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Speaker 1: good afternoon. I'm Chris Merril.
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Speaker 2: I had a story about to former inmates of San
Speaker 2: Quentin going back to play an alumni game on their
Speaker 2: Field of Dreams, which is the baseball field inside the prison,
Speaker 2: and so it's former inmates versus current inmates. Current inmates
Speaker 2: won big ley. Incidentally, what is someplace that you would
Speaker 2: never go back to visit? Because if I got out
Speaker 2: of Saint Quentin, I would never even want to drive
Speaker 2: by the place, and if I did, I go nightmares
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: That's it. I just never want to go back.
Speaker 2: Curious about what where it is that you've spent time
Speaker 2: that you would never want to go back to again.
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Chris, listen is to Heilly out of him
Speaker 3: in California. The one place I would not go back
Speaker 3: to Tahati Village time share presentation. I thought it was
Speaker 3: cool because I said they were giving away like three days,
Speaker 3: four nights, But it felt like I was a hostage
Speaker 3: and it was very hostile. I do not advise that
Speaker 3: for anyone. The work's the one place a time share presentation.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, thinking about it now is give me exiety.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: My wife dragged me to a couple of those because
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, they're gonna pay for you know. We
Speaker 2: had two nights at this dump of a hotel in Branson, Missouri. Oh,
Speaker 2: we did it there. And then when we first got married,
Speaker 2: actually was here. We sat through one of those timeshare
Speaker 2: presentations because they give us tickets to I think Universal
Speaker 2: Studios or something. We were living in northern Arizona at
Speaker 2: the time, and they said, so we had to sit
Speaker 2: through that, and they said, oh, you should only take
Speaker 2: about two hours. You know, when it only takes you know,
Speaker 2: when the presentation only takes two hours is when you
Speaker 2: when you sign up for a time share right away.
Speaker 2: In both cases, we were stuck there for four hours.
Speaker 2: We were the last to leave. And he's right, you
Speaker 2: feel like a hostage. Oh it's the worst. I'm with you.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, and finally after the last one, my
Speaker 2: wife is like, Okay, We're never going to do that again.
Speaker 2: It's not worth it. I go, was that worth the
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars that we just saved? She goes, no,
Speaker 2: it was not.
Speaker 4: Hey, Chris, someplace I'd never go back to visit probably
Speaker 4: send you Comic Con that place. I mean, it's it's great,
Speaker 4: but after going for you know, so many years, the
Speaker 4: pandemic stout me and I think I'm done with that place.
Speaker 1: Too crazy. It is crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been to comic Con, Kayla, Now, no, it's
Speaker 2: pretty crazy. When you like, you have to be in
Speaker 2: that mood, the same mood you have to be in
Speaker 2: when you go. I'm going to go deal with the
Speaker 2: crazy amount of people at for instance, Universal Studios, which
Speaker 2: the day that we went, which was part of our honeymoon,
Speaker 2: it rained like torrents and it was wonderful. Oh so
Speaker 2: few people there. I mean it was buckets. We're riding
Speaker 2: roller coasters.
Speaker 1: In the rain.
Speaker 2: It was so great. I loved it so much. But
Speaker 2: Comic Con is it's just a madhouse. It's like going
Speaker 2: to Disney on a popular day. It's just it's just
Speaker 2: a madhouse and you're standing out, you're standing outside and
Speaker 2: you're in line, and uh it's hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, beautiful setting.
Speaker 2: You didn't get a better setting than the convention center
Speaker 2: in San Diego, but yeah, it's a lot. You just
Speaker 2: have to be all in for it. If you're not
Speaker 2: all in for Comic Con, it's no good. Uh, all right,
Speaker 2: did you want to.
Speaker 1: Do this other one?
Speaker 2: We had one guy that had thoughts on trans athletes.
Speaker 2: We were talking about the transathletes earlier. For those of
Speaker 2: you joining us, I just don't like the parents are
Speaker 2: screaming at kids.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care for it at all.
Speaker 2: And then we have people that are justifying parents screaming
Speaker 2: at sixteen year olds.
Speaker 1: Well they deserved it. So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you have freedom of speech, but you
Speaker 2: also have freedom to not be, you know, an adult
Speaker 2: acting like a child process your emotions. Let's uh, let's
Speaker 2: find the words. Probably not scream at children. Trumps on again, off, oup,
Speaker 2: hang on, wrong one, hang on.
Speaker 5: If I had a daughter, I would suggest that she
Speaker 5: boycott these competitions where there's transgenders. I mean, it's a
Speaker 5: no win for these young women that can't compete with
Speaker 5: the genetics of a boy. I mean, you can put
Speaker 5: lipstick on the boy, but it's not a girl. So
Speaker 5: just saying it's not gonna work, huh. And this is
Speaker 5: gonna end up tragically down the road.
Speaker 2: I think it is. I'm afraid it is gonna end
Speaker 2: up tragically down the road. And I don't think that's
Speaker 2: because you have trans athletes. I think it's because you
Speaker 2: have people bullying children. And as far as it's a
Speaker 2: no win, well, the trans girl that competed did get
Speaker 2: gold in one event and shared that gold with two
Speaker 2: other girls and got silver in the in the long
Speaker 2: jump event, So you can't really say it's a no
Speaker 2: win when she didn't beat them all.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't deprive my daughter of the opportunity to go
Speaker 2: win at the state track and field because of my own.
Speaker 1: Political leanings. I just wouldn't do it. I wouldn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you do what you want. It's your kid,
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't deprive my kid. How about this?
Speaker 2: Did you happen to see that there was a story.
Speaker 2: I'm shifting gears here. I don't want to talk about
Speaker 2: it anymore. Did you have to see the story about
Speaker 2: Elon Musk? They say that he was doing drugs during
Speaker 2: the campaign. What New York Times the mind bending article.
Speaker 2: As Elon Musk became one of Donald Trump's closest allies
Speaker 2: last year, leading raucus rallies and donating two hundred and
Speaker 2: seventy five million to help him win the presidency, he
Speaker 2: was also using drugs far more intensely than previously known.
Speaker 2: According to people familiar with his activities, The consumption went
Speaker 2: well beyond occasional use. He told people he was taking
Speaker 2: so much ketamine that it was affecting his bladder, which
Speaker 2: is a known.
Speaker 1: Effect of chronic use.
Speaker 2: He took ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms, and he traveled with
Speaker 2: a daily medication box that held about twenty pills, including
Speaker 2: ones with the markings of the stimulant adderall according to
Speaker 2: a photo of the box and people who have seen it.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys, I'm stunned.
Speaker 2: I'm shocked that the guy who would wear a hat
Speaker 2: on top of the hat and get on stage and
Speaker 2: jump and scream and carry on the way that he
Speaker 2: did would have any history of drug use.
Speaker 1: That seemed like perfectly normal behavior to me. So I
Speaker 1: just that is, uh, that is wild that he was
Speaker 1: using a lot of drugs. I assume we're all on drugs.
Speaker 2: I mean, isn't there a point where you see people
Speaker 2: and you go, okay, well there's some drug use going
Speaker 2: on there.
Speaker 1: He's at it.
Speaker 2: Before I'd profen always you can just oh yeah, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, right, Like, hey, here's a fun drug I
Speaker 2: just started this week, Saw Palmetto. Yeah, yep, it's supposed
Speaker 2: to help with prostate function. So I also carry around
Speaker 2: a little pill box with about twenty pills a day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, saw Palmetto.
Speaker 2: I've got my multi vitamin, I've got my blood pressure
Speaker 2: medication I got Yeah. Yeah, I guess I'm like Elon
Speaker 2: Musk minus the ketamine and adderall and the jumping on
Speaker 2: stage with a chainsaw. Yeah, but otherwise exactly the same.
Speaker 2: The thing with Musk, though, is that when he did
Speaker 2: all that stuff, we didn't immediately go what is he on?
Speaker 2: Because he's an eccentric person to start with, you know,
Speaker 2: so it's like, well, Elon Musk is being crazy, but
Speaker 2: that's what makes him a genius, and you go, nam
Speaker 2: Elon Musk, Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: Is an eccentric and he's had some really genius things.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, I don't want to take it away
Speaker 2: from anything that he's accomplished.
Speaker 1: But the behavior that we saw was that was a little.
Speaker 2: Beyond just eccentric. That was just that was drugs. That
Speaker 2: was straight up drugs.
Speaker 1: Do you buy the black eye? Oh?
Speaker 2: That he told his son to hit him. I was
Speaker 2: playing with my son. I told him to punched me,
Speaker 2: and they hit a lot harder than you'd think.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't know who tells their kid to punch him.
Speaker 2: That's weird to me. Also, I'm not surprised though that
Speaker 2: if the black eye. It wouldn't surprise me if the
Speaker 2: black eye did come from the kid. And I say
Speaker 2: that because the kid is a bit undisciplined as well.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a four year old who Musk brought
Speaker 2: to the Oval office during a press conference. It was
Speaker 2: running around and telling the president pretty horrible things during
Speaker 2: live television. You're an fn idiot. A four year old
Speaker 2: is telling the President of the United States, the commander.
Speaker 1: Of the free world, you're an fing idiot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it would not surprise me if the kid
Speaker 2: has discipline issues and would punch Dad in the eye.
Speaker 1: That does not surprise me at all. That's what Bratts do.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: They misbehave and if they're not corrected, then they'll continue
Speaker 2: to misbehave.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that part doesn't surprise me at all.
Speaker 2: So Trump was asked about Elon Musk in this press
Speaker 2: conference because you know, there was the kind of the
Speaker 2: falling out, and then Musk said, Wow, I've not really
Speaker 2: saved the country any money, but I sure have saved
Speaker 2: all of my investors a lot of money.
Speaker 1: They just haven't made squad.
Speaker 6: What started as a political romance is now wrapping up
Speaker 6: with a little less love. Elon Musk's one hundred and
Speaker 6: thirty days as the head of the Department of Government
Speaker 6: Efficiency came to an end today, well short of his promises,
Speaker 6: and just days after he criticized President and Trump's.
Speaker 1: A big beautiful Bill.
Speaker 6: Trump and Musk sharing the spotlight today at the White
Speaker 6: House as Musk ends his role as a special government employee.
Speaker 2: But while okay, then they get on more stuff blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, and then Trump gave him a gold key
Speaker 2: and then he said it's great, and uh, we're gonna
Speaker 2: save a bunch of money and YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: Does this strike you as.
Speaker 2: Odd though the times that they've had the joint press
Speaker 2: conferences in the Oval Office, Trump is set at the
Speaker 2: resolute desk and Musk has stood by, sometimes with this
Speaker 2: kid crawling all over the president, sometimes just nearby, wearing
Speaker 2: his T shirt because of the respect for the office.
Speaker 2: I know Trump is sitting, and of course Musk wearing
Speaker 2: a baseball capital time. I know that Trump is sitting
Speaker 2: behind the desk, and I think he's saying, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: sit behind the desk and look presidential.
Speaker 1: But there's just something about the tableau of it.
Speaker 2: Where Trump is. I mean, he likes to lean right,
Speaker 2: he likes to slouch. We've seen that everywhere he goes
Speaker 2: he slouches, and which is fine. He can slouch aw
Speaker 2: you want, I'm slouching as week, But the tableau of it,
Speaker 2: and I know Trump is like, I'm the president.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit behind the resolute desk.
Speaker 2: This makes me look presidential, and then I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: him standing there and it's gonna look.
Speaker 1: Like he's an aid.
Speaker 2: But somehow Musk upstages him. Part of it has to
Speaker 2: do with Trump's posture. Part of it anything has to
Speaker 2: do with just the way that Musk stands and commands
Speaker 2: an energy in that room that that Trump doesn't have
Speaker 2: when he's sitting there and then looking up at Musk.
Speaker 2: This is a really odd thing that I noticed. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I haven't heard anybody else point that out,
Speaker 2: but it just seemed really strange to me. Just seemed
Speaker 2: really odd. All right, the Tariff's on, Tariff's off. That
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Speaker 2: More stimulating talk Chris Merrill. This week there was a
Speaker 2: much ado as a number of code talkers disappeared from
Speaker 2: military websites. The History of the code Talkers, which used
Speaker 2: to be on the the Department of Defense website, vanished.
Speaker 2: If you're unfamiliar to the code talkers, especially the Navajo
Speaker 2: code talkers who the most famous. All the code talkers
Speaker 2: were used throughout history, Chalk, Taus, Comanche, Navajo, others, but
Speaker 2: the Navajo code talkers basically developed a code in World
Speaker 2: War II using their own language that the Germans couldn't decipher.
Speaker 2: They couldn't get to it. Now, if you'll recall the
Speaker 2: Germans were very very good. Listen, I'm getting old, and
Speaker 2: I realized about the time I hit forty, suddenly all
Speaker 2: those World War II documentaries on the History Channel became
Speaker 2: fascinating to me. You'll recall the Germans of World War
Speaker 2: Two were very very good at their codes, at disguising
Speaker 2: their messages. We couldn't break it. In fact, it was
Speaker 2: only after the development of the Enigma machine that we
Speaker 2: were able to do.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: It was basically the first computer. We allowed for the
Speaker 2: machine to UH to decipher it. Because the Germans had
Speaker 2: a way of changing their code every day, it seemed
Speaker 2: to be a.
Speaker 1: Completely random pattern. So suppose you're.
Speaker 2: Doing one of those ciphers in the in the newspaper
Speaker 2: or online or wherever you do it, and uh and
Speaker 2: and and you have to try to figure out what
Speaker 2: it says. And you're and you're trying to break the code,
Speaker 2: and you're going, Okay, well this squiggly line this I
Speaker 2: figured out that this squiggly line that equals a D.
Speaker 2: So then you go through all the cipher and you
Speaker 2: find all the squiggly lines and you go, that's a D.
Speaker 2: And then from there you try to figure out the
Speaker 2: rest of it, right, that's it. Well, imagine if every
Speaker 2: time you got to one the whole thing changed. The
Speaker 2: whole thing changed.
Speaker 1: So Alan Turing was the guy.
Speaker 2: He's kind of considered to be the father of modern
Speaker 2: computers because he had this notion, rather than trying to
Speaker 2: get people, who are it crosswords and ciphers in the paper,
Speaker 2: why don't we get a machine that can figure out
Speaker 2: these codes and it'll be able to do it faster
Speaker 2: than we can now. They didn't have the kind of
Speaker 2: machinery and chips that we did, obviously, because they didn't
Speaker 2: have computers then, so it was a very mechanical system.
Speaker 2: But he made it work and they were able to
Speaker 2: use this Enigma machine to decipher the code, and that
Speaker 2: gave us an advantage on the Germans.
Speaker 1: On the American side, we didn't have any of this.
Speaker 2: We didn't worry about Germany's technological superiority to decipher our codes.
Speaker 1: Because what we did is we took a dead language.
Speaker 2: Well to the rest of the world anyway, the Navajo
Speaker 2: were still using it, which is why it was known.
Speaker 2: We took a language that the rest of the world
Speaker 2: didn't know. They had no idea, they didn't know what
Speaker 2: these different sounds meant. They didn't have any interpreters. They
Speaker 2: didn't have so they're trying to decipher a language with
Speaker 2: no key. There was no well, this sound means this
Speaker 2: letter or this phrase could POTENTI mean this. They couldn't
Speaker 2: decipher it for squat And it was all based on
Speaker 2: that ancient not ancient, but that Navajo language which had
Speaker 2: been around for for hundreds of years or more. So
Speaker 2: the Navajo stepped up. The Navajo soldiers spoke in this language.
Speaker 2: The Germans couldn't decipher it, and the way that we
Speaker 2: were then eventually able to decipher their codes using our
Speaker 2: computing expertise, they couldn't do it. So in many ways
Speaker 2: it was the code talkers who gave us an advantage
Speaker 2: in the war, including iwo Jima, six code talkers. Iwo
Speaker 2: Jima sent more than eight hundred messages with zero errors.
Speaker 2: Part of the reason that we had the Navajo in
Speaker 2: the military was because there was an emphasis on diversity
Speaker 2: in the military. They wanted diversity because they knew there
Speaker 2: was strength and having people with different backgrounds who could
Speaker 2: bring different skills, and in the case of the code talkers,
Speaker 2: they brought an entire language that nobody else could speak,
Speaker 2: and it was the most effective encryption that anyone had
Speaker 2: during World War two. And again, as I mentioned, we said,
Speaker 2: this happened in the past, Choctaw, World War one, Comanche,
Speaker 2: also in World War two. We've seen this happen before.
Speaker 2: So President Trump signs the DEI Executive Order. We're gonna
Speaker 2: get all diversity, we're gonna get all equality, we're gonna
Speaker 2: get all inclusion and anything that promotes those things out
Speaker 2: of the military. And so they said, we're gonna scrub
Speaker 2: all the websites of any of this stuff. And what
Speaker 2: they do, they scrubbed the website. At least ten articles
Speaker 2: that mentioned the code talkers disappeared from the US Army
Speaker 2: and the Department of Defense websites.
Speaker 1: Well, as one might expect, all hell broke clues.
Speaker 2: People were not very excited about the fact that we've
Speaker 2: just decided to erase history because we're afraid it might
Speaker 2: be too inclusionary, so we don't learn our history.
Speaker 1: What could possibly go wrong?
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Speaker 2: more stimulating talk talkback question.
Speaker 1: Today, we had.
Speaker 2: A story about former inmates at San Quentin that went
Speaker 2: back to play an alumni baseball game against current inmates,
Speaker 2: and I thought, if I got out of San Quentin,
Speaker 2: I ain't going back no way.
Speaker 1: So what is someplace that you would never go back
Speaker 1: to visit?
Speaker 2: We've had a few on here on One guy said
Speaker 2: he would never go back to Flint, Michigan.
Speaker 1: I'll blame him.
Speaker 2: Another dude said he would never go back to a
Speaker 2: Timeshare presentation. Amen, A men, my friend, So what is
Speaker 2: someplace you would never go back to visit? If you're
Speaker 2: on the iHeart radio app, just cleik on that talk
Speaker 2: back and let us know what if someplace you would
Speaker 2: never go back to visit?
Speaker 1: And then obviously why why would you not go back there?
Speaker 2: There was an interesting story that popped this week and
Speaker 2: an interview was done with the CEO of Anthropic, which
Speaker 2: is one of the AI companies that's out there, and
Speaker 2: he's basically warning a bunch of white collar jobs are
Speaker 2: going to go away.
Speaker 1: And now I was reading and he was talking with
Speaker 1: an Axios reporter.
Speaker 2: Axios is continue to follow up on a lot of
Speaker 2: these AI stories this week. They've really been the forefront
Speaker 2: of reporting on the AI here of late, and they said,
Speaker 2: the US government needs AI expertise and dominance to beat
Speaker 2: China in the next big technological and geopolitical shift, but
Speaker 2: they can't pull it off without the help of Microsoft, Google,
Speaker 2: Open Ai, Nvidia and others. And so we're seeing emerging
Speaker 2: of Washington and Silicon Valley. They say, driven by necessity
Speaker 2: and fierce urgency. So much so then that they they
Speaker 2: use the phrase codependent superstructure. The government and the the
Speaker 2: tech companies have formed a codependent superstructure in the race
Speaker 2: to dominate AI, and that strikes me as really odd.
Speaker 2: I know that we have government that supports certain businesses,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter if you're a Republican or a Democrat.
Speaker 1: It happens.
Speaker 2: And then when the Democrats do it, the Republicans say
Speaker 2: that we shouldn't be using government to pick and choose winners.
Speaker 2: And then when the Republicans do it, then the Democrats say,
Speaker 2: I can't believe that the Republicans would do this to pick.
Speaker 1: And choose winners.
Speaker 2: And of course there's always winners that benefit typically that party,
Speaker 2: whether that's labor unions, or whether that's big business and
Speaker 2: low taxes, blah blah blah. Right, We've seen this play
Speaker 2: out time and time again, but we are seeing a
Speaker 2: lot of subsidies going towards some of these companies, or
Speaker 2: you could say investments. Axos points out that the White
Speaker 2: House has cultivated a deeper relationship with America's AI giants,
Speaker 2: championing of five hundred billion dollars stargate infrastructure led by
Speaker 2: Open Ai, Oracle soft Bank, which is out of Japan,
Speaker 2: and MGX from the United Arab Emirates, all of these
Speaker 2: different things to try to give us a leg up.
Speaker 1: On the AI race.
Speaker 2: And yet I think to myself, if we had, if
Speaker 2: we had the government that is trying to push forward
Speaker 2: this the efforts in AI in a public private partnership
Speaker 2: that benefits the private sector, how is that different than
Speaker 2: what China does. China is a capitalistic communistic government, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's communist capitalism. Chinese Communist Party does this.
Speaker 2: They invest and they work with the companies and then the
Speaker 2: companies make money. But in this case, the Chinese government
Speaker 2: gets some of the proceeds. That's really the difference is
Speaker 2: that if the company in China that's working with the government.
Speaker 1: Let's say TikTok.
Speaker 2: If TikTok makes a bunch of money because with some
Speaker 2: of the investments that the Chinese government has made, then
Speaker 2: the Chinese government says, cool, that was our investment.
Speaker 1: We want something out of it.
Speaker 2: Right in the US, the government makes an investment and
Speaker 2: then the company takes off, but the government doesn't really
Speaker 2: recoup that. Right, we give subsidies, or we give tax breaks,
Speaker 2: we give we give certain advantages, tax abatements, call them
Speaker 2: right to these companies because the companies need to help.
Speaker 1: We want to.
Speaker 2: We want to, we want to win this battle. And
Speaker 2: then you know, okay, well what does the government get
Speaker 2: out of it? And they go nothing, but the CEOs will,
Speaker 2: and then the CEOs go, we built that, right. It
Speaker 2: has been a big political argument. You didn't build that,
Speaker 2: Oh yes I did. I built this from my hands,
Speaker 2: you know, with my bare hands. Like no, literally, the government,
Speaker 2: the government gave you a break so you could build it. Oh,
Speaker 2: I built this from scratch all by myself. I played
Speaker 2: by the rules. You did play by the rules, but
Speaker 2: the rules were definitely in your favor. Because if I
Speaker 2: go out there and I say I want to start
Speaker 2: a business, I think the government should give me a
Speaker 2: tax break. The government goes, well, how big is your business.
Speaker 2: The bigger the business, the more likely you are to
Speaker 2: have some help from the government. It's just the way
Speaker 2: it works. But what do you owe back to the government.
Speaker 2: The smaller your business, the more you're going to owe
Speaker 2: the government. I don't get that tax break because my
Speaker 2: business is too small. Small business in the backbone of America.
Speaker 2: It pays all of our taxes so that we can
Speaker 2: give those taxes to the big companies that really are
Speaker 2: going to do great things. Right, That's how our system works.
Speaker 2: I find it to be flawed. Not a big fan
Speaker 2: of it. I understand how we got here. You're just
Speaker 2: not a big fan of that. And moreover, I'm even
Speaker 2: less of a fan of the dishonesty around it, Like, no,
Speaker 2: we're not, Yeah you are.
Speaker 1: Just call it what it is you are.
Speaker 2: So either we're all on a level playing field and
Speaker 2: we're all going to pay the same taxes, or we're
Speaker 2: not at a level playing field and just admit it.
Speaker 1: That's what it is.
Speaker 2: So what this CEO of Nthropics said is basically, quit
Speaker 2: sugarcoating what's coming mass elimination of jobs across technology, finance, law, consulting,
Speaker 2: and other white collar professions, especially entry level gigs.
Speaker 1: Entry level white collar roll. That's what you need. Entry
Speaker 1: level white collar.
Speaker 2: That's a cush job until the cuts come and then
Speaker 2: you're the first one out. But let's just call it
Speaker 2: lower to middle management. This is from Anderson Cooper talked
Speaker 2: with the Anthropic CEO on CNN. Dario, you've said that
Speaker 2: AI could wipe out half of all entry level white
Speaker 2: collar jobs and spike unemployment to ten to twenty percent.
Speaker 1: How soon might that happen?
Speaker 7: Just to back up a little bit, you know, I've
Speaker 7: been building AI for over a decade, and I think
Speaker 7: maybe the most salient feature of the technology and what
Speaker 7: is driving all of this is how fast the technology
Speaker 7: is getting better. A couple of years years ago, you
Speaker 7: could say that AI models were maybe as good as
Speaker 7: a smart high school student. I would say that now
Speaker 7: they're as good as a smart college student and sort
Speaker 7: of reaching past that.
Speaker 1: I really worry, particularly at the entry.
Speaker 7: Level, that the AI models are are very much at
Speaker 7: the center of what an entry level human.
Speaker 2: Worker would do. The problem is, what is an entry
Speaker 2: level human worker? Because I can tell you this, I'm
Speaker 2: not impressed. I'm not impressed by AI yet. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm impressed by where it's going. I'm impressed by the concept.
Speaker 2: I'm impressed by the proof of concept. I'm impressed by
Speaker 2: some of the early functionings. I'm not impressed with a
Speaker 2: lot of it because hallucinations still run wild. Hallucinations are
Speaker 2: still a big issue. Well right now AI is hallucinating
Speaker 2: case law, which is one of the reasons that people
Speaker 2: are worried about it. In fact, there was another poll
Speaker 2: that came out that says the public is not so
Speaker 2: cool on how quickly things are moving. Yeah, it's great
Speaker 2: for punching up my resume. It's really neat for making photos.
Speaker 2: But maybe it's moving a little too fast. They might
Speaker 2: have a point, they might just be scared. We'll do
Speaker 2: a little analysis on the sociology of it next. Chris
Speaker 2: Merril M six forty WeLive everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2: Good evening, my friends, Chris Merril kfi AM six forty,
Speaker 2: U demand anytime the iHeart Radio app All right our
Speaker 2: questions and I wear is one place that you would
Speaker 2: never go back. I had a story about former inmates
Speaker 2: at San Quentin that went back to play an alumni
Speaker 2: baseball game at their Field of Dreams, And I say,
Speaker 2: you never get me back there? No way. If I
Speaker 2: got out, I'm not going back. I'm not doing a visit.
Speaker 2: So where's someplace you would never go back?
Speaker 5: Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, the gateway to Dollywood and a multitude
Speaker 5: of other tourist traps. I've never seen traffic so bad
Speaker 5: and so many tourists per square foot. It's horrible and
Speaker 5: you can't enjoy it. I don't know what people see
Speaker 5: in that place, but it's just absolute congestion, beyond anything
Speaker 5: LA traffic has ever seen. Wow, and worth hundreds of
Speaker 5: miles of driving out of the way. It's not worth it,
Speaker 5: and I will never return and avoid it at all cost.
Speaker 1: All right, you guys ever been to Pigeon Forge? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: good talk? Nope, nope?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So now not a glowing review. I
Speaker 2: guess we don't go to Pigeon Forge.
Speaker 1: Ever. After twenty nine years of living in California and
Speaker 1: Huntington Beach, I said, I never moved back to Nashville, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: where I grew up. Wow.
Speaker 2: A couple of people for Tennessee today. A lot of
Speaker 2: people don't like Tennessee.
Speaker 1: All right, well guess where I I am? Oh, thank
Speaker 1: you NYSA. Oh you made me break a promise.
Speaker 2: Oh, Gavin Newsom made you big. Jerry Brown didn't make
Speaker 2: you break that promise. It took the Newsom to do it. Okay, Larry,
Speaker 2: all right, what else?
Speaker 8: Good evening. I would never go back to Catalina, Ireland.
Speaker 8: That was the most boringest place I've ever went to.
Speaker 8: I have no desire to ever go back. Wow, Thank
Speaker 8: you guys, have a great evening.
Speaker 1: Thanks you too.
Speaker 2: She's not going back to Catalina while she wasn't there
Speaker 2: during the wine mixer. That's the big one, s all right.
Speaker 1: Hey Chris, Hey, I thought it was kind of weird.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with everything you're saying today. That is weird.
Speaker 8: I guess the show is still got a lot left,
Speaker 8: so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: And look out, Angel Martinez. Here comes Lucy. Heell a,
Speaker 1: Hi Kayla. Okay, that got creepy fast. Hi Steve, he
Speaker 1: loves Hi Kayla. Hey Steve, Hi, Kayla, Steve, you got
Speaker 1: a little thing with him? You have a little something
Speaker 1: going on there Hi Kayla, Hi Steve. At the end
Speaker 1: of the talk backs, he always gives me a personal message.
Speaker 1: Yeahs always great. He's a good guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, it sounded a little creeper to me,
Speaker 2: but if you're cool with it, then.
Speaker 1: Hi Kayla, thank you. Jesus, that was brig me. That's
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have nightmares. Thank you. Yeah, I don't blame Hey.
Speaker 1: It's kind of weird. I agree with everything you said tonight.
Speaker 1: So Hi Kayla, thank you. I was talking about the
Speaker 1: AI here.
Speaker 2: More than three quarters of Americans now want companies to
Speaker 2: create AI slowly.
Speaker 1: They say, slow it down.
Speaker 2: Here to tell us more about it, is the story
Speaker 2: read by AI Outstanding.
Speaker 9: Most Americans want AI progress to slow down.
Speaker 1: Now that sounds natural, doesn't it. All right, but then
Speaker 1: there's kind of a giveaway when it comes to AI, which.
Speaker 2: Is why I think that we are still it's still
Speaker 2: not quite ready for prime time.
Speaker 1: All right, here's what he said. Let's try this from
Speaker 1: the beginning, from the top.
Speaker 9: Most Americans want AI progress to slow down, poll finds.
Speaker 1: Poll finds. Okay, all right, so we're reading.
Speaker 9: This as tech giants race to develop AI. Seventy seven
Speaker 9: percent of Americans say they prefer companies take their time
Speaker 9: and get it right, even if it delays breakthroughs. According
Speaker 9: to the twenty twenty five Axios Harris Poll one hundred,
Speaker 9: only twenty three percent support rapid development at the risk
Speaker 9: of mistakes. The causes sentiment spans generations from ninety one
Speaker 9: percent of boomers to seventy four percent of gen Z.
Speaker 2: Wow, even gen Z three quarters say let's let's pump
Speaker 2: the brakes. But the concern is that China is going
Speaker 2: to get ahead of us. Don't worry is if we're not.
Speaker 1: Ahead of AI, China will get ahead of AI. And
Speaker 1: then I then I mean, I mean, then.
Speaker 2: Uh uh, they would, they would, they would, They would
Speaker 2: be able to replace their workers first.
Speaker 1: So I mean you got to win.
Speaker 9: Despite pressure from CEOs and investors to lead in a
Speaker 9: global AI race, the public remains skeptical.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Many fear job loss, misinformation, and irreversible early design flaws.
Speaker 9: The poll suggests Americans have learned from past tech missteps
Speaker 9: and want slower, more responsible innovation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're also in an exciting period with with AI.
Speaker 2: Part of the reason that we were that were moving
Speaker 2: so quickly is that it's exciting, it's new. We want
Speaker 2: to see just how far this can take us? Right,
Speaker 2: just how how much can we do with AI? It's
Speaker 2: kind of exciting for for the kids these days, like
Speaker 2: Kayla Kila. You probably we don't remember not having the internet,
Speaker 2: do you you do?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, that's fun. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then you also then remember like the early days
Speaker 2: where the web pages were really rudimentary compared to what
Speaker 2: we have today, right, where it was angel Fire and
Speaker 2: what was the other one?
Speaker 1: Angel Fire was one of them, there was what was
Speaker 1: the other? What was it?
Speaker 2: Well? Earthlink was a provider, right, I'm just thinking of
Speaker 2: the web page designers like Geo, geolinks or something and
Speaker 2: angel Fire and you could make your own website. Right,
Speaker 2: So why are we so afraid of AI? Because ultimately
Speaker 2: when we say slow down, it's because we're worried about something.
Speaker 1: Right. One of the things that motivate is fear and greed.
Speaker 2: And so you've got some people that say, boy, I
Speaker 2: want to see how far this can go. I want
Speaker 2: to see what AI can do. I just want to
Speaker 2: see how prosperous we can be with AI. Right, that's
Speaker 2: the greed. But what what what we what causes us
Speaker 2: to say, slow it down, let's exercise some caution.
Speaker 1: Is the fear side of us.
Speaker 2: And that's that's a that's a basic emotion that is
Speaker 2: a survival mechanism, the fear, all right, And we have
Speaker 2: a lack of understanding when it comes to AI. We
Speaker 2: don't know what it's capable of, good or bad, and
Speaker 2: the unknown is scary. And most of us don't understand AI.
Speaker 2: We don't understand the limitations, we don't understand the abilities,
Speaker 2: we don't even understand.
Speaker 1: How it works.
Speaker 2: And I was reading some more on that today too,
Speaker 2: and a lot of it is basically just predictive, right
Speaker 2: in the same way that you might be using a
Speaker 2: you might be sending a text it, or you might
Speaker 2: be writing an email, and all of a sudden, your
Speaker 2: your your Outlook or your Gmail starts to try to
Speaker 2: predict what the next word would be, Right, That's kind
Speaker 2: of how AI works, but just on a grant, like
Speaker 2: what's the most likely answer based on what the next
Speaker 2: word would be? And if this is the most likely
Speaker 2: next word, what would the next most likely word be?
Speaker 2: And that kind of thing, And that's kind of how
Speaker 2: AI builds. It's uh, it's responses. But we have a
Speaker 2: lack of understanding and that leads us to worry about
Speaker 2: word case scenarios. I mean, it's the same reason that
Speaker 2: we don't know. You know, before we had telescopes, we
Speaker 2: didn't know what was in the stars, and then we
Speaker 2: were worried about what could come and destroy us. We
Speaker 2: don't know what is in outer space. We don't know
Speaker 2: if there are other life forms, which makes for great
Speaker 2: Hollywood movies where you've got.
Speaker 1: The war of the World or some sort of an
Speaker 1: alien invasion Independence Day.
Speaker 2: We worry because we don't know, and the fear comes
Speaker 2: from that blindness that we have. And then we get
Speaker 2: bad news headlines, right. We get the headlines about the
Speaker 2: hallucinations of AI. We get the headlines about kids using
Speaker 2: AI to cheat all over the place. We get warnings
Speaker 2: from insiders like the gentleman from Anthropic who says this
Speaker 2: is going to create a bunch of layoffs. We're gonna
Speaker 2: see high unemployment, right, and we also be honest, we've
Speaker 2: had bad experiences with some previous tech. It's like all
Speaker 2: the spam mail that you've been getting, and I've just
Speaker 2: been getting some more.
Speaker 1: In fact, here.
Speaker 2: I've got a new one how to spot phishing emails.
Speaker 2: Now that EI is cleaned, AI excuse me has cleaned
Speaker 2: up the typos, which means AI will be used by
Speaker 2: bad actors. And nowadays it doesn't feel like everybody's trying
Speaker 2: to take advantage of you, right, They're all trying to
Speaker 2: steal your information or your money. We're getting incessant spam
Speaker 2: and fraudulent emails, and we see how that tech is
Speaker 2: being used for evil, and AI will make that worse.
Speaker 2: Bad actors will use AI to try to take advantage
Speaker 2: of you, but AI may also help you identify those
Speaker 2: threats more quickly. Chris Merril k I AM six forty.
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