Speaker 1: K BLA Talk fifteen eighty. Good morning, Good morning, and
Speaker 1: God bless I'm Dominiqua Prima.
Speaker 2: The show us called.
Speaker 1: First Things First, and my first thing every day is prayer, giving, thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: praises and asking for blessings from God, asking for the
Speaker 1: blessings of the ancestors and the elders.
Speaker 2: And let's go.
Speaker 1: Man. It's a busy season. And I'm glad we're here together.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we can do this. And this today is
Speaker 1: a talking point Tuesday.
Speaker 2: This is when we.
Speaker 1: Try to debunk, deflate, or flip around the talking points
Speaker 1: that don't serve us, don't serve our community, and sometimes
Speaker 1: we don't even know where they came from. I will
Speaker 1: ask you to help out in that project. You're always
Speaker 1: invited in at eight hundred nine to fifteen eighty eight
Speaker 1: hundred nine, two oh fifteen eighty.
Speaker 2: It also happens to be a.
Speaker 1: Primary day in Florida and Alaska, like every week is
Speaker 1: a primary day. But of course we are in that
Speaker 1: season all the way up and through November. So the
Speaker 1: way we do things on a Tuesday hour one, we
Speaker 1: look left, left coast, what's going on around here as
Speaker 1: it connects to the world. Hour two we go national,
Speaker 1: international and beyond, and in the third hour we do
Speaker 1: a deep dive on a hot topic person or persons
Speaker 1: of interest. We are on point with that today. Right now,
Speaker 1: it's me you the microphone, telephone, your Twitter fingers, your
Speaker 1: Instagram thumbs, whatever you got going on, and you can
Speaker 1: call me on the old fashioned landline.
Speaker 2: At eight hundred and nine.
Speaker 1: To fifteen eighty hour two, I'll be joined by my
Speaker 1: colleague doctor Ni Cordlai Corte, who can give us a
Speaker 1: clearer picture of all these various primaries, not just the
Speaker 1: two today, but the last couple and where they leave
Speaker 1: us ahead of November, and of course you're invited in
Speaker 1: to that conversation as well. In our three we will
Speaker 1: look at what is the real story behind the La
Speaker 1: Jazz Festivals collapse, demise, postponement, what is it really what
Speaker 1: actually happened. As you probably know, I am on the
Speaker 1: board of the La Jazz Festival Foundation, which is the
Speaker 1: charitable arm of that enterprise, and I will be joined
Speaker 1: by Martin Ludlow, the visionary behind that, and he's going
Speaker 1: to do a deep dive on what really happened, what's
Speaker 1: really happening as it's still in motion and I'll be
Speaker 1: taking your questions and your phone calls as per usual.
Speaker 1: So we got a lot to get to today, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we can do it together. My my mind.
Speaker 1: Did you see the story yesterday?
Speaker 2: There was a poll that.
Speaker 1: Came out I think I'm going to say end of
Speaker 1: last week that showed Mayor Karen Bass ahead in the
Speaker 1: race to be for her reelection by like twelve points.
Speaker 1: It was a double digit lead. It was a big story.
Speaker 1: And now the company behind that pole is saying that
Speaker 1: it wasn't true, that it was a fake poll, and
Speaker 1: I'd smell a rat. You know, there's so much to
Speaker 1: unbox here if you really look at it. This company
Speaker 1: claims that the poll they did the poll knowing it
Speaker 1: was fake because they were trying to show that how
Speaker 1: quickly information can get into the public sphere and how
Speaker 1: quickly it can be spread around the internet. And why,
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, why now they're called Median Strategies.
Speaker 1: Now they say they're getting out of the polling business
Speaker 1: and that all of their polls past or present are
Speaker 1: just to be ignored. They said that their polling project
Speaker 1: will not publish additional polls. Hmmm, I smell a rat.
Speaker 1: Why would you your little social experiment, Why would you
Speaker 1: target the LA mayor's race just in particular?
Speaker 2: Why would you decide, out.
Speaker 1: Of all the primaries in all the country and all
Speaker 1: the world, you just thought you'd do a fake poll
Speaker 1: about a black woman running for reelection and then pull
Speaker 1: it so that she could look bad. Really, that's what
Speaker 1: you decided. Even so, she had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: that poll. It wasn't her poll. She didn't pay for it,
Speaker 1: she didn't commission it. But of course she's gonna talk
Speaker 1: about it. Anyone would talk about polling that shows that
Speaker 1: they're doing well. That's the nature of politics, radio, corporate culture, anything, right,
Speaker 1: That's just what people do. The Roman campaign is jumping
Speaker 1: on it, saying they published the poll without setting it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So what you're telling me is that your campaign independently
Speaker 1: verifies and audits every single poll, no matter any poll,
Speaker 1: before you tout it. I seriously doubt that I've worked
Speaker 1: on enough campaigns. I'm not a campaign strategist, but I've
Speaker 1: worked on, been around, been behind the scenes of enough
Speaker 1: campaigns to know that they don't say, oh, let's independently
Speaker 1: they're a by this poll, not favorable polls. They now
Speaker 1: say it wasn't even a poll. Can we get an investigation?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you if I had the means, I
Speaker 1: would be investigating who's behind this median strategies?
Speaker 2: Who who's who.
Speaker 1: The owners of this company, who are they friends of?
Speaker 1: And who do they back in the in the race
Speaker 1: for La mayor. It's just a little too convenient. Of course,
Speaker 1: the Maya deleted her posts where she had put it
Speaker 1: up there, and her campaign spokesperson said any bad faith
Speaker 1: attempts to influence elections should be investigated and prosecuted to
Speaker 1: the fullest extent of the law. I do agree, I yeah,
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Why would it seems really fishy to me anyway this
Speaker 1: to if this is what we're doing, If this is
Speaker 1: what we are doing in this campaign cycle, fasten your
Speaker 1: seat belts. It's gonna be a bumpy ride. I don't
Speaker 1: see how it cannot be if that's the direction that
Speaker 1: we are going here in La And it appears that
Speaker 1: we are just based on some of the posts and
Speaker 1: back and forth that I have seen so far, and
Speaker 1: we haven't even it's not even after Labor Day yet,
Speaker 1: when This stuff really starts in earnest. It's not just politics,
Speaker 1: it's arts, culture, it's relationships, it's how doggone hot. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be today, tomorrow and the next day. All of
Speaker 1: that is on the table. That's what we do around here.
Speaker 1: First things first, whatever your first thing is, I'd love
Speaker 1: to hear from you always at eight hundred and nine
Speaker 1: two fifteen eighty, Part two or maybe part five of
Speaker 1: an possibly infinite heat wave is upon us today.
Speaker 2: So hydrate, you know.
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Speaker 1: you got to do to feel comfortable.
Speaker 2: It's about to be.
Speaker 1: Hot today, tomorrow and the next day. And yeah, don't
Speaker 1: play with matches. I mean, it's weird hot. It's humid hot.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's al Nino, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what that is, but it is hot. Reminds
Speaker 1: me of New Jersey when I would go home to
Speaker 1: visit my dad. So you know, you'd all be sleeping
Speaker 1: in the basement because it was so humid and hot
Speaker 1: and muggy. This is not La hot.
Speaker 2: This is some.
Speaker 1: Climate emergency kind of weather. In any case, you know
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Speaker 1: you in on hot days like this might maybe you'll
Speaker 1: read a book, get a little smarter. But even if
Speaker 1: you don't, there's air conditioning and Wi Fi.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we're in the.
Speaker 1: Middle of another midweek blaze, so get ready, and we
Speaker 1: do have a lot to talk about. The District Attorney
Speaker 1: had a press conference yesterday. I'm regarding Keith Porter. We'll
Speaker 1: look at that and more when we come forward on
Speaker 1: KBLA Talk fifteen eighty. Right now, we're back to me
Speaker 1: and we're back to you at eight hundred and nine
Speaker 1: to two oh, fifteen eighty. So after months, literally months,
Speaker 1: because this happened on New Year's Eve, when a person
Speaker 1: who lived in the same building as Keith Porter murdered him.
Speaker 1: That person happened to be an off duty ice agent. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: the District Attorney's off met with the family and met
Speaker 1: with Keith Porter's mom. Keith Porter is a black American.
Speaker 2: Born and raised.
Speaker 1: No kind of immigration anything, not that that should make
Speaker 1: you more or less eligible to be murdered by law enforcement.
Speaker 1: But just for the record, he was allegedly shooting into
Speaker 1: the air in his apartment complex, and this guy Pelasio's,
Speaker 1: who also lived in the complex, allegedly told him to stop.
Speaker 1: He then called it in saying the guy was an
Speaker 1: active shooter. But he goes back into his apartment, puts
Speaker 1: on his ice gear, comes back out and shoots Keith
Speaker 1: Porter dead. Porter was allegedly at the time reportedly done.
Speaker 1: He had been shooting off in a parking lot where
Speaker 1: people weren't around. He was walking back towards his apartment
Speaker 1: and he was killed. Now, the community is the one
Speaker 1: that outed this Plasios guy, Brian Plasios. They because he
Speaker 1: had his own problems with his own baby's mother, and
Speaker 1: he had been accused of I don't know, child abuse,
Speaker 1: I think yeah, child abuse. That they actually were the
Speaker 1: ones that outed him. And then people including various news
Speaker 1: agencies and community activists organizations like Black Lives Matter, Grassroots,
Speaker 1: bl MLA, you know, put the word out and then
Speaker 1: the press reported, after they did their own whatever they did,
Speaker 1: that it was this guy, Brian Plasio's and the community
Speaker 1: and the family have been calling for this guy Pelasios
Speaker 1: to be arrested, charged, fired, anything, and we've heard nothing. Well, yesterday,
Speaker 1: the DA's office did meet with the family Hawkman's office said,
Speaker 1: you know, they don't usually meet with victims' families this
Speaker 1: early in an investigation. He didn't call them victims, those
Speaker 1: are my words, but that given how high profile this
Speaker 1: case is, and given the request, the repeated request of.
Speaker 2: The attorney.
Speaker 1: In the case, Jamal Tewson, that they decided to go
Speaker 1: ahead and meet with the family. What's interesting is they
Speaker 1: have not committed to bringing charges. The family is asking
Speaker 1: for a grand jury here, and Hawkman said they haven't
Speaker 1: made that determination yet. They're still trying to claim that
Speaker 1: Keith Porter shot at this guy. But I'm quite convinced
Speaker 1: that if there was evidence that that had happened, and
Speaker 1: the LAPD would have trumpeted it all over the world.
Speaker 1: You know how they love to talk about the victims
Speaker 1: of law enforcement violence and smear their own their characters.
Speaker 1: So I seriously doubt that is the case. Especially you know,
Speaker 1: firing into the air to celebrate on New Year's is
Speaker 1: not an active shooter. You might not like it, it
Speaker 1: might be illegal, but it happens all the time, and
Speaker 1: those people are not considered active shooters. So they're saying that,
Speaker 1: and that was you know, Homeland Security, which every single
Speaker 1: case of them killing people citizens and not. They always
Speaker 1: say the officer feared for their life and the person
Speaker 1: was trying to kill the officer, either the ice person,
Speaker 1: either with a vehicle or a gun or you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, magic spell, I don't know. They're always
Speaker 1: justified it, so that is not convincing. It's interesting that
Speaker 1: the La Times says a law enforcement official had told
Speaker 1: them that detectives found evidence of two bullets behind where
Speaker 1: Pelasio's was standing, but we have never heard that claim again,
Speaker 1: and they don't say in this latest article. They don't
Speaker 1: say what law enforcement agency told them that. Was it
Speaker 1: the LAPD, was it Homeland Security? Was it the Sheriff's department?
Speaker 1: Who wasn't And why have we never heard about that again?
Speaker 1: The attorney says, you know that presenting the case of
Speaker 1: the grand jury would mean would be the best case forward,
Speaker 1: And the district attorney hasn't said no. He hasn't said yes,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't said no. And I think that this
Speaker 1: is an indication, in my opinion, that the protesting, the
Speaker 1: fact that we keep saying his name, the fact that
Speaker 1: Angelinos and others who protest ice, you know, once they
Speaker 1: started finding out about this case, continue to ask for answers,
Speaker 1: continue to say his name. Are not letting this just
Speaker 1: go under the carpet. And so the DA's saying he
Speaker 1: hasn't ruled out a grand jury. He's calling on more
Speaker 1: witnesses to come forward if they, you know, if they
Speaker 1: haven't come forward yet. And he met with a family.
Speaker 1: So this is a good at least a good sign.
Speaker 1: Their attorney says, there were no eyewitnesses. Now, I was there,
Speaker 1: not at the shooting, obviously, right, I'm not what's his name,
Speaker 1: Scott Jennings, who claims he was talking to Mitch McConnell.
Speaker 2: I wasn't there at the shooting.
Speaker 1: I was there at the vigil that they did for
Speaker 1: Keith Porter shortly after he was murdered. And one of
Speaker 1: the remarkable things about it is that it was packed
Speaker 1: with people. There were a lot of black people, there
Speaker 1: were a lot of Latinos, there were some white folks.
Speaker 1: This guy, Keith Porter, was very popular in his building
Speaker 1: and at his job. A lot of the Latino folks
Speaker 1: that were there who got there early, who were there
Speaker 1: with flowers, who were crying mourning. This guy worked with
Speaker 1: him at the home depot. And then the white folks
Speaker 1: that were there, were people from the building that knew him,
Speaker 1: and a couple that didn't know him that were just
Speaker 1: very distressed at what had happened. And then of course,
Speaker 1: his family is extended family Black Lives Matter, LA. His
Speaker 1: cousin is a member of that organization, and.
Speaker 2: A lot of the people in the building were.
Speaker 1: Really skeptical about what happened because they were saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, they they didn't hear anything, and it didn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. And people, you know, talking about his
Speaker 1: character and what a wonderful person he was, what a
Speaker 1: you know, the kind of guy that just helped anyone
Speaker 1: that needed help. And that was the thing that struck
Speaker 1: me from his people, his coworkers at the job, his family,
Speaker 1: and the people from the building that did know him. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that I don't know, the LAPDS
Speaker 1: completed their investigation, which means that the DA could bring
Speaker 1: charges if he wanted to. And I don't know what eyewitness,
Speaker 1: what witnesses, you know, he's he's talked to him who
Speaker 1: he hasn't if he's talked to all of those folks
Speaker 1: that were there at that vigil or not, But they
Speaker 1: need to charge this guy. It's you know what it's
Speaker 1: reminding me of. It's reminding me of George Simmerman, because
Speaker 1: if you look back to the Trayvon Martin case, there
Speaker 1: Zimmerman was running around for a long time with no
Speaker 1: charges being filed. He was not arrested until we the
Speaker 1: people started talking about it, right, I mean, if you
Speaker 1: think back at the now, you know, it seems like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, of course there was a trial and everyone
Speaker 1: was talking about it. Even the President weighed in. But
Speaker 1: it was the activists on the ground. There are the
Speaker 1: dream Keepers there and in Florida, the family and others
Speaker 1: who wouldn't let it go, who kept protesting, who kept
Speaker 1: calling for the arrest of this guy, And even though
Speaker 1: he got off, there never would have been a trial,
Speaker 1: There never would have been a conversation. Even you know,
Speaker 1: the founding of Black Lives Matter was largely was largely
Speaker 1: inspired by the activism in the wake of his murder.
Speaker 1: So it's reminding me of that because if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for the community and Black Lives Matter LA and the
Speaker 1: family and the attorney just not giving up and refusing
Speaker 1: to stop saying Keith Porter, Keith Porter, Keith Porter, then
Speaker 1: this would have been already swept under the carpet. There
Speaker 1: would be no conversation about it. We would not be
Speaker 1: having a press conference with the DA yesterday saying he's
Speaker 1: thinking about convening a grand jury. And so I say
Speaker 1: all of that to say that we have to keep
Speaker 1: it up. We have to keep you know, look commenting
Speaker 1: under every post about ice murders, Keith Porter, say his name,
Speaker 1: commenting you know, to the DA, who has a very
Speaker 1: robust social media presence, or writing emails to them, or
Speaker 1: writing to you know, your council members that heck the
Speaker 1: police chief that they conducted an investigation. Why aren't they
Speaker 1: pressing for charges?
Speaker 2: Like all of these folks are.
Speaker 1: Worth reaching out to, because we still need justice for
Speaker 1: Keith Borter, News.
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Speaker 1: I'm Dominique, the Primia for KVLA Talk fifteen eighty. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I do appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you waking up with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The uh, the trial they call it the trial of
Speaker 1: Tupac shakor the murder trial, it's really the trial of
Speaker 1: Duayne Davis. I mean, because Tupac is no longer with us,
Speaker 1: rest in peace. This happened thirty years ago. They did
Speaker 1: opening statements on yesterday, prosecutors say it was all about,
Speaker 1: you know, a gang rivalry, and.
Speaker 2: I guess you know.
Speaker 1: Again you wonder, okay, if you know all this, why
Speaker 1: why is it coming now? Why is it all? Why
Speaker 1: is this coming out now? They're saying that mister Davis
Speaker 1: ordered the murder of Tupac. They're also saying that Pak
Speaker 1: was conscious after he was shot when he was on
Speaker 1: his way to the hospital, but that he wasn't cooperating.
Speaker 1: That's what they're claiming.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 2: According to.
Speaker 1: Their first witness, Gary Dale, who is from your home town, Miles,
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Metro police officer who wrote in the ambulance
Speaker 1: with him. At least that's what he says.
Speaker 2: And that.
Speaker 1: He says that when he asked Tupac who shot him,
Speaker 1: and Pac said no, we'll take care of it.
Speaker 2: And that he would refuse to speak any further.
Speaker 1: You know, I I know that there are a lot
Speaker 1: of documentaries and books and speculations about Po's murder, and
Speaker 1: I've had my own private conversations with people that knew
Speaker 1: him really well, people from Vegas, people from here. But
Speaker 1: I can't say that I've read every do you read
Speaker 1: every every book? And watch every documentary about Tupac's murder.
Speaker 3: Have never will why it's water day. I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't want to.
Speaker 4: I don't want to sound insensitive because you know you're
Speaker 4: doing more than I'm doing. But it feels insensitive and genuine,
Speaker 4: and I don't need to get into the weeds and
Speaker 4: everything to, you know, to to feel how I feel
Speaker 4: about the situation.
Speaker 3: Didn't change anything about me at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to figure out why I don't,
Speaker 1: because you know, I knew him and I.
Speaker 2: Was really really sad.
Speaker 1: I think it's because I don't trust it too. It
Speaker 1: just seems like a bunch of blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: Like if you really were going to tell the truth
Speaker 1: about what happened to Tupac, why did it take thirty
Speaker 1: years and even the ones that you know, there's been
Speaker 1: documentaries and there's been articles and books in between those
Speaker 1: thirty years, But I just it's it's kind of I
Speaker 1: just don't feel like we're getting the truth, the whole,
Speaker 1: even of what they actually know. And maybe that makes
Speaker 1: me a conspiracy theorist, but my gut says, nah, it's
Speaker 1: fishy as hell.
Speaker 3: I'm right there with you. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm said, I'm not following this trial. I haven't been
Speaker 4: following the trial step by step like that. So and
Speaker 4: I don't plan on, uh if, I don't plan on
Speaker 4: watching this whole episode to the very end, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I guess.
Speaker 4: We'll see the results of it for sure, but I'm
Speaker 4: not attached to it at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, to his brother's point, none of
Speaker 1: it is going to bring Pop back, right, So.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like I.
Speaker 1: Need to let you guys know this is happening and
Speaker 1: follow it to the extent of, you know, anything that
Speaker 1: seems to come out that feels relevant. But basically they're
Speaker 1: saying the you know, two rival gangs in LA and
Speaker 1: that's what led to it, you know, kind of the
Speaker 1: stuff we already have heard. I mean, I guess from
Speaker 1: Duayne Keefe d himself, from various people speculating. I remember
Speaker 1: after my auntie Kimako Jones, who was also aka Sandra
Speaker 1: Elaine Jones, who was an you know, a Broadway actress
Speaker 1: and a dancer, my dad's sister, when she was murdered,
Speaker 1: you know, and then again when my sister, my younger sister,
Speaker 1: Shawnee was murdered. My dad would challenge, you know, law enforcement,
Speaker 1: why is it taking you so long? Isn't this what
Speaker 1: you do? And so again thirty years later. It just
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound credible. But perhaps I'll follow a little
Speaker 1: closer this time, since they're since they've taken it to
Speaker 1: actual court. Yeah. I also think about this in terms of,
Speaker 1: you know, people's lyrics now being used against them, and
Speaker 1: that's really popular in Georgia, but it's it's something we'll
Speaker 1: probably be seeing more and more of. And then in
Speaker 1: this case, this guy's book and all of his podcasts
Speaker 1: and radio interviews and TV being used against him and
Speaker 1: now he's denying that. I yeah, I don't think that works.
Speaker 1: And I don't know does this change the record? Does
Speaker 1: this change the official record?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: What will it take for us to really know what
Speaker 1: happened to Tupac or Biggie.
Speaker 2: For that matter.
Speaker 1: You know, why are these two crimes still largely unsolved?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It doesn't sit right with me, but FYI, the trial
Speaker 1: is well underway and Selena says, I don't like stories
Speaker 1: with violent endings. Well, yeah, and we don't. And any
Speaker 1: c Courton calls it fabricated narratives and the exploitation of
Speaker 1: another black man. And of course, you know, it would
Speaker 1: be great if we could bring him back or bring
Speaker 1: some measure of relief onto his family. But from what
Speaker 1: I'm hearing from them, they don't find that to be
Speaker 1: of comfort.
Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me either, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, thirty years later, when my sister was murdered, the
Speaker 1: killer was on the loose four I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: going to say over a week, maybe a week and
Speaker 1: a half. And it was excruciating that week and a half,
Speaker 1: like where is this guy? Are they going to find him?
Speaker 1: We knew who it was, and I just can't even
Speaker 1: imagine for Pox's family thirty years of like getting mixed
Speaker 1: stories and rumors and and and biopics and books and
Speaker 1: everybody's got a theory, but nobody's coming to you with anything.
Speaker 2: Verifiable.
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine that week and a week and
Speaker 1: a half of waiting for, you know, some answers around
Speaker 1: my sister Shawnie was like felt like ten years. So
Speaker 1: you know, if anything, I'm sending out prayers and love
Speaker 1: light to the family of Tupac Shicre for sure right now,
Speaker 1: because they gotta relive their trauma every time we do this. Myles,
Speaker 1: what do you make of Genie Buss holding up the
Speaker 1: sale of the Lakers? I, you know, I I find
Speaker 1: it kind of cool. I don't know that, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 2: They're saying.
Speaker 1: Ray Richardson just said, it's that she wants to be
Speaker 1: their official spokesperson at the Board of Governors. I wonder
Speaker 1: if it has anything to do with who's buying it,
Speaker 1: who's buying them and and you know what the politics
Speaker 1: behind this are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean just on the face of it, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's that's a daddy's legacy.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 4: I get it one hundred percent. I get you still
Speaker 4: want to be a part of it. I mean, look, Lakers,
Speaker 4: I don't see that even with Lebron leaving, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't see that being a dying brand
Speaker 4: going forward for the next decade, maybe twenty years. The
Speaker 4: NBA is still growing and expanding internationally. So I I
Speaker 4: get her for trying to still be a part of
Speaker 4: it in some way, shape or form, whether that be
Speaker 4: for the personal love of it or just from the financial.
Speaker 3: Point of it.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess that what they're saying is with.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers owner.
Speaker 1: When he bought it, Mark Walter, she would have still
Speaker 1: been the representative. But now that Kushner and Bob Iger
Speaker 1: are buying it and they would take the family stake,
Speaker 1: then she would have been out the deal they had
Speaker 1: she would still represent for five years, but now with
Speaker 1: Kushner buying it, she would no longer have that agency
Speaker 1: to do that. She wouldn't be eligible. And there's five
Speaker 1: siblings and they all five have to agree. That's funny
Speaker 1: because my mom, you know, we don't have the Lakers.
Speaker 1: We have some poetry books. We own books of poetry.
Speaker 1: But the five of us all have to agree. Well,
Speaker 1: actually no, we all five. We don't have to have
Speaker 1: we have to have three out of five. They have
Speaker 1: to have a unanimous five to do anything. We would
Speaker 1: never get anything done if all five of us had
Speaker 1: to agree, only three out of five. But can she
Speaker 1: shut this down? I wonder if if she shuts down
Speaker 1: that's seventeen percent that's still owned by this five siblings.
Speaker 1: Would that prevent the deal from going forward? Or would
Speaker 1: they just go forward with Kushner and Iiger. It's the
Speaker 1: deal still has to be approved by the Board of
Speaker 1: Governors for.
Speaker 2: The NBA.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's gonna What looks like to me
Speaker 4: is that it's just the family still owns a percentage
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 2: Seventeen Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she'll still be She'll still there'll still be over
Speaker 4: that seventeen percent or fifteen.
Speaker 2: Per No, but that's what they're trying to buy.
Speaker 1: The seventeen percent Before, like Mark Walter, I guess they
Speaker 1: were gonna keep that, but now the Kushner group wants
Speaker 1: the whole what the whole thing? Yeah, they want the
Speaker 1: whole thing, and the other four siblings have agreed to sell.
Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is I think that what happen
Speaker 4: is I think that I think the deal still even
Speaker 4: if Jenie Buss holds Titans and I'm gonna hold on
Speaker 4: to this fifteen percent and stop the deal from being
Speaker 4: the whole thing, I still think that she still may
Speaker 4: be a part of the team. And if they do
Speaker 4: end up selling it, but even if they don't end
Speaker 4: up telling it, I still see the team still being sold.
Speaker 3: With her so old in seventy percent. That makes sense,
Speaker 3: don't makes sense?
Speaker 1: You're saying that even if they do sell that she
Speaker 1: still could be the she could still be the face
Speaker 1: of it. That might be the compromise.
Speaker 4: I think they still take the eighty three percent regardless
Speaker 4: if Genie wants to hold on to.
Speaker 1: It, right Yeah, yeah, And she's been having she's been
Speaker 1: fighting with her siblings anyway, they went to court about
Speaker 1: you know, their trust and who controls what, and they
Speaker 1: may create a new deal in.
Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen, so we'll see.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 1: Seems like from what I'm reading, she has the power
Speaker 1: to stop that, which would mean the Kushner family would
Speaker 1: still have to have her as the face of the
Speaker 1: Lakers at the board of governors and for five years,
Speaker 1: and that you know, I don't know, you know, she
Speaker 1: would still have a pretty big footprint. A seventeen percent
Speaker 1: share of the team is a powerful shareholder.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know you're saying, you know, with even without Lebron.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Lakers, you know, were huge before Lebron,
Speaker 1: they'll be huge after Lebron. I just wonder about the
Speaker 1: whole Kushner thing and Eiger thing for the brand, because
Speaker 1: I'm already hearing people on social media switching to the
Speaker 1: Clippers because they don't want to root for a team
Speaker 1: that's owned by the family of Trump's in laws.
Speaker 3: Basketball fans said, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I get it, but that was okay, that just shocked
Speaker 4: right there to see the switch over because of the
Speaker 4: team ownership.
Speaker 1: But I got, oh yeah, I've maybe it's the people
Speaker 1: on my timeline, but they're basketball fans.
Speaker 4: Got some some dirt over there going on too in
Speaker 4: a Clippers organization, So well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so what are you saying? Warriors?
Speaker 3: They got some dirt there too. Then got some dirt too, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, pro sports, I've.
Speaker 4: Got seventeen, got seventeen banners up there, got you know,
Speaker 4: all these retired jerseys and statues in the front, not
Speaker 4: not the other two.
Speaker 1: But that's all there is that I'll always be a
Speaker 1: fan of Kobe no matter what happens with all these
Speaker 1: super wealthy team owners and their dirty laundry. Eight hundred
Speaker 1: nine two oh, fifteen eighty. If you want to weigh
Speaker 1: in on any of the above, I'm Dominique Daprima for
Speaker 1: KBLA Talk, fifteen eighty. Another huge case is moving forward
Speaker 1: in California today, less splashy than the kify d murder trial,
Speaker 1: but it is meta. The owners of Facebook and Instagram
Speaker 1: being sued by a bunch of state's attorney state attorneys general,
Speaker 1: led by California's own Rob Bonta. They lost to New
Speaker 1: Mexico a couple of weeks ago, almost a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: That loss Meta and the claim there the New Mexico
Speaker 1: Attorney General, Raoul Torres, who's also part of this lawsuit,
Speaker 1: was that they the algorithms intentionally addicted children and teens,
Speaker 1: that the app fostered child exploitation. Opening arguments are this morning,
Speaker 1: and they are trying to force the social media company
Speaker 1: to change Facebook and Instagram, change the designs. We could
Speaker 1: see a massive judgment. I mean, we were talking about
Speaker 1: almost a billion in New Mexico, which is tiny compared
Speaker 1: to California, right, and California is you know, leading twenty
Speaker 1: other twenty nine excuse me, other attorneys general.
Speaker 2: So that's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's more than half of our states. Obviously, this case
Speaker 1: was brought in twenty twenty three, but it's going to
Speaker 1: be argued here now, starting today. And there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stake for Meta because first of all, they could
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're talking could be billions and
Speaker 1: billions and billions. Experts are calling Meta the new big tobacco. Right,
Speaker 1: Remember all the money they had to pay to mitigate
Speaker 1: all the harms that they did in addicting children and
Speaker 1: the health impacts on young people. They're calling it the
Speaker 1: new big tobacco. And if you look at the billions
Speaker 1: and billions a big tobacco pay, this is what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. But it's not only the money. Of course,
Speaker 1: the money is consequential, but it's also what changes can
Speaker 1: the state force to the design and the algorithm of
Speaker 1: these social media platforms. California is huge.
Speaker 3: It's like a.
Speaker 1: Country, right, and if they lose here, it's going to
Speaker 1: be a big deal and it could be a lot
Speaker 1: of money. And you know, Mark Zuckerberg has invested a
Speaker 1: whole pile of money in artificial intelligence. They're saying up
Speaker 1: to one hundred and forty five billion invested in artificial intelligence.
Speaker 1: Who pays for that? Facebook and Instagram? So if a
Speaker 1: judge said, as you know what, you've got to change
Speaker 1: this algorithm, you have to change the design of this
Speaker 1: whole app, it's going to cost him money. And that's
Speaker 1: going to be a problem because they're out over way
Speaker 1: out over their skis. As the business people like to say,
Speaker 1: on artificial intelligence. A New Mexico judge said they had
Speaker 1: to pay five hundred and sixty seven million into an
Speaker 1: abatement fund because of child exploitation allegations, another three hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy five million for violating the state's Unfair Practices Act.
Speaker 1: Of course, they're going to appeal it, and good luck
Speaker 1: with that. Maybe they'll get a Trump judge, or maybe
Speaker 1: they'll get all the way to the extreme court, you know,
Speaker 1: and pay folks off. But it's not looking good right now,
Speaker 1: right and with twenty nine states on the line, it's
Speaker 1: not just the fact that California is ginormous, it's also
Speaker 1: the fact that California is leading all of these other
Speaker 1: places that have the same complaints, including.
Speaker 2: What they say are.
Speaker 1: Deceptive practices around safety and age controls, which we all
Speaker 1: know are just a big joke. That's one of the
Speaker 1: things they've been ordered to do is in New Mexico
Speaker 1: is make it actually have actual age controls that actually work.
Speaker 1: And the other thing they're on the hook for is
Speaker 1: lying to parents about just how dangerous these apps can
Speaker 1: be for young minds. So a lot is on the
Speaker 1: line in California today. For your favorite apps, your Facebook,
Speaker 1: your Instagram, and if you look at the way, let's say,
Speaker 1: if you've ever tried to read an article that has
Speaker 1: a paywall, if you've ever tried to get into one
Speaker 1: of your own accounts without your password and two factor verification,
Speaker 1: you know that the Internet knows how to keep people
Speaker 1: out of places they want to keep people out of.
Speaker 1: And that is not what has been happening. It's why
Speaker 1: I laugh when you know when you see people getting
Speaker 1: censored on Twitter, where you can post pornography and Nazi propaganda,
Speaker 1: but apparently certain left wing buzzwords are problematic. They know
Speaker 1: how to stop what they want to stop. So when
Speaker 1: we see something not being stopped, we have to assume
Speaker 1: that is intentional. Good luck to the twenty nine state
Speaker 1: attorneys general in this case. Next hour, Mile I'll be
Speaker 1: joined by my colleague doctor Nie Cordelais Coortell take a
Speaker 1: look at the political landscape across the nation. I'm Dominique
Speaker 1: Diaprima for KBLA Talk
Speaker 2: Fifteen eighty KBLA fifteen eighty Santa Monica