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<v Speaker 1>Bill cunning in the Great America. Welcome to Thursday. Afternuning,

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<v Speaker 1>the tri State snow is falling. By the weekend, things

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<v Speaker 1>should calm down, is there prices everywhere? Three thousand personnel

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<v Speaker 1>are on the streets clearing the roads in the bridges,

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<v Speaker 1>except for four seventy one, which is a completely different issue,

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<v Speaker 1>and we may get into that with Chris Finny a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, because according to knowledgeable sources, that was put

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<v Speaker 1>there by shall we say, well intended recreational officials in

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<v Speaker 1>the City of Cincinnati more or less approved quietly by

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<v Speaker 1>O DOT. And now they have to update their list

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<v Speaker 1>of things not to put on their I four seventy

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<v Speaker 1>one any other interstate. We got to update the list

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<v Speaker 1>of their partner. But until then, Chris Finnie a great

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<v Speaker 1>attorney locally. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, before we talk about Bucks County in

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<v Speaker 1>Stansbury Park, we've been pursuing for a while this four

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<v Speaker 1>to seventy one situation, which is a catastrophe by any

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<v Speaker 1>fair measurement. Fortunately, I don't think you live in northern Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you do, to try to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth across the river. It's almost impossible, do you see.

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<v Speaker 1>And when recreation officials put it there, they contacted ODOT

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<v Speaker 1>in Lebanon to say, what do you think about this?

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<v Speaker 1>And the ODAT official went over the list of things

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<v Speaker 1>not to put under a bridge, and a large placeset

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<v Speaker 1>was not included, and so they say, well, the placet

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<v Speaker 1>would be a good idea. It's plastic, recycled plastic. It's

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<v Speaker 1>on three inches of rubber, which is about one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>feet by two hundred feet, so if kids fall down,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't hurt a knee. And at this point they're

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<v Speaker 1>going hummahammahammahamma. Is there any do you perceive of any

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<v Speaker 1>liability of anyone like a tony bender that spends two

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<v Speaker 1>hours every day trying to get back and forth across

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<v Speaker 1>the river as more or less a planet's lawyer and

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<v Speaker 1>a great planiniffs attorney. Can you think of some liability

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<v Speaker 1>that the city of the state might have for those

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<v Speaker 1>millions of men and woman hours that are being wasted

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in traffic all day?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, we've definitely had some mouthfeasance on somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>part to allow this to happen. But as you're aware, Willy.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a print called sovereign immunity that protects governmententities and

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<v Speaker 2>performing their governmental functions. It's very difficult to maintain a

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<v Speaker 2>cause of action. So I think this is one that

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<v Speaker 2>the taxpayers, which is probably the beds and the state

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Transportation, are going to have to eat. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's a mass, I mean, what's it a I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>heard the estimates, but I'm guessing just without the economic impact,

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<v Speaker 2>the physical repairs of that bridge would be half a

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars or something to get it repaired.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. The other part of this is they haven't started

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<v Speaker 1>the repair process yet. They're still they're still analyzing what

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And these beams that are ninety feet long

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<v Speaker 1>four feet wide that are like housing the structure have

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<v Speaker 1>to be configured and created and manufactured probably in China.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, we're talking. They're not talking weeks anymore. They're

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<v Speaker 1>talking months. We're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I have my new office downtown Willie, and

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<v Speaker 2>the primary means of transportation. I live in Anderson up

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<v Speaker 2>by the old Tony exit what used to be Old

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<v Speaker 2>Coney and that's a primary way for me to get

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<v Speaker 2>home and back. And you can't get there that way

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<v Speaker 2>anymore going home. And then I have a young attorney

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<v Speaker 2>who lives in Newport, and it's comical as to how

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<v Speaker 2>difficult it is to get from downtown Cincinnati or north

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<v Speaker 2>on seventy one to Campbell County. It is an absolute

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<v Speaker 2>disaster of tremendous you know. So then you have the

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<v Speaker 2>economic impact of all this from one you know, arrant

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<v Speaker 2>decision of what to put under the bridge and one

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<v Speaker 2>homeless guy set in the fire. It's unbelievable how much

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<v Speaker 2>damage was caused by that one set of decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Chris Finnis shows how fragile things are. On

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<v Speaker 1>a second matter, I'm watching yesterday, there's a Bucks County,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a suburban county outside of Philadelphia, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess in Pennsylvania, I'm liked in the state of Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>they elect by county election officials, and so we can

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<v Speaker 1>only imagine the left wing politics available in Pittsburgh, Alleghany

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<v Speaker 1>and also Philadelphia County. But Bucks County is similar to

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<v Speaker 1>like a Warren County, which is thoroughly democratic. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was an order from the Pennsylvania Supreme Court that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't count mail in ballots or absentee ballots that are

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<v Speaker 1>not signed and or dated. So a ballot will come

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<v Speaker 1>in and it's not signed and or dated. And this

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<v Speaker 1>election official actually set on camera knowing she was being

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<v Speaker 1>taped in an official meeting. We're not going to pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court because we all know,

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<v Speaker 1>and she referenced the abortion matter of Dodd and dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with well, sometimes courts changed the law and abortion, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Absentee ballots, even though they're not signed and dated, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to count them anyway because it's the right thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And so now last night you may not

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<v Speaker 1>have seen it on YouTube, but I did, and there

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<v Speaker 1>were hundreds or thousands of citizens showed up and said,

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<v Speaker 1>what in the hell are you doing? The law said

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do it, but she wants to do it

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<v Speaker 1>anyway because she says they're democratic palace to overturn the

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<v Speaker 1>US Senate seat. What's your reaction to that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Willie, I'm going to go far afield and my

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<v Speaker 2>answer to this, but if you think about the immigration problem,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, the problem in many cases we have isn't

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<v Speaker 2>the laws we have on the books. It's that nobody

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<v Speaker 2>follows the laws the elected officials aren't enforcing the laws.

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<v Speaker 2>The people who are subject to the laws are ignoring

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<v Speaker 2>the laws. And it shows what happens in a society

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<v Speaker 2>where we lose respect for the courts and the rule

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<v Speaker 2>of law. So a foundational issue for the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>the steady unraveling of our society is when we take

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<v Speaker 2>the approach which we have with the immigration issue that yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the laws on the books, but everybody, the people who

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<v Speaker 2>are supposed to enforce it, and the immigrants and everyone else,

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<v Speaker 2>we just ignore what the law says. And that cannot

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<v Speaker 2>be the foundation of our society or everything unravels. And

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<v Speaker 2>an elected official that a high up, you know, important,

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<v Speaker 2>this is an important thing to control of the United

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<v Speaker 2>States Senate, yes, saying I'm going to ignore what the

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<v Speaker 2>courts have told me to do and do what I

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<v Speaker 2>think is the right thing to do. I don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how society continues to exist. And she

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<v Speaker 2>was rightly, you know, Josh Shapiro, the Democrat governor, and

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<v Speaker 2>other Democrats themselves condemned her for that approach because it

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<v Speaker 2>really reinforces what the people On January seventh and Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump we was saying, is that the last election was stolen.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you give people that argument and reinforce that

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<v Speaker 2>that there it's a lawless process to account the votes,

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<v Speaker 2>that this is one of the most important functions in

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<v Speaker 2>our society.

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<v Speaker 1>But she said that this is a very important function.

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<v Speaker 1>This is corridor our so called democracy. And if people

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<v Speaker 1>intend to vote and don't do it properly, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You do a lot of real estate work. What if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't sign a deed? What if you don't date

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<v Speaker 1>a d does that mean okay? The recorder might say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, even though Chris Finny he didn't sign

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<v Speaker 1>it and he didn't put a date on it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to interpret his intent. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to let the property transfer anyway. How does that end?

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<v Speaker 2>We all have laws that we have to comply with,

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<v Speaker 2>and if the approach begins to be, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>powerful get to decide which laws apply and which don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a pretty dangerous precedent. And there's a question which

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<v Speaker 2>I saw raised, which is should that election official be

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<v Speaker 2>charged criminally for what she did because the votes are

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<v Speaker 2>already counted, right, I mean, the ones that were counted

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<v Speaker 2>illegally are counted. You can't uncount them. So as far

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm concerned, she should be prosecuted just the same

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<v Speaker 2>way as the other folks that tampered with an election

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<v Speaker 2>should be prosecuted. That's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened in Minnesota also, where an official was actually

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<v Speaker 1>charged because he was voting four large numbers of people

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<v Speaker 1>in Minneapolis in the precinct and he was the election official,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a bunch of ballots left over at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the and he just added fifty more

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<v Speaker 1>to the roles and just put him in. And now,

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<v Speaker 1>once you com mingle the ballots, how do you uncom

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<v Speaker 1>mingle them? And that gives flight to the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>the elections are not square. And you know, I read

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<v Speaker 1>everything that I can. And for the last several cycles,

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<v Speaker 1>the winning or losing democrat had between sixty three and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight million votes that were counted and cast. And

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<v Speaker 1>that person's behalf, whether it was Obama or whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was Hillary Clinton, or I leave Joe Biden off to

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<v Speaker 1>the side, or Kamala Harris, they get between sixty three

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty nine million votes. All of a sudden, twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>there was eighty one million people. There was like an

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<v Speaker 1>initial twelve to thirteen million people voted, and where those

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<v Speaker 1>votes come from? That's Trump's argument, We don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>they came from. And then it went back to sea

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<v Speaker 1>level and this election back to about sixty seven sixty

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<v Speaker 1>eight million votes for Kamala Harris. So the conspiratory theorists

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<v Speaker 1>like Tony Benders says, wait a minute, what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>those seven or eight million votes? Where are they? And

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is maybe there were thousands of election officials

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<v Speaker 1>like in Bucks County, Pennsylvania. The simply said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>we know who should win this election. Let's add a

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<v Speaker 1>few to the polls co mingle them, in which case

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<v Speaker 1>we can't identify legal from illegal. And that gives the

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<v Speaker 1>conspiratorialists a hook to hang their hat on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, I unfortunately I do because

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<v Speaker 2>I wish, I wish those people didn't have a good point.

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<v Speaker 2>But when we have people that think that the rules

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<v Speaker 2>are flexible, as it were, to tilt the election, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of frightening, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Thirdly, what the guy that's what the guy in

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<v Speaker 2>Venezuela did you know he's been voted out twice, but

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<v Speaker 2>he fixes the vote each time, and nobody can do

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<v Speaker 2>it because he controls the military down there, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing anybody can do about it.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Maduro, and he decides, and they did

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<v Speaker 1>all this exit polling that came out and he lost

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<v Speaker 1>like eighty to twenty. But by the time the military

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<v Speaker 1>shut down the polling places and everyone counted up the votes,

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<v Speaker 1>he won eighty to twenty. How's that possible? Maybe Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>cant he was in charge, and maybe that's the tip

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<v Speaker 1>of the Iceberger. I can only imagine we have a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good Board of Elections director. Or her name is

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<v Speaker 1>Sherry poland had her on several times. I can only

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if she had a news conference, not some aside

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<v Speaker 1>to a friend and a bar, maybe at Zip's getting

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<v Speaker 1>a cheeseburger, but she's had an official meeting in which

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<v Speaker 1>she's announced, Look, I'm going to add to the voting

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<v Speaker 1>roles hundreds or thousands of votes that were not properly cast.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, why isn't she criminally charged. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Bucks County. That's a civil rights violation. And she

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<v Speaker 1>did it. She did it publicly, she admitted to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, well, no big deal. And Josh Shapiro,

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<v Speaker 1>to his credit, took several days to come out with

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<v Speaker 1>a statement about five days ago in which he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, follow the law. Then the Pennsylvania Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court issued another order. Follow the law. Then finally she said, okay, reluctantly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it. It's like, are you kidding me? We

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<v Speaker 1>can't have a participatory democracy with election officials with their

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<v Speaker 1>thumb and knees on the scale. Now, lastly, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Stanbury Park in Anderson Township, and this was in

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<v Speaker 1>our news about four or five days ago, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful park. Describe what Apte Pureval did there and

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<v Speaker 1>how relevant is to the people of Cincinnati and Hamleton County.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you could think of a stable, middle class

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood of working class people in Cincinnati, Mount Washington would

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<v Speaker 2>be a hard working, honest, and multi racial, multicultural community.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a woman that runs a barbecue station there in

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<v Speaker 2>downtown Mount Washington who's a bit of a pioneer hanging

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<v Speaker 2>on and Stanbury Park is the sort of the recreational

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<v Speaker 2>hub of Mount Washington and they've had homeless people living

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<v Speaker 2>there for a very long time, and the city, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess just yesterday finally did some more about it. But

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<v Speaker 2>there seems to be this Portland, Oregon idea that we're

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna bother the homeless people, which who are usually

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<v Speaker 2>doing drugs, mentally ill. In other words, you wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to send your twelve year old child to Stanbury Park

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<v Speaker 2>to play in the afternoon by himself or with his friends.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a safe place to be. And if your

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood park in a solid working class, middle class neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>can't be a safe place for children to go, or

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<v Speaker 2>for adults for that matter, we are undermining the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing I just said, undermining the rule of law, the

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<v Speaker 2>sense of stability in our society. And my question and

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<v Speaker 2>that that barbecue operator who's one of the pioneers in

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<v Speaker 2>the downtown urban business district of Mount Washington, if she's

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<v Speaker 2>saying I might move because I found people sleeping on

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<v Speaker 2>my picnic tables, and you know Heroin Needles, which is

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<v Speaker 2>close to Stanbury Park. If we're driving, who thinks that's

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<v Speaker 2>good policy? Is? Is Amika Owens, does aftab purable, does

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<v Speaker 2>Jan Michelle Arnie think that these are good policies? To

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<v Speaker 2>not not you know, we're not whether they say eat

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<v Speaker 2>the rich, we're not bothering the people in Indian Hill

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<v Speaker 2>and Hyde Park. This is a stable, important neighborhood of

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<v Speaker 2>this city where affordable housing is the most affordable housing

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<v Speaker 2>we have in the city exists. And the city will

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<v Speaker 2>not clean up that park. That's a problem, major problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and it was cleaned up at one point. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you sent me these five picks of what's happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>correct me if I'm wrong. Is it a crime to

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<v Speaker 1>use needles, take drugs, expose oneself, no bathroom facilities to

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<v Speaker 1>live and a park. Isn't that a crime?

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<v Speaker 2>It is? It is called vagrancy along with the drug

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<v Speaker 2>dealing and the drug using and other things. There's many

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<v Speaker 2>crimes that they're committing by living in the parks. And

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<v Speaker 2>we again, we just simply need to enforce the laws

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<v Speaker 2>consistently that we have instead of encouraging this bad behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>And our leaders of the city, and I got to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, I admire you know, the economic development engine

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<v Speaker 2>of the city is amazing. A lot of good things

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<v Speaker 2>are happening in this city. But I watched this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and I say, who thinks this is good policy? Because

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<v Speaker 2>all we're doing is undermining the people who are, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>struggling to hang on in I grew up in Kennedy Heights.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in a neighborhood. Seven kids in our family, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, we had to make our way through

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<v Speaker 2>that neighborhood with the schools and the parks and whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And our parents weren't around a whit. You know, they

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<v Speaker 2>would lock the doors and send us outside until after dark. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>will you remember the day? Yes? Yes, I was in it, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And you can't do that today because there's the fabric

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<v Speaker 2>of our society is in front of our eyes, unrailing.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just ask the question of the chief of police,

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<v Speaker 2>of the mayor, of city council members, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think this is good policy to let these these things continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Please enforce the laws that we've had on the books

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<v Speaker 2>and enforced when I was a kid, and otherwise these

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<v Speaker 2>things weren't a problem. Why all of a sudden have

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<v Speaker 2>we decided to not just enforce the laws as written

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<v Speaker 2>and make our communities safe places. I watched what, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, Gavin Newsom is finally in California cracking down

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<v Speaker 2>on this stuff. But I have to have purable when

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<v Speaker 2>the city is not.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would that be Well, it's because I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>politically incorrect. It should be politically correct to say we

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<v Speaker 1>can have illegal activity and crimes committed. Arrest them, clean

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<v Speaker 1>up the park, a station, a police officer there. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>shows up again, sleeps all night, uses drugs, urinat or defecated,

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<v Speaker 1>fornicated in public. You're under arrest, into the Justice center.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we ought to have a functioning longview statemental hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a homeless problem. That's a misnumber. It's drug

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<v Speaker 1>use and it's out alcohol and it's insanity, and those

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<v Speaker 1>people need help. You don't get help this afternoon, when

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<v Speaker 1>the snow's falling, it's thirty two degrees by sleeping outside

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<v Speaker 1>in some doorway of a barbecue plate that it can't

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<v Speaker 1>do business. And I've seen it, especially around Court Street

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<v Speaker 1>and downtown Cincinnati, where my good friend Sean Donovan lives,

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<v Speaker 1>that people live outside, they own the steps of Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Francis Seraph School and church. The city does nothing. They

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<v Speaker 1>watch drug dealing, drug use and urinating in public, and

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<v Speaker 1>no one does anything. It sends the message guess what

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay and it's not okay, and the city council

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<v Speaker 1>should worry about that stuff instead of the silliness they do.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Chris Finny once again, we'll see about Stanbury

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<v Speaker 1>Park and I'm going to try to my best this

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<v Speaker 1>weekend to go frequent that barbecue place I know where

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<v Speaker 1>it is to give that woman some business, because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't conduct a business in which those sleeping around you

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<v Speaker 1>are using drugs and acting out paranoid schizophrenia. But Chris Finny,

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<v Speaker 1>once again, thanks for coming on, Thanks for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill Cunningham Show. And Chris, you're really a very

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<v Speaker 1>important person in this community doing these kinds of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks for talking about it publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Thank you for shining the light

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<v Speaker 2>of truth on it. Willie appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Finney, God bless America. Let's continue with more. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not homelessness, it's insanity and drug use. City council

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<v Speaker 1>and the mayor puts up with it. I guess for

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<v Speaker 1>political purposes, and I don't get it. Bill Cunningham News

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