Speaker 1: Billy cunning in the Great America. Welcome this Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 2: The Tri State Reds Baseball suspend it last night, think
Speaker 2: them the fourth or fifth inning.
Speaker 1: The Reds are losing two to one. But today's going
Speaker 1: to be like a split the day night doubleheader in Boston,
Speaker 1: and the Reds are going to have largely I think
Speaker 1: to this afternoon's going to have like a bullpen day.
Speaker 1: Then tonight we'll see what occurs. The Reds are on
Speaker 1: a roll of the Super Bowl and beyond and also
Speaker 1: the World Series, possibly along with the Bengals. Plus so
Speaker 1: later on we've scheduled for ak Ramaswami to go on
Speaker 1: to talk about what's happening in Columbus, what he would
Speaker 1: have done, what he would do if he was the governor.
Speaker 1: Would he issue about seventy vetos? How many will be
Speaker 1: overruled by the legislature, which is kind of difficult. I
Speaker 1: thought it was like within the next day or two
Speaker 1: or three, But the legislature has a year and a
Speaker 1: half to over ride a veto, which means you need
Speaker 1: twenty and you need twenty in the Senate and sixty
Speaker 1: in the House to override the veto. So we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens down the road open until then. Burrow Love
Speaker 1: is the editor and vice president. He's kind of like
Speaker 1: the JD. Vance, the vice president of the Cincinnati Inquire.
Speaker 1: He also runs the Columbus Dispatch and the Akron Beacon
Speaker 1: Journal who runs everything in print and Ohio and Berrol Love,
Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Speaker 1: I read your columns about taking umbrage of some of
Speaker 1: the comments of the legislature they've incorporated into law and
Speaker 1: the new budget about shall we say sunshine type loss
Speaker 1: and you explain to the American people why you think
Speaker 1: the American people in Ohio are not getting information out
Speaker 1: of Columbus because of what the Republicans are doing.
Speaker 3: Well, Bill, thanks for having me on. It's a beautiful
Speaker 3: day in the Queen City. So my column basically questioned,
Speaker 3: if you take a step back the trend that we've
Speaker 3: seen in Columbus of taking a bill, and in this case,
Speaker 3: the budget bill and just tacking on a bunch of
Speaker 3: unrelated topics. This budget bill was something like six thousand
Speaker 3: pages cool and there are provisions in the state budget
Speaker 3: bill that have nothing to do with the way the
Speaker 3: state raises and spends its money.
Speaker 4: And so tucked into the budget bill.
Speaker 3: Of concern to me, as somebody who fights for your
Speaker 3: right to know, for transparency and open government, was a
Speaker 3: provision that allows lawmakers to have their emails and text
Speaker 3: messages exempt from public records requests until the start of
Speaker 3: the next legislative session.
Speaker 4: So that that alarms me, because yeah.
Speaker 2: So let's say the leaders in the House of the
Speaker 2: Senate they have text messages going back and forth. You
Speaker 2: do this, I'll do that.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the householder situation. Matt Borges and senators say, well,
Speaker 1: I'll do this if you do that. And the way
Speaker 1: businesses can to today, as you know, is by text
Speaker 1: or email. That's how you don't send letters anymore. There's
Speaker 1: no voicemails left. And so explain again, I don't think
Speaker 1: American people get to this point that and want to
Speaker 1: know what's going on in government. We have to have
Speaker 1: access to their to their communications, and the Republicans don't
Speaker 1: want that.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think any elected officials want that. You
Speaker 3: can go back to the Gang of Five in Cincinnati
Speaker 3: City Council, when the Inquirer and other local media organizations
Speaker 3: fought for access to those tech messages because you know, basically,
Speaker 3: if you are conducted in the digital era, it really
Speaker 3: complicates our efforts to keep government transparent.
Speaker 4: It used to be you know, you would call it,
Speaker 4: you would call a meeting.
Speaker 3: You would have to you know, provide notice, the public
Speaker 3: could show up, the media could show up, and then
Speaker 3: if there was any written correspondence memos, I mean back
Speaker 3: to the days where you would call your your secretariat
Speaker 3: and take a memo and all of that that is gone.
Speaker 3: You know, it's instant communication, and so that that has posed.
Speaker 3: You know, the public records laws have struggled to keep
Speaker 3: up with technology. But there has been precedent that if
Speaker 3: you are using email in or text, using your text
Speaker 3: messaging service to conduct the public's business, that that needs
Speaker 3: to be open to inspection.
Speaker 4: And little by little there have been challenges to that.
Speaker 3: And this is one that got snuck into the budget
Speaker 3: bill that says our lawmakers and Columbus don't have to
Speaker 3: provide that information.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: We don't want to see, you know, the text to
Speaker 3: their spouses about picking up eggs at the grocery store
Speaker 3: or oh my gosh, Bobby got you know, detention after school.
Speaker 4: What are we going to do about it. Those can
Speaker 4: be reacted.
Speaker 3: You know. It's when we make public records requests they're
Speaker 3: not you know, good journalists won't just do these broad requests.
Speaker 3: They will say, we would like the correspondence, you know,
Speaker 3: specifically between you know this this representative and this.
Speaker 4: You know this.
Speaker 3: Lobbyist or whatever on this particular issue. And so, yeah,
Speaker 3: you can go back to the Householder scandal. You know,
Speaker 3: the emails between Larry Householder and other members of the
Speaker 3: legislature that he was trying to get to support, you know,
Speaker 3: the first Energy bailout that was that was important information
Speaker 3: for the public to know that. You know, there was
Speaker 3: a federal investigation obviously, but it was the journalist that
Speaker 3: kind of filled in the gaps and let people understand
Speaker 3: the broad scope of what Householder was doing.
Speaker 1: So, Burrol Love, am I anticipating a lawsuit because I
Speaker 1: would think under the First Amendment?
Speaker 2: Am I'm thinking?
Speaker 1: Okay, I Love lawyers, Am I going to anticipate a
Speaker 1: lawsuit that this is on and keeping with the requirements
Speaker 1: in the First Amendment, the public's right to know freedom
Speaker 1: of the press is a lawsuit coming.
Speaker 3: You know, we we have done lawsuits to get information
Speaker 3: I'm not planning anything now. You know, Jack Griner, our
Speaker 3: First Amendment attorney, is really good at navigating this process
Speaker 3: for us.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Usually we wait for the injury, you know, the actual
Speaker 3: denial of information, so we can see on something specific
Speaker 3: rather than something that's broad. But the but the point
Speaker 3: I make in my column is that there is already
Speaker 3: a law in the you know, state of Ohio called
Speaker 3: the single subject rule, which in theory should protect us
Speaker 3: from some things like this. So back to this giant,
Speaker 3: massive omnibus budget bill, you know, added to that budget
Speaker 3: bill and passed and signed by the governor where things
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with the budget that missed their day,
Speaker 3: you know, for the public to vet you've got.
Speaker 4: We reported today.
Speaker 3: That it's now law that if you are under the
Speaker 3: age of twenty one and you want to get a
Speaker 3: driver's license, you need to have the full blown driver's
Speaker 3: ed hours behind the wheel that we make sixteen seventeen
Speaker 3: year olds do when they want a driver's license. Maybe
Speaker 3: that's a good idea, I don't know. I'm not here
Speaker 3: to say it's a good idea or a bad idea.
Speaker 3: But that obviously was not the single subject of a bill.
Speaker 3: So that it could be vetted by both both chambers
Speaker 3: public hearings. There's just things that get signed into law
Speaker 3: that have just sidestep, you know, go back to your
Speaker 3: schoolhouse rock days. How a bill becomes a law. There's
Speaker 3: a process and it's important. And by tacking everything onto
Speaker 3: these you know, omnibus bills, the public is getting cheated
Speaker 3: out of their opportunity to weigh.
Speaker 4: In on you know, these matters.
Speaker 1: And bur lov In that regard you mentioned in your
Speaker 1: column about self. I think most parents would say that
Speaker 1: cell phones in schools are kind of like a bad
Speaker 1: idea and effect of January first of next year, cell
Speaker 1: phones will not be permitted in school. But the difficulty
Speaker 1: is that should not be part of the omnibus spending
Speaker 1: and tax bill because cell phones and maybe a good idea,
Speaker 1: but that's not the way to do it. Is that
Speaker 1: your point?
Speaker 4: That that's my point?
Speaker 3: Like, what does cell phone usage in school has to
Speaker 3: do with the way the state raises and spends its money?
Speaker 2: Zero?
Speaker 4: This is a budget bill. This is a budget bill.
Speaker 3: And you know I have a you know, I have
Speaker 3: a teenage son I struggled with, you know, managing his
Speaker 3: cell phone usage.
Speaker 4: I know, his teachers did.
Speaker 3: I think it's a great idea, but you know, just
Speaker 3: getting into my personal politics now, is that the state's.
Speaker 4: Job to mandate?
Speaker 3: I mean, we have local school boards. They should be
Speaker 3: running the district, you know, they should have a stay
Speaker 3: in this. And then I my sister's a teacher. I
Speaker 3: have married friends who are teachers. They they think this
Speaker 3: is a good idea, but they questioned, Okay, this is
Speaker 3: state law. Now, well is this going to be up
Speaker 3: to us to enforce? You know, how does this work?
Speaker 3: Like the state can easily, you know, throw a law
Speaker 3: into this budget bill and Mike Dwaine sign it into law,
Speaker 3: and then the common folk bill.
Speaker 4: We're left to figure it all out, you know. And
Speaker 4: we haven't even had.
Speaker 3: Our say in the process. So this single subject rule
Speaker 3: that we have in Ohio is it's laughable. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just ignored and it's getting worse.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about another part of your column,
Speaker 1: Barrel love about property tax relief. And Dwine vetoed the
Speaker 1: property tax relief. And here's the thing. When I talked
Speaker 1: to Huffman, I talked to the governor, I talked to
Speaker 1: people in charge. They're saying, we're definitely afraid. Maybe afraid's
Speaker 1: the wrong word, but we certainly hope the voters of
Speaker 1: Ohio do not eliminate all real estate property taxes because
Speaker 1: if they do that, I head on a state senator
Speaker 1: who said, you know, if that happens, the state sales
Speaker 1: tax is going to be twenty percent or higher. And
Speaker 1: so they worked hard in the legislature to take away
Speaker 1: some of the property tax problems, especially senior citizens and
Speaker 1: others that see their property tax rates skyrocketing. And the
Speaker 1: lawmakers came up with a few methods to restrain the
Speaker 1: growth of that, but line vetoed everything, and so can
Speaker 1: you imagine And I'm going to ask for Vake Ramaswami
Speaker 1: this question later on he'll be the governor when the
Speaker 1: rubber hits the road. That the funding only three ways
Speaker 1: to get funds for all public matters, which is real
Speaker 1: estate taxes, sales taxes, or state income taxes.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: There's a few other little fees, but nothing significant. And
Speaker 1: they're talking about, oh my god, if the voters and
Speaker 1: I think we're going to vote that, I think we're
Speaker 1: going to say, yes, get rid of property taxes. I
Speaker 1: talk to people like Rocky Boyman and Tony Bender. They're
Speaker 1: sick and tired of paying real estate taxes what they're paying.
Speaker 1: You give a voter a one shot opportunity of eliminating
Speaker 1: real estate taxes, they're going to do it. And that
Speaker 1: means the consequence is going to be a twenty percent
Speaker 1: sales tax or tripling of the state income tax and
Speaker 1: also municipality taxes. And townships now will be given the
Speaker 1: ability to charge income taxes to their township residents of
Speaker 1: which I'm a proud member of Sycamore Township. And so
Speaker 1: when the legislature tried to soften the impact of this,
Speaker 1: the wine.
Speaker 2: Vetoed every thing.
Speaker 1: Now, while you have this in your column about the
Speaker 1: vetoing of the property tax relief, have you considered the
Speaker 1: next shoot to drop, which is on the ballot people
Speaker 1: voting against this, then what happens.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, there are sixty seven line item
Speaker 3: vetos that the governor did before he signed the budget bill.
Speaker 3: There's no way that Republicans can go after every one
Speaker 3: of those for an override.
Speaker 4: But they are lining up behind this one ye. This
Speaker 4: will be the one ye.
Speaker 3: I mean immediately, if you if you follow any of
Speaker 3: them on social media.
Speaker 4: They are whipped up into a frenzy about this. So
Speaker 4: I this.
Speaker 3: You know, if I was going to set odds on
Speaker 3: one of those line items that's going to get overridden,
Speaker 3: it would be that one that said, I think they're
Speaker 3: all in agreement that there needs to be property tax reform.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Should the governor have thrown the baby out with the
Speaker 4: back water? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe he's forcing them to go back and do something
Speaker 3: a little more comprehensive rather than just you know, a patch.
Speaker 4: Here and a band aid there.
Speaker 3: But you're right, the money's got to come from somewhere.
Speaker 3: We're not going to stop funding schools.
Speaker 2: So that's interesting.
Speaker 4: I don't know how. I don't know how this is
Speaker 4: going to play out.
Speaker 3: But but but this inner party drama is fascinating, isn't it?
Speaker 2: It is no question.
Speaker 1: And lastly, about the stadium Bengal tax the governor allowed
Speaker 1: us to go through, which is the Brownies are going
Speaker 1: to get six hundred million dollars. Jimmy Haslam and his
Speaker 1: family in Cleveland are quite happy about that. The Bengals
Speaker 1: have been left out at this point. But when I
Speaker 1: speak to those in charge and Columbus, they say, look,
Speaker 1: when the deal deal is done, which I guess will
Speaker 1: be done in about about the four weeks. I have
Speaker 1: Denise tree House on Monday to give us an update
Speaker 1: after the long holiday weekend about what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: And your cohort Kevin Aldridge has written about this, and
Speaker 1: so have you relative to billionaires early billionaires getting tax
Speaker 1: money to incentivize it, and the Bengals are left out
Speaker 1: in the cold at this point. But everyone thinks that
Speaker 1: once the deal deal is done and you go up
Speaker 1: to Columbus, part of that one point six billion dollars
Speaker 1: maybe one point four billion unclaimed funds is going to
Speaker 1: go toward these kinds of ventures. Is Is it a
Speaker 1: good idea? And Mike Brown at times is a very
Speaker 1: popular character in this town. Gosh, you guys almost ninety
Speaker 1: years old now and not times is not so popular.
Speaker 1: Is it a good use of taxpayer money unclaimed to
Speaker 1: give it to billionaires to build these palances to the
Speaker 1: National Football League?
Speaker 2: There's a question in there some way.
Speaker 3: There's a question in when you put it in those terms,
Speaker 3: what I mean, I would sound like an idiot if
Speaker 3: I said yes, that's a great.
Speaker 4: Idea, obvious OBUs, there's more nuanced than that. Here here's
Speaker 4: what I know.
Speaker 3: After the terms of the new Bengals lease were revealed,
Speaker 3: we were very fortunate the editorial board of the Inquiry,
Speaker 3: which includes myself and Kevin Aldridge and our news director.
Speaker 4: We had some of the reporters in the room too.
Speaker 3: We had a sit down with Denise tree House, with
Speaker 3: county administrator Jeff Aludo, We had their negotiator, we had
Speaker 3: their new attorneys from Dinsmore. They like filled the room,
Speaker 3: and of course, you know, their message to us that
Speaker 3: they wanted us, you know, this was all about. The
Speaker 3: messaging was that this is a way better deal than
Speaker 3: the last one, and you can't argue with that. But
Speaker 3: we got to ask them some questions. And one of
Speaker 3: the questions that we asked because.
Speaker 4: The money was really pared down.
Speaker 3: I mean we were talking, we were throwing around terms
Speaker 3: like eight hundred million, one point two million if you
Speaker 3: included the practice facility. They really scaled back what they
Speaker 3: agreed to in terms of stadium renovations, anticipating that eventually
Speaker 3: there was going to be some money kicked in from
Speaker 3: the state, and so we asked them.
Speaker 4: Point blank, will that money be added.
Speaker 3: To this four hundred and seventy million that you approved
Speaker 3: so that you can continue expansions, you can you can
Speaker 3: look at other enhancements or that will that go to
Speaker 3: that original total. And they said, no, whatever you get
Speaker 3: from the state will be added on. So they basically
Speaker 3: they agreed to that much lower renovation number because they
Speaker 3: are anticipating money from the state.
Speaker 4: And I think this unclaimed funds.
Speaker 3: You can argue the ethics of spending other people's money,
Speaker 3: but I think this is the you know, the pot
Speaker 3: of gold under the rainbow that they've found.
Speaker 4: And so I got to ask you a question.
Speaker 5: Bill.
Speaker 4: Have you checked to see if the state owes you
Speaker 4: any money?
Speaker 1: Yes, they owe me thirty seven dollars and fifty cents.
Speaker 1: And I told Tony Bender, if you collected for me,
Speaker 1: I'll give you half of the action. And I can't
Speaker 1: get anybody to bite on it. I got thirty seven
Speaker 1: dollars and fifty cents. I have no idea where it
Speaker 1: came from. But the effort's not worth the eighteen dollars
Speaker 1: for me to collect it. I'm willing to if a
Speaker 1: serious money, yeah, yes, I'll collect it, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to go through the process for thirty seven dollars.
Speaker 2: Have you checked burroll Abby.
Speaker 3: I did the state owes me about fifty seven dollars. Well,
Speaker 3: just just for journalistic research, I did. I did do
Speaker 3: a claim. So we'll see, we'll see what happens. But
Speaker 3: I bring that up because you know, we the inquire
Speaker 3: and just about anyone else that reported on this unclaimed
Speaker 3: funds story. Let people know, you know, shared the website
Speaker 3: where you can go to check and see and make
Speaker 3: a claim. And so I'm wondering how at the end
Speaker 3: of all of this, with all the attention we've been
Speaker 3: giving to this this pile of money, I wonder how
Speaker 3: much we'll be left after all of us started making
Speaker 3: our plans.
Speaker 2: Well, let's see what happens.
Speaker 1: But when I talked to the powers that be, they
Speaker 1: don't like the two percent and attacks on sports betting that,
Speaker 1: they don't like using other moneies. They don't like the
Speaker 1: bonding thing because even though you know that takes away
Speaker 1: the ability of the state to bond other issues. So
Speaker 1: that this came up and they grasp on this thing
Speaker 1: like a like a pit bull with a pork chop,
Speaker 1: and they said, you know what, this is unplayed money.
Speaker 1: Give everybody one more year than give them ten years.
Speaker 1: And that's the way it is. But Burro Love, thank you.
Speaker 1: You run all the newspapers in Ohio. Good to check
Speaker 1: in with you, and you continue to have a great.
Speaker 3: Come on some of the newspapers in Ohio, all the
Speaker 3: ones that matter, the good ones, the good ones, the
Speaker 3: good ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, burrough Love, You're a great American. Every great fourth
Speaker 1: of July.
Speaker 4: You too, Bill, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: God bless America. Let's continue with more.
Speaker 1: It's the least painful way of giving billionaires hundreds of
Speaker 1: millions of dollars to make it look like it's for
Speaker 1: the public good. Bill Cunningham. Coming up next is more
Speaker 1: in the Diddy trial, and let on we've scheduled with
Speaker 1: ak Ramaswami, the man who would be Governor. Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundreds. You old over you all right,
Speaker 1: Dave Keaton, hit the button, Hit the button. Red's Baseball
Speaker 1: kicks off today about two twenty five. No pregame show.
Speaker 1: Simply right into it reads down a run in the
Speaker 1: fourth of the fifth. They have complete that game, hopefully
Speaker 1: by four to thirty five o'clock. Then back out it
Speaker 1: with the socks tonight. Lance McAllister and of course Rocky
Speaker 1: and Eddie Fingers, that living legend Eddie Fingers in the meantime,
Speaker 1: but until then, I have a text former friend of mine.
Speaker 1: This is relative to my last my next upcoming discussion
Speaker 1: with with ak Ramaswami. And simply there are some individuals.
Speaker 1: In one case friend of mine spends time in order
Speaker 1: to find money for other people. That there was a
Speaker 1: woman in North Carolina that had a sixty nine thousand
Speaker 1: dollars life insurance proceed policy that she did not know
Speaker 1: she could collect on, and that was part of the
Speaker 1: one point four billion dollars the state of Ohio has
Speaker 1: and unclaim funds. So it would behoove you to go
Speaker 1: online Ohio Unclaimfunds dot gov dot org and find out
Speaker 1: whether or not the Department of Commerce has serious money
Speaker 1: for you. I'm told I got thirty five dollars or so,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling Dave Keaton, my producer, I'll give you
Speaker 1: half the money if you can get the money back
Speaker 1: thirty five dollars. See, some others might have some serious money,
Speaker 1: like that woman from North Carolina.
Speaker 2: So get it done.
Speaker 1: And the money's going to be used to enhance sports
Speaker 1: arenas football, stadiums, orchestras, any sort of entertainment district, whatever
Speaker 1: it might be. And I'm not sure how it's going
Speaker 1: to work yet, but sometime soon, if you don't collect
Speaker 1: your money, the state's going to spend it on your behalf.
Speaker 1: So get that done. Secondly, I note with interest what
Speaker 1: happened with P Diddy. Diddy Combs, I said, going through
Speaker 1: this process is an extremely popular character in New York City.
Speaker 1: It's like OJ Simpson was a very popular person in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It didn't have the racial overtones because of
Speaker 1: the Rodney King situation in LA. But in New York City.
Speaker 1: P Diddy is extremely popular. And the jury drew from
Speaker 1: New York City was predominantly African American, and they listened
Speaker 1: to this prosecution. They did not buy the general argument
Speaker 1: the government, the FEDS, that there was a criminal syndicate
Speaker 1: operating a rico count and they did not buy the
Speaker 1: argument that grown women don't have the opportunity to leave,
Speaker 1: so account one was operating a criminal syndicate, that is,
Speaker 1: there were numerous individuals working in and around p didty
Speaker 1: Sean Combs is he related to Brian Combs, by the way,
Speaker 1: Is that a possibility Brian Combs and P Didty. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask Brian Combs that question. But they did not
Speaker 1: buy the idea that there were numerous acts being committed
Speaker 1: with the goal of having freak off parties and also
Speaker 1: the distribution of drugs. So the Rico Violation Rocketeer Influence
Speaker 1: Corruption Act, which carries up to thirty years in jail.
Speaker 1: They found him not guilty on that one. The second
Speaker 1: count was sex trafficking of Cassie Ventura. Now you may
Speaker 1: know what is and what is not sex trafficking. According
Speaker 1: to the Federal Statutes, trafficking and sex is a form
Speaker 1: of human trafficking is a serious crime involving in the troupment, harboring, transportation, providing,
Speaker 1: or obtaining of a person for the purpose of commercial
Speaker 1: sex acts induced by force, fraud, or coercion. So that
Speaker 1: means they sought to prove that p Didty recruited, maintained,
Speaker 1: and financed Cassie Ventura, the woman he kicked in the
Speaker 1: head in that hotel room video, with the purpose of
Speaker 1: engaging in commercial sex acts induced by force, fraud, or coercion.
Speaker 1: So or when the person involved is under the age
Speaker 1: of eighteen who can't give consent. So the jury implicitly
Speaker 1: found that Cassie Ventura, the so called girlfriend of P
Speaker 1: Ditty for eleven years, soaked up with her when she
Speaker 1: was nineteen, completed their various relationships when she was thirty
Speaker 1: eleven years, had opportunities to depart, and that there were numerous,
Speaker 1: in fact hundreds of text messages between Cassie Ventura and
Speaker 1: P Didty in which Cassie Ventura said, looking forward to
Speaker 1: the next freak off, I'll be I'll be your own
Speaker 1: little freak, you own me, et cetera, et cetera, and
Speaker 1: this one on for eleven years. So the jury did
Speaker 1: not buy the fact that P. Diddy was transporting her
Speaker 1: for the purpose of commercial sex acts induced by force, fraud,
Speaker 1: a coercion, which is a very serious offense, and that
Speaker 1: by itself each of them carried fifteen years in prison
Speaker 1: with mandatory jail time of fifteen years. So if you
Speaker 1: have coerced someone by force, fraud or coercion to engage
Speaker 1: in commercial sex acts, which is what was les by
Speaker 1: the government, you go to prison basically for the next
Speaker 1: fifteen years. The jury said Knababana didn't happen. Casey Ventura
Speaker 1: participated to a large extent in what happened to her.
Speaker 1: And as the Defense Council said, if Sean Combs was
Speaker 1: charged with domestic violence, we would have play guilty.
Speaker 2: But he's not charged with that. So they found in
Speaker 2: that case no, the third count, which is probationable and
Speaker 2: carries up to ten years in jail, involving the Man
Speaker 2: Act transporting a woman across state lines or shall I say,
Speaker 2: immoral purposes, among other things.
Speaker 1: The Man Act, which he was convicted of, is an
Speaker 1: act that made it the felaony to engage in interstate
Speaker 1: transport of any woman or girl for the purpose of
Speaker 1: prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose. Now
Speaker 1: that means if you meet a fine woman in Covington,
Speaker 1: a newport, and you trans transport her across the Ohio
Speaker 1: River in the hamlet a county, that is a felony
Speaker 1: that can carry up to ten years in federal prison.
Speaker 1: It is so for at least one hundred years. It
Speaker 1: was past, so I think in like nineteen thirteen or something.
Speaker 1: It's been ripe with amendments of one type or another
Speaker 1: the years ago and involved also women can transport men
Speaker 1: across state lines for immoral or debaucherous reasons.
Speaker 5: Men.
Speaker 1: We know that happens all the time, right, So it
Speaker 1: got rid of the gender exclusive aspects. But the purpose
Speaker 1: of that was to prevent, especially younger girls in the
Speaker 1: early part of the twentieth century, to be falling into
Speaker 1: these houses of prostitution out west, in which they were
Speaker 1: forced to engage in sexual acts, got drunk all the
Speaker 1: time in order to benefit the head of the saloon
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. And so he was convicted
Speaker 1: in count three p Diddy of man act transportation of
Speaker 1: cassi ventura across state lines for debaucherous or immoral purposes.
Speaker 1: I think we're can agree on that one.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: Count four is sex trafficking of another woman named Jane
Speaker 1: did not want or name used. Of course, her name
Speaker 1: was used in court center she testified openly, but the
Speaker 1: media has not published her name. And that sex trafficking
Speaker 1: had the same impact as count two, which is a
Speaker 1: fifteen year mandatory, which is a involving the recruitment, harboring, transportation, providing,
Speaker 1: or obtaining a person for the purposes of commercial sex
Speaker 1: acts induced by force, fraudic coersion. They found him not
Speaker 1: guilty that one too, and then the fifth count, which
Speaker 1: was the Man Act transportation again simply transporting Jane Doe
Speaker 1: across state lines for the bacherous reasons. So the jury
Speaker 1: in New York City convicted him not guilty on count one,
Speaker 1: Rico not guilty on count two, sex trafficking Cassi Ventura.
Speaker 1: Guilty is charge on the Man Act violation of transporting
Speaker 1: Cassi venture across state line for immoral reasons.
Speaker 2: We all can agree on that one. I think count
Speaker 2: four was sex trafficking of Jane Doe. She testified not
Speaker 2: guilty on that one, and then count five, I would
Speaker 2: be guilty of a Man Act violation, the federal Rico
Speaker 2: violation not guilty as a twenty year sentence with fifteen
Speaker 2: years mandatory, and the other two or fifteen year sentences.
Speaker 2: So if he was.
Speaker 1: Convicted of one, three, and five, he'd be looking at
Speaker 1: the rest of his life in jail without any question.
Speaker 1: I think he's about fifty four years old. On the
Speaker 1: other hand, and a typical case of a Man Act violation.
Speaker 1: May I say the system does not consider that to
Speaker 1: be a serious offense. It is so wide, so broad,
Speaker 1: the government could bring that charge against any man or
Speaker 1: woman who was in a car and went across the
Speaker 1: Ohio River, across Indiana into Michigan or West Virginia on
Speaker 1: a date, something that was agreed to, but the intent
Speaker 1: of the person doing the driving of the vehicle was
Speaker 1: somewhat debaucherus. So for many for a century, the Man
Speaker 1: Act has been, shall we say, not favored in the law.
Speaker 1: There's very few, if any prosecutions of a Man Act,
Speaker 1: and that was thrown in by the Feds in order
Speaker 1: to convict pdity of something. Some of the more notable
Speaker 1: individuals convicted of Man Act violations have included Charlie Chaplin,
Speaker 1: the comedian who met a woman who was twenty four
Speaker 1: years old, signed her to a contract and she became
Speaker 1: his mistress and that he would transport her around the
Speaker 1: country for immoral, illicit purposes and you know what they
Speaker 1: might be. And he was tried on that and the
Speaker 1: jury found him not guilty. And probably the most prominent
Speaker 1: Man Act conviction up to this one was Jack Johnson,
Speaker 1: the heavyweight champion of the world. In October November of
Speaker 1: nineteen twelve, boxer eavyweight champion Jack Johnson was arrested twice
Speaker 1: under the Man Act, acknowledging that the rest are racially
Speaker 1: motivated by the way he was pardoned by the trump
Speaker 1: Ster Donald Trump and Jack Johnson had white girlfriends and
Speaker 1: he would I support these girlfriends in New Jersey, New
Speaker 1: York cross state lines, and the system wanted to get
Speaker 1: Jack Johnson, by the way, pardoned by Donald Trump about
Speaker 1: five years ago, and he was convicted of man Act violations.
Speaker 1: Another one somewhat noted Charlie Manson, who in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: transported two prostitutes allegedly from California to Mexico, New Mexico
Speaker 1: to work. The charges were dropped. I'm sorry they had
Speaker 1: been dropped. Sharon Tate might still be alive today, and
Speaker 1: so in the history. And R Kelly was convicted of
Speaker 1: man AC violations of multiple sexual abuse trials for transporting
Speaker 1: women across state lines. What R Kelly did surviving R Kelly,
Speaker 1: if you've not seen the video, you may if you're
Speaker 1: interested in watching on Netflix. It is totally dis disgusting.
Speaker 1: And then also Gisline Maxwell in twenty twenty one was convicted.
Speaker 1: She was a socialight publishing rast charged with sex trafficking
Speaker 1: minors onf of Jeffrey Epstein, and she was sentenced to
Speaker 1: twenty years in jail. Found guilty of five or six
Speaker 1: counts of involving sex trafficking of miners, Now that's serious.
Speaker 1: Under eighteen, to have a sixteen or seventeen year old
Speaker 1: across state lines traffic for sexual purposes, that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: The law doesn't make a differential between over eighteen or
Speaker 1: under eighteen, only in the sense of more penalties. If
Speaker 1: it's under eighteen, it's twenty years. If the woman or
Speaker 1: a guess man is over eighteen years old, the maximum
Speaker 1: punishment is ten years in jail. Now, I quickly went
Speaker 1: over the federal sentencing guidelines, which, as you know if
Speaker 1: you've been in federal court, there are rather strict guidelines
Speaker 1: that the Feds have put through the Sentencing Commission on
Speaker 1: what happens to more or less equalize sentencing between New York,
Speaker 1: Ohio and the Mississippi and California and the federal system.
Speaker 1: It appears on a first time violator who's in his fifties.
Speaker 1: Put aside, if you can counts one, three, and five
Speaker 1: and all that all the evidence came out about that.
Speaker 1: Put aside the fact he was in charge with DV
Speaker 1: that he decided not to charge him with that. So
Speaker 1: if the only convictions in front of the sentencing judge
Speaker 1: are going to be transporting Cassie Ventura across state lines
Speaker 1: for immoral purposes, and that's it, the typical person would
Speaker 1: not receive a day in jail. But because it's Sean Combs,
Speaker 1: maybe related to Brian Combs aka P Diddy, it would
Speaker 1: be difficult, I think for this judge to disregard the
Speaker 1: evidence and counts one, three, and five, disregard the kicking
Speaker 1: of Cassie Ventura in the Intercontinental Hotel by the elevator,
Speaker 1: and simply give him a normal sentence, which would be probation.
Speaker 1: In fact, that if this was a normal case, the
Speaker 1: Feds never would not the case in the first place,
Speaker 1: because how many times just an art community does a
Speaker 1: man or a woman drive across the Ohio River with
Speaker 1: one or both of them having immoral thoughts about the other.
Speaker 2: That's called the man Act.
Speaker 1: So the criminal intent I if it wasn't, if it
Speaker 1: wasn't the other accoudiments around his case, he never would
Speaker 1: have been charged in the first place with Man Act
Speaker 1: transportation violations. They were like the at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the well. Just in case the jury found him not
Speaker 1: guilty of Rico, not guilty of sex trafficking, not guilty
Speaker 1: of sex trafficking Jane Doe, and this gives them something
Speaker 1: to get him convicted of something. When this was announced,
Speaker 1: as lawyers and P Diddy did a high five, and
Speaker 1: in fact, when the judge and the jerry left the courtroom,
Speaker 1: P did he dropped to his knees and cried out
Speaker 1: loud in glory, thanking God. I'm not sure God had
Speaker 1: much to do with it, but nonetheless, in a typical
Speaker 1: case number one, the charges would not have been brought.
Speaker 1: But in this case, if you're convicted of a man
Speaker 1: Act violation, you're eligible to get probation. Not too many
Speaker 1: men or women over the age of fifty are convicted
Speaker 1: in federal court with no previous violation in their life
Speaker 1: and are sentenced to federal prison. He's served about eighteen
Speaker 1: months already, so smart money says in a couple of
Speaker 1: months he'll get about two to four years in federal
Speaker 1: prison credit time served. It should be out in about
Speaker 1: a year or less. We'll see what happens. By the way,
Speaker 1: the judge is gonna hear arguments now about releasing him
Speaker 1: on bond, which he should be released on bond. He's
Speaker 1: found not guilty of the charges the government brought against him,
Speaker 1: that are the serious ones. Whether you like it or not,
Speaker 1: he was found not guilty. So he's willing to put
Speaker 1: up his Miami mansion other things, and have one hell
Speaker 1: of a cough later tonight.
Speaker 2: That's if he gets out.
Speaker 1: He doesn't get out, the defense team will go to
Speaker 1: the Second Circuit US Court of Appeals to try to
Speaker 1: get a bond set and then sentencing would be probably
Speaker 1: in four to eight weeks from now. And as I said,
Speaker 1: smart money says, consider everything. Considering everything, he's going to
Speaker 1: get some time in jail for this credit time served
Speaker 1: a course, maybe out in a year or two and
Speaker 1: that's it. And then put him on probation for five
Speaker 1: to ten put him on probation for five more years.
Speaker 1: If he screws up again, then he can violate probation
Speaker 1: and go back and serve a ten year sentence. On
Speaker 1: the other hand, do we know that p Didty is
Speaker 1: a killer? He's a murderer. Absolutely, his guys, he did
Speaker 1: run a criminal syndicate of sort in which he pictured
Speaker 1: himself as a bad dude.
Speaker 2: And if you crossed a P. Diddy.
Speaker 1: Your car was firebombed, your tires were slashed, and you
Speaker 1: had the crap beat out of you by his entourage.
Speaker 1: That's the reality. And right now, fifty cents life is
Speaker 1: worth about twenty five cents. Fifty cent and p Didd
Speaker 1: he's had a feud going on for a while, as
Speaker 1: Dave Keaton knows my producer, and so I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen with fifty cent. Who's been shot
Speaker 1: eight times? Oh, let's continue with more. We never stopped.
Speaker 1: We simply continue. After one o'clock today will be Vivak Ramaswami,
Speaker 1: the valedictorian of the two thousand Sandex High School graduating class,
Speaker 1: is running for governor, and Moore about all the issues
Speaker 1: about property tax relief, income taxes and more. Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: the Great American Live Tom of the Reds, kicking it
Speaker 1: off today at two twenty five to complete the first
Speaker 1: game from last night. Then the real game. The second
Speaker 1: game starts about seven oh five. All coverage is of
Speaker 1: course on news radio seven hundred WLW My Billy cunning
Speaker 1: Him the Great American, and of course Reds Baseball kicks
Speaker 1: off in about an hour and a half in Boston.
Speaker 1: They had a suspended games. They're losing two to one
Speaker 1: in the fourth or fifth. They're going to hopefully win
Speaker 1: two today. But until then, Vivek Ramaswami, the man who
Speaker 1: would be governor, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show
Speaker 1: in Vivek. First of all, before we talk about property
Speaker 1: tax relief two point seventy five percent flat tax. Before
Speaker 1: we talk about overriding governmental governor's vetos.
Speaker 2: Some I'm sixty seven of them.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Fundraising Hall, I saw this in the Columbus Dispatch. A
Speaker 1: record was set by you in raising money to become
Speaker 1: the next governor of Ohio. Please tell the American people
Speaker 1: what happened.
Speaker 6: Well, look, I think we have unprecedented unity in our
Speaker 6: Republican Party, Billy. At this point, I'm running unopposed in
Speaker 6: the Republican primary.
Speaker 4: We've achieved great unity.
Speaker 6: I've traveled over sixty of the counties in the state
Speaker 6: already in the last several months. We raised what now
Speaker 6: nine point seven million dollars in the first four months
Speaker 6: of this campaign, which sets a record in the history
Speaker 6: of our state for what a first quarter of fundraising
Speaker 6: looks like. And yet at the same time that's coming
Speaker 6: from bottom up donations forty thousand plus donor and a
Speaker 6: lot of these are small.
Speaker 4: Dollar donors as well.
Speaker 6: To me, that shows a grassroots uprising that really says
Speaker 6: that we want to take our state to the next level.
Speaker 6: And that's the message that really is getting people aboard
Speaker 6: this campaign across the state, up and down. Billy is
Speaker 6: We're not just leading Ohio to be one of the
Speaker 6: best in the Midwest, because frankly, we are already the
Speaker 6: best in the Midwest. I'm in this toled Ohio to
Speaker 6: be the top state in the country, to raise a
Speaker 6: young family, to build a business, to give our kids
Speaker 6: a world class education. And the fact that as a
Speaker 6: first time statewide candidate here we're able to achieve this
Speaker 6: level of unity not just in our Republican party, but
Speaker 6: to have even in that base of donors, many independents,
Speaker 6: many first time political donors, forty thousand of them, and
Speaker 6: to break fundraising records when you have seasoned political veterans
Speaker 6: that have historically been the ones who have run for governor.
Speaker 6: I think it just says a lot less about me,
Speaker 6: but more about the energy that we have in our
Speaker 6: state for this new vision and Vivike.
Speaker 1: When you talk to the power brokers, of which you're
Speaker 1: not a part. When I talk to those who have
Speaker 1: raised money for a long time and some of the
Speaker 1: gray beards, they want a Republican party like a country
Speaker 1: club Republican party and not a cloth coat Republican party.
Speaker 1: When you say, like, we're going to make the states
Speaker 1: so much better for those who've been entrenched in power
Speaker 1: for a long time, they don't want to hear that.
Speaker 1: They think the state's already wonderful, can't be any better.
Speaker 1: So when vivike Ramaswami comes horizontally to politics, not vertically,
Speaker 1: some of the power brokers say, well, who the hell
Speaker 1: is this guy? Even though he was the valedictorian the
Speaker 1: Senate class, he spent a lot of time out and
Speaker 1: out west or he's a billionaire and he's he's here
Speaker 1: now in Ohio. Who in the hell is the vike Ramaswami?
Speaker 1: Why does he think he can be the next governor?
Speaker 1: And we have a lineup of other shall we see
Speaker 1: officeholders ready to take over? Why does vivike Ramaswami want
Speaker 1: to do this when you're a billionaire already.
Speaker 6: Sometimes members of my family have asked me that question
Speaker 6: as well.
Speaker 4: Billy.
Speaker 6: But when you have a call to serve, you can't
Speaker 6: put that call back in the bottle, right And I
Speaker 6: think we're each put here for a purpose. This country,
Speaker 6: in this state, frankly, has allowed me to achieve an
Speaker 6: American dream at a height that my parents would have
Speaker 6: never imagined when we were born and raised in Cincinnati,
Speaker 6: growing up in Westchester, and then growing up in Evendale,
Speaker 6: Ohio after that. This is what makes this country extraordinary
Speaker 6: is that now I'm in a position to lead that
Speaker 6: very state. After founding successful businesses, after marrying my wife, Aporva,
Speaker 6: who's one of the most successful throat surgeons.
Speaker 4: In the country. She's at Ohio State.
Speaker 6: She's lived the American dream, the kid of immigrants to
Speaker 6: this country who came here again with little to their name.
Speaker 6: The extraordinary thing about that story is that it's not
Speaker 6: that extraordinary in the United States of America, and I
Speaker 6: don't think it should be extraordinary in the state of
Speaker 6: Ohio either. I want every one of the kids born
Speaker 6: and raised in our state to be able to live
Speaker 6: that same American dream.
Speaker 4: That even greater high that I have.
Speaker 6: But that's going to take I think somebody who's willing
Speaker 6: to lead our state to the next level. Somebody is
Speaker 6: willing to be ambitious. And I want to bring that
Speaker 6: sense of ambition back to our country, our culture, our state,
Speaker 6: our politics, to say that we're the state to put
Speaker 6: a man in the moon. We're the state that sent
Speaker 6: the first.
Speaker 4: American into orbit around the Earth.
Speaker 6: We're the state that sent the Right brothers to fly
Speaker 6: at a moment they were told to believe that was impossible.
Speaker 6: I think that ambition is part of our heritage as Ohio,
Speaker 6: It's part of our heritage as the United States of America.
Speaker 4: And I want us to aspire.
Speaker 6: To more, to be more ambitious in education, in academics,
Speaker 6: to be more ambitious from science to the arts, to
Speaker 6: economic ambition, to even ambition in what we hope to
Speaker 6: achieve for our kids, Spiritually ambitious, morally ambitious in every
Speaker 6: domain of our life, to expect more of ourselves. And
Speaker 6: yet in order to do that, I don't think it's
Speaker 6: going to take a politician from yesterday's model of coming
Speaker 6: out on an assembly line that produces politicians that climb
Speaker 6: the rungs of a ladder and then end up in
Speaker 6: the seat of governor, inspiring their whole life to do it.
Speaker 4: That has not been my life aspiration. I promise you
Speaker 4: that you bring up the same point in your question.
Speaker 6: I've never set up my whole life with the goal
Speaker 6: of being a governor or even being a politician. But
Speaker 6: I'm in this because I've lived that American dream. I
Speaker 6: think it's going to take a businessman and someone with
Speaker 6: an entrepreneur's mentality to bring that ambition of leading our
Speaker 6: state to the next level. And I'll be glad to
Speaker 6: work with many of the people, and we will work
Speaker 6: with many of the people who have that experience in
Speaker 6: our state to be able to not only bring the ambition,
Speaker 6: but actually get things done, like moving to zero income taxation,
Speaker 6: like putting a cap on property taxation, like lifting up
Speaker 6: our educational standards.
Speaker 4: I'm not just going to talk about it. Really, we're
Speaker 4: going to get it done.
Speaker 6: That's part of an entrepreneur's mentality too, and that requires
Speaker 6: working with many of those people who have been experienced
Speaker 6: in state government, most of.
Speaker 4: Whom are already supporting me in the state.
Speaker 6: But it's going to be that team effort led by
Speaker 6: a businessman, an entrepreneur, and at this point in our history,
Speaker 6: a political outsider at the top to help get Ohio
Speaker 6: to be the top state in the country, not just
Speaker 6: living in the shadow of.
Speaker 4: Texas and Florida.
Speaker 6: If we do our jobs right, it's going to be
Speaker 6: Texas and Florida.
Speaker 4: Following Ohio's lead, not the other way around.
Speaker 1: Foraveke Ramaswami, you talk about a zero percent income tax.
Speaker 1: Right now, the state budget appears to be a flat
Speaker 1: tax of two point seventy five percent. And when I
Speaker 1: talked to Matt Huffman and others in Columbus, they tell
Speaker 1: me there's a potential catastrophe coming next year that you'll
Speaker 1: have to deal with, and that is that if Ohioans
Speaker 1: vote to eliminate all real estate taxes and Vivek Ramaswami
Speaker 1: wants to eliminate all income taxes, I'm told by Huffman
Speaker 1: and others that the sales tax would have to be
Speaker 1: like twenty percent to make up the differential.
Speaker 2: There's no such a thing as the three.
Speaker 4: Look, there's a lot of extrapolation going on there.
Speaker 6: First of all, there's saying that if there's a new
Speaker 6: ballot measure that does eliminate the property tax, obviously in
Speaker 6: that scenario we'd have to take a revised look. But
Speaker 6: the catastrophe that I see is actually the catastrophe of
Speaker 6: property taxes being way too high and burdening Ohioans in
Speaker 6: a way that too many of our politicians have ignored
Speaker 6: for too long. Correct And to be clear, I want
Speaker 6: to praise the legislature for getting to a flat income tax.
Speaker 6: I think that's a great step forward. But I also
Speaker 6: think that you know, at least as where we're sitting today,
Speaker 6: there is no major property tax reform that people have
Speaker 6: been clamoring for. And I do think that property tax
Speaker 6: reform is necessary. And so if people across the state
Speaker 6: are clamoring, and they are with good reasons, paying more
Speaker 6: in their property taxes than they do on the principle
Speaker 6: and interest repayments on their mortgage combined, that's unjust.
Speaker 4: It's Unamerican.
Speaker 6: It's antithetical to our values in Ohio. It's your land,
Speaker 6: not the governments. But when you're paying more in property
Speaker 6: taxes than you are on your principle and interest on
Speaker 6: your mortgage, it feels like the land that you own
Speaker 6: is really just the least from the government, and that's wrong.
Speaker 6: So it's the job of elected leaders to stand up
Speaker 6: and live that reform that our people need that they're
Speaker 6: clamoring for, and if they don't, then you know what,
Speaker 6: the people are going to take it into their own
Speaker 6: hands and do.
Speaker 4: It via constitutional amendment. But what I will say is
Speaker 4: that I'm prepared as governor to look to the future of.
Speaker 6: Bringing down property taxes, putting a ceiling on them, while
Speaker 6: also sensibly putting our state on the path to zero
Speaker 6: income tax. If that ballot measure passed, we'd obviously have
Speaker 6: to rethink the overall approach to tax policy.
Speaker 4: It'd be a zero property tax then.
Speaker 6: But my view is we have a coherent plan to
Speaker 6: both cap property taxes as well as to take income
Speaker 6: tax including capital gains taxation, down to zero in our
Speaker 6: state to make Ohio the most competitive state in the
Speaker 6: country for entrepreneurs and younger workers to move into to
Speaker 6: remain in. So many of our young people, Billy, you
Speaker 6: know this, they'll leave our state to pursue opportunity elsewhere
Speaker 6: after getting educated here. I want to turn that ship around,
Speaker 6: not by forcing them to stay here, but by making
Speaker 6: this so obviously the state we're the best opportun unities
Speaker 6: are available to them, and that means that we have
Speaker 6: to compete with Texas and Tennessee and Florida states that
Speaker 6: are zero income tax states. Today, so many of our
Speaker 6: people are flocking and I'm not going to be a
Speaker 6: governor of a state where people are leaving. I want
Speaker 6: to be a governor of a state where we have
Speaker 6: people and businesses moving in and moving back in. That's
Speaker 6: what motivates me to run, and it's a big part
Speaker 6: of why I think it is going to take someone
Speaker 6: coming from the outside to lead our state to the
Speaker 6: next level. A great state already, I want to give
Speaker 6: credit where.
Speaker 4: Credit is due.
Speaker 6: We're a great state, but great is not good enough.
Speaker 6: We want to be the greatest version of ourselves. And
Speaker 6: that's where I'm here to lead us. Veg Ramaswami. We
Speaker 6: have cities and collapse.
Speaker 1: Of course, you're a Cincinnati, and I think the last
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and we had his governor was probably John Jay Gilligan,
Speaker 1: and I thought he ran with good funeral homes, but
Speaker 1: he was terrible. But nonetheless, you may not be aware
Speaker 1: of this, but Cincinnati is in the throes of a
Speaker 1: terrible crime wave in which every year, according to a
Speaker 1: shot spotterer, there's about twenty thres thousand shots fired in
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati and about ten different zip codes.
Speaker 1: We have hundreds of people that are wounded. We had
Speaker 1: another rash of shootings last night. The night before we
Speaker 1: had five. We have a police force which is down
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty cops. We have many judges that
Speaker 1: don't want to send people to prison. The governor's job,
Speaker 1: I guess, not specifically about crime, and I would think Cleveland, Toledo, Dayton, Columbus.
Speaker 1: I don't know much about Columbus, but I assume it's
Speaker 1: not much different. Just as the son of immigrants and
Speaker 1: a person of color, why do we have such unspeakable
Speaker 1: violence in urban areas? Because we can't be a great
Speaker 1: city and great state unless we have great cities. And
Speaker 1: right now there's fleeing out of Cincinnati and Columbus and
Speaker 1: Dayton and Toledo and Cleveland. And what can you say
Speaker 1: to those that see crime as the way out of
Speaker 1: the circumstances in which they find themselves. We can't be
Speaker 1: a great state with lousy cities.
Speaker 6: Look, I don't speak as a person of color, or
Speaker 6: as a Republican or any other label. Let's put it aside,
Speaker 6: because I don't view everything through a racialized lens. What
Speaker 6: I view it through the lens of consense. Most Americans,
Speaker 6: I don't care whether you're black, white, brown, or anything
Speaker 6: in between. I don't even care whether you're a Democrat
Speaker 6: or Republican. Most Americans believe correctly that we are founded
Speaker 6: on the rule of law, and we've got to apply
Speaker 6: that rule of law even handily in all directions. And
Speaker 6: right now, the fact of the matter is the police
Speaker 6: in our cities are not fully equipped and able to
Speaker 6: do their jobs well. I don't want them to look
Speaker 6: over their shoulders the fear of being sued. I want
Speaker 6: them to be able to apply the rule of law
Speaker 6: regardless of I don't want people to bring any color,
Speaker 6: color focused or raised focused lens in a color blind way,
Speaker 6: in a neutral manner to restore law and order to
Speaker 6: actually apply the laws we already have on the books.
Speaker 6: In many cases, we don't need new laws. Arguably, I
Speaker 6: think in the country and even in the state, we
Speaker 6: have too many laws and it's very confusing for people
Speaker 6: in ordinary citizens to follow them. What we need is
Speaker 6: simple laws that are actually enforced in an even handed way.
Speaker 6: I don't think that's too much to ask. This is
Speaker 6: not about left versus right. This is about up versus down.
Speaker 6: It's about common sentence, and that's certainly what I want
Speaker 6: to bring to the leadership of our state. But there,
Speaker 6: I say, Billie, hopefully in a way that sets the
Speaker 6: standard for other states across our country as well. I
Speaker 6: was in Los Angeles a couple of weeks ago the
Speaker 6: areas where buildings were being defaced. Earlier this month. I
Speaker 6: was in Minnesota as earlier this month, in the last
Speaker 6: month as well. These are states where when I say
Speaker 6: we're the best in the Midwest, I can confirm that
Speaker 6: after having visited Minnesota, we are the best.
Speaker 4: In the Midwest.
Speaker 6: But it's sad because I've had a story from somebody
Speaker 6: who was in Minnesota who told me that he had
Speaker 6: had a hole in the glass of his car put
Speaker 6: there because of the bumper sticker he had in the
Speaker 6: back of his car.
Speaker 4: That's not America. That's not American.
Speaker 6: If we disagree with one another, let's settle it at
Speaker 6: the ballot box, through civil discourse and debate at our best,
Speaker 6: even getting together at the dinner table at the end
Speaker 6: of it. That's the Cincinnati I grew up into, That's
Speaker 6: the Ohio I grew up into, and that's the Ohio
Speaker 6: in the America I want to bring back to our country.
Speaker 6: But it does start with an even handed enforcement of
Speaker 6: the rule of law. We're fully behind our police, We're
Speaker 6: fully behind our sheriff's offices across the state, many of
Speaker 6: whom I've already visited with to bring back that common
Speaker 6: sense of law and order. Frankly, some of it starts
Speaker 6: even at a young age. Billy, one of the things
Speaker 6: I want to do in our educational reform is actually
Speaker 6: to give teachers, especially in our inner cities, something they've
Speaker 6: been clamoring for, something they've been asking for but have
Speaker 6: been falling on deaf ears. We have the ability to
Speaker 6: bring discipline back to the classroom many principles. Many teachers
Speaker 6: no longer can discipline a student, even for issuing threats,
Speaker 6: sometimes even for physical violence that teachers' hands are tied.
Speaker 4: That wasn't that way in the nineteen nineties, and I
Speaker 4: think it's wrong today.
Speaker 6: I think we need it to be able to be
Speaker 6: a state of common sense that sets the standard for
Speaker 6: the United States. Eighty plus percent of US across the country,
Speaker 6: and I believe more than eighty plus percent of us
Speaker 6: in Ohio are rooting for that outcome there's a governor.
Speaker 6: That's what I want to bring, not in a partisan way,
Speaker 6: but in a unifying way. Even as parents of children
Speaker 6: in the next generation, that's part of what we.
Speaker 4: Want for our kids.
Speaker 6: I'm a father of two sons, and I speak for
Speaker 6: my wife and I both when I say this is
Speaker 6: we want them to grow up into a country, in
Speaker 6: a state where law and order is respected, where they're
Speaker 6: in an education system where there's a sense of order
Speaker 6: and discipline. That's part of what it means to be
Speaker 6: an educated citizen in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 4: That's part of what we're going to bring here and
Speaker 4: it's a big part of why I'm in this race.
Speaker 1: Well, we have to run, but viveg Ramaswami, you've set
Speaker 1: records when it comes to fundraising. And we can't be
Speaker 1: a great nation when New York is run by a
Speaker 1: communist named Mom Donnie that Johnson and Chicago is in
Speaker 1: complete collapse. The school system is awful in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: the skid row and fornication, and you're a nation all
Speaker 1: over city streets and there's ten cities, one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: homeless and two hundred thousand gang members in the city
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, and I want Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland, Toledo, Dayton.
Speaker 1: I went to law school in Toledo to be shining
Speaker 1: cities on the hill and right now they're not. And
Speaker 1: it's said, we can't be a great state with lousy
Speaker 1: cities and vivek Ramaswami. We'll see what happens down the road.
Speaker 1: But once again, thanks for checking in to your hometown
Speaker 1: here in Cincinnati. And may God bless you and God
Speaker 1: bless America. I have a great Fourth of July you
Speaker 1: and your family. Thank you, Avic.
Speaker 4: Happy for my friend.
Speaker 2: Take care, God bless America.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more your reaction five one, three, seven,
Speaker 1: four nine, seven thousand Reds Baseball starts in about a
Speaker 1: little over an hour on news radio seven hundred.
Speaker 2: WW.
Speaker 7: I guess, Jacks Pakh, this is not a nice business.
Speaker 7: I guess that's the gotchat that you.
Speaker 4: You know, the stakes are fast, but Ali, it is a.
Speaker 7: Mgwood to teach him how to run away from an hour? Yeah, okay, kay,
Speaker 7: prison had a run away. Don't run in a straight
Speaker 7: line up like this and you know what, Your chances
Speaker 7: go off about one percent?
Speaker 2: Hello, whyet skulls I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 5: Keeck.
Speaker 1: If you find yourself an alligator Alcatraz and the alligators
Speaker 1: are coming your way with Ted McKay, you're running the
Speaker 1: straight line or do you go like this zigzag?
Speaker 2: Well, if you zig zag, then there's another eleven twelve
Speaker 2: foot are on their left and right and in front
Speaker 2: of you and then back. I think it's a beautiful idea. Well,
Speaker 2: I just saw a picture on X. I guess they
Speaker 2: had a rainstorm down there. The place is already flooded.
Speaker 2: All I can tell you is it when it rains
Speaker 2: in Florida, Ben Go, It rains and we're talking about rain. Correct,
Speaker 2: you're in the southern It rain and it's sunshine. That
Speaker 2: sun is out, and where's the rain coming from? Comes over?
Speaker 1: There's some sort of pump system working between the Everglades
Speaker 1: and the Gulf of America, between the two of them.
Speaker 2: When that rains, it rains. Would you so if you're
Speaker 2: if you're it rains so and so and you are
Speaker 2: in Alligator Alcatraz, you're always asking me this, what what
Speaker 2: would you do? And you escape? Would it be alligators
Speaker 2: or Burmese pythons that would you like to get a
Speaker 2: hold of? Would you rather die by eating by an
Speaker 2: alligator or squeeze the death bi python? Those are your choices.
Speaker 2: What do you Pick's that tough? If you want to
Speaker 2: go quick, it's you know, gator time, it's supple, hold
Speaker 2: on and just roll you for a while, then soften
Speaker 2: you up well, and then you know everybody, everybody gets
Speaker 2: a meal then, because because they're all going to crowd around,
Speaker 2: right and in your case, so one part of you
Speaker 2: could go in one one part of you going the other.
Speaker 2: Not good. No, And then but a python, I mean
Speaker 2: I don't think he could eat you can.
Speaker 1: He could swallow? Yeah, he squeezes into death then and
Speaker 1: he can assumes you no question.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. Would you haven't
Speaker 2: answered the question. I don't know. I'm not going down
Speaker 2: there a rock python. I'm not going down there. Who's
Speaker 2: the warden? Donald Trump? I thought it was. I thought
Speaker 2: Richard K. Jones was taking vacation time to go down there,
Speaker 2: and he would love that.
Speaker 5: Hell.
Speaker 2: Lastly, yeah, we got the Man Act. Waiting for Dean
Speaker 2: Gregory to call. He's not called Okay, this is.
Speaker 1: The Man Act. This is what p Diddy Cobs was
Speaker 1: convicted of. One reason Brian Combs, doesn't it report on
Speaker 1: p Diddy Combs. Yeah, they're related. So Brian Combs refuses
Speaker 1: to cover the story. Is that correct?
Speaker 2: I guess. So you'll have to ask.
Speaker 7: Here.
Speaker 2: Here's the Man Act named after the main man, Robert
Speaker 2: Man of Illinois in nineteen ten. By the way, he
Speaker 2: was the president of nineteen ten Woodrow Oh William Howard Tawn.
Speaker 2: He didn't go right there. Now, he invented the seventh
Speaker 2: inning stretch. You know that he needed to stretch more
Speaker 2: than the seventh innut, that's for sure. Now, this is
Speaker 2: the penalty. Any man who transports a woman or a
Speaker 2: girl okay, for the purpose of prostitution or debacherous or
Speaker 2: other immoral reasons across the state line can be charged
Speaker 2: with violation of the Man Act. How many times in
Speaker 2: company and took her somewhere in Cincinnati with the bocherous intent?
Speaker 2: And how manybody but me, how many times have some
Speaker 2: woman in Cincinnati took you to the quality in Rotating
Speaker 2: hotel and coventant for a moral reasons segment that she
Speaker 2: committed the vibu to dinner there in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1: That was it, Well, it was meant to address prostitution
Speaker 1: and moral behavior. And that was during the progressive era
Speaker 1: in which the booze was going to be outlawed and
Speaker 1: that women could not be uh walked across state lines
Speaker 1: for bocherous intent.
Speaker 2: Do you think maybe P did? He had an and
Speaker 2: so what's your gun? Get are all liquored up? So
Speaker 2: what's your what's your what's your guy? P? Didd he
Speaker 2: looking at? Now? What the god? You guys get guilty
Speaker 2: on two of the five the guidelines called for like
Speaker 2: two years. That's nothing, nothing at all. Wow, I don't know,
Speaker 2: It's all I can tell you. So the United States
Speaker 2: did a bad They they look kind of bad. Well,
Speaker 2: all I can say is yes, okay, yes, lawyers didn't
Speaker 2: do a good job. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The Rico was a stretch, but then also human trafficking
Speaker 1: was a stretch.
Speaker 2: But the Man Act was a layup. How many how
Speaker 2: many men? Are women?
Speaker 1: Could be convicted of that segment? Do you have immoral
Speaker 1: reasons at all?
Speaker 2: I think the alligator Alcatraz probably would be packed thinking
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: We have Dean Gregory joining us now from the Montgomery ending.
Speaker 2: They got all you could eat Friday? Welly, this is
Speaker 2: the greatest. The ribs you haven't eat in twenty four
Speaker 2: hours already. I amen to that. I'm a fasting until Friday.
Speaker 2: Do you know?
Speaker 1: Tell me about the big event on Friday at Montgomery
Speaker 1: in segment wants to be their first fast and factual.
Speaker 8: I don't have a lot of time because I had
Speaker 8: free semi trucks full of barbecue, full of ribs. We're
Speaker 8: going to cook for Friday in.
Speaker 5: Our parking lot right now, but we tracked.
Speaker 8: In order to celeb at fort July this year. By
Speaker 8: popular demand, we're going to bring back all the ribs
Speaker 8: you can eat for one day.
Speaker 2: If you factor on this segment and that equation I.
Speaker 5: Wanted to send my trucks is for him. Thank you
Speaker 5: good ship.
Speaker 2: So when does it begin, Dina? When is it end?
Speaker 2: Give me all the f I need the facts. I
Speaker 2: don't need bs. I need the facts for sure.
Speaker 8: For twelve o'clock noon to eight o'clock on Friday for
Speaker 8: the July eat ribs and come out in the park
Speaker 8: and watch the fireworks later on. It'll be a wonderful day.
Speaker 1: How many ribs are you talking about, Dino? How many?
Speaker 1: How many ribs? How many ribs they have a number
Speaker 1: of how many bones?
Speaker 2: How many bones?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: Probably a couple of times, a couple of tons of bones.
Speaker 2: That'll be good enough for me.
Speaker 1: And uh segment to know about carry out? He wants
Speaker 1: to have carry out orders and seg take carrying.
Speaker 8: No carry out, no carry out, no shared plate?
Speaker 2: What about I'm not sharing nobody. You don't have to
Speaker 2: worry about that.
Speaker 1: I want some chips and some straw What about chips
Speaker 1: and onion straws?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I lost you for second.
Speaker 8: All the Saratoga chips you can eat.
Speaker 2: Too, Segment, how about that? I'll be there at eleven
Speaker 2: fifty five get out of the way with Ted McKay.
Speaker 2: What does that cost? If anything? Do you know?
Speaker 5: I believe it's thirty five a pittance.
Speaker 2: To someone like the segment.
Speaker 1: Now, I want to go back in time to number
Speaker 1: eleven of was Saneville Country Clubs. We're there with the
Speaker 1: great We're there with Wayne Carucci, as you might remember,
Speaker 1: and uh one or two other my derelic friends. I
Speaker 1: think Johnny Kraft was there. Not sure, Mike McCall and Uh,
Speaker 1: you're on the tee of number eleven in Lasanderville, which
Speaker 1: is a treacherous, difficult long par four correct.
Speaker 5: Treacherous, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And you're my partner. All the money you want to down.
Speaker 1: We lost twenty bucks on the front, you want to
Speaker 1: bet for forty bucks on the back. I don't like
Speaker 1: playing golf for that kind of money, but I agreed,
Speaker 1: and it was a stroke hold for you.
Speaker 2: And you're on the tee.
Speaker 1: It's about four hundred and twenty yard par four, and
Speaker 1: you get your drive, You go through your routine and
Speaker 1: it got up. You got on your back floor and
Speaker 1: at some point you're ready to pull the trigger. You
Speaker 1: then bring the club back, swing the driver and the
Speaker 1: ball goes backwards, and then you quickly said, don't count that.
Speaker 1: Do you recall that moment?
Speaker 8: I am not embarrassed about that.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, a little bit embarrassing, that was for sure.
Speaker 1: And then another time we played, might have been a
Speaker 1: number ten of las Aneville. You on the tee, kind
Speaker 1: of a short part four.
Speaker 2: You hit your driver and the ball went off your
Speaker 2: tee as you're hitting it and hits the ball mark
Speaker 2: and it hits the tee marker about ten feet to
Speaker 2: the right of you. You recall that trick shot.
Speaker 5: To put the trick of not too many people to
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 2: Well, you're telling me. I don't think Tiger would could
Speaker 2: have done that in his prime.
Speaker 5: No way, no way out.
Speaker 2: Then, Now, will you actually be present on July fourth?
Speaker 2: Will you be president? Can people come and see you?
Speaker 5: I will be here till probably five o'clock.
Speaker 1: Er, all right, I may stop down to sale. Oh,
Speaker 1: I got nothing else to do. We see you, all right, Dino?
Speaker 2: Once again.
Speaker 1: All you're gonna eat Friday, Montgomery and Montgomery and also
Speaker 1: the boat house and all you can eat ReBs noon
Speaker 1: to noon to eight o'clock.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 5: Yes, sir.
Speaker 8: And I'm gonna bring to you guys. I know you
Speaker 8: guys might be busy, but I'm gonna bring ribs up
Speaker 8: for your crew one day.
Speaker 1: Let us know at one thirty ribs, Sega ribs welcome
Speaker 1: here at all?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I'll welcome and man, nobody else
Speaker 2: will get anything. And also the Walgo Burger Walgoo Wednesdays.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. There you go, all right, Din know
Speaker 2: you're the best.
Speaker 1: God bless you, Thank you so Mutino, thank you. Say
Speaker 1: could anyone in golf hit a driver ball on the
Speaker 1: tee and hit it backwards?
Speaker 2: Maybe I could? I said, don't cut down. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you I didn't see anything, alright, sake, Please, you're not
Speaker 2: answering my question about the Man Act. What do you
Speaker 2: want me to say about it? Have you transported a
Speaker 2: woman or girl now the purpose of prostitution or debauchery,
Speaker 2: or for any immoral purpose? No? Across state lines? No
Speaker 2: have you done that? Nor have you? And say will
Speaker 2: he the stood reporters of proud service of your local
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, let's see. The Reds and Red Sox will
Speaker 2: resume that suspended game from last night in the fourth
Speaker 2: inning with Boston up two to one. Sam Mall. Sam
Speaker 2: Mall will be on the mound for the Reds when
Speaker 2: the game resumes today. He's at two twenty five right
Speaker 2: here on seven hundred WLW. He's a lefty. Regularly scheduled
Speaker 2: game tonight six' Ten Sports talk r Or No Carriers
Speaker 2: Inside pitch and Then Kelsey Chevrolet Extra Inning show after the. Game,
Speaker 2: Now Novellie. Marte his rehab assignment was moved to TRIPLE A.
Speaker 2: Louisville he spelt at A Grand slam last. Night get
Speaker 2: him up with the, Bats get him, Up Hunter. Green
Speaker 2: according To Charlie, goldsmith get him, in get him ang of.
Speaker 2: All Hunter green has completed as live batting practice on inting.
Speaker 2: Five batters said he was good to be back on the.
Speaker 2: Mound felt, strong pitches a. Solid he will pitch again
Speaker 2: over the weekend In, philadelphia then off to a rehab.
Speaker 1: Assignment Second congress and eight And congress in nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: eight and nineteen eighty. Six, yeah eliminate it and changed
Speaker 1: The Man act to include transporting a woman or man
Speaker 1: for the purpose of prostitution or other illegal sexual.
Speaker 2: Acts have you ever done?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: One, no go, ahead let's. SEE i want to think about. That,
Speaker 1: yeah go, ahead let's see. Tennis more upsets today At.
Speaker 1: Wimbledon I'm noriri Of, britain upsetting number Twelve Francis tfo
Speaker 1: and then number. Two carlos Alcatraz is moved on number
Speaker 1: six around A sablenka and also number Six Madison keys also.
Speaker 1: Won katie McNally tomorrow takes on number eight Seed English.
Speaker 1: Waytech On, Thursday.
Speaker 2: Jack johnson was the most famous person convicted of The Man.
Speaker 2: Act he dated white women. Segment this is the heavyweight
Speaker 2: champion in nineteen. Thirteen oh the, way he was president
Speaker 2: of nineteen. Thirteen william Aer, taft No, harding No, arthur
Speaker 2: no From New. JERSEY i have No Woodrow.
Speaker 1: Wilson but he transported white women across state lines for
Speaker 1: in moral.
Speaker 2: Reasons that's not. Good let's see what. Else and Also
Speaker 2: Frank Lloyd, wright the architect what was accused of violating
Speaker 2: The Man. Act he was a Resident, Minnetoka, minnesota but
Speaker 2: the charges are dropped when certain greenbacks made an. Appearance
Speaker 2: and then you also Have Gislaine, maxwell one of your,
Speaker 2: buddies you, know with The epstein.
Speaker 5: File she was.
Speaker 1: Convicted they changed the law to include women as perpetrators
Speaker 1: of taking men across state lines for more.
Speaker 2: Reasons now that's what's happened to you many.
Speaker 1: Times many TIMES i had women in their minds do
Speaker 1: nasty things to. Me and she was convicted of that
Speaker 1: along with sex, trafficking which is a problem because he
Speaker 1: did he was found not guilty of. Trafficking what's her
Speaker 1: name for, Sex. Cassie and Also Jane, doe but was
Speaker 1: convicted of the lesser, offensive taking her across state lines.
Speaker 2: For he got nothing for kicking his girlfriend on that. Video.
Speaker 2: Nothing so what's that mean you? GET i mean gone
Speaker 2: because they'rey. Stupid well, probably but the statue ran on
Speaker 2: that when it happened in twenty. Sixteen the only reason
Speaker 2: they could save the statue was the statue doesn't begin
Speaker 2: to run till the last act was committed and in
Speaker 2: pursuit of The rico, violator so that's why it. Was
Speaker 2: but they couldn't charge him with that one because the
Speaker 2: statue did run on that. One but that was part
Speaker 2: of the evidence account, one three and. Five you know
Speaker 2: What i'm, saying Doesn't rico violate or play for The
Speaker 2: reds or? Something rico used to play With Rico carti
Speaker 2: was his. Name Randy rico's On channel. Five she's Wrapping
Speaker 2: Randy rico to. You Sean diddy. Convicted we say all
Speaker 2: The we say all the best of popular halftime Reporter.
Speaker 2: Willie i'm sure you've seen her at Various xavier games at.
Speaker 2: Halftime Red panda injured last night in a performance in
Speaker 2: THE wnba In. Minneapolis was she ride that that unicycle
Speaker 2: eight feet off the ground and balances bowls on her.
Speaker 2: Head i've seen that she fell last night and hurt.
Speaker 2: Herself oh, no, yeah what's her name, Again Red. PANDA
Speaker 2: i saw her at A xavior. Game she did things
Speaker 2: nobody could do. Well she had a little problem last,
Speaker 2: night fell down wrist and her back. End so she
Speaker 2: was juggling balls on a. Unicide, no, bowls, balls bowls
Speaker 2: balls that she flips them up in The montgomery end.
Speaker 1: RIBS i think mongumery and. Riffs so she had, bowls bowls,
Speaker 1: right not b a. Ls, no she had bowles and
Speaker 1: then she would get them and throw them up in
Speaker 1: the air and catch them.
Speaker 2: In, Unison indianapolis on a short list of the city's
Speaker 2: now interested in AN nhl expansion. Team the cost for
Speaker 2: an expansion fee to run in THE nhl now is
Speaker 2: two billion. Dollars where Is Andy furman when we need?
Speaker 2: Them Ferball, Atlanta, Houston New, orleans And, Austin texas want
Speaker 2: to be in the running two million dollars for this
Speaker 2: two billion to get into the THE. Nhl you're making that. Up,
Speaker 2: no it's right. Here according to The Daily Face, Off, eh,
Speaker 2: yeah sounds like. Hockey SO i say bring back The
Speaker 2: atlanta Of, flames The Houston, arrows and The Indianapolis. Racers
Speaker 2: that's Where Wayne gretzky.
Speaker 1: Started it can't be two billion segment two billion dollars
Speaker 1: for a, team right an expansion. Fee you're making it.
Speaker 1: Up i'm just saying it's two. Million, Also, willie on
Speaker 1: this date eighty eight years, ago What.
Speaker 2: Amelia earhart's plane disappeared in The South pacific as in
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty, seven and they think a hurricane or a
Speaker 2: typhoon off this island in the middle of, nowhere there
Speaker 2: is a picture of a plane in the. Sand what
Speaker 2: she's been? Located, WELL i mean at least the. Plane
Speaker 2: she still. Alive. No, also this Is WORLD Ufo. Day
Speaker 2: that was a stupid. Question let's. See also we say
Speaker 2: happy birthday to the. Mayor number twenty one just heard
Speaker 2: his hand for of, All, no not, him he's worried
Speaker 2: about his. Haircut Sean, casey number twenty one forever birthday,
Speaker 2: today and then number eighty eight is eighty eighth birthday.
Speaker 2: Today sean did he combs no to the? King not
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Speaker 2: No Jerry, Lawler, No, No Richard, petty he's The, King
Speaker 2: he's the eighty eight years young today For Richard, PETTY
Speaker 2: i Thought trump was the. King they're mad at, that you,
Speaker 2: know no, king that kind of. Stuff, NO i don't
Speaker 2: think so that's not. Him it's Not Jerry, Lawler.
Speaker 4: No it's.
Speaker 2: Not Also, willie don't miss out on The hawk's. Word
Speaker 2: Blood Blood Center Blood drive tomorrow eleven am to five
Speaker 2: pm At Great American. Ballpark donors are going to receive
Speaker 2: a real Cool RED'S t, Shirt red's, hat and tickets
Speaker 2: tomorrow At Great American ballpark for The Hawksworth Blood Center
Speaker 2: Andrew Blood drive At Great American ballpark eleven am to Five.
Speaker 1: Fact The reds brought in a bunch of goodies and
Speaker 1: they're being thrown away. Easily people just taking them like. Crazy.
Speaker 1: Correct got a text here from From Austin.
Speaker 2: Elmo now WHAT i got to put up with? Him
Speaker 2: in Wild, Man.
Speaker 1: He's predicting that The reds will win six games in
Speaker 1: the month Of. July how do you do In? June
Speaker 1: let's be drunk. Again ALL i can say, is how's
Speaker 1: your Girlfriend Sarah? Elise and of course Kid? Chris what
Speaker 1: about those? Two what can you tell? Me they're out
Speaker 1: of control of the. Morning do you give them under?
Speaker 2: Control, no they. Can't they say ABOUT P diddy And Brian.
Speaker 2: COMBS i really didn't say anything because they didn't know
Speaker 2: the verdict this. Morning oh you know it, Now i'm sure.
Speaker 2: Shocked i'm sure Kid chris is happy on the pulse
Speaker 2: of the the activity of this. TRIAL i wonder if
Speaker 2: he's transported a woman across state lines with immoral. INTENT
Speaker 2: i don't, know how about you? Segment come, on come, on,
Speaker 2: NO i only drove her Around Cole. Rain that's cheer
Speaker 2: leader to called you you would have been right. THERE
Speaker 2: i guarantee you. Mind what's her? Name you give me
Speaker 2: your name once years head you are out of your?
Speaker 2: Mind when's she on The olympic team or? Something don't?
Speaker 2: Forget will eat the big news Now, Friday july the,
Speaker 2: fourth that's.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 2: Enjoy all you Can eat is the Montgomery in world
Speaker 2: famous ribs And Saratoga chips thirty four to ninety five
Speaker 2: per season at both the original Montgomery in and The
Speaker 2: Boat house will be Open friday from noon until eight
Speaker 2: for this fourth Of. July all you Can eat special.
Speaker 1: Event but no carry out. Segment, Right no can you
Speaker 1: want to take bags with you and they can't do.
Speaker 1: That on seven HUNDRED wlw By billy cunning Into Great,
Speaker 1: America Who, Continue we never?
Speaker 2: Stop recent we continue And Reds baseball kicks off and
Speaker 2: without a pregame show starting about two twenty five this, say,
Speaker 2: afternoon in about fifteen, minutes and then after the conclusion
Speaker 2: of that, game we go To Eddie fingers in The
Speaker 2: rock until about six o'clock and then a little pregame
Speaker 2: action With lance McAllister first. Pitch so today's kind of
Speaker 2: like a double dipper and The reds are in the fourth,
Speaker 2: inning they're losing two to. One pick up the game right,
Speaker 2: there so we'll do that in about fifteen. Minutes until,
Speaker 2: then more information came out About Brian. Coberger he's the
Speaker 2: murderer who killed those four college, kids and he pled
Speaker 2: guilty and to all four charges in, fact in addition
Speaker 2: to burglary and weapons, charges. Etc and he's going to
Speaker 2: receive On july twenty, third a sentence agreed to by
Speaker 2: the two, parties the two parties being The state Of
Speaker 2: idaho And Brian. Coburger that is an agreed upon. Sentence,
Speaker 2: now normally you would sentence someone.
Speaker 1: Immediately, However idaho law require A, pdr which is A
Speaker 1: Probation apartment report that gives the judge about a ten
Speaker 1: page history as to Who Brian coburger, is where he
Speaker 1: went to, school where he's worked in the, past and
Speaker 1: the previous criminal. Record in, others someone's social. History now
Speaker 1: it's required by law In, idaho but normally this judge
Speaker 1: would not require such things, because having spent the last
Speaker 1: couple of years with the, case he doesn't need to
Speaker 1: know a lot more About Brian. Coburger, nonetheless the family
Speaker 1: members of these Four idaho college kids are more than
Speaker 1: angry about the. Consequences as you may, know the victims'
Speaker 1: families or not parties to the lawsuit to complain or
Speaker 1: the indictment A state Of ohio Versus Brian, coburger and
Speaker 1: for reasons best known to the, prosecutors they did not
Speaker 1: require the defendant to disgorge all the information he knew
Speaker 1: about the. Offenses, now to, me that's, Wrong, however it's.
Speaker 1: Legal that is that when you're the judge and the
Speaker 1: parties to a criminal complaint reach a, resolution you're hard
Speaker 1: pressed to overturn. It because at this, point the state
Speaker 1: Of idaho is determined that they do not want to
Speaker 1: continue to seek the death penalty to have him execute
Speaker 1: it because of the uncertainty of it ever being carried out.
Speaker 1: Anyway plus it saves the state Of idaho thousands of
Speaker 1: hours of. Work there's a death row inmate In mississippi
Speaker 1: who was on death row for twenty nine years just
Speaker 1: recently he was. Executed so the family needs to know
Speaker 1: that In coburger's, case he's a thirty year old former
Speaker 1: PhD student in, criminology that he's got four consecutive life
Speaker 1: sentences without possibility of, parole which means after he serves one,
Speaker 1: sentence he's got to serve the next, one the next,
Speaker 1: one and the next.
Speaker 2: ONE i guess the.
Speaker 1: Fear is down the road that some governor In idaho
Speaker 1: could commute his, sentence which is certainly possible but quite.
Speaker 1: Unlikely so they're going to.
Speaker 2: Prepare The Probation apartment In idaho is going to prepare
Speaker 2: about a ten page written report On Brian, coberger and
Speaker 2: then the judger used that as a reason to sentence
Speaker 2: him On july the twenty. Third to four consecutive life
Speaker 2: sentences without possibility of. Parole could the state have required
Speaker 2: a disgorgement By coburger as to the facts of the. Case,
Speaker 2: yes did they do?
Speaker 1: It, no Because coburger has The Fifth amendment right the
Speaker 1: issue give no statements against his self insurer self. Incrimination
Speaker 1: but the state could have, said we have no duty
Speaker 1: to accept your.
Speaker 2: Plea we can say we're going for the death.
Speaker 1: Penalty the only reason we would accept it Is Number,
Speaker 1: one you disgorge all the facts known to you about.
Speaker 1: You why you murdered these four incent? People where is
Speaker 1: the murder? Weapon why didn't you kill the other? Two
Speaker 1: what was your? Motivation what did you do after you
Speaker 1: committed the? Murders where did you secrete the murder weapons
Speaker 1: or other persons? Involved how did you get to the
Speaker 1: scene of. Crime how'd you get? Away we look to
Speaker 1: look for you for, months where were you in the?
Speaker 1: Meantime et. Cetera but The state Of idaho did not
Speaker 1: go through that. Process could they have done?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: Yes Did Brian coburger have to tell them what they
Speaker 1: wanted to? Know, no the deal has been, struck the
Speaker 1: judge signed off on, it the death penalty has been,
Speaker 1: avoided And coburger looks at spending the next not on
Speaker 1: a fifty sixty years in An idaho state. Prison take
Speaker 1: a short. Break we, continue and as we, continue and
Speaker 1: we're going to have more updates on THE.
Speaker 2: P diddy. Situation by what's going to?
Speaker 1: Happen at five o'clock today In New York city two,
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Speaker 1: Him The Great American Rights baseball kicks off in about
Speaker 1: five minutes right. Here complete the first game should take
Speaker 1: until about four four, thirty and then the second game,
Speaker 1: starts beginning With lance McAllister about six oh five to
Speaker 1: night to double dip afternoon pick up from last, night
Speaker 1: suspend the, game real, game the whole game starting about
Speaker 1: seven to ten to night From. Boston and it was
Speaker 1: announced during the break that there's going to be an
Speaker 1: effort by The Defense council FOR. P diddy to have
Speaker 1: a bond set about five o'clock, today AND i would
Speaker 1: Anticipate i'll go on records saying there should be a bond.
Speaker 1: Set the likely will be a bond set THAT. P
Speaker 1: diddy will be able to, make which may include ankle,
Speaker 1: monitors may include reporting, requirements may involve putting up His
Speaker 1: miami mansion or the one In, california et. Cetera according
Speaker 1: to one, ESTIMATE P diddy was worth three to four
Speaker 1: one hundred million, dollars and there was speculation off to
Speaker 1: my left on AS i monitor everything for you on
Speaker 1: your behalf that is a brand has not necessarily been that.
Speaker 1: Damaged And i'm thinking of having watched what he allegedly
Speaker 1: did over the past two months of a. Trial if
Speaker 1: that doesn't damage someone's, BRAND i don't know what. Does
Speaker 1: it reminds me of The iranian leader saying they won
Speaker 1: the war Against israel and THE. Us if that looks
Speaker 1: like a. VICTORY i don't want to see what a
Speaker 1: defeat looks. Like but in today's, world who knows what's
Speaker 1: going to. Happen the sentencing guidelines for someone such AS
Speaker 1: P diddy is about two to four years on each,
Speaker 1: count and there were two different women, involved found guilty
Speaker 1: of which was count three and count, five both violations
Speaker 1: of the so Called Man act that makes it illegal
Speaker 1: for a person to transport another person across state lines
Speaker 1: with the purpose of prostitution or, debauchery or for any immoral.
Speaker 1: Purpose and to, me that's like A irs tax violation
Speaker 1: when really it's Al capone having committed. Murder its kind
Speaker 1: of like the last. Thing he makes sure he's guilty
Speaker 1: of something and off to my. Left the speculation is
Speaker 1: THE us government fumbled this case miserably by not bringing
Speaker 1: domestic violence charges against. Him of, course they could not
Speaker 1: be brought from the twenty sixteen incident and The Continental
Speaker 1: hotel because the statue had run and by the time
Speaker 1: this thing percolated up to a criminal, level a lot
Speaker 1: of The statute of limitations had run on criminal, acts
Speaker 1: so they had to go with the, one which is
Speaker 1: The Rico rockettere influence corruption organization, account which the statue
Speaker 1: doesn't begin to run on that until the last legal
Speaker 1: act had been, committed and they alleged it was an ongoing.
Speaker 1: Conspiracy of, course he was found not guilty of that.
Speaker 1: One so at the end of the, day the government
Speaker 1: has spent millions and millions of dollars locked UP. P
Speaker 1: diddy for the last year and a. Half and if
Speaker 1: this guy WAS P smith instead OF P diddy number,
Speaker 1: one The Man act violations never would have been charged
Speaker 1: in the first. Place there should have been domestic violence
Speaker 1: charges immediately filed for kicking that poor Woman Cassie, ventura
Speaker 1: but they waited too long to file those, charges so
Speaker 1: they went for something more, serious and the jury In
Speaker 1: New York city said. No In New York, CITY. P
Speaker 1: diddy is a living legend born. There him and his
Speaker 1: entourage donated to magnificent amounts of money to many charitable
Speaker 1: causes In New York. City has a big home, there
Speaker 1: along Within, miami along Within Los, angeles along with a
Speaker 1: condominium In Las.
Speaker 2: Vegas and he gave away money.
Speaker 1: Freely AND i thought it would be difficult to get
Speaker 1: a conviction OF. P diddy In New York, city just
Speaker 1: as it would be guilty of somewhat difficulty the conviction of.
Speaker 2: The JEWS. O.
Speaker 1: J simpson In Los. Angeles and this was a majority
Speaker 1: black jury that thought the government overreached and said we're
Speaker 1: not going with. It we say, no and they said
Speaker 1: no in a loud. Way so at five, o'clock in
Speaker 1: about two and a half, hours you're going to have
Speaker 1: the effort to get him. Out there'll be a sentencing
Speaker 1: date set about four to eight weeks from. Now he'll
Speaker 1: likely be on bond for those periods of, time under
Speaker 1: restrictions to not to do certain. Things and the life
Speaker 1: now of fifty, cents probably worth it out a quarter
Speaker 1: BECAUSE P diddy is a, killer he's a, murderer he's
Speaker 1: a vicious human being that needs to be locked.
Speaker 2: Up, well let's continue with more.
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