WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:13.279 Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the 2 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:16.920 Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. His name 3 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:24.079 is Tim Duckworth. It is Tuesday, December sixteenth, right in 4 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:28.920 the thick of it for all the heavy hitting poker 5 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:31.160 that is going on, not only in Las Vegas but 6 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:32.840 around the world. Tim and I are of course in 7 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:38.399 Las Vegas and it's it's jam freaking packed here. But 8 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:42.159 we're gonna lead off with ap Paradise because as far 9 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:45.240 as I'm concerned, that's the leading story with everything that's 10 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:47.840 going on right now. There's a lot of dobysipy news 11 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:52.039 that dropped this week today. You know, we got dobasip 12 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:56.039 Paradise hitting their guarantee prize pulls in. They're on to 13 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:58.119 day three in the supermin event. All that sort of 14 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:01.399 stuff we got was b Europe news that came out. 15 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:04.680 We have WSIP Player of the Year news that came out. 16 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:07.680 So we're gonna hit on all of that stuff and 17 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:11.560 then we're gonna get into the WPT World Championship. We 18 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:14.879 got to talk some community cards, which I actually have 19 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:18.079 no idea what we're talking in regards to community cards, 20 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:20.760 but you know what Tim said, We're talking community cards, 21 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:24.159 and then we got a family pop because why not, right, 22 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:30.280 why freaking not. 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All right, first news item of the day, 79 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:50.560 we got the super Duper super Duper super Duper main 80 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:54.040 event down in the Bahamas. Tim is just shaking his 81 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:57.079 head because he thinks I'm an idiot, which I am. Yes, 82 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.439 the w SIP Paradise, this super main event. It is 83 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:07.160 a PGT qualifying event. It attracted two thousand, eight hundred 84 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:11.519 and ninety one entries twenty six thousand dollars buying, so 85 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:16.160 twenty five thousand plus one thousand. It had a sixty 86 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:20.120 million dollar guarantee. There was a lot of talk going 87 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:24.360 in on whether they would hit the guarantee. A lot 88 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:27.560 of people for them, it wasn't the question of whether 89 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:29.199 or not they would hit the guarantee. It was more 90 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:33.279 question of how short would they come, because sixty million 91 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:38.319 dollars is a lot of goddamn money. But they hit it, 92 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:42.839 and they hit it pretty comfortably. More than seventy two 93 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:47.319 million dollars in the prize pool. This is the biggest 94 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:52.519 prize pool in poker history outside of the WSP Main Event. 95 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:54.560 Of course, the WSP Main Event tops all the charts. 96 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.000 And then I think I saw I want to say, 97 00:05:57.079 --> 00:05:59.040 friend of the podcast, Jeff Platt, I think I saw 98 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:02.079 a video with him saying that this is the eighth 99 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:06.120 largest event ever in terms of price pool, in the 100 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:09.879 history of the game. So really big stuff coming out 101 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:14.079 of the Bahamas. I guess the first question or discussion 102 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.079 here is I'll throw it to you with this is 103 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:20.000 Are we surprised? Are you surprised that it it hits 104 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:23.600 I guess both the guarantee and then also this big 105 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:25.959 of a price bowl ending up over seventy million. 106 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:28.720 Yeah, I mean there's obviously a lot of chatter about 107 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:32.920 it overlaying. I was never really worried about it overlaying. 108 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.199 I always thought they would sneak in make it just 109 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:38.920 kind of like they did last year with the fifty 110 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.680 million guarantee. But for it to just hit it and 111 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:47.680 keep going and hit seventy two million is pretty pretty astronomical, 112 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:51.360 very surprising that they would get that many. And you know, 113 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:55.439 you're following the action, you know, from you know, from 114 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:58.399 your computer, from your phone, and you know the way 115 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:01.040 that action was playing out on social media with the 116 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:04.279 you know, Daniel mcgrond obviously calling it out the most 117 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:07.279 on in the's vlogs with people in for ten bull, 118 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:09.079 it's twelve bull, it's fourteen bull, It's all these kind 119 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.000 of crazy numbers. You just saw that. Yeah, look, this 120 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:15.000 is going to get pretty messy, pretty crazy for these people. 121 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:19.959 And yeah, they once they broke through, they just couldn't stop. 122 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:25.360 Yeah, it is very very polarizing around the poker community. 123 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:26.920 You know, you pointed out some of the stuff on 124 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:29.439 social media, you know, just talking with a lot of 125 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:32.199 people at the various tables that I've been playing at 126 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:36.920 this month, it's the same sort of chatter where you know, 127 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:41.360 some people think it's good and awesome, other people think 128 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:45.680 it's just way too wild and crazy and unsustainable, you know. 129 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.480 I mean, we've heard numbers of people being in ten, twelve, 130 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:57.399 fifteen bullets, as you said, and it's quite insane to 131 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:00.519 think of it that way. I don't think I'm surprise 132 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:03.839 that they hit the guarantee. I think I aligned with 133 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:05.959 you in the fact that you know, this probably would 134 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:07.879 have come in if I were to guess, I would 135 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:10.279 have said between sixty and sixty five that would have 136 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:14.879 been audience. But you know, given the fact that I 137 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:17.120 thought the day one a number was really really good. 138 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.160 I think there was like twelve hundred or something entries 139 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:23.519 in there. And also honestly, with the way that they 140 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:27.560 kind of finagled this this schedule, which is a very 141 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.920 interesting case study. You know, this is the first time 142 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:36.159 that I've seen a tournament do in opening flight structure 143 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:39.360 like this. And for those that don't know what they 144 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:43.080 did in the Bahamas is they had four starting flights, 145 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:47.120 but they played the first two, then they played. Then 146 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:50.639 everyone that survived those first two flights played their Day two, 147 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.440 which made it into the money. So and then there 148 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:56.559 was two more starting flights, and then those two starting 149 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.360 flights had their own Day two, and then everyone later 150 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:01.759 on combined for Day three. So if you bagged Day 151 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:04.000 one A and then you got a day off and 152 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:07.200 then you played Day one or Day two A, you 153 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:09.080 bag that, then you would have two days or three 154 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:10.559 days off then you would come back. So it's kind 155 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:12.320 of like a nice break in there. It could also 156 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:15.559 allowed you to cash the event twice, which is an 157 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:19.639 interesting little twist and a little bit weird. You know, 158 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:23.720 like you could cash day you know, two A because 159 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:25.679 they made the money on the day twos. Then if 160 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:27.840 you busted after you made the money, you could obviously 161 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:31.440 then fire multiple bullets afterwards. So there was that, But 162 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:33.559 it's also like, you know, let's say you put a 163 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:35.399 bunch of bullets in or whatever. Even if you put 164 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:37.200 one bullet in, you get to day two, you kind 165 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:40.919 of think, oh, in a normal schedule that we commonly 166 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:44.320 see is that, well, okay, I made it past registration. 167 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:46.840 I made it to day two, like I'm I'm going 168 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:48.919 forward like this is it? But not in this tournament. 169 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:52.000 You know, you could play that day too, you could 170 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.200 bust and then you could hop back in you know, 171 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:59.120 later on. So obviously the structure is more shallow in 172 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:02.399 the day two stage. So the whole thing kind of 173 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:05.440 generated a lot of re entries overall. 174 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:08.879 You also have to mention the you know, like you said, 175 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:12.759 you cash on day two one hundred In total the 176 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:14.480 people in the money on day two A was two 177 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:17.240 hundred and thirty three. One hundred and twenty five of 178 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:21.440 those cashed and were eliminated. Obviously, the men cash is 179 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:23.879 two x the buy and it's fifty thousand dollars. You 180 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:27.559 also have the promotions where if you had cash in 181 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:30.080 the main event, you would get an extra twenty five k. 182 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:33.399 So this technically probably a decent amount of people that 183 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.799 cash and were eliminated that you know, essentially won three buyants, right, 184 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:40.159 they get the fifty k, plus they get the twenty 185 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:42.759 five So you know, we would have to find those 186 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:46.080 numbers somehow, but I would say a good chunk at 187 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:49.559 the one twenty five probably jumped in, you know, one 188 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:52.080 c or one D or even on day two B 189 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:55.559 and that's what helps push that number up with that 190 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:59.639 sixty million. Obviously, this concept is very new to poker 191 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:03.840 in gen Or obviously wasn't part of Lasius supermin So 192 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.759 that obviously gives them, you know, a bit more wiggle 193 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:09.559 room to up that guarantee to the sixty and then, 194 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.639 you know, knowing this concept, we might as well say, 195 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:16.279 now we probably see the guarantee even move up next 196 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:16.960 year slightly. 197 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:20.840 Yeah. I mean, it's also something where I'm curious if 198 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:28.279 we see one this schedule concept start to take place 199 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:32.120 in other WSP events, most specifically during the summer. Not 200 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:34.200 that they would ever do this, I don't think for 201 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:36.600 the WSP main event, because that would entail making the 202 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:39.519 WSP main events a re entry, which I don't think 203 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:42.320 that they'll ever do. But do you start to see 204 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.960 it for you know, I don't know the Colossus or 205 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:47.960 the Milli Maker or the Monsters, you know, anything like that, right, 206 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:49.120 I think. 207 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:50.759 We already see it in those events in a way, 208 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:53.519 like the Mystery Millions and the Colossus, he played to 209 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:56.000 the money you cash. Then they play a little deeper, 210 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:58.919 so like in the Colossus where there's four flights, you 211 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.759 can cash four times. You know, it's not the same 212 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:04.399 version of this where you know, we know what the 213 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:06.519 classics is. It's a little bit of a crap shoot. 214 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.440 It's quick, it's fast, it's for you know, the U 215 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:12.320 and me's of the world. While this obviously a twenty 216 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:14.279 five K, you can't really play to the money on 217 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:16.720 day one in a twenty five K, So I think 218 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:17.840 this concept is very. 219 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.399 Have you seen this structure is pretty fast? Yeah? Sure, 220 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.360 but I mean they could have honestly played to the 221 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:25.799 money in the tournament. Why not? 222 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:28.679 I think this is perfect for this event, and this 223 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:32.720 event only twenty five K Superman, you know, hey, why 224 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:35.559 not out of day two C as well? Why you're 225 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:39.480 at it? You know, like or you know what, maybe 226 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.679 a better option is three day ones than the two 227 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:46.120 A than three day ones, you know, then the two 228 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.240 than the two B, and you could actually run that 229 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:53.159 one D right on day two A. 230 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:57.240 I got a crazy idea, what if you did the 231 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:01.200 first three starting flights in Vegas during the summer. Yeah, 232 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:04.480 you could do that, said, hey guys, yeah, you all backchips, 233 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:06.600 we'll see in the Bahamas. 234 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:10.879 Yeah, you could do that, you know, essentially you could 235 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:13.480 do that. Probably what the day off of the main 236 00:13:14.559 --> 00:13:16.960 final table and then the two final table days, that's 237 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:19.279 probably a good time to do it, you know that. 238 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:23.080 Right, everyone's looking for everyone's trying to play some stuff, 239 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:24.960 right like I mean, it's in a way as a 240 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:28.080 satellite to that tournament. You know, they do plenty of 241 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:30.159 the stuff where you know, you play that, you play 242 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:33.279 the day ones or whatever online, right, or you play 243 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:35.679 the qualifiers online, same sort of thing. 244 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:40.480 The only problem is you would have to there's two things. Well, 245 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:42.120 the best thing is that, let's say they did a 246 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:44.879 seventy five million dollar guarantee, you could probably knock off 247 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:47.600 twenty million in Vegas, So that's probably pretty good. They'll 248 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:50.080 give them a little bit of ease. The second thing, though, 249 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:52.279 this is where it gets tricky, I think, and you know, 250 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:55.279 maybe you disagree with me here. You would probably have 251 00:13:55.360 --> 00:14:00.200 to play to the money, but then also pull some 252 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:03.320 money out of the prize pool for travel like or 253 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:06.919 pre pay something like pre pay travel expenses. The difference 254 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:10.200 with Bahamas is you're already there. You've already either won 255 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.240 a package or you paid your accommodation. Like you think 256 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:14.960 of all the packages that people won or gave out. 257 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.240 The value was thirty thousand, right, five thousand for accommodation 258 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.279 and travel. So now if you're going to win your 259 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:23.480 seat live, you know, in Vegas, just like you have 260 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:26.360 to think of as a normal satellite Like when I 261 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:29.639 won my WSP Main Events seat in Australia. You know, 262 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:32.879 I won the seat plus travel and accommodation. So I 263 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:35.240 think you would have to get a little finicky with 264 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:39.200 the payouts or like get creative with how you can 265 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:43.039 ensure people go and play. You know, you could also 266 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:45.759 make it very simple. You've made the money. I'm not 267 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.440 paying you out unless you put your ass in the 268 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:51.480 seat in paradise, which is fair enough. Right do you 269 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:53.919 cash for fifty k? You know? All right, fine, I'll 270 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:56.720 spend three thousand dollars on flights and accommodation, get myself 271 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:00.720 down there so I can make sit down ask cash 272 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:01.360 out fifty k. 273 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:03.919 So I mean, what were they didn't they do I 274 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:06.039 don't think I don't think they did it this year. 275 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:09.080 But last year they had some day one flights online 276 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:11.919 they Yeah, and then you got into like day three 277 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:12.759 or something like that. 278 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:17.360 Yeah, you were expedited to day three, so. 279 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:18.720 You do something like that. It's just only in the 280 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:19.360 live setting. 281 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:24.039 Look, WSP, it's a new animal this year, next year, 282 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:27.399 GG poker can do whatever they want. They can get 283 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:30.240 very creative here. Like you said, they can do stuff 284 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:33.720 like this where you fast chuck the live players straight 285 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:36.840 into to day three. You can you know, they have 286 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:39.639 gg poker, but they also have WSP dot com. Why 287 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:42.440 not do the same thing with WWSP dot dot com. 288 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:45.960 Maybe it's not twenty five k pius point, maybe it's 289 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:49.279 a much smaller price point, but it gets you to 290 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:52.440 the day two. You can do lots of things, you know, 291 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:57.480 like there's a there is a strategic plan right where 292 00:15:57.480 --> 00:15:59.960 we could see this being one hundred million dollar guarantee. 293 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:02.360 Now it's not going to happen. Well, it could happen 294 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:04.960 next year, but you have to put the things in 295 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:09.440 motion and really kind of coordinate everything. When I say everything, 296 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:11.679 i'm talking you know, we're we're going to touch on 297 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.519 a bit later. But WSP Europe in April. Then you 298 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:18.679 got to coordinate WSP Vegas, You've got to coordinate GG 299 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:22.679 poker online, WSP dot com online, and then obviously Paradise 300 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.600 being the biggest one. But you can definitely push this 301 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:29.399 to being one hundred million dollar guarantee super main event 302 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:34.720 in the Bahamas with planning and not just giving out, 303 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:36.679 you know, fifty million dollars in seats. I think they 304 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:40.000 can get there organically in a way. 305 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.000 I'm curious if because I know, you know, when the 306 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.840 WPT partnered with when they came out with their big guarantee, 307 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:52.120 they obviously update a ton to forty million the next year, 308 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:55.879 and a lot of the discussion and I think we 309 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:00.240 probably even talked about it on this podcast, and I 310 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:02.360 know we talked about it even off the podcast for sure. 311 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:04.559 But you know, the question is does it ever over 312 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:08.359 overtake the ws AP main event in Las Vegas? Now 313 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:12.319 that's obviously too well this let me set it up 314 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:13.839 a little bit more. Is that you know that event, 315 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:16.759 the WPD World Championship, that's competitor verse competitor, Like they're 316 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:20.839 going head to head here. I mean, it's it's internal, right, 317 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:25.599 So is that the plan here? You know? Are what 318 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:28.079 are they what are they trying to do? Ws A. 319 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:33.559 It's just it's very interesting to be both an industry 320 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:36.640 insider and also a fan and kind of just watching 321 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:44.240 this all unfold because I mean, it seems like it 322 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:49.759 seems to me that there was a lot more promotional 323 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:54.680 effort put into the ws AP Paradise Super Main Event 324 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:57.440 than there was the WASP Main Event in Las Vegas. Now, 325 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:01.000 of course you kind of have to do that because 326 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:03.920 one of them has a big ass guarantee you got 327 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:06.240 to hit, and the other one, the other one doesn't 328 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:09.359 and really has a really solid, solid, excuse me, solid 329 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:12.359 foundation that you kind of just like, you know, at 330 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:17.079 this point, you know, barring any like insane outcomes or 331 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:19.160 you know, happenings in the world that the WASP man 332 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:22.319 event is Las Vegas is probably nine thousand players at 333 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:28.279 its floor, like stone floor, you know. So so it's interesting, right, 334 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:31.039 you know, because to your point, if they if they 335 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:33.880 start to grow this thing, let's say, seventy five million 336 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:36.319 next year, one hundred million the year after that, and 337 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:40.839 they really start, you know, ramping it up, it starts 338 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:44.920 to kind of overtake the WSP Main Event in Las Vegas. 339 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:47.279 And there's a little bit more flexibility with with doing 340 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.400 things in the Bahamas, you know. You know, GG poker 341 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:54.480 has done a lot to uh make some innovations here 342 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:58.119 in the US, but the US Gaming industry also has 343 00:18:58.160 --> 00:19:00.759 a lot of regulations that you have to abide by. 344 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:02.319 You know, you can't just like come in here and 345 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:04.680 start firing Crypto in his buyings like stuff like that, 346 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:06.480 whereas like in the Bahamas, it's like you can kind 347 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:09.799 of do whatever you want. So it's a little bit freer. Now, 348 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:13.200 there's obviously positives and there's negatives to every sort of thing. 349 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:16.079 I'm just I'm just already starting like the wheels in 350 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:17.960 my head are starting to turn, like what does this 351 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.000 thing look like? Because it's clearly now become this behemoth 352 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:25.319 that is, you know, legitimately here, and it looks like 353 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:28.599 it's here to stay. And you know, now it's like 354 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:33.079 how big does it grow? And is it going to 355 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:35.359 overtake the SPMN event in Las Vegas? And that is 356 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:37.000 that the plan internally? I mean, I don't think we're 357 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:40.200 ever gonna know the actual plan, but is that just 358 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:43.519 kind of that natural progression here, you know. So I'm 359 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:45.160 just I guess I'm kind of curious just to see 360 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:46.119 how it all plays out. 361 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:50.559 They could do whatever they want for this event four 362 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:57.720 hundred million dollars guaranteed never ever be better than the 363 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:01.480 WSP main event here in Las Vegas. You can see that, 364 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:06.400 I'm sorry, there's some purity to that event. Really that 365 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:10.559 every man, right, the Tim Duckworth of the world, that 366 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:13.519 can jump in on the buzzer on day two D 367 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:15.480 with their ten thousand dollars. 368 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:18.440 Okay, but you also do realize that if it were 369 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:20.599 to come to that, they could literally can't they own 370 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:23.440 them one in Vegas? They could say, like. 371 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:26.599 They don't change it. I'm saying, let's pretends it stays 372 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:30.680 as it is. There is the purity of the freeze 373 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:34.440 out aspect, there's the history, the lineage of fifty odd 374 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:38.759 years of w Suputer edition. It's the one, you know. 375 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:42.640 Let's also talk about just the ease of getting to Vegas. 376 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:44.759 I can jump on a Southwest flight, I can drive 377 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:47.960 from California, can catch a damn bullet train in a 378 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:51.759 couple of years probably right, put up my ten thousand 379 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:55.160 dollars play. If I'm buss, I go home. If I 380 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:58.480 make it through, I continue. There's it's really hard to 381 00:20:58.559 --> 00:21:01.920 kind of defeat that. And now let's let's pretend it 382 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:05.279 stays at Atlantis. You know, if we remove all the 383 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:09.440 poker stuff from Atlantis, there's still a lot of negativity 384 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:12.519 with that. Now there's the it's the food, the service, 385 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:18.200 you know, the slowness of the service too. Now if 386 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:21.440 they decide to move to Baha Mah, does Atlantis, Mate does? 387 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:24.279 Does Gigi Poker? Just buy Atlantis and say look, let's 388 00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:26.079 make this better. Sure that's possibility too. 389 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:27.519 Now that's je Poker Island. 390 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.880 Yeah, that could happen. Now, I think that could change 391 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.319 things a lot and a more positive site. I just 392 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:35.920 don't think this event as it is, twenty five k 393 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:40.359 buying a gazillion re entries really appeals to the greater 394 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:43.559 player pool that is poker. And that's okay. Because they 395 00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:46.759 have the Las Vegas main event, they have other opportunities. 396 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:51.000 This appeals to, you know, let's let's be real high 397 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:54.920 stakes poker players and that's okay. It has its place 398 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:58.480 on the poker schedule, on the poker calendar, and it 399 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:02.519 appeals to enough players and they're all there. Now, if 400 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:05.119 you're the everyday person that only has that one buy in, 401 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:07.839 I'll see you. I'll see you in July and Vegas. 402 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:11.440 You know, if you're you know, more of a value. 403 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:13.880 You know, you look at all the people here playing 404 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:16.839 the WPT event that we thought, Hey, they may be 405 00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:19.599 over at Bahamas, but are not that appeals to them. 406 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:24.200 I think there's enough difference between what's going on on 407 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:27.160 the schedule, whether it's you know, the WSP versus WPT 408 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:32.480 debate or just the WSP Paradise versus WSP Vegas debate. 409 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:36.920 So I don't think you know, it will ever ever 410 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:42.559 take over the Las Vegas main event, unless you know, 411 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:46.359 they decide to just click cancel on it, or they, 412 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:50.160 you know, like I said, by Atlantis and hire a 413 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:53.359 million people to run the restaurants and speed things up 414 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:55.920 or make it. You know, I think you said it 415 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:58.119 the other day. Isn't it like seven hundred five hundred 416 00:22:58.119 --> 00:23:01.640 dollars a night? That's pretty expensive for the for the 417 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:05.759 the rex out there, and you know, just it just 418 00:23:05.799 --> 00:23:09.000 to me, nothing will have a have a bait the 419 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:10.000 WSP main event. 420 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:12.920 Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm gonna walk back kind of 421 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:15.519 my stance a little bit. I'm not saying I think 422 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:17.960 it's going to be. I do agree with you, I would. 423 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:20.599 I also wouldn't go as far as you you're saying 424 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:22.720 never ever. I'll say it's always there's always a non 425 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:25.279 zero chance, right, It is always a non zero chance. 426 00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:27.880 So I mean, I do think that kind of something 427 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:31.000 you touched on a little bit, there is where I 428 00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:34.559 kind of end up going with it in that you know, 429 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:36.720 I don't know, I feel like I'm a decent test 430 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:41.079 case for this sort of stuff. To me, playing in 431 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:46.240 the w SP Super Main Event and feeling like I 432 00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:51.880 have a shot seems unattainable, which I think is probably 433 00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:56.359 the biggest hurdle to overcome if you are trying to 434 00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:00.759 grow this event in terms of mass appeal, because I 435 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.880 just think like like this year, like I'm looking at 436 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.000 it and I'm like, well, you know, One, there's the 437 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:09.079 hurdle of like if it's hard to travel for poker 438 00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:12.000 these days, especially to a place where it's going to 439 00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:14.599 cost you, you know, five hundred dollars plus a night 440 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:17.240 or whatever it might be. You know, you know, food's 441 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:21.400 expensive there, et cetera. Like that's that's hard. So there's 442 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:24.720 that aspect to overcome. Second, I mean, twenty five K 443 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:26.279 is a lot of freaking money to buy into a 444 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:28.680 poker tournament. Like I will take one or two shots 445 00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:30.799 in a ten K year, you know, sell some action 446 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:34.079 and get in there. But twenty five K is hard 447 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:36.359 and then on top of that, it's not only like 448 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:40.680 your random twenty five K or like a good feel 449 00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:42.920 the twenty five K. I mean this is I've been 450 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:45.119 watching the coverage. I've been following all. I mean, it's 451 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.480 killers after killers after killers, and even guys you don't know, 452 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:50.960 you just know that they're killers from online. You're watching 453 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:52.359 the hands that they're playing. You're like, what in the 454 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:56.759 hell is going on here? And they have unlimited buy ins. 455 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:01.000 So it's like the unattainability for for somebody like me 456 00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:03.440 or somebody that's more on the fence. I think it's 457 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:06.960 it's hard, right, It's so it's I think if you're 458 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:10.319 the w s AP, the hardest thing to again make 459 00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:13.359 this event more mass appeal is being able to like 460 00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:15.839 sell that dream. I don't I agree with you that, 461 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:17.519 you know, I think this event has a place. Like 462 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:19.519 you said, they have the WSP main event that's like 463 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.920 the every every pokerman's dream to go play that tournament, 464 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:25.640 and then here it's this is kind of like the 465 00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:28.720 high rollers dream, you know. I just I think it's 466 00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:30.240 hard to sell this to the everyman. 467 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:30.640 Now. 468 00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:34.119 I think if you were to sell it to the everyman, 469 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:36.640 you would have to make some changes. I think making 470 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:38.680 it a freeze out is probably the number one change, 471 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:42.799 you know, But then you go into the fact that, like, well, 472 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:44.440 if it's a freeze out, how are we going to 473 00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:46.960 hit sixty million dollars or even fifty million dollars in 474 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:48.359 a price play? How are you going to do that? 475 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:51.079 And how you're gonna scalop that way? I mean, you're 476 00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:53.440 probably gonna just have to try and get five thousand 477 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:56.440 unique players down to the Bahamas. And that's in and 478 00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:59.440 of itself in issue like it can can Atlantis even 479 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:01.680 how is five thousand players? You know, Like at that 480 00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:04.519 point you start getting into all the logistical aspects of things. 481 00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:09.240 So it's just it's very interesting to see it all 482 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:15.799 play out. I'm genuinely fascinated by it all, you know, 483 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:20.000 So I'm curious to see where it goes in the 484 00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:24.880 next two three years. In kind of the immediate surface, 485 00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:27.920 it's definitely not going anywhere, you know. Some of this 486 00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:30.799 news that we'll get into next is why it's not 487 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.440 going anywhere. I Mean, they announced the dates for next 488 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.720 year already. They have We'll get to the WSP Player 489 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:38.440 of the Year stuff, but that's going to be awarding 490 00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:41.319 packages to the twenty twenty seven version of this, Like, 491 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:44.079 so this thing is here to stay, right, and as 492 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:50.519 I said, it's an absolute freaking behemoth. So I don't know. Also, like, yeah, 493 00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:53.359 you're gonna get the guys, the you know, the Chidwick's, 494 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:56.160 the negran Who's you know, all these guys that are 495 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.640 going down there. Jesse Loanis et cetera firing eight nine 496 00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:02.599 ten fabian gums fired ten bullets, like you know, all 497 00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:05.400 these guys are firing double digit bullets, you know, five 498 00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:07.279 plus bullets at a minimum, all that sort of stuff. 499 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:10.640 I think Jeremy Osmus fired what four bullets? Yeah, you know, 500 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:13.039 and he was like he feels good that he only 501 00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:16.759 had to fire four bullets type of thing. So, but 502 00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:18.960 do you lose the people that are that are turned 503 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:21.400 off by that? So the people that went down there 504 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:23.519 with a shot, right, you know, the people that might 505 00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:25.839 have been chasing like some of those bonuses that you mentioned, 506 00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.359 the Paradise Parlay cash the main event in Vegas. Go 507 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.039 down there, you cash, you get another twenty five k 508 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:31.680 like stuff like that. Are you gonna are you gonna 509 00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:36.200 lose those fringe people? And that's gonna be interesting to see. 510 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:38.839 You know, you can still go there planning to fire 511 00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:39.920 one bullet like. 512 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:41.920 Yeah, but what But that's what I'm saying is that 513 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.680 the people that might think that do, they just end 514 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:49.400 up not going because if they say, like, hey, I 515 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.000 can spend twenty five K or twenty six k, right 516 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.079 plus travel. Let's say I'm thirty k all in, because 517 00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:58.279 that's the thing I'm getting at here. I can go 518 00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:00.359 thirty k on. I can go fire my one bullet 519 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:04.960 down there, cool right, or and this is where again 520 00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.079 it goes back to the clashing events. I can go 521 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.960 to Vegas and WPT win, which is three flights freeze 522 00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:13.759 out per flight ten k, and I'm basically in that 523 00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.200 thing with a possible three chances if I need it 524 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:19.160 for the same exact amount of money buy and wise. Now, 525 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:20.640 of course you can win a lot more in the 526 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:23.799 super main event because of the guarantee, the prize pool, 527 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:25.640 all that sort of stuff, But then you also have 528 00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:29.119 to factor in that, you know, the the WPT World 529 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:32.759 Championship is. I mean, I'm pretty confident to say that 530 00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:36.519 it's a much softer field and easier for you know, 531 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:40.960 lesser players. Not that I'm knocking everyone that's playing that 532 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:43.079 event just lesser than like, you know, like the super 533 00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:45.559 Wizards that are going to go down to play in Paradise. 534 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:50.400 So it's it's interesting in that regard, you know, so 535 00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.480 so are the people that are the people that kind 536 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:54.559 of you saw some stuff on social media that might 537 00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.519 have you know, complained or mentioned the multi entry and 538 00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:00.680 the number that these guys are firing. Are those the 539 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.319 people that you're turning off and then you lose I 540 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.839 don't know, let's say four hundred unique players, three hundred 541 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:10.000 unique players, whatever it is, I don't know, because then 542 00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:14.960 you know, if you're somebody like a top pro and 543 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.160 you know that those one bullet people that you might 544 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.960 view as like the spots in the field, the soft spots, 545 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.440 if they're not coming, does that make it less advantageous 546 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:26.039 for you to then go. So it's just again, I'm 547 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.720 just really fascinated on how it all plays out. Ten 548 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.960 million dollars first place prize. The prize pool was officially 549 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.000 announced today that they did say that you know, they 550 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:37.599 got up over seventy two million. I think it was 551 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:39.799 seventy million, two hundred and seventy five thousand in the 552 00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:45.160 prize pool in total, they released the prize pool breakdown today, 553 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.839 ten million dollars for first it's very very similar at 554 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.480 the final table too, the DUBS main event in Las Vegas. 555 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.359 The first I think four spots are the exact same 556 00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.359 ten million, six million, four million, three million, and then 557 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:02.519 fifth place here is two point three five I think 558 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:05.480 in Vegas it was two point four. Then you got 559 00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:07.680 sixth place one point eight, you got seventh place one 560 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:10.000 point four, eighth place one point one, ninth place eight 561 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.200 hundred and fifty k, and I believe in Vegas ninth 562 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:14.039 place was a million. That was the big thing. 563 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:15.319 It was exact same. 564 00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:20.480 I mean, sure, why not? I mean, you know, I 565 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:22.160 would bet that some of that had to do with 566 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:24.799 because it was very it was very kind of weird 567 00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:28.759 with the payouts for this because like because of the 568 00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:31.200 way they did the schedule, like you got to cash 569 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.640 on day two a right, but they have no idea 570 00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.680 what the total prize pool is because there's still two 571 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.440 full flights plus that second day two and there's there's 572 00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.799 entries in all of that. Yeah, so like you have 573 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:44.960 no idea. But then on the other side of things, 574 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:48.480 you guaranteed I think they guaranteed or at least they 575 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:50.240 might have said it. But a mint cash is worth 576 00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:50.799 fifty k. 577 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:54.160 Yeah, which is well all WSP events now the men 578 00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:55.039 cash is two x. 579 00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:57.480 But what they did, but it's interesting to do that 580 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.759 without knowing like the full pay out in such a 581 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:01.759 big buy an event. 582 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.079 They also did two pay jumps on day one a 583 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.359 sorry under day twos, which I don't think they needed 584 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:08.960 to do. I think they could have just kept it 585 00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:11.160 a fifty k. I mean, you're not saving a lot 586 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:11.519 of money. 587 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:13.359 You get a page on if you make day three. 588 00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.279 And then and then yeah, you just made like paid. 589 00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:17.720 So now the men cash on day three, which was 590 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:20.519 seventy thousand, could have just been sixty thousand. So you're 591 00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:25.559 probably finding an extra half a million dollars, you know, 592 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:27.559 if you just change those payouts that you could have 593 00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.240 put up to top up the top to get that 594 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.839 ninth place million dollars, bumped the other ones up a 595 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.880 little bit and kind of copy paste what we did 596 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:36.759 in Vegas. 597 00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:41.839 Yeah, I mean, the tournament's just wild. I don't know 598 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.759 what else to say. It's Tuesday, December sixteenth. Day three 599 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.640 is running down in the Bahamas. They started the day 600 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.160 with I believe two hundred and two players. They are 601 00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.680 very much deep into that now. There was a flurry 602 00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.319 of eliminations to start right away. They're under one hundred 603 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.920 players now in the field. Coming into the day, it 604 00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:06.160 was Martin Cabrell who had the chip lead. Yes, the 605 00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:09.519 loud guy, the obnoxious guy. Right now it is Faraz 606 00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:12.839 Jaka who came into the day in the top ten. 607 00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.200 He looks to be leading the way. Chad Eaves Sledge 608 00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:19.000 also came into the day in the top ten. He's 609 00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:22.960 up there crushing as well. Andy Wilson, a very good 610 00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:25.319 British player, is up there in the top ten. It 611 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.960 looks like Daniel Rozai who won a w SIP Eagle 612 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.079 bracelet in one of the events down in Paradise. He 613 00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.119 won the fifty k nolanvan hold Him high Roller Turbo, 614 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:38.799 a PGT qualifying event. He's crushing. Poker media member Terrence 615 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.440 Reid is freaking crushing. He looks like he's in like 616 00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.599 eleventh place, top fifteen. Jesse Lonis is in there, Jamil Wakiel, 617 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:50.759 Alexander Theologists, Martin Cabrell is still in Yes, David Coleman 618 00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:54.480 is in there. So I mean Natasha Mercier is in there. 619 00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:56.680 I mean, this this event is just freaking wild. So 620 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.759 still still kind of a long way to go with 621 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.039 all of this. You had Alex Foxen busting today, Joe 622 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:08.160 Katta busted today, Jean Abert Balan busted today, Chris Moneymaker 623 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.519 busted today. Nick Bartangelo also busted it today, so you know, 624 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:16.240 very interesting to follow along, very exciting to see it 625 00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.319 all happen. They are streaming this on the WSP YouTube channel, 626 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.279 so you guys can check that out if you want. 627 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.279 And then I did want to get to one other 628 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.640 person who is still in because this is another kind 629 00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:31.160 of point of contention around the around the industry. But 630 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.799 Ren Lynn. Ren Lynn showed up to play, which I 631 00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:39.039 don't know if you guys remember, but he was recently 632 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:44.720 suspended indefinitely from World Series of Poker events and then 633 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:47.640 next thing you know, he's in the Bahamas playing. So 634 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:51.000 of course that generated a lot of buzz, a lot 635 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.200 of news and for those that missed it, you know Rehn. 636 00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.119 The story is that he basically answered a call from 637 00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:02.000 a friend that he was that was playing in a tournament. 638 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:05.839 Basically the friend was like asking him questions and showing 639 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:07.920 him spots in a tournament but it was actually like 640 00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:09.960 the live tournament that the guy was playing, Wren was 641 00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:15.159 helping him, and it was ruled you know, real time assistants, 642 00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:19.599 and then you know, Wren came out afterwards, he issued 643 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.960 this long apology. He tried to make people right financially, 644 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.280 sending out all this different money to the various people 645 00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:27.880 that were possibly affected at the final table and all 646 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:31.400 that sort of stuff. Obviously, GG Poker and w SP 647 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:33.800 come out, you know, in the aftermath they say he's 648 00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:38.480 suspended indefinitely. You know, then at the time the suspension, 649 00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.159 you know, there was a lot of people that was like, listen, 650 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:42.760 it wasn't that bad. You know, if if what Wren 651 00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.320 really did or what he said he did, you know, 652 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:47.559 if that's actually how it went down, then you know, 653 00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.119 it's not that bad. He tried to correct it immediately, 654 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.079 he tried to you know, issue the apology. Obviously, he 655 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:58.199 tried to issue the financial money or you know, the 656 00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:01.199 finances to everyone to kind of make them on the situation. 657 00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.000 So maybe the penalty that of the indifferent suspension was 658 00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.039 a little bit more hard than it should have been. 659 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.639 But now it's interesting because everyone's like, well, I thought 660 00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:14.239 you suspended this guy indefinitely and now just the next 661 00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:15.519 series he's just back in the mix. 662 00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:16.960 That's here. 663 00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:20.719 You're you're a commissioner of a basically a poker league, Like, 664 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.000 how would you handle this thing? 665 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.159 I don't know. It's a tough one. But the big 666 00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:27.719 difference between Ran and other people that are been you know, 667 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.840 suspended or banned or whatever have you know, he did 668 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:34.880 come out immediately, tried to make things right, So that's 669 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.679 a big difference, if we're being honest. I think a 670 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.599 lot of people have predicted that he would be back 671 00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:45.199 at least by next World series, if not Paradise. So, 672 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:48.679 I mean, they banned him and then they unbanned him. 673 00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:50.559 I don't really have a problem with it, to be honest, 674 00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:51.679 I don't. 675 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:53.719 Well, I think the problem for many people is that 676 00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.760 you're trying to hit this huge guarantee and you unban 677 00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.000 a guy that can possibly put ten bullets in this tournament, 678 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.519 Like that's that's the that's the that's the dots that 679 00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:03.760 people are connecting. 680 00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:05.239 You know what. I never thought of it that way. 681 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.599 The kudos are the people who thought that was the 682 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.559 reason they I'm banning Well, I mean that's just kind 683 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:14.960 of a yeah, but like one person isn't going to 684 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:15.159 make it. 685 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.079 Yeah, of course one person is not going to go. 686 00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:19.360 But still, I mean, if you're if you're trying to 687 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.119 pull players from everywhere to hit a huge guarantee, I mean, 688 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:26.400 you know, like, yeah, I mean, I guess optically, I 689 00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:29.360 think it does look a little bit bad. You know, 690 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.719 in indefinite suspension is there's obviously no timetable on it. 691 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:36.519 They can lift the suspension whenever they want. I do 692 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.519 think that, you know, Wren handled the situation after it 693 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.199 happened as best he could, you know, immediately coming out 694 00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:46.719 saying like, yeah, I screwed up. I'm sorry, here's the 695 00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:49.480 money back to these people. But I also think that, 696 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.199 you know, maybe w SP and GG should have been like, listen, 697 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:56.639 here's the deal. You're suspended for WSP Paradise. You can't 698 00:36:56.679 --> 00:37:01.280 do anything there, and you know, we'll revisit it next 699 00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:03.239 year and then maybe they they allow him to play 700 00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:06.719 WISP Europe or the Douvasip in Las Vegas, right, you know, 701 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.599 But I think I think lifting a suspension before you 702 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:13.199 actually had any other events is kind of a weird. 703 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:17.159 Look like, at least suspend him for like something, and 704 00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.280 it just so happens that that's something for them would 705 00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.559 have been dobsip Paradise, so you know, probably would have 706 00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.679 just suspended him for WSP Paris has been like listen, buddy, 707 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:27.320 you just got to sit out, man. I'm sorry. You 708 00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.199 know you're you're on a six month ban or whatever 709 00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.559 the heck it is. You know, you did some good 710 00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:33.559 things in terms of trying to right the wrongs after 711 00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:35.880 the fact, but you still did wrong. So you know, 712 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:37.159 we got to kind of set a little bit of 713 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.880 an example here, and that's what we're gonna do. But 714 00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:43.400 I do agree with you that, you know, it's not 715 00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:45.400 as bad as some of the others in the past, 716 00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:47.480 and I don't think he should be suspended for life 717 00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:49.960 or anything like that, but I think he kind of 718 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.599 do have to set some sort of like you know, 719 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:56.119 precedence here. But anyway, Redland's backpoint and he's still on 720 00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:59.039 with under Hunter Proyers left, so let's see how that goes. 721 00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.880 I mentioned that this is is a PGT qualifying event. 722 00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:07.000 You had Michael the Grinder, Miss Rocky and John wo Wasnock, 723 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.840 the top two finishers from this year's WSB Man event 724 00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.480 in Las Vegas. They both needed to find a second 725 00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:16.800 cash in order to get that third qualifying cash or sorry, 726 00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:18.760 a third cash. They both needed to find a third cash. 727 00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:22.519 They had two my fault in order to be eligible 728 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.320 for the PGT Million Dollar Championship at the end of 729 00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.000 the season. They both got it in this event. I 730 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:31.440 don't know if miss Rocky knows. I know for sure 731 00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.199 Big wah Was knows because he immediately sent a DM 732 00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.920 to the poker Twitter account or the PGT account was like, 733 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.719 I got my third cash. I'll see you in January 734 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:44.679 in Vegas. So Was knows. He's ready to go. He's 735 00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:48.159 been he's been grinding. He was at Venetian, he played 736 00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:52.000 maybe a couple nept events. He played for sure in 737 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:55.239 Texas like he was, He's playing stuff like he's trying 738 00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:57.599 to get this third cash. He finally got it in 739 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:01.599 this damn event. So congrats to you, mister Wasnack, and 740 00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.559 we will see you in Las Vegas. Now, Michael m 741 00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:07.039 is Rocky have no idea he knows like he could know, 742 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:08.639 he could not know. I know we talked with him 743 00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:12.320 during the National Heads Up Poker Championship and he was like, yeah, 744 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:14.320 I'm gonna get my third but I have no idea 745 00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.039 what grinder knows or doesn't know. I mean, for all 746 00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:18.840 we know, he might think the event already happened. 747 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:23.119 Yeah, we'll send someone a message to alert him. But 748 00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:26.920 uh yeah, him and him and was got that third cash? 749 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:29.760 That good on them. The guys that also needed a 750 00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:33.639 second I mean a second or a third cash don't 751 00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:35.320 appear to be there playing. 752 00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.079 So the one that sticks out to me is Leo Margetts. 753 00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:40.480 She's not there. She's at the wind. 754 00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:41.400 She's at the wind. 755 00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:43.960 She would he would need two cashes though. 756 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:49.000 Kenny Hallett, he's over in Prague, which does make sense. 757 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:53.800 Jared mc guiney he is here in Vegas too, But yeah, 758 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:57.760 so we'll probably see those. Fellow w SP Main Event 759 00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:03.559 final table is not participate in the upcoming free role. 760 00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.320 But I think the biggest kind of changes on the leaderboard. 761 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:10.159 And look, we still have several events left. There's sixteen 762 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:14.519 hundred points up top in the Super Main, so things 763 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:16.559 are going to keep moving. But you know the biggest 764 00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:19.000 change is Stephen Chidwick. He jumped up into the top ten. 765 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.480 We had Michael Manchek pick up some much need to 766 00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:26.559 points when he finished runner up to Charlie hook, he's 767 00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.159 up into the top twenty. And then you've got a 768 00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:30.920 lot of people in this in this middle group. I'm 769 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:33.679 going to throw out some names at you right now. 770 00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:37.960 Obviously you got Jesse Lonas who's seventh, but you know, 771 00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:41.280 you have Victor Blum, you had Chadiveslays, you have Latara Guerrera. 772 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.800 So Gio Ittor just busted. But those guys in those 773 00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.480 mid twenties with sixteen hundred points, they could take the 774 00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:53.639 lead over Alex Foxon who did cash in the main event. 775 00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:58.800 But yeah, we could see, you know, some dramatic changes 776 00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:02.800 on the whole entire lead aboard once you know, WSP 777 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:06.079 Paradise kind of wraps up, obviously a couple more events 778 00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.719 left too, and then we're gonna lead obviously into our 779 00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:13.239 PGT Last Chance. That will really kind of shape everything 780 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.599 heading into that you know, million dollar Championship. 781 00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:19.760 Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be a lot of movement, 782 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.400 as you said, coming out of this whole thing. I mean, 783 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:24.239 we'll have to have to watch every single day and 784 00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:28.000 see how this thing unfolds, and then you know, we'll 785 00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.880 we'll go from there. So it would be it would 786 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.920 be pretty wild to see someone, you know, kind of 787 00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.480 come out of like outside the top forty and like 788 00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:41.239 you know, make a huge leap, get into the top forty, 789 00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:44.719 ultimately be able to possibly challenge for Player of the 790 00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:46.599 Year honors. Like you know, it's just there's a lot 791 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:47.360 to be there. 792 00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.960 One name for that is Daniel Roseai. Yeah, he obviously 793 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.039 won the fifty k high roll of the seven hundred 794 00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.760 and fifty points. That was his second cash of the season. 795 00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:59.920 He's still in the main event, so let's just pretend 796 00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:03.159 he wins that. That's sixteen hundred. So now he's up 797 00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:05.960 to twenty three hundred and he's sitting third on the Leadabard. 798 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:07.320 I mean, that's just wild. 799 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.079 Yeah. Wild. You know, there's a lot of kind of 800 00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:13.800 crazy stuff like that that could happen, and yeah, we 801 00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:16.440 we just get through broad eyes. The other thing, which 802 00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:18.079 is tricky, which is, you know, I don't think we 803 00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.719 really took into account when we gave WSB the Green 804 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.840 Lion was the double cashing. You know, like how does 805 00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:29.519 that affect you know, like you know, Nacho Barbero is 806 00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:32.280 a good one. He's cashed twice. You know, how does 807 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:34.320 that affect how many points does he get for that? 808 00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:36.920 Because he's on he's at eight hundred and two points, 809 00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:40.880 so he's about, you know, one hundred points out of 810 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:46.320 the top forty. He's cash twice. How are we gonna Uh? 811 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:48.440 I mean, I think you have to honor it. But 812 00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:51.920 I personally, I like, I was aware of how they 813 00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:54.400 were doing this structure at the beginning of the tournament. 814 00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:58.119 I thought, I don't know why. My mind just thought, Okay, 815 00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.159 they're going to make the money on day three. What 816 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.960 I thought, like that just made sense to me. I 817 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:04.679 was like, why would you have people double cashing in 818 00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.039 this tournament? But I'm also like, okay, I get it 819 00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.199 from their aside, because you want people double cashing because 820 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:11.519 only fire multiple boards and that helps through guarantee. 821 00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.519 For the way I'm I've kind of already approached it 822 00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:17.599 heading into this was they get the highest of the points, 823 00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:23.119 they get both payouts in their stats, and but they 824 00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:26.480 only get one cash because it's one event still, so 825 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:32.840 you know, like forward best points forward, that's the most 826 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:36.239 points forward, best cash forward. But we'll give them credit 827 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.039 for the for the the amount of money they won, 828 00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:41.239 mainly because it's going to mess up on my data 829 00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:44.199 if I don't do that that way. But that kind 830 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.519 of makes sense to me the most. You know, Nicha 831 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:48.239 Burbera is a good one. He could have picked up 832 00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.679 ninety points, but he's only going to pick up fifty six. 833 00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:53.599 I think that's, you know, fairly fair to me. And 834 00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:55.599 obviously there's a few more, but I have to wait 835 00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:58.760 till everyone kind of busts, because you know, going through 836 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.159 WSP plus today, you're still seeing a lot of like 837 00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:07.519 code names, you know, super Yang A twenty three, et cetera, 838 00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:09.719 and trying to figure out who these guys actually are 839 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:14.880 and you know where if they cash twice and I 840 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.440 have to, you know, get fancy with my spreadsheet. 841 00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:19.480 I'll tell you what. Though, in that WSP plus app, 842 00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:21.960 they did fix the font size that I was complaining 843 00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:24.280 about all summer long, and the font sizes. 844 00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:27.280 It seems to get better every day, like it seems 845 00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:27.400 to be. 846 00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.719 My only issue is I don't have to restart an 847 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:33.119 app more than I restart every day. I have to 848 00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:35.719 restart this app. I mean, I know that they're obviously 849 00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:38.639 doing updates every single day and it's it's constantly improving, 850 00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:40.840 but which is a good thing. But I'm also like, 851 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.119 do I have to always restart this app? 852 00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:47.400 The one thing. I just I'm assuming there's probably a solution. 853 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:49.800 You know, we obviously dealt a lot with the WSB 854 00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.920 plus app, you know, during the summer with but the 855 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:57.400 feature table player, you know, name blanked out, chips removed, 856 00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.400 and they have a YouTube logo. Like it needs to 857 00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:03.320 be a better way to do this, Like, you know, 858 00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.480 I just I need to see who that person is. 859 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.440 If you don't want to update the chips, that's fine, 860 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.280 but like we need especially like think about it tomorrow 861 00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:11.679 when they play, the. 862 00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:14.400 Name should be there, but like where the chips are 863 00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:16.239 should maybe just be like a lock symbol, like the 864 00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:18.639 chips are locked, that's right, you know, or like too 865 00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:21.519 or maybe that maybe the chip symbol is like it 866 00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:24.559 says it puts the chips there, but then it says 867 00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.400 like next to it sixty minutes ago or something, because 868 00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:29.840 it's it's you know, based off whatever. Like I don't 869 00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:31.639 know something, but I do agree with you that it's 870 00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:33.440 a little bit weird because you're you're trying to sweat 871 00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:34.800 the updates and then you're like, well, who the heck 872 00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.079 are these eighty nine people? Where'd they go? 873 00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:40.039 You know, tomorrow everyone will be a feature table player. 874 00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:41.559 Well, yeah, exactly. 875 00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:44.199 That's the kind of issue. And if they really look, 876 00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:46.119 do they really care about do they really want people 877 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:49.480 watching or they want on people on the app? You know, 878 00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:50.519 I I think it's I. 879 00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:51.840 Mean, I think they ultimately want both. 880 00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:53.920 I don't know what that means possible, you know, I'm 881 00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:57.119 I'm a firm believer. If you want to watch the stream, 882 00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:58.800 you'll watch the stream. If you want to look at 883 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:00.639 the updates, you look at the updates. I think they 884 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:06.800 can both be essentially live without really jeopardizing anything. So 885 00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:08.559 that's my theory on it. 886 00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:12.079 All right, Well, you know what, we'll obviously be keeping 887 00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:14.679 tabs on this thing as it goes. That is the 888 00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:17.920 WSP Paradise Super Main Event. Ten million dollars to first place, 889 00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:20.639 more than seventy two million dollars in the prize pool, 890 00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:24.559 and they are down to fewer than one hundred players. 891 00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:28.199 Gabriella Gabrielle Andrade is still in by the way, I 892 00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:31.559 just know, oh my god, he's running on the pot. 893 00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:33.519 I remember. I think if you guys remember, from like 894 00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:36.280 what maybe two podcasts ago, I told a story about 895 00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:40.280 how he was buried chasing the TCH Main Event sixteen 896 00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:43.239 hundred dollars a pop brick. The entire series were putting 897 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:47.000 like twelve bullets, came over to the Champions, played the 898 00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:50.400 final like hypertobo flight got in made a running that 899 00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.800 main event. He's you know, obviously plays both games, but 900 00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:57.039 I always thought Pilo was his like main game, cashing that, 901 00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.320 you know, but like grinding the old thirty three hundred 902 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:03.559 of the Champions and the sixteen hundred at TCH and 903 00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:07.800 then now he's just winning truck or finishing whatever is second. 904 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.920 Yeah, because he finished second in the two hundred and 905 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.679 fifty k Invitational tournament and Paradise. 906 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.880 So raking and running the super main. Where is he 907 00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.679 sitting wild? It's twenty fifth right now of niney odd 908 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:24.360 so you go kind of crazy. 909 00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:27.840 All right, sticking with the World Series of Poker, but 910 00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:31.039 kind of shifting gears a little bit here w SP Europe. 911 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:33.920 So they announced, uh, I don't know, a couple of 912 00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:36.000 months ago, Tim and I brought it up on the podcast, 913 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.679 but they announced how two big changes to that series. 914 00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:43.719 One is they were going to be leaving Rosmudov and 915 00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:47.599 going to Prague. I believe it's the Hilton Prague, which is, 916 00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:52.679 if I'm correct, the same venue as ept prog I believe, 917 00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:56.840 So they're moving to Prague, and then they're also shifting timeframe, 918 00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:59.719 so they're not going to do the October ish window. 919 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:01.440 They're going to shift it to the front half of 920 00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:05.559 the year, and they're doing it what end of March 921 00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:07.880 into April, right at the end of March into April, 922 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:11.199 March thirty first through April twelfth, and then today or 923 00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:15.360 yesterday they announced the schedule and this also comes with 924 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:18.559 some changes. Fifteen gold bracelet events, which I think is 925 00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:21.880 what they normally do there, but the main event is 926 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:25.719 the big talking point here. So the WSP Europe Main 927 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:29.639 Event has always been ten thousand euro buying or ten 928 00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:34.079 thousand pounds when they were doing it in London, they 929 00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:38.599 dropped it to five k and they added an enormous 930 00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.079 ten million euro guarantee. Now I know that's not the 931 00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:45.039 sixty seventy million that they're getting down at the WSP 932 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:49.599 Paradise Superman event, but ten million, and according to the 933 00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.440 news store NWSP dot com, this figure surpasses any guarantee 934 00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:56.480 for a poker tournament held in Europe in twenty twenty five. 935 00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:59.960 I mean, I'm not sure that because there's been a 936 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:04.679 guarantee bigger. I mean maybe that whatever that ISPT thing, 937 00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.320 the International Stadium's Poker Tour thing. I don't even remember 938 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:07.960 what the hell they were. 939 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:11.239 Trying to the Trenton event there, But did they have 940 00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:13.760 a guarantee? They may have? Who won that Andy? 941 00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:14.719 Which one? 942 00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:17.800 The one random one they did. 943 00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:18.719 The Triton one? 944 00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:24.119 No, that's not that's called I don't know whatever. I'll 945 00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:25.719 go digg him. I thought they anyway. 946 00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:29.039 But anyway, in twenty twenty five, ten million dollars for 947 00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:33.079 a five K that's two thousand entries. That's freaking Why 948 00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:37.440 so the WSB Europe Main event, which had six hundred 949 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:38.559 and fifty entries, what. 950 00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:40.719 The one jop? They did a one drop there? 951 00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:43.199 Yeah, but did they have a guarantee? 952 00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:45.400 But you said biggest prize pool in Europe. 953 00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:48.840 No, no, it's the biggest guarantee for a poker tournament 954 00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:49.440 held in Europe. 955 00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:51.840 We'll have to get d Maybe I misspoke. 956 00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:52.920 Again, and I have no idea what I'm saying, but 957 00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.280 in my mind I said guarantee, So that's what I said. 958 00:49:56.719 --> 00:50:02.679 So yeah, so they had six hundred and fifty ish players. 959 00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.079 I think that number has been kind of around the 960 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:06.760 same maybe it has been declining a little bit. I 961 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.039 don't know exactly, but now they're going to go to 962 00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:12.280 two thousand right now. Obviously half the buy in, but 963 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:14.840 if you were just to take last year's field multiply 964 00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:16.599 it by two, that gets you up to thirteen hundred 965 00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:19.639 and fifty. And this they're guaranteeing two thousand entries. I mean, 966 00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:21.320 obviously they can miss the guarantee and it can be 967 00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.519 less entries, but I mean with the way that GG 968 00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:27.280 Poker's going, you know now owning the wsp brand, I 969 00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.000 feel like they're going to get twelve to fourteen million 970 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:33.239 in this price will easy and that's just out of 971 00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:38.039 freaking control for a for this tournament. I mean, the 972 00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:42.559 EBT progue just wrapped up like what a week or 973 00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:45.440 two ago Mountain Kerkow shout out to him, long time 974 00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:48.400 member of the industry, member of the poker community, won 975 00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:51.119 the events. I believe that had around twelve hundred entries. 976 00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:54.000 So I mean that gives you an idea of what 977 00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:57.519 WSPU Europe is trying to scale to here and they 978 00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:02.480 come out with this enormous freaking guarantee which is just nuts. 979 00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.119 It does have three starting flights I'm assuming it's gonna 980 00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:07.880 be you know, multiple re entry, all that sort of stuff. 981 00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:13.119 They also have a fifteen hundred dollars no limit hold 982 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:16.440 them European Circuit Championship that comes with a one point 983 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:18.800 five million dollar guarantee. So in that one, you're looking 984 00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:22.679 at a thousand entries based on the guarantee. They got 985 00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:24.679 you know, a bunch of different price points on here. 986 00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:28.960 They got a one K opener, a three KPLO mixed 987 00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:33.599 h five hundred dollars five hundred euro I should say colossus. 988 00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:36.679 They got a two K twenty five hundred. They got 989 00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:38.840 a ten K high roller, you know, a twenty five 990 00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:43.079 k GG million's high roller. So you know, this is 991 00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:46.880 this is a series that you know, much different than 992 00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:49.639 than w S would be Paradise, where you know, it 993 00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:51.559 was like there was one buy in sub five k 994 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:54.639 for like actual bracelet event, then everything else was just astronomical. 995 00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:58.199 I mean, this is very much geared towards like kind 996 00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:03.800 of your more average tournament player, traveling player, WSP player, 997 00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:07.559 that sort of stuff. So I feel like with this schedule, 998 00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:13.079 this series is now fully back. It's going to be wild. 999 00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:17.400 I think it's going to be enormous. So yeah, is it. 1000 00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:20.079 Going to be enormous? Why the reason I say that 1001 00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:25.800 I criticized the dates they chose, Okay, because well. 1002 00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.559 They said, f your dates, tim ten million euros guaranteed. 1003 00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:30.840 That's what they said. 1004 00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:32.880 I got it, I got it. They want to go 1005 00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:33.119 to war. 1006 00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:36.079 Money can solve a lot of problems, including scheduling. 1007 00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:40.599 Look, they went to wall with WPT win Las Vegas. 1008 00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:42.679 Now they're going to war with the Irish poke. 1009 00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:46.679 Up in and I think they're winning the WPT versus 1010 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:49.599 moved it a week later and completely being offset but 1011 00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.920 now with their main event at the front end of 1012 00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:55.239 the series, right because. 1013 00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:59.280 Irish poke up in the one of the yah y 1014 00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:03.960 a series in the world that ends April sixth. WSP 1015 00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:08.760 Europe starts March thirty first, ends April twelfth. Now, if i'm. 1016 00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:12.400 And the main event dates specifically April third, April fourth, 1017 00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:14.239 and April fifth for the starting. 1018 00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:17.320 Place, and they overlap the Irish Poker Open main event 1019 00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:20.039 that has a two point five million dollar guarantee, But 1020 00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:24.440 why wouldn't WSP Europe just offset that by a few days. 1021 00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:27.079 You know, we talk about you know, we talk about 1022 00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:31.639 giving players the most opportunity to play everything. They just 1023 00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:35.519 moved that to the second week of WSP Europe. They 1024 00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:38.519 completely fade the Irish Pokeer Open main event and all 1025 00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:41.440 the other events they have there. But as we know, 1026 00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:44.880 WSP don't give a shit about anybody else, so they 1027 00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:47.480 did this. So I am not as bullish on of 1028 00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:50.719 being a super popular event because I think a lot 1029 00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.599 of people, you know, are still going to choose the 1030 00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:56.840 Irish Prokeer Open that obviously has some history. We saw 1031 00:53:56.880 --> 00:53:59.719 a lot of I notice a lot of people on 1032 00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:04.559 so sure not base there traveling to go play the 1033 00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:06.360 Irish Prokerap And we had a couple of our players 1034 00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:10.519 play the Irish proke Op and skip our events. And 1035 00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:14.480 this is going to be another kind of forced decision 1036 00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:18.199 by the two operators. And you know, not really the 1037 00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:20.119 Irish poke up in the every days have been out forever, 1038 00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:24.639 but really four WSP forcing players to choose between you know, 1039 00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:28.159 the Irish Prokeer Open WSP Europe. Buyings are different, but 1040 00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:33.360 the biggest issue is that conflicting main event. And look, 1041 00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:34.960 you're going to look at it and say, okay, I 1042 00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:38.559 can play a five K ten mil or I can 1043 00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:41.679 play an eleven hundred two and a half mil. You 1044 00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:45.320 know there is an overlapping players there. Whether you know 1045 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:48.519 how many, I don't know, but still I just don't. 1046 00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:51.360 I just don't like that they had the whole April's 1047 00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:53.960 calendar open. They just could have moved it a week 1048 00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:59.679 later and completely dominated the entire playa pol. You could 1049 00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:02.000 have got all all of Europe playing just by moving 1050 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:02.679 in a week later. 1051 00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:06.280 That's I mean, listen, I I don't disagree with you 1052 00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:08.440 that I would love for everyone to play nice. You know, 1053 00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:11.840 I don't think the WSB really has to here. Ws 1054 00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:13.679 B is the NFL. They can do whatever the hell 1055 00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:17.079 they want. I'm sorry, but they're the biggest brand and 1056 00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:18.679 they can do whatever that. They can drop the hammer 1057 00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:19.280 if they want to. 1058 00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:21.800 What they're not gonna win, then they'll think about it. 1059 00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:24.480 Around now with Bahamas, think about how many people are trying. 1060 00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:26.360 What do you mean with right now? With Bahamas? They 1061 00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:28.239 just got seventy two plus million dollars the price, But 1062 00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:29.920 how can you say they're not gonna win. They're gonna win. 1063 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:30.880 Maybe they're gonna win. 1064 00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:32.280 Think of all the players that are here. 1065 00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:35.639 You know who hurts the WPT hurts. Sure, they're main 1066 00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.159 event dropped more than five hundred entries this year. The 1067 00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:40.159 Irish poke Gropen is likely gonna be the one that 1068 00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:41.760 hurts here, not the ws B Europe. 1069 00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:41.960 Yeah. 1070 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.760 Yeah, But I'm trying to say is that if if 1071 00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:48.320 they did their event a different time, they would get 1072 00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:51.920 potentially ninety five percent of the play a pool instead 1073 00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:52.679 of sixty percent. 1074 00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:57.199 Yeah, listen, I don't disagree with you. It would be lovely, Listen. 1075 00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:59.000 It would have been lovely if like, for example, if 1076 00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:01.719 I was thinking about going to play these events, I 1077 00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:04.400 could go to Europe, I could go to Ireland, I 1078 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:06.800 could fire that. I could hop on over to Prague. 1079 00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:08.639 I could fire that, and then I could head home, 1080 00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:12.199 make a little swing out of the whole thing. Right now, Unfortunately, 1081 00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:14.679 that's not how it's gonna be personally. If I was 1082 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.239 the rspoke Rope and I would move my event, okay, 1083 00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:20.400 just like as I sent a text message and had 1084 00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.920 a little conversation with a friend of the podcast, Matt Savage, 1085 00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:25.400 I would have moved the WPT World Championship dates. I 1086 00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.360 would have shifted it one day further and I would 1087 00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.000 have tried to get everyone coming back from the Bahamas 1088 00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:32.719 to fire that final flight, Like that's what I would 1089 00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.119 have done, And yes, it's not ideal, and you do 1090 00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:39.039 have to kind of, you know, back off, and you 1091 00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:40.639 know in a way like you kind of have to 1092 00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:42.800 be the bigger person here, Like you can't just be like, 1093 00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:44.599 well I'm not moving because you're not moving, and then 1094 00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:47.440 it's just this game of chicken and no one's gonna 1095 00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:49.679 win there. So like, listen, the WSP's gonna do what 1096 00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:52.320 the WSPEED does. They are the NFL of the industry, 1097 00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:54.400 you know, whether we like it or not. They are 1098 00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:56.719 the biggest and the best brand and that's where a 1099 00:56:56.760 --> 00:56:58.639 lot of the value is and the biggest tournaments and 1100 00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:00.679 that's what everyone knows and blah blah blah blah. That's 1101 00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:03.719 we all have to just understand that. So you just 1102 00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:06.119 have to kind of shift and you have to be 1103 00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:08.199 willing to shift. I mean you know that more importantly 1104 00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:10.400 than anyone because you're constantly like, well, if this changes, 1105 00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:12.440 I'm going to change it whatever, like we could. I'm 1106 00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:14.960 constantly trying to tell you times to like stand your 1107 00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:17.639 ground and you're not, and you're always moving shit around. 1108 00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:19.960 So you know, like if if if you were in 1109 00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:22.079 charge of the Irish Poker Open here, you would probably 1110 00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.320 say like, well, we got to move like we like, 1111 00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:28.280 I'm Irish is too big for it to just get 1112 00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:32.800 up Listen, I'm not. First of all, we can say 1113 00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:35.679 this here on this podcast. We have no idea if 1114 00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:38.480 like you know, the Irish Poker Open or any venue 1115 00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:41.719 and operator whatever has convention space locked in, you know, 1116 00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.599 events space, all that. It's It's understandably it can be 1117 00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:46.519 a logistical nightmare if you have to move stuff, and 1118 00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:49.280 sometimes it's not even possible, right, you know, Like we 1119 00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:50.639 talk at times like well why don't they do the 1120 00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:53.079 WPT World Championship earlier or whatever, But it's like you 1121 00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:55.280 can't because there's that big Amazon conference or whatever in 1122 00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:57.800 Las Vegas. It takes up basically the entire city. So like, 1123 00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.000 you know, we get it. That said, I would still 1124 00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:03.920 try try. I would I would exhaust all avenues to 1125 00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:06.480 make it happen because I think at the end of 1126 00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:10.480 the day, with with what we're seeing now, and we're 1127 00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:12.280 going to get to some of this, you know in 1128 00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:15.159 a second. But you know, with what we're seeing now 1129 00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:21.000 is GG Poker owns the Dobis Ape, the biggest Brandon 1130 00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:25.880 poker and they are just swinging left, right and center, 1131 00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:30.239 so like you know, you can it's like just you 1132 00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:32.199 got to start bobbing and weaving like that. Everyone else 1133 00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:33.679 just has to start bobbing and weaving. That's that's just 1134 00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:36.719 how it has to be. Okay, because these guys are 1135 00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.639 in town every which place in the world and they're 1136 00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:41.840 just they're dropping the hammer. So we we you know, 1137 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:44.559 including the PGT, we got to kind of just work 1138 00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:46.840 around it, right, especially if they're going to be continuing 1139 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:50.840 to throw these huge guarantees at things sixty million dollars 1140 00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.920 in the Bahamas, you got ten million here, like they're 1141 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:55.280 swinging for the fences. 1142 00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:56.079 Yeah. 1143 00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:59.119 So, I mean you even see things like, you know, 1144 00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:03.119 for one person, David Baker was like, WUROP schedule looks great. Awesome, 1145 00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:05.239 I'm a fan, Like it sounds like he's like gonna go. 1146 00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:07.639 I didn't see David Baker saying that about the Irish 1147 00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:11.199 proke open. Yeah, so it's like it's I mean, and 1148 00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:13.159 I know that's obviously super small. Samul Sizes is one 1149 00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:14.760 person that I happened to see say something on social 1150 00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.920 media like but yeah. 1151 00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:21.119 This is really up time. I just randomly searched like 1152 00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:25.920 flights to Dublin from Vegas surprisingly cheap, because I was like, 1153 00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:27.559 that'd always be pretty cool to go to Isle. 1154 00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:29.559 I've always wanted to go to the Irish Proke for sure. 1155 00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:32.239 Well that's not better at all. 1156 00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:34.440 Do you think they would, uh, you know, maybe want 1157 00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:36.639 daily podcasts from the Icehbrooke group. 1158 00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:40.719 I mean, I think you should email them and they 1159 00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:43.280 can sponsor this podcast if they pay for some of 1160 00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:45.599 our stuff. I'm in, We're totally in. Let's go send 1161 00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:47.559 out to a bunch of two dumb Americans over there 1162 00:59:48.039 --> 00:59:53.360 and we'll make it happen. Yeah, but you're basically American now, sure, yeah, 1163 00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:55.480 but yeah, let's say yes. I just I think that 1164 00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:57.440 you just have to again, I think you have with 1165 00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:00.480 what the ws AP is doing, you know, I think 1166 01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:04.000 you just have to be willing to move things around, 1167 01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:06.480 like you just have to be flexible and listen, it sucks. 1168 01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:08.239 It sucks to move. I get it. We've had to 1169 01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:09.199 move stuff on the PGT. 1170 01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:09.480 You know. 1171 01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:10.719 You and I were just talking about with some of 1172 01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:12.719 our events the other day, like, you know, it's just 1173 01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:15.119 it's frustrating to constantly move and blah blah blah. But 1174 01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:18.559 I mean, unless now, the other option is like you 1175 01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:21.320 just have to basically fight fire with fire, and like, 1176 01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:24.719 I mean the best example is as WPT tried to 1177 01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:27.119 do it when they went to forty million on their guarantee. 1178 01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:29.719 They missed. Now that event doesn't have a guarantee. So 1179 01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:32.679 it's like, if you're willing to go toe to toe 1180 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:36.440 with the World Series of Poker right and like constantly 1181 01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:38.880 put your neck on the line, your financial neck on 1182 01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:40.880 the line because you know that's going to be large 1183 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:43.320 guarantees and whatnot, then Okay, I guess if that's what 1184 01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:45.480 you want to do, then go right ahead. But other 1185 01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:48.519 than that, you know, I think we just got to 1186 01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:50.480 kind of work around you know, I say we because 1187 01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:52.360 we obviously do the PGT stuff, so you know, we 1188 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:56.000 got to kind of work around what seems like a 1189 01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:58.079 new era for the WACIPI and it's here to stay. 1190 01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:02.400 So yeah, looking listen, I'm also not saying like like 1191 01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:05.079 Irish poke rope and should not like move to like October, 1192 01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:06.960 Like you know, it's just like we kind of if 1193 01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:10.159 they can again, if they can, I know, some things 1194 01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:12.920 might be locked in and it's just impossible, but you know, 1195 01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:14.400 shifted a day or two here. 1196 01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:17.320 When did you say, the main event in Europe starts 1197 01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:24.159 the third, yes, so day two of the Irish pok 1198 01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:28.719 Group and is April fourth, so you can probably you know, 1199 01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:31.719 cash the Irish poke up and knowing Europe, I haven't 1200 01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:34.400 spent much time there, but it's probably I don't know, 1201 01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:37.800 probably get on a flight and be in Prague in 1202 01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:40.800 an hour, so you could essentially still play both and 1203 01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:43.199 just play like one of the later flights for WSP 1204 01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:48.800 Europe and like looking at their schedule. The only thing 1205 01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:52.360 after that that has a big guarantee is this two 1206 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:56.480 hundred See this is right, apparently the Minish the Mini 1207 01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:59.760 Irish Open is a two hundred and fifty dollars million 1208 01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:00.719 dollar like guarantee. 1209 01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:02.199 I was like, does this thing have like is this 1210 01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:04.000 thing being played online? Like what the hell is this 1211 01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:05.039 turn they have? 1212 01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:06.920 Look, they have online satellites, you know. 1213 01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:09.199 Because their partnered with poker Stars for the Irish. 1214 01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:11.840 You know what, these guys will be fine, they'll make 1215 01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:13.760 they guarantee, just won't be as big as next year 1216 01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:17.360 as as this year. Sorry, uh so they'll be fine. 1217 01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:20.639 I will that, you know for dogs and young pops. 1218 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:26.119 I don't know what that is, but I. 1219 01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:28.079 I will also say that. You know, in this shout 1220 01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:30.440 up producer Rich Ryan, he's always kind of hammering this 1221 01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:33.119 this point home. But you know, the Irish Poker Open, 1222 01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:37.599 while it does have a bit of international fame and 1223 01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:40.960 buzz to it, I mean it really is a regional 1224 01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:42.840 slash local poker t yeah. 1225 01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:43.119 Yeah. 1226 01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:47.880 And and the w SP, well WSP Europe specifically, but 1227 01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:49.960 the w SP brand, I mean that is like pretty 1228 01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:56.559 much only an international like global brand, right, So you know, 1229 01:02:56.800 --> 01:02:59.800 I think they kind of attract different player pools in 1230 01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:02.360 a so you know, I think that I think that 1231 01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:05.639 both will be okay. You know, it's not fun having 1232 01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:07.719 this dropped on you if you are the Irish Proke Rope, 1233 01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:09.719 and of course, like it's not fun, you're you're probably 1234 01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:13.599 a little bit more uneasy about having to hit your guarantee. 1235 01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:16.840 But I still think that they'll hit it. But I 1236 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:18.599 think the overall point, like what you're trying to make 1237 01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:21.039 is you would love people to go they run deep 1238 01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:23.159 in the Irish Proke Grope main event, maybe they cash 1239 01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:25.960 for thirty K, they hop on over, they fire five 1240 01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:28.119 bolts in the WSP Europe. Male Like, that's just kind 1241 01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:29.760 of what we all want to see, right, and what 1242 01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:33.119 we want to experience. So but but you know, we'll see. 1243 01:03:33.159 --> 01:03:36.679 I mean, there's a crap ton of poker. It's there's 1244 01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:39.000 poker everywhere, you know. You and I aren't going to 1245 01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:42.000 talk about EPT Prog, but that thing's been running and 1246 01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:44.800 doing some big numbers over there. So yeah, there's a 1247 01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:47.039 lot to be had, and it's it's very interesting now 1248 01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:50.800 to see how this landscape unfolds again with it's been 1249 01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:54.039 a little over a year now since GG Poker acquired 1250 01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:57.599 the WSP brand, and the swings that they are taking 1251 01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:03.000 are highly evident, like they are high. They're headlining moves, 1252 01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:05.280 and we are all seeing in that latest one today 1253 01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:07.559 or one of the latest ones today because we're aout 1254 01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:09.840 to talking about. The other one is that they dropped 1255 01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:13.960 this WSP Europe schedule and it has this five five 1256 01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:18.840 k euro ten million dollar guaranteed main event, which is 1257 01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:21.639 freaking crazy. So as far as I'm concerned, WSP Euver 1258 01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:24.320 is freaking back, okay, and I'm happy to see it 1259 01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:27.559 because I love doubs B Europe. It was the prestigious 1260 01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:32.920 brother of the WSP. All Right. The other piece of 1261 01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:36.400 the news out of the WSP, WSP player of the year, 1262 01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:40.119 everyone's been yelling, screaming, doing everything to be like, can 1263 01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:42.039 we do prizes for the WSP Player of the Year, 1264 01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:44.719 What the heck are we doing? Well, WSP today came 1265 01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:48.239 out and said there will be a one million dollar 1266 01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:52.639 total prize pool for the twenty twenty six WSP Player 1267 01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:57.239 of the Year race. The race does include WSP Europe, 1268 01:04:57.280 --> 01:05:01.599 which we just talked about, It includes the flagship WSOP 1269 01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:06.480 Summer in Las Vegas, and it also includes WSP Paradise. 1270 01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:10.559 So going back to that three series approach back when 1271 01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:12.920 they had Europe, the Summer in Vegas, and then they 1272 01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:18.320 had b Asia Pacific RIPWSP Asia Pacific. So now they're 1273 01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:23.440 doing all three of these. Per the press release, the 1274 01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:26.559 eventual Player of the Year winner will claim and enhanced 1275 01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:30.679 one hundred KWSP Paradise package with a variety of other 1276 01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:34.280 WSP packages and or tickets awarded to the top one 1277 01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:38.199 hundred players on the leaderboard at the conclusion of the season. 1278 01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:41.239 So if you head on over to WSP dot com, 1279 01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:43.559 they have a whole landing page dedicated to well, they 1280 01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:45.800 have a whole landing page dedicated to one WSP Europ 1281 01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:47.599 which Tim and I just talked about. They also have 1282 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:49.400 a landing page dedicated to the new Player of the 1283 01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:52.079 Year stuff. They have all the prizes listed on there, 1284 01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:54.880 the details, They have past POY winners listed there. They 1285 01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:57.679 have a calculator for the new WSP Player of the 1286 01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:00.559 Year points calculator, so they have that all there. It 1287 01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:02.280 does say that first place is going to get the 1288 01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:05.119 hundre K Paradise package plus the POI title, but then 1289 01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:07.000 it also says second and third are also going to 1290 01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:09.679 get a hundre K Paradise package, which is interesting. That's 1291 01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:14.280 the same. Then four through fifteenth are listed to get 1292 01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:18.480 a thirty K Super Main Event package to WSIP Paradise. 1293 01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:22.000 Sixteenth through fiftieth are going to get a five K 1294 01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:25.400 Circuit Championship package which takes place at WISP Paradise, and 1295 01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:28.800 then one of those players in that group will be 1296 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:31.920 randomly drawn to win a thirty K Super Main Event 1297 01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:35.960 package upgrade, and then fifty first through one hundredth get 1298 01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:40.079 two and a half K Circuit Championship ticket, and then 1299 01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:43.119 randomly six players will be drawn from that group to 1300 01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:46.760 get a five K package instead. So all of the 1301 01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:50.159 million dollars that are being given outs are awarded via 1302 01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:54.400 do WSP Paradise packages, which you know, kind of again 1303 01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:58.440 going back to my original thought exercise of like what's 1304 01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:02.119 the goal here, what's the plan here? To me, this 1305 01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:05.800 is another piece of evidence that they could just be 1306 01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:11.039 pushing everything to Dobspy Paradise. Yeah, so again, it's just 1307 01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:13.199 it's just very interesting to see how it's all going. 1308 01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:13.559 Now. 1309 01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:17.039 I would assume I couldn't find it in there. But 1310 01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:21.760 because the player of the erace includes WSB Paradise, all 1311 01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:24.199 these packages should apply for twenty twenty seven, would be 1312 01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:29.880 my guess. So there's no prize money next year because 1313 01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:33.079 how can you award a package? Good point, right, it 1314 01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:34.480 has the following year. 1315 01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:35.679 Yeah, you're right. 1316 01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:38.880 I'm not sure how this changes things. Like let's I mean, 1317 01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:41.320 we already talked about David Baker, like he's someone who 1318 01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:44.159 if you guys listen to his podcast with Adam Schwartz 1319 01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:47.480 Gamble Up the Gamble Up Pod, highly encourage you guys 1320 01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:49.480 to go check that out. But you know, he talked 1321 01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:51.440 about how he kind of hates what they're doing with 1322 01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:55.199 the Dovaspy Paradise stuff, right, but now he said today 1323 01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:57.920 seeing the WSP Europe schedule that he likes that, and 1324 01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:00.000 he seems like he's likely going to make the trips. 1325 01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:06.079 So let's say hypothetically Baker goes to Europe has a 1326 01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:08.880 great run. Does his normal thing in the summer has 1327 01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:11.119 a good run? Is he now going to chase Player 1328 01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:13.559 of the Year and go to Paradise which he originally 1329 01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:14.360 didn't really want to do? 1330 01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:14.920 Like? 1331 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:18.800 So does that switch that whole pathway up and kind 1332 01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:21.960 of drive more people down to Paradise? Who knows? I mean, 1333 01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:24.760 I guess we'll see how it all unfolds, but it 1334 01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:27.520 could be interesting to see how that goes. What do 1335 01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:29.199 you got thoughts here on Player of the Year. 1336 01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:33.920 I should ask producer Rich to dig up some old 1337 01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:38.359 audio files. But I'm said something very similar to this, 1338 01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:41.119 you know, for Player of the Year, where they could 1339 01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:43.279 I didn't say a million dollars, I said something a 1340 01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:46.880 lot smaller. Bet you could basically change the Vegas Player 1341 01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:48.359 of the Year that maybe it's a half a million 1342 01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:53.359 dollar prize bowl that awards seats or tickets or packages 1343 01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:55.880 into Paradise if Paradise is still going to be a thing. 1344 01:08:56.560 --> 01:09:00.479 So obviously they listen to me made a little better. No, 1345 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:02.800 But I do like it because you know, like we've 1346 01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:04.359 kind of touched on. All their eggs are in the 1347 01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:08.600 paradise basket right now. I think we can both assume 1348 01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:10.680 that they're going to try and go bigger and better 1349 01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:14.880 every year down there. So for twenty twenty seven, maybe 1350 01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:18.159 we do see you know, seventy five eighty million guaranteed 1351 01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:22.279 and getting as many people down there in some capacity 1352 01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:27.680 is definitely a plus four, you know, ensuring they can 1353 01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:32.000 hit that big guarantee. So you know, people are going 1354 01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:34.000 to say, we saw a tweet I think from Eric 1355 01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:37.560 Baldwin saying, you know this, this is not very interesting. 1356 01:09:37.640 --> 01:09:40.800 We saw something from Michael Munchek, who's a big, you know, 1357 01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:43.920 Player of the Year chaser, that you know, this is tough. 1358 01:09:43.960 --> 01:09:48.079 This makes it a lot tougher when you add Europe. 1359 01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:52.479 You know, this really does only suit five, six, seven, 1360 01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:53.640 eight players now. 1361 01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:58.279 Five I think it suits one. His name is Sean Deep. 1362 01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:00.560 No overt SHONDI Gran. 1363 01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:04.039 I think the thing is the thing is with Daniel. 1364 01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:07.800 The thing is with Daniel is that it's it's just 1365 01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:10.399 dependent on if he goes to Europe. I mean, I 1366 01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:11.680 don't I don't know if he's gonna go. 1367 01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:16.640 Look the way he's been unattending our events. I think 1368 01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:18.079 he's going to be basically only. 1369 01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:21.920 Okay, but if you go back to the the another 1370 01:10:22.239 --> 01:10:24.560 another r I P here, but the the w SP 1371 01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:27.600 docu series but r I P. But you know, he 1372 01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:33.800 talked in that about trying to have a kid and 1373 01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:35.640 start a family and do all that sort of stuff. 1374 01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:38.359 So like you know, when you're when you're moving to 1375 01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:40.039 that stage of your life. I mean you and I 1376 01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:42.800 know you can't just go gallivanting around Europe for a 1377 01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:45.520 fucking week and a half, Like it's just hard. So 1378 01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:48.800 you know, I think that you know where Sean Deep. 1379 01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:51.479 You know, Shan Deep already has his kids like that, 1380 01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:53.680 you know they're old, not not like super old, but 1381 01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:56.960 you know they're older, and and the DOUBSIP is his thing, 1382 01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:59.159 and he doesn't travel to other stuff or really play 1383 01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:02.239 other stuff outside of DOUBISP events. You know, he's always 1384 01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:04.920 gone to Europe. So now, you know, I think that 1385 01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:08.439 this really just does benefit Sean Deep. And these tournaments 1386 01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:11.399 for WSP Europe that we talked about. You know, maybe 1387 01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:13.960 the stuff in the Bahamas is a little bit pricey 1388 01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:16.199 for Sean Deep just because you know, not that he 1389 01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:18.479 can't compete in those fields. I certainly think he can. 1390 01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:20.279 I've just kind of wondered why he hasn't played all 1391 01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:22.880 the super big buy and stuff, you know, but he's 1392 01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:25.199 going to kind of value hunt, I guess. And you 1393 01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:27.159 know he skipped some of the bigger stuff in the 1394 01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:31.159 in the ws AP uh you know, areas you know 1395 01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:34.800 in recent years, but the WAP Europe stuff, I mean, 1396 01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:37.760 this is shandeb b all over it, right, So I 1397 01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:39.159 think it certainly favors him. 1398 01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:43.319 He's obviously the the the number one favorite. You know, 1399 01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:46.000 you do have to still throw in, you still have 1400 01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:48.920 to mention the grand You have to mention Benny Glaza. 1401 01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:52.680 You know, you could mention Phil Sternheimer. You could throw 1402 01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:59.399 in you know, Steven Shouldwick possibly you know Seth Davies, 1403 01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:03.159 those kind of names. So yeah, it does shrink the list, 1404 01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:08.359 you know, quite significantly when it comes to Player of 1405 01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:10.880 the Year. And look, maybe they should have just kept 1406 01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:14.439 it serious specific or add a few more. Remember that year, 1407 01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:16.079 that one of the last years at the Rio where 1408 01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:19.399 they did like the Velo no limit hold the Player 1409 01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:21.520 of the Year, they did like the Midsteaks. You can 1410 01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:23.239 still do a lot of that stuff, I think, adding 1411 01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:25.960 you know, we see it on the PGT People love leaderboards, 1412 01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:31.199 people love chasing trophies that aren't directly tied to winning 1413 01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:33.560 a tournament. So you could add a bunch of this 1414 01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:37.119 and really gamify, you know, everything with the World Series. 1415 01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:40.600 You could have the leader boards at different different buying levels, 1416 01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:43.239 different games, different stops. You could do a lot of 1417 01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:45.880 different things to really you know, and still spend the 1418 01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:49.720 same amount of money, just you know, split the prizes up. 1419 01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:52.600 You know, maybe you're reserving those two extra big one 1420 01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:55.439 hundred k ones for and you split them up and 1421 01:12:55.479 --> 01:12:57.239 do them for the no limit leader boards and the 1422 01:12:57.239 --> 01:13:01.000 midstakes and stuff. But either way that they've given out 1423 01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.840 a million dollars to play, as you kind of really 1424 01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:06.640 complain about free money. 1425 01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:09.000 And then also in the news release, we did see 1426 01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:11.079 it was down towards the bottom, but it's in there. 1427 01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:14.359 The fifty seventh annual WSOP, so that's next year's WSOP. 1428 01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:17.760 The dates were announced May twenty sixth through July fifteenth, 1429 01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:20.760 and then WSP Paradise dates for twenty twenty six were 1430 01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:26.199 also announced December first through eighteen. So for anyone out 1431 01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:30.039 there listening who likes to plan well in advance, obviously 1432 01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:33.239 you two, mister PGT Commissioner, those dates are out. 1433 01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:35.520 So if I have been funny that everyone was like 1434 01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:39.479 so ecstatic about WSP Vegas dates. They're the same every year, yeah, 1435 01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:43.399 but everyone you know how people they just. 1436 01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:45.600 Want to see it in paper. They want to see 1437 01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:48.000 it announced, like you know, like that's just it's the 1438 01:13:48.039 --> 01:13:51.640 same with the schedule. Like the schedule is if you're 1439 01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:55.199 coming out to Vegas, if you're like a professional player, 1440 01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:57.119 somebody's going to put in a high volume. I mean, 1441 01:13:57.159 --> 01:14:00.319 the schedule is going to be largely the same. Maybe 1442 01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.800 there's like maybe the Monster Stack is like shifted a 1443 01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:05.760 week or two like here or there. But if again, 1444 01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:07.800 if you're somebody who's coming out for the full six 1445 01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:10.159 to seven weeks, what do you care what the actual 1446 01:14:10.159 --> 01:14:12.479 schedule is. But like people just want to see it 1447 01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:15.079 in print, Like just save up your three hundred k 1448 01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:17.920 or whatever the hell you need in buy ins, book 1449 01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:20.680 your airbnb, and then let's go. Cause it's like the 1450 01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:22.640 schedule is going to be there, you know, like that 1451 01:14:22.640 --> 01:14:24.880 that's just how it is. You know, early July is 1452 01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:26.920 gonna be theasp ma an event, Like you know that 1453 01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:29.720 that's just how it is. So again, you might get 1454 01:14:29.960 --> 01:14:32.479 some shifts here there and some stuff. You know, sometimes 1455 01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:35.359 they might shift like one of those events that happened 1456 01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:36.960 at the beginning of the series last year, they kind 1457 01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:38.439 of put it towards the end, and then they put 1458 01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:40.000 some at the end towards the beginning. Like maybe they 1459 01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:41.720 do a little bit of that, but for the for 1460 01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:44.800 the most part, the schedule is largely the same every 1461 01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:48.359 single year. So so yeah, I just always think it's funny, 1462 01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:50.439 like you as people kind of like, oh my gosh, 1463 01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:52.800 it's out, it's out. It's out. Yeah, well it's out. 1464 01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:55.159 And then I did just want to touch on uh 1465 01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:58.319 cause again it's been a little bit over a year 1466 01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:01.640 now since GG poker acquired the WSP and just some 1467 01:15:01.680 --> 01:15:05.760 of the highlights that we've seen under GG Poker's ownership. 1468 01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:10.359 You know, right now we've got the WSP plus app 1469 01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:14.520 is in Las Vegas. It was used here last year. 1470 01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:17.399 I personally thought that it was awesome other than the 1471 01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:20.520 fact that the font size was astronomical, but other than that, 1472 01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:25.279 it was good. And I think that's a decent win 1473 01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:27.640 because you know, we know how hard it is to 1474 01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:30.760 get anything kind of approved in a gaming space here 1475 01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:33.359 in Nevada and here in the US it tends to 1476 01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:36.079 be a nightmare, but gg poker in the WSP, we're 1477 01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:38.039 able to get that done. So that's a big win. 1478 01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:41.920 The WASP plus app. Now another thing you know that 1479 01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:43.680 we didn't talk about, but it did come out. The 1480 01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:47.279 twenty twenty six WSP circuit schedule is out. It's available 1481 01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:50.720 on WASP dot com. But included in that news is 1482 01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:53.760 that the WSP plus app is going to be fully 1483 01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:57.760 utilized at WSP circuit stops in twenty twenty six. So 1484 01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:02.399 that's pretty cool and another big step in the right direction. 1485 01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:05.520 There you've got the super main event is, as I said, 1486 01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:08.159 that thing is now a behemoth. It is a real force. 1487 01:16:08.479 --> 01:16:10.439 It looks like it is here to stay. And if 1488 01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:14.039 they keep putting resources behind it like they seem like 1489 01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:16.800 they are, I mean, this thing could just continue to 1490 01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:21.399 go up, up and up. So they got that also 1491 01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:23.720 a change, and you know a lot of people were complaining. 1492 01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:25.880 You know a lot of the more international players, traveling 1493 01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:27.720 players are like, I don't want to go to Rosbodov 1494 01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:30.520 for WSP Europe. I don't like it there, all that 1495 01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:33.680 sort of stuff. Well, WSB is moving WSP Europe out 1496 01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:37.680 of Rosbudov, they put it in Prague, and they moved 1497 01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:39.600 it to a different part of the year, and the 1498 01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:44.600 schedule as of today looks pretty freaking awesome. And then 1499 01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:48.239 also today announced they got a million dollars in prizes 1500 01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:51.960 for the WSP Player of the ear Race. So you know, 1501 01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:55.279 all those things have happened in about a year's time, 1502 01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:58.439 just over a year's time now, you know, with Gigi's 1503 01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:02.239 ownership of the w SP. So it's a brand that 1504 01:17:02.319 --> 01:17:06.039 I think many would would agree was pretty stale and 1505 01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:10.560 stagnant for quite some time. But it definitely looks like 1506 01:17:10.640 --> 01:17:14.840 GG Poker is putting its fingerprints all over this thing 1507 01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:19.359 and trying to improve it as much as possible and 1508 01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:23.600 really just set it apart from everything else, as if 1509 01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:25.760 it wasn't already set apart from everything else. I mean, 1510 01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:28.119 I've always believed that, I've always said the WSB is 1511 01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:33.000 the NFL of poker, and now with w or sorry, 1512 01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:35.760 with GG Poker excuse me, you know, owning it and 1513 01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:37.640 doing what they want to do with it, it just 1514 01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:41.000 seems like there is no end in sight. So all 1515 01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:43.640 that stuff has happened in a year, and who the 1516 01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:45.159 heck knows where it's going to go from here, you 1517 01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:47.760 know who else. Who knows what else they have, you know, 1518 01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:50.680 coming down the pipeline. I would imagine many things. One 1519 01:17:50.680 --> 01:17:53.199 of the things that I'm selfishly most interested in is 1520 01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:55.640 like what they can do with the ws AP dot 1521 01:17:55.720 --> 01:17:58.279 com online platform here in the stage, which I don't 1522 01:17:58.319 --> 01:17:59.960 think that they've really touched it all. 1523 01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:02.920 I can yeah, right, yeah, we. 1524 01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:05.279 Don't know, like what's the contract with you know, I 1525 01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:07.640 think it's eight eight poker that's currently operating at eating 1526 01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:10.359 It's like, what's the deal there? But you know, eventually 1527 01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:13.319 like that would be great to see. So we'll see 1528 01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:17.520 if if stuff happens there. But that's obviously you know, TBD. 1529 01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:20.359 But overall, I would say that I would have to 1530 01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:23.479 give them an a on the on the first year 1531 01:18:23.560 --> 01:18:25.199 under ownership. I don't see how you can. 1532 01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:27.199 Agreed. 1533 01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:30.840 Agreed, Wow, I get an agreed from Tim. There you go, man, 1534 01:18:30.840 --> 01:18:36.840 in many words over there, all right, WPT World Championship 1535 01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:41.560 that is happening right now here in Las Vegas. I 1536 01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:44.199 guess a couple quick highlights you had. Eric Baldwin opened 1537 01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:46.920 the series with a win in the eight hundred dollars 1538 01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:52.479 buying million dollars guaranteed opening event or early event, or 1539 01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:55.479 whatever the heck you want to call it. Baldwin taking 1540 01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:58.479 home almost two one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for 1541 01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:02.039 the win. There almost three thousand entries in that thing 1542 01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:06.880 you had the WPT Prime Championship. It increased its field 1543 01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:10.319 size by more than two hundred players. This tournament, to 1544 01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:12.239 me and Tim and I are going to talk about 1545 01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:14.000 it a little bit more in a second, but this 1546 01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:19.760 tournament to me is for me personally, is the second 1547 01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:24.239 best tournament in the world. That's what I'm gonna say. 1548 01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:28.279 That's my tim. It had eight hundred and seventy six entries. 1549 01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:31.159 Last year had nine, six hundred and seventy. There are 1550 01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:33.479 six players remaining for the final table. They got to 1551 01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:35.680 the final six. They're going to delay them for a 1552 01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:38.560 little bit. They will play that final table on December twentieth. 1553 01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:42.039 That will be live streamed, I believe, so you guys 1554 01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:45.439 can watch it when that happens. Steven Song, who won 1555 01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:49.199 this event once before, he finished eighteenth. Jeremy Becker, friend 1556 01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:53.000 of the pod, shout out Jeremy, he got nineteenth. Both 1557 01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:55.800 of them took fifty three thousand dollars. I didn't see 1558 01:19:55.800 --> 01:19:58.000 how song busted, but I sure as hell saw how 1559 01:19:58.079 --> 01:20:01.920 Jeremy busted. And it was not fun. Guy jammed the button, 1560 01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:05.960 I believe. With Queen eight, Jeremy called big blind with 1561 01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:08.319 Ace King and the guy flo up in eight and 1562 01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:13.000 that was that. The WPT World Championship ten K main event. 1563 01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:16.119 The numbers are in in terms of the field size. 1564 01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:20.199 You had what was it, eighteen hundred and sixty five 1565 01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:23.119 entries in this one, three starting flights in this tournament 1566 01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:25.000 freeze out per flight, so you can be in for 1567 01:20:25.079 --> 01:20:28.600 a max of three bullets. It's ten thousand, four hundred 1568 01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:31.319 dollars on the buy in, something that I absolutely freaking 1569 01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:33.840 hate with with WPT and wind do can you just 1570 01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:35.840 make it ten k? Like can we just do that? 1571 01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:38.239 Like what are we doing? Or it should be ten 1572 01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:42.319 thousand plus six hundred, not this six, not this ninety 1573 01:20:42.600 --> 01:20:45.039 or ten thy four hundred, and then only like ninety 1574 01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:46.880 six or ninety one hundred goes into the prize bowl. 1575 01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:51.319 It's just making it difficult for us. But that field 1576 01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:54.399 size eighteen hundred and sixty five entries is down from 1577 01:20:54.479 --> 01:20:58.000 last year five hundred and twenty six, which is a 1578 01:20:58.199 --> 01:21:01.560 pretty big draw. I mean, obviously it dropped last year 1579 01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:06.000 because they didn't have the guarantee, right, I mean this 1580 01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:11.199 year it definitely seems like I mean, if I'm gonna say, 1581 01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:15.800 there's the two biggest factors, one no guarantee and two 1582 01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:19.640 ws be paradise, those have to be the two biggest factors. 1583 01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:21.880 Like if you're like there's probably other factors, yes, but 1584 01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:23.239 in terms of like a pie chart, I mean, what 1585 01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:23.960 do you think. 1586 01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:27.800 Yeah, you could also throw in the the seats they 1587 01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:31.000 were giving out last yea in the club WBT free roll. 1588 01:21:31.159 --> 01:21:34.239 Oh true, true. I mean the lot of satellites were awesome, 1589 01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:36.359 Like they gave out a ton of those, but but 1590 01:21:36.399 --> 01:21:37.520 they had what one hundred or. 1591 01:21:37.760 --> 01:21:40.640 Well there's one hundred. Yeah, there's a hundred seats given 1592 01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:42.159 out in the in the frei roll. 1593 01:21:43.399 --> 01:21:45.439 Knowing that, weren't they doing some stuff with the Mystery 1594 01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:47.479 quest for the second chance. 1595 01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:51.479 Drawing not to the same level. So if you're playing that, 1596 01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:53.680 or you're on the fringe of playing the main event, 1597 01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:57.800 hearing there's one hundred fish maybeing one of them winning 1598 01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:00.439 a seat to get in, it does kind of swing, 1599 01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:03.880 you know, swing you to potentially jumping in. So obviously 1600 01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:06.840 you remove the hundred seats, maybe you remove another fifty 1601 01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:09.680 players that were on the fence because of that. You know, 1602 01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:11.680 it's it's a factor. It's a small one, but it's 1603 01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:12.319 still a factor. 1604 01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:15.680 Yeah about that mystery question. You know, I tried to 1605 01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:16.840 fire a couple of flights. 1606 01:22:17.159 --> 01:22:17.840 Yeah, I did. 1607 01:22:18.239 --> 01:22:20.680 I mean, maybe I'm just too much of an old 1608 01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:22.479 man now who doesn't know what he's doing. But I 1609 01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:24.840 got on to Club to PT Gold, I couldn't figure 1610 01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:26.439 it out within five seconds and I gave up. So 1611 01:22:26.479 --> 01:22:27.079 I was all for it. 1612 01:22:27.159 --> 01:22:30.600 I was just I fired to the first two flights, 1613 01:22:30.840 --> 01:22:33.439 and then I realized that not only did I have 1614 01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:36.560 to survive the first the five percent of that flight, 1615 01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:38.039 I then had to make the five percent of the 1616 01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:41.439 next flight. When every field combines. It seemed very tough, 1617 01:22:42.479 --> 01:22:47.159 so I gave up. I saw people in for eighteen bullets. 1618 01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:52.399 It was like wt's version of the Superman I guess people. 1619 01:22:52.159 --> 01:22:54.960 In the bargain basement version of the Superman events. 1620 01:22:55.079 --> 01:22:57.760 So I could have easily gone down that road, and 1621 01:22:57.800 --> 01:22:59.880 I pulled out very early. I didn't want to have 1622 01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:00.760 anything to do with that. 1623 01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:04.840 Yeah, I'm also kind of curious about what's gonna happen 1624 01:23:05.760 --> 01:23:10.239 for like that piece of the WPT World Championship. You know, 1625 01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:13.960 last year it was the big free role. This year 1626 01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:16.880 it was Mystery Quest. So is it gonna be a 1627 01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:19.000 third thing next year? Are they going to run back 1628 01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:19.680 Mystery Quest? 1629 01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:19.880 Like? 1630 01:23:20.039 --> 01:23:22.119 How does that all factor out? You know something I'm 1631 01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:24.039 also just kind of interested in. But anyway, back to 1632 01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:27.439 the WPT World Championship, that ten k main event field 1633 01:23:27.479 --> 01:23:29.359 that did dip by five hundred and twenty six players, 1634 01:23:29.359 --> 01:23:32.880 but still more than two point five million dollars up 1635 01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:35.680 top for the winner. The top two hundred and thirty 1636 01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:39.520 three places are going to make the money. There were 1637 01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:43.399 seven hundred and thirty three players returning for today's Day two. 1638 01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:52.279 Sam Laskuitz PGT regular bag the chip lead. No idea 1639 01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:55.560 how he's doing right now, but the best vanilla poker 1640 01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:58.439 tournament player in the world, I'm sure he's doing simply incredible. 1641 01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:00.920 Hopefully he's not out there starting he fights with anyone, 1642 01:24:01.399 --> 01:24:03.800 of course, you know, you never know, you never know 1643 01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:06.279 who's going to start just throwing down more than eighteen 1644 01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:09.840 point two million dollars in the prize pool for this one. 1645 01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:13.279 I guess I'm just gonna ask you the question sir, 1646 01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:19.359 are you starting to worry about this event declining? Yeah, 1647 01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:21.560 I mean this is a big drop. This wasn't like 1648 01:24:22.399 --> 01:24:23.479 fifty players. 1649 01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:27.800 Yeah, and you know we keep hopping on WSB Paradise 1650 01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:30.880 going bigger and better. Here it feels like WPT is 1651 01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:35.000 going in a way the other way obviously when not falling. 1652 01:24:35.399 --> 01:24:37.119 Let me just jump in and say that the other 1653 01:24:37.159 --> 01:24:40.359 way for this ten came in because everything else is great, 1654 01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:43.239 highlighted by the prime. 1655 01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:47.720 They removed the guarantee, so that's one thing. But then 1656 01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:51.039 the Club wt stuff's also gone down. You know, we 1657 01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:53.880 have the ten million dollar free row obviously, so a 1658 01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:56.000 lot of money given out this year with Club WBT, 1659 01:24:56.119 --> 01:24:59.239 but just much five Yeah, just much harder to get. 1660 01:25:00.399 --> 01:25:02.279 I think that has the factor that they're going down. 1661 01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:07.159 So you know, it's an interesting time. Do they want 1662 01:25:07.159 --> 01:25:09.159 to make any changes to this main event? I think 1663 01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:11.439 a lot of people on Socialism saying no, it's great. 1664 01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:14.720 You know, the one entry per flive is perfect, don't 1665 01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:18.079 change it. Like you touched on a little earlier, maybe 1666 01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:22.000 be the bigger man or the bigger tour. And you know, 1667 01:25:22.119 --> 01:25:25.439 i'veset your dates just slightly just so you can capitalize 1668 01:25:25.439 --> 01:25:28.159 on people traveling back, We've seen a lot of big 1669 01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:31.920 names already on their way back. You know. We saw 1670 01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:35.199 josh Ario tweet out something that he was landing in 1671 01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:37.680 time for Day one Sea and his wife was going 1672 01:25:37.760 --> 01:25:40.439 to basically hadn't seen him in two weeks, but was 1673 01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:42.000 going to pick him up, drive him straight over to 1674 01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:43.600 the wind so he could jump in on one Sea. 1675 01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:45.640 He probably got to have a lot of other players 1676 01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:49.720 like that coming back today, even after cashing. So if 1677 01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:52.600 you had run the event over, say this upcoming weekend. 1678 01:25:53.239 --> 01:25:55.600 You know, it's the very end of the series, I 1679 01:25:55.640 --> 01:25:58.199 get it, but you do have that chance to capitalize 1680 01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:02.159 on people coming from Bahamas. And look, Bahama's dates are 1681 01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:05.319 out now you touch on December first, eighteenth. You know, 1682 01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:10.720 that seems where they could potentially start planning around the 1683 01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:12.439 main event. They're not going to know the main event 1684 01:26:12.479 --> 01:26:14.319 days Paradise for a while, but they can kind of 1685 01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:18.520 probably predict it and say, hey, look, you know, we're 1686 01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:21.760 gonna assume it's going to be here, so let's push 1687 01:26:21.800 --> 01:26:23.760 outs a little later so we can try and get 1688 01:26:24.479 --> 01:26:27.239 more people and actually bring this back up you know, 1689 01:26:27.319 --> 01:26:30.399 onto the you know, back to where it kind of 1690 01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:31.399 was a couple of years ago. 1691 01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:35.399 Yeah, and there's been a lot of talk about the 1692 01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:39.920 value of this WPT World Championship event. I've talked with 1693 01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:45.319 a lot of people about it. I'm starting to agree 1694 01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:49.520 a bit more that this is right up there with 1695 01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:53.399 the WSP main events. I did have a couple of 1696 01:26:53.399 --> 01:26:55.520 people tell me that this was even better than the 1697 01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:58.560 Spain event in terms of value, and if they could 1698 01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:00.239 play one ten K in the world for the rest 1699 01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:02.199 of their lives, they would play this one versus the 1700 01:27:02.279 --> 01:27:04.520 w SPE main event. I don't think they're idiots. I 1701 01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:06.960 don't think I can get there just yet, but I 1702 01:27:07.039 --> 01:27:12.439 understand their point and some of their points are And 1703 01:27:12.479 --> 01:27:14.720 this is again shout out producer rich Ryan. I know 1704 01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:18.680 he's been on this take forever, but the w SPE 1705 01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:22.880 main event structure in Las Vegas is almost too good 1706 01:27:22.960 --> 01:27:26.520 in the sense that it's too hard for like a 1707 01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:29.960 more recreational player to thrive. Not that you're not going 1708 01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:32.359 to get the breakouts here and there, but on the whole, 1709 01:27:33.079 --> 01:27:36.399 you know, once you're playing two hour levels for ten 1710 01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:39.560 days straight, I mean, it's the like the cream is 1711 01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:42.560 going to rise. That's just how it is. And the 1712 01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:45.680 WPT World Championship structor is still a very very good structure. 1713 01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:47.399 It's sixty minutes on day one, it goes to ninety 1714 01:27:47.399 --> 01:27:49.840 minutes on day two, so that's still a very slow structure. 1715 01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:51.720 But you know, you start a little bit shallower with 1716 01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:54.520 two hundred big blinds. It's a little bit faster to 1717 01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:56.840 start all that sort of stuff. So when a structure 1718 01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:59.600 is a little bit faster and there's more variance involved, 1719 01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:04.000 it's just going to allow lesser players to be able 1720 01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:05.720 to kind of get lucky and win more, you know, 1721 01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:08.880 so you have that aspect of things. Somebody else made 1722 01:28:08.880 --> 01:28:11.239 the point to me that, you know, the WSP main 1723 01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:14.760 event in Las Vegas is that one tournament where strictly 1724 01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:18.520 cash game professionals will go out of their way to 1725 01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:21.359 play where they won't play other ten ks. They won't 1726 01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:23.199 They just don't bother with them. They they'd rather, you know, 1727 01:28:23.239 --> 01:28:26.359 spend their week playing a cash game because you know, 1728 01:28:26.439 --> 01:28:29.000 in order to like, you might play three four days 1729 01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:31.439 in a tournament and like double your buying, So it's 1730 01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:33.159 just not worth it to them. But the WSPE a 1731 01:28:33.239 --> 01:28:36.439 event with the structure that's so good, it's much more 1732 01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:38.920 like a cash game in terms of a format because 1733 01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:41.479 it's just so long and extended, and the fact that 1734 01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:43.319 you know you can win ten million dollars up top, 1735 01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:45.439 you know you're going to get a lot of really 1736 01:28:45.479 --> 01:28:48.199 good players that come out. Where I break from it 1737 01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:50.640 is like again going back to what we talked about, 1738 01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:52.720 like way back at the beginning of the pod, and 1739 01:28:52.760 --> 01:28:55.000 I know we're running super long with this, but whatever. 1740 01:28:56.920 --> 01:28:58.439 At least I didn't promise that it was going to 1741 01:28:58.479 --> 01:29:03.600 be a short one. But uh, like, if somebody's going 1742 01:29:03.680 --> 01:29:05.600 to play a ten k, if you're gonna save up 1743 01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:07.199 and play a ten k, you're saving up to play 1744 01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:10.600 the WSP main event and trying to like trying to 1745 01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:14.760 get past that is very hard. So you're gonna have 1746 01:29:14.840 --> 01:29:18.760 I don't know, two three thousand like dreamers and shot 1747 01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:21.600 takers whatever the number is in that event, and I 1748 01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:23.319 feel like that makes up for the fact that the 1749 01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:27.159 WPT World Championship is a bit smaller. So so yeah, 1750 01:29:27.199 --> 01:29:29.760 I mean it's it's I still think the WPT World Championship, 1751 01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:33.560 this edition of it is elite. It's awesome. I would 1752 01:29:33.560 --> 01:29:35.319 love for them to find some sort of way to 1753 01:29:35.359 --> 01:29:39.800 bring back a guarantee, you know. I think that's I 1754 01:29:39.800 --> 01:29:43.720 think that's the natural next step for this event, you know, 1755 01:29:44.800 --> 01:29:46.520 because I just I don't know, I just fear that 1756 01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:48.479 it's gonna kind of keep going the other way if 1757 01:29:49.319 --> 01:29:52.960 what WSP is doing down in the Bahamas can continues 1758 01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:55.399 to go their way, because it there are no signs 1759 01:29:55.439 --> 01:29:58.880 that they're slowing down none whatsoever. So you know, you 1760 01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:00.960 got to kind of fight with that if you're the WPT. 1761 01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:02.920 So you know, part of it is what you said, 1762 01:30:03.039 --> 01:30:06.039 adjusting the schedule so it works better in that sense, 1763 01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:09.920 bringing back the guarantee, and I mean Tim and I 1764 01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:11.960 thought it was crazy to begin with when they went 1765 01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:13.840 to forty million, Like that was nuts, Like they didn't 1766 01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:15.880 need to do that. You know, maybe just have twenty 1767 01:30:16.359 --> 01:30:18.359 you know, maybe push to twenty five whatever, and that's 1768 01:30:18.439 --> 01:30:19.560 kind of the guarantee, and that's it. 1769 01:30:19.640 --> 01:30:19.840 You know. 1770 01:30:21.960 --> 01:30:24.600 I also think that, you know, part of it is 1771 01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:27.119 maybe they just really start to lean more into this Prime. 1772 01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:30.039 I mean, this Prime is like the greatest fucking tournament. 1773 01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:35.760 I mean it's so good and like it's now had 1774 01:30:35.800 --> 01:30:37.920 a couple of years where it's run eleven hundred dollars 1775 01:30:37.920 --> 01:30:40.720 buying five million dollars guarantee. I mean I would I 1776 01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:43.840 would honestly, try and push that thing to ten million. Like, 1777 01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:47.880 I think that's like if if WSP Paradise is going 1778 01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:50.600 to go one way with these insane high rollers and 1779 01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:53.479 endless bullets and all this sort of stuff, like, then 1780 01:30:53.920 --> 01:30:57.159 go the other way, focus on prime and just try 1781 01:30:57.159 --> 01:31:01.239 and attack like you know, the mid major types of play. 1782 01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:06.920 Why not? Okay, going on that point, why don't we 1783 01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:11.239 change the main event to a five K ten mil? 1784 01:31:12.439 --> 01:31:14.239 We think the five k is a good price point here. 1785 01:31:14.279 --> 01:31:15.600 We've talked about this a lot. 1786 01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:20.560 My problem is, yeah, but like my problem with that, 1787 01:31:20.800 --> 01:31:22.880 and I don't even know if it's my problem, but 1788 01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:25.399 I would say that the problem that the WPT might 1789 01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:30.119 have is that the WPT World Championship like that event. 1790 01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:32.239 First of all, the fact that they're even at ten k, 1791 01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:35.800 when that event used to came out yeah and made 1792 01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:40.800 its name as a twenty five k, like, so yeah, 1793 01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:44.279 I I just don't know if you diminish the WPD 1794 01:31:44.399 --> 01:31:48.199 World Championship event brand by going to a five. 1795 01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:52.199 K something, you could argue that it's already been, that's 1796 01:31:52.239 --> 01:31:54.079 already happened when they jumped it to ten and when they. 1797 01:31:54.079 --> 01:31:58.680 Remained Listen, I think, honestly it's pretty perfect the way 1798 01:31:58.720 --> 01:32:01.680 it is right now. I app love it. You know, 1799 01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:06.000 there's two things I don't like about it, Okay, three things. 1800 01:32:06.199 --> 01:32:09.439 One the fact that it's ten point four. The two 1801 01:32:09.439 --> 01:32:11.279 things that I'm about to say are kind of jokes. 1802 01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:13.439 The fact that it's ten point four I think is ridiculous, 1803 01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:15.960 but that's kind of a joking. Take two, I think 1804 01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:20.039 the chips are outrageously bad. Okay, other than that the 1805 01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:22.520 event is late. Now. The one thing that I actually 1806 01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:25.039 think like really hurts them and that I don't like 1807 01:32:25.079 --> 01:32:27.920 about it, it just doesn't have a guarantee, Like I 1808 01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:30.279 think it has to have a guarantee, but I think 1809 01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:34.000 the three starting flights freeze out per flight. The structure 1810 01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:37.000 of it, you know, start I could honestly even argue 1811 01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:40.279 maybe you go like forty sixty ninety with the structure, 1812 01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:43.399 like you know, or like forty sixty seventy five like nineties, 1813 01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:47.159 like I mean that's a lot, but anyway, or like 1814 01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:50.520 sixty seventy five ninety something like that. But I think 1815 01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:53.399 it's really really an elite event. It's also at an 1816 01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:56.399 amazing venue right in my backyard, so I'm going to 1817 01:32:56.439 --> 01:32:57.840 be partial to that. But the win is also an 1818 01:32:57.880 --> 01:33:00.439 incredible venue they have in the ballroom space. It's just 1819 01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:02.479 freaking amazing. The only problem with having in the ballin 1820 01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:04.560 space is these people that want to order drinks. It's 1821 01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:07.560 seventeen dollars for a glass of Chardenay. I heard that 1822 01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:09.119 the other day when this lady ordered at my table, 1823 01:33:09.159 --> 01:33:11.600 I was like, what in the world is going on? 1824 01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:15.199 But anyway, I mean, the only thing that I think 1825 01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:18.399 they need to do is like try and just find 1826 01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:22.119 more satellite winners, So whether that's leveraging WPT Global Club, 1827 01:33:22.239 --> 01:33:26.399 WPT Gold or the live ones that run in Las 1828 01:33:26.479 --> 01:33:30.560 Vegas at the wind but then also bring in a guarantee, 1829 01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:33.960 like reintroduce the guarantee and listen, honestly, maybe you just 1830 01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:36.199 come in with fifteen million to start. Maybe you just 1831 01:33:36.279 --> 01:33:39.079 kind of try and reset the whole damn thing. Fifteen 1832 01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:42.760 million next year, you know, fifteen million plus we're guaranteeing 1833 01:33:42.920 --> 01:33:47.119 five hundred satellite winners something like that, right, which I 1834 01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:48.680 think you can get to. I mean, they probably have 1835 01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:53.600 two hundred satellite winners just from the live satellites themselves, 1836 01:33:54.039 --> 01:33:56.079 So going to five hundred when you have the two 1837 01:33:56.119 --> 01:34:00.680 big online platforms, I don't think is too crazy, you know, 1838 01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:02.439 And then and then maybe the next year, if it 1839 01:34:02.479 --> 01:34:05.560 goes well, you bump that guarantee to twenty million, you know, 1840 01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:07.720 and then you maybe maybe you go up to twenty five, 1841 01:34:07.800 --> 01:34:09.720 et cetera, and you kind of grow it that way. 1842 01:34:09.760 --> 01:34:12.079 But you know, other than that, I mean, I think 1843 01:34:12.119 --> 01:34:15.680 that event is great. I just fear my fear because 1844 01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:16.960 I love that event so much. 1845 01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:18.479 Is that. 1846 01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:23.520 Without the guarantee and again, with the direction that WSP 1847 01:34:23.600 --> 01:34:26.319 Paradise is going, maybe we just start to see this 1848 01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:27.920 trend that we don't want to see in this event 1849 01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:30.920 just continues to lose one, two, three, four, five hundred 1850 01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:34.439 players every single year. And that's just a bummer, right 1851 01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:38.439 prime Is that that tournament is freaking awesome? 1852 01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:41.000 Yeah, I mean. 1853 01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:42.359 And I guess you and I can talk about that 1854 01:34:42.399 --> 01:34:44.560 now we both cashed in it. Shout out to us. 1855 01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:50.000 I absolutely positively f and blew it at the end. 1856 01:34:50.439 --> 01:34:54.079 I just I just I tried to be a hero 1857 01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:56.399 and I didn't need to be and I butchered it. 1858 01:34:56.520 --> 01:35:01.359 And yeah, I screwed up big time. I would say 1859 01:35:01.359 --> 01:35:05.159 that I was I played a plus in every single 1860 01:35:05.159 --> 01:35:08.159 hand I played until my bust out hand and then 1861 01:35:08.199 --> 01:35:11.319 my bust out hand was a fucking f minus. Okay, 1862 01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:13.920 that like, it was just it was just stupid. And 1863 01:35:14.479 --> 01:35:16.319 there's the biggest moment and I blew it and I'm 1864 01:35:16.319 --> 01:35:18.680 mad at myself for it. But it is what it is. 1865 01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:21.399 That's just I need to I don't know, I need 1866 01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:22.600 to learn to get past it and I need to 1867 01:35:22.600 --> 01:35:24.159 be able to fix my mistakes in the moment. But 1868 01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:25.479 you know, that's that. 1869 01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:29.920 But yeah, I didn't blow anything. I was short, so 1870 01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:31.600 my decision were pretty easy. 1871 01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:34.119 Well, I mean you you listen, you send me some 1872 01:35:34.159 --> 01:35:35.239 hand histories, you blow it. 1873 01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:37.920 A lot, okay, like wait, which event was that? Anything? 1874 01:35:38.479 --> 01:35:38.560 No? 1875 01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:39.760 That was the six hundred. 1876 01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:43.159 But you send me but you like, can you just 1877 01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:46.239 play to win? For the love of God? Like, holy hell? 1878 01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:51.880 Do you ever bluff? Like I mean, I say, I 1879 01:35:52.640 --> 01:35:57.760 say that Buffand which bluff suited? 1880 01:35:58.560 --> 01:36:04.319 Oh, I've never done anything. So four of the five suited. 1881 01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:05.079 Yeah. 1882 01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:07.560 It wasn't it like button versus big blind like this 1883 01:36:07.720 --> 01:36:08.800 a small blind whatever? 1884 01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:13.079 Yeah? No, I mean we were both in for two bullets. 1885 01:36:13.319 --> 01:36:15.399 I made one page jump, he made several. 1886 01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:16.640 Yeah. 1887 01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:19.720 I cast two hundred and fourteenth place out of nine thousand, 1888 01:36:20.319 --> 01:36:21.800 eight hundred and seventy six. 1889 01:36:22.359 --> 01:36:24.199 Eight, twenty seventh or something. 1890 01:36:24.239 --> 01:36:26.960 I think I hadn't. I had a really really good 1891 01:36:27.079 --> 01:36:30.560 day one I fired two bullets. As you said, I 1892 01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:32.199 also like the setup with this. It's a it's an 1893 01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:35.520 eleven hundred dollars buying But again I also hate the 1894 01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:37.359 fact that it's like nine to sixty goes on the price. 1895 01:36:37.840 --> 01:36:41.399 What are we doing here? But anyway, it's eleven hundred 1896 01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:44.399 dollars buy in, it's four starting flights, and it's maximum 1897 01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:47.960 two entries per flight, which I think is incredible. Like, yeah, 1898 01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:50.920 I mean, eighty eight hundred dollars all in, if you 1899 01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:53.680 fire all bullets is still you know, a good chunk 1900 01:36:53.720 --> 01:36:56.840 of money. But that's not like unattainable, Like that's like, 1901 01:36:57.119 --> 01:36:59.079 you know, if you're if you're if you're a if 1902 01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:01.359 you're kind of you know and around between five hundred 1903 01:37:01.359 --> 01:37:03.600 and one case, and that's kind of your your average 1904 01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:06.079 buy in like to be able to to sell a 1905 01:37:06.119 --> 01:37:08.119 little bit of action or whatever and get in, get 1906 01:37:08.119 --> 01:37:09.840 in there if you have to fire max. Just because 1907 01:37:09.880 --> 01:37:12.079 this tournament is so good, I think it's just so 1908 01:37:12.239 --> 01:37:15.079 worth it. I love the structure of the thing. I 1909 01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:18.680 think it's great. I really do so you know. 1910 01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:23.439 My my only gripe I think is you know a 1911 01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:27.239 lot of these win events, this this series starting at 1912 01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:31.279 eleven am. These are going very late one thirty am. 1913 01:37:31.520 --> 01:37:32.800 Obviously the restart on date. 1914 01:37:32.840 --> 01:37:34.399 You know, if you beat mine didn't go late. 1915 01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:35.880 He was, yeah, he was. 1916 01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:37.239 I was the earliest one. 1917 01:37:37.359 --> 01:37:40.039 Was the early one. Everyone else was late. I played. 1918 01:37:40.039 --> 01:37:41.399 We didn't even have to play hand for hand. They 1919 01:37:41.399 --> 01:37:43.560 started announcing it and then everyone's you guys. 1920 01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:47.800 I was one day we finished at say one thirty 1921 01:37:47.840 --> 01:37:49.760 I think in the morning, and then we had to 1922 01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:52.720 be back by you know, eleven, I think there's you know, 1923 01:37:52.720 --> 01:37:55.479 we're playing down at twelve and a half percent. I'm wondering, 1924 01:37:55.600 --> 01:37:58.560 you know, if they that's a long day. I wonder 1925 01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:01.760 if we can feel like we can shrink. Obviously there's 1926 01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:02.359 a dinner break. 1927 01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:05.680 Okay, First of all, the same week dinner breaks start 1928 01:38:05.720 --> 01:38:08.279 the fucking hashtag print the T shirts. I don't feel like, 1929 01:38:08.479 --> 01:38:10.960 can we stop with this nonsense with the goddamn dinner breaks. 1930 01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:11.880 It's outrageous. 1931 01:38:12.399 --> 01:38:15.159 It's outrageous. The second thing that I would probably entertain 1932 01:38:15.239 --> 01:38:21.479 doing with this event, I might pay fifteen percent, yeah, 1933 01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:23.119 and just figure it out, because. 1934 01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:27.199 Nine they're not going to get that big number, even 1935 01:38:27.199 --> 01:38:29.000 that two and a half percent, you boss, you know 1936 01:38:29.039 --> 01:38:31.720 they're going to jump in say you might not get nine, 1937 01:38:32.239 --> 01:38:34.479 you might only get nine thousand instead of ninety eight hundred. 1938 01:38:34.840 --> 01:38:36.560 Well, could you could you steal the piece of the 1939 01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:40.239 WSP playbook and cash fifteen twelve and a half percent 1940 01:38:40.279 --> 01:38:44.439 make the next day so you can multi Yeah? Just 1941 01:38:46.119 --> 01:38:48.159 I mean, I'm just throwing ideas out there, you know, like. 1942 01:38:48.119 --> 01:38:50.920 I would even know if anything I would prefer. 1943 01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:53.359 A part of the part of the day went. Part 1944 01:38:53.399 --> 01:38:57.520 of the issue that leads to longer day ones is 1945 01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:03.279 that when an event like WPT Prime has success and 1946 01:39:03.439 --> 01:39:06.960 becomes such an important, prominent tournament for people, they want 1947 01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:09.279 to cash it, they want to do well in it, 1948 01:39:09.359 --> 01:39:12.239 which then slows things down as you get to the bubble, 1949 01:39:12.399 --> 01:39:15.039 right like like it's kind of this weird thing where 1950 01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:17.880 like the event is doing so well that it becomes 1951 01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:20.399 so important for people to want to get into the 1952 01:39:20.399 --> 01:39:22.600 money to be like, yeah, I cashed Prime. I cashed Prime. 1953 01:39:22.720 --> 01:39:23.199 I like that. 1954 01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:25.840 A lot of the conversation, a lot of the conversation 1955 01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:27.840 at the tables is like, oh, how'd you do in Prime? 1956 01:39:27.840 --> 01:39:30.600 How'd you do in Prime, like it's the WPT ten 1957 01:39:30.680 --> 01:39:33.000 K World Championship main event, and then it's Prime like 1958 01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:34.359 and it's like, how do you do prime? How do 1959 01:39:34.399 --> 01:39:36.359 you do Prime? Like that's what the conversation is. Like 1960 01:39:36.560 --> 01:39:39.680 the event has gotten so good in terms of like 1961 01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:43.439 brand power that people want to cash this thing, which 1962 01:39:43.439 --> 01:39:45.159 then you get to the bubble and it's like everyone's 1963 01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:47.600 just locking down because they want to cash this one 1964 01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:49.239 K where it's like, you know, at the end of 1965 01:39:49.279 --> 01:39:51.800 the day, it's like it is just a one K, 1966 01:39:52.119 --> 01:39:54.000 you know, but it's it's gotten to be this this 1967 01:39:54.119 --> 01:39:58.239 insanely big, prestigious one K that everyone wants to do 1968 01:39:58.279 --> 01:40:01.119 well in it. So like, yeah, it slows things down. 1969 01:40:01.960 --> 01:40:04.920 And also the fact that I think that like I 1970 01:40:04.920 --> 01:40:07.239 mean it is eight bullets, yes, but it's still limited, 1971 01:40:07.319 --> 01:40:09.880 like it's cap it's not just unlimited, so like people 1972 01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:13.000 know like okay, like maybe I only brought four bullets, 1973 01:40:13.039 --> 01:40:14.560 like I'm on my third, like I want to make 1974 01:40:14.600 --> 01:40:17.039 it happen, So they just they just kind of tend 1975 01:40:17.079 --> 01:40:20.319 to slow things down. Yeah, but you know, overall, I 1976 01:40:20.319 --> 01:40:23.760 think again, I think this event is just absolutely great. 1977 01:40:23.800 --> 01:40:28.159 I think it's you know, definitely an event like it's 1978 01:40:28.159 --> 01:40:29.520 an event you have to put on your schedule that 1979 01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:32.399 you can't miss, you know, whether it's your you're doing 1980 01:40:32.399 --> 01:40:37.239 one bullet, you know. I went in planning just to 1981 01:40:37.239 --> 01:40:39.800 play one bullet. You were like, no, you have to 1982 01:40:39.800 --> 01:40:41.760 play two. So I put in a second. 1983 01:40:41.800 --> 01:40:43.880 You have to play fucking eight. Okay, Like the event 1984 01:40:43.960 --> 01:40:46.840 is too goes dude, how many times? How many tournaments 1985 01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:48.640 in the world can you put in one K and 1986 01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:51.720 win more than a million dollars? Yes, but I, I mean, honestly, 1987 01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:52.600 do not have. 1988 01:40:52.520 --> 01:40:55.239 Eight bullets to my name when it comes to pocast. 1989 01:40:55.600 --> 01:40:59.399 Sell some action, but yeah, it's as bad as you 1990 01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:03.159 play still, buy ten whatever, and you will text me 1991 01:41:03.199 --> 01:41:04.600 all the hands and I will tell you you're a 1992 01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:07.239 fucking idiot, and he's unbelievable. 1993 01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:11.439 Yeah, yeah, you kind of missed this event at all. 1994 01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:14.279 And then we both cashed the six hundred. 1995 01:41:14.079 --> 01:41:15.800 And then we both cast the six hundred as well. 1996 01:41:16.760 --> 01:41:18.840 You said the bar I decided to blow you out 1997 01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:19.680 of the water once again. 1998 01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:20.439 Yeah, yep. 1999 01:41:21.359 --> 01:41:23.479 And then I tried to win the tournament early on 2000 01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:25.479 day two, and I did not win the tournament early 2001 01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:26.159 on day two. 2002 01:41:26.399 --> 01:41:28.039 I think we probably I didn't know how much you 2003 01:41:28.079 --> 01:41:30.399 cashed for we might have cashed for the same amount though, even. 2004 01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:31.840 Though thirteen seventeen. 2005 01:41:32.119 --> 01:41:34.359 Oh I no, I made the next jump thirteen. 2006 01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:36.800 Welly, lucky you, lucky you for. 2007 01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:38.720 Thirty five dollars. I feel rich. 2008 01:41:39.319 --> 01:41:42.359 I mean I I I played a huge I tried. 2009 01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:44.079 I played at one point one million ship pot. I 2010 01:41:44.079 --> 01:41:45.880 mean it's like, you know, I might have been up 2011 01:41:45.880 --> 01:41:47.640 there with the chip leaders. I for sure would have 2012 01:41:47.680 --> 01:41:48.760 been up there with the chip I don't know if 2013 01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:50.079 I would have been the chip leader if I won 2014 01:41:50.119 --> 01:41:51.800 the hand, but yeah, it was that was a sick 2015 01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:54.000 one to lose. And even though the guy called in 2016 01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:57.760 the turn called my jam, I mean I had seventeen out, 2017 01:41:57.800 --> 01:42:02.319 so it was like whatever. But yeah, you know, one 2018 01:42:02.399 --> 01:42:04.800 day i' hit a seventeen outer and then actually like 2019 01:42:04.920 --> 01:42:06.000 run deep in a tournament. 2020 01:42:06.079 --> 01:42:09.600 But that that was also in a pretty incredible event too. 2021 01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:11.960 Size Yeah what you you played Day one A. It 2022 01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:13.920 had two starting flights, So this was a six hundred 2023 01:42:13.920 --> 01:42:16.600 dollars buy in two hundred and fifty K guarantee with 2024 01:42:16.720 --> 01:42:20.760 two starting flights. Yeah, Tim's flight had five hundred and 2025 01:42:20.760 --> 01:42:22.800 like fifty or five hundred and sixty entries. Mine had 2026 01:42:22.840 --> 01:42:26.600 like eight seventy. Yeah, I mean they blew this two 2027 01:42:26.640 --> 01:42:28.760 hundred fifty dollars guarantee out of the water and fifty 2028 01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:30.000 K guarantee out of the water. 2029 01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:33.279 One hundred and fifteen k for first. The guy that 2030 01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:37.159 won was the guy that knocked me out, and we 2031 01:42:37.239 --> 01:42:41.239 both commented on the level of playing this six hundred 2032 01:42:41.439 --> 01:42:44.479 was I'm interesting watching. 2033 01:42:45.159 --> 01:42:47.720 It's interesting watching. I mean I told you how I 2034 01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:48.439 got all my chips. 2035 01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:50.239 I mean it was I know, it was just it 2036 01:42:50.279 --> 01:42:51.800 was wild and wild. 2037 01:42:51.920 --> 01:42:54.279 I mean I didn't like, I didn't have to do 2038 01:42:54.359 --> 01:42:58.640 too much, but it was. It was definitely it was 2039 01:42:58.680 --> 01:43:00.199 a lot of crazy. I mean there's a lot of 2040 01:43:00.199 --> 01:43:02.800 craziness happening in this entire series, even the prime. The 2041 01:43:02.840 --> 01:43:04.439 prime is just like, I don't even know what people 2042 01:43:04.479 --> 01:43:10.159 are doing. But yeah, anyway, good stuff. There's still a 2043 01:43:10.199 --> 01:43:12.279 lot more poker to go. There's you know, there's an 2044 01:43:12.319 --> 01:43:16.239 eleven dollars two million dollar guarantee that started today at 2045 01:43:16.279 --> 01:43:20.439 the win. You know, they got a three I think 2046 01:43:20.479 --> 01:43:22.640 it's a three K three million dollar guarantee. I mean 2047 01:43:22.640 --> 01:43:25.880 it's just like it's just NonStop. Venetian's got a whole 2048 01:43:25.920 --> 01:43:29.479 ton of stuff going on. So yeah, It's just the 2049 01:43:29.520 --> 01:43:33.000 whole thing is just uh wild. It really is just 2050 01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:35.600 just a wild. Do you want to do card rankings 2051 01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:36.800 or you want to do community cards? 2052 01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:39.119 Do community cause? Is that ties in with what we 2053 01:43:39.279 --> 01:43:39.800 just discussed? 2054 01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:42.199 I think, all right, cool, so let's do community cards. 2055 01:43:42.560 --> 01:43:45.000 You got a jingle, right, yeah, holiday season, we got 2056 01:43:45.079 --> 01:43:47.199 to play the jingle, So let's go play the jingle. 2057 01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:47.520 And let's go. 2058 01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:51.800 Attention, attention, good morning, good afternoon, and good evenings of 2059 01:43:51.880 --> 01:43:55.239 the Poker radio audience near and far. It is now 2060 01:43:55.319 --> 01:43:57.960 time for a brand spanking, spiffy and new shout out 2061 01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:00.880 to some of our most loyal listeners. Likely got a 2062 01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:03.720 bit too lucky on the way to the spotlight. You're 2063 01:44:03.800 --> 01:44:06.239 listening to the number one poker show in the land, 2064 01:44:06.520 --> 01:44:09.319 and it's time for a new edition of the Poker 2065 01:44:09.399 --> 01:44:12.079 Gold podcast Community Cards. 2066 01:44:12.439 --> 01:44:14.680 All right, what do you got for me? Don't even 2067 01:44:14.680 --> 01:44:15.279 know what this is? 2068 01:44:16.359 --> 01:44:18.600 Yeah, you do. Day one day at Prime, I'm sitting 2069 01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:21.399 over in the corner the ballroom. I see for Go podcasts. 2070 01:44:21.439 --> 01:44:24.159 I'm like, oh, look, poker Focus. His table breaks, My 2071 01:44:24.279 --> 01:44:28.279 table breaks. I end up drawing his table, you know, 2072 01:44:28.359 --> 01:44:31.600 over in the other side of the ballroom, and you know, 2073 01:44:31.720 --> 01:44:34.279 normally I have a mustache and I have long hair. 2074 01:44:34.800 --> 01:44:36.479 You know, I don't have the mustache right now, so 2075 01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:39.000 I look a little differently, and I had glasses on 2076 01:44:39.079 --> 01:44:41.399 when I was playing. I sat next to him. He 2077 01:44:41.399 --> 01:44:43.000 looked at me. I said, nice heart, and he says, 2078 01:44:43.039 --> 01:44:45.920 thank you. I don't think you realized who I was. 2079 01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:47.359 And then a little bit later he says, you know, 2080 01:44:47.439 --> 01:44:49.600 kind of strikes up a conversation with me. So we're chatting. 2081 01:44:49.640 --> 01:44:53.880 He's wearing the podcast hat. He's got like six big 2082 01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:56.880 but he's grinding six big blinds. We're like sixty from 2083 01:44:56.920 --> 01:45:00.600 the money in the prime. On day one day, he 2084 01:45:00.760 --> 01:45:02.800 ends up. You know, we talked about the hat. He's 2085 01:45:02.880 --> 01:45:06.760 you know, he had all the hats. You know, I'm saying, yeah, 2086 01:45:06.760 --> 01:45:08.319 we've got some new stuff hopefully coming out next year, 2087 01:45:08.319 --> 01:45:12.039 blah blah, Like I said, six big bines. He takes 2088 01:45:12.079 --> 01:45:14.439 the hat off. I noticed this, I'm saying. He takes 2089 01:45:14.479 --> 01:45:16.720 the hat off, puts in his bag, He gets a 2090 01:45:16.760 --> 01:45:19.119 shove through, gets another shove through, gets a double up. 2091 01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:24.439 He ends up bagging more than me. And you know 2092 01:45:24.520 --> 01:45:25.960 I was telling you how I was playing with him. 2093 01:45:26.000 --> 01:45:29.000 I saw him the next day and when we were 2094 01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:32.039 both kind of waiting for day two. He wasn't wearing 2095 01:45:32.079 --> 01:45:33.560 the hat and we walked past, and I'm kind to 2096 01:45:33.560 --> 01:45:35.359 make a comment, Hey, you know this is the pucket. 2097 01:45:35.399 --> 01:45:36.880 He goes, yeah, he took off his hat and he 2098 01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:39.159 started winning every hand and he goes, oh, I was 2099 01:45:39.159 --> 01:45:40.640 hoping he didn't notice that, and he goes, oh, I 2100 01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:45.880 noticed that. But yeah, shout out spin. I think it's 2101 01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:49.319 Spen Peterson. He ended up finishing four hundredth in prime 2102 01:45:49.399 --> 01:45:53.600 for like three and a half k outlasted last you. 2103 01:45:53.800 --> 01:45:57.000 That's all that matters. I'll yeah, yeah, he'll last me. 2104 01:45:57.720 --> 01:45:59.800 But good on spin, How last did you? Because he 2105 01:46:00.199 --> 01:46:01.520 actually played hands. 2106 01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:04.399 And then I saw him in the six hundred on 2107 01:46:04.399 --> 01:46:08.920 one A. He did not bag chips that day, but yeah, 2108 01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:11.880 shout out to him for wearing the podcast. How saying hi? 2109 01:46:11.880 --> 01:46:17.640 I had another person sayalo as well, Yeah, keep wearing 2110 01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:20.479 the keep repping the puck podcast has not anything for me, 2111 01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:23.399 but it seems to do some stuff for other people 2112 01:46:23.439 --> 01:46:23.880 out there. 2113 01:46:24.319 --> 01:46:29.079 Okay, okay, shout out Spen. All right, next up, let's 2114 01:46:29.119 --> 01:46:34.520 do let's do card rankings. Okay, so the reason why 2115 01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:36.439 I wanted to do this one. You love your fucking 2116 01:46:36.520 --> 01:46:41.800 rankings things. Two. I've been having a lot of conversations 2117 01:46:42.319 --> 01:46:45.920 about these cards that the win uses during the WBT 2118 01:46:46.039 --> 01:46:52.520 World Championship Series. They are the Faded Spade f SX cards. 2119 01:46:53.319 --> 01:46:57.840 I believe it is what they are, and I personally 2120 01:46:57.880 --> 01:47:00.199 think they are the best playing cards in poker. 2121 01:47:01.239 --> 01:47:01.479 Great. 2122 01:47:02.279 --> 01:47:05.680 I don't think it's really close. I love them. I 2123 01:47:05.720 --> 01:47:08.199 feel like I've had at least a dozen dealers comment 2124 01:47:08.199 --> 01:47:11.880 about how they hate the cards. I don't really know 2125 01:47:11.960 --> 01:47:15.000 what other players are saying, but I think they are 2126 01:47:16.039 --> 01:47:21.039 so good, so so good. What do you think? Sorry, 2127 01:47:21.119 --> 01:47:22.560 I had to get over. I had to reach over 2128 01:47:22.560 --> 01:47:24.159 because I actually had to grab a pack. 2129 01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:25.800 How do you have a pack? 2130 01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:28.720 Unbelievable because I'm pretty sure. I went to the website 2131 01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:31.399 fucking Fadedspade dot com, which everyone can do that too, 2132 01:47:31.720 --> 01:47:33.600 you know, no free ads, but free ad shout out 2133 01:47:33.640 --> 01:47:36.640 Tom Wheaton, and I bought them. Look Queen four, just 2134 01:47:36.720 --> 01:47:38.199 like Phil Helmy Queen four. 2135 01:47:39.119 --> 01:47:41.760 The reason I like these cards They feel really nice 2136 01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:43.960 on the hands, that's great, but I like the way 2137 01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:47.920 the crispness of the letters and the numbers when you 2138 01:47:47.960 --> 01:47:50.039 when you squeeze them. 2139 01:47:50.079 --> 01:47:52.640 So the index on the cards look, I got a 2140 01:47:52.640 --> 01:47:55.039 couple of kings right here. The index on the card 2141 01:47:55.159 --> 01:47:59.439 is is it's slightly larger then than you normally see 2142 01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:02.960 with like the copags or the bicycles or whatever that 2143 01:48:03.039 --> 01:48:05.960 like are commonly played with, but it's also not so 2144 01:48:06.159 --> 01:48:09.000 large that it's jumbo index if I have to look 2145 01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:12.520 at another damn jumbo index card. When I sat down 2146 01:48:12.760 --> 01:48:15.039 at the napt Las Vegas in my first tournament and 2147 01:48:15.079 --> 01:48:17.319 I fucking looked at my first hand and I was 2148 01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:20.439 did not remember that they use jumbo cards at resorts, 2149 01:48:20.520 --> 01:48:22.119 I wanted to flip the table over. 2150 01:48:22.840 --> 01:48:23.159 It is. 2151 01:48:23.239 --> 01:48:27.079 It is outrageous to use jumbo cards in a poker 2152 01:48:27.119 --> 01:48:30.399 tournament that is not a three hundred dollars buying seven 2153 01:48:30.399 --> 01:48:33.000 cards stud event. I'm sorry, like that that's just how 2154 01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:33.560 it has to be. 2155 01:48:33.880 --> 01:48:33.960 So. 2156 01:48:34.439 --> 01:48:37.560 But these are slightly larger, which I think that they're great. 2157 01:48:38.039 --> 01:48:40.000 They're actually kind of like I don't know if like 2158 01:48:40.079 --> 01:48:41.880 I don't know if this will come through on the video, 2159 01:48:41.920 --> 01:48:45.560 but like they're kind of like they're narrow, so they 2160 01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:50.039 squeeze nicely. The card itself is nice and freaking firm, 2161 01:48:50.199 --> 01:48:52.800 like they don't really bend at all. Like I just 2162 01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:55.039 love them Now, I will say that I'm not a dealer. 2163 01:48:55.079 --> 01:48:56.920 I'm not in the box pitching these all day and 2164 01:48:56.960 --> 01:48:59.199 having to shuffle them and whatever. They are pretty slippery, 2165 01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:01.840 which is probably some of the issues that the dealers 2166 01:49:01.840 --> 01:49:04.039 have with them. But I think these cards are the 2167 01:49:04.079 --> 01:49:09.199 freaking best. So these are my number one. But I 2168 01:49:09.239 --> 01:49:11.399 also don't think. I don't think Win uses these all year. 2169 01:49:11.439 --> 01:49:13.880 I think they only use them for the WPT World Championship. 2170 01:49:16.800 --> 01:49:18.399 I think as a partnership with Fated Space. 2171 01:49:18.479 --> 01:49:20.680 Yeah, I don't play enough at the wind too. 2172 01:49:21.359 --> 01:49:23.920 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that they don't. They don't because yeah, 2173 01:49:24.399 --> 01:49:25.640 so what's is this your number one? 2174 01:49:25.640 --> 01:49:25.840 Two? 2175 01:49:27.039 --> 01:49:27.159 Uh? 2176 01:49:27.520 --> 01:49:30.039 Hands down? Uh? It's I mean we need. 2177 01:49:30.720 --> 01:49:33.359 I'm fucking texting Tom Wheaton after this, the owner and 2178 01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:35.199 founder of Face. But I'm like you, we need a 2179 01:49:35.199 --> 01:49:38.800 promo code because we are talking the world out of 2180 01:49:38.800 --> 01:49:39.640 your freaking cards. 2181 01:49:39.640 --> 01:49:42.640 Man. You know you talk about the nap T cards 2182 01:49:42.640 --> 01:49:44.600 with the bigger faces. They don't bother me as much 2183 01:49:44.760 --> 01:49:47.560 for two reasons. One I used as you play like 2184 01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:51.319 an old man. No, I understand them, like I used 2185 01:49:51.319 --> 01:49:52.960 to play a lot of makes, so I've seen the 2186 01:49:52.960 --> 01:49:55.640 bigger cause they have above me. But back home in Australia. 2187 01:49:55.840 --> 01:49:58.840 That's why we use at Crown. So I grew up 2188 01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:00.720 with you know, if you get your probably remember from 2189 01:50:00.720 --> 01:50:02.560 when you were there. I grew up with those bigger cads, 2190 01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:05.239 so I liked them when I came to When I 2191 01:50:05.279 --> 01:50:07.880 came to America in two thousand and seven and played 2192 01:50:08.439 --> 01:50:10.880 you know, at Harris but the Mirage, and I saw 2193 01:50:10.920 --> 01:50:14.600 these little CODs, I thought I was gonna blind. So 2194 01:50:14.680 --> 01:50:16.239 I don't. They don't bother me as much as they 2195 01:50:16.279 --> 01:50:20.279 bother you shout out second on the rankings, I feel 2196 01:50:21.439 --> 01:50:25.079 either the CODs of the Venetian, I'm not sure what 2197 01:50:25.119 --> 01:50:27.319 they are exactly, but I'm a. 2198 01:50:27.479 --> 01:50:29.399 I don't know what those cards are. I should actually 2199 01:50:29.439 --> 01:50:33.960 ask Tommy l Rosa. I have them as my number three. 2200 01:50:34.359 --> 01:50:36.479 Oh god, what could be number two? 2201 01:50:37.399 --> 01:50:37.880 Number two? 2202 01:50:37.920 --> 01:50:38.319 Is gonna say? 2203 01:50:38.359 --> 01:50:42.640 Number number one is obvious. Number two to me is obvious. 2204 01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:43.800 Okay, what's the number two? 2205 01:50:43.840 --> 01:50:48.319 Then the w SP copad cards, yeah, okay, those are elite. 2206 01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:49.760 They are elite. 2207 01:50:50.239 --> 01:50:52.000 I just don't use them that much. 2208 01:50:52.039 --> 01:50:54.880 So I mean they're like they're also like they're perfect sizing. 2209 01:50:54.960 --> 01:50:57.399 They're not too small, they're certainly not too big, like 2210 01:50:57.800 --> 01:50:59.920 I like the way that the indexes look like. 2211 01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:02.800 You know. Look, the only downside with those is sometimes 2212 01:51:03.720 --> 01:51:05.920 you find you know, this year we were playing with 2213 01:51:06.119 --> 01:51:07.960 WSB twenty twenty four decks. 2214 01:51:08.479 --> 01:51:09.039 Who cares. 2215 01:51:10.359 --> 01:51:12.119 I'm just we're gonna have a con. That's the con. 2216 01:51:14.119 --> 01:51:16.520 I mean, yeah, I love the WSB Cope cards, so 2217 01:51:16.960 --> 01:51:20.239 those are my my number two. And then the Venetian cards, 2218 01:51:20.279 --> 01:51:22.680 which I don't I thought it was faded Spade, but 2219 01:51:22.720 --> 01:51:24.880 I don't know if it's faded spade, like they might 2220 01:51:24.920 --> 01:51:27.079 use faded spade, they might use faded spade ones in 2221 01:51:27.119 --> 01:51:29.760 the streaming room. And when I've done commentary, I've noticed 2222 01:51:29.800 --> 01:51:33.079 that the faded spade. But yeah, I gotta figure out 2223 01:51:33.119 --> 01:51:35.640 what cards Venetian uses. We should we should? 2224 01:51:35.720 --> 01:51:39.960 Uh, I'm trying to look if I have a picture 2225 01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:42.359 of the cards. I do, but yeah, it doesn't really 2226 01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:47.560 say anything on it. But yeah, those cards in uster. 2227 01:51:48.720 --> 01:51:51.239 And then I'm not sure there is another like everything 2228 01:51:51.359 --> 01:51:55.159 then it's everything else is like what I have, like 2229 01:51:55.239 --> 01:51:56.239 literally everything else. 2230 01:51:56.399 --> 01:51:58.680 You know, you know what's on the A very low card. 2231 01:51:58.720 --> 01:52:00.600 I have to put it very low on the list, 2232 01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:03.239 the south Point card. I haven't played there in a 2233 01:52:03.239 --> 01:52:03.920 long time. 2234 01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:06.399 Haven't played there in a while either, so I don't 2235 01:52:06.399 --> 01:52:06.640 even know. 2236 01:52:06.680 --> 01:52:10.000 It's much hot a to squeeze. So they lose, they 2237 01:52:10.039 --> 01:52:11.800 lose a few points for their thickness. 2238 01:52:12.039 --> 01:52:14.479 I mean, anything that uses jumbo is just immediately like 2239 01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:16.800 you're at the bottom of the list. Does I've never 2240 01:52:16.840 --> 01:52:18.920 played like cash at Resorts World? Do they use those 2241 01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:22.720 cards like all the time? They're just the worst? 2242 01:52:23.039 --> 01:52:26.199 Yeah, I don't know. I don't think they do. Maybe 2243 01:52:26.199 --> 01:52:28.119 it's just the pokusars event. 2244 01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:32.359 Yeah, I don't know, but those you just can't can't 2245 01:52:32.399 --> 01:52:37.920 use those cards. So yeah, those are our card rankings. 2246 01:52:38.039 --> 01:52:40.560 I love the Faded Spade f SX cards. I love 2247 01:52:40.600 --> 01:52:42.199 the Kopak wsp cards. 2248 01:52:43.359 --> 01:52:44.960 You know what the next rankings we have to do? 2249 01:52:46.520 --> 01:52:48.680 You're I was gonna say, I was going to say 2250 01:52:48.680 --> 01:52:50.159 the same sort of thing. So I'm wondering if you're 2251 01:52:50.159 --> 01:52:51.439 going to say the same thing that I am. 2252 01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:54.279 Should be Vegas chipset. 2253 01:52:53.920 --> 01:52:56.239 Ranked boom, so exactly what I was going to say. 2254 01:52:56.600 --> 01:52:59.399 Because you know, ve Nation has multiple chip stacks, Wind 2255 01:52:59.399 --> 01:53:00.720 has multiple ship sets yea. 2256 01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:04.720 And the World Championship at the bottom. That's I think 2257 01:53:04.840 --> 01:53:05.399 the bottom of it. 2258 01:53:05.439 --> 01:53:06.239 I don't think they can't. 2259 01:53:06.359 --> 01:53:09.399 I think you have to use, like, no, those chips 2260 01:53:09.520 --> 01:53:12.000 are just they're so there's there's. 2261 01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:13.399 Well, then we have to include all the w s 2262 01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:18.840 Pation standard chip sets because the set were used in 2263 01:53:18.880 --> 01:53:22.880 the six hundred for WS for the the Win. I 2264 01:53:22.880 --> 01:53:25.479 don't like those because the the five hundreds of thousands 2265 01:53:25.520 --> 01:53:27.000 or whatever it is of the same color. 2266 01:53:27.560 --> 01:53:31.399 I used to set in the eleven hundred dollars Mega satellite, 2267 01:53:31.479 --> 01:53:33.479 Milestone satellite, whatever the hell it is at the wind 2268 01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:36.000 the other day that I've never used before ever, I've 2269 01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:39.600 never even seen. And those are pretty good. They are 2270 01:53:39.760 --> 01:53:41.920 worlds better than whatever they use in the Prime and 2271 01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:45.960 the WPT World Championship. My biggest issue with the ones 2272 01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:47.920 that are used in the Prime and the WT World 2273 01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:51.640 Championship is like the brand person, the marketing person in 2274 01:53:51.680 --> 01:53:56.600 me is the printing on them. It's blurry yea like? 2275 01:53:56.960 --> 01:54:00.399 How like if I were to have purchased them and 2276 01:54:00.920 --> 01:54:03.159 got those, I would have immediately sent them back and 2277 01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:06.600 been like, no, redo these chips, What the hell is this? 2278 01:54:06.800 --> 01:54:11.239 I want crisp lettering, Like, come on them. 2279 01:54:11.279 --> 01:54:12.760 They don't have to pay for the full thing, so 2280 01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:13.319 that does help. 2281 01:54:13.439 --> 01:54:15.760 Well, I don't care. Come on, what is the win 2282 01:54:15.920 --> 01:54:16.560 is elite. 2283 01:54:17.039 --> 01:54:18.880 Yeah, the wind normal set is elate. 2284 01:54:20.159 --> 01:54:21.600 Yeah, the wind normal set is elite. 2285 01:54:22.399 --> 01:54:25.359 The Venetian colors the Venetian the colors of the chips 2286 01:54:26.079 --> 01:54:26.520 very good. 2287 01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:29.439 Well, the colors of the Venetian cash game chips. 2288 01:54:29.199 --> 01:54:30.159 Are no, we're not. 2289 01:54:32.279 --> 01:54:34.279 Yeah, so well we should give some thoughts to that 2290 01:54:34.319 --> 01:54:37.279 and then we'll talk about that ranking on the We. 2291 01:54:37.239 --> 01:54:42.479 Need accompanying pitches though, figure that out. Yeah, I mean 2292 01:54:42.560 --> 01:54:44.800 we probably have enough pitches on our phone. Yeah, we 2293 01:54:44.800 --> 01:54:47.680 can find it on social He's got a lot of 2294 01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:50.960 good chip sets too. Well, that should be a separate 2295 01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:57.119 it's separate ranking that should be ranked. We took photos 2296 01:54:57.119 --> 01:54:59.199 of all of them this year and there was like 2297 01:54:59.319 --> 01:55:01.760 thirty eight differ and chips, so like that's its arm rank. 2298 01:55:01.840 --> 01:55:03.640 I will say that the ones in Paradise have They've 2299 01:55:03.680 --> 01:55:05.520 been growing on me. I don't like, I don't know 2300 01:55:05.600 --> 01:55:07.319 how they feel. I don't know how they look up close, 2301 01:55:07.399 --> 01:55:10.600 but I'm starting to really dig them looking at the 2302 01:55:10.600 --> 01:55:14.039 streams and sad and I also think they fit the vibe, 2303 01:55:14.159 --> 01:55:16.560 you know, they look they look like you're supposed to 2304 01:55:16.560 --> 01:55:21.199 be in the Bahamas. So yeah, that's good. We also 2305 01:55:21.199 --> 01:55:24.520 want to hit on a family pot because of course, 2306 01:55:24.600 --> 01:55:28.079 why not. It's holiday season. Sure, so let's play the 2307 01:55:28.159 --> 01:55:29.840 music for that one, and then we'll come on back 2308 01:55:29.880 --> 01:55:31.159 and we'll give a family pot. 2309 01:55:31.399 --> 01:55:32.079 It's time for. 2310 01:55:36.840 --> 01:55:45.319 Family, all right. So I had my whole Bravo con 2311 01:55:45.359 --> 01:55:48.199 situation that I talked about, you know, the whole twenty 2312 01:55:48.239 --> 01:55:50.000 five hundred dollars. I don't know if you can see this, 2313 01:55:50.359 --> 01:55:52.640 but here my lover Boy hat. This is a twenty 2314 01:55:52.640 --> 01:55:55.800 five hundred Bravo Con hat. This is my my uh my, 2315 01:55:57.000 --> 01:55:59.640 you pay twenty well no, but my my wife went 2316 01:55:59.680 --> 01:56:02.199 to the event and you know, obviously paid twenty five 2317 01:56:02.239 --> 01:56:04.039 hundred dollars, but she brought me this hat. So I 2318 01:56:04.079 --> 01:56:04.920 feel like I won. 2319 01:56:07.159 --> 01:56:07.399 Boy. 2320 01:56:09.279 --> 01:56:11.439 Kyle from Summerhouse has. 2321 01:56:11.119 --> 01:56:13.399 A brand, like I'm supposed to know that name. 2322 01:56:13.479 --> 01:56:16.520 No, I'm just talking to the people. Kyle from Summerhouse 2323 01:56:16.520 --> 01:56:20.560 has a brand. It's like a I don't even know, 2324 01:56:20.680 --> 01:56:22.479 Like I don't even know what to call them. Lover boy, 2325 01:56:22.479 --> 01:56:23.439 it's like an alcoholic drink. 2326 01:56:23.439 --> 01:56:24.880 It's like a truly got it. 2327 01:56:27.079 --> 01:56:30.560 But yeah, so I'm repping the band brand right here, 2328 01:56:30.640 --> 01:56:34.399 lover boy. It's amazing. When I was in line the 2329 01:56:34.439 --> 01:56:37.159 other day to register for an event at the wind. 2330 01:56:37.920 --> 01:56:39.800 The woman was like, love your hat. I said, oh 2331 01:56:39.800 --> 01:56:41.720 you're you're a fan. She's like, oh yeah, I know 2332 01:56:41.760 --> 01:56:44.439 exactly what that is. I was like, perfect, I'm in there, 2333 01:56:44.600 --> 01:56:47.560 let's go. Basically, this cost me twenty five hundred dollars. 2334 01:56:48.039 --> 01:56:51.720 All right, So my family pot involves a little family 2335 01:56:51.760 --> 01:56:56.359 trip out to Enchant, which is at the Las Vegas Ballpark. 2336 01:56:56.439 --> 01:56:59.720 Here in Vegas. We try and go, I think every 2337 01:56:59.800 --> 01:57:04.119 single year. My wife just texted me because she's upstairs working, 2338 01:57:04.119 --> 01:57:06.760 and she said, it's a seltzer. That's the word that 2339 01:57:06.840 --> 01:57:11.479 I couldn't think of lovably. So anyway, I've never had one. Though, 2340 01:57:11.479 --> 01:57:12.640 I have no idea if they're good or not, but 2341 01:57:12.840 --> 01:57:14.960 I'm gonna take everyone's word for it and say that 2342 01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:18.960 they're decent. So anyway, we go to in Chant the 2343 01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:20.359 other night my parents are in town and make a 2344 01:57:20.399 --> 01:57:21.960 whole thing out of it. Bring the kids, blah blah 2345 01:57:21.960 --> 01:57:25.479 blah whatever. They turned the whole Las Vegas Ballpark into 2346 01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:29.880 basically a giant Christmas village. They got trees, lights, The 2347 01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:32.399 sole center part of the ballpark is it's a it's 2348 01:57:32.439 --> 01:57:35.600 a maze, you know, holiday vibes are going. They got 2349 01:57:35.640 --> 01:57:38.359 shops all around they got food games, you know, the 2350 01:57:38.359 --> 01:57:44.880 whole thing. This year they had a new giant slide thing, 2351 01:57:44.920 --> 01:57:49.319 a tube slide, which was yeah, multiple stories. You know, 2352 01:57:49.399 --> 01:57:52.720 you get on a tube, you go down, it's like 2353 01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:57.640 snow and ice mostly ice whatever. Cool. Fine, my daughter 2354 01:57:57.720 --> 01:58:00.119 really wanted to go on it. She locks in working 2355 01:57:59.960 --> 01:58:04.199 to go great. I'm like, I'll take her, fine, whatever. 2356 01:58:04.800 --> 01:58:08.279 So I'm also just gonna say that I already know 2357 01:58:08.319 --> 01:58:10.840 what people are gonna say about this story, about this 2358 01:58:10.960 --> 01:58:14.399 version of family pot but I'm just gonna say upfront 2359 01:58:14.479 --> 01:58:19.119 that it's completely on me for ignoring my parental instincts. Okay, 2360 01:58:19.600 --> 01:58:21.920 that is that. You know, I listened to a four 2361 01:58:21.920 --> 01:58:23.479 and a half year old. I should not have done 2362 01:58:23.520 --> 01:58:27.079 that as a forty one year old man. But here 2363 01:58:27.119 --> 01:58:30.560 I am. So that said, I will not continue. We 2364 01:58:30.600 --> 01:58:33.279 do the whole ticket thing, We get in line, the 2365 01:58:33.319 --> 01:58:36.039 line's like, you know, winding around the whole thing whatever. 2366 01:58:36.680 --> 01:58:39.319 It's like looking like, okay, we're gonna be here ten fifteen, 2367 01:58:39.359 --> 01:58:42.560 maybe twenty minutes whatever. Five minutes in she starts like 2368 01:58:43.039 --> 01:58:45.560 doing the wiggle. We all know, the freaking wiggle. I 2369 01:58:45.640 --> 01:58:46.359 know she has to go. 2370 01:58:46.279 --> 01:58:46.880 To the bathroom. 2371 01:58:47.279 --> 01:58:49.399 I'm like, okay, you have to go to the bathroom. 2372 01:58:49.800 --> 01:58:51.840 She says yes. I'm like, okay, we have to get 2373 01:58:51.840 --> 01:58:53.439 out of line, obviously, go to the bathroom. She doesn't 2374 01:58:53.439 --> 01:58:54.720 want to get on a line because she wants to 2375 01:58:54.760 --> 01:58:56.840 go on the slide. I'm like, well, why don't we 2376 01:58:56.880 --> 01:58:58.840 just go to the bathroom, we'll come back, we'll wait again, whatever. 2377 01:58:58.920 --> 01:59:00.840 She doesn't want to get out. She's adamant that she'll 2378 01:59:00.880 --> 01:59:03.840 be fine, and again she's four and a half. This 2379 01:59:03.880 --> 01:59:05.640 is where I screwed up because I just said, no, 2380 01:59:06.119 --> 01:59:08.079 we're just going to the bathroom. We don't go to 2381 01:59:08.119 --> 01:59:11.279 the bathroom. I can't believe it, but I actually trusted 2382 01:59:11.279 --> 01:59:14.479 her judgment in this situation, and my kind of my 2383 01:59:14.520 --> 01:59:17.800 thought process was like, well, maybe i'll just wait like 2384 01:59:17.840 --> 01:59:19.760 a couple of minutes and see if she gets better. 2385 01:59:20.359 --> 01:59:23.520 Two three minutes later, whatever the heck, she's like wiggling again. 2386 01:59:23.680 --> 01:59:25.319 I'm like, okay, we got to go to the bathroom. 2387 01:59:25.359 --> 01:59:27.520 So now I'm just now I'm like, okay, we're going 2388 01:59:27.520 --> 01:59:29.479 to the bathroom, like end of story. But she doesn't 2389 01:59:29.479 --> 01:59:31.039 want to go. She starts kind of throwing a little fit. 2390 01:59:31.119 --> 01:59:32.520 She doesn't want to go. She's like, no, I'll be fine, 2391 01:59:32.520 --> 01:59:34.840 I'll be fine. I'll be fine, and she stops the wiggling. 2392 01:59:34.880 --> 01:59:36.680 She's just standing there. I'm like, okay, maybe I'll give 2393 01:59:36.720 --> 01:59:39.000 her another three to five minutes and whatever. And of 2394 01:59:39.039 --> 01:59:41.039 course I'm in my head, I'm like, well, we're wasting 2395 01:59:41.039 --> 01:59:42.640 ten minutes in the line. We're gonna have to get 2396 01:59:42.680 --> 01:59:44.319 out go to the bathroom eventually, and then we're gonna 2397 01:59:44.279 --> 01:59:45.880 have to come back and wait back in the line. 2398 01:59:45.880 --> 01:59:47.439 So it's just kind of the whole thing's just annoying 2399 01:59:47.439 --> 01:59:51.680 to me already anyway. Whatever, So I'm like, all right, well, 2400 01:59:51.800 --> 01:59:56.319 let's just see how things play out. We go through 2401 01:59:56.359 --> 01:59:58.079 the whole line. She's good the rest of the way, 2402 01:59:58.239 --> 02:00:00.239 no more wiggling. She doesn't bring up a to go 2403 02:00:00.279 --> 02:00:02.920 to the bathroom. She can tell. She's like getting excited 2404 02:00:02.960 --> 02:00:06.920 to go on the slides. Cool, you get a wristband, 2405 02:00:07.000 --> 02:00:10.279 you get three slides with the ticket. So she doesn't 2406 02:00:10.279 --> 02:00:11.920 know you get three slides with the ticket. I do. 2407 02:00:12.039 --> 02:00:14.119 And I'm like, okay, we'll go once and then I'll 2408 02:00:14.119 --> 02:00:16.199 go to the bathroom and maybe she'll be done with 2409 02:00:16.239 --> 02:00:18.960 the slides. Maybe she won't, but we'll see how the 2410 02:00:18.960 --> 02:00:22.720 first one goes. Worst case, we have to like go 2411 02:00:22.760 --> 02:00:24.279 to the bathroom and then come back and finish our 2412 02:00:24.279 --> 02:00:27.159 two more. If we don't, then you know, I only 2413 02:00:27.199 --> 02:00:29.319 went once, I paid for three times. Who cares, I'll 2414 02:00:29.319 --> 02:00:32.960 burn twenty bucks. It's not the end of the world. Again, 2415 02:00:33.039 --> 02:00:34.760 I'm feeling good. I just made some money back with 2416 02:00:34.760 --> 02:00:40.199 this twenty five hundred oars hat so gravy in my life. Also, 2417 02:00:40.359 --> 02:00:43.560 like this tube slide thing is like everyone goes by themselves, 2418 02:00:44.039 --> 02:00:45.920 like all the kids go by themselves. So she's got 2419 02:00:45.960 --> 02:00:47.640 to go by herself. So there's a chance she might 2420 02:00:47.680 --> 02:00:50.840 just like freak out, get completely scared, and then never 2421 02:00:50.880 --> 02:00:53.600 want to go on it again. So whatever. We get 2422 02:00:53.680 --> 02:00:55.199 up to the top, you got to climb up like 2423 02:00:55.359 --> 02:00:57.640 three flights of stairs. You get to the top platform, 2424 02:00:58.079 --> 02:01:00.680 I put her in her tube, I push her down, 2425 02:01:00.800 --> 02:01:03.560 I go down, boom, everything's cool. She's like she was 2426 02:01:03.600 --> 02:01:06.119 both at the bottom like I'm scared. I was scared, 2427 02:01:06.439 --> 02:01:09.239 but I liked it. She wanted to go again, like okay, fine, 2428 02:01:09.840 --> 02:01:11.920 no incidence with the bathroom. I'm like, okay, I think 2429 02:01:11.920 --> 02:01:14.359 we're in the clear. Fine, back up the stairs we go. 2430 02:01:14.479 --> 02:01:16.399 We got our tubes. We're at the very top. Now 2431 02:01:17.279 --> 02:01:19.199 I'm like setting up the two tubes. You just put 2432 02:01:19.199 --> 02:01:21.359 them down at the top and then you sit in them. 2433 02:01:21.359 --> 02:01:25.000 As I'm setting the tubes down, she starts yelling, Daddy, daddy, 2434 02:01:25.159 --> 02:01:30.520 I'm pean. I turn around. It is like a waterfall 2435 02:01:31.199 --> 02:01:33.239 coming out of the bottom of her coat, bottom of 2436 02:01:33.239 --> 02:01:36.439 her dress, all over like her pants. It's just like 2437 02:01:36.520 --> 02:01:39.439 streaming down her legs. I'm just like, oh my god, 2438 02:01:39.520 --> 02:01:43.960 like what is happening. I'm kind of like looking around 2439 02:01:44.039 --> 02:01:45.920 to see if well, first, I'm like looking around to 2440 02:01:45.920 --> 02:01:48.840 see if anyone's noticing. No one's noticing. Everyone's like putting 2441 02:01:48.880 --> 02:01:51.840 their stuff in their tubes. There's one like employee on 2442 02:01:51.880 --> 02:01:53.840 the platform. He's like on the other side. He could 2443 02:01:53.880 --> 02:01:56.520 give two craps about what is actually happening on the platform. 2444 02:01:56.680 --> 02:01:58.720 Like I could have like ripped my clothes off and 2445 02:01:58.760 --> 02:02:02.079 like went down naked and he would have not cared anyway. 2446 02:02:02.359 --> 02:02:04.520 So she's freaking out. So I'm like, okay, whatever. So 2447 02:02:04.560 --> 02:02:06.159 I'm just like I'm basically like, okay, well, I'll just 2448 02:02:06.199 --> 02:02:09.399 let her pee, Okay, So I just let her pee, 2449 02:02:09.640 --> 02:02:11.359 and then what am I gonna do? Like all these 2450 02:02:11.359 --> 02:02:14.199 people are like coming up this like narrow staircase and 2451 02:02:14.239 --> 02:02:16.560 everyone's got tubes, and the tubes are big, you can't 2452 02:02:16.560 --> 02:02:19.039 really go down. So I'm like, well, okay, our only 2453 02:02:19.079 --> 02:02:23.560 way down is gotta get in the tubes, right, okay. Whatever. 2454 02:02:24.000 --> 02:02:28.439 So I put her in the in the thing in 2455 02:02:28.520 --> 02:02:32.880 the in the tube, and I just push her down 2456 02:02:33.000 --> 02:02:37.800 and then I go down right behind and I get 2457 02:02:37.840 --> 02:02:41.119 down to the bottom, and I'm like, okay, like we 2458 02:02:41.239 --> 02:02:43.359 made it, like whatever. But she's like she's not getting 2459 02:02:43.399 --> 02:02:45.079 out of the tube, and so like she's in front 2460 02:02:45.079 --> 02:02:46.359 of me, and I'm just like, oh my god, she's 2461 02:02:46.359 --> 02:02:49.039 probably peeing again. Probably the fact that now she's scared 2462 02:02:49.079 --> 02:02:51.560 and she's freaking out, she's whatever. So I like have 2463 02:02:51.600 --> 02:02:54.439 to like lift her up. Then I realize that these 2464 02:02:54.479 --> 02:02:57.960 tubes aren't like your normal tubes. They have like this 2465 02:02:58.039 --> 02:03:00.000 kind of cover on them where the bottom is all 2466 02:03:00.000 --> 02:03:03.239 also rubber, so the whole thing is basically like a 2467 02:03:03.279 --> 02:03:07.640 pool of p Now, so I'm just like, holy shit, what, 2468 02:03:07.960 --> 02:03:09.800 Like I am such an idiot of a parent, Like 2469 02:03:09.840 --> 02:03:12.680 what am I doing? She's covered in pe, she's she's 2470 02:03:12.840 --> 02:03:14.960 walking like she's a cowboy who's been on a horse 2471 02:03:15.000 --> 02:03:17.399 for twelve hours. Like she's like she can't move, you know, 2472 02:03:17.439 --> 02:03:19.439 like she's got wooden legs, and like the whole I'm 2473 02:03:19.479 --> 02:03:21.840 trying to find someone. No one's around, Like it's just 2474 02:03:21.840 --> 02:03:24.199 this whole thing. So then I like I'm trying to 2475 02:03:24.239 --> 02:03:27.920 walk off, and like where this thing is in the ballpark. 2476 02:03:28.039 --> 02:03:30.640 There's like this big walkway like up top, and like 2477 02:03:30.720 --> 02:03:33.439 everyone's like watching everyone go down these things, watching their friends, 2478 02:03:33.439 --> 02:03:36.039 their family members, whatever, And I'm just there, like literally 2479 02:03:36.159 --> 02:03:39.119 dumping out a tube full of p and everyone's probably 2480 02:03:39.119 --> 02:03:41.840 looking at me like, who the f is this a hole? 2481 02:03:42.119 --> 02:03:44.199 And what the hell is going on? The whole thing 2482 02:03:44.359 --> 02:03:48.600 was just just it was It was incredible. But again 2483 02:03:48.680 --> 02:03:50.800 it's it's largely my fault because I should have just 2484 02:03:50.800 --> 02:03:53.319 took her to the bathroom. I trusted her not to 2485 02:03:53.359 --> 02:03:56.640 go and that was my era there. But holy hell. 2486 02:03:58.399 --> 02:04:03.319 So that's it. Welcome to enchant. I find a guy 2487 02:04:03.359 --> 02:04:05.439 on the I find a guy. What's that? 2488 02:04:05.720 --> 02:04:07.520 Welcome to parent Yeah exactly. 2489 02:04:07.560 --> 02:04:09.720 I find a guy on the end at the end, 2490 02:04:09.800 --> 02:04:12.920 and I'm like, listen, this is what happened. Whatever I mean, 2491 02:04:12.960 --> 02:04:15.800 he could be he could not have been any less 2492 02:04:15.840 --> 02:04:18.399 interested in what the hell was going on. He's like, 2493 02:04:18.439 --> 02:04:21.079 just go put it behind the shed over there, I'm like, okay, 2494 02:04:21.079 --> 02:04:22.960 so I like, go put the two behind the shed. 2495 02:04:23.439 --> 02:04:26.039 Then I have to bring my daughter out. We have 2496 02:04:26.079 --> 02:04:29.239 to obviously get her changed. My wife goes into the 2497 02:04:29.239 --> 02:04:32.560 bathroom to take her or change. She comes out. She's 2498 02:04:32.600 --> 02:04:35.920 wearing my wife's shirt as like a dress now because 2499 02:04:35.960 --> 02:04:38.359 like all her clothes and everything were coming. It was 2500 02:04:38.359 --> 02:04:41.760 just the whole thing was a disaster. But but she 2501 02:04:41.800 --> 02:04:44.439 loved the slide. She had a good time. So I guess, 2502 02:04:44.479 --> 02:04:45.880 so I guess you know, it was just a little 2503 02:04:45.880 --> 02:04:51.479 bit of pee whatever, no big deal. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, 2504 02:04:51.800 --> 02:04:54.039 you got a family. Potter was the only one I 2505 02:04:54.119 --> 02:04:57.720 do not. Okay, Well, you know, bravo kan last time, 2506 02:04:58.079 --> 02:05:00.279 uh you know, peeing at the top of the tube 2507 02:05:00.279 --> 02:05:03.119 slide it enchant this time. Lord only knows what the 2508 02:05:03.159 --> 02:05:07.000 hell's gonna happen next time, but you know, we'll figure 2509 02:05:07.000 --> 02:05:08.279 it out as we go. 2510 02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:13.800 I had something similar once for a ferris wheel, and 2511 02:05:13.840 --> 02:05:15.840 we got up to the top or near the top, 2512 02:05:15.880 --> 02:05:18.079 and then we just went We just left went to 2513 02:05:18.199 --> 02:05:20.119 pay and then came back in line. But it wasn't 2514 02:05:20.159 --> 02:05:23.279 like in Chant with the line. There's probably hundreds of 2515 02:05:23.319 --> 02:05:25.800 people date. This was, you know, one spin in the 2516 02:05:25.800 --> 02:05:29.119 fairest wheel. So sometimes he's gonna make that gut decision right, 2517 02:05:29.159 --> 02:05:32.000 and you just sometimes doubt yourself on should you just 2518 02:05:32.039 --> 02:05:35.520 wait or should you, you know, stay stay in line. 2519 02:05:35.720 --> 02:05:37.039 I think that's gonna do it for us. What do 2520 02:05:37.079 --> 02:05:38.640 you think? You don't even know how long we've been? 2521 02:05:38.880 --> 02:05:41.600 Two hours? Oh my god, Rich is gonna kill me. 2522 02:05:42.159 --> 02:05:45.760 I can't wait? Sorry, Rich, Ryan, Well, it was a 2523 02:05:45.760 --> 02:05:46.439 great show though. 2524 02:05:46.600 --> 02:05:50.000 At least he doesn't have to edit the video, just audio. No, 2525 02:05:50.119 --> 02:05:50.439 I don't know. 2526 02:05:50.479 --> 02:05:51.680 Maybe we'll send them in the video too. 2527 02:05:51.720 --> 02:05:55.319 No, we from home sitting in the dock office. 2528 02:05:55.560 --> 02:05:58.159 Who cares. He'll frame it all nice. It'll be a whole. 2529 02:05:57.960 --> 02:05:59.800 Thing, not video. Rich. 2530 02:06:01.000 --> 02:06:03.439 Well, whatever, all right, that's gonna do it for us. 2531 02:06:03.439 --> 02:06:05.439 His name is Tim Duckworth, my name is Donnie Peters, 2532 02:06:05.479 --> 02:06:07.199 and we will talk to you guys next time. 2533 02:06:07.560 --> 02:06:18.159 So Yo, rednight, ja Express