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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: It's eight am here on Monday, March second. Today and

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An hour two of today's show, we'll talk about some

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targets for the New Orleans Saints as we look back

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on the NFL combine. Maybe smellows you football as well.

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Speaker 3: The plays get broken down and science gets denied.

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Speaker 1: Got to come off the bench.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in our number two about TV.

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Speaker 4: Hell, i'll gome back in real studio, Jake Flynn most

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and here what you'll say?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you dirty rat.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why we just go nineteen twenties there

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always that's my go to it. Yeah, I got really, yeah,

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it's all I got. Yeah, when it comes the old accents,

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so I didn't an accent, but I did roll my

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tongue the other day when I said congratulations to dry

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it up river. Obviously, we don't know if you're enough

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to bench River's all. Well, it's also fair. It's also fair.

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Speaker 4: Uh, before we get into a New Orleans Saints discussion

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about what they could do, they was judging me over

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in Indy, obviously I'm trying to put my ear to

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the ground to see what the New Orleans Saints are

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going to do. Now, I saw a lot of teams

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that I never really saw a lot of Saints personnel,

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like obviously they're there, but I was hoping to run

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into Mickey Loomis. I was hoping to see if we

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could get him on the show. I know Kellen Moore

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was kind of doing a lot of different things. He

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was doing like a uh surface ad A couple of

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different times I saw him like the actual Microsoft.

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Speaker 1: I saw the actual woman with him at Schuck. Yeah,

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like a whole commercial. Yeah, so he was busy. Okay,

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you know I should have seen.

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Speaker 4: I should have seen if Tolsy was there, he might

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not have been there either way. So I'm trying to

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figure out, Okay, what are the New Orleans Saints going

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to do? And I think a lot of people, you know,

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depending on how it falls. You know, you never know.

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Somebody you love, my fault to you that you weren't expecting.

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But a lot of people are expecting it to be

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an all defensive player and an offensive skill player and

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a receiver.

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Speaker 1: You start to look at this receiver class.

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Speaker 4: All right, Jordan Tyson, who was there but didn't do

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anything except bench press because he's still nursing a hamshrink

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that he got at Arizona State. Okay, Jordan Tyson, great player,

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has had some injury history. It worries you a little bit, right,

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red Flax, whenever you have a ham shring, soft issue

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or a receiver, no doubt about it. So he's still

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dealing with that. Okay, We've got to put that in

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our memory bank. Cardinal Tate Carnal Tate ran a four

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to five certainly not the time that all the other

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receivers were putting out there. The receivers were a very

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impressive group. I'm not saying four or five slow. It's not,

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but it's not elite either. He's six three, one hundred

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and ninety five pounds, so he's in that frame that

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you're looking for. But Cardinal Tate, and again this is

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a good football player, But Cardinal Tate's never been Batman.

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He's only ever been Robin. Marvin Harrison Junior was the

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number one receiver two years ago. Jeremiah Smith was the

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number one receiver this year. Cardinal Tate's always been the

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second receiver. Now he can go have a very productive career.

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He can make a lot of plays. But are you

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going to take a guy that's only ever been number

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two in the top ten? You have to ask yourself

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that question because if you take somebody in the top ten,

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they got to be one. Even if you have Chris Lave.

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to be teddor Old McMillan, who just won Offensive Rookie

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of the Year. Right, you can't be Robin and be

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a top ten pick?

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Speaker 1: Is it? In there.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it is, but we don't know. He's always been

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a secondary piece to somebody that was. You know, Marvin

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Harrison Junior a top ten pick. Jeremiah Smith's going to

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be a top ten pick. Right then we get to

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Denzel Boston then had the best combine. All right, all right,

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you go to Makaya Lemon. They do a whole lot

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at the combine. He's also five ten and some change

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one hundred ninety pounds. You're looking for something. I think

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I think a little bit different, looking for a different

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body type.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: I love Omar Cooper Junior out of Indiana, love everything

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about that guy's game. Okay, but he's not a top

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ten pick. We know that he's a top forty pick.

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Maybe you get him at forty two. Maybe. But I

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bring that up because is there really a receiver that

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you can trust right now at eight?

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Speaker 1: I don't know that there is.

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Speaker 4: It's not to say there's not talented enough receivers, but

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with the top guy on a lot of people's board

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an injury guy, a guy that's missed games, a guy

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that missed the combine because of injury, and the other

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guy being a guy, it's always been a two never

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to take that guy in the top ten?

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Speaker 4: And I gotta be honest, I don't know that I

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would feel comfortable right now. And as much as I

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want the Saints to at a playmaker, I don't know

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that it can come from the receiver position.

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Speaker 5: Top ten is so tricky because that's how everybody always

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feels like, if you're a top ten pick, you got

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to go in and be Superman. You got to be

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go in and make an immediate impact, which isn't always

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the case, you know. I guess counter argument to that

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would be, like, you don't have to make a pick

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that makes that always has to.

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Speaker 1: Make that immediate impact.

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Speaker 5: It can be somebody that you have that's going to

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make a bigger impact over the next four or five

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years and not necessarily immediate.

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Speaker 1: I guess the other.

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so you're not looking for your absolute number one with

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and the number two receivers so far below, Like this

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could be like a one A, one B situation. But

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I asked Nick Underhill last week about this, Like, to me,

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the positions of need nobody is sticking out, like Okay,

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look it's the Saints. There's a lot of positions in need.

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I get it. But for what everybody is thinking is

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the obvious pick. Help your your your new franchise quarterback out,

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give them weapons. Like this draft to me screams trade back.

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Yeah for me now, because a lot of those names

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you mentioned, you'd feel what you let's say, a completely

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different conversation if you're picking them at eighteen nineteen or

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twenty five, twenty.

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Speaker 1: Six, completely different.

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Speaker 5: Completely You're like, yeah, take that guy for sure, that's

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a no brainer at that position. Which there's so many

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receivers being talked about in this first round, like they're

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gonna be some of those guys are going to be available,

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and they're gonna be available into the second round. So

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there's so many positions to do like this, This draft screams,

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screams trade back. But that is not making Lewis's playbook. No,

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I think everybody would like to do that. If you

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are going today you brought up the linebacker from Ohio

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State at the end of our one, Like, if you're

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going to do something like that, that's truly a best

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player available type situation. That's the same you same could

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be said for Jeremiah Love as well, best type of

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player available. It's not a pick that you were a

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team like the Saints that has all these different needs.

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Those two positions aren't necessarily the sexy picks or the

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picks that you want for that for where the Saints

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are right now, but they're probably going to be people

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that are going to be very productive for multiple multiple years.

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But you would like to either get more assets or

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hit an asset that is going to make any immediate impact.

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To your point, like nobody is just jumping off the

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board to you, right, You're like, ye, that's an obvious choice.

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He'll definitely be there, you know, at pick eight, and

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it's an obvious choice for what our need is. So

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if you're not going to take best player available, don't

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reach and take a second round wide receiver in a

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top ten pick, trade that asset because you could probably

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get him in the twenties.

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Speaker 4: And so if that's the case, right, if you don't

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trade back because that hadn't been their mo to your point,

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and if you do, I love what you just laid

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Speaker 1: But if you've done.

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Speaker 5: First and you can get another second, or you can

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get another third or something like that, and you need

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it in positions there's going to be there's like we

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talked about defensive end, you want to rush here, there's

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so it's so deep, there's gonna be rushers available in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Trader, this class is deep with three e's in

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the middle of edge.

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Speaker 5: Rusher trade your first rounder, get an extra third this

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year at a fifth next year.

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Speaker 1: Right, you know what I mean. I love that plan.

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I do.

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Speaker 4: That's how I should I if I was a general

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manager or if I was the assistant you were the GM.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do. It's not what Mickey Loomis is

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probably going to do. Yeah, Lewis probably like sees that.

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Speaker 5: What's the linebacker's name, Ohio State, Sunny Styles, Sunny Styles.

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His performance of the combine just made your eighth pick

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more valuable.

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Speaker 1: Trade, Oh, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Now if Washington doesn't select him at seven, and if

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he makes it there now, but if they don't and

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you sit there and you're kind of a hand that

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we don't know exactly where you're leaning, Oh my gosh,

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you hold the power of the world in your hands

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during that moment, during that part of the day. You know,

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teams are like Oh my god, we need Sonny Styles.

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You know that you look good or could be RVL

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Speaker 1: Don't think Mike Brable would like to see him at

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a Patriots uniform, right, And they'll give it up from Yeah, yeah,

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they'll give up a lot. I'll give up a lot

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because that guy is going to be so again because

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I want it's a young gun offense right, young at

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the most expensive position. So yeah, mhm. And I worked

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NFL in the front office, and he said there might

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only be two gold jacket guys in this draft, and

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he said, I think Sonny Styles is one of them, right,

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be willing to move up. So again, like that's a

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play that we would like to It's not probably going

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to happen. It's just not the way that they go

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about the NFL draft. So if they don't, if they

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stay at eight, they're still looking for a playmaker good.

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Kenyon Sadik out of Oregon. The tight end maybe fit

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what they're looking for because he's an F. He's not

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a y tight end, right, we talk about that all time.

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is going to be an extension of the offensive line.

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He's got three fingers and they're in the ground and

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he's attached to that tackle. The F is think more,

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Travis Kelcey, think Antonio Gates. You caught an everybody he

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caught an H.

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Speaker 1: What'd you call the other tight end?

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Speaker 6: You?

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Speaker 1: I've never heard that. You're wrong. So half as a fullback?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if the fullbacks and a half is twelve person,

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second tight end.

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Speaker 1: Silly. And if he's not the F, he's the H

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and a lot of offenses you I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Why that's for those people that have those offenses, all

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the dumb guys on it.

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Speaker 4: Sure, Bud, okay, the second tight end because Matthew thinks

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only the Green Bay Pack came up with offensive football, right,

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so the second tight end?

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Speaker 1: All right? Keep going? Sorry, what would you like to

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label this tight end? Bud tight Yeah, but not the

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why the other one? It's different?

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Speaker 4: Though, every team has one guy that is going to Okay,

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you don't mute his microphone when you play with a

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tight end that's got a gold jacket named Antonio Gates.

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That isn't the best inline blocker. He can do some

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of it. He's willing, but he's not the best. We

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call that guy an f and that is what I think.

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Sadiq is probably going to play at the next level. Okay,

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So if you're the New Orleans Saints and you know

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that information, Foster Morrow is going to be a free agent,

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Taysom mill who knows, all right, So you got Juwan Johnson.

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I don't know that i'd love him as my WHY

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tight end either. He's not the best blocker in the world.

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But if you do sign a true WHY tight end,

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could he be the guy that is your playmaker that

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you're looking to add. You're gonna ask him to do

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some tight end stuff. You're also going to ask him

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to do some slot receiver stuff, all right. So he

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measures in at six three, two hundred and forty one pounds,

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four to three nine on the forty forty three and

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a half inch vertical jump, eleven to one on the

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broad jump. In twenty six reps of two twenty five

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on the bench press. That might actually be the most

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important number. That tells me he's got some strength to him.

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That tells me he can handle maybe some stuff in

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the run.

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Speaker 1: Game, some wide tendencies. There you go, you're picking up

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Antonio Gates chargers position. F who's your tight ends in

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Green Bay? A bunch? The best one? Uh? Well? Early

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on Jre Michael Finley. Okay, as Antonio Gates for a

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couple of years, he's better. Look it up.

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Speaker 4: You think that he was ever better than Antonio Gates

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for a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: To his mom and dad, that's it. And I guess

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you all right, we're talking about somebody that's maybe the

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best ever at his position. You're an idiot anyways, best

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ever in his position? Just reach y'all? Can y'all help

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me here? He's f though, which it's a Y and

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an F?

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Speaker 4: What what offenses were you in that you didn't label

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the tight end?

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Speaker 1: So was he ever?

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Speaker 6: At?

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Speaker 1: Was he ever the only tight end on the field? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: They didn't became the why, but a lot of times

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we were in twelve personnel and the why would be

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detached or be attached.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say he ever did it, like he only

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did one thing, but he was more of an F

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tight end twelve personnel. There's a Y and there's an F,

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or there's a Y and there's a U. However you

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label it. You know what I'm talking.

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Speaker 4: About, Michael Finn, Like that is that's egregious, as an

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egregious statement that you just reaction I got though, I

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don't even remember what I was talking about anyways. Uh

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So the Saints could potentially see this guy Kenyon City

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got at Oregon as maybe the playmaker at eight taty.

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Speaker 1: I know that you mentioned.

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Speaker 4: Ross wrote an article on Louisiana Sports dot Net about

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this because he's not lasting much longer than eight I

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don't think, not after what he did at the Combine.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean he's going first round for sure.

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Speaker 2: Like LuSE actually brought this up when he was hosting

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on AFR Friday, and then Ross included him as well,

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like an Eli Stower's a couple of rounds later.

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Speaker 1: Was a guy that people loved.

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Speaker 2: But look if you're in love with the Kenyon Sadi,

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we see a lot of people do this recently. Like

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I mean, I understand he wasn't the flashiest guy in college,

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like a brock Bowers. But brock Powers did it and

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kind of set the league on fires. A rookie was

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really the only weapon the Raiders had. Like you see

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tight ends getting drafted higher and higher because the position's changed.

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Speaker 4: Matthew, would you take a tight end? Nope, Nope at

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a high No, I'm taking sight at eight. We've seen

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this happen before. Now brock Bowers went a little bit later.

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Cal Pitts did go before Tamar Chase.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Raiders lost like every game too. All Lions

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actually did that.

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Speaker 2: If you'all remember with Eric Ebron a couple of years

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ago with uh out of North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Now that's that's what the Lions pre r Campbell.

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Speaker 5: Has there ever been a tight end taking top ten that? Like,

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everybody agrees that that that was a great, great move.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Vernon Davis pretty damn good for a long time.

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To you to your point though, was he Gosh, she

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was really good? But want to you want to take

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you again?

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Speaker 5: It's the same, It's the same conversation trade back into

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the twenties.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's nobody's complaining the.

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Speaker 4: Fact that we can kind of remember the one that

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kind of worked kind of worked out.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that we we've failed to mention that there Saints

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do have a very valuable trade asset.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, I thought I was told that it wasn't

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a good backup quarterback. No. Oh, Derek Carr. Oh, he's

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not host of the Homegrown Network, if anyone.

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Speaker 5: That we can talk about as a whole segment. But

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I did hear, and I'd like to ask Nick Underhill.

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There are rumors saying that they Saints have filled it

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approximately zero calls of interest for Derek Carr.

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Speaker 1: That's less than one.

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Speaker 5: That's less than one, top one and one that's true.

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Not a single call, not a single call. Apparently he's

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a report of the damn New York Jets. Come on,

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what do you have to lose at this point? Apparently

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the Jets are talking with the Cardinals Tyler Murray currently.

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That seems that seems like a fit. Sure, And it

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also seems like the Vikings said that they're ready to

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move on from JJ McCarthy. That's reports ready, These are

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reports from the Twitter.

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Speaker 7: I mean there's talk of Kirk Cousins potentially, I mean

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not back in Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Minnesota. Some of the whispers in Indie War. They

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liked Anthony Richardson too.

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Speaker 2: Oh geez, what you know Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell's pushing that.

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He's like, please go get Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 5: And so last off season there was a lot of

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talking about Aaron Rodgers to Minnesota, but Minnesota ended up saying, no,

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we're gonna stick with JJ McCarthy. So now that they

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don't want to stick, is that potential I don't know?

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Speaker 4: So fun So the news of Anthony Richardson asking for

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a trade, I think that broke on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they Hamilton Tiger Cats were all over it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so Tuesday they were actually they were at the combine.

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I saw them represented. Yeah, trade, great to meet you.

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Speaker 1: I said, hey, do you watch that hockey game? You bum?

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Speaker 4: So we had changed styching on Tuesday, Colts head coach,

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Sorry if you don't know that. And we of course,

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like we talked about Philip Rivers for like the first

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ten minutes because we were all together in San Diego.

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That's how I know Shane, and so how awesome that was,

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blah blah blah whatever. And so I was like, all right, well,

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shanell me about your quarterback room. Currently and he's like,

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all right, yeah, yeah, we want to sign Daniel Jones back,

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like we're actively trying everything we can, and goes we

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got Anthony Richardson and Riley leonard On and I'm like, oh, he's.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna be Yeah, that's bad.

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Speaker 4: Oh he's I hope other teams don't listen to this

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because they're gonna know that.

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Speaker 1: You'll take a bag of peanuts.

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Speaker 4: Right now for Anthony Richardson sure, because it was it

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was Daniel Jones, well thousands, tens of thousands, it was

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Daniel Jones. Wax Poetic Fly by Anthony Richardson, and that

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told really nice about Ryland or what he did, so

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you kind of.

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Speaker 1: Like that felt like it was coming.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And look, Shane Siken said, when they drafted Anthony Richardson,

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we're married.

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Speaker 1: I know it. My career is going to be his career.

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I get that. But it looks like that that's gone

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out the wind. They're not married anymore. They're not married.

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They got a divorce. The kids gotta choose what never consummitted.

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Speaker 4: So all right, we gotta take a break, but we

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. You put a term

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Speaker 4: A term to it because it's a different player, just

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like an uh A tailback in the fullback are different,

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they do some similar things.

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Speaker 1: So twelve personnel is what two tight ends it is?

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That's that's it. You answered it, no, because not those

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two tight ends don't have to be the same. If

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you got two y's in there that are just road

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grader yatles, it's not too wise. They play the tight

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ends in a playbook? Is this say tight ends the same?

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Speaker 5: And when they're when they're in meetings and they get

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a position meetings, which room do they go into?

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Speaker 1: I go to the running back room? But I'm playing fullback,

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00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,200
you dumb dumb, Yes.

474
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Speaker 5: Bro, you are making stuff up because you are so

475
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,119
in entrenched in media talk that you have to give up.

476
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: You have to put a label. No to your question.

477
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,519
If they go into the tight end room, what room

478
00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:12,799
do I go into as a fullback? Is there a

479
00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:14,920
full back room? Or did I go into the running

480
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,519
because nobody has full back because it's an agent and

481
00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:20,400
F because there's only three fullbacks in the NFL. Not

482
00:24:20,519 --> 00:24:22,759
when I was playing, they wouldn't talk about when we

483
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,400
were playing footage in a building on a full back room.

484
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, what it's a broom closet. I went into the

485
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:38,200
running back room, just like the path room. This guy's

486
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,000
got no respect for other positions.

487
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect. I love tight ends

488
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,839
of the best. That's what they are, the tight end. Like, hey,

489
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,319
what does this guy play on your team? You're like,

490
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,519
I don't know, don't care. I know what I play. Yeah,

491
00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:58,839
he's off I am. But you know what I'm talking

492
00:24:58,839 --> 00:25:01,839
about is the crazy thing. It's a good pass catching

493
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,200
tight end?

494
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Speaker 8: Is that?

495
00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 6: Is that?

496
00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: What it is? The trade s type?

497
00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 8: Is he?

498
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,279
Speaker 1: Is he an F Titan? Yes, very much associated F. Yes,

499
00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:12,400
he's a Z bud. He's a zero an X I

500
00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:14,759
mean in my offense, Yes, he would be. That's gonna

501
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:16,839
be that. That'll be your term. You'll come up with next.

502
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,240
He's an next tight end. No, we've been saying hy

503
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,960
n F no long time? Who you and Antonio? No,

504
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:30,359
every offense I've been a part of. Okay, I don't

505
00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:34,640
think so. Just tight end. You want to call Jimbo

506
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:35,039
right now?

507
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,039
Speaker 5: Well, when you have too tight ends, you have two

508
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,200
tight ends in the game, you have to give them

509
00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:42,640
some sort of label, differentiating.

510
00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: On a plane, saying you are judging these people and

511
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,880
stereotyping them with a letter, because that's what they play,

512
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,759
that's what they are. That's why I asked you. When

513
00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:57,960
Antonio gates in the game with one tight end, what

514
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,480
position is it? Then he becomes why why because there's

515
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,559
an F in the game. God, this is god. I can't.

516
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,000
This is okay in the head a lot I did,

517
00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:15,720
but I'm right, it's a star. Okay. Did he work

518
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,759
out with the stars this weekend?

519
00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 4: He didn't work out with anybody, which we'll get to

520
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,720
which we'll get to that, not just him, We'll get

521
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:23,960
to that.

522
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: Calling all stars the bench press, stars the bench press.

523
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 4: You know that is such a different conversation, and you're

524
00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:35,200
digging your heels in, you know, it's you know what

525
00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:36,160
I'm talking about?

526
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: What? What? Okay?

527
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 4: I can't even if we called Jimbo right now and

528
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,680
he's twelve personnel, he would tell you there's a why

529
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,240
and there's an F.

530
00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 5: That's fine. He's not gonna say Hey, that guy right there,

531
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:50,920
that's an F tight end right there.

532
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:54,279
Speaker 1: Now he's an F t end. Oh yeah, he's a

533
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:59,920
Why what it's a tight end? Catch about he catch

534
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:00,559
pass it better?

535
00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:03,039
Speaker 4: Some of them block better. And that's why you don't

536
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:08,000
need to separate the rooms. You don't separate it. Everything's

537
00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:08,960
labeled for a reason.

538
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,079
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates did he go into the Hall of Fame

539
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,000
as a wire? And f.

540
00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:15,559
Speaker 5: I can't remember which one? What's what's on his bust?

541
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,039
Why do you get there? Because he was in what's

542
00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:20,200
on his bust? I can't remember what letters.

543
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it yet, but he got there because

544
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,519
he was an F tied end.

545
00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 5: And I answering the question, tiptoeing through the tulips, No,

546
00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:37,799
I answered it. This is a good radio electric give

547
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:51,519
the people what they want. Mhm, Hey, welcome back for real.

548
00:27:51,599 --> 00:28:00,599
Speaker 1: We miss you. This isn't is uncomfortable. I'm fine as comical.

549
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:05,559
Oh no, this is Finn's been waiting for this moment.

550
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,759
Speaker 4: If there's one thing that I know my beloved co

551
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,880
host hates, it's labeling stuff in football. I know that

552
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:17,480
I'm with you at the star position. I also think

553
00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:21,839
that's dumb, but The thing that's bothering me is I

554
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,519
know the offenses you've been in.

555
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: Not all of them, not all of them. You're in

556
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:26,400
a lot of them.

557
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 6: I know that.

558
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,599
Speaker 4: But I know that you know exactly what I'm talking about,

559
00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:33,119
and you're taking that little Nike dunk shoe that you

560
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:36,640
have and you are digging it into the ground despite.

561
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,759
Speaker 5: Meir Jordan wants, oh, well, I look like a Nike dunk.

562
00:28:39,799 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

563
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 4: I'm more a team issued shoes. I don't really know shoes.

564
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:49,559
It's very nice. Okay, you know what I'm talking about. Okay,

565
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,680
so let's just end the conversation here. Final verdict is

566
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:57,000
anybody okay with the Saints selecting a tight end?

567
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. You get it at number eight.

568
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: Not if you're going to use him as a tight end. No,

569
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,200
Like if you would just want to line him up

570
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:05,559
a receiver.

571
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, but no, i''m gonna do that, though even then

572
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:13,039
I think no, I mean I wouldn't want. You have

573
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:14,880
some pretty good receivers out there that I mean have

574
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,000
been well chronicled with Lemon and Tate. If they're still

575
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:19,880
on the board there, I I'd rather take one of

576
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,200
those guys, especially a guy like Tate uh with the

577
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,440
size and the catch radius that he has to kind

578
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,559
of go over the middle forty. Then then maybe a

579
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,039
tight end where you can get a guy like Eli

580
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,200
Stoars potentially on day two if you do want to

581
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:33,279
draft that position.

582
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:38,279
Speaker 1: Do you Oh no, no, absolutely not, absolutely, not a

583
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:41,079
hundred percent. Now where would you feel safe selecting somebody

584
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,319
like that? Twenties, Yeah, eighteen to twenty maybe posts fifteen,

585
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,759
maybe eighteen to twenty five good, you got assets to

586
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,559
be real.

587
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:54,839
Speaker 5: Good, if you got assets something if it kind of

588
00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:56,079
depends on what you get on the back end of

589
00:29:56,119 --> 00:29:59,319
that trade. Like, I think there's a lot better options.

590
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:07,200
Eighteen to twenty five move back, better be good and

591
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:09,920
not just good, better be special. Yeah, I think you

592
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,119
have so many needs right now. And it's not that

593
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,000
he's not a great player.

594
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,519
Speaker 4: I just don't know that that really elevates you to

595
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:18,440
some of the other places that you could get when

596
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,559
you are when you're heavy and talented at places where

597
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:26,359
you need help. You can be creative and you can

598
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,920
move back and you can still get I think a

599
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,359
lot of the things that you want. I think you

600
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,359
can move back to fourteen just picking a number and

601
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,599
get it a playmaker at fourteen, get an asset that's

602
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,359
going to be able to give you an edge rusher

603
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,359
with the next pick. And then let's say you still

604
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:44,440
have forty two. If you get let's go fourteen. The

605
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:46,839
Cowboys have two first round picks. What are they twelve?

606
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,839
I think, or at twelve. Let's say they want to

607
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:51,640
move up to eight. All right, you give me both

608
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,960
those first round picks. We'll move up there.

609
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: Missing a defensive start, We'll give you our forty two.

610
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,079
All right, we'll give you eight and forty two. You

611
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,240
give me those two first round picks, and I'm picking.

612
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:03,960
If I'm the Saints that I'm picking at twelve in

613
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:07,880
the twenties, that's something like I can get to day.

614
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:11,039
Speaker 4: One starters with that. Now you know forty two, you

615
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:12,839
kind of expect a day one starter as well. But

616
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,119
I like, you know, twenty six a lot better. I

617
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,920
like forty two. So you have the ability. The Cowboys

618
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,039
had the ability. And I look, as I said, I

619
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:24,240
caught up with Steven Jones like thirty minutes their defense.

620
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:25,680
Like he didn't even try to hide. He's like, no,

621
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:28,880
we're defense in this draft. Say we're really good on offense.

622
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:33,799
We're pretty poor on defense, so you have options out there. Yeah,

623
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,880
this is this all sounds really like really great.

624
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you would you were bad.

625
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:43,839
Speaker 5: And you have an asset, use it to the best

626
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:46,440
of your ability, and use it to something that makes

627
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,559
sense quickly. You have this window of opportunity right now.

628
00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:52,920
Your cap is finally going to be on the right

629
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,400
side of history. You have a young quarterback that's your

630
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,759
franchise quarterback playing under a rookie contract. Don't screw this

631
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,079
up and make you limits. You're on a hot streak.

632
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,720
You got the award for the best draft class. Yeah

633
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,880
in twenty twenty five, let's make it too. Just do

634
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,640
something like this is the time. This is if there

635
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,640
was ever a window, this is the window of opportunity

636
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,720
for you to solidify a lot of those positions that

637
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:20,319
people always talk about it. You want to hit a

638
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:22,599
quarterback in the draft, because why, you don't have to.

639
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: Pay them a lot.

640
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 5: You don't have to pay them starting quarterback money. You

641
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,599
got an asset in the top ten. If you play

642
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:35,319
your cards right and you find some some eligible and

643
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,680
suitable partners for trades and different assets, and you can

644
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,279
with the eight, especially if that the first seven picks

645
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,839
go the right way. Yeah, you can make a really

646
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,240
strong impact and not only make an immediate impact.

647
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:51,359
Speaker 1: But to last a long time, last for a handful

648
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,599
of years. So here's hoping.

649
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:57,559
Speaker 4: I think Saints can be very creative in this draft.

650
00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:59,640
I think they are going to hold a lot of

651
00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:01,799
level bridge at number eight. I think number eight is

652
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,359
like a really good sweet spot because teams are going

653
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,680
to be willing to give up what it takes to

654
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,599
get eight. Maybe they wouldn't have two, maybe they wouldn't

655
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:11,000
a three, but at eight with the defensive prospects in

656
00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:14,720
this draft. And I can only speak to the coaches

657
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:18,440
I talked to, but Dan Quinn said defense. Stephen Jones,

658
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,680
you know, assistant GM co owner of the team with

659
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:24,240
his father, He said defense.

660
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: Not a lot of teams have the assets to trade

661
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,880
up to the top three four picks, but a.

662
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,839
Speaker 4: Lot I always having two first round picks because they

663
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,920
give up Michael Parsons.

664
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: A lot of teams have the assets to trade for

665
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,279
an eight and number eight.

666
00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: It's not what they typically do, but they have an

667
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,240
opportunity if they don't do it, like the guy that

668
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:46,559
they let's say, Sunny Styles goes seven to Washington say

669
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:48,279
that that was the guy they were eyeing. They don't

670
00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:51,359
feel great about the receiver class where it's at right now.

671
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,680
The Saints should certainly upgrade their draft by moving back.

672
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,720
All right, we will take a break. Long for a break.

673
00:33:56,839 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: More OTB when we come back on the other side

674
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,720
here live from the Razor Kings studio top the bench.

675
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679
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680
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681
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682
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683
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684
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685
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686
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690
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691
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692
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698
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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in OTV here on this Monday morning, Jake, Flann,

699
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Moose and A and also going to be joined now

700
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by guy Will Helmer's Louisiana loaded.

701
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Speaker 1: Of course, always good enough to have him.

702
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 4: Uh, part of the g team comes all over with this,

703
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,360
talks a little baseball and he was going to referee

704
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,440
our tight end uh dispute here.

705
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: That's why he showed up. That's why I'm actually here.

706
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, funds obviously right. I didn't hear that part. We

707
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:54,800
definitely did not hear that part. But we'll always pleasure man.

708
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,039
Hope you're doing well, Man doing well.

709
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for having me another three and oh

710
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:01,519
weekend for the LSU fight Tigers. We'll take it. Yeah,

711
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,039
Like and I know they had the midweek loss.

712
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,599
Speaker 4: That's like those aren't They don't matter Yeah, those aren't

713
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:08,760
things that are gonna make you like, let's.

714
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 6: Not make or break a season kind of thing. Now.

715
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:12,199
Speaker 1: I do love how Jay wants to win every game.

716
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,159
Speaker 4: No, I do love that off But and Mecisa was

717
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,079
better on that night, and so you're able to cut

718
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:19,320
that and win three straight games. You got another game

719
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,880
tonight against Northeastern, but a lot of people pointing to

720
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,199
maybe some of the offensive struggles and maybe we can

721
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,199
get there a little bit later on. It's just one weekend.

722
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:28,599
They were hitting the ball well before that, but the

723
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:30,079
pitching staff did not disappoint.

724
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:30,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's me.

725
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 8: They've been more what I was excited about rather than

726
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:35,719
kind of mad about. Yeah, I'm more excited about. You

727
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,440
get three starters that are looking awesome on the weekend.

728
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:42,760
Even if you know whatever, Dartmouth Northeastern, who cares, you know,

729
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,400
these guys are getting better every week, it seems like.

730
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:47,920
And so when you take that into account, if you

731
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,840
can have the guys that you know you're giving up

732
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:53,199
three runs in three games, I'll take that right, even

733
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,119
if it's against Dartmouth getting into SEC play, the guys

734
00:36:56,159 --> 00:36:57,960
are still going to be over the plate with their stuff,

735
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,679
and all three guys have great stuff and so it's

736
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,280
gonna play in the sec like it or not. And

737
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,079
so if they can continue to get better from the

738
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:07,880
mounds standpoint, they're gonna be hard to stop because the

739
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,960
offense is gonna come.

740
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,679
Speaker 6: Like it's just kind of how Jay rolls.

741
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 8: You know, these guys are still getting there at bats,

742
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,679
and they're still you know, working towards getting better at

743
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,039
the plate.

744
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 6: And you still got a lot of.

745
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,119
Speaker 8: Guys who are new to LSU in the lineup, you know,

746
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,920
new to Alex Box, and they're getting accustomed to what

747
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:25,000
it feels like there.

748
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:28,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so take you know, you take some of

749
00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:29,519
that into account and getting.

750
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 8: That into their head their mental side, they're you know,

751
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,880
being comfortable at the box. It's only going to get

752
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,920
better from here. I'm not worried about the offense at all.

753
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:39,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, from a hitting standpoint. So let's go back last week,

754
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,280
the last Tuesday, the McNeese loss. We were we mentioned

755
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,880
it last week a little bit, and it looked like

756
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:49,760
watching them take their bats like they were trying to

757
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,880
hit Tiger Stadium. Yeah, Okay, So there's a lot of

758
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,159
subconscious at play and a lot of these things like

759
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,960
and you said you got a lot of new guys.

760
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,920
First time they've probably when they sounded those shot probably

761
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:02,400
or something. They've ever been to Louisiana. Yeah, they don't

762
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,440
know where. They don't know where mcnice is, right, They

763
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:08,000
just like the smaller school the schools, right, they have

764
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:11,519
no clue. So it's you put on the uniform, you're

765
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:14,599
Alex Box ran National chamb. It's like subconsciously you're like,

766
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,039
is there is whether you're trying to or not. And

767
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:21,400
it happens in football too. That's why like we hated

768
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,559
the smaller school games. It's like you're like, Okay, we're

769
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:27,480
better than them. I'm going to get some stats here.

770
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:29,519
I'm going to make this ball go for a ride.

771
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:31,679
Whether they're actually trying to or not in their brain,

772
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,679
is that a real thing in these midweek games? Are

773
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,320
you trying to do something a little out of character

774
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,599
that you wouldn't do necessarily in an SEC series.

775
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,039
Speaker 8: I don't want to say you're like physically trying to,

776
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:44,079
but it's definitely in your some conscious mind, like it's there,

777
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:49,840
Like even from Louisiana, Like I know like Nichols, Mcnice, Twulane,

778
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,239
you and O. Right, these are all all all four

779
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,239
of those schools we lost to when I was at LSU. Yeah,

780
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,719
you know, it just happens, and whether you're trying to

781
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,400
do something or not, you are right, you know, and

782
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:01,599
you see it like guys take a little bigger swings,

783
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:03,639
they kind of you know, maybe gear up a little

784
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:05,599
bit more on the mound, and it just causes like

785
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:08,119
you'll see it, like you hit guys on the mound,

786
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:09,360
you walk a bunch of guys.

787
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: Like a lot of it's just.

788
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,639
Speaker 6: Not a few, a lot.

789
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was.

790
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,639
Speaker 8: It was ugly from the mound. You know, they hit

791
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,760
four and walked like six. Yeah, you know, you can't

792
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,800
do that. And a part of that's just you're doing

793
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,400
trying to do too much, you know, and trying to

794
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,360
be too much when you don't need to be.

795
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: And the words of Kuna do less, Less is more

796
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:37,760
Sarah Marshall, Yeah, yeah, yes, uh, well somebody assuming much more.

797
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,920
William Schmidt on Sundays And we were talking earlier and

798
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,039
you'd be so much more qualified to talk about this

799
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:45,159
as a picture than we would.

800
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: But you know, he has all this pressure of he's

801
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,440
going to be a first round pick.

802
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 4: He decides to stay in school, and you had that

803
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,760
option now with Nio, which is awesome. You get baseball

804
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,519
players like that in college baseball, and you know last

805
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:58,119
year you see flashes without question, but it wasn't consistent.

806
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, it had some issues staying in the zone.

807
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,559
Speaker 4: But he really feels like he's starting to come together

808
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,199
and like the best thing about it is no walks, right,

809
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,119
no free passes.

810
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: He's going down there.

811
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,519
Speaker 4: He's got a bulldog mentality now and you can start

812
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:13,159
to see like with every pitch it's like more and

813
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,280
more confidence, right.

814
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,679
Speaker 8: And that's awesome, Like that's all you can ask for.

815
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,920
We're going from that freshman year to that sophomore year.

816
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,599
And he actually mentioned this in his you know, postgame

817
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,440
press conference yesterday, is like he learned a lot from

818
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:27,000
guys that were here, like guys like Anderson and i Andsen,

819
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:29,440
who are you know, first, second, third round picks or whatever,

820
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,840
and other guys on that pitching staff. Last year, he

821
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,679
learned how to be a good picture, right, And he

822
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,320
said he knows how to be a good picture at LSU.

823
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,440
It just took some time for him to get there.

824
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,760
And he's he's a young kid, like you know, he's

825
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:43,480
he's probably not even twenty years old. Yeah, you know,

826
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,480
and so people put a lot of pressure on him.

827
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:49,760
But to see him overcome, you know, his struggles from

828
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,039
last year and be the picture that everybody knows that

829
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:53,960
he can be, especially around Baton Rouge.

830
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 6: And in the state of Louisiana, is awesome. Like he's

831
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:56,800
been great.

832
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: It is so wild for me to see and it

833
00:40:58,519 --> 00:40:59,360
happens all the time.

834
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 4: You see a guy like Kate Harrison is a great example,

835
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,079
like from from like the year where you're just like

836
00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:06,559
a baby deer and trying to figure yourself out and

837
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:08,320
everybody's like, I don't know, can this guy pitch? And

838
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,599
then like you figure it out because you're a year older,

839
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,280
you know what it looks like, you know the process,

840
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:13,760
and then you go out there become one of the

841
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,639
best pitchers in the country.

842
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, they had a similar story. Like Kate Anderson was

843
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,079
his freshman year was my senior year. We're in the

844
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:22,960
SEC tournament. He's walking guys and hitting guys and I'm like, man,

845
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,559
who is this dude? Like what is why supposed to

846
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:27,360
be so good? Blah bla blah blah blah. And then

847
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,719
he comes out the next year and is Kate Anderson

848
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,800
and everybody remembers. Yeah, you know, and it's awesome. Williams

849
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,079
spit's the same kind of thing. It's like he's going

850
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,679
to be that guy. And he's got another year at LSU, right,

851
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,440
so the sky's a limit for him.

852
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 5: And even more impressive. We talked about how short Dartmouth's

853
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:51,239
lineup is. Yeah, small players strike, how accurate are we?

854
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: Instead of the.

855
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 6: Three boxes they got the two track man.

856
00:41:56,519 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 5: That's such a turn, seriously, like talk about So of

857
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,079
course this past weekend was fantastic from the pitching standpoint,

858
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:07,320
but let's like the whole season. Yeah, like into review here,

859
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,400
like how do you feel about the rotation, the weekend

860
00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:12,119
rotation now and as we get into now a little

861
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:12,760
bit of March play.

862
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 6: I mean I would love it.

863
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 8: You know, LSU hasn't had three guys in a while,

864
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:20,559
you know, since really my freshman year, they haven't had

865
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,639
like three weekend starters. It was you know, Land and Marco,

866
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,000
Jayden Hill and aj Labis my freshman year and after

867
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,519
that we kind of rolled with two the Friday and Saturday,

868
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,760
and so I like how they have three starters and

869
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,599
three guys that can go deep into games. You can

870
00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:38,639
save some arms, and then you can also use a

871
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:41,639
lot more guys and you can put them in smaller situations.

872
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:43,440
I think you saw it yesterday, Like you get guys

873
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,480
that are just coming in for one out. If they

874
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:47,440
don't get him out, he's out, and we're throwing up

875
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,000
the next guy and gonna match guys up lefty, lefty.

876
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:52,599
You know just how your stuff plays against you know,

877
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:55,280
different hitters. And as you get into the SEC, which

878
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,800
is you know, obviously what really matters is how you

879
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,280
go in the SEC. You're gonna match guys up from

880
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,920
the mound based on what a hitter is doing on

881
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,280
the other team and the amount of time that they

882
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,679
spend scouting and looking into analytics and blah blah blah,

883
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:13,280
blah blah blah, a bunch of stuff that nobody wants

884
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:13,519
to hear.

885
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:14,679
Speaker 6: Is unbelievable.

886
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: And so.

887
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 8: If they can continue to, you know, stretch guys out

888
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,440
into games three starters deep into Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and

889
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:26,559
then just match guys up, they're gonna have a real

890
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,159
great chance to keep guys not scoring runs.

891
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 4: Uh, you go stick around for like a two minute

892
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,840
segment on the other side. Let's do it all, right,

893
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894
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895
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Speaker 3: Com from the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off

918
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the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.

919
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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in it is OTB.

920
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Speaker 4: We do have Will Helmer's here with us in studio,

921
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,079
so certainly want to find out what's going on at

922
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,800
Louisiana Loaded this week. I'm sure like a lot of

923
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,960
baseball talk, I would assume, but what ch'all got going on.

924
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: A lot of baseball talk.

925
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 8: We also started doing a new podcast if anybody hasn't

926
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seen that, Jordi Kolada and I doing it Thursdays, so

927
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please go check that out. We'll drop another one this

928
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Thursday with a pretty cool guest, so go check that out.

929
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Other than that, working with Gordon to get some baseball

930
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,840
athletes doing some stuff. So we got eleven guys this

931
00:45:29,039 --> 00:45:31,800
year doing nil stuff on the baseball side. So we

932
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:35,360
signed a lot of guys and hopefully do some partnership

933
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,679
with Louisiana Load and get Gordon to take some cool

934
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,559
trips and take these guys and do some fun Louisiana stuff,

935
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:43,800
maybe a fishing trip, a little nutrient hunting.

936
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,559
Speaker 1: Who knows there we go.

937
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you needed a couple of old football players

938
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come and do Homa Derby at the box.

939
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, an idea guy, real quick.

940
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 4: You had about thirty seconds left. L Sho's got a

941
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,079
game tonight. You know, another opponent you've already faced Northeastern.

942
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:06,320
There but another opportunity to go out there and try

943
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to fix some of these offensive things you've gone on

944
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the weekend, had another day to try to get ready

945
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and go.

946
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Speaker 8: I think it's a big day for him. We're going

947
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to see who they start. I'm interested to see who

948
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they throw on them mount first. They may just mix

949
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it up quick. But uh, other than that, there's another

950
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chance to get the bats roll and get back in

951
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the box.

952
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, brother, Well we appreciate it. Brother, appreciate it. Guys,

953
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catch up beginning with you next week. All right, we

954
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will take a break. We've got a weekend winners when

955
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we come back here on O TV.

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Speaker 4: Off the bench, all right, Go to katz Blinds dot

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com ktoz Blinds dot com.

958
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: That is the website for k too z Windows.

959
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 4: And when you go out there, right when you go

960
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to that website, when you check it out.

961
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Speaker 1: Just know that they can do so many different things

962
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for you.

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Speaker 4: It's in the interior of your home, but it's also

964
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the exterior, right the outdoor portion of your home, and

965
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sometimes it's both.

966
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Speaker 1: Like that's what it has been for me.

967
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Speaker 4: Put the outdoor shade on my home, and we were

968
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excited because it was gonna, you know, shade this out

969
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or patio area. We had no ideas actually gonna shade

970
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the living room as well, save on some energy bills,

971
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take the glare off the TV. Just one of the

972
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many things that Brandon Barton and the team we're gonna

973
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make sure they get done every single time.

974
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Speaker 1: Again ktoz Blinds dot com.

975
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Speaker 5: Right Kittzy Interiors and outdoor Let me talk about those

976
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roll up shades and also like inside that outdoor area

977
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when those shades are down, now twenty degrees cooler than

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it is in those summer months. So save on everything. Man,

979
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turned that outdoor living into an extension of your home.

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Go check on kitt Zy in tiers and outdoor living

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ktz Blinds dot com