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<v Speaker 1>K BLA Talk fifteen eighty. Good morning, Good morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>God bless I'm Dominiqua Prima.

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<v Speaker 2>The show us called.

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<v Speaker 1>First Things First, and my first thing every day is prayer, giving, thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>praises and asking for blessings from God, asking for the

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<v Speaker 1>blessings of the ancestors and the elders.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. It's a busy season. And I'm glad we're here together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we can do this. And this today is

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<v Speaker 1>a talking point Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>This is when we.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to debunk, deflate, or flip around the talking points

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<v Speaker 1>that don't serve us, don't serve our community, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even know where they came from. I will

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<v Speaker 1>ask you to help out in that project. You're always

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<v Speaker 1>invited in at eight hundred nine to fifteen eighty eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred nine, two oh fifteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>It also happens to be a.

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<v Speaker 1>Primary day in Florida and Alaska, like every week is

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<v Speaker 1>a primary day. But of course we are in that

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<v Speaker 1>season all the way up and through November. So the

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<v Speaker 1>way we do things on a Tuesday hour one, we

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<v Speaker 1>look left, left coast, what's going on around here as

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<v Speaker 1>it connects to the world. Hour two we go national,

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<v Speaker 1>international and beyond, and in the third hour we do

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<v Speaker 1>a deep dive on a hot topic person or persons

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<v Speaker 1>of interest. We are on point with that today. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's me you the microphone, telephone, your Twitter fingers, your

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram thumbs, whatever you got going on, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>call me on the old fashioned landline.

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<v Speaker 2>At eight hundred and nine.

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<v Speaker 1>To fifteen eighty hour two, I'll be joined by my

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<v Speaker 1>colleague doctor Ni Cordlai Corte, who can give us a

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<v Speaker 1>clearer picture of all these various primaries, not just the

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<v Speaker 1>two today, but the last couple and where they leave

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<v Speaker 1>us ahead of November, and of course you're invited in

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<v Speaker 1>to that conversation as well. In our three we will

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<v Speaker 1>look at what is the real story behind the La

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<v Speaker 1>Jazz Festivals collapse, demise, postponement, what is it really what

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<v Speaker 1>actually happened. As you probably know, I am on the

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<v Speaker 1>board of the La Jazz Festival Foundation, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>charitable arm of that enterprise, and I will be joined

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<v Speaker 1>by Martin Ludlow, the visionary behind that, and he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do a deep dive on what really happened, what's

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<v Speaker 1>really happening as it's still in motion and I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>taking your questions and your phone calls as per usual.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got a lot to get to today, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that we can do it together. My my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the story yesterday?

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<v Speaker 2>There was a poll that.

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<v Speaker 1>Came out I think I'm going to say end of

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<v Speaker 1>last week that showed Mayor Karen Bass ahead in the

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<v Speaker 1>race to be for her reelection by like twelve points.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a double digit lead. It was a big story.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the company behind that pole is saying that

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't true, that it was a fake poll, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd smell a rat. You know, there's so much to

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<v Speaker 1>unbox here if you really look at it. This company

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<v Speaker 1>claims that the poll they did the poll knowing it

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<v Speaker 1>was fake because they were trying to show that how

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<v Speaker 1>quickly information can get into the public sphere and how

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<v Speaker 1>quickly it can be spread around the internet. And why,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, first of all, why now they're called Median Strategies.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they say they're getting out of the polling business

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<v Speaker 1>and that all of their polls past or present are

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<v Speaker 1>just to be ignored. They said that their polling project

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<v Speaker 1>will not publish additional polls. Hmmm, I smell a rat.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you your little social experiment, Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>target the LA mayor's race just in particular?

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you decide, out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all the primaries in all the country and all

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<v Speaker 1>the world, you just thought you'd do a fake poll

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<v Speaker 1>about a black woman running for reelection and then pull

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<v Speaker 1>it so that she could look bad. Really, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you decided. Even so, she had nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>that poll. It wasn't her poll. She didn't pay for it,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't commission it. But of course she's gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Anyone would talk about polling that shows that

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing well. That's the nature of politics, radio, corporate culture, anything, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's just what people do. The Roman campaign is jumping

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<v Speaker 1>on it, saying they published the poll without setting it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're telling me is that your campaign independently

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<v Speaker 1>verifies and audits every single poll, no matter any poll,

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<v Speaker 1>before you tout it. I seriously doubt that I've worked

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<v Speaker 1>on enough campaigns. I'm not a campaign strategist, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>worked on, been around, been behind the scenes of enough

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<v Speaker 1>campaigns to know that they don't say, oh, let's independently

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<v Speaker 1>they're a by this poll, not favorable polls. They now

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<v Speaker 1>say it wasn't even a poll. Can we get an investigation?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you if I had the means, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be investigating who's behind this median strategies?

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<v Speaker 2>Who who's who.

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<v Speaker 1>The owners of this company, who are they friends of?

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<v Speaker 1>And who do they back in the in the race

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<v Speaker 1>for La mayor. It's just a little too convenient. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the Maya deleted her posts where she had put it

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<v Speaker 1>up there, and her campaign spokesperson said any bad faith

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<v Speaker 1>attempts to influence elections should be investigated and prosecuted to

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<v Speaker 1>the fullest extent of the law. I do agree, I yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would it seems really fishy to me anyway this

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<v Speaker 1>to if this is what we're doing, If this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we are doing in this campaign cycle, fasten your

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<v Speaker 1>seat belts. It's gonna be a bumpy ride. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see how it cannot be if that's the direction that

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<v Speaker 1>we are going here in La And it appears that

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<v Speaker 1>we are just based on some of the posts and

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth that I have seen so far, and

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't even it's not even after Labor Day yet,

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<v Speaker 1>when This stuff really starts in earnest. It's not just politics,

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<v Speaker 1>it's arts, culture, it's relationships, it's how doggone hot. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be today, tomorrow and the next day. All of

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<v Speaker 1>that is on the table. That's what we do around here.

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<v Speaker 1>First things first, whatever your first thing is, I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from you always at eight hundred and nine

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<v Speaker 1>two fifteen eighty, Part two or maybe part five of

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<v Speaker 1>an possibly infinite heat wave is upon us today.

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<v Speaker 2>So hydrate, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Where, find a cooling station, where itty bitty clothes, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>It's about to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot today, tomorrow and the next day. And yeah, don't

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<v Speaker 1>play with matches. I mean, it's weird hot. It's humid hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's al Nino, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what that is, but it is hot. Reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of New Jersey when I would go home to

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<v Speaker 1>visit my dad. So you know, you'd all be sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>in the basement because it was so humid and hot

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<v Speaker 1>and muggy. This is not La hot.

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<v Speaker 2>This is some.

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<v Speaker 1>Climate emergency kind of weather. In any case, you know

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<v Speaker 1>the cooling stations you can call three one one you

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<v Speaker 1>can get a list and go to libraries. They welcome

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<v Speaker 1>you in on hot days like this might maybe you'll

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<v Speaker 1>read a book, get a little smarter. But even if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't, there's air conditioning and Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, we're in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Middle of another midweek blaze, so get ready, and we

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<v Speaker 1>do have a lot to talk about. The District Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>had a press conference yesterday. I'm regarding Keith Porter. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>look at that and more when we come forward on

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<v Speaker 1>KBLA Talk fifteen eighty. Right now, we're back to me

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<v Speaker 1>and we're back to you at eight hundred and nine

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<v Speaker 1>to two oh, fifteen eighty. So after months, literally months,

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<v Speaker 1>because this happened on New Year's Eve, when a person

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<v Speaker 1>who lived in the same building as Keith Porter murdered him.

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<v Speaker 1>That person happened to be an off duty ice agent. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>the District Attorney's off met with the family and met

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<v Speaker 1>with Keith Porter's mom. Keith Porter is a black American.

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<v Speaker 2>Born and raised.

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<v Speaker 1>No kind of immigration anything, not that that should make

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<v Speaker 1>you more or less eligible to be murdered by law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>But just for the record, he was allegedly shooting into

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<v Speaker 1>the air in his apartment complex, and this guy Pelasio's,

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<v Speaker 1>who also lived in the complex, allegedly told him to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>He then called it in saying the guy was an

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<v Speaker 1>active shooter. But he goes back into his apartment, puts

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<v Speaker 1>on his ice gear, comes back out and shoots Keith

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<v Speaker 1>Porter dead. Porter was allegedly at the time reportedly done.

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<v Speaker 1>He had been shooting off in a parking lot where

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<v Speaker 1>people weren't around. He was walking back towards his apartment

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<v Speaker 1>and he was killed. Now, the community is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that outed this Plasios guy, Brian Plasios. They because he

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<v Speaker 1>had his own problems with his own baby's mother, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had been accused of I don't know, child abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>I think yeah, child abuse. That they actually were the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that outed him. And then people including various news

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<v Speaker 1>agencies and community activists organizations like Black Lives Matter, Grassroots,

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<v Speaker 1>bl MLA, you know, put the word out and then

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<v Speaker 1>the press reported, after they did their own whatever they did,

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<v Speaker 1>that it was this guy, Brian Plasio's and the community

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<v Speaker 1>and the family have been calling for this guy Pelasios

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<v Speaker 1>to be arrested, charged, fired, anything, and we've heard nothing. Well, yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>the DA's office did meet with the family Hawkman's office said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't usually meet with victims' families this

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<v Speaker 1>early in an investigation. He didn't call them victims, those

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<v Speaker 1>are my words, but that given how high profile this

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<v Speaker 1>case is, and given the request, the repeated request of.

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<v Speaker 2>The attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>In the case, Jamal Tewson, that they decided to go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and meet with the family. What's interesting is they

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<v Speaker 1>have not committed to bringing charges. The family is asking

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<v Speaker 1>for a grand jury here, and Hawkman said they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>made that determination yet. They're still trying to claim that

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Porter shot at this guy. But I'm quite convinced

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<v Speaker 1>that if there was evidence that that had happened, and

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<v Speaker 1>the LAPD would have trumpeted it all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how they love to talk about the victims

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<v Speaker 1>of law enforcement violence and smear their own their characters.

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<v Speaker 1>So I seriously doubt that is the case. Especially you know,

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<v Speaker 1>firing into the air to celebrate on New Year's is

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<v Speaker 1>not an active shooter. You might not like it, it

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<v Speaker 1>might be illegal, but it happens all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>those people are not considered active shooters. So they're saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was you know, Homeland Security, which every single

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<v Speaker 1>case of them killing people citizens and not. They always

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<v Speaker 1>say the officer feared for their life and the person

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to kill the officer, either the ice person,

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<v Speaker 1>either with a vehicle or a gun or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, magic spell, I don't know. They're always

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<v Speaker 1>justified it, so that is not convincing. It's interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>the La Times says a law enforcement official had told

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<v Speaker 1>them that detectives found evidence of two bullets behind where

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<v Speaker 1>Pelasio's was standing, but we have never heard that claim again,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't say in this latest article. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>say what law enforcement agency told them that. Was it

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<v Speaker 1>the LAPD, was it Homeland Security? Was it the Sheriff's department?

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<v Speaker 1>Who wasn't And why have we never heard about that again?

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<v Speaker 1>The attorney says, you know that presenting the case of

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<v Speaker 1>And the district attorney hasn't said no. He hasn't said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but he hasn't said no. And I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we keep saying his name, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Angelinos and others who protest ice, you know, once they

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<v Speaker 1>continue to say his name. Are not letting this just

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<v Speaker 1>go under the carpet. And so the DA's saying he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't ruled out a grand jury. He's calling on more

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses to come forward if they, you know, if they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't come forward yet. And he met with a family.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a good at least a good sign.

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<v Speaker 1>Their attorney says, there were no eyewitnesses. Now, I was there,

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<v Speaker 1>not at the shooting, obviously, right, I'm not what's his name,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Jennings, who claims he was talking to Mitch McConnell.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't there at the shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there at the vigil that they did for

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Porter shortly after he was murdered. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the remarkable things about it is that it was packed

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of Latinos, there were some white folks.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy, Keith Porter, was very popular in his building

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<v Speaker 1>and at his job. A lot of the Latino folks

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<v Speaker 1>that were there who got there early, who were there

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<v Speaker 1>with flowers, who were crying mourning. This guy worked with

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<v Speaker 1>him at the home depot. And then the white folks

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<v Speaker 1>that were there, were people from the building that knew him,

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple that didn't know him that were just

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<v Speaker 1>very distressed at what had happened. And then of course,

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<v Speaker 1>his family is extended family Black Lives Matter, LA. His

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<v Speaker 1>cousin is a member of that organization, and.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the people in the building were.

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<v Speaker 1>Really skeptical about what happened because they were saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they they didn't hear anything, and it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make any sense. And people, you know, talking about his

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<v Speaker 1>character and what a wonderful person he was, what a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the kind of guy that just helped anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that needed help. And that was the thing that struck

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<v Speaker 1>me from his people, his coworkers at the job, his family,

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<v Speaker 1>and the people from the building that did know him. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that I don't know, the LAPDS

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<v Speaker 1>completed their investigation, which means that the DA could bring

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<v Speaker 1>charges if he wanted to. And I don't know what eyewitness,

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<v Speaker 1>what witnesses, you know, he's he's talked to him who

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't if he's talked to all of those folks

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<v Speaker 1>that were there at that vigil or not, But they

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<v Speaker 1>need to charge this guy. It's you know what it's

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<v Speaker 1>reminding me of. It's reminding me of George Simmerman, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you look back to the Trayvon Martin case, there

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<v Speaker 1>Zimmerman was running around for a long time with no

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<v Speaker 1>charges being filed. He was not arrested until we the

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<v Speaker 1>people started talking about it, right, I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>think back at the now, you know, it seems like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, of course there was a trial and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about it. Even the President weighed in. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was the activists on the ground. There are the

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<v Speaker 1>dream Keepers there and in Florida, the family and others

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<v Speaker 1>who wouldn't let it go, who kept protesting, who kept

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<v Speaker 1>calling for the arrest of this guy, And even though

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<v Speaker 1>he got off, there never would have been a trial,

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<v Speaker 1>There never would have been a conversation. Even you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the founding of Black Lives Matter was largely was largely

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by the activism in the wake of his murder.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's reminding me of that because if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>for the community and Black Lives Matter LA and the

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<v Speaker 1>family and the attorney just not giving up and refusing

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<v Speaker 1>to stop saying Keith Porter, Keith Porter, Keith Porter, then

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<v Speaker 1>this would have been already swept under the carpet. There

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<v Speaker 1>would be no conversation about it. We would not be

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<v Speaker 1>having a press conference with the DA yesterday saying he's

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about convening a grand jury. And so I say

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<v Speaker 1>all of that to say that we have to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it up. We have to keep you know, look commenting

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<v Speaker 1>under every post about ice murders, Keith Porter, say his name,

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<v Speaker 1>commenting you know, to the DA, who has a very

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<v Speaker 1>robust social media presence, or writing emails to them, or

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<v Speaker 1>writing to you know, your council members that heck the

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<v Speaker 1>police chief that they conducted an investigation. Why aren't they

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<v Speaker 1>pressing for charges?

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<v Speaker 2>Like all of these folks are.

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<v Speaker 1>Worth reaching out to, because we still need justice for

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Borter, News.

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<v Speaker 2>Traffic and Sports then more.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Dominique, the Primia for KVLA Talk fifteen eighty. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I do appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you waking up with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The uh, the trial they call it the trial of

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<v Speaker 1>Tupac shakor the murder trial, it's really the trial of

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<v Speaker 1>Duayne Davis. I mean, because Tupac is no longer with us,

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<v Speaker 1>rest in peace. This happened thirty years ago. They did

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<v Speaker 1>opening statements on yesterday, prosecutors say it was all about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a gang rivalry, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Again you wonder, okay, if you know all this, why

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<v Speaker 1>why is it coming now? Why is it all? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is this coming out now? They're saying that mister Davis

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<v Speaker 1>ordered the murder of Tupac. They're also saying that Pak

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<v Speaker 1>was conscious after he was shot when he was on

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<v Speaker 1>his way to the hospital, but that he wasn't cooperating.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they're claiming.

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<v Speaker 3>It.

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<v Speaker 2>According to.

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<v Speaker 1>Their first witness, Gary Dale, who is from your home town, Miles,

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas Metro police officer who wrote in the ambulance

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<v Speaker 1>with him. At least that's what he says.

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<v Speaker 2>And that.

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<v Speaker 1>He says that when he asked Tupac who shot him,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pac said no, we'll take care of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that he would refuse to speak any further.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I I know that there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of documentaries and books and speculations about Po's murder, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've had my own private conversations with people that knew

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<v Speaker 1>him really well, people from Vegas, people from here. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say that I've read every do you read

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<v Speaker 1>every every book? And watch every documentary about Tupac's murder.

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<v Speaker 3>Have never will why it's water day. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to sound insensitive because you know you're

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<v Speaker 4>doing more than I'm doing. But it feels insensitive and genuine,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't need to get into the weeds and

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<v Speaker 4>everything to, you know, to to feel how I feel

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<v Speaker 4>about the situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't change anything about me at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to figure out why I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I knew him and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was really really sad.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because I don't trust it too. It

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<v Speaker 1>just seems like a bunch of blah blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you really were going to tell the truth

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<v Speaker 1>about what happened to Tupac, why did it take thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years and even the ones that you know, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>documentaries and there's been articles and books in between those

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years, But I just it's it's kind of I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't feel like we're getting the truth, the whole,

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<v Speaker 1>even of what they actually know. And maybe that makes

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<v Speaker 1>me a conspiracy theorist, but my gut says, nah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>fishy as hell.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm right there with you. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm said, I'm not following this trial. I haven't been

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<v Speaker 4>following the trial step by step like that. So and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't plan on, uh if, I don't plan on

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<v Speaker 4>watching this whole episode to the very end, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see the results of it for sure, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not attached to it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, to his brother's point, none of

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<v Speaker 1>it is going to bring Pop back, right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I feel like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to let you guys know this is happening and

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<v Speaker 1>follow it to the extent of, you know, anything that

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<v Speaker 1>seems to come out that feels relevant. But basically they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying the you know, two rival gangs in LA and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what led to it, you know, kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff we already have heard. I mean, I guess from

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<v Speaker 1>Duayne Keefe d himself, from various people speculating. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>after my auntie Kimako Jones, who was also aka Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>Elaine Jones, who was an you know, a Broadway actress

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<v Speaker 1>and a dancer, my dad's sister, when she was murdered,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then again when my sister, my younger sister,

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<v Speaker 1>Shawnee was murdered. My dad would challenge, you know, law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 1>why is it taking you so long? Isn't this what

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<v Speaker 1>you do? And so again thirty years later. It just

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't sound credible. But perhaps I'll follow a little

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<v Speaker 1>closer this time, since they're since they've taken it to

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<v Speaker 1>actual court. Yeah. I also think about this in terms of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people's lyrics now being used against them, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's really popular in Georgia, but it's it's something we'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably be seeing more and more of. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, this guy's book and all of his podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>and radio interviews and TV being used against him and

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<v Speaker 1>now he's denying that. I yeah, I don't think that works.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know does this change the record? Does

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<v Speaker 1>this change the official record?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>What will it take for us to really know what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to Tupac or Biggie.

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<v Speaker 2>For that matter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, why are these two crimes still largely unsolved?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't sit right with me, but FYI, the trial

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<v Speaker 1>is well underway and Selena says, I don't like stories

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<v Speaker 1>with violent endings. Well, yeah, and we don't. And any

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<v Speaker 1>c Courton calls it fabricated narratives and the exploitation of

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<v Speaker 1>another black man. And of course, you know, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be great if we could bring him back or bring

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<v Speaker 1>some measure of relief onto his family. But from what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing from them, they don't find that to be

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't surprise me either, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thirty years later, when my sister was murdered, the

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<v Speaker 1>killer was on the loose four I don't know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to say over a week, maybe a week and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. And it was excruciating that week and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>like where is this guy? Are they going to find him?

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<v Speaker 1>We knew who it was, and I just can't even

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<v Speaker 1>imagine for Pox's family thirty years of like getting mixed

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<v Speaker 1>stories and rumors and and and biopics and books and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's got a theory, but nobody's coming to you with anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Verifiable.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even imagine that week and a week and

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<v Speaker 1>a half of waiting for, you know, some answers around

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<v Speaker 1>my sister Shawnie was like felt like ten years. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if anything, I'm sending out prayers and love

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<v Speaker 1>light to the family of Tupac Shicre for sure right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because they gotta relive their trauma every time we do this. Myles,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you make of Genie Buss holding up the

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<v Speaker 1>sale of the Lakers? I, you know, I I find

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of cool. I don't know that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Richardson just said, it's that she wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>their official spokesperson at the Board of Governors. I wonder

425
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<v Speaker 1>if it has anything to do with who's buying it,

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00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:46.039
<v Speaker 1>who's buying them and and you know what the politics

427
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<v Speaker 1>behind this are.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean just on the face of it, I mean,

429
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<v Speaker 4>it's that's a daddy's legacy.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>I get it one hundred percent. I get you still

432
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<v Speaker 4>want to be a part of it. I mean, look, Lakers,

433
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<v Speaker 4>I don't see that even with Lebron leaving, you know,

434
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't see that being a dying brand

435
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<v Speaker 4>going forward for the next decade, maybe twenty years. The

436
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:14.440
<v Speaker 4>NBA is still growing and expanding internationally. So I I

437
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<v Speaker 4>get her for trying to still be a part of

438
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<v Speaker 4>it in some way, shape or form, whether that be

439
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<v Speaker 4>for the personal love of it or just from the financial.

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<v Speaker 3>Point of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess that what they're saying is with.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dodgers owner.

443
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<v Speaker 1>When he bought it, Mark Walter, she would have still

444
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<v Speaker 1>been the representative. But now that Kushner and Bob Iger

445
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<v Speaker 1>are buying it and they would take the family stake,

446
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<v Speaker 1>then she would have been out the deal they had

447
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>she would still represent for five years, but now with

448
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Kushner buying it, she would no longer have that agency

449
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<v Speaker 1>to do that. She wouldn't be eligible. And there's five

450
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<v Speaker 1>siblings and they all five have to agree. That's funny

451
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<v Speaker 1>because my mom, you know, we don't have the Lakers.

452
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<v Speaker 1>We have some poetry books. We own books of poetry.

453
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<v Speaker 1>But the five of us all have to agree. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>actually no, we all five. We don't have to have

455
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<v Speaker 1>we have to have three out of five. They have

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<v Speaker 1>to have a unanimous five to do anything. We would

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<v Speaker 1>never get anything done if all five of us had

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<v Speaker 1>to agree, only three out of five. But can she

459
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<v Speaker 1>shut this down? I wonder if if she shuts down

460
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<v Speaker 1>that's seventeen percent that's still owned by this five siblings.

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<v Speaker 1>Would that prevent the deal from going forward? Or would

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<v Speaker 1>they just go forward with Kushner and Iiger. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>deal still has to be approved by the Board of

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<v Speaker 1>Governors for.

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<v Speaker 2>The NBA.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that's gonna What looks like to me

467
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<v Speaker 4>is that it's just the family still owns a percentage

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventeen Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she'll still be She'll still there'll still be over

471
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<v Speaker 4>that seventeen percent or fifteen.

472
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<v Speaker 2>Per No, but that's what they're trying to buy.

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<v Speaker 1>The seventeen percent Before, like Mark Walter, I guess they

474
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<v Speaker 1>were gonna keep that, but now the Kushner group wants

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<v Speaker 1>the whole what the whole thing? Yeah, they want the

476
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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, and the other four siblings have agreed to sell.

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<v Speaker 4>So what I'm saying is I think that what happen

478
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<v Speaker 4>is I think that I think the deal still even

479
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.599
<v Speaker 4>if Jenie Buss holds Titans and I'm gonna hold on

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<v Speaker 4>to this fifteen percent and stop the deal from being

481
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 4>the whole thing, I still think that she still may

482
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<v Speaker 4>be a part of the team. And if they do

483
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<v Speaker 4>end up selling it, but even if they don't end

484
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:37.359
<v Speaker 4>up telling it, I still see the team still being sold.

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<v Speaker 3>With her so old in seventy percent. That makes sense,

486
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<v Speaker 3>don't makes sense?

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying that even if they do sell that she

488
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<v Speaker 1>still could be the she could still be the face

489
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<v Speaker 1>of it. That might be the compromise.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they still take the eighty three percent regardless

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<v Speaker 4>if Genie wants to hold on to.

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<v Speaker 1>It, right Yeah, yeah, And she's been having she's been

493
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<v Speaker 1>fighting with her siblings anyway, they went to court about

494
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, their trust and who controls what, and they

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<v Speaker 1>may create a new deal in.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty seventeen, so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>It.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems like from what I'm reading, she has the power

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<v Speaker 1>to stop that, which would mean the Kushner family would

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<v Speaker 1>still have to have her as the face of the

501
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Lakers at the board of governors and for five years,

502
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<v Speaker 1>and that you know, I don't know, you know, she

503
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>would still have a pretty big footprint. A seventeen percent

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00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>share of the team is a powerful shareholder.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're saying, you know, with even without Lebron.

507
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Of course, the Lakers, you know, were huge before Lebron,

508
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>they'll be huge after Lebron. I just wonder about the

509
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:47.079
<v Speaker 1>whole Kushner thing and Eiger thing for the brand, because

510
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<v Speaker 1>I'm already hearing people on social media switching to the

511
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Clippers because they don't want to root for a team

512
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<v Speaker 1>that's owned by the family of Trump's in laws.

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<v Speaker 3>Basketball fans said, yeah, yeah.

514
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:06.480
<v Speaker 4>I get it, but that was okay, that just shocked

515
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.079
<v Speaker 4>right there to see the switch over because of the

516
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<v Speaker 4>team ownership.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got, oh yeah, I've maybe it's the people

518
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.280
<v Speaker 1>on my timeline, but they're basketball fans.

519
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.559
<v Speaker 4>Got some some dirt over there going on too in

520
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:19.840
<v Speaker 4>a Clippers organization, So well.

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00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, so what are you saying? Warriors?

522
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.440
<v Speaker 3>They got some dirt there too. Then got some dirt too, so.

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00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh no, pro sports, I've.

524
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 4>Got seventeen, got seventeen banners up there, got you know,

525
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:36.039
<v Speaker 4>all these retired jerseys and statues in the front, not

526
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 4>not the other two.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's all there is that I'll always be a

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00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.639
<v Speaker 1>fan of Kobe no matter what happens with all these

529
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<v Speaker 1>super wealthy team owners and their dirty laundry. Eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>nine two oh, fifteen eighty. If you want to weigh

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<v Speaker 1>in on any of the above, I'm Dominique Daprima for

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<v Speaker 1>KBLA Talk, fifteen eighty. Another huge case is moving forward

533
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<v Speaker 1>in California today, less splashy than the kify d murder trial,

534
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>but it is meta. The owners of Facebook and Instagram

535
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:16.360
<v Speaker 1>being sued by a bunch of state's attorney state attorneys general,

536
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<v Speaker 1>led by California's own Rob Bonta. They lost to New

537
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Mexico a couple of weeks ago, almost a billion dollars.

538
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>That loss Meta and the claim there the New Mexico

539
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Attorney General, Raoul Torres, who's also part of this lawsuit,

540
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:39.760
<v Speaker 1>was that they the algorithms intentionally addicted children and teens,

541
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<v Speaker 1>that the app fostered child exploitation. Opening arguments are this morning,

542
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 1>and they are trying to force the social media company

543
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:55.320
<v Speaker 1>to change Facebook and Instagram, change the designs. We could

544
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<v Speaker 1>see a massive judgment. I mean, we were talking about

545
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<v Speaker 1>almost a billion in New Mexico, which is tiny compared

546
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>to California, right, and California is you know, leading twenty

547
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:11.519
<v Speaker 1>other twenty nine excuse me, other attorneys general.

548
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:13.400
<v Speaker 2>So that's a lot.

549
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>It's more than half of our states. Obviously, this case

550
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 1>was brought in twenty twenty three, but it's going to

551
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>be argued here now, starting today. And there's a lot

552
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<v Speaker 1>of stake for Meta because first of all, they could

553
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, we're talking could be billions and

554
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:39.519
<v Speaker 1>billions and billions. Experts are calling Meta the new big tobacco. Right,

555
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:42.599
<v Speaker 1>Remember all the money they had to pay to mitigate

556
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:47.360
<v Speaker 1>all the harms that they did in addicting children and

557
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:54.639
<v Speaker 1>the health impacts on young people. They're calling it the

558
00:36:54.760 --> 00:37:00.519
<v Speaker 1>new big tobacco. And if you look at the billions

559
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and billions a big tobacco pay, this is what we're

560
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<v Speaker 1>talking about. But it's not only the money. Of course,

561
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:12.639
<v Speaker 1>the money is consequential, but it's also what changes can

562
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:16.679
<v Speaker 1>the state force to the design and the algorithm of

563
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:24.199
<v Speaker 1>these social media platforms. California is huge.

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00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:25.039
<v Speaker 3>It's like a.

565
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:28.679
<v Speaker 1>Country, right, and if they lose here, it's going to

566
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 1>be a big deal and it could be a lot

567
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of money. And you know, Mark Zuckerberg has invested a

568
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 1>whole pile of money in artificial intelligence. They're saying up

569
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:54.119
<v Speaker 1>to one hundred and forty five billion invested in artificial intelligence.

570
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Who pays for that? Facebook and Instagram? So if a

571
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<v Speaker 1>judge said, as you know what, you've got to change

572
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:07.599
<v Speaker 1>this algorithm, you have to change the design of this

573
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>whole app, it's going to cost him money. And that's

574
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be a problem because they're out over way

575
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 1>out over their skis. As the business people like to say,

576
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:25.159
<v Speaker 1>on artificial intelligence. A New Mexico judge said they had

577
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<v Speaker 1>to pay five hundred and sixty seven million into an

578
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:34.559
<v Speaker 1>abatement fund because of child exploitation allegations, another three hundred

579
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:40.159
<v Speaker 1>and seventy five million for violating the state's Unfair Practices Act.

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00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Of course, they're going to appeal it, and good luck

581
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.280
<v Speaker 1>with that. Maybe they'll get a Trump judge, or maybe

582
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:51.320
<v Speaker 1>they'll get all the way to the extreme court, you know,

583
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and pay folks off. But it's not looking good right now,

584
00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>right and with twenty nine states on the line, it's

585
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<v Speaker 1>not just the fact that California is ginormous, it's also

586
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the fact that California is leading all of these other

587
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>places that have the same complaints, including.

588
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:16.320
<v Speaker 2>What they say are.

589
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Deceptive practices around safety and age controls, which we all

590
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:25.920
<v Speaker 1>know are just a big joke. That's one of the

591
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.199
<v Speaker 1>things they've been ordered to do is in New Mexico

592
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:36.119
<v Speaker 1>is make it actually have actual age controls that actually work.

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00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:41.159
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing they're on the hook for is

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<v Speaker 1>lying to parents about just how dangerous these apps can

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00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>be for young minds. So a lot is on the

596
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>line in California today. For your favorite apps, your Facebook,

597
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>your Instagram, and if you look at the way, let's say,

598
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:03.679
<v Speaker 1>if you've ever tried to read an article that has

599
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>a paywall, if you've ever tried to get into one

600
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<v Speaker 1>of your own accounts without your password and two factor verification,

601
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you know that the Internet knows how to keep people

602
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.639
<v Speaker 1>out of places they want to keep people out of.

603
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:23.119
<v Speaker 1>And that is not what has been happening. It's why

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<v Speaker 1>I laugh when you know when you see people getting

605
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<v Speaker 1>censored on Twitter, where you can post pornography and Nazi propaganda,

606
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:40.519
<v Speaker 1>but apparently certain left wing buzzwords are problematic. They know

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<v Speaker 1>how to stop what they want to stop. So when

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<v Speaker 1>we see something not being stopped, we have to assume

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<v Speaker 1>that is intentional. Good luck to the twenty nine state

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<v Speaker 1>attorneys general in this case. Next hour, Mile I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>joined by my colleague doctor Nie Cordelais Coortell take a

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<v Speaker 1>look at the political landscape across the nation. I'm Dominique

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<v Speaker 1>Diaprima for KBLA Talk

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<v Speaker 2>Fifteen eighty KBLA fifteen eighty Santa Monica
