Speaker 1: It was an act of domestic terrorism. What happened was
our ice officers were out in enforcement action. They got
stuck in the snow because of the adverse weather that
is in Minneapolis. They were attempting to push out their
vehicle and a woman attacked them and those surrounding them
and attempted to run them over and ram them with
her vehicle. An officer of ours acted quickly and defensively
shot to protect himself and the people around him. And
my understanding is is that she was hit and is
deceased or continue to gather more information, but this goes
to show the assaults that our ice officers in our
law enforcement are under every single day.
Speaker 2: It's kind of hardball with the Midas Touch network. You've
seen the video. No reasonable person can watch that footage
and agree with what Secretary Noome said about it. Our
government is telling us not to believe what our own
eyes see. The Trump regime disdains the country it exists
to protect. Nothing about isis presence in Minneapolis has made
the people they're safer. After Renee Nicole Good was shot
in the face, a doctor at the scene asked Ice
agents if they would let him at least check for
a pulse. He clearly said, I'm a physician, to which
an ICE agent replied, I don't care.
Speaker 3: Oh check a pole check.
Speaker 2: I'm understand this is what we're up against, and we
knew what would happen. We knew it from the leadership
of DHS on down. This is a corrupt organization that
celebrates brutality. It prays on society's most vulnerable members. Here's
a sampling of posters that ICE uses to attract new recruits.
Who do you think is joining ICE these days? Guys
with SS tattoos. If you don't know what I'm talking about,
just google it. I wanted to talk to a former
law enforcement officer about what just happened in Minneapolis, and
there's no one I respect more than former Capitol Police
officer Harry Dunn. You remember him as one of the
heroes of January sixth, who held the line. Again, it's
the insurrectionists who are trying to kill him. In his
colleagues and who later testified about that day during the
j six hearings. His perspective probably won't surprise you. He
describes what that ICE agent just did as murder. But
it's one you need to hear. Here's me an officer.
Harry done, Harry, officer done. Man, It's good to see again.
I wish the circumstances were different, but I really wanted
to get your perspective on this. You've seen the video.
We've all seen the video. I don't know about you,
but the image kept replaying in my mind. And you
and I have seen some stuff, right, but this one
I had a visceral reaction to it, and I wanted
to talk to you in particular because I thought about
how you and your buddies conducted themselves on January sixth,
almost five years ago to the day, when you had
every right to use lethal force against people who were
trying to kill you. And I'm comparing it with how
I is behaving today, shooting into a vehicle that I
think the analysis is going to show was trying to
get out of the situation, not trying to harm an
ice officer. And as a former l EO, I mean,
this is something you you've got to take personally in some.
Speaker 3: Ways absolutely well.
Speaker 4: First and foremost, you you got to just feel for
the life that was lost and it didn't need to
be taken. When you go through law enforcement. Your job
is to preserve life, and they avoided that. They did
the actual opposite. It was murder, you know, and I
hate as an officer. Listen, I get what people say.
I understand what people say.
Speaker 3: I hate.
Speaker 4: Well, let's wait till all the facts come out. What
we saw, the facts, we saw it, everybody saw it.
This is a George Floyd moment where it was captured
for the entire world to see a law enforcement officer,
a singular one because only one shot their weapon, murdered
somebody in cold blood. And I have a visible reaction too,
because one, I have empathy, which a lot of these
people don't have. And second, as a law enforcement officer,
your job is to protect and serve. And then maybe
these guys are different. They're special agents, you know they are.
They really police officer. No police officers should be acting
the way that they did. And the point that you
mentioned about January sixth, I can't get wrapped my head around.
I saw a comment or a clip from Congressman Wesley
Hunt them a Republican I think from Texas.
Speaker 3: And rus Lee.
Speaker 4: Hunt said the bottom line is if you comply with
these officers, then you shouldn't you won't be shot or something.
Speaker 3: It's something to that extent.
Speaker 4: But yet in the same sentence he criticizes or won't
hold Ashley Babbitt accountable. So the mental gymnastic these individuals
do to defend their lawlessness is mind boggling.
Speaker 2: I really hope this officer who pulled the trigger has
a day in court where we are all given the
opportunity to hear from him. I hope justice has had
for the family of Rene Nicole Good, But I think
the trial should really center on the entire department. And
you have the Secretary herself calling this victim a domestic terrorist.
You have her lying behind the seal of the US
government saying the agents were stuck in the snow trying
to get outbilies. All of that, and we are being
told as Americans not to believe what our own eyes
are seeing. And there's every possibility that they're just going
to pin at all on this one officer. They'll probably
rally and say he did the right thing. That's what
I think they'll do. But the real trial the American
people deserve is of the Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 4: I agree one hundred percent, and I'm glad that you
brought up Christy Nome because that's one of the first
thoughts that I had yesterday after reading their statement and
then doubling down on it and then calling her a
domestic terrorist, And I said, I hope that Attorney General,
I believe it's still Keith Ellison in the state of Minnesota,
will find some type of statue that holds to her accountable. Also,
I don't know the law there, and you know, obviously,
you know Pam Bondi is not going to press any charges.
That'll never happen. So it's up to the state because
it did happen in the state. It didn't happen on
federal property. It happened in a neighborhood in Minnesota, a
small community in Minnesota, and where, first of all, they
weren't even wanted by Governor Walls. The mayor put it bluntly,
get the f out, You're not welcome here, so much
that the hotel chains did not want them there. So
they went there, like you said earlier, looking for a fight.
They are the provokers, They are the agitators, and that
is not what law enforcement is supposed to be. They
are going around agitating people, pushing people.
Speaker 3: They're like bullies.
Speaker 4: Imagine a scene from a movie where the bullies is
just walking through the school kids at his locker and
just pressing the kid, Hey, what's in your lunch bag?
That's what ICE is literally doing right now. And they're
taking people's lunch and they're beating people up, and people
are terrified to fight back because they have been given
an order to do whatever they want. That is a
quote from Donald Trump in August when he deployed the
National Guard in Washington, d C. August of twenty twenty five,
he said, in the Oval Office law Enforcement, do whatever
the hell you want. So hell, he's responsible to everybody
in this administration, is responsible for that woman's depth yesterday
because they are not doing anything to curtail these out
of control ICE agents. I'm of the fact that we
should abolish it. We should abolish ICE, Immigration, Customs and Enforcement.
I mean, hell, they abolish USAID, they abolish the Department
of Education, They're abolishing vaccines and everything. Abolish ICE while
you're at it too. And you know what, we wouldn't
need ICE and all that stuff if we had a
and this is a.
Speaker 3: Whole different topics.
Speaker 4: I don't We could talk forever one, if we had
a clear path to citizenship, make it make immigrants be
able to get into the United States without having to
wait fifteen twenty years for they want to become contributing
members of these our communities, and they are and they
do so that's just to make a clear pathway to citizenship.
But that's, like I said, that's a whole different topic.
We could talk four hours on.
Speaker 2: I would love your perspective on the standards. And I
know you're not inside ICE. You probably don't have the
personnel manual in front of you. But just from what
we're seeing from these guys and comparing it to how
tough it was to become a Capitol police officer. Look,
I'm comparing it to the training that an eighteen year
old private in the Marine Corps gets and the firearms
discipline that they have. Compared to these supposed professionals in ICE.
It should outrage all of us that an eighteen year
old after boot camp as a better idea of what
to do in a situation like this than supposedly professionally
trained l EO. How do you think about the type
of people being drawn into ICE these days? And we're
going to throw up some posters here that the Department
of Homeland Security is using for recruitment. You know, it's
like the kind of stuff from nineteen forties Germany. I
don't want to make the comparison too closely here, but
the appeal you wouldn't be far off, the appeals to
masculinity and warrior ethos and all that crap that doesn't
belong in law enforcement. I can understand the appeal in
a Marine Corps recruiting poster, but you guys are supposed
to serve and protect.
Speaker 4: That's your job. We're not on the offense offense as
law enforcement. It's unfortunate that you're on the defense. You
are there to react in respect fond to issues. Now,
like a lot of people say, oh, Capitol Police, you know,
glorified security guard.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 4: Okay, say whatever you want. We went through the training
to be able to do with any and every cop
does out on the streets, and that includes learning how
to not shoot at a fleeing vehicle. A fleeing vehicle.
There are there are times when you can shoot there.
We've learned statutes shooting people in the back, and they're
as law enforcement, and that is if you determine that
that person is a threat to go harm somebody else,
an imminent threat and on the way to go harm
somebody else, or they are fleeing felon And those are
statutes that held up in the court, and neither one
in that video, neither one of those things applied. In fact,
when the shot, three shots were fired, three shots. I
believe all three went through the driver's side window. You know,
I don't have the forensic analysis, but.
Speaker 2: Just one of them went through the front, but at
an angle, at an clear footage of a ninety degree
shot though, shows the car is passing the officer. You
can see the entire profile of the firearm, and the
camera is behind the car, so he should at the
side of.
Speaker 3: It, at the side of her face.
Speaker 4: And you know, listen, one hundred percent law enforcement are
they have to make split second decisions, absolutely, and it
is very tough, and people are trying to kill law
enforcement and that is unacceptable. One hundred percent law enforcement
should be able to do their jobs safely, you know,
with that's kind of like an oxymoron, right because it's
a dangerous job, but without any extra agitation from people
that are trying to harm them while they are doing
their jobs of protecting and serving. However, what we saw
in this video was not law enforcement protected in serving.
It was agitating and provoking while individuals were running. Because
the woman in the van was the car the SUV
was scared for her life. That officer wasn't scared for his.
She was scared for hers, which is why she was
taking off. So the standard of law enforcement is to
protect and serve. But the way that HAMI hell, we're
living in the Washington, DC area. I mean, I've seen
ads for Ice and Customs and Border Patrol ads on everywhere,
on billboards at bus stops, on metro buses that are
driving through the community, and they are promoting, like you said,
this masculinity, this warrior mentality that should not apply to
law enforcement. Now, obviously there are situations when law enforcement
and you're in a situation where you need to have
that warrior mentality, and a lot of times in law enforcement,
those are the days you don't want.
Speaker 3: You don't want to be walking around like that.
Speaker 4: You want quiet days, you want boring days, you want
just giving somebody a warning for rolling through a stop sign.
That's what you want as a law enforcement officer. Anytime
you have to have that warrior mentality. It's probably one
of the worst days of your life as a law
enforcement officer. It's not something that you should be out
there seeking, which appears a lot of these ICE agents
are doing, and it's very unfortunate.
Speaker 2: Well, Harry, this is exactly why I wanted to talk
to you today. I really appreciate your wisdom and your insight.
Where can people find you? I know you got a
couple of great shows going on.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Thank you for that.
Speaker 4: Man. Now I host a podcast with my dear friend
Alison Gil called Cleanup on Aisle forty five find out
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Speaker 2: Done one, great Harry, We'll put the land thanks to
the show. Not It's great having you.
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