1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Alien Earth 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:11,160 season one finale spoiler's view. I am still the Canadian name. 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: Here us down. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 3: I'm joined by I am the series finale Kirkland. Pats 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,000 are enjoying my nice Look at that just glorious cup 6 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:21,480 of water. 7 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's looking. Lots of condensation on that cup. For 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,079 the al I'm. 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,079 Speaker 3: Losing all the all the liquids to the condensation. 10 00:00:29,559 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Nice. 11 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 4: I'm the hide and seek quick quick there revision two. 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: Yes, ladies, gentlemen, we are here to talk about It's 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,920 been a journey, long time waiting for the show. 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: Get it been a rocky road. Is the did they 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,520 land the plane? 16 00:00:47,679 --> 00:00:50,719 Speaker 1: You know, many finales we've been through and we've seen 17 00:00:50,759 --> 00:00:53,560 the best of the best, and we've seen actually we've 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,600 seen the worst sports. I think Secret Invasion you could say, 19 00:00:55,719 --> 00:00:57,880 is like the worst Marble finale ever. So you know, 20 00:00:58,039 --> 00:01:00,719 where does this rank and all the stuff, where's ranking Aliens? 21 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:01,039 Speaker 2: I don't know. 22 00:01:01,039 --> 00:01:03,119 Speaker 1: That'd be another conversation for another time. We're not gonna 23 00:01:03,119 --> 00:01:06,400 do that tonight because just a fresh wound. But as always, 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,840 look at the feeds, lots of stuff dropping this week. 25 00:01:09,599 --> 00:01:11,599 Speaker 2: Me and Taylor are gonna be reviewing gen V later on. 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: There might be I've talked to dem about this. There 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,799 could be a bonus side quest tomorrow if there review, 28 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,120 some reveal some Wolverine stuff, so TVD. 29 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: But then we are what do we got. 30 00:01:23,519 --> 00:01:26,079 Speaker 1: Oh, Marvel Zombies tomorrow. That's gonna be lots of fun. 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,359 Peacemaker on Thursday. I will have a trust told you 32 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:31,079 on Wednesday, so look out for that. 33 00:01:31,159 --> 00:01:32,079 Speaker 2: And then maybe one. 34 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,239 Speaker 1: Friday, I'll explain why I had to delay some stuff, 35 00:01:34,239 --> 00:01:36,159 but I'll at least get you one there because. 36 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: There's some good trailers stuff to talk about. 37 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: And then yeah, lots of good stuff on the feed. 38 00:01:39,719 --> 00:01:42,959 There's literally eight Episodestro maybe more. Eight episodes are dropping 39 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,480 this week. I actually on the gimmick. Taylor just did 40 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,840 a definitive history career or something of your gaming journey. 41 00:01:49,879 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm not listened to. 42 00:01:50,599 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Inside this, but yeah, when I saw that invocation my phone, 43 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:55,319 oh my god, it's Taylor like dying or something. 44 00:01:55,359 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: That's what it feels like. It feels like a post 45 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,239 mortem cast. But go listen to it. I'm sure it's good. 46 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,000 I hope it's good. I don't know. I don't know. 47 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,560 Taylor's story. Was it good, Taylor? 48 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:06,319 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was. It was deep, it was heavy. 49 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 6: Uh, And I unlocked a lot of core memories that 50 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:12,520 I actually had forgotten about ball Cool does balling all 51 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,280 the times I was beaten for getting caught playing video 52 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:17,639 games late at night past my bedtime. 53 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: Teaching lesson sun but yeah, and then lots of exclusives 54 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:24,800 right now, later on this week or tomorrow recording the 55 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,520 White Men Can't Jump retrospective. We got the Tron retrospectives 56 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,599 that are there for the Patroon producers will be there 57 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:31,800 for Face two and up in a bit. 58 00:02:32,439 --> 00:02:33,759 Speaker 2: We got the Halloween. 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,199 Speaker 1: Pool starting soon, So a big thank you to our 60 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,240 patron producers Aaron Braden, April Darkness, Jack Grant, Sam super Bad, 61 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:42,280 Mike follows Me, Sixth Night, Jemmy Writer, Charlie Rendell, Cocktail, 62 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,080 Clay Johnnoch, and Sam Green. 63 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:45,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to vote on what that. 64 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: There's some really good spicy Halloween picks this year, and 65 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,639 luckily now the ones I've just recently watched, which always happens. 66 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,719 So if you want to vote on what we're gonna review, 67 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,919 go check that out. Soon there'll be a Christmas one 68 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,360 Bogey one. Tons of fun stuff. 69 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,319 Speaker 2: So yeah, lots of good stuff and we just after 70 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,400 not this past week and two. 71 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: Obviously Kirk was not there for that, but it was 72 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,759 a that was a really fun one, Criculan, even though 73 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,439 you were there, it's worth listening to. We went, we 74 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:09,319 went on some tangents with the patrons. We're talking aliens, 75 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,360 we're talking divorce situations. 76 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 5: All. 77 00:03:12,199 --> 00:03:14,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff, so uh, check out that. 78 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: But kirkham Patzer, because you haven't been on it a 79 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,080 little bit, I'm gonna start with you, especially because that name, 80 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:23,639 you know, because I will be clear for people it 81 00:03:23,719 --> 00:03:26,719 is nowhere doesn't say a serious finale on Disney Plus 82 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,759 on social media. 83 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: But it's my push back to the title of this 84 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,479 episode because I saw Alien Earth season one finale and 85 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,400 I'm like, oh right, this is like attention season one. 86 00:03:37,719 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: When I then we pull it up, I swear when 87 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,439 I went to the main page, it says the season 88 00:03:41,479 --> 00:03:42,039 one finale. 89 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: I will confirm, but there hasn't been confirmation for anything 90 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,560 beyond that, right, there's not. 91 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,719 Speaker 1: But there's not been non confirmation, so all it says 92 00:03:49,759 --> 00:03:53,120 Alien Earth season finale now streaming, So not serious so 93 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,280 as right now there's in season finale. 94 00:03:54,919 --> 00:03:57,039 Speaker 3: You threw the season one in there for a little extra, 95 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,759 little extra bazazz and that that upset me, just just 96 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,080 think with the potential of where we could be going 97 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,479 on that, because uh yeah, I really didn't love the 98 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,879 show by the end of it. I think, like where 99 00:04:10,919 --> 00:04:13,439 we are in episode eight, like just going into it, 100 00:04:13,599 --> 00:04:15,840 I had some hopes of what we were gonna be 101 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,920 touching upon, just just with like specifically the Eye Alien. 102 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:22,439 I feel like that the Eye Alien kurseh and then 103 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,240 just seeing like tying up of loose ends like that. 104 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,920 That was what I was looking forward to in this episode. Uh, 105 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,319 not so much of like oh, how is this gonna 106 00:04:31,319 --> 00:04:33,839 save the show for me? Or like oh how like 107 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:37,040 I'm just so invested in this character development, Like what 108 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:38,680 are they gonna do for the season fan out like 109 00:04:38,959 --> 00:04:42,199 nowhere near for that is just okay, do something to 110 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:47,800 make me give a little bit of bonus marks, I think, 111 00:04:47,879 --> 00:04:50,480 I think in my mind, and unfortunately I really didn't 112 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,160 get there. I think I was able to have enough 113 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,360 enjoyment for the ride of like, Okay, the show does 114 00:04:57,439 --> 00:05:01,120 look good. I think there's great performances, for sure, there's 115 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,639 certain shots with the lighting that's just crazy. And it's 116 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,639 just like, man, like this is this is a well 117 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:09,680 made show of like like the practical effects and everything, 118 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:13,560 and like like visually some spots with some some some 119 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,959 CGI aliens that don't look the greatest. But I feel 120 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:17,560 like for the most part, it is a really good 121 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,519 looking show, and I can't appreciate that at least sitting 122 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:22,079 there for like a forty five minute episode, like, at 123 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,800 least it looks good. Unfortunately, like some of just the 124 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:29,519 character decisions and and dialogue, it just yeah makes me 125 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,399 want to pull my eyes out and sometimes and replace. 126 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,399 Speaker 2: It, like it looks you know, it looks good and everything, 127 00:05:35,439 --> 00:05:36,040 but yeah. 128 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 3: It looks good, but mute on. But then when I 129 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:46,600 have volume on, Yeah, I'm just so baffled by like 130 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,680 what happened at the end, really unsatisfied of an ending, 131 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,879 like maybe they're they're hoping to pick this up in 132 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:56,680 season two. I don't want a season two and the 133 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,879 fact that it's like you know, spoiler free terror to 134 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,319 but just like what they ended up doing by the end, 135 00:06:02,399 --> 00:06:07,600 I was just so upset, Yeah, not not hyped, so 136 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,120 so upset with what just didn't end here. Maybe I'll 137 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:17,120 say that. So, yeah, I I never am gonna rewatch 138 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,279 the show, even if there is a season two and 139 00:06:19,319 --> 00:06:22,920 I get roped into that that review, I'm sure I'll 140 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,160 join by volunteering, just just because that's what I do 141 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:28,639 to myself. But I wouldn't rewatch season one for this. 142 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,040 I yeah, I just really don't care for this story 143 00:06:32,079 --> 00:06:37,199 and uh don't really like the canonical annotations that this 144 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:39,639 this provides for the for the universe of Alien, if 145 00:06:39,639 --> 00:06:43,199 that makes any sense at all. But yeah, I'll leave. 146 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,959 Speaker 2: Mister Alien predator boy last. 147 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: I remember a couple of weeks ago when Kirkland said 148 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,759 that very same statement, like I'll never rewatch this, and 149 00:06:50,759 --> 00:06:52,120 that was that the point where I was liking the show, 150 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,720 and I was like, oh, really like never, because I. 151 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:54,639 Speaker 2: Didn't think it was that low. 152 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: Obviously, the last few weeks have been more rocky, and 153 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,600 then last week, to me, it was a big nose dive. 154 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:01,959 And then this week, instead of pulling up, we just 155 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,279 fucking crashed. We just crashed and we died. 156 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:06,959 Speaker 3: And that was a ship from episode one that's. 157 00:07:09,079 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: We need a flashback episode to save us. 158 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:16,079 Speaker 1: But yeah, I it's it's tough and non spoiler of us, 159 00:07:16,079 --> 00:07:18,120 but it doesn't end in a way where to me. 160 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,439 I talked about this just recently with like interviewing the 161 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,759 Vampire Hannibal, where it's like, oh, every season ends and 162 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:26,319 there's always a few things left open, so you're going 163 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:26,759 to carry on. 164 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: That'd be great, but. 165 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: You could stop watch big Oh any season Hannibal, you 166 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,759 could stop watch like that's the end of the story. 167 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:33,680 That kind of makes sense right there, right, like it 168 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,839 sometime might be bleak, but it's like, well, that's the 169 00:07:35,879 --> 00:07:38,120 way it goes. The villain wins right where this I 170 00:07:38,879 --> 00:07:42,920 guess technically you could, but I feel like there's too 171 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:45,240 many open ended things and just even little things, not 172 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:47,160 even big spoilers, And it doesn't end on like a 173 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,120 cliffhand and no one like has a gun to someone 174 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,480 so that you better do this on faceback. 175 00:07:50,519 --> 00:07:51,319 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't end that way. 176 00:07:51,399 --> 00:07:54,839 Speaker 1: So like it does end, but it just, man, the 177 00:07:54,959 --> 00:07:57,839 ending just is such a thud, like just such a 178 00:07:57,879 --> 00:08:01,600 womp wamp. It's just multiple things that are going on here. 179 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,839 I can't wait to ask kirklem about one thing in particular, 180 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,199 some ending of the storyline. 181 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm sorry to interject, I totally forgot Christian 182 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,759 Slater's in our background right now, and I just noticed 183 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,759 them and like that was me watching this episode. 184 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:17,399 Speaker 1: I feel that that face that was me literally from 185 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,800 minute one because something happens like oh they did this, okay, cool, yeah, 186 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,160 and for me, this is really disappointing. And to go 187 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,040 full circle, I was just saying, with Kirkland's point, I'm 188 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:26,680 the same we were. 189 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: I'll never watch this again. There. 190 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:30,319 Speaker 1: I think the problem is because it had a lot 191 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,600 of potential, even though when we start I said, I 192 00:08:32,639 --> 00:08:34,200 don't know how they're gonna do this as a series, 193 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,720 some of the things they introduced, and okay, I'm intrigued here, 194 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,440 but it really just felt like at the it feels 195 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,759 like these last two episodes were similar to like a 196 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:45,200 Marvel finale where everything was very rush even though on 197 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,799 like a Marvel finale where they close things off, they 198 00:08:47,879 --> 00:08:50,720 left multiple things open, so they rushed it, and I 199 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:52,519 feel unsatisfied, you know, at least with. 200 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: Like want of vision, like oh this is really rush. 201 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: But you get this great seal of vision and the 202 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,039 kids go away and all this stuff and want to 203 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,960 sit under an ext trajectory right where this just feels 204 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:02,440 like I'm like this does not feel like a finale 205 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,559 at all. This just feels like, oh, there's another episode 206 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,759 next week, right, but there's not so clear they're wanting 207 00:09:06,759 --> 00:09:07,440 a season two. 208 00:09:07,919 --> 00:09:09,279 Speaker 2: I would still review this because. 209 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: We've had fun enough, we like the lore, and obviously 210 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,480 these have done very well for us on a business side, 211 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:15,519 so definitely, if it happens. 212 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:15,759 Speaker 2: We're there. 213 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:19,919 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it had a lot of potential, 214 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,879 but anything can have potential. It's all about the pacing, 215 00:09:23,919 --> 00:09:26,559 the execution, and what you do with said potential. And 216 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:28,559 for me, it's a big disappointment because I have not 217 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:30,639 seen Fargo. But as I said, big no, Hally Fank 218 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:33,879 is a llegiant and that show that's a show. Season 219 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:36,000 one ends where wow, that's a big moment and some 220 00:09:36,039 --> 00:09:38,320 stuff that you could carry on, but you could just 221 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,159 end it right there. 222 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,759 Speaker 2: So kind of disappointing. 223 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: Not sure if it's a ham thing, a Disney thing, 224 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,399 an alien thing or all connection or you know Fox 225 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,679 who Low twentieth century whatever they call themselves now. 226 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: Like I just I don't know. It just something feels 227 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:53,320 off about the series. 228 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: And I'm just waiting for like three weeks from now 229 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,799 some report to come out like oh, they're doing this, 230 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:57,720 but they went this direction. 231 00:09:57,799 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. It doesn't feel like a justic situation. 232 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,720 Shouldn't get me wrong. 233 00:10:00,759 --> 00:10:04,919 Speaker 1: It just feels a little undercooked, especially, which is odd 234 00:10:04,919 --> 00:10:07,000 because this show, I feel it was announced a long time. 235 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: I felt like we were waiting and waiting. 236 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,759 Speaker 1: Wasn't a show like oh it was announced one year 237 00:10:09,799 --> 00:10:11,399 and out the next was like, okay, the rushes out 238 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:12,639 to get this out for a streaming service. 239 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,799 Speaker 2: Like no, I feel like this thing's been bacon for 240 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,559 a little bit here marinating. 241 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's still some good visuals. I think performances 242 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,960 for the most part, are still good. I think there 243 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,240 was like a couple of scenes in here I might 244 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:28,919 have enjoyed, but overall I was just either. 245 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,399 Speaker 2: Disliking what I saw or scratching my head. So yeah, 246 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,120 big disappointment here with this show. I definitely am with 247 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,360 curcling that I don't need more. 248 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: If they were to say we're doing a different alien thing, 249 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:43,480 whether that is a spin off of one of the 250 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:45,559 movies or something else or something, you know, not a 251 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,200 TV show, but something like Prayer Killers Killers, where it's 252 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,519 something that's kind of anthology, maybe I'd take that. 253 00:10:50,639 --> 00:10:52,879 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was not a fan of this, and 254 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,480 I do not need season two. 255 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,759 Speaker 1: And you know, I guess if we get season two, 256 00:10:56,759 --> 00:10:59,240 hopefully there's like a massive improvement. But this did not 257 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,159 make me want more. This felt very much like Original 258 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,039 Sin to me. When that ended, I'm like winning any 259 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,519 day for them to say it's not canceling. 260 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: Oh okay, you know, speaking Ferry Morgan right there, just cool. 261 00:11:09,759 --> 00:11:11,799 I don't gotta worry about that. And that's kind of 262 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:13,279 where I am now. 263 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so not not exactly what I was hoping for 264 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,240 at the end of all things here with the Alien Earth. 265 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,159 Speaker 2: So Taylor Field, what did you feel of a Alien Earth? 266 00:11:25,159 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: Because I feel like you've been a bit more posmous 267 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:29,200 but definitely feeling some murkiness on it. 268 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, I know what my favorite episode is, 269 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:36,759 and I know where a lot of the show for 270 00:11:36,879 --> 00:11:38,879 me is good. 271 00:11:38,879 --> 00:11:40,039 Speaker 5: And hitting the right notes. 272 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,879 Speaker 6: But in terms of the final episode here, nah, it 273 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:46,879 didn't do it for me. 274 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 5: And I was. 275 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 6: I was just kind of like taking online and just 276 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,440 like taking it up online, looking and see what people 277 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,759 were talking about. And one guy he was like, oh, 278 00:11:57,879 --> 00:12:00,080 I'm quite satisfied with how this went. They wrapped of 279 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,919 everyone's stories right, yes, yes, idea and then directly yeah, 280 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,840 but he's just talking about how everything was wrapped up, 281 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,279 the storylines were all concluded properly. 282 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: Everything. 283 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 4: I'm thinking, what was he watching because there's still. 284 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 6: So many things that it's it's I guess you could 285 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,120 look at it like the storyline was wrapped up, but 286 00:12:20,159 --> 00:12:22,320 not in a good way. There's a few characters in 287 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:29,120 here where the story uh just transitions, the narrative transfers 288 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,600 into a new storyline, but you don't ever get anything 289 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:36,159 concluding that person's story, and I mean, what story and 290 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,000 the things that they set up these weird scenes, these 291 00:12:38,039 --> 00:12:41,360 weird moments where there's pauses or they're giving inconspicuous looks, 292 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,200 or they're clearly up to their own things, their own 293 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,360 weird kind of objectives and goals. But then it's just like, okay, 294 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,320 we're just gonna like shut that down and it's just 295 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,399 going to be transitioning into this, like, oh, we're just 296 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,919 gonna end it just like this. You don't have to 297 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,320 worry about anymore because you're getting this abrupt ending to 298 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,559 this character story. It's like, that's not great story telling, 299 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,480 and I don't like that, And it just feels like 300 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,600 it's a it's a turn off, and everything that we 301 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:08,399 got in this episode to me felt like this was, 302 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,240 as Travis your famous word, the pin ultimate. 303 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 5: This feels like a pin ultimate episode and that we. 304 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 6: Should be getting one more to kind of show how 305 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,519 the season is going to end. This is not a 306 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,879 great season ender in my opinion. I don't think it's 307 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,679 it's it's not ideal. I don't want more. 308 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 4: I don't want more seasons focused on what they created here. 309 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: I don't silver line like, well, you know they could 310 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:35,960 do this in this. 311 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 6: Wow, there's there's that ship is sale like it's too late, 312 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:42,600 and I think again, my favorite episode is the flashback 313 00:13:42,639 --> 00:13:44,360 where we're on the ship and yeah, you got people 314 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,600 being stupid and doing making stupid decisions, but at least 315 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:48,919 to me, that felt the most alien to me, and 316 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,799 I enjoyed the whole setup and everything just falling apart. 317 00:13:51,919 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 5: I really really like that. 318 00:13:53,879 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: And so here we are with this, So you can 319 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,480 kind of watch that episode as like a movie by itself. 320 00:13:58,159 --> 00:13:59,039 Speaker 5: And I totally will. 321 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,799 Speaker 6: I absolutely we'll go back and rewatch that episode because 322 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,919 it's freaky, it's terrifying. You get a lot of really 323 00:14:03,919 --> 00:14:06,799 good ship in that episode, So I enjoy it. But yeah, 324 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,320 where we came to with with this though this finale 325 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,240 it's yeah, it's not great. 326 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:14,159 Speaker 5: It is not great. 327 00:14:14,279 --> 00:14:18,639 Speaker 6: And uh yeah, I keep seeing more and more you know, 328 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:19,759 cool pread or stuff. 329 00:14:19,799 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 4: Bad Lands went up, thinking, hey, you know this is 330 00:14:22,519 --> 00:14:22,840 in a. 331 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 6: Time where I thought Predator would kind of be going 332 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,639 above Alien. I never really thought that there ever was 333 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:31,159 a time when Preader was kind of going above Alien. 334 00:14:31,159 --> 00:14:31,759 Speaker 5: I feel like Alien. 335 00:14:31,799 --> 00:14:34,679 Speaker 4: Owaga the other way, what did I say? 336 00:14:34,799 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: You said in time Preader was going above Alien? I 337 00:14:36,759 --> 00:14:38,399 would have never thought there's a time Predator is going 338 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,679 above Alien. Yeah, okay, so you're just saying, so you're saying, 339 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,399 for what's happening right now, you'd have never seen happen 340 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,559 that Preadtor is like the main dog, right Yeah. 341 00:14:47,679 --> 00:14:50,679 Speaker 4: I always and it's probably just me. I always felt 342 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,960 like Alien. Yeah. 343 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 6: I always felt like Alien was kind of that franchise 344 00:14:56,279 --> 00:14:58,120 that was always just kind of like up and maybe 345 00:14:58,159 --> 00:14:59,519 on like a like to the side little bit, but 346 00:14:59,559 --> 00:15:01,480 it was always kind of like top shelf up there 347 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:03,519 in terms of like an ip compared to Predator. 348 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: Aleen Well, I'd say, because Alien one and two like 349 00:15:06,559 --> 00:15:09,600 as much as people love the Predator or sorry, not 350 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,559 the Predator as much as people just love Predator. 351 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:12,279 Speaker 2: The Arnold one. 352 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,399 Speaker 1: I think some people might classify that even as like 353 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,200 a big it's a B level action movie, but because 354 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,879 of some of the effects and someone like Arnold got 355 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:24,000 elevated to an A movie, right, But that easily was 356 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:26,200 some wrong directing, wrong cast. That could have been just 357 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,919 like another eighties Oh there's a monster here where Alien 358 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,639 is definitely hailed as like this inspired this person, this 359 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,960 inspired that, And then even for Aliens, right, every time 360 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,240 someone makes a sequel that's a little bit different than 361 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:37,559 the first. 362 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,519 Speaker 2: Oh oh we wanted to pull in Aliens. 363 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: You know, so, I'd say because of those two, even 364 00:15:42,159 --> 00:15:45,159 what Predators now, I don't think Preder can ever top Alien. 365 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:48,879 Lest to make some film right now that's gonna inspire generations, 366 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:50,679 I don't think that's gonna happen. I think, of course, 367 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:52,720 inspiration can be found everywhere, but I think that's why 368 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:56,519 Alien will always be on top, like legacy wise. But hey, 369 00:15:56,519 --> 00:15:58,480 you gotta see badlines first though, right, so you can 370 00:15:58,919 --> 00:16:02,960 I'd say, right now, there, I don't know, it's tough 371 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,039 because I guess Killer of Killers is in there. 372 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:05,279 Speaker 2: Right. 373 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: So I feel like if we're doing like a win 374 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,000 loss record, Predator's like two. 375 00:16:08,919 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: Oh, and Alien's like a one and one. 376 00:16:10,559 --> 00:16:12,159 Speaker 1: But you don't know, badlines would come out and do 377 00:16:12,159 --> 00:16:13,919 the same thing this is doing, right, I doubt it, 378 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,960 but you never know. Right, people love beneath this and 379 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,519 a lot of people did not love Covenants. So we 380 00:16:19,559 --> 00:16:21,720 can see Track Deburg easily fumble the ball and then 381 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:22,759 you're like, oh, what's happening. 382 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:23,799 Speaker 2: Preda and Alien their back. 383 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: They've both had some bad runs back together, you know, 384 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:28,480 and then Alien does have some sort of wrongless sequel 385 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,440 cooking somewhere no fetti. 386 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,519 Speaker 5: But somewhere. Yeah, Ridley, Ridley though. 387 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love that? Is that it? 388 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:39,519 Speaker 5: Yeah? That's it? 389 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take our break, we're gonna get 390 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,320 into this and then we'll be right back. 391 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: And we're back. 392 00:16:47,159 --> 00:16:49,279 Speaker 1: So I want to start with this guy because Harry's 393 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:51,360 someone like, oh things would be revealed. That just kind 394 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,080 of ended kersh Man. What a big disappointment that was, 395 00:16:55,159 --> 00:16:57,440 Like we talked about why is he doing this? 396 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: What's he up to? 397 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,759 Speaker 1: You get to don't really know why, and maybe season 398 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:03,759 two to reveal that, or maybe season two is just 399 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:06,319 gonna get that. This character is always like, oh things 400 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:08,440 are going on, because I always will say, at least 401 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,119 with David, he's a chaos machine, but he wants to create, right, 402 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,759 He's tired of being held down, so you know why 403 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:18,000 he's doing that ash right, he's the first one in 404 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,920 uh yeah, you know why he's working for Waylan Utelli. 405 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: Really, I feel like, and even I can't remember why, 406 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,799 but I feel like there was. 407 00:17:25,799 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: A whole flashback of why when on a Ryder was 408 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,680 doing what she was doing, like it was explained to 409 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:32,839 us why this synth was here and helping out. 410 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,279 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure though, right. 411 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: Because you're probably right, I don't remember it. 412 00:17:36,839 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: Where this just is just again it's tough because I'm 413 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,519 sure they might go, well our plans do season two. Yeah, 414 00:17:42,519 --> 00:17:46,039 that's great, I guess, But I just feel this is 415 00:17:46,279 --> 00:17:51,160 so I won't say unearned. It just feels empty now, 416 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,200 you know, to the point where I want just you 417 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,200 don't gott to reveal the whole kid in Kaboodle Me, 418 00:17:55,319 --> 00:17:57,440 but just gives a little bit something. But now we 419 00:17:57,559 --> 00:17:59,480 just got a fight scene, his back off broken and 420 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,680 I he's still alive. But that was to be really 421 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,920 disappointing because when when Marrow was coming, Oh, here's what 422 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,640 we talked about, like, is reveal where he's behind the scenes, 423 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,400 and will you tell you he's gonna talk to this 424 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,720 guy about his own stuff. Seems like maybe he was 425 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,119 helping him, but not like all this stuff we theorize, 426 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,119 not even that wasn't answer, wasn't even hinted about it. 427 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,799 Just he was there on a computer, had a fight 428 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:21,759 scene and then he was bleeding milk everywhere, and that's it. 429 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: That was Kursh for the finale. You know. 430 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 6: It's just I thought he killed Marrow, to be honest, 431 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,039 and I gotta get that more mad. 432 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 5: I was like, what the fuck is this? 433 00:18:29,079 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: For season two? 434 00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:30,039 Speaker 6: Yall? 435 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:34,519 Speaker 3: We choked him out? Yeah, yeah, why didn't he Why 436 00:18:34,559 --> 00:18:35,200 didn't he kill him? 437 00:18:35,279 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, right, we have no reason why he did. 438 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 3: No idea tune into season two that hopefully will never come. 439 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:41,519 Speaker 6: Yeah. 440 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: I mean it's so bizarre, like just specifically for for 441 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,400 well not even just specifically for Kursh especially, you know, 442 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,200 like we're gonna talk about it, but like at the end, 443 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,480 the fact that we have like all of our villains 444 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,400 air quote villains in a room together and none of 445 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,240 them are like dispatched at all, Like they're literally just 446 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,960 just there like in a cage. It's just so crazy 447 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,720 to me, and like there we had time in this 448 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:11,599 episode to have a great one on one between Moreau 449 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:14,680 and Kersh or have a great one on one between 450 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,839 the eyeball alien that's like possessed with someone like like 451 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,599 actually speaking or something, because we kept alluding to that, 452 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,200 and we didn't get any of that. Uh, we see 453 00:19:23,279 --> 00:19:27,079 him take over the fucking rotting husband's body on the beach, 454 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,240 but like that's that, like he just wakes up like 455 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,079 like Jason and that that's absolutely it. We get nothing 456 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,720 for that, even though again like been excited to see 457 00:19:35,759 --> 00:19:37,119 that the season, Like, come. 458 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: On, does the I know I harpen this is not 459 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,799 the most important storyline at all, but like does the 460 00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:43,359 wife who know her husband dead, like. 461 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 3: Know she was married? Like she didn't say his name once, 462 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,400 like I think the last probably last time she saw him, 463 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,759 that was like the last time she even acknowledged. 464 00:19:56,079 --> 00:19:58,079 Speaker 1: That's when he was last time, Like you can stand 465 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,759 by this and she, oh, I do the work I 466 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:01,759 thought when you have to die fan that oh for sure, 467 00:20:02,759 --> 00:20:06,359 just easy horror movie TV making one on one is 468 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:09,440 that's when the wife's finally gonna see this thing's going to. 469 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: See him and I think it's her husband. 470 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,559 Speaker 1: Then get too close and too but I thought. 471 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: Because they're all alive, like all of our main players 472 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,880 are in a cage right now that they can just 473 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,400 pull it from. 474 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: That's the only dude that died was that guy right there, 475 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,559 the husband. Like, I guess we lost one. Yeah, we 476 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:30,079 lost We didn't give a funk about Isaac really like whatever, 477 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,160 So yeah, I thought for sure it's happened, But no, 478 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,559 he just uh gets the eyeball, and I guess that 479 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,359 actor can return of the dude the season two. He 480 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,279 still gets to have some work to. 481 00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: Walk around for this, but for him. 482 00:20:42,319 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that scene when they tried to put it on 483 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:48,319 hermit man that that wasn't great either, because there's where. 484 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:49,079 Speaker 5: I did like that. 485 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,319 Speaker 3: It was a great setup. 486 00:20:50,519 --> 00:20:52,599 Speaker 1: I like like the lead up fine, even though the 487 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,000 guys in the room, I I can't get there actually 488 00:20:57,039 --> 00:21:00,680 just because like he's a deal. You might like he's 489 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:07,599 just speaking like he's Nicholas, and it's like it's funny. 490 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:10,279 I watched like Dracula today, like the Keanu Reeves, Gary 491 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:12,240 Old the one and that one's even worse because like 492 00:21:12,519 --> 00:21:14,319 literally as like a sword, he like cuts his hand 493 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,480 like blood you see it. 494 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: Like he's just like, what the fuck you doing? Keanu run? 495 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,640 Like why you hear? But that's what the butler guy 496 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,039 felt like. 497 00:21:20,039 --> 00:21:23,799 Speaker 7: He just felt like it will be quite fruitful for 498 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,000 you and your sister, like be like just he like 499 00:21:28,519 --> 00:21:30,240 the fact that he I don't like. 500 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,559 Speaker 1: Okay, sure, he was like very cautiously, He's like, okay, whatever, dude, 501 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,920 I guess whatever is best for my sister. Like he 502 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,680 just turned into fucking like James Frankel from Pineapple Express, 503 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,519 no urgency whatsoever. My problem with that scene is kay 504 00:21:41,599 --> 00:21:44,119 fights the eyeball and everything, but as he runs the 505 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,119 eyeball jump and he like turns, He's like. 506 00:21:46,319 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: Oh why you turn him? 507 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:47,599 Speaker 1: Bro? 508 00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: Why you turn it at all? Just to set up 509 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,559 like this CG I thing can only do X, Y 510 00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:51,839 and Z. 511 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, all this, uh all this sucked to me, 512 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,799 you know, like it did. 513 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: None of it worked, none of it. 514 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:02,559 Speaker 1: You know, at times the eyeball creature wasn't looking great 515 00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:04,440 and yeah just again lead nowhere. 516 00:22:04,519 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah cool, it's fair, fair points. I I feel like 517 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:12,960 at this point I've seen so many dumb decisions from 518 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,880 like every character in the show, including like the flashback episode, 519 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,960 Like these characters are just so fucking stupid in this show. 520 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:25,240 So him, you know, making this decision, we've we've we've 521 00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:28,359 ragged on him multiple times this season of like why 522 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,279 does he think he can get his sister off this 523 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:32,880 this island, Like he's been denied like nine times, Like 524 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,960 like it's not happening, dude, and he's like a chance 525 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,440 scoping out the boats, you know, Like like this guy 526 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,000 is so stupid, he just doesn't register. So I am 527 00:22:40,039 --> 00:22:42,200 not surprised that he's just going with his butler guy 528 00:22:42,279 --> 00:22:43,200 and and going to get. 529 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,559 Speaker 2: That she was killing my friends. 530 00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: Your friends, those are your friends. They were they were 531 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,200 gonna like hunt you and your sister down, and like 532 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,519 they put you in prison. They put them both in. 533 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,079 Speaker 2: Like whatever, what was this company called again? Progy? They 534 00:22:56,079 --> 00:22:58,319 put you in Progy prison. And he's like, but they 535 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,079 were she was killing my friends, like kill you so 536 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,079 stupid kill him. 537 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 3: But I'm like, Okay, we're gonna get the eyeball alien 538 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,799 and a human here, so this is exciting. And they 539 00:23:08,839 --> 00:23:10,400 fucking talk blocked me. 540 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: Exact. 541 00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:15,319 Speaker 3: No, I didn't you know you got an alien in 542 00:23:15,319 --> 00:23:18,640 the human eyeball, I didn't get words spoken at all. 543 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,680 Boy Caviar is such a waste of a character. I'm 544 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,400 so mad that he's still living. 545 00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: They try to drop like that he's on the spectrum 546 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,759 thing like like in the nice. 547 00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: Dropping. 548 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:38,319 Speaker 3: This is because you have mental disabilities. This is why I. 549 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: Just like, this isn't needed right now, This isn't bad anything. 550 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,440 And you're just like and you didn't even get that 551 00:23:44,519 --> 00:23:46,440 Kirk wh and you didn't even get the boy taken 552 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,160 out by dude. 553 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,759 Speaker 3: I know, I know when when the the zeno like 554 00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:52,119 pops out and we have like the crazy strobe lights 555 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,039 going on, like this is it? Like I literally stopped 556 00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:56,400 what I was doing. I'm like, hey, this is it. 557 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,400 This is what I've been waiting for all season. This 558 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,039 is gonna be my show, my show's favor at all. 559 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:04,799 Speaker 1: And that's a funny thing too, Like if this show 560 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,200 gets canceled, which I'm sure you want to be, gets canceled, 561 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,440 you'll never get to see. 562 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,319 Speaker 3: That guy's just alive in Cannon or not even head 563 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:13,279 canon regular canon where Ripley's at. 564 00:24:13,759 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 5: This guy is probably gonna. 565 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,799 Speaker 1: Oh man, that moment when uh uh is it, Wendy. 566 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. She's like they're like, well, what are we do next? Wendy? 567 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,039 She just we rule and they go to and he's 568 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:30,359 like like he's like laughing, like. 569 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 5: He's as hard as a fucking rock. 570 00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: Up. Here's the thing. 571 00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: He's like the jama bottoms too. You know, that doesn't 572 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:37,680 hide anything. 573 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,559 Speaker 1: There are some characters where you can do that that 574 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,200 even when they get bested, they kind of laugh because 575 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,000 it's like a joker well done. 576 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like well done. Even to me, someone like a. 577 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: David character would react and kind of like, oh, someone's 578 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:54,480 acting in a certain sort of nature. But this guy 579 00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:57,279 has given no like he he doesn't want them to 580 00:24:57,319 --> 00:24:59,759 evolve for themselves. He wants to evolve so he can 581 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,119 just so it's like I can speak new languages. Like 582 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,200 he's pure selfish. And so when they I don't know 583 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,319 what this laugh was, but the laugh to me maybe 584 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,240 like he was almost like proud, right, like look at 585 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,000 these things growing. 586 00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:11,799 Speaker 2: That was never really it. 587 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: And so if that was the laugh that they intended 588 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,759 that to me, either with acting or the direction of it, 589 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:17,759 like oh laugh like this, but. 590 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 2: That's not warranted. 591 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,279 Speaker 1: This character didn't come off like that where they're just 592 00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:25,559 trying to push the medium forward for anything. It's like no, 593 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,519 and then there's just so much with the ADHD with 594 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,039 Man just to be like, yeah, my dad beat the shimmy, 595 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,160 I made a Droy and that killed my dad. And 596 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,640 then literally the next scene he's like, well, this is 597 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,880 the Droy something. It's like they should drop that like 598 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,880 early in the season. That's why I felt like it 599 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,359 was just. 600 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: They were told wrap everything up and they didn't. 601 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: But it just was like, why did you introduce this? 602 00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,480 Now you're gonna drop this anywhere else? And don't get 603 00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:49,799 me wrong, I kind of like that as a fun twist. 604 00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:53,200 But again, man, the eyeball scenes happening when he's about 605 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,640 to fight this guy who you know, was the joy 606 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,200 that he broke, like built like a dad figure. They 607 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,240 go to fight, no you staw any stops like oh. 608 00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 3: Man, I like she's just got you said that right now, 609 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,119 which like as it happened, I just got so mad 610 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,039 about that again because it's like, hey, we just literally 611 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,240 have god tear robots now, like like like this is 612 00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:19,519 just pinnacle of technology, these like five children prodigy like 613 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,000 he can if he's still in the Commander Sea Boy Caviar, 614 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,480 the leaders of Prodigy, which he isn't anymore, but like 615 00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:27,920 if he was, like there's no competition now, Like you 616 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,200 don't even need the fucking xenomorph, Like you don't need 617 00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:32,599 alien species. Now this is the pinnacle. Like they can 618 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,680 control everything, they could stop, they could speak to the Zenos, 619 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,079 they can control the Aliens. It's just what that is 620 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,720 introducing to like the scope of what the Alien franchise 621 00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:44,759 is and the fact that this is a prequel, and 622 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:48,640 also the fact that they're not dead or anything. Like 623 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,359 like the last fucking words of the show. If we 624 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,839 don't get season two is now we rule like that 625 00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:55,599 that is just that's cannon now like two years before 626 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,519 the events of Ripley and Alien, like, fuck, I hope they. 627 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 2: Just didn't have to. 628 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: Like they go to the boats and there's like no 629 00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:03,359 gasoline and they're just like drowned. 630 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: You know, they're just stuck. They're just stuck on the island. 631 00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:10,839 Speaker 1: Boy, you know, they look they look at kersh and 632 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,079 he's like, why can't we get up this planet? 633 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:13,599 Speaker 2: And he's like. 634 00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:19,319 Speaker 5: But he's like, because it's back. 635 00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: I said that wrong. I said, what do we need 636 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,119 to say gasoline? But it's just again yeah and again. 637 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,000 I guess it's supposed to be what season two would be, 638 00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:29,519 but I yeah, there's. 639 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: Uh three what five to six synth kids and there's 640 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,240 two was e no more stick and control. 641 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I don't like any of this stuff. 642 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,279 Speaker 3: That's his name, Nathan, the running corpse with the eyeball. 643 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 2: And the brother too. 644 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: He's with her who gives provides nothing to the team, 645 00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,079 literally just just wines. 646 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 647 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, just because you mentioned the brother too that moment 648 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,759 Row is like, how does it to be be to 649 00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:05,680 be like a cyborg like with his fucking iron lung thing, 650 00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:07,599 like trying to like like like we're one of the 651 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,920 same now, Like what the fuck are you talking about here? Man? 652 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,200 Like again, a character that I was interested in all 653 00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:16,680 season and then this episode I'm just like, man, what 654 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,480 a what a stupid character? Like like just uninteresting. And 655 00:28:20,519 --> 00:28:23,720 they introduced so many cool seeds with him, with like 656 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,799 like the tie to young Utahni to like the fact 657 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,799 that he's just a sydeboards that the things with his daughter, 658 00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,079 like they gave him so many layers and then like 659 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,400 just to round out, well, I guess it's not round 660 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,559 out because he's part of the fucking Petrie dish with 661 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,640 all the other villains. At the end, he's in that 662 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,160 bird cage with everyone else, so he's still a player. 663 00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:46,319 He can come back for next season if they want 664 00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:50,960 to do that. But just disappointing, disappointing end of that character. 665 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,319 Speaker 2: Do you have anything to say on anything we come 666 00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:57,400 here with. I don't know. We went to a lot 667 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,720 there around bound. 668 00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: We've thrown all our complaints out at once, but anything 669 00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:04,920 that darged mind, it's it's. 670 00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 6: With everything with boy Prodigy Cavalier, it's it is very disappointing. 671 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,359 I just let down with the Eye Alien too. I 672 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,000 really wanted to see some climactic kind of fallout with that. 673 00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:18,079 And again I love the scene where he is set 674 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,559 up in the hermits. Basically his first instinct is to 675 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:24,400 go inside that. 676 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:25,279 Speaker 5: That cage, and I really like that. 677 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 6: I like how the eyes trying to like open the handle, 678 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,599 and this thing's just like it's so fucking smart. 679 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 5: I really like that. 680 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 6: But I after the fact, yeah, just it gets like 681 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,279 Wendy saves the day, kicks it away, and then yeah, 682 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:40,720 it just goes way out into the fucking beach and 683 00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:47,839 finds this uh, this body decaying corpse take over, Like 684 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,079 that's a long ways away from the base, I'm assuming, 685 00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:52,160 and there's still a lot of people in the base 686 00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:53,319 that it could take over. 687 00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:55,759 Speaker 5: I don't know, It's just it's weird. 688 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: It just doesn't a couple of weeks. 689 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,319 Speaker 1: We have the alien when it like Alien Baby, when 690 00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:03,680 it like the Xenomorph get like popping up throughout the 691 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,720 like when they caught it. 692 00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 6: Remember, yeah, which is this doesn't make any sense. They're 693 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,319 not catching as Zeno babies. Doesn't make any sense. But 694 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,839 and again here I thought they were making some exclusive 695 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,200 like oh, the one alien here and Wendy have this 696 00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:19,279 special bond, but now just seems no, like she just 697 00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:21,880 any Zeno. Just in general, it's like, okay, she's got 698 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,319 control of them. Now we got two Zenos here. It's 699 00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:29,119 like this is just such a change of story, Like 700 00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:31,440 obviously we know that they're gonna wreck on some things 701 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,079 with the alien universe. And I try to hold onto 702 00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:35,200 the canon very loosely. I just look at alien stuff 703 00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:38,039 is really all anthology, same as Predator. But at this 704 00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:40,000 point it's like, Okay, whale Utani is gonna show up 705 00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:43,119 on the island. They're gonna get what the island's gonna 706 00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:45,400 blow up. No, they're gonna get the Xeno Corpse, they're 707 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,759 gonna get the other two Xeno morphs. They're gonna get 708 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,680 something out of this, for sure. I don't know how 709 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,519 you'd spin it otherwise, but uh yeah, it just it 710 00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:58,880 conflicts with Romulus because in Romulus they had to find 711 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,920 the body of the big chap in space from the Nostromo. 712 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:05,759 I don't know, it's just it's so annoying and it's 713 00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:09,400 it's bothersome, and I really feel like they could have 714 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,359 done something with boy Cavaliers Cavalier. 715 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 5: I don't know why they. 716 00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:18,799 Speaker 6: Needed to keep him alive like we've we've we've run, 717 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,920 Like they should have just run the course and they 718 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,880 should have had these characters grow and develop with him 719 00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:27,119 and then kind of learn, okay as they did, to 720 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,720 kind of stand up to him and put him in 721 00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:31,079 his place and just go from there. But they wanted 722 00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:32,960 to put them all on a cage. I guess it 723 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,400 works because like they're they're kiddy and they're doing this 724 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,920 because it's it's like very kiddy, like, oh, time out 725 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,720 for all you guys or something like that. 726 00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 5: But I don't know it. 727 00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: Yes, it's good for the moral companies. I don't want 728 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,279 to just like execute all these people. 729 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,759 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's tough because I feel like with the 730 00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:53,759 boy genius, either there's like unfortunately only two routes to 731 00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:57,039 go is either he's a smart to get him and 732 00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:58,920 the bad guys out of there, or there's like a 733 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,960 redemption arc. Now I don't see that there would be 734 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,400 a redemption arc, so I think it would be like 735 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,279 he knows there's some key or if you rewire this 736 00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:06,759 so you get to do like that's the only way 737 00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:07,160 I would think. 738 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: If he's just sitting there and he's like, oh and 739 00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:11,000 someone else gets some money, he's like, oh great, we're out. 740 00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:15,119 Speaker 1: Like, I don't know what else unless there's some sort 741 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,279 of way that with waylon Utani, he would like give 742 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,000 up a bunch of his stuff, Like maybe they would 743 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,160 use some of these things that happened on this island 744 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,599 to like blackmailm or something. I don't know, But again, 745 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,759 nothing i've pitched here sounds of interest. I think that's 746 00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:31,440 why when they made that like laugh at the end 747 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,599 when he's like proud of it, that was that character 748 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,200 that this character was the you eat him at the 749 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:39,359 end with the xenomar where you have Wendy kill him 750 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,960 or I guess Hermie got a kick in there. But 751 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,400 I think he's the And don't get me wrong, I 752 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,160 don't think that's a strong thing. I don't think he 753 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,640 was a strong archetype. And it didn't that Like I'm 754 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,079 not saying like, oh, if he would have got killed 755 00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:51,119 by Xenomore, this would have been a nine at ten 756 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,640 fin now I know, but it just would have been 757 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,200 like at least something where I say, okay, you did 758 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,160 that beat right, But yeah, it's just some odd choice 759 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,359 that even then too, when they locked up Moreau on 760 00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:02,200 the first time, and I get it they want to 761 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,079 cover subnetic arm, but they like give him Thor's hammer 762 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:08,359 on his fucking arm. So like when he gets out 763 00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:10,480 of he just beat the shit of anybody when he 764 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,920 was being that guy down, Like did he transform his arm, Like, 765 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,319 oh no, that's the thing that's supposed to withhold his arm, 766 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:17,440 Like there's nothing, like there's nothing like just like a 767 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,319 fucking like tag or something you can inject his arm 768 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:21,359 that just like turns it off. 769 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,599 Speaker 2: You know, it has to be like a big fucking 770 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,880 sledge hammer. 771 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,279 Speaker 3: Mallet, straight jacket, hannibal mask him, Like, I feel like 772 00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:30,319 there's a lot of things that you could easily do 773 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:30,799 but in. 774 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,799 Speaker 1: One of those cells that the aliens had, But no, 775 00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:36,240 they just give him a fucking like call dirty call 776 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,839 called dirty called melee perk. You get in a battle 777 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,079 pass and just like why, like, who's this gonna help? 778 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:44,799 Speaker 2: It helped him. 779 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: He killed those people and uh, you know, he's just 780 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,119 gonna kill everybody, and they didn't. He got locked up 781 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,599 as well too. He did tell at least uh what's 782 00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:54,279 his name, that he didn't hurt his mom. So good 783 00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:55,480 for the mom. She made it out. 784 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,839 Speaker 3: You know, if you tell him the truth, what do 785 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:04,519 you saying in that position? Row, I fucking killed your mom, dude, 786 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,240 like you you're not saying that line? 787 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,559 Speaker 2: Beat her to death with this. I went back over there, 788 00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:13,880 beat her came back. I had time for. 789 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 3: Oh man, I forgot to mention when you when you 790 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,639 brought up the the last sne with Wendy and she's like, 791 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,320 now we rule. I I as that scene was going up, 792 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,840 and all of our are like main whatever we're calling them, 793 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,760 villains antagonists are in that the bird cage. I like 794 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,840 paused and I noticed that there's five minutes left in 795 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,800 the show, and I'm like, unfucking real, Like, there's actually 796 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,199 not closing out any of these character stories. 797 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: That rock music hid well. 798 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: Even before the rock music hit and I pause it 799 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,920 and it was five minutes left. I literally just pictured 800 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,280 my head like the classic you know, I love the 801 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,639 Joe Biden meme. When I plays the Transformers credits, I 802 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:59,239 could like hear that song building up in my head, 803 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:03,119 and then actual rocks Like music came on. I'm like, man, like, 804 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,400 if they just use the actual what is it a 805 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,360 fallout boy or is episode song is liking Park Lina Park, 806 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,559 they should just use link a Park for this because 807 00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:13,440 it's just so fitting and I could at least use 808 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,639 it as a meme for that purpose. But now I'm 809 00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:19,840 just upset over that because yeah, just just crazy, just 810 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,599 crazy that they had literally all of the characters and like, yeah, 811 00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:25,840 we're just not going to end any of this, and 812 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,519 the fact that they're all alive. We can pick and 813 00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:30,599 chew it like helps the writers if we get a 814 00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:32,880 season two, because we can really pick from any character 815 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,679 on what we want to go down. We can kill 816 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,840 off whoever next season or just hold them on. Maybe 817 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,360 next season they don't. Maybe nobody dies and we just 818 00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:44,280 hold them in another bird cage. Yeah, so upset. I 819 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:48,719 also didn't really talk about like the lost boy children 820 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,159 or anything like that. I just really was not vibing 821 00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:55,199 with their Okay, we'll just burn down the whole castle 822 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,280 and that's that. Like it just seemed like any interesting 823 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,239 qualities characters had. I feel like it was just thrown out, 824 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,599 like in this episode, like even the ones that like 825 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,840 did bad ship, like fucking Stinky and Wrangle whatever the 826 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:09,679 fuck their names were. 827 00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:13,599 Speaker 2: It's not our fault, which is true. It wasn't his 828 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:14,800 fault because he didn't know right, so. 829 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 3: I would have been like, it was your fucking fault 830 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,960 actually in that place in the wrong time. 831 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: But he just said it when he said it's not 832 00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:24,039 our fault, because he's like, it's it's not our fault. 833 00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:25,559 Speaker 2: He's like, you're right, it's not our fault. 834 00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 3: And the guy was like, yeah, it's just it's these 835 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,760 guys fault and they're the enemies now, and you know, 836 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,360 it just seemed like, well, now we don't have to 837 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,800 cover anything that we that we build up towards and 838 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,519 then the season because and. 839 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: They didn't feel like the last week when the brother 840 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,920 shot her, I thought she was good. 841 00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they just showed up like pearl to the 842 00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:48,519 fucking well again, right even when I didn't even kill her. 843 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,119 Speaker 2: No, that's what I mean. 844 00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:52,119 Speaker 1: Like I talked for like I can't remember. There's one 845 00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:54,199 of the episodes that you weren't anchoring me interior talking about, 846 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,760 because it was the scene with that therapy scene, right 847 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,719 when she gets and goes to killer, Like, well, clearly 848 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,880 that's trajectory that because she's holding her down, at some 849 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,960 point she's gonna snap and kill her. And then when 850 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,239 she was killed last week, I was like, oh, no, 851 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,079 I guess that was wrong. And then this week you're like, oh, yeah, 852 00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:10,599 here we go. They're storytelling one on one. They're gonna 853 00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,079 pay that off now, just creepy spy on blocks in 854 00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:16,119 the Cage's like okay, cool, sure, you know, it's like 855 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,599 it's not awful, but it's just again like this character 856 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,760 who's literally given us nothing. 857 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 2: They gave us this fucking husband's subplut. 858 00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: That didn't need to be there, Like this character, I 859 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,679 legitimately think you could just remove out and put most 860 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,760 of stuff on the husband that died and you'd be 861 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,840 completely fine. 862 00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: Just make them a scientist slash therapist. 863 00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: You're good to go. You save on an actor rate, 864 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,400 you give someone else a bit more lines. There's nothing here. 865 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,079 Haven't married his fucking self. I don't care, like there's 866 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,039 have his wife, just be a phone call and he 867 00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:47,760 does the voice on the other side, like like, there's 868 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,239 nothing here that this character is needed for, and I 869 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,159 just like, man, I just I don't. 870 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 5: I don't. 871 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: I don't get it. 872 00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: Again, it's just, yeah, I guess I don't want the 873 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,800 kids just to kill these people. 874 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,679 Speaker 2: But then if you don't go that road, it has 875 00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:04,000 to be something more entertaining. Then I guess. 876 00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just locked a burger cage and the Xeno 877 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,079 Wars are gonna watch over them. 878 00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: And again, same thing. I just in fact, these two 879 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:10,760 Zinos are just chilling, hanging out. 880 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,519 Speaker 1: And there's a couple of lines too, which is just 881 00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:17,880 I get what they're going for, but I didn't because 882 00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:20,800 she's talking about She's like, well, I can remember what 883 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,000 she says, this brother set up Lyne, but she's like, 884 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,639 you know, humans blah blah blah, and the aliens, you know, 885 00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:27,559 they don't think like that, you know, and then the brothers, 886 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:30,440 well they're they're predators, and you know they're after us, 887 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,199 that they're after you, and it's like, okay, I guess. 888 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,039 Don't get me wrong. I thought what the brother did 889 00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:36,639 last week. 890 00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:38,679 Speaker 2: Was shitty, but at least he was I guess he 891 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,320 got a few reasons. 892 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: They're my friends, and then he was trying to protect 893 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,800 the sisters, like, okay, that at least makes sense. We're 894 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,559 some of these other Like, I don't think you can 895 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:48,440 compare Brother to the other humans that are making these decisions, right, 896 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,599 and we've even seen kersh right, so it's not like okay. 897 00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:55,760 Imagine if Curs's reveal was, hey, I helped you with 898 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,119 this thing getting the kids in the bodies, and what 899 00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:00,000 you guys did actually was really fucked up. The way 900 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:01,320 you treat them as fucked up. So I want to 901 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,440 fuck you guys over you know, synth androids for life. 902 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,440 He didn't, so for her trying to like do the 903 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,800 whole like, well, humans are really bad. Yeah, so the 904 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,079 fucking robot over there like he's so it doesn't it 905 00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:15,920 doesn't work the algory they're trying to make it. Even then, 906 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,039 I know I'm not trying to defend a corporation here. 907 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: But when he's when they're like, well, we should be 908 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,320 able to go, and he's like, well you don't like 909 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,480 I own you, and they're like, you know, you don't 910 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,920 know us, Like, yeah, he does. 911 00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:28,519 Speaker 1: You would all be dead in the fucking ground with nothing. 912 00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:29,920 Right now, I'm not saying. 913 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 3: They like all ill with cancer. I forgot that. 914 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,639 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the person wasn't shit, he didn't take advantage. 915 00:39:35,679 --> 00:39:37,679 I get that right, and I'm saying to break out right, 916 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,519 But the way to write that is there should have 917 00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:42,800 been some sort of twist or something there. But it's 918 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,599 not like, literally, he gave you life, so there should 919 00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:48,039 be something a bit more for when the turn happens. 920 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,119 They're making it seem like, let's say, in a situation 921 00:39:51,159 --> 00:39:52,880 because they tell muse dad right, like, they're making it 922 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,880 seem like his dad created this, his dad died and 923 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,320 then this boy. Because the way this character's played, he's 924 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,320 just like inherit everything. That's what it feels like, right, 925 00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:02,480 So it would be different if Hey, I didn't create 926 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,719 these robots, I just got them because my dad died. 927 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,840 Your mind now, and they could say you don't own 928 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,639 us because you didn't fucking make us, But the show no. 929 00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:11,679 Speaker 2: Twist here has just fed us. 930 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: This guy was responsible for helping this happen, right, He 931 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,960 helped the science behind to get the thing in there. 932 00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:19,920 So he does own you, you'd be fucking dead. I'm 933 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,519 not saying again, I'm not saying to uh, don't go 934 00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:24,840 against him. That's fine, but that line of dialogue makes 935 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,800 zero sense. That'd be like if I walk to my dad, like, 936 00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:30,199 or my mom, you didn't give birth to me. It's like, 937 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,159 my mom could be a piece of shit that I want 938 00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:33,480 to disagree, like disown. 939 00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: No she's not. 940 00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: She's a lovely woman. But I just mean, like, you 941 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,840 didn't give birth to me. It's like, yeah, you did. 942 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,840 You were in labor, you know, nine months. Like it 943 00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:43,239 just it's writing one on one that like, no one 944 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,519 looks at us like this doesn't make sense, this basic 945 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:47,960 little thing here, you know. And that's where I thought 946 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,920 the character was gonna come back and saying they just. 947 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 2: Kind of stopped and then she went god note off. 948 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,679 Speaker 1: The security went down and she opened the doors and 949 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,480 the Xino was there. So it's just like, where's the 950 00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:58,599 drawa in this? Where's the sakes of none of the 951 00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:00,320 people here with guns or anything. 952 00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: Can't do anything. So I'm all said, let's take our 953 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:10,000 last ad break bear it back. We're back to the 954 00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:11,519 end of my ted talk. So for the rant, I 955 00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:12,960 just I just couldn't believe said that. 956 00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 3: I was just I just hopefully it's the last time 957 00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:16,719 we have to complain about the show. 958 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder. I really don't know nowadays. 959 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: I guess for me, I guess it all depends on 960 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,039 how much it costs because obviously streaming shows there's a 961 00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:27,840 lot of like Penny pinching now right, maybe they're gonna 962 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,079 do what they did with Mando and Malwana, where they're 963 00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:31,519 gonna make a season two, but they'll be like, you 964 00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:32,840 know what, there should be a movie or you get 965 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,639 Alien Earth the movie. 966 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,599 Speaker 3: I mean that's just one and done. You know, like 967 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,800 just go the boys at the theater. We have a 968 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,960 good time, you can kind of laugh at it together. 969 00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:49,360 But like just eight weeks, I feel like we started 970 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:55,840 this in February. It's been a ride where was I 971 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,960 gonna go, uh No, we already kind of talked about 972 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:04,840 hyeball Alien That was disappointing. Nothing even really with a 973 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,679 goat was interesting. Like before we had the release RB 974 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:14,800 to the Goat. Yeah, already talked about the butler. Who 975 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,119 else was in the cage? Yeah, no, the fucking therapist 976 00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:23,400 lady who just was getting poltergeisted on her iPad. And 977 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,880 then she's I love too in the cage and then 978 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,960 Wendy's she's like, what's the line that she says to Wendy, 979 00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:33,800 Like I'm sorry, honey, like it's it's gonna be fine. 980 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,000 It's like, no, you're not, like you don't fucking care 981 00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:38,840 about us, Like like she's just such a terrible care 982 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,159 she's not even a good wife, like she just forgot 983 00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:41,559 about her. 984 00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:43,679 Speaker 1: Say, I wish the ending of this movie or the 985 00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,119 show ended like a scary move where the re rule 986 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,119 wasn't a lying and it would have been someone been like, 987 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,039 think of all the people that we've heard, all the 988 00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:51,440 people that are dead, they listened all to those of 989 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,079 her husband, and then the last time that she was like, 990 00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:55,039 my husband's dead, and then just. 991 00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:56,079 Speaker 2: Cut to black. 992 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,559 Speaker 3: With Lincoln Park playing Yeah, and then it's. 993 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: Just a shot of like the guy with the goat 994 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,880 eye or whatever, and he's just walking through the beach 995 00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:11,119 like do you think do you think that because he 996 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,400 that's just piloting. It's like the last of us, right, 997 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,000 it's of course that we're just pilting a. 998 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,199 Speaker 2: Body now right. It's like even if you were to 999 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,199 shoot it, it wouldn't hurt. 1000 00:43:18,199 --> 00:43:20,679 Speaker 1: So do you I guess technically, do you think the 1001 00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:22,719 eye could just jump in the water and swim with 1002 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,599 that body for the. 1003 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 3: Right to Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's scary. 1004 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,039 Speaker 6: It would swim up into the point until other creatures 1005 00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:32,119 probably like eat the limbs. 1006 00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:32,679 Speaker 4: That couldn't suit. 1007 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,039 Speaker 5: I'm going to like a fish. 1008 00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: Or let's just say it avoids any creatures. 1009 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 3: It just takes a whale eye. 1010 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,119 Speaker 1: Let's just say it avoids creatures. It could just feasibly 1011 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,719 get to short, right, because it's. 1012 00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 2: Not gonna drown. 1013 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 3: So yes, good question. Yeah. 1014 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,679 Speaker 2: I don't need an answered Alien Earth too, It's fine. 1015 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,400 It just just did you red it? Like how I 1016 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,800 would have ended the show. 1017 00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: If we weren't so busy tonight, I would ask to 1018 00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:59,039 make one, but we got. We got a Jim Vita 1019 00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:01,440 record after and it's fine. 1020 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 3: We'll revisit one thing I'll throw out there too. I know, 1021 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:11,480 like the alien franchise, whether it's Prometheus, Covenant, you know, 1022 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,800 mentioned that one in there, like it's not all about 1023 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,559 the Xenomorphs, but like, come on, xenomorphs on the cover, 1024 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,880 like you're pitching this show as a xenomorphics. I feel 1025 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,360 like the xenomorph experience for the show was very, very lackluster, 1026 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,440 and I think it was like it was definitely a 1027 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,639 positive in the early portion of the show, Like I 1028 00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:36,760 did like the chase sequences that we had. Some of 1029 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,360 them were a little bit yeah, yeah, exactly like it. 1030 00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:41,440 Like I think it was some fun stuff in there, 1031 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,440 but very underused. And I'm not a fan of Wendy 1032 00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:48,840 just controlling them, which is kind of like the biggest 1033 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,719 part of them, Like at the end, they're just kind 1034 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,639 of an attack dog for Wendy, And yeah, I was 1035 00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:57,679 just disappointed, like they try to use the Zeno as 1036 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,440 this like well just being like the alien that we 1037 00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:05,039 that we know of, like whether you think of alien isolation, 1038 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,519 just like the threat of like playing those games and 1039 00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:11,880 like just feeling the Zeno on that ship, like it 1040 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,239 is just so terrifying. I feel like when it would 1041 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,079 show up in this episode, whether it was like finding 1042 00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,159 the therapist lady in the garden and it's it's supposed 1043 00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:24,320 to be going for this like weird jump scare thing 1044 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,800 where it just like silently approaches them and they turn around. 1045 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,639 It just standing there, doesn't do anything. It just standing there, 1046 00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:30,920 and then it just gets shot in the head and 1047 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,079 then walks away. So it just felt very Unzeno to me. 1048 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,400 I don't know, like maybe it's just because I was 1049 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,960 overall not vibing with the show. I was just already 1050 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,559 kind of upset with what I was being seen. It 1051 00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:46,239 just felt very unalien Esque, which is unfortunate because I 1052 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,000 think there is portions of the show where they're able 1053 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,760 to capture a little bit of that magic of just 1054 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,639 the overall vibe, probably mostly in the flashback scene when 1055 00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:56,079 we're on like a wailing you Tawny ship, and it 1056 00:45:56,159 --> 00:45:58,840 just feels very similar. That's probably like the easiest one 1057 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,519 to kind of feel similar there. But yeah, just disappointed 1058 00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:02,679 with the Zeno overall. 1059 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:02,679 Speaker 6: And. 1060 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 3: They showed like a baby. Is that what was shown 1061 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,920 at the end? I can't remember now. Yeah, yeah, okay, 1062 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,599 I don't want to see more of that, which is 1063 00:46:13,679 --> 00:46:15,960 unfortunate because like the Zeno is probably one of the 1064 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,320 coolest sci fi creatures ever, and like I don't even 1065 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,119 want to see more of that version just because of 1066 00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:25,119 what's been set up here. It's unfortunate. Yeah, that's my 1067 00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:27,119 ted talk, that's my little rant. 1068 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:28,639 Speaker 2: What you doing. 1069 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,039 Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's it's all just unfortunate. I wish 1070 00:46:33,159 --> 00:46:37,000 that the show just handled the writing and stuff a 1071 00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:40,079 little bit better. Like I said already, the middle episode 1072 00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:42,480 where we're getting that flashback going back to the ship, 1073 00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:45,199 that's my highlight. That to me feels the most alien 1074 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,079 and Zeno centric out of all this, which sucks because 1075 00:46:49,639 --> 00:46:53,079 you have some decent effects and you got some amazing 1076 00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:55,840 set pieces like this really had a chance to really 1077 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,880 build up this world a little bit more. I'm sure 1078 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,199 we're going to get some guy dropping the comments. You 1079 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,000 fucking guys are all so negative to try and write 1080 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,760 a better story, uh than these guys did, and yeah, yeah, yeah, 1081 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,280 just calm, calm the fuck down, Calm the fuck down, 1082 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,039 because you gotta you gotta look at this story for 1083 00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:16,559 what it is, and there's just a lot of dead ends, 1084 00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:19,920 a lot of abrupt endings to these characters narratives, and 1085 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:25,079 then it doesn't like segue into anything that is cohesive 1086 00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:28,440 and flowing with the natural story that's connecting with all 1087 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,280 the other characters and everything like that. 1088 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 4: It's just it's it's rushed, and there's. 1089 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 6: A lot of filler, unfortunately in here, and it's it's 1090 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,639 unfortunate because I was really looking forward to the show 1091 00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:44,320 being something really, really good, but it's just didn't really 1092 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,880 crack that code all that much. And I would easily 1093 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,599 put Romulus over this for sure. 1094 00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know. 1095 00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: I would have to not say anyone is wrong. I 1096 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,320 would just have to hear a really good case for someone. 1097 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,280 If I saw an alien and ranking White Earth was 1098 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,159 above Ron, it's just season one of Earth. 1099 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 2: I would hear them out. I want to hear what 1100 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,000 they say, but. 1101 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: I would need to have a very there, ted talk, 1102 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,480 but be fucking good. 1103 00:48:11,639 --> 00:48:13,559 Speaker 5: So yeah, no kidding. 1104 00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:20,599 Speaker 2: Anything else. Is the end of the road for really 1105 00:48:20,639 --> 00:48:21,159 on Earth. 1106 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 4: For us, end of the road until season two. 1107 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 5: I'll be there. 1108 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 2: I'll be there, We'll be there, will be there, regretulally, 1109 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,800 we'll be there. Never know, maybe. 1110 00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 3: People, but we also said that about The Strangers Chapter 1111 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:33,639 two and. 1112 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: Personal Friends Birthday, so we can't. You know, I'm not 1113 00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:40,639 gonna bump someone's U. 1114 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:46,639 Speaker 3: I'm still doing that review guys, Just kidding. 1115 00:48:48,039 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: All right, I'll at Kirk because maybe he's the lowest. 1116 00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 3: Oh gosh about this. 1117 00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 2: Someone says U. 1118 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,639 Speaker 1: Documentario says, uh, this point horrible, a complete destruction of 1119 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,519 science fiction and the alien song. I don't go that far, 1120 00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:07,559 but we should boycott the second season. 1121 00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:10,119 Speaker 2: How don't watch the second season of the series when 1122 00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:11,719 my premiere has wait a few months after? 1123 00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:17,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's tough for us. Documentario's there is 1124 00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:19,599 like a business side where we've said this before. Somehow 1125 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,480 the Alien Earth episodes were our biggest TV show episodes 1126 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,599 of the year that beat everything last of US, Peacemaker, Dexter, Daredevil, 1127 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,000 and I wasn't expecting it to be Daredevil. 1128 00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:31,119 Speaker 2: So that's something. 1129 00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: But you never know, right, because that's when we found 1130 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,840 this year, even that the Dexter resurrection numbers were way 1131 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,760 lower than the New Blood numbers because I think a 1132 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,679 lot of people after New Blood checked out because they're like, oh, 1133 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,440 a fifth ending for Dexter, no thanks, even though still 1134 00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:45,639 did good, but not to the point where it was before. 1135 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,199 So I think that would be the thing where we 1136 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,880 definitely would be there to see how it does. 1137 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,159 Speaker 2: But if we absolutely hate. 1138 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,760 Speaker 1: The show and the numbers were not there, then I 1139 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,400 think we could just do like a either a full 1140 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,159 season review or maybe not. 1141 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:56,639 Speaker 2: Who knows. 1142 00:49:56,639 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: So it always depends on what we enjoy and then 1143 00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:01,039 also what the people want same thing. If enough listeners 1144 00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:02,880 still want just us to review it, then we would. 1145 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,119 So I'm on that sense where I'm like, I need 1146 00:50:05,199 --> 00:50:05,840 to boycott it. 1147 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,639 Speaker 2: It didn't destroy Alien for me. I still have it there. 1148 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,039 I don't think there's anything I've like. 1149 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 1: I think I'm trying to think of anything recently. Maybe 1150 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,000 I wouldn't have watched like try not to get a 1151 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,480 season two. I think it's easy for me not to 1152 00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:22,559 go and do movie. 1153 00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:26,079 Speaker 2: I yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's tough. Yeah, I 1154 00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:29,840 don't know. That's a different conversation. I let Kirk and go. 1155 00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:31,519 Final rating thought. 1156 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 3: Final rating on season one of Alien Earth. Yeah, for 1157 00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:40,320 a show that's I really wasn't vibing with for the 1158 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,039 vast majority of the whole season, I still think it 1159 00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:46,559 looked pretty damn good. I think the performances I didn't 1160 00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:49,320 love the rating behind it. I think the actors were 1161 00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:52,480 definitely giving it mostly they're all I think the big 1162 00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:55,760 standout was Wendy for me, and then would be uh, 1163 00:50:56,199 --> 00:50:59,800 Timothy olafont As kersh On. Unfortunately, like the character didn't 1164 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,000 really go anywhere, but he was still very enticing and 1165 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:08,199 uh yeah, just just had some of well yeah, just 1166 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,360 some of those great synth qualities that the whaling Utawni uh, 1167 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,840 you know, synthetics. They they're always just hard to pin on, 1168 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,559 like kind of what their actual alignment is. It's usually 1169 00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:22,239 just with with the company. This one's a little bit 1170 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,960 different because he's made by waling Utoni but working for Prodigy, 1171 00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:28,719 so it's a little bit of an extra layer there, 1172 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,239 and another avenue we could have went down, but we 1173 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,480 really didn't. So just just super unfortunate because I think 1174 00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:38,039 there was some great potential that was shown here. There 1175 00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:40,719 was some fun pieces to play, but yeah, just just 1176 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,320 really really messy across the board. And it's weird that 1177 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,360 it's it's not even like Okay, this was an interesting concept, cool, 1178 00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:51,440 cool story, but like I just don't like the canonical 1179 00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:56,199 and it like weight that it carries. It's like, I 1180 00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,559 don't really have any positives to say beyond like the 1181 00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:03,159 visual of the show, Like yeah, you know, it looked 1182 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,519 it looked pretty good, like it was pretty well made visually, 1183 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,840 some rough cgi moments around some aliens, but for the 1184 00:52:11,199 --> 00:52:14,199 vast majority, like it was a cool look an alien adventure. 1185 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,639 But yeah, just really messy. I don't ever want to 1186 00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:20,000 rewatch the show. And uh, I think I'm gonna give 1187 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,360 it like a three out of ten. I think I'm 1188 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,400 gonna give it to a thirty percent. Uh yeah, come 1189 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,679 see me after class and we'll discuss what to do here. 1190 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,000 That's what I'm writing on this page. Big Red felt too, 1191 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,800 like the Thick the thick marker too. Yeah, no, unfortunate. 1192 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,719 There you go, a little Emma Frost thumbs down. I 1193 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,480 was really hyped when this was announced too, because it 1194 00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:44,599 just felt like it was out of nowhere coming off 1195 00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:46,559 of Romulus, Like it was just really exciting to be 1196 00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:49,079 back in the alien sphere and this is what we got. 1197 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,000 I really like Romulus didn't love this one, So yeah. 1198 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 2: There you go. I will go. 1199 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:03,559 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm stuck between a five and a failing grade, 1200 00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:04,960 which would be a low failing grade. 1201 00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:12,760 Speaker 2: But I'm just I don't know. I yeah, I don't 1202 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:13,280 know this one. 1203 00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:15,119 Speaker 1: This one's a tough one because I feel like if they, oh, 1204 00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:17,639 I'd have to think about it more or you know, 1205 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,039 you watch, But I don't know if I want to 1206 00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:22,239 do that. Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm gonna go with 1207 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,599 how I feel here. I'm just gonna give it a 1208 00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:25,639 four point nine, just right on the cuss because there 1209 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:26,679 is some good visuals. 1210 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 2: There's some because the hit. 1211 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: The other thing is there are things that I was 1212 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,519 interested and enjoyed performances are still there. So that's why 1213 00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:34,880 they're still not like, oh, it's still there, and there's 1214 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,400 still like that one episode that's good and. 1215 00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:37,320 Speaker 2: Some of the earliest stuff. 1216 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 1: There's some stuff I questioned but was kind of good 1217 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,400 in a pocket, but that stuff that I was interested in, 1218 00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:46,800 the results either was disappointing, didn't make sense, or what 1219 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,639 I would say is poor. So that's the thing where 1220 00:53:49,639 --> 00:53:51,119 I look back out like you said, oh, Curse is 1221 00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:53,320 really good, but it's like, yeah it was what was curse? 1222 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:53,519 Speaker 6: You know? 1223 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 2: Was it just to put them in there? So like 1224 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,519 every week we're like, oh, what's he up to? What's 1225 00:53:57,559 --> 00:53:57,880 going on? 1226 00:53:59,039 --> 00:54:01,119 Speaker 1: I know some might say called that's the season two thing. 1227 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,719 There's too much things then of oh, that's the season 1228 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,519 two thing. You know. You gotta give me some hootsball here, 1229 00:54:05,519 --> 00:54:06,840 And I guess, like I said, the hootspell that they 1230 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,079 did give me here of like certain reveals of like 1231 00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:11,440 the butler dad roout thing. It's like you just introduced 1232 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,280 that now, you know. Or the brother and sister they're 1233 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,039 like dynamic and having this like last episode like what 1234 00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:17,519 did you do? 1235 00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:19,320 Speaker 2: And then this week like ah, we figured it out? 1236 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,920 And like I know again. They ended with like I'm 1237 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,760 supposed to care that much? Where the brother. The whole 1238 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,320 show's been telling me that these humans are bad. And 1239 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,119 then when she's like we. 1240 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,760 Speaker 1: Rule, the Hermit's like looking scared, like oh my god, 1241 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,199 what have I done. It's like, I don't know. The 1242 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,039 show's been telling me humans are pieces of shit, right, 1243 00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:37,079 so I guess you should rule and take these things out, 1244 00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:39,639 you know, like there's nothing to redeem it other than 1245 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,320 even Hermit last week, like you could have made a 1246 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,440 case that he could have been in a character. But 1247 00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:44,880 then when that happened last week, I was like, yeah, 1248 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,480 you're a idiot, you know, Like I wasn't rooting for 1249 00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:49,480 you anymore, right, I wish there was more. 1250 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,559 Speaker 2: Everything just feels very undercooked. So yeah, only had a 1251 00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:55,360 four point nine. I will fail it because of that. 1252 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:57,760 Speaker 5: Hmmm. 1253 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 6: I like what you guys are putting down and I 1254 00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:04,960 think I'm probably gonna go a four point nine as well. 1255 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,280 Speaker 5: I don't want to pass it. I don't. 1256 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 6: I think I was trying so hard to be positive 1257 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,400 and I was really really trying to just support certain 1258 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,679 things at the show. But after last week and that 1259 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,119 this week, especially the finale, it's just it's it's really 1260 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,480 a letdown, and I'm really I'm really bummed out by it. 1261 00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:26,119 Speaker 5: I wanted it to be something. 1262 00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just a broken record at this point, 1263 00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:33,360 like the characters, the narratives was abruptly ended. We weren't 1264 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,719 getting a lot of satisfying results, and there was a 1265 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,840 lot of potential here. I was already not really sold 1266 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,000 on the whole concept of them creating these synths, these 1267 00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:44,960 hybrids by putting the kid's body or minds into the 1268 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,360 adult bodies and just to follo out of that and 1269 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,320 then everything and everything else. It just was not my 1270 00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:53,760 kind of narrative I was engaging with. I just think 1271 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,400 that they should have kept it so fucking simple. Have 1272 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,159 this ship that's you know, have the company, sure have Prodigy, 1273 00:56:01,159 --> 00:56:03,320 you have when Utani kind of bickering and whatnot, But 1274 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,519 have this ship crash land on Prodigy Land and then 1275 00:56:08,199 --> 00:56:10,440 just the fallout of that way when Utani just dealing 1276 00:56:10,519 --> 00:56:12,800 with it immediately and focusing on that, and you know, 1277 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,719 you have the court political side of things that would 1278 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,119 have been much more interesting and we don't need them 1279 00:56:20,199 --> 00:56:23,079 to see all this crazy shit going on with the hybrids, 1280 00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:25,760 but instead just give us Prodigy just immediately going into 1281 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,719 experimenting and whatnot. 1282 00:56:28,119 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 5: Don't even make it on Earth. 1283 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 6: They should have made it on like Alien Moon or 1284 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,280 something like that, Alien Mars, just something else out there, 1285 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,239 and just yeah, wrap it up. 1286 00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:40,199 Speaker 2: Yes, each each aliens different planet. 1287 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,119 Speaker 6: You keep it very very straightforward and simple where you're 1288 00:56:44,159 --> 00:56:47,119 dealing with something that can be present and then it's 1289 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,440 just going to end up disappearing by the time we 1290 00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:55,719 get to the actual alien. So yeah, yeah, it's just 1291 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,239 it's it. 1292 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,280 Speaker 4: Sucks that you're dealing with people that are just trying to. 1293 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,280 Speaker 6: Play the story too close to Alien. They're trying to 1294 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,679 make it fit with that original Alien movie. Keep it 1295 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,039 way too close to that Alien movie. 1296 00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:11,199 Speaker 5: They should just branch off. 1297 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,280 Speaker 6: For example, there was a book I can't remember what 1298 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,039 the name of it was, but it was an alien 1299 00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:18,800 book and the story was a human colony ship a 1300 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,840 long time ago crashlane on this miscellaneous planet, and the 1301 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,199 planet that it crash landed on, the colonists that survived there, 1302 00:57:26,199 --> 00:57:28,559 it was like a few generations. They were just medieval times. 1303 00:57:28,639 --> 00:57:30,800 Now they built like castles and stuff like that. But 1304 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,679 this is like after when Utania has expanded to the stars. 1305 00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:35,840 But this you know, they were trapped there. They built 1306 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,159 castles and everything, and then while they're out mining and 1307 00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:40,800 prospect and they find a cave with xenomorph eggs, and 1308 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,199 then it starts this like medieval war against xenomorphs, and 1309 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,440 you have to think medieval soldiers that have like the 1310 00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:47,519 high attack. 1311 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 5: Like from their old spaceship or whatever. So they've got 1312 00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:50,639 like some advanced metals. 1313 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,559 Speaker 4: So it's just like, that's a very fucking cool concept. 1314 00:57:53,639 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 5: I'd love to see something like. 1315 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,119 Speaker 6: That, but of course, like, no, we're getting something that's 1316 00:57:58,199 --> 00:58:01,119 just playing a little too close to that original alien 1317 00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:02,880 story and they don't need to do that. 1318 00:58:03,159 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 1: But well, now I don't think that this is the case, 1319 00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:09,400 because what you pitch is still very different than what 1320 00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:11,400 really did the last two times. But I think that 1321 00:58:11,639 --> 00:58:13,840 is the issue where there were a lot of alien 1322 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,000 fans that didn't like it getting two different alien right, 1323 00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:19,119 that was they weren't a fan that like, even Covenant 1324 00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:21,519 to me felt like a direct result of Prometheus if 1325 00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:24,320 I make sure Aliens in the title Aliens the poster 1326 00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:26,960 like alien alien alien right, And I think that hurt 1327 00:58:27,039 --> 00:58:29,199 Covenant because Prometheus was telling a different story and it 1328 00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:31,800 felt like he had a U turn. So don't get wrong, 1329 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,559 I think I'd be down for Maybe they'd have to 1330 00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:36,639 do kind of like what Killers the Killers did where 1331 00:58:36,639 --> 00:58:38,679 it's animated, something anthology, and that would work. 1332 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,199 Speaker 2: But on the grand scale, I don't know. 1333 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I still think 1334 00:58:43,039 --> 00:58:46,599 like reviews wise, I think this did like well enough. Obviously, 1335 00:58:46,599 --> 00:58:49,800 I'm not sure what that is for the whole season. 1336 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,679 It's like ninety five percent of Round Tomatoes, average critics 1337 00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:56,480 score or average audience scorre seventy percent. Again, critics a 1338 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,960 lot of times only see a certain amount of episodes. 1339 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,639 I don't know how much that is update, But if it's. 1340 00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 2: Reviewed well enough and still viewed, they'll continue and consider 1341 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,239 a success. But uh yeah, I don't And we'll have 1342 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,320 to see what they do with. 1343 00:59:10,039 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: The next Alien because even then there's tons of detractors 1344 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,679 of Romless. I think that's very much like a kind 1345 00:59:15,679 --> 00:59:18,239 of Alien Force awakens, right, Like they hit too many beats, 1346 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,280 And even when I watched again, I forgot how much 1347 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,360 of the third act just turns into aliens and literally 1348 00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:25,280 the stay away from her Bitch line, like they just 1349 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,599 start ripping stuff away, and like, oh right, you guys 1350 00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:30,800 also did this, So I don't know where at least Predator, 1351 00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:33,760 I don't like pray that was not the case. 1352 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,079 Speaker 2: They weren't ripping off like I'm don't get wrong. 1353 00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:37,920 Speaker 1: There's probably a couple right, like the blood in the face, 1354 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,639 but I feel like that feels more original. 1355 00:59:39,679 --> 00:59:42,559 Speaker 2: And then now this whole thing with like I don't 1356 00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:44,559 know if you could do that with Alien. 1357 00:59:44,639 --> 00:59:47,039 Speaker 1: But the fact that Tracktenberg is making the next movie 1358 00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:49,639 from like the POV of Predator, that's very ballsy. 1359 00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:50,199 Speaker 2: That's great. 1360 00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:51,719 Speaker 1: That's like a concept has never been done, so it's 1361 00:59:51,719 --> 00:59:54,960 something completely different. Right, So Predator and even Killers the Killers, 1362 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,960 that's something different. Right, So you could say, no matter 1363 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,960 how you feel about Romless, you could like Romless more 1364 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,679 than all the other new pres stuff. Predator is definitely 1365 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,800 way doing way more experimental stuff right now with their franchise, right, 1366 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:06,840 and maybe Alien needs it. 1367 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 2: But then again, maybe that's how Alien doesn't work. Maybe 1368 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:09,639 dihards don't want that. 1369 01:00:09,719 --> 01:00:12,039 Speaker 1: The people that come and watch that, they want kind 1370 01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:14,840 of some rinse and repeat, just different ship, different scientists, 1371 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,320 different robot, similar motivations. 1372 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,719 Speaker 6: You know, if you give me a new squad of 1373 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,400 colonial marines going into another alien planet, I'm there for it. 1374 01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 5: I absolutely am. 1375 01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:25,559 Speaker 2: But like you know, it's gonna be the squad. 1376 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, just a fuck. 1377 01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 2: They're gonna like because they're rule. So that's another con. 1378 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,159 Speaker 6: This squad made absolutely zero sense because you see them 1379 01:00:34,199 --> 01:00:36,199 doing the overview. It's like forces are down, but we 1380 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,320 have prodigy squads like scouting the island, trying to contain 1381 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,760 the asset or whatever, and you see the squad, but 1382 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,320 then it shows the squad like, Okay, our. 1383 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 5: Goal, it's not safe for you here. 1384 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 6: They're like at the gravesite, we're gonna get you back 1385 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,840 to We're trying to save non essential personnel and then 1386 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,159 evact them off the island. And then they're in the 1387 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,079 building now after they dropped her off, like okay, protocol 1388 01:00:56,159 --> 01:00:58,239 dictates we've got to go to the armorne. It's like, 1389 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:03,480 don't they have like a like other orders to like yeah, 1390 01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:07,519 because they said we got to locate a boy cavalier 1391 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,559 and protect him. And then an old protocol dictates we 1392 01:01:10,599 --> 01:01:13,079 get to the armory. All this just random bullshit. It's like, 1393 01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:15,159 what the fuck, there's just they don't even know what 1394 01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:16,920 they're doing. Now they're in like the lab. It's like, 1395 01:01:17,199 --> 01:01:19,960 we're in here, in the most dangerous of all places. 1396 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:21,159 Speaker 5: We're in the lab. 1397 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 6: And then the girl opens up the fucking z you know, 1398 01:01:23,719 --> 01:01:26,079 like caged thing and looks at the dead corpse, like. 1399 01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 2: What the fuck are you guys doing in the lab? 1400 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,719 I thought you're supposed to go to the armory. Isn't 1401 01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:30,280 that protocol? 1402 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,519 Speaker 5: Like they're just they're they're not on their game. 1403 01:01:36,719 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 2: They are not neither was the show. So well, let 1404 01:01:40,519 --> 01:01:42,679 us know when the discord Definitely, as some. 1405 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 1: Discord a couple of days that discord will be sunseted 1406 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,079 to whatever next is. 1407 01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:50,519 Speaker 2: Gonna take over it. But Discord YouTube constant say same thing. 1408 01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:53,119 Speaker 1: If there's anything that you think we got wrong, didn't understand, 1409 01:01:53,159 --> 01:01:55,679 we always are willing to hear a point of view autism. 1410 01:01:55,719 --> 01:01:59,199 It's not like yeah, you idiot, no, because neither's someone's 1411 01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:00,760 like you know anything about that X, Y and Z. 1412 01:02:01,159 --> 01:02:02,800 You know though, I think because there's so many issues, 1413 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,079 I don't think you could convince us to pass and 1414 01:02:05,239 --> 01:02:08,480 like the show. But you know, conversation always helps on Twitter. 1415 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Facebook, YouTube, Discord, Patreon. We very much appreciate it. Yeah, 1416 01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:15,559 that's the end of this. Who knows next one we'll 1417 01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:17,639 be talking about alien, whether it is in comic form, 1418 01:02:17,679 --> 01:02:20,039 whether it's for Almost two, maybe it's Earth two, I 1419 01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:22,400 don't know. But whenever that is, we promise you it 1420 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,000 won't be born