1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: K BLA Talk fifteen eighty. Good morning, Good morning, and 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,320 God bless I'm Dominiqua Prima. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: The show us called. 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: First Things First, and my first thing every day is prayer, giving, thanksgiving, 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,519 praises and asking for blessings from God, asking for the 6 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:16,399 blessings of the ancestors and the elders. 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,839 Speaker 2: And let's go. 8 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: Man. It's a busy season. And I'm glad we're here together. 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:27,519 I'm glad we can do this. And this today is 10 00:00:27,559 --> 00:00:29,199 a talking point Tuesday. 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: This is when we. 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:37,079 Speaker 1: Try to debunk, deflate, or flip around the talking points 13 00:00:37,079 --> 00:00:39,640 that don't serve us, don't serve our community, and sometimes 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,159 we don't even know where they came from. I will 15 00:00:43,759 --> 00:00:46,320 ask you to help out in that project. You're always 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,880 invited in at eight hundred nine to fifteen eighty eight 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,039 hundred nine, two oh fifteen eighty. 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: It also happens to be a. 19 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Primary day in Florida and Alaska, like every week is 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,159 a primary day. But of course we are in that 21 00:01:01,399 --> 00:01:05,599 season all the way up and through November. So the 22 00:01:05,599 --> 00:01:07,799 way we do things on a Tuesday hour one, we 23 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:11,079 look left, left coast, what's going on around here as 24 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,439 it connects to the world. Hour two we go national, 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,640 international and beyond, and in the third hour we do 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,840 a deep dive on a hot topic person or persons 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,239 of interest. We are on point with that today. Right now, 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,920 it's me you the microphone, telephone, your Twitter fingers, your 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,879 Instagram thumbs, whatever you got going on, and you can 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,000 call me on the old fashioned landline. 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: At eight hundred and nine. 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: To fifteen eighty hour two, I'll be joined by my 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,200 colleague doctor Ni Cordlai Corte, who can give us a 34 00:01:44,239 --> 00:01:47,120 clearer picture of all these various primaries, not just the 35 00:01:47,159 --> 00:01:50,200 two today, but the last couple and where they leave 36 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:53,719 us ahead of November, and of course you're invited in 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,280 to that conversation as well. In our three we will 38 00:01:58,319 --> 00:02:03,400 look at what is the real story behind the La 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:12,360 Jazz Festivals collapse, demise, postponement, what is it really what 40 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,039 actually happened. As you probably know, I am on the 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,879 board of the La Jazz Festival Foundation, which is the 42 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:27,520 charitable arm of that enterprise, and I will be joined 43 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:33,919 by Martin Ludlow, the visionary behind that, and he's going 44 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,159 to do a deep dive on what really happened, what's 45 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,639 really happening as it's still in motion and I'll be 46 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,240 taking your questions and your phone calls as per usual. 47 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,360 So we got a lot to get to today, and 48 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:52,039 I'm glad that we can do it together. My my mind. 49 00:02:52,039 --> 00:02:54,240 Did you see the story yesterday? 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,039 Speaker 2: There was a poll that. 51 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: Came out I think I'm going to say end of 52 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:09,919 last week that showed Mayor Karen Bass ahead in the 53 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,199 race to be for her reelection by like twelve points. 54 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,960 It was a double digit lead. It was a big story. 55 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,879 And now the company behind that pole is saying that 56 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,560 it wasn't true, that it was a fake poll, and 57 00:03:30,759 --> 00:03:37,360 I'd smell a rat. You know, there's so much to 58 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,759 unbox here if you really look at it. This company 59 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:47,159 claims that the poll they did the poll knowing it 60 00:03:47,199 --> 00:03:52,080 was fake because they were trying to show that how 61 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:57,879 quickly information can get into the public sphere and how 62 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:06,159 quickly it can be spread around the internet. And why, 63 00:04:07,199 --> 00:04:10,960 I mean, first of all, why now they're called Median Strategies. 64 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,680 Now they say they're getting out of the polling business 65 00:04:14,039 --> 00:04:17,600 and that all of their polls past or present are 66 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:24,399 just to be ignored. They said that their polling project 67 00:04:24,439 --> 00:04:32,600 will not publish additional polls. Hmmm, I smell a rat. 68 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:37,879 Why would you your little social experiment, Why would you 69 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,600 target the LA mayor's race just in particular? 70 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,319 Speaker 2: Why would you decide, out. 71 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: Of all the primaries in all the country and all 72 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:49,800 the world, you just thought you'd do a fake poll 73 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,040 about a black woman running for reelection and then pull 74 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,560 it so that she could look bad. Really, that's what 75 00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:00,959 you decided. Even so, she had nothing to do with 76 00:05:00,959 --> 00:05:04,399 that poll. It wasn't her poll. She didn't pay for it, 77 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:10,160 she didn't commission it. But of course she's gonna talk 78 00:05:10,199 --> 00:05:13,959 about it. Anyone would talk about polling that shows that 79 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:22,160 they're doing well. That's the nature of politics, radio, corporate culture, anything, right, 80 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,399 That's just what people do. The Roman campaign is jumping 81 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:32,720 on it, saying they published the poll without setting it. Okay, 82 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,160 So what you're telling me is that your campaign independently 83 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,839 verifies and audits every single poll, no matter any poll, 84 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:45,800 before you tout it. I seriously doubt that I've worked 85 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:50,480 on enough campaigns. I'm not a campaign strategist, but I've 86 00:05:50,519 --> 00:05:54,879 worked on, been around, been behind the scenes of enough 87 00:05:54,879 --> 00:05:59,040 campaigns to know that they don't say, oh, let's independently 88 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:10,079 they're a by this poll, not favorable polls. They now 89 00:06:10,199 --> 00:06:13,639 say it wasn't even a poll. Can we get an investigation? 90 00:06:14,079 --> 00:06:16,120 Let me tell you if I had the means, I 91 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,360 would be investigating who's behind this median strategies? 92 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: Who who's who. 93 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,399 Speaker 1: The owners of this company, who are they friends of? 94 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,920 And who do they back in the in the race 95 00:06:26,959 --> 00:06:31,959 for La mayor. It's just a little too convenient. Of course, 96 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,560 the Maya deleted her posts where she had put it 97 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:41,759 up there, and her campaign spokesperson said any bad faith 98 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,839 attempts to influence elections should be investigated and prosecuted to 99 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:54,240 the fullest extent of the law. I do agree, I yeah, 100 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:54,920 I just. 101 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:55,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. 102 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: Why would it seems really fishy to me anyway this 103 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,439 to if this is what we're doing, If this is 104 00:07:06,439 --> 00:07:12,199 what we are doing in this campaign cycle, fasten your 105 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:15,000 seat belts. It's gonna be a bumpy ride. I don't 106 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,240 see how it cannot be if that's the direction that 107 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:22,600 we are going here in La And it appears that 108 00:07:22,639 --> 00:07:24,839 we are just based on some of the posts and 109 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:28,920 back and forth that I have seen so far, and 110 00:07:28,959 --> 00:07:32,279 we haven't even it's not even after Labor Day yet, 111 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:38,439 when This stuff really starts in earnest. It's not just politics, 112 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:44,920 it's arts, culture, it's relationships, it's how doggone hot. It's 113 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,839 gonna be today, tomorrow and the next day. All of 114 00:07:47,839 --> 00:07:50,399 that is on the table. That's what we do around here. 115 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,399 First things first, whatever your first thing is, I'd love 116 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:55,519 to hear from you always at eight hundred and nine 117 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,920 two fifteen eighty, Part two or maybe part five of 118 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:06,160 an possibly infinite heat wave is upon us today. 119 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,839 Speaker 2: So hydrate, you know. 120 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Where, find a cooling station, where itty bitty clothes, whatever 121 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,439 you got to do to feel comfortable. 122 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,439 Speaker 2: It's about to be. 123 00:08:17,399 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: Hot today, tomorrow and the next day. And yeah, don't 124 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:28,399 play with matches. I mean, it's weird hot. It's humid hot. 125 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:31,199 I don't know if that's al Nino, you know, I 126 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:35,159 don't know what that is, but it is hot. Reminds 127 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,120 me of New Jersey when I would go home to 128 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,600 visit my dad. So you know, you'd all be sleeping 129 00:08:40,639 --> 00:08:43,360 in the basement because it was so humid and hot 130 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:46,720 and muggy. This is not La hot. 131 00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:47,399 Speaker 2: This is some. 132 00:08:49,159 --> 00:08:53,759 Speaker 1: Climate emergency kind of weather. In any case, you know 133 00:08:53,879 --> 00:08:56,320 the cooling stations you can call three one one you 134 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,000 can get a list and go to libraries. They welcome 135 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,519 you in on hot days like this might maybe you'll 136 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,399 read a book, get a little smarter. But even if 137 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,159 you don't, there's air conditioning and Wi Fi. 138 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,919 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we're in the. 139 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: Middle of another midweek blaze, so get ready, and we 140 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:19,799 do have a lot to talk about. The District Attorney 141 00:09:19,879 --> 00:09:25,159 had a press conference yesterday. I'm regarding Keith Porter. We'll 142 00:09:25,159 --> 00:09:28,000 look at that and more when we come forward on 143 00:09:28,159 --> 00:09:31,360 KBLA Talk fifteen eighty. Right now, we're back to me 144 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,519 and we're back to you at eight hundred and nine 145 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:38,240 to two oh, fifteen eighty. So after months, literally months, 146 00:09:38,279 --> 00:09:45,039 because this happened on New Year's Eve, when a person 147 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,960 who lived in the same building as Keith Porter murdered him. 148 00:09:50,759 --> 00:09:57,919 That person happened to be an off duty ice agent. Yesterday, 149 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,559 the District Attorney's off met with the family and met 150 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:06,240 with Keith Porter's mom. Keith Porter is a black American. 151 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: Born and raised. 152 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:15,039 Speaker 1: No kind of immigration anything, not that that should make 153 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,960 you more or less eligible to be murdered by law enforcement. 154 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,519 But just for the record, he was allegedly shooting into 155 00:10:23,519 --> 00:10:30,039 the air in his apartment complex, and this guy Pelasio's, 156 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,799 who also lived in the complex, allegedly told him to stop. 157 00:10:37,039 --> 00:10:39,240 He then called it in saying the guy was an 158 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:42,360 active shooter. But he goes back into his apartment, puts 159 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:47,919 on his ice gear, comes back out and shoots Keith 160 00:10:48,159 --> 00:10:54,000 Porter dead. Porter was allegedly at the time reportedly done. 161 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:56,600 He had been shooting off in a parking lot where 162 00:10:56,639 --> 00:11:00,759 people weren't around. He was walking back towards his apartment 163 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:07,039 and he was killed. Now, the community is the one 164 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:15,200 that outed this Plasios guy, Brian Plasios. They because he 165 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:21,600 had his own problems with his own baby's mother, and 166 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:27,639 he had been accused of I don't know, child abuse, 167 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:32,559 I think yeah, child abuse. That they actually were the 168 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,440 ones that outed him. And then people including various news 169 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:41,759 agencies and community activists organizations like Black Lives Matter, Grassroots, 170 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:47,639 bl MLA, you know, put the word out and then 171 00:11:47,639 --> 00:11:50,639 the press reported, after they did their own whatever they did, 172 00:11:51,639 --> 00:11:54,320 that it was this guy, Brian Plasio's and the community 173 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,840 and the family have been calling for this guy Pelasios 174 00:11:57,879 --> 00:12:03,320 to be arrested, charged, fired, anything, and we've heard nothing. Well, yesterday, 175 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,919 the DA's office did meet with the family Hawkman's office said, 176 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,480 you know, they don't usually meet with victims' families this 177 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:14,279 early in an investigation. He didn't call them victims, those 178 00:12:14,279 --> 00:12:19,120 are my words, but that given how high profile this 179 00:12:19,279 --> 00:12:25,720 case is, and given the request, the repeated request of. 180 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:26,919 Speaker 2: The attorney. 181 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: In the case, Jamal Tewson, that they decided to go 182 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:36,879 ahead and meet with the family. What's interesting is they 183 00:12:36,879 --> 00:12:40,600 have not committed to bringing charges. The family is asking 184 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:45,279 for a grand jury here, and Hawkman said they haven't 185 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,799 made that determination yet. They're still trying to claim that 186 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:56,399 Keith Porter shot at this guy. But I'm quite convinced 187 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,120 that if there was evidence that that had happened, and 188 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,840 the LAPD would have trumpeted it all over the world. 189 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:10,639 You know how they love to talk about the victims 190 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,360 of law enforcement violence and smear their own their characters. 191 00:13:15,799 --> 00:13:19,279 So I seriously doubt that is the case. Especially you know, 192 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:22,360 firing into the air to celebrate on New Year's is 193 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:24,840 not an active shooter. You might not like it, it 194 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:27,799 might be illegal, but it happens all the time, and 195 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:35,120 those people are not considered active shooters. So they're saying that, 196 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:39,840 and that was you know, Homeland Security, which every single 197 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:44,519 case of them killing people citizens and not. They always 198 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:46,799 say the officer feared for their life and the person 199 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,360 was trying to kill the officer, either the ice person, 200 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:55,080 either with a vehicle or a gun or you know, 201 00:13:55,919 --> 00:13:58,480 I don't know, magic spell, I don't know. They're always 202 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:07,440 justified it, so that is not convincing. It's interesting that 203 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,480 the La Times says a law enforcement official had told 204 00:14:10,519 --> 00:14:14,000 them that detectives found evidence of two bullets behind where 205 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,720 Pelasio's was standing, but we have never heard that claim again, 206 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:22,799 and they don't say in this latest article. They don't 207 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,960 say what law enforcement agency told them that. Was it 208 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,480 the LAPD, was it Homeland Security? Was it the Sheriff's department? 209 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:33,720 Who wasn't And why have we never heard about that again? 210 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,399 The attorney says, you know that presenting the case of 211 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,440 the grand jury would mean would be the best case forward, 212 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:52,600 And the district attorney hasn't said no. He hasn't said yes, 213 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:55,080 but he hasn't said no. And I think that this 214 00:14:55,159 --> 00:14:58,960 is an indication, in my opinion, that the protesting, the 215 00:14:59,039 --> 00:15:01,919 fact that we keep saying his name, the fact that 216 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,279 Angelinos and others who protest ice, you know, once they 217 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,799 started finding out about this case, continue to ask for answers, 218 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,360 continue to say his name. Are not letting this just 219 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,679 go under the carpet. And so the DA's saying he 220 00:15:18,759 --> 00:15:22,440 hasn't ruled out a grand jury. He's calling on more 221 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,240 witnesses to come forward if they, you know, if they 222 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,639 haven't come forward yet. And he met with a family. 223 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:30,799 So this is a good at least a good sign. 224 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,919 Their attorney says, there were no eyewitnesses. Now, I was there, 225 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:43,799 not at the shooting, obviously, right, I'm not what's his name, 226 00:15:43,879 --> 00:15:47,799 Scott Jennings, who claims he was talking to Mitch McConnell. 227 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:48,919 Speaker 2: I wasn't there at the shooting. 228 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: I was there at the vigil that they did for 229 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:58,200 Keith Porter shortly after he was murdered. And one of 230 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,200 the remarkable things about it is that it was packed 231 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,120 with people. There were a lot of black people, there 232 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,720 were a lot of Latinos, there were some white folks. 233 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,759 This guy, Keith Porter, was very popular in his building 234 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,960 and at his job. A lot of the Latino folks 235 00:16:16,039 --> 00:16:18,720 that were there who got there early, who were there 236 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,600 with flowers, who were crying mourning. This guy worked with 237 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:29,000 him at the home depot. And then the white folks 238 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,120 that were there, were people from the building that knew him, 239 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:36,600 and a couple that didn't know him that were just 240 00:16:36,879 --> 00:16:41,799 very distressed at what had happened. And then of course, 241 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,720 his family is extended family Black Lives Matter, LA. His 242 00:16:46,879 --> 00:16:56,320 cousin is a member of that organization, and. 243 00:16:53,759 --> 00:16:56,919 Speaker 2: A lot of the people in the building were. 244 00:16:58,399 --> 00:17:01,679 Speaker 1: Really skeptical about what happened because they were saying that, 245 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,039 you know, they they didn't hear anything, and it didn't 246 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:12,720 make any sense. And people, you know, talking about his 247 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,799 character and what a wonderful person he was, what a 248 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:19,759 you know, the kind of guy that just helped anyone 249 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:23,720 that needed help. And that was the thing that struck 250 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:27,160 me from his people, his coworkers at the job, his family, 251 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,799 and the people from the building that did know him. So, 252 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,000 you know, I think that I don't know, the LAPDS 253 00:17:39,079 --> 00:17:42,799 completed their investigation, which means that the DA could bring 254 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,720 charges if he wanted to. And I don't know what eyewitness, 255 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,400 what witnesses, you know, he's he's talked to him who 256 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,160 he hasn't if he's talked to all of those folks 257 00:17:53,200 --> 00:18:02,240 that were there at that vigil or not, But they 258 00:18:02,279 --> 00:18:04,319 need to charge this guy. It's you know what it's 259 00:18:04,319 --> 00:18:07,440 reminding me of. It's reminding me of George Simmerman, because 260 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,359 if you look back to the Trayvon Martin case, there 261 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,279 Zimmerman was running around for a long time with no 262 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,359 charges being filed. He was not arrested until we the 263 00:18:20,519 --> 00:18:24,200 people started talking about it, right, I mean, if you 264 00:18:24,319 --> 00:18:27,160 think back at the now, you know, it seems like, 265 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,440 oh yeah, of course there was a trial and everyone 266 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:33,039 was talking about it. Even the President weighed in. But 267 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,599 it was the activists on the ground. There are the 268 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,920 dream Keepers there and in Florida, the family and others 269 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:47,960 who wouldn't let it go, who kept protesting, who kept 270 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,799 calling for the arrest of this guy, And even though 271 00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:54,880 he got off, there never would have been a trial, 272 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,799 There never would have been a conversation. Even you know, 273 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,160 the founding of Black Lives Matter was largely was largely 274 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,799 inspired by the activism in the wake of his murder. 275 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:11,160 So it's reminding me of that because if it wasn't 276 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:16,240 for the community and Black Lives Matter LA and the 277 00:19:16,319 --> 00:19:22,240 family and the attorney just not giving up and refusing 278 00:19:22,279 --> 00:19:25,440 to stop saying Keith Porter, Keith Porter, Keith Porter, then 279 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:29,839 this would have been already swept under the carpet. There 280 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,160 would be no conversation about it. We would not be 281 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,400 having a press conference with the DA yesterday saying he's 282 00:19:35,599 --> 00:19:40,039 thinking about convening a grand jury. And so I say 283 00:19:40,039 --> 00:19:42,799 all of that to say that we have to keep 284 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:47,160 it up. We have to keep you know, look commenting 285 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:52,240 under every post about ice murders, Keith Porter, say his name, 286 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:58,000 commenting you know, to the DA, who has a very 287 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,400 robust social media presence, or writing emails to them, or 288 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:11,920 writing to you know, your council members that heck the 289 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,279 police chief that they conducted an investigation. Why aren't they 290 00:20:16,319 --> 00:20:17,440 pressing for charges? 291 00:20:17,519 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: Like all of these folks are. 292 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: Worth reaching out to, because we still need justice for 293 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,480 Keith Borter, News. 294 00:20:28,279 --> 00:20:29,599 Speaker 2: Traffic and Sports then more. 295 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm Dominique, the Primia for KVLA Talk fifteen eighty. Yeah. 296 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: I do appreciate you. 297 00:20:35,319 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate you waking up with me. 298 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 299 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: The uh, the trial they call it the trial of 300 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,400 Tupac shakor the murder trial, it's really the trial of 301 00:20:50,759 --> 00:20:54,720 Duayne Davis. I mean, because Tupac is no longer with us, 302 00:20:54,799 --> 00:20:59,759 rest in peace. This happened thirty years ago. They did 303 00:20:59,799 --> 00:21:06,960 opening statements on yesterday, prosecutors say it was all about, 304 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:12,880 you know, a gang rivalry, and. 305 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 2: I guess you know. 306 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: Again you wonder, okay, if you know all this, why 307 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,160 why is it coming now? Why is it all? Why 308 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:33,480 is this coming out now? They're saying that mister Davis 309 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:42,400 ordered the murder of Tupac. They're also saying that Pak 310 00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:45,319 was conscious after he was shot when he was on 311 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,000 his way to the hospital, but that he wasn't cooperating. 312 00:21:50,079 --> 00:21:51,440 That's what they're claiming. 313 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:52,599 Speaker 3: It. 314 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: According to. 315 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,799 Speaker 1: Their first witness, Gary Dale, who is from your home town, Miles, 316 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:12,599 Las Vegas Metro police officer who wrote in the ambulance 317 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,359 with him. At least that's what he says. 318 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: And that. 319 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: He says that when he asked Tupac who shot him, 320 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:26,200 and Pac said no, we'll take care of it. 321 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 2: And that he would refuse to speak any further. 322 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: You know, I I know that there are a lot 323 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:42,640 of documentaries and books and speculations about Po's murder, and 324 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,440 I've had my own private conversations with people that knew 325 00:22:46,519 --> 00:22:50,000 him really well, people from Vegas, people from here. But 326 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,160 I can't say that I've read every do you read 327 00:22:54,240 --> 00:23:00,359 every every book? And watch every documentary about Tupac's murder. 328 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: Have never will why it's water day. I mean, I 329 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:07,880 don't want to. 330 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 4: I don't want to sound insensitive because you know you're 331 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,319 doing more than I'm doing. But it feels insensitive and genuine, 332 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,240 and I don't need to get into the weeds and 333 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:21,680 everything to, you know, to to feel how I feel 334 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,440 about the situation. 335 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: Didn't change anything about me at this point. 336 00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to figure out why I don't, 337 00:23:27,079 --> 00:23:30,440 because you know, I knew him and I. 338 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,839 Speaker 2: Was really really sad. 339 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: I think it's because I don't trust it too. It 340 00:23:35,319 --> 00:23:37,759 just seems like a bunch of blah blah blah blah, 341 00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:41,119 Like if you really were going to tell the truth 342 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,039 about what happened to Tupac, why did it take thirty 343 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,400 years and even the ones that you know, there's been 344 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:53,079 documentaries and there's been articles and books in between those 345 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,920 thirty years, But I just it's it's kind of I 346 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,839 just don't feel like we're getting the truth, the whole, 347 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,480 even of what they actually know. And maybe that makes 348 00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:07,319 me a conspiracy theorist, but my gut says, nah, it's 349 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,640 fishy as hell. 350 00:24:09,519 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: I'm right there with you. I'm not. 351 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:13,799 Speaker 4: I'm said, I'm not following this trial. I haven't been 352 00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:16,480 following the trial step by step like that. So and 353 00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:20,599 I don't plan on, uh if, I don't plan on 354 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,559 watching this whole episode to the very end, you know. 355 00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:24,559 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I guess. 356 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,799 Speaker 4: We'll see the results of it for sure, but I'm 357 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:28,279 not attached to it at all. 358 00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, to his brother's point, none of 359 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,599 it is going to bring Pop back, right, So. 360 00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like I. 361 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,759 Speaker 1: Need to let you guys know this is happening and 362 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,559 follow it to the extent of, you know, anything that 363 00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:55,119 seems to come out that feels relevant. But basically they're 364 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:02,920 saying the you know, two rival gangs in LA and 365 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,160 that's what led to it, you know, kind of the 366 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,720 stuff we already have heard. I mean, I guess from 367 00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:17,640 Duayne Keefe d himself, from various people speculating. I remember 368 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:26,640 after my auntie Kimako Jones, who was also aka Sandra 369 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,359 Elaine Jones, who was an you know, a Broadway actress 370 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,359 and a dancer, my dad's sister, when she was murdered, 371 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,160 you know, and then again when my sister, my younger sister, 372 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:48,440 Shawnee was murdered. My dad would challenge, you know, law enforcement, 373 00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:52,720 why is it taking you so long? Isn't this what 374 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:57,039 you do? And so again thirty years later. It just 375 00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:05,240 it doesn't sound credible. But perhaps I'll follow a little 376 00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:11,720 closer this time, since they're since they've taken it to 377 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:19,359 actual court. Yeah. I also think about this in terms of, 378 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,119 you know, people's lyrics now being used against them, and 379 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,200 that's really popular in Georgia, but it's it's something we'll 380 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,160 probably be seeing more and more of. And then in 381 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,720 this case, this guy's book and all of his podcasts 382 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,920 and radio interviews and TV being used against him and 383 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:44,680 now he's denying that. I yeah, I don't think that works. 384 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,200 And I don't know does this change the record? Does 385 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,799 this change the official record? 386 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 2: Is it? 387 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,759 Speaker 1: What will it take for us to really know what 388 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,960 happened to Tupac or Biggie. 389 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,319 Speaker 2: For that matter. 390 00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:09,519 Speaker 1: You know, why are these two crimes still largely unsolved? 391 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 392 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't sit right with me, but FYI, the trial 393 00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:23,000 is well underway and Selena says, I don't like stories 394 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:27,440 with violent endings. Well, yeah, and we don't. And any 395 00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:30,680 c Courton calls it fabricated narratives and the exploitation of 396 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,920 another black man. And of course, you know, it would 397 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,920 be great if we could bring him back or bring 398 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:40,519 some measure of relief onto his family. But from what 399 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,279 I'm hearing from them, they don't find that to be 400 00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:46,519 of comfort. 401 00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me either, you know. 402 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,279 Speaker 1: Okay, thirty years later, when my sister was murdered, the 403 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,799 killer was on the loose four I don't know, I'm 404 00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:02,839 going to say over a week, maybe a week and 405 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:12,240 a half. And it was excruciating that week and a half, 406 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,039 like where is this guy? Are they going to find him? 407 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,359 We knew who it was, and I just can't even 408 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,160 imagine for Pox's family thirty years of like getting mixed 409 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:35,039 stories and rumors and and and biopics and books and 410 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,680 everybody's got a theory, but nobody's coming to you with anything. 411 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: Verifiable. 412 00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine that week and a week and 413 00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:51,599 a half of waiting for, you know, some answers around 414 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:57,599 my sister Shawnie was like felt like ten years. So 415 00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:00,839 you know, if anything, I'm sending out prayers and love 416 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,960 light to the family of Tupac Shicre for sure right now, 417 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:13,200 because they gotta relive their trauma every time we do this. Myles, 418 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,200 what do you make of Genie Buss holding up the 419 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:24,000 sale of the Lakers? I, you know, I I find 420 00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:26,240 it kind of cool. I don't know that, you know, 421 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:28,440 I don't know anything about it. 422 00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: They're saying. 423 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:32,799 Speaker 1: Ray Richardson just said, it's that she wants to be 424 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,240 their official spokesperson at the Board of Governors. I wonder 425 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,000 if it has anything to do with who's buying it, 426 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:46,039 who's buying them and and you know what the politics 427 00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:47,400 behind this are. 428 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean just on the face of it, I mean, 429 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,880 it's that's a daddy's legacy. 430 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,519 Speaker 3: I get it. 431 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 4: I get it one hundred percent. I get you still 432 00:29:57,759 --> 00:29:59,960 want to be a part of it. I mean, look, Lakers, 433 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,359 I don't see that even with Lebron leaving, you know, 434 00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:06,160 I mean, I don't see that being a dying brand 435 00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:09,519 going forward for the next decade, maybe twenty years. The 436 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,440 NBA is still growing and expanding internationally. So I I 437 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,920 get her for trying to still be a part of 438 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,599 it in some way, shape or form, whether that be 439 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,559 for the personal love of it or just from the financial. 440 00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:20,519 Speaker 3: Point of it. 441 00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: Well, I guess that what they're saying is with. 442 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,039 Speaker 2: The Dodgers owner. 443 00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:31,559 Speaker 1: When he bought it, Mark Walter, she would have still 444 00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:36,279 been the representative. But now that Kushner and Bob Iger 445 00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:40,519 are buying it and they would take the family stake, 446 00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:42,359 then she would have been out the deal they had 447 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:48,000 she would still represent for five years, but now with 448 00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:52,319 Kushner buying it, she would no longer have that agency 449 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,680 to do that. She wouldn't be eligible. And there's five 450 00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:58,200 siblings and they all five have to agree. That's funny 451 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,119 because my mom, you know, we don't have the Lakers. 452 00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:05,720 We have some poetry books. We own books of poetry. 453 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,079 But the five of us all have to agree. Well, 454 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,359 actually no, we all five. We don't have to have 455 00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:14,599 we have to have three out of five. They have 456 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,240 to have a unanimous five to do anything. We would 457 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,920 never get anything done if all five of us had 458 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,119 to agree, only three out of five. But can she 459 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:31,559 shut this down? I wonder if if she shuts down 460 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,119 that's seventeen percent that's still owned by this five siblings. 461 00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:40,960 Would that prevent the deal from going forward? Or would 462 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,839 they just go forward with Kushner and Iiger. It's the 463 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,839 deal still has to be approved by the Board of 464 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,480 Governors for. 465 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: The NBA. 466 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's gonna What looks like to me 467 00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:56,640 is that it's just the family still owns a percentage 468 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:56,839 of it. 469 00:31:57,359 --> 00:31:58,119 Speaker 2: Seventeen Yeah. 470 00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:02,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, she'll still be She'll still there'll still be over 471 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,880 that seventeen percent or fifteen. 472 00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:05,519 Speaker 2: Per No, but that's what they're trying to buy. 473 00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: The seventeen percent Before, like Mark Walter, I guess they 474 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,559 were gonna keep that, but now the Kushner group wants 475 00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:13,519 the whole what the whole thing? Yeah, they want the 476 00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:16,079 whole thing, and the other four siblings have agreed to sell. 477 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,039 Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is I think that what happen 478 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,079 is I think that I think the deal still even 479 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,599 if Jenie Buss holds Titans and I'm gonna hold on 480 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,279 to this fifteen percent and stop the deal from being 481 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,200 the whole thing, I still think that she still may 482 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,319 be a part of the team. And if they do 483 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,720 end up selling it, but even if they don't end 484 00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:37,359 up telling it, I still see the team still being sold. 485 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: With her so old in seventy percent. That makes sense, 486 00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:39,440 don't makes sense? 487 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: You're saying that even if they do sell that she 488 00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:45,440 still could be the she could still be the face 489 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,920 of it. That might be the compromise. 490 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 4: I think they still take the eighty three percent regardless 491 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,079 if Genie wants to hold on to. 492 00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: It, right Yeah, yeah, And she's been having she's been 493 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,400 fighting with her siblings anyway, they went to court about 494 00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:03,119 you know, their trust and who controls what, and they 495 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,759 may create a new deal in. 496 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,279 Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen, so we'll see. 497 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 3: It. 498 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: Seems like from what I'm reading, she has the power 499 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,839 to stop that, which would mean the Kushner family would 500 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,880 still have to have her as the face of the 501 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,759 Lakers at the board of governors and for five years, 502 00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:23,559 and that you know, I don't know, you know, she 503 00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:29,240 would still have a pretty big footprint. A seventeen percent 504 00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:32,640 share of the team is a powerful shareholder. 505 00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 506 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: I know you're saying, you know, with even without Lebron. 507 00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:40,920 Of course, the Lakers, you know, were huge before Lebron, 508 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,720 they'll be huge after Lebron. I just wonder about the 509 00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:47,079 whole Kushner thing and Eiger thing for the brand, because 510 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,440 I'm already hearing people on social media switching to the 511 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,359 Clippers because they don't want to root for a team 512 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,440 that's owned by the family of Trump's in laws. 513 00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:05,279 Speaker 3: Basketball fans said, yeah, yeah. 514 00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 4: I get it, but that was okay, that just shocked 515 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:09,079 right there to see the switch over because of the 516 00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:09,719 team ownership. 517 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: But I got, oh yeah, I've maybe it's the people 518 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,280 on my timeline, but they're basketball fans. 519 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:17,559 Speaker 4: Got some some dirt over there going on too in 520 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:19,840 a Clippers organization, So well. 521 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so what are you saying? Warriors? 522 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: They got some dirt there too. Then got some dirt too, so. 523 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, pro sports, I've. 524 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,599 Speaker 4: Got seventeen, got seventeen banners up there, got you know, 525 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:36,039 all these retired jerseys and statues in the front, not 526 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:36,960 not the other two. 527 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: But that's all there is that I'll always be a 528 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,639 fan of Kobe no matter what happens with all these 529 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,280 super wealthy team owners and their dirty laundry. Eight hundred 530 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,280 nine two oh, fifteen eighty. If you want to weigh 531 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,800 in on any of the above, I'm Dominique Daprima for 532 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,880 KBLA Talk, fifteen eighty. Another huge case is moving forward 533 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:06,360 in California today, less splashy than the kify d murder trial, 534 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,280 but it is meta. The owners of Facebook and Instagram 535 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,360 being sued by a bunch of state's attorney state attorneys general, 536 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,440 led by California's own Rob Bonta. They lost to New 537 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,400 Mexico a couple of weeks ago, almost a billion dollars. 538 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,880 That loss Meta and the claim there the New Mexico 539 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,760 Attorney General, Raoul Torres, who's also part of this lawsuit, 540 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:39,760 was that they the algorithms intentionally addicted children and teens, 541 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:46,840 that the app fostered child exploitation. Opening arguments are this morning, 542 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,599 and they are trying to force the social media company 543 00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:55,320 to change Facebook and Instagram, change the designs. We could 544 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,239 see a massive judgment. I mean, we were talking about 545 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,559 almost a billion in New Mexico, which is tiny compared 546 00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:07,239 to California, right, and California is you know, leading twenty 547 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,519 other twenty nine excuse me, other attorneys general. 548 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: So that's a lot. 549 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: It's more than half of our states. Obviously, this case 550 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,679 was brought in twenty twenty three, but it's going to 551 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,719 be argued here now, starting today. And there's a lot 552 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,320 of stake for Meta because first of all, they could 553 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,920 I mean, you know, we're talking could be billions and 554 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:39,519 billions and billions. Experts are calling Meta the new big tobacco. Right, 555 00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:42,599 Remember all the money they had to pay to mitigate 556 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,360 all the harms that they did in addicting children and 557 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,639 the health impacts on young people. They're calling it the 558 00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:00,519 new big tobacco. And if you look at the billions 559 00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:02,960 and billions a big tobacco pay, this is what we're 560 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,199 talking about. But it's not only the money. Of course, 561 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:12,639 the money is consequential, but it's also what changes can 562 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,679 the state force to the design and the algorithm of 563 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:24,199 these social media platforms. California is huge. 564 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,039 Speaker 3: It's like a. 565 00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:28,679 Speaker 1: Country, right, and if they lose here, it's going to 566 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,039 be a big deal and it could be a lot 567 00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:39,960 of money. And you know, Mark Zuckerberg has invested a 568 00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:48,039 whole pile of money in artificial intelligence. They're saying up 569 00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:54,119 to one hundred and forty five billion invested in artificial intelligence. 570 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,280 Who pays for that? Facebook and Instagram? So if a 571 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,400 judge said, as you know what, you've got to change 572 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,599 this algorithm, you have to change the design of this 573 00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:10,960 whole app, it's going to cost him money. And that's 574 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,320 going to be a problem because they're out over way 575 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,519 out over their skis. As the business people like to say, 576 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:25,159 on artificial intelligence. A New Mexico judge said they had 577 00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:29,039 to pay five hundred and sixty seven million into an 578 00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:34,559 abatement fund because of child exploitation allegations, another three hundred 579 00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:40,159 and seventy five million for violating the state's Unfair Practices Act. 580 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,960 Of course, they're going to appeal it, and good luck 581 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,280 with that. Maybe they'll get a Trump judge, or maybe 582 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,320 they'll get all the way to the extreme court, you know, 583 00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:54,880 and pay folks off. But it's not looking good right now, 584 00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,480 right and with twenty nine states on the line, it's 585 00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:03,800 not just the fact that California is ginormous, it's also 586 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,119 the fact that California is leading all of these other 587 00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:13,960 places that have the same complaints, including. 588 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 2: What they say are. 589 00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: Deceptive practices around safety and age controls, which we all 590 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,920 know are just a big joke. That's one of the 591 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,199 things they've been ordered to do is in New Mexico 592 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:36,119 is make it actually have actual age controls that actually work. 593 00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:41,159 And the other thing they're on the hook for is 594 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,639 lying to parents about just how dangerous these apps can 595 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,800 be for young minds. So a lot is on the 596 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,400 line in California today. For your favorite apps, your Facebook, 597 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,960 your Instagram, and if you look at the way, let's say, 598 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:03,679 if you've ever tried to read an article that has 599 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,239 a paywall, if you've ever tried to get into one 600 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,639 of your own accounts without your password and two factor verification, 601 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,400 you know that the Internet knows how to keep people 602 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,639 out of places they want to keep people out of. 603 00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:23,119 And that is not what has been happening. It's why 604 00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:26,320 I laugh when you know when you see people getting 605 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,440 censored on Twitter, where you can post pornography and Nazi propaganda, 606 00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:40,519 but apparently certain left wing buzzwords are problematic. They know 607 00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:43,000 how to stop what they want to stop. So when 608 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,480 we see something not being stopped, we have to assume 609 00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:52,440 that is intentional. Good luck to the twenty nine state 610 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,320 attorneys general in this case. Next hour, Mile I'll be 611 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,320 joined by my colleague doctor Nie Cordelais Coortell take a 612 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,719 look at the political landscape across the nation. I'm Dominique 613 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,559 Diaprima for KBLA Talk 614 00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: Fifteen eighty KBLA fifteen eighty Santa Monica