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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Bill Handle Show. And Bill is coming back

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<v Speaker 2>from his holiday vacation on Monday. I did talk to

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<v Speaker 2>him two days ago. He's very excited to come back

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<v Speaker 2>and speak with you all. Wayne Resnick sitting in until

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<v Speaker 2>nine and we're going to I'm going to try to

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<v Speaker 2>synthesize a tremendous amount of information that I've been taking

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<v Speaker 2>in about new things that have been learned visa VI

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<v Speaker 2>the terrorist attack in New Orleans, and also what looks

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<v Speaker 2>now like a car bombing or I guess technically a

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<v Speaker 2>cyber truck bombing in Las Vegas. The death toll in

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans is now at least fifteen, and in Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>there was only one fatality, and it was the person

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<v Speaker 2>in the truck who is apparently the perpetrator of the incident.

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<v Speaker 2>Although several people were injured, luckily those people, it was

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<v Speaker 2>minor injuries for some bystanders that were in the area.

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<v Speaker 2>And the first thing is that the authorities are now

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<v Speaker 2>looking at whether or not there could be a connection

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<v Speaker 2>between these two events. Now There is one connection in

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<v Speaker 2>that both of them involved a vehicle, and in New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, the perpetrator drove the vehicle into the

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<v Speaker 2>crowd of people and then got out and started shooting

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<v Speaker 2>and was killed in a gunfight with the cops. Both

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<v Speaker 2>of those vehicles were rented, and they were both rented

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<v Speaker 2>not from Avis or Hertz or Enterprise. They were rented

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<v Speaker 2>through an app called Turo, which I had not heard of,

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<v Speaker 2>probably because this is not something I would ever do.

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<v Speaker 2>Turo is an app where you can It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like an AIRB and B for cars. You can rent

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<v Speaker 2>a car through Touro from some guy who rents out

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<v Speaker 2>his car. The appeal of it, and if somebody were

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<v Speaker 2>to try to sell you on why Touro is cool,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be because you would be able to rent

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<v Speaker 2>interesting cars. That hurts inn Avis and those places won't

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<v Speaker 2>have maybe old cars, maybe custom cars, but a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the cars are just basic cars. So you're renting

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's car. I imagine some people doing that like Airbnb.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people rent out their own home or part of

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<v Speaker 2>their own home. Other people have properties that are only

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<v Speaker 2>for the purpose of renting them out. And I assume

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<v Speaker 2>they're people who have cars that are only for the

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<v Speaker 2>purpose of renting them out, and other people may be

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<v Speaker 2>rent out the car that they drive when you're not

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<v Speaker 2>renting it. So both of these people finger quotes people

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<v Speaker 2>given what they did, in my opinion, rented through Turo

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<v Speaker 2>and Turo says they are cooperating with the FEDS in

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<v Speaker 2>the investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's another link. Both of them served in the military.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had some information for a day or so about

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<v Speaker 2>the New Orleans suspect, shamsu Den Jabbar.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's believed that the man.

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<v Speaker 2>Who rented the cyber truck and is the perpetrator of

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<v Speaker 2>the explosion, there is somebody named or who was named

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew Littlelsberger, and assuming that is the person that we

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<v Speaker 2>should be talking about, he has a history of serving

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<v Speaker 2>in the military as well. Now they haven't identified the

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<v Speaker 2>person who is behind the wheel of the truck in

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas because, as you might imagine, it's not in very

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<v Speaker 2>good condition. So they're working to do that through forensics.

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<v Speaker 2>But they were able to get the information about who

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<v Speaker 2>rented it, and they were also able to track not

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<v Speaker 2>in real time, but after the fact, the drive of

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<v Speaker 2>the car from Colorado where it was rented through to

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas by because as whoever drove it drove it from

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado to Las Vegas, it passed through many license plate readers,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they're able to get that data and look

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<v Speaker 2>at the path that was taken. The FBI is conducting

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<v Speaker 2>searches and investigations in Colorado Springs. We know that there

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<v Speaker 2>were search warrants served at the place where the New

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans perpetrator was staying in New Orleans, and so both

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<v Speaker 2>of these Both of these events have a lot in common,

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<v Speaker 2>both in terms of how the investigations are being being handled.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both in kind of the same stages of investigation,

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<v Speaker 2>and they both involve people who served in the military,

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<v Speaker 2>both of them for many many years. Beyond that, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if there are any other similarities, and by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, similarities obviously are not the same as connections.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea that possibly these two people knew each other

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<v Speaker 2>in some way and agreed to do different types of

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<v Speaker 2>terror attacks in different parts of the country seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me right now, seems far fetched, But I do think this.

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<v Speaker 2>They're throwing everything they can at it, and they usually

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<v Speaker 2>are pretty successful at coming up with additional information at

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<v Speaker 2>this stage of an investigation, So obviously KFI is keeping

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<v Speaker 2>an eye on this. Anything that comes out that's relevant,

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<v Speaker 2>we will bring it to you as soon as it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think Michelle a little bit later in the show,

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<v Speaker 2>we can revisit this again through the prism of where

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<v Speaker 2>did the authorities go wrong in trying to prevent what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in New Orleans? And was there anything they did wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>And was there anything they could have done? But for now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's move on to some other things that are going

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<v Speaker 2>on in the world. And what are we going to

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<v Speaker 2>do with this entire generation of people who are not

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<v Speaker 2>growing up? Who am I talking about? I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the people in their thirties man. Today, let me start

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<v Speaker 2>it differently. If you look at film and photographs of

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<v Speaker 2>people who were in their thirties back in say the

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<v Speaker 2>forties and the fifties and even the sixties, they all

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<v Speaker 2>look old as dirt.

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<v Speaker 1>They look old.

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<v Speaker 2>There they are in their house with their wife or husband, kids,

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<v Speaker 2>the car. And if I showed you photos of people

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<v Speaker 2>from the forties and the fifties and I said how

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<v Speaker 2>old are these people? I guarantee you because this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I used to do till I learned better. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, I don't know that guy's forty five, No,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like thirty two. I really do believe that physically

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<v Speaker 2>we have changed in terms of how aged we look.

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<v Speaker 2>But so today now, if you're in your thirties, you

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<v Speaker 2>really maybe have never looked less like a grown up.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a physical manifestation of the phenomenon that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to tell you about.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I honestly believe people are looking younger, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's because of the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they're living younger, but maybe there's a connection. Americans in

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<v Speaker 2>their thirties are not hitting the three big milestones of

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<v Speaker 2>being a grown up adult, owning a home, getting married,

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<v Speaker 2>pounded out the babies, and some of them are doing

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<v Speaker 2>that on purpose. There is a big swing away from

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<v Speaker 2>in particular marriage and having children. The percentage of Americans

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<v Speaker 2>in their thirties now who are not married is significantly

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<v Speaker 2>higher than it was even twenty years ago. One third

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<v Speaker 2>of today's young adults will never ever get married. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>at least that's what the Institute for Family Studies says.

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<v Speaker 2>They're a conservative thing tank, and if you go back,

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<v Speaker 2>say twenty years, maybe fifteen percent say I'll never be married.

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<v Speaker 2>The projection was fifteen percent of people will never get married.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk to some adults who don't have kids. Will

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<v Speaker 2>you have kids? Well, it used to be back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen, thirty seven percent of childless adults who are

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<v Speaker 2>under fifty, You can't. It's not fair to ask people

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<v Speaker 2>who are over fifty who don't have kids, do you

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<v Speaker 2>think you're gonna have kids? Because there's no way. But

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<v Speaker 2>like thirty five year old, you don't have kids yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna have kids? And in twenty eighteen it

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<v Speaker 2>was already sizable, it was about a third of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and now it's almost fifty percent, and that's according to

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<v Speaker 2>the Pew Research Center. And a lot of it is

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<v Speaker 2>by choice, is people don't value marriage anymore, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to have kids. But even the choice there, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>the choice not to want to have kids, is not

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent a free choice. Because the other thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's going on is some of these aspects of the

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<v Speaker 2>American dream of being an adult is not possible. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a choice. That's the home ownership part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right it's a crazy housing market right now, it has

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<v Speaker 2>been for a while, is probably going to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>be for a long time. And today home ownership is

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<v Speaker 2>out of reach for a much bigger percentage of people

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<v Speaker 2>in their thirties than ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a time in this country where everybody their

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<v Speaker 2>mid thirties, almost everybody who wanted to buy a house

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<v Speaker 2>bought a house. It really wasn't I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say it this way, but it wasn't that.

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<v Speaker 1>Big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>It was reasonably affordable to buy a house anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, please show me the zip codes in this

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<v Speaker 2>country where it's reasonably affordable to buy a house.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Because although some people think the economy sucks, and some

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<v Speaker 2>people think that like people in their thirties now simply

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the same income or don't have the same

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<v Speaker 2>financial wherewithal as people in the thirties and previous generations.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact is, median wages for full time workers are

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<v Speaker 2>up sixteen percent since two thousand, and the wealth the

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<v Speaker 2>wealth of people in their thirties has gone up sixty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent between nineteen eighty nine and twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>I think is the most recent numbers on that.

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<v Speaker 2>So in fact, the current thirty year olds are in

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<v Speaker 2>a better financial condition on average. Now, now the aside,

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<v Speaker 2>these are statistics, and we're talking about averages and medians.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously there are a lot of people in their

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<v Speaker 2>thirties who fall below that and are struggling even by

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<v Speaker 2>objective economic standards. But it also means that they're thirty

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<v Speaker 2>year olds who are doing even better than that. But

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is, the attitude is different. This has been

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<v Speaker 2>an ongoing thing. It was really highlighted during the election

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<v Speaker 2>that so many people have a dimmer view of the

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<v Speaker 2>economy than the actual economy would warrant, and that's true

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<v Speaker 2>amongst the people in their thirties. Only twenty one percent

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<v Speaker 2>of adults in their thirties said the overall economy was

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<v Speaker 2>good or excellent last year, but by objective measures it

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>When you ask them a more.

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<v Speaker 2>Grandiose question, like you know what you think you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to quote achieve the American dream, which is very vague

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<v Speaker 2>and subjective, but they do ask people that, and people

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<v Speaker 2>in their thirties are far less likely than people in

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<v Speaker 2>their fifties or sixties to say that it's still a possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a Wall Street Journal poll just in July.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a pessimism. A lot of people think they're

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<v Speaker 2>worse off than they objectively are are, and their view

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<v Speaker 2>of the future is more pessimistic than objective facts might support.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's the housing thing. I really do

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<v Speaker 2>believe this, because the housing thing objectively is bad. That

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<v Speaker 2>cannot be sugarcoated. There's no statistics I could give you

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<v Speaker 2>to try to then say, see, the housing situation's not

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<v Speaker 2>as bad as you think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>The housing situation really is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know some people who are younger than me,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is a big source of frustration and malaise

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<v Speaker 2>that they cannot afford a home. And I think there

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people in their thirties that are

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<v Speaker 2>preoccupied and I'm not saying wrongly, so they're preoccupied with

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<v Speaker 2>the true objective reality that they simply cannot afford a home.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not their fault. It's the housing market.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you can't do that, and it's really important

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the core of stability as an adult, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people used to you would buy a house first

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening is so many younger people they're saying, I

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<v Speaker 2>They don't realize that that's the equation that they're making

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<v Speaker 2>in their head. But that's what's going on, and that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>And the pandemic didn't help. By the way, Hey cameo

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<v Speaker 2>appearance by the pandemic in this topic because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of young people move back home, kind of regressing in

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<v Speaker 2>there's no reason you shouldn't be able to buy a house.

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<v Speaker 1>The economics are making it impossible. And so.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is going to continue where

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what's happening right now. Let's get into this.

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<v Speaker 2>President elect Donald Trump has promised he's going to crack

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<v Speaker 1>I am so not interested in.

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<v Speaker 2>Arguing about whether he should or whether he shouldn't, or

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<v Speaker 2>is he a jerk, or is he this you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the smartest man in America for finally dealing with this problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Should he.

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<v Speaker 2>Is irrelevant if he can't. So let's look practically some

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<v Speaker 2>of the hurdles that are in place to see what

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<v Speaker 2>he's up against. Let's go here we go. Number one,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a massive backlog in the immigration courts.

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<v Speaker 1>The way the law works now, with few exceptions.

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<v Speaker 2>Immigrants here illegally cannot be deported without a hearing an

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<v Speaker 2>immigration court. This gives them a chance to ask for

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<v Speaker 2>asylum or maybe another way to stay in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's required by law. There are some exceptions, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're not relevant to the big discussion here. The courts

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<v Speaker 2>are so backlogged that today somebody who gets a hearing

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<v Speaker 2>scheduled will be expected to come to their hearing in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty eight or twenty twenty nine. Yeah, that's how

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<v Speaker 2>far backed up the courts are. Now, you get a

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<v Speaker 2>hearing date, and you are given a work permit, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can find employment in the US legally and President

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<v Speaker 2>elect Trump and the people close to him say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, that's not a good idea, because this

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<v Speaker 2>is why, this is why so many people are coming

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<v Speaker 2>to the border, because they know that even if at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the process they don't get to stay

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<v Speaker 2>that for years, they can be here and work. So

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<v Speaker 2>what do we have to do to solve this problem. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>right now, there's about five hundred immigration judges. And immigration

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<v Speaker 2>judges are not like Article three federal judges. They are

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<v Speaker 2>they really are employees and they do have to follow directives.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's about five hundred of them. So they're various

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<v Speaker 2>experts that have done projections and calculations, and they say

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<v Speaker 2>Congress will have to hire five thousand more immigration judges.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not like we have five hundred and we

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<v Speaker 2>need six fifty. That's not what's going on here. Massive

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<v Speaker 2>ten times as many immigration judges as we have. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this raises a question in my mind, particularly as to

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you got to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Places for them to sit and conduct hearings, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to have a build out of some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of facilities. It's a ton of money at a time

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<v Speaker 2>when we continue to run deficits, when the debt ceiling

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<v Speaker 2>continues to be a political football, and when an administration

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<v Speaker 2>is coming in that's all Republican in the White House

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<v Speaker 2>and the Senate and the Congress, and we don't typically

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<v Speaker 2>think of that kind of a government as being a

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<v Speaker 2>let's spend like crazy kind of a government. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>something else that can be done about the backlog? If

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<v Speaker 2>we aren't gonna spend all this money to hire ten

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<v Speaker 2>times as many judges, Well, you could. Here's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>they could do. You could shuffle around whose hearings happen first.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mostly a first come, first serve thing right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But what you could do is you could say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who shows up here from let's just say El Salvador,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna get priority. They're gonna get the earliest hearings,

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<v Speaker 2>and somebody who comes in from somewhere else they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>wait even longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you could do this. I would say, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea. Here.

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<v Speaker 2>People who show up and they have criminal records, they

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<v Speaker 2>get a hearing absolutely as soon as possible. They move

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<v Speaker 2>to the front of the line. Because those are people

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<v Speaker 2>that probably were not gonna let stay. Also, another thing

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<v Speaker 2>you could do is tweak the laws and procedures so

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<v Speaker 2>that when you get to the final hearing stage, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't delay it anymore. What will happen sometimes is people

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<v Speaker 2>wait years for a hearing and then they show up

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<v Speaker 2>and they go blah blah blah a hearing, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they go, all right, we need one more hearing, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they keep delaying it, and judges allow the person

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<v Speaker 2>to delay their final hearing. Usually it's because they say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I need a lawyer for my final hearing. I need

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<v Speaker 2>more time to find it. If you made it a

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<v Speaker 2>little tougher to do that, that would shorten the timeline

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<v Speaker 2>and that would clear the backlog sooner.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless there's a rapid infusion of money to increase the

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<v Speaker 2>immigration judge situation by a factor of ten, or the

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<v Speaker 2>laws are changed, most of the people who came here

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<v Speaker 2>illegally while Biden was president will not be legally able

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<v Speaker 2>to be deported until after Donald Trump's second term. There's

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<v Speaker 2>also not enough ice agents. There's another problem. There's about

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<v Speaker 2>six thousand of them right now. They have money to

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<v Speaker 2>keep in custody about forty thousand immigrants at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>They do not have the planes, the airplanes that they

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<v Speaker 2>would need to deport millions of people back to their

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<v Speaker 2>home countries. Now, you know, the Republicans can figure out

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<v Speaker 2>some ways to free up some money for.

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<v Speaker 1>All of this.

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<v Speaker 2>And Trump says he'll declare a national emergency that will

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<v Speaker 2>unlock some money almost right away from Pentagon's budget that

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<v Speaker 2>could be used for certain things. But the problem is

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<v Speaker 2>things have changed now. One of the things that Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump likes to talk about is in the fifties, when

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<v Speaker 2>Eisenhower was president, there was a mass deportation program, and

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<v Speaker 2>by the standards of trying to mass deport a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of people, it was a success.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>When Eisenhower was president, pretty much every single person that

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<v Speaker 2>they were deporting was from Mexico, so they were sending

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<v Speaker 2>everybody to the same place right over the border. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not the case anymore. Yes, sure a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are from Mexico, but they're from China, and they're from Uzbekistan,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're from India, and they're from I don't know, Mauritania.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can't just push them back across the border,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't load up planes for short flights.

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<v Speaker 1>Boom, now you're back.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to coordinate hundreds of flights to different countries,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're fighting with the governments of those countries about

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<v Speaker 2>when or will they receive those flights. It's way more

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<v Speaker 2>complicated the logistics of it, and that can only be

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<v Speaker 2>solved with more money. Money for planes, money for logistics, people, money, money, money.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the big hurdles.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some other issues, like trying to end birthrights citizenship,

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<v Speaker 2>which will have to amend the Constitution. But the fact

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<v Speaker 2>of the matter is the amount of money that is

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<v Speaker 2>necessary to do this within the current legal framework is

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<v Speaker 2>beyond the reach of the United States government right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not I don't think it's going to be so much.

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<v Speaker 2>How much money can they come up with for this effort.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna be how much of the laws

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<v Speaker 2>can they get changed?

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Every five years, the government revises the US dietary guidelines

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<v Speaker 2>and they're in the process of doing it again. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a huge controversy about what to say about drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for a long time, the studies would come out,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd talk about them, and they all said essentially the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Excessive drinking is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, that's the one thing about drinking for

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<v Speaker 2>which there is no legitimate counter argument. Excessive drinking, heavy

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<v Speaker 2>drinking is bad, period, full stop. There's no way to

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<v Speaker 2>rehabild take that. But the studies would keep saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>but drinking moderately is actually better than not drinking at all.

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<v Speaker 2>The number of people who started drinking red wine, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>because of the studies that said it's good for your

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<v Speaker 2>heart health. But then more recently, agencies like the World

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<v Speaker 2>Health Organization and Great Britain and some other groups are

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<v Speaker 2>saying no, our evidence shows that no amount of drinking

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<v Speaker 2>is good, that even literally one drop of alcohol hurts you,

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<v Speaker 2>and that alcohol in any amount is highly correlated with

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<v Speaker 2>various cancers, and that there is no safe amount of alcohol. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you have these two schools. Now, there's one school that

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<v Speaker 2>believes that moderate drinking is actually beneficial and another group

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<v Speaker 2>that says there's no such thing as beneficial drinking of.

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<v Speaker 1>Alcohol, period.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're at war over what's going to go into

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<v Speaker 2>these guidelines. So, in an unprecedented move, the government has

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<v Speaker 2>commissioned two different studies to help it decide what they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to say about drinking and these guidelines.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not usually what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually they just review the existing research and then they

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<v Speaker 2>decide what to do. But there's such controversy now that

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<v Speaker 2>they want two different groups of people to weigh in,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of these groups. There was about one point

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<v Speaker 2>three million dollars I believe. I don't have the number

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<v Speaker 2>written from a face, but I think it was about

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<v Speaker 2>one point three million dollars that Congress gave to the

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<v Speaker 2>National Academies to put together a panel to look at

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<v Speaker 2>this issue and come up with the report. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the National Academies got the money and they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>there's these two people at Harvard. We should have them

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<v Speaker 2>be on the panel. But the problem is those two

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<v Speaker 2>people their research kept saying moderate alcohol consumption is good.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a big outcry and they said, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>we won't use them, they're too controversial. So instead they

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<v Speaker 2>put on two other people from Harvard who don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Say moderate drinking is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>However, some of their research says there is a link

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<v Speaker 2>between some moderate drinking and a reduced risk of cardiovascular disease.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe that word came out of my mouth

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<v Speaker 2>that way, So not as bad as the first two,

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<v Speaker 2>but not great. And of these four people, at least

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<v Speaker 2>three of them, at some point in their research got

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<v Speaker 2>funding from the alcohol industry, which is really what's on

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<v Speaker 2>underneath all of this. Do you think the alcohol industry

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<v Speaker 2>wants the United States government to tell everybody that even.

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<v Speaker 1>One drink is harmful?

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<v Speaker 2>No, they do not, And so do they fund studies

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<v Speaker 2>that they hope wink wink will be favorable in some way? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the people who will come up with

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<v Speaker 2>the new guidelines that it says something nice about drinking alcohol?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's going to be another study by a different

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<v Speaker 2>group of people who don't seem to have any connections

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<v Speaker 2>to the alcohol industry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a government committee.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember this other thing is funded by the government, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's made up of people who aren't part of the government.

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<v Speaker 2>This second report is a government committee, and it's called

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<v Speaker 2>the Interagency Coordinating Committee on the Prevention of Underage Drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>How complicated has our government become? I could probably spend

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<v Speaker 2>four straight hours on KFI reading you the names of

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<v Speaker 2>government agencies and committees that you've never heard of before.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to do it. Don't worry. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>saying that's how complicated and bloated government has become. So

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<v Speaker 2>in any event, it's the first time that two separate

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<v Speaker 2>reports have been commissioned, and you're probably going to get

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<v Speaker 2>to competing conclusions in these reports, and then they'll decide

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<v Speaker 2>what to do with the guidelines.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Way it won't matter because in five years they'll redo

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<v Speaker 2>it again, and five years after that again. Look in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years, who knows what we might learn. The guidelines

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<v Speaker 2>might be you should rub alcohol into your eyeballs ten

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<v Speaker 2>times a day because we found out it increases is

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<v Speaker 2>your IQ by twenty points. But that's not happening yet.

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