WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:09.759 Billy cunning in the Great America. Welcome this Wednesday afternoon. 2 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:12.839 The Tri State Reds Baseball suspend it last night, think 3 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:14.199 them the fourth or fifth inning. 4 00:00:14.199 --> 00:00:16.800 The Reds are losing two to one. But today's going 5 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:19.320 to be like a split the day night doubleheader in Boston, 6 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:21.760 and the Reds are going to have largely I think 7 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:23.559 to this afternoon's going to have like a bullpen day. 8 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:25.839 Then tonight we'll see what occurs. The Reds are on 9 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:28.640 a roll of the Super Bowl and beyond and also 10 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:31.000 the World Series, possibly along with the Bengals. Plus so 11 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:33.759 later on we've scheduled for ak Ramaswami to go on 12 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:36.679 to talk about what's happening in Columbus, what he would 13 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:38.479 have done, what he would do if he was the governor. 14 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:41.640 Would he issue about seventy vetos? How many will be 15 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:44.359 overruled by the legislature, which is kind of difficult. I 16 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.200 thought it was like within the next day or two 17 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:49.000 or three, But the legislature has a year and a 18 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:52.520 half to over ride a veto, which means you need 19 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:56.799 twenty and you need twenty in the Senate and sixty 20 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:59.000 in the House to override the veto. So we'll see 21 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:01.359 what happens down the road open until then. Burrow Love 22 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:04.799 is the editor and vice president. He's kind of like 23 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:07.519 the JD. Vance, the vice president of the Cincinnati Inquire. 24 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:10.359 He also runs the Columbus Dispatch and the Akron Beacon 25 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:13.560 Journal who runs everything in print and Ohio and Berrol Love, 26 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:15.840 welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, 27 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:18.519 I read your columns about taking umbrage of some of 28 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:21.959 the comments of the legislature they've incorporated into law and 29 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:26.200 the new budget about shall we say sunshine type loss 30 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:28.560 and you explain to the American people why you think 31 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:31.400 the American people in Ohio are not getting information out 32 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:33.719 of Columbus because of what the Republicans are doing. 33 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:39.359 Well, Bill, thanks for having me on. It's a beautiful 34 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:46.120 day in the Queen City. So my column basically questioned, 35 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:51.120 if you take a step back the trend that we've 36 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:55.920 seen in Columbus of taking a bill, and in this case, 37 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:59.200 the budget bill and just tacking on a bunch of 38 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:05.319 unrelated topics. This budget bill was something like six thousand 39 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:11.039 pages cool and there are provisions in the state budget 40 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:14.280 bill that have nothing to do with the way the 41 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:16.680 state raises and spends its money. 42 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.039 And so tucked into the budget bill. 43 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:24.240 Of concern to me, as somebody who fights for your 44 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:28.120 right to know, for transparency and open government, was a 45 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:32.840 provision that allows lawmakers to have their emails and text 46 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:38.439 messages exempt from public records requests until the start of 47 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:40.520 the next legislative session. 48 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:46.000 So that that alarms me, because yeah. 49 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.039 So let's say the leaders in the House of the 50 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:50.840 Senate they have text messages going back and forth. You 51 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:51.840 do this, I'll do that. 52 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:56.759 I'm thinking about the householder situation. Matt Borges and senators say, well, 53 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:59.159 I'll do this if you do that. And the way 54 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:02.400 businesses can to today, as you know, is by text 55 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:05.319 or email. That's how you don't send letters anymore. There's 56 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:09.000 no voicemails left. And so explain again, I don't think 57 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:10.840 American people get to this point that and want to 58 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:12.479 know what's going on in government. We have to have 59 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:15.759 access to their to their communications, and the Republicans don't 60 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:16.039 want that. 61 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:20.680 Well, I don't think any elected officials want that. You 62 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:24.840 can go back to the Gang of Five in Cincinnati 63 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:29.560 City Council, when the Inquirer and other local media organizations 64 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:34.080 fought for access to those tech messages because you know, basically, 65 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:37.439 if you are conducted in the digital era, it really 66 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:41.240 complicates our efforts to keep government transparent. 67 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:43.479 It used to be you know, you would call it, 68 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:44.639 you would call a meeting. 69 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:47.879 You would have to you know, provide notice, the public 70 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:51.319 could show up, the media could show up, and then 71 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.759 if there was any written correspondence memos, I mean back 72 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:58.840 to the days where you would call your your secretariat 73 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:01.280 and take a memo and all of that that is gone. 74 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:05.479 You know, it's instant communication, and so that that has posed. 75 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:09.280 You know, the public records laws have struggled to keep 76 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:12.439 up with technology. But there has been precedent that if 77 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:17.360 you are using email in or text, using your text 78 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:22.000 messaging service to conduct the public's business, that that needs 79 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:23.240 to be open to inspection. 80 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:26.360 And little by little there have been challenges to that. 81 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:28.560 And this is one that got snuck into the budget 82 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:32.720 bill that says our lawmakers and Columbus don't have to 83 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:33.800 provide that information. 84 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:34.279 Now. 85 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:36.839 We don't want to see, you know, the text to 86 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:39.759 their spouses about picking up eggs at the grocery store 87 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:43.480 or oh my gosh, Bobby got you know, detention after school. 88 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:45.360 What are we going to do about it. Those can 89 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:46.199 be reacted. 90 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.360 You know. It's when we make public records requests they're 91 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:55.319 not you know, good journalists won't just do these broad requests. 92 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:57.879 They will say, we would like the correspondence, you know, 93 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:05.199 specifically between you know this this representative and this. 94 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:07.360 You know this. 95 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:10.720 Lobbyist or whatever on this particular issue. And so, yeah, 96 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:14.040 you can go back to the Householder scandal. You know, 97 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:20.079 the emails between Larry Householder and other members of the 98 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:23.920 legislature that he was trying to get to support, you know, 99 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:28.199 the first Energy bailout that was that was important information 100 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:30.279 for the public to know that. You know, there was 101 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:33.240 a federal investigation obviously, but it was the journalist that 102 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:35.600 kind of filled in the gaps and let people understand 103 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:38.319 the broad scope of what Householder was doing. 104 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:41.720 So, Burrol Love, am I anticipating a lawsuit because I 105 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:43.240 would think under the First Amendment? 106 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:43.879 Am I'm thinking? 107 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.680 Okay, I Love lawyers, Am I going to anticipate a 108 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:49.319 lawsuit that this is on and keeping with the requirements 109 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:51.800 in the First Amendment, the public's right to know freedom 110 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:53.680 of the press is a lawsuit coming. 111 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:58.720 You know, we we have done lawsuits to get information 112 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:03.399 I'm not planning anything now. You know, Jack Griner, our 113 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:07.759 First Amendment attorney, is really good at navigating this process 114 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:08.279 for us. 115 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:08.519 You know. 116 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:12.519 Usually we wait for the injury, you know, the actual 117 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:16.000 denial of information, so we can see on something specific 118 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:19.199 rather than something that's broad. But the but the point 119 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:22.040 I make in my column is that there is already 120 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:27.680 a law in the you know, state of Ohio called 121 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:31.439 the single subject rule, which in theory should protect us 122 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:34.600 from some things like this. So back to this giant, 123 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:38.839 massive omnibus budget bill, you know, added to that budget 124 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:41.519 bill and passed and signed by the governor where things 125 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:44.360 had nothing to do with the budget that missed their day, 126 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:47.600 you know, for the public to vet you've got. 127 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:49.600 We reported today. 128 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:52.519 That it's now law that if you are under the 129 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:55.079 age of twenty one and you want to get a 130 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:59.480 driver's license, you need to have the full blown driver's 131 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:03.720 ed hours behind the wheel that we make sixteen seventeen 132 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.879 year olds do when they want a driver's license. Maybe 133 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:08.399 that's a good idea, I don't know. I'm not here 134 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:10.160 to say it's a good idea or a bad idea. 135 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:15.120 But that obviously was not the single subject of a bill. 136 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:18.560 So that it could be vetted by both both chambers 137 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:22.800 public hearings. There's just things that get signed into law 138 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:26.639 that have just sidestep, you know, go back to your 139 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:29.319 schoolhouse rock days. How a bill becomes a law. There's 140 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:32.680 a process and it's important. And by tacking everything onto 141 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:36.759 these you know, omnibus bills, the public is getting cheated 142 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:38.959 out of their opportunity to weigh. 143 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:40.600 In on you know, these matters. 144 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.240 And bur lov In that regard you mentioned in your 145 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.079 column about self. I think most parents would say that 146 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.839 cell phones in schools are kind of like a bad 147 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:52.199 idea and effect of January first of next year, cell 148 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:54.600 phones will not be permitted in school. But the difficulty 149 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:57.439 is that should not be part of the omnibus spending 150 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:00.560 and tax bill because cell phones and maybe a good idea, 151 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:01.959 but that's not the way to do it. Is that 152 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:02.519 your point? 153 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:04.720 That that's my point? 154 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:08.480 Like, what does cell phone usage in school has to 155 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:11.920 do with the way the state raises and spends its money? 156 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:12.560 Zero? 157 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:15.319 This is a budget bill. This is a budget bill. 158 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.959 And you know I have a you know, I have 159 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:23.879 a teenage son I struggled with, you know, managing his 160 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:24.759 cell phone usage. 161 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:26.000 I know, his teachers did. 162 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.399 I think it's a great idea, but you know, just 163 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:34.039 getting into my personal politics now, is that the state's. 164 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:34.960 Job to mandate? 165 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.960 I mean, we have local school boards. They should be 166 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:40.320 running the district, you know, they should have a stay 167 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.840 in this. And then I my sister's a teacher. I 168 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:45.759 have married friends who are teachers. They they think this 169 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:48.080 is a good idea, but they questioned, Okay, this is 170 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:50.759 state law. Now, well is this going to be up 171 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:53.440 to us to enforce? You know, how does this work? 172 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:56.360 Like the state can easily, you know, throw a law 173 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:59.240 into this budget bill and Mike Dwaine sign it into law, 174 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:01.320 and then the common folk bill. 175 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:03.519 We're left to figure it all out, you know. And 176 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:04.600 we haven't even had. 177 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:07.279 Our say in the process. So this single subject rule 178 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.159 that we have in Ohio is it's laughable. I mean, 179 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:15.200 it's just ignored and it's getting worse. 180 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:17.799 All right, let's talk about another part of your column, 181 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:21.840 Barrel love about property tax relief. And Dwine vetoed the 182 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:24.279 property tax relief. And here's the thing. When I talked 183 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:26.399 to Huffman, I talked to the governor, I talked to 184 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:30.279 people in charge. They're saying, we're definitely afraid. Maybe afraid's 185 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:33.039 the wrong word, but we certainly hope the voters of 186 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:36.720 Ohio do not eliminate all real estate property taxes because 187 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:39.120 if they do that, I head on a state senator 188 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:41.679 who said, you know, if that happens, the state sales 189 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:44.000 tax is going to be twenty percent or higher. And 190 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:47.440 so they worked hard in the legislature to take away 191 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:51.440 some of the property tax problems, especially senior citizens and 192 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:56.080 others that see their property tax rates skyrocketing. And the 193 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.720 lawmakers came up with a few methods to restrain the 194 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.960 growth of that, but line vetoed everything, and so can 195 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:04.279 you imagine And I'm going to ask for Vake Ramaswami 196 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:07.440 this question later on he'll be the governor when the 197 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:10.919 rubber hits the road. That the funding only three ways 198 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:13.200 to get funds for all public matters, which is real 199 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.080 estate taxes, sales taxes, or state income taxes. 200 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:16.559 That's it. 201 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:19.879 There's a few other little fees, but nothing significant. And 202 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:23.320 they're talking about, oh my god, if the voters and 203 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:24.919 I think we're going to vote that, I think we're 204 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:27.480 going to say, yes, get rid of property taxes. I 205 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:30.120 talk to people like Rocky Boyman and Tony Bender. They're 206 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:33.120 sick and tired of paying real estate taxes what they're paying. 207 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:36.600 You give a voter a one shot opportunity of eliminating 208 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:39.440 real estate taxes, they're going to do it. And that 209 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.440 means the consequence is going to be a twenty percent 210 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:46.159 sales tax or tripling of the state income tax and 211 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:49.720 also municipality taxes. And townships now will be given the 212 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:53.759 ability to charge income taxes to their township residents of 213 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.240 which I'm a proud member of Sycamore Township. And so 214 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:58.840 when the legislature tried to soften the impact of this, 215 00:10:59.080 --> 00:10:59.679 the wine. 216 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:00.279 Vetoed every thing. 217 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:03.559 Now, while you have this in your column about the 218 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:07.919 vetoing of the property tax relief, have you considered the 219 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:10.919 next shoot to drop, which is on the ballot people 220 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:13.879 voting against this, then what happens. 221 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:18.720 Well, first of all, there are sixty seven line item 222 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:24.879 vetos that the governor did before he signed the budget bill. 223 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:31.519 There's no way that Republicans can go after every one 224 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:33.600 of those for an override. 225 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:36.279 But they are lining up behind this one ye. This 226 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:37.360 will be the one ye. 227 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.240 I mean immediately, if you if you follow any of 228 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:41.320 them on social media. 229 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:44.360 They are whipped up into a frenzy about this. So 230 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:45.200 I this. 231 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:48.000 You know, if I was going to set odds on 232 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:50.120 one of those line items that's going to get overridden, 233 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:53.480 it would be that one that said, I think they're 234 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:56.720 all in agreement that there needs to be property tax reform. 235 00:11:57.720 --> 00:11:57.879 Yeah. 236 00:11:57.919 --> 00:11:59.759 Should the governor have thrown the baby out with the 237 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:01.600 back water? I don't know. 238 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:04.919 Maybe he's forcing them to go back and do something 239 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:11.840 a little more comprehensive rather than just you know, a patch. 240 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:12.799 Here and a band aid there. 241 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:15.720 But you're right, the money's got to come from somewhere. 242 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:17.440 We're not going to stop funding schools. 243 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:20.240 So that's interesting. 244 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:22.159 I don't know how. I don't know how this is 245 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:22.879 going to play out. 246 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.320 But but but this inner party drama is fascinating, isn't it? 247 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:27.200 It is no question. 248 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:30.799 And lastly, about the stadium Bengal tax the governor allowed 249 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:33.120 us to go through, which is the Brownies are going 250 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.840 to get six hundred million dollars. Jimmy Haslam and his 251 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:38.879 family in Cleveland are quite happy about that. The Bengals 252 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:40.480 have been left out at this point. But when I 253 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:42.759 speak to those in charge and Columbus, they say, look, 254 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:45.320 when the deal deal is done, which I guess will 255 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:47.799 be done in about about the four weeks. I have 256 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:50.480 Denise tree House on Monday to give us an update 257 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:53.480 after the long holiday weekend about what's going to happen. 258 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:56.759 And your cohort Kevin Aldridge has written about this, and 259 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:01.559 so have you relative to billionaires early billionaires getting tax 260 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:04.480 money to incentivize it, and the Bengals are left out 261 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:07.080 in the cold at this point. But everyone thinks that 262 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.360 once the deal deal is done and you go up 263 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:12.480 to Columbus, part of that one point six billion dollars 264 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.480 maybe one point four billion unclaimed funds is going to 265 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:18.519 go toward these kinds of ventures. Is Is it a 266 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:21.240 good idea? And Mike Brown at times is a very 267 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:24.679 popular character in this town. Gosh, you guys almost ninety 268 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.200 years old now and not times is not so popular. 269 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:30.840 Is it a good use of taxpayer money unclaimed to 270 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.639 give it to billionaires to build these palances to the 271 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.879 National Football League? 272 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:38.360 There's a question in there some way. 273 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.639 There's a question in when you put it in those terms, 274 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:43.399 what I mean, I would sound like an idiot if 275 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:44.720 I said yes, that's a great. 276 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:50.679 Idea, obvious OBUs, there's more nuanced than that. Here here's 277 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:51.120 what I know. 278 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:57.039 After the terms of the new Bengals lease were revealed, 279 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:01.799 we were very fortunate the editorial board of the Inquiry, 280 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:05.360 which includes myself and Kevin Aldridge and our news director. 281 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:07.799 We had some of the reporters in the room too. 282 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:11.360 We had a sit down with Denise tree House, with 283 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:17.960 county administrator Jeff Aludo, We had their negotiator, we had 284 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:21.200 their new attorneys from Dinsmore. They like filled the room, 285 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:24.600 and of course, you know, their message to us that 286 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:27.159 they wanted us, you know, this was all about. The 287 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:30.720 messaging was that this is a way better deal than 288 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.000 the last one, and you can't argue with that. But 289 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:34.720 we got to ask them some questions. And one of 290 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:36.799 the questions that we asked because. 291 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:40.679 The money was really pared down. 292 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:42.919 I mean we were talking, we were throwing around terms 293 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:45.879 like eight hundred million, one point two million if you 294 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:50.080 included the practice facility. They really scaled back what they 295 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:55.559 agreed to in terms of stadium renovations, anticipating that eventually 296 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:57.279 there was going to be some money kicked in from 297 00:14:57.320 --> 00:14:58.919 the state, and so we asked them. 298 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:02.120 Point blank, will that money be added. 299 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:04.720 To this four hundred and seventy million that you approved 300 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:07.759 so that you can continue expansions, you can you can 301 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.279 look at other enhancements or that will that go to 302 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:14.360 that original total. And they said, no, whatever you get 303 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:17.879 from the state will be added on. So they basically 304 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:22.240 they agreed to that much lower renovation number because they 305 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.279 are anticipating money from the state. 306 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:27.080 And I think this unclaimed funds. 307 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:31.240 You can argue the ethics of spending other people's money, 308 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:35.159 but I think this is the you know, the pot 309 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:37.159 of gold under the rainbow that they've found. 310 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:39.279 And so I got to ask you a question. 311 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:39.600 Bill. 312 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:42.720 Have you checked to see if the state owes you 313 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:43.240 any money? 314 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:45.759 Yes, they owe me thirty seven dollars and fifty cents. 315 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:48.320 And I told Tony Bender, if you collected for me, 316 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:50.440 I'll give you half of the action. And I can't 317 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:52.519 get anybody to bite on it. I got thirty seven 318 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:54.600 dollars and fifty cents. I have no idea where it 319 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:57.240 came from. But the effort's not worth the eighteen dollars 320 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:59.080 for me to collect it. I'm willing to if a 321 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:01.360 serious money, yeah, yes, I'll collect it, but I don't 322 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:03.960 want to go through the process for thirty seven dollars. 323 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:05.720 Have you checked burroll Abby. 324 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:10.000 I did the state owes me about fifty seven dollars. Well, 325 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:14.759 just just for journalistic research, I did. I did do 326 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:17.879 a claim. So we'll see, we'll see what happens. But 327 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:22.519 I bring that up because you know, we the inquire 328 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:26.200 and just about anyone else that reported on this unclaimed 329 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:31.440 funds story. Let people know, you know, shared the website 330 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:33.200 where you can go to check and see and make 331 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:37.799 a claim. And so I'm wondering how at the end 332 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:39.799 of all of this, with all the attention we've been 333 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:43.120 giving to this this pile of money, I wonder how 334 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:45.360 much we'll be left after all of us started making 335 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:45.919 our plans. 336 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:47.440 Well, let's see what happens. 337 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:49.559 But when I talked to the powers that be, they 338 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:53.279 don't like the two percent and attacks on sports betting that, 339 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:55.559 they don't like using other moneies. They don't like the 340 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.919 bonding thing because even though you know that takes away 341 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:00.360 the ability of the state to bond other issues. So 342 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:02.759 that this came up and they grasp on this thing 343 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:05.559 like a like a pit bull with a pork chop, 344 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:08.279 and they said, you know what, this is unplayed money. 345 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:10.720 Give everybody one more year than give them ten years. 346 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:12.880 And that's the way it is. But Burro Love, thank you. 347 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:15.000 You run all the newspapers in Ohio. Good to check 348 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:17.079 in with you, and you continue to have a great. 349 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:19.559 Come on some of the newspapers in Ohio, all the 350 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:21.480 ones that matter, the good ones, the good ones, the 351 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:21.960 good ones. 352 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:24.680 Yeah, burrough Love, You're a great American. Every great fourth 353 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:25.079 of July. 354 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:27.759 You too, Bill, Thank you very much. 355 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:29.559 God bless America. Let's continue with more. 356 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:33.680 It's the least painful way of giving billionaires hundreds of 357 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:35.480 millions of dollars to make it look like it's for 358 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:39.000 the public good. Bill Cunningham. Coming up next is more 359 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:41.960 in the Diddy trial, and let on we've scheduled with 360 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:45.000 ak Ramaswami, the man who would be Governor. Bill Cunningham, 361 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.000 News Radio seven hundreds. You old over you all right, 362 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:52.599 Dave Keaton, hit the button, Hit the button. Red's Baseball 363 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:56.079 kicks off today about two twenty five. No pregame show. 364 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:58.160 Simply right into it reads down a run in the 365 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:01.759 fourth of the fifth. They have complete that game, hopefully 366 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:04.279 by four to thirty five o'clock. Then back out it 367 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:07.400 with the socks tonight. Lance McAllister and of course Rocky 368 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:10.039 and Eddie Fingers, that living legend Eddie Fingers in the meantime, 369 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:12.680 but until then, I have a text former friend of mine. 370 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:16.359 This is relative to my last my next upcoming discussion 371 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:21.400 with with ak Ramaswami. And simply there are some individuals. 372 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:24.839 In one case friend of mine spends time in order 373 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:26.559 to find money for other people. That there was a 374 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:29.799 woman in North Carolina that had a sixty nine thousand 375 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:33.079 dollars life insurance proceed policy that she did not know 376 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:36.880 she could collect on, and that was part of the 377 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:39.880 one point four billion dollars the state of Ohio has 378 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:43.839 and unclaim funds. So it would behoove you to go 379 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:48.759 online Ohio Unclaimfunds dot gov dot org and find out 380 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:51.160 whether or not the Department of Commerce has serious money 381 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:54.039 for you. I'm told I got thirty five dollars or so, 382 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:56.759 and I'm telling Dave Keaton, my producer, I'll give you 383 00:18:56.799 --> 00:18:58.839 half the money if you can get the money back 384 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:02.680 thirty five dollars. See, some others might have some serious money, 385 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:04.519 like that woman from North Carolina. 386 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:05.240 So get it done. 387 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:09.559 And the money's going to be used to enhance sports 388 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:14.640 arenas football, stadiums, orchestras, any sort of entertainment district, whatever 389 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:16.640 it might be. And I'm not sure how it's going 390 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:20.200 to work yet, but sometime soon, if you don't collect 391 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:22.839 your money, the state's going to spend it on your behalf. 392 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:27.640 So get that done. Secondly, I note with interest what 393 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:31.000 happened with P Diddy. Diddy Combs, I said, going through 394 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:35.200 this process is an extremely popular character in New York City. 395 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:39.480 It's like OJ Simpson was a very popular person in 396 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:42.920 Los Angeles. It didn't have the racial overtones because of 397 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:46.440 the Rodney King situation in LA. But in New York City. 398 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:51.799 P Diddy is extremely popular. And the jury drew from 399 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:55.920 New York City was predominantly African American, and they listened 400 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.839 to this prosecution. They did not buy the general argument 401 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:04.759