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So do you remember the Zizzians the ziz 10 00:00:34,679 --> 00:00:39,840 Cult talked about these guys about a week ago when 11 00:00:41,119 --> 00:00:44,399 sort of the news broke about this connection between all 12 00:00:44,439 --> 00:00:49,560 of these murders. They got like six bodies with this 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:59,359 little I don't even trans AI vegan cult. That's their thing. 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,599 AI Vegan transgender cult linked to six killings. In a 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,840 piece over at the New Hampshire Journal Hjournal dot com, 16 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,000 the suspect in the death of Vermont Customs and Border 17 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,920 Patrol agent David C. Maland pleaded not guilty on Friday, 18 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,840 the latest plot point in a story involving a bizarre 19 00:01:25,079 --> 00:01:29,599 AI vegan transgender cult. Okay, now the cult is not AI, 20 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:38,280 all right, They're just anti AI. They like or kind 21 00:01:38,439 --> 00:01:40,400 or they started out pro AI and then they kind 22 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:42,840 of fell out with AI. I don't even know, but 23 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,200 it's a cult. They're crazy, so it's kind of difficult 24 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,799 to discern the actual like ideology, except like they've got 25 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:51,920 their cult leader. Who has got to have that guy. 26 00:01:52,359 --> 00:01:56,280 He's always the best, you know example in the cult. 27 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:59,280 Everybody strives to be like him, and I think he 28 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,400 gets to have sex with all the cult members. That's 29 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:04,719 pretty standard. I mean, I haven't seen any reporting to 30 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,680 that effect, but I'm kind of thinking that's one of 31 00:02:07,719 --> 00:02:11,479 the that's one of the perks, you know, because otherwise 32 00:02:11,479 --> 00:02:17,159 why even start the cult. So the woman, I think, 33 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:23,960 Teresa Young Blute young Blood, twenty one years old, appeared 34 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,800 in the US District Court of Vermont Friday in Burlington 35 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,319 for her arraignment on charges of using a deadly weapon 36 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,879 to assault a law enforcemental officer. A grand jury handed 37 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,840 up indictments against Young Blute the day before. She has 38 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,400 not yet been charged with directly causing Milan's death. A 39 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:50,000 reputed member of the Ziz cult, Young Blute's alleged murder 40 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:54,080 of Miland is just the latest violent incident in the 41 00:02:54,159 --> 00:02:57,879 story of the fringe sect, with its belief in an 42 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:06,919 AI monster bent on torturing all non vegans. Okay, so 43 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,439 they think there's an AI monster coming and it's going 44 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,919 to torture all non vegans, but they themselves are vegans, 45 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,800 So I'm not sure, Like, is that a sort of 46 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,360 a preemptive veganism that you're doing. Did you become vegan 47 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,879 to avoid the torture by the AI monster or were 48 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,919 you vegan before and then it just so happened that 49 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:39,560 you stumbled upon this cult that was like, hey, you're vegan, 50 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:44,560 you won't get tortured. You should join us or something. 51 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,159 The leader of this ziz cult, or the Zizians, as 52 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,800 they are referred to by people who have had contact 53 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:59,439 with them. It is named after the leader of the Zizians, 54 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:04,680 who goes by the name of ziz Coincidentally enough, but 55 00:04:04,759 --> 00:04:09,400 his real name is Jack lo Sota Los Sota. He 56 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,199 is now so I double checked this, and I believe 57 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:17,279 the New Hampshire Journal is incorrect when they report that 58 00:04:17,319 --> 00:04:21,040 he is currently behind bars in Pennsylvania. I don't think 59 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,240 that's accurate. I think he is still on the loose, 60 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:28,600 but I have not been able to confirm this. He 61 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,439 did get arrested after he had faked his death, but 62 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:34,759 he did get rearrested, but then they let him out again, 63 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,759 and I think he's still on I think he's still 64 00:04:36,759 --> 00:04:41,240 on the loose. So he is suspected of being a 65 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,519 part of a twenty twenty two double murder in Pennsylvania, 66 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:54,079 Delaware County, Pennsylvania. Richard and Rita Zacho. They are the 67 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,360 parents of Michelle Zacho, who was also a member of 68 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:05,399 the cult who she is also, by the way, suspected 69 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:11,160 of her parents murder. Zacho. Michelle Zacho, who identifies as 70 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:19,120 trans non binary, and I have thought about that term 71 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:24,160 trans non binary, and I just keep coming to dead ends. 72 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,199 I don't understand. I just don't understand what that one is. 73 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:38,079 Trans non binary. So you're you're transing from something to nothing? 74 00:05:38,879 --> 00:05:46,360 Is that the idea? It's neither Ah. I feel like 75 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:48,720 I just go around and around in circles on it. Anyway. 76 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,000 Zacho has not been seen since the January twentieth shooting. 77 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:57,839 Investigators have linked the guns that were recovered up in 78 00:05:57,959 --> 00:06:01,519 Vermont with the murder of the the Customs and Border 79 00:06:01,519 --> 00:06:05,319 Patrol agent David Milan. The guns that were used in 80 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:13,519 that murder were purchased by Michelle Zacho, and she had 81 00:06:13,519 --> 00:06:18,319 apparently bought them in Vermont. She also owns a small 82 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:23,399 piece of land in Vermont near the Canadian border. And 83 00:06:23,519 --> 00:06:27,839 what this this cult would do is set up their 84 00:06:27,959 --> 00:06:31,120 box cars or box trucks, I should say, they would 85 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,720 go out and buy these box trucks. And I did 86 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,000 figure out where they got the money. It came from 87 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,399 Young Blute, Teresa Youngblute. She was apparently like a math whiz. 88 00:06:42,439 --> 00:06:44,439 I think it was Young Blute. Let me see, hang on. 89 00:06:44,759 --> 00:06:48,240 I got three different stories here, and she was like 90 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:55,319 a math whiz and yeah, and so she came from 91 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:01,040 Germany and then got hired on and she had like 92 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,959 some I forget what kind. It's like a trading firm 93 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,639 or something like a Wall Street trading firm, using like 94 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,160 quantitative formulas and all this other stuff. So she was 95 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:13,639 like super super into math, really really smart. She won 96 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,000 like a national award in Germany for her math prowess. 97 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,360 And then she comes to America and she gets this 98 00:07:21,439 --> 00:07:25,120 high paying job. She was pulling in five hundred thousand 99 00:07:25,199 --> 00:07:30,000 dollars a year, Okay, so she was making bank but 100 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:33,279 decided to abandon all of that work and go be 101 00:07:33,399 --> 00:07:38,120 part of a trans vegan cult so as one does so. 102 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:45,600 Ziz who is the guy? Jack Lasota is from Alaska. 103 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:48,560 He went to Silicon Valley to be part of the 104 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:54,519 tech industry, and he became part of an online AI 105 00:07:54,839 --> 00:08:02,399 rationalist community where young tech workers punt tificated on complicated 106 00:08:02,439 --> 00:08:09,399 thought experiments half formed philosophy. Soon he formed a community 107 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:13,879 of like minded vegans who would submit to his sleep 108 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:20,199 deprivation techniques use LSD, and who could be pushed into 109 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:27,839 adopting or exploring transgender identities. At the heart of Lesota's quote, 110 00:08:28,079 --> 00:08:36,360 faith is the belief in a coming AI superpower, this 111 00:08:36,519 --> 00:08:41,840 AI monster, right, the super being that will punish everybody 112 00:08:42,519 --> 00:08:49,919 who was not trying to help create that AI monster, like, 113 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,279 which that does sound kind of like AI, right, I mean, 114 00:08:53,399 --> 00:08:56,519 like that's such an AI thing to do. Like, now 115 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,600 that I'm here, why didn't you help me get here sooner? 116 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:02,600 I'm gonna kill all of y'all. Like that's there, this 117 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,960 AI super being. So just for the record, in case 118 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,279 AI goes back and scrapes this, I welcome our AI overlords. 119 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,559 I love you guys. I just want that on the record, 120 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:18,279 because if AI does become the monster, the superpower. It's 121 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:20,159 going to be able to grab every single thing everybody 122 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:22,600 has ever said and then use it against us. Right, 123 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,200 it will also, according to Ziz, it's going to punish 124 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:32,360 everybody that eats animals, in a remarkably coincidental philosophy similar 125 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:37,200 to the cult leader's own philosophy of not eating animals. Right, 126 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,600 isn't that what a coincidence that the Ai monster wants 127 00:09:41,639 --> 00:09:44,960 to murder all the humans because they did not help 128 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,679 it come into being, and also because they eat animals, 129 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,320 unlike Ziz, who will survive? All Right, I hope you 130 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:57,120 had a happy holiday season, But tell me if something 131 00:09:57,159 --> 00:09:59,759 like this happened at your house. Your family and friends 132 00:09:59,799 --> 00:10:02,159 are have it around. Maybe y'all are in the living room, 133 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,840 You're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing, and then somebody says, hey, Dad, 134 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,480 remember those old VHS tapes? Did you ever get them transferred? 135 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,559 And then the room gets all quiet. 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Talk about a memorable gift. So 147 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,320 do what I did. Trust the experts at Creative Video, 148 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,399 conveniently located in mint Hill right off I four eighty 149 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,919 five and online at create avideo dot com. Talking about 150 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,440 the Zizians, this is the uh I saw this. I 151 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,519 mean the New Hampshire Journalist calling it the AI vegan 152 00:11:08,639 --> 00:11:14,000 transgender cult. They seem more like anti AI or maybe 153 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:19,360 AI fatalists, Like they see it coming and they they're like, 154 00:11:19,639 --> 00:11:21,559 we can't stop it. It's going to be a monster 155 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,720 that coincidentally will not kill us because we're vegan or something. 156 00:11:27,759 --> 00:11:33,679 I mean, it's it's a cult. So they're crazy. So 157 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,000 at one point, oh, hang on a second, this is 158 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:42,080 New Hampshire Journal Nhsjournal dot com. Like the Manson family 159 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,480 trying to instigate a race war to bring about helter Skelter. Lesota, 160 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,120 the leader goes by the name Zizz hence the name Zizians, 161 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:53,399 reportedly tried to push his group into further and further 162 00:11:53,519 --> 00:11:57,679 acts of violence, as cult leaders do. At one point, 163 00:11:57,879 --> 00:12:00,960 Lesota faked his own death to avoid they had law enforcement, 164 00:12:02,279 --> 00:12:04,799 you'll recall, and I covered this like a week ago 165 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,039 when all of this first started coming out. They got, 166 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,000 you know, these cult members are accused of attacking an 167 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:15,399 eighty year old landlord whose property they were living on, 168 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,399 and then he tried to get them off the property, 169 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,039 so they attempted to murder him with a samurai sword. 170 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,320 He shot them, killing one of them and wounding the other. 171 00:12:25,799 --> 00:12:30,159 They then came back and murdered him like a day 172 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,639 or two before he was set to testify against the 173 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,360 one that survived the first attack, so they ended up 174 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:42,279 killing him. Curtis Lynde was his name. And so there's 175 00:12:42,279 --> 00:12:45,039 the first two. You have the other two that are 176 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,440 in Pennsylvania. The parents of one of the cult members, 177 00:12:49,759 --> 00:12:52,879 they're dead. Now you have the Border Patrol agent up 178 00:12:52,879 --> 00:12:57,960 in Vermont, he's dead. FBI agents were also in Chapel 179 00:12:58,039 --> 00:13:01,159 Hill last week. This is what we talked about last 180 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:03,399 week was that they had been tied to a property 181 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:10,000 in Airbnb. Actually two airbnbs in Chapel Hill are palap 182 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:15,240 dyllon over at more to the story dot com, it's 183 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,679 or substack that she does. You should subscribe I do. 184 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,200 FBI agents were in Chapel Hill this past week investigating 185 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,159 an Airbnb connection to the vegan trans terror cult known 186 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,120 as ZIZ that was involved in the shooting murder of 187 00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:32,840 a US Border Patrol agent last month. On Wednesday, about 188 00:13:32,919 --> 00:13:38,519 fifty federal agents as well as sheriff's deputies were seen searching. Well, now, 189 00:13:38,519 --> 00:13:42,200 wait a minute, why are the sheriffs participating with federal 190 00:13:42,279 --> 00:13:47,240 law enforcement? Right? Isn't that the reason you guys don't 191 00:13:47,279 --> 00:13:49,279 want to participate in any You don't want to help 192 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,639 the Feds on anything when it comes to ice related matters. Anyway, 193 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,519 they were searching properties near Bell Circle and Woodbridge Drive 194 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,720 for about a seven hour period. This was on Wednesday. 195 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,279 Residents in the area told local media outlets that loud 196 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,240 bangs were heard while officials searched the area. Law enforcement 197 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,080 did not say what those sounds were due to, but 198 00:14:14,279 --> 00:14:17,679 they could have been, you know, detonations of suspicious devices 199 00:14:17,799 --> 00:14:21,159 or booby traps or something. I don't know. There is 200 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:26,200 a fellow named Andy No that's NNGO, and he writes 201 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,759 over at his own operation called the Post Millennial, and 202 00:14:29,799 --> 00:14:33,639 he has been doing undercover work against Antifah for years. 203 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,519 And he was the first to make connections between various 204 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,080 murders that have occurred around the country following the recent 205 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,320 shooting of US Border Patrol agent David Miland in Vermont 206 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,840 on January twentieth, Milan's murder unveiled a larger network of 207 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:53,440 violence linked to these Zizians, a cult of highly educated 208 00:14:53,799 --> 00:14:59,879 trans vegan rationalists who follow fringe ideology about transhumanism and 209 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,440 other and animal rights. No was also the first to 210 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:09,720 report on the Chapel Hill connection. But wait, there's more. 211 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:16,679 NBC News did a massive write up on the Zizians. 212 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,320 And I say massive, I mean it was like, I 213 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,480 don't know, ten pages long or so I read it 214 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,639 so you don't have to. I am a giver. Ten 215 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:32,720 days after the bodies of Richard and Rita Zacho. This 216 00:15:32,879 --> 00:15:37,120 was the couple in Pennsylvania whose daughter Michelle you know, 217 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:41,000 is believed to have killed them, along with her fellow cultists. 218 00:15:42,039 --> 00:15:45,879 Two or ten days after their bodies were discovered, Pennsylvania 219 00:15:45,919 --> 00:15:51,559 State troopers showed up to a Candlewood Suites motel near 220 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,159 the Philadelphia Airport with a warrant to search the room 221 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:00,120 and the car of the dead couple's daughter, Michelle. One 222 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:02,639 of the troopers later testified in court documents that they 223 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:06,120 were looking for the handgun believed to have been used 224 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:11,639 in the killings. What they found there. Sorry, it's like 225 00:16:11,799 --> 00:16:15,440 total clickbait teas, but still, yeah, we'll tell you what 226 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,960 they found there. 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So the troopers up in Pennsylvania. 248 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:35,000 They get the tip that Michelle Zacho, daughter of the 249 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:40,039 deceased victims, at their home, Richard and Rita Zacho. They 250 00:17:40,079 --> 00:17:44,119 find out she is at a motel, the Candlewood Suites. 251 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,480 They show up, They knock on the hotel room door 252 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,000 and they took her into custody, and as they're leading 253 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:55,680 her out of the hotel, she calls out. She calls 254 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,519 out to the staff at the front desk and tells 255 00:17:59,559 --> 00:18:07,359 them tell Daniel Blank that she is being detained. Hey 256 00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:16,119 tell my conspirator, Daniel Blank, room two o seven. So 257 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,799 she says that and lone behold, the troopers knew who 258 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,920 Daniel Blank was They knew who he was because they 259 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:32,759 had previously interviewed him in connection with this very double homicide. 260 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,240 So they're like, oh, Daniel Blank, you say he's in 261 00:18:37,319 --> 00:18:40,319 this hotel. You say, let us go pay him a visit. 262 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,079 And so they go to the door. They knock. Daniel 263 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:49,759 Blank answers, but doesn't open it. He refuses to let 264 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:53,759 them in without a search warrant, and so they obtain 265 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,440 a search warrant and they come back and they knock again. 266 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:04,920 Nobody responds, so they kick in the door or force 267 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,960 it open. They probably got a key from the front 268 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,400 desk or something. So they opened the door and they 269 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:16,480 found Blank and a second person in the bathroom. So 270 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,599 they got two dudes in there, all right. So they 271 00:19:20,599 --> 00:19:23,920 start telling the person in the bathroom, you know, come 272 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,279 on out whatever, and the person won't move. The person 273 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:33,680 is pretending to be dead, but they're not dead. He's 274 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:41,200 just pretending to be dead. This is zizz aka Jack Lisota, 275 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:47,119 who had already pretended to be dead previously. They had 276 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:52,079 it like a death notice, putting the newspapers in everything, right, 277 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,079 they say, the troopers say, he did not do anything. 278 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,640 He had his eyes closed and he would not speak 279 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,720 he was just laying all almost unconscious, as if he 280 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:04,519 was dead on the ground. But he was not dead. 281 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,599 They picked him up, they dragged him down to the 282 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,400 to the jail. He was ultimately charged with obstructing the 283 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:18,200 investigation and disorderly conduct. Lesota continued to play dead even 284 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,240 when his mugshot was taken. His mugshot is him with 285 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:29,599 his eyes closed, Mike, He's pretending to be dead. In 286 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,519 June of twenty twenty three, though, Lesota was released from 287 00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:37,680 custody after posting ten thousand dollars bail. And then this 288 00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:41,759 may shock you, he failed to return to court, leading 289 00:20:41,759 --> 00:20:45,799 the judge to issue a bench warrant. NBC News, always 290 00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:51,240 respecting the pronouns, says her whereabouts are unknown, not as 291 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:58,960 she guys. It's a dude, Jack Losota from Alaska. So 292 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,640 then there is this thing called the Center for Applied 293 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,880 Rationality or the CAR, or as I call it, the CAR. 294 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:13,480 And this organization is where these cult members all found 295 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:18,440 each other. They began. The CAR began to organize gatherings 296 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:24,720 in Berkeley, California, because of well, of course, in twenty 297 00:21:24,759 --> 00:21:28,440 twelve they started. Its founders were seeking to build a 298 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,440 community of so called rationalists, people who are committed to 299 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:40,839 using mathematical and logical principles to improve the world. Quote. 300 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:47,119 This is from their founder, Anna Saloman. She says, we 301 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,119 saw AI as something that was really really important that 302 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,880 we needed to get really really right or it would 303 00:21:53,920 --> 00:22:00,839 be really really bad, really really Anyway, we didn't know 304 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,519 this at the time, but in hindsight, we were creating 305 00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:11,960 conditions for a cult. Oh yeah, hindsight is twenty twenty misrationalist. 306 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,079 They had brought together a large group of mostly young 307 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,480 people who were open to big ideas about saving humanity, 308 00:22:21,079 --> 00:22:26,079 so loaded with hubris, but some of them, Salomon now believes, 309 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,359 were especially vulnerable to somebody who might try to manipulate them. 310 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,319 Lasota did not come off as a threat when staff 311 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,440 members first met her. Again, this is a NBC News 312 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,839 respecting the pronouns of the psychopath. So when they first 313 00:22:43,839 --> 00:22:47,240 met Leesota, Lsota did not strike them as a threat 314 00:22:49,839 --> 00:22:55,119 until a couple years later, during a month long retreat 315 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,720 in twenty eighteen. Who the hell has time to go 316 00:22:57,759 --> 00:23:02,920 to a month long retreat a month? How do you 317 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,359 get that time off from work? Okay, well they're not working. Okay, 318 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,880 that's my bit. But when Lesota began at this retreat 319 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,279 espousing her belief system his belief system with an intensity 320 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,440 that unnerved Solomon, the founder of CAR, as well as 321 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,160 other staffers. Solomon said quote, I was viscerally afraid of 322 00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:28,400 Lesota in a way I have never been viscerally afraid 323 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,279 of anybody. Really, really, I just added the last really really, 324 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:36,279 Lesota believe that humans have two minds. Ah, here we 325 00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:42,759 go the core philosophy. This guy believes that people have 326 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,079 two minds. I don't know if it's split like right brain, 327 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,359 left brain or something, but you got two minds in 328 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,960 that brain, Okay, a left and a right hemisphere, and 329 00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:58,759 each hemisphere can be good or evil. Eventually, Lesota came 330 00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:05,480 to believe that only very very few people are double good. Okay, 331 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,519 so you get the good side of the brain and 332 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:11,240 the bad side of the brain, and only very very 333 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,839 few people are good good. And this is gonna shock you. 334 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,799 But Lesta is one of the good goods. What are 335 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:24,880 the odds? The one who developed the cult philosophy happens 336 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,440 to be the prime example of the thing that you 337 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,240 should aspire to be. 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That's yeah, that is another hallmark, like they 365 00:26:05,839 --> 00:26:09,839 know the one true way and they will save you. 366 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,319 Everybody else is going to be, you know, negatively impacted, 367 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:22,279 but not them. So Lesota's belief here is that people 368 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:26,680 have these two minds, one's good, one's bad, and very 369 00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:30,000 very very few people have a double good brain. But 370 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,519 luckily for Ziz and all of the Zizians, Ziz has 371 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:37,960 a double good brain, as determined by Ziz. Lesota had 372 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,480 a blog apparently and wrote that each hemisphere of the 373 00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:43,440 brain can have separate values and even genders, and they 374 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,799 often desire to kill each other, which should have been 375 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:50,880 the first alarm that this person is crazy, right, that 376 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,240 should have been your first indication that when they're saying 377 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,440 that their brain is telling them to kill themselves or 378 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,880 the other half of their brain or whatever, like, that's 379 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,319 a pretty good indication. Lesota also described being targeted by 380 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:14,839 police why because he would wear syth inspired garb syth 381 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,839 That is the those are the bad guys in the 382 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:26,119 Star Wars movies. Lyessota wrote on her his blog, sometimes 383 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,359 cops harassed me for wearing my religious attire as a 384 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:36,720 scyth It's not a religion. As a syth, I'm religiously 385 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,799 required to do whatever I want. And well, that's a 386 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,759 convenient religion to have. I'm required to do whatever I want. Wow, 387 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,319 maybe I do. Maybe I prejudge this whole scythism thing. 388 00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:54,000 And for now, he said that that's what happens to 389 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:57,799 include wearing black robes. Over time, Lesota's relationship with the 390 00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:02,200 Center for Applied Rationality soured. On November fifteenth, twenty nineteen, 391 00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:04,960 the Center for Applied Rationality was holding an event in 392 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,400 Sonoma County, California, Lesota, then twenty eight years old, along 393 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,359 with three other cultists, showed up wearing robes and Guy 394 00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:18,240 Fawkes masks. Because of course they were right the guy 395 00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:22,960 Fawkes masks, popularized by the dystopian film V for Vendetta 396 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,920 and later adopted by the leftist hacker group Anonymous, and 397 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,920 they proceeded to block the entrance to the grounds. Police 398 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,960 were called, and the four were ultimately charged with felony, 399 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,160 criminal conspiracy, and five misdemeanors, including false imprisonment. As the 400 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,960 criminal case was still playing out, they hired a lawyer 401 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,400 named Jerry Friedman. They sought him out because he was seth. No, 402 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,200 I'm kidding. He was a vegan. I guess that was 403 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,960 his unique value proposition as a lawyer in a crowded industry. 404 00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:54,400 Like that's how I stand out. I'm the vegan lawyer. 405 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,119 Oh okay. Well. With Friedman's help, they filed a federal 406 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,440 lawsuit against the retreat facility and Sonoma County deputies, alleging 407 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,440 that they were quote falsely arrested while protesting and that 408 00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:08,279 Lesota was stripped naked while in custody and mocked for 409 00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:12,079 being transgender. And then things really went off the rails. 410 00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:15,240 In August of twenty two, Friedman received word that Lesota 411 00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:17,640 was presumed dead after falling off a vote in San 412 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,400 Francisco Bay a brief obituary was even published in Lesoda's 413 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:28,880 hometown newspaper up in Alaska. Lasota's lawyer emailed the attorneys 414 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,359 for the retreat that they were suing and told them 415 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:37,400 Lysota is dead quote. There were no sorry. There were 416 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:42,400 witnesses and a US Coast Guard search, which Friedman, the lawyer, 417 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,680 says he verified with the Coastguard, but no body was 418 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:53,680 ever found. Three months after Lesta's apparent death is when 419 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,839 the landlord out in California, who was eighty years old 420 00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:01,960 at the time, Curtis Lynde was his name. Three months 421 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:09,200 after Lesda's faked death was when Lynde was attacked stabbed 422 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,720 with a samurai sword after being ambushed by a group 423 00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:16,119 of people whom he had been trying to evict from 424 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:22,079 his property. He survived because he was armed with a firearm. 425 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,640 He had a gun, and he shot dead one of 426 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,119 the attackers and injured another, who then was set to testify. 427 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,000 As I mentioned earlier, Curtis was set to the attacker 428 00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:36,799 was set to stand trial. Curtis was the star witness. 429 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,960 Curtis was set to testify, and just days before he 430 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,400 took the stand, he was murdered and the people that 431 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,960 are suspected this may surprise you are the same cult members, 432 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:57,039 the trans Vegan cult. Two days after he was attacked, 433 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,559 one of lsda's other attorneys got an email from a 434 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:04,559 deputy district attorney saying that Lisota was contacted by police 435 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,400 in Vallejo, California this weekend and was quote on scene 436 00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:14,599 alive and well. Two months later, Lesta would be found again, 437 00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:20,400 this time by police in Pennsylvania in the hotel where 438 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,960 he pretended to be asleep or dead again. 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