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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirkupp created Jesus Generation, and I've been gifted to

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get to know some very faithful young men. And on

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the topic of the Jesus Generation, I want to introduce

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you today to my CrossFit coach James Sprague. Won the

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Games a year before third this year, and I don't

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think he'd be doing.

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Speaker 2: This without Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about faith, we're going to

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talk about freedom, and we're going to talk about fitness.

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Speaker 2: And we'll do this with the help of Bisible Go

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bisible dot com and of course with God Almighty.

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Speaker 3: But Todd Herman Show is one disapproved by big pharma

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technocrats in Tyran's everywhere from the high mountains of Free America.

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Here's the Emerald City exime Todd Herman.

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Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made and these

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are the times through which God has decided. Chelfe and

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James Sprague, Welcome to the Todd Hermit Show. And yeah,

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I'm not going to make the joke about getting my

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hand broken because everybody does.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me, Todd. It's We've been planning

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this out for what a couple months now, and things

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finally opened up and the schedule to be here, So

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I'm stoked to be chatting with you about all good

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things today. Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have a belief about you that I

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shared in the intro, and that is that. And I

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want you to answer this question. We'll get to this

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in a second, but I want you to think about this.

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Could you be where you're at in life without Jesus Christ,

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No chance. Yeah, I didn't even need to think about it.

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Speaker 4: No, don't even need to think about it. I have

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been blessed more than I can imagine with things, experiences,

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opportunities in the last of years since I gave my

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life to him and I got baptized in October knows

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August of twenty twenty three. And yeah, I gave my

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life over to him about two years ago, and ever

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since then, it's just been you know, there's hard things

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in life, but there's just so much good in life

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since giving my life to Christ.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and your father, Who've got to know your dad, Pat,

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He kind of led the way in that as well.

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And I know Jesus Christ has been has been the

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motivating change.

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Speaker 2: In your dad's life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. So my dad, ever since he

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got sober it was almost fourteen years ago. Now he has.

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You know, in AA, they teach you to find a god,

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and obviously for us it's our word and savior, Jesus Christ.

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But they just want you to take everything off yourself,

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take any idolatry of yourself or alcohol or substance or

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whatever your addiction is, and put it into something a

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higher power. And obviously there's one true higher power upper

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case g God. And my dad found him when he

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got sober, truly found him, I would say, when he

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got sober and realized, you know, I can't do this

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on my own.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And your dad and I've talked faith, We've talked

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fit this. Your dad's also a very very skilled and

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successful CrossFit athlete. And you know I mentioned this before,

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but you know, sometimes when you're teaching me, you've been

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kind enough to do some in person coaching with me,

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and the best coaching experiences I've.

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Speaker 2: Ever had, So thank you, so glad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you have taught me, we've been talking about

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mastering movements and you once said to me, Todd, you

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know I've mastered that movement. And then you said to me,

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I've done this for thirteen years.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 1: Remember that, and I look at you and I think,

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but you're twenty three, right, And that brings us to

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mind that you're twenty three and we just lost a

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guy who was thirty one years old and had a

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family and a wife.

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Speaker 2: And where were you?

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Speaker 1: I assume we've tracked the news and you saw what

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happened to Charlie Kirk and where you were and how

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that hit you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my gosh. So it's been since recording this,

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it's been eight days now, which is wild. Every day

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has been heavy, I would say, on my heart on

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a lot of Christian's hearts, a lot of people that

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listened to his content and knew the kind of man

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he was. I was in the gym doing some gymnastics

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intervals with my buddies. We were heart rates were high,

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and we're in a rest interval and we get this news.

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My buddy opens his platform and sees this video, and

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the first thing that goes to my mind is like,

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this is fake. You know, this is AI generated, Like,

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oh you know what, Like this didn't really happen, And

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I'm kind of just in like denial a little bit.

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Charlie actually was a man who inspired me to start

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being bold about my faith and not be scared of

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any conversation. So Charlie's content I was listening to all

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the time. It was he was a guy that just

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inspired me in so many ways to just be fearless.

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mind when I think of him. He was a fearless leader.

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He didn't he didn't he didn't care about any judgment,

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had to say about him. He was on a he

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was on an unstoppable mission. And so, you know, I

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got that news and obviously I'm just kind of like pausing,

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like what does this mean? Like where do we go

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from here? This is obviously the first time I, as

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a twenty three year old, have experienced something like this,

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a big put, a whole leader, you know, a man

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of God being martyred. And so this was this is

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something I'm still like digesting and learning how to process with.

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But Todd, have you seen anything like this in your

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day and age?

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Speaker 2: That's a great question, James.

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Speaker 1: You know, I I've seen you know, assassination attempts, A said,

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the assassination attempt on President Reagan. I've seen people I

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looked up to die. I would liken it to the

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day that that's that they laid President Reagan to rest.

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I mean, we knew that he was going to die.

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I remember when he was shot, and clearly that made

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a huge huge impact on me and learning later that

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having been shot, there was so much that happened behind that.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He went into the hospital and James, it was, it

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was miraculous. God saved that man. Those bullets should have

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taken him out. He's on the stretcher and they they're

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wheeling him in and a doctor comes up, as always

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kids me, Yeah, doctor comes up. Sis, Uh, mister President,

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We're gonna take good care of you. And he said, well,

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I have one question, and he said, what's happen, mister president?

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Speaker 2: Is are you Republican? And the doctor said. The doctor said,

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mister President, today were all Republican and they went in.

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Speaker 1: And there were people who died in that, and there

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are people who are maimed in that. And President Trump,

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I'm from the President. Reagan said I need to go

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show people. I'm okay, I need to show the world

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we have a president. And they said you can't, sir,

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I said, no, I will. And so there's this scene

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that you'll see President Reagan waving to people and through

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the hospital window with his smile, and he had his

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suit coat on and his tie, and behind him there

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were people holding him up because he couldn't stand on

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his own. And so James, I remember when he was

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laid to rest, his wife Nancy couldn't bring herself to

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release the the the coffin she.

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Speaker 2: Was laying on it. Yeah, and did you weep when

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you learned about trucky there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there were some definitely heavy tears.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't oh okay, yeah it was.

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Speaker 4: It was. It was later. It was when I got home,

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and then the next day just kind of chatting about

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it with some friends, and then in the car during

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prayer time. Oh yeah, it's it's been heavy. I actually

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watched the Reagan movie. Have you seen the Reagan movie.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet.

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Speaker 4: It's incredible. So that scene you're describing, they don't show

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him being held up, but they do that Republican scene

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with the doctor. I remember that scene specifically. And then

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one of my favorite songs to that makes me think

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about my wife is actually a song they played in

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that movie where he was dancing with Nancy having a

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slow dance. It's one of the first times that they

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actually interacted before they got married. Yeah, it's my eyes

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adored you, Yes, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then I love playing that song with my wife

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now because it makes me think of their relationship and

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their unconditional love to each other. Like the movie is not.

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It's premised on their marriage and its president premise on

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his presidency, and it's it's just so beautiful because they

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had this this love for each other and the love

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for the country that you just you know, you see

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in office nowadays. But that was just a different presidency.

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you'll know why. It was just it was very cool.

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Speaker 2: No, my wife and I will watch it.

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Speaker 1: Our song, we've we've got some different songs for different reasons,

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but we we danced to Come Away with Me by

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Norah Jones Uh And my mom and her late husband

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had to teach us how the waltz. So anytime that

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comes on, you know, I feel that and you know

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you're speaking at faith in this this How How did

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how do you as a man of faith look at

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this and answer the question, because you're going to get

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this from guys your generation. People generation are gonna say, okay, James,

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tell me why your God let this happen. Your God

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allowed this to happen to this guy you think is

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a good guy. So tell me why why your God

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would do that? How do you respond stuff like that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I respond, And that's that's not an act of God.

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That's an active man. Man has a choice. You've probably

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talked about this on your podcast. For we have free

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will for a reason to use it for good or

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for evil, or for whatever you choose to. If we

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didn't have free will and we were forced to do something,

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you know, I think that would not make our God good.

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have a choice. Obviously, he wants us to choose him.

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Choose righteousness, choose peace, choose kindness, choose uplifting, choose to serve.

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lot of people these days who choose their own way,

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choose to see, choose lying, choose to live to live

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in their own truth. And God has a truth and

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it is not what this shooter was. This shooter was,

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in my opinion, overtaken by darkness there was, There was

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demons inside of this person. There was so much evil

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inside of him that obviously God can help with. But

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you have to have him into your heart to allow

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him to help and mend that and heal that. And

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so you know, when if someone asked me that, I

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would say, that's not a work of God at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And they we'll talk though, brother about like, Okay, but

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you just said that he saved Reagan, why didn't he

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save Kirk. And one of the things I will say

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to respond to that is I don't know why God

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makes his decisions, but I know who God is, so

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I know he only does this far good.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm watching and I've gotten.

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Speaker 1: Four or five emails this week from people saying, hey,

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you know what happened to Charlie.

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Speaker 2: That's the final straw. I'm going back to church. I'm

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going to church.

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Speaker 1: And I've had I was just at a a Bible

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group to the day, Bible city group, faith group, disciplileship

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group with some brothers my age two men. Had family

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members say that's it. There's evilness world. I'm coming to God.

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I need your help. I want to understand Jesus. I

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want to come to church and I can see you know,

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I can see Charlie Kirk in heaven with Jesus is

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Jesus is going look look look.

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Speaker 4: What you did.

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Speaker 1: Look look look what and this is hey, And I'm

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going to be there for a family. I'm like, I'm God,

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I'm going to take care of family.

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Speaker 2: Your wife and kids.

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Speaker 1: They're going to miss you and they're gonna be okay,

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and we're gonna pour love into them. And to me,

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that's that's a very inspiring thing because when my dad died,

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I encountered his soul and my dad came to Jesus

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late like and it took a pot smoking cowboy pastor

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from Idaho to bring my dad to the Lord. But James,

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when my dad passed, I encountered his soul and my

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dad was happy and my dad was not a happy man.

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So this is a topic that's got to be near

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to your hearts. It's about recovery, it's about taking care

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of the body, and it's about edge science. My friends

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at renew Healthcare are are very convinced that they're going

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to introduce a cure to diabetes in the next six months.

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Speaker 2: To a year. How could that possibly be? How could

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stem cells do that? Well?

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Speaker 1: The stem cells it renew are extraordinarily well cared for,

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unlike the stuff you're allowed to do in America. First

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of other donor cells, which is illegal here, they know

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the mother and they get to know the baby because

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they track their health during pregnancy and afterwards. They then

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take the placentas and the biblical cords, and they extract

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the wart and jelly portion of the umbilical cords and

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they take that. They walk it's all of about a

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five minute walk from a world class hospital to their

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world class lab. There, they examine the cells and they

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reject sometimes eighty percent of the material they get because

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it's not to their standards. They then culture the cells

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that remain. This allows them to have absolutely the best

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possible purity and potency when this goes into your bodies,

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unlike what happens in America. They have addressed things like

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neurological issues, partial paralyzation. They've addressed things like people being

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unable to open and close their hands. They can keep

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you out of surgery. You might not need surgery for

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your knee or back. I didn't need surgery in my

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back price gods, and yeah, that cure for diabetes. It's

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because these stem cells are actually success full out resetting

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people's entire immune systems and destroying inflammation in the body.

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No matter what you're ailing from, I want you to

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give them a check see if they can help you.

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It's renew dot Healthcare. Renew dot health Care. They can't

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help with everything, and when they can't, they'll tell you

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they couldn't keep me out of surgery on either of

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my shoulders, but man, they helped me with recovering my

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second one. It's renewed r E n U E dot Healthcare.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And so I've seen a resurgence, and I want to

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see if you see the same thing that you know.

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I'm in my late fifties. Clearly you know that as

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my coach. But is there the resurgence that a lot

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of us see with particularly men your age coming to

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the Lord? Because, man, from where I sit, James, the

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numbers indicate it. Colloquially, I'm seeing it. Are you experiencing

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it with people your age?

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Speaker 4: So at twenty three years old, it's kind of this

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weird time. People are just getting out of college, they're

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finding new jobs. I would say it's a big age

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where if you haven't matured yet, you have to get

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your act together. And I think I'm with people my

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age or people I went to school with, is they're

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realizing this, this college partying life, this this going out

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and finding pleasure in worldly things life, it's not gonna last.

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people my age. You know, I can't speak to the

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high school generation right now because I don't really know

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where they're at. And I do have friends, obviously, I

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have a lot of friends. I try and associate myself with,

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you know, people of God and people that can encourage

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me and to be better as well in that way.

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But I would say, just from an outside in perspective

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of people I'm seeing at my age, young people, young adults,

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there's a huge revival going on and I think people

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are waking up and realizing I need something more. I

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need truth, and they'll place you. If you want to

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find truth, you find it in Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, praise God. When you win the games and you

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performed so well this year, it's just oh so well,

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it was a great games this year. For sure, Games

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is a great games. But when you won and the

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camera came to you, you immediately had scripture on your tongue,

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and before you spoke with sponsors anything else, you spoke

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of the Lord Jesus Christ. Number one, as I said

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at the time, personally, thank you for that. Number two.

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Did you pay a cost for that at all? With friends,

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Speaker 4: So you could say it was paying a cost, But

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I don't look at it at all as paying a cost,

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if you want to look at it objectively as paying

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a cost. I got maybe a quarter of the followers

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you might get from winning the games. As someone who

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typically might win the games. I got a lot of

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pushback from people fans for proclaiming the gospel and for

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actually continuing on in the competition, because if those of

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you who don't know who are listening to this, we

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actually had a competitor pass away during the twenty twenty

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four a Cross of Games tragically an event one. He drowned,

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and it was a big discussion between the Cross, the community,

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and the athletes about continuation on of the games. And

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there's a lot of us who decided the best way

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to honor our competitor would to be moving on with

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the competition, and so you know, I felt like dedicating

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the competition obviously to our friend Lazare who passed away,

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was the only way I could continue doing the sport

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and continue on with that competition for sure. So there

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was a lot of pushback, but for the pushback that

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I got, there were ten times more comments about James,

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I'm so proud of you for sharing your faith and

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sharing what the world need to hear in this moment.

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And there was there was no part of me that

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thought there was another way to go about it. It

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was every time I got an interview, I needed to

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just share hope because it was such a dark time

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in our space and such a hard time for everyone

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to process, especially those who don't understand what happens after death,

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for Christians and those that don't have a belief in God.

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Because for us there's hope, there there's eternity. And for

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most people, you know, obviously, people that aren't believers, they

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see death is this end in this this horrible thing,

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and me and you see as a horrible thing. What

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we see is a new start and a new beginning

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with and and honestly a beautiful new beginning. And so

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that that was hard to for the people that didn't

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understand the hope that I had. They just thought I

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was pushing his death aside. They thought that I was,

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you know, being selfish by continuing, and so there was

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there was a lot of that, But like I said,

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on the other side, there was also a lot of

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people who supported mission.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We had Greg Glassman, you know, Greg the founder of

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Cross fred On, and we talked about that drowning. Yeah,

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and Greg had a lot to say about that and

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has had some things to stay behind the scenes as well.

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Speaker 2: And I'll respect that to that limit. You know.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to the fitness component of this

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because one of my drives in life is is to

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help guys my age and people my age and people

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younger to understand you don't need to live in ways

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that are unhealthy. And I've told you this. I think

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I've told you this, you know, and I can you pictures.

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I weighed almost four hundred pounds at a certain point

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not so long ago, thirty nine percent body fat.

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Speaker 2: So you know what the average body fat is for

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men my age in this country.

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Speaker 4: It's got to be high. It's got to be over thirty.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, the average average body fat For guys

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my age is that thirty nine percent?

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Speaker 4: That is insane.

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Speaker 1: And for guys your age, we're seeing now numbers in

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the thirties. For guys your age, oh my god. And

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so these are decisions people make. And I tie this

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to the temple. You know, our body is a temple.

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But I want to get there by way of talking

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about freedom. And I want to ask you a question.

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Do you discern a difference between freedom of freedom and liberty?

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Speaker 4: I've never thought about that question. Can you define liberty

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for me? Because I think I could define freedom, But

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what do you define when you start by defining freedom

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the ability to act in a way that you think

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is right. Okay, let's start with.

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Speaker 1: That well defined. So the libertarian thing says, your freedom

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and your freedom to swing your arm ends at my nose.

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That's how the libertarians put it. So do it all

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you like, just don't hit me. It's interesting because that

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masters up with what we're told is the Satanic Church's

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definition of their faith. Do it's thout will. Used to

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be that that used to be their pitch, do as

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thout will.

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Speaker 2: Now they've added, so long as you harm no other effectively.

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So question about as.

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Speaker 1: A Christian man, do we truly believe in freedom or

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do we believe in liberty? Because liberty can be defined

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as freedom within limits.

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Speaker 4: Oh, then I would say we believe in liberty because

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God sets our boundaries and our parameters and our limits.

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Speaker 1: Right things we can choose to do. And God's also

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the inventor of accountability.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So I think that one of the things we as

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Christian men need to do is I think we need

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to talk with people about the difference between freedom and liberty.

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Because freedom that alleged slation. He had the freedom to

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get up on a rooftop, He had the freedom to

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take a life. He allegedly did that, and I believe

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he did. He had the freedom to fall into sin.

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God says that, hey, when people have I've been exposed

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to me. Everybody can find me. The right and wrong

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is within you. Paul talks about this and you reject that,

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then God has given people over to all sorts of

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perversions and darkness, and that was your freedom.

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Speaker 2: You chose that.

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Speaker 1: I think we as Christian men need to talk with

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brothers about the joy of liberty, having freedom within constraints,

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because yes, you're free to eat of that fruit, and

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you're also free to get the disease from that fruit.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: So do you think that would resonate with guys your age,

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freedom versus liberty?

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Speaker 4: I think if they can see where the freedom, just

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the complete freedom mindset can lead them into dangerous places,

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that would It's It's just such an interesting conversation because

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I've never thought of it that way and also never

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thought of the difference between those two terms. If I'm

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if I'm just you know, pondering on it. I'm not

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thinking that deep about it, but honestly, like that is

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such a good thought and such an intentional way of

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explaining why we live as we do, not because we're

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forced under a set of rules or you know, we're

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we're in utter fear. There's a fear of God and

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then there's like I'm scared of God. That's not it.

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The fear of God is just wanting to please him

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and wanting to do as he calls us to. And uh, yeah,

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I think that a lot of men would resonate that

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in my age and just understanding that, you know, we're

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given these choices, but we we should have the power

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to use them for good and be be in those

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restraints and boundaries because it's for our own good. And

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when you're talking about the fitness industry and being a

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Christian and treating your body like a temple, I see

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a lot of people not moving their bodies and staying

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in one place and actually not experiencing life as they

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can could be because they're not working on their body,

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which is a temple. And I believe if we're healthier,

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just every part of life gets better. You know, that's

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also with the food choices you make. When your food choices,

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your sleep, your workouts that you're doing, and your fitness

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routine as a whole. If you take that seriously, it's

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incredible how much easier things in life get and how

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much more enjoyable things in life get. Imagine going to Disneyland.

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This is just a fun example, and you have to

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do ten thousand steps as a five hundred pound person.

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How fun is Disneyland gonna be? Oh, it's gonna be

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horrible to you?

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Speaker 2: That's metaphorical. To me, that's not metaphorical.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to me going to Disneyland when and I wasn't

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I wasn't four hundred pounds at that point, but I

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was two eighty. Yeah, and I'm not a big dude.

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I mean, I'm not a tall guy like you are.

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I will tell you what that's like. Yeah, you have

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Your back aches, your knees ache. It's another set of

478
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,799
steps you have to go do. And at that point,

479
00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:06,559
I mean I was still lifting and lifting heavy weights.

480
00:23:06,759 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 4: You're not even that thirty nine. Oh I was.

481
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: I was probably at that mark at least at that point,

482
00:23:13,279 --> 00:23:16,240
but I was still you know, I still enjoyed moving

483
00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:18,480
heavy iron. But see there's all this thing, Hey, wow,

484
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,319
you can bench press your body weight. Because I'll tell people, yeah,

485
00:23:21,319 --> 00:23:24,160
you know what, my top bench press was three seventy five. Oh,

486
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,680
that's awesome, you're strong. Yeah what I weighed three seventy five. Yeah,

487
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,359
So it's it's not I mean, weight moves weight. But

488
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,440
there's also though this is something of the world, and

489
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:33,759
you talked.

490
00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:37,319
Speaker 2: About food choices, et cetera. I truly have a belief.

491
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: That that that we've been so much of the population

492
00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:45,880
has been conned into eating drugs and thinking is food right?

493
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: And I want to talk about that.

494
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: In just a second, please, One thing I know about

495
00:23:49,279 --> 00:23:53,720
James like me, James, he I'll say this uses caffeine,

496
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,519
and I think enjoys caffeine. In fact, I know brother,

497
00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:58,799
that you are hyper caffeinated. You have to be when

498
00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:01,160
you work out for a living and workout at eight

499
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,960
hours a day. So for me, my choicer caffeine changed.

500
00:24:05,559 --> 00:24:08,440
And it used to be that I would shug a

501
00:24:08,599 --> 00:24:13,079
mason jar filled with three four scoops of freeze dried

502
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,920
folgers in ice water. Now I still like an iced coffee.

503
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,200
I had ice bone Frog the other day, and yes

504
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:21,680
you can use buying bone Frog coffee for ice. This

505
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506
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Frog means. The insignia the frog that bone Frog means

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508
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509
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517
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have ascribe you some waters, so thank you so much.

518
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

519
00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:09,039
Speaker 1: I when I weighed that big almost four hunderd pounds,

520
00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:14,160
I came to understand that I was chasing a drug high,

521
00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:15,680
an insulin high.

522
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 2: And I learned this because I went.

523
00:25:17,079 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: To a workshop of the guy who did He created

524
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,240
the zone, remember that diet, the Zone, Okay, So I

525
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,640
got to go see him speak and this all made

526
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,079
perfect sense to me, and so I started to practice

527
00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:31,960
this on my own and realizing that I was chasing

528
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,160
insulin highs and in fact getting insulin highs, that was

529
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,480
a huge change for me. And I see people to

530
00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:42,279
this day chasing insulin highs and this comes from overeating.

531
00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:45,039
And this is so easy to do in America, and

532
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,279
we're different than other countries. It's so easy to do

533
00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:50,880
in America. You walk into a grocery store anything but

534
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,720
the now back of the grocery store, everything in there

535
00:25:54,759 --> 00:25:57,640
is about insulin highs, and there's people that become addicted

536
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,200
to this. I also went at one point to I

537
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,200
got to go to the Taco Bell test kitchen, believe

538
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,079
it or not, in California. It was in Burbank, California,

539
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,119
just across in the airport, and I worked at Microsoft

540
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,960
at the time, and we had this big advertising relationship

541
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,559
with these guys. I'm walking through the test kitchen and

542
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:21,079
they've got two whiteboards filled with chemical equations chemistry, and

543
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,839
I stopped and said, Oh, that's fascinating.

544
00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: What is that.

545
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: She said, Oh, this is where our food chemists work

546
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,319
on the structures of the next foods we want to have.

547
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,160
And I've learned that the food chemistry is the same

548
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,039
thing as the social media chemistry, and this is something

549
00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:37,039
your generation is getting nailed in. Dude, are you guys

550
00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:38,039
are dopamine addicts?

551
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,279
Speaker 3: Man?

552
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:40,279
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you are, but a lot of

553
00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:43,279
people who are on that infinite scroll dopamine, dopamine, dopamine,

554
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:45,119
and that's a that's one heck of a dangerous and

555
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,799
powerful drug baffect. So they construct these foods in such

556
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:51,440
a way that it keys up your pleasure centers. Perfect

557
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,519
mix of salts, fats, and sugars, and it's all about

558
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:59,279
getting you addicted. To the point that Burger King apparently

559
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:03,559
studied the smell of the girl burgers. They broadcast that

560
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,599
stuff out right, that's not natural that all that smoke

561
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,480
is coming out of there.

562
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,839
Speaker 2: They're doing everything they can.

563
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: I got so bad that I for a while, I

564
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,599
had had no McDonald's. It had been like three years,

565
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480
and I conned myself into thinking, well, I'll just have

566
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,200
a double cheeseburger because that's macrobotica.

567
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,759
Speaker 2: Correct, that's a forty thirty thirty food.

568
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if you knew that,

569
00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:24,599
but that's an actual forty thirty thirty protein, carbhydrates fat.

570
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: I ate two of those, James.

571
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,559
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, by the time I was five

572
00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:31,720
minutes away, my body's going, I know, there's another McDonald's nearby,

573
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,319
And all of a sudden, for two weeks, I was

574
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,279
conning myself, well, now it's just a fish sandwich. Yeah,

575
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:39,519
and it's just some fries, and all of a sudden,

576
00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:42,119
I was, all of a sudden captured back into this

577
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:45,640
interesting So when people struggle with this stuff and you're

578
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,680
a guy who's you know, fit, and people look at you,

579
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,960
and James, I'm sorry, but they look at you and go.

580
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:53,279
Speaker 2: You've never struggled with that. You've never had any addiction problems.

581
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:55,519
You've never had any food problems. Ay, have you ever

582
00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:56,480
had any food problems?

583
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh still today? You know, as a guy

584
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:02,880
who trains six to eight hours a day, five days

585
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,799
a week, I have the freedom. I wouldn't say the liberty.

586
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:09,920
I have the freedom to eat whatever I want.

587
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,319
Speaker 3: Yep.

588
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: And I don't you put yourself in a state of liberty.

589
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 4: I do, I do, but I put myself in a

590
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,960
state of liberty. But sometimes I drift off into this

591
00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:22,640
mindset of, hey, since you trained so hard, you can

592
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,759
eat this pizza in this cake tonight, which there is

593
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:26,960
there is truth to that that I won't gain a

594
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,960
ton of waiter. It's not gonna push my training back

595
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,799
if I do it every once in a while. And

596
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,400
it actually isn't good good to enjoy that balance, because

597
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,119
I don't believe that, you know, if you restrict yourself

598
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,480
forever that. I think there's enjoyment in having a slice

599
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,880
of pizza every once in a while, or having that

600
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,759
bowl of ice cream with your wife, watching a movie

601
00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:46,160
like like that stuff. That stuff's enjoyable to me every

602
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,319
once in a while. But is that gonna help my training?

603
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:50,880
Is that can help my mission? Is that gonna help

604
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,640
me win competitions? Which is my goal to win every

605
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,680
time I step out there? No, but yes, I have struggled.

606
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,880
And in fact, in fifth, sixth and seventh grade, I

607
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:02,680
was one hundred and eighty five pounds and I was

608
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:06,519
five foot two. So I was a really overweight middle

609
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:11,160
schooler and I was depressed. I was anxious. I actually,

610
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:12,759
you know, I wanted to take my own life in

611
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:15,079
sixth grade, Well you did, I did, yeah, And I'll

612
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:18,599
share more about this. There was so much that was

613
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:22,359
eating at me because I was so heavy, and in

614
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,680
that time in middle school very judgmental time. Kids are

615
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:27,880
very hard on other kids. And I would go sit

616
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,759
down at lunch table and kids would move because they

617
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:31,480
didn't want to sit with me. I would try and

618
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:33,759
make friends and they would shine me off, and so

619
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,319
I just felt lonely. And I credited that to my weight.

620
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:40,279
I thought I was too overweight, and I thought that

621
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:43,079
that wasn't the popular thing, because all these people that

622
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:46,559
I wanted to be around were you know, these football, soccer,

623
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,880
basketball athletes who took care of their bodies and so

624
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,240
I was just sick of feeling like my weight was

625
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,440
holding me back from making friends or being the man

626
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:00,039
I wanted to be. And that is the day I

627
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:02,039
stepped in across the gym with my dad. I said,

628
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:05,160
I'm done with this. I'm done with feeling tired and

629
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,720
depressed and anxious and like my life doesn't have a purpose.

630
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,480
And so food was a main cause or a main

631
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:16,200
outlet for me to put my sadness into for three years.

632
00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:20,599
And that was just such a bad story because there

633
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,599
was no ending. Food will just tell you keep coming

634
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,799
back to me, keep coming back, keep coming back. You know,

635
00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:26,720
eat more. It's going to make you feel better, And

636
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,400
in fact, it just made me feel worse and worse

637
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,400
and worse. And actually I used to go home and

638
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,440
when I was really sad, i'd want to have a

639
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,559
plate of nachos with my dad. And at this time,

640
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:38,599
my parents were just getting divorced, and you know, it

641
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,960
was kind of I didn't feel like I had that

642
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:44,720
restriction in my diet from parenting. And at that time,

643
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:48,279
I think what's really crucial is that if you're a parent,

644
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,599
you got to be watching what your kids are eating too.

645
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,480
Because I didn't know any better. I didn't know how

646
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:54,720
fat these nachos were going to make me day after

647
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:56,519
day after day. And I didn't know that drinking only

648
00:30:56,599 --> 00:30:59,599
orange sodas instead of waters was bad. And I thought

649
00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:03,079
that eating candy orange slices was Oh, it's a it's

650
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:05,559
an orange slice. It's it's close to a.

651
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: Fruit, like as a Homer Simpson thing purpose fruit right,

652
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:11,480
and the purple satanic don't yeah fruit.

653
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm like, gosh like it. And I don't

654
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:17,200
blame my parents one bit, like I should have understood.

655
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,240
But I do think that parenting is important to educate

656
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,960
your kids on what food is and what food is not.

657
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:29,400
And uh, I think that I really only learned what

658
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,400
what protein should be and when you should incorporate carbs

659
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,400
and and when you should eat fats and how much

660
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,720
of each thing. I really only learned that going into

661
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:40,359
high school. Like why didn't I start having a basic

662
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,880
understanding of that in like first grade?

663
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:42,279
Speaker 3: Right?

664
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,359
Speaker 4: And and so food is a dangerous game that I

665
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,359
got caught into and and and really hurt me for

666
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,720
a long time. And I'll have a really great balance

667
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,039
with it. I know how many carbs I should be

668
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:54,880
eating and what kind of foods I should be eating

669
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,759
before my training. I know that I can utilize gummies

670
00:31:57,799 --> 00:32:01,079
and dried mangoes and these kind of quick release carbs

671
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:03,759
in my training because they help me perform better. And

672
00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:05,559
then I know what kind of foods I have to

673
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,519
be eating after my training and at nights to be

674
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,359
feeling good waking up and recovered for the next day.

675
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:15,359
And that understanding of food has helped me use it

676
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,680
as a liberty and not be so you know, I

677
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,519
don't feel like I'm like so freakish about my diet

678
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:26,319
like some athletes might be, where it's like every gram

679
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,920
of carb and every protein I track, But I'm rather

680
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:33,759
just very aware of how things are going to make

681
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:36,799
me feel, what it's going to do for my mood,

682
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,920
my training, and what it's going to make me feel

683
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,359
like waking up the next day.

684
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:42,079
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

685
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,039
Speaker 1: It's amazing thing sometimes when I'm talking with you, James

686
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,319
and getting coached by you. The other day, we were

687
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:51,480
talking about muscle ups and I was looking at your

688
00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:53,839
muscle ups versus the ones I'm trying to do, and

689
00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:57,000
I'm noticing. I said, oh man, your legs are so

690
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,480
so far out.

691
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:57,759
Speaker 2: How come?

692
00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:01,039
Speaker 1: And you said, Todd Todd DoD mastered the movement. And

693
00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:03,400
you didn't say it's in an any arrogant sense.

694
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: You didn't.

695
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:06,799
Speaker 1: You said, I've mastered the movement. And remember, I've done

696
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,839
this for thirteen years. And I stand there looking at that,

697
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,960
realizing you're twenty three and you've done CrossFit for four

698
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,039
times as long as I have thirteen years. And my

699
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:20,359
friend Zach Abraham's like this. Zach is the founder. He

700
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,440
and his wife founded Bulwart Capital Management together and he's

701
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,960
the chief investment officer. She is the chief operating officer.

702
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:29,720
Younger than me and so successful. Now, Zach's not as

703
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:32,720
young as James. I mean, he's probably twice as old

704
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,000
as James, but younger than me. And he also has

705
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:38,319
an energy. Zach doesn't need the alarm clock. He wakes

706
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,039
up at five point thirty to see what's going on

707
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:41,240
in the market because he loves it.

708
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: And you know what, Money's not even his motivator.

709
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,319
Speaker 1: You know what is making sure people have great retirements,

710
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,799
that people are comfortable and secure through retirement.

711
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:50,839
Speaker 2: And Zach is going back to the basics.

712
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,839
Speaker 1: With all the volatility in our country, He's doing a

713
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,960
free live webinarch to talk about going back to the

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probably gonna get myself in trouble with you now, but

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you got I'm not a prefer I'm not a fashout

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that you know the We aren't going to speak about

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the goal. I have, you know the goal, okay, but

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we're not gonna speak about it. Here, But I go

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once a week to a place called Embers, and I eat,

736
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and I eat everything.

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Speaker 2: I eat all the pizza.

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Speaker 1: But when I walk in there, I'm at a four thousand,

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maybe four thousand, five hundred calory deficit. I eat very

740
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carefully and I make sure that when I walk out

741
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of there, i'm walking in there it's all protein, some carbs.

742
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And I'll work out twice that day. So this is

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that day. As we're recording, I'll sit down and I'll

744
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go do that. But I'm not a professional athlete. But

745
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here's the thing I've noticed. I don't jones for it.

746
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It's done, I enjoyed it. I planned to heads, I

747
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coped to heads. And what I've noticed about food addicts

748
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is the first bite.

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Speaker 2: You know. This is my caution to people. If there's

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a quote food you.

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Speaker 1: Eat and it changes your body chemistry the moment you

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begin eating it, that.

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Speaker 2: Is a drug.

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Speaker 1: It's a drug for you. Bread is a drug for me.

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If I pick up a piece of bread, I will

756
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eat more of it. If I eat a oatmeal peanut

757
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:49,119
butter cookie, those are the worst cookies. They've got peanut butter,

758
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they've got oatmeal. They say, my mind changes and the

759
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more like, the more refined. Sure, it is like a

760
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piece of lemon ring pipe. I'm here to tell you.

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If I'm at a place for there was a piece

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of omen break pie and I eat one, I will

763
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steal the rest. I'm at a kid's birthday party and hey,

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Todd Rigoing, I just forgot something in the kitchen and

765
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I'm in there. I'm on the ground licking the plate,

766
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and I know there's more of this, and I'm in there.

767
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Like my friend's freezers out there, I know they've got that.

768
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They didn't just make one lemon rank pie. And if

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anything you consume does that to you, you are dealing

770
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with the drug. And it took me a while to

771
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figure that out. But once I did and understood that,

772
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there's also this thing if food is not your medicine,

773
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medicine will be your food. And a man, I've seen

774
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that with people my age. So when you said that

775
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you got to this point where you wanted to take

776
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your own life, did you communicate that to people? Did

777
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you internalize it? I mean, how did you get.

778
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Speaker 2: Out of that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's actually interesting. My rock bottom point was in

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sixth grade, and I used to be so nervous about

781
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talking about this because I didn't want to come off

782
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in the wrong way. But my rock bottom point was

783
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sixth grade. I was I was getting bullied heavily. I

784
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didn't have any friends like I was talking about, and

785
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I was so sad that I drew a picture of

786
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me hurting my bullies and I actually left it in

787
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the trash in the classroom. Yeah, and obviously the teachers

788
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had to follow up on that. They found it, and

789
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they took it as a threat, and obviously I would.

790
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I was a kid. I loved everyone. I never wanted

791
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to hurt anyone. I just wanted friends and peace and love.

792
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And my rock bottom was when the officers showed up

793
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to the school saying, are you going to do something

794
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to these kids? And I was like, oh my gosh, no,

795
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Like I am just so sad and sick and tired

796
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of being bullied and no one doing anything about it,

797
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and feeling just so lost. And you know, the school

798
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does a terrible job of you know, identifying, you know,

799
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these kids that are being mean to other kids, and

800
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it's such a prevalent thing that goes on more and more,

801
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and especially middle school and early high school stages when

802
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there's so much crucial development going on.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: I just I just felt like no one was going

805
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to help me. So I was like, man, I I

806
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expressed my feelings on this piece of paper, which actually

807
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meant nothing because I wanted to never ever hurt these kids.

808
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But yeah, that was my turning point of realizing, like, man, like,

809
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you know, you have to you have to take some

810
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action into your own hands, lose some weight. And these

811
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kids that aren't being your friends aren't people you want

812
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to be friends with anyway. Yeah, these kids that are

813
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,440
bullying you are are not kids that you're going to

814
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go the distance with anyway. And I was too immature

815
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to realize that at the time. But yeah, it was

816
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a really hard time in my life and actually a

817
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really vulnerable topic because I don't want people to look

818
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at me as like you want to hurt people. No,

819
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I would have never ever hurt anyone, but I was

820
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so hurt inside I had no way to express it.

821
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And I believe there's so many kids battling with this

822
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these days that don't express it, So like, how do

823
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we how do we get them to see, like there's

824
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a light at the end of the tunnel, there is

825
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you know these bullies, these actually, these are the guys

826
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that are actually suffering. These are the people that are actually,

827
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you know, going through it more than you think. They

828
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don't have these perfect lives just because they're telling you their.

829
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Speaker 2: Person opposite that, and so they're going to hurt because

830
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they hurt. That's totalle at the trite phrase.

831
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Speaker 1: I got that point in my mid twenties. And I've

832
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told the story before in the cast. I won't belavor it,

833
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but I was so screwed up and I even got

834
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on prozac. And this is when I was at my

835
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,480
heaviest and least healthy, and I actually called my mom

836
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and told her I was going to do it. Wow,

837
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And I expected to be able to make the case

838
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to my mom, to lay it out logically, and that

839
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:29,599
my mom. I actually expected my mom to listen to

840
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that and go, you know, I'd like to argue with you,

841
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:33,239
but yeah, you're right.

842
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: You should do it.

843
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: That's that's your own life.

844
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

845
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: I thought I had such a clear thinking that my

846
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:39,760
own mom would go, yeah, you're right.

847
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I hate that, but gosh, and she didn't. Obviously.

848
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,440
She actually had my father and another family member fly

849
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:47,880
down and.

850
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: They just showed up at the workplace. I got off

851
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000
the air, did the radio show in the morning show,

852
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:57,280
and the a front Descalady terrible phrase, what was her

853
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,119
name was, Kay? Kay called me and said, hey, you've

854
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:00,559
got some people out to see you. Walk out, and

855
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:03,159
there's my dad and this other family member and they

856
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:05,159
came down to make sure I didn't do it, and

857
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:07,199
I cast my dad hated flying. How long are you

858
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,639
here until you're until you're not going to kill yourself?

859
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: Right? So I work with young men, and.

860
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: I know you you actually one of your friends is

861
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:19,840
he's starting a ministry with young men. James from the

862
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,360
gym is also doing that, and I want to give

863
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,199
you some hope. Fourteen and fifteen year old boys regularly

864
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,159
come to me and regularly say, hey, I'm thinking about

865
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:34,960
taking my life now. That doesn't sound hopeful, but you

866
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,320
know what happens when you hear them and you look

867
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,920
at them and go, man, man, that's heavy, and I

868
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,159
feel worried for you, and I love you, and I

869
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:48,719
don't want you to do that because I love you

870
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,760
so much, and more so, Jesus loves you, and it

871
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,360
would so hurt Jesus. And there's a generation of young

872
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,440
men who are learning to be vulnerable with each other.

873
00:40:56,519 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: James.

874
00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: And I've seen it in groups where there's I used

875
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,880
to work in government schools. I can see the kids

876
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,320
who are targets for bullies. You can too, And I'm

877
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,280
watching them, some of these big football player kids, you know,

878
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,599
they've got the D one offers and all that stuff.

879
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:16,519
I'm watching them now reach out and adopt some of

880
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:17,039
those kids.

881
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:17,639
Speaker 2: Wow.

882
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: And I saw this great thing. We were at a

883
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,119
social event at the church and so there's some people,

884
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:30,119
some boys we didn't know who came in and their

885
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:33,639
football player wrestler types North Idaho kind of I get

886
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:36,679
to say redneck because I genetically test seventy nine point

887
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:37,760
eight seven percent redneck.

888
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,599
Speaker 2: And one of the.

889
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:45,519
Speaker 1: Guys said, who is this jerk about this? This kid

890
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:49,159
is a bully target And one of the biggest, strongest,

891
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:52,280
toughest kids stepped up, put his arm around that kid

892
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,719
and said, this is my boy. He's not a jerk,

893
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:56,599
this is my boy.

894
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm seeing this change in these generations. James.

895
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: I know you'll get this because you're a guy with

896
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:06,400
great compassion for people who cannot move like you do.

897
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:09,199
And I've never seen you judge a human being. In fact,

898
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:13,159
we've had these discussions that you like me, can't stand

899
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:16,360
it when you're in a gym environment and there's someone

900
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,440
who thinks they're in shape and they're making fun of

901
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:20,840
somebody who's just getting back into the gym. That det

902
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:25,079
hurts me because hey, they're there. So you get this

903
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:28,599
as well. My friend's Alan, he's fourteen. He's been through

904
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:33,400
eighteen operations and the last operation was fusing his vertebrun

905
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,599
his upper neck so that he could walk better. And

906
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:42,599
Alan is also effectively nonverbal thrautism, and he's about to

907
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:46,920
say Goodbyeer's dad, his father John, who runs Alan Soap,

908
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,880
so that Alan has a place to work, his son

909
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,320
Ian has a place to work. We've been employing other

910
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people who have similar challenges. That's the purpose of this

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914
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unique fragrances. In fact, there's some new ones you could

915
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check out. Alan is now aware that his dad is

916
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,159
going to go to the Lord, and we've made it

917
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:13,760
our mission here on the program before John goes to

918
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,239
the lord and hands the business over to his wife

919
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,199
to give his wife the best possible chance at success

920
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,400
so that Alan's continues to function and employ people like

921
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,119
alan Ian.

922
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: So here's our ask.

923
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Speaker 1: Go purchase these sample packs of soap, find the fragrances

924
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you like and compare to the soap you used today.

925
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And the soap use today probably comes from a big

926
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company that doesn't care about your values. That's not the

927
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case that Alan's. All lives do matter there and they

928
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931
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932
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933
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I want to touch on one thing real quick. You

934
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:57,760
are not saying and I know you're not, because there's

935
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,559
a lot of people who have carry a lot of

936
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:00,440
extra weight.

937
00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 2: My dad did. My dad was a beast till the

938
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,400
day died. You were not saying that bodyweight is your worth.

939
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 4: No bodyweight's not your worth. In fact, nothing can be

940
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,840
your worth. Besides your faith in Jesus Christ. I think

941
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,480
that I always got cut up with my worth was

942
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,719
how good I could do at the Cross of Games.

943
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,960
I had that identity until I got baptized and I

944
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,239
placed my faith in Jesus.

945
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:26,159
Speaker 1: Wait, so wait, your worth was tied up in Oh,

946
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:28,880
I'm only worthwhile if I win the CrossFit Games. Then

947
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,440
you get baptized, then you win the CrossFit Games.

948
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 4: Correct. I'd had a lesson for you, very big lesson.

949
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,159
And actually the first year I went to the Cross

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of Games was the year I got horribly sick. I

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tore four out of the ten pads of my fingers

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off on a rope climb literally in like the third

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or fourth event of the competition. I have a one

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oh three fever going into day two, and I'm just like, well,

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this could happen every year, and I could always be

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disappointed and always think I'm worth nothing because this could

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happen every year. And that was It was such a

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great lesson. Even the year before that, I missed the

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Games by one point. Going into the final event of

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my qualifier, I was ahead of the sixth place by

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eighty one points. I watched this, yes, and I was

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so just excited about the fact like I'd finally made it.

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I finally made it in life. That was my definition

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of success in life. Making the Cross of Games in

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twenty twenty two, it would have been my first year

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as a as an individual. I'd made it as a

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team before, but making it as a man was a

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completely different ballgame. You'd made a career out of it

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at that point, and you are a rising star if

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you make the Cross of Games. And you know I

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was going to this final event just like, oh, it's

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yours to lose now, and a guy makes up eighty

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two points on me, missed it by one point. Remember that,

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How does that happen in the history of crosser? That

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is the biggest comeback in history of any competition to

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qualify for Across a Games. Eighty two points it's made up.

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He needed to make up eighty one. And it was

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actually a pretty divine thing in every aspect because the

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guy who ended up beating me his wife had cancer

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and they needed this to help their family and the funding,

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and what I needed was to miss the Cross of

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Games to understand I can't place my worth in this.

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So it was it was actually pretty like a very

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spiritual thing because obviously for weeks on weeks after that,

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I didn't realize like like that was God working in

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my life. Obviously I couldn't see what the whole bigger

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picture plan was. And you know, but now I look

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back at it, I'm like, wow, like you knew what

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you're doing, God, and you always do.

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Speaker 2: Praise God. Praise God for that. I'm wearing some James

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Spring merchandise. So the back of the sure.

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Speaker 4: It's a righteous man falls seven times, yet he rise again,

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Proverbs twenty four to sixteens. It's my favorite verse. There

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it is again.

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Speaker 1: And James's social media handles are here at the show notes.

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Give people the best place to follow you to support

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a godly man in this pursuit, maybe to get some

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line fitness coaching from you, which I would encourage people

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who want to be serious about fitness to do that.

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I didn't know online fitness and coaching could be what

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it is. And I do get the blessing of being

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in the gym with James sometimes, man, but where do

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people follow you?

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Speaker 2: The best place to do that? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: For sure, Thanks Todd for trusting me with your fitness.

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I don't take it lightly I've had the pleasure of

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being able to coach Todd now for the past few months,

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and man, he's a workhorse. He wants to get it

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done and very easy to work with. He's one of

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my favorite people to work with.

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Speaker 2: You notice he didn't stayd im good at it.

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Speaker 4: No, he's improving a lot. These are things you have

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that are very strong and obviously CrossFit is a multifaceted

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sport and there's a lot to get better at. But

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he's doing an amazing job. If you want to follow

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me on Instagram, it's at spraguer, which is my last

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name with four rs s p R A g U

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E R r R. And then same with my YouTube channel.

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I've been posting a lot there. I post weekly workout content.

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I post competition vlogs, I post lifestyle vlogs. I post

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training tips, anything you guys want to know about the

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gym or a healthy lifestyle. I try and include it

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on that channel. More of that long form content, stuff

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like this podcast, and just me being raw authentic with people,

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because I don't think that influencers per se should just

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be posting all the things that make them look glamorous

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and good. I like to post the real, raw, authentic stuff,

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just like you do on this podcast, and make sure

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people see, like, you know, the hardships of life and

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here's how I overcome them. And even I as a

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guy who feels like I have everything in the world

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and every blessing in the world, there's still gonna be

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hard things about life. So I want to explain to people,

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you know, how I work through these things with a

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godly perspective. And yeah, Todd, it has just been amazing

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getting to grow and over the past ten eleven years

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doing this sport, just seeing like where it's gone. I'll

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tell you it's it's far more than I could ever

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imagine when I walked in the cross the gym for

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my first time. And for anyone that wants to start

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something hard and has a crazy goal, go after it,

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like don't let the world tell you can't or you

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won't because you or this certain way and this is

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how you were born. I was told by multiple family

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members that Spriggs just can't have abs, and I was

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and I was just like I believe that, yeah for

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so long, like oh, you know, we're just bigger frames

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and that was just like an excuse and I'm like

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man like I believe that the world limited me to

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what I could do, and I'm so glad that I

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got past that and said, you know, if I put

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my mind to this, I think that's not true. I

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think I can win the Cross of Games, even though

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at a six foot three body build, you know that

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is not the advantageous build to have as a cross

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an athlete. Actually, the guys who have won before me

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are all between five eight and five eleven. Yeah, and

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this year actually another big guy one, which was incredible.

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Speaker 2: That's a story.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I was always like confined by what was

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possible based on what people did before, and I'm like

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break the impossible, like like go be, go be that

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person who says, no, I'm not confined by that. And

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so I always encourage people to, you know, just go

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chase their dream wholeheartedly and not be stopped by what

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the world.

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Speaker 2: Has to say.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're defined by Christ, not by the world. James Sprague,

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my friend, my coach. God bless you, Thank you for

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blessing you.

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Speaker 4: Brother.

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Speaker 2: This is the Todd Hermitshell.

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Speaker 1: Please go be well, be strong, be kind, make a

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decision to follow Christ, and hope that you, like me,

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get to Go hang out with your beloved wife, family members, etc.