Speaker 1: Merry Christmas from Off the Bench, presented by All Star Toyota.
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Speaker 2: Tell me that's right back, Ben, Welcome man to a
brand new week of ot B Holiday cheer in the air.
Been really nice and chilly and wonderful and wintry feeling today.
You know, today's gonna feel like whatever feels, but whatever,
the point is vibes or high. And we've got a
college football playoff bracket set and I think it is
absolutely wonderful. I cannot wait to enjoy. What are the
new Doctor Pepper commercials calling it. It's a terribly unwieldy name.
What are they calling it a playoff Feuary or something
basically celebrating the fact that we will have a month
of college football playoffs here coming up in a little bit.
Speaker 3: I cannot wait.
Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints win a game that ended yesterday. Thank
god it ended. Even though I don't know it was,
it was, it was. It was enjoyable in the way
that just like a good sound machine is enjoyable, right,
you don't pay too much attention, but on in the background.
Every now you look up and see a play made
and then in the end your team when that was nice?
That that was kind of nice. Luman's basketball getting a
big win, LSU Tiger football team heading to the Texass Bowl,
good news for the Tulane Greenway or I guess some good,
some bad. Potentially we can win. It's gonna be a
very fun show today. And Jake is back from covering
the SEC Championships in Atlanta. Jake, what's up, dude?
Speaker 4: Doing well? A little little rainy drive in it was
it was.
Speaker 2: Kind of like sketchy rain when I was coming in,
like the point of kind of blindness. It's like like
the interstate slowed down. Normoun' like a why were slowing out?
But even I was like, yeah, yeah whatever. It was
a little it was a little crazy to be safe
out there, guys. Yeah, the game I was that was
a little bit crazy. It was very very boring until
it wasn't. No, it was a fun trip, had fun shows.
A lot to break down in that game. I mean,
Texas certainly dominated the game. Georgia found a way to
come back. I don't know how.
Speaker 5: Far Georgia can go with their lack of weapons, something
I know we'll certainly get into when we start talking
college football playoffs. But always a fun trip and it
just begins the season of travel. I'll be at Army
Navy this weekend, and hell yeah, by the time February
gets here, I think I'll be at home for a weekend.
Speaker 2: That uh, that Army Navy game is going to be
one of the best ever, for sure. Shout out to Army.
Unfortunately it happened at the hands of Greenway, but pretty
damn cool to watch Bryce and Daily and that team
finish off an AAC championship, put Army in.
Speaker 4: The playoffs, and now they're going to the INDEPENDENCEI ball.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah who they playing to game? Yeah?
Speaker 4: They were good fresh champions.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, I mean, we'll break down the championship games.
That's so crazy. Did so many shows over the weekend
that I felt like we'd already talked about that and
it was like time move on. But no, it's Monday.
We just had a weekend full of championships.
Speaker 4: I probably talked about seventy three times.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I've already done like three shows
since then, I believe, so, uh yeah, hell yeah, Landra,
how are we feeling sorry about it? You know? I
hate to see it is what it is.
Speaker 6: Went to the championship game in the first season in
the SEC.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no school, you should be proud of that. Definitely
good good participation trophy nerd the nerd, Yeah, I trust me.
Speaker 6: I hate the text as yeah you okay, either of
the two teams that I root for right now?
Speaker 3: Fair.
Speaker 5: There was so many people there, like I was curious,
like like who's everybody, Like people that don't have a
dog in the fight, Like who are they kind of rooting.
Speaker 4: For right now?
Speaker 5: And it was overwhelmingly like hey, like George has done
it so many times in a row.
Speaker 4: We're tired of it. But we can't be having Texas
come in here the first year.
Speaker 2: The devil you know, is better than the devil you don't.
There's a reason why these sayings exist. Georgia was absolutely
the lesser of two evils and Me and the Cannon
and the a Bear household. On Saturday, unfortunately, uh, we
were cheering for the dog.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Mass There's still something about people barking at me when
I walk back.
Speaker 4: I hate it.
Speaker 2: It's so absurd. Other than that, I love it because
it represents the absurdity of college football, but as a
as a socialized human being in the modern age, I
hate it.
Speaker 5: Yes, one of the things that we do have to
talk about with that game, that is it's a massive
advantage for Georgia to have that game there.
Speaker 2: And it's so it's so funny.
Speaker 4: It was so loud on every Texas third down.
Speaker 2: It's so funny because every time you bring this up
to a Georgia fan, they try to make excuses about
the other team just not traveling. Well, I'm not traveling.
I'm like, no, guys, I mean it's in your homestake. Yeah, yeah, no,
you can go and then drop home and sleep. It
was to it was seventy five, twenty five. It's the
height of them thirty like maybe eighty twenty, like years ago. Okay,
So I guess I feel like especially close to this
conversation because I hosted thereon and so for years I
had to listen to him rip on LSU for not
traveling in that SEC championship on Friday, same thing, yeah, right,
exactly right, And I'm like, well, Okay, First off, LSU
fans knew you weren't even close at Georgia team, so
I don't blame anybody for not traveling. But the bigger
point is it will always be an advantage. And of
course the run up to this game, he tried to say, no, no,
it's gonna be fifty fifty blah blah blah. No, it
will never be. It is a massive advantage for Jordan
to get that game in their backyard when they're gonna
The reason why it didn't matter as much in the
past is because they were never this good, so didn't
make it all the time, and when they would make it,
they weren't necessarily the favorite, whereas nowadays they seem to
make it. Well, they have made it, what seven years
in a row or something. Now you can saying six
or seven years, I don't even know, I mean, and
they're generally the favorite going in.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I actually you actually wanted that much though, well.
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, because Daddy Nick was there.
Speaker 3: On the other side time.
Speaker 4: I just I mean, I was like, you know what.
Speaker 2: Also, a lot of Bammer representation in Georgia as well,
so if there is a fan base that would be
able to compete like with like filling out the state,
like like Auburn Alabama. They're right there. There's a ton
of representation from both those but it's an event.
Speaker 5: Well, I I was curious about Texas and how they
would travel, just because Texas has a lot of money.
Thought the first time that they're going to be in
the game, you know whatever. But no, it was I
mean not even remotely close. And again like there were
some big moments in third downs where I mean it
was loud for the Texas offense.
Speaker 2: Miltzigers is almost like Lshie playing for Nasham Sugar Bowl. Yeah,
I mean, look true, but that's harder to time up.
You know, it's now now I don't even know when
it would be. But it used to be once every
four years. Like this is every single year.
Speaker 6: And just happened to happen. The time that we were
really cool.
Speaker 4: Happened three seven nineteen.
Speaker 6: It's kind of insane, but I will say I went
to my second Christmas party at the season last night.
Speaker 2: Oh wow. I went to brew ha ha.
Speaker 6: We had like a little so like you know the gym,
I go.
Speaker 2: To the block.
Speaker 6: We have a group message with all the girls and
it's like the block babes group message. Oh yeah, so
like the block is just great because like we also
just have like this, you got a community munity.
Speaker 2: There, yeah, community field. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So if you're a girl out there that's looking for
a community that likes to work out and like supports
each other, check out the block. But like we went
to Yeah, so we went to Brew ha ha because Gabby,
who owns the block also owns Brew. So we had
our little Christmas party there last night and it was
Holly is a Holly Dolly Christmas So it was Dolly
Pardon themed. Wow, and it was It was so much fun.
Speaker 2: It sounds like fun all the way around. Yeah, Sunday
night's an interesting night to have it though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, I was home early, so it's fine.
Speaker 4: The holidays, I don't like, do days matter, No, not
not as much it is during season.
Speaker 2: It is very true.
Speaker 4: I'd to say you don't have responsibilities the next day.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I mean, but it's like but it's
like you know, like you know how people are going
party on a Thursday because yeah, you gotta work Friday,
but like Friday, Yeah, you can push through anything. It
is kind of that attitude just writ large an entire
yeah calendar month. Uh taite, how's your weekend?
Speaker 3: I was good except for the drive in this morning.
Speaker 8: Guys, I'm gonna ask everyone in the state of question,
because a lot of people don't seem to know the
answer to it.
Speaker 3: What are emergency flashers for?
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, they're technically not supposed to be the rain right.
Speaker 3: Because it's in the title.
Speaker 8: But now, whenever there's a moderate rain, it's let's slow
down to forty and put our emergency flashers on.
Speaker 6: I just it.
Speaker 3: It blows my mind enough people to do this.
Speaker 2: You're not I don't want to slow I know mind
is slowing down because if you can't see, you gotta
slow down.
Speaker 3: The like, why why are your emergency flashes on? Where's
your emergency?
Speaker 2: You're not technically you're not supposed to write the hazard lights?
Speaker 8: A body mons, Well it helps me, seem like, does
emergency flashers make your head lights brighter?
Speaker 3: How they held us that help?
Speaker 4: We'll see?
Speaker 2: You're your friends an idiot. The argument for hazard lights
in the rain is not for you to see, it's
for others to see. Yeah, I mean, do you have
your lights turned on again. No, no, again, it's not for
you to see. It's for people to see.
Speaker 3: You get that. If your headlights are on, I can
see your tail lights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look this is helping.
Speaker 3: All this is doing to me is I don't actually
know when you're breaking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that does, because you you're having the light refract
on your windshield.
Speaker 4: I A man, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just googled it and I said, you know, what
is the proper time to use your hazard lights when
your vehicles stopped as one, when you're moving slowly as too.
Just check that box in poor weather conditions is three.
Speaker 8: The person that all ran this website. And I'm gonna
ask how driving in weather its Google?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so now you have beef with Google, and well, no,
it's probably the AI AI generating.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 3: I doesn't drive, that's true. AI doesn't.
Speaker 2: Actually, no, that's not. It's kind of like the first
thing that they're getting into is driving kind of like
the main threat to you know, kind of the frontline
jobs almost more than anything driving.
Speaker 6: Okay, there's another comment that will never I'll never give
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Speaker 4: Bit, it's Christmas. All right.
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All right, Uh, let's go okay, So how do.
Speaker 4: We do this?
Speaker 2: Do we want to touch up the championship games? We
dive straight into the bracket. Let's let's let's do a
strade in the bracket. We can talk about the games
in a bit if we want to. But I'll say this.
I agree with the sentiment that was spoused on the
playoff selection show, which is everybody kind of prefacing their
statements that there is no perfect answer, right, And I
agree with that. But ultimately this system is better because
at the end of the day, Jake, I care significantly
less about what the twelfth team getting in and who
gets left out versus the fourth team. Right, Like when
you're talking about the four years, about a real deserving
team not even get an opportunity. Okay, when you get
all the way down to eleven verse twelve, every year,
you're gonna see both sides have legitimate arguments to get in,
and by extension, both sides have legitimate arguments as to
why they got left out right, So like again, if
you would have put out and I would have understood,
I could have seen that. I could see the arguments
you put SMU in. Hell, yeah, I mean I absolutely
see the arguments. So like, yeah, there's always going to
be parties that are upset. But how could you look
at this bracket and not be excited? A bracket that
runs the breadth the you know, the width and link
of the entire country. I mean, look at the top
two seeds Oregon in the Pacific, Northwest, Georgia coming out
of the southeast, and then you have everything in between.
You have all levels of football. But what do all
of these teams have in common. They're all teams that
navigated their regular season better than everybody else. They are
teams that, on Saturdays have been proven to be the
best winners. Not the most talent, not the best Vegas odds,
but the best winners. Football is a game of intangibles,
where the teams the whole, can be greater in the
some of its parts. That's why we play the regular season.
I love this. Are you kidding me. We get Tennessee
going up to Ohio State for an opening round playoff game,
Clemson heading to Texas, s MU up to Happy Valley
Penn State an n state battle Indiana Notre Dame. Then
we get to say, like, if you love college football,
how could you not be excited for this? To me, Jake,
this bracket and the uneven nature of college football is
something that really has come under attack this weekend. Guess what.
The uneven nature of college football is a feature, not
a bug. It's why it's fun. The worst thing that
could come out of this is y'all trying to homogenize
the game that is full of peaks and valleys and
differences and ups and downs and regional differences. Like that's
why college woo ball is different from the NFL. The
NFL is great, it's awesome. Okay, it's the best football
out there from a pure quality standpoint, but it's also antiseptic.
It's very even. Everybody's the same, just with swite little
tweaks differences. This runs the gamut of offensive styles of
defensive styles. Like we said, geographical identities. That's what college
football is great. The eccentricity idiosyncrasies, the randomness. So no,
I like the worst thing that I could hope for
to come out of all of this is that we
overly focus on this one even, this one even, and
then we ruin what has made the sport so unique
and so wonderful. Because when I look at this twelve
team bracket, it looks awesome to me. Everybody's in there,
champions one and all, and now instead of just arguing
about who's going to be best, you get to settle
it on the actual field to play. I could not
be more excited for this first year of the college
football playoff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm right there with you. I know a lot
of people are talking about it. Yeah, we'll look at
the points spreads. These are going to be blowouts. So
they're not going to all be blowouts. You're gonna have
somebody upset somebody. That's just the way that it's.
Speaker 4: Going to be.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: Look, and I am tired of using Vegas as a metric.
I really am t Like that is something that's getting
on mine. There's well, playing a neutral side game these
two teams, this would be the point.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, well we're not doing that.
Speaker 2: You know what you do BAM was favored by twenty
one over Okloma. No, and that's one of countless instance.
But is the BAM and fans of one pushing this? Like,
what was the you were favored by twenty one against Oklahoma?
Speaker 5: Was Arizona the favorite? Are they the underdog in the
Big twelve Championship? I think there was a slight favorite. Well,
I mean I think, yeah, okay, like point spreads and
look at Vegas is good at what they do, but
they lose all the time.
Speaker 2: No, Remember I mean washing in a no chance against
Oregon last year, right, I mean, ac you had no
chance against Issue and it's like we don't even just play.
It's like if you need examples put in front of
your face, you're being willfully obstinate.
Speaker 4: Yes, and so like when I look at this and
I'm right there with you.
Speaker 5: I mean I thought maybe Arizona State would get the
three out the four, but that's that's small because I
mean it's kind of gonna end up being the same situation.
The fact that we get an SEC team going to Columbus, Ohio.
I absolutely love that Clemson has to go because you know,
you you got in about the skinnier teeth, and so yeah,
you gotta go to Austin, Texas.
Speaker 4: You gotta go prove it.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have the toughest road, right You're gonna have
to go through a team like a Texas and then
if you win that, you gotta play a good Arizona State.
If you win that, you're gonna have to play either Oregon,
Ohio State, or Tennessee. So I like that they have
a difficult path, but credit to them for getting in.
Speaker 2: They won They're conference championship. Dude, you should be rewarded
for winning your conference championship.
Speaker 5: Indiana Notre Dame's gonna be fascinating. Indiana best rush defense
in the country. Going against Notre Dame, one of the
best rush offenses in the country, that is going to
be a beautiful rock fight. You start to look at
maybe who is positioned to really make a run and
who might have the best path. Penn State's is it's
pretty nice. You get a team that was G five
just a year ago. They got to come to your place.
Is going to be colder than cold. And then if
you win that, you get another G five team in
Boise State, who's a good team.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to slight them.
Speaker 5: But if you want to look at a path and
then like, if it is Georgia, like I just watched
Georgia play, they've got flaws as well. So yeah, everybody,
Penn State's got a pretty nice path, but as we've
seen in the past, Penn State will Penn State it.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing. Path, path, passmath. Okay, that's
what I say. Like, I loved what Dan Landing had
to say before the Big Ten Championship. He was like,
first off, buys are worth a ton, so this championship
game matters. Also, I don't care about seating because if
you want to be the national champion, you gotta beat
who you gotta beat anyway, So just do it. Just
go out there and win. How about that? And and
here's my other. So there's been so much talk about
strength of schedule, okay, but there's an element in this
conversation that nobody mentions or talking about, and that's this Jake.
I would argue that Arizona State's road to getting here
to the CFP was significantly tougher than Alabama's and it's
due to relative strength of schedule. So near like everybody's
like oh the s he's better, the sc he better.
Look what Alabama? I'm like, rah right right? Okay, but
how about this? Relative to the opponent. Nearly every single week,
Arizona State is punching up in the Big twelve. Right,
they were picked the finish last. Relative to the opponent,
every single week, Alabama was the significantly more talented team.
So why in the world would you want to reward
the team that underachieved versus a team that overachieved and
that goes to any of these conferences? Right, All these
teams relative to their conferences are on an even playing field.
So when you played the actual game of football over
a twelve game, fourteen week sample size, these are the
teams that emerge as being the best and better than
their peers. Football. Again, it goes back to what I
said originally, football is a game of intangibles, where the
whole can be greater than the sum of its parts.
If you just want to create a tournament based off
of recruiting rankings and Vegas ods, go ahead. Okay, but
it's not for me. I want the teams that actually
played the best during the regular season get to play
into the postseason. And that's what you have here right
right here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, I don't think you can really poke
a lot of holes like people were doing in Arizona
State's resume. Now, Arizona State won the Big Twelve, they
were an automatic qualifier, but when you look at their resume,
they have four wins against teams that were ranked at
the time, and two of those are still ranked. So
their resume, actually when you stack it up against even
some others in this college football playoff, is much better.
Speaker 2: I'm more I'm more fighting. I'm not talking about resumes necessarily.
I'm more fighting this idea that out Like, you know,
the sec strength of schedule that.
Speaker 5: Was not by all week in Atlanta was Yeah, Arizona State.
People that don't watch Arizona State, they don't watch football
west of Texas, they didn't understand what I was talking about.
I'm like, no, when you go through what they've done
and two of those wins, you got, like to end
their season, you have to go on the road to
k State, you play BYU, you go on the road
to your rival, and then you got to play sixteen
ranked Iowa State in a conference championship game. So there
was nothing easy about it. And it's the point that
you just made about them having to punch up. They
were picked dead last in this conference, sixteen out of sixteen,
and their losses on the year road losses, and they
had their best player was banged up in those losses,
and so I mean it's a team that's been in
playoff mode since they went on the road to Little Manhattan.
Speaker 2: Leonard da Vinci Alabama fans tea Bob's a moron. ASU
is not a power for a team. It would have
gotten skull drug in the SEC in the Big Ten. Well,
it's army, not in over Indiana. Under T BOP's ACIDI comments,
the Sun Belt championshould be in No. So you have
to understand in my hometown, any conversation, any conversation about
this starts with some things that we accept as being
true as kind of our base guidelines. We accept that
there is a power four versus the Group of five. Okay,
now we may believe that there's a big two within
that power four, but the clear lines of delineation are
between the power four, who all get auto bids, and
then the Group of five as a whole. So no,
the Sunbelt Champions should not be in because our original
our original settings for deciding this is that the group
of five are all up together. We try to choose
the best group of five team. Okay, so no, some
bel champions shouldn't be in, though the Sunbelt champion had
a more impressive regular season. Then did Alabama? Like again,
if you're Alabama, if you're all Miss, if you are
who's the other three lost team? I'm blaking well South
Carolina maybe not as much. But if you're Alabama All Miss, Yeah, look,
I'm sorry. Guys. You were the better team every single weekend.
You were better than lsu Ole Miss. You were better
than kentucky'll miss Alabama, you were better than Oklahoma, you
were better than Vanderbilt. But guess what? Why didn't you win?
Speaker 9: Then?
Speaker 2: If you had more talent, if you are the better team,
and we can all say, well, I know who the
best teams are. I know this team. When I know this,
then why didn't you win? Because from where I'm sitting,
y'all underachieved. Why should you get rewarded and get excuses
made for you for underachieving? It's absurd, It's absurd. It's
almost as if you just want free handouts. Could it
be you Alabama fan. Surely not, Leonardo. Come on now, dude,
get the hell up out of here. This freaking tournament's awesome.
Speaker 5: I do disagree with you, Jonathan inside the chat. The
Big twelve is a week conference. It's not going to be,
oh my gosh, let's compete with the SEC from top
to bottom. But to say it's a weak conference, I
think is disingenuous because you've got, you know, in this
conference alone, you've got a BYU team that's ten and
two that beat SMU, who's in.
Speaker 4: The College Football Playoff.
Speaker 5: You've got a ten and three Iowa State team, You've
got a nine and three Colorado team. You've got an
eight and four Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, and Kansas State.
So that kind of tells you that every single week.
And also you got Kansas who at the end of
the year where they got healthy, they were beating people.
I think you have to look at the totality of
this conference. I'm not saying you're stacking up with the SEC,
not even close, right, I get that. But to say
it's a weak conference, I think is just someone that
hasn't watched a lot of Big twelve football. Because it's
got a lot of parody in it, top to bottom,
and you've got again, like the middle portion of your
conference is still like an eight and four Kansas State.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's it's it's absurd. It's absurd. In fact,
they probably closely closest mirror is the SEC in terms
of top to bottom kind of relative equality. And and
make no and and he sometimes you know, you know
when sometimes people tell on themselves. Here's leonardists comment, Alabama
did not deserve me near the playoff, but sm you
deserved the last Alabama lost all but one, coaching forty
players in the portal. Oh damn. So here it comes out,
you know, here the truth comes out. And that's the
dirty truth in all of this dialogue and debate. Who
said so much of it is just Alabama fans who
for fifteen years are used to being on top and
finally now they're on the outside looking in, and they
cannot fathom why, and they cannot compute it, you know,
the spoiled child. You're like Dudley from Harry Potter. Last
year I got forty one presents. Well guess what, Vernon,
he ain't getting you two more at the zoo Dudley, Sorry,
you fat little pig. Here's a little tail from your boy.
T Hagrid.
Speaker 8: Yes, Taylor, so many like all the talking heads on ESPN,
like you're talking about like can't fathom that Alabama's not
in it. Their biggest argument for weeks now has been, yeah,
Alabama's got three losses, but like, huh, I mean, I
guess we shouldn't schedule tough games.
Speaker 3: You didn't lose your tough guy.
Speaker 8: No, dude, you got blown out by an Oklahoma team,
and congratulations, you gave them two of their SEC wins
this year.
Speaker 3: You gave them one of their two.
Speaker 8: Vanderbilt, you were a twenty point favorite, put forty points
on you there and six Like, the only good.
Speaker 3: Team you lost through this year was Tennessee.
Speaker 8: So you can sit there and say, oh, well, you
know they have so many wins first off, LSU and Missouri.
Look where lsuvents not as good of a win as
everybody's making it out to be. Like Alabama's got two
good wins as far as I'm concerned, and they have
two really really bad losses.
Speaker 9: It's just so it's just this this whole team thing
is so weak minded, soft, pathetic whatever sending him you
want to use.
Speaker 2: It is such a a a joke as to the
point of being embarrassing. Greg Byrne should be embarrassed with
his comments. You lost to your conference schedule. You didn't
go out of conference and lose a game. You lost
to the dreads of your conference in at least one
case in Oklahoma. Like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 5: All three SEC teams lost only conference games, right, Yes,
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: What Alabama didn't?
Speaker 2: You freaking losers dude all around? And trust us, I
know about losing out of conference games. Guess what I don't.
And that's anohing. I see owt LSU does we need
to reschedule cliff? That cuts a cliff that immediately. Hey,
how about you drop your nuts? Okay, I'm so freaking
sick of it. How about you drop your nuts and
you win the game. If you want to be a
good team, you gotta win. If you want to play
the fairy dance and try to, you know, daintily tiptoe
your way through the regular season, go ahead, Hey.
Speaker 4: For me, my bad, I mean I go far. No, that's.
Speaker 5: It's a valid point because it's it's nothing to do
with the non con nothing like for those teams, there's
nothing to do with it. It's all like it's it's
the conference games.
Speaker 2: It exactly, exactly exactly. But again the point is, yes,
the SEC is the best conference, obviously, but also the
the team's relative to one another. It's no different than
the Big Twelve, it's no different than these other conferences.
So I'm not just gonna reward you because you have
higher recruited rankings or because Vegas would favor you. I
don't care. I don't care. It's not how sports work,
and that's not how I want college football work. I
want college football to remain weird and wonderful and quirky
and a bit uneven, because that's where the magic happens,
right in those disparities. Again, I mean, you said TCU Michigan.
There's billions, not billions whatever. There's plenty of examples from
which you choose kind of reinforce that point.
Speaker 4: Are you surprised that the committee put in SMU over.
Speaker 2: No because where they ranked SMU last week and how
the game played out, they had to.
Speaker 5: I know, I'm not talking about the analytics and the
metrics and all that. I'm just saying like you're actual,
like in your heart of hearts when you were sitting
down watching the selection show when they said and with
the last seed coming in at number eleven, it will be.
Speaker 2: To be fair. Brett McMurphy broke it right as the
show started, which was very funny, But there was still
something in the back of my head that was like maybe,
but I know, but there was still something in the
back of my head that like, maybe Murphy's like got
bad info. Like I was still thinking like last year,
that I could see that Crimson tide a come up
once again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so I didn't. I didn't see Brett's report
before that. So I was watching it like piz Man.
I was watching it. He probably thought he was like
doing good too. I was watching it live, and I
fully expected to see that Alabama A on the screen,
like and I know, like all the metrics, all the
analytics and where they were and SMU and the job
they did in the a SEC Championship game. I thought
SMU should get in, but I fully expected to see
the Alabama A. And so Katie and I are sitting
there watching it, and when I saw the pony.
Speaker 4: Pop up there, I was like oh be no way exactly.
I think probably what I said.
Speaker 5: Calmed down put the I think I said, they don't
put the ponies in. It surprised me, like even though
I thought, based off the data that we had, it
was probably going like it.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not probably going.
Speaker 5: To be it should have been SMU based off where
they were, how they played that game, where Alabama was.
But I did think that Alabama was gonna get the
benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they did not. And again, Alabama is just
an extreme example of a conversation that we'll have multiple
times in this thing when we pick a team at
large to get in the last spot. It's gonna happen
every year. It's definitely more extreme this year because it's
been the team for the past decade and a half
that's in the conversation. But this will happen every year.
But guess what again, if Alabama gotten in and SMU
gotten left out, I wouldn't felt bad for SMU either.
It's it's the last spot in the playoff, Like, I
don't care. Okay, they're functionally even whichever two teams you're
gonna be choosing from. So it is what it is.
I'm just excited for this tournament as a whole to
get to take place. All right, when we get back,
maybe maybe talkable say the LSU to the textest ball,
keep it locked right here on OGB.
Speaker 1: Off the bench.
Speaker 10: Frosty the snow Man, What is it?
Speaker 4: John?
Speaker 10: He had be solcome.
Speaker 1: Back to sports talk? Maybe off the bench.
Speaker 10: Frosty the snow Man is a very tale. They say
he was made of snow, but the children know Hall
came to nine one day the most demands magic in
that old silk, and they found But when they placed
it on his head, he began to dance around here.
Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? Welcome back the snow Man, OTB talking playoffs.
You know we got some talk about. But it's gonna
be hard for me to get out the playoff right away.
Just so pumped for it. You know, my toxic nature
dictates though, Jake, what's that? I think I'm cheering for
little old Clemson. I don't even know how I got here,
but I can just feel it. Hey wouldn't be Hey,
what if you're in first? Every three lost match jam?
You know I'm saying. I mean a whole lot of
people have to say sorry. Then they keeps saying Damo
can't win, Davo can't win. Well, looking look at looking
at old Clipson. Now ball, we back in this thing.
Speaker 3: Not entirely, I'm not entirely against you.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They're not the team I'm pulling for.
Speaker 5: Nerds, turn these two phones off and who say it?
Speaker 2: Could it be us? You know if you take a laugh?
Speaker 4: Come on now, I expect this kind of trash from Taylor.
You ever go to you.
Speaker 2: Ever go down sliding football? Ops?
Speaker 4: Man, Come on Outler feels Clemson.
Speaker 2: You're a twelve star by book. You ever seen him
a dazzled BCS championship? I mean, come on now, did
you see what that's like?
Speaker 6: You know who else had twelve people?
Speaker 4: Buy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly exactly right around this time of year too.
You know, let's go.
Speaker 3: But likes.
Speaker 2: Look to be okay. To be clear, to be clear,
I'm cheering for Clemson against the big dogs of course.
No no, no, no no, no no no no. This is
not about Texas. This would be about Clemson. No no,
this would be about Clemson rolling through them. Then maybe
like Oregon or Ohio State like I'm talking about, I
would out of the big dogs, the big brands. I
think it would be deeply funny if Clemson, and especially
in this day and age where everything's shifting and becoming
more and moral and more more money driven, if the if,
the if, the Clemson Emperor were to strike back from
the grave. Although no, look man, I like, yeah, that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But I can't get on board.
Speaker 2: But I like underdogs. I mean, you know, my number
one thing the bullet is Indiana obviously.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well by the metric though that you used for Clemson, right,
you gotta listen.
Speaker 4: You got a god fearing old coach.
Speaker 5: I want you to go out there and just play
some bald then you should be going for Boise States Boys.
Speaker 2: And I like the under I've just said it. I
like boys. I got no problem Boise Broncos and Mustangs.
A horse on horse, you know, little donkey po.
Speaker 8: I gotta credit Jake on this one, right, James have
been on this guy all year. I gotta credit him.
I gotta go with him. Scattaby, that's the team I'm
pulling for.
Speaker 4: If I was like, hey, you can pick the national champion.
Speaker 8: Kenny Dellingham thirty four years old, I mean they had
a point five percent chance to win the Big Twelve
coming under the year.
Speaker 5: I wonder, I wonder what the odds and maybe the
father well he's not probably up right now, but if
he was, like what that was for them to win
the Big Twelve before, that's a good question.
Speaker 2: I'll say this about Scataboo. There are a few things
that make me believe in fate or destiny or maybe
that we're living in a simulation or an idiocrasy. As
much as watching cam Skataboo be crowned Big twelve WWE
Player of the Game and also Monster Energy Player of
the Game and be given a giant WWE belt with
to celebrate on stage. I mean, that is just fantastic stuff. Also,
when they cut to scataboo parents and you can see
that both of them had sleeve tattoos, you knew where
it all came from.
Speaker 5: I had a lot of people asking, he is not
my sixth child, but he can be adopted. Maybe maybe,
I mean, if you need to do that, we can
do it.
Speaker 2: Chat was very impressed that you made it from the
game to the SEC Championship on time. I'm very proud
of you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is a dog and he's not just.
Speaker 5: He's not just okay, well, I mean he's you know
this guy, he can run over people. He's probably gonna
run a four eight. He's none, no, no, no, Like he
is super athletic. He has some of the best balance
that I've seen, just kind of and he'll like a
steady he'll hit somebody and then kind of like go
three steps sideways, but then go full speed.
Speaker 2: Bro. That's that that spin off the hit into cutback on.
I don't know if his power. I can't remember what
type of running play it was, but I mean he
had a ton of these runs, but there was one
in particular, the spin off the hit into cutback in
that was just it was unreal scataboo really on a
national stage. And then doing the Heisman every touchdown was
excellent as well.
Speaker 4: All right, I appreciate the hustle there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah, Well, trying to get his name in
New York.
Speaker 5: Why not again, because like there's a lot of people
that and this is this isn't a shot like it
at any the Southeast, the Northeast, the Midway. There's just
a lot of people that don't watch football west of Texas. Yeah,
and you might not know who he is, and like,
so last year, Scattaboo used to come in. He played
running back obviously, but he would come in like and
a bunch of wildcat situations. And there was so many
people that hit me up on Twitter. Wait, I thought
that guy played quarterback. I'm like, no, that was wildcat
situations last year when they were kind of desperate.
Speaker 4: He's in fact or running back.
Speaker 2: Obviously, there's any state it had one hundred and one
preseason odds to win the conference. Seesh, all right, when
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Speaker 1: Welcome in to the best morning sports this show around
off the Bench with Ester and t Bob.
Speaker 2: Oh welcome back guys, to otb wrap it up our
one here. Uh look, yeah, Clemson can absolutely be Texas
around one. Let's be clear, we don't really like Texas
against We don't have a great temple size against good teams, right,
I mean they lost both games to Georgia and now
they were close, and granted with how good Georgia is,
you imagine they played that well like they should be
to be Clemson. But then again, I mean like that
and he was close. The A and M game was
not close. The score kind of was, but also Clemson's
offense significantly better than A and M's and their defensive.
So I mean, I don't know. I think it's gonna
be really good game. Tennessee Ohio State gonna be a
really good game. Here's one thing I would say about
the playoff committee. I think it is wild that you
have sitting ads in presidents on that thing, Like, how
is ward manuals supposed to make because Tennessee and Ohio
State were basically even resume wise, how is he supposed
to make an objective decision on who gets the home
game there? Like that's crazy And you could say, oh,
but he TOAs for Hose, we have what I'm saying,
bias works both ways, right. Does he want to be
perceived as being against Ohio State? Does he want to
help out the Big ten? Because as Jake very solidly
point out, when you're talking aout this commercial, like you
make more money, right, So it's it's it's crazy to
me that you can have But the funniest part is,
but they do hang their hat at the door guys. Okay,
they literally hang a hat at the door as they
enter the room. You know what, the most shocking thing
about the video of the playoff committee a lot of
people saying, like, you know, no snacks, no beer, no
thing like that. Uh no, no pets, no computers. Yeah,
are they all just taking mental notes? I thought that
was pretty wild because I do this job and I
have to write some down or I will not remember
the points I want to make. Maybe they have legions
of people taking notes underneath them they can ask anything to.
But it was a bit shocked that there were just
no no pets out.
Speaker 5: There there that whole scene. I think my tweet was
I've seen more joy at the DNV.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 5: They looked miserable in that room, and you're right, no computer,
no notepad, no snacks, no beers, no joy. I mean
set up my setup in like West campus apartment rivaled that.
Speaker 4: What do we We're the college football Playoff Committee.
Speaker 5: Can we get like a badass set up with like
better team. They they went and got the TCL deal
down at Walmart for seventy nine dollars on Black Friday,
sell to throw up there for the committee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, is that a bunch of bunch of tcls
up there. I mean that is a good price, to
be fair.
Speaker 5: I mean it is, but that's what they went and got.
Like what do we do and like put these son
of a guns in a movie theater and have a
four screen up or something.
Speaker 2: So that that's my only thing about the committee is like,
but then again, I mean maybe you say, well, then
who do you pull from? I'm sure you're putting together
a panel of college footbadge. But there. I guess everybody's
gonna have some biases, but like not as much as
any active ad or president biases like war manuals. Conference
gets more money the more big ten teams get in
this thing. I'm not you know, I'm not even saying
that you even try to do it, but just like
it just happens organically, like in your mind, right, go
get somebody like a Matt Brown who just finished coaching. Okay,
he's coached in the Big twelve, the ACC, he's been
an assistant in the SEC. Right, he's touched all these
different conferences. He wouldn't have a current bias. And so
I mean, you're you're.
Speaker 5: Always gonna have some like T Bob said, I agree
there at least get away from current biases.
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