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Speaker 1: Kevin Reynolds of the Salt Lake Tribune. Kevin, how the

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heck are you?

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Speaker 2: Man? Thanks for joining us?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing? Fantastic man?

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you had a wonderful weekend and got a little

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R and R N. I know it's probably busy for

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you putting out pumping out content. It's twenty four seven,

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three sixty five. For all the rioters out there is

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sports never sleeps. What have you produced for us at

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the Solid Tribune recently?

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Speaker 2: Brother?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? BYUI is just I think we've been writing a

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lot about the transfer portal cycle and what it kind

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of means and what it signals. The BYU retained pretty

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much everybody that was significant to this team from twenty

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twenty five and then goes and ads, you know, arguably

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the best linebacker in the transfer portal cycle. What that

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means and what that says for Kilani's staff and the

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resources that they have, but also on this chase that

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who also made you know, a lot of strides in

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the transfer portal, and then obviously uh looking at at

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Speaker 1: How How crazy is it, uh that that b yu's

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retained pretty much all of their key contributors now, Shape,

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Brian Strather, Max Alford both are were key contributors to

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ACL reconstructions like knee injuries or surgery. They're both in

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the portal. They're uh, they they may both end up

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committed yet, but we do know that Max Alfred is

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heading to Michigan. Tadan Beasley I think ended up at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it makes me think of the story back

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from twenty to twenty two. That summer, the summer before

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BYU went to the Big twelve Kilani and the staff

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had Jackson Bowers, Walker Lions, Hunter Clegg and a couple

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of other four star guys on campus for pretty much

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were four star guys out of that weekend and not

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the reigning Big twelve offensive player of the Year, come

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back to BYU. And I think it's for two reasons. One,

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for national title, like they definitely lost the key playmakers.

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players coming in when guys are injured? Like do you

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Speaker 2: Brought to you by orthropros of Utah orthropro of.

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Speaker 1: Utah dot Com. College Football Championship game is tonight, Indiana

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versus Miami. Both of these teams, you could say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is a bit of culture versus.

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Speaker 1: Cash in the free market that they're living in. Not

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the Athletic, you know, it just felt like to me,

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Carson Becks or whoever. It is the biggest name in

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don't I don't know if Indiana you can just say, oh,

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they didn't have any resources. I think they did, but

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I think using the resource as well, and maybe not

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having the biggest war chest, but at the same time,

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going after guys that you that you are very certain

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what they can do and how they fit into in

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a particular system, which it seems like Indiana is very

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good at.

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Speaker 1: Indiana's a unique team. Who do you think Winsor's game?

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I know Indiana's a favorite. I think last time we

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checked through was about eight and a half. I don't

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know if the spreads changed at all. But do you

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think that Indiana comes away victorious versus Miami the Hurricanes tonight?

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Speaker 3: I do? I mean, I think Indiana's destroy every single

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team that they've gone up against. I thought Oregon was

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going to be much harder of a challenge beating a

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team twice particular team as good as Oregon. You know,

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how many How many times do you see that not

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only do they win, you know, they the game is

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over by halftime or maybe even the first quarter. So

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to say, like just from a football, you know, college

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football perspective and watching college football, even if I don't

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know the ins and outs of Indiana's program, to me,

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it looks like it's one of the most well coached teams.

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they just don't make mistakes, and I think Miami makes

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a lot of them. And so we'll see, we'll see tonight.

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But I just don't think Miami can get away with

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some of the mistakes they've made and have been making.

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a long time ago, but look at the mistakes that

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cost them the SMU game, in the Louisville game. And

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we've seen what Indiana does when teams make even just

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with little the slightest errors, and those become you know,

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twenty point leads very clickly for Indiana.

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Speaker 1: We're seeing some of the preseason way too early, preseason

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polls drop on three just put out theirs. They put

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Bleay at number thirteen heading into twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's too high, too low, or just

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about right?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that's about right. Like I don't

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think I put them in the top twelve yet, you know,

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I don't think they're a lock playoff team, just because

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also I don't know how many teams the Big twelve

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gets in, and I don't think BYU is at least

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on PAP for the Big the best team in the

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Big twelve right now, I'd still say that's probably Texas Tech,

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particularly with how well they've done in the transfer portal

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this cycle and adding to what they already had. So

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and they're going to upgrade the quarterback position, which was

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arguably probably their weakest link this year I thought was

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the quarterback spot, and definitely kind of exposed that I

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thought in the playoffs too, so soortly we'll be an

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upgrade there and so because of that, I think thirteen

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is about right, just kind of on the outside looking in.

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And the question I have is there's a bunch of retention.

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I don't think you're going to have too many questions

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out l J. Martin or you know, a lot of

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the other questions that we had last year at the

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quarterback spot. There Bachmeyer kungback. But what does this defense

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look like under Kelly Papanga versus J Hill? Is it similar?

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Does Kelly Popinga get you know, as much pressure on

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the quarterback as J Hill got this last year finally

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kind of breaking through the stacks? What does that look like?

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Because I thought Jay Hill, I thought he did a

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lot of things well. I thought he was a very

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good play caller. And I'll I'll be interested to see

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what Kelly pa does this year.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Reynolds Sally Tribune here on your Utah ESPN Radio

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network for a Cougar Beat, brought to you by Orthroproso

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Utah arthroposovuta dot com. If you look at the acquisitions

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that BWAU football has picked up via the portal, there's

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only nine of them.

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Speaker 2: They're like one of.

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Speaker 1: Like five teams with less than ten. And many of

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these teams are, you know, high level programs, Georgia, I

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think US Seas in that mix, Notre Dame. Very few

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teams have I have stayed under that ten ten player

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roster for the transfer portal. Two of them, though, are

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tight ends. We've seen three offensive lineman. You've seen one

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or two strategic linebacker additions. When you look at the

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nine players that b YU has acquired via the portal,

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what stands out to you with their strategy.

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Speaker 3: I think it's what you said. I mean, this was

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a clearly the top priority. Coming off of the eleven

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win year or twelve years or twelve a year and

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winning twenty three games in the last two years, the

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top priority was definitely a retention and keeping the guys

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who won all those games in the building and obviously

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keeping Bear Bachmeyer in the building to grow and develop into.

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You know, we'll see what he can become. But you know,

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the thing that stands out to me though, is Walker

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Lion because I think you needed to find a replacement

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for Carson Ryan and Carson Ryan I don't think. I

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don't know if he was the best player on Blay's offense.

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I think that was probably LJ and then probably Bear.

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But at the same time, I don't know who's more

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important than Carson Ryan because we've seen this offense when

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they have a pass catching tight end and what that

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kind of does, and how much Bear seems to really

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rely on Carson Ryan. I think He's probably made the

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argument that Carson Ryan was bear Bachmeyer's favorite target this

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year and when things got tough, he went to him.

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the first three years BYU, since Isaac RETX, have they

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really had this reliable tight end pass catching option and

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this safety valve. I don't think they had that for

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Jake rest Left. I don't think they had that all

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the time for Keyton Slowvis or the end of Jaron

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Hall after Isaac Gretch got hurt. I mean, look at

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twenty twenty three or twenty twenty four where they're putting,

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you know, moving Keanu Hill to tight end and kind

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of trying to mix a match, and they really just

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didn't have a pass catching option. So I think Walker

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lines having him kind of in theory Sun kind of

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seamlessly as a as a pass catching guy who can

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take that take on that role, I think does a

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lot to open up the offense. And then the other

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part I still think, well, we don't necessarily have an

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answer on but I do think you're probably going to

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need a wide receiver to emerge who's a deep threat

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or at least a playmaker. I think they really missed

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that this year with that Phila Marian and Darius Laser.

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little bit. Parker Kingston's good, but he's not. That's not

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necessarily his strengthness or at least what Darius and Kwan did.

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So I'm interested to see, you know, who that person emerges,

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because I thought that was the thing missing in this

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offense a little bit. And we'll see.

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Speaker 1: With all of the dominoes that have fallen here in

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the state of Utah, Sing Kyle Uh kind of ushered out,

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and you know in in the head coach and wedding,

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Morgan Scalley taken over, Jay Hill and and general to

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be Yu. That's part of the domino effect. You know

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who's who's been more impacted by these these changes? Would

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you say Utah or BYU?

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Speaker 3: Thus far, I think it's Utah. I definitely think it's U. Tih.

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I mean, they lose essentially their entire offensive staff and

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they have to bring in a new offensive coordinator and

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hire a new defensive coordinator because Scaley gets elevated, and

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you know, I think, don't get me wrong, I think

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j Hill leaving BYU is a huge question mark and

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something that definitely needs to be answered because he just

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did so much. I mean, obviously the associate head coach,

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but he was a very good recruiter. He was instrumental

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in a lot of the recruiting momentum. I thought of

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getting guys like you know, stars in this defense, Solidus

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Otsula and other players to flip from Utah to BYU,

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and I think that was very important before they were

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winning games, before they were truly winning in the Big twelve,

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to turn the tide in recruiting, or at least have

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BYU punching in the same weight classes U, which they

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they weren't for so long in that decade of independence.

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I think Jay and the whole staff, but definitely Jay

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deserves a lot of credit, and the way those guys

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talk about it definitely deserves credit. So I'm not trying

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to downplay j Hill leaving. I think it's a big, big,

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big deal. But at the same time, when you look

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at the totality of it, I think you have to

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say Utah was was the more effected team. And not

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only that, Utah lost players, not just coaches, They lost

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players to Michigan Smithsoden, jj B Tannon. You can go

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down the list of guys who were either key playmakers

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or you know, guys who had a lot of potential

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are John to La. You can kind of go through

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the list and b why you really didn't other than

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Max Alford. So right now, I'd say Utah is the

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more effective group.

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Speaker 1: What let me ask you this. We were debating this

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on Friday. We were discussing Mark Harlan, some of his actions,

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some of the h less popular actions, maybe that he's

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he's engaged in. For Utah fans, you know, how are

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they feeling about Mark Harlan as their ad You're seeing

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kind of the repercussions.

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Speaker 2: Are they bought in? Are they sold on Mark Harland?

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Do you think?

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Speaker 1: I know you're not covering them on the daily on

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the bead, et cetera, But you know you're hearing things,

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You're seeing things. Are they bought into the head coach

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in waiting? Are they bought into, you know, Mark Harland

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being their fearless leader for the years to come.

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Speaker 3: You know, I can't speak for Utah fans. I don't

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know exactly what the feeling is, but just my overall

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take on the whole situation, I'd say, is that Morgan

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Scalley I think is a very very smart coach. I

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think he's been proven to be a very good defensive coordinator,

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but he has not been a head coach yet, so

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there is already that question mark. And then the other

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part is how often do coach in waiting really work?

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And I'm not saying Morgan Scalley won't be a good coach.

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I think he probably will be a good coach. But

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at the same time, like the situation he is walking

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into is a lot harder because of kind of the

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structure around it, and now Kyle's gone and he's taking

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coordinators is a much more difficult situation than what was

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supposed to be the case for Morgan Scalley. Like, I

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don't think he thought whenever he took over that he

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was going to have to overhaul an offense and make sure,

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you know, Kevin mcgiven is operating the same as Jason Deck.

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And I don't think he anticipated losing as many, you know,

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key contributors as he did to Michigan, And I think

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part of it was because part of the reason why

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it happened, there's a I don't think anyone could have

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foreseen what has happened to Michigan and that the job

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would be open and that Kyle would get the job.

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He wasn't the first choice, he wasn't the second choice.

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You know, probably wasn't even the third choice for this job.

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So a lot had to happen. I don't know if

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anybody could have foreseen that, but it is a very

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difficult situation that I think you put a coach in

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waiting into. I think it just makes it difficult, and

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it did get weird, and I think we were talking

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to some of you tough fans last week at the

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bau Utah game for this, and I think there are

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definitely mixed feelings, and you can talk about how the

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way those have come across, like should you be attacking

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Kyle Whittingham's family. No, obviously not. But at the same time,

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I do think there's mixed feelings on the direction of

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the program right now, and I do think there needs

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to be at least some calming stability, and maybe that

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is Morgan, But it is a very difficult job, a

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way more difficult situation than anybody could have anticipated a

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first time head coach walking into.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to apply on this if you don't

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want to. But what's Mark Carlin's lowest moment is it

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to give me a break tweet and subsequent role in

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his event the eventual disintegration of the PAC twelve. How

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about these they stole it from us going to the

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press conference post game, but.

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Speaker 2: The whole war.

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Speaker 1: You can combine walking on to the field and getting

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penalized in that moment, purportedly pushing out Kyle Whittingham for

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the head coach in waiting or number five calling out

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former Sinnes and commits on Twitter. Uh, you know, in

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a in a in a in a bit of a

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stupor that didn't really make any sense on Twitter before

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deleting it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, I have an opinion on that,

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but it it Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you erase tweets though, like you know, you know

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where what is it there? There probably had to be

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some criticism from the admin saying, hey, you should probably

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remove that, or maybe his agent did.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I was very, very surprised by

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that tweet. I'll say I was equally surprised about the

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press conference after the buy Utah game, But yeah, I was.

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I guess I'll just go with I was I've never

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seen an ad do that. I've never seen that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, are we are we getting desensitized to

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some of the actions of Mark Harlin because we've never

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seen him before. We are because or because from now

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we're starting to see these never seen before, you know

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what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Are we desensitized to it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So I really don't know, but it has been

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since I've been here. It's been quite a few moments

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where I was like, Wow, did not see that coming,

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Kevin Renolds.

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Speaker 1: Best way to support you what you do, how you

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do it, and anything you want to tease us with

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what content you're going to be putting out there at

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the at the trib.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah, I mean we've got some more bye stuff

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coming up for sure, But yeah, that's way the support is.

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Go to sl trip dot com and we have a

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bunch of stories on all the stuff we're talking about

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by U And obviously there's been a good number of

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reporting from a lot of people at our newspaper from

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on Kyle Whittingham, Morgan Scully and what comes next for

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that program too.

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Speaker 1: So Kevin Reynolds, Ladies, jem I always love talk in

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ball with you. I love talking the news and nodes.

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Thanks for hopping off for a cougar be keV.

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