WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:14.320 Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It 2 00:00:14.359 --> 00:00:17.039 is episode one hundred and seven. I'm Mike Mahardy here 3 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:20.719 as always. Unfortunately, once again, we're not altogether. I've got 4 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:23.079 some subs here. I've got Ben Hansen from min Max. 5 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:30.160 Hi. Yeah, yeah, Ben, how's it going? Oh good? Yeah, 6 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:32.520 it's good. I can't do this. I don't even know. 7 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:34.679 I'm in my head trying to. Like, I've heard that 8 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:36.560 man talk more than most people in my life, and 9 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:39.039 I cannot place a Yeah, I don't know how. 10 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:43.439 He sounds like he's always smiling you while you're listening 11 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:45.240 to three podcasts and wonder how. 12 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:45.759 Did they make this? 13 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:47.240 Do you hear that? 14 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:50.079 Do you hear the story about Kajima? Apparently uh just 15 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:54.119 refuses to use toilets. It's crazy. As my first try 16 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:55.079 at Ben Hanson. 17 00:00:57.240 --> 00:00:59.759 Yeah, I'm also here, and I'm not pretending to be 18 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:00.439 better Hansen. 19 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:01.520 I'm just regularly here. 20 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:03.200 But this is so exciting because this is the first 21 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:06.400 time the three of us have been together in several episodes. 22 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:09.200 Because we have been so busy with travel and corporo 23 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:12.000 life and like crazy stuff that's been going on, we 24 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:13.400 haven't had time to just be together. 25 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:14.760 About four episodes. 26 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:16.959 I think last time it was me Mary Drew and 27 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.879 then Dan the Blake club Boys, and then me Mary 28 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:22.799 Collie Fadoms. Jeez. 29 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.439 Yeah, it's been It's been a lot of stuff going on. 30 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:28.840 I say, we don't really have much to catch up. 31 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:30.760 Yeah it's not Mary this week, and I guess we 32 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:31.519 didn't really talk about it. 33 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:31.719 Mary. 34 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:32.920 Yeah, I got some stuff going on at work. 35 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:37.040 I have so many cute videos of you. I have 36 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:39.760 like really funny videos of like asking Dan to dance 37 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.680 in a nightclub and he did this like car racing maneuver. 38 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:45.560 It was very fun. I have never been more out 39 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:46.959 of my I was out of my element when I 40 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.400 went to clubs like twice in my life in my 41 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.319 twenties and immediately hated it and left boy at forty 42 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:56.359 with a bunch of influencers, I am out of it. 43 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:58.799 I guess technically, you know, I'm in that same world, 44 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:02.359 that same orbit influencer. Yeah, I feel like my version 45 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:04.560 of that is very different than the people at this party. 46 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.359 For you, baby boy, you just walked into a world 47 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:11.919 of influencers by by doing what you did. Hey, I'm 48 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:12.560 a businessman. 49 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:16.240 Now I'm see what's your title? 50 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:23.759 Chief content officer. Wait, can you run us through all right? 51 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:28.199 For like the maybe three percent of listeners who don't 52 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:30.960 know what we're referencing, can you get what? In two sentences, 53 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:33.039 Max tld explain what happened. 54 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:37.520 We bought Giant Bomb. Yes, I'm a co owner of 55 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:40.599 Giant Bomb now. Yes, and it's independent. Yes, it is 56 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:44.199 completely independent, null funded by fans, fully funded by fans. 57 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:47.439 There's no secret shady money above us. There's no you know, 58 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:49.439 investor company or venture whatever. 59 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:49.840 No. 60 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:52.919 Literally, it's just fans. That's it. I mean, well, we'll 61 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:56.360 do ads and stuff for sure, but yeah, fans and subscriptions, 62 00:02:56.439 --> 00:02:59.520 giant bomb, dot com, slash join are the backbone of 63 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:02.439 this operation. And you're a chief content officer. What is 64 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:05.879 what is Jeff Backlar? Uh? Jeff Backler? Okay, well this 65 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.800 is a wrestling reference. He is Eric Bischoff. We decided this. 66 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:11.360 I know what that means now, I watched Netflix stock 67 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:14.080 Yeah he is. Okay, So the names we decided on 68 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:19.520 right now were Grub is mister corporate. Backlar is Eric Bischoff. 69 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:22.280 I'm Chief Content Officer, which is Triple H's title a 70 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:26.240 w E. And Jan is hb I c uh and 71 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:28.719 Mike and I. He's been at fucking Disney World for 72 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:31.080 three weeks and was not part of these conversations. 73 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:33.840 He's gonna be your social media manager because that's just 74 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:35.039 what they do with the scraps. 75 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:37.400 Well, I mean, he's the one that's gonna happen anyway, 76 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:40.879 because he's the guy that needs Disney adults. Every fucking 77 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:44.159 comment he always reads. He's in every Breddit thread, every 78 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.800 YouTube comment. So he's the guy doing that anyway. He's 79 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:50.360 the one cleaning that. Shut up. Oh god, Mike, save yourself. 80 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:58.319 He's there anyway, Chief Yeah. 81 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:03.120 Dick, Yeah, so I think it's great. 82 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:08.319 It's a creative officer. I'm a fish joke whatever, whatever. 83 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:10.719 D you know, it's fucking made up and no one 84 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:11.599 gives a show. 85 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:13.159 Card. 86 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:17.519 I have not told you this news myself in on error. 87 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:18.920 I'm officially assemblier. 88 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:22.160 Now. How much does that piss you off? Me? It 89 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:26.480 doesn't off Yeah right, I'm not my dad, I'm not anything. 90 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:31.720 What are you talking about? Yeah, I figured it out 91 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:34.199 now that I can, I have said that to you. 92 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:36.040 I'm gonna quit, but I just wanted to be able 93 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:37.199 to one day say that and mean it. 94 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:40.040 But yeah, it's official. You are officially now. 95 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:43.199 Yes, not full time at all, obviously, I'm still still 96 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:44.560 in games full time. 97 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:47.120 But I see pictures of you on Instagram of you 98 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:51.680 serving wine and holding it in a fancy way, and yeah. 99 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:54.360 Oh gotcha, yeah, oh yeah. A few friends stop by 100 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:57.680 the other day when I was helping out. That's fun. 101 00:04:58.199 --> 00:04:59.920 Nice spend, spend, spend quite a lot. 102 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:04.519 Congrats you guys both have achieved monumental things I have. 103 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:07.720 Well, now we can announce Mary's news. She founded a 104 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:09.240 dodgeball league in Portland. 105 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:17.120 Wow, but I something Mary would do though. I joined 106 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:19.600 the bowling league and I the same thing. 107 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:22.160 I got a new high score one nine. 108 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:25.800 Oh, Mary, I want to bowling at you. It's in 109 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:31.319 a while. Three, that's correct, that is the total. I'm proud. 110 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.720 I don't know. I should assume you guys know a 111 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:35.000 lot about bowling, but like. 112 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:37.480 I literally that was the one class in college I 113 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:39.519 went to is bowling. I can I can score by 114 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:42.279 hand us. I used to be in the league. I 115 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:46.240 love bowling. Bowling's fantastic. My fingers keep breaking now, so 116 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:48.560 I don't know, Like the two fingers that I would 117 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:52.360 put in the holes are like breaking now, so that 118 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:53.439 would hurt, but maybe. 119 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:56.279 You could use different fingers. Holes doesn't really matter if 120 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:57.800 you use like other holes. 121 00:05:57.839 --> 00:05:59.879 The guy that does cradle, there's the guy that does 122 00:05:59.920 --> 00:06:02.279 the cradle, and like, like, you know, I've always wanted 123 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:02.800 to be that guy. 124 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:08.360 Ic I've recognized because when we did this, everybody has 125 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:11.879 their own private balls. They don't use the house balls, 126 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.879 which is what I use, but everybody has custom balls 127 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:18.399 and a lot of them. The fingers don't go all 128 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:20.560 the way in the holes. They only go to the 129 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:22.360 first knuckle, which is. 130 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.800 Yeah, which is really it's a good technique. Yeah. 131 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.120 And some people just hold the ball like they palm 132 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:31.120 it and kind of just you know, toss it. 133 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:35.360 And that's checking for lumps? What what? What pounded are 134 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:36.079 we working with here? 135 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:38.519 I do an eleven, but I've been told I need 136 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:40.399 to go up if I want to increase my score 137 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:43.040 because apparently a heavier ball knocks down more pins. But 138 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:44.240 eleven is where I'm at. 139 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:46.040 I think I've been like a twelve or fourteen guy. 140 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.920 It's been yeah forever, though it's hard, twenty three, I 141 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:52.240 think we're gamers, you know. I like I like bullying. 142 00:06:52.519 --> 00:06:56.399 It's fun, bullings awesome, Well, great, I'm not confused bowling 143 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:57.040 with dodgeball. 144 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:59.240 I would dodge you would get killed. 145 00:06:59.439 --> 00:06:59.959 I've watched it. 146 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:03.959 I yeah. So I got my new high score and 147 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:08.920 on the system they said like most improved, Mary, and 148 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:12.959 I got a coupon for free bowling, so they rewarded 149 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.680 me for being the best bowler that evening with additional bowling. 150 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:23.759 Your team, it's a four persons team. Were the Pinzi 151 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:24.360 low Hands? 152 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:25.120 Nice? 153 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:30.800 Yeah, we were almost the Michael Bolton's But I googled 154 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:32.480 it and somebody else had already thought of that, and 155 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:33.639 I wanted an original one. 156 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:40.160 Where's the bull? Yeah? I was like, you're sure you 157 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:41.120 didn't mean Bullpens. 158 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:49.279 No, you know the name of the sport, the Chicago. 159 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:51.759 Oh that's a good. 160 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:53.079 Yeah. 161 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:57.319 I was thinking I was about being the Beastie bowls. Uh, 162 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:00.120 but yeah, we were. We were chucking a lot of 163 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:05.639 names and Mike one of the ones. I said. Everybody said, no, 164 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:08.519 that's actually like really not cool and we absolutely won't 165 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:10.279 have to be the name. I was like, Mike would 166 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:15.040 have appreciated this. Yeah, full penetration that they. 167 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:17.920 Didn't like that. He did yourself a new team, Mary, 168 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:20.959 I was waiting for you, Mike, would like it. I 169 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:27.360 thought it was gonna be the bowl Cosby's. 170 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:28.920 Okay, matter of time before they came out. 171 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:30.040 It's the first time we're hanging out. 172 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:34.399 Wow, I'm sick of seeing you. Guys watched mcgruber together. 173 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:37.519 When we did, we did, we replaced you with uh 174 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:40.600 with Seth Macy from my GN so you know Jackson, 175 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:43.960 veteran of Yeah. Well actually Jake, this is his first 176 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.519 time doing the whole thing, so yeah, he finished up. 177 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:49.200 Seth Macy was with us. Grub also a veteran of 178 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:52.639 the Late Night Travel mcgroober. But yeah, yeah, we we 179 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:53.559 were thinking about you. 180 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:56.080 Yeah, because he fell asleep. We even talked about how 181 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:57.440 Dan picked. 182 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:59.879 Your nose while you fell asleep for like thirty seconds. 183 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:03.799 Yeah. Who maybe I was awake and just enjoyed it. 184 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:05.879 I got bowling ball deep in his nostril. 185 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:11.039 Yeah, the first knuckle. Yeah, you could have lifted them 186 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:14.200 up like a fourteen founder the lane. 187 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:21.320 It's like a fatality. It's jacas in the whole thing now. Yeah, 188 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:21.639 it was. 189 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:23.799 Good to have everybody together. It was like a nice 190 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:27.320 way to also socially disconnect. Something that I always tell 191 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:30.960 it's a lot, right, packs is a lot being around 192 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:33.200 a lot of people is a lot. It is wonderful 193 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:36.879 to reconnect with old friends, see fans, or just people 194 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:37.879 who love games as. 195 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:38.240 Much as you. 196 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:40.600 That is a joy to me. But I have a 197 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:42.399 I have a I have a running clock on my 198 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:45.679 in my system, and it's usually about four hours. And 199 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:48.759 after about four hours of interacting with people and talking 200 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:50.720 and chatting it up and drinking, I gotta get out 201 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:50.960 of there. 202 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:54.679 Yeah, Like my social stalmina is usually almost infinite, Like 203 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:56.879 I'm the one who will always want to shut down 204 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:57.720 the bar and all that stuff. 205 00:09:57.840 --> 00:09:58.000 Yeah. 206 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:01.080 Machine. But after after the path, it was this was 207 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:05.879 the night of the packs panel ours and oh that 208 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.159 was just there was the whole day of like planning 209 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:10.840 it together, you know, putting it together, and then like 210 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:14.080 the excitement of the hour on stage and stuff. And 211 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.440 afterwards it's like everyone was back at the at the hotel, 212 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:18.080 like you know, there's probably like one hundred people I 213 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:19.440 want to talk to there, but I just kind of 214 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:22.440 the squirrel away, you know, responded to text and stuff 215 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:24.080 like that. And then you were like, let's watch mcgroomer. 216 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:27.519 And I was like, yes, yes, yeah, I'm glad that 217 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:30.600 that was the right move because that felt good to 218 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:33.320 me too. I'm also a lot of people misconstru or 219 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:36.840 assume like extroverted people can just do that all the time, 220 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:38.919 but because I burned the candle at both ends, I 221 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:43.000 usually can't do it for very long. So I'm very 222 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.279 excited and very happy, and then at one point I'll 223 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:47.879 just be like, I gotta go. And I think it 224 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:50.759 did happen where you guys were like hanging out and 225 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:53.240 just like having a drink and I just leaned down 226 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:54.600 to both of you and said mcgroup. 227 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:59.399 They were like, yes, yes, let's do it. Yeah, because 228 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:02.440 I was coming straight from Montreal to PACs and originally 229 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:04.159 I was supposed to be in Poland right now. I 230 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:06.720 was supposed to go right from pas to Poland. And 231 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:09.639 then that was before the you know, the giant bump 232 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:11.919 thing happened, and it's like, well, our first week of content, 233 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:14.120 I cannot be gone for a week, so I had 234 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:17.360 to cancel that one. But yeah, yeah, Montreal was fun. 235 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:19.039 But by the time the PAX panel was over on 236 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:22.000 that last night, it's like Mcgruber's is cure for what ails? 237 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:25.159 Meh, you're probably spent. You were probably spent, and we've 238 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:27.879 all been busy. I mean there's no question, especially with 239 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:30.799 all our travel and stuff like that, we have a 240 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.600 lot going on. And I think that's cool and it 241 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:36.200 shows that we're booked and busy, which you love to see. 242 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.840 But it's important that we're able to also play games 243 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:42.360 and just hang out with each other. And I'm really 244 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:44.159 grateful that we were able to find time to be 245 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.720 together for this episode because it's important to catch up 246 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:49.159 and and we all have news. I mean, look at 247 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:56.080 this like Somolier new company, co owner Bowling. Yeah, I 248 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:00.480 mean they're all they're all equally important, they're all equally 249 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:04.399 of value, They're all the same magnitude of value. 250 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:09.320 Yeah, they're all universally positive for sure. Dan. Have you 251 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:12.399 found your cat? Yeah? Oh you did. I had the 252 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:16.600 message Maharty this morning because we were in the laying 253 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:19.879 in bed and the cat like was like coming up 254 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:21.840 to say hi, which you know, we got Boss the 255 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:25.240 cat like a week ago basically, and you know, he 256 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.399 he got to the point bank was giving me updates 257 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:29.240 every day while I was at packed, like, oh well, 258 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:31.320 you know, Boss just kind of like sauntered in, came 259 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:32.919 into the room. Oh, Boss is on the couch with me. 260 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:34.440 And it's like started kind of coming out of his 261 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.519 shell and coexisting with the dogs. But he came up 262 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:39.639 into the bedroom and the dogs just lost their minds 263 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:42.000 and started barking at him. And then we could not 264 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:45.360 find Boss anywhere. So I messaged Mike like, we have 265 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:48.759 looked everywhere twice and we cannot find this fucking cat anywhere. 266 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:50.679 But then, yeah, we just googled it and we saw 267 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:52.360 a Reddit thread where somebody said, oh, I used this 268 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:55.120 video of kitten's me owing and a lot of times 269 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:57.279 the cat will come out. So Bunk just started up 270 00:12:57.320 --> 00:12:59.480 and immediately came out from like it was like in 271 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:01.559 the guts of the couch, like in the living room, 272 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:03.360 and he just kind of came out. Cats. I love 273 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:04.200 whear to god. 274 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:06.679 My So Dan messaged me, He's like, are cats like 275 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:08.000 especially adept at hiding. 276 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:09.759 I was like, yeah, it's like their favorite thing to do. 277 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:12.120 I just this morning couldn't find Scarlet and we have 278 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.720 an apartment like a quarter of the size of Dan's house. Yeah, 279 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:16.840 like they find spots. They do not abide by the 280 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.360 laws of nature. But I was about to say sometimes 281 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:23.039 they do get up, like from under couches, so be 282 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.480 careful with like your mechanical reclining couches. 283 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:27.399 Yes, we decide we're not going to like put those 284 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:29.679 down unless we have like visual confirmation cat. 285 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:33.240 Yeah, yeah, because they love getting up there. He's like 286 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:35.279 Danny DeVito coming out of the couch in the Christmas 287 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:36.480 Special if it's always sunny. 288 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:39.919 Yes, Mike, are your cats? Are they all gone and 289 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:41.600 hiding right now? I haven't seen any. 290 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:44.200 Oh yeah, Daisy's definitely not jumping up the moment she 291 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:45.600 sees me talking. 292 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.039 So it's like a tail in your cameras. 293 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.759 Yeah, she she she walked across the screen during work 294 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:54.320 today and it gave me like a like a musstadache. 295 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:55.919 No, yeah, oh that's good. 296 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.200 Yeah, reminds me of Nixon. No, no, he didn't have 297 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:00.720 a mustache, did he. He would have looked nod was hot 298 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:01.519 with a mustache. 299 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:02.200 The heck. 300 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:03.120 Yeah. 301 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:05.679 Nixon was always hiding in the folds of the couch. 302 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:07.279 He was so good at it. 303 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.440 But everybody, everybody in the White House was like, don't 304 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.159 open the reclining chair unless we have eyes on Nixon. 305 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:15.559 If you play a video of a bunch of baby Nixon's, 306 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:26.039 he'll come out of hiding. Yeah. 307 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.759 Yeah, she's she Yeah, cats are Cats are weird. 308 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:34.799 Yeah, they're very different than dogs. But I like, because 309 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:35.440 you got one. 310 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:38.759 I'm amazed that you have. You have, you have two dogs. 311 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:42.679 You have a full house in my opinion of action 312 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:47.000 and animal. So the motivation to get a cat surprised 313 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:49.759 me because I never really thought of you as a 314 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:50.679 cat guy. 315 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:54.039 And Bank also did not. She didn't grow up with cats, 316 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:56.399 but she was just looking up ragged all cats. And 317 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:59.159 there's this one available that he was a former sex worker. 318 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:02.440 I think I mentioned that here who had his penis 319 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:05.480 cut off and now lives with us. So I'm still 320 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:07.639 not sure if it's penis cut off or balls cut 321 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:10.840 off or neither, but got neutered and got into LIVI 322 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:12.840 y his penis, believe it or not. He needs to 323 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:17.639 pee still, well, there'd be a hole there all right, 324 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:19.799 Like if I cut off my dick with scissors, I 325 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:23.000 could still pee, right, I have no clue. I don't know. 326 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:27.039 So because you need the muscles, the muscle this episode 327 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:30.679 of Phantom Limb, Yeah, cuts off his dick. 328 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:37.399 This is a huge giant bomb. You tear for that. 329 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:42.159 Yeah, the same medical knowledge as like a twelve year 330 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:44.440 old boy. That's like how come. It doesn't just fall 331 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:45.279 out of girls. 332 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:51.080 How babies are made? You pee? And the woman? Yeah, 333 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:53.799 I heard that. That'd be a sick Patreon page. It's 334 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:54.879 like eight dollars a month. 335 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:56.960 You get your name mentioned in the credits of each 336 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:59.799 episode twelve, you get to come to our hangouts in 337 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:00.320 this city. 338 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:05.159 Fourteen dollars. I will cut my tickoff. One person subscribe 339 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:07.799 to the fourteen dollars. Yeah, and I tell dick Off 340 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:10.440 some teenager found change in his couch and he's like, 341 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:12.039 I got it. Let me bring this up at the 342 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:15.159 next board meeting. We'll see h tell Baklar it was 343 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:17.759 my idea. He'll he'll yeah, He'll go for it. Boy, 344 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:20.360 it is. It is good we have Backlar. He is u. 345 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:23.759 He is the adult in the room. He's just like 346 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:25.919 we'll be sitting at like, you know, planning meetings and 347 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:27.960 stuff with him, and Wow, you're saying all these crazy 348 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.519 acronyms and making all these notes about stuff, and like 349 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:32.679 here I am just like they'll make a video of doom. 350 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.480 Yeah, that's exactly how I suspect those first meetings are 351 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:39.399 going where you're just like, we got to figure out 352 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:45.320 taxes and payment plans and health insurance, and San is 353 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.799 like he just like he's got like doom written down 354 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:53.120 and he's like yellow taxi go room and he's just like, 355 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:53.879 I'm booked. 356 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:57.120 Sorry, guys, I have for Fight Club. 357 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:01.399 Yes, I swear right if he had hair, it all 358 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:03.279 would have fallen out at Packs because you know, we're 359 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:06.079 keeping this all a secret and everything. And I've been 360 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:08.559 told this before, but I always forget is that my 361 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:11.839 voice carries And so we'd just be walking around the 362 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:14.720 pack show floor with lots of people that know us 363 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:17.200 in earshot, and I'd just be like like, oh, yeah, 364 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:18.759 so we're about to be in business together, like oh, 365 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:20.839 when's the sale go through? And like okay, we're gonna 366 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:22.440 announce it at this and then we say wait, bought 367 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:24.799 Giant Bomb and like he's like, dude, shut they'll stop 368 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:26.960 the fuck up. I can't tell you how many times 369 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:28.880 it's like, shut the fuck up. Yeah, look up. 370 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:31.680 I think you're a terrible secret keeper. And I also 371 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:35.400 I could not imagine, don't bring the embargos. Don't bring 372 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:36.240 up the embargos. 373 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:38.079 I think that you know, not the embargos. 374 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:42.680 I think I think Dan keeps other people's secrets secret. 375 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:45.720 Yeah, someone tells me if I've got if I've got 376 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:47.920 an exciting thing bruined, Well, here's the thing. 377 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:51.480 Walk into my apartment, Like I can see it that 378 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:53.720 he's holding something in. 379 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:56.119 Fun personal news. I'm gonna say it, but I'm not 380 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:57.519 gonna get anyone else in that water. 381 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:00.559 I think it's funny how often And you were like, 382 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:02.000 no one can know. 383 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:06.359 This, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I'm just talking loudly in 384 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:11.839 a crowd at a convention where most people know you, Hey, 385 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:13.880 but no one knew it was a surprise to everyone 386 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:15.000 get spoiled. 387 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.319 It did not get spoiled. I think it was to 388 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:20.440 be honest with you. The thing too, is like I 389 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:23.039 just think it's so unbelievable. I think you kind of 390 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:25.400 needed the press release because if you had just said 391 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:27.160 that you did it, I would have been like, shut 392 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:27.799 the fuck up. 393 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:30.599 Well, there are a bunch of like Reddit and stuff after, like, 394 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.039 you know, the stuff at the last company was you know, 395 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:36.480 clearly something was about to hit the fan, and you 396 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:37.880 would just see that stuff on Reddit like, oh, I 397 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:39.759 wonder if they bought it and they could make it independent, 398 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:41.480 And everyone was like that's not realistic. 399 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:44.119 It's just like literally, it's so impossible, and so many 400 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:45.559 people have tried to do what you're doing. 401 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:52.079 Wait, Reddit was wrong about a potential business deal stories. 402 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:55.799 I love Reddit. I never said a single bad thing. 403 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:56.279 I know. 404 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:57.839 If I'm ready, I'm not. 405 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:02.440 There's no no safety guidelines on this show. I think 406 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:04.720 they're a bunch of babies. I think they don't understand 407 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:06.799 how the world works. I don't give a fuck. 408 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:09.319 I think they're the salt of the earth and they're 409 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:14.559 placing me alive. Yes, fine, I'll find that myself. There's 410 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:16.799 like twelve annoying people on there, and the rest are 411 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:23.599 just gems. I mean, uh, Tolkodo sucks. But no, everyone 412 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:25.720 likes Mike. Mike's kind of in a bad way. 413 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:30.759 Yeah, just to clarify, because I am really pro eating ass. 414 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:32.200 But that guy does it wrong. 415 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:39.799 Yeah yeah, yeah, technique is terrible. Yeah, he's no good. Yeah, 416 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:41.119 I'm excited for you guys. 417 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.960 Sounds like it'll be it'll be uh a challenging endeavor, 418 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:46.680 but nothing worthwhile is. 419 00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:48.839 Yeah, you're in it now. You're gonna like have to 420 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:51.039 deal with a bunch of shit, But I think that 421 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:56.279 you overwhelmingly, this is gonna be so much better, not 422 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:59.599 just for you, but for people who listen to video 423 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:02.559 game content. It's also inspiring. I mean, so many of 424 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:07.599 us have been just hunkered down and weighted down by 425 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:12.240 the corporate shackles of investments and the rules and the 426 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:14.160 laws of what you can and can't say, and you're 427 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:17.359 just not beholden to that anymore. Like, now, obviously you 428 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:19.319 will have to create content, and you'll have to be 429 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:21.480 really goddamn good at it. You'll probably add a couple 430 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:25.400 more jobs to your current list, but that the pros 431 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:26.400 outweigh the cons. 432 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:28.200 Dude, Like, You're going to be so much happier. 433 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:30.559 I'm already feeling it, because it's just like you know, 434 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:32.799 with any company. I've worked for a lot of big 435 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:35.799 companies and GameStop ANDWNE and all this stuff and CBS, 436 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:39.519 and there's always going to be meetings that aren't directly 437 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:42.839 about the stuff you're making. And like, basically all of 438 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:45.039 our stuff already has just been like, Okay, what's some 439 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:46.640 cool stuff we could make? What's our plan with Like 440 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.079 obviously there's a lot of just logistical things with taking 441 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:51.799 over our company and like getting all the keys and like, okay, 442 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:53.200 well this thing's got a two factor and we got 443 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.440 to get that, and like there's just setting up accounts 444 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:57.480 and all this shit, like there are a lot of 445 00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:01.319 things going on, but we're all we're all hands on 446 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:04.240 deck on stuff. So and then also trying to plan, like, oh, 447 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:06.200 is it realistic that we can do SGF this year? 448 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.519 Like we really really want to, so trying to get 449 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:11.680 that together, and it's just but it's I'm busier than 450 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:13.359 I've ever been, but like I've just been thrilled about 451 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:15.640 all of it. Like I was on stuff all day 452 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:17.240 today and now I'm doing another one. But it's like 453 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:18.160 it's all been fun. 454 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:22.079 So do you think it will change the way you 455 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:25.839 spend money? Because when you go out, it's not really 456 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:28.440 a corporate card in the same sense anymore. It is 457 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:32.720 like literally like yeah, Ryn, that's like yours to share 458 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:33.839 with everybody else. 459 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:37.000 I love taking money from corporations, like you know when 460 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:39.799 that was when it was two Oh. If I was 461 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:42.000 traveling with the company, I would just be like I'd 462 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:44.039 first stop in town, go to a seven eleven, load 463 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:46.720 up on like thirty dollars worth of Twizzlers, like you know, 464 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:50.079 just go nuts. I've seen It's true, you have seen it, 465 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:53.559 like yes, and now it's just like even like as 466 00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:55.079 soon as they turned my cart off while I was 467 00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:57.279 at packs, it was a thing where it's like I 468 00:21:57.319 --> 00:21:59.319 looked at the uh, I looked at the menu and 469 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:01.519 it was like cocktail for twenty dollars is like I'll 470 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:03.559 do a nine dollar beer, which is still a little much, 471 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:06.160 but you know, like I, yeah, I'm not gonna willy 472 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:09.319 nilly spend money going to me and my friends. Yeah, 473 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:12.839 which is totally fine. That's yes, that's not a big 474 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:13.279 trade off. 475 00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:14.720 I love that if you were in my shoes, you 476 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:16.839 would have already felt this when you did fire Escape. 477 00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:18.440 When we do fire Escape, because this is how I 478 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:21.480 feel when I have our corporate card for like we 479 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.000 don't we don't go like it sound like you go 480 00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:25.440 to seven eleven and go balls out with like the 481 00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:26.279 fire Escape card. 482 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:27.319 Now, I've never used. 483 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:29.640 The fire it's been buying Twizzlers on the fire Escape 484 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:32.200 account for like two years. 485 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:36.119 Down Super Nibszlers, you're just the nibs, but they're super. 486 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:38.119 They're the best thing I've ever had. I'll be in 487 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:42.359 Montreal tomorrow so you get some super Nibs nips. I 488 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:44.119 don't think i've ever used the fire Escape card. I 489 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:45.119 don't think I've ever spent. 490 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:47.200 No, it's it's when we're when we're all in town 491 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:51.079 for the thing. It's like, I'm we've never actually gotten 492 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:53.519 to a point where, of course where it's like, okay, 493 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:56.279 now we'd all we should taper off, like in terms 494 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:58.759 of spending money. But I was just like I usually 495 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:00.799 am the back of art and that situation. 496 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:02.680 I say, yeah, yeah, I mean, you're the one that 497 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:04.079 knows how much we've gotten in the war chest and 498 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:07.039 stuff like that. We'll do the one. You just don't look. 499 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:10.920 I don't know how the fuck it we all have 500 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:12.640 access to do money. I'm just the one. 501 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:13.559 How does it work? 502 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:17.119 Do a bank account? Yes, you have access? You have 503 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:20.799 the card? Oh god, I should with a card. I 504 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:21.799 should have embrace. 505 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:25.559 There's gonna be the same way giant bomb. Do we 506 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:30.359 have enough money for like an inflatable giant Twizzler for 507 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:30.759 a bit? 508 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.440 And they're just like, you have access to all of this. 509 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:36.920 Huh, Like what are these? What are these? What is 510 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:39.079 this charge for three forty nine thirty times? Like, oh, 511 00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:41.319 just those are nibs we're in. 512 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:45.400 It's my monthly nibs budget. What's our nibs budget? 513 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:48.160 At this company, our CEO needs it to brainstorm. 514 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:51.720 He can't thank about them. Yeah, I although I'm gonna 515 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:53.119 lean on. Look, I got a lot of friends in 516 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:55.359 the industry. I'm gonna lean up people that can't expense things. 517 00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:59.119 And perhaps someone on this podcast was the inaugural buying 518 00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:02.839 me dinner first and then it was very nice. It's 519 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:03.960 it's Mary. 520 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:12.240 Yes, it's a business dinner. You guys stream on Twitch. Yeah, 521 00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:16.359 I think it's fine. My joy for going to conventions 522 00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:20.039 is someone who who works for a streaming site. Is 523 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:23.559 everyone I am talking to is a content creator. They're 524 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:25.960 all content creators. So it is completely justified for me 525 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:28.799 to buy someone a drink and say, how's your content going, 526 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:31.160 how can we help you? Et cetera, et cetera. Everything 527 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:34.720 can become a business conversation like that. So it is 528 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:37.039 my pleasure to be able to walk around at a 529 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:39.400 packs and and and help people and support them. And 530 00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:41.680 it was also really fun just to get you guys 531 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:47.039 at an official Twatch Twitch. I wanted to say, I 532 00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:48.920 wanted to say packs and Twitch, and. 533 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:55.559 It came out Twatch dot TV taken twat That could 534 00:24:55.599 --> 00:25:01.039 have been bad dot TV no watch. 535 00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:02.559 I don't know what happened. 536 00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:04.000 I was thinking of packs. 537 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:06.880 And that was our dinner right before we right before 538 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:10.000 the panel, So yeah, got us right right there at 539 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:10.839 the big moment. 540 00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:12.880 I got an insider look at like how you guys 541 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:15.599 worked together, which was also really nice. You guys have 542 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:17.759 a good dynamic, and I think even though you are 543 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:20.279 silly and stuff on videos, I think you respect each 544 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:20.799 other a lot. 545 00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:22.079 And it was pretty obvious at. 546 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:25.039 That dinner that I think you guys are a really 547 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:27.799 good group. I think you care about each other and 548 00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:30.640 you're you're all very passionate about making this work. And 549 00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:33.440 so it was kind of fun getting that behind the 550 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:36.160 scenes view of you guys. And I also really appreciate 551 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:39.359 you giving me credit for taking the photo yep on 552 00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:43.799 the on what you called the grassy knol. 553 00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:46.720 The grassy knole covered in rabbit shit. That's it was 554 00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:48.559 the first official announcement of us as a group. 555 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:50.599 So much shit on that grassynol. 556 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:54.640 And then we ate nine hundred pounds of meat we 557 00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:55.960 went and announced our futures. 558 00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:58.319 Yeah, you need a lot of meat when you're under 559 00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:01.880 high stress. I learned that from Glengarry Glenn Ross. Just 560 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:06.440 you know, yeah, lots of protein get those rookie numbers up, 561 00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:06.799 you know. 562 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:12.200 Uh, Sell, I'm surprised too, because, like I used to 563 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:14.519 like pax panels and stuff, any kind of public speaking 564 00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:16.920 would be like a number one anxiety trigger. Like I 565 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:19.319 would worry for months before I did one. And I 566 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:20.960 don't know what happened in the last year or so. 567 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:24.000 Actually I started the medication that might be it about 568 00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:26.559 a year ago. But I mean that explains it directly. 569 00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:29.319 I have on and off over the years. But I 570 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.880 started a telegram last summer. Since then, it's it's a selexa. 571 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:35.160 It's just the generator. 572 00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:37.200 I don't know what that is. 573 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.759 Yeah, that's a necessry. I'm gonna like a low dose 574 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:44.119 of it. And like I just I. 575 00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:48.200 Don't know, I don't it's an anti depressed, anti anxiety 576 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:48.599 kind of. 577 00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:51.240 Yeah, okay, yeah, sorry, I don't know. 578 00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:57.680 Oh, very's fine in the heads only Dan and I 579 00:26:57.720 --> 00:26:58.960 need to take pills. 580 00:26:59.000 --> 00:26:59.279 Sorry. 581 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:01.240 Owner typical, well. 582 00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:06.880 Typical cool. How's your cookie cutter life going, Marry? How's 583 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:09.839 your pussy? Nice? 584 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:13.960 That's how I get my stress out. I hurl a 585 00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:15.680 twelve pound bowling ball at piece. 586 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.039 That's just my therapy. Is you crushed some man his head? 587 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:23.400 But yeah, I like before the panels. Now I'm just 588 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.839 like completely calm. I like fly to and from Tokyo 589 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.079 twice in the last six months, stone cold, sober, no 590 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:32.000 real issues, Like it's a it's the moments like that 591 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:33.599 that I really realized it. Like, Oh, I think I'm 592 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:35.160 in a pretty good spot with that stuff now. 593 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:39.839 Yeah, growing, I think you're developing as a person. You've 594 00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:41.640 already written a lot of stuff on anxiety, so I 595 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:43.440 feel like you understand it well. But I think, like, 596 00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:46.920 what's so crazy is like, remember that story I told 597 00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.400 you guys about the Minecraft stream and like how stressful 598 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:51.079 that was. And I was like dealing with like five 599 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:55.160 different people who wanted completely different streams, plus the beautiful 600 00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:57.079 Jack Black and like all these different things, plus the 601 00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:59.359 problems of a live stream, and I was so fucking 602 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.319 stressed that when I went home that night and I 603 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.880 went to sleep, I thought to myself, like, man, this 604 00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:06.519 is going to make whatever stream I. 605 00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.720 Do next a fucking cake walk. 606 00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:11.400 And I just think you've been through so much, You've 607 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.799 just you've tempered yourself in so much shit that a 608 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.079 regular stressful day is really not as big of a 609 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:19.039 deal as it used to be. 610 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:21.519 That stuff really does help, like when you just kind 611 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.240 of raise the stakes on that because like I remember 612 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:25.359 when I was about to take the job at W 613 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:27.400 DOWE and this was back in a very different era 614 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.079 of w DOE. I called up Xavier Woods and I 615 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:32.039 asked him like, Hey, what am I walking into with 616 00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.319 this kind of job, And he goes, Yeah, this company 617 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.319 is going to grind you into dust in a way 618 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:40.599 where you were working like crazy and you were going 619 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:42.880 to be stressed, and it's going to like you're going 620 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.000 to have really really rough days, but you're going to 621 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.759 come out the other side ready for anything. And it 622 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.160 really was true. You know. I was there for a 623 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:50.680 few years and I came back out and I feel 624 00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:53.119 like I was just prepared for so much more in 625 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:56.400 terms of production and high stress environments and stuff like that. 626 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.200 So yeah, yeah, there's something to be said for that stuff. 627 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:04.640 It's like Quibbi. It's like Quibbi. I E were talking 628 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:06.519 to you during Quibbi that was that. 629 00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:08.680 Was a wild time for you. I think you handled 630 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.240 that with a lot of grace maybe. 631 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.039 For maybe to you, but yeah, in the quiet moments 632 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.000 of the night, I did I don't know what talking about, 633 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:18.240 but yeah, it was it was. 634 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:20.640 It was also Covid. I think it felt normal to 635 00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:23.599 work that much the time. Business strategy of Quibby was 636 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:25.599 very good. I think everyone agrees. 637 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.279 The time it wouldn't have been good if it wasn't 638 00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.519 for COVID, and COVID definitely hurt because no one was 639 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.640 commuting anymore, which is the only hope and a prayer. 640 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.440 That they had. I should say no at all, I 641 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:38.839 will never be like. 642 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:41.400 Love that pandemic. 643 00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:49.160 But there was there was no Yeah, there was no 644 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.200 It was no better time to work at a streaming 645 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:54.480 company than that moment. 646 00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:56.720 Yeah, it probably was pretty good, Yeah it was. 647 00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.680 It was crazy like everybody was staying home and obviously 648 00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:04.920 find entertainment and socialization at their computer, and so our 649 00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:10.160 our streaming numbers really skyrocketed during that time, and everybody 650 00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:15.039 was like all right, aw yayh that's like the bummer. 651 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:17.440 But I mean it was a crazy time to be 652 00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:21.079 at Twitch because it was just like it felt unstoppable 653 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:22.240 during those moments. 654 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:24.599 That's that's when I started streaming on Twitch. I never 655 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.720 did a single like I guess I did the like 656 00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:28.599 one and then PlayStation four where you could do it 657 00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:30.960 from the box, but I never used OBS or anything before. 658 00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:33.039 And yeah, Mike told me like, yeah, you should talk 659 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:34.920 to Mary. They got really good tools for showing me 660 00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:36.480 how much money you can make. And I was like, 661 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.759 oh money, you say. And then I talked to Mary 662 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:41.079 and she told me how to set up stream labs. 663 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:42.799 Told you how monetization works. 664 00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:44.559 Yeah, yeah, and I was like, I think I like 665 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:46.079 this and then I just went nuts with it. 666 00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:48.920 But it's cool though, because before you actually had like 667 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.160 never touched streaming software at all, and you were like 668 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:53.519 kind of like, that's not my thing. 669 00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:54.680 I play the games. 670 00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:56.920 You guys helped put the stream together, but you were 671 00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.599 learning obs, you were learning alerts. You had. Actually, when 672 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.799 we do our Game of the Year streams, usually you 673 00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:05.519 are the one who technically sets it up. And it 674 00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:11.519 is quite technical. It's like four cameras, multiple sorry, multiple mics, 675 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:12.880 multiple camera setups. 676 00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:15.160 I mean it's a big ordeal that. 677 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.000 You put it all together, unique alerts and everything, and 678 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:19.559 you've figured it out. 679 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:23.720 Well. I think it's intimidating at first, because no, we 680 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:27.279 need just kidding. I think it helped that, Like, you know, 681 00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:29.519 I did have a video production background and like editing 682 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:31.599 and shooting and stuff like that, so, like just knowing 683 00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:34.759 the general language helps, but like streaming and OBS is 684 00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.000 a different thing. But like OBS is kind of awesome. 685 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.880 I like it. It's got it spinicky stuff. But wait, 686 00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:43.079 you can do a lot with OBS. So yeah, yeah, yeah, 687 00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:44.920 but no credit. Both of you was getting me into it. 688 00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.799 But that was during the pandemic. That was like April 689 00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:48.079 twenty twenty. I started doing that. 690 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.319 Yeah, you weren't alone. It was a lot of people 691 00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.400 and it was a crazy time. But I saw like 692 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:54.279 a lot of people like really freaking out, and I 693 00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:56.799 was the only one that was like, I feel good. 694 00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.599 I feel completely fine. Little did I know that company's 695 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.640 going to company. But I still have enjoyed my ride 696 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.519 where I am and it's been like really fascinating to 697 00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:12.240 observe just the culture of people talking about games evolve 698 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.640 over the last decade. It's changed quite significantly. But something 699 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:18.680 I really I have felt for as long as I 700 00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:23.400 can is that it's just best to support private people, 701 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:27.519 private companies if you can stay local. That's why I've 702 00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.680 always been like, awesome next Landers doing their own thing. 703 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:36.279 Support next Lander, you know, find people that make stuff 704 00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:39.000 that you love and support them directly and do it 705 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.000 the best way that you can that works for them 706 00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:44.599 and allows them to live their life making awesome content 707 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.440 that you love. I think that's the way to go, 708 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.119 and I think that will continue to be the trend. 709 00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:51.799 I think there was a real flashpoint for that a 710 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:53.960 couple of weeks ago. Obviously what happened to us happened, 711 00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.839 and then Polygon was it was just a masker there 712 00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:57.119 like that. 713 00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:58.640 That must have been hard for you. 714 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.839 Yeah, I mean it was hard to see for sure. 715 00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:06.559 I reached out to a bunch of people, especially going 716 00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.000 to fucking veil net like vox Media, selling them to 717 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.599 like I. You know, I'm sure there's good people working 718 00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:13.960 a screen rat and game rant, but I can't recall 719 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.240 two sites that made me want to throw my phone 720 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.200 more than those two in terms of clickbait and add servable. 721 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:24.519 Aside from fandom, well, I personally, I Mike Maharty personally 722 00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:26.559 do not like fandom and never have because of how 723 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.279 many ads they serve up on you scroll an inch 724 00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:31.279 and all I'm trying to fucking find out where this 725 00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:35.440 last uh core ox seed is and now all of 726 00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.599 a sudden, I'm getting an ad for porn Hub or something. 727 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.039 But like, no. 728 00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:45.359 From porn Hub that my experience there and opinions about 729 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:49.920 Fantom do not represent the rest of the cast. But yeah, 730 00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:51.920 the sites that vel net owns are close second to 731 00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:53.799 ones I really fucking hate using. 732 00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.440 So uh yeah, I feel for Polygon for sure. 733 00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.160 I still like have that muscle memory of going to 734 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.359 type in like pol and then I was like, oh fuck, 735 00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:04.119 I don't. I mean, there's still some good people doing 736 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.200 There's still some good people there for sure, but they're 737 00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.119 not going to be allowed to do the really cool 738 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:09.000 stuff that they want to do. 739 00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:10.079 Uh. 740 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:14.039 From what I understand of the the deal, the restructure. 741 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.840 Tackled down by corporate ding dongs once again, and you 742 00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:21.039 have a you have truly escaped like such a wild place, Dan, 743 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:24.079 I mean, it just seems crazy, especially considering how little 744 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:25.400 you did to help. 745 00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:31.000 To help, uh in what circumstance. 746 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.920 I think backlar and grubbed in a lot of the 747 00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:36.800 heavy lifting. 748 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:44.880 It's all say, I did some good stuff that behind 749 00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.639 the scenes. Maybe don't know about all the good stuff 750 00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:52.360 I do behind the scenes about it. But the pulling together, Look, 751 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.199 I know people, I maybe pulling together some sponsorships. It 752 00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:57.519 might be person certain. 753 00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:02.719 Stuff anti corporation suddenly wants to corporate sponsorship. 754 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.360 No, I will totally I will take the corporate money 755 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.679 all day. I will absolutely do that. I got Twizzler's 756 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:13.039 nips to buy. 757 00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:13.039 Nips should sponsor you. 758 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.519 Guys, Mister hand super naps. 759 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.039 He thinks he's helping. 760 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.320 I will take so much money from corporation. 761 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.880 Back Alard Grub, We're probably like covered in sweat and 762 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.400 room like looking at a computer. And Dan was like 763 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.480 looking out the window with a Twizzler in his mouth 764 00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:33.880 and was like, is it happening or not? 765 00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:39.760 When do we own it? Hurry up, guys, that was 766 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:43.480 taking something. The lawyers take so long. Don't hurry give 767 00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:46.679 them money and then get it. And Simard. 768 00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:50.519 Dan Dance a guy who watches like a football games, 769 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.280 like just run into the end zone and get more 770 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:53.039 points the other team. 771 00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:54.199 It's fucking ship. 772 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:56.440 Catch the ball, throw it. 773 00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:01.800 Run that way. Go the guy who's an integral cog 774 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:04.760 in the machine, you. 775 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:08.119 Were You're a backup cog in case one of the 776 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:11.079 main cogs breaks. 777 00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:14.519 Just to corporate Marionette, we they can't work without content 778 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:18.920 and you need someone to chiefly officer it. Meet the 779 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:20.559 new Meet the new CEO. 780 00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:25.199 Same as the old CCO, ready to see, ready to 781 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.119 ready to ready to sill out as long as you 782 00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:29.519 give him beers and nibs. 783 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.159 Oh yeah, will work for nibs. 784 00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:35.440 Yes, and six foot long subs. 785 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.800 And you can just hand people in a hotel lobby. 786 00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:41.039 You can see more of that shit. Yeah, I'm waiting 787 00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:43.039 to see what you come up with next. Dude, No, 788 00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.800 that sounds expensive. You can't do that. Six foot longs 789 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.480 after like forty bucks six fts. Oh my god, they 790 00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.000 were like one hundred and fifty each. Oh god, we 791 00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.920 spent over one thousand dollars on subs, Miss Jo. 792 00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:58.960 Suddenly mister Corporate's missing his sandwich artisan slopping him together 793 00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:00.280 along its. 794 00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:04.079 Six foot sub money coming from you guys. Stop it, 795 00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:05.840 stop it with these six foot subs. 796 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:09.400 We're scrappy now. I can't be buying six foot subs. 797 00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.679 Corporate America's got its hand in everybody's pockets, even the 798 00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:18.320 White Night Dan Riker. It's the same old song, same lyrics, 799 00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:21.519 just a different melody. 800 00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:23.280 I don't even know what you're saying about. 801 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:29.280 Yeah, the game is the same, but the plan is different. 802 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:30.760 The players are the same. 803 00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:35.719 I think I'm starting to like this guy, I said, 804 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.760 that recently, like in like in the actual context, and 805 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:39.480 it felt great. 806 00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:46.800 Oh yeah, I still hate you. Oh my god, you're 807 00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:54.199 wearing a bullet professor. It's awesome, all right. Uh, you 808 00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:55.440 guys wanna talk about video games? 809 00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:55.719 Yes? 810 00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.559 Yeah, okay, we believe it or not. 811 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:03.320 I've not all been on the same episode since Blue 812 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:05.599 Prince's review Embargo went out. 813 00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:09.639 That is so wild, so nineteen ninety seven. 814 00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:12.239 Yeah, it feels like it. Wow, And we've all been 815 00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.360 playing it in our own world and at no point 816 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.039 have we ever had the time to just sit and 817 00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:19.599 talk to each other playing. And we're also I think 818 00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.079 at completely different levels. Like well, when I when I 819 00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:24.760 talk to you about it, you really hadn't played it. 820 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:26.760 You'd have only played like a couple days. 821 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:27.920 Yeah, I had. 822 00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.800 I told you in college that I really it was 823 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.679 not grabbing me. I think I expected to grab me 824 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.000 right away. Yes, but I have since played more. I 825 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:38.760 want to say, I'm still only like day twenty or twenty. 826 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:43.199 I'm in the twenties somewhere. However, it has definitely started 827 00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.360 to I've had that like those Eureka moments where I 828 00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.800 kind of see the bigger picture and the game has 829 00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.079 not been out super super long, so I don't want 830 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:54.559 to spoil stuff. We talked about this before, and I 831 00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:56.239 also don't want you got to spoil stuff thing because 832 00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:56.920 you're both much. 833 00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:57.360 Farther than I am. 834 00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.440 But there are those moments where Mary, you mentioned the 835 00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:04.360 Witness as a comparison on last episode, and I get 836 00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:07.039 that now. It's like, oh, I didn't even realize that 837 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:11.440 this part of the game was a bigger picture puzzle 838 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:14.920 and seeing how that fits together. Also, the farther you 839 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:16.840 get in, the more you're actually having to worry about 840 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.519 your foots, your steps, your energy. You're learning what different 841 00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:25.920 items how they function. You are finding rooms with a 842 00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:28.639 computer or with like a little note that seems innocuous 843 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:31.000 until like six days later when you're like, oh, right, 844 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.480 I did write that down in my notebook. I'm starting 845 00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.480 to see the actual Rogue Light elements where I'm getting 846 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:40.119 permanent upgrades, which feels awesome because now I start with 847 00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:42.639 X or Y as opposed to just starting from scratch. 848 00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.559 I'm finding new room types every run that I didn't 849 00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:51.559 know existed. I'm starting to learn how to balance. Okay, 850 00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:53.840 so I can have this experiment running from the laboratory, 851 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.599 which will help me buff or help me toward this 852 00:39:56.679 --> 00:40:00.119 goal with the commissary if I get a commissary, so 853 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:03.239 like they this thing says on these days, I'll get 854 00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:07.920 a discount. However, it's a lie because this other note 855 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.239 told me that these memos are not to be trusted. 856 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:12.639 That's an interesting but the dark Board. 857 00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.039 Puzzle, Like I figured out the dark Board puzzle by myself, 858 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:16.880 but it took me a bit, but then I found 859 00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:20.960 a note about it later. The there's some like resident 860 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.840 evil level puzzles going on with like the fuse box. 861 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.119 When I finally did the fuse box kind of stuff 862 00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.079 like have you the pump room no? 863 00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:30.760 Yea yeah yeah, hyeah. 864 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.639 Yeah, fucking pump room pisses me off. That's like the 865 00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:36.920 only one where I like really struggled with it because 866 00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:40.719 it did not I like don't understand like how some 867 00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:44.239 tubes don't want to go up or down, And that 868 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.119 one was frustrating for me. But it was really fun 869 00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:54.519 the very first time I drained the fountain, and I 870 00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:57.440 was just like, that's such an eye opener to be 871 00:40:57.480 --> 00:40:59.760 able to do stuff like that. And so it's been 872 00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:05.039 really have you, Mike, have you been able to get 873 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:10.639 to the garage or have you had luck with the garage? 874 00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:12.280 Trying to figure out how to say. 875 00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:14.079 This, I'm trying to say this in a delicate way. 876 00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:15.480 You don't know what's going. 877 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:17.280 The game is bigger than I thought it was, and 878 00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:20.880 I have discovered some other stuff going on, And there's 879 00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:23.480 stuff like in the distance through windows and like hah, 880 00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:25.599 that seems like it might be a thing later. But 881 00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:27.880 then there's also stuff where it's like why would I 882 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.159 want to set up an experiment? And I don't actually 883 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:32.039 know this not being coy, I'm still figuring out why 884 00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.559 this would be beneficial. But the experiments say like okay, 885 00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:38.239 if this then that if you choose a green room, 886 00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:41.480 then we'll split spread dirt over the driveway, Like what 887 00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:42.800 the why would what? 888 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:43.400 Why would you? 889 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.000 Yeah, So like there's still like quite a lot of 890 00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:51.800 mystery going on. I discovered the sprint, Like everybody's gone 891 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:52.320 to the rapture. 892 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.559 I didn't know the sprinting so funny. It's not like 893 00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:59.159 a super no, but it's still I don't not use 894 00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:01.400 it though, like all the time. Yeah. 895 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:05.159 Yeah, But there's there's also like really tense moments too 896 00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:10.079 where I find terminal or something that's like oh fuck, 897 00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:13.159 I missed a key somewhere. I don't know where it was, 898 00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:14.519 and I don't have the metal detectors, So now I 899 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.400 need to go through every room with a fine tooth comb. 900 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:18.639 But I need to backtrack quite a bit. 901 00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:21.760 I have the sneakers, so I'm saving one footstep every 902 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.599 few rooms. Yep, uh oh right, there's a bedroom that 903 00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:27.400 along that path, so I should go through the bedroom. 904 00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.400 But then I'm getting toward I think it's in this room, 905 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:31.800 and I'm almost running out of steps, so and then 906 00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:33.559 it gets tense, like are the sneakers going to work 907 00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:35.320 before I get to that room, which then has the key, 908 00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:38.079 which then I can, you know, hopefully make my way back. 909 00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:41.559 There's stuff like that where the different layers of the 910 00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:44.119 game are starting to coalesce in a way that it 911 00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.320 seems way more compelling than I initially thought it was. 912 00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.440 So yeah, I would keep unfolding and unfolding, and like 913 00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:52.079 it's the point where it's like I did stop at 914 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.159 a certain point, but you know, I played sixty hours, 915 00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:57.760 seventy hours something like that, and I could still see that, like, 916 00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:00.840 oh boy, there is way more I could do if 917 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:02.760 I want to dive all the way in like I 918 00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:04.719 feel like there must have been thirty percent of the 919 00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:08.280 game left, but I did stop playing just because it's 920 00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:12.519 like it would require a crazy amount of further investment, 921 00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.079 you know, Like it's not that I wasn't enjoying it anymore, 922 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:16.880 it's just like I do need to play something besides 923 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:17.840 this game at this point, you. 924 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:21.280 Know, I understand. I think I'm also there. So I 925 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:25.039 had the flight to Boston for packs, and so I 926 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:28.000 had five hours to kill both ways, and I played 927 00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:32.079 a good amount of Blueprints again just to see, like 928 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:34.920 what the late game has to offer. I'm still trying 929 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:39.039 to figure out. There's like a power room that gives 930 00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:41.639 you like is it a boiler room, but it gives 931 00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.719 you power and you can route to another room. Yes, 932 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:48.880 really interesting ways. My problem now is that I have 933 00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:52.320 a goal in mind, but because of the RNG nature 934 00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:56.119 of this game, I am constantly derailed or like pivoted, 935 00:43:56.840 --> 00:44:00.280 and I try and say with a good attitude the 936 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:03.400 best of every day, like don't let it bother you, 937 00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:06.119 but it fucking does. Because I do know what I 938 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:07.760 want to do, and if I just don't get the 939 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:09.719 layout the way I want it, then I just fucking 940 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:10.840 ruined the whole day. 941 00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.119 Do you can you say without it being too spoilery, 942 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:14.320 what the thing is you're trying to do. 943 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.480 I'm trying to power the science room. 944 00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.360 Okay, that one took me. That was frustrating for me too, 945 00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.679 because like you specifically need like and there are things 946 00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:26.159 you can do where it's like, oh, if I do 947 00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:28.800 this thing, it'll make it so mechanical rooms pop up 948 00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:31.239 more often and things like that, but like there's nobody's 949 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.159 like guarantee it still beholden. 950 00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:34.960 The only thing that's like happened to me that's been 951 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.119 really beneficial is I've like now I'm consistently getting those 952 00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:40.760 reroll dye and like that gives me better odds, but 953 00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:44.400 even still I'm screwed all the time. I've also been 954 00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:47.599 trying to get all of the classrooms, and I almost 955 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.519 always around, like cause I think I think there's eight 956 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:54.440 classrooms and around four or five. I just they just 957 00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:58.000 stop giving them to me, which I think is bullshit. Obviously, 958 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.719 if I am going for the classroom run and I've 959 00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.159 opened five classrooms, the game knows that I'm going for 960 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:08.760 a classroom run, and it keeps giving me fucking hallways 961 00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:10.480 and a part of me just wants to be like, 962 00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:12.679 you know exactly, this is an orange. You guys are 963 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.320 fucking me intentionally because you you want me to keep 964 00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.039 doing this and try and get more classrooms, Like give 965 00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:19.199 me the fucking class If. 966 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:21.800 You're trying to do the eight classrooms thing, are you 967 00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:25.440 doing the thing that bitch? There is something that you 968 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:29.360 can do that really helps with that. I mean, you would. 969 00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.239 This is not like a crazy spoiler. I don't think, No, don't, 970 00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:32.519 I don't. 971 00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:34.360 I don't even know about the classroom thing, so don't 972 00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:36.880 for a second take care. But I also think it 973 00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:38.599 might be a spoiler for people listening because there's a 974 00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:40.159 lot of room types I don't even know about that. 975 00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:40.599 It's a spoil. 976 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:43.480 Take off your head. 977 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.360 And if you need to listener the shelter, there's a 978 00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:49.039 thing you can do if you somebody if it's like 979 00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:51.800 a classroom adjacent thing, and it adds like eight classrooms 980 00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:56.400 to deck. So don't even try for the classroom thing 981 00:45:56.440 --> 00:46:02.159 unless you do the shelter first. Fine, we told the 982 00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:04.719 listeners the mute as well. I guess I just. 983 00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:06.559 Don't know what I don't know. And this reminds me 984 00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:08.639 of animal Well, which seems like a weird game to 985 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:10.840 compare this too, but Animal Well was also the same 986 00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:12.920 where it was like, we're not going to tell you shit, 987 00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:15.639 figure it out. And there were times in Animal Well 988 00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.599 where I was like, I can't believe that the disc 989 00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:22.159 is rideable and that this is like a travel thing 990 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:24.480 and like the yo yo is so it does does 991 00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:27.440 all these other things. That is really fun to become 992 00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.760 aware of it. It's also insanely frustrating to play a 993 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:33.960 game for thirty hours and be like, oh my god, 994 00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:36.320 this was something that I could have done the whole time, 995 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:39.320 the whole time, the whole time, the whole time. It 996 00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:41.360 just irks me a little bit, and I just think 997 00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:45.679 that is it is not a bad thing for the way. 998 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:46.320 This game was designed. 999 00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:47.800 I think what I'm trying to say is like it 1000 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.440 is intentional what they have done, and I think they've 1001 00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.480 made an intentionally great game, But I think you have 1002 00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:57.000 to have extraordinary patience, and I don't always have the 1003 00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.920 patience that this game requires. So it's not a game problem, 1004 00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:02.320 it's a me problem. But I've gotten to the point 1005 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:04.360 now where I also don't know if I'm going to 1006 00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:06.360 play it anymore because I'm running out of patience with 1007 00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:09.920 like not getting the run I want or getting getting 1008 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:11.880 something in my way when I know what I'm trying 1009 00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:12.199 to do. 1010 00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:16.039 Yeah, yeah, like I still know anyone for everyone I 1011 00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.440 know that loves this game, and it's most people that 1012 00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:20.760 have played it that I know. I don't know anyone 1013 00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:23.199 that's been like, yep, did all this stuff? Like, I 1014 00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:25.400 think there is going to be that point for everyone, 1015 00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:27.000 regardless of how much you like it. 1016 00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:31.079 Yeah, it's like with something like Haites or Dead Cells, 1017 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.599 the action oriented games, those are easier to forgive when 1018 00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:35.519 things aren't going your way because the moment to moment 1019 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:39.360 gameplay is still so like enticing and fast paced, whereas 1020 00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:41.800 this is like a literal can be a like plotting 1021 00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:43.840 pace through the mansion that you're building. 1022 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:48.559 Yeah, I think it's RNG is great, and I think 1023 00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:51.480 the game is expertly designed, so it's not it's not 1024 00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:53.119 a ding on the game. It's just more of like, 1025 00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:56.360 am I in the mood to try for something and 1026 00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:58.400 never have it happened to me after six hours? 1027 00:47:58.519 --> 00:47:59.920 That is something you have to be in the mood for. 1028 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.079 And I would almost even also say like that's compar 1029 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.320 Oh my god, I can't speak today. Comparable to Blatro. 1030 00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.559 I tried to say, compare in Bolotro, and I said 1031 00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:12.440 compar whereas like, you can have an excellent run in Blatro, 1032 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:16.199 but if you get a blind that's a real motherfucker. 1033 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:17.480 Your run's over. 1034 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:19.800 Like yeah, and once you go further in it too, 1035 00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:21.280 like you know, Bank was trying to get all the 1036 00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:24.400 gold steaks and then oh yeah, like and at that point, 1037 00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:27.360 like she says, she knows within a couple like anties 1038 00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:29.119 that like, Okay, this is not gonna be the run. 1039 00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.239 You have to like be perfect from the beginning, you know. 1040 00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:32.239 Yeah, that's true. 1041 00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:34.719 So it's that's why I say that, because I think 1042 00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:37.280 Blatro is brilliant. I think it's like perfectly sculpted, but 1043 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.480 it will frustrate you if you were if you think 1044 00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:41.920 you're in a good way, the game RNG will get you. 1045 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:46.199 Yep. Well it's probably a good segue because Doom the Dark 1046 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:51.559 Age seems very similar to Blueprints, like similar the same. Yeah, 1047 00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.440 once you get once you get the gun that crushes 1048 00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:56.679 up all the skulls and blueprints, it really a lot 1049 00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:57.920 of stuff that's. 1050 00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.480 A real game changer. Yeah, take that, Rampa. 1051 00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:04.800 Yeah, the shield saw once it's up greater than Blueprints 1052 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:06.480 is fucking sweet. This is Babbage. 1053 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:08.800 The boss fight is pretty pretty gnarly. It can be 1054 00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:11.239 pretty How's dark ages? 1055 00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:15.320 You played it like itking it? Yeah? 1056 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.599 With that shield dash Mary, that is that feat every time? 1057 00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:22.960 It's crazy like they they knew the juice that it 1058 00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.519 was gonna make me freak out. I I literally I 1059 00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:27.719 tweeted this and I and I mean it. In the 1060 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:31.480 first three chapters, I said fuck yeah a dozen times. 1061 00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:34.280 I said it out loud. And it's it's not just 1062 00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.480 the mechanics that they really nailed. It's the environment and 1063 00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.039 the feeling that they want the player to have. They 1064 00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:40.760 nailed it. 1065 00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:41.960 They knew that. 1066 00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:44.440 When you were at the top of like, uh, like 1067 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.920 a hill and you're about to drop down, you know 1068 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:48.400 that there's gonna be a bunch of ship that's gonna 1069 00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:52.000 hit the fan. And as soon as you're dropping, they 1070 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.559 just increase and pump the metal music like crazy, so 1071 00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:00.000 that you feel the rush of murdering and destroying demons 1072 00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:01.559 with your bare fucking hands. 1073 00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:02.719 It feels fucking good. 1074 00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:05.880 And then on top of that, the evolution of this 1075 00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:07.960 game is really interesting too, where they were like, we're 1076 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:11.880 gonna put crazy shit in the background, like giant mech 1077 00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:15.760 looking devils, like huge beings in the background and they're 1078 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:18.840 competing and fighting with each other, And was so sick. 1079 00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:20.199 I couldn't believe it. 1080 00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:21.440 When I was like in the middle of a fight 1081 00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.559 and I look in the background and there's like two 1082 00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:27.920 giant beasts like killing each other in the background, stomping 1083 00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.360 on little players my size in the back. 1084 00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:33.320 It was awesome, like I they nailed it. 1085 00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:35.159 Or when it's like it puts you in the uh. 1086 00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.840 It was at the Atlan the mech and you are 1087 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:41.079 suddenly like Kaiju size, and there's just bridges of like 1088 00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:43.239 tons of enemies that if you were dude size then 1089 00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.519 they would be terrible. But you're just walking through it, 1090 00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.239 and you get that super gun that gets like super 1091 00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:49.400 charge if you get a perfect dodge, and you're just 1092 00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:53.360 monsters that you're shooting with this turret basically, and chunks 1093 00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:56.199 of meat are just flying off whatever part you're shooting. 1094 00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:58.400 You're shooting their left thigh. All of the meat is 1095 00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:01.199 just getting off of it. 1096 00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:05.840 It isster It's so satisfying. And they have the death 1097 00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.679 animations just like the previous one. 1098 00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:10.199 So if you liked the last Doom. 1099 00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:12.760 They do that thing where like if they're purple or 1100 00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:14.960 if they're like shiny, a certain way you can hit 1101 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:16.719 a finish your button and then that they play a 1102 00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:19.800 finishing animation and the finishing animations and doom or exactly 1103 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.639 as you would expect. They open up the mouth, they 1104 00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.599 vomit into their throats, and then they rip them apart, 1105 00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:28.880 like it's gross, it's fucking cool. It looks so sick. 1106 00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:32.000 They they knew their audience, they knew exactly what they 1107 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:34.280 were going for, and they went for it on this one. 1108 00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:36.440 Like it is just it's just everything that you want. 1109 00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:37.840 I do have a couple of gripes with it, but 1110 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.960 I'm loving it and I and I am really looking 1111 00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.440 forward to playing more. And I've also enjoyed the upgrade system, 1112 00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:46.280 which Dan you were talking about, like upgrading your shield 1113 00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:49.719 so you can have like more dashes. I've upgraded certain 1114 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.519 guns that they have, like flame bullets and things like that. 1115 00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:54.519 It's been fun well and it's smart too that like 1116 00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:57.199 you know, it's got the radio weaponmanu, and it just 1117 00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.519 kind of puts like, okay, here's like the energy weapons here. 1118 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.039 So you've got to couple like blue kind of plasma 1119 00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:03.679 weapons and you can just hit X on the fly 1120 00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:05.960 to like it almost feels like an alternate buyer, even 1121 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:07.920 if it's a different yeam. So it's like the shotgun. 1122 00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.000 You hit X, it turns into the super shotgun and 1123 00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:12.760 it doesn't get overwhelming the way that Doom Maternal did. 1124 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.880 It's like Doom Maternal, like, you know, the first couple hours, 1125 00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:18.039 it's oh, cool, cool, cool, but then it like kept 1126 00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:19.880 adding stuff and kept adding stuff, and it's like, well, 1127 00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:21.480 if this thing, you can do it this way or this, 1128 00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:25.440 Like it just it got a little bogged down. You know. 1129 00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:27.639 You get the flame thrower, and then like they kept 1130 00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.719 adding stuff on top of that, and it's like I 1131 00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:33.000 feel like I have to think too, Like I only 1132 00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:35.480 want to think a certain amount in a doom game. 1133 00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.639 You know, Yeah, you've. 1134 00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:39.400 Already got a hammer. You don't need six more ways 1135 00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:40.679 to hit a nail into something. 1136 00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:42.360 Yeah, that's the good way to put it. Where It's 1137 00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:43.880 like I want enough stuff to where I feel like 1138 00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:45.400 I can switch between a bunch of weapons on the 1139 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:47.440 fly and kill a whole arena full of bad guys. 1140 00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:50.199 But I don't want to constantly be having to think 1141 00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:51.679 of like, Okay, I should do this now and I'll 1142 00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:53.760 switch to this, but then like it's it got to 1143 00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:55.519 be a little overwhelming an Eternal, I think they have 1144 00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:56.920 found a sweet spot in this one. 1145 00:52:57.079 --> 00:52:59.000 I think so too. I think they also opened it up. 1146 00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:00.800 Some of my problems with The Eternal was that they 1147 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:03.519 would put you in these pretty thin corridors where you 1148 00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:06.760 would have to face these shield enemies from a very 1149 00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:10.800 specific direction, the front, and that's really annoying because it 1150 00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:13.519 means you had to approach them in a very specific way. 1151 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:16.159 You had to be able to parry and then shoot 1152 00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:18.440 them to get rid of the shield. It's fine, that's 1153 00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:21.239 what they were teaching you, but it's very limiting. This 1154 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.760 game is kind of more sandboxy that when you fall, 1155 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:27.159 they usually drop you in a very open environment, So 1156 00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:31.719 if you want to sprint around and grab them from 1157 00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:34.719 behind and kill them, you can do that. If you 1158 00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.199 want to do what Dan was saying, there's this like 1159 00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:41.119 awesome shield thing where you'd like dash shield into someone 1160 00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:43.760 and they essentially explode. When you do that, you just 1161 00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:47.159 run around exploding people and that's very satisfying. 1162 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:49.360 So I can just play it my way this time. 1163 00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:51.360 Yeah, And it's like groups. So like you'll go into 1164 00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.800 a group with a shield dash and that'll decimate everyone 1165 00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.159 in a certain radius. So fine. And then there are 1166 00:53:56.159 --> 00:53:58.760 these guys that have different shields that they have shields 1167 00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:00.960 where it's like, okay, if they have an energy shield, 1168 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:02.960 if I use an energy weapon on that blue thing 1169 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:04.880 and you can see it from far away, you can 1170 00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:07.599 shoot it and that'll explode everyone near them. Or if 1171 00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.840 people have metal shields, whether that's like body armor or 1172 00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:13.639 holding it, if you shoot it with enough bullets, it'll 1173 00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:16.039 heat up and you'll see it get like bright red, 1174 00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:19.000 and then you throw your shield saw at it and 1175 00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:21.800 it explodes cloths. So yeah, if you want to like 1176 00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:23.639 be an idiot, you can try to take them all out, 1177 00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:25.559 you know, with just whatever gun you've got, or you 1178 00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.639 can just kill them this huge fell swoop with the 1179 00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:28.159 right weapon. 1180 00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:31.599 Yeah, I've been not thinking it through. I've been doing 1181 00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:33.639 the opposite of probably what the game has been trying 1182 00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:34.400 to get me to learn. 1183 00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:35.719 I like running around. 1184 00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.360 I've been dashing around in the little spaces and just 1185 00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:40.559 shooting them in the head, mostly with my like little 1186 00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:43.239 sniper rifle thing that I've just enjoyed. I just think 1187 00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:45.559 it's fun to use, it's easy. And when I run 1188 00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.920 out of those bullets, I go to Faithful shotgun and 1189 00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:50.679 I just bop them with my shield and shoot them 1190 00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:52.280 in the head until they're dead. And I don't have 1191 00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:54.519 to think about it that much. I feel very strongly. 1192 00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:56.360 You were kind of alluding to this earlier, but I 1193 00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:57.960 just feel really strongly when I play do them. I 1194 00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.719 don't want to be like, what's the strategy here? It's 1195 00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:02.599 like are you are you out of your mind? I 1196 00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:05.559 want to like completely close my entire brain off. I 1197 00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:08.119 want to enjoy this experience and that's all I care 1198 00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:08.840 about right now. 1199 00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:11.360 But the visual language is also really good where it's 1200 00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:13.239 like it teaches you early that like if you see 1201 00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.119 a bright green thing come in your way, hit lt 1202 00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:18.800 to parry, parry shield and that cares you know. There's 1203 00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:21.119 dragon levels, there's mech levels and on foot levels, and 1204 00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:23.719 that language stays the same throughout where it's like if 1205 00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:26.239 they're throwing orange energy at you block it or get 1206 00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:28.320 out of the way if it's green pariot, and that 1207 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:30.119 might put them in like a stagger sat and you can. 1208 00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:33.079 Go in reflex Yeah, reflex brain, I would say, like 1209 00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:35.960 one of the things that they tried to do that 1210 00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:38.360 I wasn't as stoked about is that there's like these 1211 00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:40.960 mini bosses at the end of chapters that I think 1212 00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:43.320 are a bit inspired by Returnal. 1213 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:45.719 There they just throw a lot. 1214 00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:48.760 Of balls at you and a bullet hell. Yeah, it is. 1215 00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:49.559 Very bullet hell. 1216 00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.840 I just think that when you're doing something that is 1217 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:55.719 quite similar to Returnal. The reality is is that these 1218 00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:58.320 boss fights aren't even nearly on the level of Returnal. 1219 00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:00.760 And so when I was experienced them, I was like, 1220 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:03.639 I feel like there was inspiration here, but you cannot 1221 00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:05.000 pull off what Returnal was doing. 1222 00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.159 And a party was like Eternal was doing stuff like 1223 00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:10.960 that before Returnal or sorry, the first Doom was doing 1224 00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:12.960 stuff like that too. It got pretty bullet helly with 1225 00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:15.199 some mini bosses. But to your point, Returnal definitely did 1226 00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:16.159 it better than that day. 1227 00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:19.519 They just did that is what like Housemark does is 1228 00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:22.639 they make like really sweet Bullet Hill type game. Sure, yeah, 1229 00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.199 Doom was never on the level of that with Bullet 1230 00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:26.440 Hill specifically, Yeah, I. 1231 00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:28.480 Think it's like put it on another level. I think 1232 00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:31.199 they're simplified versions of it still, right, these are mini 1233 00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:33.880 boss fights. They're not like meant to be crazy powerhouses, 1234 00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:36.440 but they are much more difficult enemies with a lot 1235 00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:38.840 more health, and they're shooting lots of balls at you, 1236 00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:41.519 and most of the time in these fights, the only 1237 00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:43.280 way to win is to parry the green balls. Like 1238 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:45.280 that's the only way you're actually going to knock their 1239 00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:49.880 health down with any efficiency. So I got adjusted to 1240 00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:52.960 doing that. I did not find them as satisfying, but 1241 00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:55.079 I got through them. The other thing that I did, 1242 00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:57.880 I feel like I haven't heard anyone say this, but 1243 00:56:57.960 --> 00:56:59.679 like I don't care for the dragons. 1244 00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:02.519 I don't care for I think if they did it 1245 00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:05.000 too much, I would not like it. But you know, 1246 00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:08.199 I'm eight nine chapters in and it's only one chapter 1247 00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:09.119 has been a Dragon one. 1248 00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:10.840 There's only been one Dragon chapter. 1249 00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:13.119 Yeah yeah, yeah, so I'm sure there will be another 1250 00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:15.239 one or two by the end. And I liked it. 1251 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:17.519 Like even in the Dragon one, you will like do 1252 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:19.559 a little bit of dragon combat stuff and then you 1253 00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:22.039 will land, you'll get off and then you know, you'll 1254 00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:24.360 go around to the dude. Yeah, and then big ending 1255 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:26.079 and you fly through the air and land on the 1256 00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:28.400 dragon again. Like it was just a vehicle kind of 1257 00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:29.400 getting from thing to the thing. 1258 00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:31.559 You're right, it is a vehicle, and I think in 1259 00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:33.519 that sense, like I'm fine with it. I think when 1260 00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:36.400 it ended, I remember saying to myself like I didn't 1261 00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:38.280 care for the dragon, which is such an amazing thing 1262 00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:40.360 to say, because the first time they gave me the 1263 00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:42.320 option to get in a dragon, I was like, you're 1264 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:46.280 you're crazy that they made this. It's so awesome that 1265 00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:49.599 they added a level where you're riding a freaking dragon. 1266 00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:53.719 It's like, hats off to them, But ultimately, it's just 1267 00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:56.079 not what I'm there to do. I'm not there to 1268 00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:58.320 play a dragon or ride in a dragon. I'm there 1269 00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:03.320 to shoot a gun that crushes skulls and shoots the 1270 00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:06.480 shards of their skull at my enemies. And that is 1271 00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:10.360 genuinely where this game shines. The guns are so fun, 1272 00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:13.960 they're expertly designed, they're joy to look at, like they're 1273 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:17.280 just they're like chunky and thick, and the sound effects 1274 00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:19.440 of this game are so fucking good, Like this is 1275 00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:21.199 where the game is at its best. 1276 00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.320 Have you got the grenade launcher? Oh? Yes, that is 1277 00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:29.400 a cool looking grenade launcher, Like the balls themselves like, yeah. 1278 00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.280 This game and its balls, they knew what they. 1279 00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:34.239 Were doing, oh ooh category best Balls of the year. Okay, 1280 00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:35.960 all right, okay, yep oka, I think we have the 1281 00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:37.280 doc Yeah, okay, great. 1282 00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:40.400 Yeah, I love that stuff. 1283 00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:42.880 I just think it's important that when you're evolving, and 1284 00:58:42.920 --> 00:58:45.159 obviously when they were making this game, they were thinking, like, 1285 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:48.719 what how do we make this better than the last one. 1286 00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:50.679 We're not making the same game. We have to like 1287 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.039 think about how we're evolving it. And I think they 1288 00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:56.239 did think about some inspirational things. 1289 00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:57.000 The mechs are. 1290 00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:01.320 Sick like, the dragons are really cool evolutionary concept. I 1291 00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:04.159 do think they came up with brand new gun designs 1292 00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:08.159 and brand new ways for you to kill people, and generally, 1293 00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:10.800 like all of these have been excellent decisions they have. 1294 00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:12.559 They have done a good job with this game, and 1295 00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:15.559 everyone is going to love it, like Doom is good 1296 00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:16.719 and even like. 1297 00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:18.320 The look of it. I was, I was like, is 1298 00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:20.239 it going to be too like fantasy? 1299 00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:20.760 You know? 1300 00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:23.280 Yeah, and it's it's a doom game. It's you've just 1301 00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:25.159 got tons of guns and stuff like, yeah, sure there's 1302 00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:27.880 some castles and dragons, but even those are like very doomified. 1303 00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:30.199 So no, if you if you like Doom, this has 1304 00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.639 the tone of a doom game. I agree, good stuff. 1305 00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:38.000 What a Shotgun cop Man? 1306 00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:40.760 Oh Dan and I both played this, which I think 1307 00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:48.119 is really funny. I don't know this is a Devolver Spech. 1308 00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:49.760 The developer of my friend Pedro the Banana game. 1309 00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:51.840 Yeah, that's right, which is also a pretty interesting game. 1310 00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:54.280 I believe this is a solo dev and it's very 1311 00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:58.360 unassuming visually. This is like kind of garbage looking like 1312 00:59:58.360 --> 00:59:59.920 you're like this little look. 1313 01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:01.039 I think it. 1314 01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:05.840 Yeah, And they have funny animations, like the very first 1315 01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:08.039 thing that happens because you are Shotgun cop Man, your 1316 01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:10.159 job is to go to Hell and arrest Satan. And 1317 01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:11.760 the very first thing that happens when you get dropped 1318 01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:14.119 off in the game is Satan shows up and you go, 1319 01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:17.960 I'm taking you in, Satan, and Satan goes, fuck you 1320 01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:21.000 shock Shotgun cop Man, and then he runs away, and 1321 01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:22.880 then you have to go through these levels. 1322 01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:25.480 I'm really curious, Dan, what you think. 1323 01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:28.800 I think where this game really shines is it the 1324 01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:33.159 mechanics are very simple. The shotgun is also your boost. 1325 01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:37.239 There's no jump, so you have to shotgun to move 1326 01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:41.440 quickly and efficiently, and you also have to kill things 1327 01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:43.239 in the area. You want to do three things. You 1328 01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:47.159 want to kill everything, you want to beat it with 1329 01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:50.400 a certain amount of time, and you want to take 1330 01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:53.719 no damage. And if you do those three things, you 1331 01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:55.599 get like an all in one check mark, which is 1332 01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:58.159 super addictive. And so my goal isn't to just get 1333 01:00:58.159 --> 01:00:59.760 through the levels, which I think you can do with 1334 01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:02.639 fair ease. The goal is to get through the level 1335 01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:05.079 and then realize, Okay, if I do it this way 1336 01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:07.320 and I do it with this combination, I can kill 1337 01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.239 everything without taking any hits, and I could probably do 1338 01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:11.480 it under twenty five seconds. And that's that's like the 1339 01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:13.400 sweet spot of like when this game really starts to 1340 01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:13.880 feel good. 1341 01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:16.679 Yeah, I think the platforming and the way it works 1342 01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:18.960 is really like you describe the shotgun, but like you 1343 01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:21.920 could shotgun, you'll you'll get a shotgun in one hand 1344 01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:23.840 and like pistols in the other, and so you'll do 1345 01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:25.960 like one big blast to shoot yourself into the air, 1346 01:01:26.239 --> 01:01:27.639 and then you can like pop up Pup Pup Papa 1347 01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:31.119 and kind of keep yourself hovering by shooting enemies. So 1348 01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:33.039 it is just a lot of like trying to figure 1349 01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:36.079 out the best use of you know, offense and platforming 1350 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:39.280 using whatever two guns you have equipped, and it's almost 1351 01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:41.199 like a meat boy style, like you know, it's just 1352 01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:46.000 very two D platforming action. You die quickly, restart quickly. 1353 01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:49.599 But yeah, it's it's doing something very simple, but it's 1354 01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:50.320 doing it very well. 1355 01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:53.480 I think, Yeah, I was comparing it to Down Well 1356 01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:57.760 because sure, I think in many ways as well. In 1357 01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:00.480 later levels there's lots of spikes and there's move componed. 1358 01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:02.000 I don't know how far you aren't it. I actually 1359 01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:04.360 it's really hard to gauge how far you are because 1360 01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:06.320 the map system isn't like you're on level twelve, Like, 1361 01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:08.199 I have no idea how far I am in this game. 1362 01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:11.079 I want to say maybe I'm halfway, but that is 1363 01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:16.280 like a bit of a guess. It gets really complicated 1364 01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:19.079 with just surviving, with just staying up in the air, 1365 01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:20.760 and so you get to have a lot of fun 1366 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.280 with shooting. You have two different guns, as you said, 1367 01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:27.679 shooting your different guns in a particular way that float 1368 01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:30.039 you just enough but not too much. Where you get 1369 01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:32.840 hit with spikes from above or like from a moving object. 1370 01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:34.880 You to be very delicate with your character. 1371 01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:38.280 I think this game is well crafted so that you 1372 01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:42.719 can maneuver yourself with two guns for jet packs essentially 1373 01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:44.519 without getting hurt. 1374 01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:46.119 And to me that was very down Well. 1375 01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:50.239 I used to always use the jet pack boots in 1376 01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:52.960 down Well. It gives you just a little bit of elevation, 1377 01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:55.440 which is very important and down Well in this game, 1378 01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:58.159 you just need that little bit of elevation and to 1379 01:02:58.199 --> 01:02:59.880 do that, you shoot your shotgun or you shoot your 1380 01:02:59.880 --> 01:03:01.719 gu on a couple times to get through. I also 1381 01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:04.039 think it has the down Well magic of like random 1382 01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:08.000 gun drops. In this game, you do not know the 1383 01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:10.360 gun that's actually going to be your next gun. 1384 01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:11.800 It's orang. 1385 01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:16.400 It could be a submachine gun, it could be a rifle. 1386 01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:19.639 You never know. It could be like a pistol, and 1387 01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:22.599 that will change the way you're able to navigate the space. 1388 01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:25.159 So it is different each time you play a level. 1389 01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:29.719 Yep, yep. I'm not being as meticulous as you with, like, 1390 01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:31.679 you know, getting the full all in one thing every time. 1391 01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:33.079 I'm just trying to like kind of get through it. 1392 01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:35.320 And like you said, it does get pretty hard and 1393 01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:36.800 you really have to learn when to like kind of 1394 01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:38.960 feather these shots. You know, how not to send yourself 1395 01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:41.599 into a spike above your head. And yeah, it's just 1396 01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:43.960 it's one of those very bite sized level games that, like, 1397 01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:45.360 you know, put it on a Steam deck, bring it 1398 01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:48.039 on a plane, knock out a few levels. It's an 1399 01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:50.760 easy one to pick up for fifteen minutes or an 1400 01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:52.519 hour if you want to. So yeah, I've definitely been 1401 01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:53.480 enjoying my time with it. 1402 01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:55.599 Yeah, I've really like I think this is a sleeper. 1403 01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:57.079 I feel like people aren't going to talk about this 1404 01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.480 game because it visually doesn't look amazing, and even when 1405 01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:01.960 you do get hands on it, like if there's like 1406 01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:03.559 a demo or something, you might be like, this is 1407 01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:06.880 a bit simple. But I actually think this game has 1408 01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:10.960 a really well done design. We haven't talked about the 1409 01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:14.000 music yet, but there's also like just a heavy feels 1410 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.719 like you're in a club beat, and so I feel 1411 01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:18.760 like you can really get in the zone with this 1412 01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:23.039 game mentally, where you're just completely zoned out and focused 1413 01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:27.199 on shooting every demon that comes into your face and 1414 01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:33.880 excuse me, stop talking. Yeah that's an that you're well, 1415 01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:35.599 you'll get there. You have to get me really good. 1416 01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:39.920 Yeah, that's the spoilers kish tonight. 1417 01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:42.440 No, I'm just kidding. 1418 01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:50.440 That sounds rad. My backlog is getting unwieldy almost, But 1419 01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:52.760 I'm getting there. I'll get there eventually. 1420 01:04:52.920 --> 01:04:53.519 Uh. 1421 01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:56.719 I will not, however, be playing Destreating two for a while. 1422 01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:00.400 But Dan you, I don't know if you heard I 1423 01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:02.239 went to Koji muf Production Productions. 1424 01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:06.079 Yeah, do you hear about that? I was at Cochi 1425 01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:07.159 Munt Productions for a while. 1426 01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:09.559 Why no? Because I was under a rock with my 1427 01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:14.760 fingers in my ears, trying my best not to know. 1428 01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:17.599 I forgot what we were talking about so much, and 1429 01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:19.920 I was just saying it, not as a brag. I 1430 01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:23.159 was saying it as a The reason I can't respond 1431 01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:25.400 right away is because I'm at Kadima Productions and we're 1432 01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:26.920 not allowed to use our phones if we're not in 1433 01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:30.280 the relaxation area. So that was just me saying sorry 1434 01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:35.159 at Kadima. That's why I'm not responding museum times. 1435 01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:38.519 You can't fucking a photo in there, just bragging. 1436 01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:42.760 No, Why were you in Japan recently? I went to 1437 01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:44.719 Coach Munt Productions. Oh nice? 1438 01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.599 How was dest eRating two seeming so far? How much 1439 01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:48.000 did you play? Did you just play straight from the 1440 01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:49.280 beginning or was it a rom. 1441 01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:52.719 The beginning and I played thirty hours? So you played 1442 01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:56.320 as much as most people. Many people would play when 1443 01:05:56.320 --> 01:05:59.000 they buy the game. I mean, yeah, but they said 1444 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.599 it was thirty to forty percent under the game, gotcha. 1445 01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:04.440 So it's a big fucking game, and I like it 1446 01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:06.119 a lot more than the first one, which you know, 1447 01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:07.480 I did come around on. You know, I think we 1448 01:06:07.480 --> 01:06:10.079 could give a Game of the Year, So yeah, I 1449 01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:11.159 came around on it for sure. 1450 01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:16.599 When does this game come out June this year? 1451 01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:18.000 Yeah? 1452 01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:20.960 Man, that means I have to quit the podcast. 1453 01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:22.559 So soon. 1454 01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:24.960 I don't know if it's gonna be getting Look, we 1455 01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:26.679 got a Mario Kart and a Donkey Kong and who 1456 01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:28.159 knows what else this year. I don't I don't know 1457 01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:30.199 if I'm fighting for Game of the Year for it's 1458 01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:35.480 what's new in two it's just does things. It's way 1459 01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:37.440 less of a pain in the ass in terms of 1460 01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:39.400 all of like the management you have to do. Like 1461 01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:42.039 in thirty hours, I think I soothed the baby twice. 1462 01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:45.840 You know, the cargo stuff, like there may be two 1463 01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.639 times three times that I fell down and like, oh, 1464 01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:51.079 fucked up my cargo or whatever. Oh they removed the 1465 01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:54.679 good stuff. No, they've got that stuff. I mean, you 1466 01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:56.360 can fall down and things like that you are still 1467 01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:59.000 delivering things. But just like when you get to a 1468 01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:02.159 bt air, you don't have to like crouch walk and 1469 01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:04.599 hold your breath and you know, just go at a 1470 01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:07.760 snail's pace and I have a blood boomerang that I 1471 01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:10.039 fill with my blood and throw it at BET's and 1472 01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:14.199 it kills him immediately back. Yeah, it's the oh God. 1473 01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:17.159 So when you approach an outpost, like you wanted to 1474 01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:20.320 avoid combat and stuff in the first game because it 1475 01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:22.920 just dudes with electric sticks would chase you and it 1476 01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:27.639 wasn't fun. Yeah, well this when you have like almost 1477 01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:30.639 a metal year level of like I've got trank sniper rifle. 1478 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.519 So like I'll build a watch tower on the perimeter 1479 01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:35.760 of an outpost. I'll get up there, i will trank 1480 01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:39.119 sniper rifle several dudes, and I'll get down there. I'll 1481 01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:42.559 throw my puppet doll Man. I'll throw him in the 1482 01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:44.559 air and he hovers in the air and you can 1483 01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:47.559 tag enemies through doll Man's eyes and then he comes 1484 01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:49.360 back and then it's like, okay, there's a guy over there. 1485 01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:51.360 I'll distract him with a hollow grenade that makes like 1486 01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:54.199 a holographic Ostrich and sneak up behind kill him and 1487 01:07:54.199 --> 01:07:56.880 then when things go to shit, you can actually just kill, 1488 01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:59.360 I mean not kill. It's all like non lethal stuff 1489 01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:02.239 because you can't avoid out, you know. But it's rubber bullets, 1490 01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:05.440 it's trank grenade launchers, it's things like your blood boomerang. Oh, 1491 01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:09.800 you can kill somebody with a rubber bullet A blessing, 1492 01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:12.800 blessing from kind of funny. Didn't realize that you could 1493 01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:15.280 just capture, like there's an animal shelter and it's in 1494 01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:18.239 Australia and you can like capture kangaroos and stuff and 1495 01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:20.520 bring to an animal shelter. He didn't realize you just 1496 01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:22.039 go up and press a button to put him in 1497 01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:24.239 like a nice little like box and deliver him to safety. 1498 01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:28.159 So he was unloading assault rifles with rubber bullets like 1499 01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:33.239 directly into kangaroos to knock them out. Kangaroos can be 1500 01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:36.199 dicks and blessings defense. Yeah, yeah, I've heard someone did 1501 01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:38.079 say that they can punch you. The kangaroos in the game. 1502 01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:43.279 Oh that jacked one. Uh yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 1503 01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:44.800 I think it'd be nice if you could get their 1504 01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:48.079 pouch and then like GTA like commandeer them and then 1505 01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:50.840 you tell them where to hop because you're in their pouch. 1506 01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:53.199 There's no room for ridiculous stuff in deest training too. 1507 01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:56.119 This is serious. Yeah, So like doll Man, you see 1508 01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:59.520 the ha of a man got in included in the 1509 01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:02.319 ka of a puppet, and that's why he's a puppet 1510 01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:04.840 that talks to you. And he explains to you that. 1511 01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:06.319 He's like, hey, Sam, do you want to know how 1512 01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:08.079 I stay so young? And I was like yes, because 1513 01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:10.800 he talked to him in your private room. And he says, well, 1514 01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:13.399 there's a character named Rainy and she's a seven month 1515 01:09:13.479 --> 01:09:16.159 pregnant woman where the fetus won't grow past seven months, 1516 01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:17.760 so it's just kind of staying and she's a still 1517 01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:20.399 mother or whatever, so the baby won't go past seven months. 1518 01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:24.319 But when she's outside, she causes time fall rainstorms, which 1519 01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:27.199 time fall rain makes everything age faster, but in a 1520 01:09:27.199 --> 01:09:30.119 one point five meter radius around her, it's core fall rain, 1521 01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:32.520 which makes things younger. So every once in a while 1522 01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:35.199 she takes the puppet into the shower and the shower 1523 01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:37.960 water turns into core fall rain, and since the puppet 1524 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:43.199 is showering with her, he stays young. Oh yeah, so convoluted. 1525 01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:47.960 I just saw getting realistic. I play games for escapism. 1526 01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:50.880 I don't want science and realism in my games. 1527 01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:53.960 Oh my god, it's just I don't know many things 1528 01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:57.199 like that that are just incredible. And it's genuinely just 1529 01:09:57.359 --> 01:10:01.760 very funny. It it's into it so much quicker, the 1530 01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:06.800 action's better, man, It's it's really really solid. I didn't 1531 01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:09.039 know if I would play another thirty hour like because 1532 01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:11.319 then you know, are saved and carry over whatever, so 1533 01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:13.000 I'm just gonna do it all again. But I had 1534 01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:15.720 so much fun playing it that I will absolutely do 1535 01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:18.960 it again. Cool. Where did you play it? How'd you 1536 01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:22.159 get your hands on it? It's just my buddy's house. 1537 01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:25.720 Oh yeah, you're just being Keeley. 1538 01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:28.239 Now. He was there. I was sitting next to him. 1539 01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:33.880 He was at the station next to me. This puppet 1540 01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:35.119 thing this city gets. 1541 01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:38.880 Did he get a computer bigger than you? Was it 1542 01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:40.359 like in the number one spot? 1543 01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:44.600 No? No, had the exact same setup, although his his 1544 01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:47.199 build was kind of weird because the prompts wouldn't show 1545 01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:49.199 up so like the square, it would just have like 1546 01:10:49.640 --> 01:10:51.479 a nothing button there. So that was that was a 1547 01:10:51.479 --> 01:10:54.399 whole chaotic thing for the first day or so. So yeah, 1548 01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:56.000 I had the better station than Keeley. 1549 01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:59.199 Just for dah, where's my prompt? You know, like Daddy 1550 01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:02.479 Keeley's got to have his prompts. He kept calling himself 1551 01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:05.399 Daddy Keeley. It was weird. Yeah, Daddy Keeley doesn't know 1552 01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:09.039 what button to press. Daddy Keeley needs his prompt. 1553 01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:11.720 Well, I didn't know you were also, could you have 1554 01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:12.640 a productions with us? 1555 01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:16.960 Welcome to the seventeenth Annual Game Awards. This is Daddy 1556 01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:20.479 Keeley and I am promptless. I'm going free bird tonight, 1557 01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:22.520 raw Dog and all you sounds a bit just tuning 1558 01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:26.760 in to see the hottest announcements the greatest awards. Now 1559 01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:32.720 for our next guest, it is Yosa Fares. They know 1560 01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:38.279 each other, I guess. So someone told me that you 1561 01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:40.359 finished Guns. What's Guns of Fury? 1562 01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:42.960 Guns of Fury was a game I told you It 1563 01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:46.920 was about a month ago. I think I've already been 1564 01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:49.039 playing it. But it's the one where it's a side 1565 01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:53.560 scroller metroid Vania that kind of feels like lots of 1566 01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:55.560 explosions and you're shooting a lot of people. But it 1567 01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:57.760 is a Metroidvania. And Dan, I told you I thought 1568 01:11:57.880 --> 01:11:58.560 you would. 1569 01:11:58.319 --> 01:11:58.920 Like I tried it. 1570 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:04.880 Yeah, yeah, I rolled credits on it. It's pretty fun 1571 01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:08.560 down to the last boss fight. It's such a slog 1572 01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:10.920 to get to the final boss fight, just because in 1573 01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:13.760 classic it's just in classic metroid vania style. Like there 1574 01:12:13.760 --> 01:12:15.840 were many times where I was like, where the fuck 1575 01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:19.039 am I going? And it's because I didn't have the 1576 01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:22.119 right boots with the spikes that so I could do 1577 01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:25.079 a double jump onto the thingy and I didn't know that, 1578 01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:26.920 so I was going into areas where I really didn't 1579 01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:31.039 have the right items in order to progress. But once 1580 01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:35.000 I figured it out, I was able to finish the game. 1581 01:12:35.159 --> 01:12:38.039 It felt really freaking good, and it has a really 1582 01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:41.680 funny ending of like when you're when you've killed the 1583 01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:44.600 final boss, you just kind of want a nice ending, 1584 01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:45.840 and they do that thing where he's like gets on 1585 01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:47.960 a motorcycle and he like rides into the sunset and 1586 01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:51.199 he's just like, yeah, we did it, and yeah it 1587 01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:54.039 was good. I've I've enjoyed the game. I just kind 1588 01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:57.640 of wanted to remind y'all, like I think it's a 1589 01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:03.800 good metroid vania people looking for this type of experience 1590 01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:11.800 that like retro style. I don't know the guns Blazing game. 1591 01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:13.640 That Metal slug, you know stuff. 1592 01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:14.479 Very metal slug. 1593 01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:16.560 I think it. I think it appeals to a certain user, 1594 01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:19.079 and so I was. I was glad to finally finish it. 1595 01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:22.119 But yeah, it took it. Took time to get through 1596 01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:23.800 that boss, but I was doing it on the flight 1597 01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:28.319 and uh, my flight was two hours delayed out of Boston. 1598 01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:30.600 There was a mechanical issue with the plane. And so 1599 01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:34.319 I sat there just burning through this game. And you 1600 01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:37.119 can tell people after two hours of delay, people are 1601 01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:39.520 heated on a This is a five hour flight. So 1602 01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:42.399 this flight has gone from five hours to seven hours. 1603 01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:46.680 People are angry, babies are crying, people need to pee, 1604 01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:50.399 Tensions were high, and I was like, this game is 1605 01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:53.800 so good, and I was just like I was completely 1606 01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:56.199 immersed in the game for the entire seven hours. I 1607 01:13:56.199 --> 01:13:58.039 think that's actually how I was able to finish it. 1608 01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:01.359 So nice. Yeah, I downloaded it. I played a little 1609 01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:03.039 bit and see what you're talking about, but didn't get 1610 01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:05.119 too far. And it's like, all right, once there's a 1611 01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:07.119 little more time specific stuff, Once I'm done with that. 1612 01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:08.279 That seems like a good playing game. 1613 01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:10.239 Yeah, it's a good plane game. And I think the 1614 01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:12.560 thing though that can happen and might happen with you 1615 01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:13.920 is like once you get stuck and you're like, I 1616 01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:16.640 don't actually know where to go next, that could be 1617 01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:19.039 like a forty five minute trip for you, like walking 1618 01:14:19.079 --> 01:14:21.960 around being like where what am I missing? And once 1619 01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:24.359 you figure it out, it's fine. But yeah, it can 1620 01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:25.159 get to you a little bit. 1621 01:14:25.479 --> 01:14:27.600 I mean yeah, but I've played something the Night Hollow 1622 01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:29.920 Night like and had those experiences in those games. As 1623 01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.520 long as I enjoy at the moment moment I'm accruing something, 1624 01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:34.920 whether it's XPE or currency or something, then it doesn't 1625 01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:35.640 bother me too much. 1626 01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:37.520 Well, then probably what will happen is that you will, 1627 01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:39.640 you know, hate the game and talk a bunch of 1628 01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:42.319 shit about it and then do like this crazy turn 1629 01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:44.800 and change of hearts six months later and then fight 1630 01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:46.600 for it like you actually as a person. 1631 01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:51.840 Grow as a person. Yeah, flip flop, no personal growth. 1632 01:14:53.079 --> 01:14:55.319 Just look, I own a concert. I can't be a 1633 01:14:55.439 --> 01:14:56.880 silly person who flip flops. 1634 01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:58.960 You can, and you are, and you. 1635 01:14:58.920 --> 01:15:01.840 Do to be silly anymore, Mary. 1636 01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:03.720 Bad people own companies all the time. 1637 01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:05.720 That's not true. 1638 01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:07.920 There are so many evil men. 1639 01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:11.960 No wait, I'm evil now, i I'm just. 1640 01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:12.800 Saying you can't. 1641 01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:16.159 You can't use your company owning as like something that 1642 01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:19.800 absolves you of anything. There's like so many badness. 1643 01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:20.960 I'm a serious person. 1644 01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:22.319 No, no you're not. 1645 01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:26.880 You're just this little slapheaded ding dong that got handed 1646 01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:29.880 the keys to the castle and somehow like they allowed 1647 01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:31.520 you in and I'm happy for you. 1648 01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:37.279 Yeah. Hump dirt, Yeah, truck fucker clothes. I get a mic, Yeah, 1649 01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:45.039 hump dirt, humpters. We own, we own fire Escape, yes 1650 01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:45.279 we do. 1651 01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:49.039 Dan's got his Dan's got his hands and everybody owned 1652 01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:49.960 multiple companies. 1653 01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:51.920 Yes, a lot of cookie jars. 1654 01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:54.159 That guy, I love cookies. 1655 01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:58.960 Yeah, he's got his hands and a lot of nib jars. 1656 01:15:58.960 --> 01:15:59.760 What can I say? 1657 01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:04.920 Boy boy needs his nib money. That's right. What is 1658 01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:10.600 Bionic Bay go? Oh geez? Wow? This today? It's like 1659 01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:13.840 a limbo or like an inside like really cool look 1660 01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:16.119 to it. A lot of physics puzzles, a lot of 1661 01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:19.439 like uh kind of puzzle. It's a puzzle platformer and 1662 01:16:19.439 --> 01:16:21.279 and both parts of it are very very good. If 1663 01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:23.680 you look up how the game looks, it's it's got 1664 01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:27.479 a hell of a aesthetic going on. Fantastic Steam deck game. 1665 01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:29.279 So when I was flying out to Japan. This is 1666 01:16:29.279 --> 01:16:32.399 the main thing I played, and not cool, very very fun. 1667 01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:36.079 Lot's the cool powers and yes if you like limbo 1668 01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:37.960 and inside and stuff like that, but almost wanted to 1669 01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:42.119 be a little more platforming centric. It's it's fantastic. 1670 01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:45.279 I'm gonna look it up. This seems like right up 1671 01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:49.039 my alley, like I could see you doing. 1672 01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:51.399 It quite a bit. Yes, all this stuff studio? What 1673 01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:52.399 else they make? Yeah? 1674 01:16:52.439 --> 01:16:55.960 Well yeah, tell me tell me their background. Oh, I'm 1675 01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:57.960 gonna seeze. 1676 01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:10.680 They are Kepler funded by the Royal Saudi family. Oh. Interesting, why. 1677 01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:15.039 It's a very plausible lot in the game industry. I 1678 01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:18.359 know that. I think this looks like their first game. Okay, nice, 1679 01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:20.199 It's a very good one. I would definitely recommend checking 1680 01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:20.479 it out. 1681 01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:21.479 Is exciting. 1682 01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:24.840 Thanks for the the tip. 1683 01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:26.720 I'm excited. I'm going to give this a try. 1684 01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:28.880 Mm hmm, all right. 1685 01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:33.640 I've been playing Warhammer with Vinnie. That's going super well Warhammer. 1686 01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:38.520 Yeah new for me, huh. I think Vinnie's hooked, Reanna. 1687 01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:40.680 I don't want to put words in his mouth, but 1688 01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:42.520 I think he's hooked. I think a lot of people 1689 01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:45.600 have been watching it. It's getting fun. My my one 1690 01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:49.279 campaign is I'm commanding a bunch of dinosaurs and he's 1691 01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:52.119 this high elf prince who's got a sexual thing for dragons. 1692 01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:53.920 So that's making it weird to work with a bunch 1693 01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:57.159 of lizards and reptiles because I feel like he's coming 1694 01:17:57.199 --> 01:17:57.600 on to me. 1695 01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:01.319 But I'm helping a game. Oh yeah, yeah no, not 1696 01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:05.239 not in not like Death Stranding too or Mario Party. 1697 01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:09.279 But it's right, it's got some yeah, okay. 1698 01:18:10.239 --> 01:18:13.199 And then my other campaign, I'm a vampire zombie pirates 1699 01:18:13.279 --> 01:18:16.800 and he's what is he He's uh, he's the skull 1700 01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:19.039 taker who's just collecting skulls for his cape. 1701 01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:23.359 Very doom. That dude, it's fun going, well, we gotta 1702 01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:25.399 do a We got into a few big battles. 1703 01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:28.399 People see what I think people are starting to see why, Well, 1704 01:18:28.520 --> 01:18:29.520 Mikey likes this game. 1705 01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:33.680 Yeah, mm hmmm, that sounds pretty fun. 1706 01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:39.119 Yeah. It required someone with an open mind as opposed 1707 01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:42.000 to you. You. If you would have just recommended it, 1708 01:18:42.119 --> 01:18:43.359 I would have given it a shot. 1709 01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:44.720 I don't mind. 1710 01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:48.359 Yeah, I'm not recommending it. I never once told thought 1711 01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:52.079 either of you would have would be any There's just something, 1712 01:18:52.119 --> 01:18:54.279 there's this artistic edge to the game. I don't think 1713 01:18:54.319 --> 01:19:00.640 you'd get uh huh going, well, it's fun. Uh. 1714 01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:02.720 That's in our off weeks here and then the other 1715 01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:04.000 campaign is on next Slander. 1716 01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:06.359 If you're not subscriber over there, you want to talk 1717 01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:10.680 about do you want to talk about emails? Concept? Concept? 1718 01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:11.720 I want to talk about. 1719 01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:16.000 Okay, as usual, you can ride into firescape cast at 1720 01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:20.479 gmail dot com if you have questions, comments, concerns, or quizzes. 1721 01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:21.960 We've not done a quiz in a long time, but 1722 01:19:22.199 --> 01:19:25.199 our friend Alex from Australia sent in a good one 1723 01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:27.239 tonight that I'm gonna be quiz master for. It was 1724 01:19:27.239 --> 01:19:31.720 specifically tailored to Dan and Mary's interests and knowledge, so 1725 01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:32.920 I won't mess with that. 1726 01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:36.640 But yeah, escape, yeah, a little bit. There's a few, 1727 01:19:36.680 --> 01:19:47.199 there's a van cross, there's a crossover. Yeah, mccari. 1728 01:19:49.319 --> 01:19:54.720 Beer drunk, so many things that we both love. 1729 01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:59.880 Mcgruber with beer, drawn, hollow night bars. 1730 01:20:00.239 --> 01:20:06.640 Yeah, bars, dogs, Yeah, soon, cats, when I start slipping 1731 01:20:06.680 --> 01:20:09.680 cats into Mary's house under cover of darkness, I'm not a. 1732 01:20:12.359 --> 01:20:16.199 Yeah, No, you'll evolve. You'll evolve at some point. Okay, 1733 01:20:16.520 --> 01:20:19.079 let us do this quiz. This is from Alex in Australia. 1734 01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:22.079 There are three questions for each of you. So six total, 1735 01:20:22.720 --> 01:20:24.479 and then at the end we could just tail it 1736 01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:28.039 tally up how well each of you did. If for 1737 01:20:28.039 --> 01:20:30.039 some reason there's a tiebreaker. There is no tie breaker 1738 01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:31.600 in the email. I will just kind of off the 1739 01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:33.359 cuff make up a tiebreaker question. 1740 01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:35.199 It'll be fine. 1741 01:20:35.359 --> 01:20:39.800 Okay, uh Mary, this question is for you specifically, and 1742 01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:42.000 you can you either get it correctly or you don't. 1743 01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:44.079 What are There's no multiple choice? 1744 01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:49.319 No? What are three growable crops in Stardow Valley? Just three. 1745 01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:53.119 Growable crops? 1746 01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:53.039 Yep? 1747 01:20:53.600 --> 01:21:00.960 Okay, you can grow? Is like time for that? I'm 1748 01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:01.920 like panicking now. 1749 01:21:02.039 --> 01:21:04.119 You take too long? Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna start 1750 01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:05.800 shouting this game. 1751 01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:08.840 Yeah, I know this game really really well. 1752 01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:10.960 I know I'm panicking. 1753 01:21:13.319 --> 01:21:19.239 Let me double check that. Yes there's horn, Yes there 1754 01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:19.720 just one. 1755 01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:24.960 More uh uh. 1756 01:21:24.760 --> 01:21:32.760 Uh uh seconds cauliflower. Yes, correct. 1757 01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:36.239 I had a panic attack, and I know that game 1758 01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:36.960 very well. 1759 01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:37.840 I know. 1760 01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:39.600 Well, you have me, you have me guys in there, 1761 01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:43.079 all right, Dan, your first question, what is the exact 1762 01:21:43.199 --> 01:22:11.800 day and date Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps was born thirty seconds. 1763 01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:10.560 March third, nineteen eighty eight. 1764 01:22:10.960 --> 01:22:14.279 No, it's the June thirtieth, nineteen eighty five. You have 1765 01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:21.279 zero points, Mary, Mary. Question two, name the main character 1766 01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:23.000 of the video game Duck Detective. 1767 01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:25.319 It's the duck. 1768 01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:27.840 What is his name? Um? 1769 01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:34.920 His name is uh quacks detective Quaxworth. 1770 01:22:35.920 --> 01:22:37.800 No, do you want a second try? 1771 01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:41.319 Uh, it's got quack in the name. 1772 01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:45.640 Yeah, but no, it's not it. All right, it's Eugene mcquacklin. Damn, 1773 01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:47.119 that's wrong, all right, Dan? 1774 01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:49.000 Question two? Yeah. 1775 01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:51.760 Known as the Gumby of the Pool, Michael Phelps also 1776 01:22:51.800 --> 01:22:55.800 won several Olympic gold medals. How many exactly did he win? 1777 01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:04.560 Eight? The correct answer is twenty three. 1778 01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:08.039 All right, Mary, you are up one. You have one 1779 01:23:08.239 --> 01:23:10.960 of two. Dan has zero of two Mary. Question three. 1780 01:23:11.479 --> 01:23:14.239 Internationally known as a good Boy. What is the name 1781 01:23:14.279 --> 01:23:14.960 of your dog? 1782 01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:24.159 I know this. His name is Simon full name Simon 1783 01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:27.920 Kish and we also sometimes call him Chug. 1784 01:23:28.439 --> 01:23:31.439 Yes, that's correct. Mary is two of three. Dan. You 1785 01:23:31.439 --> 01:23:32.560 don't have a chance to tie it. 1786 01:23:32.640 --> 01:23:35.479 This is just to save face before having to flee 1787 01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:38.199 international authorities for threatening to beat up the Pope. Michael 1788 01:23:38.199 --> 01:23:41.159 Phelps held several world records. What was his time at 1789 01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:43.840 the two thousand and six Pan Pacific championships in the 1790 01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:45.079 two hundred meters butterfly. 1791 01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:55.279 You know this, Dan, forty six seconds. 1792 01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:58.000 The correct answer is one minute, fifty three seconds and 1793 01:23:58.039 --> 01:24:02.800 eighty ever tense of a second. Uh, Mary, you have 1794 01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:05.079 won this quiz. Thank you for Alex, He says, Long 1795 01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:09.840 live the bomb, speaking of beating up the pope. I 1796 01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:13.159 watched you watched Conclave? Have you guys seen Conclave yet? 1797 01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:16.159 I missed a question dedicated for me. 1798 01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:19.840 I think you should lose the whole thing now, Dan, 1799 01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:22.560 did you know the name of the duck? Uh? No, 1800 01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:24.119 I wouldn't it had. 1801 01:24:24.119 --> 01:24:26.600 Quack in it. I knew that it was like quacks 1802 01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:30.800 you know, McGillicuddy, quacken Shire, but like I couldn't think 1803 01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:34.560 of it Quacksworth, Quackley. 1804 01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:43.800 Detective Eugene mcquachlan mcquachlin, Yeah, detective Detective mcquachlin, Yeah, mcquacklin. 1805 01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:47.079 That's funny. That was really funny. I mean, I think 1806 01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:52.359 it only like helps determine that I am smart. And 1807 01:24:52.840 --> 01:24:54.159 you know Dan is here. 1808 01:24:55.039 --> 01:25:00.399 You know I can't argue with the results score bomb. Okay. 1809 01:25:00.399 --> 01:25:03.760 I got a couple of email questions as well. We 1810 01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:08.000 can this person sending a lot of nice stuff about 1811 01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:10.039 each of us, but I think we don't have to 1812 01:25:10.039 --> 01:25:11.800 toot our own horn like that. I can delete that 1813 01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:16.640 said here. No, no, no, it was all extremely nice. 1814 01:25:16.640 --> 01:25:17.720 This is Cameron from Baltimore. 1815 01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:20.159 Thank you. They know what they wrote, appreciate it, but 1816 01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:21.640 it's just it would be a long read. 1817 01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:25.840 I will read it, yeah, Mary read it. Yeah, it's 1818 01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:27.880 in our inbox. Mary, do you want to read this one? 1819 01:25:28.039 --> 01:25:29.279 Cameron from Baltimore. 1820 01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:33.880 Yes, Hey, Fire Escape Gang. I've been listening since the 1821 01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:36.600 first episode, but never took the time to sit down 1822 01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:39.680 an email. With the death of Giant Bomb and Polygon 1823 01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:41.880 this week, I've been pretty sad but still excited for 1824 01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:46.119 everybody has next. Bet you didn't expect that when you 1825 01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:51.079 wrote this email, huf Cameron from Baltimore is crazy. I 1826 01:25:51.159 --> 01:25:55.319 know this is long, but you guys still like with 1827 01:25:55.479 --> 01:25:58.960 a question. Oh we cut out the middle part. Yea. 1828 01:25:59.159 --> 01:26:01.640 Over the years, you all have done a good bit 1829 01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:03.199 of playthroughs with different people. 1830 01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:06.079 What is your dream matchup of game and person? 1831 01:26:06.159 --> 01:26:08.319 For example, I personally think it's hilarious to go through 1832 01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:11.720 an entirety of Kingdom Hearts with Hideo Kajima. I think 1833 01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:14.880 he'd outwardly hate it, but secretly have fun, thanks for 1834 01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:17.720 everything you do, and kicking ass in the video game world. 1835 01:26:17.800 --> 01:26:21.600 Cameron from Baltimore. That's a good question. I thought I 1836 01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:24.319 didn't think like celebrities and like, you know, like when 1837 01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:25.520 they're like who would you have dinner with? 1838 01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:27.039 It could be a person who's dead. 1839 01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:31.039 Like that's a total game changer. I genuinely have always 1840 01:26:31.079 --> 01:26:34.680 felt that playing Resident Evil with Mike has been like 1841 01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:38.640 such an awesome combo because he knows those games quite well, 1842 01:26:39.039 --> 01:26:42.399 but we have a really silly connection when we play 1843 01:26:42.399 --> 01:26:44.680 them together, and it's been really fun for me having 1844 01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:48.560 the experience for the first time so realistically always able 1845 01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:51.640 to at all never it's always been beautiful. 1846 01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:54.319 No one's ever tried to five Wonders for our relationship, 1847 01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:55.439 but my. 1848 01:26:55.600 --> 01:27:00.800 Dream matchup in reality was me and Mike playing Right Evil. 1849 01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:03.359 I really enjoyed playing that series with you and I 1850 01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:05.640 and I have really good memories doing it, and it's 1851 01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:06.600 really special to me. 1852 01:27:07.479 --> 01:27:10.720 Now fantasy, that's a whole new thing. 1853 01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:14.640 I have one go ahead, I would love to play 1854 01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:16.000 Golden Eye with fom K Johnson. 1855 01:27:18.319 --> 01:27:19.159 I have another one. 1856 01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:21.000 I dare you use this to be a pervert. 1857 01:27:22.079 --> 01:27:24.680 I would love to play Death Stranding with fom Ka Johnson. 1858 01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:31.079 Oh wait, I got I would love to play Terraria. 1859 01:27:32.399 --> 01:27:34.159 Know you want to play a game that's like four 1860 01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:37.079 hundred hours to finish it so that you just get 1861 01:27:37.199 --> 01:27:37.880 lots of time. 1862 01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:40.319 I have one. I would love to play Ninja Guid 1863 01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:48.479 in Black two with fom Kay Johnson. These are good answers, Yeah. 1864 01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:50.960 Yeah, yeah, these are the dream situation. 1865 01:27:52.359 --> 01:27:56.279 I do wish there were more like being serious, not 1866 01:27:56.319 --> 01:27:59.119 that I wasn't serious, but I do wish there were 1867 01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:05.640 more developers like I enjoy what you Know IGN and 1868 01:28:05.680 --> 01:28:08.239 even like what I Know what the show that Lucy 1869 01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:11.199 had been doing a game spot where like developers you know, 1870 01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:15.000 commentate on stuff. I wish there were more avenues for 1871 01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:17.920 developers to do, like full playthroughs and just comments on 1872 01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:20.359 like each mission. That'd be rad Like I'd love to 1873 01:28:20.439 --> 01:28:23.720 hear the og Halo developers talk about each mission and 1874 01:28:23.800 --> 01:28:26.279 combat evolved like they're thinking for designing them back in 1875 01:28:26.279 --> 01:28:29.600 two thousand and one, late nineties' that'd be cool. 1876 01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:33.279 Sure, what about you, Dan? What do you think? 1877 01:28:35.640 --> 01:28:38.760 I say this because conceptually it sounds funny, but it'd 1878 01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:41.520 probably be more infuriating. But making my dad play through 1879 01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:46.279 all of Metal Year sounds pretty funny. I did watch 1880 01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:49.600 him watch some of it when Kayla was playing four 1881 01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:54.319 and uh yeah, that was not penetrating his head at all. Yeah, 1882 01:28:54.640 --> 01:28:56.000 is this a shooting game? Is this is to shoot 1883 01:28:56.039 --> 01:29:01.159 him up? Yeah? Dest stranding with my gram would be fun. 1884 01:29:01.760 --> 01:29:04.039 That would be fun. That's a sweet one. 1885 01:29:04.439 --> 01:29:07.840 Wait, why what about your grandma? Why would she She 1886 01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:10.960 was just afraid of everything. She's afraid of being confused 1887 01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:14.319 by everything in the world and definitely does not take 1888 01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:15.920 in anything like that. And I would just like to 1889 01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:17.000 see how she reacts to that. 1890 01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:21.680 Okay, gotcha In a dream where I could play with anyone, 1891 01:29:22.079 --> 01:29:25.960 I think it'll be really fun to play most game 1892 01:29:26.039 --> 01:29:30.159 series with Conan O'Brien, and I think I would pick 1893 01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:31.680 GTA because I think he would have a lot of 1894 01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:37.560 fun experiencing GTA and the storylines and the different things 1895 01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:39.600 that you go through. I think he would. I think 1896 01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:41.840 he would just be so fun to play that with 1897 01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:44.640 and so throwing it out there into the ether that 1898 01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:47.279 I would literally play any game with Conan O'Brien and 1899 01:29:47.279 --> 01:29:52.560 have such a good time. Yeah, any comedian playing a 1900 01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:53.760 game with would probably be a joy. 1901 01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:56.880 Honestly, oh Man, I'd love to hear. What's his name, 1902 01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:01.800 Daniel Danielson? What's the Norwegian dude? 1903 01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:06.000 Damn? At the Comedy Seller? I forget, but he was great. Yeah, 1904 01:30:06.039 --> 01:30:08.640 the autistic Norwegian dude. He'd be fun to play games with. 1905 01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:11.720 He was hilarious. Yeah, Hey, anybody but into the bank? 1906 01:30:13.079 --> 01:30:16.000 I do you I've married? Do you know who that is? 1907 01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:17.680 Hold on, let me look up his name because now 1908 01:30:17.800 --> 01:30:22.840 Daniel uh Norwegian comedian. 1909 01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:28.960 H Daniel Simonson. Oh, he gets up on stage. 1910 01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:30.199 The first time I ever saw him, I was with 1911 01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:33.199 Dan at the Comedy Seller and just clearly was immediately 1912 01:30:33.239 --> 01:30:37.800 being awkward. But he's just his jokes are all about 1913 01:30:37.880 --> 01:30:40.520 like how awkward he is, which I usually don't find funny, 1914 01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:43.399 but he just was nailing it. He's like, I've been 1915 01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:46.680 really working on just, you know, my small talk lately. 1916 01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:48.760 So next time I go to the barbecue, people are 1917 01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:51.079 gonna be loo, look out here comes Daniel, and I'm 1918 01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:52.920 gonna be like, hey, anybody been to the bank. 1919 01:30:53.720 --> 01:30:58.119 That's his idea of I'm not doing justice. Daniel Simonson. 1920 01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:05.199 Watch watch, go, watch go watch some clips of him. Okay, 1921 01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:07.079 didn't mean to minimize that. Dan, You want to read 1922 01:31:07.079 --> 01:31:10.960 this last one. Uh, this is thank you camera from Baltimore. 1923 01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:15.840 Who is this from? Let me look Matt, Matt from Massachusetts, 1924 01:31:16.039 --> 01:31:16.760 Matt B. 1925 01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:20.640 From Massachusetts. Wait a minute, Oh, never mind. 1926 01:31:20.680 --> 01:31:20.880 Okay. 1927 01:31:20.920 --> 01:31:22.840 They were asking about whether the new season of the 1928 01:31:22.880 --> 01:31:25.159 rehearsal is sucking up your newfound confidence with flying. 1929 01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:29.479 Oh no, no, that's it's I never worry about the 1930 01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:30.800 plane crashing or anything like that. 1931 01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:32.840 No, got cha, What do you worry about when you're 1932 01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:33.439 have anxiety? 1933 01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:35.359 It's just anxiety. It's just the fear of fear in 1934 01:31:35.399 --> 01:31:40.640 panic attacks. And it's for people that don't really have this, 1935 01:31:40.920 --> 01:31:43.479 it's almost impossible to explain. It's just like the fear 1936 01:31:43.520 --> 01:31:46.640 of having a panic attack and not having control over it. 1937 01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:49.960 And yeah, but I mean it never happens, you know. 1938 01:31:50.119 --> 01:31:51.800 It's just the idea of like, oh, I'm locked in 1939 01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:54.000 this thing for you know, twelve hours, and am I 1940 01:31:54.079 --> 01:31:55.560 just gonna be doomed to have this panic attack a 1941 01:31:55.600 --> 01:31:57.640 whole time? I've never once worried about a plane crashing, 1942 01:31:57.720 --> 01:31:59.399 you know, which, I think a lot of people when 1943 01:31:59.479 --> 01:32:01.439 you say fear of lying, they assume that. But if 1944 01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:03.960 you tell it to anyone with like severe anxiety disorders, 1945 01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:05.800 they're like, oh, I get it so but no, no, 1946 01:32:05.880 --> 01:32:10.239 I'm getting much better that stuff. But yeah, hey, Fire 1947 01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:14.000 Escape Cast Matt Bee from Massachusetts here to say congratulations 1948 01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:16.720 to Dan and the Giant Bomb crew on this huge moment. 1949 01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:19.760 I'm actually writing this live at Packs East during the panel. 1950 01:32:20.039 --> 01:32:22.239 I'm an enforcer here and it was awesome seeing both 1951 01:32:22.319 --> 01:32:24.600 Dan and Mary here. Now, this is not a Giant 1952 01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:27.239 Bomb podcast, so let's get to business here, Mike, if 1953 01:32:27.319 --> 01:32:29.720 Dan and Mary were a wine, what wine would they be? 1954 01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.479 And why would Dan be? Wine? In a box? Love 1955 01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:34.560 you guys rocking banana yellow for life. 1956 01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:36.800 Oh that's so sweet. I do not know if this 1957 01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:39.319 is the same person. But while Mike thinks of the answer, 1958 01:32:39.399 --> 01:32:44.079 I just want to say that post the panel, everybody 1959 01:32:44.119 --> 01:32:48.359 was kind of gathering around you guys and giving you 1960 01:32:48.439 --> 01:32:50.760 congrats and cheersing you, and you were kind of just 1961 01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:56.079 hanging out with everybody. And I was hanging out in 1962 01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:59.399 the corner quietly and a person came up to me. 1963 01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:01.119 They did not tell me their name, and they said, Hey, 1964 01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:03.680 I just want to let you know I always rock 1965 01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:06.319 in that banana yellow. And I was like, dude, that's 1966 01:33:06.319 --> 01:33:08.479 so fucking cool. That's such a funny thing to say 1967 01:33:08.479 --> 01:33:11.600 to me, and like, I really appreciated whoever that was. 1968 01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:15.199 I appreciate you. I love that. I will always retweet 1969 01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:18.680 a banana yellow shirt. But it's just a funny and 1970 01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:21.199 really silly specific thing that you can say to me 1971 01:33:21.279 --> 01:33:23.720 that makes me smile. So I thought that was very sweet. 1972 01:33:23.720 --> 01:33:25.479 I don't know if that's the ensporcer or if this 1973 01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:29.159 is a separate person, because there's there's thousands of people 1974 01:33:29.239 --> 01:33:31.760 rocking that banana yellow, so it could be anyone. Really, 1975 01:33:31.800 --> 01:33:34.119 Oh yeah, it really could It truly could be. The 1976 01:33:34.319 --> 01:33:36.960 Metal had a bunch, ye I know, it's very in 1977 01:33:37.119 --> 01:33:37.560 right now. 1978 01:33:37.640 --> 01:33:39.159 People love that banana yellow. 1979 01:33:39.720 --> 01:33:43.119 Oh god, imagine if if someone actually wore fire Escape 1980 01:33:43.159 --> 01:33:45.199 merch to the met Gala, they would actually probably be 1981 01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:49.960 seen as cool and avant garde the fire Escape. 1982 01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:52.479 Listen up, celebrities that go to the met galo that 1983 01:33:52.520 --> 01:33:55.359 listen to fire Escape, You too could be the bell 1984 01:33:55.439 --> 01:33:57.520 of the ball if you want to wear a banana 1985 01:33:57.600 --> 01:33:59.439 yellow T shirt to the Metal and if. 1986 01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:02.079 You're free, if you're a celebrity of enough statue, yeah. 1987 01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:03.520 No you can pay for it. You're rich, but like, 1988 01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:07.479 don't be a little bitch. Pay for them shirt and 1989 01:34:07.800 --> 01:34:08.239 wear it. 1990 01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:10.039 Speaking of which, I don't know if you guys talked 1991 01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:11.560 about this, but you guys talk about the fact like 1992 01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:14.520 right after your panel Jeff got kicked out. 1993 01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:19.920 Oh god, I forgot about that. Backalre no Grub wait 1994 01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:23.840 deal like they were telling us all to like move Yeah, 1995 01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:26.439 well he heard two different stories from enforcers. We were 1996 01:34:26.439 --> 01:34:29.079 like sitting there doing meet and greets with fans, and understandably, 1997 01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:31.760 you know, the packs enforcers were like, hey, come on, move, 1998 01:34:31.760 --> 01:34:32.800 we got to clear this area. 1999 01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:34.800 Cletely reasonable, which is reasonable. 2000 01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:37.000 We kept moving down. We kept moving down, and they 2001 01:34:37.079 --> 01:34:38.560 kept being like, we'll move more, move more, and we 2002 01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:43.279 kept moving more, and one packs enforcer took his badge 2003 01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:46.600 and said it was because he wasn't moving down enough. 2004 01:34:46.760 --> 01:34:48.720 But then wasn't. Another one saying because he had alcohol. 2005 01:34:49.199 --> 01:34:52.640 So the the panelist before this is what I heard. 2006 01:34:52.760 --> 01:34:55.079 The panelists before us, I guess had like. 2007 01:34:55.079 --> 01:34:59.520 A fifth of they did. I brought a glass on stage, yeah. 2008 01:34:59.079 --> 01:35:02.520 And they gave to you guys and so but you 2009 01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:05.920 didn't bring it in. But it was contraband and I 2010 01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:10.279 just think Grub wasn't thinking and just put the fifth 2011 01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:14.319 of whiskey in his back pocket visible and when the 2012 01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:16.720 enforcer saw it, he was like, you can't have that, 2013 01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:19.199 You're out of here, and confiscated his badge and kicked 2014 01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:19.680 him out. 2015 01:35:20.199 --> 01:35:23.039 Incredible, you bought giant bomb then got kicked out. 2016 01:35:22.880 --> 01:35:25.680 Of packs, Jeff grub It's already going to his head 2017 01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:27.520 being whatever that title is. 2018 01:35:27.800 --> 01:35:31.800 So funny anyway, a funny side story of getting kicked 2019 01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:32.359 out of packs. 2020 01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:34.479 But hopefully that brought you time to think about our wines. 2021 01:35:35.119 --> 01:35:38.520 I didn't need time. I got it. Uh Dan, I 2022 01:35:38.920 --> 01:35:39.600 always see Dan. 2023 01:35:39.640 --> 01:35:41.119 I think a lot of people see him as this big, 2024 01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:45.119 boisterous personality with a booming voice that carries as we 2025 01:35:45.199 --> 01:35:49.800 talked about earlier, but there's some nuance once you get 2026 01:35:49.840 --> 01:35:51.199 to know him. But I think I think at the 2027 01:35:51.239 --> 01:35:54.079 end of the day, he's a very very reliable friend 2028 01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:57.279 and someone that like even if I even if I'm 2029 01:35:57.319 --> 01:35:59.680 like going farther afield and trying out new stuff all 2030 01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:02.399 over the world, I think he's like a Rutherford Cab. 2031 01:36:02.439 --> 01:36:04.720 He's always going to be like, He's always going to 2032 01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:06.880 be a good friend and be there for for whatever 2033 01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:08.960 I whenever I come back and want, you know, like 2034 01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:12.840 old reliable, reliable, Yeah. 2035 01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:16.239 Mary, I would say you're more like a Barolo or 2036 01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:16.920 a barber. 2037 01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:21.119 Esco both Nebiolo made from Nebiola. I think you start 2038 01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:23.399 off like I think when you're first getting to know Mary, 2039 01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:27.000 she could be extremely tannic and uh and can be 2040 01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:29.079 maybe a bit like have an edge to her, especially 2041 01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:29.720 if you're a mom. 2042 01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:31.239 From Jersey to say annoying. 2043 01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:33.640 No no no no no no, not like that. 2044 01:36:33.720 --> 01:36:35.479 You can be fiery, and you can be like, you 2045 01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:37.640 can be abrasive at first if you're a mom from Jersey, 2046 01:36:37.720 --> 01:36:40.960 you know, like just rubbing you the wrong way. But 2047 01:36:41.359 --> 01:36:43.680 over time, as you like you start to breathe and whatnot, 2048 01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:47.399 you become very very ethereal, and you can be very 2049 01:36:48.199 --> 01:36:52.600 very alluring and uh and very uh you know, like 2050 01:36:52.720 --> 01:36:56.680 just generally very memorable to be around. Yeah, that's that's 2051 01:36:56.800 --> 01:36:57.920 that's what I think you guys are. 2052 01:36:59.319 --> 01:37:01.000 I think that's and I accept that. 2053 01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:04.640 I would always say I had a friend who was 2054 01:37:04.640 --> 01:37:07.039 like a lot like high high energy, and I used 2055 01:37:07.079 --> 01:37:10.720 to always say I take them in doses, meaning like 2056 01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:12.640 I could totally hang out with them for like two 2057 01:37:12.720 --> 01:37:14.600 maybe three hours, but then I need a break because 2058 01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:17.319 they're like way too intense. And I think for how 2059 01:37:17.319 --> 01:37:19.520 intense I am. There are some like there were like 2060 01:37:19.560 --> 01:37:21.520 more city people who are like, listen, I got like 2061 01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:23.399 two to three hours with that girl, and I need 2062 01:37:23.439 --> 01:37:26.880 a moment. So like, I think it's super fair and 2063 01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:30.279 par for the course that like it's I'm an acquired taste, 2064 01:37:30.279 --> 01:37:32.199 whereas Dan is a classic. 2065 01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:35.119 Oh thank you, Yes, that's yes, that's a good way 2066 01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:35.479 to put it. 2067 01:37:36.239 --> 01:37:38.119 Water down, red with some ice in it. 2068 01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:40.640 Thank you, Matt b and thank you for keeping those 2069 01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:45.079 hallways clear of Jeff Grubbs shenanigans at packs. He's already 2070 01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:47.520 been a prima donna. After what a week A giant 2071 01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:52.239 bombs chame on it. Well, that's our episode. It's been 2072 01:37:52.279 --> 01:37:55.000 a while since we've all been together. Got a lot 2073 01:37:55.039 --> 01:37:58.039 more travel coming up, but will you know, knock on wood. 2074 01:37:58.039 --> 01:37:59.680 I think we're planning on all being here for the 2075 01:37:59.680 --> 01:38:01.319 next one, so that'd be fun. 2076 01:38:02.199 --> 01:38:03.840 Try and do it come hell or high water. This 2077 01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:06.319 is very important to us and we appreciate your support 2078 01:38:06.399 --> 01:38:10.119 and thank you so much for the support of fire 2079 01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:12.720 Escape over the years. It's really meaningful, and if anything, 2080 01:38:13.159 --> 01:38:16.159 this is just a reminder to always support local support 2081 01:38:16.319 --> 01:38:18.720 at like the micro level, support at the. 2082 01:38:18.760 --> 01:38:20.079 Human level, where you can. 2083 01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:25.079 Who knows when Giant Bomb will just become corporate again, 2084 01:38:25.520 --> 01:38:28.920 Like you know, I can see it. Dan, Dan's going 2085 01:38:28.960 --> 01:38:31.199 to like start wearing suits and he's going to start 2086 01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:34.159 worrying about the numbers, and you know, worry. 2087 01:38:33.960 --> 01:38:36.439 About the numbers. But yeah, no suits on the horizon. 2088 01:38:37.359 --> 01:38:38.439 Do you even own a suit? 2089 01:38:38.720 --> 01:38:39.399 You own a suit? 2090 01:38:39.479 --> 01:38:41.960 Yeah? I bought a bunch when I got hired at Devnade, 2091 01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:43.319 but then the pandemic it and I didn't have to 2092 01:38:43.319 --> 01:38:44.760 wear any of them. So I was literally looking at 2093 01:38:44.760 --> 01:38:46.279 them today and be like, god, damn it. Spent like 2094 01:38:46.399 --> 01:38:48.239 probably a couple thousand dollars in all these suits and 2095 01:38:48.279 --> 01:38:52.119 haven't worn them once because yeah, the pandemic it. Yeah, 2096 01:38:52.239 --> 01:38:53.600 great suits you could wear. 2097 01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:56.960 You look nice in a suit. Nobody cleans up like Mike. 2098 01:38:57.640 --> 01:38:58.760 He's always you. 2099 01:38:58.680 --> 01:39:00.880 Have to because you're moments, But I thank you. 2100 01:39:01.239 --> 01:39:03.039 I don't do it like without nothing. 2101 01:39:03.079 --> 01:39:04.760 But I'm just saying I think you have to because 2102 01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:07.680 your wife's so smoking hot. If you were like dressed 2103 01:39:07.680 --> 01:39:10.880 for the nines, yeah, she'll she'll find someone else. You 2104 01:39:10.880 --> 01:39:12.600 gotta like keep it up. You gotta like you gotta 2105 01:39:12.680 --> 01:39:14.760 keep going real, keep it at the highest bar. 2106 01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:17.039 Plus like this is me as well. You just wouldn't 2107 01:39:17.079 --> 01:39:19.359 know that that helps. 2108 01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:22.600 Oh yeah, is that a penis thing? Yeah, it's huge. 2109 01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:24.760 It's always really hard walking around and you got to 2110 01:39:24.760 --> 01:39:26.680 twelve foot python in your pants. 2111 01:39:28.840 --> 01:39:34.680 Four Yeah, So why I say them, It's fun to 2112 01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:38.199 hear them. 2113 01:39:38.600 --> 01:39:41.399 Yeah that Mary. What do you have going on outside 2114 01:39:41.399 --> 01:39:42.119 of the fire escape? 2115 01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:42.760 Yeah? 2116 01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:44.520 I usually say the same thing, but I will also 2117 01:39:44.600 --> 01:39:49.560 say that because uh uh, I'm limiting my VODs on Twitch. 2118 01:39:49.600 --> 01:39:52.079 I put everything on my YouTube. So if you ever 2119 01:39:52.119 --> 01:39:54.079 want to watch an old stream of mine or even 2120 01:39:54.119 --> 01:39:57.039 my new streams, I'm putting all of the VODs on YouTube. 2121 01:39:57.159 --> 01:40:00.439 It's the same name, Emmy Ryki say, so you can 2122 01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:04.119 watch everything on YouTube. I will also say, like, I 2123 01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:06.319 have found that my social media of choice as of 2124 01:40:06.359 --> 01:40:08.960 late really has been Instagram. So like if I'm posting 2125 01:40:09.039 --> 01:40:12.520 Dan dancing at a clerb, or like fun photos of 2126 01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:17.079 watching mcgruber in a hotel room, it's it's usually on Instagram, 2127 01:40:17.079 --> 01:40:18.000 so you can find me there. 2128 01:40:19.279 --> 01:40:21.079 Cool Dan? What about you? I mean I think we 2129 01:40:21.159 --> 01:40:25.319 talked about it, but blue Sky and Instagram for socials and. 2130 01:40:25.960 --> 01:40:26.680 What have you been up to? 2131 01:40:27.239 --> 01:40:28.119 Yeah? What do you want to? 2132 01:40:28.159 --> 01:40:29.640 What do you want to if you want to plug anything, 2133 01:40:29.680 --> 01:40:30.359 this is the point. 2134 01:40:30.159 --> 01:40:32.560 I was gonna plug something. I would plug giant bomb 2135 01:40:32.600 --> 01:40:35.159 dot com, which I have plugged for a long time now, 2136 01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:38.039 but especially proud of it. Right now, we're gonna be 2137 01:40:38.039 --> 01:40:41.119 making some fun stuff and giant bomb dot com slash Join. 2138 01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:44.119 This thing is alive now because of people that support us, 2139 01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:47.119 So yes, check us out for free if you can, 2140 01:40:47.239 --> 01:40:49.560 but if you can support monetarily, giant bomb dot com 2141 01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:53.680 slash join and it's gonna be very very fun cool. 2142 01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:56.319 And I'm playing Total War Warhammer three two co op 2143 01:40:56.359 --> 01:40:58.199 campaigns with Anny Caravella of Nextlander. 2144 01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:00.960 We're doing one campaign here. You're on fire Escape. 2145 01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:03.600 If you're not subscribed, you want to see that, do 2146 01:41:03.720 --> 01:41:06.000 that for our video tier. And then if you're not 2147 01:41:06.039 --> 01:41:08.119 subscribing next Lander, you want to see our Evil campaign. 2148 01:41:08.159 --> 01:41:10.720 We're playing different factions and different parts of the huge 2149 01:41:10.720 --> 01:41:14.760 map that's over on next Lander. Go subscribe to their 2150 01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:17.119 top tier as well. That's every other week. It's our 2151 01:41:17.159 --> 01:41:20.000 off week. We publish our good campaign and then the 2152 01:41:20.079 --> 01:41:22.399 Evil will publish a new one. Would have published today. 2153 01:41:22.399 --> 01:41:24.199 If you're listening to this episode right now on day one, 2154 01:41:25.439 --> 01:41:26.880 all right, that's our. 2155 01:41:26.800 --> 01:41:30.000 Episode we'll be back, yeah, in a couple of weeks. 2156 01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:31.000 Good to see both of you again. 2157 01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:33.720 While too, it's been nice. It's nice to catch up, 2158 01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:38.079 and especially with such good news. Everybody's so successful. Somoliers 2159 01:41:39.159 --> 01:41:40.319 co owners. 2160 01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:43.279 One hundred and fifty nine points. I think I forgot 2161 01:41:43.319 --> 01:41:45.039 about that. 2162 01:41:45.039 --> 01:41:47.399 That's why you're my best ye, yeah. 2163 01:41:47.319 --> 01:41:49.199 I remember one hundred and fifty nine. I mean, if 2164 01:41:49.199 --> 01:41:51.000 you don't bump those rookie numbers up, then we won't 2165 01:41:51.039 --> 01:41:52.560 be besties. But I still think it was kind of 2166 01:41:52.560 --> 01:41:55.560 impressive to begin with. All Right, everybody will see you 2167 01:41:55.600 --> 01:41:56.399 in a couple of weeks. 2168 01:41:56.920 --> 01:42:25.159 Fah,