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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. His name

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is Tim Duckworth. It is Tuesday, December sixteenth, right in

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the thick of it for all the heavy hitting poker

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that is going on, not only in Las Vegas but

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around the world. Tim and I are of course in

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Las Vegas and it's it's jam freaking packed here. But

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we're gonna lead off with ap Paradise because as far

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as I'm concerned, that's the leading story with everything that's

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going on right now. There's a lot of dobysipy news

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that dropped this week today. You know, we got dobasip

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Paradise hitting their guarantee prize pulls in. They're on to

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day three in the supermin event. All that sort of

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stuff we got was b Europe news that came out.

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We have WSIP Player of the Year news that came out.

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So we're gonna hit on all of that stuff and

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then we're gonna get into the WPT World Championship. We

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got to talk some community cards, which I actually have

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no idea what we're talking in regards to community cards,

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but you know what Tim said, We're talking community cards,

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and then we got a family pop because why not, right,

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why freaking not. If you're listening, of course, please favorite

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I might as well mention right now off the top,

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starting Tuesday, December twenty third. Again that is exclusively on

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poker Go. All right, first news item of the day,

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we got the super Duper super Duper super Duper main

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event down in the Bahamas. Tim is just shaking his

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head because he thinks I'm an idiot, which I am. Yes,

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the w SIP Paradise, this super main event. It is

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a PGT qualifying event. It attracted two thousand, eight hundred

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and ninety one entries twenty six thousand dollars buying, so

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twenty five thousand plus one thousand. It had a sixty

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million dollar guarantee. There was a lot of talk going

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in on whether they would hit the guarantee. A lot

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of people for them, it wasn't the question of whether

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or not they would hit the guarantee. It was more

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question of how short would they come, because sixty million

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dollars is a lot of goddamn money. But they hit it,

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and they hit it pretty comfortably. More than seventy two

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million dollars in the prize pool. This is the biggest

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prize pool in poker history outside of the WSP Main Event.

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Of course, the WSP Main Event tops all the charts.

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And then I think I saw I want to say,

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friend of the podcast, Jeff Platt, I think I saw

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a video with him saying that this is the eighth

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largest event ever in terms of price pool, in the

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history of the game. So really big stuff coming out

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of the Bahamas. I guess the first question or discussion

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here is I'll throw it to you with this is

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Are we surprised? Are you surprised that it it hits

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I guess both the guarantee and then also this big

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of a price bowl ending up over seventy million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's obviously a lot of chatter about

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it overlaying. I was never really worried about it overlaying.

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I always thought they would sneak in make it just

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kind of like they did last year with the fifty

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million guarantee. But for it to just hit it and

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keep going and hit seventy two million is pretty pretty astronomical,

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very surprising that they would get that many. And you know,

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you're following the action, you know, from you know, from

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your computer, from your phone, and you know the way

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that action was playing out on social media with the

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you know, Daniel mcgrond obviously calling it out the most

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on in the's vlogs with people in for ten bull,

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it's twelve bull, it's fourteen bull, It's all these kind

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of crazy numbers. You just saw that. Yeah, look, this

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is going to get pretty messy, pretty crazy for these people.

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And yeah, they once they broke through, they just couldn't stop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is very very polarizing around the poker community.

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You know, you pointed out some of the stuff on

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social media, you know, just talking with a lot of

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people at the various tables that I've been playing at

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this month, it's the same sort of chatter where you know,

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some people think it's good and awesome, other people think

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it's just way too wild and crazy and unsustainable, you know.

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I mean, we've heard numbers of people being in ten, twelve,

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fifteen bullets, as you said, and it's quite insane to

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think of it that way. I don't think I'm surprise

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that they hit the guarantee. I think I aligned with

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you in the fact that you know, this probably would

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have come in if I were to guess, I would

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have said between sixty and sixty five that would have

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been audience. But you know, given the fact that I

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thought the day one a number was really really good.

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I think there was like twelve hundred or something entries

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in there. And also honestly, with the way that they

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kind of finagled this this schedule, which is a very

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interesting case study. You know, this is the first time

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that I've seen a tournament do in opening flight structure

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like this. And for those that don't know what they

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did in the Bahamas is they had four starting flights,

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but they played the first two, then they played. Then

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everyone that survived those first two flights played their Day two,

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which made it into the money. So and then there

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was two more starting flights, and then those two starting

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flights had their own Day two, and then everyone later

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on combined for Day three. So if you bagged Day

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one A and then you got a day off and

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then you played Day one or Day two A, you

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bag that, then you would have two days or three

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days off then you would come back. So it's kind

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of like a nice break in there. It could also

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allowed you to cash the event twice, which is an

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interesting little twist and a little bit weird. You know,

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like you could cash day you know, two A because

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they made the money on the day twos. Then if

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you busted after you made the money, you could obviously

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then fire multiple bullets afterwards. So there was that, But

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it's also like, you know, let's say you put a

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bunch of bullets in or whatever. Even if you put

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one bullet in, you get to day two, you kind

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of think, oh, in a normal schedule that we commonly

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see is that, well, okay, I made it past registration.

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I made it to day two, like I'm I'm going

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forward like this is it? But not in this tournament.

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You know, you could play that day too, you could

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bust and then you could hop back in you know,

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later on. So obviously the structure is more shallow in

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the day two stage. So the whole thing kind of

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generated a lot of re entries overall.

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Speaker 2: You also have to mention the you know, like you said,

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you cash on day two one hundred In total the

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people in the money on day two A was two

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hundred and thirty three. One hundred and twenty five of

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those cashed and were eliminated. Obviously, the men cash is

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two x the buy and it's fifty thousand dollars. You

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also have the promotions where if you had cash in

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the main event, you would get an extra twenty five k.

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So this technically probably a decent amount of people that

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cash and were eliminated that you know, essentially won three buyants, right,

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they get the fifty k, plus they get the twenty

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five So you know, we would have to find those

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numbers somehow, but I would say a good chunk at

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the one twenty five probably jumped in, you know, one

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c or one D or even on day two B

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and that's what helps push that number up with that

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sixty million. Obviously, this concept is very new to poker

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in gen Or obviously wasn't part of Lasius supermin So

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that obviously gives them, you know, a bit more wiggle

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room to up that guarantee to the sixty and then,

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you know, knowing this concept, we might as well say,

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now we probably see the guarantee even move up next

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year slightly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's also something where I'm curious if

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we see one this schedule concept start to take place

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in other WSP events, most specifically during the summer. Not

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that they would ever do this, I don't think for

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the WSP main event, because that would entail making the

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WSP main events a re entry, which I don't think

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that they'll ever do. But do you start to see

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it for you know, I don't know the Colossus or

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the Milli Maker or the Monsters, you know, anything like that, right,

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I think.

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Speaker 2: We already see it in those events in a way,

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like the Mystery Millions and the Colossus, he played to

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the money you cash. Then they play a little deeper,

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so like in the Colossus where there's four flights, you

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can cash four times. You know, it's not the same

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version of this where you know, we know what the

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classics is. It's a little bit of a crap shoot.

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It's quick, it's fast, it's for you know, the U

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and me's of the world. While this obviously a twenty

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five K, you can't really play to the money on

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day one in a twenty five K, So I think

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this concept is very.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen this structure is pretty fast? Yeah? Sure,

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but I mean they could have honestly played to the

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money in the tournament. Why not?

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Speaker 2: I think this is perfect for this event, and this

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event only twenty five K Superman, you know, hey, why

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not out of day two C as well? Why you're

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at it? You know, like or you know what, maybe

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a better option is three day ones than the two

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A than three day ones, you know, then the two

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than the two B, and you could actually run that

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one D right on day two A.

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Speaker 1: I got a crazy idea, what if you did the

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first three starting flights in Vegas during the summer. Yeah,

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you could do that, said, hey guys, yeah, you all backchips,

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we'll see in the Bahamas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could do that, you know, essentially you could

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do that. Probably what the day off of the main

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final table and then the two final table days, that's

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probably a good time to do it, you know that.

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Speaker 1: Right, everyone's looking for everyone's trying to play some stuff,

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right like I mean, it's in a way as a

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satellite to that tournament. You know, they do plenty of

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the stuff where you know, you play that, you play

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the day ones or whatever online, right, or you play

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the qualifiers online, same sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: The only problem is you would have to there's two things. Well,

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the best thing is that, let's say they did a

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seventy five million dollar guarantee, you could probably knock off

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twenty million in Vegas, So that's probably pretty good. They'll

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give them a little bit of ease. The second thing, though,

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this is where it gets tricky, I think, and you know,

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maybe you disagree with me here. You would probably have

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to play to the money, but then also pull some

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money out of the prize pool for travel like or

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pre pay something like pre pay travel expenses. The difference

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with Bahamas is you're already there. You've already either won

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a package or you paid your accommodation. Like you think

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of all the packages that people won or gave out.

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The value was thirty thousand, right, five thousand for accommodation

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and travel. So now if you're going to win your

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seat live, you know, in Vegas, just like you have

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to think of as a normal satellite Like when I

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won my WSP Main Events seat in Australia. You know,

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I won the seat plus travel and accommodation. So I

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think you would have to get a little finicky with

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the payouts or like get creative with how you can

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ensure people go and play. You know, you could also

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make it very simple. You've made the money. I'm not

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paying you out unless you put your ass in the

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seat in paradise, which is fair enough. Right do you

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cash for fifty k? You know? All right, fine, I'll

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spend three thousand dollars on flights and accommodation, get myself

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down there so I can make sit down ask cash

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out fifty k.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, what were they didn't they do I

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don't think I don't think they did it this year.

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But last year they had some day one flights online

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they Yeah, and then you got into like day three

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or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were expedited to day three, so.

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Speaker 1: You do something like that. It's just only in the

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live setting.

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Speaker 2: Look, WSP, it's a new animal this year, next year,

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GG poker can do whatever they want. They can get

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very creative here. Like you said, they can do stuff

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like this where you fast chuck the live players straight

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into to day three. You can you know, they have

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gg poker, but they also have WSP dot com. Why

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not do the same thing with WWSP dot dot com.

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Maybe it's not twenty five k pius point, maybe it's

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a much smaller price point, but it gets you to

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the day two. You can do lots of things, you know,

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like there's a there is a strategic plan right where

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we could see this being one hundred million dollar guarantee.

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Now it's not going to happen. Well, it could happen

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next year, but you have to put the things in

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motion and really kind of coordinate everything. When I say everything,

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i'm talking you know, we're we're going to touch on

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a bit later. But WSP Europe in April. Then you

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got to coordinate WSP Vegas, You've got to coordinate GG

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poker online, WSP dot com online, and then obviously Paradise

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being the biggest one. But you can definitely push this

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to being one hundred million dollar guarantee super main event

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in the Bahamas with planning and not just giving out,

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you know, fifty million dollars in seats. I think they

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can get there organically in a way.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious if because I know, you know, when the

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WPT partnered with when they came out with their big guarantee,

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they obviously update a ton to forty million the next year,

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and a lot of the discussion and I think we

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probably even talked about it on this podcast, and I

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know we talked about it even off the podcast for sure.

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But you know, the question is does it ever over

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overtake the ws AP main event in Las Vegas? Now

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that's obviously too well this let me set it up

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a little bit more. Is that you know that event,

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the WPD World Championship, that's competitor verse competitor, Like they're

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going head to head here. I mean, it's it's internal, right,

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So is that the plan here? You know? Are what

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are they what are they trying to do? Ws A.

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It's just it's very interesting to be both an industry

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insider and also a fan and kind of just watching

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this all unfold because I mean, it seems like it

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seems to me that there was a lot more promotional

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effort put into the ws AP Paradise Super Main Event

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than there was the WASP Main Event in Las Vegas. Now,

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of course you kind of have to do that because

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one of them has a big ass guarantee you got

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to hit, and the other one, the other one doesn't

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and really has a really solid, solid, excuse me, solid

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foundation that you kind of just like, you know, at

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this point, you know, barring any like insane outcomes or

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you know, happenings in the world that the WASP man

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event is Las Vegas is probably nine thousand players at

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its floor, like stone floor, you know. So so it's interesting, right,

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you know, because to your point, if they if they

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start to grow this thing, let's say, seventy five million

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next year, one hundred million the year after that, and

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they really start, you know, ramping it up, it starts

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to kind of overtake the WSP Main Event in Las Vegas.

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And there's a little bit more flexibility with with doing

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things in the Bahamas, you know. You know, GG poker

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has done a lot to uh make some innovations here

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in the US, but the US Gaming industry also has

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a lot of regulations that you have to abide by.

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You know, you can't just like come in here and

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start firing Crypto in his buyings like stuff like that,

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whereas like in the Bahamas, it's like you can kind

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of do whatever you want. So it's a little bit freer. Now,

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there's obviously positives and there's negatives to every sort of thing.

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I'm just I'm just already starting like the wheels in

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my head are starting to turn, like what does this

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thing look like? Because it's clearly now become this behemoth

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that is, you know, legitimately here, and it looks like

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it's here to stay. And you know, now it's like

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how big does it grow? And is it going to

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overtake the SPMN event in Las Vegas? And that is

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that the plan internally? I mean, I don't think we're

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ever gonna know the actual plan, but is that just

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kind of that natural progression here, you know. So I'm

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just I guess I'm kind of curious just to see

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how it all plays out.

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Speaker 2: They could do whatever they want for this event four

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hundred million dollars guaranteed never ever be better than the

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WSP main event here in Las Vegas. You can see that,

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I'm sorry, there's some purity to that event. Really that

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every man, right, the Tim Duckworth of the world, that

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can jump in on the buzzer on day two D

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with their ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but you also do realize that if it were

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to come to that, they could literally can't they own

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them one in Vegas? They could say, like.

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Speaker 2: They don't change it. I'm saying, let's pretends it stays

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as it is. There is the purity of the freeze

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out aspect, there's the history, the lineage of fifty odd

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years of w Suputer edition. It's the one, you know.

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Let's also talk about just the ease of getting to Vegas.

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I can jump on a Southwest flight, I can drive

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from California, can catch a damn bullet train in a

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couple of years probably right, put up my ten thousand

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dollars play. If I'm buss, I go home. If I

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make it through, I continue. There's it's really hard to

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kind of defeat that. And now let's let's pretend it

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stays at Atlantis. You know, if we remove all the

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poker stuff from Atlantis, there's still a lot of negativity

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with that. Now there's the it's the food, the service,

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you know, the slowness of the service too. Now if

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they decide to move to Baha Mah, does Atlantis, Mate does?

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Does Gigi Poker? Just buy Atlantis and say look, let's

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make this better. Sure that's possibility too.

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Speaker 1: Now that's je Poker Island.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that could happen. Now, I think that could change

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things a lot and a more positive site. I just

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don't think this event as it is, twenty five k

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buying a gazillion re entries really appeals to the greater

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player pool that is poker. And that's okay. Because they

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have the Las Vegas main event, they have other opportunities.

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This appeals to, you know, let's let's be real high

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stakes poker players and that's okay. It has its place

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on the poker schedule, on the poker calendar, and it

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appeals to enough players and they're all there. Now, if

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you're the everyday person that only has that one buy in,

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I'll see you. I'll see you in July and Vegas.

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You know, if you're you know, more of a value.

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You know, you look at all the people here playing

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the WPT event that we thought, Hey, they may be

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over at Bahamas, but are not that appeals to them.

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I think there's enough difference between what's going on on

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the schedule, whether it's you know, the WSP versus WPT

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debate or just the WSP Paradise versus WSP Vegas debate.

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So I don't think you know, it will ever ever

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take over the Las Vegas main event, unless you know,

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they decide to just click cancel on it, or they,

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you know, like I said, by Atlantis and hire a

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million people to run the restaurants and speed things up

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or make it. You know, I think you said it

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the other day. Isn't it like seven hundred five hundred

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dollars a night? That's pretty expensive for the for the

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the rex out there, and you know, just it just

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to me, nothing will have a have a bait the

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WSP main event.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm gonna walk back kind of

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my stance a little bit. I'm not saying I think

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it's going to be. I do agree with you, I would.

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I also wouldn't go as far as you you're saying

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never ever. I'll say it's always there's always a non

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zero chance, right, It is always a non zero chance.

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So I mean, I do think that kind of something

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you touched on a little bit, there is where I

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kind of end up going with it in that you know,

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I don't know, I feel like I'm a decent test

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case for this sort of stuff. To me, playing in

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the w SP Super Main Event and feeling like I

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have a shot seems unattainable, which I think is probably

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the biggest hurdle to overcome if you are trying to

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grow this event in terms of mass appeal, because I

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just think like like this year, like I'm looking at

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it and I'm like, well, you know, One, there's the

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hurdle of like if it's hard to travel for poker

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these days, especially to a place where it's going to

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cost you, you know, five hundred dollars plus a night

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or whatever it might be. You know, you know, food's

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expensive there, et cetera. Like that's that's hard. So there's

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that aspect to overcome. Second, I mean, twenty five K

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is a lot of freaking money to buy into a

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poker tournament. Like I will take one or two shots

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in a ten K year, you know, sell some action

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and get in there. But twenty five K is hard

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and then on top of that, it's not only like

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your random twenty five K or like a good feel

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the twenty five K. I mean this is I've been

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watching the coverage. I've been following all. I mean, it's

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killers after killers after killers, and even guys you don't know,

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you just know that they're killers from online. You're watching

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the hands that they're playing. You're like, what in the

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hell is going on here? And they have unlimited buy ins.

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So it's like the unattainability for for somebody like me

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or somebody that's more on the fence. I think it's

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it's hard, right, It's so it's I think if you're

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the w s AP, the hardest thing to again make

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this event more mass appeal is being able to like

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sell that dream. I don't I agree with you that,

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you know, I think this event has a place. Like

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you said, they have the WSP main event that's like

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the every every pokerman's dream to go play that tournament,

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and then here it's this is kind of like the

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high rollers dream, you know. I just I think it's

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hard to sell this to the everyman.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I think if you were to sell it to the everyman,

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you would have to make some changes. I think making

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it a freeze out is probably the number one change,

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you know, But then you go into the fact that, like, well,

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if it's a freeze out, how are we going to

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hit sixty million dollars or even fifty million dollars in

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a price play? How are you going to do that?

475
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And how you're gonna scalop that way? I mean, you're

476
00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:53,440
probably gonna just have to try and get five thousand

477
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,440
unique players down to the Bahamas. And that's in and

478
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,440
of itself in issue like it can can Atlantis even

479
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,680
how is five thousand players? You know, Like at that

480
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,519
point you start getting into all the logistical aspects of things.

481
00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:09,240
So it's just it's very interesting to see it all

482
00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:15,799
play out. I'm genuinely fascinated by it all, you know,

483
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,000
So I'm curious to see where it goes in the

484
00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:24,880
next two three years. In kind of the immediate surface,

485
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,920
it's definitely not going anywhere, you know. Some of this

486
00:26:28,039 --> 00:26:30,799
news that we'll get into next is why it's not

487
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,440
going anywhere. I Mean, they announced the dates for next

488
00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:36,720
year already. They have We'll get to the WSP Player

489
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,440
of the Year stuff, but that's going to be awarding

490
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,319
packages to the twenty twenty seven version of this, Like,

491
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,079
so this thing is here to stay, right, and as

492
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:50,519
I said, it's an absolute freaking behemoth. So I don't know. Also, like, yeah,

493
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:53,359
you're gonna get the guys, the you know, the Chidwick's,

494
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,160
the negran Who's you know, all these guys that are

495
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,640
going down there. Jesse Loanis et cetera firing eight nine

496
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,599
ten fabian gums fired ten bullets, like you know, all

497
00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:05,400
these guys are firing double digit bullets, you know, five

498
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,279
plus bullets at a minimum, all that sort of stuff.

499
00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:10,640
I think Jeremy Osmus fired what four bullets? Yeah, you know,

500
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,039
and he was like he feels good that he only

501
00:27:13,079 --> 00:27:16,759
had to fire four bullets type of thing. So, but

502
00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:18,960
do you lose the people that are that are turned

503
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,400
off by that? So the people that went down there

504
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,519
with a shot, right, you know, the people that might

505
00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:25,839
have been chasing like some of those bonuses that you mentioned,

506
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,359
the Paradise Parlay cash the main event in Vegas. Go

507
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,039
down there, you cash, you get another twenty five k

508
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,680
like stuff like that. Are you gonna are you gonna

509
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,200
lose those fringe people? And that's gonna be interesting to see.

510
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:38,839
Speaker 2: You know, you can still go there planning to fire

511
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,920
one bullet like.

512
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what But that's what I'm saying is that

513
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,680
the people that might think that do, they just end

514
00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:49,400
up not going because if they say, like, hey, I

515
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,000
can spend twenty five K or twenty six k, right

516
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:56,079
plus travel. Let's say I'm thirty k all in, because

517
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,279
that's the thing I'm getting at here. I can go

518
00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:00,359
thirty k on. I can go fire my one bullet

519
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,960
down there, cool right, or and this is where again

520
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,079
it goes back to the clashing events. I can go

521
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,960
to Vegas and WPT win, which is three flights freeze

522
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,759
out per flight ten k, and I'm basically in that

523
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,200
thing with a possible three chances if I need it

524
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,160
for the same exact amount of money buy and wise. Now,

525
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,640
of course you can win a lot more in the

526
00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:23,799
super main event because of the guarantee, the prize pool,

527
00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:25,640
all that sort of stuff, But then you also have

528
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,119
to factor in that, you know, the the WPT World

529
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,759
Championship is. I mean, I'm pretty confident to say that

530
00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:36,519
it's a much softer field and easier for you know,

531
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:40,960
lesser players. Not that I'm knocking everyone that's playing that

532
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,079
event just lesser than like, you know, like the super

533
00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:45,559
Wizards that are going to go down to play in Paradise.

534
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,400
So it's it's interesting in that regard, you know, so

535
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,480
so are the people that are the people that kind

536
00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:54,559
of you saw some stuff on social media that might

537
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:57,519
have you know, complained or mentioned the multi entry and

538
00:28:58,079 --> 00:29:00,680
the number that these guys are firing. Are those the

539
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,319
people that you're turning off and then you lose I

540
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:06,839
don't know, let's say four hundred unique players, three hundred

541
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,000
unique players, whatever it is, I don't know, because then

542
00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:14,960
you know, if you're somebody like a top pro and

543
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,160
you know that those one bullet people that you might

544
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,960
view as like the spots in the field, the soft spots,

545
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:23,440
if they're not coming, does that make it less advantageous

546
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,039
for you to then go. So it's just again, I'm

547
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:30,720
just really fascinated on how it all plays out. Ten

548
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,960
million dollars first place prize. The prize pool was officially

549
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,000
announced today that they did say that you know, they

550
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,599
got up over seventy two million. I think it was

551
00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:39,799
seventy million, two hundred and seventy five thousand in the

552
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:45,160
prize pool in total, they released the prize pool breakdown today,

553
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,839
ten million dollars for first it's very very similar at

554
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,480
the final table too, the DUBS main event in Las Vegas.

555
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,359
The first I think four spots are the exact same

556
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,359
ten million, six million, four million, three million, and then

557
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,519
fifth place here is two point three five I think

558
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:05,480
in Vegas it was two point four. Then you got

559
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:07,680
sixth place one point eight, you got seventh place one

560
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,000
point four, eighth place one point one, ninth place eight

561
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:12,200
hundred and fifty k, and I believe in Vegas ninth

562
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,039
place was a million. That was the big thing.

563
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:15,319
Speaker 2: It was exact same.

564
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, why not? I mean, you know, I

565
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,160
would bet that some of that had to do with

566
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:24,799
because it was very it was very kind of weird

567
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,759
with the payouts for this because like because of the

568
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:31,200
way they did the schedule, like you got to cash

569
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:34,640
on day two a right, but they have no idea

570
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,680
what the total prize pool is because there's still two

571
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,440
full flights plus that second day two and there's there's

572
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:42,799
entries in all of that. Yeah, so like you have

573
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,960
no idea. But then on the other side of things,

574
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,480
you guaranteed I think they guaranteed or at least they

575
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:50,240
might have said it. But a mint cash is worth

576
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:50,799
fifty k.

577
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is well all WSP events now the men

578
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,039
cash is two x.

579
00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: But what they did, but it's interesting to do that

580
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:00,759
without knowing like the full pay out in such a

581
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:01,759
big buy an event.

582
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:04,079
Speaker 2: They also did two pay jumps on day one a

583
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,359
sorry under day twos, which I don't think they needed

584
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,960
to do. I think they could have just kept it

585
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,160
a fifty k. I mean, you're not saving a lot

586
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:11,519
of money.

587
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:13,359
Speaker 1: You get a page on if you make day three.

588
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,279
Speaker 2: And then and then yeah, you just made like paid.

589
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:17,720
So now the men cash on day three, which was

590
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:20,519
seventy thousand, could have just been sixty thousand. So you're

591
00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:25,559
probably finding an extra half a million dollars, you know,

592
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:27,559
if you just change those payouts that you could have

593
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:30,240
put up to top up the top to get that

594
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:32,839
ninth place million dollars, bumped the other ones up a

595
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,880
little bit and kind of copy paste what we did

596
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,759
in Vegas.

597
00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:41,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the tournament's just wild. I don't know

598
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:45,759
what else to say. It's Tuesday, December sixteenth. Day three

599
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,640
is running down in the Bahamas. They started the day

600
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,160
with I believe two hundred and two players. They are

601
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:56,680
very much deep into that now. There was a flurry

602
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,319
of eliminations to start right away. They're under one hundred

603
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:02,920
players now in the field. Coming into the day, it

604
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:06,160
was Martin Cabrell who had the chip lead. Yes, the

605
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,519
loud guy, the obnoxious guy. Right now it is Faraz

606
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,839
Jaka who came into the day in the top ten.

607
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:16,200
He looks to be leading the way. Chad Eaves Sledge

608
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:19,000
also came into the day in the top ten. He's

609
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:22,960
up there crushing as well. Andy Wilson, a very good

610
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:25,319
British player, is up there in the top ten. It

611
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:28,960
looks like Daniel Rozai who won a w SIP Eagle

612
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,079
bracelet in one of the events down in Paradise. He

613
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:34,119
won the fifty k nolanvan hold Him high Roller Turbo,

614
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,799
a PGT qualifying event. He's crushing. Poker media member Terrence

615
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:42,440
Reid is freaking crushing. He looks like he's in like

616
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,599
eleventh place, top fifteen. Jesse Lonis is in there, Jamil Wakiel,

617
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:50,759
Alexander Theologists, Martin Cabrell is still in Yes, David Coleman

618
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,480
is in there. So I mean Natasha Mercier is in there.

619
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,680
I mean, this this event is just freaking wild. So

620
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,759
still still kind of a long way to go with

621
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,039
all of this. You had Alex Foxen busting today, Joe

622
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:08,160
Katta busted today, Jean Abert Balan busted today, Chris Moneymaker

623
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,519
busted today. Nick Bartangelo also busted it today, so you know,

624
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,240
very interesting to follow along, very exciting to see it

625
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:19,319
all happen. They are streaming this on the WSP YouTube channel,

626
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,279
so you guys can check that out if you want.

627
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,279
And then I did want to get to one other

628
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:27,640
person who is still in because this is another kind

629
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,160
of point of contention around the around the industry. But

630
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:35,799
Ren Lynn. Ren Lynn showed up to play, which I

631
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:39,039
don't know if you guys remember, but he was recently

632
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:44,720
suspended indefinitely from World Series of Poker events and then

633
00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:47,640
next thing you know, he's in the Bahamas playing. So

634
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,000
of course that generated a lot of buzz, a lot

635
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:53,200
of news and for those that missed it, you know Rehn.

636
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:58,119
The story is that he basically answered a call from

637
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,000
a friend that he was that was playing in a tournament.

638
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,839
Basically the friend was like asking him questions and showing

639
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,920
him spots in a tournament but it was actually like

640
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,960
the live tournament that the guy was playing, Wren was

641
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,159
helping him, and it was ruled you know, real time assistants,

642
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:19,599
and then you know, Wren came out afterwards, he issued

643
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,960
this long apology. He tried to make people right financially,

644
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,280
sending out all this different money to the various people

645
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,880
that were possibly affected at the final table and all

646
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,400
that sort of stuff. Obviously, GG Poker and w SP

647
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:33,800
come out, you know, in the aftermath they say he's

648
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,480
suspended indefinitely. You know, then at the time the suspension,

649
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:40,159
you know, there was a lot of people that was like, listen,

650
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,760
it wasn't that bad. You know, if if what Wren

651
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,320
really did or what he said he did, you know,

652
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,559
if that's actually how it went down, then you know,

653
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,119
it's not that bad. He tried to correct it immediately,

654
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:54,079
he tried to you know, issue the apology. Obviously, he

655
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:58,199
tried to issue the financial money or you know, the

656
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,199
finances to everyone to kind of make them on the situation.

657
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,000
So maybe the penalty that of the indifferent suspension was

658
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:08,039
a little bit more hard than it should have been.

659
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,639
But now it's interesting because everyone's like, well, I thought

660
00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:14,239
you suspended this guy indefinitely and now just the next

661
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,519
series he's just back in the mix.

662
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: That's here.

663
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: You're you're a commissioner of a basically a poker league, Like,

664
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,000
how would you handle this thing?

665
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,159
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a tough one. But the big

666
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:27,719
difference between Ran and other people that are been you know,

667
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,840
suspended or banned or whatever have you know, he did

668
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,880
come out immediately, tried to make things right, So that's

669
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,679
a big difference, if we're being honest. I think a

670
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:39,599
lot of people have predicted that he would be back

671
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:45,199
at least by next World series, if not Paradise. So,

672
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,679
I mean, they banned him and then they unbanned him.

673
00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:50,559
I don't really have a problem with it, to be honest,

674
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:51,679
I don't.

675
00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: Well, I think the problem for many people is that

676
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,760
you're trying to hit this huge guarantee and you unban

677
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,000
a guy that can possibly put ten bullets in this tournament,

678
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:02,519
Like that's that's the that's the that's the dots that

679
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:03,760
people are connecting.

680
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: You know what. I never thought of it that way.

681
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,599
The kudos are the people who thought that was the

682
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:12,559
reason they I'm banning Well, I mean that's just kind

683
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:14,960
of a yeah, but like one person isn't going to

684
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,159
make it.

685
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course one person is not going to go.

686
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,360
But still, I mean, if you're if you're trying to

687
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,119
pull players from everywhere to hit a huge guarantee, I mean,

688
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:26,400
you know, like, yeah, I mean, I guess optically, I

689
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,360
think it does look a little bit bad. You know,

690
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:32,719
in indefinite suspension is there's obviously no timetable on it.

691
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,519
They can lift the suspension whenever they want. I do

692
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:40,519
think that, you know, Wren handled the situation after it

693
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:43,199
happened as best he could, you know, immediately coming out

694
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,719
saying like, yeah, I screwed up. I'm sorry, here's the

695
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,480
money back to these people. But I also think that,

696
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:52,199
you know, maybe w SP and GG should have been like, listen,

697
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,639
here's the deal. You're suspended for WSP Paradise. You can't

698
00:36:56,679 --> 00:37:01,280
do anything there, and you know, we'll revisit it next

699
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,239
year and then maybe they they allow him to play

700
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,719
WISP Europe or the Douvasip in Las Vegas, right, you know,

701
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:10,599
But I think I think lifting a suspension before you

702
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:13,199
actually had any other events is kind of a weird.

703
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:17,159
Look like, at least suspend him for like something, and

704
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:19,280
it just so happens that that's something for them would

705
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,559
have been dobsip Paradise, so you know, probably would have

706
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:25,679
just suspended him for WSP Paris has been like listen, buddy,

707
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,320
you just got to sit out, man. I'm sorry. You

708
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,199
know you're you're on a six month ban or whatever

709
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:31,559
the heck it is. You know, you did some good

710
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:33,559
things in terms of trying to right the wrongs after

711
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:35,880
the fact, but you still did wrong. So you know,

712
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,159
we got to kind of set a little bit of

713
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:39,880
an example here, and that's what we're gonna do. But

714
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:43,400
I do agree with you that, you know, it's not

715
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,400
as bad as some of the others in the past,

716
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,480
and I don't think he should be suspended for life

717
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:49,960
or anything like that, but I think he kind of

718
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,599
do have to set some sort of like you know,

719
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,119
precedence here. But anyway, Redland's backpoint and he's still on

720
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,039
with under Hunter Proyers left, so let's see how that goes.

721
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:01,880
I mentioned that this is is a PGT qualifying event.

722
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:07,000
You had Michael the Grinder, Miss Rocky and John wo Wasnock,

723
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,840
the top two finishers from this year's WSB Man event

724
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,480
in Las Vegas. They both needed to find a second

725
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:16,800
cash in order to get that third qualifying cash or sorry,

726
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,760
a third cash. They both needed to find a third cash.

727
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,519
They had two my fault in order to be eligible

728
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:25,320
for the PGT Million Dollar Championship at the end of

729
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,000
the season. They both got it in this event. I

730
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,440
don't know if miss Rocky knows. I know for sure

731
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,199
Big wah Was knows because he immediately sent a DM

732
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,920
to the poker Twitter account or the PGT account was like,

733
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,719
I got my third cash. I'll see you in January

734
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,679
in Vegas. So Was knows. He's ready to go. He's

735
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:48,159
been he's been grinding. He was at Venetian, he played

736
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,000
maybe a couple nept events. He played for sure in

737
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,239
Texas like he was, He's playing stuff like he's trying

738
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,599
to get this third cash. He finally got it in

739
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:01,599
this damn event. So congrats to you, mister Wasnack, and

740
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,559
we will see you in Las Vegas. Now, Michael m

741
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:07,039
is Rocky have no idea he knows like he could know,

742
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:08,639
he could not know. I know we talked with him

743
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:12,320
during the National Heads Up Poker Championship and he was like, yeah,

744
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,320
I'm gonna get my third but I have no idea

745
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,039
what grinder knows or doesn't know. I mean, for all

746
00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:18,840
we know, he might think the event already happened.

747
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll send someone a message to alert him. But

748
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:26,920
uh yeah, him and him and was got that third cash?

749
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,760
That good on them. The guys that also needed a

750
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,639
second I mean a second or a third cash don't

751
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:35,320
appear to be there playing.

752
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:39,079
Speaker 1: So the one that sticks out to me is Leo Margetts.

753
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:40,480
She's not there. She's at the wind.

754
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: She's at the wind.

755
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: She would he would need two cashes though.

756
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: Kenny Hallett, he's over in Prague, which does make sense.

757
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,800
Jared mc guiney he is here in Vegas too, But yeah,

758
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,760
so we'll probably see those. Fellow w SP Main Event

759
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:03,559
final table is not participate in the upcoming free role.

760
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:06,320
But I think the biggest kind of changes on the leaderboard.

761
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,159
And look, we still have several events left. There's sixteen

762
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,519
hundred points up top in the Super Main, so things

763
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:16,559
are going to keep moving. But you know the biggest

764
00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:19,000
change is Stephen Chidwick. He jumped up into the top ten.

765
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,480
We had Michael Manchek pick up some much need to

766
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,559
points when he finished runner up to Charlie hook, he's

767
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:29,159
up into the top twenty. And then you've got a

768
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:30,920
lot of people in this in this middle group. I'm

769
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,679
going to throw out some names at you right now.

770
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:37,960
Obviously you got Jesse Lonas who's seventh, but you know,

771
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:41,280
you have Victor Blum, you had Chadiveslays, you have Latara Guerrera.

772
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,800
So Gio Ittor just busted. But those guys in those

773
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,480
mid twenties with sixteen hundred points, they could take the

774
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:53,639
lead over Alex Foxon who did cash in the main event.

775
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,800
But yeah, we could see, you know, some dramatic changes

776
00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:02,800
on the whole entire lead aboard once you know, WSP

777
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,079
Paradise kind of wraps up, obviously a couple more events

778
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:08,719
left too, and then we're gonna lead obviously into our

779
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,239
PGT Last Chance. That will really kind of shape everything

780
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,599
heading into that you know, million dollar Championship.

781
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be a lot of movement,

782
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,400
as you said, coming out of this whole thing. I mean,

783
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,239
we'll have to have to watch every single day and

784
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,000
see how this thing unfolds, and then you know, we'll

785
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,880
we'll go from there. So it would be it would

786
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,920
be pretty wild to see someone, you know, kind of

787
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,480
come out of like outside the top forty and like

788
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:41,239
you know, make a huge leap, get into the top forty,

789
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,719
ultimately be able to possibly challenge for Player of the

790
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,599
Year honors. Like you know, it's just there's a lot

791
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:47,360
to be there.

792
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: One name for that is Daniel Roseai. Yeah, he obviously

793
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,039
won the fifty k high roll of the seven hundred

794
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:56,760
and fifty points. That was his second cash of the season.

795
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,920
He's still in the main event, so let's just pretend

796
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:03,159
he wins that. That's sixteen hundred. So now he's up

797
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:05,960
to twenty three hundred and he's sitting third on the Leadabard.

798
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just wild.

799
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wild. You know, there's a lot of kind of

800
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:13,800
crazy stuff like that that could happen, and yeah, we

801
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,440
we just get through broad eyes. The other thing, which

802
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,079
is tricky, which is, you know, I don't think we

803
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:21,719
really took into account when we gave WSB the Green

804
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,840
Lion was the double cashing. You know, like how does

805
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,519
that affect you know, like you know, Nacho Barbero is

806
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,280
a good one. He's cashed twice. You know, how does

807
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,320
that affect how many points does he get for that?

808
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:36,920
Because he's on he's at eight hundred and two points,

809
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,880
so he's about, you know, one hundred points out of

810
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,320
the top forty. He's cash twice. How are we gonna Uh?

811
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have to honor it. But

812
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,920
I personally, I like, I was aware of how they

813
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,400
were doing this structure at the beginning of the tournament.

814
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:58,119
I thought, I don't know why. My mind just thought, Okay,

815
00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:00,159
they're going to make the money on day three. What

816
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:02,960
I thought, like that just made sense to me. I

817
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,679
was like, why would you have people double cashing in

818
00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:07,039
this tournament? But I'm also like, okay, I get it

819
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:09,199
from their aside, because you want people double cashing because

820
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:11,519
only fire multiple boards and that helps through guarantee.

821
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:14,519
Speaker 2: For the way I'm I've kind of already approached it

822
00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:17,599
heading into this was they get the highest of the points,

823
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,119
they get both payouts in their stats, and but they

824
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:26,480
only get one cash because it's one event still, so

825
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:32,840
you know, like forward best points forward, that's the most

826
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,239
points forward, best cash forward. But we'll give them credit

827
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,039
for the for the the amount of money they won,

828
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:41,239
mainly because it's going to mess up on my data

829
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,199
if I don't do that that way. But that kind

830
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,519
of makes sense to me the most. You know, Nicha

831
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:48,239
Burbera is a good one. He could have picked up

832
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,679
ninety points, but he's only going to pick up fifty six.

833
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,599
I think that's, you know, fairly fair to me. And

834
00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:55,599
obviously there's a few more, but I have to wait

835
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:58,760
till everyone kind of busts, because you know, going through

836
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,159
WSP plus today, you're still seeing a lot of like

837
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,519
code names, you know, super Yang A twenty three, et cetera,

838
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:09,719
and trying to figure out who these guys actually are

839
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,880
and you know where if they cash twice and I

840
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,440
have to, you know, get fancy with my spreadsheet.

841
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Though, in that WSP plus app,

842
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,960
they did fix the font size that I was complaining

843
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,280
about all summer long, and the font sizes.

844
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 2: It seems to get better every day, like it seems

845
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:27,400
to be.

846
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: My only issue is I don't have to restart an

847
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,119
app more than I restart every day. I have to

848
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:35,719
restart this app. I mean, I know that they're obviously

849
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,639
doing updates every single day and it's it's constantly improving,

850
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,840
but which is a good thing. But I'm also like,

851
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,119
do I have to always restart this app?

852
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: The one thing. I just I'm assuming there's probably a solution.

853
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,800
You know, we obviously dealt a lot with the WSB

854
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,920
plus app, you know, during the summer with but the

855
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,400
feature table player, you know, name blanked out, chips removed,

856
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,400
and they have a YouTube logo. Like it needs to

857
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,320
be a better way to do this, Like, you know,

858
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,480
I just I need to see who that person is.

859
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,440
If you don't want to update the chips, that's fine,

860
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,280
but like we need especially like think about it tomorrow

861
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,679
when they play, the.

862
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: Name should be there, but like where the chips are

863
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,239
should maybe just be like a lock symbol, like the

864
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,639
chips are locked, that's right, you know, or like too

865
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,519
or maybe that maybe the chip symbol is like it

866
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:24,559
says it puts the chips there, but then it says

867
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:27,400
like next to it sixty minutes ago or something, because

868
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,840
it's it's you know, based off whatever. Like I don't

869
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,639
know something, but I do agree with you that it's

870
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:33,440
a little bit weird because you're you're trying to sweat

871
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,800
the updates and then you're like, well, who the heck

872
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,079
are these eighty nine people? Where'd they go?

873
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,039
Speaker 2: You know, tomorrow everyone will be a feature table player.

874
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:41,559
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, exactly.

875
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:44,199
Speaker 2: That's the kind of issue. And if they really look,

876
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,119
do they really care about do they really want people

877
00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:49,480
watching or they want on people on the app? You know,

878
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:50,519
I I think it's I.

879
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: Mean, I think they ultimately want both.

880
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means possible, you know, I'm

881
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:57,119
I'm a firm believer. If you want to watch the stream,

882
00:45:57,159 --> 00:45:58,800
you'll watch the stream. If you want to look at

883
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,639
the updates, you look at the updates. I think they

884
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:06,800
can both be essentially live without really jeopardizing anything. So

885
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:08,559
that's my theory on it.

886
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:12,079
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you know what, we'll obviously be keeping

887
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:14,679
tabs on this thing as it goes. That is the

888
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,920
WSP Paradise Super Main Event. Ten million dollars to first place,

889
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,639
more than seventy two million dollars in the prize pool,

890
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:24,559
and they are down to fewer than one hundred players.

891
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:28,199
Speaker 2: Gabriella Gabrielle Andrade is still in by the way, I

892
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,559
just know, oh my god, he's running on the pot.

893
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,519
I remember. I think if you guys remember, from like

894
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:36,280
what maybe two podcasts ago, I told a story about

895
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,280
how he was buried chasing the TCH Main Event sixteen

896
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,239
hundred dollars a pop brick. The entire series were putting

897
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,000
like twelve bullets, came over to the Champions, played the

898
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:50,400
final like hypertobo flight got in made a running that

899
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,800
main event. He's you know, obviously plays both games, but

900
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,039
I always thought Pilo was his like main game, cashing that,

901
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,320
you know, but like grinding the old thirty three hundred

902
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,559
of the Champions and the sixteen hundred at TCH and

903
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:07,800
then now he's just winning truck or finishing whatever is second.

904
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he finished second in the two hundred and

905
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,679
fifty k Invitational tournament and Paradise.

906
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: So raking and running the super main. Where is he

907
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,679
sitting wild? It's twenty fifth right now of niney odd

908
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,360
so you go kind of crazy.

909
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: All right, sticking with the World Series of Poker, but

910
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,039
kind of shifting gears a little bit here w SP Europe.

911
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,920
So they announced, uh, I don't know, a couple of

912
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,000
months ago, Tim and I brought it up on the podcast,

913
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,679
but they announced how two big changes to that series.

914
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,719
One is they were going to be leaving Rosmudov and

915
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,599
going to Prague. I believe it's the Hilton Prague, which is,

916
00:47:48,519 --> 00:47:52,679
if I'm correct, the same venue as ept prog I believe,

917
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,840
So they're moving to Prague, and then they're also shifting timeframe,

918
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,719
so they're not going to do the October ish window.

919
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,440
They're going to shift it to the front half of

920
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,559
the year, and they're doing it what end of March

921
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:07,880
into April, right at the end of March into April,

922
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,199
March thirty first through April twelfth, and then today or

923
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,360
yesterday they announced the schedule and this also comes with

924
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,559
some changes. Fifteen gold bracelet events, which I think is

925
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:21,880
what they normally do there, but the main event is

926
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,719
the big talking point here. So the WSP Europe Main

927
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,639
Event has always been ten thousand euro buying or ten

928
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:34,079
thousand pounds when they were doing it in London, they

929
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:38,599
dropped it to five k and they added an enormous

930
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,079
ten million euro guarantee. Now I know that's not the

931
00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:45,039
sixty seventy million that they're getting down at the WSP

932
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,599
Paradise Superman event, but ten million, and according to the

933
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:53,440
news store NWSP dot com, this figure surpasses any guarantee

934
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,480
for a poker tournament held in Europe in twenty twenty five.

935
00:48:57,039 --> 00:48:59,960
I mean, I'm not sure that because there's been a

936
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:04,679
guarantee bigger. I mean maybe that whatever that ISPT thing,

937
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,320
the International Stadium's Poker Tour thing. I don't even remember

938
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:07,960
what the hell they were.

939
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: Trying to the Trenton event there, But did they have

940
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,760
a guarantee? They may have? Who won that Andy?

941
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: Which one?

942
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 2: The one random one they did.

943
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: The Triton one?

944
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,119
Speaker 2: No, that's not that's called I don't know whatever. I'll

945
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:25,719
go digg him. I thought they anyway.

946
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:29,039
Speaker 1: But anyway, in twenty twenty five, ten million dollars for

947
00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:33,079
a five K that's two thousand entries. That's freaking Why

948
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,440
so the WSB Europe Main event, which had six hundred

949
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,559
and fifty entries, what.

950
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: The one jop? They did a one drop there?

951
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, but did they have a guarantee?

952
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: But you said biggest prize pool in Europe.

953
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: No, no, it's the biggest guarantee for a poker tournament

954
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,440
held in Europe.

955
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: We'll have to get d Maybe I misspoke.

956
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: Again, and I have no idea what I'm saying, but

957
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,280
in my mind I said guarantee, So that's what I said.

958
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:02,679
So yeah, so they had six hundred and fifty ish players.

959
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,079
I think that number has been kind of around the

960
00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:06,760
same maybe it has been declining a little bit. I

961
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,039
don't know exactly, but now they're going to go to

962
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:12,280
two thousand right now. Obviously half the buy in, but

963
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,840
if you were just to take last year's field multiply

964
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,599
it by two, that gets you up to thirteen hundred

965
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:19,639
and fifty. And this they're guaranteeing two thousand entries. I mean,

966
00:50:19,639 --> 00:50:21,320
obviously they can miss the guarantee and it can be

967
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,519
less entries, but I mean with the way that GG

968
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:27,280
Poker's going, you know now owning the wsp brand, I

969
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,000
feel like they're going to get twelve to fourteen million

970
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,239
in this price will easy and that's just out of

971
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:38,039
freaking control for a for this tournament. I mean, the

972
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:42,559
EBT progue just wrapped up like what a week or

973
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:45,440
two ago Mountain Kerkow shout out to him, long time

974
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,400
member of the industry, member of the poker community, won

975
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,119
the events. I believe that had around twelve hundred entries.

976
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:54,000
So I mean that gives you an idea of what

977
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:57,519
WSPU Europe is trying to scale to here and they

978
00:50:57,519 --> 00:51:02,480
come out with this enormous freaking guarantee which is just nuts.

979
00:51:02,599 --> 00:51:05,119
It does have three starting flights I'm assuming it's gonna

980
00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:07,880
be you know, multiple re entry, all that sort of stuff.

981
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:13,119
They also have a fifteen hundred dollars no limit hold

982
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:16,440
them European Circuit Championship that comes with a one point

983
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,800
five million dollar guarantee. So in that one, you're looking

984
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,679
at a thousand entries based on the guarantee. They got

985
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,679
you know, a bunch of different price points on here.

986
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,960
They got a one K opener, a three KPLO mixed

987
00:51:29,559 --> 00:51:33,599
h five hundred dollars five hundred euro I should say colossus.

988
00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:36,679
They got a two K twenty five hundred. They got

989
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:38,840
a ten K high roller, you know, a twenty five

990
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,079
k GG million's high roller. So you know, this is

991
00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:46,880
this is a series that you know, much different than

992
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,639
than w S would be Paradise, where you know, it

993
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:51,559
was like there was one buy in sub five k

994
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,639
for like actual bracelet event, then everything else was just astronomical.

995
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,199
I mean, this is very much geared towards like kind

996
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:03,800
of your more average tournament player, traveling player, WSP player,

997
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,559
that sort of stuff. So I feel like with this schedule,

998
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:13,079
this series is now fully back. It's going to be wild.

999
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:17,400
I think it's going to be enormous. So yeah, is it.

1000
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,079
Speaker 2: Going to be enormous? Why the reason I say that

1001
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,800
I criticized the dates they chose, Okay, because well.

1002
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,559
Speaker 1: They said, f your dates, tim ten million euros guaranteed.

1003
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:30,840
That's what they said.

1004
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 2: I got it, I got it. They want to go

1005
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,119
to war.

1006
00:52:33,199 --> 00:52:36,079
Speaker 1: Money can solve a lot of problems, including scheduling.

1007
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:40,599
Speaker 2: Look, they went to wall with WPT win Las Vegas.

1008
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:42,679
Now they're going to war with the Irish poke.

1009
00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:46,679
Speaker 3: Up in and I think they're winning the WPT versus

1010
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,599
moved it a week later and completely being offset but

1011
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:52,920
now with their main event at the front end of

1012
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,239
the series, right because.

1013
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 2: Irish poke up in the one of the yah y

1014
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:03,960
a series in the world that ends April sixth. WSP

1015
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:08,760
Europe starts March thirty first, ends April twelfth. Now, if i'm.

1016
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: And the main event dates specifically April third, April fourth,

1017
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,239
and April fifth for the starting.

1018
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 2: Place, and they overlap the Irish Poker Open main event

1019
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,039
that has a two point five million dollar guarantee, But

1020
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:24,440
why wouldn't WSP Europe just offset that by a few days.

1021
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,079
You know, we talk about you know, we talk about

1022
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,639
giving players the most opportunity to play everything. They just

1023
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,519
moved that to the second week of WSP Europe. They

1024
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:38,519
completely fade the Irish Pokeer Open main event and all

1025
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:41,440
the other events they have there. But as we know,

1026
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,880
WSP don't give a shit about anybody else, so they

1027
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,480
did this. So I am not as bullish on of

1028
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,719
being a super popular event because I think a lot

1029
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,599
of people, you know, are still going to choose the

1030
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:56,840
Irish Prokeer Open that obviously has some history. We saw

1031
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,719
a lot of I notice a lot of people on

1032
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,559
so sure not base there traveling to go play the

1033
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:06,360
Irish Prokerap And we had a couple of our players

1034
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,519
play the Irish proke Op and skip our events. And

1035
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:14,480
this is going to be another kind of forced decision

1036
00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:18,199
by the two operators. And you know, not really the

1037
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,119
Irish poke up in the every days have been out forever,

1038
00:54:20,199 --> 00:54:24,639
but really four WSP forcing players to choose between you know,

1039
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,159
the Irish Prokeer Open WSP Europe. Buyings are different, but

1040
00:54:28,519 --> 00:54:33,360
the biggest issue is that conflicting main event. And look,

1041
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,960
you're going to look at it and say, okay, I

1042
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,559
can play a five K ten mil or I can

1043
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:41,679
play an eleven hundred two and a half mil. You

1044
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,320
know there is an overlapping players there. Whether you know

1045
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,519
how many, I don't know, but still I just don't.

1046
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:51,360
I just don't like that they had the whole April's

1047
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,960
calendar open. They just could have moved it a week

1048
00:54:54,039 --> 00:54:59,679
later and completely dominated the entire playa pol. You could

1049
00:54:59,679 --> 00:55:02,000
have got all all of Europe playing just by moving

1050
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:02,679
in a week later.

1051
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: That's I mean, listen, I I don't disagree with you

1052
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,440
that I would love for everyone to play nice. You know,

1053
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,840
I don't think the WSB really has to here. Ws

1054
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,679
B is the NFL. They can do whatever the hell

1055
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,079
they want. I'm sorry, but they're the biggest brand and

1056
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:18,679
they can do whatever that. They can drop the hammer

1057
00:55:18,679 --> 00:55:19,280
if they want to.

1058
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: What they're not gonna win, then they'll think about it.

1059
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,480
Around now with Bahamas, think about how many people are trying.

1060
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: What do you mean with right now? With Bahamas? They

1061
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,239
just got seventy two plus million dollars the price, But

1062
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,920
how can you say they're not gonna win. They're gonna win.

1063
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:30,880
Maybe they're gonna win.

1064
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 2: Think of all the players that are here.

1065
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,639
Speaker 1: You know who hurts the WPT hurts. Sure, they're main

1066
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,159
event dropped more than five hundred entries this year. The

1067
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:40,159
Irish poke Gropen is likely gonna be the one that

1068
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,760
hurts here, not the ws B Europe.

1069
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1070
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I'm trying to say is that if if

1071
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,320
they did their event a different time, they would get

1072
00:55:48,639 --> 00:55:51,920
potentially ninety five percent of the play a pool instead

1073
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,679
of sixty percent.

1074
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I don't disagree with you. It would be lovely, Listen.

1075
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,000
It would have been lovely if like, for example, if

1076
00:55:59,039 --> 00:56:01,719
I was thinking about going to play these events, I

1077
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,400
could go to Europe, I could go to Ireland, I

1078
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,800
could fire that. I could hop on over to Prague.

1079
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,639
I could fire that, and then I could head home,

1080
00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:12,199
make a little swing out of the whole thing. Right now, Unfortunately,

1081
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,679
that's not how it's gonna be personally. If I was

1082
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,239
the rspoke Rope and I would move my event, okay,

1083
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,400
just like as I sent a text message and had

1084
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,920
a little conversation with a friend of the podcast, Matt Savage,

1085
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,400
I would have moved the WPT World Championship dates. I

1086
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,360
would have shifted it one day further and I would

1087
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,000
have tried to get everyone coming back from the Bahamas

1088
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,719
to fire that final flight, Like that's what I would

1089
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,119
have done, And yes, it's not ideal, and you do

1090
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,039
have to kind of, you know, back off, and you

1091
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:40,639
know in a way like you kind of have to

1092
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:42,800
be the bigger person here, Like you can't just be like,

1093
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,599
well I'm not moving because you're not moving, and then

1094
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:47,440
it's just this game of chicken and no one's gonna

1095
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,679
win there. So like, listen, the WSP's gonna do what

1096
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,320
the WSPEED does. They are the NFL of the industry,

1097
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,400
you know, whether we like it or not. They are

1098
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,719
the biggest and the best brand and that's where a

1099
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,639
lot of the value is and the biggest tournaments and

1100
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:00,679
that's what everyone knows and blah blah blah blah. That's

1101
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,719
we all have to just understand that. So you just

1102
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,119
have to kind of shift and you have to be

1103
00:57:06,159 --> 00:57:08,199
willing to shift. I mean you know that more importantly

1104
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,400
than anyone because you're constantly like, well, if this changes,

1105
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,440
I'm going to change it whatever, like we could. I'm

1106
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,960
constantly trying to tell you times to like stand your

1107
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,639
ground and you're not, and you're always moving shit around.

1108
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:19,960
So you know, like if if if you were in

1109
00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:22,079
charge of the Irish Poker Open here, you would probably

1110
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:24,320
say like, well, we got to move like we like,

1111
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,280
I'm Irish is too big for it to just get

1112
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,800
up Listen, I'm not. First of all, we can say

1113
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,679
this here on this podcast. We have no idea if

1114
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:38,480
like you know, the Irish Poker Open or any venue

1115
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,719
and operator whatever has convention space locked in, you know,

1116
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,599
events space, all that. It's It's understandably it can be

1117
00:57:44,639 --> 00:57:46,519
a logistical nightmare if you have to move stuff, and

1118
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:49,280
sometimes it's not even possible, right, you know, Like we

1119
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,639
talk at times like well why don't they do the

1120
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,079
WPT World Championship earlier or whatever, But it's like you

1121
00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:55,280
can't because there's that big Amazon conference or whatever in

1122
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,800
Las Vegas. It takes up basically the entire city. So like,

1123
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:01,000
you know, we get it. That said, I would still

1124
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:03,920
try try. I would I would exhaust all avenues to

1125
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,480
make it happen because I think at the end of

1126
00:58:06,519 --> 00:58:10,480
the day, with with what we're seeing now, and we're

1127
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,280
going to get to some of this, you know in

1128
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,159
a second. But you know, with what we're seeing now

1129
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:21,000
is GG Poker owns the Dobis Ape, the biggest Brandon

1130
00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:25,880
poker and they are just swinging left, right and center,

1131
00:58:26,039 --> 00:58:30,239
so like you know, you can it's like just you

1132
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,199
got to start bobbing and weaving like that. Everyone else

1133
00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:33,679
just has to start bobbing and weaving. That's that's just

1134
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,719
how it has to be. Okay, because these guys are

1135
00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:39,639
in town every which place in the world and they're

1136
00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:41,840
just they're dropping the hammer. So we we you know,

1137
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,559
including the PGT, we got to kind of just work

1138
00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:46,840
around it, right, especially if they're going to be continuing

1139
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,840
to throw these huge guarantees at things sixty million dollars

1140
00:58:51,079 --> 00:58:53,920
in the Bahamas, you got ten million here, like they're

1141
00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:55,280
swinging for the fences.

1142
00:58:55,559 --> 00:58:56,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1143
00:58:56,159 --> 00:58:59,119
Speaker 1: So, I mean you even see things like, you know,

1144
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,119
for one person, David Baker was like, WUROP schedule looks great. Awesome,

1145
00:59:03,199 --> 00:59:05,239
I'm a fan, Like it sounds like he's like gonna go.

1146
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,639
I didn't see David Baker saying that about the Irish

1147
00:59:07,639 --> 00:59:11,199
proke open. Yeah, so it's like it's I mean, and

1148
00:59:11,239 --> 00:59:13,159
I know that's obviously super small. Samul Sizes is one

1149
00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:14,760
person that I happened to see say something on social

1150
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,920
media like but yeah.

1151
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,119
Speaker 2: This is really up time. I just randomly searched like

1152
00:59:21,239 --> 00:59:25,920
flights to Dublin from Vegas surprisingly cheap, because I was like,

1153
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,559
that'd always be pretty cool to go to Isle.

1154
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:29,559
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to go to the Irish Proke for sure.

1155
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:32,239
Well that's not better at all.

1156
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 2: Do you think they would, uh, you know, maybe want

1157
00:59:34,519 --> 00:59:36,639
daily podcasts from the Icehbrooke group.

1158
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:40,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you should email them and they

1159
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,280
can sponsor this podcast if they pay for some of

1160
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,599
our stuff. I'm in, We're totally in. Let's go send

1161
00:59:45,639 --> 00:59:47,559
out to a bunch of two dumb Americans over there

1162
00:59:48,039 --> 00:59:53,360
and we'll make it happen. Yeah, but you're basically American now, sure, yeah,

1163
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,480
but yeah, let's say yes. I just I think that

1164
00:59:55,519 --> 00:59:57,440
you just have to again, I think you have with

1165
00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:00,480
what the ws AP is doing, you know, I think

1166
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,000
you just have to be willing to move things around,

1167
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:06,480
like you just have to be flexible and listen, it sucks.

1168
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:08,239
It sucks to move. I get it. We've had to

1169
01:00:08,239 --> 01:00:09,199
move stuff on the PGT.

1170
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 4: You know.

1171
01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:10,719
Speaker 1: You and I were just talking about with some of

1172
01:00:10,719 --> 01:00:12,719
our events the other day, like, you know, it's just

1173
01:00:12,719 --> 01:00:15,119
it's frustrating to constantly move and blah blah blah. But

1174
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:18,559
I mean, unless now, the other option is like you

1175
01:00:18,679 --> 01:00:21,320
just have to basically fight fire with fire, and like,

1176
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:24,719
I mean the best example is as WPT tried to

1177
01:00:24,719 --> 01:00:27,119
do it when they went to forty million on their guarantee.

1178
01:00:27,159 --> 01:00:29,719
They missed. Now that event doesn't have a guarantee. So

1179
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,679
it's like, if you're willing to go toe to toe

1180
01:00:32,719 --> 01:00:36,440
with the World Series of Poker right and like constantly

1181
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,880
put your neck on the line, your financial neck on

1182
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,880
the line because you know that's going to be large

1183
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,320
guarantees and whatnot, then Okay, I guess if that's what

1184
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,480
you want to do, then go right ahead. But other

1185
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:48,519
than that, you know, I think we just got to

1186
01:00:48,599 --> 01:00:50,480
kind of work around you know, I say we because

1187
01:00:50,519 --> 01:00:52,360
we obviously do the PGT stuff, so you know, we

1188
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,000
got to kind of work around what seems like a

1189
01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:58,079
new era for the WACIPI and it's here to stay.

1190
01:00:58,599 --> 01:01:02,400
So yeah, looking listen, I'm also not saying like like

1191
01:01:02,519 --> 01:01:05,079
Irish poke rope and should not like move to like October,

1192
01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:06,960
Like you know, it's just like we kind of if

1193
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,159
they can again, if they can, I know, some things

1194
01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:12,920
might be locked in and it's just impossible, but you know,

1195
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,400
shifted a day or two here.

1196
01:01:14,519 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: When did you say, the main event in Europe starts

1197
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:24,159
the third, yes, so day two of the Irish pok

1198
01:01:24,199 --> 01:01:28,719
Group and is April fourth, so you can probably you know,

1199
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,719
cash the Irish poke up and knowing Europe, I haven't

1200
01:01:31,719 --> 01:01:34,400
spent much time there, but it's probably I don't know,

1201
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,800
probably get on a flight and be in Prague in

1202
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,800
an hour, so you could essentially still play both and

1203
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,199
just play like one of the later flights for WSP

1204
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:48,800
Europe and like looking at their schedule. The only thing

1205
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,360
after that that has a big guarantee is this two

1206
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,480
hundred See this is right, apparently the Minish the Mini

1207
01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:59,760
Irish Open is a two hundred and fifty dollars million

1208
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:00,719
dollar like guarantee.

1209
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:02,199
Speaker 1: I was like, does this thing have like is this

1210
01:02:02,199 --> 01:02:04,000
thing being played online? Like what the hell is this

1211
01:02:04,039 --> 01:02:05,039
turn they have?

1212
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 2: Look, they have online satellites, you know.

1213
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:09,199
Speaker 1: Because their partnered with poker Stars for the Irish.

1214
01:02:09,719 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: You know what, these guys will be fine, they'll make

1215
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,760
they guarantee, just won't be as big as next year

1216
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,360
as as this year. Sorry, uh so they'll be fine.

1217
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,639
I will that, you know for dogs and young pops.

1218
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:26,119
I don't know what that is, but I.

1219
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,079
Speaker 1: I will also say that. You know, in this shout

1220
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:30,440
up producer Rich Ryan, he's always kind of hammering this

1221
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,119
this point home. But you know, the Irish Poker Open,

1222
01:02:33,639 --> 01:02:37,599
while it does have a bit of international fame and

1223
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:40,960
buzz to it, I mean it really is a regional

1224
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,840
slash local poker t yeah.

1225
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:43,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1226
01:02:43,239 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: And and the w SP, well WSP Europe specifically, but

1227
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,960
the w SP brand, I mean that is like pretty

1228
01:02:50,039 --> 01:02:56,559
much only an international like global brand, right, So you know,

1229
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,800
I think they kind of attract different player pools in

1230
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,360
a so you know, I think that I think that

1231
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,639
both will be okay. You know, it's not fun having

1232
01:03:05,679 --> 01:03:07,719
this dropped on you if you are the Irish Proke Rope,

1233
01:03:07,719 --> 01:03:09,719
and of course, like it's not fun, you're you're probably

1234
01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:13,599
a little bit more uneasy about having to hit your guarantee.

1235
01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:16,840
But I still think that they'll hit it. But I

1236
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,599
think the overall point, like what you're trying to make

1237
01:03:18,679 --> 01:03:21,039
is you would love people to go they run deep

1238
01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:23,159
in the Irish Proke Grope main event, maybe they cash

1239
01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:25,960
for thirty K, they hop on over, they fire five

1240
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,119
bolts in the WSP Europe. Male Like, that's just kind

1241
01:03:28,159 --> 01:03:29,760
of what we all want to see, right, and what

1242
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,119
we want to experience. So but but you know, we'll see.

1243
01:03:33,159 --> 01:03:36,679
I mean, there's a crap ton of poker. It's there's

1244
01:03:36,719 --> 01:03:39,000
poker everywhere, you know. You and I aren't going to

1245
01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:42,000
talk about EPT Prog, but that thing's been running and

1246
01:03:42,039 --> 01:03:44,800
doing some big numbers over there. So yeah, there's a

1247
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,039
lot to be had, and it's it's very interesting now

1248
01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:50,800
to see how this landscape unfolds again with it's been

1249
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,039
a little over a year now since GG Poker acquired

1250
01:03:54,039 --> 01:03:57,599
the WSP brand, and the swings that they are taking

1251
01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:03,000
are highly evident, like they are high. They're headlining moves,

1252
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:05,280
and we are all seeing in that latest one today

1253
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,559
or one of the latest ones today because we're aout

1254
01:04:07,559 --> 01:04:09,840
to talking about. The other one is that they dropped

1255
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,960
this WSP Europe schedule and it has this five five

1256
01:04:14,119 --> 01:04:18,840
k euro ten million dollar guaranteed main event, which is

1257
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,639
freaking crazy. So as far as I'm concerned, WSP Euver

1258
01:04:21,719 --> 01:04:24,320
is freaking back, okay, and I'm happy to see it

1259
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,559
because I love doubs B Europe. It was the prestigious

1260
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:32,920
brother of the WSP. All Right. The other piece of

1261
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,400
the news out of the WSP, WSP player of the year,

1262
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:40,119
everyone's been yelling, screaming, doing everything to be like, can

1263
01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:42,039
we do prizes for the WSP Player of the Year,

1264
01:04:42,039 --> 01:04:44,719
What the heck are we doing? Well, WSP today came

1265
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,239
out and said there will be a one million dollar

1266
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,639
total prize pool for the twenty twenty six WSP Player

1267
01:04:52,719 --> 01:04:57,239
of the Year race. The race does include WSP Europe,

1268
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,599
which we just talked about, It includes the flagship WSOP

1269
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,480
Summer in Las Vegas, and it also includes WSP Paradise.

1270
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:10,559
So going back to that three series approach back when

1271
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:12,920
they had Europe, the Summer in Vegas, and then they

1272
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:18,320
had b Asia Pacific RIPWSP Asia Pacific. So now they're

1273
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:23,440
doing all three of these. Per the press release, the

1274
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,559
eventual Player of the Year winner will claim and enhanced

1275
01:05:26,639 --> 01:05:30,679
one hundred KWSP Paradise package with a variety of other

1276
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,280
WSP packages and or tickets awarded to the top one

1277
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,199
hundred players on the leaderboard at the conclusion of the season.

1278
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,239
So if you head on over to WSP dot com,

1279
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,559
they have a whole landing page dedicated to well, they

1280
01:05:43,559 --> 01:05:45,800
have a whole landing page dedicated to one WSP Europ

1281
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,599
which Tim and I just talked about. They also have

1282
01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:49,400
a landing page dedicated to the new Player of the

1283
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,079
Year stuff. They have all the prizes listed on there,

1284
01:05:52,159 --> 01:05:54,880
the details, They have past POY winners listed there. They

1285
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,679
have a calculator for the new WSP Player of the

1286
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,559
Year points calculator, so they have that all there. It

1287
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:02,280
does say that first place is going to get the

1288
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,119
hundre K Paradise package plus the POI title, but then

1289
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:07,000
it also says second and third are also going to

1290
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:09,679
get a hundre K Paradise package, which is interesting. That's

1291
01:06:09,719 --> 01:06:14,280
the same. Then four through fifteenth are listed to get

1292
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,480
a thirty K Super Main Event package to WSIP Paradise.

1293
01:06:18,679 --> 01:06:22,000
Sixteenth through fiftieth are going to get a five K

1294
01:06:22,159 --> 01:06:25,400
Circuit Championship package which takes place at WISP Paradise, and

1295
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,800
then one of those players in that group will be

1296
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,920
randomly drawn to win a thirty K Super Main Event

1297
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,960
package upgrade, and then fifty first through one hundredth get

1298
01:06:36,639 --> 01:06:40,079
two and a half K Circuit Championship ticket, and then

1299
01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:43,119
randomly six players will be drawn from that group to

1300
01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:46,760
get a five K package instead. So all of the

1301
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,159
million dollars that are being given outs are awarded via

1302
01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:54,400
do WSP Paradise packages, which you know, kind of again

1303
01:06:54,519 --> 01:06:58,440
going back to my original thought exercise of like what's

1304
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,119
the goal here, what's the plan here? To me, this

1305
01:07:02,159 --> 01:07:05,800
is another piece of evidence that they could just be

1306
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:11,039
pushing everything to Dobspy Paradise. Yeah, so again, it's just

1307
01:07:11,199 --> 01:07:13,199
it's just very interesting to see how it's all going.

1308
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:13,559
Speaker 2: Now.

1309
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,039
Speaker 1: I would assume I couldn't find it in there. But

1310
01:07:18,119 --> 01:07:21,760
because the player of the erace includes WSB Paradise, all

1311
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,199
these packages should apply for twenty twenty seven, would be

1312
01:07:24,199 --> 01:07:29,880
my guess. So there's no prize money next year because

1313
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,079
how can you award a package? Good point, right, it

1314
01:07:33,159 --> 01:07:34,480
has the following year.

1315
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:35,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

1316
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how this changes things. Like let's I mean,

1317
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,320
we already talked about David Baker, like he's someone who

1318
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,159
if you guys listen to his podcast with Adam Schwartz

1319
01:07:44,199 --> 01:07:47,480
Gamble Up the Gamble Up Pod, highly encourage you guys

1320
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,480
to go check that out. But you know, he talked

1321
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,440
about how he kind of hates what they're doing with

1322
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,199
the Dovaspy Paradise stuff, right, but now he said today

1323
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,920
seeing the WSP Europe schedule that he likes that, and

1324
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,000
he seems like he's likely going to make the trips.

1325
01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:06,079
So let's say hypothetically Baker goes to Europe has a

1326
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:08,880
great run. Does his normal thing in the summer has

1327
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,119
a good run? Is he now going to chase Player

1328
01:08:11,159 --> 01:08:13,559
of the Year and go to Paradise which he originally

1329
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:14,360
didn't really want to do?

1330
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 2: Like?

1331
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: So does that switch that whole pathway up and kind

1332
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,960
of drive more people down to Paradise? Who knows? I mean,

1333
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:24,760
I guess we'll see how it all unfolds, but it

1334
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,520
could be interesting to see how that goes. What do

1335
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,199
you got thoughts here on Player of the Year.

1336
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: I should ask producer Rich to dig up some old

1337
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,359
audio files. But I'm said something very similar to this,

1338
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,119
you know, for Player of the Year, where they could

1339
01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:43,279
I didn't say a million dollars, I said something a

1340
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:46,880
lot smaller. Bet you could basically change the Vegas Player

1341
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,359
of the Year that maybe it's a half a million

1342
01:08:48,399 --> 01:08:53,359
dollar prize bowl that awards seats or tickets or packages

1343
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:55,880
into Paradise if Paradise is still going to be a thing.

1344
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,479
So obviously they listen to me made a little better. No,

1345
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,800
But I do like it because you know, like we've

1346
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,359
kind of touched on. All their eggs are in the

1347
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,600
paradise basket right now. I think we can both assume

1348
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,680
that they're going to try and go bigger and better

1349
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,880
every year down there. So for twenty twenty seven, maybe

1350
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,159
we do see you know, seventy five eighty million guaranteed

1351
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,279
and getting as many people down there in some capacity

1352
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,680
is definitely a plus four, you know, ensuring they can

1353
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:32,000
hit that big guarantee. So you know, people are going

1354
01:09:32,079 --> 01:09:34,000
to say, we saw a tweet I think from Eric

1355
01:09:34,079 --> 01:09:37,560
Baldwin saying, you know this, this is not very interesting.

1356
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,800
We saw something from Michael Munchek, who's a big, you know,

1357
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,920
Player of the Year chaser, that you know, this is tough.

1358
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:48,079
This makes it a lot tougher when you add Europe.

1359
01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:52,479
You know, this really does only suit five, six, seven,

1360
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,640
eight players now.

1361
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:58,279
Speaker 1: Five I think it suits one. His name is Sean Deep.

1362
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 2: No overt SHONDI Gran.

1363
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:04,039
Speaker 1: I think the thing is the thing is with Daniel.

1364
01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:07,800
The thing is with Daniel is that it's it's just

1365
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,399
dependent on if he goes to Europe. I mean, I

1366
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:11,680
don't I don't know if he's gonna go.

1367
01:10:12,399 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 2: Look the way he's been unattending our events. I think

1368
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,079
he's going to be basically only.

1369
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: Okay, but if you go back to the the another

1370
01:10:22,239 --> 01:10:24,560
another r I P here, but the the w SP

1371
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,600
docu series but r I P. But you know, he

1372
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:33,800
talked in that about trying to have a kid and

1373
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,640
start a family and do all that sort of stuff.

1374
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,359
So like you know, when you're when you're moving to

1375
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,039
that stage of your life. I mean you and I

1376
01:10:40,119 --> 01:10:42,800
know you can't just go gallivanting around Europe for a

1377
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,520
fucking week and a half, Like it's just hard. So

1378
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,800
you know, I think that you know where Sean Deep.

1379
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,479
You know, Shan Deep already has his kids like that,

1380
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,680
you know they're old, not not like super old, but

1381
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,960
you know they're older, and and the DOUBSIP is his thing,

1382
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,159
and he doesn't travel to other stuff or really play

1383
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:02,239
other stuff outside of DOUBISP events. You know, he's always

1384
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:04,920
gone to Europe. So now, you know, I think that

1385
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,439
this really just does benefit Sean Deep. And these tournaments

1386
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,399
for WSP Europe that we talked about. You know, maybe

1387
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,960
the stuff in the Bahamas is a little bit pricey

1388
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,199
for Sean Deep just because you know, not that he

1389
01:11:16,279 --> 01:11:18,479
can't compete in those fields. I certainly think he can.

1390
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,279
I've just kind of wondered why he hasn't played all

1391
01:11:20,279 --> 01:11:22,880
the super big buy and stuff, you know, but he's

1392
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,199
going to kind of value hunt, I guess. And you

1393
01:11:25,239 --> 01:11:27,159
know he skipped some of the bigger stuff in the

1394
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:31,159
in the ws AP uh you know, areas you know

1395
01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:34,800
in recent years, but the WAP Europe stuff, I mean,

1396
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,760
this is shandeb b all over it, right, So I

1397
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,159
think it certainly favors him.

1398
01:11:40,199 --> 01:11:43,319
Speaker 2: He's obviously the the the number one favorite. You know,

1399
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,000
you do have to still throw in, you still have

1400
01:11:46,039 --> 01:11:48,920
to mention the grand You have to mention Benny Glaza.

1401
01:11:49,399 --> 01:11:52,680
You know, you could mention Phil Sternheimer. You could throw

1402
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:59,399
in you know, Steven Shouldwick possibly you know Seth Davies,

1403
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,159
those kind of names. So yeah, it does shrink the list,

1404
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:08,359
you know, quite significantly when it comes to Player of

1405
01:12:08,359 --> 01:12:10,880
the Year. And look, maybe they should have just kept

1406
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,439
it serious specific or add a few more. Remember that year,

1407
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,079
that one of the last years at the Rio where

1408
01:12:16,079 --> 01:12:19,399
they did like the Velo no limit hold the Player

1409
01:12:19,399 --> 01:12:21,520
of the Year, they did like the Midsteaks. You can

1410
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,239
still do a lot of that stuff, I think, adding

1411
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,960
you know, we see it on the PGT People love leaderboards,

1412
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:31,199
people love chasing trophies that aren't directly tied to winning

1413
01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:33,560
a tournament. So you could add a bunch of this

1414
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,119
and really gamify, you know, everything with the World Series.

1415
01:12:37,119 --> 01:12:40,600
You could have the leader boards at different different buying levels,

1416
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,239
different games, different stops. You could do a lot of

1417
01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:45,880
different things to really you know, and still spend the

1418
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,720
same amount of money, just you know, split the prizes up.

1419
01:12:50,039 --> 01:12:52,600
You know, maybe you're reserving those two extra big one

1420
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,439
hundred k ones for and you split them up and

1421
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,239
do them for the no limit leader boards and the

1422
01:12:57,239 --> 01:13:01,000
midstakes and stuff. But either way that they've given out

1423
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,840
a million dollars to play, as you kind of really

1424
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,640
complain about free money.

1425
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: And then also in the news release, we did see

1426
01:13:09,359 --> 01:13:11,079
it was down towards the bottom, but it's in there.

1427
01:13:11,359 --> 01:13:14,359
The fifty seventh annual WSOP, so that's next year's WSOP.

1428
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,760
The dates were announced May twenty sixth through July fifteenth,

1429
01:13:18,079 --> 01:13:20,760
and then WSP Paradise dates for twenty twenty six were

1430
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:26,199
also announced December first through eighteen. So for anyone out

1431
01:13:26,199 --> 01:13:30,039
there listening who likes to plan well in advance, obviously

1432
01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:33,239
you two, mister PGT Commissioner, those dates are out.

1433
01:13:33,359 --> 01:13:35,520
Speaker 2: So if I have been funny that everyone was like

1434
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:39,479
so ecstatic about WSP Vegas dates. They're the same every year, yeah,

1435
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:43,399
but everyone you know how people they just.

1436
01:13:43,399 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 1: Want to see it in paper. They want to see

1437
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,000
it announced, like you know, like that's just it's the

1438
01:13:48,039 --> 01:13:51,640
same with the schedule. Like the schedule is if you're

1439
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,199
coming out to Vegas, if you're like a professional player,

1440
01:13:55,239 --> 01:13:57,119
somebody's going to put in a high volume. I mean,

1441
01:13:57,159 --> 01:14:00,319
the schedule is going to be largely the same. Maybe

1442
01:14:00,399 --> 01:14:03,800
there's like maybe the Monster Stack is like shifted a

1443
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,760
week or two like here or there. But if again,

1444
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,800
if you're somebody who's coming out for the full six

1445
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,159
to seven weeks, what do you care what the actual

1446
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:12,479
schedule is. But like people just want to see it

1447
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,079
in print, Like just save up your three hundred k

1448
01:14:15,239 --> 01:14:17,920
or whatever the hell you need in buy ins, book

1449
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,680
your airbnb, and then let's go. Cause it's like the

1450
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,640
schedule is going to be there, you know, like that

1451
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,880
that's just how it is. You know, early July is

1452
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,920
gonna be theasp ma an event, Like you know that

1453
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,720
that's just how it is. So again, you might get

1454
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,479
some shifts here there and some stuff. You know, sometimes

1455
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,359
they might shift like one of those events that happened

1456
01:14:35,359 --> 01:14:36,960
at the beginning of the series last year, they kind

1457
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,439
of put it towards the end, and then they put

1458
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,000
some at the end towards the beginning. Like maybe they

1459
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,720
do a little bit of that, but for the for

1460
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,800
the most part, the schedule is largely the same every

1461
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,359
single year. So so yeah, I just always think it's funny,

1462
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,439
like you as people kind of like, oh my gosh,

1463
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,800
it's out, it's out. It's out. Yeah, well it's out.

1464
01:14:53,159 --> 01:14:55,159
And then I did just want to touch on uh

1465
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,319
cause again it's been a little bit over a year

1466
01:14:58,359 --> 01:15:01,640
now since GG poker acquired the WSP and just some

1467
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,760
of the highlights that we've seen under GG Poker's ownership.

1468
01:15:07,279 --> 01:15:10,359
You know, right now we've got the WSP plus app

1469
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,520
is in Las Vegas. It was used here last year.

1470
01:15:15,319 --> 01:15:17,399
I personally thought that it was awesome other than the

1471
01:15:17,399 --> 01:15:20,520
fact that the font size was astronomical, but other than that,

1472
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:25,279
it was good. And I think that's a decent win

1473
01:15:25,399 --> 01:15:27,640
because you know, we know how hard it is to

1474
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,760
get anything kind of approved in a gaming space here

1475
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,359
in Nevada and here in the US it tends to

1476
01:15:33,359 --> 01:15:36,079
be a nightmare, but gg poker in the WSP, we're

1477
01:15:36,119 --> 01:15:38,039
able to get that done. So that's a big win.

1478
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,920
The WASP plus app. Now another thing you know that

1479
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,680
we didn't talk about, but it did come out. The

1480
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,279
twenty twenty six WSP circuit schedule is out. It's available

1481
01:15:47,319 --> 01:15:50,720
on WASP dot com. But included in that news is

1482
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,760
that the WSP plus app is going to be fully

1483
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,760
utilized at WSP circuit stops in twenty twenty six. So

1484
01:15:58,119 --> 01:16:02,399
that's pretty cool and another big step in the right direction.

1485
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,520
There you've got the super main event is, as I said,

1486
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,159
that thing is now a behemoth. It is a real force.

1487
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,439
It looks like it is here to stay. And if

1488
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,039
they keep putting resources behind it like they seem like

1489
01:16:14,119 --> 01:16:16,800
they are, I mean, this thing could just continue to

1490
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:21,399
go up, up and up. So they got that also

1491
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,720
a change, and you know a lot of people were complaining.

1492
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,880
You know a lot of the more international players, traveling

1493
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:27,720
players are like, I don't want to go to Rosbodov

1494
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,520
for WSP Europe. I don't like it there, all that

1495
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,680
sort of stuff. Well, WSB is moving WSP Europe out

1496
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,680
of Rosbudov, they put it in Prague, and they moved

1497
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,600
it to a different part of the year, and the

1498
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:44,600
schedule as of today looks pretty freaking awesome. And then

1499
01:16:45,319 --> 01:16:48,239
also today announced they got a million dollars in prizes

1500
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,960
for the WSP Player of the ear Race. So you know,

1501
01:16:52,039 --> 01:16:55,279
all those things have happened in about a year's time,

1502
01:16:55,399 --> 01:16:58,439
just over a year's time now, you know, with Gigi's

1503
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,239
ownership of the w SP. So it's a brand that

1504
01:17:02,319 --> 01:17:06,039
I think many would would agree was pretty stale and

1505
01:17:06,079 --> 01:17:10,560
stagnant for quite some time. But it definitely looks like

1506
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:14,840
GG Poker is putting its fingerprints all over this thing

1507
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:19,359
and trying to improve it as much as possible and

1508
01:17:20,399 --> 01:17:23,600
really just set it apart from everything else, as if

1509
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,760
it wasn't already set apart from everything else. I mean,

1510
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,119
I've always believed that, I've always said the WSB is

1511
01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:33,000
the NFL of poker, and now with w or sorry,

1512
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,760
with GG Poker excuse me, you know, owning it and

1513
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,640
doing what they want to do with it, it just

1514
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,000
seems like there is no end in sight. So all

1515
01:17:41,039 --> 01:17:43,640
that stuff has happened in a year, and who the

1516
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,159
heck knows where it's going to go from here, you

1517
01:17:45,159 --> 01:17:47,760
know who else. Who knows what else they have, you know,

1518
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,680
coming down the pipeline. I would imagine many things. One

1519
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,199
of the things that I'm selfishly most interested in is

1520
01:17:53,239 --> 01:17:55,640
like what they can do with the ws AP dot

1521
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,279
com online platform here in the stage, which I don't

1522
01:17:58,319 --> 01:17:59,960
think that they've really touched it all.

1523
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 2: I can yeah, right, yeah, we.

1524
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,279
Speaker 1: Don't know, like what's the contract with you know, I

1525
01:18:05,279 --> 01:18:07,640
think it's eight eight poker that's currently operating at eating

1526
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,359
It's like, what's the deal there? But you know, eventually

1527
01:18:10,399 --> 01:18:13,319
like that would be great to see. So we'll see

1528
01:18:13,359 --> 01:18:17,520
if if stuff happens there. But that's obviously you know, TBD.

1529
01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:20,359
But overall, I would say that I would have to

1530
01:18:20,359 --> 01:18:23,479
give them an a on the on the first year

1531
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,199
under ownership. I don't see how you can.

1532
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:27,199
Speaker 2: Agreed.

1533
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: Agreed, Wow, I get an agreed from Tim. There you go, man,

1534
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:36,840
in many words over there, all right, WPT World Championship

1535
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:41,560
that is happening right now here in Las Vegas. I

1536
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,199
guess a couple quick highlights you had. Eric Baldwin opened

1537
01:18:44,199 --> 01:18:46,920
the series with a win in the eight hundred dollars

1538
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:52,479
buying million dollars guaranteed opening event or early event, or

1539
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,479
whatever the heck you want to call it. Baldwin taking

1540
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,479
home almost two one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for

1541
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,039
the win. There almost three thousand entries in that thing

1542
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,880
you had the WPT Prime Championship. It increased its field

1543
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,319
size by more than two hundred players. This tournament, to

1544
01:19:10,399 --> 01:19:12,239
me and Tim and I are going to talk about

1545
01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:14,000
it a little bit more in a second, but this

1546
01:19:14,079 --> 01:19:19,760
tournament to me is for me personally, is the second

1547
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:24,239
best tournament in the world. That's what I'm gonna say.

1548
01:19:24,279 --> 01:19:28,279
That's my tim. It had eight hundred and seventy six entries.

1549
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,159
Last year had nine, six hundred and seventy. There are

1550
01:19:31,199 --> 01:19:33,479
six players remaining for the final table. They got to

1551
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,680
the final six. They're going to delay them for a

1552
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,560
little bit. They will play that final table on December twentieth.

1553
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,039
That will be live streamed, I believe, so you guys

1554
01:19:42,039 --> 01:19:45,439
can watch it when that happens. Steven Song, who won

1555
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:49,199
this event once before, he finished eighteenth. Jeremy Becker, friend

1556
01:19:49,239 --> 01:19:53,000
of the pod, shout out Jeremy, he got nineteenth. Both

1557
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,800
of them took fifty three thousand dollars. I didn't see

1558
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,000
how song busted, but I sure as hell saw how

1559
01:19:58,079 --> 01:20:01,920
Jeremy busted. And it was not fun. Guy jammed the button,

1560
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,960
I believe. With Queen eight, Jeremy called big blind with

1561
01:20:06,039 --> 01:20:08,319
Ace King and the guy flo up in eight and

1562
01:20:08,359 --> 01:20:13,000
that was that. The WPT World Championship ten K main event.

1563
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,119
The numbers are in in terms of the field size.

1564
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,199
You had what was it, eighteen hundred and sixty five

1565
01:20:20,399 --> 01:20:23,119
entries in this one, three starting flights in this tournament

1566
01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:25,000
freeze out per flight, so you can be in for

1567
01:20:25,079 --> 01:20:28,600
a max of three bullets. It's ten thousand, four hundred

1568
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,319
dollars on the buy in, something that I absolutely freaking

1569
01:20:31,399 --> 01:20:33,840
hate with with WPT and wind do can you just

1570
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,840
make it ten k? Like can we just do that?

1571
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,239
Like what are we doing? Or it should be ten

1572
01:20:38,279 --> 01:20:42,319
thousand plus six hundred, not this six, not this ninety

1573
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,039
or ten thy four hundred, and then only like ninety

1574
01:20:45,079 --> 01:20:46,880
six or ninety one hundred goes into the prize bowl.

1575
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,319
It's just making it difficult for us. But that field

1576
01:20:51,359 --> 01:20:54,399
size eighteen hundred and sixty five entries is down from

1577
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:58,000
last year five hundred and twenty six, which is a

1578
01:20:58,199 --> 01:21:01,560
pretty big draw. I mean, obviously it dropped last year

1579
01:21:02,079 --> 01:21:06,000
because they didn't have the guarantee, right, I mean this

1580
01:21:06,079 --> 01:21:11,199
year it definitely seems like I mean, if I'm gonna say,

1581
01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:15,800
there's the two biggest factors, one no guarantee and two

1582
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,640
ws be paradise, those have to be the two biggest factors.

1583
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,880
Like if you're like there's probably other factors, yes, but

1584
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,239
in terms of like a pie chart, I mean, what

1585
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:23,960
do you think.

1586
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could also throw in the the seats they

1587
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,000
were giving out last yea in the club WBT free roll.

1588
01:21:31,159 --> 01:21:34,239
Speaker 1: Oh true, true. I mean the lot of satellites were awesome,

1589
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,359
Like they gave out a ton of those, but but

1590
01:21:36,399 --> 01:21:37,520
they had what one hundred or.

1591
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 2: Well there's one hundred. Yeah, there's a hundred seats given

1592
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,159
out in the in the frei roll.

1593
01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 1: Knowing that, weren't they doing some stuff with the Mystery

1594
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,479
quest for the second chance.

1595
01:21:47,319 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 2: Drawing not to the same level. So if you're playing that,

1596
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,680
or you're on the fringe of playing the main event,

1597
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,800
hearing there's one hundred fish maybeing one of them winning

1598
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,439
a seat to get in, it does kind of swing,

1599
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,880
you know, swing you to potentially jumping in. So obviously

1600
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,840
you remove the hundred seats, maybe you remove another fifty

1601
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,680
players that were on the fence because of that. You know,

1602
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,680
it's it's a factor. It's a small one, but it's

1603
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:12,319
still a factor.

1604
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah about that mystery question. You know, I tried to

1605
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:16,840
fire a couple of flights.

1606
01:22:17,159 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did.

1607
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'm just too much of an old

1608
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,479
man now who doesn't know what he's doing. But I

1609
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,840
got on to Club to PT Gold, I couldn't figure

1610
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,439
it out within five seconds and I gave up. So

1611
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:27,079
I was all for it.

1612
01:22:27,159 --> 01:22:30,600
Speaker 2: I was just I fired to the first two flights,

1613
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,439
and then I realized that not only did I have

1614
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,560
to survive the first the five percent of that flight,

1615
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,039
I then had to make the five percent of the

1616
01:22:38,079 --> 01:22:41,439
next flight. When every field combines. It seemed very tough,

1617
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:47,159
so I gave up. I saw people in for eighteen bullets.

1618
01:22:47,399 --> 01:22:52,399
It was like wt's version of the Superman I guess people.

1619
01:22:52,159 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: In the bargain basement version of the Superman events.

1620
01:22:55,079 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: So I could have easily gone down that road, and

1621
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,880
I pulled out very early. I didn't want to have

1622
01:23:00,079 --> 01:23:00,760
anything to do with that.

1623
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm also kind of curious about what's gonna happen

1624
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,239
for like that piece of the WPT World Championship. You know,

1625
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,960
last year it was the big free role. This year

1626
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,880
it was Mystery Quest. So is it gonna be a

1627
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,000
third thing next year? Are they going to run back

1628
01:23:19,039 --> 01:23:19,680
Mystery Quest?

1629
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 2: Like?

1630
01:23:20,039 --> 01:23:22,119
Speaker 1: How does that all factor out? You know something I'm

1631
01:23:22,119 --> 01:23:24,039
also just kind of interested in. But anyway, back to

1632
01:23:24,079 --> 01:23:27,439
the WPT World Championship, that ten k main event field

1633
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,359
that did dip by five hundred and twenty six players,

1634
01:23:29,359 --> 01:23:32,880
but still more than two point five million dollars up

1635
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,680
top for the winner. The top two hundred and thirty

1636
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,520
three places are going to make the money. There were

1637
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,399
seven hundred and thirty three players returning for today's Day two.

1638
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:52,279
Sam Laskuitz PGT regular bag the chip lead. No idea

1639
01:23:52,319 --> 01:23:55,560
how he's doing right now, but the best vanilla poker

1640
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,439
tournament player in the world, I'm sure he's doing simply incredible.

1641
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,920
Hopefully he's not out there starting he fights with anyone,

1642
01:24:01,399 --> 01:24:03,800
of course, you know, you never know, you never know

1643
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,279
who's going to start just throwing down more than eighteen

1644
01:24:06,319 --> 01:24:09,840
point two million dollars in the prize pool for this one.

1645
01:24:11,079 --> 01:24:13,279
I guess I'm just gonna ask you the question sir,

1646
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:19,359
are you starting to worry about this event declining? Yeah,

1647
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,560
I mean this is a big drop. This wasn't like

1648
01:24:22,399 --> 01:24:23,479
fifty players.

1649
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know we keep hopping on WSB Paradise

1650
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,880
going bigger and better. Here it feels like WPT is

1651
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:35,000
going in a way the other way obviously when not falling.

1652
01:24:35,399 --> 01:24:37,119
Speaker 1: Let me just jump in and say that the other

1653
01:24:37,159 --> 01:24:40,359
way for this ten came in because everything else is great,

1654
01:24:42,039 --> 01:24:43,239
highlighted by the prime.

1655
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 2: They removed the guarantee, so that's one thing. But then

1656
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,039
the Club wt stuff's also gone down. You know, we

1657
01:24:51,079 --> 01:24:53,880
have the ten million dollar free row obviously, so a

1658
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,000
lot of money given out this year with Club WBT,

1659
01:24:56,119 --> 01:24:59,239
but just much five Yeah, just much harder to get.

1660
01:25:00,399 --> 01:25:02,279
I think that has the factor that they're going down.

1661
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:07,159
So you know, it's an interesting time. Do they want

1662
01:25:07,159 --> 01:25:09,159
to make any changes to this main event? I think

1663
01:25:09,239 --> 01:25:11,439
a lot of people on Socialism saying no, it's great.

1664
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,720
You know, the one entry per flive is perfect, don't

1665
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,079
change it. Like you touched on a little earlier, maybe

1666
01:25:18,119 --> 01:25:22,000
be the bigger man or the bigger tour. And you know,

1667
01:25:22,119 --> 01:25:25,439
i'veset your dates just slightly just so you can capitalize

1668
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:28,159
on people traveling back, We've seen a lot of big

1669
01:25:28,279 --> 01:25:31,920
names already on their way back. You know. We saw

1670
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,199
josh Ario tweet out something that he was landing in

1671
01:25:35,279 --> 01:25:37,680
time for Day one Sea and his wife was going

1672
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,439
to basically hadn't seen him in two weeks, but was

1673
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,000
going to pick him up, drive him straight over to

1674
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:43,600
the wind so he could jump in on one Sea.

1675
01:25:44,119 --> 01:25:45,640
He probably got to have a lot of other players

1676
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:49,720
like that coming back today, even after cashing. So if

1677
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,600
you had run the event over, say this upcoming weekend.

1678
01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:55,600
You know, it's the very end of the series, I

1679
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,199
get it, but you do have that chance to capitalize

1680
01:25:58,199 --> 01:26:02,159
on people coming from Bahamas. And look, Bahama's dates are

1681
01:26:02,159 --> 01:26:05,319
out now you touch on December first, eighteenth. You know,

1682
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:10,720
that seems where they could potentially start planning around the

1683
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,439
main event. They're not going to know the main event

1684
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,319
days Paradise for a while, but they can kind of

1685
01:26:14,319 --> 01:26:18,520
probably predict it and say, hey, look, you know, we're

1686
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,760
gonna assume it's going to be here, so let's push

1687
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,760
outs a little later so we can try and get

1688
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,239
more people and actually bring this back up you know,

1689
01:26:27,319 --> 01:26:30,399
onto the you know, back to where it kind of

1690
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:31,399
was a couple of years ago.

1691
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's been a lot of talk about the

1692
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:39,920
value of this WPT World Championship event. I've talked with

1693
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:45,319
a lot of people about it. I'm starting to agree

1694
01:26:45,359 --> 01:26:49,520
a bit more that this is right up there with

1695
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,399
the WSP main events. I did have a couple of

1696
01:26:53,399 --> 01:26:55,520
people tell me that this was even better than the

1697
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,560
Spain event in terms of value, and if they could

1698
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,239
play one ten K in the world for the rest

1699
01:27:00,239 --> 01:27:02,199
of their lives, they would play this one versus the

1700
01:27:02,279 --> 01:27:04,520
w SPE main event. I don't think they're idiots. I

1701
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,960
don't think I can get there just yet, but I

1702
01:27:07,039 --> 01:27:12,439
understand their point and some of their points are And

1703
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,720
this is again shout out producer rich Ryan. I know

1704
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,680
he's been on this take forever, but the w SPE

1705
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:22,880
main event structure in Las Vegas is almost too good

1706
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,520
in the sense that it's too hard for like a

1707
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,960
more recreational player to thrive. Not that you're not going

1708
01:27:30,039 --> 01:27:32,359
to get the breakouts here and there, but on the whole,

1709
01:27:33,079 --> 01:27:36,399
you know, once you're playing two hour levels for ten

1710
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,560
days straight, I mean, it's the like the cream is

1711
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,560
going to rise. That's just how it is. And the

1712
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,680
WPT World Championship structor is still a very very good structure.

1713
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,399
It's sixty minutes on day one, it goes to ninety

1714
01:27:47,399 --> 01:27:49,840
minutes on day two, so that's still a very slow structure.

1715
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:51,720
But you know, you start a little bit shallower with

1716
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,520
two hundred big blinds. It's a little bit faster to

1717
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,840
start all that sort of stuff. So when a structure

1718
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,600
is a little bit faster and there's more variance involved,

1719
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,000
it's just going to allow lesser players to be able

1720
01:28:04,039 --> 01:28:05,720
to kind of get lucky and win more, you know,

1721
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,880
so you have that aspect of things. Somebody else made

1722
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,239
the point to me that, you know, the WSP main

1723
01:28:11,279 --> 01:28:14,760
event in Las Vegas is that one tournament where strictly

1724
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,520
cash game professionals will go out of their way to

1725
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,359
play where they won't play other ten ks. They won't

1726
01:28:21,359 --> 01:28:23,199
They just don't bother with them. They they'd rather, you know,

1727
01:28:23,239 --> 01:28:26,359
spend their week playing a cash game because you know,

1728
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,000
in order to like, you might play three four days

1729
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,439
in a tournament and like double your buying, So it's

1730
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:33,159
just not worth it to them. But the WSPE a

1731
01:28:33,239 --> 01:28:36,439
event with the structure that's so good, it's much more

1732
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,920
like a cash game in terms of a format because

1733
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,479
it's just so long and extended, and the fact that

1734
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,319
you know you can win ten million dollars up top,

1735
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,439
you know you're going to get a lot of really

1736
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,199
good players that come out. Where I break from it

1737
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:50,640
is like again going back to what we talked about,

1738
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,720
like way back at the beginning of the pod, and

1739
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,000
I know we're running super long with this, but whatever.

1740
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:58,439
At least I didn't promise that it was going to

1741
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:03,600
be a short one. But uh, like, if somebody's going

1742
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:05,600
to play a ten k, if you're gonna save up

1743
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,199
and play a ten k, you're saving up to play

1744
01:29:07,199 --> 01:29:10,600
the WSP main event and trying to like trying to

1745
01:29:11,159 --> 01:29:14,760
get past that is very hard. So you're gonna have

1746
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,760
I don't know, two three thousand like dreamers and shot

1747
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,600
takers whatever the number is in that event, and I

1748
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,319
feel like that makes up for the fact that the

1749
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:27,159
WPT World Championship is a bit smaller. So so yeah,

1750
01:29:27,199 --> 01:29:29,760
I mean it's it's I still think the WPT World Championship,

1751
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:33,560
this edition of it is elite. It's awesome. I would

1752
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,319
love for them to find some sort of way to

1753
01:29:35,359 --> 01:29:39,800
bring back a guarantee, you know. I think that's I

1754
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:43,720
think that's the natural next step for this event, you know,

1755
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,520
because I just I don't know, I just fear that

1756
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,479
it's gonna kind of keep going the other way if

1757
01:29:49,319 --> 01:29:52,960
what WSP is doing down in the Bahamas can continues

1758
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,399
to go their way, because it there are no signs

1759
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,880
that they're slowing down none whatsoever. So you know, you

1760
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,960
got to kind of fight with that if you're the WPT.

1761
01:30:01,159 --> 01:30:02,920
So you know, part of it is what you said,

1762
01:30:03,039 --> 01:30:06,039
adjusting the schedule so it works better in that sense,

1763
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,920
bringing back the guarantee, and I mean Tim and I

1764
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,960
thought it was crazy to begin with when they went

1765
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,840
to forty million, Like that was nuts, Like they didn't

1766
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,880
need to do that. You know, maybe just have twenty

1767
01:30:16,359 --> 01:30:18,359
you know, maybe push to twenty five whatever, and that's

1768
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:19,560
kind of the guarantee, and that's it.

1769
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1770
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,600
Speaker 1: I also think that, you know, part of it is

1771
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,119
maybe they just really start to lean more into this Prime.

1772
01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:30,039
I mean, this Prime is like the greatest fucking tournament.

1773
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:35,760
I mean it's so good and like it's now had

1774
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,920
a couple of years where it's run eleven hundred dollars

1775
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,720
buying five million dollars guarantee. I mean I would I

1776
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,840
would honestly, try and push that thing to ten million. Like,

1777
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,880
I think that's like if if WSP Paradise is going

1778
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,600
to go one way with these insane high rollers and

1779
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,479
endless bullets and all this sort of stuff, like, then

1780
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:57,159
go the other way, focus on prime and just try

1781
01:30:57,159 --> 01:31:01,239
and attack like you know, the mid major types of play.

1782
01:31:01,399 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 2: Why not? Okay, going on that point, why don't we

1783
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:11,239
change the main event to a five K ten mil?

1784
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:14,239
We think the five k is a good price point here.

1785
01:31:14,279 --> 01:31:15,600
We've talked about this a lot.

1786
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:20,560
Speaker 1: My problem is, yeah, but like my problem with that,

1787
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,880
and I don't even know if it's my problem, but

1788
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,399
I would say that the problem that the WPT might

1789
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:30,119
have is that the WPT World Championship like that event.

1790
01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:32,239
First of all, the fact that they're even at ten k,

1791
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,800
when that event used to came out yeah and made

1792
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:40,800
its name as a twenty five k, like, so yeah,

1793
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:44,279
I I just don't know if you diminish the WPD

1794
01:31:44,399 --> 01:31:48,199
World Championship event brand by going to a five.

1795
01:31:48,039 --> 01:31:52,199
Speaker 2: K something, you could argue that it's already been, that's

1796
01:31:52,239 --> 01:31:54,079
already happened when they jumped it to ten and when they.

1797
01:31:54,079 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 1: Remained Listen, I think, honestly it's pretty perfect the way

1798
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,680
it is right now. I app love it. You know,

1799
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:06,000
there's two things I don't like about it, Okay, three things.

1800
01:32:06,199 --> 01:32:09,439
One the fact that it's ten point four. The two

1801
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:11,279
things that I'm about to say are kind of jokes.

1802
01:32:11,319 --> 01:32:13,439
The fact that it's ten point four I think is ridiculous,

1803
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,960
but that's kind of a joking. Take two, I think

1804
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:20,039
the chips are outrageously bad. Okay, other than that the

1805
01:32:20,119 --> 01:32:22,520
event is late. Now. The one thing that I actually

1806
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,039
think like really hurts them and that I don't like

1807
01:32:25,079 --> 01:32:27,920
about it, it just doesn't have a guarantee, Like I

1808
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,279
think it has to have a guarantee, but I think

1809
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:34,000
the three starting flights freeze out per flight. The structure

1810
01:32:34,039 --> 01:32:37,000
of it, you know, start I could honestly even argue

1811
01:32:37,039 --> 01:32:40,279
maybe you go like forty sixty ninety with the structure,

1812
01:32:40,359 --> 01:32:43,399
like you know, or like forty sixty seventy five like nineties,

1813
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:47,159
like I mean that's a lot, but anyway, or like

1814
01:32:47,199 --> 01:32:50,520
sixty seventy five ninety something like that. But I think

1815
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:53,399
it's really really an elite event. It's also at an

1816
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,399
amazing venue right in my backyard, so I'm going to

1817
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:57,840
be partial to that. But the win is also an

1818
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,439
incredible venue they have in the ballroom space. It's just

1819
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:02,479
freaking amazing. The only problem with having in the ballin

1820
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,560
space is these people that want to order drinks. It's

1821
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,560
seventeen dollars for a glass of Chardenay. I heard that

1822
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,119
the other day when this lady ordered at my table,

1823
01:33:09,159 --> 01:33:11,600
I was like, what in the world is going on?

1824
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,199
But anyway, I mean, the only thing that I think

1825
01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:18,399
they need to do is like try and just find

1826
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:22,119
more satellite winners, So whether that's leveraging WPT Global Club,

1827
01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:26,399
WPT Gold or the live ones that run in Las

1828
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:30,560
Vegas at the wind but then also bring in a guarantee,

1829
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,960
like reintroduce the guarantee and listen, honestly, maybe you just

1830
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,199
come in with fifteen million to start. Maybe you just

1831
01:33:36,279 --> 01:33:39,079
kind of try and reset the whole damn thing. Fifteen

1832
01:33:39,119 --> 01:33:42,760
million next year, you know, fifteen million plus we're guaranteeing

1833
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:47,119
five hundred satellite winners something like that, right, which I

1834
01:33:47,119 --> 01:33:48,680
think you can get to. I mean, they probably have

1835
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:53,600
two hundred satellite winners just from the live satellites themselves,

1836
01:33:54,039 --> 01:33:56,079
So going to five hundred when you have the two

1837
01:33:56,119 --> 01:34:00,680
big online platforms, I don't think is too crazy, you know,

1838
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,439
And then and then maybe the next year, if it

1839
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,560
goes well, you bump that guarantee to twenty million, you know,

1840
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:07,720
and then you maybe maybe you go up to twenty five,

1841
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:09,720
et cetera, and you kind of grow it that way.

1842
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,079
But you know, other than that, I mean, I think

1843
01:34:12,119 --> 01:34:15,680
that event is great. I just fear my fear because

1844
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:16,960
I love that event so much.

1845
01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 2: Is that.

1846
01:34:20,399 --> 01:34:23,520
Speaker 1: Without the guarantee and again, with the direction that WSP

1847
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,319
Paradise is going, maybe we just start to see this

1848
01:34:26,359 --> 01:34:27,920
trend that we don't want to see in this event

1849
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,920
just continues to lose one, two, three, four, five hundred

1850
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:34,439
players every single year. And that's just a bummer, right

1851
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,439
prime Is that that tournament is freaking awesome?

1852
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

1853
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:42,359
Speaker 1: And I guess you and I can talk about that

1854
01:34:42,399 --> 01:34:44,560
now we both cashed in it. Shout out to us.

1855
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:50,000
I absolutely positively f and blew it at the end.

1856
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:54,079
I just I just I tried to be a hero

1857
01:34:54,319 --> 01:34:56,399
and I didn't need to be and I butchered it.

1858
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:01,359
And yeah, I screwed up big time. I would say

1859
01:35:01,359 --> 01:35:05,159
that I was I played a plus in every single

1860
01:35:05,159 --> 01:35:08,159
hand I played until my bust out hand and then

1861
01:35:08,199 --> 01:35:11,319
my bust out hand was a fucking f minus. Okay,

1862
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,920
that like, it was just it was just stupid. And

1863
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,319
there's the biggest moment and I blew it and I'm

1864
01:35:16,319 --> 01:35:18,680
mad at myself for it. But it is what it is.

1865
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,399
That's just I need to I don't know, I need

1866
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:22,600
to learn to get past it and I need to

1867
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,159
be able to fix my mistakes in the moment. But

1868
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:25,479
you know, that's that.

1869
01:35:28,039 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, I didn't blow anything. I was short, so

1870
01:35:30,079 --> 01:35:31,600
my decision were pretty easy.

1871
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,119
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you you listen, you send me some

1872
01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:35,239
hand histories, you blow it.

1873
01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 2: A lot, okay, like wait, which event was that? Anything?

1874
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:38,560
Speaker 4: No?

1875
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 2: That was the six hundred.

1876
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,159
Speaker 1: But you send me but you like, can you just

1877
01:35:43,239 --> 01:35:46,239
play to win? For the love of God? Like, holy hell?

1878
01:35:49,239 --> 01:35:51,880
Do you ever bluff? Like I mean, I say, I

1879
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:57,760
say that Buffand which bluff suited?

1880
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:04,319
Speaker 2: Oh, I've never done anything. So four of the five suited.

1881
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:05,079
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1882
01:36:05,079 --> 01:36:07,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't it like button versus big blind like this

1883
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:08,800
a small blind whatever?

1884
01:36:09,399 --> 01:36:13,079
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I mean we were both in for two bullets.

1885
01:36:13,319 --> 01:36:15,399
I made one page jump, he made several.

1886
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1887
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,720
Speaker 1: I cast two hundred and fourteenth place out of nine thousand,

1888
01:36:20,319 --> 01:36:21,800
eight hundred and seventy six.

1889
01:36:22,359 --> 01:36:24,199
Speaker 2: Eight, twenty seventh or something.

1890
01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 1: I think I hadn't. I had a really really good

1891
01:36:27,079 --> 01:36:30,560
day one I fired two bullets. As you said, I

1892
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,199
also like the setup with this. It's a it's an

1893
01:36:32,199 --> 01:36:35,520
eleven hundred dollars buying But again I also hate the

1894
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:37,359
fact that it's like nine to sixty goes on the price.

1895
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,399
What are we doing here? But anyway, it's eleven hundred

1896
01:36:41,399 --> 01:36:44,399
dollars buy in, it's four starting flights, and it's maximum

1897
01:36:44,399 --> 01:36:47,960
two entries per flight, which I think is incredible. Like, yeah,

1898
01:36:48,399 --> 01:36:50,920
I mean, eighty eight hundred dollars all in, if you

1899
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,680
fire all bullets is still you know, a good chunk

1900
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,840
of money. But that's not like unattainable, Like that's like,

1901
01:36:57,119 --> 01:36:59,079
you know, if you're if you're if you're a if

1902
01:36:59,119 --> 01:37:01,359
you're kind of you know and around between five hundred

1903
01:37:01,359 --> 01:37:03,600
and one case, and that's kind of your your average

1904
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,079
buy in like to be able to to sell a

1905
01:37:06,119 --> 01:37:08,119
little bit of action or whatever and get in, get

1906
01:37:08,119 --> 01:37:09,840
in there if you have to fire max. Just because

1907
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,079
this tournament is so good, I think it's just so

1908
01:37:12,239 --> 01:37:15,079
worth it. I love the structure of the thing. I

1909
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,680
think it's great. I really do so you know.

1910
01:37:19,279 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 2: My my only gripe I think is you know a

1911
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:27,239
lot of these win events, this this series starting at

1912
01:37:27,279 --> 01:37:31,279
eleven am. These are going very late one thirty am.

1913
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:32,800
Obviously the restart on date.

1914
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:34,399
Speaker 1: You know, if you beat mine didn't go late.

1915
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 2: He was, yeah, he was.

1916
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:37,239
Speaker 1: I was the earliest one.

1917
01:37:37,359 --> 01:37:40,039
Speaker 2: Was the early one. Everyone else was late. I played.

1918
01:37:40,039 --> 01:37:41,399
Speaker 1: We didn't even have to play hand for hand. They

1919
01:37:41,399 --> 01:37:43,560
started announcing it and then everyone's you guys.

1920
01:37:44,359 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 2: I was one day we finished at say one thirty

1921
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:49,760
I think in the morning, and then we had to

1922
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,720
be back by you know, eleven, I think there's you know,

1923
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,479
we're playing down at twelve and a half percent. I'm wondering,

1924
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,560
you know, if they that's a long day. I wonder

1925
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,760
if we can feel like we can shrink. Obviously there's

1926
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:02,359
a dinner break.

1927
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 1: Okay, First of all, the same week dinner breaks start

1928
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,279
the fucking hashtag print the T shirts. I don't feel like,

1929
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,960
can we stop with this nonsense with the goddamn dinner breaks.

1930
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 2: It's outrageous.

1931
01:38:12,399 --> 01:38:15,159
Speaker 1: It's outrageous. The second thing that I would probably entertain

1932
01:38:15,239 --> 01:38:21,479
doing with this event, I might pay fifteen percent, yeah,

1933
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,119
and just figure it out, because.

1934
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:27,199
Speaker 2: Nine they're not going to get that big number, even

1935
01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:29,000
that two and a half percent, you boss, you know

1936
01:38:29,039 --> 01:38:31,720
they're going to jump in say you might not get nine,

1937
01:38:32,239 --> 01:38:34,479
you might only get nine thousand instead of ninety eight hundred.

1938
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,560
Speaker 1: Well, could you could you steal the piece of the

1939
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:40,239
WSP playbook and cash fifteen twelve and a half percent

1940
01:38:40,279 --> 01:38:44,439
make the next day so you can multi Yeah? Just

1941
01:38:46,119 --> 01:38:48,159
I mean, I'm just throwing ideas out there, you know, like.

1942
01:38:48,119 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 2: I would even know if anything I would prefer.

1943
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,359
Speaker 1: A part of the part of the day went. Part

1944
01:38:53,399 --> 01:38:57,520
of the issue that leads to longer day ones is

1945
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:03,279
that when an event like WPT Prime has success and

1946
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:06,960
becomes such an important, prominent tournament for people, they want

1947
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,279
to cash it, they want to do well in it,

1948
01:39:09,359 --> 01:39:12,239
which then slows things down as you get to the bubble,

1949
01:39:12,399 --> 01:39:15,039
right like like it's kind of this weird thing where

1950
01:39:15,039 --> 01:39:17,880
like the event is doing so well that it becomes

1951
01:39:18,039 --> 01:39:20,399
so important for people to want to get into the

1952
01:39:20,399 --> 01:39:22,600
money to be like, yeah, I cashed Prime. I cashed Prime.

1953
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:23,199
Speaker 2: I like that.

1954
01:39:23,239 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 1: A lot of the conversation, a lot of the conversation

1955
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:27,840
at the tables is like, oh, how'd you do in Prime?

1956
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,600
How'd you do in Prime, like it's the WPT ten

1957
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:33,000
K World Championship main event, and then it's Prime like

1958
01:39:33,159 --> 01:39:34,359
and it's like, how do you do prime? How do

1959
01:39:34,399 --> 01:39:36,359
you do Prime? Like that's what the conversation is. Like

1960
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:39,680
the event has gotten so good in terms of like

1961
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:43,439
brand power that people want to cash this thing, which

1962
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:45,159
then you get to the bubble and it's like everyone's

1963
01:39:45,199 --> 01:39:47,600
just locking down because they want to cash this one

1964
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:49,239
K where it's like, you know, at the end of

1965
01:39:49,279 --> 01:39:51,800
the day, it's like it is just a one K,

1966
01:39:52,119 --> 01:39:54,000
you know, but it's it's gotten to be this this

1967
01:39:54,119 --> 01:39:58,239
insanely big, prestigious one K that everyone wants to do

1968
01:39:58,279 --> 01:40:01,119
well in it. So like, yeah, it slows things down.

1969
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,920
And also the fact that I think that like I

1970
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,239
mean it is eight bullets, yes, but it's still limited,

1971
01:40:07,319 --> 01:40:09,880
like it's cap it's not just unlimited, so like people

1972
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:13,000
know like okay, like maybe I only brought four bullets,

1973
01:40:13,039 --> 01:40:14,560
like I'm on my third, like I want to make

1974
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,039
it happen, So they just they just kind of tend

1975
01:40:17,079 --> 01:40:20,319
to slow things down. Yeah, but you know, overall, I

1976
01:40:20,319 --> 01:40:23,760
think again, I think this event is just absolutely great.

1977
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:28,159
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, definitely an event like it's

1978
01:40:28,159 --> 01:40:29,520
an event you have to put on your schedule that

1979
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:32,399
you can't miss, you know, whether it's your you're doing

1980
01:40:32,399 --> 01:40:37,239
one bullet, you know. I went in planning just to

1981
01:40:37,239 --> 01:40:39,800
play one bullet. You were like, no, you have to

1982
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,760
play two. So I put in a second.

1983
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 1: You have to play fucking eight. Okay, Like the event

1984
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:46,840
is too goes dude, how many times? How many tournaments

1985
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,640
in the world can you put in one K and

1986
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,720
win more than a million dollars? Yes, but I, I mean, honestly,

1987
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:52,600
do not have.

1988
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,239
Speaker 2: Eight bullets to my name when it comes to pocast.

1989
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:59,399
Speaker 1: Sell some action, but yeah, it's as bad as you

1990
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:03,159
play still, buy ten whatever, and you will text me

1991
01:41:03,199 --> 01:41:04,600
all the hands and I will tell you you're a

1992
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,239
fucking idiot, and he's unbelievable.

1993
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you kind of missed this event at all.

1994
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:14,279
And then we both cashed the six hundred.

1995
01:41:14,079 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: And then we both cast the six hundred as well.

1996
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:18,840
You said the bar I decided to blow you out

1997
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:19,680
of the water once again.

1998
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.

1999
01:41:21,359 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 1: And then I tried to win the tournament early on

2000
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:25,479
day two, and I did not win the tournament early

2001
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:26,159
on day two.

2002
01:41:26,399 --> 01:41:28,039
Speaker 2: I think we probably I didn't know how much you

2003
01:41:28,079 --> 01:41:30,399
cashed for we might have cashed for the same amount though, even.

2004
01:41:30,199 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 1: Though thirteen seventeen.

2005
01:41:32,119 --> 01:41:34,359
Speaker 2: Oh I no, I made the next jump thirteen.

2006
01:41:34,239 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 1: Welly, lucky you, lucky you for.

2007
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 2: Thirty five dollars. I feel rich.

2008
01:41:39,319 --> 01:41:42,359
Speaker 1: I mean I I I played a huge I tried.

2009
01:41:42,399 --> 01:41:44,079
I played at one point one million ship pot. I

2010
01:41:44,079 --> 01:41:45,880
mean it's like, you know, I might have been up

2011
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:47,640
there with the chip leaders. I for sure would have

2012
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:48,760
been up there with the chip I don't know if

2013
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:50,079
I would have been the chip leader if I won

2014
01:41:50,119 --> 01:41:51,800
the hand, but yeah, it was that was a sick

2015
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,000
one to lose. And even though the guy called in

2016
01:41:54,079 --> 01:41:57,760
the turn called my jam, I mean I had seventeen out,

2017
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:02,319
so it was like whatever. But yeah, you know, one

2018
01:42:02,399 --> 01:42:04,800
day i' hit a seventeen outer and then actually like

2019
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:06,000
run deep in a tournament.

2020
01:42:06,079 --> 01:42:09,600
Speaker 2: But that that was also in a pretty incredible event too.

2021
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: Size Yeah what you you played Day one A. It

2022
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:13,920
had two starting flights, So this was a six hundred

2023
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:16,600
dollars buy in two hundred and fifty K guarantee with

2024
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:20,760
two starting flights. Yeah, Tim's flight had five hundred and

2025
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:22,800
like fifty or five hundred and sixty entries. Mine had

2026
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:26,600
like eight seventy. Yeah, I mean they blew this two

2027
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:28,760
hundred fifty dollars guarantee out of the water and fifty

2028
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:30,000
K guarantee out of the water.

2029
01:42:31,039 --> 01:42:33,279
Speaker 2: One hundred and fifteen k for first. The guy that

2030
01:42:33,359 --> 01:42:37,159
won was the guy that knocked me out, and we

2031
01:42:37,239 --> 01:42:41,239
both commented on the level of playing this six hundred

2032
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:44,479
was I'm interesting watching.

2033
01:42:45,159 --> 01:42:47,720
Speaker 1: It's interesting watching. I mean I told you how I

2034
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:48,439
got all my chips.

2035
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,239
Speaker 2: I mean it was I know, it was just it

2036
01:42:50,279 --> 01:42:51,800
was wild and wild.

2037
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,279
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't like, I didn't have to do

2038
01:42:54,359 --> 01:42:58,640
too much, but it was. It was definitely it was

2039
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,199
a lot of crazy. I mean there's a lot of

2040
01:43:00,199 --> 01:43:02,800
craziness happening in this entire series, even the prime. The

2041
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,439
prime is just like, I don't even know what people

2042
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:10,159
are doing. But yeah, anyway, good stuff. There's still a

2043
01:43:10,199 --> 01:43:12,279
lot more poker to go. There's you know, there's an

2044
01:43:12,319 --> 01:43:16,239
eleven dollars two million dollar guarantee that started today at

2045
01:43:16,279 --> 01:43:20,439
the win. You know, they got a three I think

2046
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,640
it's a three K three million dollar guarantee. I mean

2047
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:25,880
it's just like it's just NonStop. Venetian's got a whole

2048
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:29,479
ton of stuff going on. So yeah, It's just the

2049
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:33,000
whole thing is just uh wild. It really is just

2050
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,600
just a wild. Do you want to do card rankings

2051
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:36,800
or you want to do community cards?

2052
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,119
Speaker 2: Do community cause? Is that ties in with what we

2053
01:43:39,279 --> 01:43:39,800
just discussed?

2054
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:42,199
Speaker 1: I think, all right, cool, so let's do community cards.

2055
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:45,000
You got a jingle, right, yeah, holiday season, we got

2056
01:43:45,079 --> 01:43:47,199
to play the jingle, So let's go play the jingle.

2057
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:47,520
Speaker 2: And let's go.

2058
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 4: Attention, attention, good morning, good afternoon, and good evenings of

2059
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:55,239
the Poker radio audience near and far. It is now

2060
01:43:55,319 --> 01:43:57,960
time for a brand spanking, spiffy and new shout out

2061
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,880
to some of our most loyal listeners. Likely got a

2062
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,720
bit too lucky on the way to the spotlight. You're

2063
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,239
listening to the number one poker show in the land,

2064
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:09,319
and it's time for a new edition of the Poker

2065
01:44:09,399 --> 01:44:12,079
Gold podcast Community Cards.

2066
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 1: All right, what do you got for me? Don't even

2067
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:15,279
know what this is?

2068
01:44:16,359 --> 01:44:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do. Day one day at Prime, I'm sitting

2069
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,399
over in the corner the ballroom. I see for Go podcasts.

2070
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:24,159
I'm like, oh, look, poker Focus. His table breaks, My

2071
01:44:24,279 --> 01:44:28,279
table breaks. I end up drawing his table, you know,

2072
01:44:28,359 --> 01:44:31,600
over in the other side of the ballroom, and you know,

2073
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,279
normally I have a mustache and I have long hair.

2074
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:36,479
You know, I don't have the mustache right now, so

2075
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,000
I look a little differently, and I had glasses on

2076
01:44:39,079 --> 01:44:41,399
when I was playing. I sat next to him. He

2077
01:44:41,399 --> 01:44:43,000
looked at me. I said, nice heart, and he says,

2078
01:44:43,039 --> 01:44:45,920
thank you. I don't think you realized who I was.

2079
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:47,359
And then a little bit later he says, you know,

2080
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:49,600
kind of strikes up a conversation with me. So we're chatting.

2081
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:53,880
He's wearing the podcast hat. He's got like six big

2082
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:56,880
but he's grinding six big blinds. We're like sixty from

2083
01:44:56,920 --> 01:45:00,600
the money in the prime. On day one day, he

2084
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:02,800
ends up. You know, we talked about the hat. He's

2085
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,760
you know, he had all the hats. You know, I'm saying, yeah,

2086
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:08,319
we've got some new stuff hopefully coming out next year,

2087
01:45:08,319 --> 01:45:12,039
blah blah, Like I said, six big bines. He takes

2088
01:45:12,079 --> 01:45:14,439
the hat off. I noticed this, I'm saying. He takes

2089
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:16,720
the hat off, puts in his bag, He gets a

2090
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,119
shove through, gets another shove through, gets a double up.

2091
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:24,439
He ends up bagging more than me. And you know

2092
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:25,960
I was telling you how I was playing with him.

2093
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:29,000
I saw him the next day and when we were

2094
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:32,039
both kind of waiting for day two. He wasn't wearing

2095
01:45:32,079 --> 01:45:33,560
the hat and we walked past, and I'm kind to

2096
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:35,359
make a comment, Hey, you know this is the pucket.

2097
01:45:35,399 --> 01:45:36,880
He goes, yeah, he took off his hat and he

2098
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:39,159
started winning every hand and he goes, oh, I was

2099
01:45:39,159 --> 01:45:40,640
hoping he didn't notice that, and he goes, oh, I

2100
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:45,880
noticed that. But yeah, shout out spin. I think it's

2101
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,319
Spen Peterson. He ended up finishing four hundredth in prime

2102
01:45:49,399 --> 01:45:53,600
for like three and a half k outlasted last you.

2103
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 1: That's all that matters. I'll yeah, yeah, he'll last me.

2104
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:59,800
But good on spin, How last did you? Because he

2105
01:46:00,199 --> 01:46:01,520
actually played hands.

2106
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:04,399
Speaker 2: And then I saw him in the six hundred on

2107
01:46:04,399 --> 01:46:08,920
one A. He did not bag chips that day, but yeah,

2108
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,880
shout out to him for wearing the podcast. How saying hi?

2109
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:17,640
I had another person sayalo as well, Yeah, keep wearing

2110
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,479
the keep repping the puck podcast has not anything for me,

2111
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,399
but it seems to do some stuff for other people

2112
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:23,880
out there.

2113
01:46:24,319 --> 01:46:29,079
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, shout out Spen. All right, next up, let's

2114
01:46:29,119 --> 01:46:34,520
do let's do card rankings. Okay, so the reason why

2115
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:36,439
I wanted to do this one. You love your fucking

2116
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:41,800
rankings things. Two. I've been having a lot of conversations

2117
01:46:42,319 --> 01:46:45,920
about these cards that the win uses during the WBT

2118
01:46:46,039 --> 01:46:52,520
World Championship Series. They are the Faded Spade f SX cards.

2119
01:46:53,319 --> 01:46:57,840
I believe it is what they are, and I personally

2120
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,199
think they are the best playing cards in poker.

2121
01:47:01,239 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 2: Great.

2122
01:47:02,279 --> 01:47:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's really close. I love them. I

2123
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:08,199
feel like I've had at least a dozen dealers comment

2124
01:47:08,199 --> 01:47:11,880
about how they hate the cards. I don't really know

2125
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:15,000
what other players are saying, but I think they are

2126
01:47:16,039 --> 01:47:21,039
so good, so so good. What do you think? Sorry,

2127
01:47:21,119 --> 01:47:22,560
I had to get over. I had to reach over

2128
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,159
because I actually had to grab a pack.

2129
01:47:25,039 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 2: How do you have a pack?

2130
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 1: Unbelievable because I'm pretty sure. I went to the website

2131
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,399
fucking Fadedspade dot com, which everyone can do that too,

2132
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:33,600
you know, no free ads, but free ad shout out

2133
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,640
Tom Wheaton, and I bought them. Look Queen four, just

2134
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:38,199
like Phil Helmy Queen four.

2135
01:47:39,119 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 2: The reason I like these cards They feel really nice

2136
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,960
on the hands, that's great, but I like the way

2137
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,920
the crispness of the letters and the numbers when you

2138
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:50,039
when you squeeze them.

2139
01:47:50,079 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 1: So the index on the cards look, I got a

2140
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:55,039
couple of kings right here. The index on the card

2141
01:47:55,159 --> 01:47:59,439
is is it's slightly larger then than you normally see

2142
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,960
with like the copags or the bicycles or whatever that

2143
01:48:03,039 --> 01:48:05,960
like are commonly played with, but it's also not so

2144
01:48:06,159 --> 01:48:09,000
large that it's jumbo index if I have to look

2145
01:48:09,239 --> 01:48:12,520
at another damn jumbo index card. When I sat down

2146
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:15,039
at the napt Las Vegas in my first tournament and

2147
01:48:15,079 --> 01:48:17,319
I fucking looked at my first hand and I was

2148
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:20,439
did not remember that they use jumbo cards at resorts,

2149
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:22,119
I wanted to flip the table over.

2150
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:23,159
Speaker 4: It is.

2151
01:48:23,239 --> 01:48:27,079
Speaker 1: It is outrageous to use jumbo cards in a poker

2152
01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:30,399
tournament that is not a three hundred dollars buying seven

2153
01:48:30,399 --> 01:48:33,000
cards stud event. I'm sorry, like that that's just how

2154
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:33,560
it has to be.

2155
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 4: So.

2156
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:37,560
Speaker 1: But these are slightly larger, which I think that they're great.

2157
01:48:38,039 --> 01:48:40,000
They're actually kind of like I don't know if like

2158
01:48:40,079 --> 01:48:41,880
I don't know if this will come through on the video,

2159
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:45,560
but like they're kind of like they're narrow, so they

2160
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:50,039
squeeze nicely. The card itself is nice and freaking firm,

2161
01:48:50,199 --> 01:48:52,800
like they don't really bend at all. Like I just

2162
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,039
love them Now, I will say that I'm not a dealer.

2163
01:48:55,079 --> 01:48:56,920
I'm not in the box pitching these all day and

2164
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:59,199
having to shuffle them and whatever. They are pretty slippery,

2165
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,840
which is probably some of the issues that the dealers

2166
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:04,039
have with them. But I think these cards are the

2167
01:49:04,079 --> 01:49:09,199
freaking best. So these are my number one. But I

2168
01:49:09,239 --> 01:49:11,399
also don't think. I don't think Win uses these all year.

2169
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:13,880
I think they only use them for the WPT World Championship.

2170
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,399
I think as a partnership with Fated Space.

2171
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't play enough at the wind too.

2172
01:49:21,359 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that they don't. They don't because yeah,

2173
01:49:24,399 --> 01:49:25,640
so what's is this your number one?

2174
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 3: Two?

2175
01:49:27,039 --> 01:49:27,159
Speaker 4: Uh?

2176
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:30,039
Speaker 2: Hands down? Uh? It's I mean we need.

2177
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:33,359
Speaker 1: I'm fucking texting Tom Wheaton after this, the owner and

2178
01:49:33,399 --> 01:49:35,199
founder of Face. But I'm like you, we need a

2179
01:49:35,199 --> 01:49:38,800
promo code because we are talking the world out of

2180
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:39,640
your freaking cards.

2181
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:42,640
Speaker 2: Man. You know you talk about the nap T cards

2182
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:44,600
with the bigger faces. They don't bother me as much

2183
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:47,560
for two reasons. One I used as you play like

2184
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:51,319
an old man. No, I understand them, like I used

2185
01:49:51,319 --> 01:49:52,960
to play a lot of makes, so I've seen the

2186
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:55,640
bigger cause they have above me. But back home in Australia.

2187
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,840
That's why we use at Crown. So I grew up

2188
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:00,720
with you know, if you get your probably remember from

2189
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:02,560
when you were there. I grew up with those bigger cads,

2190
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,239
so I liked them when I came to When I

2191
01:50:05,279 --> 01:50:07,880
came to America in two thousand and seven and played

2192
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:10,880
you know, at Harris but the Mirage, and I saw

2193
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:14,600
these little CODs, I thought I was gonna blind. So

2194
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:16,239
I don't. They don't bother me as much as they

2195
01:50:16,279 --> 01:50:20,279
bother you shout out second on the rankings, I feel

2196
01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:25,079
either the CODs of the Venetian, I'm not sure what

2197
01:50:25,119 --> 01:50:27,319
they are exactly, but I'm a.

2198
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:29,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what those cards are. I should actually

2199
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:33,960
ask Tommy l Rosa. I have them as my number three.

2200
01:50:34,359 --> 01:50:36,479
Speaker 2: Oh god, what could be number two?

2201
01:50:37,399 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: Number two?

2202
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:38,319
Speaker 2: Is gonna say?

2203
01:50:38,359 --> 01:50:42,640
Speaker 1: Number number one is obvious. Number two to me is obvious.

2204
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the number two?

2205
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:48,319
Speaker 1: Then the w SP copad cards, yeah, okay, those are elite.

2206
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:49,760
They are elite.

2207
01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 2: I just don't use them that much.

2208
01:50:52,039 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 1: So I mean they're like they're also like they're perfect sizing.

2209
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,399
They're not too small, they're certainly not too big, like

2210
01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,920
I like the way that the indexes look like.

2211
01:51:00,119 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 2: You know. Look, the only downside with those is sometimes

2212
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:05,920
you find you know, this year we were playing with

2213
01:51:06,119 --> 01:51:07,960
WSB twenty twenty four decks.

2214
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:09,039
Speaker 1: Who cares.

2215
01:51:10,359 --> 01:51:12,119
Speaker 2: I'm just we're gonna have a con. That's the con.

2216
01:51:14,119 --> 01:51:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I love the WSB Cope cards, so

2217
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,239
those are my my number two. And then the Venetian cards,

2218
01:51:20,279 --> 01:51:22,680
which I don't I thought it was faded Spade, but

2219
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:24,880
I don't know if it's faded spade, like they might

2220
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,079
use faded spade, they might use faded spade ones in

2221
01:51:27,119 --> 01:51:29,760
the streaming room. And when I've done commentary, I've noticed

2222
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:33,079
that the faded spade. But yeah, I gotta figure out

2223
01:51:33,119 --> 01:51:35,640
what cards Venetian uses. We should we should?

2224
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm trying to look if I have a picture

2225
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:42,359
of the cards. I do, but yeah, it doesn't really

2226
01:51:42,399 --> 01:51:47,560
say anything on it. But yeah, those cards in uster.

2227
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,239
Speaker 1: And then I'm not sure there is another like everything

2228
01:51:51,359 --> 01:51:55,159
then it's everything else is like what I have, like

2229
01:51:55,239 --> 01:51:56,239
literally everything else.

2230
01:51:56,399 --> 01:51:58,680
Speaker 2: You know, you know what's on the A very low card.

2231
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:00,600
I have to put it very low on the list,

2232
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,239
the south Point card. I haven't played there in a

2233
01:52:03,239 --> 01:52:03,920
long time.

2234
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:06,399
Speaker 1: Haven't played there in a while either, so I don't

2235
01:52:06,399 --> 01:52:06,640
even know.

2236
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 2: It's much hot a to squeeze. So they lose, they

2237
01:52:10,039 --> 01:52:11,800
lose a few points for their thickness.

2238
01:52:12,039 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 1: I mean, anything that uses jumbo is just immediately like

2239
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:16,800
you're at the bottom of the list. Does I've never

2240
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:18,920
played like cash at Resorts World? Do they use those

2241
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:22,720
cards like all the time? They're just the worst?

2242
01:52:23,039 --> 01:52:26,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think they do. Maybe

2243
01:52:26,199 --> 01:52:28,119
it's just the pokusars event.

2244
01:52:30,239 --> 01:52:32,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but those you just can't can't

2245
01:52:32,399 --> 01:52:37,920
use those cards. So yeah, those are our card rankings.

2246
01:52:38,039 --> 01:52:40,560
I love the Faded Spade f SX cards. I love

2247
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:42,199
the Kopak wsp cards.

2248
01:52:43,359 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 2: You know what the next rankings we have to do?

2249
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 1: You're I was gonna say, I was going to say

2250
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:50,159
the same sort of thing. So I'm wondering if you're

2251
01:52:50,159 --> 01:52:51,439
going to say the same thing that I am.

2252
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:54,279
Speaker 2: Should be Vegas chipset.

2253
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:56,239
Speaker 1: Ranked boom, so exactly what I was going to say.

2254
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:59,399
Speaker 2: Because you know, ve Nation has multiple chip stacks, Wind

2255
01:52:59,399 --> 01:53:00,720
has multiple ship sets yea.

2256
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 1: And the World Championship at the bottom. That's I think

2257
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:05,399
the bottom of it.

2258
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:06,239
Speaker 2: I don't think they can't.

2259
01:53:06,359 --> 01:53:09,399
Speaker 1: I think you have to use, like, no, those chips

2260
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,000
are just they're so there's there's.

2261
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:13,399
Speaker 2: Well, then we have to include all the w s

2262
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:18,840
Pation standard chip sets because the set were used in

2263
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:22,880
the six hundred for WS for the the Win. I

2264
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:25,479
don't like those because the the five hundreds of thousands

2265
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,000
or whatever it is of the same color.

2266
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:31,399
Speaker 1: I used to set in the eleven hundred dollars Mega satellite,

2267
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:33,479
Milestone satellite, whatever the hell it is at the wind

2268
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,000
the other day that I've never used before ever, I've

2269
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,600
never even seen. And those are pretty good. They are

2270
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:41,920
worlds better than whatever they use in the Prime and

2271
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:45,960
the WPT World Championship. My biggest issue with the ones

2272
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,920
that are used in the Prime and the WT World

2273
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:51,640
Championship is like the brand person, the marketing person in

2274
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:56,600
me is the printing on them. It's blurry yea like?

2275
01:53:56,960 --> 01:54:00,399
How like if I were to have purchased them and

2276
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:03,159
got those, I would have immediately sent them back and

2277
01:54:03,199 --> 01:54:06,600
been like, no, redo these chips, What the hell is this?

2278
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:11,239
I want crisp lettering, Like, come on them.

2279
01:54:11,279 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 2: They don't have to pay for the full thing, so

2280
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:13,319
that does help.

2281
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 1: Well, I don't care. Come on, what is the win

2282
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:16,560
is elite.

2283
01:54:17,039 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the wind normal set is elate.

2284
01:54:20,159 --> 01:54:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the wind normal set is elite.

2285
01:54:22,399 --> 01:54:25,359
Speaker 2: The Venetian colors the Venetian the colors of the chips

2286
01:54:26,079 --> 01:54:26,520
very good.

2287
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 1: Well, the colors of the Venetian cash game chips.

2288
01:54:29,199 --> 01:54:30,159
Speaker 2: Are no, we're not.

2289
01:54:32,279 --> 01:54:34,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so well we should give some thoughts to that

2290
01:54:34,319 --> 01:54:37,279
and then we'll talk about that ranking on the We.

2291
01:54:37,239 --> 01:54:42,479
Speaker 2: Need accompanying pitches though, figure that out. Yeah, I mean

2292
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:44,800
we probably have enough pitches on our phone. Yeah, we

2293
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:47,680
can find it on social He's got a lot of

2294
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,960
good chip sets too. Well, that should be a separate

2295
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:57,119
it's separate ranking that should be ranked. We took photos

2296
01:54:57,119 --> 01:54:59,199
of all of them this year and there was like

2297
01:54:59,319 --> 01:55:01,760
thirty eight differ and chips, so like that's its arm rank.

2298
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 1: I will say that the ones in Paradise have They've

2299
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:05,520
been growing on me. I don't like, I don't know

2300
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:07,319
how they feel. I don't know how they look up close,

2301
01:55:07,399 --> 01:55:10,600
but I'm starting to really dig them looking at the

2302
01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:14,039
streams and sad and I also think they fit the vibe,

2303
01:55:14,159 --> 01:55:16,560
you know, they look they look like you're supposed to

2304
01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:21,199
be in the Bahamas. So yeah, that's good. We also

2305
01:55:21,199 --> 01:55:24,520
want to hit on a family pot because of course,

2306
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:28,079
why not. It's holiday season. Sure, so let's play the

2307
01:55:28,159 --> 01:55:29,840
music for that one, and then we'll come on back

2308
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:31,159
and we'll give a family pot.

2309
01:55:31,399 --> 01:55:32,079
Speaker 2: It's time for.

2310
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:45,319
Speaker 1: Family, all right. So I had my whole Bravo con

2311
01:55:45,359 --> 01:55:48,199
situation that I talked about, you know, the whole twenty

2312
01:55:48,239 --> 01:55:50,000
five hundred dollars. I don't know if you can see this,

2313
01:55:50,359 --> 01:55:52,640
but here my lover Boy hat. This is a twenty

2314
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:55,800
five hundred Bravo Con hat. This is my my uh my,

2315
01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:59,640
you pay twenty well no, but my my wife went

2316
01:55:59,680 --> 01:56:02,199
to the event and you know, obviously paid twenty five

2317
01:56:02,239 --> 01:56:04,039
hundred dollars, but she brought me this hat. So I

2318
01:56:04,079 --> 01:56:04,920
feel like I won.

2319
01:56:07,159 --> 01:56:07,399
Speaker 2: Boy.

2320
01:56:09,279 --> 01:56:11,439
Speaker 1: Kyle from Summerhouse has.

2321
01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:13,399
Speaker 2: A brand, like I'm supposed to know that name.

2322
01:56:13,479 --> 01:56:16,520
Speaker 1: No, I'm just talking to the people. Kyle from Summerhouse

2323
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:20,560
has a brand. It's like a I don't even know,

2324
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,479
Like I don't even know what to call them. Lover boy,

2325
01:56:22,479 --> 01:56:23,439
it's like an alcoholic drink.

2326
01:56:23,439 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 2: It's like a truly got it.

2327
01:56:27,079 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I'm repping the band brand right here,

2328
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:34,399
lover boy. It's amazing. When I was in line the

2329
01:56:34,439 --> 01:56:37,159
other day to register for an event at the wind.

2330
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:39,800
The woman was like, love your hat. I said, oh

2331
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:41,720
you're you're a fan. She's like, oh yeah, I know

2332
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,439
exactly what that is. I was like, perfect, I'm in there,

2333
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:47,560
let's go. Basically, this cost me twenty five hundred dollars.

2334
01:56:48,039 --> 01:56:51,720
All right, So my family pot involves a little family

2335
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:56,359
trip out to Enchant, which is at the Las Vegas Ballpark.

2336
01:56:56,439 --> 01:56:59,720
Here in Vegas. We try and go, I think every

2337
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:04,119
single year. My wife just texted me because she's upstairs working,

2338
01:57:04,119 --> 01:57:06,760
and she said, it's a seltzer. That's the word that

2339
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:11,479
I couldn't think of lovably. So anyway, I've never had one. Though,

2340
01:57:11,479 --> 01:57:12,640
I have no idea if they're good or not, but

2341
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:14,960
I'm gonna take everyone's word for it and say that

2342
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:18,960
they're decent. So anyway, we go to in Chant the

2343
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:20,359
other night my parents are in town and make a

2344
01:57:20,399 --> 01:57:21,960
whole thing out of it. Bring the kids, blah blah

2345
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:25,479
blah whatever. They turned the whole Las Vegas Ballpark into

2346
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:29,880
basically a giant Christmas village. They got trees, lights, The

2347
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,399
sole center part of the ballpark is it's a it's

2348
01:57:32,439 --> 01:57:35,600
a maze, you know, holiday vibes are going. They got

2349
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,359
shops all around they got food games, you know, the

2350
01:57:38,359 --> 01:57:44,880
whole thing. This year they had a new giant slide thing,

2351
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:49,319
a tube slide, which was yeah, multiple stories. You know,

2352
01:57:49,399 --> 01:57:52,720
you get on a tube, you go down, it's like

2353
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:57,640
snow and ice mostly ice whatever. Cool. Fine, my daughter

2354
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,119
really wanted to go on it. She locks in working

2355
01:57:59,960 --> 01:58:04,199
to go great. I'm like, I'll take her, fine, whatever.

2356
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:08,279
So I'm also just gonna say that I already know

2357
01:58:08,319 --> 01:58:10,840
what people are gonna say about this story, about this

2358
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:14,399
version of family pot but I'm just gonna say upfront

2359
01:58:14,479 --> 01:58:19,119
that it's completely on me for ignoring my parental instincts. Okay,

2360
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:21,920
that is that. You know, I listened to a four

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01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:23,479
and a half year old. I should not have done

2362
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:27,079
that as a forty one year old man. But here

2363
01:58:27,119 --> 01:58:30,560
I am. So that said, I will not continue. We

2364
01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:33,279
do the whole ticket thing, We get in line, the

2365
01:58:33,319 --> 01:58:36,039
line's like, you know, winding around the whole thing whatever.

2366
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:39,319
It's like looking like, okay, we're gonna be here ten fifteen,

2367
01:58:39,359 --> 01:58:42,560
maybe twenty minutes whatever. Five minutes in she starts like

2368
01:58:43,039 --> 01:58:45,560
doing the wiggle. We all know, the freaking wiggle. I

2369
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:46,359
know she has to go.

2370
01:58:46,279 --> 01:58:46,880
Speaker 2: To the bathroom.

2371
01:58:47,279 --> 01:58:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you have to go to the bathroom.

2372
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:51,840
She says yes. I'm like, okay, we have to get

2373
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:53,439
out of line, obviously, go to the bathroom. She doesn't

2374
01:58:53,439 --> 01:58:54,720
want to get on a line because she wants to

2375
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:56,840
go on the slide. I'm like, well, why don't we

2376
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:58,840
just go to the bathroom, we'll come back, we'll wait again, whatever.

2377
01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:00,840
She doesn't want to get out. She's adamant that she'll

2378
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,840
be fine, and again she's four and a half. This

2379
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:05,640
is where I screwed up because I just said, no,

2380
01:59:06,119 --> 01:59:08,079
we're just going to the bathroom. We don't go to

2381
01:59:08,119 --> 01:59:11,279
the bathroom. I can't believe it, but I actually trusted

2382
01:59:11,279 --> 01:59:14,479
her judgment in this situation, and my kind of my

2383
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:17,800
thought process was like, well, maybe i'll just wait like

2384
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:19,760
a couple of minutes and see if she gets better.

2385
01:59:20,359 --> 01:59:23,520
Two three minutes later, whatever the heck, she's like wiggling again.

2386
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:25,319
I'm like, okay, we got to go to the bathroom.

2387
01:59:25,359 --> 01:59:27,520
So now I'm just now I'm like, okay, we're going

2388
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:29,479
to the bathroom, like end of story. But she doesn't

2389
01:59:29,479 --> 01:59:31,039
want to go. She starts kind of throwing a little fit.

2390
01:59:31,119 --> 01:59:32,520
She doesn't want to go. She's like, no, I'll be fine,

2391
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:34,840
I'll be fine. I'll be fine, and she stops the wiggling.

2392
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:36,680
She's just standing there. I'm like, okay, maybe I'll give

2393
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,000
her another three to five minutes and whatever. And of

2394
01:59:39,039 --> 01:59:41,039
course I'm in my head, I'm like, well, we're wasting

2395
01:59:41,039 --> 01:59:42,640
ten minutes in the line. We're gonna have to get

2396
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:44,319
out go to the bathroom eventually, and then we're gonna

2397
01:59:44,279 --> 01:59:45,880
have to come back and wait back in the line.

2398
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:47,439
So it's just kind of the whole thing's just annoying

2399
01:59:47,439 --> 01:59:51,680
to me already anyway. Whatever, So I'm like, all right, well,

2400
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:56,319
let's just see how things play out. We go through

2401
01:59:56,359 --> 01:59:58,079
the whole line. She's good the rest of the way,

2402
01:59:58,239 --> 02:00:00,239
no more wiggling. She doesn't bring up a to go

2403
02:00:00,279 --> 02:00:02,920
to the bathroom. She can tell. She's like getting excited

2404
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:06,920
to go on the slides. Cool, you get a wristband,

2405
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:10,279
you get three slides with the ticket. So she doesn't

2406
02:00:10,279 --> 02:00:11,920
know you get three slides with the ticket. I do.

2407
02:00:12,039 --> 02:00:14,119
And I'm like, okay, we'll go once and then I'll

2408
02:00:14,119 --> 02:00:16,199
go to the bathroom and maybe she'll be done with

2409
02:00:16,239 --> 02:00:18,960
the slides. Maybe she won't, but we'll see how the

2410
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:22,720
first one goes. Worst case, we have to like go

2411
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:24,279
to the bathroom and then come back and finish our

2412
02:00:24,279 --> 02:00:27,159
two more. If we don't, then you know, I only

2413
02:00:27,199 --> 02:00:29,319
went once, I paid for three times. Who cares, I'll

2414
02:00:29,319 --> 02:00:32,960
burn twenty bucks. It's not the end of the world. Again,

2415
02:00:33,039 --> 02:00:34,760
I'm feeling good. I just made some money back with

2416
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:40,199
this twenty five hundred oars hat so gravy in my life. Also,

2417
02:00:40,359 --> 02:00:43,560
like this tube slide thing is like everyone goes by themselves,

2418
02:00:44,039 --> 02:00:45,920
like all the kids go by themselves. So she's got

2419
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:47,640
to go by herself. So there's a chance she might

2420
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:50,840
just like freak out, get completely scared, and then never

2421
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:53,600
want to go on it again. So whatever. We get

2422
02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:55,199
up to the top, you got to climb up like

2423
02:00:55,359 --> 02:00:57,640
three flights of stairs. You get to the top platform,

2424
02:00:58,079 --> 02:01:00,680
I put her in her tube, I push her down,

2425
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,560
I go down, boom, everything's cool. She's like she was

2426
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:06,119
both at the bottom like I'm scared. I was scared,

2427
02:01:06,439 --> 02:01:09,239
but I liked it. She wanted to go again, like okay, fine,

2428
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:11,920
no incidence with the bathroom. I'm like, okay, I think

2429
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:14,359
we're in the clear. Fine, back up the stairs we go.

2430
02:01:14,479 --> 02:01:16,399
We got our tubes. We're at the very top. Now

2431
02:01:17,279 --> 02:01:19,199
I'm like setting up the two tubes. You just put

2432
02:01:19,199 --> 02:01:21,359
them down at the top and then you sit in them.

2433
02:01:21,359 --> 02:01:25,000
As I'm setting the tubes down, she starts yelling, Daddy, daddy,

2434
02:01:25,159 --> 02:01:30,520
I'm pean. I turn around. It is like a waterfall

2435
02:01:31,199 --> 02:01:33,239
coming out of the bottom of her coat, bottom of

2436
02:01:33,239 --> 02:01:36,439
her dress, all over like her pants. It's just like

2437
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:39,439
streaming down her legs. I'm just like, oh my god,

2438
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:43,960
like what is happening. I'm kind of like looking around

2439
02:01:44,039 --> 02:01:45,920
to see if well, first, I'm like looking around to

2440
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:48,840
see if anyone's noticing. No one's noticing. Everyone's like putting

2441
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:51,840
their stuff in their tubes. There's one like employee on

2442
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:53,840
the platform. He's like on the other side. He could

2443
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:56,520
give two craps about what is actually happening on the platform.

2444
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:58,720
Like I could have like ripped my clothes off and

2445
02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:02,079
like went down naked and he would have not cared anyway.

2446
02:02:02,359 --> 02:02:04,520
So she's freaking out. So I'm like, okay, whatever. So

2447
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:06,159
I'm just like I'm basically like, okay, well, I'll just

2448
02:02:06,199 --> 02:02:09,399
let her pee, Okay, So I just let her pee,

2449
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:11,359
and then what am I gonna do? Like all these

2450
02:02:11,359 --> 02:02:14,199
people are like coming up this like narrow staircase and

2451
02:02:14,239 --> 02:02:16,560
everyone's got tubes, and the tubes are big, you can't

2452
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:19,039
really go down. So I'm like, well, okay, our only

2453
02:02:19,079 --> 02:02:23,560
way down is gotta get in the tubes, right, okay. Whatever.

2454
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:28,439
So I put her in the in the thing in

2455
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:32,880
the in the tube, and I just push her down

2456
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:37,800
and then I go down right behind and I get

2457
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:41,119
down to the bottom, and I'm like, okay, like we

2458
02:02:41,239 --> 02:02:43,359
made it, like whatever. But she's like she's not getting

2459
02:02:43,399 --> 02:02:45,079
out of the tube, and so like she's in front

2460
02:02:45,079 --> 02:02:46,359
of me, and I'm just like, oh my god, she's

2461
02:02:46,359 --> 02:02:49,039
probably peeing again. Probably the fact that now she's scared

2462
02:02:49,079 --> 02:02:51,560
and she's freaking out, she's whatever. So I like have

2463
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:54,439
to like lift her up. Then I realize that these

2464
02:02:54,479 --> 02:02:57,960
tubes aren't like your normal tubes. They have like this

2465
02:02:58,039 --> 02:03:00,000
kind of cover on them where the bottom is all

2466
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:03,239
also rubber, so the whole thing is basically like a

2467
02:03:03,279 --> 02:03:07,640
pool of p Now, so I'm just like, holy shit, what,

2468
02:03:07,960 --> 02:03:09,800
Like I am such an idiot of a parent, Like

2469
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:12,680
what am I doing? She's covered in pe, she's she's

2470
02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:14,960
walking like she's a cowboy who's been on a horse

2471
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:17,399
for twelve hours. Like she's like she can't move, you know,

2472
02:03:17,439 --> 02:03:19,439
like she's got wooden legs, and like the whole I'm

2473
02:03:19,479 --> 02:03:21,840
trying to find someone. No one's around, Like it's just

2474
02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:24,199
this whole thing. So then I like I'm trying to

2475
02:03:24,239 --> 02:03:27,920
walk off, and like where this thing is in the ballpark.

2476
02:03:28,039 --> 02:03:30,640
There's like this big walkway like up top, and like

2477
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:33,439
everyone's like watching everyone go down these things, watching their friends,

2478
02:03:33,439 --> 02:03:36,039
their family members, whatever, And I'm just there, like literally

2479
02:03:36,159 --> 02:03:39,119
dumping out a tube full of p and everyone's probably

2480
02:03:39,119 --> 02:03:41,840
looking at me like, who the f is this a hole?

2481
02:03:42,119 --> 02:03:44,199
And what the hell is going on? The whole thing

2482
02:03:44,359 --> 02:03:48,600
was just just it was It was incredible. But again

2483
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:50,800
it's it's largely my fault because I should have just

2484
02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:53,319
took her to the bathroom. I trusted her not to

2485
02:03:53,359 --> 02:03:56,640
go and that was my era there. But holy hell.

2486
02:03:58,399 --> 02:04:03,319
So that's it. Welcome to enchant. I find a guy

2487
02:04:03,359 --> 02:04:05,439
on the I find a guy. What's that?

2488
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 2: Welcome to parent Yeah exactly.

2489
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:09,720
Speaker 1: I find a guy on the end at the end,

2490
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:12,920
and I'm like, listen, this is what happened. Whatever I mean,

2491
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,800
he could be he could not have been any less

2492
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:18,399
interested in what the hell was going on. He's like,

2493
02:04:18,439 --> 02:04:21,079
just go put it behind the shed over there, I'm like, okay,

2494
02:04:21,079 --> 02:04:22,960
so I like, go put the two behind the shed.

2495
02:04:23,439 --> 02:04:26,039
Then I have to bring my daughter out. We have

2496
02:04:26,079 --> 02:04:29,239
to obviously get her changed. My wife goes into the

2497
02:04:29,239 --> 02:04:32,560
bathroom to take her or change. She comes out. She's

2498
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:35,920
wearing my wife's shirt as like a dress now because

2499
02:04:35,960 --> 02:04:38,359
like all her clothes and everything were coming. It was

2500
02:04:38,359 --> 02:04:41,760
just the whole thing was a disaster. But but she

2501
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:44,439
loved the slide. She had a good time. So I guess,

2502
02:04:44,479 --> 02:04:45,880
so I guess you know, it was just a little

2503
02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:51,479
bit of pee whatever, no big deal. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

2504
02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:54,039
you got a family. Potter was the only one I

2505
02:04:54,119 --> 02:04:57,720
do not. Okay, Well, you know, bravo kan last time,

2506
02:04:58,079 --> 02:05:00,279
uh you know, peeing at the top of the tube

2507
02:05:00,279 --> 02:05:03,119
slide it enchant this time. Lord only knows what the

2508
02:05:03,159 --> 02:05:07,000
hell's gonna happen next time, but you know, we'll figure

2509
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:08,279
it out as we go.

2510
02:05:08,600 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 2: I had something similar once for a ferris wheel, and

2511
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:15,840
we got up to the top or near the top,

2512
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:18,079
and then we just went We just left went to

2513
02:05:18,199 --> 02:05:20,119
pay and then came back in line. But it wasn't

2514
02:05:20,159 --> 02:05:23,279
like in Chant with the line. There's probably hundreds of

2515
02:05:23,319 --> 02:05:25,800
people date. This was, you know, one spin in the

2516
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:29,119
fairest wheel. So sometimes he's gonna make that gut decision right,

2517
02:05:29,159 --> 02:05:32,000
and you just sometimes doubt yourself on should you just

2518
02:05:32,039 --> 02:05:35,520
wait or should you, you know, stay stay in line.

2519
02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:37,039
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna do it for us. What do

2520
02:05:37,079 --> 02:05:38,640
you think? You don't even know how long we've been?

2521
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:41,600
Two hours? Oh my god, Rich is gonna kill me.

2522
02:05:42,159 --> 02:05:45,760
I can't wait? Sorry, Rich, Ryan, Well, it was a

2523
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:46,439
great show though.

2524
02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:50,000
Speaker 2: At least he doesn't have to edit the video, just audio. No,

2525
02:05:50,119 --> 02:05:50,439
I don't know.

2526
02:05:50,479 --> 02:05:51,680
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll send them in the video too.

2527
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:55,319
Speaker 2: No, we from home sitting in the dock office.

2528
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:58,159
Speaker 1: Who cares. He'll frame it all nice. It'll be a whole.

2529
02:05:57,960 --> 02:05:59,800
Speaker 2: Thing, not video. Rich.

2530
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,439
Speaker 1: Well, whatever, all right, that's gonna do it for us.

2531
02:06:03,439 --> 02:06:05,439
His name is Tim Duckworth, my name is Donnie Peters,

2532
02:06:05,479 --> 02:06:07,199
and we will talk to you guys next time.

2533
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:18,159
Speaker 2: So Yo, rednight, ja Express