Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all agies.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Conspiracy Castle. I am your conspiracy asshole
Speaker 1: prime Time nine and nine Alex Dine and we are
Speaker 1: on the grind all the time, and we have a
Speaker 1: very lovely guest. We have the one the only, William
Speaker 1: Ramsey of William Ramsey Investigates, coming back to the Castle
Speaker 1: to break down the predictive programming and the symbolism behind
Speaker 1: nine to eleven. So you know it's going to be
Speaker 1: a hot and heavy episode like always. So what do
Speaker 1: we always say, We've got to keep our mind open.
Speaker 1: We can't have a closed mind with these intense subjects
Speaker 1: because the closed mind is not going to be able
Speaker 1: to understand a lot of the intense subjects that we're handling.
Speaker 1: So I just want to say for your mind and
Speaker 1: the rest will follow type situation. So, with no further ado, William,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Conspiracy Castle. Thank you for coming back,
Speaker 1: my friend. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2: Thanks for having first to be with you again.
Speaker 1: Well, it's always a pleasure, William, and I know you've
Speaker 1: done so much research and you really are one of
Speaker 1: the best when it comes to like decoding and kind
Speaker 1: of seeing all the knick knacks and all the bull
Speaker 1: crap and that they're doing because a lot of the
Speaker 1: problem is we're not you and I necessarily, but the
Speaker 1: majority of people are sheep that just want to be told,
Speaker 1: you know what to do, and they don't want to
Speaker 1: look at any of this stuff for themselves. So that's
Speaker 1: why I respect you is you don't take the butcher's
Speaker 1: word for it. You are going to do the research yourself.
Speaker 1: And so tell me what got you so interested in
Speaker 1: nine to eleven research?
Speaker 2: Willam Well, I mean, I think I spent time in
Speaker 2: d C from ninety five to ninety eight and or
Speaker 2: was there kind of saw much different reality than what
Speaker 2: was portrayed on the media. So that was really kind
Speaker 2: of when I might distrust or the scales fell from
Speaker 2: my eyes where I really distrusted the media and I
Speaker 2: saw that the political parties really had their tendrils into
Speaker 2: the media. So I researched stuff myself. Nine to eleven happened,
Speaker 2: and I really believed the cover story from the beginning,
Speaker 2: and probably two or three years later I kind of
Speaker 2: started realizing there was real problems with the story and
Speaker 2: that really set me off, Like once at probably like
Speaker 2: two thousand and four was when I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: if this is fake, I really got to figure this out.
Speaker 2: So I started reading everything. There were other kind of
Speaker 2: dissidents who talked about nine to eleven, and so I
Speaker 2: read them, and I think it was Loose Change came out,
Speaker 2: which was a kind of important documentary. Remember the year
Speaker 2: that that came out, But it seems like that was
Speaker 2: one of the things that I watched.
Speaker 1: I think it came out like four years after twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen or twenty fifteen, or maybe even sooner, but that
Speaker 1: was the most monumental documentary when it comes to nine
Speaker 1: to eleven. Sorry, I just want to agreed.
Speaker 2: No, I thought it was earlier than that, but.
Speaker 1: Maybe I might have been. It might have been twenty here,
Speaker 1: let me find out the exact date, Okay.
Speaker 2: But I would recommend that as an intro to kind
Speaker 2: of nine to eleven and all the problems with it.
Speaker 2: But once you've kind of realized that there's problems that
Speaker 2: you gotta kind of figure out.
Speaker 1: Well, it came out in two thousand and five, but
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, yeah, that's right, that does make sense.
Speaker 1: But I guess the latest edit was, you know, they've
Speaker 1: re edited and recut it. But no, that is everybody
Speaker 1: needs to go see Loose Change because the Steph Wayman
Speaker 1: and I are going to talk about. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: Loose Change is one hundred percent accurate, but it is
Speaker 1: the best depiction and description of the events that took
Speaker 1: place on September left and the events that took before
Speaker 1: and after the events.
Speaker 2: And one of the real kind of would say people
Speaker 2: who research it from an academic back was David Ray Griffin.
Speaker 2: So that was what I was reading too, and he's
Speaker 2: written a number of books about nine to eleven and
Speaker 2: the kind of fallacies and real problems with that.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: So speaking of David Ray though, because he was with
Speaker 1: the guy that opened up Richard Gage. But one one
Speaker 1: guy you said that you always looked up to is
Speaker 1: Dave McGowan, and that yeah, you said, he was one
Speaker 1: of the few guys that actually on the day of
Speaker 1: or right around he was actually saying that it was
Speaker 1: you know, some sort of yeah fake.
Speaker 2: So it was him and Bill Cooper really were the
Speaker 2: two prominent public people that I mean, maybe Alex Jones did,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I definitely remember McGowan and Bill
Speaker 2: Cooper and Bill Cooper was killed like two months after
Speaker 2: nine eleven. I don't think it was much longer.
Speaker 1: But under the circumstances the way Bill Kober died, I
Speaker 1: mean he was shocked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, almost kind of like an operation to get him,
Speaker 2: like he was cantankerous. But I think that they some
Speaker 2: thing happened where it was at his property, so they
Speaker 2: kind of went after him. I think he only had
Speaker 2: one leg, so he wasn't that I don't know if
Speaker 2: he was really that lethal or dangerous, but maybe I
Speaker 2: don't know. He was definitely on somebody's radar. And I
Speaker 2: think his research at least that mystery Babylon really holds
Speaker 2: up till today. That work that he did on that,
Speaker 2: that was really he was really kind of one of
Speaker 2: like really one of the early conspiracy researcher for Behold
Speaker 2: Appale Horse was book that was very popular. So that
Speaker 2: was kind of my nine to eleven. And so once
Speaker 2: I changed, once I really once I realized I'd been
Speaker 2: bamboozled that bad, I think that really kind of expired
Speaker 2: me to really go back and try to figure out
Speaker 2: what happened. Who were these people? Who are the bushes,
Speaker 2: what's the advantage, who benefits, right, qui bono is like
Speaker 2: the famous Latin phrase, it's who benefits from this, because
Speaker 2: it really wasn't the terrorists. It certainly wasn't Sadama san
Speaker 2: or some of these people. So all these wars were
Speaker 2: really kind of the war in Afghanistan, which incredibly is
Speaker 2: still going on today in Iraq, all came out of
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. So you have to see this as
Speaker 2: a very pivotal event. And so if you I think
Speaker 2: that the way I saw it was that if something
Speaker 2: if it was really that much of a time frame,
Speaker 2: it's very curious even the date that had happened really
Speaker 2: to September eleventh, two thousand and one, right at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the new millennium. So it's almost like a
Speaker 2: doorway into a new world in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: And I think that's really was the intent of it
Speaker 2: was really almost a millennial change from one era to
Speaker 2: the next, that we're in a post nine to eleven world.
Speaker 2: So then you realize how if somebody crafted that event,
Speaker 2: they really thought about it and really wanted to use
Speaker 2: that to their advantage, and so then you kind of
Speaker 2: just kind of put things together. And I kept seeing
Speaker 2: these elevens that were I mean, the day is the eleven,
Speaker 2: the plane numbers the eleven, and you just see this
Speaker 2: numerology there, Well, why is it there? I had read something.
Speaker 2: There was a guy who's passed away now and his
Speaker 2: name was Captain May and he read something called or
Speaker 2: ran something. I think he was in Texas too, ran
Speaker 2: something called ghost Troops. So he was trying to really
Speaker 2: understand what was going on with false flight terror that
Speaker 2: happened after nine to eleven. So he was really writing
Speaker 2: and researching that, and he said he wrote an article
Speaker 2: called Satan's Code, and he just noticed all these elevens.
Speaker 2: He's like, I was, oh, he's right, these elevens are there.
Speaker 2: He didn't quite get the meaning as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2: So then I kept reading, and then I've read really
Speaker 2: what cracked it was? So I was reading something else
Speaker 2: about Crowley and his numbers numerology. So then I really
Speaker 2: started reading and I was like, oh my gosh, Crowley's
Speaker 2: master numbers eleven. You see the ninety three is Crowley's
Speaker 2: number seventy seven.
Speaker 1: And then but go back real quick, why why did
Speaker 1: Skybury ketch crazy? What is the eleven? Though? That's so important.
Speaker 1: I know that's a satanic number, but I forget why
Speaker 1: did Alex Crowley like that number, because there's some sort
Speaker 1: of inverted What was that?
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of reasons. It's like a prime
Speaker 2: number for him, but it goes back even before him.
Speaker 2: It really was. There was a group that he was
Speaker 2: involved with that was involved in all kinds of modern
Speaker 2: kind of magic called the Golden Dawn, and one of
Speaker 2: the founders of the Golden Dawn had this book called,
Speaker 2: I can't remember the exact tide book their Values, and
Speaker 2: eleven was kind of a number of destruction and death
Speaker 2: and that was kind of a global number, so that
Speaker 2: was something that this person had researched. It's in my
Speaker 2: book Profit of Evil, So that was an important.
Speaker 1: The reason I ask is what's so important about nine
Speaker 1: to eleven, Like, well, why is that? You know, why
Speaker 1: do they like that nine? And why did they use
Speaker 1: it for the emergency number? Why? Why? Why do you think?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that there's a deeper occult meaning I
Speaker 2: think that's really it. And so really the eleven is
Speaker 2: important for a variety of reasons. It's coming together of
Speaker 2: the hexagram, which represents the microcosm, and then the macrocosm
Speaker 2: is the hexagram, right, so coming together that's an eleven.
Speaker 2: So that's really kind of what the magicians are trying
Speaker 2: to do, is bring together the microcosm and the macrocosm
Speaker 2: in themselves. So it's really a magical number. And then
Speaker 2: Crowley had this event and so he said, in Egypt
Speaker 2: in nineteen oh four, he received this book called the
Speaker 2: Book of the Law. And in that book, this being,
Speaker 2: who he said was a wass aiwaz dictated book to
Speaker 2: him over three days.
Speaker 1: And did I just hear a dial up? Modem? I
Speaker 1: haven't heard that noise in forever? Was that on your
Speaker 1: aid for me? Oh? Well, I could have sworn maybe
Speaker 1: I just hearing. I could have sworn. I thought I
Speaker 1: heard a dial of noise.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just maybe it's something else.
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, Sorry, I that would have been cool.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that sound. Sorry.
Speaker 2: Well, he had this book. So in that book it's
Speaker 2: said like eleven is a prime number. It says, like
Speaker 2: this being dictated to him, eleven is our number and
Speaker 2: the number of us. And so he took that book
Speaker 2: and formulated into his religion he called Balima, and Filima
Speaker 2: is a Greek translate. Greek word translates to will, so
Speaker 2: it's individual will.
Speaker 1: Do what thou will, right, So that's later.
Speaker 2: And so then he created this axiom, do what thou
Speaker 2: will should be the whole of the law. And that's
Speaker 2: actually an eleven letter phrase, right, So eleven words, eleven syllables,
Speaker 2: do what that will should be the whole of the law.
Speaker 2: So he's concentrating on this number and integrating it into
Speaker 2: his religion, so his dates and things like that. So
Speaker 2: Thalima is really his really and so then you see this,
Speaker 2: and then Cruelly was into something called jamatrio, which is
Speaker 2: a part of the Kabbala where you take words and
Speaker 2: you find their numerical value. So each letter has a
Speaker 2: number and you add those numbers together. What he did
Speaker 2: in his calculations is he discovered that the Greek words
Speaker 2: the lima and agape will in love add up to
Speaker 2: ninety three. So that became another very important number in
Speaker 2: his religion. And then seventy seven was also kind of
Speaker 2: his seven was like a power number, but seventy seven
Speaker 2: was his symbol for what he called Babylon ba Ble.
Speaker 2: He spelled it that way for Kabalic reasons. But in
Speaker 2: his religion, you have the units. He actually stole or
Speaker 2: lifted ideas from the Book of Revelation. So you have
Speaker 2: the Lady Babylon writing the Beast, and so they.
Speaker 4: Have this he have this ritual.
Speaker 1: Well, then that's what I say. They take the Bible
Speaker 1: and they inverted, right, they just do the obviously, So
Speaker 1: what is the ritual?
Speaker 2: So it's called the marriage of the of the scarlet
Speaker 2: Woman and the Beast. So he actually integrated that into
Speaker 2: his religion. He kind of had these scarlet women. He
Speaker 2: went referenced himself as the beast. But I'm just going
Speaker 2: to Newmark Corley's numerology. And then one seventy five was
Speaker 2: a ritual that he did as a god that you adore.
Speaker 2: So it's a specific kind of uh uh, what do
Speaker 2: you call ritual that he had. And that's I think
Speaker 2: where those numbers were all there in the nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: So the four planes are flight eleven, seventy seven, ninety three,
Speaker 2: one seventy five. The first plane to hit the twin
Speaker 2: towers wasn't a flight eleven, and then it was I
Speaker 2: think one.
Speaker 1: Seventy five was I didn't even think about that Flight eleven.
Speaker 1: What are the chances that. I mean, that's a very
Speaker 1: it's that you never That's just I've never been on
Speaker 1: a flight eleven. Usually it's a three number flight. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's obvious two number flights, but that's just
Speaker 1: kind of a weird coincidence that on nine eleven. I know,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's not a coincident. I mean,
Speaker 1: but I love flight eleven on nine to eleven it too,
Speaker 1: it's too weird.
Speaker 2: Well, then, how many stories is the Twin Towers, right,
Speaker 2: it's one hundred and ten stories have eleven and even
Speaker 2: the the even Crowley said that the numbers of eleven
Speaker 2: were like an idiogram, and what he meant by that
Speaker 2: is that the two ones represented opposites, right, So you
Speaker 2: have these opposites coming together in the in kind of
Speaker 2: magical religion. And so you have literally the Twin Towers,
Speaker 2: these very remarkable, strange buildings that were built in New
Speaker 2: York City starting in the sixties that are really up
Speaker 2: against the skyline, a giant ideogram and an eleven, right,
Speaker 2: And if you look at those Twin Towers, they don't
Speaker 2: really quite fit in with the skyline, you notice, right, So.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that the twin towers are a huge eleven
Speaker 1: in the sky. There's no way you could ever, you know, say,
Speaker 1: with something else. And it was in the downtown area
Speaker 1: of Manhattan, so it was extra tall, like the buildings
Speaker 1: I guess weren't as intil you know, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that you are show right. It sticks out even in
Speaker 1: a building of New York, the tallest buildings in the world,
Speaker 1: the World Trade Center, still stuck out like a sore thumb.
Speaker 2: No, and the new building is even strange too. But
Speaker 2: those were also known as the two Rockefeller brothers. They
Speaker 2: were known as Nelson and David.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, so said that they literally when they're talking
Speaker 1: about it. The buildings were named you know, that was
Speaker 1: their co coach.
Speaker 2: That was their nickname. So that was the real incentive, really,
Speaker 2: the real incentive for those buildings, and the U N
Speaker 2: was the Rockefeller family, right, So it was on land
Speaker 2: that the Rockefeller family don't donated. That's not a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2: So the UN building used to be I think a stockade.
Speaker 2: It used to be an animal husbandry type thing, and
Speaker 2: that the Rockefellers bought it and built it and then
Speaker 2: in there is the what Bill Cooper talked about the
Speaker 2: meditation room, which has the square of Saturn or whatever
Speaker 2: in there and all kinds of cold stuff.
Speaker 1: So there has to be a ceremonial or you know,
Speaker 1: some sort of ceremony around. These people love ceremonies and rituals.
Speaker 2: That's religion.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: If look at the Rockefeller family going back, look at
Speaker 2: Rock what is it Rockefeller Plaza where they have the
Speaker 2: gilded statue of Prometheus. That's all kind of Blovotsky stuff
Speaker 2: that shows that that family's religion really is Greek mythology, faultism.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not Christianity, an exemple or.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Tell me, because
Speaker 1: I've seen that gold statue, what is the story behind
Speaker 1: the Prometheus? Gold said? What's the symbolism behind that?
Speaker 2: So Prometheus, right, was the Titan that gave fire to humanity. Right,
Speaker 2: So you see Prometheus has the Promethean torch, so he
Speaker 2: brought light to humanity. So it's a symbol of Lucifer,
Speaker 2: the light bringer. Right. So that's that's why the Prometheus
Speaker 2: is like an exemple or Satan. And if you look
Speaker 2: at that, that statue in Rockefeller Plaza. I forgot what
Speaker 2: the actual quote was, but it says, through the power
Speaker 2: of Prometheus, I can do great things. It's very creepy
Speaker 2: and it's in the backdrop of many.
Speaker 1: It's everything that Today show. You show that, dude, you
Speaker 1: see that gold statue on show. I mean it's thirty
Speaker 1: Rockefeller Center. I know that exactly what it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's at thirty Rock and that's where they have the
Speaker 1: ice skating rink. So that's where it's so famous. Every
Speaker 1: Christmas thing you see the pro and that's they love
Speaker 1: to make Christmas a pagan his thing. And that's funny
Speaker 1: because that's it. Now they have a huge Black Lives
Speaker 1: Matter statue there that's getting everybody's getting mad at that
Speaker 1: because it's like an African statue of the heads all big.
Speaker 1: So you're so you're one hundred percent correct that the
Speaker 1: ceremony and symbolism is really all Rockefellers.
Speaker 2: So you have to go back to the Rockefellers. It's
Speaker 2: really and really the Bushes are kind of were fronts
Speaker 2: for the Rockefeller family if you go back through two
Speaker 2: thousand and.
Speaker 1: Eight, even like Prescott, even like Prescott Bush, it goes
Speaker 1: there there, they're always right.
Speaker 2: So the family, the Prescott is the father who worked
Speaker 2: for I think Avall Airmen. So they worked at Brown.
Speaker 2: They were in a big financial company, right, so they were,
Speaker 2: but they were it would be called like a white
Speaker 2: shoe firm. So it was all kind of very wealthy
Speaker 2: wasp types, Eastern East Coast Mandarin elites, Brahmins, you know what.
Speaker 2: They would call.
Speaker 1: Gc Wasser dead, the white Anglo Saxon person.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a whole other story.
Speaker 1: Sorry, but that's fine. It's crazy to think. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's always gonna be some wash. But basically that idea
Speaker 1: is like Dad, I think, I'm.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a whole nother show.
Speaker 1: That's a whole nother show.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Well, if.
Speaker 2: You mean you want to get into nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: who's really behind it and what the bushes are and all.
Speaker 1: That stuff, Well that's what I think we can we
Speaker 1: can get back.
Speaker 2: From reading Boliemian Grove.
Speaker 1: William Who do you think is involved? Because I definitely
Speaker 1: believe America is a false, slight attack, but I also
Speaker 1: believe you have to look at Israel and Saudi Arabia
Speaker 1: and have to point a big. I mean they were
Speaker 1: complicit one thousand percent and benefited greatly.
Speaker 2: I mean gop, I mean like David Ray Griffin you
Speaker 2: talk about he called his book the New Pearl Harbor,
Speaker 2: but he got that from the council was a new
Speaker 2: American centric council.
Speaker 1: For news pack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you look at that, it's like a
Speaker 2: who's I mean right, So George Senior's the head of
Speaker 2: the CIA, right, so his two kids are on Pact.
Speaker 1: And then the whole Joe Biden. Joe was one of
Speaker 1: the biggest Democrats. He was the most famous Democrat that
Speaker 1: got to see have.
Speaker 2: You heard him talking about it? To do his New
Speaker 2: World Order speeches? So he's done the New world He's
Speaker 2: part of this whole cabal. But if you look at Peanut,
Speaker 2: you can see a lot of dual citizenship, of dual
Speaker 2: citizens who are you know, who benefited?
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of real quick for the people that don't.
Speaker 2: Killing, hunting down and killing of Saddam. Who's saying that
Speaker 2: it's two sons.
Speaker 1: Well a Israel but but and Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 2: But listen, that's a real goal, that's a real globalist
Speaker 2: assault because that area of the Middle East is really
Speaker 2: the lynchpin for global control. If you if you carve
Speaker 2: out Iraq, you're in a centralized position, you know, for
Speaker 2: further domination. I don't know what the United States is
Speaker 2: going to do there.
Speaker 1: See William. I think that's kind of a lie to you.
Speaker 1: I don't even think that the Middle East matters. You know,
Speaker 1: we have enough oil and gas in Alaska and Texas.
Speaker 1: I think that that there is a holy war for
Speaker 1: Jerusalem or you know, that is like the fertile question.
Speaker 1: That is an important strategical place. But man, I think
Speaker 1: there is a better time when the Russians were fined
Speaker 1: the Muslims and we were giving them the Charlie Wilson's
Speaker 1: War and we were giving them that is a better
Speaker 1: scenario for us if somebody else is fighting in the
Speaker 1: Middle East and Americans but will never We're never going
Speaker 1: to link.
Speaker 2: Well, you're part of that that cartel of kind of
Speaker 2: like the military industrial complex. That war in Iraq was
Speaker 2: a boomdog man. That was huge, huge wealth transference, seven
Speaker 2: trillion dollars. You had to move everybody over there. It's
Speaker 2: just like Vietnam. There were so many people making money
Speaker 2: off that war that why would they want it to stop.
Speaker 2: It didn't really stop for those first eight years. But
Speaker 2: that's part of the larger issue of going back to
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. It's really a crucial event in world history,
Speaker 2: really in American history in particular, that changed things on
Speaker 2: so many levels. So and then you got to say
Speaker 2: who benefits? And then what was the benefits and what's
Speaker 2: the idea? What's the capacity of that human being somebody
Speaker 2: to do that?
Speaker 1: So do you think so let's go back to the
Speaker 1: initiation ritual. I believe nine to eleven had to be
Speaker 1: some sort of initiation. You were saying to this it
Speaker 1: was kind of a time or a new year. What
Speaker 1: was the say, what was the significance of the date?
Speaker 2: Well, September eleventh, that's on the eleventh rights of nine
Speaker 2: to eleven.
Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, that's.
Speaker 4: Like a power number nine.
Speaker 1: Wasn't a new year? No, but I'm saying, wasn't it
Speaker 1: a new year? What were you saying?
Speaker 2: Millennium?
Speaker 1: The New Malaya of course is right as a new millennium.
Speaker 1: Uh So you just look at the importance of nine
Speaker 1: to eleven and the symbolism behind it that it had
Speaker 1: to be some sort of a cultic initiation ritual in
Speaker 1: my opinion, into the new world order. But the difference
Speaker 1: of the difference's happening now with like the pandemic, this
Speaker 1: is making us more divisive. At least nine to eleven
Speaker 1: brought us together. So do you think that the social
Speaker 1: engineers that brought down the towers or you know, created
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, did they know that we were going
Speaker 1: to have this like love and and you know, camaraderie
Speaker 1: and all coming together after the fact that they expect
Speaker 1: that or do you think that was unexpected in your opinion,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think that there was very useful because the whole
Speaker 2: country was was primed and ready for vengeance. Right, So
Speaker 2: if you want to talk about getting everybody on board
Speaker 2: for some kind of war or something like that, that.
Speaker 1: Was very successful, most successful ever. Dude, I didn't have
Speaker 1: anything to do it. I want to go kill them.
Speaker 1: Tell his I want to go over. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was literally the mindset of everybody. And I didn't have
Speaker 1: any knowledge of the situation at all, but I was
Speaker 1: just so mad. And you know, I'm not a racist person,
Speaker 1: but you think, oh my god, it's a Muslim terrorists.
Speaker 1: They did that. They created the idea of the Muslim terrorists.
Speaker 1: They even did it with a predictive programming in Hollywood
Speaker 1: movies because in the movie Last Action Hero with Arnold Swarzenegger,
Speaker 1: they wanted to rent takes from the military. I think
Speaker 1: it was like Michael Bher forget who the big time
Speaker 1: director was, but they wanted to make the terrorists like
Speaker 1: Chinese or something, and the military said, no, they need
Speaker 1: to be Muslim terrorists if you're going to use ourselves.
Speaker 1: So they've been They've been trying to back to the
Speaker 1: future as a Muslim terrorist. They've been trying to create
Speaker 1: the idea that all Muslims are terrorists for a long time,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that to be the case. All
Speaker 1: Muslims I meet are very laid back and really nice
Speaker 1: people that I was very fortunate for them.
Speaker 2: That's a good enemy, right, so you can just create them.
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of the false flag terror
Speaker 2: events that happened after not a little totally fake. So everything
Speaker 2: that happened in Spain, London, those were all to me
Speaker 2: stage events. There was something that happened in India was was, well,
Speaker 2: what do you think? There was a lot of intel
Speaker 2: stuff going on.
Speaker 1: William real quick what do you think about this building
Speaker 1: that fell in Miami that looked awfully like the Twin Towers.
Speaker 1: And the reason why I asked that is I would
Speaker 1: never thought a building could implode. I think something funny,
Speaker 1: something funny happened, you know, like there was some sort
Speaker 1: of I don't know, I can't say it. I don't
Speaker 1: have any proof, but I think there was. That building
Speaker 1: didn't just accidentally fall down in my opinion, But what
Speaker 1: does that make you think? What does that make you think?
Speaker 1: They're looking back at nine to eleven you watch those
Speaker 1: that the controlled demolition and then you see the building
Speaker 1: in Miami. It kind of it makes you. It makes
Speaker 1: me second guess a little bit, like it makes you
Speaker 1: look back at the towers like, oh, maybe they can
Speaker 1: fall like that. But at the same time, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying at the same time, one hundred and
Speaker 1: ten story building's not going to fall in eleven seconds,
Speaker 1: so I but in my mind I thought, oh, well,
Speaker 1: a building with concrete and stel like that can't collapse.
Speaker 1: So seeing it, I guess maybe it opens the door
Speaker 1: that it's possible. But also in my head, as a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist, I'm like they did something to that building,
Speaker 1: or they knew something. There's something in that building. It
Speaker 1: just seems too real. I just don't in my mind,
Speaker 1: I don't imagine buildings just falling down like a house
Speaker 1: of cards.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what happened to that building.
Speaker 2: I mean I read somewhere that they said they were
Speaker 2: gonna have to do fifteen million dollars worth of repairs
Speaker 2: for it. So there seemed to be a knowledge that
Speaker 2: something was a mess. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 2: if somebody wanted to kill somebody like that.
Speaker 4: But as far as gone, I say, Matt.
Speaker 2: The whole Building seven doesn't fit into nine to eleven
Speaker 2: at all. So that's one of the reasons you can
Speaker 2: tell that it was a stage to them.
Speaker 1: Okay, but when you say that, so building seven, guys,
Speaker 1: if you do, if you're watching the show, you don't
Speaker 1: know Building seven. I don't know. I can't help you.
Speaker 1: But everybody needs to know about Building seven. That is
Speaker 1: a forty seven story building that fell from office fires.
Speaker 1: It would be the first building to ever collapse from
Speaker 1: office fires, and it was called the Solomon Brothers Building.
Speaker 1: But explain that, what's the importance of building seven way well.
Speaker 2: Because it doesn't fit into the narrative. How did that
Speaker 2: How did the two ers take that down? Why did
Speaker 2: it fall late? I think it fell in the afternoon
Speaker 2: and they actually blew it because and it shows the
Speaker 2: kind of transnational power of the media because they reported
Speaker 2: it in England before it actually fell, if you remember that.
Speaker 2: So that's a problem and it indicates staged media, which
Speaker 2: probably still happening today.
Speaker 1: But the BBC said, Elivis Sullivan Brothers building fell down,
Speaker 1: and it is right in the background the whole time
Speaker 1: and right in.
Speaker 2: The background, so she was just reading off of something
Speaker 2: somebody told her to read that. So there's all kinds
Speaker 2: of problems. But that's one example of nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: and it shows how it was a theatrical event. But
Speaker 2: I mean, you want to talk about this building, we
Speaker 2: can go in. You could do a whole show just
Speaker 2: on the twin towers and the spherical caryatid which was
Speaker 2: the circle there, and all the predictive programming that was
Speaker 2: in TV shows. I mean, there's one with Arnold Schwarzenegger
Speaker 2: that was about demonism that featured the twin towers in
Speaker 2: the background. There's a sequence from fight Club with the
Speaker 2: spherical Curyatic in it. A lot of people had to
Speaker 2: have known that this event was gonna happen. Have you
Speaker 2: ever see The Wizard of Oz? Have you ever seen
Speaker 2: The Wiz with Michael Jackson at the very end, do
Speaker 2: you know where the Wizard of Oz lefts and he
Speaker 2: lives at the Twin Towers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Michael Jackson music video.
Speaker 2: You could probably pull it up on YouTube right now
Speaker 2: if you will look up at the end of Wizard
Speaker 2: It's pretty creepy, but there was in there, and there's
Speaker 2: all kinds of people doing videos on top of buildings.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: No, no, but let's go back to the predictive programming.
Speaker 1: That is, the predictive programming before the Twin Towers fell
Speaker 1: was so blatant when you look at like Wrestling the
Speaker 1: Twin Towers and I think you said, or I think
Speaker 1: I know you said it fight Club that came out
Speaker 1: right before. And there's so explain the Fight Club because
Speaker 1: I just watched it the other day since you told
Speaker 1: me i'd seen it before, but I watched it again
Speaker 1: since our interview because you said, how much symbolism, dude,
Speaker 1: it is literally about a secret, clandestine group trying to
Speaker 1: cause chaos. I mean, it's it's like what that what
Speaker 1: I'd imagine if for people that haven't seen Fight Club,
Speaker 1: you need to watch it again. But like how this
Speaker 1: group spirals out of control and how like the group
Speaker 1: takes on it's the mind of its own. I believe
Speaker 1: that's what's happened with the social engineers that are doing this.
Speaker 1: It's like they're almost not even evil people. They get
Speaker 1: in the group, and the group as a whole has
Speaker 1: this plan that you know, you just kind of get
Speaker 1: sucked up into.
Speaker 2: Well, we talked about Fight Club, you want to talk
Speaker 2: about a five and the six. What's the name of
Speaker 2: the central.
Speaker 1: Character on that of Tyler Derden.
Speaker 2: What's the number? What are the numbers of his name?
Speaker 1: Five? Six? You are six?
Speaker 2: What's the number of the name of Harry Potter?
Speaker 1: Five and six?
Speaker 2: So there's your eleven. So you're seeing this kind of
Speaker 2: theme of the elevens in that movie. So the movie
Speaker 2: you saw the spherical Carrey added you saw at the
Speaker 2: very end the twin Towers of La Drop at the
Speaker 2: same time, So that's foreshadowing one to eleven. It's just
Speaker 2: all kinds of straights up and at the very end
Speaker 2: of the book is different than the film because at
Speaker 2: the book, after he shoots himself in the mouth, his
Speaker 2: face turns into a big smiley face, so he's kind
Speaker 2: of a grinning demon. And that smiley face symbolism is
Speaker 2: all over Hollywood, and it's actually in Fight Club. If
Speaker 2: you watch my documentary A Cult Hollywood Volume two, which
Speaker 2: is now up on Vimeo. I put all my videos
Speaker 2: back up on Vimeo, so all three of my doc
Speaker 2: all five of my documentaries are on Vimeo right now.
Speaker 2: But you'll see this smiley based symbolism is in Fight Club.
Speaker 2: But I mean, it's an incredible film because it's so
Speaker 2: much and you're right, it's about a chaos causing club
Speaker 2: that is almost like if you look at it, they're
Speaker 2: emulating or mimicking almost a monastic kind of life you
Speaker 2: have to fight your way in. Remember there's like initiations
Speaker 2: and there's secrecy, tons of secrecy in there. Don't mention
Speaker 2: Fight Club. So he's Palatinek or whatever his name is.
Speaker 2: He's drawing on all kinds of occult themes when he's
Speaker 2: writing that book.
Speaker 1: And David Fincher did a great job directing. So in
Speaker 1: one of the ending scenes, he Edward Norton is just
Speaker 1: like China, He's gonna kill himself and he shoots his neck.
Speaker 1: So I didn't realize. So in the book he's like
Speaker 1: smiling because.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, the end of the book, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well it's funny. It will just because that part. Because
Speaker 1: all of a sudden in the movie, like he shoots
Speaker 1: himself and then they show him and his like faces
Speaker 1: all fucked up, and then like all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like ten seconds later, he's like she's still all messed up,
Speaker 1: but he's like able to talk and like I just don't.
Speaker 1: So you can tell there's some sort of symbolism. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously that's fake. So he did they are trying to
Speaker 1: send some sort of message with the bullet through your
Speaker 1: mouth and still talking to him. What do you think
Speaker 1: that message is?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, what's the smiley face message? What's the symbolism?
Speaker 2: Why are there smiley faces associated with all these young
Speaker 2: men dying and being thrown in water.
Speaker 1: It's like the joker, the joker, smiley face.
Speaker 2: They love that, right, So you'll see that same smiley
Speaker 2: face motif in Alan Moore's films. You'll see it in
Speaker 2: really the Joker as well as The Watchman or Watchman
Speaker 2: if people ever watch that, the head guys called the
Speaker 2: Comedian or whatever. So there's just tons of stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: once you take a step back and look through all
Speaker 2: all this modern culture, there's a lot of symbolism. You're
Speaker 2: being initiated. But I mean nine there's a lot of
Speaker 2: foreshadowing a nine to eleven, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Well, I think for me. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: saw this, but there's a great video on did back
Speaker 1: to the future predict nine to eleven? And in that
Speaker 1: and in the symbolism, and that is unreal. It's about it.
Speaker 1: How have that to save a tower? And how you know?
Speaker 1: Literally there's a nine and eleven when he goes back
Speaker 1: in time, he comes back in time. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: so much nine eleven symbolism, all seeing eye. So they
Speaker 1: put this in, they put this in so much predictive
Speaker 1: programming in our thought, you know, in our collective consciousness
Speaker 1: in the zeitgeis why though, William, why did they do
Speaker 1: the revelation of the method before I get it ready
Speaker 1: to do it after? But why is it just to
Speaker 1: tease us? Is it they're just jacking with us.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think it's a significant expression of
Speaker 2: their power. It's also a signaling function to other people
Speaker 2: what really is happening. So they have the kind of
Speaker 2: Wizard of Oz where somebody behind the curtain knows the
Speaker 2: whole thing that's different than people who are beyond the curtain.
Speaker 2: So I think that that's like the numerology. If you
Speaker 2: were an occultist, you would know day one, on September eleventh,
Speaker 2: two thousand and one that that story was bull onwing
Speaker 2: because you would know those numbers, you would know Croley's numbers,
Speaker 2: you would know all that stuff. So there's a lot
Speaker 2: of things going on. I mean, I don't know the
Speaker 2: revelation of the method and all that stuff. It's all
Speaker 2: there for them. Let me read you this sequence from
Speaker 2: this the bullet out of Tyler's gun. It tore out
Speaker 2: my other cheek to give me a jagged smile from
Speaker 2: year to year. Yeah, just like an angry Halloween pumpkin,
Speaker 2: Japanese demon, Dragon of Avarice. That's the end of Fight Club.
Speaker 1: And that's if the buildings fall down in the movie
Speaker 1: bases right right.
Speaker 2: That So the book's a little bit you know it's
Speaker 2: a little different.
Speaker 1: But still just the symbolism before they want to get
Speaker 1: used of these explosions. They want to trick us. And
Speaker 1: so when we see it, I guess we're you know,
Speaker 1: we're okay with it. It's a lot like when like
Speaker 1: all these pandemic movies came out, you know, and so
Speaker 1: people just they just know how to react because they've
Speaker 1: seen it in movies.
Speaker 2: But they're all foreshadowing too, So they're foreshadowing the pandemic.
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of these guys knew the
Speaker 2: pandemic is coming coming, didn't they say, didn't like bouch,
Speaker 2: you know there's going to be a pandemic soon.
Speaker 1: Oh he said, he said it multi he said it
Speaker 1: multiple times. And then they said because they were doing
Speaker 1: it for health preventative protection. That's why they've been talking
Speaker 1: about this for years and running simulations, and and it
Speaker 1: happened right after Trump fired Obama's appointed you know whatever.
Speaker 1: What is a disaster? Viral disaster?
Speaker 2: Dis Yeah, you see, if I can get my book
Speaker 2: up here, it's not showing.
Speaker 1: Up, yeah, because it wants to see your face. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'll put a picture of this off.
Speaker 2: I have to turn off this thing. This is too
Speaker 2: complex for me.
Speaker 1: You know it's a pain in the drea but uh
Speaker 1: uh and in which but this is your this is
Speaker 1: your latest book here, I'll just pull out.
Speaker 2: No, this is my original book that I wrote in
Speaker 2: twenty ten.
Speaker 1: Cool symbolism and yeah, so there.
Speaker 2: So it's basically like Crawley behind the twin Towers. But
Speaker 2: it's there's you know, it's a decent sized book. There's
Speaker 2: right here.
Speaker 1: Let me see.
Speaker 2: We turn this.
Speaker 4: I can't think.
Speaker 1: I just had a picture of her book pulled up.
Speaker 1: We're trying to find it right now here you go
Speaker 1: Alistair Crowley a visual study. So let's so the people
Speaker 1: here children have to be a prophet of evil. There
Speaker 1: we go, prophet of evil. Look at you like me.
Speaker 1: You have the cat right there. I can't be you
Speaker 1: blurred out the cat, William. You have such a cool cat.
Speaker 1: I'm so mad.
Speaker 2: She has a little perch up there, so she goes
Speaker 2: up there and checks outside. So you can buy this
Speaker 2: on my website or you can get it from Amazon.
Speaker 1: And everybody I want everybody goes support you, William, because
Speaker 1: you know you are doing the work. But when you
Speaker 1: come to nine to eleven, let's talk about some of
Speaker 1: the most egregious symbols of it. Like for me, I
Speaker 1: think after the fact, the two black square of Saturn,
Speaker 1: I don't understand why why would they even make that
Speaker 1: the memorial these two black squares? But what did you
Speaker 1: what a symbolism do you think happened after the fact,
Speaker 1: like one world trade, the idea that two towers into one,
Speaker 1: the inversion, like what tell me what symbolism you think
Speaker 1: after the fact that will keep? Well?
Speaker 2: I think you just mentioned it because you're bringing the
Speaker 2: two opposites together to create a new synthesis. Actually the
Speaker 2: magical that synthesis that I think it's gally and dialectic.
Speaker 2: Actually I was told comes from magic. So I interviewed
Speaker 2: a guy who said, that's magical principle entering into philosophy,
Speaker 2: believe it or not, which is thesis antithesis, synthesis.
Speaker 4: That's like a magical lit well again at right, So.
Speaker 2: You have the thesis the opposite a.
Speaker 1: Right, so when they come together, it synthesizes, is what
Speaker 1: the idea of it is? Wow?
Speaker 2: But then if you look at that new building that
Speaker 2: they built, it's from the top, it's a hexagram, right,
Speaker 2: So you're looking down you have the little square of
Speaker 2: the triangles that go up and down the side of it.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's the symbol of the macrocosm. Now, now
Speaker 2: we've we've taken these ideas, these magical ideas, and expanded
Speaker 2: them all over the world.
Speaker 1: Do you think, and I know you don't know, I mean,
Speaker 1: can they pull off a nine to eleven in this
Speaker 1: day and age? Because back then, well this is why
Speaker 1: I say that. Nowadays you'd have a million phones and
Speaker 1: you'd be able to you know, you know, they only
Speaker 1: had a few cameras. There's only one, supposedly one video
Speaker 1: footage taken of a fireman of the first plane going
Speaker 1: into the first hours. Obviously, right, those two guys are.
Speaker 2: Really suspicious too, those two French brothers.
Speaker 1: It's all. Everybody's suspicious, everybody with nine to eleven that
Speaker 1: has anything. Do you find a passport? The person who
Speaker 1: found the passport? I mean, every single story is like this.
Speaker 1: What could have you.
Speaker 2: Ever see the biker man who like explained everything perfect.
Speaker 1: Harley Davison guy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, then.
Speaker 2: It's not I saw the plane set and then it
Speaker 2: came straight down like he kind of somebody gave him
Speaker 2: a script.
Speaker 1: Dude, he was one hundred percent script and then the
Speaker 1: behind him, as you can tell, he's like an FBI
Speaker 1: guy just looks so obviously he's some sort of handler. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: then tell me this. What about on nine to eleven?
Speaker 1: What do you think happened? Because I believe that the
Speaker 1: buildings were built to come down, and they might have
Speaker 1: flown planes into it, but I don't believe it was
Speaker 1: an American Airlines flight ninety three. You know, that was
Speaker 1: like what happened in Pennsylvania. There's no plane that hit
Speaker 1: the ground in Pennsylvania, right.
Speaker 2: So what there was one guy I wish I could
Speaker 2: remember his name, but those there were planes that were
Speaker 2: actual flights that all went down in either Ohio or
Speaker 2: upstate New York or something like. There was a stop there,
Speaker 2: and so what I think happened is the actual flights
Speaker 2: came down, there was an order, and then the dummy
Speaker 2: planes went off. So it was like those were they
Speaker 2: couldn't leave it to chance, right, So they definitely, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think the plotters knew they had to have dummy planes.
Speaker 2: And because somebody would.
Speaker 1: Panic at the last no shit, you're as I was,
Speaker 1: you would have to be show brainwashed to actually fly
Speaker 1: a plane into a building, because everything in your body
Speaker 1: would say, I don't want to do this, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean like even a suicidal person would probably still
Speaker 1: not want to die like that because it just would
Speaker 1: be so scary. I mean there you would be trembling
Speaker 1: in fear if I think if I was flying that
Speaker 1: plane trying to hit a building, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: care if it was.
Speaker 2: Assuming a plane hit the Pentagon right seventy seven, So
Speaker 2: there's no way, right, So so either a rocket or
Speaker 2: something happened or something something different. There wasn't a plane.
Speaker 2: The records wasn't enough.
Speaker 1: It was too low. I mean, how could the plane
Speaker 1: In my opinion, we just look at it. It would
Speaker 1: have had a skit on the ground for a while
Speaker 1: to even make a hole that low in the Pentagon
Speaker 1: in my opinion, So the story's just bullcrap.
Speaker 2: It's buloney. So it was like an intel off. I
Speaker 2: think the guy who did the video surmised or speculated
Speaker 2: that the people on the planes were taking off, they
Speaker 2: were put in phones, like they had to go to
Speaker 2: something and sit fake in front of a phone, and
Speaker 2: then they talked, and then they were taken somewhere and done.
Speaker 1: And the flights were empty, and there's usually fights.
Speaker 2: And all that stuff is fake and so a lot.
Speaker 2: There was one where the flight attendant was talking and
Speaker 2: somebody's over her shoulder telling her what to say. There's
Speaker 2: a recording of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like she's like, yeah, she's whispering, and
Speaker 1: you can hear somebody else whispering or something, and then recording.
Speaker 2: And you don't know who's on those flights, who's an
Speaker 2: intel op or who's going Who's what the real story is?
Speaker 2: I don't know. So it was very I mean, it's
Speaker 2: a perfect man. They had eight years to cover it up, right,
Speaker 2: because it's under that same administration. You noticed, do you
Speaker 2: notice like George W. Bush, he's like treated like a para.
Speaker 2: Do you notice he like a leopard?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? I feel like no, I think
Speaker 1: it's different. I a little bit, But now I feel
Speaker 1: like him in a Michelle Obama handing out candy And
Speaker 1: now everybody.
Speaker 2: What's up with that?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying George Bush is the biggest idiot ever.
Speaker 1: Every Jay Leno, all those guys used to crushing me.
Speaker 1: He's such a dummy, and now all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he's like this really cool guy because he's finging Michelle
Speaker 1: Obama makes me sick, makes me and I'm from Dallas.
Speaker 1: He lives here in Dallas.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, you know that when they came here, came into power,
Speaker 2: there was no no looking back. Nobody got arrested or
Speaker 2: there was no.
Speaker 1: They all got they all got promotions, everybody that all
Speaker 1: the military people William literally the people that were inside
Speaker 1: the Pentagon, that were that supposedly gave the information. This
Speaker 1: is the official story that George Bush and connollezer Rice
Speaker 1: were briefed by the FBI with information that they wanted
Speaker 1: to fly planes into towers. This is what they tell us,
Speaker 1: and then they just you know, overlooked it. They didn't
Speaker 1: take it serious enough. And the same people that supposedly
Speaker 1: presented with that evidence were the ones that got promoted.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: And nobody got demoted, right, didn't. I think the head
Speaker 2: of the Joint Chiefs or something got promote. I mean,
Speaker 2: all these guys got promotions. So, uh, I should tell
Speaker 2: you something. There's a lot of problems with not elone,
Speaker 2: but I think it's important to see what happened after
Speaker 2: the event because that I think was the plan, and
Speaker 2: to do something it's almost I mean people have likened
Speaker 2: it to a Restak fire. Right, So the Nazis get
Speaker 2: this mentally ill guy, a true Patsy, Martin vander Luba
Speaker 2: I think is his name origin. Yeah, they was. They
Speaker 2: call him a communist, but he like when they were
Speaker 2: in trial, the guy was drugged to the gills. They
Speaker 2: had him, they were giving him pills and stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, so I didn't know about the trial, I know,
Speaker 1: So so what did they trick? They tricked the guy
Speaker 1: to start a fire and then well he was a tatsy.
Speaker 2: So the Nazis actually burnt down the Reichstag, right, So
Speaker 2: the whole German people are outraged. Right, look at the
Speaker 2: the effect of that. He would be the equivalent of
Speaker 2: seeing our capitol building being burnt to a crisp, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, they go back and look at the virus.
Speaker 5: It's a it's a huge fire. The entire Reichstag just
Speaker 5: burned to a crisp. So the German people are pissed.
Speaker 5: They blame a kamie, right, They burlamed this communist so
Speaker 5: they can do all kinds of stuff to put the
Speaker 5: Communists to joke because they're the bad guys. So they
Speaker 5: they had that fit right into the Nazi paradigm and
Speaker 5: what they wanted to achieve like a gift, like a
Speaker 5: like a like a pile of gold.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask it. Let me ask you. Have
Speaker 1: you ever heard of the theory that that that the
Speaker 1: Nazis really didn't lose World War Two and that they
Speaker 1: just kind of conceded and came over to America. Like,
Speaker 1: I know, that's a whole nother story, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: this is the only reason why I give it some credence.
Speaker 1: They're the original false flag attackers.
Speaker 2: They the old Lywitz thing. I just did an interview
Speaker 2: with the guy that was fake. They blamed the Polish
Speaker 2: people for invading Germany, and that was fake, and that
Speaker 2: pissed off the German people. So Hitler and his crew
Speaker 2: were like puppeteering their own people, lying to them, and
Speaker 2: they had all these operators that did it for them.
Speaker 2: So the whole the whole initial Polish thing was fake
Speaker 2: and then just outraged to the Germans, they attacked us. Okay,
Speaker 2: we got to go get them, just like the same event.
Speaker 2: So you got to see that social engineering element to it.
Speaker 2: Like you mentioned social engineering. So whether the Nazis won,
Speaker 2: they lost in a big, bad way. But there's a
Speaker 2: lot of Nazis that got out. There were a lot
Speaker 2: of Catholic rat lines they called.
Speaker 1: Them, that got them out, and they had it. No,
Speaker 1: you nailed it, the Catholic gradelines. They had the lines.
Speaker 1: They had lines to be able to create a new
Speaker 1: life if the war, if they lost the war.
Speaker 2: So for me, they knew Hitler probably got out. I
Speaker 2: don't think he killed himself.
Speaker 1: Hitler got out. Come on, listen, will yeah, as a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist, listen, everybody can say, you know, a conspiracy
Speaker 1: is conspiracy that I think Hitler at the time, one
Speaker 1: of the most powerful men in the world, didn't kill
Speaker 1: himself with Averabron and his dog. I I just can't
Speaker 1: imagine that. I just can't imagine that guy with all
Speaker 1: the you know, cachet behind his name. I think Hitler,
Speaker 1: if he was the Hitler we say, he would rather
Speaker 1: be killed or I don't know. I just don't can't
Speaker 1: imagine him killing it.
Speaker 2: It's a much better story. But look at this guy.
Speaker 2: He was really if you look at the war in
Speaker 2: Poland and the re stack fire he knew how, or
Speaker 2: the people around him knew how to tell a story
Speaker 2: to the public that was palatable, palatable, and that was
Speaker 2: a good story. I committed suicide. It's over. You don't
Speaker 2: have to worry about anything. There's no trials.
Speaker 1: It's kind of embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Borman. I'm know Borman got out. That was a fake
Speaker 2: death too.
Speaker 1: Man became a doctor in Brazil. Mangle did give me a.
Speaker 2: Break, right, So a lot of those guys got out.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of them. I mean there's some
Speaker 2: of the there's why what do you say, Well, I
Speaker 2: will just say some of those people's grandchildren are around
Speaker 2: in the United States.
Speaker 1: Oh there's still running Oh dude, a lot of their
Speaker 1: grandchildren are still running stuff in the United States. I
Speaker 1: know it's haired to say that, but these lineages are
Speaker 1: powerful people. They're not just going to give up their power.
Speaker 1: If there's some multi millionaire family in Germany, they wandered.
Speaker 2: Their money, they laundered it with the Catholic Church's help.
Speaker 2: There are all kinds of stuff that went under the thing.
Speaker 2: People got paid off. The Germans looted those people incredibly.
Speaker 2: They took all of their art, money, gold, everything.
Speaker 1: It was terrible tons of money.
Speaker 2: There was tons of money laundering, all kinds of nasty
Speaker 2: stuff after the war. Up until the end, they knew
Speaker 2: the end was coming. They knew that it was coming,
Speaker 2: so they had time to prepare. They had a year
Speaker 2: at least a year.
Speaker 1: Well for me, I never understood that the idea, like
Speaker 1: I know how they describe it to in school, but
Speaker 1: like basically they said, oh, we knew World War two,
Speaker 1: we knew concentration camps are happening, but we didn't want
Speaker 1: to get involved in the war until Pearl Harbor happened.
Speaker 1: It's like a lot some Japanese people had to shoot
Speaker 1: up a military base in Hawaii for US to go
Speaker 1: save the Jews. It's just the story doesn't connect.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean there's a lot of problems, don't.
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of antipathy in the States
Speaker 2: at that time, a lot of anti Semitism. But it's
Speaker 2: also seven thousand miles away. It's on the Eastern Front,
Speaker 2: which the US would have had to do some crazy
Speaker 2: stuff to get all the way over there. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was hard enough to land in Normandy. It was
Speaker 2: hard enough to land in Normandy. But a lot of
Speaker 2: them knew they were getting reports coming out of Switzerland,
Speaker 2: so they knew that the deaths were happening. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know where you lay that blame or onus,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I mean the German it wasn't
Speaker 2: just the Jews. They the Germans had in their plans, well,
Speaker 2: they were going to kill every Polish person alive within
Speaker 2: five or ten years. They just didn't have the time.
Speaker 2: And Hitler said an annihilation and you see I have
Speaker 2: these multiple annihilation orders, but he said, annihilate the Russians
Speaker 2: and kill them all. They're not worth anything. So they
Speaker 2: were going to kill off the Russians if they could
Speaker 2: pull off you know what, what do they call the
Speaker 2: Eastern Front war?
Speaker 4: Which was what It doesn't even make sense.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense that we'd want to kill each
Speaker 1: other and take each other over. I mean I know
Speaker 1: that that, you know, that's a real thing.
Speaker 2: War two is a disaster. It was a disaster for everybody,
Speaker 2: is a disaster for Germans. I mean Germans killed. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's not supposed to have sympathy, but I don't think
Speaker 2: a lot of those people were really on board. They
Speaker 2: just got propaganda. It's like you wouldn't believe a lot
Speaker 2: like Americans due to the death I mean, it's off the.
Speaker 1: Charts, William dude. And now we have the society where
Speaker 1: it's like literally all about manners and political correctness and
Speaker 1: and and it's the road to uh hell is paid
Speaker 1: with good intentions. And that's the problem is like we're
Speaker 1: really literally becoming a fascist country. I mean it really
Speaker 1: is a fascist country.
Speaker 2: I think it's a fascist country right now.
Speaker 1: Is that why? Why? Like you see, I want to say.
Speaker 2: That we're here, We're already here. I mean it's it's
Speaker 2: sad to admit, but your you had all of these
Speaker 2: big tech companies working. I mean there was this case
Speaker 2: was that Shiva are you are You're derived I he
Speaker 2: proved that the government was calling Twitter.
Speaker 4: To ban him to Twitter.
Speaker 2: It's a fundamental definition fashion, which is business and government
Speaker 2: working together. So the Congress has wasted so much time
Speaker 2: with these bogus impeachment things. They should have been rewriting
Speaker 2: two thirty. They should have been putting proper regulations on
Speaker 2: these tech companies, and they didn't do it. They failed.
Speaker 2: So the Congress has failed all overall, just wasting massive
Speaker 2: amounts of time.
Speaker 1: But Welliam, you know they didn't fail. You know that
Speaker 1: the Political Action Committee told them not to go after
Speaker 1: big tech. You know that they're I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: they failed us. They failed this to people. But trust me,
Speaker 1: these politicians if they can't get in power and still
Speaker 1: have any integrity, like you know, they have to be
Speaker 1: they have to do what they're told. I mean, how
Speaker 1: do you get in that position this day and age.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I mean, it's really goes back
Speaker 2: to power. A lot. Some of these careers are built
Speaker 2: by wealthy people. I mean Bill Clinton is a good example.
Speaker 2: But some of these people are really fronts for business
Speaker 2: power or business interests and still are ones they're in power.
Speaker 2: So it's a really dirty system. I lived in DC.
Speaker 2: Some of those guys just all they do is raise money.
Speaker 2: They don't even do their jobs. They're just raising money
Speaker 2: for the next campaigns so they can stay in power.
Speaker 1: That's all they're trying to do is self preservation. But
Speaker 1: you know, see when that's the problem with America is
Speaker 1: that we're run by multinational corporations. And a multinational corporation,
Speaker 1: Google doesn't have a soul, it doesn't have a heart,
Speaker 1: it doesn't you know, you know, they can't have empathy.
Speaker 1: A company can't feel empathy for somebody. They can they
Speaker 1: can make their gay flag for a month, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're empathetic. That just shows you how fake
Speaker 1: that a company. The fact that all the companies changed,
Speaker 1: you know, turn gay for one month, that just shows
Speaker 1: you how they're not empathetic and how they they don't
Speaker 1: have a soul. So that's the problem. When America is
Speaker 1: bought and sold by corporations like Coca Cola and Twitter,
Speaker 1: then we don't have a we don't have a soul
Speaker 1: of the soul of the nation is soull liss in
Speaker 1: my opinion right.
Speaker 2: Now, right No, I agree, it's it's it's a shame.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's almost like the movie, like
Speaker 2: have you ever seen roller Ball with James Kahan? Yeah,
Speaker 2: the whole Yeah, the whole world has just broken up
Speaker 2: into cartels and.
Speaker 4: Combines and better.
Speaker 1: I think that will almost be better. Do you think
Speaker 1: that's actually gonna happen now? I mean, do you know if.
Speaker 2: It's that much different? But they really didn't want individuality.
Speaker 2: That's really what the whole story of Rollerball is is
Speaker 2: that this guy was a superstar and they didn't like
Speaker 2: that because it took away from them.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's a that's the idea of.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of really the idea of fascism really
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways is like the end of
Speaker 2: the power of the individual gets.
Speaker 4: Squelched, William.
Speaker 1: It gets so much, it gets so fascist that the
Speaker 1: idea of love is ownership. For me to love you
Speaker 1: will be illegal because that means I own you, you know,
Speaker 1: just the idea of loving something as ownership. So that's
Speaker 1: why in George Orwell in nineteen eighty four, you can't love,
Speaker 1: you can't have a relation in true fascism, because that
Speaker 1: would be giving yourself to somebody else. You have to
Speaker 1: give yourself fully to the state. Yes, yeah, it's not good.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's the current pattern or where we're
Speaker 2: headed is not positive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but see, William, are you and I going to
Speaker 1: be a victim of it?
Speaker 4: I mean, you're a family man.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like I feel like there
Speaker 1: is this is what I'm saying. There's the brainwash, and
Speaker 1: there's a not brainwashed. You go on the Vegas stage
Speaker 1: and you have the hypnotists, and he can hypnotize some
Speaker 1: people and some people don't get hypnotized. So I feel
Speaker 1: like the people that don't get hypnotized, they don't do
Speaker 1: the embarrassing chicken dance in front of ten thousand people.
Speaker 1: So I think, because we're not brainwashed, and maybe this
Speaker 1: is just me trying to be white pill positive, I
Speaker 1: think us that can see what's happening are not going
Speaker 1: to be victims to the New World Order, at least
Speaker 1: will be the last ones on the trains to the
Speaker 1: concentration camps, right, well, hopefully, I mean, I mean, you
Speaker 1: look at some of these people that are still on
Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter and stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I don't know. I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: feel that. I don't feel that positive. But I think
Speaker 2: that really these guys, the real controllers, the kings of
Speaker 2: the Earth, really didn't account for the power of the
Speaker 2: Internet and people to communicate behind their backs. So they're
Speaker 2: probably as powerful potent is maybe it could have been
Speaker 2: in the past when the CIA really had control through
Speaker 2: the what was it, the Mighty world it serves what
Speaker 2: they called it, through everything. Yeah, so they they had
Speaker 2: like a they had a department in the CAA. All
Speaker 2: they did is wanted to control, you know, all communications.
Speaker 2: They had very ambitious uh designs. So the Internet really
Speaker 2: allowed people this to happen you and need to happen
Speaker 2: really wasn't plausible before nine to eleven, so they didn't
Speaker 2: really anticipate the possible possibility of things like this happening
Speaker 2: and people sharing information.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want you guys to watch this video. This
Speaker 1: is a video that just got re archived. This is
Speaker 1: from after Hurricane Katrina. And Hurricane Katrina they had a
Speaker 1: mandatory evacuation, So guys, this is just a sneak peak
Speaker 1: of what's about to happen in America.
Speaker 2: Humanity video Today.
Speaker 3: In New Orleans, they got a lot of tough for
Speaker 3: on the holdouts, not only the flooded areas, but New
Speaker 3: orleans driest and wealthiest neighborhoods too. The police and National
Speaker 3: Guard going street by street.
Speaker 4: House to house.
Speaker 3: I mean to make sure too that whenever off the
Speaker 3: doors people use leave you need to make a note calling.
Speaker 6: They say there are no orders to use force, just
Speaker 6: strong persuasion, sometimes entering open houses with guns drawn and
Speaker 6: instructions to disarm anyone inside.
Speaker 2: You say guns will be taken, no one will be
Speaker 2: able to be armed. We don't take all weapons.
Speaker 3: That happened today in this wealthy neighborhood where homeowners had
Speaker 3: armed themselves to protect their mansions. Residents were handcuffed on
Speaker 3: the ground. In the end, police took their weapons but
Speaker 3: let them stay in their homes. They were a little
Speaker 3: bit threatened because our weapons were bigger than their weapons.
Speaker 3: For many of the police and guard troops, it is
Speaker 3: an uncomfortable job to do this in an American city.
Speaker 3: This guard unit occupied a church using it as a
Speaker 3: base camp. They had to leave a note because they
Speaker 3: could not get hold of the pastor to get permission.
Speaker 2: It is it is surreal.
Speaker 3: You just never you never expect to do this in
Speaker 3: your own country. Chris Montgomery says he'd rather be in
Speaker 3: a rock than patrolling American neighborhoods.
Speaker 4: Walking up and down these streets.
Speaker 6: You don't you don't want to think about the stuff
Speaker 6: that you're gonna have to do.
Speaker 4: Somebody popps around the corner, let me.
Speaker 6: Shooting an America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I don't want in here.
Speaker 2: I don't in here period.
Speaker 6: What I know.
Speaker 1: An elderly woman they tackled her and ripped her out
Speaker 1: of her own house, and she is now out.
Speaker 2: Of the city.
Speaker 1: So so so let's say it.
Speaker 7: Was a human drama with emotions and tensions running high.
Speaker 7: Patty Connie is still trying to recover physically and emotionally.
Speaker 7: They really give a number around me from the day
Speaker 7: police force turn from Hume.
Speaker 2: It was dramatic. All of a sudden, they're banging then
Speaker 2: the front door.
Speaker 1: I mean, and this is guys, that's an elderly woman.
Speaker 1: And that was for Hurricane Katrina. Because there's people. There
Speaker 1: is people looting the Superdome. So that means they had
Speaker 1: to go to other people's houses and throw elderly women
Speaker 1: on the ground and break their arm to protect the guy.
Speaker 1: The United States somehow. I mean that this is just
Speaker 1: a sneak peak, William. I think of what's very likely
Speaker 1: to happen in the very near future setting.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope it doesn't happen. I think that the
Speaker 2: current powers really would like to have everybody's.
Speaker 1: Gun, for sure, William, The gun's the last thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: then let me give your opinion because we're gonna wrap
Speaker 1: this up. We've been doing fifty two minutes. We got
Speaker 1: about five minutes left. The gunns are the last American
Speaker 1: UH defense method. But this is what this is you
Speaker 1: heard I know you heard this. Joe Biden even said
Speaker 1: to take on the government, you need f fifteens and
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. So first of all, that gives me the
Speaker 1: idea that he's scared of us having guns. And second
Speaker 1: of all, they've got to take our gun. So what's
Speaker 1: your opinion on her will be armed?
Speaker 2: You get twice the amount that you have. No, But
Speaker 2: the that's an interesting statement by him because I think
Speaker 2: you can in two it you can deduce that they
Speaker 2: are talking about that, right, so somebody having that conversation
Speaker 2: at least around him, or having that conversation. And then
Speaker 2: if the NSA is back spying on Tucker Carlson or something,
Speaker 2: that's a blatant breaking of the law. So we're in
Speaker 2: deep trouble.
Speaker 1: If William I remember, you're gonna say, but you know
Speaker 1: Trump told the NSA to to spy on Rachel Maddowen
Speaker 1: all I mean, so I just want to call a
Speaker 1: spade a spade. I mean, I'm not antium.
Speaker 2: Then he got spined on too. But if you remember that,
Speaker 2: what was it, the unmasking scandal at the end of
Speaker 2: the Obama administration, right, they were getting.
Speaker 4: Supposed how much trouble.
Speaker 1: Did they get William none. They broke the law repeatedly,
Speaker 1: got them totally cut nothing. That's why Trump started to
Speaker 1: do it. And Trump only did it to a couple
Speaker 1: of journalists. If he would have done it to the unmasking,
Speaker 1: to the way that Obama would have done it, they
Speaker 1: would have thrown Trump under the jail. And that's another
Speaker 1: thing is in New York district attorney said.
Speaker 4: Oh, Trump's going to jail, Trump's going to charge criminally.
Speaker 1: Did you just see Trump didn't get charged at charged
Speaker 1: with no crime in New York? Did you see that, William?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: It's interesting, but yeah, it's really kind of an ugly
Speaker 2: political situation all over.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: So things aren't looking great.
Speaker 1: What about the guns though, I mean, if they take
Speaker 1: away our guns, are we done? They say we can't.
Speaker 1: They say we can't, William, Let's say let's just role
Speaker 1: play it tomorrow. Bal Slag attacked eighty five people shot
Speaker 1: in a just you know movie or whatever. We got
Speaker 1: to take away guns. What happens is this because we
Speaker 1: know how people are fighting back with the masses stuff.
Speaker 1: Do you think people fight in this if they say
Speaker 1: your guns are taken away? Are people in the street
Speaker 1: mobilizing and shooting. You do think that would start a
Speaker 1: civil war in your opinion?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think because what's next? Every
Speaker 2: criminal state, whether it's the Nazis or the Communists, always
Speaker 2: took people's guns in or for example, Cambodia, they always
Speaker 2: took people's guns as a preface. That was the beginning,
Speaker 2: That was the beginning of all the abuses. So if
Speaker 2: that's what's the second amendments for these people don't want
Speaker 2: to build of rights. They want to rewrite history. Like
Speaker 2: I know, history it's not pretty. That's why people have
Speaker 2: individual power, like and that's why people need to have guns.
Speaker 2: You should have guns for defense against the government, not
Speaker 2: just your neighbor.
Speaker 1: We in your opinion of you, and you know all
Speaker 1: the history that you've looked into, what system does work?
Speaker 1: In your opinion? Like, I mean, you know, is America
Speaker 1: built to fail? I feel like America is still it's
Speaker 1: so corrupt, it's run by evil social engineers. I really
Speaker 1: want to make us happy, but I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: better than Canada. I look at Canada. We are still
Speaker 1: better than Even if America sucks, We're still better than Canada.
Speaker 1: Is right now. So what system works where the people
Speaker 1: are happy and they still have all their you know, necessities.
Speaker 2: Back when it wasn't asn't as corrupt, I think the
Speaker 2: tripartite system, or you have an active judiciary kind of
Speaker 2: refereeing and maintaining the law, and that the actual people
Speaker 2: in Congress are actually creating loss I think, and not
Speaker 2: trying to break them as a functioning system. But we
Speaker 2: don't seem to be doing that as much right now.
Speaker 2: So I think the original American system at its inception
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty years ago was really great for
Speaker 2: kind of a postcolonial or newly colonized system, but it's
Speaker 2: gotten big. It's huge. I mean, we got a huge government,
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty million people, and you had something
Speaker 2: that was created when there's what ten million, maybe I
Speaker 2: don't know what the actual population was. It was nothing
Speaker 2: like now so but in a lot of ways, the
Speaker 2: means of ind I mean, the classical liberal means of
Speaker 2: bill of rights and due process of law made this
Speaker 2: country really what it is. As great as this kind
Speaker 2: of working of non tyrannical dictatorial authoritarian systems, but going
Speaker 2: through processes that everybody agrees on are hopefully fair, which
Speaker 2: really aren't. I mean, if you see what they did
Speaker 2: to the general and stuff, the judiciary is in real trouble.
Speaker 2: But I think back in the day, that's a good system.
Speaker 2: I think it's a very good system when the laws
Speaker 2: are actually accurately enforced.
Speaker 1: Well, the reason I asked is Obama just said he
Speaker 1: was an interview with Nancy Pelosi and Eric Holder are
Speaker 1: probably two of the worst people ever any ended the
Speaker 1: interview you can find on on Twitter. I retweeted, I
Speaker 1: don't even need to pull it up, but basically saying, oh,
Speaker 1: we're going to see how this America's democratic democratic experiment
Speaker 1: will work. Like that's what he had. That's how he
Speaker 1: described our current situation. This is Obama saying that it's
Speaker 1: an experiment. Now, I know, America's only what two hundred
Speaker 1: and change years old, and I guess you technically, maybe
Speaker 1: you could say it's an experiment.
Speaker 2: The longest running republic in history.
Speaker 1: Well perfect still republic. But what I'm saying is he's
Speaker 1: already putting out the predictive programming that it's an experiment,
Speaker 1: that the system needs to be totally it's just an experiment,
Speaker 1: and you know what it finally the experiment failed. You know,
Speaker 1: we realized it failed, so we got to do it
Speaker 1: all over again, which is really dangerous.
Speaker 2: I mean it's incredible. I mean, you have this massive
Speaker 2: book fraud, and when that goes, if the country goes,
Speaker 2: if they decide that this per present system is not
Speaker 2: good or they're going to rewrite history, it's going to
Speaker 2: have devastating results and it's going to be a disaster.
Speaker 2: And also a lot of these people realize they should
Speaker 2: go watch the breakup of Yugoslavia or breakup of Russia
Speaker 2: or some of these these other countries that fell apart
Speaker 2: and see what happens because googlebotch the Google look at
Speaker 2: the breakup of Yugoslavia's.
Speaker 1: Well, that's my last question. How does America break up?
Speaker 1: This text? In your opinion? I know you don't know,
Speaker 1: but just does to Texas succeed and we become the
Speaker 1: country of Texas, Does Louisiana join us and we've become
Speaker 1: the Texas Louisiana connections, you know what I mean. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, there are going to be states a team.
Speaker 1: I feel like these some of these states. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: if Texas succeeded, and said we're going to be our
Speaker 1: own country. I would have to go with that. I
Speaker 1: would have to succeed.
Speaker 2: If you live there, you don't really have a choice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I think that, like if you look at
Speaker 2: the war between the States, if you want to call
Speaker 2: it out of the Civil War, I mean, Lincoln was
Speaker 2: trying to keep the Union together and house to body
Speaker 2: cannot stand. So I think that right now, it's almost
Speaker 2: like a weird thing where it's not geographical differences, it's
Speaker 2: actually urban rural. So really, these urban centers of New York,
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, San Francisco on the West coast are really
Speaker 2: the ones that are at odds with the rest of
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right, You're a hundred percent right,
Speaker 1: because Dallas is now a liberal place. Texas is very conservative.
Speaker 1: You know, Austin's liberally.
Speaker 2: Go to Austin. Austin is like Bley, It's Berkeley in.
Speaker 1: The Midwest exactly, and the rest of Texas was not
Speaker 1: like that whatsoever.
Speaker 2: So that's the way it is all over the country now.
Speaker 2: So these are its been in a rural and that
Speaker 2: that's if I was urban and I was going to
Speaker 2: push for a civil war breakdown the system. I would
Speaker 2: be I would think very carefully about that, because the
Speaker 2: people who controls the land, control what you eat, what
Speaker 2: you get, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: That's going to be the problem when they could easily
Speaker 1: just you know, shut us down. It's you know, all
Speaker 1: the pipelines we could the grocery store right now is
Speaker 1: they don't even have the power ad zero, Like, I go,
Speaker 1: where's the power? Oh, we haven't got to ship it in.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, this would be very simple
Speaker 1: for them to cut off our supply lines and we'd
Speaker 1: go hungry like that like that, wait.
Speaker 2: Til three days, three days people without food, they go
Speaker 2: absolutely crazy. Go look at the Russian Revolution and the
Speaker 2: French Revolution, both based upon food. It all started in
Speaker 2: Russia because some lady didn't get her bread and she
Speaker 2: chucked a rock through a window and it just drove
Speaker 2: everybody else crazy. That's literally go back and look at
Speaker 2: that in nineteen seventeen. So yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: It's a blake.
Speaker 2: I lived in an urban center, I'd be thinking, like,
Speaker 2: I need to have food for three or four months.
Speaker 1: I got I have. I have over one hundred pounds
Speaker 1: of rice. Now I know that's not you don't tell
Speaker 1: anybody that I know, because the people who don't prep
Speaker 1: are going to be in a real world a hurt
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be running around the streets with guns
Speaker 1: un fortunately. Okay.
Speaker 2: Thing is that it evolves, man, it goes, and it escalates.
Speaker 2: Go go look at how the Yugoslavia fell apart.
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch a YouTube video on it right now.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the best you think, that's like probably
Speaker 1: the best example of what potential because.
Speaker 2: It was ethnic and it was different, and people got
Speaker 2: kicked out and they had to move. So the Serbs
Speaker 2: got kicked out of Croatia and then the Muslims got abused,
Speaker 2: and I mean it was healskided and it was like
Speaker 2: a little like harved out little pieces of land that
Speaker 2: they had. People had to move in large groups and
Speaker 2: there were it was almost like a trail of tears.
Speaker 2: People had to go one place to the other and
Speaker 2: the lucky ones got out early and the ones who didn't.
Speaker 1: That's why they do the trail of tears, so you
Speaker 1: die along the trail.
Speaker 2: I mean that they did that, and that's the Armenian genocide,
Speaker 2: when the Turkish people genocideed the Armenians. That's really how
Speaker 2: they did it. Thing it didn't feed them and.
Speaker 1: Made a walk and then they just you just lose
Speaker 1: people on the way because some people aren't. You know,
Speaker 1: my mom couldn't you know, yeah, mom, what I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: my mom couldn't last a genocide if they had my
Speaker 1: mom walking and moving around. My mom, you know, she's
Speaker 1: not an elder lady.
Speaker 4: I just my mom.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't Some people like I'm saying, wouldn't be I could
Speaker 1: make it if they made me walk around the desert.
Speaker 1: I'm a six three strong man. I'm just saying most
Speaker 1: people wouldn't, or a lot of people that are delicate,
Speaker 1: and it's crazy that we have.
Speaker 2: To think about that like that's really I mean, it's
Speaker 2: appareblel it's very perileus times. I wish it wasn't the case.
Speaker 1: And I worry about that because I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: a baby. I'm thirty four years old. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I like to think it kind of just you know,
Speaker 1: when I'm walking or exercising, like you know, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be around in twenty thirty, something weird is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I mean, weird stuf's going to happen before then. But
Speaker 1: twenty thirty, William, something freaking weird is going to happen.
Speaker 1: I don't know what, but I'm not looking forward to
Speaker 1: whatever game plan where they press play on the record player,
Speaker 1: whatever song is going to play, because it is not
Speaker 1: going to be a pretty one my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's it almost feels like you're in
Speaker 2: biblical time, so well, I would I would plan accordingly.
Speaker 1: Where can they find you? I got the link to description? William,
Speaker 1: What do you want to tell the people before we
Speaker 1: go today? And in such a pleasure to have you
Speaker 1: on anytime you want to come on, I definitely want
Speaker 1: to have you on again.
Speaker 2: Great, it's great to talk with you. All my videos
Speaker 2: of documentaries if you want to see them or on Vimeo,
Speaker 2: you can just look up William Ramsey. My Folks are
Speaker 2: available on Amazon and then you can buy signed copies
Speaker 2: through my website, William Ramsey Investigates dot com.
Speaker 1: Well, William, we talked about nine to eleven. We talked
Speaker 1: about the symbolism last saying, do you think Dick Cheney
Speaker 1: idolized Alistair Crowley? You think he was in Alastair Crowley?
Speaker 2: Well, there's definitely to me a connection with the bone
Speaker 2: and skull and bones and probably some of those ideas.
Speaker 2: They probably have some of Crowley's ideas in the library.
Speaker 2: And there's a decent chance that George Bush Junior is
Speaker 2: the offspring of Alistair b.
Speaker 1: That's what they say that his mom, his mom was
Speaker 1: Alistair Crowley's daughter. So that think about that, guys, just
Speaker 1: want you all to think about that. Theoretically the president
Speaker 1: of the United States, dad, our grandfather was Alistair Crowley. Theoretically.
Speaker 1: Now we don't know this. This is you know, remember
Speaker 1: an any window. But if you look at the picture,
Speaker 1: I want you go look at the picture of Alistair Crowley.
Speaker 1: I want you to go look at a picture of
Speaker 1: Barbara Bush. They looked like his freaking daughter.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's Marvin cock Harley Balckheads just did both.
Speaker 1: And they looked weird. They had the weird No, they
Speaker 1: just had this weird this kind of peculiar facus.
Speaker 2: You can put them, you can to overlap their faces.
Speaker 2: It's very strange in her timing and Crowley's and where
Speaker 2: she was born and her mom, Pauline Robinson.
Speaker 1: What was her mom? To talk about her mom? Real
Speaker 1: quick because what was the weird. Her mom was like
Speaker 1: a horror.
Speaker 2: She was from a wealthy family and she was in
Speaker 2: She was friends with a friend of Curley. So Curley's
Speaker 2: friend was hair Harriss and then Pauline O'Hara was her name.
Speaker 1: But she was into sex magic, right, wasn't her mom?
Speaker 1: And upposedly into sex magic and c that was back
Speaker 1: in the day.
Speaker 2: That's what the kind of wealthy. They went to the
Speaker 2: City of Lights. They went to France in the twenties.
Speaker 2: That was a desireable place to go. So anyway, a
Speaker 2: lot of authors, Crowley and Pauline Robinson was known to
Speaker 2: be there. And when she came back, she came back
Speaker 2: pregnant and she had.
Speaker 1: She's for sure she got pregnant in Paris. She was
Speaker 1: there on the scene. It's just so obvious.
Speaker 2: Look at a picture. Go look at a picture Barbara
Speaker 2: Bush and her family. She is an outlier. She's a
Speaker 2: genetic outlier's she's not one of them. She's not her dad.
Speaker 4: Go look.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can look at the family photo on Google.
Speaker 1: But do you think George Bush maybe knows or do
Speaker 1: you think he has no idea? Last question, anything, he'd
Speaker 1: have to know. That's what I'm saying. I had to know.
Speaker 2: Look, there's Christian families that stay Christian Presbyterian for three generations.
Speaker 2: There's people who are Mormons for three Jews for generation generational.
Speaker 2: There's occult families, and they hang out with each other,
Speaker 2: they secret societies, they hang out a bullying grove.
Speaker 1: And William, if my dad told me to do go
Speaker 1: into a group of people, wear a robe or whatever,
Speaker 1: even no matter how fucked up it was, I would
Speaker 1: trust my dad or not a matter of trust somebody
Speaker 1: in my family. I know it's weird. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's okay to being a cool too, but if I
Speaker 1: was led by my parents to do something, I would
Speaker 1: usually listen to my parents. So what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: I can see how generations of this happened because they
Speaker 1: were raised into it, so it just is normal to them, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, that must have been an interesting conversation when
Speaker 2: the father who's passed away says, son, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: a member of this group. And we get up, we
Speaker 2: put on ropes and scream at each other and lying coffins,
Speaker 2: and I take a pion on you and you p.
Speaker 1: On me, and then we kill an animal and we
Speaker 1: pour the blood on each other.
Speaker 4: I mean, the other's under the cloth.
Speaker 2: And that's the way it is, and that's the way
Speaker 2: it was for me and my dad. So you're in
Speaker 2: the same thing. You're the firstborn son. Welcome to club.
Speaker 1: Amen. Brother, I'm sure that's exactly how he was to
Speaker 1: talk to all right, guys, we love you William, I
Speaker 1: love you, brother. Thank you for coming on peace and
Speaker 1: to make sure