WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.000 Now one of your pudding. I got a string going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog, 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.960 my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree. 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.640 I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm 5 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.120 really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over 6 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:17.800 the fence and he was dead. And once you hit 7 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:19.679 the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I 8 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:38.320 saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what 9 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.960 are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling 10 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:51.920 around out here? Did you see what it was? 11 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:52.240 Or was it was? 12 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.719 Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now 13 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:58.600 and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus, 14 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:04.799 quice you better or hello? Hit somebody out here? 15 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:06.000 What's que on out there? 16 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:08.480 That's thought of a bit of about sixty forty nine. 17 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:11.480 I don't know easy them out there? Yeah, I'm right away. 18 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:15.280 Greetings from Alaska. His spread roll cur On Tribal Council 19 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:18.560 member from Dillingham, Alaska. One thing I wanted to touch 20 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:22.200 on is our culture. We don't have a written history 21 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:24.519 per se. There was a book published in the mid 22 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:27.680 seventies called Story Knife. It touches on a few things, 23 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:31.280 but we don't have a history book. We have our 24 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:34.400 oral tradition where I pass on stories from my elders 25 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:37.719 and then it just translates on down. That's just how 26 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:39.439 it is. That's how we know where the good berry 27 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:41.719 patches are, That's how we know where the good fishing 28 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:45.879 places are and things of this nature. Because that's our culture. 29 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:50.000 I feel that helps me express other people's encounters, because 30 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:53.519 we're from a culture of very descriptive because it was 31 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:56.280 detrimental if you made a wrong turn somewhere, you went 32 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.079 the wrong way, could be danger that way. So we 33 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:03.680 took giving directions and whatnot very seriously, even to this day. 34 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:06.719 So even with all the technology and all because with 35 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:09.879 the GPS, if your batteries die or you lose signals 36 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:12.280 and what you got if you don't have the memory 37 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:15.680 of where you're going. Anyway, I just wanted to touch 38 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:18.759 on that story. Knife is the only written book I 39 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:22.000 know of that even touches on our people. This encounter 40 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:24.319 I'm going to share with you guys. This happened to Jerry. 41 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:29.240 Jerry is originally from Togiak. He told me this encounter 42 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:31.520 in two thousand and four when I was in the village. 43 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:34.319 We're a spot in herring. We were on a low 44 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:37.479 point because we spotted the herring. The perse saying had 45 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:40.520 like one hundred thousand tons or something pursed up and 46 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:43.319 they had to offload. And so how they do it 47 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:45.159 is the boat would be floating, you get your purse 48 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:47.240 out and then it gets cinched up into this big, 49 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:50.400 massive net with all the fish in the middle. Is 50 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:52.719 a live catch. They're not gill netted or anything. They're 51 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:56.599 life caught. And what happens is the factory boat will 52 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:59.439 pull up alongside and drop these big tubes down into 53 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.840 the water, pump out the fish, and the water spits 54 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:04.800 out the other side, the fish going the holding tank. 55 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:09.319 They're doing that. We land in Togyak to refuel because 56 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:12.319 I tell you, flying around for ten twelve hours a 57 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:14.719 day in a left handed turn a mile up in 58 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:18.280 a super cup, it gets tiring man, especially backseat, you're 59 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:20.919 just holding a stick trying to keep it at elevation 60 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.560 and keep your turn and not slip too far left 61 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:27.439 or right, keeping him over where he's spotting. So it's 62 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:29.919 like being tied to a string just whipping around. So 63 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:33.199 we're pretty tired. So when we landed, he was fueling 64 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:35.360 up I walked over to the ac Market and ran 65 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:37.439 into one of my relatives who was in town from 66 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:40.439 Dillingham doing some electrical work. This guy, Jerry comes over 67 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:42.960 because he knew my relative and they were talking. So 68 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:45.879 my relative went into the Ac or the Eagle Market, 69 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:48.800 was doing some shopping because he was staying at another 70 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:52.080 relative's home. And Jerry was talking to me and he goes, 71 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:53.520 you want a monyuck you want to eat? And I 72 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:57.000 was like, hell, yeah, what you got? Hook it up, man, 73 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.280 don't talk about it, let's be about it. So we 74 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:01.520 go over to his house, yes, and we're sitting down 75 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:04.639 eating and the subject of Harryman comes up. I was 76 00:04:04.639 --> 00:04:07.879 talking about the pin Air flight that spotted to harry 77 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:10.000 Man back in ninety seven. It was in the Bristol 78 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:13.280 Bay Times. They got some kind of archive under Bristol 79 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.079 Bay Times in ninety seven. Harryman bought it in the Tundra. 80 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.879 You can look it up anyway. I was talking to 81 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:21.720 him about that because it so happened he was on 82 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:25.040 that particular flight, and he brought it up when I 83 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:27.399 mentioned it. Because we're just talking about the harry Man 84 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:29.480 and you know, what people believe or what they don't believe. 85 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:31.920 He laughs, and he goes, I was on that flight. 86 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:34.680 But let me tell you something I said. Let's hear 87 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:37.879 it years back. He didn't specify the year. They were 88 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:41.120 west of Nondalton. It was fresh into the winter, so 89 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.879 there was a fresh layer of snow, fresh dusting everywhere. 90 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:47.199 First chance, they had to run snow machine. So they 91 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:48.879 took their snow machines and they went out to the 92 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:51.600 west end of this valley looking for cariboo and they 93 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:53.439 saw the herd off in the distance. So they went 94 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:55.720 around this rise, parked their sleds, and then hiked up 95 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:58.120 over the ridge into this tree line that ran across 96 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:01.480 into this valley. It was on the wa side, and 97 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:03.600 they're in this tree line and down it it's basically 98 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:05.759 tundra down there. So it just looked like a sheet 99 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:08.279 of snow across the valley and then some trees on 100 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:11.639 the other side because it's mainly marshy, swampy tundra. And 101 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:14.120 so they're looking at the caribou movement and they hear 102 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:16.240 wolf howls in the distance, so they're like, oh, we 103 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:19.480 might see some national geographic shit. They didn't put it 104 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:21.920 that way, but that's essentially what it would be wolves 105 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:24.800 chasing caribou in the wild. Come on, so they go. 106 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:26.639 They're making their way through the trees to get a 107 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:28.519 better position. They're up on this little bit of a 108 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.399 rise and there's four of them. They're just watching what's unfolding. 109 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:34.439 The caribou curdled together. They were all spread out, digging 110 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:37.560 around for liking. They all come together in this group. 111 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:40.279 Off in the distance. They could see the trotting of 112 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:42.199 the wolves right along the tree line. They're ducking in 113 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:45.199 and in between the trees coming up bottom and the caribou. 114 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:47.759 All the bulls were to the outside. There was about 115 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:50.399 five bulls, a few females, and then the younger ones. 116 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:52.839 It wasn't a very large group of them, but they 117 00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:55.199 all put up their defenses. All the bulls on the 118 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:59.319 outside and they're ready for whatever. The wolves come and 119 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:01.519 they're circling around. They're doing their thing. They're trying to 120 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.360 pick out which one they want. Basically, the biggest bull 121 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:07.160 in the herd kept running around with its chin up 122 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:09.439 swaying its antlers back and forth as a sign of 123 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:12.040 defiance to them. I guess they had heard a weird 124 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:14.800 noise up the hill along the same tree line they 125 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:16.959 were in, but further up where they couldn't see it 126 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.720 cut back into a draw, so just out of view 127 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:22.160 to their left, the draw cuts up and the tree 128 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:24.240 line cut around as well, and they heard a noise 129 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:26.720 but they couldn't see it, and once whatever it was 130 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:28.680 did come into view, it was a black blur, and 131 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:30.519 then it was obscured by the trees that were in 132 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:33.120 front of them because they're in line with the trees, 133 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:36.000 so it was sparsely treed, but they were in line 134 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:38.000 with it, so it was all a bunch of trees, 135 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.360 so they thought none of it. They thought it was 136 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:44.120 the alpha wolf coming down to quarterback display on these caribou. 137 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:47.480 Wasn't the case. They heard a scream, and the scream 138 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:50.879 got everyone's attention, the caribou, the wolves, they all eyes 139 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.319 up under the tree line and I'm just imagining this 140 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:55.879 in my mind. All of a sudden, heard this sound 141 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:58.959 goes off and then also and everyone's eyes that direction. 142 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:01.800 It didn't matter. The predator and the prey were just 143 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:05.519 prey in that moment. So they're watching and they're waiting 144 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:07.279 for this alpha because they figured it was a big 145 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:10.360 black alpha wolf and they just caught a glimpse of it. 146 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:13.439 The scream was off, so they were taken aback. This 147 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:15.519 particular guy, Jerry, he had dealt with a harry Man 148 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:17.959 about ten years prior on the now she gag, but 149 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:19.879 the guys he was with did, and so he just 150 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:22.120 kept that quiet. He didn't want to interject anything. He 151 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:24.439 wanted to see their reaction. And they had some two 152 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:28.120 seventies and two forty threes, nothing super high powered, definitely 153 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:32.199 dropped some caribou. So they're watching and screams again, this 154 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:34.639 time very high pitched, and he immediately he's that's a 155 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:37.560 harry Man and everyone that was with them, the three 156 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:39.600 other guys are like, no, that's got to be a wolf, 157 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:43.079 just something's wrong with it, and he goes, no, let's watch. 158 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:48.279 So as they're watching, the wolves take off going back 159 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:51.120 down the valley the direction they came. I'm talking hall asses. 160 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:54.800 First they scattered like a shotgun blast, and then all 161 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:57.480 went off down the valley. Now they're watching that, and 162 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.160 they still haven't seen it, and they heard the scream, 163 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:01.519 but they're all curious. Now they're up on this little 164 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:04.920 rise looking down on these caribou and that bull caribou, 165 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:10.199 which would assumably stay over there, mama moose anyway, got 166 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:13.319 a mama moose back over here with her yearling calf. 167 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:18.720 Resident cow eats my leaves and shrubs in my yard. 168 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.759 Damn thing can have a garden anyway, So I digress. 169 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:25.439 They're watching it, and the bull circles around, and it 170 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:28.199 doesn't know what to do. So the bull starts going 171 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:30.399 up the hill a little ways and is looking back 172 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:32.360 at the small herd, and the small herd starts moving 173 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:35.360 along down in the direction the wolves went, and out 174 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:38.639 of nowhere, the caribou bull jumps and turns to run 175 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:40.960 down the hill to get back with the group because 176 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:43.039 of what it was just up a little ways, not 177 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:45.159 like it was trying to call out to harry Man 178 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:47.440 or anything like that. It was just like trying to 179 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:50.000 check out what was going on. And as it does 180 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.080 it and it turns to go back towards the herd, 181 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.559 all of a sudden, a flash just of dark comes 182 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:57.480 down and they saw just this big arm just backhand 183 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:01.039 this caribou across its chest like a across its rib cage. 184 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:04.639 Damnar folded it in half? What and it flung it 185 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.120 and it flings off and lands in the snow, dead 186 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:09.399 as a door. Nill and the other caribou take off, 187 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.840 and this thing chases after it on two feet. It 188 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.039 had to get the chill sinking. Can you imagine you're 189 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:18.720 watching a nature show live right before you, and all 190 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:20.759 of a sudden, this shit happens. Can you imagine what 191 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:22.480 would go through your mind to hear a scream and 192 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:24.159 then trying to figure out what the hell? And then 193 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.840 this thing runs out and backhands the cariboo to piss 194 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:33.039 and shatters its body and it flings theah. So immediately 195 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.360 that got their attention, and they all got their rifles 196 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:37.320 all of a sudden on the ready, watching this thing, 197 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:40.240 and it is chasing the cariboo down the valley the 198 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:44.080 direction the wolves went, and it's out pacing the caribou, 199 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:46.559 and it gets up ahead of them and off into 200 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:49.600 the trees and they no longer see it right here 201 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:52.159 it's green one time, and the caribou start cutting across 202 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:55.759 the valley the other direction, and everything goes dead quiet, 203 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:57.919 and they're just listening to the crunch and the slet 204 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:01.000 of the snow of these cariboo as a across the valley. 205 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:05.200 So they're like, well, all this happening The carib wh 206 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.559 and everything else ran down near half mile down this 207 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:11.039 valley before they cut and started going across the valley. 208 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:14.120 So they figured, let's check out this caribou. Maybe we 209 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.399 can salvage some quarters off of it, but won't be 210 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:20.960 a wasted trip, which is brave salute. I'd have been 211 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:23.600 let's go. I don't want to get backhanded like that. 212 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:26.559 Holy shit. Talk about five across the eye. Holy crap. 213 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:28.840 So they go down to investigating when they got their 214 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:31.720 knives out real quick, and Jerry breaks out his ulu 215 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:34.759 and he has the other three keeping watch, and he's 216 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:37.919 gutting it out and he opens up the rib cage 217 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:40.960 and the ribs are shattered, so it's basically pushing mush. 218 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:44.519 It shattered the heart. It looked like shattered glass, he said. 219 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:48.159 From the impact. The lungs were just jello. Anyone who's 220 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:51.200 ever went hunting and shot a lung shot, and you 221 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:53.440 know how the lung tissue itself will be all like 222 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:56.159 kind of like a slimeball like it has it. You 223 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:59.120 could just squeeze it and it just it's jelly. And 224 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:01.440 that was a consistent and see of everything in its 225 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:05.480 enterds shattered the intestines and everything. It was just exploded 226 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:08.360 on the inside. And so they quickly they got the 227 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:11.320 two rear quarters. And as they got the two rear 228 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:14.480 quarters and they flung them on the packs off in 229 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:16.879 the distance, they hear the scream again and it's in 230 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:19.360 their direction. So immediately they're like, we're not going to 231 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:22.559 be like this caribou. Let's go. So they all they 232 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:24.759 go back up over the ridge, and just as they 233 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:26.759 drop over the ridge down to and they could see 234 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.679 their snow machines, which is still a good hundred yards away, 235 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:33.080 they hear a scream even closer, and it had to 236 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:34.960 have been coming from that little rise where they were 237 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:38.240 sitting just moments earlier when this shit went down. So 238 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:42.720 they immediately they're on edge. The guys carrying the quarters stopped. 239 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:45.840 They were about halfway down this rise, halfway to the 240 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:47.879 distance of the snow machine, ahead of Jerry and this 241 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:51.159 other guy. When Jerry tells them, hey, drop the quarters 242 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:52.919 on the ground. Just drop them. We got to drop, 243 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:54.799 but we can't take these with us. It's gonna come 244 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:57.080 with us if we do. They were like, no, it's 245 00:11:57.120 --> 00:11:58.559 not going to follow us. They won't catch us on 246 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:02.120 the snow machine. No, now, let's drop it, trust me 247 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:05.000 drop it. And as he's arguing with them and Jerry 248 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:07.159 walks past, the other guy's still looking up behind him 249 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:08.559 on the ridge. All of a sudden he's got his 250 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:11.480 rifle up and starts shooting right as Jerry's almost damnar 251 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:15.000 right beside him. He's like, here's this ring and turns 252 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:17.639 around and he sees the dark figure duck behind the ridge. 253 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:20.720 Now everyone was spook because this thing's just less than 254 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:24.279 fifty yards away, because Jerry and this other guy were 255 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:27.000 half the distance. So they're about twenty five yards from 256 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:28.840 the ridge and the other guys are about fifty yards 257 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:32.519 towards the snow machines. Immediately, the guys dropped their backs 258 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:35.519 and everything caribous attached. They didn't give a shit, and 259 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:38.759 they're high tailing it because Jerry didn't see what it 260 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:41.200 did behind him. It had stood up and it had 261 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:44.039 a piece of wood, and as it was picking up 262 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:46.720 the log fling it at them, the guy shot, so 263 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:49.720 it ducked down and then took off when Jerry looked back. 264 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:53.159 So the guy made the shot and narrowly averted some 265 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:56.200 serious shit, you know what I mean. So they dropped 266 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:59.000 packs because they saw that shit, and they all just 267 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:02.519 they start gattering. And so when they get to the 268 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:04.960 snow machines, they're just crankling because sometime they passed so 269 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:07.279 they cooled off. So they're trying, whether they're hitting the 270 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:09.320 chokes and all that shit, trying to get these old 271 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:12.919 arcticats ripping. So they got them fired up. And as 272 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:15.159 they're fired up, and they're circling to get out of there, 273 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:17.440 because when the snow machine's really cold, you can get 274 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:19.240 it to move little by a little, but until it's 275 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:21.960 fully warmed up, you're gonna have some issues, especially with 276 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.360 those older sleds. Anyone who knows what I'm talking about, 277 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:28.960 they'll understand perfectly. So as they're circling to get turned 278 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.519 around to get the hell out of Dodge, this thing 279 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.799 had come down in the meantime and just flung the 280 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:38.919 quarters up back up over that ridge with the backpack 281 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:41.679 packs that attached and just all of it just swinging 282 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:47.559 a massive distance okay over fifty yards, which I mean 283 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:51.240 to a caribou quarter and a full pack pull of 284 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:54.440 shit just flung like it was nothing. The amount of 285 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:57.600 force needed for that. But he said, the one thing 286 00:13:57.639 --> 00:14:01.279 that stood out outside of being scared shitless. Was the 287 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:04.519 impact of that smack, he said, in his mind, he 288 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.720 could see it replayed where the whole arm just disappeared 289 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:10.960 into the caribou and it buckled around it and then flung. 290 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:15.159 I could imagine that sound. Holy shit. They skid out 291 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:17.159 on and they get out of there, And I was like, 292 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:20.039 what'd your buddy say? The ones that hadn't experienced Harryman, 293 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.799 He goes, we don't talk. We stopped after that trip. 294 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:25.759 I tried to talk to him the next day with 295 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:28.480 some homebrew. They wouldn't even join me for homebrew. They 296 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:30.919 were busy, they weren't feeling good, they had a headache. 297 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:34.639 So these things happened quite often. And even though in 298 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:39.759 a tight community and these things happened, there's still a separation. 299 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:43.440 People still want to separate themselves from what happened. I 300 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:45.600 don't know why that is. You would think as a 301 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:49.320 community it would bring them closer, But then you hear 302 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:53.919 experiences from someone else's family man, but rarely do you 303 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:56.639 get it from direct family members. It's almost like a 304 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:59.039 certain type of shame. I'm still delving into it. I'm 305 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:01.960 not sure if there's some kind of connotation to it. 306 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:05.399 Like a bad omen if dealing with the Harryman, that 307 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:08.159 type of thing. I don't know. I'm gonna find out. 308 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:09.799 Like I said, I lost my roots, so I'm gonna 309 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:12.080 be honest with you. Tried away, I went to the city. 310 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:14.320 I tried to do all this other shit that I 311 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:18.360 would have been better off. Stay tuned for more Sasquatchy 312 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:20.919 Oat to see. We'll be right back after these messages. 313 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:26.440 I wanted to share that with you guys, give you 314 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:29.000 that heads up. Oh he did share his first harry 315 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:30.919 Man experience, which was on the west channel of the 316 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:34.320 Nushigak River. Almost forgot that part because as we were 317 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:36.559 talking and he told me that one, and I brought up, 318 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:39.159 what was your first one? He said, they were setting 319 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:42.120 window panes, these little nine in square window panes in 320 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:45.399 these windows along the west channel in this cabin on 321 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:49.559 the Nushigak just above Portage Creek. Now, this particular one, 322 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:52.360 they were doing work for this family that has a 323 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:55.320 line of these cabins that go along there, right. And 324 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:57.639 he had himself a guy named Oscar helping him so 325 00:15:57.679 --> 00:15:59.720 that Jerry and Oscar were putting these window panes in 326 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:03.600 across the cabin. Because it was brand new built. There 327 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:05.320 was an opening for the next window. He was going 328 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:07.039 to be working on the back side of the cabin 329 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:10.000 from the river's edge. He just got done setting one 330 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:12.320 pane and he was running out of glaze whatever they 331 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:15.279 were glazing in the windows with, and he yells for Oscar, 332 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:17.559 and he saw a movement in front of that other 333 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:20.519 window and thought Oscar was coming around, so he grabs 334 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:22.960 his window panes and he walks around to meet him. 335 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:26.360 And as it come around corners, it was a young 336 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:28.879 harry Man. It was a young one, still taller than 337 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:32.159 him seven footer, but real skinny and gangly looking, and 338 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:35.080 they'd make eye contact and he drops all those panes 339 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:39.120 of glass got fired from that job. But what had 340 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:42.159 happened was is the glass shattering and making all that noise. 341 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:45.000 This sink took off, running around the back side, and 342 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:47.919 as it cleared the cabin, going towards the cabin further down, 343 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:52.159 he could see the other cabin clearly. This thing leaped over. 344 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:55.159 It landed on the beach, the small beach there on 345 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:58.120 the river, and dove into the water and just a 346 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:00.840 stream of bubbles went down river and it was gone. 347 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:04.680 Can you imagine seeing that shit startled and then all 348 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:08.519 of a sudden in this coblute in the water. Again, 349 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:11.119 this stuff doesn't happen every day. I don't get the 350 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:13.920 misconception that I'm telling you, oh, this is a daily occurrence. No, 351 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:16.480 this is over the span of years and in different places. 352 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:21.480 This isn't just one person with five billion encounters. That's 353 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:24.880 not it. And as far as my encounters, I'm not unique, 354 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:28.160 not even a little bit, not even a little bit. 355 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:31.799 I'm hoping to expand what I'm talking about with the documentary. 356 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.720 And thanks again for all the support till the next one. 357 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:37.119 Thanks thanks for joining me is Fred Alaska. What I 358 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:40.359 wanted to share with you today the first part actually wow, 359 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:42.839 Actually I'll save that for some other times. What I 360 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:45.119 wanted to share with you, we'll see. His name is Sam. 361 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:50.200 Sam lives down Juneo area. Where this occurred is on 362 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:55.079 Sam's personal private property for recreation property he got nineteen 363 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:58.799 eighty three ish somewhere in there. For a number of years, 364 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:01.839 there's really no issues. Strange sounds every once in a while, 365 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:05.920 but nothing that stood out. A few years back he 366 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:09.559 had a mouse stand up overlooking part of his property 367 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:12.119 where he would go and harvest moosse every year he 368 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.000 had his brother with them. His brother didn't want to 369 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:17.119 go that morning, so he decided, you know, I'm just 370 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.640 going to go. Thought nothing of it, never had an 371 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:22.359 issue before, so there was no compelling reason to not 372 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:27.279 go by himself. Of course, fully armed, very high powered rifle. 373 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.440 Sam didn't play around with that. So he gets up 374 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.799 to this moose stand and as he's just looking over 375 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:39.119 the area, there's all these older willows and scrub willows 376 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:43.519 that just run through the place there. They're not little. 377 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:46.799 It looks like a bunch of bushes, but you're talking 378 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:51.000 ten twelve foot tall in places. It's just literally a jungle. 379 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.559 It's really hard to see through. He was sitting there 380 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:55.839 about an hour and a half. Sun had come up. 381 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:59.599 It was a quiet morning, there was no game moving around. 382 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:03.279 It was just one of those mornings. And then thrashing 383 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:08.200 from his right towards his left. This thrashing starts and 384 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:10.799 it's coming through and he was thinking, man, that's a 385 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:13.200 lot of noise, and he thought it was his brother 386 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:17.039 just coming and mess around. So he whistled things, stopped, 387 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:21.759 gave back identical whistle. Thought that was weird, and it 388 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:26.440 continued going again, So he whistled twice in succession, a 389 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:31.160 little short this little whistle. This thing stopped again, gave 390 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:34.079 him back the two identical whistles. Now he hasn't been 391 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:36.359 able to see anything. This thing's moving through the brush, 392 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:38.160 and he said, his making a hell of a noise. 393 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:43.440 Continues thrashing again, He does three whistles, This thing stops again, 394 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:47.799 gives him back the identical three whistles. Hair staying on 395 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:51.240 the neck, getting weird feelings and whatnot. And then this 396 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:55.839 thing be lined away, belined away. Never caught sight of 397 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:59.000 it or anything. He figured that's a good time to 398 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:01.960 call it a day, because he was thinking it was 399 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:04.240 his brother, and it wasn't because when he got back 400 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:07.039 to his cabin, his brother was still asleep. So there 401 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:11.319