doesn't necessarily mean tall plants. It often does, 259 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,000 but it can also mean things like a rose trained 260 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,799 onto your house. It can mean a vine trained on 261 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,120 to say, a porch post, or a trellis or obelisk 262 00:14:53,639 --> 00:14:59,399 out in your garden, or a topiary, large shrubs, tall perennials. 263 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:02,440 There's a lot of different ways to accomplish this, but 264 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,279 there does need to be an element of height so 265 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,440 that you're getting that sort of just you know, curtain 266 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,360 of flowers effect. 267 00:15:10,639 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that, Stacey, because I want a 268 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,240 trellis or an arbor in my cottage garden. 269 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: You already have one, I know, but. 270 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,679 Speaker 1: I'm saying that's what I want in a cottage garden. 271 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: And what are you going to plant on it? 272 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:28,679 Speaker 1: Roses and hyacinth being vine okay, yeah, love it, and 273 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:30,279 probably a clematis. 274 00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: Oh, I love it. 275 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: Such great choices, you know what you're talking about with 276 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:37,399 this cottage garden stuff. But of course, so instead of 277 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,240 our regular plants on trial, where I just tell you 278 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,600 about one of the three hundred and fifty plus proven 279 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,200 Winter's Color Choice shrubs, I'm going to go over a 280 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:48,039 couple of topics that we have in our line that 281 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,879 are perfect for a cottage garden look. So, you know, 282 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:52,639 I also want to remind our listeners as we have 283 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,679 this conversation that a cottage garden is a journey and 284 00:15:56,799 --> 00:16:00,279 not a destination. You know, yes, you can absolutely spend 285 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,919 this spring digging things up and going to the garden 286 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,120 center and spending tons of money and coming home and 287 00:16:05,159 --> 00:16:07,360 planting a cottage garden, but it's always going to be 288 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:09,679 a work in progress. You're going to find gardening friends, 289 00:16:09,679 --> 00:16:12,360 you're going to trade plants. But these are the kinds 290 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,039 of elements that you're gonna want to consider, especially for height, 291 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,360 because those are either going to be more permanent in 292 00:16:17,399 --> 00:16:19,759 the form of a you know, large shrub or a 293 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:22,399 small tree, or you know, maybe a little bit more 294 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:24,919 expensive if you're investing in a pergola or obelisk or 295 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,960 trellis or something along those lines. So, of course, as 296 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,519 you've already said, my first choice is roses. If there's 297 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:34,480 one plant that people associate with cottage gardens, it is 298 00:16:34,559 --> 00:16:35,759 absolutely roses. 299 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 300 00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: And you know, the funny thing is that, you know, 301 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,720 talking about the history of cottage gardens and how far 302 00:16:41,799 --> 00:16:45,159 back in time that they go, and now we have 303 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,759 this idea of them just being this like flower festival. 304 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:51,399 You know, the roses that people were growing for the 305 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,679 majority of history were you know, I mean forgive the expression, 306 00:16:55,679 --> 00:16:59,159 but they were absolute dogs. They did not do anything. 307 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:03,840 You know, they they flowered beautifully for like a week 308 00:17:04,279 --> 00:17:07,400 in June, and the rest of the time the foliage 309 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,759 was all curled up and diseased, and you know, the 310 00:17:10,799 --> 00:17:14,599 plant wasn't flowering and it got black spot and like 311 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:15,880 that's not romantic. 312 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 3: Oh, like that kind of. 313 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: Is one of those things like, yeah, if you happen 314 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,599 to catch it on the exact day, you're going to 315 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,559 be amazed, But outside of it, you're going to be like, 316 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:27,839 what are you doing? But today's roses again, because there 317 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:31,759 has been this shift and this concerted effort into breeding 318 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,000 roses that are high performance, that bloom all summer without 319 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,079 dead heading, that resist diseases. You can really use roses 320 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,400 to take your cottage garden well over the top of 321 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,799 anything that has been done in the past, so great 322 00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:49,559 secret weapon there. Of course, within the proven Winter's Color 323 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,680 Choice roses, we have a lot of different roses. My 324 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:54,720 top picks are going to be the Rise Up series, 325 00:17:54,759 --> 00:17:58,680 which is our series of climbing roses. There are I 326 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,039 think four or five varieties in that series right now. 327 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,079 All have long, flexible stems so you can frame them 328 00:18:04,599 --> 00:18:06,920 up your walls, up a pergola however you want to 329 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,160 do that. Rise Up Lilac Days is just so magical. 330 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:14,839 It has everything you would want in a cottage garden, 331 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,279 unique color, amazing fragrance, big huge flowers with lots and 332 00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:21,279 lots of petals. So all of the rise ups are great, 333 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:23,640 but Rise Up Liloc Days is definitely a must have 334 00:18:23,759 --> 00:18:25,759 for me. And then, of course, as you mentioned, the 335 00:18:25,799 --> 00:18:29,559 Reminiscent series, and the Reminiscent Series is a series of 336 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,119 roses that come to us from Serbia that are really 337 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,440 those big, full, old fashioned fragrant roses, but modern day performance, 338 00:18:37,519 --> 00:18:40,759 so they're blooming all summer without dead heading, no disease. 339 00:18:41,839 --> 00:18:44,880 So again it's kind of rethinking how much work a 340 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:50,160 cottage garden actually is absolutely my second choice. Climatis another 341 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,240 great choice. I mean, Clematists do so beautifully in England. 342 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,319 England has the perfect gardening climate for so many reasons. 343 00:18:56,319 --> 00:18:59,799 It's never too hot, it's never too cold, they have 344 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:04,079 reliable rainfall. I mean, it's like a dream place. 345 00:19:03,799 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: To go Goldilocks plant. 346 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure that we have listeners in the UK right 347 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:08,759 now who are like, yeah, right, let me tell you 348 00:19:08,839 --> 00:19:11,039 about some of the garden and nightmares that I have. 349 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,000 But it seems like that to us over here. And 350 00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:17,400 Clementists do so well. A lot of people think of 351 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,559 them as perennials, but many are woody plants, and the 352 00:19:20,599 --> 00:19:22,680 ones that we have in proven Winter's Colored Choice are 353 00:19:22,759 --> 00:19:26,079 of course woody plants so versatile. If you have an 354 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,480 ugly fence that you have to include in your cottage garden, 355 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,119 they are a great way to camouflage that you can 356 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,640 also again add a trellis or whatever you'd like. My 357 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,079 top picks in our Clemenis are going to be a 358 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,319 sweet summer love Clematis because it's a perfect scale, you know, 359 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,480 having those small flowers all over the place, and they're 360 00:19:43,519 --> 00:19:46,319 so fragrant in the summer, so that is a great choice. 361 00:19:46,599 --> 00:19:50,039 My other choice is pink mink clematis. This is a 362 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,920 very large, vigorous clematist that is perfect for covering fences 363 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,599 or other large structures. And I pick pink mink not 364 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,920 just because the color is such a classic card cottage 365 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:03,599 garden color, but because the flowers are almost bell like 366 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,920 and they come out on these little stems from the 367 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,960 wall of vines that I think is just the perfect 368 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,440 cottage garden look. I had a long list, but we're 369 00:20:12,519 --> 00:20:13,880 running out of time, so I'm going to leave you 370 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,559 with the third and maybe we can talk about a 371 00:20:15,599 --> 00:20:18,000 couple of the other ones in segment before, because I 372 00:20:18,079 --> 00:20:20,200 do have something important to say that I'll have to save. 373 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:22,880 But my number three choice butterfly bush. 374 00:20:23,279 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 375 00:20:24,759 --> 00:20:27,279 Speaker 2: So part of the reasons that I'm picking butterfly bush 376 00:20:27,599 --> 00:20:32,240 is because they have that delightful spiky texture and that 377 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,519 is just going to introduce such a unique look into 378 00:20:35,559 --> 00:20:39,200 a cottage garden that can't really be replicated with a 379 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,319 lot of other plants, you know, with those spiky flowers 380 00:20:42,319 --> 00:20:45,519 coming out all over. My choice for butterfly bush is 381 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:48,400 going to be the miss series A couple of reasons 382 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,720 for that perfect height, So four to five feet tall 383 00:20:50,759 --> 00:20:53,519 and wide, so you're getting that nice height element. The 384 00:20:53,559 --> 00:20:57,160 colors are amazing, the best colors you're going to find 385 00:20:57,279 --> 00:20:58,480 in a butterfly bush. 386 00:20:58,599 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 3: They're fragrant, they blew. 387 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:02,559 Speaker 2: All summer without any kind of dead heading or trimming, 388 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,559 and they are non invasive. They don't set seeds, so 389 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:08,519 you don't have to worry about them spreading if you 390 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:12,440 live in an area where butterfly bush can get weedy. 391 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:16,039 Speaker 1: Great choice, stacy, and half the fun in doing a 392 00:21:16,079 --> 00:21:20,759 cottage garden is attracting pollinators. Well you're doing that absolutely, 393 00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:24,200 butterfly bush. And yes, in segment four, let's go down 394 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:24,920 the list of plants. 395 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,039 Speaker 2: All right, we'll finish it up then, but first we're 396 00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:29,400 gonna get to the garden mail bags, So please stay 397 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:39,640 tuned at proven winners color choice shrubs. We know that 398 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,759 a better landscape starts with a better shrub. Our team 399 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:45,960 of experts tests and evaluates all of our flowering shrubs 400 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,799 in evergreens for eight to ten years to ensure they 401 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:53,319 outperform what's already on the market for easycare, reliable, beautiful 402 00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:56,599 shrubs to accentuate your home and express your personal style. 403 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,440 Look for Proven Winners shrubs in the distinctive white container 404 00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:02,400 at your Life Garden Center or learn more at Proven Winners, 405 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:08,039 color Choice dot com. Creating's gardening friends and welcome back 406 00:22:08,079 --> 00:22:11,039 to the Gardening Simplified Show, where it is our opportunity 407 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:14,799 to help you with your garden questions, quandaries and conundrums 408 00:22:14,839 --> 00:22:18,000 and celebrations of course, because you know, we love to 409 00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:20,319 hear the successes that you're having as well as what 410 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,559 you're struggling with, because it's all part of gardening, and 411 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,039 you know, we all have each other to do celebrate 412 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:28,880 our gardening successes with, but you may not, and even 413 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,319 if you do well, maybe you just want to get 414 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,920 them out to a bigger audience. So we welcome you 415 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,680 to reach out to us anytime you would like at 416 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,680 Gardening Simplified on air dot com. Another great great way 417 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,079 to reach us is on our YouTube version of the show. 418 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,279 So if you aren't familiar, if you're listening to us 419 00:22:45,319 --> 00:22:47,839 on radio or podcast every week, there is a YouTube 420 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,079 edition which is not just two people sitting in studio 421 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,039 a talking about plants. No, Adriana, our amazing producer, puts 422 00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:58,720 in all sorts of great b roll and images that 423 00:22:58,799 --> 00:22:59,880 keeps it really interesting. 424 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: So I'm glad you brought that up because Adriana does 425 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,440 an amazing job. And I'm not saying that just because 426 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,440 she's sitting across from us right now, because it makes 427 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,960 that YouTube video so enjoyable to see what we're talking about. 428 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 2: And then you can leave a comment there, and when 429 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,400 she's looking at him, she'll say, Hey, someone has a 430 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,200 great comment on YouTube, like this person who left to 431 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,599 comment on last week's episode that I wanted to share 432 00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:30,599 with everybody because we really liked this one. She says, 433 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,039 thank you for another fun show. I made my now 434 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,759 husband a terrarium for Christmas because we were talking about 435 00:23:35,799 --> 00:23:38,799 terrariums last week. I made my now husband a terrarium 436 00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:41,440 for Christmas when we were simply friends, and he said 437 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,599 it was the most unique, impressive and creative gift he'd 438 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,680 ever gotten from anyone. 439 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: So you hear that. 440 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: Forget that merry meat chicken recipe that's on the internet. 441 00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:54,680 You just make the person you're after a terrarium and 442 00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:58,079 your wishes will come true. That's great, she says. We 443 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,319 started coorting shortly thereafter. See, I told you, and now 444 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,039 we've been married for ten years, I'm going to say 445 00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:06,880 that terrarium helped me stand out from the crowd. The 446 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,000 funny part is that after we married and we were 447 00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:11,000 moving all of his things into our new house, I 448 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,359 found the terrarium in his room, mostly but not all dead. 449 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,559 I was mortified and joked that it had better not 450 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:21,119 be a bad omen. And it hasn't been so far. 451 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: What a great story. 452 00:24:24,039 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: You know, Now that we're about to have Valentine's Day, 453 00:24:28,039 --> 00:24:30,640 which you know, I know is a polarizing holiday, but 454 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,759 it is a plant holiday. It's a holiday that's closely 455 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:36,960 associated with all sorts of plants, and it's a great 456 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,440 opportunity to get yourself or someone you love a fabulous 457 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,759 new plant, or if you really want to go over 458 00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:47,160 the top, like our YouTube viewer did, make them a terrarium. 459 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,880 So you got time to do it. So start thinking 460 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,839 about that right now. Look around your house for some 461 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,200 interesting vessels that you can use or go thrifting, and 462 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,079 maybe you'll find one of those fabulous like giant seventies 463 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,160 terrarium bottles. There's so many opportunities. 464 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: Wait till you hear my slant on this next week. 465 00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 3: Oh I can't wait. 466 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: But I'll bet it's going to be based on many 467 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:10,400 years in the gardens industry. 468 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 3: All right, what else we got in the bailbank? 469 00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: Meredith asks, thank you for your sage wisdom. I live 470 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,480 in Zone five Eastern Ontario clay loam soil with a 471 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:24,039 sizable creek in my front yard. Each spring the creek 472 00:25:24,079 --> 00:25:27,319 gets high run off. There's minor erosion each year. I 473 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:32,039 want to keep any erosion minimized through planting. I've heard 474 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,519 certain trees take up too much water, which makes me 475 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,440 reluctant to plant them, and my climate can be at 476 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,440 risk of summer drought. How much do trees affect moisture 477 00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:45,599 retention in the soil? 478 00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so complicated question, but a very good one. So 479 00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:54,519 I would say yes, trees substantially impact moisture in the soil, 480 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,000 and sometimes that can be a good thing, like in 481 00:25:57,039 --> 00:26:00,720 the case of say a flood zone, something like a 482 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:04,160 river birch or a willow. Can you know they're capable 483 00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:07,240 of absorbing so much water that they can help minimize 484 00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:11,680 you know, bogginess or low spots in your not low spots, 485 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,519 but you know, moisture excess water in your yard. But 486 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,440 that's not something you might want around a creek because 487 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,640 it could you know, take water from the creek. And yes, 488 00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:25,480 trees are not just very high users of water, but 489 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,960 they are very effective competitors because of course they have 490 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,680 a massive root system compared to most anything else. So 491 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,240 it is something that you need to be aware of. 492 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,440 But I would also say that trees you can't just 493 00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:41,440 kind of generalize about their seeking of water. Of course, 494 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,599 some trees are notorious silver maples for example, just notorious 495 00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:49,039 for going into sewers because they seek water. Well, there's 496 00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:50,960 plenty of other plants that just don't do that. They 497 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:55,359 just don't have that you know, natural desire or whatever 498 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,799 to actually go out aggressively to seek water. 499 00:26:58,079 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think I would steer away from trees. 500 00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:05,279 But on the erosion issue, go with something that's more herbaceous. 501 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,000 Look at grasses, that sort of thing, you know, grasses again, 502 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,559 ornamental grasses. They can survive quite well switch grass in 503 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,599 both wet and drought conditions, and so it's going to 504 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,079 be able to handle that variable condition of the soil. 505 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,880 And by the way, trees draw a ton of water 506 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,000 out of the soil. I have a neighbor who had 507 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,759 a large a couple of large shade trees in her 508 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:39,000 front yard was unable to grow grass and was bemoaning 509 00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:42,720 the shade of those trees. I'm like, no, it's the roots. 510 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:45,960 And I shared an article you can look it up 511 00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:50,279 on the internet about how many gallons of water are 512 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,599 pulled out of the ground on a daily basis by 513 00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:56,000 a seventy five foot tree. It's staggering. 514 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, definitely. 515 00:27:57,319 --> 00:27:58,839 Speaker 2: Now they give it back, of course in the form 516 00:27:58,839 --> 00:28:01,680 of transpiration, but yes, they will. Now I agree with 517 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,039 you one hundred percent, Rick, If you are trying to 518 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,160 minimize erosion, especially erosion from water, yes, that is like 519 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,440 a creek or something like that. Trees are effective at 520 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,839 stopping erosion for water that goes over the surface, but 521 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,519 they are not very effective at stopping erosion on any 522 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,319 kind of banks, embankments, anything like that that are kind 523 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:26,480 of going on either side of the creek because their 524 00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:29,160 roots are you know, big and thick and not very stable. 525 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,519 They're they're stabilizing for the tree, but you know, they 526 00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:35,000 can easily allow water to get in and around them, 527 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,440 and they make you know, kind of like what you've 528 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,839 seen in the mangroves. But they're not mangroves. But yes, grasses, 529 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,000 herbaceous plants, anything with a long, deep, fibrous root system 530 00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:49,319 is the best choice for kind of stabilizing that bank. 531 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,119 So yeah, grasses are an excellent choice at Daylilies even 532 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,160 are a great choice. And I would just say to 533 00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:59,359 Meredith or to anyone else out there. You know, Meredith 534 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,839 is in Canada, but here in the US, very often 535 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:07,440 natural resources departments of the various states or that whatever 536 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,960 it's called in your state, will often offer plants at 537 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,839 a very low cost to homewners trying to prevent erosion. 538 00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:16,000 So before you go out there and spend a bunch 539 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,039 of money at the garden center, especially in spring, they 540 00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:21,200 tend to do these things. Do you call around, ask, 541 00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:23,720 look online and see if they have any kind of 542 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:27,079 low cost or even free plans to offer you for 543 00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:29,160 just these kinds of situations. 544 00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:33,559 Speaker 1: And I'll share some pictures for YouTube of erosion here 545 00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:36,559 on the Lake shore when that occurred in twenty twenty, 546 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,799 twenty twenty one, the trees didn't stand up to it 547 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,519 too well. Stay see in some wild pictures of trees 548 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,839 giving up as it relates to erosion. So that's kind 549 00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:50,359 of how I feel about it all right, Jillian writes 550 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,920 to us, Hello, I love listening to your show, and 551 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,599 while I'm out working in the garden or just dreaming 552 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,799 and planning and winter, I'm with you, Jillian. I planted 553 00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:04,200 this Elizabeth magnolia two years ago. It's settled quite a bit. 554 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,880 With our recent snow melts, water is pooling around the 555 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,880 base of the trunk. Is it likely to die if 556 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,160 I don't dig it up and plant it a little higher. 557 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,039 Any suggestions on how to address it without shocking the 558 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,359 tree too badly? 559 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is kind of a tough situation. Jillian did 560 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,680 send pictures. I don't think it's it's certainly not the 561 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,000 worst that I've ever seen, but you never really want 562 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:29,720 to encourage water to sit around the base of any plant. 563 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:31,920 Some plants are far more sensitive to it than others, 564 00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:35,480 but it's never really a good thing. I would also 565 00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:39,680 say a two year old magnolia probably not also a 566 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,559 great idea to go ahead and dig that up. Magnolia 567 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,160 roots are pretty sensitive, so I wouldn't necessarily recommend digging 568 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,839 it up, although it depends on what size you started with. 569 00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:50,720 If you started with a small bear root one, you 570 00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:54,240 could consider lifting it there will be some root loss, 571 00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:57,559 but not that big of a deal. I would ask you, Jillian, 572 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,079 is it possible, actually instead to kind of work the 573 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,200 grade around the planting site so that instead of going 574 00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:09,079 towards the base of the tree, can you take away 575 00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:12,680 some soil or mulch or you know, whatever the situation is, 576 00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:15,720 and kind of use that to grade away from the 577 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:18,359 tree instead. I mean, it's hard to say, because there's 578 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,799 you know, but I would I would look at possibly 579 00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:23,400 doing that if you can do that in a way 580 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,240 that doesn't significantly expose any roots that the plant has 581 00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:27,079 already created. 582 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,079 Speaker 1: Grade is important. But I think the key here is 583 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,119 Jillian is saying snow melt. I'm thinking that this excessive 584 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,000 moisture is temporary. If that's the case, I think the 585 00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:40,000 tree can stand up. 586 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:40,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. 587 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: I mean, magnolias are not certainly one of the most 588 00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:45,920 sensitive to moist soils, and as long as it's well 589 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,200 drained and doesn't sit around for you know, weeks on end, 590 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,000 which of course it will in winter because very often 591 00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:53,440 the ground is frozen and the water can't drain down. 592 00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:56,400 But you know, if in like your summer rainstorms and 593 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,319 so forth, if the water collects and then drains away. 594 00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,319 That's not really anything to be concerned about. So yeah, 595 00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:04,519 I think that you do have a year to kind 596 00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:07,640 of spend watching it and evaluating whether you're going to 597 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,039 do something, But you know, also look around at other 598 00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:12,759 things that you might be able to change, whether it's 599 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,519 the direction of a downspout on your house you know 600 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:18,640 where that's training to, or other factors and see if 601 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,839 that gives you an opportunity to maybe do a less 602 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,559 invasive remediation here for your plant. We're going to take 603 00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:27,160 a little break and when we come back, we are 604 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,000 continuing our talk on cottage gardens, so please stay tuned. 605 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,440 Thanks for listening to the Gardening Simplified Podcast, brought to 606 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,480 you by Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs. Our award winning 607 00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:45,559 flowering shrubs and evergreens are trialed and tested by experts 608 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:48,759 with your success in mind. Learn more at Proven winnerscolor 609 00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:51,400 Choice dot com. 610 00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show as we dig 611 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,960 in deeper on a fabulous topic, cottage gardens and Stacy 612 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:03,279 I like to use birdscape components that have a regional 613 00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:07,960 flavor in a cottage garden, So wherever you live in 614 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,200 the US, you don't have to live on Cape Cod 615 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,519 or the Northeast. In the Northeast to have a cottage garden. 616 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,279 You can have a cottage garden pretty much anywhere you want, 617 00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:21,680 but try and add a little bit of regional flavor, 618 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,000 maybe a bird bath or a bench. We talked about 619 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:29,680 structures like pergolas or arbors. Of course, I like iron 620 00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:33,880 in the landscape because of the rusting issue. As a 621 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,799 matter of fact, I was looking at some of the 622 00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:39,119 new pottery coming out this year and they have limestone 623 00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:44,880 and cement with rust color. I love that. I'll work 624 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,599 that into my cottage garden. I have a neighbor who's 625 00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:53,119 very much into this, and he is constantly finding stuff 626 00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:57,359 on Facebook, Marketplace or Craig's List or whatever and giving 627 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,599 it a try or giving it away. Of course I 628 00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:04,279 use driftwood because I'm near the beach. But whatever you do, 629 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,559 the key element is plants, but a little bit of hardscape. 630 00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:13,679 And again I love recycled bricks as a pathway in 631 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,519 a cottage garden. Okay, let's get to the plants. Old 632 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:23,519 fashioned plants in New easy to care for cultivars. And 633 00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:27,239 you touched on that Stacey in Plants on trial. I 634 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,679 look at old fashioned plant like lilacs, look at the 635 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,400 cultivars we have today. 636 00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: To use, yeah, and look how disease resistant they are, 637 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,360 because you know, as fabulous as an old lilac is, 638 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,440 and they are wonderful, and you know, you can even 639 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,840 forgive them for just having that sort of brief moment. 640 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,159 The classic old lilacs, they are susceptible to powdery mildew, 641 00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:53,800 and in a densely planted situation like most cottage gardens, 642 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,440 they're going to be even more susceptible to powdery mildews. 643 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,000 So it really does even though you're kind of going 644 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,159 for this charming old f should look, it really does 645 00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:03,480 make sense to do your research and make sure that 646 00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:08,280 you're selecting cultivars that are not going to have the 647 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,360 problems that come with the old fashion glance. 648 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: You had mentioned Butterfly Bush, but Rose of Sharon, something 649 00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:19,599 like Polly Petite Spyria, any of the double play cultivars 650 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,639 for me, Stacy, because I love roses in a cottage 651 00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:27,719 garden so much, I'm going to say that Woudjila has 652 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,320 to be part of it too. And I love Sonic Bloom. 653 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,559 I don't know, I've just fallen in love with that plan. 654 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: Well, you know, Sonic Bloom would be a great choice 655 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,880 for a cottage garden because it is a reblooming white gela. 656 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,800 So you're going to get all of those flowers in 657 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,920 late spring, just like you would a regular white gela. 658 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,280 But then it's going to take a little break and 659 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,840 come back and continue to flower. And again, having that 660 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,440 constant supply of tons and tons of flowers is so 661 00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:54,960 key to the success of a cottage garden. To remember, 662 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,559 when you look at those fabulous photos of a cottage 663 00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,960 garden and you think I want that, you're still only 664 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:03,280 seeing one moment of time. So you know, for yourself, 665 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,519 you really need to make sure that you're choosing plants 666 00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:07,599 that are going to give you maximum flowerings so that 667 00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:10,119 it looks good and cottagy the most. 668 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: I agree with that one hundred percent, and I'm glad 669 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,599 you brought that up, Stacy, because I was also going 670 00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:19,320 to say, make sure to look at all the seasons spring, summer, 671 00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:24,199 and fall. For example, it's classic in my mind to 672 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,760 use tulips in a cottage garden, but of course you're 673 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,559 just going to get temporary color. So if we fast 674 00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:36,320 forward to fall, plants like asters, or chrysanthemum or the 675 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:41,880 fall blooming windflower anemones, all of those ideal to add. 676 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, carry after us too, you. 677 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:49,679 Speaker 1: Bet Alium's tuscan sun Heliopsis would be a great choice. 678 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,519 And a few weeks ago when we did the perennial show, 679 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,239 Stacey Rudebecia the Treasured trove black eyed Susan's can you 680 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,320 see that in a cottage? 681 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I think that'd be perfect in a cottage guard. 682 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,239 And if it could use some yellow, how. 683 00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: About smooth hydranges or hydranges? How do you feel about 684 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,119 hydranges in a kindergric? 685 00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 2: I was just gonna ask you the same thing, Aha, 686 00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:13,840 great minds like so, I do think that hydrangs are 687 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,320 a great choice, and hydrangeas are the one choice that 688 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,360 I didn't get to in Plants on Trial, So I'm 689 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,599 glad you brought it up. And I think that all 690 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,360 hydrangs very much work in a cottage garden, and you know, 691 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,880 so then I was starting to think, well, if all 692 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,679 hydranges work really well in a cottage garden to add 693 00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:34,039 height and color, pollinators and all of that, then how 694 00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:36,840 do you choose? And that's when I really realized and 695 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,920 as much as I talk about hydrangs, you'd think that 696 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,519 I kind of would have internalized this at some point. 697 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,679 The cool thing about including hydrange is in a flower 698 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,440 garden or a cottage garden is that you can pick 699 00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:52,599 based on which flower shape your garden needs. You know, 700 00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:55,679 you can have the big round globes of a hydrange 701 00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:59,280 of mac if what you need is more big round robustness. 702 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,239 You can and have the spiky ice cream cones of 703 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,679 oak leaf hydrangeas or panicle hydrangeas if what you need 704 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,400 is more of that, you know, spikey kind of look 705 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,679 going all over. You can also do smooth hydrangees if 706 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,280 you want rounded flower heads, so you could do something 707 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,800 like incredible but smooth hydrangeas and big leaf hydrangees, to 708 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,760 a lesser extent also have a little bit more range 709 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,760 of their flower shape, and something like invincibel lay smooth 710 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:31,400 Hydrangea or Invincibelle sublime. Those flower heads are much more flat, 711 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:34,480 so they're almost like these really cool kind of vertical lines, 712 00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:37,480 and they have a very different look in the landscape. 713 00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:41,000 So as you are building your cottage garden and watching 714 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,480 all of these things come together, don't just think of hydrangels, 715 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,079 saying like, oh, I love Hydrange's. I want to add, 716 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,239 of course you can do that, and that's a great choice, 717 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,840 but you know, also think about choosing a hydrangea based 718 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:57,239 on which kind of you know, textural or spatial element 719 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,000 its flowers really contribute, so you do get that. 720 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:03,519 Speaker 3: You know, wild varied. Look. 721 00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:07,199 Speaker 2: You know, for me gardening with natives, my garden tends 722 00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:10,159 to favor a lot of asta asi, you know, regular 723 00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:13,159 plants in the daisy family, so you know, my Sylphium 724 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,599 and Cooreopsis and a lot of those native astor asi, 725 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,280 So I end up with a lot of the same 726 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,719 kind of flower form. And really, again as you kind 727 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,599 of digest those photos and separate out the elements, you're 728 00:39:24,639 --> 00:39:28,599 going to see success is a lot of variety in 729 00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:31,079 the flower shape, not just the flower color in time. 730 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: I like that a lot. That's great advice. I was 731 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:40,400 thinking smooth hydrangea like incredible storm proof something like that. 732 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,280 But the reason I feel that way, Stacey, is because 733 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,239 again I love the gardens on the East coast or 734 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,920 you get in the Cape Cod area. So my cottage garden, 735 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,079 I'm going to be really inclined to put a white 736 00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:57,840 picket fence in there. I can't help it. Maybe it's 737 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,880 cliche or class I think a. 738 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,679 Speaker 2: White picket fence is one of the or any fence, really, 739 00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:08,360 any small fence is one of the easiest ways to 740 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,960 help you digest planting your garden. You put in a 741 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,159 fence there, You've got two sides, and now you can 742 00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:18,199 take two different approaches to either side of that fence. 743 00:40:18,599 --> 00:40:21,960 So it's really easy. It adds structure without being you know, 744 00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:24,400 really overt. So I say go for it. 745 00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: Oh, I like that. That's kind of a grass is 746 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,360 greener on the other side of the fence analogy. I 747 00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:33,079 like that. I'm going to throw out a few quick 748 00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:36,719 plants that that has to be in my cottage garden 749 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:42,239 Verbina benariensis. Maybe not the new cultivar meteor shower which 750 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,559 doesn't create much seed, but maybe the old fashion that 751 00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:52,719 recedes itself, like crazy leucanthemum or shasta daisies like amazing daisies, 752 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,920 banana cream. Love that plant. My cottage garden has to 753 00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:02,480 have lavender in it, sweet romance, although my choice would 754 00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:03,280 be phenomenal. 755 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I agree completely. 756 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,679 Speaker 2: Lavender to me is second to roses, as they must 757 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,800 have in a cottage garden. Maybe this again just goes 758 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,920 back to the English garden type of thing. But roses 759 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,800 and lavender, I would say, you know those are are 760 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,599 you don't have to have them, And certainly I consider 761 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,679 my garden cottagy and I don't have roses because I 762 00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:23,480 have deer, but I do have plenty of lavender. 763 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: Annual salvia has got to be in mine. Rock and fusia, 764 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:35,079 blue suede shoes, hanging baskets with super beenas, maybe some 765 00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:39,960 Superbinas and Biden's and some bubblegums, supertunias to give you 766 00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:45,280 that great pink color. Menarda. I love Manarda in a 767 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:51,039 cottage garden and the pardon My series of proven winners Manarda. 768 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,519 I've used that in my landscape years ago. When I 769 00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:58,880 started landscaping, I gave up on Manardas because the powdery 770 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,440 mildew and they just were awful. The new cultivars incredible, 771 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,920 and so I think that they're a great choice for 772 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:07,519 your cottage. 773 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Pardon My Series is such a beautiful color. And 774 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,519 you know that's one of the best parts about cottage 775 00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:16,960 gardening is that you're just free to experiment with the colors. 776 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,679 And if you put in something you love and you find, hey, 777 00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:21,079 that's just sticking out like a sore thumb. 778 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 3: I don't like it. 779 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 2: As you said, you can always move it. And you know, 780 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,280 as we're kind of wrapping up here, I did want 781 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,800 to say another really important thing about cottage gardening. You 782 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,599 said you don't have to live on the East Coast. 783 00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:33,639 You also don't have to have a cottage. You can 784 00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:35,119 do it in any house that you want. 785 00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:39,599 Speaker 1: Very true. Good point, and to put an exclamation point 786 00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:43,639 on that. Make sure to include some edibles because herbs 787 00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:47,119 are going to be super important too. Creeping time, that 788 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:52,119 sort of thing. I could talk about cottage gardens for hours. 789 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,440 I could too, Stacy, you can't go. All the plants 790 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,280 are gonna die, but we gotta go. 791 00:42:59,480 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 3: We gotta go. 792 00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:04,559 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for watching on YouTube or listening to 793 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,039 our podcast or radio show version. Thank you, Stacey, thank 794 00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:12,159 you Rick, thank you Adriana, and thank you for supporting 795 00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:14,760 the Gardening Simplified Show. Have a great week.