1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season three, 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,839 episode thirty eight of Clips in Dip. We got the 3 00:00:16,879 --> 00:00:19,800 full crew here. I am Duck Mackler, joined by Adam 4 00:00:19,839 --> 00:00:23,920 Oslin from La Void and Will Updyke is back from Montana. 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,120 What a joyous time in Clippers dumb. If you're listening 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,079 to us, thanks for listening. If you would like to 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,879 watch us, you can find us at YouTube dot com 8 00:00:31,879 --> 00:00:34,600 sash at Clippers podcast. Adam and I did a quick 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,840 little live recently to talk the Kawhi Leonard return date, 10 00:00:39,399 --> 00:00:42,799 which we're all three gonna talk about together in this episode. 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,560 We're also gonna look at the Clippers road trip coming 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,759 up that seems kind of weird. But before we get 13 00:00:49,799 --> 00:00:52,880 into that, Adam, Will, how are you fellas doing? Three 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:53,880 days after Christmas? 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,119 Speaker 2: Doing good? Doing good? Excited to be back with you guys. 16 00:00:57,119 --> 00:01:00,600 It was a lot was going on, so hop into 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,120 the mix. Partially due to just bopping all over the 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,799 place for the holidays, partially due to some of that 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,799 montane Internet is not is not as good as I 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,879 enjoy out here, So yeah, I apologize, miss y'all. You know, 21 00:01:16,359 --> 00:01:18,359 good to see, good to see good things are happening. 22 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:20,079 I'm getting tagged on Twitter. A lot of people are 23 00:01:20,079 --> 00:01:22,120 finally starting to see that maybe it is our year. 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,120 We're finally coming around. So to see that's a great 25 00:01:27,239 --> 00:01:28,280 Christmas present for me. 26 00:01:28,599 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: So that's great. I'm assuming you still made your family 27 00:01:31,439 --> 00:01:33,760 discuss the Clippers for at least forty five minutes at 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,879 least once a day, just to keep the reps up. 29 00:01:37,079 --> 00:01:42,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would do a this is our this is. 30 00:01:44,599 --> 00:01:47,519 Speaker 1: Adam, how are you doing? How's the void? 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: It's pretty dark, it's but the light, the light shining 32 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:56,400 through is the Clippers. The last couple of games, especially 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,599 the Memphis game that was a huge win. The Warriors game, 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,560 that fourth quarter was disgusting. 35 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: Was it twelve turnovers in the fourth I lost count 36 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,240 after I'll call it eight, But yeah, they really almost 37 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,560 threw that one away. That one would have been not 38 00:02:19,759 --> 00:02:22,919 maybe the worst loss of the season with how it 39 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,719 would have happened. 40 00:02:25,039 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: I think so like that was a complete meltdown and 41 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,639 just a lack of attention to detail. 42 00:02:34,319 --> 00:02:38,199 Speaker 1: I will say also, I'm happy that put Zemski I 43 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,639 liked the Clippers crowd reaction because Pods was annoying in 44 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,719 that game. Someone on Twitter said He reminds them of 45 00:02:46,759 --> 00:02:49,759 someone whose dad is the biggest donor on the AAU team, 46 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,159 but it's not qualified enough to coach, and that made 47 00:02:52,159 --> 00:02:57,240 me laugh. The good news this week, if y'all missed 48 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,879 it somehow, is there is indeed to target date for 49 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,599 Kawhi Leonard January fourth at into it though versus the Hawks. 50 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:09,840 Very big week coming up for that, which law Murray 51 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,840 outlined as well in his tweets. Kawhi is gonna practice 52 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,719 with the SD Clippers while the big Clippers are on 53 00:03:17,759 --> 00:03:19,759 this roadie. It is a three and four. 54 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,439 Speaker 4: Well, how are you feeling on when you left? We 55 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:25,439 didn't really know. We thought maybe it would be the 56 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,800 game against the Warriors. Now we have I don't want 57 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,840 to say a firm date, but we have a target. 58 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,159 Speaker 1: A target date, does it? It must really feel like 59 00:03:36,199 --> 00:03:36,719 it's our year. 60 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's interesting because I do feel like 61 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,479 they started hinting at it after sort of no update. 62 00:03:43,879 --> 00:03:46,719 You know, these things changed so quick, and to have 63 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,039 even a target now feels a lot different. You know, 64 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:53,120 I had just gotten sort of used to this team 65 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:56,319 being without Kawhi Leonard for so long that it you know, 66 00:03:56,439 --> 00:03:59,960 it's it's gonna be a different look, but it's exciting. 67 00:04:00,479 --> 00:04:03,159 We still I mean, Adam has been saying this, and 68 00:04:03,479 --> 00:04:07,080 I agree to. Like, even if we do get that 69 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,479 that target date as a start date, still gonna take 70 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:12,479 a couple of games before we can really settle in 71 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,680 and say, Okay, he's he's back. We know that the 72 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:19,560 we know that the knee is reacting as the train 73 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:21,560 staff wants it to, as his camp wants it to. 74 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,720 So it's I'm excited, but it's I'm still a little tentative. 75 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: I guess I think tentative is fair. I think that's 76 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:35,240 a probably the healthiest reaction to have. Yeah, I've liked 77 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,560 the quotes like Harden talking about it. They've talked about it, 78 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,879 like how Kawhi is like because he's nervous about, you know, 79 00:04:39,879 --> 00:04:42,360 fitting back in with the team too, And James Harden's like, dude, 80 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,720 I think we're gonna be okay, Adam, how are you feeling. 81 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,279 We got talked, We got on the stream and talked 82 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:48,759 a little bit. 83 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's good there's a target date. I 84 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,920 still I don't think there's ever gonna be a point 85 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,600 where I feel secure about why coming out of games 86 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,399 feeling healthy because yeah, you played sixty eight games last 87 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:10,319 year and out of nowhere his knee swelled up. There 88 00:05:10,439 --> 00:05:14,000 was no warning signs, nothing, So he can play the 89 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,920 next month every game, including back to backs, and I 90 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,040 still be like pins and needles, white knuckling, just holding 91 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:24,480 on for dear life, hoping that his knee doesn't swell 92 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,759 up randomly after some game, because that's basically what happened 93 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,279 last time. 94 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I still haven't watched it yet, but 95 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,160 I do want to rewatch that stream we did when 96 00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:37,480 you and I freaked out about the Kawhi Leonard knee thing. 97 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,639 I mean, the pins and needles thing makes so much sense, 98 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,079 Like I don't there's some Debbie downers on the YouTube comments, 99 00:05:45,079 --> 00:05:48,439 for sure, saying that people are foolish to think that 100 00:05:48,519 --> 00:05:51,800 Kawhi will come back and play healthy. But I don't know. 101 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,759 It's they've done everything right right, Like we can't really 102 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,759 fault any of their preparation to this point, I don't think. 103 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can clown people for getting their hopes up. 104 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,959 I guess if you'd like to do that, But what 105 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:12,040 else are we supposed to do? Like, I think we're 106 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,199 going in with our eyes open still I think we 107 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:15,680 all know what could happen. 108 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what, but like, what else are you 109 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,279 supposed to do with the information that your team's best 110 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,240 player and most and highly like the highest salary uh 111 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,199 is going to return? Like you have to have you 112 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,360 have to have hope. I mean, otherwise it's just a 113 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:32,120 void of a roster spot. Like what do you what 114 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:32,959 do you want me to say? 115 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, then we just have we just have another PJ Tucker. 116 00:06:35,439 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: PJ Tucker two point zero. 117 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:42,759 Speaker 1: Way better PJ Tucker. Yeah, I'm hyped. I hope. 118 00:06:43,079 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: I like what. 119 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: I think the reporting that Laude did was very good too. 120 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,600 Write he said the team is still taking his status slowly. 121 00:06:51,199 --> 00:06:54,639 A lot of developments that could take place this week 122 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,439 being the key step because again he's gonna be practicing 123 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:00,600 with San Diego Clippers. I talked about this with Adam Will. 124 00:07:01,439 --> 00:07:03,519 I do not want to be a San Diego Clipper 125 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,839 who has to now go against Kawhi Leonard in practice. 126 00:07:07,879 --> 00:07:11,079 That's a sharp I'm great for your game, but damn, 127 00:07:11,079 --> 00:07:13,279 that's gonna be a tough week for some of those. 128 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of disagree, just because we know 129 00:07:17,279 --> 00:07:19,279 that these J League guys are are some of the 130 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,839 hungriest that it's you know, we've heard players who have 131 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,959 who have played on two ways say that you don't 132 00:07:23,959 --> 00:07:25,920 want to be there so much, not even so much 133 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:28,720 because it's a B team, but because everybody is like 134 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:30,720 fighting tooth and nail to make. 135 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:31,439 Speaker 1: A roster spot. 136 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,759 Speaker 2: So I think this is like, I mean, I think 137 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,800 these guys you know, thereof the mindset that this is 138 00:07:36,839 --> 00:07:38,600 like the perfect challenge for them. And I think that 139 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:42,279 it's a good environment where Kauai obviously has like an 140 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:46,480 athletic and competitive edge over everyone, but it's not No 141 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:49,000 one is going to go at fifty percent at him, 142 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:49,680 I don't think. 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: So. 144 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: I do think that that's like a good a good 145 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,480 reintroduction to to getting back into game speed and again 146 00:07:57,279 --> 00:07:59,800 assuming that that target stays the same, if he's able 147 00:07:59,839 --> 00:08:02,040 to play at that level, I mean, it's it's it's 148 00:08:02,079 --> 00:08:03,839 a good sign that things are on the right track. 149 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,959 Speaker 1: As far as the swelling is concerned. They got to 150 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,879 get Elijah Harkless on them. That's the ultimate. That's how 151 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:10,519 you get Kawi back into shape. 152 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: I also don't understand swelling. Mike Adam said it popped 153 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,560 up out of nowhere. Last time. I truly have no idea. Truly, 154 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,279 I'm really just kind of this is just in my head. 155 00:08:19,319 --> 00:08:23,360 I'm just rationalizing this myself. I'm in no way a doctor. Yeah, 156 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,800 I just ran right. It just it just just the 157 00:08:25,879 --> 00:08:30,120 swelling decides is. I feel like what the situation. 158 00:08:29,839 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: Is now, people are talking about the starting lineup when 159 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,440 Kawi comes back. I think we all might be on 160 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,679 the same page on this, right, it's gonna be Harden, 161 00:08:39,879 --> 00:08:43,399 Norm Kawhi, Derek Jones sabots right. 162 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. Some people were thinking Chris Dunn might stay in it, 163 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:50,879 and that means either DJ Norm Powell comes out. But 164 00:08:50,919 --> 00:08:53,799 Derek Jones Junior. Is just such a more versatile defender. 165 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,080 Even though Chris Dunn might be the best a couple 166 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,480 of specific things, Derek Jones Jr. Can guard up, guard 167 00:09:00,519 --> 00:09:03,840 pretty much one through four at times, guard a center. 168 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,240 So I don't think you can take that guy out. 169 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:09,360 And Law made a good point all with me pre game, 170 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,960 like he won the battle during training camp to get 171 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:12,759 that starting spot. 172 00:09:12,799 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: Derek. Yeah, So I don't think he's. 173 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: Giving it up. I don't think he's done anything wrong 174 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:20,840 to lose his spot. He's been the best of. 175 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: Them and you're not dropping Norm back to the bench 176 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:26,320 just because he's having such a year that to keep 177 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:27,200 if normally. 178 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: You need the offense, you just need the offense and 179 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:34,360 there's no but you know, what reason, what data point 180 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,480 do you have that to be like okay, that like 181 00:09:36,519 --> 00:09:38,039 it makes more sense for him to be on the 182 00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:40,360 bench because you know, like I talked about, there there 183 00:09:40,399 --> 00:09:44,840 are some defensive liabilities I think with two guards, especially 184 00:09:44,879 --> 00:09:50,440 with an undersized guard in Norm, but like it has yeah, 185 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:53,960 it hasn't been an issue, So yeah, I don't I 186 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,320 don't see Norm coming out of the story line up. 187 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,279 That would be an insane change to me. 188 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: It'd be a big swig. That would be kind. That 189 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,919 would be Tyler's first what are we doing move? 190 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,159 Speaker 2: Especially with the way, especially with the way Don is 191 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:07,720 shooting from outside, like it just doesn't really make It 192 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,360 doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me. 193 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,039 And I like done. I like done, but it doesn't 194 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:14,000 make a whole lot of sense to me. 195 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: Dun's been great. I think he's been a little bit 196 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,879 better from three as of late, because I think he's 197 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,360 up to like thirty three percent shooting on the year now. 198 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,559 But the three point shot has been elusive for him, 199 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:30,639 his defense far always it. He leaves them in plus 200 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:31,559 minus on the season. 201 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's elite, he's their best impact. 202 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,159 Speaker 3: Crazy. Yeah, And I just can't see since when do 203 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,879 twenty five point per game scores come off the bench, 204 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,639 because that's basically what norm Pal's doing now, Like, it 205 00:10:44,799 --> 00:10:45,440 can't happen. 206 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't the Lou Williams era. 207 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:49,039 Speaker 2: We can't. 208 00:10:49,399 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: We don't. We don't need the sixth man to put 209 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:56,000 up twenty five. So now that begs the question, who 210 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,799 do we think is getting squished out of the rotation? 211 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,240 So we just talked about the starting five. Now the 212 00:11:00,279 --> 00:11:02,919 bench is and this is in no particular order except 213 00:11:02,919 --> 00:11:08,399 maybe the last one Dunn, Terrence, emir KPJ Nico and Bamba. 214 00:11:08,799 --> 00:11:15,440 That would be an eleven guy rotation. I think probably 215 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,840 that ty lud is once like an eight or nine 216 00:11:19,879 --> 00:11:23,440 guy rotation just heading into the playoffs because you're gonna 217 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,639 want to You're not playing that many guys. Who's getting 218 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:32,440 squeezed out? Who do we think is gonna just. 219 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: Well, you didn't listen him, but I mean this is 220 00:11:34,919 --> 00:11:38,519 I'm sorry to the Jordan Miller heads, but oh yeah, 221 00:11:38,639 --> 00:11:40,879 it's kind of the end of the road as far 222 00:11:40,879 --> 00:11:47,039 as that development goes this season, which is bittersweet. 223 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,879 Speaker 3: His confidence looks pretty low right now. Yeah, the airball 224 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,360 to three last night, he hesitated on some shots. They've 225 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,320 been ripping him at the rim when he goes to 226 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:02,240 his you know, downhill uh attack. 227 00:12:02,759 --> 00:12:04,639 Speaker 2: And it's like a combination of like, you know, he's 228 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,399 had a few down downward games and now like with 229 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:10,559 the you know, a rotation shake up as well, Like 230 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,360 it's just the outlook is not looking very good from 231 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:16,159 from where we had come into the season hoping uh 232 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,879 to get Jordan Miller into just being a rotation level player. 233 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:26,360 I don't think that that is a likely outcome, but 234 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,639 of these guys. 235 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of just assumed Miller was already out 236 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,840 of the room. No, no, you play. 237 00:12:33,799 --> 00:12:35,399 Speaker 2: I just wanted to touch on it because we've talked 238 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:38,159 about we have talked about Jordan Miller so much like 239 00:12:38,519 --> 00:12:42,320 this entire season. I think it's gonna be sort of 240 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,639 like a a hotthand in terms of game impact between 241 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,679 Terrence and emrr uh for the most part, Bomba's minutes 242 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,320 are gonna be Bomba's minutes unless they're looking really bad. 243 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,600 I just still think that we need some additional size 244 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,360 out there. Maybe we I mean with Kawhi, we can't 245 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,919 transition back to smaller lineups, so that would be a lot. 246 00:13:03,799 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: Less He'll need to get spelled like you know, we can't. 247 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:11,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just for Zeus Cardio, We're gonna need it. 248 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:14,000 And then like, I don't know, you know that like 249 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:17,000 going back to the small ball thing. You know, it 250 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,120 hasn't been that effective outside of the initial you know, 251 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:27,720 the the initial wingstop line like order it has. Yeah, 252 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,320 I mean it hasn't really been as effective as it was. 253 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: What is that now? 254 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: Three seasons ago? Good lord, very long time ago. So 255 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,120 you have the you have the pieces to do it, 256 00:13:39,159 --> 00:13:42,200 and you certainly have the versatility which would would limit 257 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,679 that time even more. But I still think that he's 258 00:13:44,759 --> 00:13:48,519 secured at least spot minutes in the rotation just due 259 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:49,559 to the need at the position. 260 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: And so, Adam, who do you think is Like I 261 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,840 think I think KPJ's minutes are going to be reduced 262 00:13:56,879 --> 00:13:59,440 a little bit, but I I don't know, I don't 263 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:03,840 see him getting a bunch of minutes cut because we 264 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:06,080 still need even with dun healthy, we still need a 265 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,399 guy who can initiate the offense, and it's not like 266 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:14,159 done has been. Yeah, very head and shoulders excelling at that. 267 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,360 And kp shot has come around the last like fourteen 268 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,759 games or so from outside. But like, I don't think 269 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,000 kpg's gone anywhere. 270 00:14:23,559 --> 00:14:28,639 Speaker 3: I don't think he is either. And Chris Donne last 271 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:32,159 night he had a few of those turnovers in the 272 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,919 back court again where and this was before the almost 273 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,799 collapse in the fourth quarter. In the first half, he 274 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:42,399 had two turnovers just getting the ball into the front court, 275 00:14:42,519 --> 00:14:44,399 just like he did in that game in Minnesota where 276 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:46,480 he threw it right to Anthony Edwards. He had a 277 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:50,320 couple more of those last night. It's shaky. With Chris 278 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:53,440 Dunn out there bringing the ball up, it hasn't been great. 279 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:59,759 So KPJ his presence was probably felt. Him missing last 280 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,039 night totally because of the fourth quarter. He probably would 281 00:15:04,039 --> 00:15:05,519 have been one of the go to guys to bring 282 00:15:05,559 --> 00:15:08,120 the ball up and help out James Harden, not that 283 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,399 James could even help himself. So I don't see KPJ 284 00:15:12,559 --> 00:15:15,200 coming out, But I don't see Chris Dunn coming out either. 285 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,799 I think Terrence Man is gonna be one of the 286 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:22,480 guys who's out. He was only starting to come around 287 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:34,559 right after oh Zerr Coyote, right right before, right before 288 00:15:34,559 --> 00:15:37,039 he got hurt. He was just starting to come out 289 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,799 of his slump. So the timing couldn't have been worse. 290 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,320 He just had the great game against Denver where he 291 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,360 had that big offensive rebound which led to a three 292 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,600 pointer by him in the far side corner. And there 293 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,759 are other guys that do what he does better, I 294 00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:54,840 think right now, I think that's clear. So I don't know. 295 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,720 Mobamba has to get some minutes, as you mentioned, because 296 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:06,080 they just have to beach another big body, Nico. Nico 297 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,799 has been good, Like I think he might be second 298 00:16:08,799 --> 00:16:11,120 and plus minus rating on the season, which is pretty 299 00:16:11,159 --> 00:16:14,000 crazy because he gets in a lot of bad lineups, 300 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,440 he still finds a way to win his minutes. 301 00:16:16,519 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: That's a great point. That's a great point. He I mean, 302 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,200 but we've talked about this before. Like the biggest thing 303 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,159 with Eco coming back is he is the glue that 304 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,919 makes a lot of these these lineups work. A lot 305 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,080 of these things that are not great on paper or 306 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:34,840 on court quite frankly, are the floor is raised anytime 307 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:35,399 he's out there. 308 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got to be what is what have we 309 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,519 used before? He's got to be the adult on the 310 00:16:39,559 --> 00:16:42,600 court sometimes and like just making sure everything's not crazy. 311 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,159 So now we're in this thing, right, So it's so 312 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:49,360 Terrence probably gets his minutes cut down. So now we're 313 00:16:49,399 --> 00:16:51,799 at what ten guy rotation? 314 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 3: It might be Terrence and a mirror then like, yeah. 315 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: That's a mirror. Yeah, I think. 316 00:16:58,159 --> 00:17:00,919 Speaker 2: I think it flip flops between which either one of 317 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:04,200 those guys is more effective in any given game, which 318 00:17:05,759 --> 00:17:08,079 I guess it's a bummer to both of those guys. 319 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,880 But I think it's an alright position to be for 320 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,640 the Clippers because I, oh, yeah, I'm comfortable with either guy, 321 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,039 so can have minutes on the floor. 322 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:24,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, Emir's had a rough but I he hit three 323 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,680 three pointers last night, but before that he had five points. 324 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,000 He Spanish two games against Memphis and against Dallas. He 325 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:34,400 wasn't really looking for a shot much. But I feel bad. 326 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,799 Amir's having a great year. I wish he could handle 327 00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:42,119 the rock more. But that's the thing that is going 328 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,839 to keep KPJ getting minutes out there. 329 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: Tyler has some weird decisions to make because this is 330 00:17:50,519 --> 00:17:53,200 kind of the funny thing, right, The Clippers have played 331 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,240 so well without Kawhi, you know, but because everyone's playing well, 332 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,279 it's like, well, who's missing time? This is where the 333 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,079 I think one of the hardest things of being a 334 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,359 head coaches, Like your team is overperforming, you're getting a starbuck. 335 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,359 Now you gotta cut some guys who've been playing better 336 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,519 within the team than they usually have. 337 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: So that'll be some interesting don't you got to consider 338 00:18:13,799 --> 00:18:16,039 trading terrorists? Man, if there's a move to be made 339 00:18:16,079 --> 00:18:16,480 out there. 340 00:18:17,079 --> 00:18:21,079 Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, I think a consolidation. I 341 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,839 don't know if it has to happen, but very much 342 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,160 could with the team that's wanting to plan for the 343 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,319 future more right. 344 00:18:28,079 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 2: Adam, how do you think that this Kawhi Leonard returned. 345 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,400 Do you think that this impacts anything as far as 346 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,079 how we've talked so far on the show about what 347 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,880 the Clippers could do at the deadline. How do you 348 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,359 think this impacts their their decisions if at all. 349 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,319 Speaker 1: Are they training for John Collins or not? Dude, that's 350 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:44,240 the that's the question. 351 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: I would Sorry, I'm being around the bush over here. 352 00:18:50,559 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 3: I would still wait to see how the team looks 353 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,240 outside of trading PJ Tucker or balls Highland because they're 354 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,799 on the outs anyways. And outside of if you can 355 00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:03,160 fleece a team, if you can have a Portland Trailblazer 356 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,480 situation like how they got No More Pale. If you 357 00:19:05,519 --> 00:19:07,079 can get one over on a team and you're not 358 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,359 losing anything to improve your roster, then I would still 359 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,640 make a move early on, even without seeing how Kawhi 360 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:16,640 Learned looks. But we talked about Colin Sexton. I like 361 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,400 calling Sexton. I think there's this misnomer about him that 362 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:22,000 he's some inefficient guy or something like that. I was 363 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:25,559 listening to my guys on Talking Ship earlier today and 364 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:29,640 Brandon Marcus, who's my guy, but there is some perception 365 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,559 about him that he's not very efficient, and he's one 366 00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:35,559 of the more efficient players out there now. Him being 367 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,559 undersized could be problematic, but he does give effort on 368 00:19:39,559 --> 00:19:43,039 the defensive end. Calin Sexton. If you could get Callin 369 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,960 Sexton without giving up that first round pick, I would 370 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,759 consider it, regardless of what Kawhi looks like, because he's 371 00:19:48,759 --> 00:19:51,599 a young player and it's not with him. It's not 372 00:19:51,759 --> 00:19:54,759 just about trying to raise your ceiling this year. It's 373 00:19:54,759 --> 00:19:56,720 about having a good player that could be coming off 374 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,119 the bench for years to come. He also, his on 375 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,400 track comes up in the summer of twenty twenty six, 376 00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:05,799 so if things didn't go well, it's not like he's 377 00:20:05,799 --> 00:20:07,480 gonna be on the books while you're going big game 378 00:20:07,599 --> 00:20:11,440 hunting during that big year, during that big offseason where 379 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,000 the Clippers could be making moves. 380 00:20:13,039 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: And he's maybe a part of those moves. Right Like, 381 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:18,839 if you look like he tradable contract. I love Colin Sexton, 382 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,519 he would fit. He fits this twenty four to twenty 383 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:27,680 five Clippers team mentality wise, so well he there would 384 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,599 be a lot worse guys. Again, I was just looking 385 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,960 at this schedule. If Kawhi comes back on this target date, 386 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,839 the Clippers will have like fifteen or sixteen games before 387 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,519 the trade deadline, which I don't know how many. I mean, 388 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,680 I think the team's going to be great after you know, 389 00:20:43,759 --> 00:20:47,680 some growing pains and whatnot, But that timing makes it 390 00:20:47,759 --> 00:20:48,359 kind of interesting. 391 00:20:49,839 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: They definitely shouldn't be taking any big swings where you'd 392 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,680 have to give up a first round pick or Jordan 393 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,720 Miller or some young player or something like that on 394 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:01,519 the off chance that Kawhi Leonard, you know, can stay healthy. 395 00:21:01,559 --> 00:21:03,240 The rest of the season when we don't even know 396 00:21:03,279 --> 00:21:05,240 he hasn't even been back yet, right, and if you 397 00:21:05,279 --> 00:21:08,359 only got fifteen sixteen games before the trade deadline to 398 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,799 see what he has, that's not enough time to I 399 00:21:11,839 --> 00:21:16,079 don't know guarantee anything about Kawhi and his future status. 400 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:21,039 Speaker 1: Yes, think this is where the front office and coaching 401 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:23,640 stuff just makes my head hurt. It's just such a 402 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:29,279 weird spot to be in. Haggle no haggle the Clippers 403 00:21:29,279 --> 00:21:31,279 will have home court advantage in the first round of 404 00:21:31,319 --> 00:21:37,000 the playoffs. Yeah, what is the ceiling now? The question 405 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:39,680 was haggle, no haggle, sir, I haggle. 406 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: They can? Is it can? 407 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:44,279 Speaker 1: Or will will? 408 00:21:44,839 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: Oh man, I might have to haggle that. 409 00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: Well, well, I mean that's that's fair. So, just looking 410 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,880 at the standings as of right now, the Clippers are 411 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,160 two games out of a home court advantage spot. They're 412 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,559 seven and a half games out of first. The Mavericks 413 00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:01,079 are in four worth, just ahead of them at five 414 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,160 and a half games out. 415 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:06,039 Speaker 3: The MAVs are about to be missing a key player 416 00:22:06,079 --> 00:22:08,160 and half their team over the next week after the 417 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,599 fight that happened yesterday. 418 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: Yes, then, of course, then it gets into teams that 419 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,319 might be an issue. One, two, three. Right now is 420 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,319 the thunder Grizzlies Rockets, and I genuinely can't think of 421 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,559 three teams better set up to uh play against it 422 00:22:24,759 --> 00:22:30,680 and beat the LAS. But home court advantage wise, we're 423 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,400 a half game up on the Lakers, which feels a 424 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:38,039 little terrifying. Will you. You don't think by the end 425 00:22:38,039 --> 00:22:40,039 of this they'll have gotten two games on that four 426 00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:44,640 seed and into it Dome we'll be rocking game one again. 427 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a possibility. I think it's 428 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,440 a possibility. I don't know if I'm if I'm ready 429 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,119 to say it's a foregone conclusion. Let me give me 430 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,200 a couple of games a KWHI Leonard, and then uh, 431 00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:57,200 then I can make a little bit more bold of 432 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:57,720 a prediction. 433 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,559 Speaker 1: In a week. 434 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not thrilled at the prospect of the 435 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:07,920 four or five matchup. No, if I'm being honest. 436 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:08,759 Speaker 1: No, it's gonna be. 437 00:23:09,079 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 2: I think I'd honestly rather drop to six. 438 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: But well, we are winning the Chip, so winning the 439 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,200 Chip out of the sixth spot would be pretty crazy. 440 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,599 Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna be. I'm not wild though at 441 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:20,359 four or five. 442 00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna the standings are starting to kind of solidify. 443 00:23:23,799 --> 00:23:26,359 You know, you get like the three chunks of standings. 444 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,000 The Kings are kind of top of the bottom right now, 445 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,039 they're twelve and a half games out. Then you have 446 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,240 this chunk of teams that are like seven and a 447 00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:39,559 half to ten games out, and you have kind of 448 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:45,440 the top. It's gonna be disgusting. These these standings are 449 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,400 gonna move constantly, and I do not like when that happens, 450 00:23:49,599 --> 00:23:52,720 just because it's so nervous making Adam, you're going first round. 451 00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're in that four or five matchup, 452 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,559 you're looking at the first round against probably most likely 453 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,720 like the Mavericks, the Lakers, or the Nuggets. I feel like. 454 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,519 Speaker 3: This is bad. 455 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: I don't really want any one of those in the 456 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,559 first round. 457 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 3: No, I'd rather play the Rockets. I don't care. I 458 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,799 know people are like, well, they're three to zero against 459 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:16,799 the Clippers, Like great, they don't have a guy who 460 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,880 averages twenty points per game. Also, if the Clippers have 461 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,119 Kawhi and James Harden, they likely have the two best 462 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,799 players in that series. I don't fear them in a 463 00:24:24,839 --> 00:24:25,839 seven game series. 464 00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I don't fear them, but I understand 465 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,039 that argument. They are. They're just that bench is nasty. 466 00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: They're definitely a tough matchup. But I think that I 467 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,480 think the playoffs is just different. 468 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: The experience we saw it when we've played the maps, right, 469 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:42,400 those earlier series where it's like, well we've had the 470 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,160 older team. Yeah, the four or five matches could be brutal, 471 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,640 but Adam, you don't think you think we're maybe still 472 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,839 a fiver a Lincolner. 473 00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: It's going to be close. There's fifty one games just 474 00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:00,799 left right, sure, so it's going to be closed. 475 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: I won't take your word for any time you say 476 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,119 how many games I go, Yeah, of. 477 00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: Course I've played thirty one games. 478 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: You're doing your break, dude. 479 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 3: I I just because the standings are going to be 480 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,720 so close for so long, I'd rather say haggle and 481 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,640 play it safe and say they're not going to be 482 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,160 a top four seed. But it's not like it's a 483 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,279 possibility they will be within range. It could come down 484 00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:29,039 to two games easily. 485 00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:32,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me look at the strength of schedule. I 486 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:36,599 believe the Clippers they have a pretty average strength of schedule. 487 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:42,880 Remaining seventeenth. The average win percentage of their remaining opponents 488 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,640 is forty nine percent. So I love hearing that, Yes, 489 00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:51,720 here's who we play, here's the difficult games. Calves twice, 490 00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:56,839 Thunder twice, Celtics ons, Grizzlies twice, Knicks twice, Rockets once. 491 00:25:57,039 --> 00:26:00,440 But we get five games of the Pels and as 492 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,000 a couple of games against the Hornets a Blazers game 493 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:08,240 in there. So yeah, like, I feel like that tells 494 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:10,000 us nothing because it's like, all right, it's not easier, 495 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,079 it's not hard. Maybe they'll win a game they're supposed to, 496 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,519 maybe they'll drop when they're not supposed to. 497 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 3: Remember what we were saying before the season started, where 498 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,400 we were like, okay, go five hundred and then go 499 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,599 ten games over five hundred with Kawhi Leonard whenever he's back, 500 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,200 and that will get you a top six seed in 501 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,279 the Western Conference. That seems very reasonable. 502 00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you know by that metric, I guess it 503 00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:46,039 depends on how you how you factor in the remaining 504 00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:48,920 back to backs. But they've over it. They've overachieved their 505 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,440 expectations totally to this point so. 506 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 3: Well, and we're talking about getting home court in the 507 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,559 first round. Now we've shifted from let's I was saying, 508 00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:03,480 definitely before the season, I felt like a sixth seed 509 00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:07,799 would be their ceiling based upon if Kawhi plays fifty games, well, 510 00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:10,599 he's not going to be able to play fifty. He 511 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,559 might play it forty two. 512 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: Could play fifty one. 513 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 3: We ain't going on the road trip, so that's gonna 514 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:20,880 be difficult. 515 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,759 Speaker 1: That's what they told you. 516 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,839 Speaker 2: He's blazing through these blazing through these targets. 517 00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,039 Speaker 1: It's a three and four. If he's ready, he's ready. 518 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,759 Speaker 3: He's not flying with them. He's driving solo in the. 519 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: Blazer with the AM radio. Yeah. I do like how 520 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:39,240 the expectations have shifted. It does feel a lot better 521 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:41,160 to be like, hey, well maybe not a whole lot 522 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,960 better because he just ran down to our first round 523 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,759 matchups might. 524 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: Be four or five. Is that's that's a tax. 525 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,839 Speaker 1: Trap, dude? It's like, yeah, that'll be, well, that will be. 526 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: If they got Kawhi and they take on Dallas. I'm 527 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,680 pretty sure they were beating them this year if they 528 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,880 had Kawai. So okay, maybe maybe it's not the worst 529 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,920 thing in the world. 530 00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to be insufferable if we draw the Mavericks 531 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,680 in the first round. Cannot stand that too. Would you 532 00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:18,039 what would you rather have the Lakers or Denver Lakers? 533 00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:23,160 I think Tyler would coach JJ Redick into a box. 534 00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, just the way, the way Lebron's look him, 535 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,880 and just the favorable there's a lot of there's a 536 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,720 lot of things that seem to roll the Lakers a way. 537 00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:33,720 That's all I'm gonna say. 538 00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:37,599 Speaker 1: Same with Denver. It's not like Denver. It's not. 539 00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:41,559 Speaker 3: What I'm saying though, Like I'd rather have Dallas in 540 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,599 both those teams. 541 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm being asked if I would rather 542 00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:47,759 get like punched in the left eye, the right eye, 543 00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:51,960 or the stomach, because what these questions? 544 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: That's fair? Pod has entered the chat. 545 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take I would take the Mavericks over those 546 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,839 just because it's like, let's just get this over with. 547 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:03,359 Speaker 3: A shit. 548 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: Here we go, let's avenge ourselves from last year. Let's 549 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,960 show how much better we are without PJ. Tucker taking 550 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,759 the most full attempt on the second half of an 551 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:12,839 elimination game. Yeah. 552 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: I think if healthy, like if Kawhi is healthy, I 553 00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:19,000 like that matchup a little more for sure. 554 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And also We're gonna be at the thirty five 555 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,759 or again when the playoffs come, because that was super 556 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:27,359 fun over in Pasadena. Well, not fun because we lost, 557 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,599 but the drinking was fun. Let us know over at 558 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,400 Twitter at Clippers pod or at YouTube at Clippers Podcast. 559 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: What do you think about the Clippers seating? What do 560 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,720 you think about Kawhi coming back? I know most people 561 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:43,119 are excited. There's a few poor souls who are not 562 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,680 coming up. We're gonna be talking the Clippers road trip, 563 00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:49,599 which feels, as I mentioned, a little weird if you're 564 00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:51,160 listening to us on audio, is gonna be a quick 565 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,839 break and then talking the Clippers roadie in three two one? 566 00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into cliffs and did we talked 567 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,960 a little bit about the tar get return date for 568 00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:04,599 Kawhi Leonard, But before the Clippers get there, they got 569 00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:06,920 a road trip coming up. They gonna take on the Pals, 570 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:12,200 the Spurs and the Thunder. So what do we think 571 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,519 on this one? Fellas two and one, three and oh, 572 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,799 Adam did I hear three? 573 00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: And oh? Is that it's the void? Is that the void? 574 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,559 A you? Uh, you might have heard one and two 575 00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:25,880 you think wanted to just because of the back to 576 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,720 back and then the Thunder. 577 00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, San Antonio, you know Wemby took that next step 578 00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:37,160 for sixteen fifteen. I mean, they're three and three in 579 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,240 their last six games, But I just worry second out 580 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,759 of a back to back hardness look gast at times recently. 581 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,559 I think that's gonna be a really tough game. So 582 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:51,079 they really need to handle business. If they could dispense 583 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,279 of the New Orleans Pelicans and not overlook them and 584 00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:56,079 have the fourth quarter like they just had against the 585 00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:58,839 Golden State Warriors, they play like that. They could lose anybody. 586 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,640 But if they handle the business against the Pelicans, then 587 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,759 they can set themselves up for a better chance against 588 00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:04,240 the Spurs. 589 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Pels on the thirtieth New Year's Eve. 590 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,240 They get the Spurs that on the second it's against 591 00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:15,920 OKC Thunder. Who knows, maybe the Thunder enjoying that lavish, exuberant, 592 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,720 wild Oklahoma City New Year's Eve lifestyle that we all 593 00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:22,759 hear about, and the Clippers get a bit of a break, 594 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,240 you know, two day hangover. Yeah, I think difficulty wise, 595 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:30,079 it's like Thunder Spurs, Pels, But the Pels are also 596 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,920 such a wild card like this is now a team 597 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,119 where it's like, oh, this guy who's made twenty eight 598 00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:39,200 percent of his threes is now gonna go seven for 599 00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:42,279 nine or something like that. I like what you said 600 00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:44,519 about taking care of business and will you brought this 601 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,319 up a couple episodes ago. All the games that they've 602 00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:49,480 been like, I really hope they show up for. They've 603 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,480 shown up for for the most part, which does make 604 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:53,319 me feel a little bit better about that Pels matchup. 605 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talk a little bit about what would be 606 00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:57,880 the worst loss of the season at the top of 607 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,880 this episode. One of the worst for me was just 608 00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:04,640 that Portland game. Yeah, that's that Portland game at homes. 609 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,039 That to me that that one stung like the other 610 00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:08,640 ones did not. 611 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good call, But. 612 00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: I don't see that. I don't first see that happening 613 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,640 against the Pels. I think the team is like they're 614 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,640 more locked in, they get it. 615 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,079 Speaker 1: They got some Kahi news to like build the momentum 616 00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:23,880 and energy and stuff off of. 617 00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: That's really the only loss where they blew it. I 618 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,599 guess a team they were heavily favored agains and I 619 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,000 don't think we've been able to say that in the past. 620 00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,519 It felt like there were more of these losses where 621 00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:38,119 the Clippers had a let down. 622 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a bunch of losses where the Clippers 623 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,680 had to let down, where we were just playing down 624 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,880 to their level and watching them be shitty in the 625 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,920 first quarter and then be like, oh, I guess we 626 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,920 should kick it in the gear. Like halfway through the 627 00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:55,279 second I was looking at the Pels, not the Pels, 628 00:32:55,319 --> 00:33:01,039 the Thunders stats. Excuse me for overlooking and Pelican stats, 629 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,640 but we kind of know what they're all about. Okay, 630 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,079 See is a damn juggernaut first and net rating first 631 00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,720 and defensive ratings. Shay had forty five against the Clippers. 632 00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:14,799 Like them. I think they're gonna go two and one 633 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:18,000 on this road trip. I think they're gonna win that 634 00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:20,279 back to back, and then I think we might see 635 00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:26,000 a pretty you know, a loss against the Thunder is 636 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:26,640 how I'll say it. 637 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,599 Speaker 3: I think that'd be great if they go too and one, 638 00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:31,599 that'd be fantastic. 639 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: What's their record on back to backs this year? 640 00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 3: I feel like it's been good, shockingly good. They won 641 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,680 the first back to back. I want to say they've 642 00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:44,960 had two sweeps so far. 643 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: Clippers are wait the way that statnews does this is annoying? 644 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,039 Clippers are three and three on no rest, So. 645 00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:57,119 Speaker 3: The second game of the back to back, Yeah, I 646 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,359 mean you'll take that, honestly. 647 00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:10,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, Thunder five and oh, good for you will? Are 648 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,400 you thinking two and one? Are you thinking three? And oh? 649 00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:15,400 Are you thinking we we take that four seed? Maybe 650 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,360 after this road trip? 651 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,039 Speaker 3: Th road trip? 652 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: Man? The Thunder have won ten in a row, you 653 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,199 would think low averages. They got a drop one And 654 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,440 if you got a drop one, why not do it 655 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,320 to this Clippers name? 656 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: How many games do they play before us? 657 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 3: That is a good question. 658 00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:42,599 Speaker 1: So they got the Grizzlies tomorrow, the Timberwolves on New 659 00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,559 Year's Eve, and then Us on the second. So they have. 660 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,119 Speaker 2: So yeah, they'll they'll either be a little depleted or 661 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,199 super locked in such a. 662 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:56,039 Speaker 1: Brutal Schedulerizzims, Clippers, I. 663 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 3: Don't hate that. Oh, they might take some skin off 664 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,119 them before. 665 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: I would hope those are all super important for the standings. 666 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, a bear than a wolf? Are you fucking kidding me? That? 667 00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:17,039 Speaker 1: A big ship? I don't even prepare for three such different. 668 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,639 Speaker 2: Opponents could be you don't even know. 669 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: Could be Dracula. Oh yeah, real quick, since sometimes. We 670 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:28,360 talked about movies, Adam, did you see those yet? Oh? No, 671 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,880 do we lose Adam. He used to come to the 672 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,719 darkness his car, his car doors open. Have you seen 673 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,719 those yet? 674 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 3: It's out? 675 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I came out. 676 00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 3: Damn, that's dark. But I love that. No, do you 677 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:45,880 guys see it? 678 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:52,079 Speaker 1: Yeah? I went to see it yesterday. It's good. I 679 00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:53,719 thought they left. I thought there was some meat on 680 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,960 the bone. I don't want to give anything away, you know, 681 00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:57,159 such a surprise story. 682 00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 3: Is it too out there? An artistic for its own good? 683 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,199 Because that director can do that. 684 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,079 Speaker 1: No. I thought it looked beautiful. 685 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's essentially the same plot 686 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:11,920 line as the original No Sparatus. So yeah, I mean 687 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,079 I enjoyed it. The people I went with did not 688 00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:19,159 seem to enjoy that much. The theater with your family, 689 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,599 Oh yeah, yeah. Try to talk them into Baby Girl. 690 00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:26,280 They weren't having it. We went to a We did 691 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,599 a little double feature of Complete Unknown and uh No 692 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,119 sau great Christmas time movies. 693 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,159 Speaker 1: They're both about the same guy, Christmas, Mister Christmas. Yeah, 694 00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,239 but it's worth a watch, Adam, you should go see it. 695 00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 3: That guy did the Witch, which I think is the 696 00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:44,000 best horror movie in the past fifteen years. 697 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 2: I hard disagree, hard disagree. I don't even think it. 698 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,599 I don't even think The Witch is Agger's best movie. 699 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: That's rare. 700 00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: Really, it's Baby, his third best movie. 701 00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:02,079 Speaker 1: We're an amicable podcast. Ever heard hard disagree before on here? 702 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,039 Speaker 2: Hard disagree. But I also watch a lot of horror. 703 00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: You're an officionado. 704 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. 705 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: My shirt says it for me. 706 00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:15,599 Speaker 2: Just I'm just a man. 707 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: All right, Back to basketball? Anything else? Do you want 708 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,559 to talk about the Thunders, Spurs or Pels trip before 709 00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:30,440 we give our player of the road trip picks for 710 00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:36,519 this week of basketball? Two and one, baby, I would 711 00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:39,679 be perfectly contented with two and one that. Hell, yeah, 712 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,280 don't care who it's again, get. 713 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 2: Greedy, get greedy, all Clippers get greedy. 714 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, let's do it. I'm in all that. 715 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you win the back to back and then you say, hey, 716 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,559 we got CAAUI coming back after this trip. You play everybody, 717 00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:56,760 all the starters. 718 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: Thirty minutes on that last game against the Thunder, no 719 00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:00,199 matter the school or. 720 00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: Two wins before number two comes back. That's what I'm 721 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,199 looking for. 722 00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:16,199 Speaker 1: Okay, and you're talking about Kawhi, Yeah right, one, Yeah, 723 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,400 I mean I think I would. 724 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,079 Speaker 2: He's second fiddle to that at him. 725 00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:27,119 Speaker 1: Sure, I've never heard him on Clippers talk. He's not streaming. Okay, 726 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,679 Player of the road Trip picks, will We've been picking 727 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,719 for you since you've been gone. They've all turned out 728 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,360 really good. 729 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 2: They've all they've all panned out. 730 00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: They were all great. 731 00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:42,559 Speaker 4: Who is your Player of the road Trip for the 732 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,760 games against the Pels, Spurs and the Thunder? 733 00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 2: Am I allowed to pick a viz? How many players 734 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,719 can I not pick? 735 00:38:54,239 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: Dor Pal James harden Right? 736 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 2: Actually he's on a career defining streak right now. 737 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,599 Speaker 1: Though. Yeah. 738 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 2: Anyway, if then if those are the rules, and those 739 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,440 are the rules, man, you. 740 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 1: Are taking that bomb Billa movie Dard. 741 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 2: Okay, your rules, man, Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna 742 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,559 go dj J because I was watching I was watching 743 00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:42,360 the Billy Crystal reaction to that dunk uh from last night, 744 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,760 and I was doing the same thing. So I think, 745 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,800 uh yeah, I think I think he's the player of 746 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,000 the game, and I think I think the official account 747 00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:53,039 is going to have to tweet out that meme after 748 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,159 or that gift after every game. DJJ is obviously the 749 00:39:57,199 --> 00:39:58,559 player of the game for all three. 750 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: You have the Chris cam on your Clippers vision where 751 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,599 it's just anytime Billy crush. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 752 00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:07,159 a good pick. That's why I was gonna be got 753 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:07,519 to pay. 754 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 2: A little extra, but it's worth it. 755 00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: A lot extra, Adam. Who is your player of the 756 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,039 road trip pick? We've gotten Derek Jones junior phenomenal pick. 757 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 3: I'm going to take a risk here. This guy was 758 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,119 out the last game, but it was. 759 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not We could pick him close. 760 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,559 Speaker 3: Kevin Porter Jr. 761 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: Right here, buddy, Number one? 762 00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: Is that number one? 763 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: So KPJ you think is basically the base skill of 764 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,519 being able to initiate an offense. The outside shooting is gonna. 765 00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:51,639 I mean that is a knock to everyone else who 766 00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:53,360 plays point guard on the Clippers. That's not a knock 767 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,320 on kpjy. 768 00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:58,039 Speaker 3: The shooting percentages have been there the last two weeks 769 00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:02,079 for him, now minus hasn't been. But who cares about 770 00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:03,840 winning minutes? Not about that. 771 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,039 Speaker 2: I mean, he he has a chance to, like if 772 00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,880 he could make a big impact in that Pelicans game 773 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,400 and like help give a little bit of lyft on 774 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,000 the second nde of a back to back. I mean, 775 00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:17,559 I like that could be an I love this pick, 776 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,840 but you know, we'll see. But I see it, and 777 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,039 I always love picking. I'm not trading. I'm not trying. 778 00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: No insane. 779 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 2: That's a good one. 780 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 4: No. 781 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 2: I like that one too. 782 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,159 Speaker 1: I like better. I picked first, So I picked when 783 00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:37,360 I picked. Okay, So we got Derek Jones Jr. We 784 00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:41,360 got KPJ. I was gonna pick Zoo, but we can't 785 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,000 because he's got a guard Wemby. Basically, I'm trying to 786 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,519 figure out who's gonna shut Wemby down? 787 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,039 Speaker 2: Does he get to it? Does he get to a 788 00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:50,039 ten game streak of double doubles? 789 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: What's he at now? 790 00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 2: Isn't he at seven? I have no way of checking, Adam. 791 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,719 Isn't big Zoo at seven? 792 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,199 Speaker 1: Yeah? He's in seven. 793 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,039 Speaker 2: Seeing a big opportunity here for the big man. 794 00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: For the big guy. 795 00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 3: Uhs, Though, you can't pick. 796 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:20,519 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Chris Don 797 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,400 because we're going against three teams that have point guards. Well, 798 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,000 if he shuts down whoever's playing point against him against 799 00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:29,480 the Pels, that's great for the Clippers and great for KPJ. 800 00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:33,079 He shuts down CP three whenever they get matched up. 801 00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:36,519 That makes things everything harder for the Spurs and then 802 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,679 the Thunder. I just just win your minutes. So I'm 803 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,360 going Chris Dunn. I think his defense is going to 804 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,280 be very much needed, especially against the Thunder. But I 805 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,599 just think he's gonna annoy all of these teams are 806 00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:51,760 kind of like they're very point guard. We need this 807 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,760 guy to not be locked up, and Chris don can 808 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,639 lock those guys up. It won't be pretty, it will 809 00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:01,199 not be pretty, but he will lock them up, and 810 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,320 he'll make thirty six percent of his threes over the 811 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:13,159 next three games. So like four, that's what those are 812 00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:15,639 my picks, and the Clippers are going to go probably 813 00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:19,679 two and one. Anything else you want to talk about 814 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:24,639 the Clippers or Robert Eggers movies. Before we said these Clippers, 815 00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:26,480 what day is it? Football has been every single day 816 00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:27,760 I've been off of work. I don't even know what 817 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,199 day is Saturday, Saturday, December. 818 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,599 Speaker 3: There's no way you can take the lighthouse over the Witch. 819 00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:37,039 It's so abstracting out there, like come on. 820 00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:40,119 Speaker 2: It's just that it's a I think it's a far 821 00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:44,679 more entertaining movie, which is The Witch is a lot 822 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,440 of style, not a lot of substance. 823 00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:51,280 Speaker 3: What that's describing the lighthouse? 824 00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 2: Nah, there's levels to that. 825 00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:57,679 Speaker 1: Such a great. 826 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 2: It's a lighthouse, man, I. 827 00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:04,079 Speaker 1: Love film arguments because he just be like I saw 828 00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:08,039 it differently. No, not, that's not how I perceived it. 829 00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 2: Old Black Philip, he was on one level full time. 830 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,639 Speaker 1: I will say, you'll go, I will say, no, Rotu, 831 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,239 they left some meat all the boat. You'll know what 832 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,320 it means when you watch it. 833 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 3: There's just because NOAs Rotsu's very thin. 834 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,039 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I thought, yeah, I thought it should have 835 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:29,880 been like the whale. I thought that should have been 836 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,159 a nostraid, very similar to the whale. That would make 837 00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:36,079 it so much scary. All Right, we've done. We're done 838 00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:38,880 debating movies. We hope everyone has a good New Year's 839 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,559 We're gonna probably do some postgame lives at some point 840 00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:47,679 with these upcoming games. Will where can people, you know, 841 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,519 as they're wishing each other well wishes and good tidings 842 00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:53,400 going into twenty twenty five, where can they tell these 843 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,719 acquaintances at the party they're at to listen to this 844 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:56,719 Clippers podcast? 845 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 2: Oh, Yeah, make sure to let everyone at your New 846 00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:02,840 Year's Eve party know that you can hear more about 847 00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:06,000 about the Clippers and you can catch our coverage wherever 848 00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:09,360 you get your podcasts. If you happen to listen over 849 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,960 on Apple, Apple Podcast or Spotify, leave us a little 850 00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:14,320 rating and review. You can comment now on every episode 851 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,480 on Spotify. So that's new. That's exciting. Tell all your friends. 852 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,800 But the best way to check this podcast out is 853 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,679 over on YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast. But hey, 854 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,000 you know, however you listen to, however you watch, you 855 00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:26,880 know we appreciate it. 856 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 1: We absolutely do. It's been wonderful to have the whole 857 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,559 crew back. Before we get out of here, Adam from 858 00:45:33,639 --> 00:45:37,159 La Void one positive thing to send these Clippers fans 859 00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:39,119 into New Year's Eve prep with. 860 00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, I mean, while Will might be a film cashule, 861 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,840 he's not an NBA casual, he's very good with his 862 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:52,320 NBA takes. I'm gonna say this. We had a haggle, 863 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,440 no haggle about the Clippers being a top four seed 864 00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:01,599 in the Western Conference. The year is not even over yet, 865 00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:04,800 and there's a real debate to be had because that's 866 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,400 how good they've been so far. It is feasible, it 867 00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:10,280 is plausible. It's a reasonable conversation to have. They could 868 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,039 be a top four seed. That is incredible. This team 869 00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:17,119 has done huge work. Five games over five hundred right 870 00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:20,360 now without Kawhi Leonard. It is a proud time to 871 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,480 be a member of Clipernation. 872 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it is a proud time to be a 873 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,079 member of Clipernation. We hope everyone has a wonderful end 874 00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:29,519 of twenty twenty four and a fantastic start to twenty 875 00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:31,639 twenty five. Kawhi Leonard might be back. That would be 876 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,840 very cool. Thank you so much for hanging out, reviews 877 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,280 and subscriptions help and as always, let's go clips.